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Speaker 2: So that's what life is.

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Speaker 3: A Buffalo Bills fan is apparently all about Aaron Torres,

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Speaker 3: the ups and downs, and in the end disappointment is

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Speaker 3: Buffalo could not get it done last night against the Texans.

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Speaker 4: It's a tough watch if you're a Bills fan. Josh

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Speaker 4: Allen getting killed out there. You know, there's not too

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Speaker 4: many times in his career where I feel like he's

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Speaker 4: been overwhelmed by a defense. Like even when he loses games,

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Speaker 4: it's like, you know, thirty one to twenty eight and

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Speaker 4: he has two passing touchdowns and a rushing touchdown. That

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Speaker 4: was one of the few times in his career that

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Speaker 4: I felt like he was completely helpless.

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Speaker 3: We'll get to the issues of the Buffalo Bills, what

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Speaker 3: it means short term and specifically long term for a

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Speaker 3: team that at times looked lost last night. Jason Stewart's

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Speaker 3: Our executive producer, Iowa sam is here. You heard Monci Blangyo.

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Speaker 3: She is at the news desk. We're sitting in today

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Speaker 3: for Doug Gottlieb here on Fox Sports Radio to let

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Speaker 3: you know Doug's Green Bay Fighting Phoenix just dropped their

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Speaker 3: opener in the Paradise Jam to Yale, losing today seventy

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Speaker 3: three to sixty seven, so a tough start to the tournament.

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Speaker 3: Phoenix were close throughout the game, but couldn't get it

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Speaker 3: done at the end as Yale ends up getting the victory.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if we had ever thought last night

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Speaker 3: that the Texans were going to run away from the

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Speaker 3: Buffalo Bills, especially with Davis Mills at quarterback. But when

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Speaker 3: you have a defense swarming like they did of the

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Speaker 3: Bills offense, it made for a tough tough night for Buffalo.

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Speaker 3: Josh Allen sacked eight times, had two interceptions, The last

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Speaker 3: one was on the final offensive player of the game

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Speaker 3: for Buffalo, ultimately aarin. They did have a chance to

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Speaker 3: steal this game, no matter how you look at it,

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Speaker 3: and it started out James Cook ends up getting a

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Speaker 3: touchdown run early in the contest from about forty fifty

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Speaker 3: yards out, so the Bills weren't really missing a beat

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Speaker 3: early on from what they did last week against Tampa,

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Speaker 3: and then Houston's defense just ultimately overwhelms Josh Allen. This

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Speaker 3: is what the Bills quarterback had to say after the game.

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Speaker 5: Can you even put into words how I did just

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Speaker 5: to get through a game like that?

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Speaker 2: Most sacks of your career?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not fun.

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Speaker 6: I ran into a couple myself. I gotta be better

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Speaker 6: throwing the ball away and living to see another down

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Speaker 6: and letting us play some situational football and pantom deep

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Speaker 6: and too many times I was going backwards and I

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Speaker 3: I'm not shocked that Josh Allen was sacked eight times,

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Speaker 3: even though it was Amazon. Every single time he was

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Speaker 3: sacked had a new stat like most time sacked since

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty three, most times sacked since twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 3: tied for the most time sacked in his career, Like

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Speaker 3: every single time Houston was getting after them, there was

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Speaker 3: the screen. I'm sure it was somewhat difficult for Josh

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Speaker 3: Allen to put into words. He took some of the

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Speaker 3: blame himself. The toughest part about it, though, Aaron Torres,

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Speaker 3: is how this team is so flip floppy. They're so

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Speaker 3: They just came off of a game where they dominated

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Speaker 3: offensively against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, where Josh Allen for

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Speaker 3: the National Football League, but this roller coaster of the

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Speaker 3: Buffalo Bills is who the Buffalo Bills are, and I

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Speaker 3: think that is what's so frustrating for this Bills fan base.

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Speaker 4: So let me ask you a question. I'm just gonna

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Speaker 4: not beat around the bush. Do you think that Sean

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Speaker 4: McDermott's message is being lost? And let me give you

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Speaker 4: be very quick and I'll give you both sides One. Obviously,

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Speaker 4: understand there's some limitations. You know, there's some holes on

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Speaker 4: the team. This isn't far from the most complete roster

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Speaker 4: The Dolphins does.

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Speaker 4: So I just think that is the mark of a

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Speaker 4: gotten over the hump. And like I said, the mark

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Speaker 4: To use the word that you just said of this

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Speaker 3: It's I don't think it's I don't think that they've

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Speaker 3: I don't think that this team is a good front runner.

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Speaker 2: Fair.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that they handle success well. And while

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Speaker 3: you were sicking your mind for the other loss that

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Speaker 3: the Bills had this season, I went to the Patriots loss.

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Speaker 3: And I probably went to that loss because that was

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Speaker 3: They go, they beat the Saints in Week four, and

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Speaker 3: then you have New England coming to town. Four of

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Speaker 3: and the opener we saw, they came back and won.

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Speaker 3: Dolphins weren't doing much, mentioned the Saints, and then you

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Speaker 3: up in biting them on Sunday Night football, handing them

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Speaker 3: their first loss of the season. But you think about

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Speaker 3: the beginning of the year, Chiefs started out zero to two.

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Speaker 3: The Ravens ended up having Lamar Jackson injured in Week four,

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Speaker 3: but Buffalo beat him in Week one. The Ravens stumbled

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Speaker 3: for Buffalo to take control of this, it all happened

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Speaker 3: early on in the season and just run away with him, Yes, absolutely,

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Speaker 3: and they were unable to do it. I don't think

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Speaker 3: it's solely on Sean McDermott's plate. I think that Brandon

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Speaker 3: I'm not blaming injuries, not blaming ed Oliver not being there.

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Speaker 3: very difficult time being a front runner, I think, and

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Speaker 3: maybe it represents the city, maybe it represents the Bills mafia.

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Speaker 3: They are better off being the team to come out

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Speaker 3: whenever you put expectations on them or feel that this

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Speaker 3: And last night I felt was the example. I mean,

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Speaker 3: the Texans are coming off of a blase win against

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Speaker 3: to thirteen in that contest. Well, we talked about Buffalo

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Speaker 3: And last night they just seem to resort back to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think to your point about you know,

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Speaker 4: not being a good front runner that and this isn't

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Speaker 4: like some you know, profound take. That's the most frustrating

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Speaker 4: part is you see, because I remember on you know,

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Speaker 4: everything is opening up for the Buffalo Bills. You know,

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Speaker 4: Lamar's injury, the Chiefs are struggling out of the gate.

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Speaker 4: You know, the South is obviously gonna you know, the

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Speaker 4: don't think it lines up. And now I think that's

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Speaker 4: the frustrating part, right is if it's if it's a

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Speaker 4: just not the right roster construction and the wrong injuries

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Speaker 4: an opening here with again no disrespect attendant, but a

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Speaker 4: And that's the part. I'm not even a Buffalo Bills fan,

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Speaker 4: and I'm frustrated because I feel like they had frankly

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Speaker 4: and instead they've kind of shut it on themselves.

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Speaker 3: To your pa, what has ended up turning? And I'm

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Speaker 3: curious on Jason Stewart's thoughts on this. Jason and I

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Speaker 3: commented when we saw in Buffalo a sign in paraphrasing,

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Speaker 3: but it was like, this is our year.

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Speaker 4: Really very dist so it was an open, just conversation,

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Speaker 3: But that was the sense that we had talked about

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Speaker 3: When we were at that game against the Dolphins and

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Speaker 3: just seeing stuff around town, Jason really felt like this

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Speaker 3: is the year where the Bills mafia is putting their

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Speaker 5: It sure seems so, and I think it has something

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Speaker 5: a new day is going to be the new Bills.

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Speaker 5: And there just seemed to be an urgency about this season.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if they were referring to their roster

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Speaker 5: little bit down, but there was I forget the manenttra

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Speaker 5: something to do with very high expectations, not like winter

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Speaker 5: was high expectations as you walked around.

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Speaker 3: I swear it was something as simple as this is

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Speaker 3: our year. But what I think that also like signifies

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Speaker 3: is this is why it's the tipping point. It's not

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Speaker 3: only does Sean McDermott stay the message that you get

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Speaker 3: with Buffalo now and if you just follow anything on

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Speaker 3: social media about the Bills, you're hearing more and more

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Speaker 3: we are wasting Josh Allen's years.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: I've been saying that for three years and so and

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Speaker 3: so that that is now where the tide is turned

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Speaker 3: to this point where you feel like you've had this

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Speaker 3: this year, if they don't go on a heater in

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Speaker 3: the playoffs, and if you look at their remaining schedule,

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Speaker 3: it's it's not as difficult. There's a game against the

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Speaker 3: Egos they've got coming up, but they play the Jets again.

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Speaker 3: They've got winnable games. They should make the postseason. But

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Speaker 4: The one last thought that I do have, I think

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Speaker 4: One quick, quick, quick buffalo question. Does the does the

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Speaker 3: anytime you can make Hay without them being possibly part

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Speaker 3: Throw on the expectations. If they don't go to the

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Speaker 4: So I agree hundred percent with all that.

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Speaker 8: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug

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Speaker 3: Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. I'm Dan Byer, He's

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Speaker 3: Aaron tora Is sitting in for Doug today. As Doug

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Speaker 4: We were on air for the Minnesota game. We want

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Speaker 3: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers here to talk NFL action in

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Speaker 3: advance of Week twelve. But Mark, welcome in. First of all,

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Speaker 3: let's look back at Let's look back at last night.

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Speaker 3: Do we just chalk it up to this is the

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think so. I think it's a great question,

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Speaker 7: took advantage of him.

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Speaker 3: Former GM of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Mark Dominic joining

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Speaker 3: us here on Fox Sports Radio. I'm Dan Bayer. He's

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Speaker 3: Aaron Torres in for Doug Gottlieb today. Just another one

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Speaker 3: on the Bills, because I do think they're the most

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Speaker 3: popular team in the National Football You saw the amount

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Speaker 3: of fans that were in Houston last night. It's the

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Speaker 3: Bill's mafia has taken over. Been Aaron and I were

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Speaker 3: discussing at the top of the show as well as

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Speaker 3: now you're starting to hear some members of the fan

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Speaker 3: base saying, are we wasting Josh Allen's years? Have they

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Speaker 3: wasted these last couple of years in Buffalo.

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Speaker 7: I wouldn't say they wasted him. I mean, obviously Buffalo

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Speaker 7: and the Baltimore Ravens both and got incredible quarterbacks to

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Speaker 7: just not get pount the pass out, you know, Patrick Mahomes,

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Speaker 7: and now looks like that is opened. The door's opened

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Speaker 7: for somebody, and I think that that's the real thing.

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Speaker 7: And I think it again. I think it goes back

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Speaker 7: to guess the Ravens are playing better balls, but they

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Speaker 7: also have the schedule to start to finally get themselves

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Speaker 7: back to five hundred and beyond. Buffalo has played up

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Speaker 7: and down as we've seen him. So I still feel

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Speaker 7: like both those teams have every chance to meet each

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Speaker 7: other in the AFC Championship Game and the best team goes. Yes.

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Speaker 7: Every year you lose a year of a quarterback, certainly

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Speaker 7: feels like you might be wasting one. But we got

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Speaker 7: to kind of remind ourselves how hard it is to

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Speaker 7: win these things, right because Aaron Rodgers, you know, Drew Brees,

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Speaker 7: I mean, it's hard to win him, even though when

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Speaker 7: you might be the best quarterback in the league at

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Speaker 7: that time. And I think that's the same situation you're

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Speaker 7: seeing here. So the nice thing is the Josh Allens,

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Speaker 7: they look like you said, you know, the another ten years.

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Speaker 7: Lamar Jackson made another ten years. I think they'll both

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Speaker 7: get one when it's done. But this year certainly is

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Speaker 7: wide open to the AFP Lite one.

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Speaker 4: An Ever, before I'll ask you to put your GM

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Speaker 4: head on again mark of the Eagles eight and two

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Speaker 4: four game win streak, and all I hear everyone seems

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Speaker 4: so miserable, you know. You know, obviously aj Brown is

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Speaker 4: kind of a lightning rod. We're past the trade deadline.

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Speaker 4: We know he's going to be there through the end

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Speaker 4: of the season. Just what do you make of that situation?

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Speaker 4: But then, is there anything, Howie Roseman, is there anything

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Speaker 4: anyone in the building can do to kind of try

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Speaker 4: to put those fires out as they continue to seem

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Speaker 4: to keep popping up.

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Speaker 7: Well, I think, like what how he did once again

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Speaker 7: in the trade market made a big impact and it

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Speaker 7: showed that block room that hey, look, we're trying to

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Speaker 7: be the dynasty like everybody wants to talk about, you know,

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Speaker 7: the kids that the chiefs of being a dynasty. But

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Speaker 7: if we can win to the super Bowl, we're really

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Speaker 7: the one that everbody should be talking about. And I

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Speaker 7: think winning helps that, of course, as we all know.

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Speaker 7: But at the same point, you know, I think they've

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Speaker 7: done it in a different way than they did last year.

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Speaker 7: And I think that shows that they've got a little

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Speaker 7: more balanced. And yes, you're gonna have guys that are

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Speaker 7: gonna be frustrated within their role or maybe not get

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Speaker 7: those bets they're looking for, but they went out and

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Speaker 7: they tried to make their team as good as it

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Speaker 7: could possibly be for this stretch, run down the stretch,

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Speaker 7: and I think the Eagles are doing that. Jalen Hurts,

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Speaker 7: you know, as we see him in the postseason, usually

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Speaker 7: shows up pretty good. You know. Yes, I think it's

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Speaker 7: the town that's expected to win, and that's why you're

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Speaker 7: kind of getting that. You know, this is great, But

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Speaker 7: but what the Eagles have done is actually really good.

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Speaker 7: And I think that Howie Rosen made them better to

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Speaker 7: trade that one.

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Speaker 3: Mark, do you want to hear my crazy theory about

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Speaker 3: the Eagles? And I want you to judge this. I

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Speaker 3: need I want to hear the theory too, But I

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Speaker 3: think it makes it easier to move on from Jalen

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Speaker 3: hurts that they won it last year?

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Speaker 2: Does that make any sense?

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Speaker 7: It does, and I do understand that, and I think

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Speaker 7: that through this year, you know, because they're getting deeper

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Speaker 7: in his contract. I'm sure Howie Rosen's kind of looking

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Speaker 7: at the big picture saying, you know, where are we

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Speaker 7: at with Jalen? What can what where can he elevate

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Speaker 7: this team to? But then again, we've got to you know,

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Speaker 7: you've got to always run into is the grass green

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Speaker 7: on the other side? And what does that look like?

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Speaker 7: And you know, until they do something different. The nice

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Speaker 7: thing about Jalen and he may not be a great

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Speaker 7: regular season quarterback, but he's good. He can run the

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Speaker 7: ball and you can throws, but he has been an

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Speaker 7: extremely counted Super Bowl quarterback and boy, when it matters,

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Speaker 7: he shows up. And that's that's hard to replace.

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Speaker 4: Let me ask you about the Rams obviously coming off

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Speaker 4: the uh you know, obviously the very impressive effort against

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Speaker 4: the Seattle Seahawks. Just big picture, are you surprised? I mean,

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Speaker 4: they went all in on that Super Bowl and we

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Speaker 4: know the big names that were part of that, Odell

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Speaker 4: Beckham and Jalen Ramsey and you know, I can't even

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Speaker 4: remember Cooper Cup on and on, and they basically just

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Speaker 4: have not missed a beat essentially, and they've you know,

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Speaker 4: rebuilt through the draft, and they got to the point

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to make is for them to go all

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Speaker 4: in in the public manner that they did that year

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Speaker 4: and really just keep this thing rolling. As they've aged

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Speaker 4: out of Aaron Donald, all the guys I've mentioned, I

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Speaker 4: just continue to be blown away by that franchise.

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Speaker 7: I am too, And I think a lot of credit

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Speaker 7: needs to get less seed in terms of how they've

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Speaker 7: draft because they've turned over that roster significantly. Johncketsive line

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Speaker 7: has played better than I thought they would in terms

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Speaker 7: of seeing more physic a more consistent keeping Stafford healthy

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Speaker 7: this year, especially with Stafford coming in with what looked

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Speaker 7: like a bad defensive back issue. But I think it's

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Speaker 7: less neat. It's the drafting of the players that they've

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Speaker 7: been able to pull over the last couple of years

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Speaker 7: that have really kind of taken this team and their

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Speaker 7: young dynamics, fast team on defense, you got to love that.

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Speaker 7: In then on offense, they're very consistent in what they

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Speaker 7: do in the offensive line, is playing very well together,

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Speaker 7: and I think those two things combined with a veteran

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Speaker 7: quarterback who's obviously great, it's a good combination across the board.

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Speaker 7: And look, I think I still feel like it's I

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Speaker 7: think the three Chiefs can make it out of there

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Speaker 7: with that division. In terms of the West, I still

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Speaker 7: think San Francisco, healthy across the board, with the healthy

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Speaker 7: Brock party and a healthier defense, might be still the

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Speaker 7: scariest team in the West.

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Speaker 3: They got an interesting one coming up Monday out against

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Speaker 3: the Carolina Panthers as well that now has playoff implications

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Speaker 3: in a lot of different ways. All Right, last one

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Speaker 3: for me, Mark, it's the question that we all want

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Speaker 3: to know in week twelve, Shador Sanders getting the start

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Speaker 3: for the Cleveland Browns. If you're Kevin Stefanski, if you're

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Speaker 3: the Browns, does is this Shador's job for the rest

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Speaker 3: of the season. If Dylan Gabriel is able to clear

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Speaker 3: his concussion protocol, do you go back to Dylan Gabriel?

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Speaker 3: Does it all right? On week twelve? What do you

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Speaker 3: expect from Shador's first start and for things to play

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Speaker 3: out in Cleveland?

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Speaker 7: Well, the nice thing for Shador is as bad as

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Speaker 7: it looks. At least this week he's got first team reps.

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Speaker 7: As we all know, he's preparing for it. He knows

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Speaker 7: he's going to be the starter coming out of the tunnel,

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Speaker 7: and so we get to see a Chadur that's got

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Speaker 7: a lot more ability to be prepared for it, maybe

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Speaker 7: than what he was clearly last week Treads. I think

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Speaker 7: it's Shador's team for two weeks and then depending on

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Speaker 7: how Shaduur plays, I can go back to Dylan or

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Speaker 7: offten the Shduur if you can hold onto the job

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Speaker 7: and play at a higher level. It just feels to me,

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Speaker 7: like you know, and it's easy to say based on Pask,

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Speaker 7: but that game was very fast for Shador Sanders really

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Speaker 7: and it doesn't slow down that quickly with just one

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Speaker 7: week of practice with the first team. It gets harder

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Speaker 7: before it gets easier. And that's the thing I'm worried

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Speaker 7: about with Sador. So I think it's Gabriels team with

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Speaker 7: the season over, But I think this week we get

591
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Speaker 7: to finally, you know, see the talking heads that were

592
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Speaker 7: like yelling at you evaluated that they don't understand quarterbacks

593
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Speaker 7: in the league might have to choose some fat now

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Speaker 7: because of you know, there's a shador standers who went

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Speaker 7: to the round that might have gone maybe seven.

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Speaker 3: Well, I checked score, Agami. We've never had a five

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Speaker 3: to two final score in the NFL. Maybe it happens

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Speaker 3: in Vegas on Sunday, all right, sure these Mark Dominic,

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Speaker 3: former NFL GM of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He joins

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Speaker 3: us every Friday. Twenty years of work in the front office. Mark,

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Speaker 3: love your insight, Love talking to you. Happy Thanksgiving because

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Speaker 3: we won't talk to you before then, and appreciate the

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Speaker 3: time as always.

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Speaker 7: Yes, enjoy your thanks doing week, fellas. Thanks for having

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Speaker 7: me on.

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Speaker 4: By the way, your fantasy team took a hard hit

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Speaker 4: last night. I saw that on Twitter.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, gosh, Adrian Hill, Yeah, hamstringing. I started him

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Speaker 3: at ref Monzi. I started him at referee and he

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Speaker 3: left in the third quarter. It was garbage.

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Speaker 4: It was an A plus plus tweet. I gotta say, listen,

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Speaker 4: I don't feel bad for you, Josh Allen. Gave you

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Speaker 4: a big fat zero.

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Speaker 9: Okay.

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Speaker 2: I lost my wrath.

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Speaker 4: I lost my ref potentially for the season, at least

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Speaker 4: for a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be a one yeah, I'm in a keeper

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Speaker 3: ref league. So I had ed Hockey Lee for so

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Speaker 3: long and then he retired. So I've just locked up

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Speaker 3: Adrian Hill. And this time of year, you can't get

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Speaker 3: anybody off the wave.

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Speaker 2: No, you gotta.

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Speaker 3: You know who's available is the guy who filled in

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Speaker 3: for Adrian Hill is the umpire. He is now available

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Speaker 3: for all ref fantasy leagues. Oh Man giving him the business,

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Speaker 3: remember that one, that one as well sixty nine offense.

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Speaker 3: He was giving him the business. Great stuff, Thanks, Monzi.

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Speaker 3: I do want to talk about Zach Prescott quickly. Sure

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Speaker 3: Dak is one hundred and sixty yards away from becoming

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Speaker 3: the all time passing yardage leader for the Dallas Cowboys,

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Speaker 3: breaking a mark set by the guy he replaced, Tony Romo.

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Speaker 10: I'm humbled, thankful to be healthy and to be in

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Speaker 10: this position to do it. I was on the production

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Speaker 10: call earlier and they asked me the same thing, what

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Speaker 10: I've thought this ten years ago? And I said, yeah,

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Speaker 10: I was very arrogant as a rookie. So when you

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Speaker 10: play in this game long enough and you can stay

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Speaker 10: healthy with my expectations of what my play is, that's

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Speaker 10: supposed to happen. So just thankful, humbled, super grateful to

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Speaker 10: to be playing the game I love at this high

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Speaker 10: level and to still be doing it and just look

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Speaker 10: forward to keep going. That any of those actually plan

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Speaker 10: to that, it's definitely something to be shared, whether it

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Speaker 10: be with CD, whether it be with Omar. I had

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Speaker 10: a big part of it, right, all these receivers, I mean,

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Speaker 10: Michael Gallup played a big part in any of these records, right,

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Speaker 10: Dalton Schultz, Jake Ferd, Witting like so many of them.

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Speaker 10: So I'm just a product of a lot of great players.

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Speaker 10: That's my point. When you play a long time and

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Speaker 10: you play with the standard expectations that I have, you

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Speaker 10: should accomplish these type of things.

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Speaker 3: He's on his way to being a top three Cowboys

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Speaker 3: quarterback of all time, and honestly, like if you were

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Speaker 3: to win a Super Bowl automatic Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 2: It's true.

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Speaker 3: I know it's crazy to talk about the Cowboys like that,

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Speaker 3: but when you consider, like how we look at Roger

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Speaker 3: Staubach and Troy Aikman of being like the top two levels,

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Speaker 3: Like when Dak took over for Tony Romo, I mean

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Speaker 3: Tony Romeo had to give a speech and the whole

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Speaker 3: deal like that's gonna be have a better career than

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Speaker 3: Tony Romo, and if if they could win football games,

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Speaker 3: he may even climb higher up on that list.

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Speaker 4: I'll say one quick thing. One you know we you know,

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Speaker 4: we live in this ring culture, right and it's like

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Speaker 4: I gotta do that. There is something to be said

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Speaker 4: about a dude starting his career and ending his career

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Speaker 4: with one organization, even if he doesn't reach the pinnacle,

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Speaker 4: or he doesn't reach it at the top of his game,

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Speaker 4: or he doesn't win a bunch of rings like Mahomes

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Speaker 4: or Steph Curry or whoever. The other thing I will say,

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Speaker 4: I remember years ago when Tony Romo got that big

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Speaker 4: announcing contract, you know, twenty million a year whatever. I

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Speaker 4: was filling in with Arnie Spanier and lady said, what's

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Speaker 4: your first take? And I said, Dak, in the middle

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Speaker 4: of all those contract negotiations, just stay a Cowboy because

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Speaker 4: there's something to starting and finishing your career somewhere. There's

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Speaker 4: also something to being a Cowboys quarterback that takes you

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Speaker 4: through the rest of life. And I think Dak is

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Speaker 4: going to do very well in whatever his pursuits are

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Speaker 4: post career, assuming of course, did he finished his career

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Speaker 4: with the Cowboys.

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Speaker 8: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug

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Speaker 8: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific.

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Speaker 3: Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio, and if you missed

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Speaker 3: any of today's show, you'll want to catch the podcast.

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Speaker 3: Just search Doug Gottlieb wherever you get your podcasts, and

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Speaker 3: right after the show, today's podcast will be posted. Be

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Speaker 3: sure to follow the podcast rightto five stars. You can

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Speaker 2: Again.

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Speaker 3: Just search Doug Gottlib wherever you get your podcasts and

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Speaker 3: you'll find today's full show and a best of version

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Speaker 3: posted right after the end of the show. I'm Dan Bayer.

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Speaker 3: He's Aaron Torres in for Doug today as Doug is

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Speaker 3: coaching in the Virgin Islands, green Bay falling short to

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Speaker 3: Yale today in the opener by six, awaiting their next

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Speaker 3: opponent depending on how things sort out in the bracket.

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Speaker 3: We are no longer waiting for Manzi Blayell. She's here

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Speaker 3: with the game.

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Speaker 8: This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Shit Iowa.

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Speaker 3: Sam's jacked up about it, so is Jason Stewart, But

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Speaker 3: no one more Aaron than Manzi, who's on a twelve

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Speaker 3: after her espresso today, what's happening?

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Speaker 11: All right, we're gonna play a little I got DIBs,

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Speaker 11: that's right, to kick off Friday and this weekend a

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Speaker 11: lot of matchups for this weekend in the NFL. So

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Speaker 11: we're gonna just start with taking DIBs on which matchup

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Speaker 11: you are looking forward to the most. Feel free to

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Speaker 11: jump in at any point, but right now, what matchup

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Speaker 11: of this weekend four week twelve are you looking forward to?

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Speaker 3: The Mike, I got DIBs out of general look at

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Speaker 3: the Colts Chiefs. So we can try to, you know,

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Speaker 3: try to say all this one or that one, but honestly,

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Speaker 3: it's one of these teams is going to have their

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Speaker 3: future turn because if the Chiefs lose, it's like, wow,

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Speaker 3: it isn't the Chiefs year. And if the Colts lose,

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Speaker 3: people are gonna be like, see, we were right about

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Speaker 3: the Colts.

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Speaker 2: So give me Colts Chiefs.

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Speaker 9: I like that, And which is why I'm gonna take

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Speaker 9: Philadelphia at Dallas.

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Speaker 11: Because I feel like Philly seems like they're good, but

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Speaker 11: Dallas doesn't seem like they're that bad.

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Speaker 4: And if they can beat Philly. All of a sudden,

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Speaker 4: things get real interesting. So I'm taking that.

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Speaker 9: I'll take this and Cowboys, so that's okay.

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Speaker 4: I'll just well, I was gonna say, I'll jump on

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Speaker 4: the grenade of Cleveland, Vegas. Yeah, just just that we

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Speaker 4: know is he the guy? Is he not the guy?

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Speaker 4: You know, first team reps. No more excuses like you're

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Speaker 4: either an NFL quarterback or you're not. You know, he's

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Speaker 4: not going to Canton this weekend. But the counter is

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Speaker 4: if he's definitely not an NFL quarterback, will probably know it.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, I.

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Speaker 5: Bet that game raids well. I think people.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely as someone who was on air during that Panthers

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Speaker 4: exhibition and people in the Panthers stadium were wearing shit

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Speaker 4: or jerseys. Yeah, it's good. I bet it's also.

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Speaker 9: In a time that's I think more people will watch,

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Speaker 9: you know, four pm Eastern.

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Speaker 12: Sam, I was gonna say something, but well, quickly we

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Speaker 12: can go okay, go ahead, Dan.

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Speaker 3: I was just gonna say, it's only gonna be a

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Speaker 3: select portion of the country because everybody's got that Eagles

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Speaker 3: Cowboys game.

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Speaker 4: I'm just so I'm jacked up about it.

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Speaker 12: I'm just okay, I'm jacked up about Buccaneers at Rams.

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Speaker 2: That's what I got DIBs on.

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Speaker 4: He's got Buccaneers at Rams. Let's go.

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Speaker 12: Buccaneers have been sliding a little bit. Rams are my

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Speaker 12: Super Bowl champion pick, so let's see what happens.

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Speaker 4: I didn't know that was your champions to take like

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Speaker 4: two or three picks on everything. Though I've been I've

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Speaker 4: been in during March mad I'm not gonna sam it

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Speaker 4: up for brackets going.

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna sam it up right now.

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Speaker 3: I'm just gonna quickly tell you that the Raiders Browns

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Speaker 3: game isn't even entirely shown in Nevada really or Ohio? Yes, wow,

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Speaker 3: So part of Nevada gets Colts Chiefs for their lone

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Speaker 3: CBS game because it's that window a very small portion

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Speaker 3: of the country, and only northern Ohio gets Raiders Browns.

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Speaker 4: What sucks?

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Speaker 2: It's a ticket, right, get YouTube TV?

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Speaker 9: Wow?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 4: Moving out here, fellas, Uh Jason o'dibbs? Did you take TIBs?

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Speaker 8: Did you do?

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Speaker 2: I'm good.

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Speaker 5: You guys got all the good ones.

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Speaker 8: There's one.

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Speaker 4: I love all of your Jacksonville, Arizona Panthers niners about Cincinnati.

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Speaker 2: Just go to the next DIBs.

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Speaker 4: Let's walk here, all right, Thanksgiving not far away.

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Speaker 9: There's a lot that goes on on your Thanksgiving Day.

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Speaker 9: What is your favorite part, your favorite hour of Thanksgiving Day?

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Speaker 3: I love ten am, and that's local to Pacific time,

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Speaker 3: so one o'clock Eastern because that would be about the

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Speaker 3: time the Lions game starts. And I love the Lions

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Speaker 3: home Thanksgiving game more than any other. Or they are

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Speaker 3: going back to the normal kickoff times, but it used

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Speaker 3: to be like nine to thirty for us out in

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Speaker 3: the West Coast. So I'm gonna go ten o'clock because

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Speaker 3: that's when the Lions game starts.

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Speaker 4: Nice. I got three to seven Eastern because I'll be

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Speaker 4: on air with Dan Bayer. Fox Sports Radio can take

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Speaker 4: four hours too, very nice. Yes, it's gonna feel like

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Speaker 4: an hour though while I'm on air.

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Speaker 5: I got DIBs on seven oh one. Seven oh one

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Speaker 5: is when I think the pumpkin pie is gonna be

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Speaker 5: served now. And what we got Ravens Ravens game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Bengals Ravens Bengals.

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Speaker 12: I got DIBs on two PM. Maybe you haven't eaten yet,

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Speaker 12: it's still very much light out daylight out, and you

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Speaker 12: know it gets dark by five pm, so I'll take

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Speaker 12: two pm, nice relaxing.

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Speaker 9: I'm gonna take eleven am because that's right before I

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Speaker 9: have to kind of do the day you go, whether

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Speaker 9: it's work, whether it's meet up with people, whether it's

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Speaker 9: go somewhere. I feel like eleven am is my last

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Speaker 9: hour of solitude on a holiday like Thanksgiving, and that's

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Speaker 9: what it is, and that's game time.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Bonsi, Jason Sam He's Aeron Torres.

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Speaker 3: I'm Dan Bayer. Could Lane Kiffin be on the move

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Speaker 3: sooner than we thought?

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Speaker 2: That's next