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Speaker 1: Fish Unfiltered, Episode eighty five. A lot to dive into

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Speaker 1: for this one. I'm Kevin braw your host, along with

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Speaker 1: my friend and colo Is, Isaac Hazoo, and Eli Sussman,

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Speaker 1: the founder of Fish On First. Towards the back half

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Speaker 1: of this episode, we have an interview with Miami Marlins

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Speaker 1: outfielder Victor Mason Junior. But before that, it took us

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Speaker 1: a while to record this one. But I think for

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Speaker 1: very good reasons. Every day that we went on and

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Speaker 1: we didn't want to, we figured, all right, let's just

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Speaker 1: start with cor Let's let's wait a day or something.

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Speaker 1: Peter Fairbank signs and then Dave Myers gets traded, so

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Speaker 1: it gave us quite a bit to talk about. Plus

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Speaker 1: Edward Cabre two suitors now out for him. So Isaac,

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Speaker 1: how we're doing. I think we waited just enough time

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Speaker 1: to record and have a pretty packed episode. So this

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Speaker 1: is gonna be pretty long episode for the most part.

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Speaker 1: We have a lot to share.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's hard to believe that it's now where

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Speaker 2: three weeks removed from the Winter meetings. It feels like

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Speaker 2: it was just last week. So I'm very much looking

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Speaker 2: forward to going into everything that's happened the last let's say,

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Speaker 2: fourteen to fifteen business days, and yeah, like you said,

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Speaker 2: well a lot to get into.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's let's get right into it. Dane Myers

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Speaker 1: was traded from this from the Miami Marlins to the

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati Reds in exchange for minor league prospect Ethan O'Donnell Meyers,

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Speaker 1: who was a Minor League Rule five pick from the

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Speaker 1: mar from the Lion from the Tigers, sorry goes to

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Speaker 1: the Marlins. He was a former pitcher turned into hit

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Speaker 1: her dominated double a dominated triple a gets called up

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three, gets a cup of coffee there,

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Speaker 1: but really doesn't get it. He makes it believe. He

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Speaker 1: didn't make the opening day roster in twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 1: but he got called up after Avi Garcia was designated

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Speaker 1: for assignment and Meyers played forty four games, looked really

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Speaker 1: good and fortunately got hurt, so we missed most of

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Speaker 1: really good, and then twenty twenty five unfortunately just didn't

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Speaker 1: go his way. In the first half of that season,

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Speaker 1: he had a seven to eleven ops. In that second

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Speaker 1: half it was four to thirty six, So just shows

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Speaker 1: you the struggles that he went through and also got

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Speaker 1: hurt towards the end of that season. But with so

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Speaker 1: much outfield depth, the Marlins move Meyers sus Cincinnati four

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Speaker 1: for Ethan o'donald. Is Is it just I don't think

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Speaker 1: we saw this coming, to be fair, I thought, if

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Speaker 1: if anything there we don't know. I didn't. I didn't

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Speaker 1: see this type of a trade happening. He's been here

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Speaker 1: for a while. I think there were the other players

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Speaker 1: you could have moved beforehand, but they chose Myers. I

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Speaker 1: don't hate it, but yeah, definitely tough to see one

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Speaker 1: of I guess the quote unquote longer tenured guys go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, in terms of just value acquired, whether it's a

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Speaker 2: like in Dane Myers case, I think Miami couldn't have

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Speaker 2: asked for much more from someone like Dane Myers. Like

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Speaker 2: games totally? It was about four hundred and sixty nine

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Speaker 2: eight v's of solid production from the outfield spot, played

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Speaker 2: see him go. Great value that Miami did acquire when

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Speaker 3: Little bit of outfield depth.

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Speaker 2: They could use a little bit more right handed hitting death,

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Speaker 2: it made Dane a little bit expendable. And yeah, he's

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Speaker 2: coming up a very uneven year where he was arguably

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Speaker 2: of fruition, but they got their man in December.

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Speaker 1: You could have only wondered at the time what that

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Speaker 1: But I mean, I won't forget the Grand Slam in La.

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Speaker 1: what were your thoughts on the trade? Do you think

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Speaker 1: And then just talk a little bit about Ethan o'donnald.

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Speaker 1: He's a six round pick in twenty twenty three, I

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Speaker 1: They're hoping it could be some sort of bounced back candidate,

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Speaker 4: Mean, as you guys described it, like, his career was

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Speaker 4: again return Ethan O'Donnell. There's some mixed opinions on him

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Speaker 4: where I think Pipeline still had him as a number

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Speaker 4: just some question about his contact skills and whether that

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Speaker 4: he's a guy that if all things go well, maybe

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Speaker 5: He could play all.

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Speaker 4: Three outfield spots, and he played more center field than

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Speaker 4: any of the other positions last year. It's it's not

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Speaker 4: it's something it's realistically, I don't think it's It would

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Speaker 4: better as a big leaguer than Dane has been the

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Speaker 4: past three years. But somebody that they could work with,

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Speaker 4: somebody that's just twenty three years old turning twenty four

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I totally forgot about Alderman like that. This

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Speaker 3: When this happened, we went live right away.

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Speaker 4: ninety eight, ninety nine, and he does that, especially the

435
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Speaker 4: closest guy they had to that was Ronnie. And now

436
00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,359
Speaker 4: their interest in Fairbanks had been well documented almost since

437
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Speaker 4: the moment he became a free agent. I think it

438
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Speaker 4: is an interesting hypothetical to wonder if they would have

439
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Speaker 4: gotten a deal done if Ronnie was fine and actually

440
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Speaker 4: started the year healthy, because it's it seems more than

441
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Speaker 4: a coincidence that Ronnie undergoes his surgery just a few

442
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Speaker 4: days before the Marlins get their offer to a point

443
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Speaker 4: that Fairbanks is ready.

444
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Speaker 5: To accept it.

445
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Speaker 4: At the same time, I don't think people should be

446
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Speaker 4: too cynical about that. I think the reality is that

447
00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,280
Speaker 4: across the league. By the time the dust settles at

448
00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,199
Speaker 4: the end of next year, almost every team is going

449
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Speaker 4: to have a big name reliever who went down with

450
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Speaker 4: an injury, either before the year or very early in

451
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Speaker 4: the year. That's what happens. I think every team has

452
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Speaker 4: to prepare for something like that, even though you don't

453
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Speaker 4: want to assume it, so that aspect of it. I

454
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Speaker 4: don't want to harp too much on, but like you guys,

455
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Speaker 4: I am surprised as somebody that's been kind of pessimistic

456
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Speaker 4: about the team's capacity and eagerness to spend money, the

457
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Speaker 4: fact that they're willing to spend as much money as

458
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Speaker 4: they did on a reliever in particular, guy that even

459
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Speaker 4: if he's perfect, you know, the upside is a little

460
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Speaker 4: bit limited for you guys. That for the front offices

461
00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,679
Speaker 4: that try to operate their teams on a spreadsheet and

462
00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:00,879
Speaker 4: are always obsessed with value, relievers just don't give you

463
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,160
Speaker 4: a ton of bang for your buck because of how

464
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Speaker 4: little they're used all things considered. At the same time,

465
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Speaker 4: this was a very obvious area for the team to address,

466
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Speaker 4: and they got at this stage to the offseason. The

467
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Speaker 4: one who is the best available pitcher remaining, and prior

468
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Speaker 4: to that, the ones that they didn't sign were the

469
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Speaker 4: guys that got multiple years guaranteed. So that's another aspect

470
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Speaker 4: of it about why the Marlins were so insistent on

471
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Speaker 4: only signing guys to one year deals, But they're ultimately

472
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Speaker 4: they're able to get a guy on a one year

473
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Speaker 4: deal that is that has just a whole lot of

474
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Speaker 4: potential here, and in my opinion, I think they still

475
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Speaker 4: need to do a little bit more now that Ronnie

476
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Speaker 4: is down with something that will keep him out for

477
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Speaker 4: the entire season. The thing with Fairbanks is that he's

478
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Speaker 4: not particularly good against left handed hitting as a guy

479
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Speaker 4: that's mainly been a two pitch pitcher in his career,

480
00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:53,920
Speaker 4: fastball slider. So that was one area, one particular area

481
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Speaker 4: that we thought that they might address to this offseason,

482
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Speaker 4: specifically getting a lefty or somebody that you could definitely

483
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Speaker 4: trust against lefty batters. And Fairbanks isn't really that. He's

484
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 4: a guy that you just defer to his ninth ending

485
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,040
Speaker 4: experience where he'll give you good He could be competitive

486
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,720
Speaker 4: against any hitter, but I think this bullpen still could

487
00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:15,359
Speaker 4: use a really reliable and experienced lefty as well. And

488
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Speaker 4: there's some of those guys still out there in free

489
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Speaker 4: agency that would cost quite a bit less than Fairbanks did.

490
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Speaker 4: And yeah, I'll be it'll be easier to be excited

491
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Speaker 4: about this bullpen as a whole if they add a

492
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Speaker 4: little bit more on the left handed side.

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Speaker 1: That's one thing I wanted to mention that you brought

494
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Speaker 1: up the one year deal. It's a one year, thirteen

495
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Speaker 1: million dollar deal. Isaac, how much do you think that

496
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Speaker 1: kind of set the Marls apart? Because there's that aspect

497
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Speaker 1: of it where he got more than the club option

498
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Speaker 1: was declined for. But and then on top of that,

499
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Speaker 1: I also like it's worth noting like he's had some

500
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Speaker 1: sort of injury thing where when he pitches in the

501
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Speaker 1: cold or like outside, I think it's like some sort

502
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Speaker 1: of ring thing on his finger. So definitely pitching in

503
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Speaker 1: a dome certainly helps him. But Isaac, how much do

504
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Speaker 1: you think this kind of set them models apart in

505
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Speaker 1: terms of, you know, the money aspect of things, just

506
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Speaker 1: giving them a little bit more than that club option.

507
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Speaker 3: You know, I haven't dug into that yet.

508
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:10,399
Speaker 4: I do.

509
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Speaker 3: I plan on dugging in to see what.

510
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Speaker 2: Teams and how much did they offer aside from Miami,

511
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Speaker 2: because I don't know if maybe Miami just blew them

512
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Speaker 2: out of the water, which I find it hard to believe,

513
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Speaker 2: or I don't know if other teams just were worried

514
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Speaker 2: about the same thing that you just mentioned. So I'll

515
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 2: report on that when I get it, but I can't.

516
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Speaker 3: I find it hard.

517
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Speaker 2: Believe that no other team, including the Dodgers, including the

518
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Speaker 2: Blue Jays, weren't willing to offer the same thing. Maybe

519
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 2: it's the the fact that he overlapped with Peter Bennets

520
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 2: and Tampa Bay. Maybe that helped them set apart. Maybe

521
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 2: it's the warm weather, like you said.

522
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Speaker 3: I'm not exactly sure, but when I am, i'll get

523
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Speaker 3: back to you guys.

524
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Speaker 1: Alrighty, let's move on to Edward Cabrera. I feel like

525
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Speaker 1: this is a recurring topic on here, but it's only

526
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Speaker 1: right because it keeps coming up. Barry Jackson of the

527
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 1: Miami Harold reported that two suitors for Cabrera, the Baltimore

528
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Speaker 1: Orioles and Houston Astros, have dropped out and are no

529
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 1: longer interested in his services. The Astros acquired I think

530
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Speaker 1: it was like Burrows from the Pittsburgh Pirates and that

531
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Speaker 1: three team trade that sent Josh Lowe to the to

532
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:17,439
Speaker 1: the Pirates and the oh yeah, well that's wrong one

533
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 1: and uh, the Oriols acquired Shane Boas from the Rais

534
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Speaker 1: and in that crazy trade it was a four prospect

535
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Speaker 1: I think it was four prospects and the compensation pick

536
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Speaker 1: over to the Orioles in exchange into the raised in

537
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Speaker 1: exchange for Boz. So the only other team that has

538
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Speaker 1: been mentioned so far in this ISAACA is the the

539
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 1: San Francisco Giants that that's actually been reported out there,

540
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Speaker 1: that had had discussions with with the Marls. But does

541
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Speaker 1: the likeliness of him get getting moved lower just a bid?

542
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:52,399
Speaker 1: How much does that lower? How how much the chances

543
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Speaker 1: of him getting traded have lowered? Then? Maybe a couple

544
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Speaker 1: of days ago, when everyone thought Cabrero was one hundred percent.

545
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Speaker 2: Getting traded, I don't know if it was ever one

546
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,159
Speaker 2: hundred percent. I thought it was maybe slightly over fifty.

547
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Speaker 2: I think it maybe has lowered ever so slightly, but

548
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 2: not by much. You know, these teams are going to

549
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 2: say that they're no longer interested. It's just common negotiation

550
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,199
Speaker 2: work or a tactic, however you want to call it.

551
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Speaker 2: I do think now that there is slightly more of

552
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Speaker 2: a chance that he is on in spring training when

553
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Speaker 2: he reports it.

554
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Speaker 3: You know, you never know.

555
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 2: Trades do happen in spring. In February and March, we

556
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Speaker 2: have seen it happen, especially with his ball club. We

557
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,159
Speaker 2: were in Orlando during the winter meetings where there was

558
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,160
Speaker 2: a little bit of smoke around Cabrera. They were having

559
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 2: discussions with Baltimore, with Houston, Kobe Mayo was.

560
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:37,919
Speaker 3: A name that was brought up.

561
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Speaker 2: I can confirm that there's a couple of other outfield

562
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Speaker 2: prospects that the Baltimore Oriols do have still that interests

563
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 2: Miami significantly, So I wouldn't totally wipe them out as

564
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 2: a potential landing.

565
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 3: Spot for Cabrera.

566
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Speaker 2: But yeah, I think things are gonna be pretty quiet

567
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:57,160
Speaker 2: for the next fourteen to thirty days. Yeah, I would

568
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 2: say that it's just slightly less likely that he has dealt.

569
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 2: But I still think that if a team can make

570
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 2: another worsy training starts and that would change everything.

571
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Speaker 1: Eli, just your thoughts on the report and at this

572
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Speaker 1: point what sooners kind of stand out to you in

573
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 1: this Cabrera market because two of the astros is one

574
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Speaker 1: that I'm actually a little bit surprised was even brought up.

575
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Speaker 1: I didn't think they ever had the prospect capital to

576
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 1: trade for someone like Cabrera, so I always kind of

577
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 1: ruled them out. But I guess there were definitely talks

578
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 1: there according to Barry, but Baltimore definitely still seems like

579
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,640
Speaker 1: a really good option, especially with Kobe Mayo still out there.

580
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 1: The Giants have Bryce Eldridge, and they definitely have some

581
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 1: prospects that could be on the move. But I guess

582
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Speaker 1: the names that the usual, the Cubs, the Red Sox,

583
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Speaker 1: I guess the Yankees that are always in team you

584
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 1: have to keep an eye out for to make those

585
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 1: potential trades with the Marlins. But just at this point,

586
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Speaker 1: where do you see this market and do you think

587
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 1: he gets moved and what team could potentially end up

588
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Speaker 1: with Edward Cabrera in twenty.

589
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Speaker 4: Twenty six, I still lean towards him likely getting traded

590
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Speaker 4: at some point this offseason. There are plenty of teams

591
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Speaker 4: out there that could still use them because of the

592
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 4: wrinkle that he still under club control for three more years,

593
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 4: So it just opens up to a wide variety of teams,

594
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 4: not only ones that need to win right now, but

595
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Speaker 4: those that even feel that they are trending in a

596
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:15,880
Speaker 4: very good direction for your twenty twenty seven and could

597
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 4: still get multiple years out of him at a salary

598
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 4: that is much lower than any of the remaining free

599
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 4: agent starters.

600
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Speaker 5: For example, I had.

601
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Speaker 4: Been thinking that the negotiations around the Japanese starter Emi,

602
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 4: which still go on for another week or so, that

603
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 4: his posting window is coming to an end by then.

604
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 4: I always thought that this would wait until there's more

605
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,439
Speaker 4: clarity on that front. Once it's decided what team is

606
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 4: signing him, which will be a much longer commitment and

607
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 4: much bigger financially than Eddie, then that will take maybe

608
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 4: one more suitor out of possible consideration, but leave everybody

609
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 4: else in a spot where it just it adds more

610
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 4: urgency for teams that are looking to still add to

611
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Speaker 4: their rotation. You covered a couple of them. It does

612
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 4: feel like the Cubs are mostly set, but I wouldn't

613
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 4: be surprised. They had clear past interest in Eddie going

614
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 4: back to this past deadline, and when you have that

615
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 4: in their team, that is extremely motivated to be have

616
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 4: a much deeper rotation this year in twenty twenty six,

617
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 4: and they did in twenty twenty five. I wouldn't rule

618
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 4: them out yet either. On that get just a wide

619
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Speaker 4: variety of teams that at some point could push more

620
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,640
Speaker 4: chips into the middle of the table. But maybe I'm

621
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,439
Speaker 4: not rolling out the Athletics either, the Athletics being a

622
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Speaker 4: team that took a decent step forward the second half

623
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Speaker 4: of last year and have their their offense is in

624
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 4: a really good spot, and they could still use more

625
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 4: starting pitching as well. So I think the Athletics as

626
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 4: a team that we haven't mentioned yet that has I

627
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 4: think could line up decently and that type of deal.

628
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 4: That's a team that I think is a dark horse

629
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Speaker 4: to trade for him.

630
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the other team that was involved in July

631
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Speaker 2: from what I decided, the Red Sox, and they are

632
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 2: still very much involved.

633
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 3: In the Edward Cabrera sweepstakes.

634
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 2: There's a certain shortstop prospect that Miami does have the

635
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 2: rye on for that one, but it seems to be

636
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 2: a seat price is what the Red Sox believe. I

637
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 2: think them are gonna have to wait till the rangers

638
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 2: for sweepstakes are over in as well as frame, but

639
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna wait for those guys to sign

640
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 2: and then I think you can see you could see

641
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 2: things start heating up, like I said, late July or

642
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,959
Speaker 2: something late January. I'm sorry, I think that would make

643
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 2: the most sense because they need to wait for these

644
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 2: big fish, like Eli said, to to fall and then

645
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 2: there'll be some certainty regarding other teams, which teams are

646
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 2: still in it. I think the Red Sox are another

647
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 2: team that are that remain interested.

648
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: One quick thing with Baltimore is that like if you trade,

649
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 1: if they trade for Cabrera, Cabrera is their best pitcher

650
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: on that staff. Like you don't know if Trevor Rodgers

651
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 1: is gonna do what he did when he got called

652
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 1: up again by the Oorals and they still have bradish boys.

653
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 1: There's a lot of questions with him, especially this season

654
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: he had with Tampa. So that rotation isn't is a

655
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: it's a good rotation, but Cabrera would really be their

656
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: best guy.

657
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 5: He'd be their ace.

658
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 1: You would have to think of that rotation, I mean,

659
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: unless you could think of someone else like that's their guy.

660
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: But really quickly, like something I wanted to note here

661
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 1: with this Cabrera thing is the Marlins aren't by any

662
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: means in a rush to trade this player. They don't

663
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: need to trade him, And if you're thinking of the

664
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: injury concerns, maybe yeah, but they could easily hold on

665
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: to this guy. Cabrera pitches really well first half of

666
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, and there's gonna be teams calling for

667
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 1: him because clearly there's always a market for starting pitching,

668
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: and the Marlins usually lead towards the top of that.

669
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 1: I see your faces, and you guys kind of just

670
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 1: seem like you guys want to get this over with

671
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 1: already and trade him in the off season. But yes,

672
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 1: there's a concern. The injury concern is there if that's

673
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 1: why you're trying to trade him, one hundred percent. But

674
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: if the Martins believe that he is truly healthy, good

675
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 1: to go. Hold on Sam and pitching twenty twenty six.

676
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 3: The issue is how is what five or six year

677
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 3: major league career?

678
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 2: How many times has he had a good first half once?

679
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 2: So that is true, not only the injury part, just

680
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 2: the inconsistency part. And how many times in spring training

681
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 2: it's been five consecutive spring trainings where and.

682
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: I'll say this, and I'll say this, Trevor Rodger again,

683
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: not the same guy but Trevor Rodgers was not great

684
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: in that twenty twenty four season, yet he made every

685
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: start and the Oils traded at the time it was

686
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 1: two big league pieces for him. They're technically prospect, but

687
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: they had they were on the big league team, and

688
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: look how that turned out. So obviously it's a different player.

689
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: But there's clearly a market for starting pitching, and for

690
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: some reason those teams always tend to overpay more than

691
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: during the offseason, and who knows, maybe that could be

692
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: the case with Cabrera. But again I agree, if you

693
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: are concerned that he is going to be out and

694
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: he's going to be injured, or there's something there from

695
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 1: that injury last season at the end of the year

696
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: where that could potentially linger him through spring training or

697
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: who knows, the season, then yeah, you got to move

698
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: on from him. Just take whatever you can at that point.

699
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: But I think there's a world where you can just

700
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: hold on and see what happens at the deadline.

701
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd just be very nervous holding on to him

702
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 4: at this point. I is this is probably the peak

703
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 4: of his value, all things considered, that the other three

704
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 4: full years of control and that you have him coming

705
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 4: off such a high note of a season I've been

706
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 4: you know, I've been very vocal about this in the past,

707
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 4: about feeling that feeling uneasy about keeping him and suggesting

708
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 4: that the Marlins who trade him, and at this point

709
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 4: his value is even if they're not getting exactly what

710
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 4: they want right now, it is much higher than it

711
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 4: was at any other point the previous couple of years.

712
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 5: And that's kind of that's the point.

713
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 4: That's kind of why this seems so likely my mind,

714
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 4: is just because they've been trying to trade him in

715
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 4: the past and now it feels like they have more

716
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 4: leverage than they've had before. It doesn't mean he could

717
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 4: certainly help this team if they held on to him,

718
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 4: but there's just a lot of volatility, not only with

719
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 4: the injury, but with simply throwing strikes. As recently as

720
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 4: twenty twenty four, there were very big issues holding him

721
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 4: back from being a consistent starter, even consistent back at

722
00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 4: the starter, just because of the either inability or inconsistency

723
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 4: to simply throw strikes. And there's yea to me, I

724
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 4: don't know how sticky that is from one year to

725
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 4: the next. That if last year's breakout in that regard

726
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 4: is really going to carry over to twenty twenty six.

727
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 4: I'd be pretty nervous about that, and that's why I

728
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 4: understand why he's been shopped around to this extent.

729
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 2: Hell, that's the thing. His control issues were a problem

730
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 2: last year as well. He was so good that we

731
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 2: sort of forgot about it. But that is that really

732
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 2: has never gone away fully like Sandy's did. Sandy's control

733
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 2: issues well, aside from this year, from twenty twenty one

734
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 2: or twenty to twenty twenty two, it just completely vanished.

735
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 2: Most out of my junior did a whole bunch of

736
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 2: stuff to fix him. I'm not sure if Carbrera is

737
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 2: quite there yet. It is possible, but I'm not sure

738
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 2: he's at that stage in his career where, yeah, and

739
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 2: everything that el Like just mentioned, all the concerns that

740
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 2: Miami does have. All twenty nine other teams have the

741
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 2: same ones. They all know the injury history, they all

742
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 2: know the inconsistencies are throwing strikes. That is why Miami

743
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 2: probably hasn't gone their offer the offer that they'd like,

744
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 2: is because they all know what can it probably will

745
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 2: happen when they do acquire this player. So it's tough

746
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 2: I can't think of another example of a guy with

747
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 2: this much health uncertainty and this much performance uncertainty, was

748
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,879
Speaker 2: coming off a great year, but such tantalizing talents, such

749
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 2: prospect pedigree or you don't can't come to a fair

750
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 2: value evaluation on this one player. But when and if

751
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 2: he is dealt to be fascinating to see the return,

752
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,439
Speaker 2: because if Shane Bass can get that what the Rays got,

753
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 2: then Carbert should be getting something pretty good as well.

754
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 1: Well, you say to look at for the comparison, I

755
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 1: think you just said it. Shane. Shane Boss is very

756
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 1: similar into the Cabrera issues. I mean, only pitched thirteen

757
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 1: innings in twenty one, twenty two to twenty seven and

758
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,399
Speaker 1: then twenty didn't pitch in twenty twenty three because of TJ,

759
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: and then twenty twenty four and only pitched seventy nine

760
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 1: innings this past season. It's the first time in his

761
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: career where he's the pass passed one hundred innings, not

762
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 1: far off from two hundred.

763
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, he wasn't very good either.

764
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 1: He had a four eight to seven ERA. But I

765
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 1: think the big story that's been going around is Michaelaaves,

766
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: who was with the Astros at the time, I think

767
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 1: as their draft director or whatever have been, like he

768
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: liked Shane Bobs, they were gonna draft him and the

769
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 1: Rays got them. So I think you look at those

770
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: two guys and as you know, if the Mark, if

771
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: the if the Rays got what they got for Shane Bobz,

772
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,240
Speaker 1: the Marls should be getting that and who knows, maybe

773
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 1: just more value out of it, better players, Like that

774
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: was a really good trade package that the Race got

775
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: for Boss. Yeah, you know after they.

776
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 2: Would be Boz doesn't didn't suffer from the same control

777
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 2: command issues that Coberra does.

778
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 3: But other than that, yes, it is a fair com And.

779
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,800
Speaker 1: I know, Eli, you dove into that, like how similar

780
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: do you think those situations are because you dove into

781
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 1: it on the official show? And do you think the

782
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: Marls could get more do you think it could be

783
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: maybe less players more quality in that case, like what

784
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: what do you think could happened here?

785
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:50,240
Speaker 4: Copper slightly more value all things considered, it is tricky

786
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 4: to convet just because of the strange composition of the

787
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 4: Bozz package that it was five players for current prospects

788
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 4: and one high draft pick next year. You don't see

789
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 4: a lot of five for trades, and I don't think

790
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 4: the Marlins would necessarily be looking for that, but I

791
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,240
Speaker 4: think all things considered, they could get a much better

792
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 4: center piece and fewer total pieces. That should be the

793
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 4: starting point of negotiations at this point of offers is

794
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,280
Speaker 4: getting what he feels equivalent valued to what bos got.

795
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 4: I think Copara is slightly ahead, but not as much

796
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 4: as I originally thought, just because there are reasons to

797
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 4: think that Boss could be better than he was last year,

798
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 4: and there's reasons to think that Cabrera could just be

799
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,399
Speaker 4: less available moving forward than he was this past year.

800
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:33,280
Speaker 4: So to me, they were quite similar all things considered,

801
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 4: but yet still just comparing that to previous iterations of

802
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 4: Caprera trade rumors, it's more tantalizing there should be more

803
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 4: value coming back in return than we thought in these

804
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 4: previous cycles of rumors. It would still make a significant

805
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:53,439
Speaker 4: difference to the Marlins at other positions of greater need

806
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 4: if they're able to get it done with some team already.

807
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: Last thing before we go to our interview with Vic

808
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: Mason Junior, what's next? At this point, the Moins have

809
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: signed the high leverage reliever they needed. They you would

810
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 1: say they got the first baseman that they wanted. What's

811
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 1: nax Isaac? They need to add to this bullpen. You

812
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: could even make the case that they should bring in

813
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: another right handed hitter. You may need to bring in

814
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: more depth. Where do you think they go next year?

815
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 1: And obviously the Network Cobera trade is still up there

816
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 1: as a possibility, and along with the contract extensions which

817
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 1: have been reported since maybe we profore winter meetings and

818
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: ever since then, it seems like it's been crickets.

819
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, from what I understand, they're not going to sign

820
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 2: or trade for a starter unless they do trade one

821
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 2: of them, whether it's Weather's or Cabrera. Let's say Sandy

822
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 2: is staying put. And from what I was told when

823
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,720
Speaker 2: they signed Morele, he's not going to be the final

824
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 2: bat that they add, whether it's free agency or trade.

825
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 2: They would like to add one more hitter, and position

826
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 2: is not as important to them.

827
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,839
Speaker 3: Obviously. The most glaring hole in the diamond for them

828
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 3: is first base.

829
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 2: They had a league almost a league worse ops from

830
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 2: that position, with most of the reps going to Eric Wagoman,

831
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 2: Liam Hicks, and Troy Johnson. I think they would like

832
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 2: to sign an outfielder. Even though it seems like they

833
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 2: have abundance of options. Their planned it would be to

834
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 2: have sort of one of those guys maybe try and

835
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 2: play some first base, Like we know Griff and conan

836
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 2: Is can to play a little bit of first, We

837
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 2: know Herberto Hernandez can to play a little bit of first.

838
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 2: You know Connor Norby might get some reps there as well,

839
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 2: So they might sign a first base And but it

840
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 2: looks like they're just looking for any sort of best

841
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 2: bat possible and they're gonna try and plug it, plug

842
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 2: them in wherever they see fit, and just mix and

843
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 2: match every single day.

844
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 3: That's the Rays model, That's what Peter Benni is trying

845
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 3: to do.

846
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 2: And they're not trying to limit their search to just

847
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 2: first basement and third basement, which is which are the

848
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 2: two needs, I would say, But they are looking for

849
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,879
Speaker 2: one more bat, I can confirm, and that one might

850
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 2: sort of have to wait until mid to late January

851
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 2: as well, because I think they're waiting for some of

852
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 2: the other dominoes to fall.

853
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, one thing I wanted to know really quick, and

854
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 1: you noted the Red Sox a little bit ago, and

855
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: what that next move could be Tristan Costas is out

856
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: there and he's not gonna be ready for twenty twenty

857
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 1: six opening day. But Eli, I know that's the guy

858
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 1: that I wrote about for a bit. Definitely, when he's healthy,

859
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 1: he's really good. There's no other way to say. I

860
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,320
Speaker 1: know he struggled last season. It was a very limited

861
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 1: amount of games, I think, only twenty something games. But

862
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 1: his first year is rookie year. I mean, he was

863
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:17,839
Speaker 1: really good. He was third in the American League Rookie

864
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: of the Year voting. Like injuries have really hampered this guy.

865
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,399
Speaker 1: And I only say this because the Boston Red Sox

866
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: acquired Wilson and Treas from the Saint Louis Cardinals and

867
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: what was I think a three player trade. One hundred

868
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 1: obbams goes over to the Cardinals and two of the prospects,

869
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 1: so Eli costs us. But on top of that, just

870
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: what do you think this next move could be? Who

871
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 1: are some names that I've stood out to you, Whether

872
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 1: it's a reliever, because I know, regardless of what you think,

873
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: left handed reliever is still very much a need for

874
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 1: this team. Injured Ardy, you don't know what's coming up

875
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: for him. And then Kate Gibson and Josh Simpson are

876
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,959
Speaker 1: just two options that still do not convince.

877
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 5: Me what costs us.

878
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 4: I mean, this is an opportunity to diy low on him,

879
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,399
Speaker 4: But at the same time, I've seen perspectives actually from

880
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 4: the Red Sox side that they might be they might

881
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 4: not be all that eager to sell low on him.

882
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 4: As a guy that still has minor league options left

883
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 4: and doesn't necessarily have to be blocked by contrarists, there's

884
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 4: possibility for them to coexist on that roster at first

885
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,919
Speaker 4: base and DH and we'll see if the Red Sox

886
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 4: are really actually willing to part with him right now

887
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 4: given the current circumstances. When it comes on to the

888
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 4: reliever side, there's so many players still available. I know

889
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,320
Speaker 4: that we do focus a lot on the high leverage

890
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 4: guys that are off the market, but there are plenty

891
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 4: of other experience lefties. The well traveled Andrew Schaffin is

892
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 4: still out there in free agency. Essentially, any lefty out

893
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 4: there that has several years of big league experience, that

894
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 4: is used to inheriting runners, that is used to that

895
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 4: gets ground balls at a better than average rate. I

896
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 4: think those are a couple of those boxes. That if

897
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 4: those guys can check them, then the Marlans should be

898
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 4: all over them.

899
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember guy in twenty twenty three that used

900
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: to do that. But Isaac, anything else before wrap up here?

901
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: I think we've got a pretty long interview with VMJ,

902
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 1: so definitely should be well over an hour worths of

903
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:11,800
Speaker 1: Marlin's content in this podcast.

904
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 2: Oh my, no, just we are expecting to. We're recording

905
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 2: this on Sunday, December twenty eighth. The Pete Fairbanks move

906
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 2: was made official this morning. It is expected that he

907
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 2: will meet the media at some point I would assume

908
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 2: at Loan Deepot Park if not online, and we'll get

909
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 2: some quotes from him from Peter.

910
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 3: We're only their new with signing. Still no introductory press

911
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,720
Speaker 3: conference with Christopher Morele. They're having a tough time locking

912
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 3: that down.

913
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 2: But I assume we'll get to seek with him at

914
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 2: some point before spring training, I hope. But no, like

915
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 2: I said, last than fifty days until Pitchures and Catchers

916
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 2: Reports on First will have great coverage of all things

917
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,879
Speaker 2: Marlin spring training related from mid February all the way

918
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 2: until opening day on March twenty seven, say the twenty six,

919
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 2: now on March twenty seventh, that.

920
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 3: Low deep a party has to call a lot of rockies.

921
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 2: It will be Troy Johnson's long awaited return to Miami

922
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 2: and yeah, it's it's getting close to the big league

923
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 2: time again.

924
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's always This podcast is brought to you by

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929
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: we'll go on to our interview with Miami Marlins outfielder

930
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: Victor Masa Junior, And we are joined by Miami Marlins

931
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: outfielder Victor Mesa Junior, who made his major league debut

932
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five, won the tria A National Championship

933
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 1: as well and won the International League. Victor, very excited

934
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: to have you on. How are you doing and how's

935
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 1: the off season? Trading you so far?

936
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 5: Hey, how are you guys? Thanks for having me here.

937
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 6: Everything's going well at this guy, you know, being with

938
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 6: my famula that's most important and working alad.

939
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 5: How you say it was a great year.

940
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 6: Because the debut, you know, obviously looking for more and

941
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 6: it was obviously get ready.

942
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 5: For the next one victory.

943
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 4: Your family is a little bit bigger than it was

944
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 4: last off season and one before your first one as

945
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 4: a dad. I'm curious what that does to change your

946
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 4: off season routine. Does that make things a little bit

947
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 4: different than they were in previous years now that you

948
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 4: have a baby at home.

949
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's definitely changed a lot right now. It was

950
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 6: a tough night last night, but you know, it is

951
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:28,399
Speaker 6: what it days.

952
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 5: It's a process.

953
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 6: And obviously more than happy and grateful for everything, being

954
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 6: happy in my life and with the kid. That guy,

955
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 6: he's great mostly of the time. He do like phenomenal,

956
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 6: but you know, obviously sometimes he got his time. He's

957
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 6: just five months right now, and we're enjoying him as

958
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 6: much as we can.

959
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 5: But obviously, you know, I gotta work, I gotta I

960
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 5: gotta work out, I gotta do a.

961
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 6: Lot of things, but obviously trying to spend them most

962
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 6: time as I can with him.

963
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,720
Speaker 1: I want you to take us back to twenty eighteen

964
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: when you signed with the Miami Marles. What was that

965
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: they like for you doing with your brother as well?

966
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: How how much did that mean to you and just

967
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: the journey.

968
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,879
Speaker 6: I think that's still like tod three twelve five days

969
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 6: of my life. Obviously it's being a while ago, but

970
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,399
Speaker 6: he's something that I always remember. I remember obviously every

971
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 6: time that it was like a pig or I remember

972
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 6: about it. He's great, especially like signing with your brother

973
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 6: with the same team. Obviously he's more than what you spect,

974
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 6: you know what I mean, And obviously grateful for the

975
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 6: organization for everything.

976
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 5: That is being we meet these whole years, and you know,

977
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,280
Speaker 5: I was obviously looking on the present, but obviously.

978
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 6: It was something that I never like in my own

979
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 6: life that it could happen, and happy about it.

980
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 4: Victory, This isn't the first time that you've been around

981
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 4: to speak with us on fish on first and English.

982
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 4: You've been doing this for years now, and forgot that

983
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 4: didn't know. I don't think he knew very much English

984
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 4: at all when he originally signed with the organization. I'm

985
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 4: curious that there are a lot of guys that they

986
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 4: wait until deep into their professional careers or even after,

987
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 4: or maybe they never even become totally fluent. So I'm

988
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 4: wondering why what it is that you think made you

989
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 4: learn English so quickly compared to other keeping players or

990
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 4: others that come over from Latin American countries but made it.

991
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 4: I don't know if easy, but what made you so

992
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 4: successful at picking up a second language?

993
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 5: To start?

994
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 6: I feel that everything is hard. Is how much like

995
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 6: work and you pursue it right, But thank god, I'm

996
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 6: become my personality. I'm a guy that like to talk.

997
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 6: I like to to make like a good vibes from

998
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 6: the locker and all that. I feel uncomfortable at the

999
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 6: beginning that I went to like a little camp that

1000
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 6: it was like guys like Joe Dunham Monte Harrisons bring Zone.

1001
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 6: It wasn't the beginning like January or something like that,

1002
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 6: and I couldn't even like talk to them, you know

1003
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 6: what I mean.

1004
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 5: And I feel kind of like.

1005
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 6: Bad about it because you know what I mean, like

1006
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 6: I gotta I gotta get used to it. And the

1007
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 6: other part is because I'm kind of like peaky. I

1008
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,919
Speaker 6: was peaky with the food, so I have to learn

1009
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 6: how to order, you know what I mean. So when

1010
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 6: you start to like learn like a little bit in here,

1011
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 6: a little bit on there, you know what I mean?

1012
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 6: You you you you create like a little bit of vocabulary.

1013
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 6: And that had me a lot especially because I was

1014
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 6: pretty close with a show that his name is a

1015
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 6: black List on Netflix. Uh, I watched a lot, and

1016
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 6: you know that helped me on my old teammate now

1017
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 6: that he put me with John Boy NBA John Boy

1018
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 6: straight to it. So you know that had me a

1019
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 6: lot to communicate with all my teammates, and I'm so happy,

1020
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 6: you know that I learned kind of quick again. I

1021
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 6: kind of have like a better communication with my teammates.

1022
00:46:58,719 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 6: That's phenomenal.

1023
00:46:59,600 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 5: Obviously.

1024
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,879
Speaker 6: I feel that when you feel it, when you feel

1025
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 6: in that you are in a good space and you

1026
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 6: have like a good vibe, so something else happens, you

1027
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 6: know what I mean.

1028
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: M Victor, you come from Cuba where there's a lot

1029
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,320
Speaker 1: of players that come from there and very legendary players

1030
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: who were some of those inspirations for you when you

1031
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: were growing up in Cuba.

1032
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 6: Man, it's hard to do the same my dad. But

1033
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 6: being on it with you guys, I didn't see him,

1034
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. Obviously I saw a lot

1035
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,720
Speaker 6: of videos that even videos that he's not the Internet

1036
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 6: people talk to me about him, But obviously I want

1037
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,839
Speaker 6: to talk more about what I live and when I live.

1038
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 6: Julie Goria was a guy that inspired me the most,

1039
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 6: even like I have a relationship with him, He's like

1040
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 6: phenomenal as a person too. So that's why that's a

1041
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 6: low person. Why I wear the number ten is become

1042
00:47:56,120 --> 00:48:00,879
Speaker 6: him and the other person that you guys maybe don't

1043
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 6: think about it, but a guy that imtacked me a

1044
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 6: lot too.

1045
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 5: It was Leonis Martin. I don't know if you guys

1046
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 5: remember him, but I.

1047
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 6: When I was a kid, I want to play like

1048
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 6: him because my manager, my dad like managed him, and

1049
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 6: I was pretty close with him, like obviously as a

1050
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 6: great person too, and uh, I feel great that obviously

1051
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 6: when when I was like growing up, I talked to

1052
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 6: them and I kind of like grow up like around that.

1053
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 6: Uh uh, like vibes around players and all that. So

1054
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 6: I feel that that made me a better player.

1055
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,919
Speaker 4: During the winter, I follow the International winner leagues very close,

1056
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 4: so I know that Leoni's martine is still is out

1057
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 4: there in Mexico.

1058
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 5: He's still tearing it up and hitting bombs and hitting bombs.

1059
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 5: He's a guy that.

1060
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 6: Obviously a lot of things happens in your career and

1061
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 6: you gotta take care everything.

1062
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 5: But I feel that that's a guy that.

1063
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 6: I always that taught him him that he could do

1064
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 6: way more than when he didn't be in leagues because

1065
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 6: when he left Kiva, I really got like great expectations

1066
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 6: about him because he for me, he got all two

1067
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 6: great players more everything. But you know, like still happy

1068
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 6: with what he did, but I phil obviously as a

1069
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,439
Speaker 6: friend and fan, I feel that he could do more,

1070
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 6: you know what I mean, Sometimes when you put your.

1071
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 5: Your like you ballot in the target, that you think

1072
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,320
Speaker 5: that he's gonna do more. I think that happened with

1073
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 5: him because for me, he was like phenomenal.

1074
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 4: You mentioned Julie and he was in the Marlins organization

1075
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 4: a couple of years ago. So you get to kind

1076
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 4: of cross paths with him. There's is he still is

1077
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 4: he still trying to play? It's like what forty two

1078
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 4: years old?

1079
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 6: I mean, I mean, like I don't one of that

1080
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 6: sounds become his friend. I kind of fan too, but

1081
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 6: I feel that he could do it.

1082
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 5: I feel that.

1083
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 6: He's a guy that he would be there and he

1084
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 6: gonna like he always go be approved, you know what

1085
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 6: I mean.

1086
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 5: He wanted to tell you he's.

1087
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 6: Gonna be like a solid seven, solid eight right now,

1088
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:06,320
Speaker 6: you know what I mean obviously when the past it

1089
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 6: was for me like everything, but I feel right now

1090
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 6: he still have it.

1091
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel that.

1092
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 6: Uh. I don't know any team could be looking for

1093
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 6: him because I feel that he's a guy that he

1094
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 6: met Gray.

1095
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 5: Uh uh, looker room. He gonna do his damaging home play.

1096
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:28,280
Speaker 6: He's a great first basement and you know, like obviously

1097
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 6: even when he gets to sixty, I feel that he

1098
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 6: could play because you know, like he's my he's my guy.

1099
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,399
Speaker 4: One more thing on Cuba World Baseball Classic is coming

1100
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 4: up in just a couple of months. The last time

1101
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 4: that it was in the last time the tournament was around,

1102
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 4: you were still early on in the minor leagues. Are

1103
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 4: you interested in playing for Cuba in the BBC's. I

1104
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 4: know it's very complicated, more so with Cuba than with

1105
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 4: other countries in terms of getting approved to play exactly.

1106
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, so what's not going on with no?

1107
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 6: No, right now, I'm not looking to play for a

1108
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 6: lot of reason for I feel them I'm in my

1109
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 6: position right now that I got to go to spring

1110
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 6: training and fire for a position.

1111
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 5: You know, it's being like that year that I obviously

1112
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 5: find the best way. But you know what, I mean,

1113
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 5: like look for a position in in the spring training

1114
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 5: and the seconds.

1115
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 6: It's a lot of things like behind that I'm not

1116
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 6: looking for for play out there right now.

1117
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 5: And you know what I mean, I'm not interested, to

1118
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 5: be honest.

1119
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 4: But you'll be rooting for Cuba.

1120
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 5: I bet no, no, no right now?

1121
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 6: Four of course, Like I mean, like I always being

1122
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 6: grateful with this country because you give me everything. But

1123
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 6: right now, I got like plenty of friends on the

1124
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 6: team and all that, and I'm rooting for Kiva and

1125
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 6: if not, I want USA because that's my second country.

1126
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 1: You crossed paths victory with a lot of a lot

1127
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: of Cubans in tomorrow's organization. Eli noted Yuli Soleiro was here.

1128
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 1: You played that thing with Albert Alma and then obviously Eglacias.

1129
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 1: What was that like for you, just crossing paths with

1130
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 1: guys you're very familiar with and who probably grew up

1131
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 1: watching as well.

1132
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, for sure. Even like it's great when you

1133
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 5: have like.

1134
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 6: A guy that leads you like that, you know what

1135
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 6: I mean, even if we mostly dire in play, I

1136
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:19,280
Speaker 6: talk to them like pretty often when they were in decision.

1137
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 6: They were here because there's a guy that they help

1138
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 6: you a lot, you know what I mean. It's some

1139
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 6: guys that they already leave where you're about to live,

1140
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. So obviously with the time

1141
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 6: that they were here, I take advantage of that. I

1142
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 6: always wear with them, even like sometimes like I don't

1143
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:40,359
Speaker 6: know if it was in twenty twenty two or twenty

1144
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 6: one that I was not in the big league.

1145
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 5: Spring training and Julie Glaciers all them was there, and.

1146
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 6: I was kind of annoying because I was always looking

1147
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 6: for them to go to the locker room to know

1148
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 6: what they were doing and talk to them Becaubviously outside

1149
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 6: of baseball, I'm friends with them, and you know, I

1150
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 6: always league grateful for the treatment that always give me

1151
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 6: and all the advice that they gave me. Obviously tried

1152
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 6: to learn and obviously take a little bit of everyone.

1153
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 1: I want to talk about twenty twenty four because that

1154
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,359
Speaker 1: was probably your best minor league season. You're having your

1155
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: best season. Everyone was assuming you would be a big

1156
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 1: leaguer at some point around that year, especially the way

1157
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 1: the season was going for the Marlins, and unfortunately you

1158
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 1: suffer at believe it's a back injury. Just talk about

1159
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 1: how tough that was for you, knowing that you were

1160
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 1: right there to making it and just talk about that

1161
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 1: season overall. What was working for you as well during

1162
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 1: that time.

1163
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, obviously, Uh it was.

1164
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 6: It's a tough one because I felt that I work

1165
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 6: a lot and I take her I take care of

1166
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 6: what I do every day, what I eat and everything.

1167
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 6: So I feel that I was doing like a gray

1168
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 6: season in Jacksonville. And if it happens for a reason,

1169
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 6: that's that's what I want to think. It was like

1170
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 6: a lower bag is press fracturing, and uh, it just

1171
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 6: happened in a day that it was raining like kind

1172
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 6: of like the like the game's top and then we

1173
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 6: we played again like in the a inning, somebody hit

1174
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 6: like a blueprint to right field. It was like a

1175
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 6: low running like going to home play. I try kind

1176
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 6: of like lit it open, and I feel something in

1177
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 6: the back. Even I tried to play true like a month,

1178
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 6: but obviously, like the numbers were there, I practically can't

1179
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 6: even like swing, but.

1180
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,760
Speaker 5: I usually I want to test God for everything happens.

1181
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 6: Like I feel that maybe if that happened because I

1182
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 6: was not ready to play on the night club.

1183
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 5: Who knows, maybe I was about to Rake. You know

1184
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 5: how that happened? Who knows, but obviously know that I'm

1185
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 5: pretty happy with that year because I feel that I

1186
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 5: kind of like dominate.

1187
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 6: I was feeling gray. I feel that I was doing

1188
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 6: damage and helped to the team to get wins. But

1189
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 6: you know, already looking for what is right now and

1190
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 6: the pass already already passed, So you know, like.

1191
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 5: That's how I got.

1192
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 4: Could you take us back to when you got called

1193
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 4: up in major debut early on last season, because there's

1194
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 4: probably an image in your mind in terms of how

1195
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:14,359
Speaker 4: thought you thought it might go. They ended up bring

1196
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:16,840
Speaker 4: make that debut all the way over in San Diego,

1197
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 4: right flying all the way across the country. Can you

1198
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 4: remember how did you get the news? And like how

1199
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 4: did you get everybody organized to go all the way

1200
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:28,280
Speaker 4: across the country over there instead of in Miami.

1201
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel that I.

1202
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 6: Don't remember who told me did but do you mind?

1203
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 6: In so many different ways and it never happened the

1204
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 6: way that you think. I was coming from an injury

1205
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 6: that I don't even play in his sprint finen because

1206
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:50,240
Speaker 6: they had me and I come back against Sanduis Cardinals

1207
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 6: for play and I did pretty good that week.

1208
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 5: Even I feel I think that I used to play

1209
00:55:55,360 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 5: five days, you know, to be on a with you guys.

1210
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 6: I was not expected it because I'm focused on what

1211
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 6: do I say. Obviously with twenty fifteen e BS, They're

1212
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 6: not going to call me up, you know, like obviously

1213
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 6: I need to play more and show them that I

1214
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 6: could available to play. And they called me up, they

1215
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 6: take me out of the game. When they take me

1216
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 6: out of the game with obviously we all respect. I

1217
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 6: was about to talk with the money what happened, and

1218
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 6: I'm feeling great, and he called me in and he

1219
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 6: told me, like you're about to get caught up.

1220
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 5: Obviously you're going to Texas Squad. You not ready yet.

1221
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 5: But even like that that happened, that was everything for me.

1222
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 6: I started to cry because not because I go to Bigley,

1223
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 6: because that's the way that I've been working on because

1224
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 6: but all what I passed.

1225
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 5: Through, like all my family have to like.

1226
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 6: Tolerate doing all this time, every time that I go

1227
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 6: to like workout every morning, I feel that it was

1228
00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 6: like a dream come true.

1229
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 5: And you know, for me, it was everything. Even like

1230
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 5: the next day when I went to uh.

1231
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 6: San Diego, the first plane, it was delayed, so I

1232
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 6: missed the second one, so I have to take like

1233
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 6: another one. I went to the game like without it

1234
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 6: without sleep, because definitely I sleep, you know what I mean,

1235
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 6: Because when they call you up, like you pick up

1236
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 6: up with your stuff.

1237
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 5: So thanks got I got a lot of stuff, so

1238
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 5: I have to pack like real quick.

1239
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 6: And then uh, when I get there, I don't even

1240
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 6: think about that. I was not that I I don't

1241
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:39,479
Speaker 6: even need or didn't even sleep. I just wanted to play,

1242
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 6: and uh, they told me that that was activating.

1243
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 5: I celebrate.

1244
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 6: I called my family that they were already there because

1245
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 6: I told them that they gotta fly no matter what.

1246
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 6: And uh, even like I never in mind on my

1247
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 6: lape that I'm gonna come like in the in the

1248
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 6: in the A or in the seventh. I think that

1249
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 6: I come in and then my first a bad. Obviously

1250
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 6: you see that I was kind of anxious, but you know,

1251
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 6: like obviously like for me, like what's everything?

1252
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 5: You know what I mean?

1253
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 6: Like even like I was running like through the field,

1254
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 6: I don't even like heard the god bless American anthem

1255
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 6: because I was like to focused, you know what I mean,

1256
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 6: Like even if it's true that when I was in Queba.

1257
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 5: My dad was a moneyer. I saw like a lot

1258
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 5: of fans in the field, but it's different when you play.

1259
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 5: It was the first time. It was like incredible experience.

1260
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 6: Like for me, I think that is like number a

1261
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 6: better place that I could make my debut than San

1262
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 6: Diego because it's great and obviously I feel that it

1263
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 6: could do better because my AMBI, I felt that I

1264
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 6: was kind of anxious. I'm not gonna say nervous, because

1265
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 6: I feel I know everything that that I was doing.

1266
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 6: I was lucky and everything, but I just went to

1267
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 6: home play looking for a content, you know what I mean.

1268
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 5: Take that out and.

1269
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 6: The next day I want to I want to. I

1270
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 6: want to say here because I was like a great

1271
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 6: like a great advice that happened when we were to

1272
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 6: the next hitters meeting before the game. Everyone I was

1273
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 6: like kind of like like super like focused and not

1274
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 6: talking too much, and Stour come to me and he said,

1275
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 6: please write.

1276
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 5: Your hand whoever who's taking a strike out on the

1277
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 5: first a bat.

1278
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 6: Uh, more than seventy percent of the team, like raise

1279
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 6: your hand that gets a strike out on the first bat.

1280
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 5: And that made me feel better, to be honest, and.

1281
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 6: Thank God, the next abbat, I get the first hand

1282
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 6: and everything like go away, and I feel after that

1283
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 6: I play.

1284
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 5: Much better than when I did the day before.

1285
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, do you still have the ball from that first hit?

1286
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 4: Where do you keep it?

1287
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 6: He's right here if you want to go in and

1288
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 6: show you guys, and uh yeah, go really quick, show us.

1289
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 6: I got like a little bit of everything. I'm a

1290
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 6: guy who likes to collect some stuff. Not a big

1291
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 6: fan of like sign and stuff or whatever. But it

1292
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 6: is right here.

1293
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 5: It is right here, I see. And if you want

1294
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 5: to show you this is.

1295
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 6: A gender rebuild, I know I got away, but this

1296
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 6: is a Jully jersey that I've been looking for like

1297
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 6: more than seven years, and I got a couple of

1298
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 6: jerseys in here that this is.

1299
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 5: I think it's my favorite place in the house.

1300
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 6: But here is what I quit and I uh, I

1301
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 6: keep all my like the things that I take care most,

1302
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 6: so you know it's out there. Even I said the

1303
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 6: first the bad two, the first Homer, and you know,

1304
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 6: a little bit of everything. I'm a guy to when

1305
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 6: I finished my career, hopefully in uh decade or more,

1306
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 6: I would like to have like a room for everything

1307
01:00:56,760 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 6: or that because I like, you know, I mean something

1308
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 6: that I jilt.

1309
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 1: Can you what was the difference for you the first

1310
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 1: time you got called up, You go up there, you

1311
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 1: have the hit, you play well, it was okay, and

1312
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 1: then he got sent back down. What was the message

1313
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 1: that they gave you when you got sent back down?

1314
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 1: But then you get called back up and you look

1315
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 1: a lot more comfortable. The approach changed for you a

1316
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 1: little bit. Just talk about that second stint for you?

1317
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 1: What do you think changed and what you know? Obviously

1318
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 1: I think you just played a lot better overall that

1319
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 1: second stint.

1320
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure.

1321
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 6: Like first, I feel that you got to understand that

1322
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:37,920
Speaker 6: the circumstance where like everything happened, I wasn't no matter

1323
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 6: at how whatever.

1324
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 5: You know, I completely understand it.

1325
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 6: And you know, even if I did okay, I feel

1326
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 6: like that always you could do better, you know what

1327
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 6: I mean. So it was a good take for me

1328
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 6: because that's something that it would made me even more hungry,

1329
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 6: like hungry that I want to come back. This is

1330
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 6: what I want for my career, and I work a

1331
01:01:57,640 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 6: lot even like I kind of get her a game.

1332
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 6: You know, it was like a tough year, but that's good.

1333
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 6: I could make it back, and uh, I feel way

1334
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 6: way more comfortable that time. I felt that all my

1335
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 6: bees they were kind of like uh big leguay bees,

1336
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:15,520
Speaker 6: you know, like looking for a good approach, making good contacts.

1337
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:17,920
Speaker 5: I feel like kind of like Lucky was not on

1338
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 5: my way, but obviously doesn't know.

1339
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 6: Something that you look for. You I look for, make

1340
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 6: good at bees, help the team of defense, and you

1341
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 6: know like I feel the second time, Yeah, for sure

1342
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 6: it was like better in terms or mindset or whatever

1343
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 6: because I said, like, I'm not gonna look for whatever happened.

1344
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 6: I just want to play take advantage of whatever, like

1345
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 6: the minimum opportunity, and that's what you look for, you

1346
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 6: know what I mean. A little advice that I could

1347
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 6: give to a guy that is about to receive the call,

1348
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 6: uh next year or whatever. It's like, just play the game,

1349
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:55,960
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. Don't think about like so

1350
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 6: many like stuff that he happened in size, you know

1351
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 6: what I mean, like just do go do his job

1352
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 6: and whatever you have to be with these So you

1353
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 6: know what I mean, like, thanks God for the opportunity,

1354
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:09,960
Speaker 6: but obviously looking for more because that's the that's the

1355
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:10,919
Speaker 6: game that I want to play.

1356
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 1: Well, you got sent back down, but you end up

1357
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 1: being crowned champion. You win the International League in Triple A,

1358
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 1: and then he got to go to Vegas and play

1359
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 1: one of the craziest games that we could remember where

1360
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 1: Barry hits the walkoff homer to win the Triple A

1361
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 1: National Championship. Just talk about playing in the playoffs in

1362
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 1: Triple A and winning the International League and then seeing

1363
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 1: Jacob Barry walk it off to win the National Championship

1364
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 1: for Triple A.

1365
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:40,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, like.

1366
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 6: Since they since I guts sent down, like I used

1367
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 6: to come back to the same mindsete that I was,

1368
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:51,080
Speaker 6: you know what I mean? Like Okay, like I'm not

1369
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 6: what I want to be because obviously I wish to

1370
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:56,160
Speaker 6: be in big leagues, but I got to come back

1371
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 6: here and do the job that I'm supposed to do,

1372
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 6: you know what I mean, because uh, we gotta help

1373
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:04,680
Speaker 6: the team. We got like a great chemistry out there too,

1374
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:09,040
Speaker 6: So it was like a great game at the beginning.

1375
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 6: We we we start harding, we start getting like good

1376
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 6: advides and everything, and we thought the game was done.

1377
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 5: Even like shout out to to Snelling where they bring

1378
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 5: Snelling in, Like bro, like I got a lot of like.

1379
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 6: Respect and everything because for me, he's the guy that

1380
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 6: I that is gonna dominate big leagues for a while.

1381
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 5: He's a he's a dog, and uh uh things kind

1382
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 5: of go the other way.

1383
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 6: Uh love us that come with a home run, like,

1384
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 6: uh that was incredible, but you know, like we always

1385
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 6: got a chant because we were playing home like Hume

1386
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:53,440
Speaker 6: because it wasn't their home, but we're playing like we

1387
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 6: were hitting the second and I was about to hit him,

1388
01:04:57,240 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 6: and this guy Winkler, he made like like a grand

1389
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:01,560
Speaker 6: final Like.

1390
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 5: I'm for me, he's pretty spressure, you know what I mean.

1391
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 6: I like him a lot of the player I saw

1392
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 6: him since like a while ago when he was in Homeland.

1393
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 6: He started with a base hit into the middle. And

1394
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:19,760
Speaker 6: then I come to home play. I for first I

1395
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:22,440
Speaker 6: get like a good football with a fastball, and then

1396
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 6: I know they were coming with a breaking ball or

1397
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 6: something and that was that's what I was looking for,

1398
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 6: a hit, a fulltball. Hover that it was by that

1399
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 6: and I said, no way, no way, because I not

1400
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 6: it was like that was the pitch. Obviously I tried

1401
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 6: to bottle. Unfortunately I get a strike out on that one.

1402
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:42,800
Speaker 6: But then I come to me I said, bro, like

1403
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:46,200
Speaker 6: just focused on the fastball, Like he's a guy that

1404
01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:49,040
Speaker 6: throw hard, but he have not that much movement, Like,

1405
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 6: just go for you fastball. Even like I went in

1406
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:54,040
Speaker 6: because I was kind of mad. I trod my helmet

1407
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 6: and when I look back, I saw the boat flying.

1408
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 6: I was jumping and celebrating because he was our hero.

1409
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:06,760
Speaker 6: And I'm still like sending so much some time to hey,

1410
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:10,720
Speaker 6: our hero whatever, you know, because that was pretty impressive.

1411
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:13,480
Speaker 6: And that's the guy who who I think that he

1412
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 6: could be. He he's a great player, and.

1413
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 2: You know, like.

1414
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:21,880
Speaker 5: Obviously it's good to have like a ring when we

1415
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:22,800
Speaker 5: come back next year.

1416
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:27,240
Speaker 4: I want to just make sure everybody listening understands you

1417
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 4: were that close to hitting them walk off home yourself.

1418
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 5: It had the distance.

1419
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 4: I was watching it this before we went on this podcast.

1420
01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 4: I've rewatched it just to make sure and like, you

1421
01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 4: were that close, but your teammate pick you picked you

1422
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 4: up and up.

1423
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, it doesn't matter who made it. The

1424
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:45,520
Speaker 5: most important needs to win. At the end of the day.

1425
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:48,400
Speaker 5: You can as what he won.

1426
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 6: If he goes before and win the championship or hit

1427
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:52,360
Speaker 6: the hummer, you know what I mean. Obviously, he gonna

1428
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:55,160
Speaker 6: go for the championship. What the people are gonna like

1429
01:06:55,960 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 6: remember the most, what the organizations celebrating, and obviously to

1430
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:05,200
Speaker 6: have like individuals like words.

1431
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 5: You gotta be good uh as a team, as a teammate,

1432
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:10,560
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. So for me doesn't matter, Jmede.

1433
01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 5: I just want to win. We went there to win

1434
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 5: and task God, we come back with the with the ring,

1435
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:17,520
Speaker 5: right and there there are rings.

1436
01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:19,440
Speaker 4: I was just having a conversation with the guy in

1437
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:23,120
Speaker 4: Jacksonville yesterday for a separate podcast, and he was telling

1438
01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:25,560
Speaker 4: me that they they designed the rings. I think they're

1439
01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:27,520
Speaker 4: going to give them in out in during spring training

1440
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:30,240
Speaker 4: in Jupiter to to everybody that was part of that.

1441
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:33,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, I already set my size already. I get I

1442
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 5: get on the pin. This one they can go on

1443
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 5: for a rookie Bowl. I want to get the Penguins.

1444
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:41,040
Speaker 6: Hopefully in the future I would have we would have

1445
01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 6: one uh whatever you want to have one leagues.

1446
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 5: I think that's a dream man like looking forward.

1447
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, just there's a couple more questions for you.

1448
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 5: Victory.

1449
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 4: You already talks about you know that you're going to

1450
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:55,560
Speaker 4: be in a competition in spring training to fight for

1451
01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:57,960
Speaker 4: that role on the big league team where seeing that

1452
01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 4: is very deep in good outfielders and they gave you

1453
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:03,160
Speaker 4: a chance last year, But do you obviously want a

1454
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:06,840
Speaker 4: chance to stick there and to play on a consistent basis.

1455
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:09,360
Speaker 4: So what what in particular are you working on this

1456
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 4: off season to come back being a better player than

1457
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 4: ever before and give yourself the best opportunity to win

1458
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 4: that job for sure?

1459
01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:19,240
Speaker 6: Like honestly, how you say, we got like a pretty

1460
01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 6: good competition, like every day off feel that we got

1461
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:25,439
Speaker 6: there there dogs they are pretty good ones, and you know,

1462
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 6: looking to be consistently to be healthy.

1463
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 5: I think that's the most important.

1464
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:32,800
Speaker 6: I feel U on the past, what I did on

1465
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:37,160
Speaker 6: in the last two years, it was pretty good while

1466
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:40,840
Speaker 6: I was healthy. So looking forward for a healthy teason

1467
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:44,120
Speaker 6: and a healthy career. That's what I for A workout

1468
01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 6: for what I pray for, what I work. So looking

1469
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:51,720
Speaker 6: for be health and then trust my talent what I work,

1470
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:54,160
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. After that, I give my

1471
01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:58,519
Speaker 6: one hundred percent and then like you know, like whatever

1472
01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:00,479
Speaker 6: decision that they got to take, know what I mean,

1473
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:02,920
Speaker 6: I'm gonna be some what we do in the field,

1474
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:06,200
Speaker 6: So I'm not worry about him, just worry about to

1475
01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 6: do my job. And then if I do my job,

1476
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:11,280
Speaker 6: now I know I'm gonna help the team. So that's

1477
01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:11,720
Speaker 6: all I got.

1478
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:15,439
Speaker 1: Alright, we're gonna wrap it up right there. Victor, thank

1479
01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:17,880
Speaker 1: you so much for joining us. We really appreciate your time.

1480
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:20,920
Speaker 1: And from Victor Eli myself, we'll see guys on two weeks.

1481
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:22,840
Speaker 1: Peace out and as always, go fish.

1482
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:25,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, thank you, Thank you for having me here and

1483
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:27,439
Speaker 6: see you guys in this fraend and gonna be a

1484
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:28,519
Speaker 6: phone win see you guys.

1485
01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:29,600
Speaker 5: Thank you for having me

1486
01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:39,400
Speaker 6: Right