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Speaker 1: This the One Bill's Live, presented by calllighta Health. Hello everybody,

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Speaker 1: thanks for joining us here once again uh One Bill's Lives.

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker riding the guiding the ship here today alongside

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Speaker 1: Carl Jones. Thanks for coming in again today here all week.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you man. How d your yesterday went okay for us? Right? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: It went's moved I didn't you know, you know, nothing,

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Speaker 2: nothing catastrophe happened or anything like that. I'm still breathing

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Speaker 2: and safe and.

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Speaker 1: Didn't turn over the desk in an argument or anything.

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Speaker 3: Not nothing like that.

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Speaker 1: That's cool, good, good to have you back. We're glad

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Speaker 1: to be back. We got a lot going on today.

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Speaker 1: The Jim Kelly camp is here at the stadium. It's

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Speaker 1: not like this. I don't know if you know, it's

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Speaker 1: not like this all the time we got in there.

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Speaker 1: There's like six thousand kids playing playing flag football or

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Speaker 1: touch football, both in the practice fields outside the field house,

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Speaker 1: the practice field inside the field house, and on the

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Speaker 1: field in the stadium. I saw. I got a chance

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Speaker 1: to talk to Jim today for about two seconds touch

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Speaker 1: base with him. But thirty eight years have been doing

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Speaker 1: the Jim Kelly football camp. Thirty eight years that's like

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Speaker 1: the second generation now of kids that are you.

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Speaker 3: Know, that's just awesome.

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Speaker 2: I just all those little kids out there are just

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Speaker 2: seeing twelve and just seeing all the good things that

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Speaker 2: he's done for the city long before they were even

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Speaker 2: thought of. And the fact that he's coming back and

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Speaker 2: still doing this at his age and doing that great stuff.

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Speaker 3: You appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: It's funny too, because you think about it, it's almost well,

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Speaker 1: it is two generations. But I like my guys, my

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Speaker 1: boys were in this camp, and now I'm on the

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Speaker 1: verge of having grandkids old enough to go to Jim's

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Speaker 1: camp after my sons did so. Bless his hard, Jim's

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Speaker 1: you know, obviously continues to be an enormous part of

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo family in the Buffalo scene. He's never the

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Speaker 1: guy's never left, you know, He's just he's a He's

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Speaker 1: guy wears it on his sleeve and he's at all

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Speaker 1: He's the Bill's homes home games, throws a tailgate every game,

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Speaker 1: and here he is, thirty eight years later, still doing

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Speaker 1: this camp.

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Speaker 2: Those spirals still look good. It's still like he got

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Speaker 2: a couple throws in him, a couple three step drops

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Speaker 1: I teat his arms. Shot, his arms totally shot.

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Speaker 3: You don't think he got a couple of slant ross

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he might be able to throw a slant right

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: But Steve Tasker and Carl Jones, we're here till three o'clock.

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Speaker 1: We've got Trevor Sikkima coming on the show as well today.

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Speaker 1: He's uh gonna come on Zoom with us talk a

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Speaker 1: little bit about the work he's been doing. The content

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Speaker 1: he's been doing a Pro Football focus, a lot of

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Speaker 1: fun stuff. He's a draft analyst. Uh the sick of

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Speaker 1: is you know, a little bit of draft stuff going on.

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Speaker 1: But it's obviously they're trying to project what team needs

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Speaker 1: will be in the future. So he's got some stuff

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Speaker 1: to say about that. We've got a Twitter question for

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Speaker 1: you can. The Twitter question for today is what new

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Speaker 1: wrinkle do you want the Bills to utilize on offense

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Speaker 1: or defense? This season? We all have, I mean Monday morning.

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Speaker 1: Quarterback is the most popular position in football, So if

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Speaker 1: you want to be that guy or that girl or

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Speaker 1: that person, and you think the Bills never do this

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Speaker 1: or they don't do it, Well, give us a call

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Speaker 1: and tell them. You need to let us know what

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Speaker 1: your insight is as the field general that you are right. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And it's tough though, because on one side of the ball,

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Speaker 2: the Bills had an historic year. On offense, you're really

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Speaker 2: nitpicking you at that point if you want to change.

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Speaker 1: They scored more points to anybody in the league. They

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Speaker 2: On the defensive side. They had their struggles here and there,

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Speaker 2: granular things to fix the Bills offense as opposed to

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Speaker 1: There's always those people out there like the Bills haven't

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Speaker 1: always people who say, you know, they should I don't know,

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Speaker 1: hell Tier three o'clock. Thanks for joining us. We're got

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Speaker 1: Bills a news. I think exactly two weeks away, two

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Speaker 1: it's gonna opening practice, I think is two weeks from today,

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Speaker 1: and you know they they'll be there for I don't

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Speaker 1: know a week. Then they'll come back and they'll have

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Speaker 1: the red and Blue return of the red and Blue practice,

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Speaker 1: Blue and Red practice. It's going to be here at

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Speaker 1: high Mark. They're going to be Hard Knocks is going

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Speaker 1: to be on the field with them this year. What

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Speaker 1: do you and I'd love to hear fans thoughts about

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Speaker 1: what hard Knocks means to the Bills and if they're

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Speaker 1: kind of secretly happy their teams do because they want

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Speaker 1: to see They want more content about their team, and

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Speaker 1: this is this is unlike any other content.

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Speaker 2: You get the behind the scenes access and not even

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Speaker 2: reporters or even people close to the team can access.

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Speaker 2: I do want to mention you talked about the return

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Speaker 2: of the Red and Blue scrimmage.

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Speaker 3: That'll be a high mark at the end of the month.

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Speaker 2: I really want to hope that's exposed to hard knocks

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Speaker 2: you say, sell out a scrimp not sell out of scrimmage,

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Speaker 2: will be they will be surprised to see that many

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's you're right. I'll say this too.

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Speaker 1: The one thing that's that's really interesting is that the

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Speaker 1: and people come out and they fill the stands of

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Speaker 1: just you're just on the cusp of particularly in this

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Speaker 2: Growing up where I grew up and then where I

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Speaker 2: to Allen Iverson, not a game. We're talking about practice

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's you're right. The fans are passionate and

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Speaker 1: the league has done a really good job at evolving

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Speaker 2: But everything matters, and the NFL has done a good

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Speaker 2: Free agency was this past week, and I don't know

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Speaker 2: And imagine, I don't think anyone really knows when the

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Speaker 2: Sabers open up practice and training camp to the exact date

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Speaker 2: and all that good jazz. But you do know the

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Speaker 2: be there and support them. You're going to be on

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Speaker 2: your X feed saying, oh, is there any Kean Coleman?

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Speaker 1: Two weeks away?

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Speaker 3: Man Dunks, I'm ready, I'm ready.

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Speaker 1: It's It's awesome.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I couldn't touch my toes, but unless I have

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Speaker 1: a stick in my hand. But let's go around the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker and Carl Jones with you here, WIVB Sports Reporter.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. We're gonna be here till three o'clock.

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Speaker 1: Let's go around the NFL, presented by Collida Health. And

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Speaker 1: for all you fantasy football players, I know that you

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Speaker 1: know drafts are coming up, and I do not play

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Speaker 1: fantasy football, so this is news to me. But the

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Speaker 1: Sharp Football Analysis put out their list of the top

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks in fantasy world. Of course, Josh is at the

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Speaker 1: top of the list with Lamar, and then it's Jalen Hurts,

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Speaker 1: top five. Josh has been the top three scorer for

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Speaker 3: You do that.

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Speaker 1: And also that came out today as we go around

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Speaker 3: So now I want to take Josh Allen number one

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Speaker 2: a year older. In this league, Kalisha Kiir is also

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Speaker 2: as sending you presume and kid will be healthier.

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Speaker 3: You presume.

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Speaker 2: If you're the Bills, you feel just as confident as

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Speaker 2: any team in the National Football League that you will

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Speaker 2: be better this year. That doesn't take into a consideration

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Speaker 2: the other side of the ball, where you lost your

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Speaker 2: cornerback one in the first quarter and then you hope

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Speaker 2: that you maybe get an upgrade at cornerback two, whoever

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Speaker 2: that wins that job or takes that job later in

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Speaker 2: the years.

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Speaker 1: It feels like with Keon Coleman, Curtis Samuel, Josh Palmer,

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Speaker 1: and Khalil Shaki of course Elijah Moore, Leviskus, Leviscus Channel. Yeah,

447
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Speaker 1: the much much deeper and much more proven wide receiver

448
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Speaker 1: room than they were a year ago. But like we said,

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Speaker 1: and we got into this because of the you know,

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Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs and where they feel like they're at.

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Speaker 1: And Mahomes says his his statement this offseason after the

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Speaker 1: tough Super Bowl loss was listen, let's just get on

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Speaker 1: the field and play. Let's just let's just do our

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Speaker 1: talking on the field. There's there's nothing you can say

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Speaker 1: about the game we played against Philly let's just go

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Speaker 1: and you know you can. It's a wise decision. It's

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Speaker 1: it's a nice it's a nice message to put out there,

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Speaker 1: but there, you know, take it from a guy who knows.

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Speaker 1: When you lose a Super Bowl the way the Chiefs did,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna you're gonna take some slings and arrows in

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Speaker 1: the offseason. And it started here just because of his

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Speaker 1: dad Bod.

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Speaker 3: You know so, oh well, mention, this is about the

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Speaker 3: Dadbod thing. And you know this better than anyone.

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Speaker 2: Quarterbacks they need a little bit more blubber on them

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Speaker 2: than other positions. Twenty plus games of getting hit like,

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 1: Know, you look like I grew up watching Billy Kilmer

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Speaker 1: play and he looks like Grandpa Bod. I mean, it

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Speaker 1: was back in the day. Guys were popping, they were

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Speaker 1: giving guy when I was a rookie. You finished the game,

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Speaker 1: think about this this, think about this. You'd finish the game,

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Speaker 1: shower up, and you go to the get on the

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Speaker 1: bus to go to the airport, airplane to go home. Right,

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Speaker 1: so an away game, So you get on the bus,

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Speaker 1: go to the airport, drive out on the tarmac to

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Speaker 1: get on the private the charter flight you're getting on

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Speaker 1: the flight and a guy at the bottom of the

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Speaker 1: stairs of the airplane is sitting there. He's got bags

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Speaker 1: of eye and each bag has ice and three beers

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Speaker 1: in it. Each guy. It's like, it's like getting a

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Speaker 1: pair of socks. Here's your here's your three beers. Here's

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Speaker 1: your three beers. Here's your three beers. Like you didn't

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Speaker 1: even that, you didn't ask. They didn't have to ask

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Speaker 1: for it. They were like here, take like, take these

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Speaker 1: you need it. Yeah, I'm like that, that's a different world.

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Speaker 3: Whatever you need to get to the next Sunday.

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Speaker 1: So the dad bod thing was like, yeah, they take

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Speaker 1: so much physical punishment at that position.

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Speaker 3: I don't need you to be in. It's crazy three

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Speaker 3: percent body foul.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how those guys did it. I go

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Speaker 1: I say this all the time. You go back and

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Speaker 1: watch nineteen seventies NFL films. It's a bar fight. It

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Speaker 1: is an absolute bar fight. So I don't know how

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Speaker 1: they got I don't know how they got it together

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Speaker 1: to do it back in the day, because you know

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Speaker 1: now they got all this. You know they got accupuncture,

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Speaker 1: cold cold pools, they got massage therapists, chiropractors, pain men

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Speaker 1: for crying out loud. But the you know, the old guys,

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Speaker 1: they they give me the pain meds and that's it

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Speaker 1: right right. So I don't know Pat Mahomes suffering through

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Speaker 1: a tough offseason after a tough Super Bowl loss. He'll

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Speaker 1: be all right. He'll be all right. Also, one last

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Speaker 1: thing here is we get Wind Up Our around the NFL,

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Speaker 1: presented by Clyda Hill.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Those of you who listen to the show on a

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Speaker 1: regular basis, you know we have Dan Orlovsky on ESPN analysts.

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Speaker 1: He just signed an extension with the NFL, so NFL

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Speaker 1: with ESPN, so he'll be continue to be on NFL Live,

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Speaker 1: He'll continue to be on Monday Night Football for select

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Speaker 1: games in the booth, He'll still be on Sports Center,

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Speaker 1: He'll still be on Get Up Uh, and hopefully we'll

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Speaker 1: reach out to him and hopefully he'll come back on

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Speaker 1: our show on a weekly basis as well. So Dan

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Speaker 1: Orlofski back in the ESPN fold. It is Uh, it's

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Speaker 1: good to hear. I I met Dan first. I first

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Speaker 1: met him. He had just been retired from the NFL

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Speaker 1: and he started doing social media posts. Not nothing. He yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean to do. So he would post stuff and

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Speaker 1: say here's what I'm looking at, and he would break

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Speaker 1: it down as he has done, has done so well

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Speaker 1: for us over there, and it was, you know, since

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Speaker 1: he's got good stuff, he knows what he's talking about.

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Speaker 1: He's a quarterback, he's a thinker. He was a thinker

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Speaker 1: more than a player obviously. Right. So, as a result

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Speaker 1: of that, he got on the radar of all the networks, CBS, NBC,

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Speaker 1: you know, ESPN, everybody. He got invited to an off

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Speaker 1: season boondoggle that I got invited to by CBS. Right,

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Speaker 1: So I met him, we played some golf together. He's

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Speaker 1: a tremendous guy and that was my first interaction with him,

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Speaker 1: and I knew all that, you know, five years ago

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Speaker 1: he was gonna be gonna be great now certainly he

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Speaker 1: just now he's signed up for his sixth year or

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Speaker 1: maybe his seventh year. I don't know, but Dani Oldowski,

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Speaker 1: hopefully we'll get him on and he'll be on the

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Speaker 1: show as a regular guest throughout the season again. But

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Speaker 1: you and I should sign his contract. I'm pretty sure.

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Speaker 2: I will say, from an outsider's perspective, I just love

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Speaker 2: his blend of how he's able to for a casual

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Speaker 2: fan who may not know what the X receiver is

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Speaker 2: supposed to do on any given play, he does a

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Speaker 2: phenomenal job of, I don't want to say, dumming it down,

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Speaker 2: but making it much easier to digest. And the fact

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Speaker 2: that he's able to do that in the television format

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Speaker 2: a lot of the times where you only have two

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Speaker 2: three minutes to do so and break that down, he's phenomenal.

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Speaker 3: So good for him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, another thing too around the NFL. Despite they resume talks,

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Speaker 1: but there hasn't been any progress between the Cincinnati Bengals

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Speaker 1: and their pass rusher Trey Hendrickson on their new deal.

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Speaker 1: He's still hanging out there kind of twisting in the wind.

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Speaker 1: The there's been some Another thing for those of you

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Speaker 1: are interested in this, The Commanders came out with a

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Speaker 1: new uniform. Do you do you like that stuff?

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Speaker 3: I'm in the uniforms.

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Speaker 1: I kind of like it. It's an it's a it's

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Speaker 1: the old uniform they used to have, except without with

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Speaker 1: the logo on. It is a w and on the

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Speaker 1: helmet instead of instead of the profile of the Native American. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'd be Way into it if I was, if it

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Speaker 1: was Buffalo doing this, But I don't know. Is that

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Speaker 1: different than what they've been wearing.

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Speaker 3: Apparently the helmet looks a little different.

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Speaker 2: I say the helmet that the stripe down the middle

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Speaker 2: I think is the biggest difference.

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Speaker 3: I think it's more of a like a red.

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Speaker 2: That maroon color is more solid throughout the helmet traditional jersey,

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Speaker 2: So I like the look. I will say most of

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Speaker 2: the throwback uniforms look better than the ones today anyways.

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Speaker 1: And I think they do that on purpose.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I do miss the Broncos orange jerseys. I missed

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Speaker 2: those a ton, even growing up in northeast Ohio. What

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Speaker 2: Elway did to the browns, I shouldn't like those uniforms. However,

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Speaker 2: those are beautiful in that Bronco on the side of

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Speaker 2: the helmet.

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Speaker 3: I'm grateful that they brought those back.

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Speaker 1: I guess all right, Steve Tasker, Carl Jones here with

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Speaker 1: you until three o'clock. Trevor Sickamol joined us at the

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Speaker 1: top of the second hour. Stay with us. You're listening

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Speaker 1: to One Bills Live on Buffalo Bills Radio, presented by CLYDEA.

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Speaker 3: Health.

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back Welcome back to One Bill's Life.

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker Carl Jones with here, we're asking you what

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Speaker 1: new wrinkle do you want the Bills to utilize on

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Speaker 1: offense or defense? And we've got some a ton of

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Speaker 1: responses already. I knew this would be a good topic

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Speaker 1: because you know, we hear it all the time on

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Speaker 1: the show about people having idea about how to do

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Speaker 1: this and do that. And the first one we got

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Speaker 1: back was from Houseman time. He says, I'm being serious.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to laugh when he's being serious. But

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Speaker 1: use Reggie Gilliam more in the receiving game. He has

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Speaker 1: legitimate speed and good hands, so why not drop some

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Speaker 1: plays where he's available as a target. It's not a

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Speaker 1: major thing, but a nice wrinkle that would catch defenses

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Speaker 1: off guard. I get I like him too. I think

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Speaker 1: Reggie can play. He's a really good special teams contributor. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: he's you know, I just he's listed as a full base,

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Speaker 1: the only fullback on the roster. But I would agree

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Speaker 1: it does give the defense something to think about it.

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Speaker 1: I've always been, or of late, i've really been into

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Speaker 1: different personnel combinations because the Bills they don't care who's playing,

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Speaker 1: somebody's gonna catch it. So if you put two backs

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Speaker 1: on the field, nobody puts two backs on the field anymore, Right,

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Speaker 1: you never have a fullback. Whatever, throw them out there,

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Speaker 1: put Reggie in with Jim, James Cook or Ty John whoever.

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Speaker 1: I always like different personnel combinations, and I think because

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Speaker 1: I really feel like it does something to the defense,

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Speaker 1: they don't know what to think, particularly if you've never

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Speaker 1: done it before night. I think with the Everybody Eats mantra,

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Speaker 1: it fits right into that.

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Speaker 2: That's an extra five to ten minutes and minimum that

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Speaker 2: the defense has to prepare for that stace. Like when

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Speaker 2: you think about just making giving a defensive coordinator a headache,

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Speaker 2: you got to be like, all right, if I literally

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Speaker 2: put this twice on film where Reggie Gillen goes to

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Speaker 2: the flat out of this formation and then in another word,

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Speaker 2: he's going up this scene, that is something where a

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Speaker 2: defensive coordinator is like, okay, listen, when forty one's in

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Speaker 2: the game and he's in this formation, we have to

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Speaker 2: have our intendants up in alert for that.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: That's just one that's just five to ten minutes that

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Speaker 2: takes away from something else that they could be preparing for.

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Speaker 2: So I think it's always a good idea to show

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Speaker 2: as many as much as you can on tape.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you've got guys like Reggie Gilliam who

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Speaker 1: can play and show flashes once in a while. And

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Speaker 1: I get it too, for every time you you give

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Speaker 1: a guy an opportunity, you know somebody else isn't who's

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Speaker 1: also proven to be good. But I the everybody eats

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Speaker 1: mantra and the fact that they had everybody buy in has

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Speaker 1: was really I mean, if they tapped into something I think,

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Speaker 1: and I think to maximize it, you gotta have more

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Speaker 1: people so that if everybody's gonna eat, we have more

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Speaker 1: people eating. It's just more more more points, more yards,

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Speaker 1: more opportunities, more problems for the defense. So I'm all

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Speaker 1: about it. I think that was a great I think

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Speaker 1: it's a great take.

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Speaker 2: I remember last year, going into that Patriots game the

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Speaker 2: last final week of the season, he was the only

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Speaker 2: player on offense that didn't have a touchdown and to

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Speaker 2: set that record of as many players, right, so I

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Speaker 2: know he was geeked up to maybe break the record

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Speaker 2: and be the final person to reach the end zone.

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Speaker 3: So maybe Joe Brady forward.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and as we go to our second tweet, sensing

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Speaker 1: a trend already, Nick says, two tight end sets. I

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Speaker 1: feel like we haven't seen too much of Knox and

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Speaker 1: kin Kate on the field together. If kink can make

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Speaker 1: the big year three leap and Knox being a very

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Speaker 1: good tight end too, it could cause some serious matchup issues. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: That that's more of what we've been talking about. Personnel combinations,

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Speaker 1: to me are a key component of a really good offense,

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Speaker 1: particularly one with a roster and then philosophy like the

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Speaker 1: Bills had. So I might have to start pounding on

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Speaker 1: that drum today and not let up until forever. Because

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Speaker 1: if they're going to have everybody eat, the more people

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Speaker 1: eating the better. And more combinations, more personnel combinations, more formations,

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Speaker 1: a lot, you know, more creative motion, but getting more

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Speaker 1: guys on the field with a chance to contribute and

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Speaker 1: giving them opportunities together like throw them the ball, don't

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Speaker 1: put them out there and put them in pass protection,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I love that idea.

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Speaker 3: I think twelve personnel.

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Speaker 2: I was doing research earlier this offseason on just personnel

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Speaker 2: groupings and trends around the National Football League twelve personnel

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Speaker 2: was as high as it was last year in the

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Speaker 2: last like ten to fifteen years. So clearly this is

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Speaker 2: a League White trend and it puts defense in conflict

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Speaker 2: when you have two tight ends who can do both,

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Speaker 2: who can run out for a route as well as

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Speaker 2: run block, and if Dalton k and Kid can I know.

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Speaker 2: The big emphasis from Brandan Being and Sean mcgermmery this

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00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 2: off season was to get them stronger and at the

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Speaker 2: point of contact, not just for injury purposes, but also

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Speaker 2: as a productive player down in and down out. So

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Speaker 2: if he's able to block the backside defensive end where

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Speaker 2: the run play's going away from him or whatever the

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Speaker 2: case may be, that adds a lot of versatility to

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Speaker 2: the offense, where usually when it's twelve personnel, you're like, oh,

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Speaker 2: you're assuming that it's going to be a run play. Well,

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Speaker 2: if ye, maybe by mid October, you really don't know

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Speaker 2: when Knoxic and Cater out there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And then also from Jeremy, he chimes in in

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Speaker 1: the same way, we've got to find a way to

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Speaker 1: get our tight ends more involved. Almost every team that

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Speaker 1: has made it too or won the Super Bowl has

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Speaker 1: had elite level talent at that position. We may not

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Speaker 1: have elite level talent on the roster, but we need

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Speaker 1: to have our guys produce more than they have. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'll say this, you'd like to see him do that, sure,

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Speaker 1: but it's hard to throw stones at the production of

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Speaker 1: the offense. And I know you'd like to see it

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Speaker 1: maybe look different, But overall, it's that side of the

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Speaker 1: ball has been money. I'm surprised we haven't heard anything

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Speaker 1: about the defensive side of the ball yet in the

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Speaker 1: first few tweets, because that's really where you're looking at going. Man,

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Speaker 1: if they didn't get turnovers at a regular rate, they

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Speaker 1: would really struggled to be a playoff team.

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Speaker 2: Last year, that side of the ball wasn't It wasn't

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Speaker 2: good enough. They weren't good enough situationally, I think that

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Speaker 2: was the biggest issues right now.

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Speaker 1: Third down, they couldn't get anybody off the field.

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Speaker 2: It was a struggle and that shows up against the

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Speaker 2: best teams in the National Football League. When you're going

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Speaker 2: up against no disrespect to the Titans or the Browns

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Speaker 2: or whatever the case may be, you can get away

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Speaker 2: with some of the maybe not being as great in

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Speaker 2: situational situations, whether that's third down, four minutes, two minute,

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Speaker 2: second and short opportunities because you just have more talent

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Speaker 2: than them. But when you're going up against Joe Burrow,

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Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes, you need to excel in those

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Speaker 2: areas because they're going to do the same on the

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Speaker 2: other side of the ball.

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Speaker 1: Right And I'm going to ask you this because you're

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Speaker 1: a former corner. This from NBCB says the defense should

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Speaker 1: take advantage of the individual talents of the new and

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Speaker 1: existing players and use them with various blitz packages from

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Speaker 1: all directions, as well as a four to three and

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Speaker 1: a three four to confuse the opponents. We will be unpredictable.

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Speaker 1: This is the first defensive take we've had, telp. Why

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Speaker 1: is it difficult or is it difficult for a team

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Speaker 1: to switch back and forth four to three to three four?

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Speaker 1: I mean all of that, except people think, let's change

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Speaker 1: it up as much on defense as we do on offense.

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Speaker 1: What's the challenge for that?

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Speaker 2: I will say in talking about the four to three

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Speaker 2: and three fourth part, you want to major in what

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Speaker 2: you do so well. That is really hard week to

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Speaker 2: week to change up your personnel and change up their assignments.

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Speaker 2: Week on the week to week basis, because you got

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Speaker 2: your guys this information overload by that point, and they

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Speaker 2: won't be able to play fast because at the end

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Speaker 2: of the day, defense is just all about reacting and playing.

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Speaker 3: As fast as you possibly can.

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Speaker 2: So if you're always playing off your back foot to

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Speaker 2: what the offense is trying to do, you're you're behind

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Speaker 2: the eight ball by that point. So I understand people

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Speaker 2: want to see more creativity and more funky stuff. Also,

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Speaker 2: the four to three and three, four and twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: five is blended is as it's ever been. So like

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Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steelers for the longest time, where this team

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Speaker 2: that majored in NTO three four Plitzburg.

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Speaker 3: Right, you go watch the Pittsburgh Steelers in like the

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Speaker 3: middle of October.

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Speaker 1: There's four man front.

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Speaker 2: They still have a four man front. So like that,

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Speaker 2: I think that ideology is kind of dated a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I'll say this as well. You know, you get back

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Speaker 1: in the day and I used to the Bills used

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Speaker 1: to play Miami twice you can still do. And Don

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Speaker 1: Shula and his defensive philosophy and his defensive coaches, they

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Speaker 1: did very few things on their menu, but they were

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Speaker 1: really good at it, and that's one of the that's

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Speaker 1: the philosophy. Give your defense a defense. They look the

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Speaker 1: same every play attack our defense doing what And we've

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Speaker 1: got guys who play their role extremely We drafted him

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Speaker 1: so he could play the corner again on a cover

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Speaker 1: two corner, and he could play it well and play

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Speaker 1: zone and do it. They draft guys that have the

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Speaker 1: skill set and the physical abilities and the attributes you

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Speaker 1: need to play this type of defense all the time.

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Speaker 1: They used to do that back in the day. And

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Speaker 1: you think, well, well, they're keeping it simple. They're kind

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Speaker 1: of get predictable. They do. But they also because of

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Speaker 1: their constant and short menu of defenses, they know where

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Speaker 1: you want to attack them. They're expecting you to hit

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Speaker 1: them down the sideline deep you know, they're expecting you

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00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: to send a guy down they have to carry it

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00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 1: tight end down the middle of the field against Cover two.

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Speaker 1: They're expecting all of this stuff. They know it. So

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00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 1: it's hard to fool them, and it's hard to outplay

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Speaker 1: them when they're doing something they do extremely well. That's

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Speaker 1: the philosophy that has permeated the league for a long time. Now.

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Speaker 1: Having said that, you're getting more and more college players

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Speaker 1: come out who have played a lot of different stuff.

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Speaker 1: And now the collegers are getting more complicated. They're getting

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Speaker 1: better at teaching their kids at lower levels. So you're

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00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: getting and the league, as domb is starting to be

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Speaker 1: able to take advantage of teams if they're predictable. They've

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Speaker 1: got good enough players and concepts and quarterbacks who can

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00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: fit it in and they'll hit you. You need to get

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Speaker 1: in the quarterback's mind so that when he drops back

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Speaker 1: to pass, he has to hesitate. So if he drops

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Speaker 1: back and says, this is going to be a cover too,

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Speaker 1: just like it always is. And he drops back and

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00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: he says, wait a minute, it's not okay, so what

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Speaker 1: is it? And by that time he's on the ground.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean. So the league has evolved

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Speaker 1: and continue and because of different coaches, philosophies and the

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00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: guys they draft, some teams can like the old Baltimore

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00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 1: Ravens man you they were complicated.

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00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 2: I think when you watch the Buffalo Bills, they do

797
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 2: a good job of disguise. They're always at the top

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00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 2: of the league in diskis rates and rotating from single

799
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 2: high to the too high and all that good Jazz.

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Speaker 2: What I want to see them do this year is

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Speaker 2: get into a little bit more variety in terms of

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Speaker 2: man coverage, because I remember going back to the AFC

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Speaker 2: Championship game and the personnel dictated.

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Speaker 1: It a little bit sure injuries, ye.

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Speaker 2: Yeah and all that. That first drive they were end

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00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 2: zone and they just rpeled him to death. Patrick Homes just, oh,

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Speaker 2: you vacated, We're gonna throw it right there.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 2: So the Bills their answer was we're going to man

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Speaker 2: coverage just to take away the RPO stuff. Unfortunately for

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Speaker 2: the Bills, they didn't have the personnel in the back

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Speaker 2: end as well as upfront. They couldn't get to patch

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Speaker 2: My Homes consistently. So I think this year, with an

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Speaker 2: improved defensive line, you get a Maxwell Harrison in there,

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Speaker 2: maybe Col Bishop can rotate down be a more athletic safety.

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Speaker 2: Now you have you major in zone coverage. It's a

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Speaker 2: zone league now. But if the opportunity and the matchup

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00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 2: presents itself to where you have to play man coverage,

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Speaker 2: you're not playing much a hand of time.

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Speaker 1: You can sprinkle it in not as a response to

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Speaker 1: where you're getting hurt, but as a change up to

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Speaker 1: give them some hesitation to get them on the ground. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's that's right. You sprinkle in man coverage when you want,

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Speaker 1: not when they're killing you the other out of zone,

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00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: So you gotta change. That's more obviously more desirable, And

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Speaker 1: I think that's a good a good point. If you

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Speaker 1: get better athletically on the edges and better at the

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Speaker 1: pass rush, just not like transformative, but incrementally better at

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Speaker 1: both places, you're gonna reap exponential results because one compliments

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Speaker 1: the other on any given day and the matchups are

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Speaker 1: more in your favor. That, to me is where most

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Speaker 1: of this Twitter question we're talking about. I thought, would come,

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Speaker 1: what new wrinkle do you want the Bills to utilize

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Speaker 1: on offense and defense? This man's own thing is really

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Speaker 1: is intriguing to me because now you might have with

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Speaker 1: Trey White being back in the fold, with Christian Benford,

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Speaker 1: Maxwell Harriston, you got some guys that can go. Obviously

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Speaker 1: with Taron Johnson, you can match up with some teams better.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get back to the tweets you. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: take a break right here, Steve Tasker, Carl Jones. This

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bill's Lives. Steve Tasker along with

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Speaker 1: Carl Jones, we're here. We're gonna have Trevor Sikima of

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Speaker 1: Pro Football focus on at the top of the hour.

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Speaker 1: We're just asking you about your ideas for what the

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00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 1: offense or defense should add to their arsenal. What wrinkle

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00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: should the Bills add, either offensively or defensively. We love

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00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,839
Speaker 1: your opinion and we're getting a ton of them on

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00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: our tweet sheet. From Tim, he says an offense on offense,

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00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 1: he says he wants a version of the hurry. You

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00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 1: may be too young for this, Carl, but every time

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00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,919
Speaker 1: anything happens, somebody throws in the no huddle offense. Where

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00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 1: with the Jim Kelly ran and all those guys ran,

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00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: and we crushed the league doing it. It's fun to watch,

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00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 1: it's a blast, and sometimes it does solve some problems

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Speaker 1: when you go hurry, you know what it is. But

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Speaker 1: nowadays it's just the league has evolved to a point

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Speaker 1: where they want to know as much as they can

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Speaker 1: about what the defense is doing because their quarterbacks are

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00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 1: trained that way back in the day. And one of

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Speaker 1: the reasons that worked way back well, it worked because

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Speaker 1: you had a Hall of first ballot Hall of Fame quarterback,

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Speaker 1: you had a second ballot Hall of Fame running back,

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Speaker 1: you had a Hall of Fame wide two Hall of

867
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Speaker 1: Fame wide receivers, and you had the biggest offensive line

868
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:31,399
Speaker 1: in football. So you go fast. You can either run

869
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: it with the Hall of Fame running back or throw

870
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 1: it to the two Hall of famers with the quarterback

871
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: making the calls, and they went. They ran to play

872
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: every fifteen seconds. Forget about whether the play clock was started,

873
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 1: where the game clock was started or stopped. They were

874
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 1: running to play every fifteen or sixteen seconds. So it

875
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 1: was if you got a first down, the defense was gassed.

876
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: So that sounds like a full proof plan and it

877
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: was a good offense. But the problem was, you know teams,

878
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 1: there's teams had an answer for it. And the answer was,

879
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: and a lot of people don't realize, is the answer

880
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:12,439
Speaker 1: was pressure. You only blocked five. You had three wide

881
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 1: receivers on the team, and everybody was out all time.

882
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 1: We was very hard not to get five guys out

883
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: in the pattern. He had five guys protecting. They would

884
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 1: send six every single time, and your quarterback got hit

885
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 1: in the mouth every single time, so and you had

886
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: to get rid of it fast, even if they blocked

887
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: it up. So that was the answer, and it worked

888
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 1: for some teams, didn't work for others, but that was

889
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,240
Speaker 1: the answer, and your quarterback was going to take a pounding.

890
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 2: I didn't obviously play against the no huddle or see

891
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 2: it in the National Football League, but as Syracuse our

892
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 2: coach lived and died by the no huddle. And it

893
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,320
Speaker 2: works when fall camp early on in the year because

894
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 2: the coverage menu on defenses isn't that expansive.

895
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: They start to, yeah, you close down the defensive calls

896
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: and they start to get predictive.

897
00:43:57,960 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 3: When it's no huddle. It's like, all they only going

898
00:43:59,320 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 3: to run two three.

899
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 2: But then, as you just alluded to, once we got

900
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 2: more comfortable, more in shape, every once in a while,

901
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 2: you can want to run a no huddle on second down.

902
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 2: We're just going to send a nickel and you're not

903
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 2: gonna expect it. And no one wants to have their

904
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 2: quarterback just hit and right because people at home and

905
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 2: when you see the center Josh Allen point out all

906
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 2: of these possible threats that are they don't do that

907
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 2: in no houldle because they're trying to snap the ball

908
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 2: as closely as possible. So, hey, you want to keep

909
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 2: Josh Allen healthy. You don't want to lean into it

910
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 2: as much as as you can.

911
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 1: And plus the bad part of it is the defenses

912
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: are sophisticated too, and they can make some calls and

913
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: they'll have some guys who can who are experienced, and

914
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 1: it's not going to bother them. I'll say this though,

915
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Speaker 1: you get a couple of first downs in the no huddle,

916
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: the defense is like they're like hands on their knees.

917
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,879
Speaker 1: They're like, you know that. That's when it gets good.

918
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 1: If you can get first downs. Yeah, it's sky's the limit.

919
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: It's it's really good because then they do run out

920
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: of plays and they do start shortening it up, shortening

921
00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: it up, shortening it up. But you got to get

922
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 1: first downs to do and if you don't, your defense

923
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,280
Speaker 1: is going to be right back on the field again,

924
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Speaker 1: and there you are.

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Speaker 2: I remember in fall camp my one way to combat

926
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 2: that I just grabbed. I got a personal off pass interference.

927
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to run every single play take me

928
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 2: out cold. Yeah, I don't have to tank to do this.

929
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. From the tweetsheet again, what wrinkle would you like

931
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: the offense or defense of the Bills to show up

932
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 1: with this year? From nowhere times anywhere? Three tight end

933
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 1: formations and or more running back flat routes. I'd like

934
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 1: to see a stretch the defensive lines wider and make

935
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Speaker 1: them choose to commit to the line of scrimmage or

936
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: the secondary gap with someone else but Josh on a

937
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 1: consistent basis. Yeah, they either commit to Josh or somebody

938
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: else on a consistent basis. Yeah. The tight ends and

939
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: the different personnel formations are kind of the theme of

940
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 1: the day so far at this early stage. They want

941
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: to see more combinations with haw as the third tight

942
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 1: end this you know, Jackson Hawes. Yeah, a big, big,

943
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 1: physical tight end like Hawes is. Yeah. I mean you

944
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Speaker 1: get three tight ends and you've got a receiver, an

945
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: all around and a blocker tight end, you know, So

946
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Speaker 1: that I get that, And you could also put Hawes

947
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 1: on there and he would be a threat to more

948
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: of a threat to catch the pass more than maybe

949
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 1: an Alec Anderson is a sixth offensive lineman, right, So Uh,

950
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 1: that gives you a little bit more versatility out of

951
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 1: that formation. Maybe maybe I.

952
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Speaker 3: See the potential. It's a whole lot of fun to

953
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 3: envision it, for sure. That's fun.

954
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Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna take When we get back, Trevor

955
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: Sikima from Pro Football Focus is going to talk to us.

956
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: We'll be back Steve Tasker Carl Jones on One Bills

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Speaker 1: here with you until three o'clock. We are pleased now

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Speaker 1: to be joined by Pro Football Focused NFL Draft analyst

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Speaker 1: Trevor Sikima. He's also the co host of the NFL

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Speaker 1: Stock Exchange podcast. Trevor, thanks for coming in with us

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00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,879
Speaker 1: here with Steve and Carl. Appreciate you taking the time.

966
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Speaker 1: Love some of the content you've been putting out. Some

967
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,879
Speaker 1: of it is kind of timely. I never think about this,

968
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Speaker 1: and then when you you did this article about coordinators.

969
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 1: It's always a little bit timely. Because we got new

970
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 1: head coaches in the league, like the Detroit Lions lost

971
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 1: both their coordinators this year, Aaron ben Johnson and Aaron

972
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,879
Speaker 1: Glenn to different head coaching positions. The Bills have lost

973
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:21,359
Speaker 1: a coordinator in the recent past, as Brian da Ball

974
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 1: went to the New York Giants. It's a thing, right,

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00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,919
Speaker 1: So you put out a list of guys that maybe

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00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:32,240
Speaker 1: we should keep our eyes on about getting head coaching jobs.

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Speaker 1: What's give us your the gist of that?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So, I mean Joe Brady's on that list, right,

979
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 5: and he has to be as the offensive coordinator for

980
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 5: the Buffalo Bills. I mean, you look at it when

981
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 5: since he has taken over really as the interim you know,

982
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 5: offensive coordinator and then full time offensive coordinator, the Bills

983
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 5: have been number one. They've had the number one EPA

984
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 5: per pass in the NFL over the last year and

985
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 5: a half, and they've had the number two EPA per rush.

986
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Speaker 5: And anytime you have that type of success, of course

987
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 5: the teams in the NFL are gonna want a piece

988
00:48:58,080 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 5: of that.

989
00:48:58,320 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 6: And so, you know, I think that's work.

990
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 5: What's working for Joe Brady as well is and I

991
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 5: say this in the article, He's not unfamiliar to this spotlight. Right,

992
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 5: you go all the way back to twenty nineteen, he

993
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 5: was the pass game coordinator for LSU. He wasn't even

994
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 5: the play caller and the offensive coordinator, and yet he

995
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 5: was talked about as sort of this next hot shot

996
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 5: NFL offensive coordinator that was going to become an NFL

997
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 5: head coach. And obviously, with him getting his first in

998
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 5: as an offensive coordinator with Matt ruland Carolina, it felt

999
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,240
Speaker 5: like we jumped the shark a little bit early there.

1000
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Speaker 5: But I feel like he could be ready now, especially

1001
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 5: if it's another year where things are going great. And

1002
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 5: of course Josh allen Is is all world talented, there's

1003
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 5: no doubt about that. But anytime you have this level

1004
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 5: of success on the offensive side of the ball, and

1005
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 5: specifically with a talented quarterback, like I said, other teams

1006
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Speaker 5: are going to want to get in on the mix

1007
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 5: of that. Because a lot of these teams they're going

1008
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 5: to be hiring head coaches, there's a chance that they've

1009
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 5: either got young quarterbacks or just they're about to be

1010
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 5: drafting quarterbacks, and so they're going to want somebody who

1011
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 5: knows what it's like to have that sort of relationship

1012
00:49:57,960 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 5: where you have that success with a really important position.

1013
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,240
Speaker 5: So Brady is one of those guys that it feels

1014
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Speaker 5: like we've talked about him a handful of times throughout

1015
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 5: the last five or six years. But man, if the

1016
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Speaker 5: Bills have the year that we think that they're going

1017
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Speaker 5: to have those discussions and his name is going to

1018
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Speaker 5: be at the top of the list when it comes

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Speaker 5: to head coaching candidates.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure Bills fans are ecstatic that you're talking about

1021
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 2: their offensive coordinator in this light, but a little bitter

1022
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 2: as well that when you speak of him this way

1023
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 2: that means he's probably going to leave soon.

1024
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Speaker 3: But do you think it's a fourgone conclusion.

1025
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 2: Let's say if they're top five again in EPA pro

1026
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 2: play that he is gone because looking at Ben Johnson,

1027
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 2: he stayed a third year in Detroit and tried to

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Speaker 2: find his best case scenario that ended up being Kate

1029
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 2: Williams in Chicago. For Bills fans out there, if the

1030
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Speaker 2: Bills are successful again, do you think it's four gone conclusion?

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Speaker 3: Joe Brady's gone.

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Speaker 5: I don't think it's a guarantee. And you brought up

1033
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Speaker 5: the right example, right. You brought up Ben Johnson, who

1034
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 5: over the last two to three seasons has had the

1035
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Speaker 5: opportunity to be a head coach elsewhere, And I think

1036
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Speaker 5: that we've often operated under the thought process that if

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Speaker 5: you're a coordinator and you get a head coaching gig,

1038
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Speaker 5: that you're just going to leave, like that's what's going

1039
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 5: to happen. But we have seen before that that's now

1040
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Speaker 5: not a guarantee, and if the situation is not right,

1041
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 5: not only are there, I think that we go back

1042
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 5: to the way that they say it, whereas like, oh,

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00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:13,800
Speaker 5: there's only thirty two of these jobs in the world,

1044
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 5: thirty two head coaching jobs in the National Football League,

1045
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 5: So when you have the opportunity to get one, you

1046
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 5: got to jump on it. But if it's to a

1047
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 5: situation that's not ideal, or one that you really think

1048
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 5: could be such an uphill climb that it might be

1049
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 5: you know, it might be Mount Everest, it might be

1050
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 5: too much to overcome, then all of a sudden, all

1051
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 5: you're really doing is you're putting yourself in a bad

1052
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 5: situation to have a bad record as a head coach

1053
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 5: and not get that second contract as a head coach.

1054
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Speaker 6: And obviously be able to stick around the league.

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Speaker 5: So I think Ben Johnson kind of gave you a

1056
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 5: little bit of a blueprint of Yeah, I'll okay, it's

1057
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 5: more likely than not they do leave, but it's not

1058
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Speaker 5: a one hundred percent slam.

1059
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Speaker 6: Don't guarantee.

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Speaker 1: There are others as well. Joe Brady's not the only

1061
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator out there that's turning heads. What are some

1062
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: others that Bills fans might know or have some interest in?

1063
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Speaker 1: And and there's other I mean, this question goes on

1064
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Speaker 1: and on, like what happened What happens to the Detroit

1065
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:05,839
Speaker 1: Lions this year with two new coordinators? Right? I mean,

1066
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 1: do they continue to win games? But as for you know,

1067
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: the coordinators on the radar? Now, what are some of

1068
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 1: the names that Bills fans might recognize or maybe not recognize.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, some other guys that I think are going to

1070
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 5: be up there with Joe Brady if they have successful

1071
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 5: years for head coaching gigs on the offensive side of

1072
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 5: the ball.

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Speaker 6: I wrote in this article.

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Speaker 5: You know, Cliff Kingsbury's got to be one of them, right,

1075
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 5: He's somebody who gets sort of like Joe Brady. The

1076
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 5: last five or six years, we've talked about him as

1077
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Speaker 5: a potential head coach. Obviously he was a head coach

1078
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Speaker 5: when he was with the Arizona Cardinals, but even before then,

1079
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 5: long before then, and even after his time with the Cardinals,

1080
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 5: people have been saying like, Hey, is he going to

1081
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 5: make the jump?

1082
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 6: Is he going to be a head coach?

1083
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 5: Even with one year of success with Jayden Daniels. Last year,

1084
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 5: it was like, Hey, is Cliff going to take the

1085
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 5: jump to be a head coach again?

1086
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 6: And I think that that's probably coming.

1087
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 5: But I think that Cliff Kingsbury is looking at that

1088
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 5: similarly to sort of the conversation that we just had

1089
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 5: where he's not just going to take any head coaching opening,

1090
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 5: it's got to be the right one.

1091
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: I think.

1092
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 6: Another one is Chip Kelly.

1093
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 5: You know, Chip Kelly has been a time head coach

1094
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 5: in this league, first with the Philadelphia Eagles and then

1095
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 5: with the San Francisco forty nine ers, and he went

1096
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 5: to UCLA after that and had a couple of years

1097
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 5: at UCLA where I thought they were fine, but it

1098
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 5: clearly was not enough to get him those job opportunities

1099
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 5: that he wanted to get back in the league. So

1100
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:20,320
Speaker 5: last year he ended up leaving UCLA going to Ohio

1101
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 5: State to not even be their head coach, but be

1102
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,839
Speaker 5: their offensive coordinator, So taking a step down, if you will,

1103
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 5: but obviously being a national championship offensive coordinator comes with

1104
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:29,839
Speaker 5: its perks. Two and now he's back in the league

1105
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 5: as the offensive coordinators for the Las Vegas Raiders, and

1106
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 5: so if he has another good year there, I think

1107
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 5: that just his resume.

1108
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 6: Is going to be too much.

1109
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 5: You're gonna be get these teams that really want to

1110
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:40,360
Speaker 5: perform well on that side of the ball. And so

1111
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:42,840
Speaker 5: I would say those are two guys in the league

1112
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 5: right now that in a long term look, when you're

1113
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,359
Speaker 5: looking more towards next offseason, I can predict those guys.

1114
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 5: If they have great seasons again, they're gonna be in

1115
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 5: the head coaching conversations.

1116
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 2: You do a lot of fantastic work over at Pro

1117
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 2: Football Focus, especially in the draft community. The Bills theme

1118
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:00,800
Speaker 2: of their draft this year big people, especially big people

1119
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 2: that play on the defensive side of the ball. Was

1120
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 2: there a draft Was there a pick in particular that

1121
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 2: you're really excited to see and how they progress into

1122
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 2: their career in the National Football League.

1123
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 5: Honestly, I'm a big Landon Jackson guy, Like, I really

1124
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 5: do love Landon Jackson. I feel as though he is

1125
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 5: the same archetype as sort of what they drafted with

1126
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 5: a japan Aeson. I think ed Japanese has been fine

1127
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:21,959
Speaker 5: for them, but I think maybe they would have wanted

1128
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 5: the ceiling to be a little bit higher, see a

1129
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 5: little bit more production. I feel as though that could

1130
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 5: be the case with a land And Jackson, who I've

1131
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 5: really liked watching how he developed first as a really

1132
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 5: good run defender and now he is blossoming into a

1133
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 5: good pass rusher as well. He brings you great length,

1134
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 5: great size. He can play everything from basically a seven

1135
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 5: technique stand up outside linebacker, and of course you can

1136
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 5: reduce him inside to a five technique and a four

1137
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:46,800
Speaker 5: eye technique type of a player, whether you want to

1138
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 5: be even or an odd front. So I think that

1139
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 5: I really like that Landon Jackson pick. Obviously, the one

1140
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,839
Speaker 5: that people talk about a ton is Dion Walker, right.

1141
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 5: It's Deon Walker kind of pans out for them what

1142
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 5: a steal that would be getting him in day three

1143
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,959
Speaker 5: in the fourth round, and so they say, of course

1144
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 5: he can't teach that size and what he brings to

1145
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 5: the table in that regard. If he is able to

1146
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 5: blossom and sort of be that versatile interior defender where

1147
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 5: he can play that three four defensive end spot for you.

1148
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 5: He can play as a nose tackle for you. It's

1149
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 5: just a matter of him. For me, it was always

1150
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 5: a matter of I felt like he wasn't really playing

1151
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 5: in shape, and I don't know, this might not be

1152
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 5: all him, you know what. Sometimes Kentucky's like, Hey, we

1153
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:25,399
Speaker 5: want you to be a little bit heavier. We want

1154
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 5: you to be able to play this position. And you

1155
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 5: can see guys get to the NFL, and sometimes he's

1156
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 5: NFL strength and conditioning coaches and nutritionness and everything say

1157
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 5: whoa okay, no, no, no, you've been carrying a little bit

1158
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 5: too much weight.

1159
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 6: Let's hone in on that the right way. Let's get

1160
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 6: you a really healthy weight.

1161
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 5: And that's what I hope we can see from Dean

1162
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 5: Walker because not only will that help him be healthy,

1163
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:45,359
Speaker 5: which we learned after the draft that he was kind

1164
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 5: of struggling with a back injury throughout all of last year,

1165
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:50,959
Speaker 5: but it'll allow him to play at an optimal level

1166
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 5: when it comes to that strength and speed. So I

1167
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:54,320
Speaker 5: think those two guys along the defensive line are the

1168
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 5: ones that I'm looking at.

1169
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 1: Who do you think, as we head into training camp.

1170
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 1: Who do you think the Bill's best defensive player is?

1171
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:02,320
Speaker 6: Wow?

1172
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:05,959
Speaker 5: I think it probably, off the top of my head,

1173
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:07,879
Speaker 5: I would probably say it's Greg Russeau, Right.

1174
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 6: I love Rousseau is able to bring to the table.

1175
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:12,840
Speaker 5: This is somebody who when I was scouting him at Miami,

1176
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 5: I was just blown away by what he was able

1177
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 5: to do as a nose tackle, as a three technique,

1178
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 5: is a five technique. I mean, he was just able

1179
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 5: to do so many different things. And it feels as

1180
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 5: though the Bills give him that freedom to be able

1181
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 5: to do that weekend and week out, and he's such

1182
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 5: a chess piece for their defensive line. Obviously, Matt Mulano

1183
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 5: when he is healthy, he is fantastic. Christian Benford has

1184
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 5: been excellent for them as well. But it's that versatility

1185
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 5: of what Greg Russeau brings to that defensive line that

1186
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 5: I love so much about what they can do and

1187
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 5: how flexible they can be every single week.

1188
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 2: Is there a player on the defensive side of the

1189
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 2: ball that you want to see take a leap into

1190
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 2: that next tier, that tier that top ten, top fifteen

1191
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,280
Speaker 2: at their position that would help propel the defense going forward?

1192
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 5: Sure, I mean, you know, if you have a player

1193
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:01,399
Speaker 5: like all Verus, the first one that comes to my mind,

1194
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 5: to be honest with you, because you know, he is

1195
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 5: somebody who when I was scouting him at a Houston,

1196
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 5: It's like, man, this guy is just such unique quickness.

1197
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 6: He's such a mismatch in that regard.

1198
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 5: He's a little bit smaller, but that comes with a

1199
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 5: leverage advantage for how strong he is as well. I

1200
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 5: feel like Ed Oliver has been solid and there are

1201
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 5: times when he has been really good in giving you

1202
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:21,959
Speaker 5: some impactful play, but he hasn't taken that leap into

1203
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 5: being that consistent, disruptive one of the guys that we

1204
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 5: talk about often when we're talking about some of the

1205
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 5: best defensive tackles in the league, I feel as though

1206
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 5: they're really trying to put together a defensive line that

1207
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 5: allows guys like Oliver to get a lot of one

1208
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 5: on one situations where he can really thrive. And so

1209
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 5: I would love to see him sort of take that

1210
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 5: next step, be more of that speed rusher, utilize a

1211
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 5: lot of the physical gifts that he has, and so

1212
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 5: at Oliver's probably the first one that comes to my

1213
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 5: mind that I'd love to see him take a leap

1214
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 5: this year.

1215
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 1: One of the topics that we've had as Bill's fans

1216
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 1: in this radio station is as James Cook this offseason

1217
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 1: mostly because of his contract, And I'm not going to

1218
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 1: get into the economics of it. I'm just going to

1219
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 1: ask you where does he rank in the hierarchy of

1220
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 1: running backs in the National Football League? How good is he?

1221
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 1: What is his top end? What is the perception of

1222
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 1: him outside of of the Bills locker room.

1223
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 5: Remember, correctly, I believe that we had him as a

1224
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 5: top twenty back. I can't remember exactly where he came

1225
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 5: in on our running back rankings this offseason, but he

1226
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 5: is somebody who the best part about him is he

1227
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 5: gives you that game breaking high ceiling ability, right Like,

1228
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 5: sometimes you'll watch James Cook and sometimes it's not always

1229
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 5: like hey, okay, he'll always give you the the four

1230
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 5: or five yards per carry is. Sometimes it'll be a

1231
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 5: little bit less, but he will give you those home

1232
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 5: run hitting spots. And so when you have a deep

1233
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 5: running back rotation like the Bills have, you want to

1234
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 5: have a player who could be a feature and dynamic

1235
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 5: player for you. And so there are other backs in

1236
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 5: the league that I think.

1237
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 6: You know, maybe they'll deal with contact a little bit better.

1238
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 5: Maybe they have those yards after contact orjuice yards per

1239
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 5: attempt averages they're a little bit better, maybe their floors

1240
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 5: a little bit higher every.

1241
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 6: Single time they touch the ball.

1242
00:58:57,600 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 5: But what I loved a lot about James Cook coming

1243
00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 5: out of Georgia is I liked him first and foremost

1244
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 5: as a receiver. What he could be as a receiver

1245
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 5: out of the backfield, how sharp his routes were when

1246
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 5: matched up against the linebackers. I still think that exists

1247
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:10,959
Speaker 5: for his game and for running backs. You talk about

1248
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 5: the economics part of it. You have to bring value in.

1249
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 6: The passing game. You have to.

1250
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 5: That is how you get that second contract that you

1251
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 5: get teams to stick around with you. Not only are

1252
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 5: you great when you put the ball in your gut

1253
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 5: and you're able to take it deep and have those

1254
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 5: home run balls and showcase great athletic ability, you have

1255
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 5: to be a plus in the pass game as well.

1256
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 5: And it feels like James Cook is and can be

1257
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 5: that for you. And so that's a big part of

1258
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 5: that offense as well. And so again I can't remember

1259
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 5: exactly where he ranked on our running back rankings. But

1260
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 5: he is one of the more dynamic backs in the NFL,

1261
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 5: and it certainly doesn't hurt when you rush behind an

1262
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 5: offensive line that we had ranked third ranked offensive.

1263
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 6: Line in the NFL.

1264
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 5: For just how good and how great the chemistry is

1265
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 5: with the Buffalo Bills offensive line that no one only

1266
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 5: goes for when Josh Allen has the football, but of

1267
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 5: course when a guy like James cook has it as well.

1268
00:59:57,440 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 2: You had him ranked twelve in your ranking, so clearly

1269
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 2: in the bu average back in the National Football League.

1270
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 2: I do want to pivot to the receivers on the outside.

1271
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 2: You had them ranked nineteen. Now they've made some changes

1272
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 2: bringing in a Josh Palmer. They also added Elijah more

1273
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 2: later in the offseason. The offensive lines ranked third, James

1274
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 2: Cooks ranked twelve. Probably I presume Josh Allen is no

1275
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 2: lower than two or three. Sure, are there any concerns

1276
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 2: with the wide receivers heading into the season. Do you

1277
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 2: think they've done enough to keep the offense at this

1278
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 2: LEIU level?

1279
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 5: So I think that they've done enough with one caveat,

1280
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 5: Kean Coleman has to take the step like in my opinion,

1281
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 5: if Keon Coleman becomes your wide receiver one. Everything's gonna

1282
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 5: look great in Buffalo if he is your wide receiver one.

1283
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 5: If he is your online scrimmage ex caliber type of

1284
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 5: guy who can beat press coverage and win in the

1285
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 5: red zone, and he could just be that thousand yard

1286
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 5: wide receiver one for you. With then all of a sudden,

1287
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 5: Kaloshakir being a high volume, short yardage guy. You love

1288
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 5: that Josh Palmer could be a deep threat for you.

1289
01:00:57,640 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 5: You have the tight ends as well, and I mentioned

1290
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 5: some of the running including obviously James Cook coming out

1291
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 5: of the backfield. It all looks so much better if

1292
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 5: Kean Coleman is that wide receiver one. Now, when you

1293
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 5: look at how they played last year, and it was

1294
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 5: Coleman's rookie season, but there wasn't a single wide receiver

1295
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 5: outside of klose Kir that had a receiving grade for

1296
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 5: the year above a seventy.

1297
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 6: So klose Kiir was the only one.

1298
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 5: I believe it was a Brown in eighty point seven

1299
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 5: if I remember off the top of my head correctly.

1300
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 6: So you feel great about what you have with Shakir.

1301
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 5: You need that player who puts fear in the eyes

1302
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 5: and the hearts of the defense, especially those secondary players.

1303
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 6: Coleman has that ability to do that.

1304
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 5: So even though what I say it's the best wide

1305
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 5: receiver room in the NFL, no, I think that it

1306
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 5: is exactly what the Buffalo Bills would need to give

1307
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 5: themselves a legitimate chance to get to and win a

1308
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 5: Super Bowl if Coleman can be the.

1309
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 6: Guy who could take that next step. So that would

1310
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 6: be my answer to that.

1311
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 2: You obviously scouted Coleman coming out of the draft. I

1312
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 2: guess what type of player do you think he projects

1313
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 2: to be at his ceiling?

1314
01:01:57,680 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1315
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 5: I mean he has that wide receiver type of ceiling.

1316
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 5: Really explosive athlete, great jump ball wide receiver, and absolute

1317
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 5: alpha at the catchpoint.

1318
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 6: And this is what you want.

1319
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 5: These are things that you want from a X type

1320
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 5: of wide receiver. Somebody who knows how to win on

1321
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 5: the line of scrimmage with good releases, with strength, who

1322
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 5: can get off of press coverage, Somebody who can win

1323
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:20,720
Speaker 5: in the red zone when space is at a premium,

1324
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 5: if you will. The question with Coleman and what worried

1325
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 5: me about him, why he wasn't my wide receiver won

1326
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 5: that year, was because as much as I loved a

1327
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 5: lot of what he was athletically, he didn't translate that

1328
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 5: athletic ability into separation scores. A lot of his production

1329
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 5: and what we saw when he was at Florida State

1330
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 5: and even a Michigan State was winning in contested catch,

1331
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 5: close coverage situations. Now, ooh and ah, when you're able

1332
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:46,920
Speaker 5: to go above the rim and absolutely moss somebody and

1333
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:50,040
Speaker 5: those are big time highlight plays. But it sure is

1334
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 5: a lot easier when you can create a consistent window

1335
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:54,680
Speaker 5: of separation for your quarterback to be able to hit.

1336
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 6: That's a little bit easier. That's the next step for Coleman.

1337
01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 5: That is what holds the key to him being that

1338
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 5: wide receiver, one type of player that the Bills would need.

1339
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 6: For this wide receiver room.

1340
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 5: So that's sort of what my scouting report was of

1341
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 5: him when he was coming out of Florida State and

1342
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 5: what I'd love to see from him in his second

1343
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 5: year this year.

1344
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 1: And now that we've honed down the on the roster

1345
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 1: and all this, step back and take a look at

1346
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 1: the big picture. Look at the Bills schedule. They're playing

1347
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:19,959
Speaker 1: in the NFC South, the AFC North, and of course

1348
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 1: the AFC East. You ranked the divisions and you had

1349
01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 1: the AFC East as the seventh ranked division in the NFL,

1350
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 1: which is next to the bottom. I kind of, yeah,

1351
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 1: outside of the Bills, I kind of might have to

1352
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 1: agree with you. But how's it look for the Bills

1353
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 1: and plowing through the NFC South, the AFC North, the

1354
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:42,840
Speaker 1: AFC East and playing a first place schedule? This is

1355
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 1: We've talked about it a lot, obviously, Trevor. The season

1356
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 1: and the schedule kind of lay out very nicely for

1357
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills.

1358
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, they absolutely do.

1359
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:54,960
Speaker 5: Especially looking at it right now, I haven't had the

1360
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 5: chance to really look at it, and I see it

1361
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 5: on the screen there. I mean, you get the Chiefs,

1362
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 5: not only after the bye, but okay, you play the

1363
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:01,040
Speaker 5: Panthers after that.

1364
01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 6: I think the Panthers are going to be better this year.

1365
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 5: But then you get the Chiefs and you get them

1366
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 5: at home. Obviously, you get the Bengals at home as well.

1367
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 5: So those two teams.

1368
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 6: And the Ravens at home. I see that as well.

1369
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 5: So you get the three toughest teams in that division

1370
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 5: that you have to play, You're getting all of them

1371
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:17,920
Speaker 5: at home and a lot of the away games are

1372
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 5: against you know, teams that you feel like you're going

1373
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:22,680
Speaker 5: to have a pretty good advantage against. And the division, Yeah,

1374
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:25,920
Speaker 5: I mean the division is one of the easier divisions

1375
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 5: if there is such a thing in the NFL that

1376
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:30,040
Speaker 5: we have here, and it's been the Bills at the

1377
01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 5: very top for the last five six years, and it

1378
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 5: feels like it's going to be that again. You know,

1379
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:37,160
Speaker 5: depending on what you think of the New England Patriots

1380
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:39,440
Speaker 5: and what you think of the Jets this season, I

1381
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:39,920
Speaker 5: think those.

1382
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 6: Teams are going to be good.

1383
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 5: But are they're really going to be extremely competitive when

1384
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 5: it comes to the winning lost column against the Buffalo Bills.

1385
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:48,840
Speaker 5: I don't think so, especially when I look at this

1386
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:50,040
Speaker 5: schedule the way that it is.

1387
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 6: I'm even just noticing right now they're playing the Eagles.

1388
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 5: And they're getting the Eagles at home, and so it's

1389
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:58,960
Speaker 5: definitely a favorable schedule. It's a year where I think

1390
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 5: that a lot of those young guys, in those new additions,

1391
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 5: you can realistically expect those guys to step up. And

1392
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 5: Matt Milano is a big deal for this team. Right

1393
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 5: If Matt Milano is fully healthy and he's given you

1394
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 5: at least, like, you know, one more great year in him,

1395
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 5: I know he's getting a little bit older, but if

1396
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 5: he's got another fantastic Matt mulano esque type of a season,

1397
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 5: I really do think that one seed is within range

1398
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:26,640
Speaker 5: for them, and you can realistically predict them to be

1399
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 5: a super Bowl caliber team, especially when you look at

1400
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 5: that schedule.

1401
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 2: I really do when you look around the division, Patriots, Dolphins,

1402
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 2: and the Jets, what do you make of what Miami

1403
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 2: did this offseason? Trading away Jalen Ramsey, acquiring make It,

1404
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:44,560
Speaker 2: bringing back me Fitzpatrick, taking a defensive tackle at thirteen overall,

1405
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 2: then trading up for a guard in the second round.

1406
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:49,720
Speaker 2: They've done a lot of peculiar things this offseason. I

1407
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 2: want to hear from someone else that's outside of Western

1408
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:54,320
Speaker 2: New York. What do you think of what they've done.

1409
01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 5: I don't love what Miami has done this offseason, and

1410
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 5: I think it starts suspeny out a rebuild much more

1411
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:03,960
Speaker 5: than it does a deep playoff run and really hitting

1412
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:06,880
Speaker 5: the gas in this current winning window. I wonder if

1413
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:08,880
Speaker 5: they look at their current situation and they just go,

1414
01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 5: you know what, we tried, but the injury luck bit

1415
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:16,480
Speaker 5: them bad and it's just really unfortunate, sort of what's

1416
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:19,160
Speaker 5: happened with a couple of their great pass rushers, obviously

1417
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 5: to a tongue of Bai Loa as well the offensive

1418
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:23,600
Speaker 5: line getting toront Armstead and then him being hurt and

1419
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 5: now he's not even there anymore. But it just feels

1420
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:28,680
Speaker 5: as though a lot of the chips that they had

1421
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:30,800
Speaker 5: in the pot, it just it did not go the

1422
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 5: way that they wanted it to. And I think there's

1423
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 5: a reason why these couple of moves that Miami has

1424
01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 5: made over the last week or so, when it's involved

1425
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:46,040
Speaker 5: draft picks, it's involved twenty twenty seven draft picks, and

1426
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 5: I think that there's a reason for that. And the

1427
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 5: reason why is because I went and I looked up

1428
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:53,320
Speaker 5: a lot of the contract situations that they have on

1429
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:59,160
Speaker 5: the team and make a Fitzpatrick, Jalen Phillips, Jalen Ramsey,

1430
01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:01,720
Speaker 5: obviously Tie Hill, and then if you go to Tuatungua

1431
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:04,360
Speaker 5: Iloa as well, you could throw in Toront Armstead because

1432
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:05,800
Speaker 5: they're paying him a little bit now that he's gone,

1433
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 5: But you get.

1434
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 6: That off the books as well.

1435
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 5: All of those contracts and a lot of that guaranteed money,

1436
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:14,840
Speaker 5: and all of those their highest paid contracts is flexible

1437
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 5: and or off the books by twenty twenty seven, and

1438
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:20,440
Speaker 5: I just I wonder if Miami looks at this situation,

1439
01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:23,880
Speaker 5: and I think I wonder if they just go we

1440
01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:27,520
Speaker 5: tried with this current regime. But I'm not so sure

1441
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 5: that unless they make a deep playoff run this year,

1442
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:34,520
Speaker 5: unless they at least win that first wild Card weekend matchup,

1443
01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 5: which I would assume that if they're gonna make it,

1444
01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:37,920
Speaker 5: they're gonna make it as a wildcard team unless they

1445
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 5: win that matchup, and then maybe they've even got to

1446
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 5: win another one. I don't know if this current bill

1447
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 5: of the Miami Dolphins is for the long haul. I

1448
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:48,280
Speaker 5: think that instead this team is maybe one foot out

1449
01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 5: the door a little bit and realizing that, hey, we

1450
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 5: might as well hit reset and maybe be able to

1451
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:58,800
Speaker 5: time when the Buffalo Bills aren't at the very peak

1452
01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:01,360
Speaker 5: of the division. Maybe try to time a year where

1453
01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:03,480
Speaker 5: they take a little bit of a step back, because

1454
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:05,160
Speaker 5: I just don't know if that's gonna happen over the

1455
01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:07,360
Speaker 5: next couple of years, and Miami just doesn't feel like

1456
01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:08,320
Speaker 5: they're going in that direction.

1457
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 1: The two other teams in the division, the New Orleans

1458
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 1: New Orleans, New England, Patriots and the New York Jets,

1459
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 1: both brand new head coaches. Although Vrabel is a guy

1460
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:19,240
Speaker 1: that came up from Tennessee and had a pretty good

1461
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:22,720
Speaker 1: what I thought was a pretty good run in Tennessee

1462
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 1: with the Titans. Aaron Glenn really one of the hottest

1463
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 1: names in the coaching market who's not been a head

1464
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:32,600
Speaker 1: coach coming in this year's hiring cycle. Which one of

1465
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:35,679
Speaker 1: those guys do you like the situation better? Which one

1466
01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:37,040
Speaker 1: is set up for more success?

1467
01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:38,360
Speaker 3: Well?

1468
01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:40,760
Speaker 5: I think that the Jets might be set up for

1469
01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:44,600
Speaker 5: more success this coming year. But they're gonna be an

1470
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:47,400
Speaker 5: interesting case study because man, I think they're gonna run

1471
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:49,280
Speaker 5: the football a lot. You know, I think you look

1472
01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:51,360
Speaker 5: at this offensive line. You obviously look at Brice Hall.

1473
01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:53,559
Speaker 5: It's a major year for him. It's a crucial year there.

1474
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:55,800
Speaker 5: You signed Justin Fields, and Justin Fields I think is

1475
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 5: getting better as a passer, but he's, you know, somebody

1476
01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:00,400
Speaker 5: who's able to give you a lot of a lot

1477
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:02,679
Speaker 5: of threat with what he can do with his legs

1478
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:05,559
Speaker 5: and sort of an RPO and a dual threat rushing offense.

1479
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 5: I just think that the Jets are going to run

1480
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:08,679
Speaker 5: the ball a lot. They're going to control the clock

1481
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 5: a lot. They're going to try to win with their defense,

1482
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 5: and it's going to be a very Aaron Glenn's style

1483
01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:14,519
Speaker 5: type of team in my opinion. They're going to try

1484
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:16,640
Speaker 5: to beat you up front in the trenches, and I

1485
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 5: think that again, that will make for a competitive team.

1486
01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:21,240
Speaker 5: Will that make for a playoff team, I'm not so

1487
01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:23,599
Speaker 5: convinced there. I think the goal should more be sort

1488
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:26,280
Speaker 5: of that five hundred marked than anything else. For the Patriots,

1489
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:28,320
Speaker 5: I think the goal is probably similar for them.

1490
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:29,120
Speaker 6: You're hoping that.

1491
01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 5: Drake May really takes that next step up, but really

1492
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:33,400
Speaker 5: you're just hoping the offensive side of the ball looks

1493
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:33,880
Speaker 5: a lot better.

1494
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:36,679
Speaker 6: They've got Josh McDaniels. Not only did they have Mike.

1495
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:39,360
Speaker 5: Rabel and experienced head coach, they've got Josh McDaniels back

1496
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:41,760
Speaker 5: as that offensive coordinator, and so you know, with him

1497
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:43,439
Speaker 5: being back there, somebody who's done it for such a

1498
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 5: long time, you hope that that veteran voice is great

1499
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:47,720
Speaker 5: for a young quarterback in Drake May. You hope the

1500
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:50,040
Speaker 5: offensive line is night and day different than it was

1501
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:52,160
Speaker 5: last year. Was the lowest graded offensive line that we

1502
01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:54,960
Speaker 5: had at PFF in twenty twenty four, you're hoping that

1503
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:57,000
Speaker 5: the wide receiver room looks a lot better. I do

1504
01:09:57,040 --> 01:10:00,000
Speaker 5: think the defense is going to be much much better

1505
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,040
Speaker 5: that are with their free agency additions and their draft

1506
01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 5: editions there in New England. And then certainly any Mike

1507
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:07,080
Speaker 5: Vabel team that we have seen coached over the last

1508
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Speaker 5: five or six years, you know that they played with

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01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 5: sort of his mentality and his style, and that's a

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01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:14,400
Speaker 5: successful one. So I think that both of those teams

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01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:17,479
Speaker 5: are going to be good or competitive, I should say,

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01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 5: But you know, when it comes to them taking the

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01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:21,920
Speaker 5: crown from the Bills, I don't quite see that.

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01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:24,280
Speaker 2: What do you make of Drake May if everything works

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01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:25,800
Speaker 2: out for him around him?

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Speaker 6: I love Drake May.

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Speaker 5: Drake May was my QB two behind Caleb Williams in

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01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:33,759
Speaker 5: the class two years ago. I think he's supremely talented.

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01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:36,320
Speaker 5: In his two years that he started with North Carolina,

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01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:38,120
Speaker 5: he had elite passing grades. He had some of the

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01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:40,559
Speaker 5: most big time throws in all of college football. I

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01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 5: believe there was no quarterback who had more big time

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01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:46,639
Speaker 5: throws in that two year sample size of what May

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01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:48,519
Speaker 5: was when he was such a true sophomore and a

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01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:51,160
Speaker 5: true junior, and so he's a younger prospect. He's a

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01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:53,559
Speaker 5: gunslinger type of a player. You knew that probably his

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01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 5: first year as a starter, whenever that was going to come,

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01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:58,639
Speaker 5: whether it was a rookie or his sophomore year, whatever,

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01:10:58,640 --> 01:10:59,360
Speaker 5: that looked.

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01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 6: Like it was going to come. With his ups and downs,

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01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:01,840
Speaker 6: and it definitely has.

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01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:04,040
Speaker 5: But I think that a positive for Drake may is

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01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 5: that he showcased a lot of athleticism. You guys see

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01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 5: there on the screen what he was as a rusher.

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01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 5: He had an above eighty rushing grade last season as

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01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:13,559
Speaker 5: a quarterback, and I think that when things weren't working

1537
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:15,880
Speaker 5: well for him, when the protection wasn't holding up, when

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01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:18,080
Speaker 5: he didn't have the wide receivers to throw to, he

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01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:19,560
Speaker 5: was able to take off and he was able to

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01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:21,160
Speaker 5: show you he's got a little bit scoot to him too.

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01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:23,759
Speaker 5: He's a good enough athlete to keep the defenses honest.

1542
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:25,680
Speaker 5: Anytime you play man coverage and you got your back

1543
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 5: to the quarterback, he can sometimes make you pay because

1544
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:30,959
Speaker 5: of that. So I think he's a very high ceiling

1545
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:34,360
Speaker 5: type of a quarterback, absolutely a franchise caliber guy. And

1546
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:36,719
Speaker 5: now we've got a much much better and more stable

1547
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:39,360
Speaker 5: situation for him to work around. And so again, maybe

1548
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:41,519
Speaker 5: it's not playoffs for them this year, but I think

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01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:43,360
Speaker 5: the playoffs are coming at some point.

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01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:44,840
Speaker 6: With Drake may in New England.

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Speaker 1: Pro football focused NFL draft analysts, also co host of

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01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:51,640
Speaker 1: the NFL Stock Exchange podcast, Trevor Sikhma, thanks for joining us, man,

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01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:52,719
Speaker 1: really appreciate your time.

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01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:55,479
Speaker 6: Thanks guys. Anytime we're gonna take a break.

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live presented by Colida Hell, Steep task along

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01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:00,240
Speaker 1: with Carl Jones. We're here till three o'clock. We'll you

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01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:02,880
Speaker 1: after the break, we're gonna go back to your feedback

1558
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:05,519
Speaker 1: on the tweets sheet about what you think the Bills

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01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:08,240
Speaker 1: need to add to their offense or defense to make

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01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 1: it tough on their opponents. We'll be right back. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to One Bill's Lives. Thanks to Trevor Sikama for

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01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:34,519
Speaker 1: coming on the show last segment talking about old things

1563
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:38,960
Speaker 1: Buffalo and ranking offensive coordinators, giving us a sneak peek

1564
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:41,559
Speaker 1: into what the thoughts are about the Bills roster headed

1565
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:45,360
Speaker 1: in a training camp. Carl Jones along with Steve Tasker. Here,

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01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:47,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're getting back to the tweets you we've

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01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 1: asked our listeners what wrinkle on offense or defense would

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01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:54,800
Speaker 1: they add to change things. We got most of it,

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01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:58,920
Speaker 1: I think a little surprisingly at least, has been about

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01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:01,840
Speaker 1: the offense. They want to tweak the offense that was

1571
01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:05,720
Speaker 1: really elite last year. But I think that's the fun

1572
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:09,200
Speaker 1: part anyway. Right, you can't tell what a defense will do,

1573
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:12,479
Speaker 1: but tweaking the offense is easy. We also got this

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01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:17,000
Speaker 1: too from Jacob. His idea is defensive. He says, stop

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01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:19,559
Speaker 1: the tush push. Make it more varied. Oh, he says,

1576
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:22,479
Speaker 1: stop it, don't run it anymore, make it more varied.

1577
01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:25,160
Speaker 1: For one yard, use twelve Persconnel, have Josh under center

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01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:26,960
Speaker 1: with a thread of a sneak, attack the D line

1579
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:29,400
Speaker 1: with Cook where their weakest throw if they're giving it

1580
01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:30,960
Speaker 1: to you, and send a wide receiver in motion with

1581
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:33,439
Speaker 1: the threat of a jet suite. Keep them off balance.

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01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 1: On defense. So he didn't like the Bills using the

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01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:39,600
Speaker 1: tush push teased to be soured on us after the

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01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:42,599
Speaker 1: way it ended last year on third down in Kansas City.

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01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:47,680
Speaker 1: And then on another one from Joe, he says, a

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01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:51,479
Speaker 1: way to get Williams and Andresen on the field more.

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01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:53,280
Speaker 1: I'd like to see a little more four to three

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01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:57,760
Speaker 1: on offense for to three defensive alignment. On offense, we

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01:13:57,840 --> 01:13:59,880
Speaker 1: have multiple guys that can pull, so I'd like to

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01:13:59,880 --> 01:14:02,439
Speaker 1: see a few more power sweeps with either Josh or

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01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:06,080
Speaker 1: a running back. Yeah, I get it. I'm I'm not.

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01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:09,880
Speaker 1: I'm not so sure. I want Josh with the ball

1593
01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:12,120
Speaker 1: tucked under his arm running around the end. I mean,

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01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:14,160
Speaker 1: I know he's good at it, It's effective, and it

1595
01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:18,720
Speaker 1: has its place. Enough is enough, you know, enough is plenty. Uh,

1596
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:23,320
Speaker 1: don't go to it once too often? And dreesen on

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01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:25,920
Speaker 1: the field more. Yeah, okay. All he has to do

1598
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:28,240
Speaker 1: is play better in training camp. If he if he

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01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:30,559
Speaker 1: plays better at linebacker, he'll get on the field more.

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01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:33,840
Speaker 1: We'll see. I'm and I don't know the four to

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01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:38,840
Speaker 1: three on on on defense, I don't know. Why would

1602
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:40,320
Speaker 1: you like to see a little bit more four three?

1603
01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:43,520
Speaker 1: They run a four to three now. The third linebacker

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01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:46,240
Speaker 1: is Tarren Johnson. There Nickel a lot. If you want

1605
01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:49,400
Speaker 1: to put three linebackers on the field, I'll listen to that.

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01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:52,439
Speaker 1: I like to hear your reasoning for it. But I

1607
01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:52,880
Speaker 1: get it.

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01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:55,519
Speaker 2: There are very few teams in a National Football League

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01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:58,880
Speaker 2: where I would prefer to see Dorian Williams or Joyandreesen,

1610
01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:00,840
Speaker 2: whoever death third linebacker you want to be as opposed

1611
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:03,800
Speaker 2: to Arren Johnson like the Baltimore Ravens. If you want

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01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:05,479
Speaker 2: to make that argument that you would much rather have

1613
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:08,840
Speaker 2: a third linebacker up against Patrickworkard or whoever that fullback is,

1614
01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:12,240
Speaker 2: I will hear that argument. But there aren't many teams

1615
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:14,360
Speaker 2: where you're that scared of how they run the rock

1616
01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:16,599
Speaker 2: to where you want to take Aron Johnson off the field.

1617
01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:17,640
Speaker 3: So I hear you.

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01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:20,400
Speaker 2: But they play a four to three, it's Terren and

1619
01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:23,599
Speaker 2: he's a darn good run stuffing nickel as it is.

1620
01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:27,240
Speaker 2: So I think that's the pushback.

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01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:27,760
Speaker 3: That I always have.

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01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:30,640
Speaker 2: I don't think he should play one hundred percent of

1623
01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:32,640
Speaker 2: the snaps against a team like the Baltimore Ravens. I

1624
01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:34,280
Speaker 2: think that is at its frame that's not gonna do something.

1625
01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:35,600
Speaker 2: And they don'tut him out there one hundred percent of

1626
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:39,200
Speaker 2: the time against those teams anyways. But it sounds good.

1627
01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:41,160
Speaker 2: But Terreon Johnson hosts his weight in those matchups.

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01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:42,800
Speaker 1: And we've had you know, we have Greg Cosello on

1629
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:45,559
Speaker 1: our show regularly as well, and he'll be back this season.

1630
01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:48,240
Speaker 1: And it's always been his take, and he watches a

1631
01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:52,040
Speaker 1: ton of film and his thing is the reason the

1632
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:55,559
Speaker 1: Bills run Nickel as their base defense is Arren Johnson

1633
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:59,280
Speaker 1: because of his ability to compete in the box when

1634
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:03,519
Speaker 1: in the run game. And that's so I get it.

1635
01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 1: You can put you could put edit Uliufocio on there,

1636
01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:13,439
Speaker 1: or Dorian Williams along with Benford and or Bernard and

1637
01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:17,559
Speaker 1: uh Milano. Okay, but you know, if they throw it,

1638
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:20,320
Speaker 1: you'd rather have tearin on the field. And most teams

1639
01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:23,679
Speaker 1: throw it a ton, So I get it. I'll listen

1640
01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:26,360
Speaker 1: to it. Though in certain situations. Sure, there's always when

1641
01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:27,880
Speaker 1: they're when you know they're going to run the ball,

1642
01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:30,120
Speaker 1: or when they're in predictable man, put big bodies out

1643
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:33,280
Speaker 1: there who can run. So I'm all about it. From

1644
01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:36,519
Speaker 1: Carmelo on the tweet sheet, he says, trick plays. I

1645
01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:39,960
Speaker 1: haven't seen any gadget slash trick plays since day Bowl

1646
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:44,160
Speaker 1: left very vanilla offense successful, Yeah, but adding another weapon

1647
01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:48,760
Speaker 1: to keep defenses guessing, Yeah, why not? If you want

1648
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:50,760
Speaker 1: to do it, have some fun, right, I mean that's

1649
01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:52,559
Speaker 1: your if that's your wrinkles, just to put more fun

1650
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:55,559
Speaker 1: in the game. And I get it, I get it.

1651
01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:59,080
Speaker 2: I mean, my man Carmelo, he knows the offense is

1652
01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:01,519
Speaker 2: the league. He's just nickpicked right here. He's trying to

1653
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:04,040
Speaker 2: on top of being elite, wants to be a little

1654
01:17:04,040 --> 01:17:05,760
Speaker 2: bit more fun inspac and so I.

1655
01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:08,639
Speaker 3: Get all of that. That's fair.

1656
01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 2: I just want to say that takes practice time, and

1657
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:13,440
Speaker 2: that takes time away from what makes them so successful

1658
01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:15,400
Speaker 2: as it is. So if you want to put more

1659
01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:17,800
Speaker 2: time on a flee flicker, well that maybe takes time

1660
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:20,960
Speaker 2: away from emphasis and execution on a traditional zone play

1661
01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:22,240
Speaker 2: that they're trying to run against.

1662
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:22,479
Speaker 3: A certain look.

1663
01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:26,000
Speaker 2: So wherevery practice time is limited in twenty twenty five,

1664
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:28,080
Speaker 2: So if you want to implement something you're taking away

1665
01:17:28,120 --> 01:17:28,800
Speaker 2: from somewhere.

1666
01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:30,960
Speaker 1: Else, Yeah, I mean they can do it. And certainly,

1667
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:34,639
Speaker 1: if you're gonna put a guy out there, you need

1668
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:37,439
Speaker 1: to run trick plays out of something the defense is

1669
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:40,080
Speaker 1: used to seeing on the field. You can't put like

1670
01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:44,479
Speaker 1: ten offensive linemen on the field and not think they're

1671
01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:47,360
Speaker 1: going to expect a trick play, right, So you got

1672
01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:50,519
Speaker 1: to run it out of a personnel formation that the

1673
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:55,120
Speaker 1: defense is used to seeing on films. That's when you

1674
01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:58,559
Speaker 1: catch them not expecting it. When you put three running

1675
01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:02,320
Speaker 1: backs on the field and three tight ends. Yeah, you

1676
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:05,759
Speaker 1: got a p you're tipping them off. So I'm okay

1677
01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 1: with that. It's always fun, and hey, when it works,

1678
01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:14,160
Speaker 1: you're a genius. But when it doesn't, it's just as

1679
01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:14,559
Speaker 1: bad the.

1680
01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:17,640
Speaker 2: Other directions, as Detroy Ben Johnson was a genius when

1681
01:18:17,680 --> 01:18:19,640
Speaker 2: those trick players worked for the first sixteen weeks, and

1682
01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:22,080
Speaker 2: then it didn't work in the playoffs and everyone's like, oh,

1683
01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:22,559
Speaker 2: he's terrible.

1684
01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:24,840
Speaker 3: That's right, give and take from Lauren.

1685
01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:27,640
Speaker 1: She says the athleticism of the Bill's top three linebackers,

1686
01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:30,160
Speaker 1: and I hope to see more base defense, especially against

1687
01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:32,639
Speaker 1: three tight end sets. Also introducing a five to two

1688
01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:35,320
Speaker 1: front as a way to mix things up and force

1689
01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 1: linemen to be one on one. Yeah. Now, this is

1690
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:42,200
Speaker 1: the other side of the coin. We had talked earlier

1691
01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:44,920
Speaker 1: in the show about how fun it would be to see,

1692
01:18:45,479 --> 01:18:47,880
Speaker 1: you know, two running backs on the field, or using

1693
01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:50,320
Speaker 1: Reggie Gilliam the full back a little bit more, putting

1694
01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:52,519
Speaker 1: three tight ends or two tight ends on the field,

1695
01:18:52,920 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 1: just mixing it up with the personnel combinations. I'm a

1696
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:57,600
Speaker 1: big fan of that, particularly in the everybody eats mentality,

1697
01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:00,960
Speaker 1: because the more guys there are to eat and they're

1698
01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:03,800
Speaker 1: you know, the harder it is to defend. But she's

1699
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:06,599
Speaker 1: doing it with the defense. Now let's put And of course,

1700
01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:08,559
Speaker 1: if they're gonna put three tight ends on the field

1701
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:11,280
Speaker 1: and the Bills see it, they will they will sub

1702
01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:14,720
Speaker 1: out some guys. They don't leave base on the field,

1703
01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:17,200
Speaker 1: particularly if they have a plan or they've seen it

1704
01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:18,800
Speaker 1: on film and they say, listen, we're gonna get some

1705
01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:21,200
Speaker 1: big bodies in there. So when the as soon as

1706
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:24,599
Speaker 1: the team gets predictable where they're gonna run the football

1707
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:27,280
Speaker 1: or send some bodies out there to move some people

1708
01:19:27,320 --> 01:19:30,240
Speaker 1: out of the way, they'll respond with three linebackers or

1709
01:19:30,280 --> 01:19:34,040
Speaker 1: five d linemen of what have you. So don't think

1710
01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:36,560
Speaker 1: they don't do that anyway.

1711
01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:39,240
Speaker 2: It's just doesn't happen as often in the modern NFL.

1712
01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:40,840
Speaker 2: So that's why you don't think they don't do it.

1713
01:19:41,240 --> 01:19:44,240
Speaker 2: Outside of the Detroit Lions last year at the Baltimore Ravens,

1714
01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:46,320
Speaker 2: I don't know how many teams on their schedule where

1715
01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:48,479
Speaker 2: when they're playing the Kansas City Chiefs, I don't want

1716
01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:49,680
Speaker 2: to put three linebackers out there.

1717
01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:50,880
Speaker 3: I want Aaron Johnson out there.

1718
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 2: So that's the only pushback is like, hey, it's also

1719
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:58,400
Speaker 2: dictatord of who the offense is, and yeah, put three

1720
01:19:58,439 --> 01:20:01,040
Speaker 2: linebackers out there against Joe Burrown's this kind of.

1721
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:05,120
Speaker 1: This kind of fits into where we're at because every

1722
01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:07,760
Speaker 1: other team is a little bit like the Bills. They're

1723
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:12,320
Speaker 1: not running trick plays and every series you know, and

1724
01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:15,479
Speaker 1: they're not running three tight ends out there. So to

1725
01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:18,000
Speaker 1: respond to that or to expect the Bills are to

1726
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:20,840
Speaker 1: do something different or outside of that, you know, it's

1727
01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:23,360
Speaker 1: just not where you win the most football games, I

1728
01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:27,639
Speaker 1: have your most success. So you're not running trick plays

1729
01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:32,240
Speaker 1: out of trick personnel groupings, and you're not spending your

1730
01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:36,040
Speaker 1: life with six offensive linemen on the field all the time.

1731
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:38,960
Speaker 1: They might do it some if you do it twenty

1732
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:42,400
Speaker 1: times in the season. The old adage is you do

1733
01:20:42,439 --> 01:20:43,960
Speaker 1: it twenty times in a season where you put the

1734
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:46,240
Speaker 1: offensive lineman out there. Say the Bills did it, ran

1735
01:20:46,360 --> 01:20:51,360
Speaker 1: fifty plays with Alec Anderson on the field. Thirty five

1736
01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:54,519
Speaker 1: of them are going to be in two games because

1737
01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:57,360
Speaker 1: of the matchups, you know what I mean. So you're

1738
01:20:57,360 --> 01:20:59,720
Speaker 1: going to see it a lot against that team and

1739
01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:02,519
Speaker 1: that team, but not against this other all these other teams.

1740
01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:05,040
Speaker 1: That's the way the matchup system works in the NFL,

1741
01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:08,080
Speaker 1: and you can bet that it's still pretty much accurate

1742
01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:09,000
Speaker 1: to expect that.

1743
01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:11,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then also Lauren talked about the five to

1744
01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:13,599
Speaker 2: two front and maybe wanted to introduce that a little

1745
01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:16,320
Speaker 2: bit more. I understand that, and there's some some value

1746
01:21:16,360 --> 01:21:18,680
Speaker 2: in that. But how the Bills like to play their

1747
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:20,599
Speaker 2: defensive lineman, they like to just get up field. They're

1748
01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:22,519
Speaker 2: not a bunch of two gappers. So when you say

1749
01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:25,400
Speaker 2: you want the offensive and defensive lineman just go one

1750
01:21:25,439 --> 01:21:27,880
Speaker 2: on one, that's not necessarily how they play. They just

1751
01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:29,519
Speaker 2: want to get upfield. They just want to cause having

1752
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:31,200
Speaker 2: and get in the backfield as quickly as possible. So

1753
01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:33,920
Speaker 2: that's their philosophy they lean into, just like hey, put

1754
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:36,840
Speaker 2: your head down and just go. But maybe they pivot

1755
01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:38,639
Speaker 2: this year, I don't know, but in the past they

1756
01:21:38,680 --> 01:21:40,200
Speaker 2: just want their guys to pin their ears back and go.

1757
01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:42,839
Speaker 1: From Uless on the tweets, she says front on offense,

1758
01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:46,000
Speaker 1: I think more under center play action, much more targeting

1759
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:47,880
Speaker 1: in the middle of the field with the wide receivers.

1760
01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:50,840
Speaker 1: On defense, more of a rotation at nickel corner and

1761
01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:56,320
Speaker 1: weak side linebacker. TJ and Milano are great. Taron Johnson

1762
01:21:56,360 --> 01:21:58,479
Speaker 1: and Milana are great, but they seem to wear down

1763
01:21:58,520 --> 01:22:01,920
Speaker 1: in past coverage in the second half of games. Now

1764
01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:05,240
Speaker 1: I'll listen to that. I mean, I yeah, if you

1765
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:09,160
Speaker 1: can find a way to rotate in and give keep

1766
01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:13,960
Speaker 1: guys fresh and stay at the same level of performance, sure,

1767
01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:20,960
Speaker 1: absolutely it. It's a real asset to your culture and

1768
01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:24,639
Speaker 1: your locker room vibe when more guys get a chance

1769
01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:27,160
Speaker 1: to be on the field and contribute. I mean, I

1770
01:22:27,160 --> 01:22:29,160
Speaker 1: don't know if you're like this, but when I was playing,

1771
01:22:29,320 --> 01:22:31,120
Speaker 1: I loved a chance to get out and actually take

1772
01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:33,360
Speaker 1: a couple of offensive snaps. It was fun because I

1773
01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:35,040
Speaker 1: you know, you stand over there and watch, and then

1774
01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:37,080
Speaker 1: when the punt team goes, you go, and then you're off.

1775
01:22:37,720 --> 01:22:40,439
Speaker 1: But to get a chance to help more often, that's

1776
01:22:40,479 --> 01:22:44,759
Speaker 1: what players want. People always ask me. In my career,

1777
01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:47,200
Speaker 1: you know, I covered kicks, covered kicks, return kicks, I

1778
01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:49,400
Speaker 1: did all the special team stuff. And then later on

1779
01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:51,680
Speaker 1: or at spots in my career, for a stretch of

1780
01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:54,400
Speaker 1: the season, I would be on the field playing wide receiver.

1781
01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:56,720
Speaker 1: In one year, I was actually playing wide out a

1782
01:22:56,760 --> 01:23:00,800
Speaker 1: lot and didn't play any special teams and people ask me,

1783
01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:03,200
Speaker 1: do you like what? What's it like? I said, I

1784
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:05,479
Speaker 1: liked wide receiver, but only because I was on the

1785
01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:07,880
Speaker 1: field more. You got a chance to play, you got

1786
01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:10,879
Speaker 1: a chance to help more, right. I mean I wouldn't

1787
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:13,559
Speaker 1: care one way or the other, but it's more fun

1788
01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:17,080
Speaker 1: to be on the field, you know. So I think

1789
01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:20,280
Speaker 1: that's you know, if you can do that and rotate

1790
01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:23,560
Speaker 1: guys in for Milano and you know, Tarren Johnson or

1791
01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:25,960
Speaker 1: whoever it is, like the defensive lineman, all those d

1792
01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:28,240
Speaker 1: linemen got to be really engaged because they're gonna get

1793
01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:31,160
Speaker 1: a chance to go in a minute. Right. That keeps

1794
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:36,120
Speaker 1: your locker room engaged, keeps your sidelines engaged, keeps everybody

1795
01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:39,479
Speaker 1: focused because they stay ready. They don't go over and

1796
01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:42,479
Speaker 1: sit down, put a jacket on and you know, drink

1797
01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:45,240
Speaker 1: some chicken broth. You know, in a cold day, right,

1798
01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:47,799
Speaker 1: they're out there up on their feet with their helmet on, watching.

1799
01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:50,400
Speaker 1: There is something in that.

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01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:53,759
Speaker 2: The Bills also have good depth, at least that linebacker

1801
01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:55,839
Speaker 2: with Dorian Williams. I think he can be a serviceable

1802
01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:57,719
Speaker 2: backer when he's out there. And then also Cam Lewis,

1803
01:23:57,720 --> 01:23:59,720
Speaker 2: we've seen them when he's out there in spot.

1804
01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:00,240
Speaker 3: Duty at well.

1805
01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 2: He can hold his own as well, So I think

1806
01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:03,760
Speaker 2: there's some value to that. You just have to make

1807
01:24:03,760 --> 01:24:06,280
Speaker 2: sure you get to a point where there is gonna

1808
01:24:06,280 --> 01:24:08,040
Speaker 2: be a drop off because both are all pros at

1809
01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:10,120
Speaker 2: their best. You just hope it's not to a point

1810
01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:12,360
Speaker 2: where you're hurting the other nine players out there when

1811
01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:14,040
Speaker 2: you put in a Cam Lewis, or you put in

1812
01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:16,400
Speaker 2: a Dorian Williams. Well, maybe even a Jordan Hancock if

1813
01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:18,599
Speaker 2: he takes reps at nickel this year. So I hear you,

1814
01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:21,880
Speaker 2: and especially in December and beyond, where they want their

1815
01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:23,640
Speaker 2: guys as fresh as possible. I'm sure they'll figure out

1816
01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:24,680
Speaker 2: ways to manage that.

1817
01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:27,000
Speaker 1: Or one last one before we take a break from Jimmy,

1818
01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:29,639
Speaker 1: he says feature Ken Kaid as the true number one

1819
01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:33,120
Speaker 1: receiving option eight to ten targets a game minimum. And

1820
01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:37,200
Speaker 1: I'll say this too that it sounds like a lot

1821
01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:39,400
Speaker 1: like what Kansas City does with Kelsey. I mean, he's

1822
01:24:39,439 --> 01:24:41,240
Speaker 1: there the focal point, or at least he was up

1823
01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:43,280
Speaker 1: until last year where he kind of had a down

1824
01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:45,160
Speaker 1: year in the regular season last year. But that's what

1825
01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:49,120
Speaker 1: people are kind of envisioning for Ken Kid. I'll say this,

1826
01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:53,000
Speaker 1: the first season kin Kaid comes in, they drafted him,

1827
01:24:53,000 --> 01:24:55,639
Speaker 1: he shows up at training camp and we heard about

1828
01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:58,160
Speaker 1: him and he is listen, he is a good player.

1829
01:24:58,160 --> 01:24:58,479
Speaker 3: He is.

1830
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:01,800
Speaker 1: I've been really impressed with him now. He was nicked

1831
01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:03,920
Speaker 1: up last year and he was struggling to play well

1832
01:25:04,120 --> 01:25:06,160
Speaker 1: and it just it's hard to play good when you

1833
01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:09,559
Speaker 1: don't feel good. But when he came into his first,

1834
01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:15,000
Speaker 1: very first training camp of as a pro, I would

1835
01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:19,160
Speaker 1: say that I would expect I would have expected a

1836
01:25:19,200 --> 01:25:22,280
Speaker 1: guy like Travis kelce to look exactly like Kincaid was

1837
01:25:22,320 --> 01:25:24,679
Speaker 1: looking to me, I never saw I don't watch Travis

1838
01:25:24,760 --> 01:25:27,720
Speaker 1: Kelcey practice or anything, but I would expect a guy

1839
01:25:27,720 --> 01:25:30,920
Speaker 1: of Travis Kelsey's to look like Kincaid look his very

1840
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:34,000
Speaker 1: first training camp. So I was like really high on him,

1841
01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:37,800
Speaker 1: and I still think that's in his tank. The guy

1842
01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:41,160
Speaker 1: gets open. He's a great route runner, got great hands,

1843
01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:45,240
Speaker 1: and I think that his ceiling has He's not even

1844
01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:49,280
Speaker 1: near it yet. And I think with more opportunity, obviously

1845
01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:52,080
Speaker 1: he's going to show up. But last year I think

1846
01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:54,360
Speaker 1: he got a kind of like, uh, it's a tough year.

1847
01:25:54,960 --> 01:25:56,840
Speaker 1: Not And I don't think it was all his fault

1848
01:25:56,880 --> 01:25:58,280
Speaker 1: or the fact that he's not a good player.

1849
01:25:58,360 --> 01:26:00,240
Speaker 2: His movement skills are really impressive for some on his

1850
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:02,760
Speaker 2: Scott Say size, and I think that if he can

1851
01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:05,840
Speaker 2: continue to get stronger, stay healthier, improve as a blocker

1852
01:26:05,880 --> 01:26:07,679
Speaker 2: so he's on the field more often, I think that'll

1853
01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:09,200
Speaker 2: help the Bills offense a lot this year.

1854
01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:11,519
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker, Carl Jones, we're here. We're gonna take a

1855
01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:13,599
Speaker 1: break and come back and wrap things up here on

1856
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:16,080
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live. You're listening to Buffalo Bills Radio presented

1857
01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:32,160
Speaker 1: by Colida Health. Will be right back walking back in

1858
01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:34,880
Speaker 1: One Bill's Lives. We've wrapped things up, Carl Jones, Steve

1859
01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:38,280
Speaker 1: Tasker here, we've been talking about the wrinkles that you

1860
01:26:38,439 --> 01:26:42,200
Speaker 1: fans or anybody would like to see the Bills implement

1861
01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:45,400
Speaker 1: on offense or defense. Got a ton of responses, some

1862
01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:49,280
Speaker 1: of the later ones, you know, like the one here

1863
01:26:49,320 --> 01:26:52,120
Speaker 1: that just came in from Corey Bartlett. He says, use

1864
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:55,640
Speaker 1: Harriston Maxwell Harrison as a receiver, just let him, you know,

1865
01:26:56,640 --> 01:26:59,360
Speaker 1: go use the speed. And I get it. This is

1866
01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:01,760
Speaker 1: a team that's you know, I think they still got

1867
01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:05,920
Speaker 1: scar tissue from you know, playing against guys like you

1868
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:10,080
Speaker 1: know Tyreek and Rashid Rice and those guys at Kansas

1869
01:27:10,120 --> 01:27:12,000
Speaker 1: City and Miami and some of the other players around

1870
01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:14,439
Speaker 1: the league. The Bills want one of the Bills fans

1871
01:27:14,439 --> 01:27:15,680
Speaker 1: would love to have a guy like that, and they

1872
01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:18,160
Speaker 1: got a guy that's fast, don't throw on the ball,

1873
01:27:18,280 --> 01:27:20,559
Speaker 1: just send him, you know. I get some of that

1874
01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:25,240
Speaker 1: rationale and there. It's a little different these days because

1875
01:27:25,640 --> 01:27:29,439
Speaker 1: the game is so specialized and you really need to

1876
01:27:29,479 --> 01:27:31,840
Speaker 1: have a depth of knowledge about what's going on out there.

1877
01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:33,519
Speaker 1: You can't just go out and say, hey, line up

1878
01:27:33,600 --> 01:27:35,760
Speaker 1: right there and go. You know, those days are kind

1879
01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:41,960
Speaker 1: of gone, I think, but the athleticism is universal language.

1880
01:27:42,200 --> 01:27:44,280
Speaker 2: I would hope that they get him well versed on

1881
01:27:44,280 --> 01:27:46,320
Speaker 2: the defensive side of the ball first before they throw

1882
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:49,439
Speaker 2: anything else on his plate. I would hate for if

1883
01:27:49,479 --> 01:27:51,519
Speaker 2: I see Max Harrison run a go route in week

1884
01:27:51,560 --> 01:27:54,360
Speaker 2: eight or whatever, and he's just clearing out the defense

1885
01:27:54,439 --> 01:27:55,880
Speaker 2: and then on the other side of the ball there's

1886
01:27:55,920 --> 01:27:58,639
Speaker 2: a miscommunication and he's the coverage bus for a touchdown

1887
01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:00,439
Speaker 2: on the other end. Right, So I would hope that

1888
01:28:00,720 --> 01:28:03,759
Speaker 2: let's focus on him being a productive cornerback first before

1889
01:28:03,880 --> 01:28:06,160
Speaker 2: we get all fancy and put him at of receiver.

1890
01:28:06,400 --> 01:28:09,400
Speaker 1: Last one he goes Jackson Hawes. This is from James Denton.

1891
01:28:09,439 --> 01:28:12,280
Speaker 1: He believes Jackson Hawes, the tight end that the Bills drafted,

1892
01:28:12,600 --> 01:28:16,479
Speaker 1: will sub with the sixth offensive lineman and that it's

1893
01:28:16,479 --> 01:28:21,639
Speaker 1: about ten percent of the plays and that'll allow them

1894
01:28:21,720 --> 01:28:24,320
Speaker 1: to throw the football more out of Instead of having

1895
01:28:24,360 --> 01:28:27,559
Speaker 1: a sixth offensive lineman Alec Anderson coming in, they'd put

1896
01:28:27,640 --> 01:28:30,280
Speaker 1: Jackson Hawes in there because he's built like an offensive

1897
01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:33,800
Speaker 1: lineman and makes you a little bit more unpredictable. I'm

1898
01:28:33,800 --> 01:28:34,320
Speaker 1: alright with that.

1899
01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:36,240
Speaker 2: I like that a lot actually, and I know that

1900
01:28:36,439 --> 01:28:38,439
Speaker 2: the sixth offensive lineman thing they did last year was

1901
01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:40,280
Speaker 2: super productive and it was very efficient.

1902
01:28:40,479 --> 01:28:42,719
Speaker 3: Whenever they did it, they very rarely failed.

1903
01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:44,920
Speaker 2: But when you bring in a guy like a Jackson Hawes,

1904
01:28:44,920 --> 01:28:47,519
Speaker 2: who you may not expect him to be a high

1905
01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:50,080
Speaker 2: target or high value got down the field, it at

1906
01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:53,360
Speaker 2: least gives off the illusion. Whereas the defensive line, when

1907
01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:55,240
Speaker 2: you're on defense and you see a six offensive lineman

1908
01:28:55,280 --> 01:28:57,639
Speaker 2: out there, you know, for the most part he's not eligible.

1909
01:28:57,760 --> 01:28:59,800
Speaker 2: At least with Hawes out there, you have the idea

1910
01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:01,200
Speaker 2: go down the field.

1911
01:29:01,080 --> 01:29:04,320
Speaker 1: Right and don't throw it to him until you really

1912
01:29:04,360 --> 01:29:06,719
Speaker 1: need to until he's open, until he's you know, until

1913
01:29:06,960 --> 01:29:10,759
Speaker 1: it's you know, he's gonna be open, and sometimes that happens.

1914
01:29:10,760 --> 01:29:15,120
Speaker 1: I get it. Carl, good stuff today. Appreciate you, Trevor Sikima,

1915
01:29:15,120 --> 01:29:17,639
Speaker 1: thanks for coming on tomorrow on the show. Justin Mellow

1916
01:29:17,640 --> 01:29:20,000
Speaker 1: from the Draft Network is gonna come by. He's gonna

1917
01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:23,200
Speaker 1: spend some time with with us on One Bill's Live

1918
01:29:24,040 --> 01:29:27,040
Speaker 1: as we wrap up this Wednesday, beautiful day out, Jim

1919
01:29:27,120 --> 01:29:30,040
Speaker 1: Kelly Camp going on strong here at the stadium, and

1920
01:29:32,080 --> 01:29:34,880
Speaker 1: just lots of stuff going on. Any what's your wrinkle

1921
01:29:34,960 --> 01:29:36,599
Speaker 1: if there is one now in the last few minutes

1922
01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:37,960
Speaker 1: of the show, give us your wrinkle. What do you

1923
01:29:37,960 --> 01:29:39,559
Speaker 1: think the Bills need to change? If anything?

1924
01:29:39,600 --> 01:29:42,920
Speaker 2: Defensively more man cover sprinkle than the offense. I would

1925
01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:45,160
Speaker 2: like to see if Josh Palmer can take a step

1926
01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:46,479
Speaker 2: be that man beater on offense.

1927
01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:48,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree with that. I would like to

1928
01:29:48,040 --> 01:29:51,679
Speaker 1: see him do more creative stuff on offense too. Maybe,

1929
01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:53,680
Speaker 1: I don't know, we'll see. Maybe the trick play thing.

1930
01:29:54,160 --> 01:29:56,280
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker, Carl Jones, we'll talk to you tomorrow. Take

1931
01:29:56,280 --> 01:29:57,519
Speaker 1: care of everybody. Thanks, we'll see it.

1932
01:29:57,560 --> 01:30:03,559
Speaker 4: One the Money