WEBVTT - Pitch Me A Movie: X-Men 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:00.440 Worrying. 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:04.520 Today's episode contains general spoilers for Marvel movies and the 0:00:04.640 --> 0:00:08.240 X Men's stories and the Fox slash Disney slash Marvel Verse. 0:00:08.960 --> 0:00:29.400 Be warned. Hello, my name is Jascontepsio and on Rosday 0:00:29.520 --> 0:00:31.920 Night and welcome back to x Ray Vision of the 0:00:31.960 --> 0:00:34.120 podcast Will Dive Vivia to your favorite shows, movies, comments 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:35.760 of pop culture coming to you from my heart Will. 0:00:35.760 --> 0:00:39.080 We're bringing you episodes every Tuesday and Thursday, plus the 0:00:39.080 --> 0:00:41.800 Summer Speakers movies on Friday, ned News on Saturday. 0:00:42.640 --> 0:00:45.640 In today's episode, we are pitching big Marvel our ideas 0:00:45.640 --> 0:00:47.880 for an X Men movie. Remember when everyone said, hey, 0:00:47.880 --> 0:00:50.559 don't post that online, save that till you pitch them. Well, 0:00:50.560 --> 0:00:53.199 guess what we're putting them in a podcast. We've had 0:00:53.280 --> 0:00:56.080 hints and teases of Marvel mutants, but it's time to 0:00:56.120 --> 0:00:57.880 share how we would like to bring them to the 0:00:57.880 --> 0:01:01.360 big screen and enter the MCU. But this is a business. 0:01:01.600 --> 0:01:03.720 It's not for fun, so we'll have to convince the 0:01:03.800 --> 0:01:06.440 studio heads. But our idea is the best way to 0:01:06.440 --> 0:01:10.520 bring the Xavier Institute to life. So Jason introduce the 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:11.360 studio heads. 0:01:12.040 --> 0:01:16.160 Let's welcome our studio heads now to the dais. First up, Aboo, 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:21.000 the CFO of Box Office returns a boo. 0:01:21.160 --> 0:01:22.119 Definitely a real job. 0:01:22.800 --> 0:01:25.120 Happy to be here, love a spreadsheet. Can't wait to 0:01:25.120 --> 0:01:26.600 see how much money we're going to make. 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:31.960 Next up, Carmen, our head of Marketing and the Department 0:01:32.040 --> 0:01:34.480 of How it look, Carmen, how it look? 0:01:35.360 --> 0:01:38.160 I'm doing great. I'm here with my magnifying glass making 0:01:38.200 --> 0:01:41.399 sure that all the details are very precise and very 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:42.200 looking good. 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:47.960 Absolutely fantastic. Next up, Ian, Marvel's chief counsel and the 0:01:48.480 --> 0:01:52.080 Chief Nostalgia Officer, the CNO of Brand Restoration. 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:56.000 Ian, welcome, happy to be here. You know we're in 0:01:56.040 --> 0:01:57.600 a little bit of a slump, so we need to 0:01:57.600 --> 0:02:00.360 bring that feeling back. Let's get back on track, baby. 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:08.200 And then finally, our head of the Pauline Kale Department 0:02:08.240 --> 0:02:12.800 of Critical acclaim, Joel, Joel, Monique, how are you? 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:15.440 This is the year the oscar has learned to respect 0:02:15.560 --> 0:02:16.480 the superhero film? 0:02:16.520 --> 0:02:18.639 Okay, game changing. 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:20.360 Is what's happening. It's happening. 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:25.240 And then finally we're delighted to have with us today 0:02:25.840 --> 0:02:28.040 and it's very pack. Schedule is made time for us. 0:02:28.120 --> 0:02:34.040 The head of X Ray Vision CEOs. It's Eric Kaufman 0:02:34.560 --> 0:02:39.519 CFO CEO CEO, the Big Huna, the Big Cheese l 0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:41.240 he himself eron, how are you? 0:02:41.800 --> 0:02:44.440 I'm great, I'm fired up right now. I can tell 0:02:44.480 --> 0:02:47.560 I'm gonna love all your pitches and I cannot wait. 0:02:47.880 --> 0:02:48.280 Let's go. 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:50.640 He's been through a pitch, guys. 0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:54.040 So just so the two of you know, we're gonna 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:55.880 have you each pitch a movie to us. You know, 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:58.960 give us your cast, your director, storyline, you name it. 0:02:59.320 --> 0:03:02.120 And look, I can already tell that I'm gonna love 0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:05.680 all of these pitches and they're gonna be perfect. And 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:07.760 I also know we're definitely gonna have a couple notes 0:03:07.800 --> 0:03:09.560 that we'll give you. So we're gonna give you a 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:11.400 couple notes. You get a little bit of time to 0:03:11.440 --> 0:03:13.600 think about those, and then you let us know which 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:16.440 one of those you're gonna adapt into your movie, and 0:03:16.440 --> 0:03:19.040 then our studio heads will convene, we'll vote on which 0:03:19.040 --> 0:03:21.560 of the pitches we think is the best direction for 0:03:21.639 --> 0:03:24.880 the MCU, and we will greenlight that and we'll be 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:25.480 on our way. 0:03:26.280 --> 0:03:30.080 Al righty, Jason heads, Rosie tails and it's tales first. 0:03:30.200 --> 0:03:31.600 So Rosie, let's hear your pitch. 0:03:33.040 --> 0:03:37.160 Okay, thanks, so much, guys to taking the time. I 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:40.320 know you guys are so busy. I appreciate you coming 0:03:40.320 --> 0:03:42.640 out here listening to the pitch of an x Men 0:03:43.400 --> 0:03:46.480 movie by me, somebody who's never written a movie before, 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:49.360 So thank you. This is something I've been dreaming of 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:52.320 to pitch an x Men movie. My x Men movie 0:03:52.480 --> 0:03:59.560 is called x Men Underground and the director is d Reese. 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:02.040 It is not going to be a Netflix movie, so 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:04.480 they will not fuck her shit up. If you've seen 0:04:04.480 --> 0:04:07.640 the incredible mud Bound, you'll know she's already a fantastic director. 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:11.400 She has been longing to do sci fi. And the 0:04:12.080 --> 0:04:16.840 cast is Jody Turner Smith as Storm and Melissa Barrera 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:21.240 as Callisto. Those are the two main characters in this movie, 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:26.520 and essentially it is going to be a story about 0:04:26.560 --> 0:04:30.560 the underground community known as the Morlocks. They will be 0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:35.800 living under New Jersey Underground. This could easily tie into 0:04:35.839 --> 0:04:40.440 what was established with Molman's Underground universe in Fantastic Four, 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:42.680 or could be a slight reboot if you guys are 0:04:42.680 --> 0:04:45.839 trying to move away from that storyline. It will be 0:04:45.960 --> 0:04:53.280 about Callisto losing control of the underworld of the Morlocks 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:56.880 and Storm arriving and suggesting that instead of everybody just 0:04:57.279 --> 0:05:00.360 following one leader blindly, they create some kind kind of 0:05:00.839 --> 0:05:05.599 you know, class hierarchical system and perhaps even consider joining 0:05:06.320 --> 0:05:11.760 Charles Xavier's School for young Mutants. But there is an issue. 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:17.480 The issue is that Moleman, though he began as a 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:21.240 helpful person just trying to make more space more affordable 0:05:22.000 --> 0:05:26.560 living in New York City, has become crazed with power 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:31.960 and only wants one gang to live underground, and begins 0:05:32.320 --> 0:05:35.840 to start trying to take over the surface world, causing 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:39.920 the rift between humans and mutants that we have long 0:05:40.040 --> 0:05:44.520 questioned how it would exist in the MCU. And finally, 0:05:45.960 --> 0:05:50.200 you know, the Molocks will return alongside Storm and help 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:55.360 fight Molman, joining the mutant surface world. Thank you, guys 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:56.240 for my pitch. 0:05:56.800 --> 0:05:59.599 Amazing, amazing, Jodie Turner, Smith's so hot right now off 0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:04.400 Tron Love Sobrera, I love a connection to Moolman. I 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:07.560 am so into this, Rosie. Jason, do you have a 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:09.760 pitch for us as well? I do have a pitch, but. 0:06:09.720 --> 0:06:12.440 I want to stress beforehand that I'm going to leave 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:15.120 the casting to you guys. I've come up with the outline, 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:17.880 the log line the general arc of my story, and 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:19.960 I hope and I think the power of that will 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:25.440 carry my argument. My movie is called X Men Colan Insurgency. 0:06:25.800 --> 0:06:28.280 They came from a Doom world to stop ours from coming. 0:06:28.320 --> 0:06:32.839 In this movie will take place after Doomsday and Secret Wars, 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:38.159 when the multiverse, we assume will collapse. A small group 0:06:38.240 --> 0:06:43.240 of mutants that were in the Doomsday world God Emperor 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:49.240 Doom's enforcers, to a certain extent, find themselves stranded in 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:52.960 the six one six main timeline of the MCU, in 0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:55.880 their new now from their world, the world from which 0:06:55.920 --> 0:07:01.200 they came. This is the Rachel Summer's sentence, a death 0:07:01.279 --> 0:07:05.640 world in which all mutants are hunted and herded into camps, 0:07:05.680 --> 0:07:11.680 exploited and exterminated. These mutants arrive in our world and 0:07:11.720 --> 0:07:15.840 they recognize all around them the early warning signs here, 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:22.720 the laws against enhanced individuals, the military biotech programs, rising nationalism, 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:25.720 the fact that Shield was a Nazi op. They see 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:30.760 Sentinel technology looming and starting to come together. In their 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:36.240 first mission, their suspicions are absolutely confirmed when they discover 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:41.679 a experimental procedure that's designed to be the next step 0:07:41.680 --> 0:07:44.520 in the super Soldier program, and it is based on 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:48.640 the powers and exploiting the powers of one mutant named 0:07:48.640 --> 0:07:52.160 Logan who's been allowed for centuries. He's at a Canadian 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:55.520 American and they find him in a lab being experimented 0:07:55.560 --> 0:08:00.920 on ruthlessly. This to them is proof our insurgents are Cyclops, 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:05.000 the leader of this covert resistance movement, Storm, the moral 0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:09.160 center of this group. Magic, the teleporter who can move 0:08:09.200 --> 0:08:11.400 them in and out of places that they need to be. 0:08:11.440 --> 0:08:13.920 This is how they get into the lab. Forge, the 0:08:13.920 --> 0:08:19.800 military engineer who is both dismantling Sentinel Tech and creating 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:25.720 his own tech. Nightcrawler, the spiritual conscious consciousness behind the team, 0:08:25.720 --> 0:08:28.640 and the mystique, the shape shifter. Who is she good? 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:31.360 Is she bad? What are her ethics? It's unclear, but 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:33.120 we know that she's on the side of the mutants. 0:08:33.280 --> 0:08:37.840 They see direct action against the rising tide of the 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:42.199 Sentinels and anti mutant fervor as absolutely necessary, and so 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:46.439 they must strike first. This puts them on the radar 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:50.160 of the Avengers the government, who are not sure are 0:08:50.160 --> 0:08:53.840 these heroes or are these bad guys? Are they freedom 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:58.640 fighters or are they terrorists? What these new insurgent mutants 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:02.760 discover is there our mutants in this world? Deep hidden 0:09:02.960 --> 0:09:06.840 in an underground school upstate, Charles Xavier and Eric Lencher 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:10.640 aka Professor X and Magneto have been four years running 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:14.720 a secret refuge for young mutants. The Xavier School is real, 0:09:14.800 --> 0:09:17.880 but it's an underground place, an invisible sanctuary, in which 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:22.760 Xavier's philosophy is the main one, and he's basically saying, hey, 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:26.160 we're very powerful, but with that power comes responsibility, and 0:09:26.200 --> 0:09:29.120 we have to hide our gifts and we have to 0:09:29.280 --> 0:09:33.000 live amongst humans undetected because we don't want to get 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:36.760 everybody scared and have the humans rise against us and 0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:42.760 make war against us. Magneto sees Charles's way as imperfect, 0:09:42.880 --> 0:09:44.920 but kind of like the best option that they have 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:50.400 right now. Until Magneto comes into contact with these insurgents, 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:54.720 he comes to believe that they're right. The world that 0:09:54.760 --> 0:09:58.000 they come from is the world that we are headed towards. 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:00.120 And in fact, look at what they did to this 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:03.880 mutant logan. This is the beginning of the rift between 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:07.600 Charles Xavier and Magneto. Not a clash between good and 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:14.040 evil per se, but a clash between freedom and get 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:20.439 along to go along, a battle between survival strategies. Magneto 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:23.520 will say at one point, if peace is built on silence, 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:29.199 is it really peace? This is my movie X Men Insurgency. 0:10:30.160 --> 0:10:33.760 Wow, love it, love it, Love the connections, and love 0:10:33.880 --> 0:10:37.120 having Charles and Eric here all along already and we 0:10:37.160 --> 0:10:39.760 can sort of explain away why they haven't been involved 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:42.600 in previous things. A great connection. I'm sure Ian, our 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:45.120 chief nostalgia officer, is gonna love that. We're gonna throw 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:47.400 to break and when we get back, we're gonna have 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:51.000 our first little studio head discussion and get back with 0:10:51.040 --> 0:11:06.079 some notes. All Right, we're back, and look, we loved 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:08.040 both of these pitches. They were so perfect, but we 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:09.720 do have a couple of notes that we'd like to 0:11:09.760 --> 0:11:14.800 call mutants mandated unnecessary talent and or narrative transformations that 0:11:14.800 --> 0:11:17.600 we'd like you to make to your pitches, because again 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:20.160 they're so perfect, but we just have a couple of 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:22.920 things we'd like. So the first option for you is 0:11:23.000 --> 0:11:26.480 kind of the indie route. We love your story, your direction, 0:11:27.440 --> 0:11:30.800 you get to keep your artistic vision, but you really 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:32.920 only get seventy five million dollars for your budget. This 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:36.520 will be the lowest budget MCU movie ever. For instance, 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:38.920 ant Man had one hundred and thirty million dollar budget. 0:11:38.920 --> 0:11:41.640 You get less than that. You can cast one up 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:44.480 and coming rising star as your lead, but the rest 0:11:44.480 --> 0:11:46.520 of the cast needs to be TV actors, and you 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:49.040 can get You can assume you're gonna get probably one 0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:51.439 hundred and fifty to two hundred million dollars in box office. 0:11:51.440 --> 0:11:55.439 So that's the indie route. Option one. Option two critically 0:11:55.440 --> 0:12:00.480 acclaimed talent. We are hungry for talent, receiving an Oscar 0:12:00.520 --> 0:12:03.199 buzz so hot off the heels of one battle after another. 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:07.160 You're gonna have Paul Thomas Anderson direct, and you're somehow 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:10.120 he is convinced Leonardo DiCaprio and Sean Penn to star. 0:12:10.960 --> 0:12:14.360 The movie's gonna receive critical acclaim, but it will struggle 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:17.000 to make more than two hundred million dollars domestically, which 0:12:17.000 --> 0:12:20.000 means you might lose money on this movie. The third 0:12:20.120 --> 0:12:25.120 choice you have is a standalone New Vision. Look here 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:27.400 at Disney, we just really need a hit right now 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:30.120 for the MCU, So we're gonna hand the reins over 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:34.560 to one Christopher Nolan, and he's just gonna reboot the 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:38.720 entire thing. So no multiverse, no Infinity Stones, no Doom, whatever, 0:12:38.800 --> 0:12:42.439 just Christopher Nolan and Michael Kine. That's where we're starting with. However, 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:45.000 he's a little hesitant to sign on for more because 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:48.240 he was really tired after doing the Batman trilogy. So 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:51.480 we get him for one movie, but we're gonna make 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:56.440 four hundred million dollars Option four. Youth mail audience is 0:12:56.559 --> 0:12:59.640 really important to our marketing, and so you have to 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:03.040 cast Sidney Sweeney is Emma Frost, machine Gun, Kelly is 0:13:03.080 --> 0:13:07.880 Mister Sinister, and Jake and Logan Paul as Cyclops and Havoc. Congratulations, 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:10.840 you've secured the youth mail audience. You are guaranteed at 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:14.880 least five hundred million in domestic box office and the 0:13:14.920 --> 0:13:20.240 final option overseas is what really matters here. Okay, this 0:13:20.320 --> 0:13:23.439 story will be heavily, heavily curated and has to be 0:13:23.720 --> 0:13:28.120 very conservative culturally, but congratulations, this movie is playing in 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:31.200 China and this is going to gross more than Deadpool 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:34.040 and Wolverine. That means one point five to two billion 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:37.040 dollars worldwide. This will easily become one of the top 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:40.679 five MCU box office returns. Ever, so again you can 0:13:40.720 --> 0:13:44.400 have an indie Darling small budget seventy five million. You 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:49.480 can have critically acclaimed talent but not great box office. 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:52.400 You can have a standalone new vision, but it is 0:13:52.679 --> 0:13:57.560 entirely forgoing all of the previous MCU. You can go 0:13:57.640 --> 0:13:59.400 for the youth mail audience. I don't care what your 0:13:59.400 --> 0:14:01.480 story is, care what your director is. You just got 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:05.160 to have the Paul Brothers in there, or five overseas markets. 0:14:05.200 --> 0:14:07.120 You gotta make it so that China is okay with it, 0:14:07.280 --> 0:14:10.160 but you are going to make bank, all right. So 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:12.080 those are our five options for you. 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:16.960 Thank you, Aaron, Thank you head of too many options. 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:19.920 Whenever we let you have the mic. This is a 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:25.160 continuing theme with the head of the studio who is 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:29.640 happy to carry a really cool conceit under multiple options 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:31.640 that I forget the first one. By the time we 0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:33.800 get to the fifth one, I think, oh, thank you 0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:36.520 for pacing those in there. I'll go first. I'm going 0:14:36.560 --> 0:14:39.440 to reject all of these false choices, but kind of 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:43.320 lean towards number one. Whatever happened to make a good movie. 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:46.120 I know it's very interesting to hear to get the 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:49.000 notes back from the studio, and none of them are hey, 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:52.400 make a good movie. So I think my best. I 0:14:52.400 --> 0:14:55.480 think my best opportunity to make a good movie is 0:14:56.120 --> 0:14:59.240 Option one. I'm not going to get into the casting. 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:02.000 I'll let the the casting director and the suits handle 0:15:02.080 --> 0:15:03.680 that I want to make. I want to have a 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:05.920 great story, i want to have it executed well. And 0:15:05.920 --> 0:15:08.280 I'm want to put every single dollar that I can 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:12.680 on the screen. So forget the talent, forget the I'm 0:15:12.680 --> 0:15:16.040 gonna write or direct this and I'll listen, I know, 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:20.120 and in fact, i'll I will delay my fee until 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:22.560 this movie makes money. So this movie doesn't I put 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:25.440 I'm putting my reputation on the line. If the movie 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:27.920 doesn't make money, I don't make money, I'll just take 0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:33.360 my day rate. I'm gonna reject the PTA option. I'm 0:15:33.360 --> 0:15:35.840 gonna reject the standalone. This is not you know, what 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:37.800 is this two thousand and eight. This is not the 0:15:38.840 --> 0:15:42.000 you know, Batman begins world anymore. This doesn't exist the 0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:46.400 youth mail audience, you know, wrong, wrong superhero team, Like, 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:48.280 we can try that with a different superhero team. And 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:52.800 I'm gonna work with this one overseas markets. You know, 0:15:53.000 --> 0:15:56.480 good luck. I guess this is an avatar. I'm gonna 0:15:56.480 --> 0:15:59.200 go with option one. Let's put all the money back 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:03.680 into the thing. No money for me. I will survive 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:07.240 on coupon's until this movie comes out and hopefully makes 0:16:07.280 --> 0:16:10.480 its money back on vod and rentals. Thank you very. 0:16:10.440 --> 0:16:13.960 Much, Jason. Love the pitch, love it. I love your 0:16:14.000 --> 0:16:17.760 reaction to our notes that the studio loves to hear it. Rosie, 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:20.360 what about you will have those five options. 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:23.880 So I'm basically gonna go I'm gonna pitch you, guys. 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:26.560 There's two options here that you can take for my story. 0:16:26.680 --> 0:16:30.400 So one is also option one because I agree too 0:16:30.400 --> 0:16:33.480 many options and really the best option for making a 0:16:33.480 --> 0:16:37.080 good movie. I'm making sure that d gets paid well. 0:16:37.160 --> 0:16:39.960 Other than that, guess what, guys, I love TV actors, 0:16:40.200 --> 0:16:43.000 so I don't care like have Jody Taylor Smith as 0:16:44.040 --> 0:16:46.680 Storm and then have all the CW actors you need 0:16:46.760 --> 0:16:49.800 coming because guess what, if it's a good movie, good script, 0:16:50.200 --> 0:16:53.080 we could make more money than expected. We've seen it 0:16:53.120 --> 0:16:56.440 happen before. We've seen movies like The Invisible Man, The Monkey. 0:16:56.680 --> 0:16:59.640 We've seen these crazy movies that are seen as genre 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:04.720 questions overplay. One of the best movies of all time 0:17:04.800 --> 0:17:07.800 is also one of the cheapest subero movies. Which is 0:17:07.840 --> 0:17:10.280 Birds of Prey. So I think number one is a 0:17:10.280 --> 0:17:14.119 good option. Now, I will say, look, man, I often 0:17:14.160 --> 0:17:19.280 think this overseas market conversation ignores the actual conservative nature 0:17:19.320 --> 0:17:22.959 of America and how often those conservative choices that are 0:17:23.000 --> 0:17:25.920 being made are claimed to be for outside of America, 0:17:25.960 --> 0:17:28.960 but really are also for inside America. So if I 0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:32.080 was making a supero movie, an X Men movie that 0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:35.400 was gonna play in China, that would be a different 0:17:35.480 --> 0:17:38.439 pitch because I would use different talent. I would have 0:17:38.880 --> 0:17:42.360 Michelle Yo come in and start working as a new 0:17:42.400 --> 0:17:45.800 head mistress. I would make sure that your mutants are 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:49.800 played by incredible actors from all over I think that 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:52.160 is a different movie, but I think I could make 0:17:52.200 --> 0:17:54.320 it that would play in China. Would America like it? 0:17:54.359 --> 0:17:57.000 Who knows. We've seen with Nija that doesn't always cross over. 0:17:57.240 --> 0:18:02.000 But I too would most likely go for the art 0:18:02.000 --> 0:18:05.240 over everything route, though I'm not a verse to trying 0:18:05.280 --> 0:18:07.480 to make a movie that plays well outside of America. 0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:09.960 I believe the X Men is a good space. It 0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:12.880 was always meant to be a global team from giant size, 0:18:13.000 --> 0:18:15.719 so I think there is a version of it that works. 0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:20.880 Rosie again, I'm blown away by all these pitches. These 0:18:20.920 --> 0:18:23.440 are so so good, and the studio is so excited 0:18:23.480 --> 0:18:25.600 that both of you came in today. We're going to 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:28.360 reconvene just the studio heads really quickly and just talk 0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:30.520 through some of these pitches and our agents will get 0:18:30.520 --> 0:18:32.720 back to you as soon as we can. Thank you 0:18:32.800 --> 0:18:35.439 so much. Guys. All right, I'm going to bring in 0:18:35.520 --> 0:18:38.439 Joel aboo Ian and Carmen and we're gonna just quickly 0:18:38.480 --> 0:18:42.640 discuss these two different pitches for how these two creatives 0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:45.040 would like to bring the X Men into the MCU. So, 0:18:45.119 --> 0:18:47.639 first off, Joel, what are you thinking? 0:18:48.720 --> 0:18:53.880 Well as overseer for awards and Oscar recognition. I love 0:18:53.960 --> 0:18:57.440 the idea of Jason wanninglean to the writer director. We've 0:18:57.440 --> 0:19:00.520 seen that work before. Y'all remember Logan? That was really powerful? 0:19:01.240 --> 0:19:04.199 I am concerned, sorry, Logan Is that the one that 0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:06.080 started the character from Deadpool and Wolverine? 0:19:07.400 --> 0:19:11.400 Yes? Yes, but it was pretty and older audiences don't 0:19:11.400 --> 0:19:13.879 remember it. It's faded into non existence. But but it 0:19:13.920 --> 0:19:17.080 was powerful for its time, and I would like to 0:19:17.119 --> 0:19:18.840 circle back to that if we can. I think that's 0:19:19.000 --> 0:19:23.760 a great idea. I am concerned at the dismissal of 0:19:23.760 --> 0:19:26.240 the China box office, which by god do we need 0:19:27.359 --> 0:19:31.439 and our young guys. But now listen, here's where we 0:19:31.480 --> 0:19:34.479 really get into some trouble knowing X men as I do. 0:19:34.640 --> 0:19:36.040 This is my job, after all. 0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:39.000 I am concerned the fact that this is a group 0:19:39.200 --> 0:19:43.240 that is about that just diversity often represents queer stories. 0:19:43.760 --> 0:19:45.680 If we get a writer director in here who really 0:19:45.720 --> 0:19:48.320 wants to push that angle, I mean, he might be right. 0:19:48.359 --> 0:19:49.679 China might just be out. They might just be like 0:19:49.760 --> 0:19:54.720 not wanting to screen this film. So I think we're 0:19:54.840 --> 0:19:58.400 sort of I'm sort of I'm hesitant to lean into 0:19:58.440 --> 0:20:02.760 the Jason model because box office, we have to make money. 0:20:03.200 --> 0:20:05.200 I'm not going to launch an entire Awards campaign behind 0:20:05.200 --> 0:20:08.080 a flop. I don't have the energy for Rosie. Oh man, 0:20:08.119 --> 0:20:11.479 do I love d really love de Reese has had 0:20:11.520 --> 0:20:16.760 Oscar buzz before both The mud Bound and Pariah, so 0:20:16.880 --> 0:20:19.639 there's like already some good build there. I think we 0:20:19.680 --> 0:20:22.439 could really build off of that. I also think the 0:20:22.440 --> 0:20:26.080 integration into the current universe works really well, so we're 0:20:26.119 --> 0:20:30.040 not losing fans as we approach this Oscar space. So 0:20:31.000 --> 0:20:34.080 I think I'm leaning a little more Rosie right now. 0:20:34.840 --> 0:20:36.120 But a boo great. 0:20:36.119 --> 0:20:38.400 A boo. Yeah, from someone who knows a ton about 0:20:38.520 --> 0:20:41.280 X Men to someone who knows nothing about X Men 0:20:41.359 --> 0:20:44.359 but knows all about the dollars and cents? A boo. 0:20:44.400 --> 0:20:45.360 What are you thinking right now? 0:20:45.640 --> 0:20:48.880 Yeaheah, yeah, let me just finish up this spreadshirts crunching, Yeah, yeah, 0:20:48.920 --> 0:20:49.320 go ahead. 0:20:49.359 --> 0:20:50.159 Great. 0:20:51.280 --> 0:20:53.600 It's looking like we're gonna lose money on these pitches. 0:20:53.800 --> 0:20:57.879 I've crunched the numbers. I've been crunching the numbers this 0:20:57.920 --> 0:21:04.359 whole time, and also frantically googling the words storm, Magic, Forged, Nightcrawler, 0:21:04.400 --> 0:21:07.480 and Mystique to try and figure out what they mean. 0:21:08.119 --> 0:21:10.320 Haven't been able to complete that part of the process yet, 0:21:10.359 --> 0:21:13.440 but the numbers are not looking good. I appreciate, actually, 0:21:13.440 --> 0:21:18.080 that both of our extremely talented artists have pitched making 0:21:18.119 --> 0:21:21.320 a good movie. First, I'm very much for good movies. 0:21:21.560 --> 0:21:24.560 Good movies make money as far as I know, and 0:21:24.640 --> 0:21:28.439 so I'm very much in favor of that. I'm a 0:21:28.480 --> 0:21:34.000 little concerned that neither of the pitches seem to have 0:21:35.040 --> 0:21:39.800 sold the average moviegoer, the average MCU fan of which 0:21:39.840 --> 0:21:42.639 I consider myself. There were a lot of terms thrown 0:21:42.680 --> 0:21:45.480 around in these pitches that went completely over my head. 0:21:45.680 --> 0:21:48.679 I'm still a little unclear how these movies connect to 0:21:48.720 --> 0:21:51.679 the MCU. Is RDJ in them or is he not 0:21:51.800 --> 0:21:55.200 in them? Because that is going to factor into the budget, right, 0:21:55.359 --> 0:21:57.800 He's got a huge at this point. I have to 0:21:57.840 --> 0:22:01.080 constantly negotiate with that guy's manager, I thought him, I know, 0:22:01.760 --> 0:22:04.240 I'm over here, like I have a whole spreadsheet dedicated 0:22:04.240 --> 0:22:08.200 to negotiating with that asshole. So it's like, I AFC 0:22:08.359 --> 0:22:10.040 in the movie or not. I'm a little confused on 0:22:10.080 --> 0:22:13.119 that front. So I was hoping for pitches that made 0:22:13.880 --> 0:22:16.320 a clearer connection to the MCU that I know and 0:22:16.400 --> 0:22:19.040 understand and have been, you know, very much a fan 0:22:19.119 --> 0:22:24.680 of since Endgame, my favorite movie of all time, Sweet 0:22:24.680 --> 0:22:28.960 Sweet Money. I'm a little worried about that. I think 0:22:29.000 --> 0:22:31.480 I would I would go back to our artists and 0:22:31.600 --> 0:22:34.760 ask them to sell me on how I'm going to 0:22:34.880 --> 0:22:38.959 sell this movie. I really like Jason's log line they 0:22:39.000 --> 0:22:41.560 came from a doomed world to stop ours from becoming one. 0:22:41.600 --> 0:22:43.800 I think that's very relevant to where we are today 0:22:43.840 --> 0:22:46.280 as a world and to a feeling that a lot 0:22:46.280 --> 0:22:48.480 of people are feeling. That's a log line I can sell. 0:22:48.520 --> 0:22:52.119 I can slap that on YouTube and TikTok ads and 0:22:52.200 --> 0:22:55.479 hopefully convince people to watch. I'm not so sure what 0:22:55.520 --> 0:22:57.359 a morlock is, and I don't know whether or not 0:22:57.400 --> 0:23:00.000 I can slap that onto ad and sell this movie. 0:23:00.320 --> 0:23:03.920 So at this point, I'm currently leaning more towards Jason's pitch, 0:23:04.040 --> 0:23:06.280 just because I recognized more of the words. 0:23:05.960 --> 0:23:06.520 In that pitch. 0:23:07.080 --> 0:23:09.880 Now, from someone who loved Endgame to someone else who 0:23:09.920 --> 0:23:12.639 loved Endgame, Ian, our chief nostalgia officer, what are you 0:23:12.680 --> 0:23:14.639 thinking about these pitches and how they relate to the 0:23:14.640 --> 0:23:16.919 current MCU and what you love about it. 0:23:18.119 --> 0:23:20.880