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Speaker 1: of I Heart Radio. Hello and welcome inside the newest
Speaker 1: episode of Special Teams with Jason Smith and Mike Harmon,
Speaker 1: our podcast that looks back at specific years of sports
Speaker 1: history and what great teams did to become so noteworthy.
Speaker 1: You don't always have to be great. Sometimes you could
Speaker 1: be close to being great, and sometimes you could be
Speaker 1: not good at all. Very Special weeks we get to
Speaker 1: play with our format here a little bit. As last
Speaker 1: week we look back at what three Special Teams did
Speaker 1: during the NFL Draft, and we're gonna do it again
Speaker 1: this week and look at what three teams did in
Speaker 1: specific years in the NFL Draft and what made them
Speaker 1: so good afterwards. We're gonna start in the San Francisco
Speaker 1: forty Niners, coming off their second Super Bowl with Bill
Speaker 1: Walsh and Joe Montana, and they traded up in the
Speaker 1: first round to take wide receiver Jerry Rice. This could
Speaker 1: go down as the worst trade in New England Patriots
Speaker 1: history because you wouldn't think about it now, but this
Speaker 1: is the pay trips. They had a great year at
Speaker 1: eighty five, right, I mean, they had a good run
Speaker 1: until the end, until yes, and until until the end.
Speaker 1: Then it kind of, oh, no, we can use that
Speaker 1: wide receiver. So you kind of you kind of forget
Speaker 1: it because they did get to the Super Bowl. But man,
Speaker 1: if we had had Jerry Rice, who knows, you would
Speaker 1: never think of the Patriots making a bad Draft day
Speaker 1: trade now. But they make a trade with the forty
Speaker 1: Niners who move up in the first round. Uh, they
Speaker 1: swapped first round picks and Bill Walsh, head coach of
Speaker 1: the forty Niners, gives later picks to the Patriots because
Speaker 1: they wanted to draft Jerry Rice. Why did Bill Walsh
Speaker 1: want Jerry Rice. This is not because they did extensive scouting.
Speaker 1: This is not because they sent a guy down and
Speaker 1: watched every single Mississippi Valley State game that Jerry Rice
Speaker 1: was in. It's because late one night, he was dozing
Speaker 1: off watching TV when the sports anchor tees hey and
Speaker 1: coming up, we have highlights of Jerry Rice at Mississippi
Speaker 1: Valley State. Because Rice was kind of a cult figure
Speaker 1: back then. Look at this what this guy is doing
Speaker 1: at this really small college, and he saw the highlights
Speaker 1: of Jerry Rice, he decided I gotta go get this
Speaker 1: guy all because he woke up for it while dozing
Speaker 1: off at midnight watching TV. What if he had stayed asleep.
Speaker 1: What if he just decided on I need to see
Speaker 1: that guy, got scouting everything else because he woke up
Speaker 1: to watch Mississippi Valley State and Jerry Rice catching touchdowns.
Speaker 1: I believe from Willie Totton, who was the quarterback nicely done,
Speaker 1: that could have changed NFL history if he had just
Speaker 1: stayed sleeping. Pretty crazy how things change. And as we
Speaker 1: talked about in the first episode of Special Teams, looking
Speaker 1: back at the draft, I mean circumstance, changing of fortunes,
Speaker 1: changing of legacies, and how players and coaches are viewed likewise.
Speaker 1: Here all because you had a little bit of a
Speaker 1: an inflection in a local sports anchor's voice enough to
Speaker 1: jolt you from a nice slumber thinking about the greatness
Speaker 1: of Roger Craig and the other weapons at your disposal
Speaker 1: to go find Jerry Rice, the man widely referred to
Speaker 1: as the Goat. Well, but think about him with that
Speaker 1: Patriots uniform. That would have been pretty sweet back then.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that would have It would have been the
Speaker 1: old one with pat page really read. That would have
Speaker 1: been nice. Think about that. Yeah. Uh, So they make
Speaker 1: this move and there were a couple of things that
Speaker 1: led him to being able to get Jerry Rice because
Speaker 1: he didn't go you know, it's not like Jerry Rice
Speaker 1: went number two or number three. Overall, there were many
Speaker 1: teams that passed him by, including the New York Jets,
Speaker 1: who picked at number ten. And I'm gonna tell the story,
Speaker 1: even though it's very painful for me, because you want
Speaker 1: me to just pretend like I'm playing a violin. No, no,
Speaker 1: it's okay. So the Jets are picking a ten, right,
Speaker 1: and the Jets need a wide receiver, and they were
Speaker 1: completely torn between Jerry Rice and al Tune, Right, that's
Speaker 1: what they wanted. Al Tune, who was a really good
Speaker 1: receiver from Wisconsin, and they were split down the middle.
Speaker 1: And Rich Code tight who winds up screwing the Jets
Speaker 1: before he screwed them by being their head coach, was
Speaker 1: that their lead scouter. He was the guy that broke
Speaker 1: the tie, and he said, I don't think Jerry Rice
Speaker 1: can get separation at the next level. So they said,
Speaker 1: let's go with al Tune. And al Tune was the
Speaker 1: guy that al Tune had a good career for the Jets,
Speaker 1: so it's really good, you know, got hurt later on,
Speaker 1: had concussions, but he was still pretty good. But he
Speaker 1: wasn't Jerry Rice, but a thousand yards seasons mixed in
Speaker 1: nearly a thousand, nearly three straight years of a thousand yards.
Speaker 1: So they had just lost rich Code tights phone number.
Speaker 1: They could have had Jerry Rice, who instead hangs around
Speaker 1: until sixteen. Overall, Yeah, but something tells me that Rich
Speaker 1: Code type back of the day, in the era before
Speaker 1: cell phones, was standing next to that pay phone or
Speaker 1: standing next to that phone in his office as long
Speaker 1: as he possibly could. He might have slept in the
Speaker 1: office making sure he wasn't going to be omitted from
Speaker 1: any of these discussions. So Jets don't get him at
Speaker 1: number ten. And this really, I mean, this is just
Speaker 1: one of those things that tells you, well, you know, hey,
Speaker 1: that's so totally Jets. But the reason Rice was around
Speaker 1: for so long you talk about him not being able
Speaker 1: to get separation is because his forty time from the
Speaker 1: combine was disputed because it first got reported he he
Speaker 1: ran the forty and four point four or five seconds, which, okay,
Speaker 1: that's pretty good. It's not four two eights blazing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not like what we see here in Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: still four four speed. And when you're talking about four
Speaker 1: four because that's it was always the big thing for
Speaker 1: the longest four four speed, that was great. But then
Speaker 1: it got reported it could be as slow as four
Speaker 1: point seven one, which that's that. The guys don't get
Speaker 1: drafted that high when you run a four defensive getting
Speaker 1: close to that in this day and age, And I
Speaker 1: don't understand how that's not more exact. Look a look
Speaker 1: at the the guys, and I'll say it, if you're
Speaker 1: listening out there, and you a candid to combine standing
Speaker 1: there with your stop watching a dope. You don't need
Speaker 1: to do it anymore. They've got lasers that do know.
Speaker 1: They didn't have the sharks with laser beings, but you
Speaker 1: still had guys with how does so many people get
Speaker 1: get have such a wide range of what Jerry Rice
Speaker 1: is forty wide range of ages and aptitude. So it's
Speaker 1: like guys running the forty. There's a wide range of
Speaker 1: how quick that trigger finger is? I had to sneeze,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, so I started my wh you know, when
Speaker 1: is he really? And that goes back to the other
Speaker 1: evaluation though, when you add the human element of deciding
Speaker 1: when is he officially running his forty? Right, you got
Speaker 1: the start to move forwards and wait for the first
Speaker 1: step before you start what I mean, what are we
Speaker 1: looking at? So? I mean that could be the difference
Speaker 1: of point one point two seconds right there. But yeah,
Speaker 1: Jerry Rice always the joke was well the slowest, greatest,
Speaker 1: you know slow motion guy that was really moving a
Speaker 1: lot faster, kind of like you see in a bunch
Speaker 1: of your favorite Marvel movies. Well he was also that.
Speaker 1: He was also the guy one of the original guys
Speaker 1: where you could say about him. He had practice, sped,
Speaker 1: had games. You know. It was sometimes you see guys
Speaker 1: with games, and Jerry Rice had games. He had did
Speaker 1: a little rope a dope and during his career he
Speaker 1: talked to Jerry Rice and any media event he'll laugh
Speaker 1: and be like getting low guys to sleep, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: how many guys kind of come up limping, They're ne
Speaker 1: really not thinking the next play, their cornerbacks gonna slump
Speaker 1: off a little bit, and what do you do? You
Speaker 1: cut inside him and away you go. Part of me.
Speaker 1: I I get it because this was Jerry Rice was
Speaker 1: a real cult figure back in eighty five. He was
Speaker 1: the guy that late at night on Saturday on your
Speaker 1: local sports reporter was and hey, check out this crazy
Speaker 1: college football high like Jerry Rice and Willie Tott. Because
Speaker 1: Willie Tatt and throw like sixties. They were throwing the
Speaker 1: ball all over. It was like, oh my god, look
Speaker 1: at this team. And it was one of those of
Speaker 1: all the teams players across the country. Jerry Rice just
Speaker 1: so happened to get all this love because look at
Speaker 1: what he was doing. It was a small college. It
Speaker 1: wasn't nowadays where everybody would know Jerry Rice, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: so I get that part of it. But still when
Speaker 1: you're at the comment with your time and the guy
Speaker 1: you would have that number, you know what I mean. Look,
Speaker 1: everybody knew enough about Jerry Rice. He actually went number
Speaker 1: one overall in the USFL draft in eighty five by Birmingham.
Speaker 1: But of course he chose the NFL over the USFL.
Speaker 1: But also enough people knew about him at the end,
Speaker 1: you think that would be a pretty important thing for
Speaker 1: Jerry Rice's forty times. Let's figure that out what that is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but again it goes to even in with the lasers
Speaker 1: focused and everything and all the science behind it, we
Speaker 1: still have disputed forty numbers for guys like, well, they
Speaker 1: clocked him here and then it's it's it's a matter
Speaker 1: of point oh five or point oh two or whatever else.
Speaker 1: We're talking hundreds instead of here. We're talking full tens
Speaker 1: tense of a second that people are disputing. But it
Speaker 1: seemed like it turned out pretty well for him, So
Speaker 1: everybody else is ineptitude ruined him. The Jets would have
Speaker 1: ruined him. He would have never had this career. Never
Speaker 1: the other the Bengals passed on him too, Bess go
Speaker 1: before Jerry Rice. Well, but just but just looking at
Speaker 1: the wide receiver position, right, because that's that's where the
Speaker 1: Jets can at least say, all right, somebody else still
Speaker 1: had an opportunity, and Eddie Brown from Miami goes to
Speaker 1: the Bengals at So that is how Jerry Rice wound
Speaker 1: up a forty niner and maybe the worst trade the
Speaker 1: Patriots have ever made. You know. The Bears picked later
Speaker 1: in that round, drafted William the Refrigerator Perry who starred
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl that yes he did, in case
Speaker 1: you remember, Yes he did. He was, he had a
Speaker 1: he had a he had a decently large NFL career,
Speaker 1: He had a good run. He did he well, he
Speaker 1: was famous. He was refrigerator Perry. Legend. Uh. Coming up next,
Speaker 1: it's not just one draft what this next team did,
Speaker 1: but what they did in the first round, three drafts
Speaker 1: in a row that will likely never be matched. It's
Speaker 1: special teams with Jason Smith and Mike Harmon as we
Speaker 1: look back at special teams in the hat A Fell Draft.
Speaker 1: As we resume here on special teams, taking a look
Speaker 1: back at special teams in the NFL Draft, Our second
Speaker 1: week breaking down what teams did something so special and
Speaker 1: individual NFL drafts. Something a little bit different in this
Speaker 1: next segment we have for you is we're not just
Speaker 1: gonna look back at what one team did in one draft,
Speaker 1: but we're gonna look back at what one team did
Speaker 1: in the first round. Three consecutive drafts in a row
Speaker 1: back and one in the first round. The Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 1: made their dynasty of the nineties by taking Michael Irvin,
Speaker 1: Troy Aikman, and Emmett Smith all in the first round
Speaker 1: of their drafts. I would say there's been no more
Speaker 1: greater success of a three year running the draft than
Speaker 1: what the Cowboys did here and get in the triple
Speaker 1: and no, that's about as good as it cats, But
Speaker 1: you gotta dial it back to seven. I mean seven
Speaker 1: was a pretty pretty big year when you look at it,
Speaker 1: because in the first round they took a defensive tackle
Speaker 1: out of Nebraska named Danny Noonan. No no, no. And
Speaker 1: in the second round they took the quarterback out a
Speaker 1: Baylor named Ron Francis Ron Freill. Well, he did turn
Speaker 1: out to have a great career with the Penguins. Career,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you was good. I mean when the Whalers
Speaker 1: trade Ronnie Francis, that was very sick. So we had
Speaker 1: to make a make a point of well, here's a
Speaker 1: couple of guys that you know the names, but not
Speaker 1: for the reason of their success with the Dallas cow
Speaker 1: ron Francis and Alf Samuelson and look Danny Noon and
Speaker 1: never panned out. I mean he couldn't even get in
Speaker 1: the college. You have any money for college, Well, you
Speaker 1: know what, there's a way. You gotta start with the
Speaker 1: juco and then used to transfer rules to your advantage.
Speaker 1: He did win the Catty Tournament. I mean, have been
Speaker 1: able to get you a low Noble scholarship somewhere looks
Speaker 1: pretty good on the young person's resume. Winning the Caddy scholarship,
Speaker 1: that's right. But the Dallas Cowboys, who going into this draft,
Speaker 1: they knew they needed a receiver. They take Michael Erin
Speaker 1: out of Miami eleventh overall. I remember when he was taken,
Speaker 1: he came out the media. They had cameras on him
Speaker 1: and he goes Dallas Cowboys baby super Bowl bound and
Speaker 1: he's shaking hands out and they going, boy, this team
Speaker 1: was terrible. Really sudden to the Super Bowl. I liked
Speaker 1: Michael Irvin's bravado, and that turned out to be his
Speaker 1: entire NFL and post NFL career was pretty much what
Speaker 1: we know Michael Irvin for right, man, you go back
Speaker 1: in that draft, you had Sterling Sharp. People forget how
Speaker 1: good Sterling Sharp was. Well, people forget this draft is
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys needed a receiver and they would have
Speaker 1: been great no matter what, because the first three receivers
Speaker 1: taken in this draft that were taken before Michael Irvin
Speaker 1: were Tim Brown, then Sterling Sharp, and then Michael Irvin.
Speaker 1: They would have been fine with any of these those
Speaker 1: three fell there. Yes, you would have had yourself one
Speaker 1: hell of a player. Uh. And for Michael Irvin, I
Speaker 1: mean that's that's a guy, just a legend, bringing that
Speaker 1: Miami swagger on a whole other level. Uh. He always
Speaker 1: complimented my suit and tie combinations. It's and parties and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. You know, I was a little bold
Speaker 1: with some of the things I would wear. Not the
Speaker 1: purple shorts that I wear in the studio with you
Speaker 1: on a night on nightly, definitely night We're talking pin
Speaker 1: striped suits and bold ties. Yes, going next level. It's
Speaker 1: crazy that he was even a round out eleven. Because
Speaker 1: he had a phenomenal career at Miami, and especially because
Speaker 1: there were no quarterbacks taken that year until the third round,
Speaker 1: he was not the year of the quarterback. I mean,
Speaker 1: we'd only seen this a couple of times in the
Speaker 1: last thirty plus years in this draft, and in those
Speaker 1: were the only NFL drafts that didn't have a quarterback
Speaker 1: taken in the first round. The first quarterback drafted here
Speaker 1: third round, Tom Tupa, who was taken mainly because he
Speaker 1: was a punter, so you don't remember him. You can
Speaker 1: throw a little bit. Hey, we got a backup quarterback.
Speaker 1: We got our number one punter. Let's just do it.
Speaker 1: He's just one of those guys that I always said,
Speaker 1: you know, he played quarterback in college. He can throw
Speaker 1: the ball a little bit, so look out for the
Speaker 1: trick player. But yes, Chris Chandler was first quarterback off
Speaker 1: the board. I mean that, you just don't You'll never
Speaker 1: see that again. There's never gonna be an NFL draft
Speaker 1: ever again where a quarterback isn't taken in the first round.
Speaker 1: To mention, just go through and look at the players
Speaker 1: selected ahead of Irvin, many of who went on to
Speaker 1: great success. Neil Smith, Benny Blades, Paul Gruber. We already
Speaker 1: talked about Brown and Sterling Sharp. Andre Bruce was the
Speaker 1: number one pick over Andre Bruce. Want a bust, right,
Speaker 1: So you got him, but everything else kinda played out right,
Speaker 1: and the number one pick goes wrong, as it does
Speaker 1: so often. Good luck with that, Cincinnati. But it's one
Speaker 1: of those things that as you go through, you got
Speaker 1: a lot of stalwart players that were drafted in that
Speaker 1: first round. I remember Jerry Glanville saying about Andre Bruce,
Speaker 1: who was such a buss. He was he was like
Speaker 1: at the end of his rope with him uh at
Speaker 1: the Falcons and he said, you know, everybody in the
Speaker 1: NFL has size, strength, and speed, which is what Andre
Speaker 1: Bruce had. And then he said, but everybody else needs
Speaker 1: to bring something to the party, and like that was
Speaker 1: what it was. Like Andre Bruce did. He he was
Speaker 1: he was big, and he was an athlete, but he
Speaker 1: didn't have anything else that took to be an NFL star.
Speaker 1: Do you know One of my first media jobs was
Speaker 1: working with Jimmy Glanville really doing fantasy football analysis for
Speaker 1: something called The Football Network, which that was around for
Speaker 1: about eight minutes it was on. We were on Spike
Speaker 1: TV and we're doing a fantasy show and it was him.
Speaker 1: We had Danny Sherion and the odds maker forgetting the
Speaker 1: host name, but Glanville at the week they would have
Speaker 1: me on and we do sleepers and we'd go through
Speaker 1: these things. And he was obsessed with my cheekbones, and
Speaker 1: I was always trying to guess my ethnicity. Really, my
Speaker 1: deal was he took some shots at my weight. Is
Speaker 1: very weird. We got along very well. No, that's it's
Speaker 1: really odd. So the Cowboys start at the beginning of
Speaker 1: their dynasty by taking Michael ven eleventh overall. What happens
Speaker 1: that year, Well, they're terrible and they draft number one
Speaker 1: overall in nine they need a quarterback. What do they do.
Speaker 1: They take Troy Aikman out of U c. L A
Speaker 1: number one overall. That This is one of the legendary
Speaker 1: drafts in the NFL, as four of the first five picks,
Speaker 1: including Dion Sanders, wound up in the Hall of Fame. Aikman,
Speaker 1: to start things off with the Dallas Cowboys, was the
Speaker 1: only player at the draft this year. He's the guy
Speaker 1: that started the trend of going to the draft, Aikman
Speaker 1: was there, held the jersey. Suddenly it's it's not a
Speaker 1: bad idea. And now everybody goes to the draft when
Speaker 1: you can. So we're all the draft. And here's Troy Aikman,
Speaker 1: who started out as an option wishbone quarterback at Oklahoma,
Speaker 1: breaks his leg, loses his job because they got other
Speaker 1: better quarterbacks in Oklahoma. Goes to U C. L A.
Speaker 1: Now I'm a pocket passer, and here he is sure
Speaker 1: fire number one overall pick in the draft. But the
Speaker 1: big thing for this draft for the Dallas Cowboys was
Speaker 1: you had such a huge changing of the guard. Right.
Speaker 1: This is when Jerry Jones takes over the Dallas franchise.
Speaker 1: He got rid of Tom Lange and Jimmy Johnson comes in. Yes,
Speaker 1: Gil Grant your friend, he got many he does not
Speaker 1: like you. Um. He was no longer in charge of
Speaker 1: personnel Tech Shram had moved on, and it was a
Speaker 1: whole new world order for these Dallas Cowboys. And this
Speaker 1: is where things got really interesting because with Jimmy Johnson
Speaker 1: coming in head coach at Miami in the supplemental draft
Speaker 1: and the Spring of eighty nine, which happens after the
Speaker 1: NFL Draft, it's when you know you're able to pick
Speaker 1: a player who for some reason falls through the cracks,
Speaker 1: wants to leave school and get to the NFL. Early
Speaker 1: Steve Walsh, who was his quarterback at Miami, wanted to
Speaker 1: leave for the National Football League. Stef Walts is one
Speaker 1: of the most decorated quarterbacks in college football, and Jimmy
Speaker 1: Johnson took him at number two overall in the supplemental draft.
Speaker 1: So now you take Troy Aikman number one overall in
Speaker 1: the draft. Then later on in the supplemental draft you
Speaker 1: take Steve Walsh. Wait a minute, why are we doing this?
Speaker 1: Why are we taking another quarterback when we just drafted
Speaker 1: our franchise quarterback at number one. Here's the rub of this.
Speaker 1: Not only did he just take another quarterback, his own guy,
Speaker 1: so obviously did he really want Troy Aikman. What he
Speaker 1: did was, when you take a pick in the supplemental draft,
Speaker 1: you forfeit the same pick in the NFL draft next year.
Speaker 1: And because Dallas turned out to be one in fifteen
Speaker 1: in Aikman's rookie year, that turned out to be the
Speaker 1: number one overall pick in the draft. So the nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety they would have had the number one pick, but
Speaker 1: they lost it because they took Steve Walsh in the
Speaker 1: supplemental draft. You tell me a head coach who survives
Speaker 1: that we drafted a guy at number one overall, who's
Speaker 1: gonna be our quarterback? We go one in fifteen, I
Speaker 1: draft my her back from college to put him in.
Speaker 1: Who's really never gonna make it, doesn't have the arm
Speaker 1: strength of the National Football League. We are terrible. Aikman
Speaker 1: gets hurt and we finished at the bottom of the
Speaker 1: league and we don't even have the number one pick
Speaker 1: the next year. Tell me a head coach that survives that.
Speaker 1: No body today's day body. No. But it also shows
Speaker 1: at that point Jerry Jones first getting his hands around
Speaker 1: the organization. Uh, we got Troy, and um, I don't
Speaker 1: know the supplemental stuff, but I go to g n
Speaker 1: C and try to have you get something over the counter.
Speaker 1: Of course that's the way to go. I mean that
Speaker 1: that was I mean, just thinking about that back then,
Speaker 1: even I thought that was weird, and I was eighteen
Speaker 1: years old, and I'm going, that's weird. Why the hell
Speaker 1: would they do that? I mean, did they not like
Speaker 1: Troy Aikman Behind the scenes was Jimmy Johnson sending a message.
Speaker 1: I mean there's a million things that go through that process.
Speaker 1: You can tell that Jimmy Johnson wanted Steve Walsh to
Speaker 1: be his quarterback, want him to win the job. But
Speaker 1: he couldn't even though and got hurt and had a
Speaker 1: really bad rookie year. Like Aikman throws for nine touchdowns
Speaker 1: and eighteen picks, he didn't look like a star. He
Speaker 1: was owing eleven. You know, he got hurt in his
Speaker 1: first three years in the NFL. He was displaced at
Speaker 1: times as the starting quarterback. Luckily he made it too,
Speaker 1: which began the Cowboys run of excellence. I mean he
Speaker 1: wouldn't make it now after those injuries. Teams would cut
Speaker 1: bait and go this guy can't stay healthy for three years.
Speaker 1: We got to move on from him. Troman's just an
Speaker 1: injury played quarterback. But this shows you, Steve Walsh, how
Speaker 1: ill equipped he was for the NFL. With all of
Speaker 1: Aikman's injuries and the fact that you have your head
Speaker 1: coach who basically hand picked you to say coming and
Speaker 1: win this job, you still couldn't be the quarterback of
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. Well, they got a good haul for
Speaker 1: him when they traded him first, second, and third round
Speaker 1: picks for Steve Walsh by the New Orleans was out
Speaker 1: of the Oh my good that was that trade went down.
Speaker 1: I'm like, again, I'm eighteen years old, going, that's a
Speaker 1: bad trade. I knew I had a future. Want you
Speaker 1: were ready, that's what you're giving up for Steve Walsh.
Speaker 1: For Steve Walsh who couldn't throw it more than twenty yards.
Speaker 1: Steve Walsh, No, he uh struggling. You know, he had
Speaker 1: a lot of also with the Bears. He had a
Speaker 1: lot of moxie in college and he won and it
Speaker 1: was part of moxie. This was the heyday of the
Speaker 1: of of the Miami Hurricanes, the national championship teams with
Speaker 1: all the stars on it, all the star power Jimmy
Speaker 1: Johnson's teams, and and of course he's the quarterback. He
Speaker 1: gets a lot of credit for it. But I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, it's not like anybody else would really run
Speaker 1: for Steve Walsh at that point. And normally a shrug
Speaker 1: and go, yeah, they're done. The first, second, and third
Speaker 1: pick you wind up get. I mean that that's just
Speaker 1: you just stepped into a few were the Dallas Cowboys there.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're sitting there and going all right, and
Speaker 1: eight he had three thousand yards and twenty nine touchdown
Speaker 1: and twelve picks. He could be that guy for you.
Speaker 1: I would love to see the sales job that Jerry
Speaker 1: Jones did to get that trade to go through in
Speaker 1: all serious is I mean, because if you were to
Speaker 1: tell me that he would have just gotten a one
Speaker 1: and gotten a numb one back for him, you would
Speaker 1: have shrugged and Okay, cool, they don't have the number
Speaker 1: one overall pick. But look that they were able to
Speaker 1: get and obviously we'll get that in a moment. But
Speaker 1: if you were able to recoup just the first rounder,
Speaker 1: you win. But to add an additional second and third
Speaker 1: and then be able to spin those off for another
Speaker 1: more parts, I mean, just great work. You wonder what
Speaker 1: happened to that GM acumen years and that's I mean.
Speaker 1: Do you think about the Cowboys were still able to
Speaker 1: build their dynasty after going through that, and now to
Speaker 1: get to because now you have Aikman in place. Look,
Speaker 1: Aikman got hurt. He was not good for a few years,
Speaker 1: and it really took a while. You get to the
Speaker 1: draft and some of the players that the Cowboys could
Speaker 1: have had at the number one overall pick are Cortez
Speaker 1: Kennedy Hall of Famer, junior Sayale, hall of famer. You
Speaker 1: know they could have could have had Jeff George, sure
Speaker 1: could have had Richmond Webb. You know, it was great
Speaker 1: for many years there. There there were some great draft
Speaker 1: picks there that were available at the top. Now, the
Speaker 1: way the draft went was Jeff George number one overall,
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Blair Thomas Jets more on him in a second,
Speaker 1: to the Jets number two running back out of Penn
Speaker 1: State than it went Kennedy, Keith McCanns junior sayal, those
Speaker 1: are your first five picks. They were all there for
Speaker 1: the Dallas number six with Mark Carrier. Yeah then he
Speaker 1: and he had a great year too, he played well,
Speaker 1: and they were all there for the Dallas Cowboys. Right.
Speaker 1: But in showing you how things can go your way
Speaker 1: even when you screw it up, all right, here's how
Speaker 1: things go away, even when you screw it up. So
Speaker 1: that's where the Cowboys would have been in. They don't
Speaker 1: pick their their only pick is at number seventeen. So okay,
Speaker 1: remember go to pick number one overall. Didn't do it?
Speaker 1: This is when they drafted Emmett Smith. Why did Emmett Smith,
Speaker 1: who turned into probably on anybody's list, the third best
Speaker 1: running back in the history of the National Football League
Speaker 1: Because everybody's got either Barry Sanders or Jim Brown ahead
Speaker 1: of him. Somebody would have Walter Payton to better recognize
Speaker 1: guys that can throw and would run you over. Yeah,
Speaker 1: were you talking about you know, three times Super Bowl champion,
Speaker 1: all time NFL rushing leader, You talking about that against
Speaker 1: the world? It was? It was, alright, So at worst
Speaker 1: he is the fourth best running back, all right. Nobody
Speaker 1: thought he was a high pick because scouts thought he
Speaker 1: was too small and he was too slow for the NFL.
Speaker 1: He didn't have that. He had a great year at Florida,
Speaker 1: a great career Florida, but he wasn't well. Our mouths
Speaker 1: are watering over this guy. Dallas went into this draft saying,
Speaker 1: we have to get a running back. Right. They had,
Speaker 1: they had the wide receiver, they had the quarterback. They thought,
Speaker 1: we're still trying to figure things out with Achman and
Speaker 1: Steve Young at this point and Steve Walsh at this point,
Speaker 1: but now we need the running back. Blair Thomas was
Speaker 1: by far and away the best running back on the
Speaker 1: board at a Penn State. He's the guy everybody wanted.
Speaker 1: Blair Thomas was the guy because the Cowboys don't have
Speaker 1: that early pick. They don't take Blair Thomas when you
Speaker 1: know they would have taken him, and could he have
Speaker 1: turned out to have a different career if he wasn't
Speaker 1: playing on the Jets. You can say that from any players,
Speaker 1: but sure, should we do a podcast that's all the guys.
Speaker 1: You couldn't do that. What if they'd gone anywhere but
Speaker 1: the Jets and maybe maybe with the Cowboys offensive line,
Speaker 1: Blair Thomas would have been great, But we just know
Speaker 1: what they did on the on the field, and Blair
Speaker 1: Thomas was an incredible bust. The thing is he was
Speaker 1: the right pick. Everybody had him as that good a player.
Speaker 1: I mean, everybody thought he was that good. So if
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are picking number one overall they need a
Speaker 1: running back, they're taking Blair Thomas. So he eventually years, years, years,
Speaker 1: long after the Yets just started years. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: his his breakthrough game was one of the worst Jets
Speaker 1: losses ever. Blair Thomas and in his second year he
Speaker 1: ran for hundred twenty five yards against your Bears on
Speaker 1: Monday Night football, and I vividly remember Dan Deardorf saying,
Speaker 1: two minute warning, the Jetropolitans have the ball, barring disaster,
Speaker 1: It'll be a pipe plane ride back to Gotham for
Speaker 1: Bruce Coslic and the Jets. And what happens. Blair Thomas fumbles,
Speaker 1: the Bears tie it, and they went on the final
Speaker 1: play of overtime, Cap Bozo and Jim Harbaugh, and I
Speaker 1: still can't think about that game. It was I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't think about that. Right. It was awful. I'll
Speaker 1: give you a fifth month now. That game was just terrible.
Speaker 1: That was absolutely awful. Five yards to carry as a rookie, Yes,
Speaker 1: that's what I mean. He stunk. Uh, they would have
Speaker 1: taken him number two, and the Jets would have had
Speaker 1: somebody else. Maybe they would have had a Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame player. So the Cowboys then they don't pick until seventeen.
Speaker 1: So again here's how things work out for them. The
Speaker 1: guy that Cowboys wanted at that point was linebacker James Francis.
Speaker 1: Al Right, he's a guy went to Baylor, he was
Speaker 1: a guy on their board. However, Cincinnati took James Francis
Speaker 1: at twelve. So now the Cowboys are stuck. What are
Speaker 1: we gonna do when we get down We're picking at seventeen.
Speaker 1: I have no idea what we want. He wasn't even
Speaker 1: their plan, all right, Emmett Smith wasn't even their plan. Still,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys when they pick, they trade up to seventeen
Speaker 1: with the Pittsburgh Steelers because at that point they figure, well,
Speaker 1: let's get the running back, let's get Emmett Smith. So
Speaker 1: they trade with the Steelers and they draft Mt. Smith.
Speaker 1: The Steelers who probably would not have drafted Emtt Smith
Speaker 1: because at that point they had Tim Worley and Barry
Speaker 1: Foster I think was a rookie on the team be
Speaker 1: a couple of years for Barry Foster was really good.
Speaker 1: So they're probably thinking, we're okay here with Worley and
Speaker 1: Barry Foster, we're not gonna take Emma Smith. Can you
Speaker 1: imagine the Pittsburgh Steelers with Emmitt Smiths just been drafted, right,
Speaker 1: he was a year before that, you know, and he
Speaker 1: was gonna be decent out of Georgia. And can you
Speaker 1: imagine what the Steelers would have been like with Emmett
Speaker 1: Smith throughout the nineties of the Dallas Cowboys. So look
Speaker 1: at all these things that happened for the Cowboys. They
Speaker 1: lose their number one overall pick that had they got it,
Speaker 1: they would have taken Blair Thomas. Then they wanted James Francis,
Speaker 1: who gets taken. So they trade up with the Steelers
Speaker 1: who don't want Emmett Smith, and they wind up getting
Speaker 1: Emtt Smith. That is what you call a horseshoe appropriate
Speaker 1: in Dallas. Right, you are lucky and it all worked out. Look,
Speaker 1: they made the trade up to go get the guy.
Speaker 1: So give him credit for recognizing, hey, we've got to
Speaker 1: go get him. You look at the next couple of picks.
Speaker 1: Tony Bennett out of Mississippi goes to the Packers, Then
Speaker 1: Darryl Thompson, running back out of Minnesota goes to the Packers,
Speaker 1: and then the Falcons take Steve Broussard out of Washington State.
Speaker 1: Before Pittsburgh selects at twenty one with the Dallas trade pick,
Speaker 1: they take Eric Green the tight end. So out of liberty. Liberty, liberty, yeah,
Speaker 1: liberty nicely done a lot of that stuff. I mean,
Speaker 1: he got two more running backs go right there, So
Speaker 1: you know, could have been major fortunes changed, and I
Speaker 1: guess all that luck happened in those three years. That
Speaker 1: was the first. That was my first deal with the
Speaker 1: guy downstairs. And uh, I lost my first soul, but
Speaker 1: luckily in my hor Crocks I got no that was
Speaker 1: I knowed the question have made all these like that?
Speaker 1: If you were to have, oh this is a sports
Speaker 1: talk radio, a bit for the agent, and if you
Speaker 1: were to split Jerry's soul, it's Baltimore and to horcrux
Speaker 1: is where would you find them? Look Jerry Jones, when
Speaker 1: when he came into the NFL, he was was a
Speaker 1: breath of fresh air because he came in. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do it my way. I'm gonna get rid of my
Speaker 1: old coach. I'm gonna bring in the new coach. Then
Speaker 1: gonna get rid of that coach. I'm gonna bring in
Speaker 1: another coach. Tom Landry's hat. He did well. He did, yes,
Speaker 1: he did, and but we had never seen anybody like
Speaker 1: him owner wise, And you know, here he is years later,
Speaker 1: and he's still as influential an owner as ever. And
Speaker 1: he turned the Cowboys into champions and it's been a
Speaker 1: long time since they got back there. But there's been
Speaker 1: no owner who is gained more headlines and had more
Speaker 1: influence than Jerry Jones. He came in and changed the
Speaker 1: National Football Yeah, I mean you look at you build
Speaker 1: Jerry World and all the stadiums that come there after.
Speaker 1: Talk about the influence of how the league expands and
Speaker 1: where their business options lie. Look at how influential he
Speaker 1: was to making things happen in Los Angeles and bringing
Speaker 1: the Rams and Chargers there. I mean, that was a
Speaker 1: lot of his doing as the most influential guy. Looking
Speaker 1: at that powerhouse stadium and the brand that is the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys and really for us, I mean one of
Speaker 1: the more entertaining figures in all of sports, and that
Speaker 1: run Michael Irvin, Troy Aikman, Emmett Smith now unmatched in nflster.
Speaker 1: I just that's on Thomas thing. I just you know,
Speaker 1: it's funny drafted Jeff George number one. If they'd end
Speaker 1: the number one, I mean, look forget about We're done
Speaker 1: with the kid, dude. Let let me just end right here.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at all the stats on the Pro Football
Speaker 1: Reference of the first round picks that they had for
Speaker 1: their NFL careers. Like here's the first round pick and
Speaker 1: here's the stats of their career. Right, so you look
Speaker 1: and see Jeff George all right, you know, uh, you
Speaker 1: know in his career thousand yards passing, dur touchdowns. You know,
Speaker 1: that's what you get from an Okay quarterback. You know,
Speaker 1: Blair Blair Thomas. I look at him yards for his
Speaker 1: career and seven touchdowns. Everybody else has zero's next to
Speaker 1: their name. And then you get all the way down.
Speaker 1: Emmett Smith carries yard touchdowns, three thousand, two hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty four yards receiving. I mean it's it's like you look, you,
Speaker 1: here's all these guys and then here's Emmett in mock
Speaker 1: you by not putting up the defensive stats and a boot.
Speaker 1: So there it is. There is part to the Triplets
Speaker 1: being trafted by the Dallas Cowboys. Who is left in
Speaker 1: our final installment of Special Teams NFL Draft You will
Speaker 1: find out next this next team Special Teams. The podcast
Speaker 1: with Jason Smith and Mike Harmon didn't so much do
Speaker 1: something special as they had to avoid fans not liking
Speaker 1: what they did in order to do special things. Is
Speaker 1: that a good way to describe it? I think that
Speaker 1: about sums it up nicely. In the Cleveland Browns rafted
Speaker 1: number one overall and they took Tim Couch, who, coming
Speaker 1: out of Kentucky with his army. Everybody thought Tim Couch
Speaker 1: was the best quarterback prospect in college football, wide open
Speaker 1: offense and the welcome back to the Browns as an
Speaker 1: entity in the National Football League. This was going to
Speaker 1: be the face of the new, newly constituted, resurrected Cleveland
Speaker 1: Browns franchise. After that happened, this is where things went heywire.
Speaker 1: The Eagles picked second, they needed a quarterback. However, they
Speaker 1: made a big run publicly they're fans wanting Ricky Williams,
Speaker 1: which I never understood because they had do Stanley, who
Speaker 1: was really good. Staley was coming off a season in
Speaker 1: which he had fift hundred total yards over a thousand
Speaker 1: arts rushing. He was twenty three years old. Alright, Deuce
Speaker 1: Staley was phenomenal. But I don't know why there was
Speaker 1: this big push that the Eagles and their fans wanted
Speaker 1: Ricky Williams. But they wanted Ricky Williams, and Andy Reid,
Speaker 1: then head coach of the Eagles, decided, yeah, it's nice
Speaker 1: you want Ricky, but we're gonna go at number two
Speaker 1: and draft. Where's he from? Where's he from? Where? Syracuse?
Speaker 1: Donovan McNabb, Last time you've been able to say anything
Speaker 1: so proudly? Uh No, we we won the Camping World
Speaker 1: Bowl two years ago. The Camping will come on, man,
Speaker 1: Camping World. Forgot about the Camping World World, Bloody, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: A couple of appearances in the Pinstripe Bowl, Yeah, every day.
Speaker 1: The Pinstripe Bawl was our home for a couple of years.
Speaker 1: It was. But McNabb goes number two overall and immediately
Speaker 1: Eagles fans boo the pick at the draft. Look, Eagles fans,
Speaker 1: Jets fans, no matter what happened at the NFL draft,
Speaker 1: those fans are not happy and they booed McNabb and
Speaker 1: it became a touchstone moment in the NFL Draft. You'll
Speaker 1: still see it later. And I hated Philadelphia at that
Speaker 1: point because McNabb was my guy. Sure was Syracuse. He
Speaker 1: was fantastic. He got us to the Orange Bowl senior year.
Speaker 1: I mean, we got waxed by Florida, but I mean
Speaker 1: we would Syracuse in the or and made sense Orange
Speaker 1: Man in the Orange Bowl. But I mean we got
Speaker 1: us to the Orange Bowl. I mean, we were in
Speaker 1: the bleeping Orange Bowl. Man, we had never played on
Speaker 1: in a game that high, and he had done that
Speaker 1: for us. Then I started thinking, Okay, maybe we underachieved
Speaker 1: because he goes number two overall. We should have done
Speaker 1: other things the other years. But still he got We
Speaker 1: got to the Orange Bowl and he winds up going
Speaker 1: number two overall. He's my guy, and the Eagles fans
Speaker 1: can't stand him. They wanted Ricky Williams. Man, that was
Speaker 1: the guy Staley, But that was the guy everybody knew. Right,
Speaker 1: Charlie Garner was leaving, he was gone and moved on
Speaker 1: to to San Francisco. You have do Staley. Yeah, that's fine.
Speaker 1: You wanted the new shiny toy. You wanted the guy
Speaker 1: with the dreads. He wanted the guy with all the records,
Speaker 1: all the hype, all the curiosity. He he was the
Speaker 1: story of that draft, right, as evidenced by the trade
Speaker 1: that ended up defining the draft. But when you look
Speaker 1: at what Philadelphia wanted, Donovan McNabb was not top on
Speaker 1: the list. I don't know that they should have been
Speaker 1: as exciting. I mean, I love my guy Rodney Pete,
Speaker 1: but between he coy, Dentoner and Bobby Hoyne. You didn't
Speaker 1: exactly have a murderers row of the Andy Reid knew
Speaker 1: what they needed. It's like, yeah, we don't need another
Speaker 1: good running back, we'd heat a quarterback. Because mcdab was
Speaker 1: also my guy that I ended up going to s
Speaker 1: in Chicago, right in downtown Chicago, one of the historic
Speaker 1: buildings in a great school. My second choice if I
Speaker 1: decided to continue beating myself up and trying to figure
Speaker 1: out how to play football with my diminutive, diminutive um
Speaker 1: fire plug type body are very fire plug. Mont Carmel
Speaker 1: was going to be the choice. I would have been there,
Speaker 1: just ahead of Donovan McNabb, but the idea being no,
Speaker 1: it's for me. It was done. But Mount Carmel was
Speaker 1: a school always kept an eye on and what they
Speaker 1: were doing. And McNabb was a guy that was a
Speaker 1: Chicago legend for what he did at that school. And
Speaker 1: then he goes to Syracuse to keep an eye on
Speaker 1: him and you're watching him play and now you've got
Speaker 1: him on this big stage like all right, here we go,
Speaker 1: and they when the Eagles selected him, and that an
Speaker 1: initial You can check all the old Chicago returns of
Speaker 1: what happened when Donald mcnabgo Who was like, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: what is what is going on here? So yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's become one of the more famous spots of the
Speaker 1: last twenty plus years. Look what he did in his
Speaker 1: decade as the Eagle starting quarterback. He got them to
Speaker 1: the playoffs eight times, right, won the NFC East five times,
Speaker 1: got to five NFC Championship games, and assue uper Bowl.
Speaker 1: He threw for more than thirty thousand yards to touchdowns,
Speaker 1: three thousand yards rushing, twenty rushing touchdowns. The guy could
Speaker 1: do it all. But this is the most interesting part
Speaker 1: about mcnapp. Despite all of that, he never really got
Speaker 1: past being booed as a draft pick, not from him,
Speaker 1: but from the way he was treated by Eagles fans.
Speaker 1: Even though they retired his number. You know, they still
Speaker 1: cheered when he did great things. He still had that
Speaker 1: contentious relationship because not all the time would he say
Speaker 1: the right things. But that happens times with the quarterback.
Speaker 1: But usually when you're playing well and you're achieving, they
Speaker 1: let it go because you're still doing well on the field.
Speaker 1: But it's like he never really got that love that
Speaker 1: he should have gotten from the Eagles fans, And it
Speaker 1: goes all the way back to the draft because a
Speaker 1: large portion of the fan base they were so wrapped
Speaker 1: up in wanting Ricky Williams that when he came, it's like,
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna forgive him. He's never gonna be my
Speaker 1: guy because I wanted somebody else. Even though Ricky Williams
Speaker 1: didn't nearly have the NFL career then McNab had. Sometimes
Speaker 1: you just don't get past that. And I don't know
Speaker 1: the that relationship with him and the fans ever got
Speaker 1: past that moment. No, I mean it just certainly have
Speaker 1: seen it in other comments even in his post playing career,
Speaker 1: where there still seems to be that distance that never
Speaker 1: really healed. Go back to draft, I mean, it's the
Speaker 1: biggest night of your life, right, this is what's changing you.
Speaker 1: It's setting up your family when you're drafted number two overall.
Speaker 1: Back then, the kind of money that you were getting
Speaker 1: as a number two overall pick, I mean you're talking
Speaker 1: generational wealth. So in theory, it's the greatest moment of
Speaker 1: your life. You're you're recognized as one of the best
Speaker 1: in the game. There should be a city waiting to
Speaker 1: throw rose pedals at your feet, and instead you're getting booed,
Speaker 1: not only at the draft but at local establishments. The
Speaker 1: poison pens are out of what are we doing? You
Speaker 1: had it set up, you could go pick this running back,
Speaker 1: this once in a lifetime workhorse guy. And and again
Speaker 1: at the time the NFL, other than a Dan Marino
Speaker 1: and Bred Farve and a few other guys, you weren't.
Speaker 1: You weren't throwing the ball around the yard necessarily the
Speaker 1: same way, right, So having the running back I get
Speaker 1: it to a point, but this was your new face
Speaker 1: of the franchise and not embracing it and trusting that
Speaker 1: the brass there knew what they were doing just made
Speaker 1: no sense and obviously went on to a fantastic career.
Speaker 1: And the other part is you can look back, and
Speaker 1: if you're Andy Reid, I would say to the eagle stands,
Speaker 1: I go look at that. Here. There were five quarterbacks
Speaker 1: taken in the first twelve picks. Okay, five the first picks.
Speaker 1: Here's who they were. Tim Couch We mentioned him, right,
Speaker 1: he was out of the NFL. Never did anything, really,
Speaker 1: he was out in a couple of years. Then you
Speaker 1: had McNabb. You had Dante Culpepper, who had a good career,
Speaker 1: but not the career that McNabb flashed a bit unfortunately,
Speaker 1: couldn't get right right physically, always carried more on his
Speaker 1: frame and never was able to recover from the injury. Uh.
Speaker 1: And he's the reason Nick Saban never went back to
Speaker 1: the NFL. Achille Smith, who we talked about last week
Speaker 1: and podcast Who Is Best Serie threw three touchdowns. I
Speaker 1: think he had a good run here except not at all.
Speaker 1: And then Kate mcmoun who was out of the league
Speaker 1: by two thousand and two. Day, we get all of
Speaker 1: those five picks and look, we got the best one
Speaker 1: and it was a quarterback, and still it wasn't really enough. Crazy, right,
Speaker 1: I like that you we even though we were talking
Speaker 1: about the Eagles, and uh, you get because you kind
Speaker 1: of blamed him. You started with Syricus with the Eagles,
Speaker 1: and I could tell that you as your voice kind
Speaker 1: of shifted my guy. You never accepted my guy. You know,
Speaker 1: he was great. I interviewed him once when I was
Speaker 1: at NFL Network. He sat down with us to do
Speaker 1: a fantasy hit and we started talking and I said,
Speaker 1: I'm Syracuse to you know, ninety two, and he was, oh, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I said, you know, um, you know, I'm gonna try
Speaker 1: to get you back to Syracuse as a head coach.
Speaker 1: He goes, oh no, no, I couldn't be a head coach.
Speaker 1: Maybe strength the conditioning coach. I go, I gotta get
Speaker 1: you back there. Sign you on right now. I'm like,
Speaker 1: all right, I'll get you there. I just gotta get
Speaker 1: back there. But it just didn't happen. The other thing
Speaker 1: with mcna of his, I mean he took a lot
Speaker 1: of big hits other than a couple of seasons, you know,
Speaker 1: two thousand five, two thousand six. We always go back
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl and you'll have the astros on that.
Speaker 1: But for the most part, be he showed up on Sundays. Right.
Speaker 1: He might have been banged up here ad injuries out there. Right,
Speaker 1: we always have like Ben Roethlisberger, the you're gonna have
Speaker 1: the asterisk on him and then side he's gonna go.
Speaker 1: He's gonna give it a go. But some tremendous runs,
Speaker 1: some tremendous seasons along the way. But yeah, that the
Speaker 1: booing on Draft night every April, it becomes Hey, remember,
Speaker 1: let's take a look back, and that's part of the
Speaker 1: reason he finds himself in the list of Special teams,
Speaker 1: because that is a draft that you mentioned the five guys,
Speaker 1: only one really gave you a career worth writing more
Speaker 1: than two or three paragraphs about a six time pro
Speaker 1: bowler who was also the big East offensive player of
Speaker 1: the Dead Kate of the sure no question. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: that's our look back, our two week look at what
Speaker 1: some special teams did in the NFL Draft. I'm Jason Smith,
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