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Thanks ahead of time for your support. 0:00:33.080 --> 0:00:46.760 And now it's showtime. Welcome to Special Teams, a production 0:00:46.840 --> 0:01:04.480 of I Heart Radio. Hello and welcome inside the newest 0:01:04.520 --> 0:01:07.479 episode of Special Teams with Jason Smith and Mike Harmon, 0:01:07.720 --> 0:01:10.480 our podcast that looks back at specific years of sports 0:01:10.520 --> 0:01:14.399 history and what great teams did to become so noteworthy. 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:16.600 You don't always have to be great. Sometimes you could 0:01:16.600 --> 0:01:18.920 be close to being great, and sometimes you could be 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:21.520 not good at all. Very Special weeks we get to 0:01:21.560 --> 0:01:23.920 play with our format here a little bit. As last 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:26.760 week we look back at what three Special Teams did 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:29.760 during the NFL Draft, and we're gonna do it again 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:32.200 this week and look at what three teams did in 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:35.920 specific years in the NFL Draft and what made them 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:42.480 so good afterwards. We're gonna start in the San Francisco 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:45.480 forty Niners, coming off their second Super Bowl with Bill 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:48.640 Walsh and Joe Montana, and they traded up in the 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:53.640 first round to take wide receiver Jerry Rice. This could 0:01:53.640 --> 0:01:56.919 go down as the worst trade in New England Patriots 0:01:56.920 --> 0:01:59.560 history because you wouldn't think about it now, but this 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:02.080 is the pay trips. They had a great year at 0:02:02.080 --> 0:02:04.400 eighty five, right, I mean, they had a good run 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:07.480 until the end, until yes, and until until the end. 0:02:07.520 --> 0:02:09.760 Then it kind of, oh, no, we can use that 0:02:09.800 --> 0:02:12.360 wide receiver. So you kind of you kind of forget 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:14.560 it because they did get to the Super Bowl. But man, 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:16.840 if we had had Jerry Rice, who knows, you would 0:02:16.840 --> 0:02:18.799 never think of the Patriots making a bad Draft day 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:21.480 trade now. But they make a trade with the forty 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:24.639 Niners who move up in the first round. Uh, they 0:02:24.680 --> 0:02:28.000 swapped first round picks and Bill Walsh, head coach of 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:31.919 the forty Niners, gives later picks to the Patriots because 0:02:32.240 --> 0:02:35.200 they wanted to draft Jerry Rice. Why did Bill Walsh 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:39.160 want Jerry Rice. This is not because they did extensive scouting. 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:41.440 This is not because they sent a guy down and 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:45.079 watched every single Mississippi Valley State game that Jerry Rice 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:48.320 was in. It's because late one night, he was dozing 0:02:48.360 --> 0:02:52.400 off watching TV when the sports anchor tees hey and 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:55.040 coming up, we have highlights of Jerry Rice at Mississippi 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:57.799 Valley State. Because Rice was kind of a cult figure 0:02:57.840 --> 0:02:59.680 back then. Look at this what this guy is doing 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:03.480 at this really small college, and he saw the highlights 0:03:03.480 --> 0:03:05.960 of Jerry Rice, he decided I gotta go get this 0:03:06.000 --> 0:03:08.680 guy all because he woke up for it while dozing 0:03:08.720 --> 0:03:12.600 off at midnight watching TV. What if he had stayed asleep. 0:03:12.880 --> 0:03:14.600 What if he just decided on I need to see 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:17.400 that guy, got scouting everything else because he woke up 0:03:17.440 --> 0:03:20.600 to watch Mississippi Valley State and Jerry Rice catching touchdowns. 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:24.080 I believe from Willie Totton, who was the quarterback nicely done, 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:26.239 that could have changed NFL history if he had just 0:03:26.360 --> 0:03:30.960 stayed sleeping. Pretty crazy how things change. And as we 0:03:31.080 --> 0:03:34.640 talked about in the first episode of Special Teams, looking 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:38.280 back at the draft, I mean circumstance, changing of fortunes, 0:03:38.480 --> 0:03:44.560 changing of legacies, and how players and coaches are viewed likewise. 0:03:44.560 --> 0:03:47.240 Here all because you had a little bit of a 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:51.400 an inflection in a local sports anchor's voice enough to 0:03:51.680 --> 0:03:55.680 jolt you from a nice slumber thinking about the greatness 0:03:55.680 --> 0:03:58.440 of Roger Craig and the other weapons at your disposal 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:03.120 to go find Jerry Rice, the man widely referred to 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:06.480 as the Goat. Well, but think about him with that 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:08.720 Patriots uniform. That would have been pretty sweet back then. 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:11.320 Oh yeah, that would have It would have been the 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:14.680 old one with pat page really read. That would have 0:04:14.680 --> 0:04:18.520 been nice. Think about that. Yeah. Uh, So they make 0:04:18.600 --> 0:04:21.160 this move and there were a couple of things that 0:04:21.320 --> 0:04:24.279 led him to being able to get Jerry Rice because 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:26.200 he didn't go you know, it's not like Jerry Rice 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:28.880 went number two or number three. Overall, there were many 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:32.520 teams that passed him by, including the New York Jets, 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:35.679 who picked at number ten. And I'm gonna tell the story, 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:38.560 even though it's very painful for me, because you want 0:04:38.560 --> 0:04:42.320 me to just pretend like I'm playing a violin. No, no, 0:04:42.440 --> 0:04:46.480 it's okay. So the Jets are picking a ten, right, 0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:50.120 and the Jets need a wide receiver, and they were 0:04:50.600 --> 0:04:56.440 completely torn between Jerry Rice and al Tune, Right, that's 0:04:56.480 --> 0:04:58.479 what they wanted. Al Tune, who was a really good 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:01.799 receiver from Wisconsin, and they were split down the middle. 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:04.640 And Rich Code tight who winds up screwing the Jets 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:06.719 before he screwed them by being their head coach, was 0:05:06.800 --> 0:05:09.080 that their lead scouter. He was the guy that broke 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:12.599 the tie, and he said, I don't think Jerry Rice 0:05:12.600 --> 0:05:15.440 can get separation at the next level. So they said, 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:17.680 let's go with al Tune. And al Tune was the 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:19.640 guy that al Tune had a good career for the Jets, 0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:22.200 so it's really good, you know, got hurt later on, 0:05:22.320 --> 0:05:24.840 had concussions, but he was still pretty good. But he 0:05:24.880 --> 0:05:27.880 wasn't Jerry Rice, but a thousand yards seasons mixed in 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:31.440 nearly a thousand, nearly three straight years of a thousand yards. 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:34.240 So they had just lost rich Code tights phone number. 0:05:34.640 --> 0:05:37.279 They could have had Jerry Rice, who instead hangs around 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:40.280 until sixteen. Overall, Yeah, but something tells me that Rich 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:42.320 Code type back of the day, in the era before 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:46.279 cell phones, was standing next to that pay phone or 0:05:46.360 --> 0:05:50.359 standing next to that phone in his office as long 0:05:50.400 --> 0:05:52.320 as he possibly could. He might have slept in the 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:56.880 office making sure he wasn't going to be omitted from 0:05:56.920 --> 0:06:00.919 any of these discussions. So Jets don't get him at 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:03.039 number ten. And this really, I mean, this is just 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:04.880 one of those things that tells you, well, you know, hey, 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:08.880 that's so totally Jets. But the reason Rice was around 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:10.560 for so long you talk about him not being able 0:06:10.600 --> 0:06:15.760 to get separation is because his forty time from the 0:06:15.839 --> 0:06:20.120 combine was disputed because it first got reported he he 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:22.839 ran the forty and four point four or five seconds, which, okay, 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:26.240 that's pretty good. It's not four two eights blazing. Yeah, 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:28.960 it's not like what we see here in Yeah, that's 0:06:28.960 --> 0:06:31.440 still four four speed. And when you're talking about four 0:06:31.480 --> 0:06:33.440 four because that's it was always the big thing for 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:38.039 the longest four four speed, that was great. But then 0:06:38.080 --> 0:06:41.320 it got reported it could be as slow as four 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:45.520 point seven one, which that's that. The guys don't get 0:06:45.600 --> 0:06:49.000 drafted that high when you run a four defensive getting 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:51.880 close to that in this day and age, And I 0:06:51.920 --> 0:06:55.720 don't understand how that's not more exact. Look a look 0:06:55.720 --> 0:06:58.480 at the the guys, and I'll say it, if you're 0:06:58.520 --> 0:07:00.960 listening out there, and you a candid to combine standing 0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:03.120 there with your stop watching a dope. You don't need 0:07:03.160 --> 0:07:06.040 to do it anymore. They've got lasers that do know. 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:08.320 They didn't have the sharks with laser beings, but you 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:11.320 still had guys with how does so many people get 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:14.320 get have such a wide range of what Jerry Rice 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:18.120 is forty wide range of ages and aptitude. So it's 0:07:18.200 --> 0:07:21.480 like guys running the forty. There's a wide range of 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:24.120 how quick that trigger finger is? I had to sneeze, 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:27.640 I'm sorry, so I started my wh you know, when 0:07:27.720 --> 0:07:29.960 is he really? And that goes back to the other 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:33.360 evaluation though, when you add the human element of deciding 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:37.800 when is he officially running his forty? Right, you got 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:40.640 the start to move forwards and wait for the first 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:43.200 step before you start what I mean, what are we 0:07:43.280 --> 0:07:45.360 looking at? So? I mean that could be the difference 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:49.040 of point one point two seconds right there. But yeah, 0:07:49.160 --> 0:07:53.760 Jerry Rice always the joke was well the slowest, greatest, 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:56.840 you know slow motion guy that was really moving a 0:07:56.880 --> 0:07:58.880 lot faster, kind of like you see in a bunch 0:07:58.920 --> 0:08:01.600 of your favorite Marvel movies. Well he was also that. 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:04.120 He was also the guy one of the original guys 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:07.080 where you could say about him. He had practice, sped, 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:09.600 had games. You know. It was sometimes you see guys 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:11.680 with games, and Jerry Rice had games. He had did 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:13.520 a little rope a dope and during his career he 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:16.679 talked to Jerry Rice and any media event he'll laugh 0:08:16.760 --> 0:08:19.640 and be like getting low guys to sleep, right, I mean, 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:22.440 how many guys kind of come up limping, They're ne 0:08:22.480 --> 0:08:26.840 really not thinking the next play, their cornerbacks gonna slump 0:08:26.880 --> 0:08:28.840 off a little bit, and what do you do? You 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:31.960 cut inside him and away you go. Part of me. 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:35.160 I I get it because this was Jerry Rice was 0:08:35.280 --> 0:08:37.120 a real cult figure back in eighty five. He was 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:39.520 the guy that late at night on Saturday on your 0:08:39.559 --> 0:08:42.400 local sports reporter was and hey, check out this crazy 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:45.400 college football high like Jerry Rice and Willie Tott. Because 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:47.319 Willie Tatt and throw like sixties. They were throwing the 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:48.920 ball all over. It was like, oh my god, look 0:08:48.960 --> 0:08:50.560 at this team. And it was one of those of 0:08:50.640 --> 0:08:53.880 all the teams players across the country. Jerry Rice just 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:56.640 so happened to get all this love because look at 0:08:56.640 --> 0:08:58.600 what he was doing. It was a small college. It 0:08:58.679 --> 0:09:01.640 wasn't nowadays where everybody would know Jerry Rice, right, I mean, 0:09:01.679 --> 0:09:03.600 so I get that part of it. But still when 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:05.560 you're at the comment with your time and the guy 0:09:05.600 --> 0:09:07.680 you would have that number, you know what I mean. Look, 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:10.680 everybody knew enough about Jerry Rice. He actually went number 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:14.920 one overall in the USFL draft in eighty five by Birmingham. 0:09:14.960 --> 0:09:17.160 But of course he chose the NFL over the USFL. 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:19.480 But also enough people knew about him at the end, 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:22.199 you think that would be a pretty important thing for 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:25.440 Jerry Rice's forty times. Let's figure that out what that is. Yeah, 0:09:25.480 --> 0:09:29.559 but again it goes to even in with the lasers 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:33.640 focused and everything and all the science behind it, we 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:37.360 still have disputed forty numbers for guys like, well, they 0:09:37.360 --> 0:09:39.840 clocked him here and then it's it's it's a matter 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:43.200 of point oh five or point oh two or whatever else. 0:09:43.559 --> 0:09:47.400 We're talking hundreds instead of here. We're talking full tens 0:09:49.080 --> 0:09:52.599 tense of a second that people are disputing. But it 0:09:52.679 --> 0:09:54.840 seemed like it turned out pretty well for him, So 0:09:55.000 --> 0:09:58.079 everybody else is ineptitude ruined him. The Jets would have 0:09:58.120 --> 0:10:00.160 ruined him. He would have never had this career. Never 0:10:00.320 --> 0:10:05.640 the other the Bengals passed on him too, Bess go 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:09.120 before Jerry Rice. Well, but just but just looking at 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:12.599 the wide receiver position, right, because that's that's where the 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:15.200 Jets can at least say, all right, somebody else still 0:10:15.280 --> 0:10:19.079 had an opportunity, and Eddie Brown from Miami goes to 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:23.800 the Bengals at So that is how Jerry Rice wound 0:10:23.880 --> 0:10:27.040 up a forty niner and maybe the worst trade the 0:10:27.040 --> 0:10:29.840 Patriots have ever made. You know. The Bears picked later 0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:33.040 in that round, drafted William the Refrigerator Perry who starred 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:34.960 in the Super Bowl that yes he did, in case 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:37.400 you remember, Yes he did. He was, he had a 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:40.320 he had a he had a decently large NFL career, 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:42.000 He had a good run. He did he well, he 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:45.920 was famous. He was refrigerator Perry. Legend. Uh. Coming up next, 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:48.959 it's not just one draft what this next team did, 0:10:49.000 --> 0:10:52.199 but what they did in the first round, three drafts 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:55.400 in a row that will likely never be matched. It's 0:10:55.440 --> 0:10:57.880 special teams with Jason Smith and Mike Harmon as we 0:10:57.960 --> 0:11:00.600 look back at special teams in the hat A Fell Draft. 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:20.520 As we resume here on special teams, taking a look 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:23.400 back at special teams in the NFL Draft, Our second 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:27.040 week breaking down what teams did something so special and 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:32.440 individual NFL drafts. Something a little bit different in this 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:34.880 next segment we have for you is we're not just 0:11:34.920 --> 0:11:37.439 gonna look back at what one team did in one draft, 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:39.760 but we're gonna look back at what one team did 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:44.000 in the first round. Three consecutive drafts in a row 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:51.640 back and one in the first round. The Dallas Cowboys 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:55.480 made their dynasty of the nineties by taking Michael Irvin, 0:11:55.880 --> 0:11:59.720 Troy Aikman, and Emmett Smith all in the first round 0:11:59.720 --> 0:12:03.080 of their drafts. I would say there's been no more 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:05.800 greater success of a three year running the draft than 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:07.800 what the Cowboys did here and get in the triple 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:09.160 and no, that's about as good as it cats, But 0:12:09.200 --> 0:12:12.880 you gotta dial it back to seven. I mean seven 0:12:13.000 --> 0:12:15.520 was a pretty pretty big year when you look at it, 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:19.680 because in the first round they took a defensive tackle 0:12:19.760 --> 0:12:24.280 out of Nebraska named Danny Noonan. No no, no. And 0:12:24.320 --> 0:12:26.559 in the second round they took the quarterback out a 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:31.120 Baylor named Ron Francis Ron Freill. Well, he did turn 0:12:31.120 --> 0:12:34.439 out to have a great career with the Penguins. Career, 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:36.240 I'll tell you was good. I mean when the Whalers 0:12:36.240 --> 0:12:38.320 trade Ronnie Francis, that was very sick. So we had 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:40.120 to make a make a point of well, here's a 0:12:40.120 --> 0:12:42.400 couple of guys that you know the names, but not 0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:45.240 for the reason of their success with the Dallas cow 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:48.599 ron Francis and Alf Samuelson and look Danny Noon and 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:50.120 never panned out. I mean he couldn't even get in 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:52.240 the college. You have any money for college, Well, you 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:54.400 know what, there's a way. You gotta start with the 0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:57.920 juco and then used to transfer rules to your advantage. 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:00.160 He did win the Catty Tournament. I mean, have been 0:13:00.200 --> 0:13:02.480 able to get you a low Noble scholarship somewhere looks 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:05.560 pretty good on the young person's resume. Winning the Caddy scholarship, 0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:10.000 that's right. But the Dallas Cowboys, who going into this draft, 0:13:10.080 --> 0:13:13.160 they knew they needed a receiver. They take Michael Erin 0:13:13.200 --> 0:13:16.160 out of Miami eleventh overall. I remember when he was taken, 0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:18.800 he came out the media. They had cameras on him 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:21.840 and he goes Dallas Cowboys baby super Bowl bound and 0:13:21.840 --> 0:13:24.280 he's shaking hands out and they going, boy, this team 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:26.640 was terrible. Really sudden to the Super Bowl. I liked 0:13:26.920 --> 0:13:30.080 Michael Irvin's bravado, and that turned out to be his 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:33.560 entire NFL and post NFL career was pretty much what 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:35.960 we know Michael Irvin for right, man, you go back 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:38.720 in that draft, you had Sterling Sharp. People forget how 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:41.600 good Sterling Sharp was. Well, people forget this draft is 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:44.599 that the Cowboys needed a receiver and they would have 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:47.520 been great no matter what, because the first three receivers 0:13:47.520 --> 0:13:50.160 taken in this draft that were taken before Michael Irvin 0:13:50.240 --> 0:13:53.200 were Tim Brown, then Sterling Sharp, and then Michael Irvin. 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:56.000 They would have been fine with any of these those 0:13:56.040 --> 0:13:58.719 three fell there. Yes, you would have had yourself one 0:13:58.760 --> 0:14:01.360 hell of a player. Uh. And for Michael Irvin, I 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:04.640 mean that's that's a guy, just a legend, bringing that 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:08.960 Miami swagger on a whole other level. Uh. He always 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:14.000 complimented my suit and tie combinations. It's and parties and 0:14:14.080 --> 0:14:17.440 stuff like that. You know, I was a little bold 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:20.240 with some of the things I would wear. Not the 0:14:20.280 --> 0:14:22.560 purple shorts that I wear in the studio with you 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:25.800 on a night on nightly, definitely night We're talking pin 0:14:25.840 --> 0:14:31.080 striped suits and bold ties. Yes, going next level. It's 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:33.200 crazy that he was even a round out eleven. Because 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:36.600 he had a phenomenal career at Miami, and especially because 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:39.800 there were no quarterbacks taken that year until the third round, 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:41.520 he was not the year of the quarterback. I mean, 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:44.520 we'd only seen this a couple of times in the 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:49.800 last thirty plus years in this draft, and in those 0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:53.040 were the only NFL drafts that didn't have a quarterback 0:14:53.080 --> 0:14:56.080 taken in the first round. The first quarterback drafted here 0:14:56.440 --> 0:14:59.360 third round, Tom Tupa, who was taken mainly because he 0:14:59.440 --> 0:15:02.360 was a punter, so you don't remember him. You can 0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:04.160 throw a little bit. Hey, we got a backup quarterback. 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:06.080 We got our number one punter. Let's just do it. 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:07.720 He's just one of those guys that I always said, 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:10.800 you know, he played quarterback in college. He can throw 0:15:10.840 --> 0:15:12.360 the ball a little bit, so look out for the 0:15:12.360 --> 0:15:16.920 trick player. But yes, Chris Chandler was first quarterback off 0:15:16.920 --> 0:15:18.800 the board. I mean that, you just don't You'll never 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:21.120 see that again. There's never gonna be an NFL draft 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:24.520 ever again where a quarterback isn't taken in the first round. 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:27.080 To mention, just go through and look at the players 0:15:27.080 --> 0:15:30.240 selected ahead of Irvin, many of who went on to 0:15:30.360 --> 0:15:34.880 great success. Neil Smith, Benny Blades, Paul Gruber. We already 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:38.000 talked about Brown and Sterling Sharp. Andre Bruce was the 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:41.120 number one pick over Andre Bruce. Want a bust, right, 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:44.680 So you got him, but everything else kinda played out right, 0:15:44.720 --> 0:15:47.600 and the number one pick goes wrong, as it does 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:51.360 so often. Good luck with that, Cincinnati. But it's one 0:15:51.360 --> 0:15:53.520 of those things that as you go through, you got 0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:56.640 a lot of stalwart players that were drafted in that 0:15:56.680 --> 0:15:59.960 first round. I remember Jerry Glanville saying about Andre Bruce, 0:16:00.000 --> 0:16:01.520 who was such a buss. He was he was like 0:16:01.600 --> 0:16:04.600 at the end of his rope with him uh at 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:06.920 the Falcons and he said, you know, everybody in the 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:09.920 NFL has size, strength, and speed, which is what Andre 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:12.800 Bruce had. And then he said, but everybody else needs 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:15.080 to bring something to the party, and like that was 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:16.960 what it was. Like Andre Bruce did. He he was 0:16:17.000 --> 0:16:19.400 he was big, and he was an athlete, but he 0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:22.040 didn't have anything else that took to be an NFL star. 0:16:22.160 --> 0:16:24.080 Do you know One of my first media jobs was 0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:28.200 working with Jimmy Glanville really doing fantasy football analysis for 0:16:28.280 --> 0:16:31.960 something called The Football Network, which that was around for 0:16:32.000 --> 0:16:35.520 about eight minutes it was on. We were on Spike 0:16:35.600 --> 0:16:40.720 TV and we're doing a fantasy show and it was him. 0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:45.240 We had Danny Sherion and the odds maker forgetting the 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:49.240 host name, but Glanville at the week they would have 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:52.120 me on and we do sleepers and we'd go through 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:55.240 these things. And he was obsessed with my cheekbones, and 0:16:55.240 --> 0:16:58.200 I was always trying to guess my ethnicity. Really, my 0:16:58.280 --> 0:17:00.360 deal was he took some shots at my weight. Is 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:07.920 very weird. We got along very well. No, that's it's 0:17:08.000 --> 0:17:11.960 really odd. So the Cowboys start at the beginning of 0:17:11.960 --> 0:17:15.160 their dynasty by taking Michael ven eleventh overall. What happens 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:18.000 that year, Well, they're terrible and they draft number one 0:17:18.040 --> 0:17:22.280 overall in nine they need a quarterback. What do they do. 0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:25.280 They take Troy Aikman out of U c. L A 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:27.640 number one overall. That This is one of the legendary 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:30.480 drafts in the NFL, as four of the first five picks, 0:17:30.480 --> 0:17:34.320 including Dion Sanders, wound up in the Hall of Fame. Aikman, 0:17:34.840 --> 0:17:36.879 to start things off with the Dallas Cowboys, was the 0:17:36.920 --> 0:17:39.760 only player at the draft this year. He's the guy 0:17:39.800 --> 0:17:42.520 that started the trend of going to the draft, Aikman 0:17:42.600 --> 0:17:44.439 was there, held the jersey. Suddenly it's it's not a 0:17:44.440 --> 0:17:46.760 bad idea. And now everybody goes to the draft when 0:17:46.800 --> 0:17:49.200 you can. So we're all the draft. And here's Troy Aikman, 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:52.919 who started out as an option wishbone quarterback at Oklahoma, 0:17:53.280 --> 0:17:55.760 breaks his leg, loses his job because they got other 0:17:55.800 --> 0:17:58.320 better quarterbacks in Oklahoma. Goes to U C. L A. 0:17:58.359 --> 0:18:00.560 Now I'm a pocket passer, and here he is sure 0:18:00.600 --> 0:18:02.480 fire number one overall pick in the draft. But the 0:18:02.480 --> 0:18:05.000 big thing for this draft for the Dallas Cowboys was 0:18:05.080 --> 0:18:08.080 you had such a huge changing of the guard. Right. 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:12.040 This is when Jerry Jones takes over the Dallas franchise. 0:18:12.080 --> 0:18:15.160 He got rid of Tom Lange and Jimmy Johnson comes in. Yes, 0:18:15.760 --> 0:18:19.280 Gil Grant your friend, he got many he does not 0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:22.760 like you. Um. He was no longer in charge of 0:18:22.760 --> 0:18:25.439 personnel Tech Shram had moved on, and it was a 0:18:25.440 --> 0:18:28.840 whole new world order for these Dallas Cowboys. And this 0:18:28.920 --> 0:18:32.120 is where things got really interesting because with Jimmy Johnson 0:18:32.160 --> 0:18:36.560 coming in head coach at Miami in the supplemental draft 0:18:36.600 --> 0:18:38.679 and the Spring of eighty nine, which happens after the 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:41.560 NFL Draft, it's when you know you're able to pick 0:18:41.640 --> 0:18:44.919 a player who for some reason falls through the cracks, 0:18:44.960 --> 0:18:47.359 wants to leave school and get to the NFL. Early 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:51.720 Steve Walsh, who was his quarterback at Miami, wanted to 0:18:51.760 --> 0:18:53.919 leave for the National Football League. Stef Walts is one 0:18:53.920 --> 0:18:56.960 of the most decorated quarterbacks in college football, and Jimmy 0:18:57.080 --> 0:19:03.000 Johnson took him at number two overall in the supplemental draft. 0:19:03.560 --> 0:19:07.040 So now you take Troy Aikman number one overall in 0:19:07.040 --> 0:19:11.360 the draft. Then later on in the supplemental draft you 0:19:11.560 --> 0:19:14.840 take Steve Walsh. Wait a minute, why are we doing this? 0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:17.400 Why are we taking another quarterback when we just drafted 0:19:17.520 --> 0:19:20.920 our franchise quarterback at number one. Here's the rub of this. 0:19:21.119 --> 0:19:24.119 Not only did he just take another quarterback, his own guy, 0:19:24.520 --> 0:19:27.719 so obviously did he really want Troy Aikman. What he 0:19:27.800 --> 0:19:30.960 did was, when you take a pick in the supplemental draft, 0:19:31.080 --> 0:19:35.200 you forfeit the same pick in the NFL draft next year. 0:19:35.880 --> 0:19:38.240 And because Dallas turned out to be one in fifteen 0:19:38.240 --> 0:19:40.760 in Aikman's rookie year, that turned out to be the 0:19:40.840 --> 0:19:44.000 number one overall pick in the draft. So the nineteen 0:19:44.119 --> 0:19:46.399 ninety they would have had the number one pick, but 0:19:46.520 --> 0:19:49.480 they lost it because they took Steve Walsh in the 0:19:49.520 --> 0:19:53.160 supplemental draft. You tell me a head coach who survives 0:19:53.240 --> 0:19:55.840 that we drafted a guy at number one overall, who's 0:19:55.840 --> 0:19:59.200 gonna be our quarterback? We go one in fifteen, I 0:19:59.280 --> 0:20:01.679 draft my her back from college to put him in. 0:20:01.720 --> 0:20:03.679 Who's really never gonna make it, doesn't have the arm 0:20:03.680 --> 0:20:07.400 strength of the National Football League. We are terrible. Aikman 0:20:07.480 --> 0:20:10.119 gets hurt and we finished at the bottom of the 0:20:10.200 --> 0:20:12.200 league and we don't even have the number one pick 0:20:12.280 --> 0:20:14.520 the next year. Tell me a head coach that survives that. 0:20:14.760 --> 0:20:17.960 No body today's day body. No. But it also shows 0:20:18.040 --> 0:20:21.439 at that point Jerry Jones first getting his hands around 0:20:21.480 --> 0:20:27.880 the organization. Uh, we got Troy, and um, I don't 0:20:27.880 --> 0:20:30.639 know the supplemental stuff, but I go to g n 0:20:30.680 --> 0:20:33.080 C and try to have you get something over the counter. 0:20:33.280 --> 0:20:35.440 Of course that's the way to go. I mean that 0:20:35.440 --> 0:20:38.800 that was I mean, just thinking about that back then, 0:20:38.840 --> 0:20:41.040 even I thought that was weird, and I was eighteen 0:20:41.080 --> 0:20:43.000 years old, and I'm going, that's weird. Why the hell 0:20:43.040 --> 0:20:45.399 would they do that? I mean, did they not like 0:20:45.480 --> 0:20:48.920 Troy Aikman Behind the scenes was Jimmy Johnson sending a message. 0:20:49.160 --> 0:20:52.280 I mean there's a million things that go through that process. 0:20:52.520 --> 0:20:55.760 You can tell that Jimmy Johnson wanted Steve Walsh to 0:20:55.800 --> 0:20:58.679 be his quarterback, want him to win the job. But 0:20:58.800 --> 0:21:01.000 he couldn't even though and got hurt and had a 0:21:01.080 --> 0:21:04.520 really bad rookie year. Like Aikman throws for nine touchdowns 0:21:04.520 --> 0:21:07.560 and eighteen picks, he didn't look like a star. He 0:21:07.640 --> 0:21:09.840 was owing eleven. You know, he got hurt in his 0:21:09.960 --> 0:21:12.920 first three years in the NFL. He was displaced at 0:21:13.040 --> 0:21:17.160