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Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody. Welcome to Move the Sticks, presented by

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Speaker 1: New Era and Buck. We're here Pack twelve Media Day

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Speaker 1: and we have got a jam packed episode. But we

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Speaker 1: need to let the folks know because I'm sure there's

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Speaker 1: some out there thinking I don't really care about Pack

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Speaker 1: twelve football. This is This is a fun episode because

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Speaker 1: while we're talking to some coaches, some of the top

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Speaker 1: in the country, it's not just about these Pack twelve teams.

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Speaker 1: It's about team building, culture, all those things. And we're

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Speaker 1: also going to talk to two guys who I think

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Speaker 1: I have a chance to be top ten picks in

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Speaker 1: the upcoming draft. Yeah. Absolutely, I think what is important.

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Speaker 1: We are really been on an off season quest to

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Speaker 1: kind of learn how to build championship teams, and so

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Speaker 1: what is better than talking to coaches who are trying

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Speaker 1: to establish their respective cultures in the locker room. And

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Speaker 1: then when he talks about the players, it's always about

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Speaker 1: the players. So to be able to get some insight

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Speaker 1: on some of the top players that we know we're

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get to those two players and just a

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Speaker 1: little bit, but we want to jump right in here,

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Speaker 1: and that's not what. Let's not mess around because I

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Speaker 1: got a chance to talk to David Shaw, head coach

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Speaker 1: at Stanford, who we've known and worked with for a

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Speaker 1: while here on the draft coverage. Mario Cristo Ball from Oregon,

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Speaker 1: who's really tried to take what he'd learned from Miami,

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Speaker 1: the Universe of Miami as a player, University of Alabama

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Speaker 1: at him getting that job at Arizona State, they're not

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Speaker 1: laughing anymore, buck No, and not laughing anymore. And I

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Speaker 1: think with all those coaches, I think, do you find

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Speaker 1: a common denominated that will come out? Uh? In these all? Right?

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Speaker 1: Here's uh, here's our conversations with some of the best

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Speaker 1: what it takes to win. In two thousand nineteen, all Right,

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Speaker 1: Buck excited to have our good friend Stanford head coach

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Speaker 1: David Shaw joined the show. Coach. First of all, it's

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Speaker 1: great to see you. Uh. You look like you're in

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Speaker 1: phenomenal shape coming into this season. Your goals specifically for you,

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Speaker 1: I know you're always improving and looking to get better.

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Speaker 1: What's your goal to do do better at your job

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Speaker 1: this year? The goal for me, um, coming off here

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Speaker 1: You know, so you have this vision in your head

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Speaker 1: for everybody, you know. So the catch twenty two is

429
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Speaker 1: how do we run all these plays? Then how do

430
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Speaker 1: we execute them at a high level? But then how

431
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Speaker 1: do we get them done in two hours on the

432
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Speaker 1: practice field. So, and it was funny. That was one

433
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Speaker 1: of the things when I got to the NFL because

434
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Speaker 1: of the time constraints, and it was be you know,

435
00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,399
Speaker 1: they called the plane a critical third down that they

436
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Speaker 1: did in a walkthrough on a Thursday, and it was

437
00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,640
Speaker 1: like I could never call that play, like I haven't

438
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Speaker 1: even seen haven't seen it, Like we hit it and

439
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Speaker 1: the walkthrough like wow. But one of the things in

440
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Speaker 1: the NFL that's unique is the teams that are ultimately

441
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Speaker 1: successful when you go through them. Their quarterbacks have been

442
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Speaker 1: there for a long time. So when you listen you

443
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Speaker 1: talk to Philip Rivers and he's like, Oh, yeah, that

444
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Speaker 1: play we ran that No. Nine versus the Giants. I

445
00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:56,080
Speaker 1: think it was the second quarter. This was the cover.

446
00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,520
Speaker 1: I mean, Drew Brees is like that, Tom is like that.

447
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Speaker 1: It's those guys that have a wealth of experience that

448
00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:03,280
Speaker 1: they can count on. And that's why when they talk

449
00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,120
Speaker 1: about in the NFL it's hard for a young quarterback

450
00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:08,480
Speaker 1: to play is because you have to keep it really simple.

451
00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,000
Speaker 1: But if you keep it really simple, you're also really vanilla,

452
00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:12,840
Speaker 1: and the defensive coordinators are too good and they're gonna

453
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Speaker 1: gang up on you. So go ahead. So so to

454
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Speaker 1: that point, So for you at the collegiate level, because

455
00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,160
Speaker 1: now the Russian used to be, you get a high

456
00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,040
Speaker 1: school player, he read shirts, he developed well, now everyone

457
00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:25,159
Speaker 1: is like, oh no, he has to get on the

458
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Speaker 1: field because you won't have him long. How do you

459
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Speaker 1: take that five star player, put him on the field

460
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Speaker 1: and give him enough where it's not so simple that

461
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Speaker 1: everyone knows that you've dumbed down everything. And I think

462
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Speaker 1: that's the key, is the one thing that I'll give

463
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Speaker 1: the high schools. And as you know, coach in high school,

464
00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:40,239
Speaker 1: now they're there are a lot more advanced. There are

465
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Speaker 1: kids coming in. They can can dictate coverage and tell

466
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Speaker 1: you split safeties and quarters and half on one side

467
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Speaker 1: and things that used to take you a year or

468
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Speaker 1: two to kind of get figured out. Um. Marcus Mariott

469
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Speaker 1: is a great example. He only played one year of

470
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Speaker 1: high school football as a starter in his senior year,

471
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Speaker 1: and when we were with him for six days, he

472
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Speaker 1: made the right way. He got to the fourth one

473
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Speaker 1: of his percussion and I was like, how did you

474
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Speaker 1: get there? And he was like, I don't know what

475
00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:04,920
Speaker 1: you call that coverage? But there were a lot of

476
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Speaker 1: guys over there, and I was like, you're a percent correct.

477
00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:11,840
Speaker 1: And then part of it made you think. I'm like,

478
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Speaker 1: we spend an inordered amount of time teaching him cover

479
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Speaker 1: six and cover nine and cover five, and you just

480
00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,239
Speaker 1: let's teach him the plays and the concepts. And so

481
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Speaker 1: we got into more of that and and that's how

482
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Speaker 1: he really kind of flourished. And he was a full feet,

483
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Speaker 1: full field read guy in college because he showed he

484
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Speaker 1: could do that without even being able to. Then he

485
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Speaker 1: learned how to articulate what he was seeing. But there

486
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Speaker 1: are kids that just have that and it's an innate ability.

487
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Speaker 1: And and though that's what you have to try, you

488
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Speaker 1: have to spend some time in the recruiting process of

489
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Speaker 1: meeting them and finding them and um trying to get

490
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Speaker 1: a feeling for what they're all about. If you can

491
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Speaker 1: get a feeling for what they're all about them, that

492
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Speaker 1: makes our jobs a lot easier. My first year in

493
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Speaker 1: northeast Louisiana, that were quarterback coach had been at. It's

494
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Speaker 1: George Haffner. It's an old legendary coach has been at Georgia.

495
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Speaker 1: The o C when herschel walked was there and so

496
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Speaker 1: he wont all these quarterbacks and identify everything he was

497
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Speaker 1: and you could see in the room everybody's heads is been.

498
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Speaker 1: And it finally was like, look, let's just do the

499
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Speaker 1: bunch theory. There's a bunch of guys over there. We're

500
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Speaker 1: going over there. He's like, Okay, I got that bunch theory.

501
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,959
Speaker 1: I can remember that. I love it. Coach. When you

502
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Speaker 1: look at team building, UM quarterback and defensive line, we

503
00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,439
Speaker 1: always thought that's where you gotta almost start. And I

504
00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:17,800
Speaker 1: look at the successful teams that you've been on at

505
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Speaker 1: every level, quarterback and defensive line, you've been in pretty

506
00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,440
Speaker 1: darn good shape there. We'll talk plenty about quarterbacks, defensive lineman.

507
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Speaker 1: What are you looking for when you're evaluating those guys.

508
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 1: We're probably a little different because we're a three or

509
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Speaker 1: four teams, So we need a true not just edge

510
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Speaker 1: talking about edge pass rushers, and we need two tall, long,

511
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Speaker 1: four eye techniques that can kick inside and on nickel downs.

512
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Speaker 1: And um, those guys are hard to find. You know.

513
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Speaker 1: We had the Forest Puckner and Eric conference. You know

514
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Speaker 1: you're talking to one seven um tall, long guys that

515
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Speaker 1: are three d pounders, you know, and I think, um,

516
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Speaker 1: they're the difficult guys to find. And then can you

517
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Speaker 1: truly find a two gap nose guard you know that

518
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Speaker 1: can can anchor? When we have a kid now, who's

519
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Speaker 1: Neil Mafi will be a sophomore force. We got him

520
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Speaker 1: at six oh and we'll go NFL talking six o

521
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Speaker 1: four five four eleven. Yes, he's uh, he's a little

522
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Speaker 1: probably maybe gained a little. He's probably six o four

523
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Speaker 1: seven three sixty, but he's got a base, he's athletic.

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Speaker 1: Where do you find this. He's in the in the

525
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Speaker 1: Bay Area. He's at J. Sara High School actual where

526
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Speaker 1: Brady went to us in the Great young Man. Uh

527
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Speaker 1: gets it is smart. But now you want to truly

528
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Speaker 1: be a two gap team, Like that's what a two

529
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Speaker 1: gap nosguard is. So now we can spill the ball,

530
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Speaker 1: we can get into the C gap. We we we

531
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Speaker 1: needed to still find some longer ends. Um, but we're

532
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Speaker 1: starting to. They're out there. I think you just have

533
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Speaker 1: to have as you know, what are our prototypes and

534
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Speaker 1: then not worried about the kids you miss, like, hey,

535
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Speaker 1: that's six one six one players, a great player, but

536
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Speaker 1: he's not gonna fit in our scheme. And I think

537
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Speaker 1: the guys that are successful is they recruit to their

538
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Speaker 1: scheme and this is what our scheme is all about,

539
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Speaker 1: and this is what fits our scheme, and this is

540
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Speaker 1: how we're gonna we're gonna get this thing going in

541
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Speaker 1: the right direction. So I think that from a D

542
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Speaker 1: line standpoint, Um, you know, that's that's the key thing,

543
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Speaker 1: Like who are who's the Brady Smith's out there like

544
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Speaker 1: that when he was killing it in the league here

545
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Speaker 1: Like where did he come from? You know what I mean?

546
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,680
Speaker 1: But he fit in that system. How about how about

547
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:10,880
Speaker 1: the edge. We've got a couple of guys teaching Lucier South.

548
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,119
Speaker 1: There's another tall, long kid, Josh Woods is a linebacker

549
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:14,880
Speaker 1: that can hurt for us. Last year that we think

550
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 1: can have that, and then we actually have I'll throw

551
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 1: an old school name at Yeah. Um, we took an

552
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Speaker 1: FCS transfer from Illinois State. Um, who's Al Harris's son.

553
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so he's playing. Josh Harris is an outside

554
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Speaker 1: linebacker forest. He just got there. He's six four, he's

555
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Speaker 1: to sixty, but he was about a hundred and eighty

556
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Speaker 1: five pounds coming out of high school. So his only

557
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 1: offers were at the one double A level. UM, as

558
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 1: he started to fill out and grow, Um, they came out.

559
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Speaker 1: He graduated, you know, in four years from Illinois State

560
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Speaker 1: and then came out on his visit and you know,

561
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Speaker 1: it's a really sharp young man and gets it. And

562
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Speaker 1: then I just loved talking to Al about the the

563
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Speaker 1: Bears and in the whole nine yards. But you can

564
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Speaker 1: tell where the body came. But he just matured a

565
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Speaker 1: little bit later. But we're hoping he can come in

566
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Speaker 1: and give us some some some really good valuable snaps

567
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Speaker 1: at the outside of edge for us, that is phenomenal.

568
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Speaker 1: I was trying to do trying to remember my head.

569
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Speaker 1: Were you at Oregon when D'Anthony, when you guys got

570
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Speaker 1: Danthony Thomas, he was his high school stuff. His he

571
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 1: was electric as a high school kid, and they were

572
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Speaker 1: going to play him at a corner. That's how we

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Speaker 1: ended up getting back in with him because I was like,

574
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Speaker 1: they're like, when you play I don't play him any want? Okay, Coach,

575
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Speaker 1: I don't know if this don't make depot, but I'm

576
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Speaker 1: gonna say this because I've been studying like two back

577
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Speaker 1: football the last couple of weeks. I found some old

578
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 1: Oregon take when you are wearing two backs, but do

579
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Speaker 1: Ron Thomas? How how are you doing it with Darron Thomas?

580
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 1: Darren was darn like they're gashing people, Like can you

581
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Speaker 1: really throw Darren Darren's Darren is just a winner. There's

582
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Speaker 1: no other way to say it. Like sometimes it didn't

583
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Speaker 1: look great whatever, but we played Arbor in the National

584
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Speaker 1: Championship game, me through three yards and just the one

585
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 1: thing about Darren Thomas is the single toughest quarterback. It

586
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Speaker 1: did not care there could be an unblocked linebacker plugging

587
00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 1: through the a gap and he would step and throw

588
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Speaker 1: right into him and get hit right underneath the chin

589
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,159
Speaker 1: and get up the next snaps I touchdown pass and

590
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,919
Speaker 1: come off. He he took holacial shots and hung in

591
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Speaker 1: the pocket, never panicked and was just the the under

592
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Speaker 1: the quality that when you talk about quarterbacks and is

593
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Speaker 1: just how actually tough they are to stand in there

594
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 1: like the Roethlisberger. Well, he takes a lot of sacks.

595
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Speaker 1: Even't think most people do. When you have a three

596
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:22,680
Speaker 1: in the pounder chase and you they're throwing the ball

597
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,120
Speaker 1: away and running, they're not standing in there and throwing

598
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 1: the football. And Darren would stand in there and throw

599
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 1: the football with the best there. That's that's you know,

600
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Speaker 1: last one. I'll let you go on this. But doing

601
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 1: those Charger games now and watching Rivers every week, first

602
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:34,959
Speaker 1: of all, I knew he was good when you kind

603
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 1: of casually watch him. When you see him every week, coach,

604
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 1: I'll leave the stadium and I'll go, you know, offensive

605
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 1: line pretty pretty well today, and I'll get back, I'll

606
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 1: watch the tape. I oh my gosh, Philip just built

607
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 1: him out of everything, and he took some holacious shots,

608
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 1: spent some time. No fear. He's no fear, and he's

609
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Speaker 1: his His recall of things is absolutely amazing. And you

610
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 1: talk to guys that coached them and they're like, hey,

611
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Speaker 1: we want to run this route, and he's like, get

612
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,159
Speaker 1: that book over there. I think we ran that No.

613
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Speaker 1: Seven versus Uh. I think it was Seattle up in Seattle.

614
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 1: I think it was a second quarter. Remember there was

615
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 1: a little rain coming down, and then I think we

616
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 1: ran at top down. You want to read a top

617
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,120
Speaker 1: down or bottom And the guy quarterback coach who wasn't

618
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:11,919
Speaker 1: even there, I think he was probably in college in

619
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Speaker 1: Oh seven, is like, how do you know that? He's like, well,

620
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 1: I remember all the passes I thow And you're like, wow,

621
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Speaker 1: so is I know that. I'm sorry, I'm stealing all

622
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 1: this time. I hopefy'll get in trouble, but um recall.

623
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Speaker 1: So one of the things, like I missed on mahomes He.

624
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 1: I didn't meet the kid until he came in the

625
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 1: week before the draft came. So when he came in,

626
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 1: I asked him, I said, TCU, I just threw it

627
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 1: a random TCU. It's third and nine, whatever, Um, you

628
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 1: threw a touchdown pass in the third quarter, What was

629
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 1: the play call, what was the coverage? What'd you see?

630
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 1: Why did you do what you did? And boom boom

631
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 1: boom boom boom boom boom. And I was telling Bucky

632
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Speaker 1: after that, I said, you know, I think the recall

633
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Speaker 1: every great quarterback I talked to you guys unbelievable recall.

634
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Speaker 1: So like talking recruiting kids or scouting kids, like, oh

635
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 1: my gosh, I we got to do a better job

636
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,400
Speaker 1: of figuring out what kind of recall these kids have. Yeah,

637
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: you know, I think some of the things that we

638
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: did in the NFL. We'd send him stuff when they

639
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 1: were coming in in the thirty visit. And then you

640
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 1: also find out if they studied and say, hey, we

641
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 1: sent you some stuff, they're like, yeah, I get on

642
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 1: a board, drop the second play and they could be

643
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: look what or they kild okay and rip it off.

644
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 1: So I think there's there's part to it. I coached

645
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 1: with um a guy in San Francisco, and he was

646
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: a quality control guy for Bill Walsh, and they came

647
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: in for an interview and Bill gave him their playbook

648
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: and he said to him, go study this, and then

649
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 1: came back like four hours later, and goes, tell me

650
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: what the longest play call is, and this kid's brilliant.

651
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: He ripped it off and then boo. And it was

652
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,199
Speaker 1: just stuff like that. But your ability to recall and

653
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 1: can you think on your feet and are you're sharp

654
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 1: or do you want someone asked you a question like

655
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,400
Speaker 1: the panic, like what do you mean when we played

656
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: who you know when they always asked the question because

657
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: they're trying to gain time by some time, by some time. Well,

658
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: that's a great question. I'm glad you asked me that.

659
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: Trying to trying to find it, trying to find it now,

660
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: that's fantastic. Hey, co to, I know where we kept

661
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 1: you a little long. They appreciated this is great. I

662
00:27:56,160 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 1: didn't stay away from somebod excited a year to be

663
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 1: joined by Washington coach Chris Peterson, one of our our

664
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: favorites going back to the scouting days there at Boise,

665
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: but the coach, it's great to see how you doing? Yeah, good,

666
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: thanks for having me on. What's been the focus here

667
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 1: in the off season for you individually? In the program?

668
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 1: The same as always everything. I mean, it really is.

669
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 1: We just kind of try to start from ground zero

670
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:23,439
Speaker 1: and build back forward. And um, I've always kind of

671
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: taken a different approach. Everybody wants to talk about reloading,

672
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 1: and you know, we don't take I I don't think that.

673
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: I think it's like we rebuild every year with the

674
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 1: guys that you lose and those type of things, and

675
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 1: so people don't like to we but I think you've

676
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: got to start from scratch. You take nothing for granted,

677
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 1: and you you rebuild every year. And certainly this year

678
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: is different for us because we lost you know, a

679
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 1: lot of players that it played for us for a

680
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,239
Speaker 1: long time, and so it's an exciting time with a

681
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 1: lot of competition with some young guys and it's it's

682
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 1: a good vibe and it's good energy and it's awesome

683
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: to watch, you know. Coach One one of the things

684
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: we've been doing, we've been going about a culture of

685
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 1: programs and I was talking to one of your players

686
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: and he said this quote that he said he got

687
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 1: from you. How you do small things, that's how you

688
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 1: do all things. Speak on that. What what does that mean? Well,

689
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: you know, it's it really comes down to a game

690
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 1: of details, right, and really you just watched the real

691
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 1: successful people in life, and it's all the details. That

692
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: they take care of and you just watch how they operate,

693
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: and it's all these little small things that add up

694
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 1: to be like game changing stuff. And so that's what

695
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,959
Speaker 1: we say. You know, it's like you you don't think

696
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: it's gonna matter, and all these these little details that

697
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: we're talking about along the way, you know, that's what's

698
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: gonna be game changing. Everybody does the big things pretty well,

699
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: but it's the small things that I think can separate us.

700
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 1: I'm curious on the recruiting board, coach, because we we've

701
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 1: talked about You've mentioned I think you called me your

702
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: o KG. You are kind of guys we always called

703
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: him for the teams we worked for, like this guy

704
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: plays like a raven. This guy, you know, plays like

705
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,719
Speaker 1: an ego. We we had, uh what we knew we

706
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 1: wanted our guys. When you're setting up your recruiting board,

707
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: you guys, you have a way of kind of putting

708
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: a you know, sticker on a guy or a note

709
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: on a guy that says, okay, forget where he is

710
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: right now, this is this isn't okay, g. This is

711
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 1: some way we just want as a dude in our program.

712
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 1: And I mean you, I think you spoke to a

713
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: couple of them here. I mean, those guys are the

714
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:20,959
Speaker 1: epitome of an okay g um. You know, Miles Miles

715
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: Bryant walked on for US and ended up playing as

716
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 1: a true freshman. Nick Harris, who I think is one

717
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 1: of the better centers in the country, was recruited by US,

718
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: and cal Poly ended up playing for US as a

719
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 1: true freshman. And so that's what I'm saying. It's like

720
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: these guys, like we just kind of make our own

721
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 1: opinion and we think we try to find out how

722
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: much they really like football. Everybody talks like, how do

723
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 1: you figure that out? Because it's to challenge for us

724
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: with the college kids. I can't imagine a high school kid.

725
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: It's hard. It's hard, and so we you know, you

726
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: gotta talk to him and you really got to be

727
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: around him. And what happens is everybody thinks they're into football,

728
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 1: but really what everybody likes. Everybody likes to be recruited,

729
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 1: and they're confusing that with like in football, it's like,

730
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: who doesn't like to be recruited? You know, we're talking

731
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: about Game eight and we just lost, and you're sore

732
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: and it's not going well. And you've got that chip

733
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: on your shoulder and you're ready to go back out

734
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: to the field to put some work in to take

735
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: the next you know, it's like, how do you find that?

736
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: And our coaches have just done a really nice job

737
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: of finding so many of those guys. And then you

738
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: find those guys and they are the heartbeat of your

739
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: locker room, and some of the guys that you know

740
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 1: are kind of like that then become that and that's

741
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: what you hope to build. You know, coach, one of

742
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 1: the things that you've been able to be successful at

743
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: is consistently being a team that contends and competes whatever

744
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,719
Speaker 1: it is for the division, the conference title, did eventually

745
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: being able to compete for the national title. What is

746
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: it about the way that you guys do things that

747
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: allows you to kind of attain that level of consistency,

748
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: because that's hard in college football. Yeah, yeah, and so

749
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: you know, I think the probably one of the main

750
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 1: things is just about us. Like it's not about out,

751
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: it's not about these preseason rankings, and it's not about uh,

752
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: you know, game four and oh this is the team

753
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 1: that's really it's just like about us, Like we're not

754
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: even worried about our first game right now, and we

755
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 1: will be a week before we play too. You know, fear.

756
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: It's just about us doing the small things correctly and

757
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: just us changing our standard. You know, it's always about

758
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: the standard. And if you ask those guys, they can

759
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: tell you what the standard is. Their standard is the

760
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: best they've done, you know, not better. And we don't

761
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: ask somebody, Hey, to win this game, you're gonna have

762
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: to play better than everybody. We just need your standard,

763
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: play to the standard, operate to the standard, and if

764
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: we can do that enough, then our standard will change.

765
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 1: And that's what we're trying to do, is just change

766
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: our personal standard. And if everybody's on the same page

767
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 1: doing that, then all of a sudden, the programs can

768
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: move forward and have consistency. What's the toughest thing to

769
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: find right now when you're when you're out recruiting, you know,

770
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 1: and and gosh, in the NFL offensive lineman coach, it's

771
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 1: it's become hard to find these guys at the college

772
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 1: level when you're looking at the high school game. Kind

773
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: of give us a glimpse of the supply and demand

774
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 1: that's out there. Right now. We've done a pretty good

775
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: job of find an offensive lineman that we like and

776
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: can fit us. But I think you're right. It is

777
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: the big guys out there that are hard to find,

778
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: but maybe more particular for us, it's maybe some of

779
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: those edge pass rushers. I think that's why those guys

780
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: are making so much money in the NFL, because they

781
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: can change the game and they're hard to find. Um,

782
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 1: you know, I think they got to develop and they

783
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 1: might look different from when you recruit them to you know,

784
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 1: three years later and four years later. Oh, this is

785
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: what it means that they look so so you're really

786
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: projecting what this guy should look like. And even sometimes

787
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: body type can be a little bit of misleading. You know,

788
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: the guys maybe not exactly what you want him look like,

789
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 1: but he's got that zip off the edge and he's slippery,

790
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 1: and those guys are hard to find. One thing that

791
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: you have been able to find, you've been able to

792
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: find DP successfully and you have you guys have done

793
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: a great job of developing UH players that have gone

794
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 1: on and played in the league. What is the common

795
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: denominated between those guys that have played in your second

796
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: and dry Why have they been able to except at

797
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: your level? You know again it's twofold. Um I think

798
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 1: you know Jimmy Lake um ur dB coach coordinator and

799
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,760
Speaker 1: Will Harris was our dB good. I think those guys

800
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: really know what they're looking for. Who they want. These

801
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,439
Speaker 1: old kag what it looks like to them. And there'll

802
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: be a lot of guys that we pass on. They

803
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 1: are like heavily recruited. There's just like, that's not the

804
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: guy we're looking for. So I want to think they

805
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 1: know what they're really looking for. And then too, they

806
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,320
Speaker 1: do a heck of a job coaching them. They really do.

807
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 1: I mean, they just it's they they they're great teachers.

808
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 1: It's simple, but it's not easy to do, but it

809
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 1: but and it's the same stuff over and over and

810
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: it's just awesome to watch the progression of these young guys. Coach,

811
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 1: you said something because it sounds like you really empower

812
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 1: those guys to kind of find the right kind of

813
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,359
Speaker 1: guys for how they want to do it. How tough

814
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 1: is that as a head coach to really have the

815
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: trust of your assistance that they know exactly what they're

816
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: doing and they're going to bring in the right kind

817
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 1: of guys for the program. And beyond one thing I've

818
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: been really lucky about. Most of those guys have been

819
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: we've been together for a long time, so that really helps.

820
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,879
Speaker 1: But that's you know, that's my job is that kind

821
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 1: of set the overall vision of what that should look like,

822
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: what an o KG looks like, um, and and what

823
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: we're recruiting to the parameters of like what this should be,

824
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 1: and then empower them. You go get them. This is

825
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 1: your crew. I'm here to assist you, like, this is

826
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: what it should look like. We all get this, and

827
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,320
Speaker 1: now you go to work and how can I help

828
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: you get these guys to come here, or how can

829
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: I help you, uh elevate to play your group? Like

830
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 1: that's your You're the head coach of those guys. I'm

831
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: your assistant. And that's how I think about it, Like

832
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: I got an image of you, kind of drawn the

833
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 1: menu and got the men for you, and you gotta

834
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: go out there and go find it all. Right back

835
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 1: joined by again one of our favorites, love visiting with

836
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: herm coach, herm adverts Marizona stage coach. How you doing

837
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 1: I'm doing well. UM. Feel more comfortable walking in here

838
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 1: this year than I did last year. Trust me. I

839
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 1: kept walking over to the ESPN thing thing and am

840
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: I still working for him? No, I'm actually the coach.

841
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: And then I walked in this year and they got

842
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,439
Speaker 1: me on three sholds right away coming out of the box.

843
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: And I called him and say, hey, man, I still

844
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 1: work for you. Guys they say, no coach, but we

845
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 1: kind of want you. And I said, okay, that's all good,

846
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 1: that is fantastic. How is this second go round for you? Ben?

847
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 1: You year through this thing. I think when you go

848
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 1: through it all the first year, the thing that you

849
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: learned and you have to understand is that, uh, you

850
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,800
Speaker 1: have a brand new staff of men that never coached

851
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,760
Speaker 1: with you. Uh. You have young people that have basically

852
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 1: watching on television. And the thing I asked him in

853
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: our first meeting says, let me earn your trust. And

854
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: I think, um, it needs to be earned. They respect

855
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,240
Speaker 1: you because you have the title of the head coach,

856
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: but I think they got to earn your trust. And

857
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: I think it comes not only in practice, but it

858
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 1: comes when the game start. I want to touch on

859
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: that real quick here, Buck, because I was just talking

860
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 1: to somebody just had a meeting with it with the

861
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: doc Rivers and he was saying that Docs, there you go,

862
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: so you you appreciate this thing, because he said, Doc said,

863
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: when Mike for Tello would walk into the room, he said,

864
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 1: if the guys didn't know who, Mike for Tello was like, hey,

865
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: you know who. And then as soon as said like,

866
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 1: that's the head coach was like, oh, coach, what can

867
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: I do? How can I you know? And he said

868
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: and then Doc said where he is now, where the

869
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 1: game's changed with the kids, where Doc has to go

870
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 1: over and try and earn the trust of these players.

871
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like totally flipped. Have you noticed that

872
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 1: just from your time playing to where you are now?

873
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: But but you know, you've always respected the title, But

874
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 1: but you gotta you gotta earn the trust behind the title.

875
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 1: And and that's work, and that's and that's the caring,

876
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: and that's the understanding, and that's the conversations you have,

877
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 1: not not to the masses, but the individual conversations you

878
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: have with players and in the locker room. You know,

879
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: I'm one of those guys. Either just two ways to lead.

880
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: You either lead by your seat or you leave with

881
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,839
Speaker 1: your feet. I leave with my feet, So I leave

882
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 1: with my feet. I'm everywhere. I'm in the training room,

883
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: I'm in the locker room, I'm in the equipment room.

884
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: I'm never in my office us and my door is

885
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,399
Speaker 1: always open, and so the players know. I might get

886
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,240
Speaker 1: ten players and in a day coming in my office,

887
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: just sitting on the couch. And I tell him, when

888
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 1: you walk into say, don wanna talk about football? I said,

889
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: what's on your mind? There's nothing. I tell them, there's

890
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 1: nothing you can ask me right now that have not heard.

891
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: I don't have an answer for I said, because I

892
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 1: do know this in my short time of being on

893
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 1: this earth six or five years, and everything I learned,

894
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 1: I've actually learned somebody else. So I tell them I'm

895
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: an information giver man. You just gotta ask me, and

896
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it to you. I'm gonna get and

897
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it to you straight. There ain't gonna

898
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,280
Speaker 1: be no get like no, you know, no nice story.

899
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 1: You want the story. I'm giving it to you straight.

900
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,800
Speaker 1: Because I think when you give it to him straight,

901
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: when you tell them why right from the gate, that's

902
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: what they want to know. And when you do that,

903
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: they you're in the trust. They get it. So Coach,

904
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 1: so so much of what we've been hearing about when

905
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: it comes to building a winning program is about the

906
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: culture in the locker room. When I think about Arizona State,

907
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 1: if I had to pin you down on what is

908
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: the culture in the locker room so ppposed to look like?

909
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: What does it look like? It's a player running rocker room,

910
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: and any good team as the players running, they have

911
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: a voice and obviously talent. You know, coaches, coaches don't

912
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: get players talent. God give them talent? You kidding me? Now?

913
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: You give them information. You don't give no player no talent.

914
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,919
Speaker 1: Coach said, I'm they never get no player, no talent.

915
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: Man getting me no players get you nobody coach giving

916
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 1: me no talent. I mean I did my own when

917
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 1: it's might belong to me. Man, you didn't get this

918
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 1: to me. Coach. Now you give me the information and

919
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 1: if it's information that can make me better. Now you

920
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 1: got my attention. See how do you how do you

921
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 1: grab their attention? Okay? What can I say that? They go? Oh,

922
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:44,399
Speaker 1: I've been listening to coach. Now what helped me right

923
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: away with these guys is a lot of these guys

924
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 1: wanna continue to play well. I've been to heaven for

925
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 1: thirty years. So if I say something, guess what they're like.

926
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 1: They're listening to coach. And what's unique about this is

927
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: that after this year, we we Nakil gets drafted, Wrenn

928
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,280
Speaker 1: gets drafted, We got four of the guys signing free agents.

929
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 1: They go to these mini camps, right, And so I

930
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 1: told him it took us. This is a pro. This

931
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 1: is this is a pro man. Everything we do we

932
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:15,879
Speaker 1: practice that way, we coach that way, we meet that way.

933
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: Everything's processing. They came back, they said, coach. When I

934
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 1: walked in the building, man, it was like I was

935
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: in here. I said, just to tell you players that

936
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: tell your teammates that, right, And so now they get it.

937
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: They're like coaches. That's what we do. That's kind of

938
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 1: our d n A. That's what we're trying to become coaches.

939
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:37,879
Speaker 1: A lot of people know you obviously from the TV

940
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 1: shorte of things, and then know you as a personality.

941
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: But everybody I know that's ever been around you they

942
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 1: say the same thing about you as a teacher. And

943
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 1: we talked about it in coaching. Right now, Man, there's

944
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 1: not there's not enough good teachers. So how do you

945
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: not only empower your staff, help your staff, teach your staff,

946
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 1: but then to hire people to find teachers. How do

947
00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 1: you do that? Well, that's critical and you make a

948
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: great point, and that's why Marvin was a part of

949
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: our staff as well. Now so so so, now, well

950
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: we look here that have been in the National Football

951
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: League and our staff. It starts with Ray. He's been

952
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 1: in the league, as you know, Scotty Grant. There's ten guys.

953
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of information there. Now bringing Marvin

954
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: in it's some new information because all of a sudden,

955
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: it's like, Marv, here's the deal. Look at our drills.

956
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 1: What drills can these coaches improve in to make these

957
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: players better? How can we This is the pact, the

958
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 1: practice schedule, the structure. It's a pro schedule. Marbint loosens

959
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: a procas says, what did you do a little different?

960
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 1: Tell me something here He goes, well, coach, we did

961
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: this year. It's okay, let's move this around. So all

962
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: that information that he has, he gives it to me.

963
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,800
Speaker 1: He gives instar our coaches. If you're a young coach,

964
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 1: let me something. If you're a young coach and you

965
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 1: aspire to be a head coach or coordinator. You're a

966
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 1: college coach and you've got Marvin Lewis and me that

967
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 1: have over fifty years of experience in the national football

968
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 1: you think they're not gonna listen. They're gonna listen. It's

969
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 1: just so it's kind of like, but that's the program.

970
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 1: That's what we're selling. I mean, that's starts recruiting. You know,

971
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: like your message here it is boys and now what's

972
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: great is you get a couple of players that get drafted,

973
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, the next year you

974
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 1: get a couple more and a couple more. Then it

975
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,280
Speaker 1: becomes a place like man them doing them them catches,

976
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 1: like they're going to the league. Well, we all say

977
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: what we want. Look, we wanted to be student athletes.

978
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: The way our program set up is this. Some kids

979
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: we know are three years. They're gonna come in and

980
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 1: start the freshman year and they're going in three years.

981
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: Two things have to happen. They have to graduate. Critical

982
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: that's where we make them go to some school and

983
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: at a s U and three years. If you do

984
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: it right, you can graduate in three years. And if

985
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: you're a good enough player and you will get drafted

986
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: high enough go. I want them to go. So we

987
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 1: recruit certain players, no one, they're got gonna be here

988
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: three years, he going, and once they go, it helps

989
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 1: the program. So it's all. It all kind of works.

990
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: It's funny scouts would come to our practices and then go, coach,

991
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 1: this is a pro practice. So yeah, that's what they do, guys,

992
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: the Scots. He said, Coach, this is like, this is

993
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: a pro practice. I said, yeah. If you want to

994
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 1: see the script and and and then they say it,

995
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 1: they're gonna coach this is like, yeah, this is what

996
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 1: we do, man, this is how we do it. So

997
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: so coach being there removed, heaven spent you said, thirty

998
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,240
Speaker 1: plus years football Heaven coming all the way back down

999
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: eighteen to twenty two years. You know, you used to

1000
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: do to high school so you have some exposure to

1001
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,439
Speaker 1: the five stars or whatever. How different has it been

1002
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 1: having a locker room with eighteen to twenties versus one

1003
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 1: that may have more men in the locker. Well, their

1004
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: emotions are all over the place. And that's why I've

1005
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 1: always said this about college football. That's that's why there's

1006
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 1: always upsets because you never know the emotion of an

1007
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: eighteen or nineteen year old on game day they broke

1008
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 1: up with their girlfriend. This happened at home, whatever happened

1009
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the emotion of that kid or

1010
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: a couple of kids. It keepers as it's like, what

1011
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 1: has happened? How do you manage that? It's hard. That's

1012
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 1: why you always have to have this conversation with players.

1013
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: Have to feel comfortable coming to you. My players after

1014
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: a year now, they come to me with everything. They

1015
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: flat walk them off, said coach. I said, what you got,

1016
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 1: I got this. They know this. When it's family, you

1017
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,839
Speaker 1: go do what you gotta do. Man, you go home,

1018
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: you go, you're going, man, go get it straight, come back.

1019
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 1: They can trust that I'll have their best interest in

1020
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 1: mind because at the end, I mean, these are young men.

1021
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 1: They're there are a lot in life now is tougher

1022
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 1: than ours because it is. They don't get to make

1023
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: an error because everybody captures it. Oh boy, oh boy,

1024
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 1: you can't make an error. It's like, oh it was

1025
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 1: like hey, who who whoa whoa whoa whoa. A lot

1026
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,959
Speaker 1: of people forget when they're eighteen nineteen. I tell people

1027
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 1: all the time in the National Football League here, I

1028
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 1: played in oh gosh, I think the Raiders. What if

1029
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 1: they had those calls for the Raiders after league would

1030
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 1: be suspended, but there was not, there was different. So

1031
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 1: is this kind of like, come on, man, let them

1032
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: be eighteen to nineteen year olds. Well, Buck, I feel like,

1033
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 1: you know, the goal of every one of our podcasts.

1034
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 1: If we're gonna talk about what's our mission statement, what's

1035
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,399
Speaker 1: our goal, it's a selfish goal. We we individually want

1036
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: to learn more about the game of football. And what

1037
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: an opportunity to hear these guys talk about how they're

1038
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 1: building their teams, how they're building their cultures. Well, absolutely

1039
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 1: not DJ. Obviously we're both note takers, and so you

1040
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 1: look and you look at all the scribble around the

1041
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 1: the death with the stuff that we've learned, I think

1042
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 1: there's some common de nominators that came out. We heard

1043
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 1: player run teams, people talk about empowering their players to

1044
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 1: be able to do things. We heard coach Peterson tends drink.

1045
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: Coaches got a lot of left today, the importance of

1046
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 1: the strength coaches, coaches, the programs, what they do. But

1047
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 1: then one of the big things for me was the details.

1048
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: Everyone had a different way of talking about the importance

1049
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: of doing the little things. But you can see the

1050
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: best teams otherwise. They really pay attention to the small

1051
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: detail how you do anything, so how you do everything,

1052
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: something along those lines, and I love that line. Uh. Well,

1053
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: great to catch up with those coaches, but also some

1054
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 1: players here. We got a chance to visit with talk

1055
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 1: to a whole host of of Pac twelve players and

1056
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: we'll use some of that audio a little bit later

1057
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 1: on as we get towards the draft with some of

1058
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: these guys that are legitimate, big time draft prospects. Um

1059
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 1: but to stand out above the rest if you're doing

1060
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: your homework early for the NFL Draft, two names you

1061
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: need to know obviously Justin Herbert the quarterback at Oregon,

1062
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: but Lavisca Chenault, who is in a dead heat in

1063
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:50,879
Speaker 1: my opinion with Jerry Judy different style wide receivers. Jerry

1064
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 1: Judy there at Alabama. I think everybody knows Jerry Judy is.

1065
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if everybody in the country, uh knows

1066
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: who Laviska Chanald is. You need to find out because

1067
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 1: he he is a freak show. He is a nominal,

1068
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 1: phenomenal football player. And we got a chance to catch

1069
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: up with both of these potential top ten picks oreganst

1070
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert in Colorado's Laviska Chanel. Alright, buck, we got

1071
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert, quarterback from Oregon. I think, Justin, this is

1072
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: our third year visiting with you here at Pack twelve

1073
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: media day. I want to start out first of all

1074
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:19,919
Speaker 1: with where you are wait wise, last year, we saw

1075
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,879
Speaker 1: you take a huge jump up in your wait where

1076
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 1: are you right now? You look good? Man, I think, uh,

1077
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 1: I think about the same way to forty h I

1078
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 1: kind of hovered around there and and kind of just

1079
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: worked on speed this year. Gosh, you're carrying two forty

1080
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 1: pretty well, my friend, you look good. Look good. I

1081
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 1: could carry one car. So justin looking back at um,

1082
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 1: you know your your previous season. What were some of

1083
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: the goals that you had in the all season? Some

1084
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 1: of the things that you want to work on going

1085
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: into your last game. I think to keep taking steps forward.

1086
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 1: I think at times we were playing really good football

1087
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: last year. The first five or six games, we were

1088
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 1: moving the ball really well, playing good defense, and um,

1089
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: we're just we're just moving the ball. And I think

1090
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 1: that's one of the biggest things. And later on in

1091
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:57,280
Speaker 1: the year we kind of falter. We kind of slipped

1092
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 1: and um didn't play the type of football that we

1093
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 1: wanted to. And I think that's one of the big

1094
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 1: reasons that we we all came back and wanted to

1095
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 1: finish this this year strong. Yeah, for you specifically, how

1096
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: difficult was that decision to decide to come back. Yeah,

1097
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 1: it was. It was really tough. It was. It's a

1098
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 1: it's a tough situation to be put into, but I

1099
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 1: had a great support system, great family members that were

1100
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: around me, and and it was ultimately led to make

1101
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 1: my own decision and to us, I was happy with it.

1102
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 1: So and in making that decision and coming back, like obviously,

1103
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: last year, you kind of spent your your career, you're

1104
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: a campaign under the microscope. Do you feel the outside

1105
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,760
Speaker 1: pressure when you hear all of the people talking about

1106
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: your draft prospects when you're really trying to focus in

1107
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: and just having a fine, a great senior season. Yeah,

1108
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 1: I think that's I think that's stuff. But I think

1109
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 1: going into this year, we there's there's no pressure, there's

1110
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 1: no there's no uh talk about that. So it's it's

1111
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 1: just football. It's able to just focus on this year

1112
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: and our guys and and go into it and be

1113
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: happy about it, or if you felt the most growth

1114
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 1: in your own game here over the summer. Um, I

1115
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,839
Speaker 1: think consistency kind of like I said, you know, we

1116
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 1: we kind of struggle to times, and I think partially

1117
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 1: it is it was a lot of my fault and

1118
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 1: so um kind of just taking every practice and and

1119
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: being complete throughout the entire practice, throughout the entire week

1120
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: and and ultimately through the entire year. So you recently

1121
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: spent some time down to Demanding passing Academy. Obviously those

1122
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: guys are well respected. Uh what were some of you

1123
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: think that you were trying to learn from Eli and

1124
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 1: paid Man and when you had an opportunity to be

1125
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,839
Speaker 1: around them. Yeah, I think we we kind of talked

1126
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: about being a leader and how you you carry yourself

1127
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 1: around your guys, and and how you watch film and

1128
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: and just how you be the quarterback, because the quarterback

1129
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 1: it's unlike any other position on the team, and and

1130
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 1: you have to carry yourself in a in a certain way.

1131
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:32,919
Speaker 1: One of the things we look at you always looking

1132
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: at some adversity guys have been through and how they've

1133
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:36,359
Speaker 1: come out the other side of it. Can you give

1134
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 1: us an example just from your own background. Could be

1135
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 1: on the field, could be off the field, just some

1136
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: adversity you've had to battle through. I broke my femur

1137
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: my junior year of high school. UM, and that was

1138
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: pretty tough. So I had to sit out for football

1139
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 1: and basketball. UM. Took a lot long time off and

1140
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 1: kind of rehab and kind of learned how to learn

1141
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: how to walk again. UM, but that was tough for sure.

1142
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 1: I want to ask you on that. On that front basketball,

1143
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 1: we talked about it all the time. UM. Scouting wise, quarterbacks,

1144
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 1: there is there is a lot the quarterbacks in the

1145
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 1: NFL are good basketball players. Had a basketball background. Give

1146
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 1: us a scouting reporting you as a basketball player. But

1147
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,439
Speaker 1: I wasn't a very good score I could I could

1148
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 1: get rebounds though, I uh, i'd played the defense and

1149
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 1: get rebounds and kind of just do the dirty word. No.

1150
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 1: But it's funny because when we talk to coaches, coaches

1151
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 1: love quarterbacks that have a basketball background. What are some

1152
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 1: of the things that you can take from basketball to

1153
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,240
Speaker 1: apply to the football field to happybs the coastal quarterback,

1154
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 1: I think football footwork is huge. I think to be

1155
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: a basketball you have to you have to have good

1156
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 1: footwork and be able to move around. And I think

1157
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,359
Speaker 1: that's something that's really important in the quarterback game. One

1158
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 1: of the questions I know you're gonna get when you

1159
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: do go through the draft process. People canna say, Okay,

1160
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 1: look where you grew up and look at where you

1161
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 1: went to school. Um, now we'll fast forward a little

1162
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 1: bit here. You you're being able to transfer from translate

1163
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 1: your you know, leadership style and all that, out of

1164
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: the Northwest and being put in any other area of

1165
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 1: the country. Um, how do you go about thinking long

1166
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 1: term being able to prepare yourself for that when it

1167
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,040
Speaker 1: eventually happens. Yeah, that's a that's a great question. And

1168
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 1: I think fortunately we have we have so many guys

1169
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 1: from across the country, um, in our own locker room

1170
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 1: that uh that it's it's it's helpful being able to

1171
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 1: address all those guys and and just being around them

1172
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 1: and learning from where they're from and things like that.

1173
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 1: You know, now, you said you had a group of

1174
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: guys that wanted to come back to kind of finish

1175
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 1: it off the right way in your mind, what is

1176
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 1: finishing it off the right weight? Until Edward, I think, uh,

1177
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 1: to do better than we did last year, I think

1178
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 1: to give our best. Um, I think there were times

1179
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 1: last year where we lost games that I think we

1180
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 1: could have won. Um leave, we left someone out on

1181
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 1: the table. And I think that that kind of feeling

1182
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: kind of stuck with us, and and that's something that

1183
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 1: we wanted to fix us here. Look at the schedule

1184
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 1: and where you guys start off and where you get going.

1185
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 1: I mean, just as a competitor, how great is it

1186
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 1: to just get right into it? Such a great opportunity

1187
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 1: to be on center stage like that. It's it's a

1188
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 1: lot of fun. And and our guys we've been fired

1189
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 1: up about and getting ready and couldn't be more excited

1190
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: for it. Well, and think about that, for you like

1191
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 1: to be front and center play a marketing game. How

1192
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 1: excited will you be personally to have an opportunity to

1193
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: kind of show off. Yeah, it's it's it will be

1194
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 1: a lot of pressure, but it's a gift. It's a

1195
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 1: great opportunity for us to go make a statement and

1196
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 1: and uh the pack twelve sec matchup, it's a it's

1197
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 1: a lot of fun for sure. Have you dug in

1198
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:10,879
Speaker 1: any other tape yet over the off season. Yeah, we've

1199
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 1: watched a lot of a lot of their stuff. We're

1200
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 1: we've had meetings and kind of gone over their stuff

1201
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: and and uh, I think a couple other opponents as well.

1202
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 1: How how how much of a challenge is it though?

1203
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:20,879
Speaker 1: I mean, you've got a huge opponent. For those who

1204
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 1: don't know it is, it's all burned right, you're right

1205
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: out to shoot. So you get a chance to play

1206
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 1: a big SEC team. How do you a, you know,

1207
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 1: stay folcus a big game, get get ready for that game,

1208
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,359
Speaker 1: but not put you know, all your eggs in one

1209
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 1: basket where it's oh my gosh, we are so so

1210
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 1: much on this game. Don't make it bigger than it is.

1211
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 1: How is that a challenge? Yeah? I think one of

1212
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 1: the things we try not to look too far ahead.

1213
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 1: We I mean, we still have to go through a

1214
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 1: fall camp. We still do a lot long time until then.

1215
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 1: And and uh, I mean we were we were looking

1216
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 1: at him spring practice and kind of just realize that, hey,

1217
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 1: we've got a long long time and we gotta focus

1218
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 1: on ourselves as well. Last question from me, then I'll

1219
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 1: get you and let you go here, just trying to

1220
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:58,959
Speaker 1: learn more about your personality wise, last uh, last show

1221
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 1: you maybe Bingeoire wached on on Netflix or what? What? What?

1222
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:05,240
Speaker 1: What have you watched outside of the sport of football

1223
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 1: that you're into that that's caught your eye. That was

1224
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 1: a big Game of Thrones fan. Okay, there you go.

1225
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 1: Well what did you like about it? I think it

1226
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 1: was just so in depth. There's so much detail about

1227
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: it that everything from season one made sense in season

1228
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 1: eight and and it kind of just all tied in

1229
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 1: really so as somebody who never got into here's the reasons,

1230
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 1: like the whole dragon thing, Like I just I'm not

1231
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 1: a dragon, flying spewing fired dragons, Like I just can't

1232
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: get into that. Man, what did we miss? It was

1233
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:37,359
Speaker 1: so popular. It's pretty cool. It's uh I mean yeah,

1234
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 1: as as as soon as you get past like the

1235
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 1: magic and the dragons and stuff. But it's it's really

1236
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:44,799
Speaker 1: cool and it's it was a fun. So we're even

1237
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,319
Speaker 1: like Harry Potter too. No, I was never into that. Okay,

1238
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 1: that's where I draw the line. I can accept Game

1239
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 1: of Harry Potter. Wizards, I'm out. I'm out. On I

1240
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 1: give you a dragon or two, but Wizards, I'm done.

1241
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 1: That's where I get out. Hey, best of luck this year, man,

1242
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 1: it's great to catch up with you. I know we'll

1243
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,720
Speaker 1: be seen you as you go through the process. Leavisca

1244
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 1: Chenault from Colorado and Levisca I gotta I'm gonna read

1245
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 1: a little bit some notes from you for you. Okay.

1246
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 1: So I didn't watch some players over the summer and

1247
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, start working on the draft a

1248
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 1: little bit early. UM, so I'm gonna read you some notes.

1249
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 1: See if this player sounds familiar, if it if it

1250
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:16,879
Speaker 1: rings a bell with you, Okay, Um, this guy lines

1251
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 1: up in the slot. UM strong, He's strong after the catch,

1252
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 1: He's elusive. Uh some wildcat touchdowns, very athletic and his

1253
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 1: release takes snaps as a wing as a running back.

1254
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 1: Um attacks the ball. Uh gets in and out. Uh

1255
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 1: smooth and out of transition. Game winning td on from

1256
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 1: the vertical little vertical route from the slots against Nebraska.

1257
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 1: Bounces off tackles, he runs over corners. He's explosive on

1258
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 1: fly sweeps. A lot of quick hitters, long touchdowns. Uh.

1259
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:48,439
Speaker 1: Special player. They sound familiar at all? Sound like, yeah,

1260
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 1: that would be you. That's you, dude. You are you

1261
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:53,839
Speaker 1: are a bad man. Dude. I knew, I knew and

1262
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 1: just kind of seen you in flashes. Uh, this is

1263
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:57,799
Speaker 1: a good player. When I watched the tape and how

1264
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 1: they everything you did for that football team last year.

1265
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 1: What do you got for an encore after what you

1266
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 1: did last year? We got left, I got everything that

1267
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:11,840
Speaker 1: um tank, tank, back foot field up. Um. Excited about

1268
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 1: our new culching staff and and ready to be ready

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Speaker 1: to see what this what this year it takes us.

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00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 1: You're talking about that new coaches they have. Coach Tucker

1271
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 1: comes over. Obviously he had been a Georgia, had been

1272
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:25,880
Speaker 1: at Alabamia previously. Um. What is he kind of brought

1273
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 1: to the program as a leader, as a lady. He

1274
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 1: brought that that that mindset, that winning mindset, that dog mindset. UM,

1275
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 1: the mindset to go out and and give you all

1276
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 1: a hundred tempercent effort with everything you do. Um, that's

1277
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 1: just been the main thing. He likes to win. He

1278
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 1: want to win. We want to win. So, like I said,

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00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 1: I'm excited for this season. You're gonna have a chance

1280
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 1: this year. You know, just kind of going through and

1281
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,399
Speaker 1: watching you, uh to run some more routes. I'm gonna

1282
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 1: get you more routes on the tree and let you

1283
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:57,439
Speaker 1: do everything Um. Last year, a lot of quick hitters,

1284
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 1: get the ball in your hand, let you go. Uh

1285
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 1: this new offense, is there going to be some room

1286
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 1: for you to kind of show what you can do

1287
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 1: a little bit in the rest of your rope tree? Oh,

1288
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 1: most definitely. But also haven't really put anything in with

1289
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 1: me yet because I was hurt this past spring. So

1290
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 1: but we we've talked about it. We we got something,

1291
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 1: We've got something cooking. I like him, but he's got

1292
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 1: a little Julio to him. He's got a little bit

1293
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 1: of Julio. Can't you can't go wrong with it. Julio

1294
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 1: Jones comparison. I think this is something that we're beginning

1295
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:28,280
Speaker 1: to see in the league. We're seeing these big, physical

1296
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 1: wide receivers on the perimeter dominate. UM. Talk about what

1297
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 1: it's like to be out there lined up opposite of

1298
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 1: corner knowing physically that you can overwhelm it with your

1299
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 1: toughness and physicality. You said, what was the question that

1300
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 1: I said? What is it like to have their mindset

1301
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 1: that when you line up and you look at the

1302
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:47,439
Speaker 1: corner opposite you, to know that you physically can dominate him.

1303
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 1: Never got that question before, Um, what is your What

1304
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:52,800
Speaker 1: is your mind set like when you take the field,

1305
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 1: Like when you're lined up in the stands is third

1306
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 1: third and it's some money down. What is your mind

1307
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 1: set like? What are you thinking? I'm I'm act like

1308
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 1: a zombie. I'm gonna get this first down no matter what.

1309
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 1: And I'm by any means. Um. I'm just I don't know.

1310
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 1: I don't know what else to say. Now, you're just

1311
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:14,360
Speaker 1: in the zone doing your thing. Now, have you had

1312
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:15,879
Speaker 1: a chance to look at an these other receivers around

1313
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 1: the country, like Jerry Judy. Have you seen some clips

1314
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 1: on him? Yeah, I've seen. Oh yeah, he's nice. Now,

1315
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 1: how would you stack how do you stack yourself up

1316
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 1: with Jerry? Because this is gonna be a discussion we're

1317
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 1: gonna be having and personnel Department is gonna be having

1318
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 1: all over the NFL stacking you guys up. What's the

1319
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 1: difference between you two? Well, I just feel like he's

1320
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 1: he's already different because of his size, and that's just

1321
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 1: the main thing. He's he supposed to be quit fast size.

1322
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 1: That's just that's the difference that you got about what

1323
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 1: thirty on? What are you right now? Goodness, gracious, are

1324
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 1: you gonna run man, my plan is running in tween

1325
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 1: four four Yeah, that'll play or four play. Were the

1326
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 1: guys that you look at on Sundays then the NFL

1327
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 1: that you patted your game? App Hold yo, John, Um,

1328
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 1: Larry Fish drove a bum? What about a B? Because stylistically,

1329
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 1: you guys are a little different than you're a big

1330
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 1: physical guy. What about a B to fascinate issue? His

1331
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 1: his work at it? Something else? If you caught bricks?

1332
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 1: Have you seen him doing the brick thing dropping catching

1333
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 1: the bricks? Do? Yeah? Yeah, you're doing You're doing it

1334
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 1: with your slides on, with your loafers on, like he's

1335
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 1: doing it. I ain't. I ain't did that one yet.

1336
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 1: But check, hey, Buck, you say that. Check his shoes.

1337
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 1: Check I'll see them, I'll see them. Tell the folks

1338
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 1: what he's rocking down here. He's got some dultchout looking

1339
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 1: smooth grade goes along. Wait now in college, I love it, Man,

1340
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 1: Tell me about your quarterback Steven Montez. The guy will

1341
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 1: be talking about us. We go to the draft next year. Um,

1342
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 1: third year you're starting. Um, he's a vet, he's smart,

1343
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 1: he's quick, um, and he's gonna help us win a

1344
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 1: lot of games. Um, we didn't built our bond up

1345
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 1: a lot more than last year. UM just not me

1346
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 1: with the whole team, the whole offense. Um, I'm ready.

1347
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 1: I'm ready to see how he come out. If you

1348
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 1: come out with that, with that that mindset, and we're

1349
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 1: gonna be something special, last thing for me and then

1350
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 1: we'll let you run. But he's he's on Twitter as

1351
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 1: Bucky at Bucky Brooks. I'm at move the sticks. I

1352
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 1: want you to go, and I know you got it.

1353
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 1: I want you to give me your nastiest dunk that

1354
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 1: you've got on video. You know you had somebody do it.

1355
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 1: You just have to tag. I just want to see it.

1356
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 1: We just want to see it. So we just want

1357
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 1: to know because I I gotta feel a nice one

1358
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 1: out the ducks out there. We just kinda want to

1359
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 1: see if you got Yeah, you have one of those.

1360
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 1: So here, hold on, hold on, you got a piece

1361
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 1: of paper? Here, hold on, give me a little piece

1362
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 1: of paper. Can you rip this thing off? Here you go, Buck,

1363
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 1: just write our handles down there for him. So we've

1364
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 1: got to make sure that gets handed. We need we

1365
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 1: need to see that. Um. I remember Nelson Aglar when

1366
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 1: he was coming out of USC A couple of years ago.

1367
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 1: He had a dunk in a high school game. Was

1368
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 1: nasty and running up to the draft, duncing on people

1369
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 1: are just in the gym. You can just be in

1370
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 1: l a fitness I don't care. And then I go

1371
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 1: touch the basketball court a little bit. Okay, there we go.

1372
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 1: It's done. That's your homework. So you got some homework

1373
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 1: assignment for you. That's that's gonna do it for us.

1374
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. But we appreciate you. I appreciate

1375
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 1: it well. But I told you Julio, that was the

1376
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 1: name that reminded me. Uh when I watched the tape

1377
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 1: Leavisca Chanal. He's got Julio Jones, tom and Um. I

1378
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 1: like the quiet confidence he had. Oh, he had a

1379
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 1: lot of quiet confidence. But more importantly, he has the

1380
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 1: NFL body. And I can see the comparisons with Julio Jones,

1381
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 1: big physical, uh, a guy who is very versatile in

1382
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 1: the way that he plays. You talked about the way

1383
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 1: they were able to get the ball in his hands

1384
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 1: in a variety of ways. I think that expands with

1385
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 1: Mail Tucker coming over, and that's some of the things

1386
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 1: that they want to do with him. He is a

1387
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 1: guy that we definitely will have in a conversation. And

1388
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 1: people are already buzzing about this twenty twenty class. Uh,

1389
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 1: it's loaded at quarterback, but there are a ton of

1390
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 1: playmakers on the outside. Uh. The wide receivers that we

1391
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 1: talked about, industrious class, their difference makers, game change, game changes,

1392
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 1: guys that we definitely will talk about in consideration this

1393
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 1: first round pick. And Justin Herbert and going back to

1394
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 1: that conversation, man, what a what an opportunity for him

1395
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 1: first week of the season. H go play against the

1396
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 1: Auburn Tigers. You want to go put your name on

1397
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 1: the map and say we're here. We're here is a team.

1398
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 1: I'm here as an individual and let's let's get this

1399
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 1: party started. What a great way to do it, A

1400
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 1: great way to do it. And I actually loved this

1401
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 1: not only from Justin Herbert's angle, but from Mario crystal Ball.

1402
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 1: Mario crystal Ball basically he without saying it, he's trying

1403
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:30,920
Speaker 1: to build an SEC team in the pack twelve. And

1404
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 1: so the only way you can get your kids used

1405
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 1: to playing in this style, you gotta face him. You

1406
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 1: gotta see what it looks like. I think his confidence

1407
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:41,840
Speaker 1: in dealing with Oregon, obviously having been at Alabama, but

1408
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 1: facing that team. I think it would be a nice

1409
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 1: launching point for Oregon if you're able to pull it off.

1410
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 1: No doubt, this has been a fun visit here at

1411
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 1: PAC twelve Media Day. I need to remind the folks

1412
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 1: if you haven't checked out our Prototype series where we

1413
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 1: go through each position. We've got the offense already done.

1414
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 1: We talked to former players, players, even UM personnel, executives,

1415
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 1: general managers, head coaches, hall of famers. We had a

1416
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 1: whole host of guests on these episodes where we discuss

1417
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 1: what does a prototype player look like, what is the position,

1418
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 1: where's that position headed in the future. We one episode

1419
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 1: per position. NFL dot com slash MTS Prototype NFL dot

1420
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 1: Com slash MTS Prototype is where everybody can find that series. Yeah,

1421
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 1: look as fantastic series, some of the best work that

1422
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 1: I think that we have done. UM we've always aspired

1423
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 1: to be guys that that educate and and continue to

1424
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 1: elevate our own respective games. I think the Prototype series

1425
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 1: has put us in a situation where as much as

1426
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 1: we've given, we've also received. No doubt, I think the

1427
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 1: knowledge that we received from some of the best in

1428
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 1: developing the position or playing the positions has helped us

1429
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 1: become better evaluating. Yeah, look, we're selfish. We're selfish, man.

1430
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 1: We get people on here that can help us learn

1431
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 1: and grow, uh in this great game of football. And

1432
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:55,960
Speaker 1: we've got plenty of content coming your way on the

1433
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 1: Move the six Podcast College Football. Oh gosh, we're about

1434
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 1: what thirty days away from this thing kicking off, and

1435
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 1: we've got we're gonna be talking about these kids as

1436
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 1: draft prospects. We've got training camps that have have kicked off,

1437
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 1: so we're gonna start jumping into some training camp podcast

1438
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 1: talking about what we're seeing, what we're hearing, getting out

1439
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 1: in the road and visiting with some of these teams

1440
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 1: and talking to coaches. So all that's gonna be coming

1441
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:18,920
Speaker 1: your way here on the Move the Sticks Podcast. Anything

1442
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 1: else you want to add before we get out of here, Buck, No,

1443
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 1: it's been a great it's been a fantastic opportunity. I

1444
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 1: appreciate all the work hythe them and crew everyone being

1445
01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 1: able to come out here, um and make sure that

1446
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 1: we're looking after just looking at his phone, Barlett has

1447
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 1: his nose in the phone he's probably checking can hold

1448
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 1: and holding the whole thing down. Eddie looked like he's

1449
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 1: been doing push ups in the back, but regardless, and

1450
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 1: you just put on a smaller shirt actually in between

1451
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 1: the look. It's been great. I think the entire offseason

1452
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 1: when you think about Move the Sticks and what we've

1453
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 1: been aspiring to be in terms of the premier podcast

1454
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 1: when it comes to dealing with the draft and all

1455
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:53,080
Speaker 1: things football, I think we're certainly well on our way

1456
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 1: to kind of carving out a little niche in the podcast. Yeah,

1457
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 1: it's been a lot of fun and we've got a

1458
01:03:57,040 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 1: lot more content coming your way, but that's gonna do it.

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01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:03,800
Speaker 1: From twelve Media Day. He's Bucky Brooks. I'm Daniel Jeremiah.

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01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 1: Thank you so much to listening and watching Move the

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Speaker 1: Sticks presented by New Era. Thanks for downloading Move the

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Speaker 1: Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. For more, go

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