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Speaker 1: to us live on Super Bowl Sunday is the day

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Speaker 1: that we are recording. We were so moved by the

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Speaker 1: spirit of the holiday that we said emergency recording. Now. Um,

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Speaker 1: We did just talk about them. We're skipping in and

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Speaker 1: I think we can't. We are skipping it. Unfortunately we can't.

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Speaker 1: We can't talk about any of the specifics of the

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Speaker 1: can go and edit in things about her performance. I

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Speaker 1: loved when she performed We Found Love. Yeah. I loved

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Speaker 1: the most insane labeling I've overheard, but I am obsessed

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Speaker 1: with it. Unfortunately. Um So, Sam, what's going on over there? Well?

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Speaker 1: What I wanted to talk about actually, um which not

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Speaker 1: every day and as a cisman, put on hot pink

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Speaker 1: Like I'm even like, oh, like, maybe there's gotta be

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Speaker 1: So okay, this is like me. And so, as we

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Speaker 1: You know. Obviously we're talking about things like outsider art theater,

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Speaker 1: my chicken dinner. Yes, and I am in fact ready

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Speaker 1: to get this fucking episode going. Yes hell yes, brother,

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Speaker 1: and please welcome the Rihanna of this episode of Stradio

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Speaker 1: Lab Emmy Block, Nick, Oh my lord, I'm so thrilled

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Speaker 1: to be part of this holy holiday with you. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: please tell us your relationship with the super Bowl at large.

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Speaker 1: It's really complicated and mysterious in its absence. I think

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Speaker 1: You know, people are scared of Sundays. Generally speaking, people

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Speaker 1: But the super Bowl, I mean what's nice about the

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Speaker 1: I don't know, tomorrow everyone's gonna be like did you

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Speaker 1: And then you know it's something to chat about. It work,

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Speaker 1: grew up with that you feel like you want to revisit?

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00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 1: And then usually it's like, you know, taxes, yes, but um, sorry, Sam,

422
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 1: I felt like Cold Cuts sparked something in you, and

423
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 1: I rudely interrupted no, And I thank you for calling

424
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,199
Speaker 1: me in because I was gonna, you know, let it slide.

425
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 1: And the listeners deserve to know that Cold Cuts did

426
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 1: in fact speak to me. Um, but it's sort of

427
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 1: a difficult speaking to me because it's I see myself

428
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 1: in cold cuts. I see myself in you know, someone

429
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 1: who wants cold cuts in the house, and um, that's

430
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 1: really hard when that mirror is so clear. Um, but

431
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 1: it is a it's real. There's something real to it.

432
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 1: I even think just the phrase cold cuts has made

433
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 1: me uncomfortable in like a panty way, you know, where

434
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: it's like that's one of those fur words. It's like,

435
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 1: this is kind of weird. That's so interesting because I

436
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,919
Speaker 1: feel the opposite where I'm like, what perfect. It almost

437
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 1: seems like something someone would come up with now, like

438
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 1: a branding genius, Like how crazy that that's an old

439
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 1: word and not like a new direct consumer startup cold cuts.

440
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 1: I mean, it's such a it's such a perfect little phrase.

441
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 1: It does sound sort of like a like a cryotherapy

442
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 1: clinic some sort or like have you tried cold cuts?

443
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 1: Are you taking a cold cut probiotic? Oh? Yes, yes,

444
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 1: I am actually, and that's why I've been shipping like

445
00:26:53,600 --> 00:27:01,120
Speaker 1: perfect free stride turds. Oh my god, Now talking about

446
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 1: something you can package thees out. I wish astronauts telling

447
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 1: them astronaut turds. That's such a beautiful song title. Um.

448
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 1: I always feel like the person doing cold cut, Like

449
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 1: when you do buy cold cuts at the grocery store.

450
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,880
Speaker 1: I don't think they've ever been sliced for me by

451
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: a woman or by a man under forty interesting, Well,

452
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 1: you know that's sort of a sign of because I,

453
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 1: in fact, you'll never believe this. Go to a place

454
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 1: where it is a woman slicing them, and I feel

455
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: like that's sort of a this sort of you know,

456
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 1: posteen Williamsburg artisanal vibe where you're like, well, this is

457
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 1: clearly ethically made. A woman cut it. Women can use

458
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 1: the slicer too, yes, um, okay, but the topic is

459
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:57,439
Speaker 1: the topic is maps, and yet we keep getting and gentlemen,

460
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: karen O, she performs maps. Okay, Wow, that would be huge.

461
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: That would be huge if Kareno showed up in a

462
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: zoom window and performed maps. Okay. So wait, I mean,

463
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 1: what led you to uh maps as a straight topic?

464
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 1: I okay, So I am married to a straight man,

465
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,400
Speaker 1: and I have found that that's one of the first

466
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: things I wanted to outsource to my better half. Slash

467
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 1: Ball and Chain Slash you know, like I was very

468
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: excited to not have to read maps anymore, and then

469
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 1: once I was traveling alone again, I was like, oh no,

470
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 1: this has become actually like a huge deficiency for me

471
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 1: where I will walk the opposite direction of where I'm going,

472
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 1: like I need walking maps, and it's I just feel

473
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 1: humiliated by them, and I have to blame straightness at

474
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 1: large for it. I guess. Yeah, No, I think, first

475
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: of all, you are correct. I mean maps is like okay,

476
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 1: Christopher Columbus. It's it's more to that. It's worse than

477
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: just straight it's colonialist. Well, it is literally colonial. Yes,

478
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: So I have so much to say about this, and

479
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: I'm like you mentioned emmy not I want I want

480
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 1: to know more about sort of your history with not

481
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: being able to read maps well, because I think maybe

482
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 1: there is a sort of maybe we are kindred in

483
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 1: this sense, and let me know if I'm projecting onto you.

484
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: But I feel like you are potentially someone who is

485
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: like probably academically very smart, probably was a really good student,

486
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: and I want to know if, like me, you were, like,

487
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 1: is the fact that I can't read maps a sign

488
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: that I'm actually deep down stupid? Yes? Absolutely, And weirdly,

489
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: I have a little bit of I'm going to say

490
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: self diagnos most dyslexia with numbers and with left and right.

491
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: So I did go to college and um, I have

492
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: read a book. Um, but in general, like direct if

493
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: you give me directions, I won't retain them, and if

494
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: you show me a map, I will um flip it

495
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: and reverse it in my mind the way I don't

496
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: even attempt if someone like try, like or even when

497
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: someone's trying to describe where something is and they're like,

498
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 1: you know when sixty one and I completely like immediately

499
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: check out, and I just not. It's like it's better

500
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 1: to just nod and let it wash over you than

501
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: to try to participate in any meaningful way. Yeah, at

502
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: some point, when someone's giving me a direction, so I'm like,

503
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: what does this person want from me? Even though I

504
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: asked them, You're like silently tearing up, like I am

505
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 1: being held at hostage right now. I have to say, though,

506
00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: I think I absolutely love giving people direction, especially like

507
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: when I'm just sort of winging it, like I love

508
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: being like yeah, Like they'll be like, is there a

509
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: train station over here? I'll be like, um, yeah, I

510
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: believe it's like two blocks that way and fifty there's

511
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 1: a fifty chance I'm wrong, but I have to do

512
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: it every single time. So directions are like a performance

513
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: for you in a way performance aren't. Directions are a

514
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: huge performance. It's where I come alive. It's projecting a

515
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 1: confidence that is just not there, and I'm like, there's

516
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 1: no reason for this. I choose to look confident and

517
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: cool over being helpful, actually, and that's what I do. Yeah,

518
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: I like giving directions and I don't really care if

519
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: I'm wrong, Like I just want to look cool and

520
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: confident rather than be helpful. Well, I'm like the few

521
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 1: times I actually know where I am, if something is

522
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: like in my neighborhood, or if something is truly like

523
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: a block way I then I'm like, oh great, now

524
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: I can pretend I'm like normal people and like they'll

525
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: think I do this all the time. Okay. I also

526
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 1: some maps, specifically the way that they're like a little puzzle,

527
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: like the way that they're like and here's the key,

528
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 1: like this is how much distance this is And it's

529
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: like okay, wait, but there's not like a tool, like

530
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: they're like not meant to be able to be used

531
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: easily it's not like you can like take the tool

532
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: out and be like, okay, so it's two miles to there.

533
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: You just have to like kind of eyeball it. And

534
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: that's like I don't have that type of confidence and

535
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: eyeballing on a map. Sometimes it's the difference between like

536
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: a three hour drive and a five hour drive, and

537
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: I will only sit for four hours, So you know,

538
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: I don't know it's I I certainly I do remember

539
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: the days of like printing out multi page map quest

540
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: directions and feeling more comforted by that than a map. Yeah,

541
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: I love that. Actually, I will say it's also okay,

542
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: this is a maybe a gay thing. Anytime I'm holding

543
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: a map, it's like instantly a performance. Like holding a map,

544
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: I am like Sandra Bullock, like in a nineties movie,

545
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: like sipping a coke and like being in the like

546
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: passenger seat, like looking hot and cool, like and being like, oh,

547
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: I've got it, like we take this right, and it's

548
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: like not ever like it's it's it is a prop.

549
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 1: To me, It's hard for me to see it as

550
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: like an actual helpful It's dorethy explorer. I mean you're

551
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: immediately dorthy Explorer. Your backpack is talking to you and

552
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: you're running away from a fox, and and and and

553
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 1: to that, I say, grow up. It's Dorthy Explorer exactly.

554
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: So I want to get into sort of the men

555
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: the man versus woman of it all with maps, because

556
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 1: of course, the classic stereotype is that men don't want

557
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 1: to ask for directions. So, Emmy, what's that about? What

558
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 1: is that about? I feel like I guess it shows

559
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 1: vulnerability to be like I even know where I am

560
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: and that might be a touch swing, But what about

561
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: the fact that you'll never see that person again most

562
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 1: likely and right not and like taking your family into

563
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: the woods or whatever, it's like way worse. Yeah, But well,

564
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: the vulnerability thing is so apt because it's like, you know,

565
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 1: there's this fear that, oh, it might be a slippery slope, Like,

566
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: first thing, I'm asking for directions, next thing, you know,

567
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: I'm going to be talking about my relationship with my

568
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 1: dad to this stranger, Like you know, you never know

569
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: what it's going to lead to, Like better to just

570
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:23,720
Speaker 1: say silent and stoic. Yes, yeah, God forbid, I asked

571
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 1: this man for directions and fall in love with him, Yes, exactly. Okay,

572
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: we have our new short film. Yeah, and you know what,

573
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: I'll say this, like asking for directions is actually always

574
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: going to be more effective than looking at a map,

575
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 1: and and you get to make a new friend, and

576
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 1: you get to exercise more human rather than robotic qualities.

577
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,280
Speaker 1: It's sort of like, well, it's sort of like straight,

578
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: straight men want to be robots and everyone else actually

579
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: satisfied being a human, you know what I mean. It's

580
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 1: really it's like no, but it's truly. It's like this

581
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: is the same thing with like chat, GPT and all

582
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: this stuff where it's like, isn't it cool that we're

583
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 1: evolving into robots and you're like, actually, no, you know,

584
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: it would be cool evolving into humans. I think I

585
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: think I love the idea that asking for directions is

586
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: actually upholding like oral histories exactly exactly. It it's like

587
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: it's giving like storytelling by the fire. It is you know,

588
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: Asop's Fables, It's it's myth building. It's like myth building,

589
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:38,439
Speaker 1: it's the Agora, it's Socrates. Um is native traditions, because

590
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:44,240
Speaker 1: you Robert Frost, thank you, Sure, it's a literary tradition

591
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: as well. Um. It's well, it's also like when someone

592
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: says like, Okay, so you're gonna go for like a

593
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 1: like a mile or two, and then there's gonna be

594
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: a big tree that you're gonna turn left at, and

595
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 1: then like you pass a pond. Like I'm like, okay,

596
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: you're painting me a picture like this, I can see

597
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 1: so much clear, more clearly than like looking at a

598
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: topographical map. I look at that and I see nothing. Yeah,

599
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 1: they're gonna be like you're gonna feel the rain on

600
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 1: your skin that no one else can feel for you,

601
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: and only you can let it in, only you can

602
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: let it in. You know. That should be a sort

603
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 1: of a movement of like more human centered directions where

604
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: they like take detours. There's poeticism in them. You're like, well, there,

605
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 1: you're gonna want to You're gonna be tempted to, um,

606
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: think about your grandfather, her and left. That would be unmistakable. Yeah.

607
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: Whereas a compass, I feel like I don't even understand

608
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: how a compass works or like I think it like

609
00:36:55,880 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: where is like cool? Like that doesn't help North, which

610
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: every day I'm facing. Don't even get me started on magnets.

611
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm like this, it's like this is

612
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 1: not this is fake, and you can't convince me that

613
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: it's like some higher like the Earth is a magnet.

614
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Magnets are what's on my fridge. Yeah, no,

615
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: I mean that's quite literally insane, and it's just like

616
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna you know, I heard the dogs like

617
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 1: pick where they are going to like poop and pee

618
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 1: based on like magnetic fields, and I'm like that, I

619
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 1: can't be having that in my life. Now, that's interesting,

620
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: like Mary Ann Williamson in that way. Yeah, exactly, do

621
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: you compasses magnets? I feel like they're certainly using them. Yeah,

622
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 1: they're using them. The compasses themselves are not mag it's

623
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 1: it's all using a magnet. No, am I crazy smoke

624
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: coming out of my head right now? Um? Okay, wait, okay,

625
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 1: I have too more map things. The first one is

626
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:07,280
Speaker 1: maybe too obvious, but maps as decor is like something

627
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: a quintessential straight thing because it's like it's sort of

628
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,800
Speaker 1: we've done like movie posters as decor, and like this

629
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: one is also like I want something on the wall,

630
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:24,399
Speaker 1: of course, but I cannot imply that I'm gay. Well,

631
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: I want something on the wall common no homo. And

632
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: then suddenly you end up with a pulp fiction poster

633
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 1: and a map of Denver. But at the same time,

634
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 1: like I and this is a sort of a cold

635
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: cut situation where I do see myself in it, Like

636
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: like I'd rather have a map of New York City

637
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: than like a like a print that I don't know

638
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 1: anything about. So I'm kind of torn on it. I

639
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: think it depends heavily on the map, like do come

640
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,720
Speaker 1: in there like thoughts, Like they come in every shape

641
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: and style. So if you have a New York if

642
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,320
Speaker 1: you have like a New York City map where the

643
00:38:55,360 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 1: neighborhoods are drawn in like home depo font where spray

644
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 1: painted block letters, Hell's kitchen, etcetera, that's that map is

645
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: hiding something or you're hiding something about yourself in that map. Wow,

646
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: I would love Okay, this is my genius. My new

647
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 1: Etsy idea is it's gonna be like a map of

648
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 1: Brooklyn and then like where instead of like all the

649
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: neighborhood are gonna be lbeled what they are, but then

650
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: instead of Bushwick, it's just gonna say home and it's

651
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: gonna have like it's gonna have like a little heart

652
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: on it Okay, this is that's that is literally genius,

653
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 1: and then you can order it like custom and it's

654
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 1: like wherever you're a home is home. And then actually,

655
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 1: you know, I hate to be so business minded and entrepreneurial,

656
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: but you can take it a step further and have

657
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: other parts of your life be also labeled. So it's

658
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 1: a map, and then it's like home, but then where

659
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 1: you where your sister lives, it's like Marcy. And then

660
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: I'm dying at the idea of having like a Brooklyn

661
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:12,720
Speaker 1: using like like um like cheesy midwestern like home esthetics,

662
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 1: but for like a Brooklyn thing is like killing me.

663
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 1: I love that so much. Oh, I don't know why

664
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 1: I'm so giggly today. It's kind of insane. No, I

665
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: have it, so then I want to know emmy, Like

666
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,399
Speaker 1: if the one end of the spectrum is like home

667
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: depot font Brooklyn map, like that is artless, it is basic.

668
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: It is like, you know, just moved here to go

669
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 1: to n y U. Then what is the other end

670
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: of that spectrum? What is like what is Deborah Eisenberg's

671
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: map that she has framed in her apartment? More like

672
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: who is Deborah eisen Thank you for asking me questions.

673
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 1: I have no idea who that is? She think. I

674
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 1: think like a quintessential, like sophisticated New Yorker. You can

675
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 1: just say any woman's name and make it sort of

676
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 1: Jewish and be like, you don't know, like the most daughter.

677
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 1: So yeah, okay, if fine, my analysts, you know Deborah Eisenberg, No, George,

678
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: that's your best friend. We don't know her. You've had

679
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: no dad. See, I feel like they do have. I

680
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: have a vision of somewhere on Madison Avenue a store

681
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:26,479
Speaker 1: that's just called Old Maps, and it's like it has

682
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 1: like a it has more of a how do I

683
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: describe the vibe, more of like a like British e

684
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: tea timey old antique maps. And they're expensive as hell

685
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 1: and they come in like gilded like friends that have

686
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 1: like swoops and loops in them. And I guess that's

687
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: the tasteful version, but I'm not even sure. I'm not

688
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: even sure like that. Yeah, I'm trying to think like

689
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 1: if I were to if someone had a gun to

690
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 1: my head, and I'm saying this not to promote gun violence,

691
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: but just as a metaphor, and they were like, you

692
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: have to purchase a map to have as decor in

693
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: your home. Otherwise it's over for you see him a map, George,

694
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,959
Speaker 1: what would I guess? You know, I think maybe something

695
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 1: you have a personal connection to, but that's not your

696
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,879
Speaker 1: current home, so not bush Wick. But if I had

697
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: like an old map of like my grandfather's like you

698
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: know town in Greece where he grew up and you know,

699
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 1: and it was like a vintage map from when he

700
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: was a child. Okay, but what if it had to

701
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: be a New York map? Okay, if it had to

702
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 1: be a New York map, that's a great question. I think. Again,

703
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,720
Speaker 1: I would try to so this is like a stretch obviously,

704
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 1: but I would try to find some personal connection where

705
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: it's like maybe I would go to like the Tenement

706
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 1: Museum and find like a map of Greek immigrants, Like

707
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,280
Speaker 1: I'm really like holding onto like some sort of personal

708
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: connection that would make it like either connected to like

709
00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:00,320
Speaker 1: my family or my heritage or like, you know, my

710
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 1: current life because you know, because I think the opposite

711
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: of the home depot fund is something that is like

712
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: that only you can appreciate. Yeah, totally, So mine would be, um,

713
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 1: it would be sort of West Side Story themed map

714
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: about you know, and it would it would map out

715
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 1: like where the Sharks live versus where the Jets live. Um,

716
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: and that would be my New York City map. Oh wait,

717
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 1: mine would be Sex in the City. Uh, sex in

718
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 1: the City locations that I actually changed my answer. I'm

719
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,479
Speaker 1: changing my answer offecial and it's Sex and the City.

720
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: Oh my god. The thing is that actually would be

721
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: if that were in your bathroom, I would be like, George,

722
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,959
Speaker 1: your genius, Like that would actually be incredible to court.

723
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: And I actually, I'm actually really disappointed myself for going

724
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 1: serious rather than going camp and that I was not

725
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: saying true to myself in that moment when I was

726
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 1: like looking for a way to honor my heritage, I

727
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 1: think what I do need to honor is Sarah Jessica

728
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:01,479
Speaker 1: Parker and the original Sex and the City. Oh my god, yeah,

729
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 1: I think you want, um like the street corner where

730
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 1: what's the episodes it's like in the meatpacking district when

731
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:12,280
Speaker 1: like Samantha gets into a fight with a drag queen. Yeah,

732
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 1: literally the single most I think you have to pinpoint

733
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 1: that block on the map, like the cupcake, like the

734
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: bed club and then oh god, oh my god, the

735
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: bed club the way I thought. I was like, that

736
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: is what it will be like when I'm cool and

737
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: living in New York. I will go to a club

738
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 1: where there are beds. Yeah. Yeah, I I also had

739
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 1: a weird attraction to that concept for nightlife. Yeah, it's

740
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 1: a very childish way to look at nightlife in a

741
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 1: fun way. Well, they're all I mean, I always think

742
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:52,720
Speaker 1: about this. Melissa Rich had, like she wrote a review

743
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 1: of in just like that, and she had a line

744
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: that was like talking about the original sex in the

745
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:59,439
Speaker 1: City and she described all of them as walking around

746
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 1: New York like they just got let out for recess.

747
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: And I thought that was like such a perfect encapsulation

748
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 1: of how these like forty year old women were acting

749
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: roaming around Manhattan. Yeah, that is very true. Um, Okay.

750
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 1: I have another sort of element of maps that I

751
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: would like to address, which is the treasure map. And

752
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: I'm like pirate pirates, treasure hunting, um explorers, like going

753
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: back to Columbus, Like there is a sort of settlers

754
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 1: of katan By. I mean, you gotta love a map

755
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: where everything is just totally fucking wrong too, which is

756
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 1: what a lot of those are where they draw like

757
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 1: like a cursive Z and they're like, this is South

758
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: America and you're like, oh no, They're like here's Massachusetts

759
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: and it's huge, Like ya at least are you know,

760
00:45:53,880 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 1: like like nice little exercises in Hubris geographic. I think

761
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,760
Speaker 1: the treasure map is like maybe the most like closest

762
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: to a queer map, because that is like you will

763
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 1: just have like a picture of a palm tree and

764
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: like a cluster of like monkeys drawn and it's like

765
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:15,879
Speaker 1: you're supposed to and there's a good line that goes

766
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 1: around that, and you're like, this is symbolic and when

767
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 1: I see it, I'll know it. But I won't know

768
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: it until I see it. It's not supposed to be

769
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: taken literally. Its supposed to be like interpreted. Yeah, And

770
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:28,919
Speaker 1: and you know, no matter what we think of Johnny Depp,

771
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 1: now when he was Captain Jack Sparrow, he was serving

772
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 1: patty fish, he was rocking that eyeliner, and he I

773
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: would have followed him on his treasure hunt. There's something

774
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: also about like, yeah, dotted line two X marks the spot,

775
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: Like the subtext is please tiptoe the whole time. They

776
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 1: don't say it, but you feel it. You feel it

777
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 1: oh god, yeah, okay, in a similar right gold gold,

778
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: It's it's not just gold. It's always like gold and

779
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: like weird necklaces and like a crown. Like there is

780
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: always a dress up element to finding the treasure, which

781
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 1: people don't talk about the dress up element because you

782
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: are like, oh, look at all these riches and literally

783
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,800
Speaker 1: someone's putting on a crown and someone else has like

784
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: a bunch of jewels and it's like that's dragged. Yeah,

785
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: they're like, look I found these high heels also, and

786
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 1: these panties kind of fit me. I mean, honestly, I

787
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 1: would love a drag race challenge that is a treasure hunt,

788
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 1: and that sounds like something that would be really good.

789
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 1: You're literally a producer now, okay, wow, I'm getting an

790
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: executive producer credit. It's so unfortunate whenever you find the

791
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 1: treasure and you're doing the dress up portion and then

792
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,879
Speaker 1: like somebody in your party like steps on the trap

793
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: that opens the door that when the like big monster

794
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 1: comes in, Like it's like, just let me dress up

795
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 1: in peace. Yeah. No, it was fun until you had

796
00:47:53,840 --> 00:48:00,040
Speaker 1: to run from like crocodiles. Yeah. Atlantis feels like a

797
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: math destination. I agree. What the hell is up with Atlantis?

798
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 1: My knowledge of Atlantis really starts and ends with the yes,

799
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: oh my god, any so formative? Yes not. I was

800
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: like when I saw that, I was like, well, that's

801
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 1: where we have to go on our next family vacation.

802
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 1: I will literally not go to college if that's what

803
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,399
Speaker 1: it takes to pay for it. Like I just need

804
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: a dolphin to like me more than anything. Yes. Well,

805
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: the other thing. The thing with Atlantis, as in like

806
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 1: the Last City of Atlantis is it's one of those

807
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 1: things where you're like, so, is someone gonna tell me

808
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 1: if this is real or not? Thank you so much

809
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 1: for saying that, because I was like, it's so sam

810
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 1: to say that, And I was like, I can't be

811
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 1: that dumb, but I am like, so, wait, why do

812
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 1: we all have this? Is it? Yeah? It's like a

813
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 1: mass delusion. It's not real, right, Like Okay. Also, then

814
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 1: I feel like when I was young and I found

815
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 1: out about Atlantis Resort, I was like, oh, like did

816
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: they find the lost city and then like renovate it.

817
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 1: I'm a little like the Last City of the it is.

818
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 1: I'm like it sounds so really like it makes sense,

819
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: Like it's like sure, I bet there was a city

820
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 1: that's now underwater on accident of course, and they're like,

821
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: we preserved the original mini golf course from the city

822
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: in Atlantis. Oh my god. Um okay. One more thing

823
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: I think is like in the beginning of a fantasy book,

824
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 1: the map is there, and that is like actually a

825
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: very straight one to me, where it's like you're literally

826
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,800
Speaker 1: making up a world in a book and like new characters,

827
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: and you like have to make it super literal. Like

828
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 1: it's like, why do you have to make the map

829
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,280
Speaker 1: so real? Like I'm just imagining all of this stuff,

830
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 1: And they're like, no, it's actually two miles from there

831
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 1: and there. It's wait, Sam, do you feel like, as

832
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: a super fan of Lord of the Rings, is that

833
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 1: something that comes up in Lord of the Rings a lot? Well,

834
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: they're like, I feel like all those books have the

835
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: map at the beginning, and it's like this is the

836
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: map of Middle Earth, and you're like, like, I actually

837
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:57,320
Speaker 1: ignore it because I'm like like there's a part of

838
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: me that wants to look at it and be like, oh,

839
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 1: this will help me understand like the distance, and I'm like, no,

840
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 1: I understand because the words tell me how tired they

841
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 1: are or how many days takes or whatever. The fun

842
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 1: Actually yes, and it's also because you have an imagination.

843
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 1: It's actually very like it really brings you down to

844
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 1: earth in a bad way. Were like, let me enjoy

845
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 1: this fantasy. I don't. Why are you trying to put

846
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 1: this on a map that's which is a human creation.

847
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: I mean we're talking hobbits here. Cape Blane chet is

848
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 1: literally glowing from her skin, and you want me to

849
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 1: look at a map as though we're like as though

850
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: we're like looking up directions to go to brunch. It's

851
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 1: so messed up. Let me believe, Let me believe in magic.

852
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 1: Lord of the Rings guy, I'm sorry, Yeah, no, no, Emmy,

853
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 1: are you know? It just feels like a little bit

854
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 1: of a like curveball for For Sam, it's really one

855
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 1: of his defining It's one of the things I learned

856
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:55,800
Speaker 1: early on doing this podcast with him because it was

857
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:58,439
Speaker 1: a reference point that kept coming up and in fact,

858
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 1: in terms of I would say like queer early queer

859
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: texts that were influential in his life. It was like

860
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: Frodo and Sam wise having a homorotic energy. Yeah. I

861
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,879
Speaker 1: was obsessed with it and still am honestly, it's uh,

862
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 1: it gets me. You know. I watched I've read like

863
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 1: Salmon froto fan Fix before and I was like, you

864
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 1: know this is hot and um heartwarming. Wow, it's very sweet.

865
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 1: I mean. My final my final question for you is

866
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 1: the following. It is the question globes. Globes, Yes, okay, yeah,

867
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: I think I agree. Yeah, I definitely would like to

868
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 1: know your your general instinct on global I love a globe.

869
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 1: I prefer a globe to a map, yes, because it

870
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: can be It's like it just let it be an

871
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:55,439
Speaker 1: art piece. Let's like appreciate the Earth and not try

872
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 1: to get from point A to point B. Just meditate

873
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 1: on the vastness of human of human existence. Yeah, I

874
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 1: actually think a globe is a sligh Okay, it's a

875
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 1: It's a tastefully anti flat earther object exactly, and you

876
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 1: know what it's in that sense, it is nodding to

877
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 1: science without fetishizing it. It's like, yes, this is what

878
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: the world looks like, but there isn't like a fucking

879
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:25,839
Speaker 1: you know, key and a compass and just like enjoy

880
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 1: it for what it is and guess what, it's more

881
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 1: accurate than a map too. So put that in your

882
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 1: pipe and smoke it. Also something so novel about just

883
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 1: like having a spherical object in your home, Like it's

884
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 1: like yes, because it's like we've seen things hang on

885
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 1: the wall, like we've seen like things be framed, but

886
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: a sphere just sort of displayed. Now that's something new

887
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: and it really is its own thing because you wouldn't

888
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 1: call it even though it's three dimension you wouldn't call

889
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: it a sculpture. God no, So it's not a it's

890
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 1: not a it's not wal art, it's not a sculpture.

891
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: It's also sort of halfway between an art piece and

892
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 1: a auctional thing. You can sort of pretend that you're

893
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 1: using it for something. I mean, you're like, oh, look

894
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 1: there's Nepal, right, and you know, if you really want

895
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 1: to bring the whole thing home, you keep a magnifying

896
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 1: glass nearby, or like you pretend like you're going to

897
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:17,280
Speaker 1: pick your vacation destination with the globe. What says spontaneity

898
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: more than putting your finger on a spinning globe. Oh,

899
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: next thing, you know you're in Slovenia. Gorgeous? That gorgeous

900
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:34,720
Speaker 1: is fully the fantasy to spin the globe and stop

901
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 1: it at a point and be like, that's where we're going,

902
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 1: That's that's true recklessness. Only then will that I be

903
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:49,879
Speaker 1: fully free when I can do that. Wow, I gotta

904
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 1: say this episode is uh, this episode really gave me

905
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 1: everything I needed today. Yeah, I feel like we It

906
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 1: was like every part of it, every chapter of it,

907
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 1: from the intro to the introductory banter to straight shooters,

908
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 1: to introducing the topic, to fully analyzing the topic in

909
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 1: an academic way in a way that could potentially be

910
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 1: in the running for a Peabody. Is is like everything

911
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 1: I want this podcast to be. And I am invigorated

912
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:23,359
Speaker 1: to spend the rest of my Sunday not watching football. Yeah.

913
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 1: And I actually think that one day, in our beautiful

914
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:32,839
Speaker 1: utopian future, the Peabody Awards will have as much um

915
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 1: fun implications as the Super Bowl. Yeah, why doesn't everyone

916
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 1: get their family together and get some halapenio poppers and

917
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:47,320
Speaker 1: watch the Peabody ceremony. Spoken word journalism deserves more, thank you?

918
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. Um, well, I mean should we do our

919
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 1: final segment then we can. Sorry, I didn't mean to

920
00:54:55,920 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 1: cut cut everyone off to honey, I got all day. Mean,

921
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 1: as mentioned, I'm not going to be a very for

922
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 1: any Super Bowl event. I mean, good luck getting back

923
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 1: into it when you've uh brought the conversation to a

924
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 1: screeching hole. No, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I've only had

925
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 1: a map for how to get out of this buying.

926
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 1: Oh brother, oh brother? Um, I said, let's do it. Okay,

927
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 1: let's sto a final segment, Sam, would you like to

928
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 1: introduce it? Sure? And your final segment is called Shoutouts,

929
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 1: and we pay homage to the great street tradition of

930
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 1: the radio shout out by shouting out to anything that

931
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 1: we are enjoying at all. So imagine it's two thousand

932
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 1: one year at t r L and you're shouting out

933
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 1: to your squad back home about anything that you like.

934
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:39,839
Speaker 1: And we will go first, George, do you have one?

935
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 1: I doo? Would you like me to go? Yes? Please? Okay,

936
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 1: what's up? Brooklyn? Everyone from Bushwick all the way to

937
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 1: Brooklyn Heights, and I'll say even anyone outside the borough

938
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:53,839
Speaker 1: of Brooklyn. We're talking coins, we're talking lebron To, We're

939
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 1: talking Manhattan, We're talking New York Stait, baby Blue, no

940
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 1: matter who. I want to give a quick shout out

941
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 1: to Mini golf, which is an activity I you'll never

942
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 1: believe this had never done in my absolute life until

943
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 1: this weekend. It was my first time ever holding a

944
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 1: golf a mini golf club. I don't know if they're

945
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 1: different than a normal golf club, because I certainly have

946
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 1: not been an actual golf course. They let me choose

947
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 1: the color of my golf ball. I chose a beautiful

948
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 1: royal blue. It was a deep row. I would I

949
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 1: think it would look really what you could dress it up,

950
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 1: dress it down, would look really great in a suit

951
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 1: or in a sort of cool punk rock outfit. And

952
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 1: then I was afraid that I was not going to

953
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 1: be good at it, because of course I didn't have

954
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 1: the experience. When I tell you, I sort of slave

955
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 1: the house down all day, and everyone was impressed with me,

956
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 1: and I went out being like, you know what, Maybe

957
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 1: mini golf is now in my repertoire as high up

958
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:47,320
Speaker 1: in my estimation as my favorite activity bowling. So my

959
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 1: thirties in the city of New York are all about

960
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 1: discovering all the suburban stuff that I was deprived of

961
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,919
Speaker 1: as a kid. And I am ready to play mini golf.

962
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 1: I'm ready to go to the arcade. I am ready

963
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 1: to go bowling, and I'm I need to have one

964
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:04,320
Speaker 1: of those pizzas where the crust has little moz realistics

965
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 1: on it, so I'll see you out on the field.

966
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 1: Who Wow, that was so so powerful and beautiful than you.

967
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 1: I love many golf. I can't believe this is your

968
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 1: first time playing it. I know it was my first time.

969
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 1: We really I have to say no offense to this

970
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 1: Red Hook venue which treated us so well. And actually

971
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 1: they had sort of just installed this almost laser tag

972
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 1: esque game and gave us a free go ahead at

973
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 1: it because we were being so loud and drunk that

974
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 1: they kind of wanted to put us in a silent room. Um,

975
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 1: but they treated us so well. But it was really

976
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 1: like a warehouse that they put stuff in. I mean,

977
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 1: there's something very I hate to use this term because

978
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 1: it's overused. There's something very limital space about it. Like

979
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 1: it really was like an unmarked warehouse. You go in

980
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 1: and it's all just in an empty room. You don't

981
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 1: even get like the charm of suburbia or even the

982
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 1: charm of like a venture capital funded Williamsburg space. Like

983
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 1: it really was in the middle of nowhere. We could

984
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 1: have been kidnapped, but I had a great time. Well

985
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 1: that's lovely. Um okay, okay, let me think I think

986
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 1: I have one. Not really, well, let's try it. What's up,

987
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 1: everybody out there in the world, from um Callie all

988
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 1: the way to the East Coast. I want to give

989
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 1: a huge shout out to that feeling when like you're

990
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 1: sick of all the music you've ever heard and you're

991
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 1: like like you're in this place where you're like, I

992
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 1: know I need something new, and I don't know why.

993
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 1: My capacity like why now I'm bored of everything? But

994
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 1: it's like a very it's a very wintery feeling that

995
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 1: I get, I guess once a year where I'm like, no,

996
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 1: I just need someone on Earth to put out an

997
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 1: album that I can obsess over. And that is sort

998
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 1: of where I'm at right now. And it's a space

999
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 1: that is it's a wanting feeling that is not normally

1000
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 1: what you would want to shout out on this podcast,

1001
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 1: but it is a real feeling and we need to

1002
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 1: acknowledge it. So I am currently open to new music

1003
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 1: and I am listening to stuff and I'm trying new

1004
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 1: stuff and I'm saying no, that's not right. Nope, that's

1005
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 1: not exactly what I need. But I'm going to keep trying.

1006
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 1: And it's a good place because I'm learning so much

1007
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 1: about these up and coming girls and there are so

1008
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 1: many musics out there and I love all of them.

1009
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 1: So shout out to waiting for new music and I

1010
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:28,439
Speaker 1: cannot wait to get obsessed with something soon. Xox Sam.

1011
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 1: I'm sorry I was. I feel that really hard. It's

1012
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 1: such a yeah, Sam, have you not become obsessed within

1013
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 1: new Kalala? I've only listened to it once and I

1014
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 1: liked it, but I haven't gotten fully in you. Yeah,

1015
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 1: I say give it a few more lestens because I

1016
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 1: really like it really invigorated me and it's like it

1017
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 1: almost feels like the indie version of Renaissance or something

1018
00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 1: like there's something about like putting it on from beginning

1019
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 1: to end and just letting sort of wash over you

1020
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 1: and it I she really like leaning into techno, Like

1021
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, there's something very fun about it. Well done,

1022
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 1: I'll do it. And this is Kalila, you said, k

1023
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 1: E l E l A. Yeah, I have to check

1024
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 1: this one out. Oh my god, Emmy, I'm telling you,

1025
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 1: I have been really, really on that train since and

1026
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 1: when I tell you, she delivers every time. Huge. Well

1027
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 1: I can't wait wait I'm excited, um, I mean whenever

1028
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 1: you are ready. I do just want to ask before

1029
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 1: we move on, what was the last UM album or

1030
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 1: artists that made you feel engrossed and satisfied. Okay, that's

1031
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 1: a great question. Let's see. I feel like, okay if

1032
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 1: you say Chromatica at least okay, Well, okay, I these

1033
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 1: there's a lot that I'm liking, but nothing that I'm

1034
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 1: like completely freaking for and like so like the Caroline Policheck,

1035
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 1: like I like her a lot, and she is like

1036
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 1: that album is coming out, and so there's like the

1037
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 1: five songs from it, and I just listened to them

1038
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 1: like over and over and over and to the point

1039
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 1: where I'm like, oh no, I'm not excited for the

1040
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 1: album because I've listened to this too much. I like

1041
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 1: is a writer, yeah, and everyoneined billions Like I'm like,

1042
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 1: I need to stop listening to this so I can

1043
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 1: enjoy it when it actually comes out. Wait, Sam, you

1044
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 1: just got into ethel Cane. I just got into ethel Cane.

1045
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 1: But it's too moody sometimes, like the song American teenager

1046
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 1: is so slay. But then sometimes I'm just like, Okay,

1047
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 1: this is beyond moody. What about the Scissor album? Do

1048
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 1: you feel like it's not been long enough that you're

1049
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 1: not constantly listening to it. It's been long enough, they're

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Speaker 1: not going to listen to it. I look back on

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Speaker 1: it fondly, but it also overwhelms me because it's so long,

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Speaker 1: and yeah, it's What about the Deborah Eisenberg l Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what about Deborah's new album? You know, I found that

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Speaker 1: to be really really inspiring actually, and she's experimenting, She's

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Speaker 1: experimenting with club beats and a way that she hasn't

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Speaker 1: done before. Yeah. I liked the sort of seventies disco

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Speaker 1: vibe that she was doing. Very jesse Ware exactly. It

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Speaker 1: was very jesse Ware. Wait, isn't there a jesse Wear album?

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Speaker 1: It's coming out in like a month or two. It's

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01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 1: coming out a month, and I think I'm going to

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Speaker 1: have an incredible spring in summer, of course, but right

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Speaker 1: now I'm I'm suffering. Interesting. Well, give it up for

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Speaker 1: Sam's musical Desert. Okay, now for real, I mean whenever

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Speaker 1: you are ready, Okay, Okay, Okay, um, what's up to

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Speaker 1: all the girls on my j V lacrosse team? Go Lions.

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Speaker 1: I'm you're representing for the fact that any croissant can

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Speaker 1: be warmed up and then be good. Um, because a

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Speaker 1: lot of croissants are bad at room tent, but most

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Speaker 1: of them, given a moment on a nonstick pan or

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Speaker 1: in the microwave, can really shine. Who wow. That is

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Speaker 1: so helpful to actually and its huge. It's like almost

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Speaker 1: like a kid's book, like there's something so like inspiring

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Speaker 1: where it's like, you're not bad, you just need to

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Speaker 1: be microwaved. I do god, because it's hard to find

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Speaker 1: a good croissant anywhere. And I had just not been

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Speaker 1: eating them because I was like, I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: have a C plus croissant. They're not like it's got

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Speaker 1: to be great. And then I learned that you can

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Speaker 1: warm up a C plus two it and a minus.

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Speaker 1: It really is crazy how this is. You know, this

1081
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Speaker 1: is one of my catchphrases that I tell all my mentees,

1082
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Speaker 1: and it's the following. It's all about butter. It's just

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Speaker 1: like that is all you need to do is like

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01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:46,919
Speaker 1: melt that butter out and then just like bite into

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Speaker 1: something that's mostly butter, and you'll be happy. Melt that

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Speaker 1: butter out, Mama. God when that when there was a

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Speaker 1: new Croissan place that opened by my apartment, that like

1088
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 1: got written up and then like had lines going around

1089
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 1: the blog and the way that was in big rating

1090
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 1: for me for a full like two months, just knowing

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Speaker 1: that was there and occasionally going, God, I love New York.

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Speaker 1: I love it. Well, I guess that's our episode. I mean,

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Speaker 1: thanks so much for doing the podcast. It was a

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Speaker 1: d light and thank you so much for having me.

1095
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 1: I've sweated from giggling so much, like my nose is

1096
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 1: running from giggling. It really was an especially giggly episode.

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Speaker 1: You were such an incredible guest and we are so

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Speaker 1: happy you made the time. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 1: I will come back to discuss cold cuts or whatever

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Speaker 1: subject you want anytime, absolutely all right, Well, everyone go

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Speaker 1: out there and don't read a map bye bye, like

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Speaker 1: on my favorite things if you want totally wow, that's

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Speaker 1: actually genius. I have to check this one out. Well,

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Speaker 1: I can't wait. I'm excited. I do really love cold

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Speaker 1: cuts and two in one shampoo and conditioner. Dick's Sporting

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Speaker 1: Goods and tailgating. Hello, been waiting your turn? Instructions. My

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Speaker 1: favorite things I do really love venture capital, ath leisure

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Speaker 1: brands and skiing. The three city run of Cancoon Boston, Philadelphia,

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Speaker 1: American Eagle Outfitters, maps, directions, true religion, jeans My favorite

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Speaker 1: things