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Speaker 1: Mmmm, Welcome to the State of the Lakers podcast. Everyone,

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Speaker 1: Happy Wednesday. I hope you all having a good week. Um,

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Speaker 1: Roger and I are excited to get back out here

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Speaker 1: and talk about the DeAndre Jordan's signing that took place

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Speaker 1: last week, the one that Roger and I got in

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Speaker 1: trouble for being way too excited about. And then, uh,

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Speaker 1: we're also going to get to the mail back and

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Speaker 1: talk about a bunch of questions that you guys had

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Speaker 1: specifically for us. But first, Raj, how are you doing man?

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Speaker 1: How's your weekend? How are things going over in your

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Speaker 1: neck of the woods. It was great, great Labor day weekend. Um.

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Speaker 1: I guess went to the beach, as most people around

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Speaker 1: perfect weather. But yeah, we're getting started pretty soon here.

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Speaker 1: I keep doing a little countdown, but like we're like

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Speaker 1: twenty something days away before we see this team actually

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Speaker 1: on the court. Um, the off season is basically over.

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Speaker 1: How are you man? How was your weekend? I'm doing good.

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Speaker 1: It was a little bit of a weird Labor day

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Speaker 1: weekend because my wife had to work. Um, and then

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Speaker 1: I had some work that I needed to get done.

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Speaker 1: But in the real estate business, good luck getting anybody

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Speaker 1: to do anything on a holiday, which is which is ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: But thankfully it wasn't a disastrous or anything along those lines. Um,

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Speaker 1: I'm excited for the season to start to However, I

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Speaker 1: had a buddy of mine that I used to play

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Speaker 1: this year, um and and kind of be it help

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Speaker 1: him with his program. And I'm seriously considering it, but

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Speaker 1: like man like, it would just put a lot on

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Speaker 1: my plate coming this fall. So I've got some uh

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Speaker 1: some thinking to do over the next couple of days

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Speaker 1: about whether or not, in addition to all of this

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Speaker 1: to take on some coaching responsibilities. So we'll see. UM,

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Speaker 1: I will keep you guys updated on that. But anyway, UM,

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Speaker 1: I'm excited. I'm excited though, like I'm ready. I'm ready

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Speaker 1: to dive back into it and this particular team, as

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Speaker 1: you and I have continually mentioned, it's gonna be so

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Speaker 1: incredibly exciting. Like you know, I've I've talked about a

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Speaker 1: lot about how I think it's gonna be one of

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Speaker 1: Lebron's last great like truly great seasons. We have the

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Speaker 1: Anthony Davis Revenge Tour, we have Russell Westbrook with an

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Speaker 1: opportunity for redemption, not to mention all the other cool

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Speaker 1: just gonna be a fun team to cover. Um. But anyway,

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Speaker 1: so I wanted to start with the DeAndre Jordan things.

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Speaker 1: So you and I were kind of on this early. UM,

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Speaker 1: but I thank you and I two days before the

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Speaker 1: we both basically said that we were pro the DeAndre

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Speaker 1: which wasn't the case. You and I were both discussing.

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Speaker 1: I think it's okay to acknowledge that there are different

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Speaker 1: impact on how well a player plays. Like I talked

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Speaker 1: He was considered completely washed. If you asked a Charlotte

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Speaker 1: But it's absolutely true that his basketball situation in Brooklyn

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Speaker 1: I'm just talking about the basketball situation. There's always a

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Speaker 1: Do you think this is fair? Yeah, that does make

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Speaker 1: ball action, it can be done in a half dozen

431
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Speaker 1: different ways. But if you can't occupy defenders, then they're

432
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Speaker 1: going to position themselves somewhere on the floor where they

433
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Speaker 1: can uh disrupt the ball handler, you know, either either

434
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Speaker 1: through stunting or through straight up cutting them off or

435
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Speaker 1: rotating or whatever. It might be so in that in

436
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Speaker 1: that regard, like it's just you know, basketball is a

437
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Speaker 1: momentum sport. Two in the sense that it's important for

438
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Speaker 1: your stars to get a couple of easy shots early

439
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Speaker 1: in the game so that they can get a rhythm going.

440
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Speaker 1: It's important for Anthony Davis to get good looks so

441
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Speaker 1: that he can have the confidence to make his turnaround

442
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Speaker 1: jump shot out of the post. Whereas, like, you know,

443
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Speaker 1: you look at that Warriors game in the play in,

444
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Speaker 1: it's like he's not getting anything easy. So now because

445
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Speaker 1: Draymond is so good defensively, so he has to go

446
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Speaker 1: to some some uh turnaround jump shots is basically all

447
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Speaker 1: he can take. But he has no confidence because he

448
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Speaker 1: hasn't gotten any easy shot attempts during the game. And

449
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Speaker 1: it just becomes like this snowball effect where you know,

450
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Speaker 1: Lebron is now frustrated because he can't create anything offensively

451
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Speaker 1: because he's driving into like six bodies. And and look

452
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Speaker 1: what happened to Dennis Schroder. Like Dennis Shrewder, a guy

453
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Speaker 1: who relentlessly attacks the basket. I mean, he has a

454
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Speaker 1: zero point game in the playoffs. And and and to me,

455
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Speaker 1: in in my opinion, that is in large part because

456
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Speaker 1: of the archaic offensive system that the Lakers were running.

457
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Speaker 1: Not the system so much as the personnel, but as

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Speaker 1: a result, uh Schroder literally couldn't even drum up enough

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Speaker 1: confidence to make one shot, you know, and it becomes

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Speaker 1: one of those things where you know, are you defending well, yes?

461
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Speaker 1: Are you wearing them down physically? Yes? There are obvious advantages.

462
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Speaker 1: That's and I tried to lay that out in the article.

463
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Speaker 1: There's a flip side to the Frank Vogel science that

464
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Speaker 1: comes in the form of the physical dominance. But you

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Speaker 1: you have to start asking yourself if the tradeoff isn't

466
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Speaker 1: worth it, and whether or not you can come to

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Speaker 1: to your point if you can come relatively close to

468
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Speaker 1: mimicking the some sort of defensive presence with this more

469
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Speaker 1: offensive oriented group, I think the scale will shift way

470
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Speaker 1: in the lakers favor I I we talked about this

471
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Speaker 1: a little bit last week on the pot I think

472
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Speaker 1: that this Laker team could win sixty five games this

473
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Speaker 1: year if everyone stays healthy. I'm extremely optimistic about this

474
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Speaker 1: particular team, and it's because of the fact that I

475
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Speaker 1: think they're going to score with great ease. And I

476
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Speaker 1: still think they will defend and if you that that

477
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Speaker 1: basically translates to a significant improvement in the team. And

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Speaker 1: so I I think they're gonna be be better than ever.

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Speaker 1: Is there anything else you wanted to say about this

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Speaker 1: before we get into our mail bag? No, Just like

481
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Speaker 1: I think this team is gonna be running a lot anyway,

482
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be in transition. Try to live in transition,

483
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Speaker 1: and you know, there's like a there's a cap on

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Speaker 1: how much transition you can have. I think it's like

485
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Speaker 1: thirty percent. Most team's offense is like the max that

486
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Speaker 1: they do in in transition. But there was like photos

487
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Speaker 1: of a d that kind of leaked out a little

488
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Speaker 1: earlier where he looks a lot more lean and looks

489
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Speaker 1: like a lot more fit, and it looks like he's

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Speaker 1: ready to be running up and down the court. So

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Speaker 1: so we'll see. But yeah, man, I think they're just

492
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Speaker 1: gonna try to run and and look like Vogel has

493
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Speaker 1: a blueprint that he feels like he won with and

494
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Speaker 1: he's gonna think like why should I change that? And look,

495
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Speaker 1: the offense is ugly. There's a lot of post up,

496
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Speaker 1: there's not really much action off of that. You've talked

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Speaker 1: about you know, what's it called getting the attention of

498
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Speaker 1: defenders and and post up can do that right little

499
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Speaker 1: it's kind of the easiest way. A little little post

500
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Speaker 1: entry pass you get a double kick out. Um, it's

501
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Speaker 1: really simple. They have really a simplified offense. And when

502
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Speaker 1: you have Lebron, I mean, you don't really need to

503
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Speaker 1: complicate things. I think that's like the give and take

504
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Speaker 1: that the coaches probably you know, go back and forth with.

505
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Speaker 1: You have Lebron James on your team, give him the

506
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Speaker 1: ball and he's pretty much a one man offense to himself.

507
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Speaker 1: So so see if they make any changes with that.

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Speaker 1: But but yeah, I see that's right. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: that's what I'm making point with. Yeah. No, I'm I've

510
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Speaker 1: I've I'm genuinely excited for it. And I think I

511
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Speaker 1: think the transition stuff is tricky because Lebron and Rondo

512
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Speaker 1: play at such a methodical pace. But I think they'll

513
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Speaker 1: run a lot more by virtue of the fact that

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Speaker 1: you know, uh, this year. You know, Anthony Davis was

515
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Speaker 1: what they used to use in transition a lot in

516
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Speaker 1: previous seasons when he was healthy, just leaking out and

517
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Speaker 1: running to the paint and Lebron throwing that over the

518
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Speaker 1: top pass. Well, occupying defenders can be done, like you said,

519
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 1: in so many different ways. Having a shooter, a legitimately

520
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Speaker 1: very good shooter, sprinting the wing, getting to the corner

521
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Speaker 1: in transition, it's it opens up so much more opportunity

522
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Speaker 1: for you on that side of the ball. But we

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Speaker 1: don't want to need to dive too far into the

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Speaker 1: weeds on that. But I I'm very excited for the

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Speaker 1: the differences in their transition attack as well. But so

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Speaker 1: the first question that I wanted to get to because

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Speaker 1: it's it's kind of a two parter from two different people.

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Speaker 1: Um So the question. The first question came from our

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Speaker 1: friend on Twitter, the Greek Mamba um Uh. Basically he asked,

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Speaker 1: in so many words, why do you think that th

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Speaker 1: h T never uses his left hand? And we received

532
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Speaker 1: another question about th h T and his potential leap

533
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Speaker 1: this year. So we're gonna talk about t h T

534
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Speaker 1: for a little bit here. The left handed thing is

535
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Speaker 1: super interesting. So, like, um I I've been a couple

536
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Speaker 1: of my friends that are in the business in the

537
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Speaker 1: in the world of sports media have said like, hey,

538
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Speaker 1: like you should try to try to break down a

539
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Speaker 1: little bit more just kind of some of the individual

540
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Speaker 1: skill things that these uh, that these players do, because

541
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Speaker 1: a lot of times it's hard for us to understand,

542
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Speaker 1: you know what, exactly the thought processes behind a player

543
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Speaker 1: doing one thing rather than another, whether it's a specific

544
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Speaker 1: move or specific strategy. And with th HT, he has

545
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Speaker 1: this super funky, really unique right handed layup that he

546
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Speaker 1: always goes to when he's on the left side of

547
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Speaker 1: the basket. And it's super interesting to me because I

548
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Speaker 1: was talking with the buddy of my name, Hassan, who

549
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Speaker 1: played four years of college out in New Mexico, and

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Speaker 1: he uh uh, he was telling me, He's like, man,

551
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Speaker 1: I was so forced and and trained growing up left hand,

552
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Speaker 1: left hand, left hand. And the reason why that they

553
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Speaker 1: train you so profusely early on to use the left

554
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Speaker 1: hand on the left side of the basket is because

555
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Speaker 1: of your body. Your body is a shield. When you

556
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Speaker 1: go up to the basket on the left side of

557
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Speaker 1: the rim, you need to get into the defender's body

558
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 1: and your left hand extends out and you can finish

559
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Speaker 1: over the shot blocker. That's the general thought process behind it.

560
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Speaker 1: And generally speaking, when you go with your right hand

561
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Speaker 1: you're now on the same side of the defender and

562
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Speaker 1: you're basically showing them the ball. And so our friend

563
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Speaker 1: the Greg mom but he sent me a picture and

564
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Speaker 1: it was Norman Powell get blocked at the rim. And

565
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Speaker 1: Norman pala is relatively similar measurables. His arms are a

566
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Speaker 1: little shorter, but he's six ft four, he's got a

567
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 1: six eleven wingspan, super athletic guy. And he's extending out

568
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Speaker 1: in front of him with the right handed layup on

569
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Speaker 1: the left side of the basket, and he's getting pinned

570
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Speaker 1: on the glass. And the main difference is is he's

571
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Speaker 1: jumping with the same trajectory as he does when he

572
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Speaker 1: goes with a left hand, so his body is not

573
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Speaker 1: in the way and he's very much just showing the

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Speaker 1: ball to the shot blocker. And it's interesting because what

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Speaker 1: Taylan does is he damn near turns backwards to the

576
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Speaker 1: point where he has his body completely positioned in between

577
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Speaker 1: the defender and the rim, and then he almost just

578
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Speaker 1: throws it backwards behind its head. And I think it's

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Speaker 1: interesting because you think, oh, that's a more difficult shot, right,

580
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Speaker 1: because it's not like t Hd doesn't have the ability

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Speaker 1: to finish with his left hand. But it kind of

582
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 1: piggybacks into this other thing having to do with takeoffs.

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Speaker 1: Every player has a comfort zone with jumping. For me

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Speaker 1: growing up, it was always my left foot by itself,

585
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Speaker 1: or a left right takeoff, meaning I plant my left

586
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Speaker 1: foot first and I swing my right foot around and

587
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 1: plant my right foot and I would jump off of

588
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Speaker 1: two feet that way. I was not very explosive off

589
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Speaker 1: of just my right leg, and I was not very

590
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Speaker 1: explosive off of both feet if I planted my right

591
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Speaker 1: foot first and swung my left foot around. And so

592
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,719
Speaker 1: it was funny because if I ever tried to do

593
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Speaker 1: a left handed layup, naturally you're trying to jump off

594
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Speaker 1: your right leg or you're trying to take off different

595
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 1: and you're not as explosive. And so now, just because

596
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Speaker 1: coaches have told you for so long this is the

597
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 1: way you're supposed to do it, and you take you

598
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Speaker 1: you end up essentially triggering a weaker part of your

599
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Speaker 1: athleticism and you don't jump as high and you end

600
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Speaker 1: up having the same problem. So what I like about

601
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Speaker 1: Tailor in his kind of thought process there is like

602
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Speaker 1: I'm a left foot jumper. His tip dunk that he

603
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Speaker 1: had in Game six against the Suns. That was a

604
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Speaker 1: left foot, left foot jump coming down the lane. That's

605
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Speaker 1: where he's most explosive. And so what he's figured out is,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to jump off of my left leg every

607
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Speaker 1: time because I'm gonna get higher, I'm gonna be able

608
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Speaker 1: to have more hang time, I'm gonna be able to

609
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Speaker 1: get to where i want to go better. And so

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Speaker 1: I'd rather in this case use my right hand because

611
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: it's a more natural finish off of your left foot,

612
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: and I'll just exaggerate the turn and kind of finish

613
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: on either side. It's a super interesting phenomena because no

614
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: one else in the league really does this, and they should.

615
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: It's a it's a Lebron does it a little bit.

616
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Speaker 1: You can see he almost does it off two feet,

617
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 1: but he does like a power dribble, gets into your

618
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 1: chest and kind of turns backwards and finishes with his

619
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Speaker 1: right hand. But and he probably probably learned it from Paling,

620
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: to be honest, But it's it's funny because I do

621
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: think it's a It's an interesting phenomenon because you talked

622
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Speaker 1: to guards who came up a more traditional way, and

623
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Speaker 1: they think it's insane that he tries doing that. Yeah,

624
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: and do you remember there was one game I think

625
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: where Lebron did it. He like pointed at tail and

626
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 1: he was like he's like I can do it too. Um.

627
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 1: I don't think people do it because it is a

628
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 1: more difficult shot. He's kind of looking at the backboard

629
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 1: like upside down right, like when he does that move,

630
00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: like he kind of flipping it flipping in above. I

631
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: think the length alto man also matters, Like you see

632
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 1: Norman Pals like a two inch less wingspan. I think

633
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 1: the winks back up. He was getting a lot of

634
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,719
Speaker 1: and ones on it too. It's just a really weird

635
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: um and it kind of fits his profile as a player.

636
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Speaker 1: He's just like herky, jerky, weird kind of style, top

637
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: of player and he's like long strides to the rim.

638
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: Was watching him last year and he has he's like

639
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 1: super he has like two ft two uh it was

640
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 1: two gathers and he's at the rim and he's doing

641
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 1: these weird flip and sometimes he thinks he's fouled and

642
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 1: he's like screaming at the ref. But yeah, he's a

643
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 1: really weird, herky jerky player. UM. As a person who

644
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,479
Speaker 1: I grew up playing basketball kind of late. You do

645
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Speaker 1: kind of get used to when you're comfortable with your

646
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Speaker 1: right hand, you kind of don't want to go to

647
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 1: your left hand right, so it's kind of like a

648
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 1: comfort thing too. Um, you just get comfortable even on

649
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: even on the left side, you still kind of go

650
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: up with your right and until you get blocked a

651
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: few times, um, you don't really change it. Um. And

652
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Speaker 1: I think Taylor is a guy that probably didn't get

653
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: blocked that many times, and he learned that he can

654
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: finish this way. So it is kind of fascinating him

655
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: be able to finish with that weird curve. It is different.

656
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Speaker 1: I don't know how many other guys do it in

657
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: the league, Like we were talking about it. It's a

658
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 1: really strange kind of move that he has. No Yeah,

659
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 1: there aren't a lot of. Tony Parker is another guy

660
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: who used to do this a lot. His looked different.

661
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 1: His wasn't so much of an elevation thing, is more

662
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 1: of an extension thing. He would try to beat the

663
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: big off the dribble and then he would just try

664
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 1: to like kind of sneak it up with his right hand.

665
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: You know. It's the reason why I brought up the

666
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 1: explosion part of it, Like the which leg he likes

667
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: to take off of nine times out of ten, shot

668
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: difficulty is mitigated by lift. That's that's how it works.

669
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: Like you know when when I when I take a

670
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: turnaround jump shot out of the post, whether or not

671
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: I get a good look at the rim all has

672
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: to do with whether or not my legs are underneath me.

673
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: If I get a good jump, if I really get lift,

674
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: then even though it looks crazy, like oh, I'm fading

675
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: away from twenty feet, even though that looks crazy, the

676
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: reality is is my legs are underneath me. I have

677
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: a good look at the rim. It's just like a

678
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,479
Speaker 1: wide open three because my legs are underneath me. But

679
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: if the guy nudges me a little bit, or for

680
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: whatever reason, I don't have my balance and I don't

681
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: jump as much as I need to. Now all the sudden,

682
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: I'm just throwing the ball at the rim while off balance,

683
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: it can get a lot trickier. So from Taylor's perspective,

684
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: like it's the way he sees it. Yes, the shot

685
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 1: is more difficult the backwards layup, but because he's getting

686
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: such good lift off of his most powerful leg. It's

687
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: actually an easier shot for him because the way he

688
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: sees it, he's above everybody. He's got a really good

689
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: angle at the rim, and for him, he feels really

690
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: comfortable coming off of his left foot with that kind

691
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: of lift, and it's it's just a it's a it's

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Speaker 1: the latest example of the of the fact that like

693
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Speaker 1: there's only so much coaching can do, uh to kind

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Speaker 1: of shape someone's game around what their core skill set is.

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00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: You know, like Steph Curry shoots with his thumb on

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00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: his opposite hand. Every shooting coach growing up would call

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00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: you insane. He's the best shooter ever. So you know,

698
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: you watch Kobe shoot, his left hand entirely comes off

699
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: the ball right before the release. Steph Curry, he's got

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Speaker 1: that opposite thumb kind of flicking through as he's as

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00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: he's shooting his jump shot. So the point is is

702
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 1: like it's better to coach and and kind of like

703
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: configure around what makes the player comfortable than to drastically

704
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 1: change things. Yeah, if it's a Lonzo ball and he's

705
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: shooting on the opposite side of his face, you might

706
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: need to to to kind of step in there and

707
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: be like, hey, buddy, you're shooting thirty percent. It's time

708
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,239
Speaker 1: for you to try something different. But in terms of

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Speaker 1: something like that, like this, what Taylor is doing works,

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00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: worked on Rudy Gobert, works on everybody. Um. Anyway, so

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Speaker 1: let's get to our our our next question, UM what

712
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: what uh? Do you think it's possible? Let me pull

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00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: it up the actual questions. We don't have any issues here.

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Speaker 1: Do you guys expect th HT to make some sort

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Speaker 1: of leap since players usually make a leap in their

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Speaker 1: third year, what kind of improvements or leap do you

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00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: guys realistically see t h T can make this upcoming season.

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00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: This is from Dom Yeah, So to me, I've been saying,

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Speaker 1: I think THHD is the highest variants right like this

720
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 1: year of what he can be it and it all

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00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: kind of depends to me on his jumper. But I

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00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: mean we talked about it last year, like when the

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00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 1: Lakers were twenty one and six, and last year had

724
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: a lot of you know, weird things about the season.

725
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: But he was in the rotation. He took West Matthews

726
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: minutes he was playing. He was a backup guard, getting

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00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 1: real minutes every single night. And I think that's kind

728
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,399
Speaker 1: of the similar role he can be in. He's another

729
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: guy that wants the ball in his hands. Though he

730
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 1: wants to be um. He wants to attack off the dribble.

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Speaker 1: He wants to be able to have the ball um

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00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: and be a shock creator. And it's gonna be tough

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Speaker 1: playing next to like Lebron and Rust. So I'm interested

734
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: to see if he can be this kind of off

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00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 1: ball threat be uh. He needs to be able to

736
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 1: hit the spot up threes at least, and then that

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00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 1: will open up the driving game. And we talked about it.

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Speaker 1: He has all these incredible finishes at the rim. He's

739
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 1: all these like weird one one leg fade away jumpers

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00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,919
Speaker 1: that he likes to go to. He has all these

741
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: like weird kind of shots that he can go to UM,

742
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: but that all goes with the jumper and Kenny defend.

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00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: Like I thought he got better on defense as the

744
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 1: year went on. I think he was an okay point

745
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,479
Speaker 1: of attack defender. He was really bad off the ball,

746
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: lost his man a bunch of time, all these like

747
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 1: split decisions you have to do on the floor. I

748
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: thought he struggled with that. But to me, realistically, like

749
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 1: he's right in your third year, you usually do get

750
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: that jump, and the Lakers paid him as if he will.

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00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,479
Speaker 1: I think he's the fourth highest paid player on this team.

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00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: If you just look at it from that perspective, it

753
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 1: goes like Russ Brown a D and I think it's

754
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: th HD at like ten million dollars um. So the

755
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: Lakers paid him as a rotation guy, and I think

756
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: they super are invested in him. Clutches and invested in him,

757
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 1: and he showed enough to me to be in the rotation,

758
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 1: and you think he's gonna You think he might start,

759
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: and like if his jumper is going, and if he

760
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: has if you remember his preseason last year was crazy.

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00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: He was averaging like twenty points a game getting to

762
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 1: the rim, scoring, jumper was going. If he has a

763
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: preseason same like that, I think he will start as well.

764
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: So we'll see with him. I think it all depends

765
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: on the jumper though, Like if his jumper is going,

766
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: then it opens everything else for him. Yeah, I'm not

767
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: sure certain if you'll start. It's it's one of those

768
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: things where I think the long term plan is to

769
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,479
Speaker 1: have him be the starting to guard on the team,

770
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 1: and so it's just a matter of how fast he

771
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: progresses in that regard, you know, for a player like

772
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,439
Speaker 1: him who's already pretty polished, like when you're talking about

773
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: a center, like if you you know when the when

774
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 1: the Lakers drafted when the Lakers got Larry Nance. You know,

775
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:14,320
Speaker 1: like with Larry Nance, You're you're looking for these each season.

776
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: You're looking for these giant leaps in terms of his

777
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 1: skill set because he's a player that was relatively unskilled,

778
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,479
Speaker 1: who was big and athletic, and he's adding these things

779
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,800
Speaker 1: to his game. Th h T is already pretty polished,

780
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: Like his handle is there, his ability to finish around

781
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 1: the rim that's there. His jumpers inconsistent, but he's got

782
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 1: kind of those things already. So the primary stuff I'm

783
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: looking at with th h T are his decision making,

784
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,720
Speaker 1: so everything centered around his basketball i Q. That involves

785
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 1: the defensive end and his awareness of off ball action

786
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 1: as well as just the principles it takes to not

787
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 1: make mistakes on the defensive end of the floor, but

788
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:52,320
Speaker 1: also on the offensive end, picking his spots, understanding when

789
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 1: the opportunity is there to attack and when the ball

790
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: needs to be swung around, how to how to succeed

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00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: in games where he's primarily off ball, and how to

792
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: succeed in games where he's primarily on ball. All that stuff,

793
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 1: to me is wrapped up into the same bow of

794
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 1: basketball i Q. And then the second part of it

795
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 1: for me would be his spot up shooting. Those two

796
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: things are the primary areas of of of uh, you know,

797
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: kind of improvement that are realistic in the next couple

798
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: of years for him, and the way to manifest is

799
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:23,959
Speaker 1: I want you guys to think about what a good

800
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 1: th h T game looks like from last year. A

801
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: good th HT game from last year. He's making some

802
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: perimeter shots, he's not making too many mistakes, he's focused

803
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 1: in and dialed in on the defensive end of the floor,

804
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 1: and he's getting to the basket whenever he wants. Those

805
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: are the kinds of like what the primary differences that

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00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 1: I think we'll see as time elapses is, instead of

807
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: that being the unusual rare case like oh my gosh,

808
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 1: th HT looked great today, the leap would be instead

809
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 1: of one out of every three games he looks like that,

810
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 1: it's two out of every three games he looks like that.

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00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: Because his basketball i Q has allowed him to identify

812
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: the things that made him successful and try to replicate them.

813
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: You know this worked for me, I'm gonna try to

814
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 1: keep doing this as opposed to the inconsistency that you

815
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: frequently see with young players. We talk about all the

816
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: time the scar tissue from losing. Well, there's a there's

817
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: a benefit to that as well, like the scar tissue

818
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 1: from winning. Call it whatever you wanna call it. If

819
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,720
Speaker 1: you as you start to be successful, your brain starts

820
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,760
Speaker 1: to naturally be like, Okay, when I did this, it worked.

821
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: You know when I did this, it didn't work, and

822
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 1: they and they just learned how to to replicate their

823
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: formula on a more consistent basis so that they're more consistent.

824
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: That's what I'm looking forward th h T. And if

825
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: he does that, for the record, it's it's a gigantic

826
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: influx of talent that could help balance the scales with

827
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: a potential matchup with a team like the Brooklyn Nets,

828
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: because right now, you're going into a matchup with the

829
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: team of like the Brooklyn Nets are more talented than you.

830
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 1: You know, they're more talented than you, unless Russell Westbrook

831
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: has like a flashback to like two thousand and seventeen,

832
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: right so from that perspective, I having th HD take

833
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:10,280
Speaker 1: a leap, is is is the obvious, clear cut, easiest

834
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: way for this Laker team to make a significant jump

835
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 1: into that same stratosphere talent wise as the Brooklyn Nets.

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00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 1: We have about time for one more question. Do you

837
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 1: want to do the Omar one? Yeah, let's let's do

838
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: that one. Let's see if yuh all right? So Omar

839
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: at Ohio says, with the roster overhaul and coaching changes,

840
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 1: what do you make of Vogel's job this season? So? Uh,

841
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: I guess I can start with this one. So to me,

842
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: like Vogel's main job here will be like we talked about,

843
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 1: this team has like a million personalities as well to

844
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: kind of to get into in control lebron A, d Karmelo,

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00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,280
Speaker 1: russ Um, And I think he's kind of the perfect

846
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: guy for that as well. He can kind of just

847
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,439
Speaker 1: be quiet, work in the film room um and work

848
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: with there. But to me, like he has to get

849
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 1: this team defending. Like, to me, that's my main point. Year.

850
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: We talked about like how much the offense will be

851
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:04,879
Speaker 1: how about the offense will kind of figure itself out?

852
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: To me, I feel like the offense will be there.

853
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: They brought in a bunch of offensive minding guys, but

854
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: I think this will be as biggest test defensively. Can

855
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: you get guys like Kendrick Nunn, Wayne Allington, Trevor Reason

856
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: who has been a good defender, was kind of older

857
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: base Mark and you get him back to being that

858
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: good point of att act defender. Like, that's his job

859
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: to me this year? Can you get this team defend?

860
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,399
Speaker 1: Because if he can, I think you're right, they can

861
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,280
Speaker 1: win like sixty five games or whatever, um if they defend.

862
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 1: And that's Vogel's main job. To me, He's been a

863
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: guy that's gone defense first every single time um, and

864
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 1: I think that's where he'll go again this year. And

865
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 1: that's the reason another reason why I think the A

866
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: D will start at the four, because I think he's

867
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: gonna want this big, bruising defensive lineup, this blueprint that

868
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 1: has worked for him, that has won a championship for him,

869
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: and I don't think he's, uh, he's going to change that.

870
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: So what do you think what is vogels like main

871
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 1: main job this season? Because I think it's getting the

872
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 1: team to defend. So I think his job is the

873
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 1: same as it's always been like people have made a

874
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: lot of this whole, like, oh, Vogel has got a

875
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: challenge this year, like this group is not going to

876
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: want to defend the same way. And you know, you

877
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: and I did a pot. I think it's two pods

878
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 1: ago Um, I'm not certain, but if you look through

879
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: our feet, it's in the titles. But we did a

880
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: pod centered around the Laker defense and why I personally

881
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 1: think that they're going to continue to be a top

882
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: five defense and I think you said they'd be more

883
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: like top ten. But we both think they're gonna be

884
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 1: a good defensive team. And you know, the offensive end

885
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: is easy for for Frank Vogel, Like, I mean, it's

886
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 1: very clear that with the way that they approached the

887
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: last two seasons, they weren't exactly trying to move mountains

888
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 1: to affect the offensive end anyway. The strategy was clearly

889
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: like we're going to defend like absolute crazy, and we're

890
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: not going to pay attention to offensive spacing. We're just

891
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: gonna basically let Lebron in a D two, the greatest

892
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 1: offensive forwards of all time. We're gonna let them just

893
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: figure it out. You know, that was basically that that

894
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: was basically that their strategy. My guess is the strategy

895
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 1: will be the same, Like, I don't think they're gonna

896
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 1: suddenly be like, now we have some offensive players, so

897
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: let's just start develop being this super intricate offensive system.

898
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: My guess is that's gonna the primary offensive responsibilities are

899
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: going to continue to fall the Lebron and UH and UH,

900
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis and Russell Westbrook. They'll have some they'll have

901
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: a handful of different actions that they run, a little

902
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 1: like those hammer sets that we talked about, you know,

903
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 1: UH with Avery Bradley coming out of the corner and

904
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 1: things like that. They're gonna have some actions that are

905
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: put in by the coaching staff, but for the most part,

906
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 1: it's going to be advantage creation. The Lakers have three

907
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:32,720
Speaker 1: absolutely ludicrous mismatch options at those positions. Lebron's gotta mismatch

908
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 1: on everybody he goes against, so does Anthony Davis. And

909
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook is probably the best mismatch guard that that

910
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,919
Speaker 1: we have at the at the point guard position because

911
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,919
Speaker 1: of his strength at that at that position. So point being,

912
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: the Lakers don't have to stress about that at all.

913
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: So Frank Frank's responsibilities coming into training camp are more

914
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:53,760
Speaker 1: or less exactly what they've always been now. The defensive scheme,

915
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,919
Speaker 1: as we discussed in that podcast a couple of weeks ago,

916
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: are they gonna be able to run the exact same

917
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 1: pick and roll coverages that they did last year? No,

918
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,240
Speaker 1: because last year you're running them with marcusol and Montrez

919
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 1: Harrold and Andre Drummond, who is not as good a

920
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: defensive player as a Dwight Howard. So there's gonna be

921
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 1: some differences there. They're probably gonna revert back to some

922
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: schemes that they used the previous year, which was a

923
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 1: little bit more of a drop coverage uh that year.

924
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 1: Are they gonna be able to, you know, rely on

925
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: the same level of point of attack defense that they

926
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 1: had last year. Probably not. You know, there's a chance

927
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: that Russell Westbrook comes back and has a little bit

928
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 1: of a revitalization on that end of the floor, but

929
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: it's it's not as necessarily super likely heat but Frank

930
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 1: will figure it out. There are defensive schemes that you

931
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 1: can use to counter this sort of thing. If you lack, uh,

932
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 1: if you lack point of attack defense, then you just

933
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: have to have a really really well set up help

934
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: defense profile. You gotta make it so that, hey, you're

935
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: getting beat off the drive off the dribble a lot.

936
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: You need to make it so that when you get

937
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: beat they always go baseline or they always go middle.

938
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,919
Speaker 1: Whatever your scheme is, you need to have it set

939
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 1: up so that people are positioned properly so you can

940
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 1: help each other. That's literally all it is. Frank has

941
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 1: his work cut out for him, but it's a job

942
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 1: he's done before, and I think he'll be fine. Yeah,

943
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 1: and I think he's one of the best that like

944
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 1: explaining kind of his defensive scheme to players. Right, you

945
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: saw last year they were still able to stay number

946
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 1: one defense even with all the musical chairs Lebron and

947
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 1: he playing playing less than half the games. Um. Again,

948
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: this is why I think he also likes that two

949
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 1: big lineup, because when you have bad point of attack defenders. Again,

950
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: this is all about putting people in specialized roles, right,

951
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,959
Speaker 1: if you tell them shade them to the rim this way,

952
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 1: it can kind of negate some of that, um, that

953
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 1: lack of skill as a point of attack defender, you

954
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,800
Speaker 1: can kind of just shade the guys to Anthony Davis,

955
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: shade even guys to DeAndre Jordan's shade guys to where

956
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: Lebron is maybe if he's being a run protector at

957
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 1: the time, I think that kind of gets some of

958
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: the stuff. And that kind of also works to the

959
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: Russell Westbrooks skill. Right, Russell Westbrook's not a guy that

960
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: wants to chase around screens or you know, try to

961
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 1: be a super lockdown defender, but he's a guy that

962
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,280
Speaker 1: does like to get into people. He does like to

963
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: get in for steals, and I think that can kind

964
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: of help him. Having two guys in the backside, or

965
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 1: even if it's just the Davis as that back line

966
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: helper being that you know, uh, what's it called that knife?

967
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: What's that knife that called? Uh whatever, it's called that

968
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:13,879
Speaker 1: but but what's it called? But yeah, I think David

969
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: seen the back to be able to be that help

970
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 1: defender that can kind of help everywhere. Um and I

971
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: think having having Russ playing into Russ's skills in that

972
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 1: way it can work as well. So you're right, I

973
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: think Vous maybe has the same kind of job. But

974
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: I think with the defenders that they lost Alex Cruso,

975
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: even Dennis Shrewder to example, it's a different type of

976
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 1: defense that he's gonna have to he's gonna have to

977
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 1: portray here for sure. The the l f R guys

978
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: were talking about how like Kendrick Nunn is the only

979
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 1: guy that can really see in the backcourt as a

980
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,800
Speaker 1: traditional lock and trail defender, you know, and that's that's

981
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 1: that's true, Like I Ken Beigemore is a touch big

982
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: for for someone who's gonna be lock and trail defender.

983
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook hasn't really put the effort in in that regard.

984
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: Kendrick or excuse me, Molik Monk is just a little

985
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: too thin, you know, th h T in theory could

986
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 1: be a really really good lock and trail defender, just

987
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: we don't necessarily think of him as a guy who's

988
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: great to put on a shooter because he has a

989
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 1: tendency to get lost. But the point being is like

990
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 1: that you just you fig you figure something out, you know,

991
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,399
Speaker 1: whether whether it is that you start switching those kinds

992
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 1: of actions, you figure something out. Frank I had like

993
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,800
Speaker 1: the last season is the best example. If that Laker

994
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: team could continue to defend at the level they did

995
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 1: with basically no front court defensive presence. Then I have

996
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 1: no doubt that the super elite defensive front court that

997
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 1: they'll have this year will be able to work in

998
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: tandem with a lesser backcourt defensively, So I'm not worried

999
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: about it at all. Well, we're at nine o five.

1000
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: You had mentioned that was your cut off. Is there

1001
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 1: anything else you wanted to talk about today before we

1002
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 1: get out of here? The word I was looking for

1003
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: with Swiss army knife that Anthony Davis, Yeah, there we go.

1004
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: I was like, what was that knife called? Yeah, there

1005
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 1: you go, so it's harmy knife. Um, but yeah, I

1006
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: think that was good. Uh. Again, we're getting pretty close here,

1007
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 1: so I'm sure we'll pick these up as as we

1008
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 1: go along. I'm share more newsical dot Job, will get

1009
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: more training camp kind of videos. There's people there's already

1010
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: work out videos of Kendrick Nunham, Leak Monk, so we're

1011
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 1: kind of getting to see them already in action, and

1012
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 1: and we'll get a game pretty soon here, so it's exciting. Yeah, guys,

1013
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: So we only got to four questions today. But what

1014
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do is I'm going to hang on to

1015
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 1: these questions and then maybe what we'll do is just

1016
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 1: kind of hit one of them at the end of

1017
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 1: each podcast here over the next couple of weeks, because

1018
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: I want to make sure we get to all your

1019
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: guys's questions. Thank you, guys, as always for your support.

1020
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 1: We sincerely appreciate it, very very excited for what this

1021
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: show could do in the next year, and Roger and

1022
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: I will see you guys soon. Thanks everyone,