Speaker 1: Oh is this a deripist guy?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh shit, I don't why bad I think you
Speaker 1: would call back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you texted me and you said you wrote
Speaker 2: get a real job, buddy. I called you and you
Speaker 2: didn't pick up.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was just like kind I was mad because
Speaker 1: I was like, hey man, I wanted to talk to
Speaker 1: this guy. You know, I'm the following your page for
Speaker 1: a minute. I didn't think it was actual texting.
Speaker 2: No, it's this real. It's all real. These are real.
Speaker 2: Like people are like, oh you made all the callers
Speaker 2: are AI, and it's like you're a real and then
Speaker 2: they become one of them and then they are like, no,
Speaker 2: I'm real. Then the whole thing must be real.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think you had like I know you're a
Speaker 1: real person because I think I saw you accomplex time,
Speaker 1: like a few years ago. Yeah, and uh yeah, but
Speaker 1: like I didn't think it would be like a real person.
Speaker 1: I thought it was one of those uh just like
Speaker 1: you know, get you to call and join the thing
Speaker 1: type of you know, but I do apolishize for that.
Speaker 2: No, And you know what, and I I and I'm
Speaker 2: actually I totally could I do a lot of marketing
Speaker 2: and stuff and I'm I'm going on tour and like
Speaker 2: it'd be helpful, but I don't like it. I hate
Speaker 2: that shit, you know, like uh, I hate like I hate,
Speaker 2: like if you sign up for one thing, like if
Speaker 2: people like there's a thing you can go to therapy getto,
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna I'm gonna market right now. If you
Speaker 2: go to therapy Gecko tour dot com and you put
Speaker 2: your phone number in it, can I'll text. I can
Speaker 2: text you, like those phone numbers I keep. But like
Speaker 2: I I've thought about it. People have told me they're like,
Speaker 2: are you keeping the data of all the people that
Speaker 2: call you? And I'm like no, I'm why not you.
Speaker 1: Should because it's like you know, I got I called
Speaker 1: because it's crazy. I was like, actually, uh, in need
Speaker 1: of a therapist and like I have both of sessions
Speaker 1: today and like I've been following you for a while,
Speaker 1: but like that post, I mean that your story, like
Speaker 1: I had to happen to random. You see it like
Speaker 1: six minutes before you got posted it and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh shit, like.
Speaker 2: Well wait, okay, real quick, do you think it's don't
Speaker 2: do you think it would be fucked up?
Speaker 1: Though?
Speaker 2: If by calling that phone number I just like opt
Speaker 2: you in to receiving texts from me.
Speaker 1: Per se. I wouldn't care, but other people white, you know,
Speaker 1: so it's a different thing. Like some people just like, hey,
Speaker 1: getting annoyed with those texts, you know. But I want
Speaker 1: to mind, you know, on my phone, I do social
Speaker 1: media marketing myself, so it's like, you know, I'll just
Speaker 1: say poor an info for sure, you know. All right,
Speaker 1: mind it, all.
Speaker 2: Right, I'll put your phone number specifically into my list. Hell, yeah,
Speaker 2: what city do you live in?
Speaker 1: I'm in Las Vegas, all.
Speaker 2: Right, I'm coming to Vegas. I'll put your phone number
Speaker 2: in my thing. Anyway, what are you coming on here? Uh? Ship,
Speaker 2: I have no idea. It's this this year sometime. I'm
Speaker 2: this year, I think the Fuckingmbary or September. Okay, I'll
Speaker 2: be there in September at almost the end of the year. Anyway. Okay,
Speaker 2: you you successfully got a hold of me because you
Speaker 2: insulted me, and I want that to be a lesson
Speaker 2: to everyone as to how to get a hold of me,
Speaker 2: because I like, I'm a I'm a I'm a masochist
Speaker 2: and I love being insulted. What is your name again?
Speaker 2: What's your name again.
Speaker 1: My name is Sean, but I go by Saint St. Louis,
Speaker 1: but like st.
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh Sat, this phone call can be whatever you
Speaker 2: want it to be. I'll but I'll ask you, is
Speaker 2: there was there a particular reason why you called today? Uh?
Speaker 1: There was a few things, man, uh but like more
Speaker 1: so yeah, I mean, like, so, how can I make
Speaker 1: this an ongoing thing?
Speaker 2: How can you make it like.
Speaker 1: Like an ongoing thing like I could call you or
Speaker 1: like pay like our subscription type of thing because I
Speaker 1: want to get h.
Speaker 2: Can you say that word for me one more time?
Speaker 2: How can you make this so what thing.
Speaker 1: Like a like an ongoing thing, like a constant.
Speaker 2: Ongoing Oh oh oh oh oh. I'm not a real
Speaker 2: I'm not a real therapist saying I'm just this is
Speaker 2: just like a calling the show. Do you really think
Speaker 2: I was a real therapist? Did you think I was
Speaker 2: a real therapist?
Speaker 1: I mean you said some real ship before that, I
Speaker 1: like was like this guy, know I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: Wait saying fuck you. You texted me saying get a
Speaker 2: real job, but then you did, but then you and
Speaker 2: you but you said the text well, thinking that I
Speaker 2: was a real therapist. That doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it was just like uh like like
Speaker 1: the minimum thing, like you know, I was just like,
Speaker 1: I mean, I knew that would get you to respond though, honestly,
Speaker 1: like you know, you saw anybody like you know, like
Speaker 1: it's like you call somebody a a dumb ass like
Speaker 1: you know, like and then they don't even to say
Speaker 1: nothing back to you. Like I knew that would make
Speaker 1: you respond, like you.
Speaker 2: Know, but it doesn't even make it. But that doesn't
Speaker 2: make sense because if you knew I wasn't a real therapist,
Speaker 2: if you don't, but if you saw it, but if
Speaker 2: you thought I was a real therapist, then why would
Speaker 2: you say, get a real.
Speaker 1: Job, Because like I don't really see that many therapists
Speaker 1: like doing the social media thing. I know it's like
Speaker 1: sound like an oxy want it sounds very retarded, but
Speaker 1: I don't know, bro.
Speaker 2: But yeah, okay, all right, I'm all right. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: disclaim for you that I am not a real therapist.
Speaker 2: There is no way to make this an ongoing thing.
Speaker 2: The only time with you that I can truly honest
Speaker 2: to God, uh promise, is the time that we are
Speaker 2: spending on the phone in this moment right now. Okay,
Speaker 2: with all, But with all of that said, we're in
Speaker 2: this moment right now. Do you wanna do you want
Speaker 2: to talk? What do you what do you want to
Speaker 2: talk about? Hell?
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, so like right now, Like I just got
Speaker 1: pulled over earlier. That's kind of got me like a
Speaker 1: little you know, on edge because but they let me go.
Speaker 1: You know, they had my girlfriend pull up take the car,
Speaker 1: uh because I had a suspended license, you know. Uh.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so that was like the one thing that
Speaker 1: was bothering me. And it's just like, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: the thing with my girlfriend, you know, she's just like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, just always making me out to be
Speaker 1: irresponsible person. But I'm the guy that pays all the bills,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's just like the yeah,
Speaker 1: those are the things I want to talk about that.
Speaker 2: Okay, So your girlfriend is making you out to be irresponsible,
Speaker 2: yet you're the one paying all the bills.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's like, I don't see how I could
Speaker 1: be irresponsible person. You know if I'm still making sure
Speaker 1: all the bills are getting taken care of and all
Speaker 1: the checklists are getting checked off, you know, you.
Speaker 2: Know that that's first of all. That's a classic. Second
Speaker 2: of all, I empathize with you because in my I
Speaker 2: think I have in my opinion, clearly it's clearly the
Speaker 2: wrong approach to this is to go if all the
Speaker 2: bills are paid, that means that I am responsible and all. Also,
Speaker 2: it is a thing that I in my life have felt,
Speaker 2: uh not not necessarily in a relationship, but just like
Speaker 2: in my own life. I'm like, you know, as long
Speaker 2: as I like in my own life, I do have
Speaker 2: a thing of like, well, if all my bills are
Speaker 2: paid and I'm like financially responsible and stuff, then that
Speaker 2: translates to me being just generally responsible. And I've had
Speaker 2: the same internal feeling. But that's all that's fucking obviously
Speaker 2: not but you, but you, but we both know that's.
Speaker 1: Not you know that, Yeah, the littleless of mistakes. Man,
Speaker 1: everybody just want to start, uh you know, just talking
Speaker 1: I want to say, talking crazy, but just saying all
Speaker 1: these uh shit like that are not even true, you know,
Speaker 1: I formation.
Speaker 2: Uh it can be, but uh, okay, you're what is
Speaker 2: your girlfriend? Okay, when your girlfriend is upset at you
Speaker 2: because she says she's you're not being responsible, what does
Speaker 2: she say? What does she specifically point to as being irresponsible.
Speaker 3: Just like like my spending habits and all of that.
Speaker 3: But I just feel like, you know, like if I
Speaker 3: have it and if I can like you know, like
Speaker 3: I said, go back to the thing of my ability
Speaker 3: and everything.
Speaker 1: Is taking care of. Why are you like you know,
Speaker 1: just like so adamant and anal about all those things,
Speaker 1: like you know, it don't make sense, and you're like
Speaker 1: putting me down, you know, instead of just you know,
Speaker 1: just uplifting your man. You know, you're saying all these
Speaker 1: things that's you know, bringing me.
Speaker 2: Okay. You so you've identified your spending habits as a
Speaker 2: thing that she says is irresponsible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like you know, I'm the type of person
Speaker 1: I buy and sell things like you know, I buy,
Speaker 1: I can buy and sell anything. That's just like what
Speaker 1: I'm good at, like you know. So it's like I'm
Speaker 1: on marketplace all the time looking at like used cars
Speaker 1: off the you know, used cars or shoes or anything.
Speaker 1: You know. So it's like she's always it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: just don't I don't get it, like you know, if
Speaker 1: it's working, I just need somebody to be more supportive
Speaker 1: versus you know, just like nitpicking at the little things.
Speaker 2: That's reason, that's a reasonable feeling. Uh No, you said
Speaker 2: it could be manipulative. What do you in? What way
Speaker 2: do you think she's trying to manipulate you?
Speaker 1: Like? That's like I think in a certain sense, like
Speaker 1: just to just kind of get her way, Like I mean,
Speaker 1: she always gets her way because like I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: buying here whatever she needs.
Speaker 2: You know, what is what's her what's her way? What
Speaker 2: does that mean? Uh?
Speaker 1: Like her way beathing? Like she didn't want me spending
Speaker 1: a lot of money. She wants me to stay home.
Speaker 1: She just wants me to not be the person I am,
Speaker 1: you know in a certain.
Speaker 2: Sen Okay, so how long are you How long I'm
Speaker 2: gonna you know, I'm gonna try to I'm gonna actually
Speaker 2: try to. I feel like I typically approach things diplomatically
Speaker 2: and I'm going to try to approach this with whatever
Speaker 2: is in my gut. But I still do I need
Speaker 2: more information? How long have you been with her?
Speaker 1: Uh? We've been together five years? About six right now?
Speaker 2: Okay? Five years? On? Off go on and says are
Speaker 2: you the one making all the like? Are you like,
Speaker 2: are you guys living? Do you guys have a thing
Speaker 2: where you're living together, and you're like financially supporting her.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I mean she can financially support herself too,
Speaker 1: but it's just like it just doesn't compare it to
Speaker 1: what I make, you know. So it's like I end
Speaker 1: up with all the responsibilities because you know.
Speaker 2: So like you so, like you pay the rent.
Speaker 1: I pay there, I pay both the car notes, we
Speaker 1: have another we have like a big warehouse. I pay
Speaker 1: for that. So it's like, okay, I don't get it.
Speaker 2: You know, so you are you are so you are
Speaker 2: in some sense like subsidizing her life financially.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean I guess because it's like if
Speaker 1: I'm the main provider.
Speaker 2: Okay, but like do you here's do you do you
Speaker 2: like doing that? Does that make you feel good? Do
Speaker 2: you feel good when you're being that kind of provider? Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's like I'm like, you know, I'm I'm African,
Speaker 1: you know, so like I come from a family where
Speaker 1: we all had to take care of each other, you know.
Speaker 1: So it's like me finally being you know, the age
Speaker 1: that I am and the responsibile enough to do that,
Speaker 1: like you know, uh, it just gives me that satisfaction
Speaker 1: that like I'm like, I'm near, like you know, I uh,
Speaker 1: I'm like I stepped up to the plate.
Speaker 2: So so listen, so so listen. And I think this
Speaker 2: situation is probably a lot more This situation, I is
Speaker 2: probably a lot more complex than this. But like my
Speaker 2: gut feeling with that, my gut feeling with this thing
Speaker 2: is like if you're okay, manipulation and the idea that
Speaker 2: somebody can walk all over you because you're giving them
Speaker 2: so much, and that the idea, this idea that somebody
Speaker 2: can manipulate you and take advantage of your financial resources
Speaker 2: or your kindness or you know, any anything that you
Speaker 2: can give them, right that is that kind of a
Speaker 2: like that idea that do you get okay? That I
Speaker 2: that idea is kind of predicated upon the idea that
Speaker 2: you are providing this financial subsididy subsidization and you're providing
Speaker 2: your kindness and you're providing these things with a particular
Speaker 2: expectation in return. And part of me kind of thing
Speaker 2: a little bit. And I don't know what your guys'
Speaker 2: relationship is, Like, I don't know what those expectations that
Speaker 2: you have are life. But I but I but I,
Speaker 2: but I, but I part of me does feel like
Speaker 2: if you're gonna be this provider and you like providing,
Speaker 2: and you like being the one in the relationship that's
Speaker 2: financially doing all this stuff, and you're gonna give this out.
Speaker 2: Part of me believes to the extent that is realistic
Speaker 2: and barring extremes, you kind of have to if you're
Speaker 2: gonna do that, do it without expectations.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, all Right, I'm not Yeah,
Speaker 1: I get that, I get that, and I'm like, not
Speaker 1: expecting nothing, bag levery like you know, respect.
Speaker 2: Sure, that's a that's a fair and those are fair,
Speaker 2: those are fair expectations to have. I I agree. I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm not say she doesn't respect me, but I just
Speaker 1: feel like a lot of my boundaries definitely get crossed,
Speaker 1: you know, in the mixt of somebody trying to prove point,
Speaker 1: you know, and.
Speaker 2: Trying to try to prove a point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then that's that's what I mean by like
Speaker 1: she trying to get her way and do all of that,
Speaker 1: is you know, somebody trying to prove a point, they
Speaker 1: will go to like the extremes, you know, or just say,
Speaker 1: like you know, some lowball ship to just like trigger
Speaker 1: you you know. So it's like I mean, like I
Speaker 1: deal with a lot of PTSD, like you know, so
Speaker 1: I just got into like an elevator accident not too
Speaker 1: long ago, uh you know, like in July. So I'm
Speaker 1: still like dealing with her like a lot of that stuff.
Speaker 1: So it's like, you know, just like people yelling your
Speaker 1: loud noises could just like you know, cause me to
Speaker 1: just like you know, just go like in a state
Speaker 1: of panic sometimes, you know. And she knows that, and
Speaker 1: I just feel like and those uh like you know,
Speaker 1: I get like that if you know a person, you
Speaker 1: should more so try to comfort them, you know. And
Speaker 1: you do you do you tell?
Speaker 2: Do you say all these things to her? Like everything
Speaker 2: you just said about like like do you do you
Speaker 2: those things to her?
Speaker 1: It's easy to say, like you know, to another person,
Speaker 1: but like you know, when you're saying these things to
Speaker 1: your partner, it's never reciprocated the way you needed to
Speaker 1: because it's like always uh I guess.
Speaker 2: Well hold like like uh forgetting about her? How she
Speaker 2: kid said like did you did you say these things
Speaker 2: to her?
Speaker 1: I haven't tried it because I like not those words
Speaker 1: in that form, But like I'm trying, have.
Speaker 2: You have you you? You have you have feelings of
Speaker 2: resentment towards your partner? Have you and and I'm not talking,
Speaker 2: I'm not and I'm not on the subject of whether
Speaker 2: or not your feelings are valid. I'm asking, like, if
Speaker 2: have you expressed them to her.
Speaker 1: Like that? I think. I'm like, I've tried in different ways,
Speaker 1: in other ways, and I just kind of got shot
Speaker 1: down because it's like I was saying earlier, it's more
Speaker 1: so a response versus a listener and response, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's more.
Speaker 1: So a defense right away when I get to say
Speaker 1: that type of stuff, you know, So I guess. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, man, I think it's.
Speaker 2: Dude, Okay, I'm gonna I think I'll let you finish
Speaker 2: before I jump in with a bunch of ship.
Speaker 1: I think more so trauma bonds, you know, I hate that,
Speaker 1: Like you know, this year, I want to have a
Speaker 1: good relationship and I want to pour into my girlfriend
Speaker 1: who probably they will eventually beat my wife, you know,
Speaker 1: but before I get married with anybody, I just feel
Speaker 1: like I need to work on these things. You know,
Speaker 1: these are very important things for me because you know,
Speaker 1: I want to bring you know, fully functional kids with
Speaker 1: loving parents in this world. You know, if I if
Speaker 1: we do do that, because I mean we were together
Speaker 1: like five years going on six, like you know what
Speaker 1: war am I waiting on after this point? You know?
Speaker 2: And she still hasn't She's and and and over those
Speaker 2: over those five years, you guys have had conflicts and problems,
Speaker 2: and for sure does does she does? She always respond
Speaker 2: in these conflicts and problems in a way that makes
Speaker 2: you feel as you as though you are you are
Speaker 2: not being seen or heard or felt or understood.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's like, uh, when I get to say,
Speaker 1: you think she has air pods, you know, she always
Speaker 1: puts on here. He always puts in her air pods.
Speaker 1: You know. There's been numerous occasions where she was just
Speaker 1: playing music when I'm doing that, you know, and it's
Speaker 1: just like I'd.
Speaker 2: Like you'll be you'll be expressing yourself and how you feel,
Speaker 2: and and she just puts in her air pods.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, she always has whatever AirPods in her ears
Speaker 1: at all times, you know, because she owns her own
Speaker 1: business too, so it's like that's for you know, word purposes.
Speaker 1: So she always has what a airpod's in you know,
Speaker 1: so she'd be trying to do this thing sometimes when
Speaker 1: she trying to tones me out, that just makes me
Speaker 1: even more mad. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2: Do you.
Speaker 1: So?
Speaker 2: Okay? I was like, when you say, I haven't expressed
Speaker 2: it in those words? What do you? What words have
Speaker 2: you expressed it in? Like how do you typically? Like
Speaker 2: do you get are you?
Speaker 1: Are you?
Speaker 2: And it's okay, you know whatever the truth is is fine.
Speaker 2: And by the way, can you hear me?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can hear you.
Speaker 2: Okay. By the way, I'm not trying this is not
Speaker 2: like a blame thing. I'm only just I'm mainly focused
Speaker 2: on I just just just so you know, I'm mainly
Speaker 2: focused on you because you're the You're the one with
Speaker 2: the agency over like just working within the realm of
Speaker 2: because if I just said your girlfriend's an asshole, that's
Speaker 2: what's that's not helpful to anyone, you know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to within the realm of of what
Speaker 2: is of you? Have you have you okay? With what
Speaker 2: words and with what tone and with what uh level
Speaker 2: of whatever? Have you expressed yourself to her?
Speaker 1: So like with me, right, I'm a pretty loud person,
Speaker 1: but like I.
Speaker 2: Don't okay, all right, okay.
Speaker 1: You know. I mean I'm like, if I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you things about her, I would have to also say
Speaker 1: things about me too, you know, just keeps you two
Speaker 1: way street.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So it's like I'm a person like I will talk
Speaker 1: to you. I'll say like like, I'll talk to you
Speaker 1: out a reasonable voice, like at least once or twice
Speaker 1: even three times, you know. And then it's just like
Speaker 1: if I'm constantly like not being heard or understood when
Speaker 1: I'm talking out a lower tone, I'm a definitely raise
Speaker 1: my voice because it's like, why am I, you know,
Speaker 1: constantly repeating myself? Why are you? You know if you
Speaker 1: heard of me? Like what is the point? You know?
Speaker 1: That's kind of how I feel about it. So I
Speaker 1: do tend to get loud after the third or the
Speaker 1: fourth time of me having to repeat what I'm saying
Speaker 1: over and over again, you know, if it's not being reciprocated,
Speaker 1: I do tend to I don't get physical at all,
Speaker 1: like your live sisters, so I can't like do that
Speaker 1: till women, but uh, I definitely do get loud, you know.
Speaker 1: So it's like I don't like that, okay, And I
Speaker 1: feel like that's the only time she actually does listen
Speaker 1: because as soon as I get loud, like she focuses up.
Speaker 1: And it's like that's also like good and your things
Speaker 1: in my head because it's like, well, I don't want
Speaker 1: to keep doing that, Like why do I have to
Speaker 1: raise my toew to start up octave?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a bad that's a that's a bad habit
Speaker 2: for that's a bad habit for that relationship to have,
Speaker 2: for sure. So I I mean, yeah, I have a
Speaker 2: few I'm gonna try to speak just from my gut feelings.
Speaker 2: And I'm also I don't know, I'm I'm pretty agnostic.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to fucking navigate life and relationships just like
Speaker 2: everyone else's. It's and there's no and it's just been
Speaker 2: to the fact there's no objective reality anymore that or
Speaker 2: or or or right or wrong. I mean, on the
Speaker 2: extremes of course, there's right or wrong ways to do
Speaker 2: a relationship, but anyway, but anyway.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 2: Two things is one, you're like, yeah, you've like trained,
Speaker 2: You're like training this thing where if I get really loud,
Speaker 2: I start screaming. She that's the only way to get
Speaker 2: her to respond. I don't have a I'm not a
Speaker 2: I'm not a trained pere mediator or anything, as you
Speaker 2: now know. But that, but but that can't But that
Speaker 2: can't be the right way to do ship, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean? That can't You know, that can't be.
Speaker 2: That can't be the wrong way to do ship.
Speaker 4: So.
Speaker 1: That we both address that.
Speaker 2: So yeah, so you know, so you know, you know,
Speaker 2: it's got to be something else. And then here's the
Speaker 2: sad thing that my gut is telling me is if
Speaker 2: you try really fucking hard, and I mean it, like
Speaker 2: you go into yourself and you try really fucking hard
Speaker 2: to present yourself in such a way where you're like,
Speaker 2: I don't want to be in conflict with you. I
Speaker 2: don't want to yell at you. I'm reaching my hand
Speaker 2: out to you in peace, trying to appeal to you,
Speaker 2: trying to willing. I'm willing to understand you, and I
Speaker 2: just want to be understood. Let's have a conversation about
Speaker 2: these things. Let's have an open, honest conversation, no yelling,
Speaker 2: no fighting. I just want you to listen to me,
Speaker 2: and I want to listen to you, and you and
Speaker 2: you really just you just really appeal to her like
Speaker 2: that in that kind of way. Honestly, Okay, if you
Speaker 2: do that multiple times and she doesn't respond in a
Speaker 2: way that makes you feel heard, you unfortunately have to
Speaker 2: accept that she may never ever ever will And you
Speaker 2: can it's perfectly legitimate for you to decide, in light
Speaker 2: of that knowledge that you still love her and you
Speaker 2: still want to be in a relationship with her, and
Speaker 2: you still want to fucking do this, and you still
Speaker 2: want to support her financially, and you still wanna have
Speaker 2: a kid with that, you still want to do it.
Speaker 2: You can decide that your love for her over powers
Speaker 2: the knowledge that you have in your soul that she
Speaker 2: will never ever ever potentially who knows that it's not
Speaker 2: a guarantee, but but but you have to accept your
Speaker 2: love over her over the idea that she may never
Speaker 2: truly attempt to understand you. That's a legitimate thing for
Speaker 2: you to do. I don't know if it's the smart
Speaker 2: thing to my dad, I don't know if it's the
Speaker 2: smart thing to do. I don't know if it's the
Speaker 2: smart thing to do. But you can do it, you know,
Speaker 2: my dad. My dad was on this podcast, like a
Speaker 2: couple episodes ago, and he was like going through this
Speaker 2: whole thing of like what do you want to do
Speaker 2: and what's the smart thing to do in that situation
Speaker 2: where you have a deep love for her and and
Speaker 2: you're taking a bet that she may one day understand that.
Speaker 2: Either you're taking a bet that she may one day
Speaker 2: understand you, or you're just accepting that she made it.
Speaker 2: You could let I just think you could it possibly
Speaker 2: live a happy life where you love her so much
Speaker 2: and you want to be with her and you just
Speaker 2: accept that she'll never see you. You could maybe live
Speaker 2: a happy life that way. But it's totally not It's
Speaker 2: not the smart thing to do by any.
Speaker 1: It's like a one it's like a one side of
Speaker 1: a relationship when it's like that.
Speaker 2: But no, it's just like, you know, you can decide
Speaker 2: that's what makes you happy, But I don't know if
Speaker 2: it's a smart thing to do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's just like the definition of love
Speaker 1: is different for everybody, you know, and I don't know,
Speaker 1: Like it's just like I don't know, man, You're right,
Speaker 1: I definitely got a lot of things to think about, man,
Speaker 1: because I don't want to carry on with this if
Speaker 1: it's like you know, constant like headache. You know, I
Speaker 1: want to drive, I want to do and I want
Speaker 1: to like you know, expert with a partner or whatever,
Speaker 1: you know, or even by myself. You know, it could happen,
Speaker 1: but it's just like, you know, it's just certain things
Speaker 1: that I love about this person. You know, Like God,
Speaker 1: I've been with plenty of women, and it's just like
Speaker 1: I see things differently that this person does that I
Speaker 1: haven't seen in other people, Like you know that I
Speaker 1: like that she has a routine. You know, it's just like, uh,
Speaker 1: they're taking care of me aspect. You know, it is there,
Speaker 1: like you know, she cooks me lunch, dinner, her breakfast,
Speaker 1: wakes up, she goes, beats our horses. Uh, she goes
Speaker 1: like you know, she's like taking care of all of
Speaker 1: the duty.
Speaker 2: I know what you mean. Yeah, I know, I know
Speaker 2: you man.
Speaker 1: So man, it's like I haven't been with the plenty
Speaker 1: of girls that do that, because a lot of them
Speaker 1: will just either be childish or just be like why
Speaker 1: would I do this? You know, she comes from a
Speaker 1: different background where.
Speaker 2: It's you both say you sound like you sound like
Speaker 2: you both are into like the kind of traditional masculine
Speaker 2: feminine roles of a relationship. Yeah, yeah, and that's and
Speaker 2: that's that's a perfectly legitimate way to have a relationship
Speaker 2: if that's what two people want for the real relationship.
Speaker 2: But you know that it comes with h you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. Every every TV show that describes that
Speaker 2: traditional relationship is involves a main involves a guy who
Speaker 2: is upset that his wife won't stop nagging him. You know,
Speaker 2: like that's just part of the part of the fucking thing.
Speaker 2: And I look, you can you can live a happy
Speaker 2: life like that, but you can live a happy you
Speaker 2: can live a happy life like that. But before you
Speaker 2: make that decision, just no, just it's have the information
Speaker 2: that you may never be seen you. Maybe maybe maybe
Speaker 2: maybe this will be I don't know, man, Maybe I'm
Speaker 2: I'm truly like navigating uh my philosophy on relationships in
Speaker 2: real time as I'm talking to you and as I'm
Speaker 2: thinking about it, as I'm living my own life. Uh
Speaker 2: maybe this woman, uh you know whatever, cooking for you
Speaker 2: and and and doing these sort of traditional things and whatnot.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's just maybe that's her version of of seeing you,
Speaker 2: you know, that's her way of of loving you. And
Speaker 2: and and loving someone can be can be seeing them
Speaker 2: in some way. Uh but and and it's perfectly legitimate
Speaker 2: if you decide that that that's something, but this particular
Speaker 2: way that you're trying to be seen, you have to
Speaker 2: accept that it might it might never happen.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: But before you do that, before you accept that for you,
Speaker 2: before you accept that that that that you may never
Speaker 2: be seen in that way, just try appealing to her
Speaker 2: on a on a on a on a different on
Speaker 2: a different level than uh uh, you know, anger and aggression.
Speaker 2: I think that's where you start. Of course, of course
Speaker 2: it hasn't been fucking working. It's it's it's not a
Speaker 2: good thing to do.
Speaker 1: But why do we always human is always thing like
Speaker 1: forest anger is like the way we can get things done.
Speaker 1: Like it's never been the case like you know for
Speaker 1: anybody in this world.
Speaker 2: You know, did you did your father yell at you
Speaker 2: a lot? Sorry? I know that's a thing more so.
Speaker 1: My mom than my dad. Like, you know, it's different
Speaker 1: type of thing. So I mean I also think that
Speaker 1: might be like a mommy issue thing two going on
Speaker 1: near it that that's not fully addressed, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: that's you know, we all live between the mom or
Speaker 1: the daddy issue, you know, yeah.
Speaker 2: Saints Sat. Sorry, I was about to end the call,
Speaker 2: but I want to I'll let you finish.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, I mean I'm cool with that because I
Speaker 1: just got to my ranch right now too. I got
Speaker 1: to see the the sources real quick.
Speaker 2: A ranch. Yeah you is that your You own a ranch?
Speaker 1: Me and my girl, well like her and her family do,
Speaker 1: but like we have a whole bunch of horses here.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, all right, so you're literally yeah, no, you're
Speaker 2: living the like you're very like traditional kind of thing,
Speaker 2: like a farmer and his wife. Uh yeah, your phone
Speaker 2: started sucking. Okay, I don't know what you just said,
Speaker 2: but I'm gonna I'm gonna know how I I could
Speaker 2: infer something what you said? Okay, do you think would
Speaker 2: could I have fooled you that I was a real
Speaker 2: therapist for.
Speaker 1: Sure, because just like I mean, the advice and everything,
Speaker 1: and gay was like pretty head on.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm just I'm just I don't know what
Speaker 2: I am. I'm high.
Speaker 1: It's just a great lizard or I don't.
Speaker 2: Usually I don't like to admit that I'm not high
Speaker 2: on every single episode, but I'm high on this one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, as you shared, Bro, I love he quit smoking
Speaker 1: weed where this year. I've just kind of been smoking,
Speaker 1: like you know, here and there. But shit got to
Speaker 1: bra to make it through life.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think that's what you just said. It
Speaker 2: is not a good thing. I don't. I think I don't.
Speaker 2: I mean I currently smoke weed to make it through life,
Speaker 2: but I don't think that's healthy. I don't know. I
Speaker 2: don't know anything about our stupid world anymore. Could you
Speaker 2: say your name one more time?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Oh Sat, Saint St Stan San Sat.
Speaker 1: We got a lot more here in Vegas, Bro.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be there September twenty First Wise Guys Comedy Club.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's like up the street from I got a
Speaker 1: photo studio right up the street from Bear, so yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll definitely pull up. I'm gonna bring over a lot
Speaker 1: of the guys.
Speaker 2: You have a photo studio.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we do photo videography. We actually are like work
Speaker 1: with like a lot of higher artists like that.
Speaker 2: And you're in a fucking photo studio and a ranch. Yeah,
Speaker 2: who are you?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 2: You're really and you buy and sell ship you're doing
Speaker 2: You're doing good man, You're doing, and your fucking wife
Speaker 2: owns a business. That's awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Hey, we're gonna smoke the blue when you get here,
Speaker 1: I'll show you around the city. You know, you can
Speaker 1: pull up to the shop too. You know, we can
Speaker 1: get some stuff going. So we got a screen priy
Speaker 1: shot too. So if you need a lot of merch
Speaker 1: start or whatever, you're out here, you can get that
Speaker 1: done for you.
Speaker 2: Okay, Man, I appreciate you. I appreciate you.
Speaker 1: You got a friend of me now because you definitely
Speaker 1: turn my good man.
Speaker 2: I appreciate that, saying all all right, I'll try to
Speaker 2: I'll try to hook up with you, and uh, you
Speaker 2: know what, send me a send me a d M.
Speaker 2: If you see, if you see after I announced my
Speaker 2: tour dates on Vegas, if I might, you might DM
Speaker 2: me and I might never look at it or respond
Speaker 2: to it, but you also might. Yeah there's a chance this,
Speaker 2: there's a chance it could happen.
Speaker 1: But I'll be like, check your DMS.
Speaker 2: That's that would get me, That would that would get
Speaker 2: all right?
Speaker 1: All right? Bet, I got you brother, Thank you, man,
Speaker 1: you have a blessed fight.
Speaker 2: Yeah you too, Man, take care all right? Bett? That
Speaker 2: was Saint. I liked Saint. That's still just so funny.
Speaker 2: Why would he say get a real job if he
Speaker 2: thinks I have a real job. He just knows how
Speaker 2: to he knows how to push my buttons, Saint, that'd
Speaker 2: be cool. I'll go down there and hang out with
Speaker 2: him and his ranch slash his his ranch slash, screen
Speaker 2: printing shop slash, whatever the fuck thing.
Speaker 1: That was?
Speaker 2: That was? That was nice.
Speaker 4: Hello, no way, man, no way?
Speaker 5: Wait? Why is this you?
Speaker 1: Dude?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: What's up? Brother? What's your name? Oh? Man?
Speaker 5: Brother?
Speaker 4: Yo, I'm Rio.
Speaker 5: My name is Rio all right, oh oh yo?
Speaker 4: Oh dude, Yeah, yeah, dude, how are you?
Speaker 2: I man, I'm doing pretty all right. I I feel
Speaker 2: good today. I feel good about life. I feel good
Speaker 2: about doing this. I know we've been on the phone
Speaker 2: for like forty seconds, but you seem like you have
Speaker 2: a nice energy. I'm excited to talk to you. Have
Speaker 2: we spoken? Have we had there for?
Speaker 5: We have not, Brother, we have not.
Speaker 4: Man. I've been a Yeah, I've been a caller since probably,
Speaker 4: I mean I've been a listener since I got to say.
Speaker 5: Twenty twenty two and cool.
Speaker 4: You know, I've tried on occasion, I've tried to tried
Speaker 4: to call in. But you know, you just got you
Speaker 4: You've done You've done a lot of great things within
Speaker 4: the last five to six years. Man, I've just it's
Speaker 4: it's great. It's great seeing you just do what you do. Man,
Speaker 4: I just want to say real quick, you're uh, you're
Speaker 4: walking across the pan video that you you know, you
Speaker 4: put out a couple couple of weeks back, you a
Speaker 4: couple of months back. Man, it just it really hit
Speaker 4: me in a certain I mean just it's just there's
Speaker 4: a lot of resonation. Man, it resonated a lot, you know,
Speaker 4: a lot of resons my bad.
Speaker 2: Uh, yeah, thanks, I'm sorry.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm just.
Speaker 2: Man, you don't have a thing we said. Sorry about
Speaker 2: it all. Man, I'm no. I I'm glad that that well, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm I'm I'm happy that that video is resonating with people.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I mean you and I. You and
Speaker 4: I are really just a couple.
Speaker 5: You and I are really just too dudes. Man, We're
Speaker 5: just two dudes.
Speaker 4: Uh, just surrounded by a bunch of other dudes and
Speaker 4: and and other you know, dude deads girls. Just we're
Speaker 4: just two people, man, just you know, we you know,
Speaker 4: we're just dealing with the same ship that other people
Speaker 4: around us are dealing with. And I mean I remember
Speaker 4: one of your one of your just another one of
Speaker 4: your videos, you know, just calling the guys talking about
Speaker 4: his issue and something you really said that you know,
Speaker 4: it's you know, just a lot of you know, I'm
Speaker 4: just I'm trying to do my best to apply as
Speaker 4: much as I can U just from everybody I encounter.
Speaker 4: But you know, you just say, sometimes you just got
Speaker 4: to do stuff. Sometimes you just got to get up
Speaker 4: and do stuff. And I'm like, I I was like,
Speaker 4: fuck man, yeah, I'm like, screw all this, you know. Oh,
Speaker 4: let me get my you know, let me get my
Speaker 4: diet right, let me get my sleep schedule right before
Speaker 4: I can really start going to the gym or going
Speaker 4: to the park and just going on walks and.
Speaker 5: Just like fuck that.
Speaker 4: Just just do stuff, man, you know everybody you know,
Speaker 4: I my I do, I got too much of all
Speaker 4: or nothing mindset.
Speaker 5: You know what I mean. Just just do it, man.
Speaker 4: Just sometimes you just got to do stuff to get
Speaker 4: yourself out of that funk. And yeah, man, I just
Speaker 4: you know, you're just a great guy, dude. I I
Speaker 4: I can't I really.
Speaker 2: Can't believe I'm actually calling you right now.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: I do just want to say it's a What time
Speaker 4: is it where you're at right now?
Speaker 2: It's about eight pm? Wh oh wow.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just it's about six It's about six twenty
Speaker 4: something over I'm out in Phoenix, Arizona.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: Shout out six oh two. You're a six oh two listener,
Speaker 4: shout out, shut out, Phoenix, Arizona Man. I yeah, it's
Speaker 4: about like six thirty right now. Man, I'm I'm kind
Speaker 4: of at work right now, and oh my gosh, dude,
Speaker 4: I just can't believe. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 5: Well, you know, I.
Speaker 2: I I'll say, I'll say a few things. It's funny
Speaker 2: what you're saying to me, because, uh, I mean, for
Speaker 2: those for anyone who doesn't know. I made this video
Speaker 2: where I walked like through like the Japanese countryside and
Speaker 2: I was kind of talking about like depression and this
Speaker 2: existential crisis that I was having at the time, and
Speaker 2: uh that that eccidential questionis was really real. It was
Speaker 2: really really real, and the depression was really real, and
Speaker 2: I feel so much better. I fuck, I took that
Speaker 2: walk a year ago almost damn. I mean, the video
Speaker 2: came out in May, but I took that walk about
Speaker 2: a year ago, and I feel so much better since then.
Speaker 2: And the main reason, I one of the main reasons
Speaker 2: I think I feel so much better is because I've been,
Speaker 2: uh just just busier. I've been busier. I've been trying
Speaker 2: to be a part of a community. I've been making
Speaker 2: these uh these videos that I'm really enjoying doing, and
Speaker 2: I you know, so it's it's interesting that that's what
Speaker 2: you gleaned because that's uh definitely been my my my,
Speaker 2: my findings. But Rio, I have a question for you.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you have time to talk. You
Speaker 2: sound like you're If you have time to talk to great,
Speaker 2: but let me let me let me ask youe this
Speaker 2: It's okay. If not, I'm sure we can find our
Speaker 2: way into a conversation of some sorts. But uh, do
Speaker 2: you was there something specific you called in to want
Speaker 2: to talk about?
Speaker 4: Not really, man, I kind of just you know, I
Speaker 4: was on a little fifteen minute break. I go on Instagram,
Speaker 4: like the many times I do, and I saw you
Speaker 4: were calling and I was like, I saw, I noticed
Speaker 4: you posted it not even seventeen seconds ago when I
Speaker 4: saw it, so I was like, if there's time to
Speaker 4: there's a time to roll the dice, I might as well.
Speaker 4: And look, Wi, I just wanted to say, man, you're
Speaker 4: just You're one.
Speaker 5: Of the very few people who so within.
Speaker 1: The last couple of years, just.
Speaker 4: Within the last year. In March, it'll be a year
Speaker 4: since I just dropped out of uh, since I dropped
Speaker 4: out of college, man, and uh, I've honestly felt the
Speaker 4: most free I ever have felt. And just I that
Speaker 4: was around the time you and you know, you know,
Speaker 4: you had made that one of you you had posted
Speaker 4: a video just calling another guy and you had said
Speaker 4: sometimes you just got to do stuff and yeah, anyway,
Speaker 4: I just wanted to say, man, you know, I I
Speaker 4: you know, I've had a I've one aided my life
Speaker 4: in certain ways where I just, you know, I just
Speaker 4: had to relearn a lot of things. And it doesn't
Speaker 4: help being I'm twenty I just turned twenty one a
Speaker 4: couple of weeks ago, so I'm I'm really young. Man.
Speaker 4: I've grown up with nothing but computers and internets and
Speaker 4: phones and ships. So I really have to I just
Speaker 4: have to learn to live without that.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: I'm making a conscious effort to live without that stuff.
Speaker 4: And the reason I'm going to that, man, is because
Speaker 4: the the very few times, you're one of the very
Speaker 4: few people who I've come across on the Internet who
Speaker 4: has a very large and growing platform who actually feels
Speaker 4: like a real person. You're one of the few people
Speaker 4: on you know, you're one of the few people with
Speaker 4: the platform that I come across that just you actually
Speaker 4: feel like if somebody like, yeah, you really you really
Speaker 4: represent just what what a person is, man, You really
Speaker 4: represent what it is to be just a human.
Speaker 5: Just you know that.
Speaker 4: And and I think a lot of people I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't really feel the need to elaborate, and I
Speaker 4: feel like a lot.
Speaker 2: Of go ahead, Well, can I ask you this? So
Speaker 2: you've made a conscious decision to uh get rid of
Speaker 2: tech and phones and and uh all this stuff. It's
Speaker 2: I think there is something going on, and it might
Speaker 2: be a little fringe of movement, but it's a fringe
Speaker 2: but growing movement of people, uh kind of rejecting the
Speaker 2: tech crazy landscape that we're in. So I want to
Speaker 2: know what was the catalyst for you of taking this
Speaker 2: this this this shift, and then how's it been gone?
Speaker 4: I just do you know, the dude, who plays the punisher,
Speaker 4: the dude to what's his fun?
Speaker 1: What's his name?
Speaker 4: Like, like, I am not drawing a blank o name, Yeah,
Speaker 4: John burnhal.
Speaker 5: He he he hates naps.
Speaker 4: He's like they're There are multiple videos of him talking
Speaker 4: about how much he hates naps, and I feel like
Speaker 4: spending hours and hours.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he hates naps.
Speaker 2: And one of the justifications earth, Yeah, he says, why
Speaker 2: does he Why does he hate naps?
Speaker 4: One of his justifications And I can understand this to
Speaker 4: an extent is he's basically saying, the whole world is
Speaker 4: moving while you're sleeping at while you're taking a nap
Speaker 4: at three pm. And you know, I can to an extent,
Speaker 4: I understand that, brother, But I guess my point is
Speaker 4: I feel I that it's I applied that to just
Speaker 4: doom scrolling and spending time on the phone on the internet,
Speaker 4: whether it be to just you know, pointless scrolling, or
Speaker 4: it just just spending time on the internet just being
Speaker 4: immersed in that world when reality is just going outside
Speaker 4: and looking at the sun and listening to all the
Speaker 4: different birds chirping and you know, saying hey to whoever's
Speaker 4: walking their dogs across the sidewalk.
Speaker 5: Outside of you, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. Here's the thing is, uh, I don't
Speaker 2: think that should apply to naps. And I'm gonna tell
Speaker 2: you why. Is because what I hate about scrolling is
Speaker 2: that you you can you can just kind of like
Speaker 2: find yourself scrolling, you know what I mean. You can
Speaker 2: just be like it's so uh, like it's just your
Speaker 2: habit for you to just pull out TikTok and like
Speaker 2: before you even know it, you've spent all this time scrolling.
Speaker 2: But it's funny because you can also do that with
Speaker 2: a nap. You can find yourself napping as well. But
Speaker 2: if you it's all about intention. I think it's all
Speaker 2: about intention. That's what I hate. I hate when I
Speaker 2: I hate when like the phone like steals time away
Speaker 2: from me that I didn't give it. Like if I
Speaker 2: sit down to watch a movie or or play a
Speaker 2: video game or something, and the time is like I'm
Speaker 2: choosing to spend my time doing this or choosing to
Speaker 2: be with certain people. That's I think like it's it's
Speaker 2: about the intention more so than it is about the
Speaker 2: the activity itself. And typically we were kind of engineered
Speaker 2: so that you find yourself just scrolling on this What
Speaker 2: have you been doing instead?
Speaker 4: Man, I've just been just reading more, man, just picking
Speaker 4: up books for just the sake of doing it. Man,
Speaker 4: I have you know, It's funny. I was never the
Speaker 4: best student growing up, but I just you know, I've
Speaker 4: collected a bunch of books that I've had just over
Speaker 4: time in school and just have encountered and just you know,
Speaker 4: friends tell me about this book and whatever.
Speaker 5: Man. So I've just been reading a lot more.
Speaker 2: What are you reading?
Speaker 4: I found a book at this antique store many months
Speaker 4: ago I want to stay around may or June, and
Speaker 4: it was by this man called Oh it's by this
Speaker 4: man whose name was William H.
Speaker 5: Dan Firth.
Speaker 4: It is called the book is called I Dare You,
Speaker 4: And it's the book is essentially him sitting at one
Speaker 4: end of the table and you're on the other end
Speaker 4: of the table, and he's saying, there are things that
Speaker 4: you want to do, but for some reason you're too
Speaker 4: scared to do them. You feel that the time isn't right.
Speaker 4: And he's saying, I dare you too.
Speaker 5: I dare you to do it.
Speaker 4: I dare you to live in every way I live.
Speaker 5: I I dare you to go through with all the things.
Speaker 4: That just just scare you, you know, all the things
Speaker 4: that you're putting on hold because you got to do
Speaker 4: you know, X, Y and C. First, you know, it's
Speaker 4: it's it. If it wasn't, if it wasn't tying into
Speaker 4: everything that you were talking about. You know, I don't
Speaker 4: know what.
Speaker 1: I don't know what I was being told at that time,
Speaker 1: or you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I believe that. I believe that. I believe
Speaker 2: that to an extent for sure. What what do you
Speaker 2: feel like you're putting off?
Speaker 4: Well, I've just always you know, I think I'm just
Speaker 4: putting off certain certain heart you know, just certain things
Speaker 4: that I know are difficult, and well let me let me,
Speaker 4: let me be a little more, let me be a
Speaker 4: little more honest. Is that I've I haven't had much
Speaker 4: these past this past these past six months have been
Speaker 4: some very pivotal six months. And that's just because I've
Speaker 4: given myself the time to just go to the BLOrk
Speaker 4: and just you know, go walking, to just read books,
Speaker 4: to just write. I mean, dude, if I had if
Speaker 4: I wasn't able to park.
Speaker 2: Well, so are are you? Are you putting what do
Speaker 2: you what do you feel like you're putting off right now,
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 4: If I have to just look at where I am
Speaker 4: currently at right now in my life, i'd say I
Speaker 4: am putting off. Hmmmm, I'd say I'm putting off. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I honestly just you said this earlier and and it
Speaker 4: really it stuck with me. It's just I think I'm
Speaker 4: putting off really just kind of going out and developing
Speaker 4: a community of my own and and and you know,
Speaker 4: in one way, justin to just yeah, just being a
Speaker 4: little more social. I'm I'm very I've always really been
Speaker 4: to myself.
Speaker 5: I've never been.
Speaker 4: I guess I I've gotten used. I've gotten really used
Speaker 4: and comfortable to.
Speaker 5: Being yeah, yeah, just being.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I got myself.
Speaker 2: Are you in college?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, I dropped out in March. It'll be a
Speaker 4: year since I dropped out.
Speaker 2: And oh yes, I'm sorry. I'm sorry you mentioned that,
Speaker 2: you mentioned that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I'm not at school, man, I just uh
Speaker 4: right now, I'm working at a.
Speaker 5: Sprouts farmer's market. It's been two years this month.
Speaker 4: And the most like, the most socializing I do is
Speaker 4: when I'm not working, I'm always at my nearby, my
Speaker 4: my closest park and just playing basketball there. I'm going
Speaker 4: there from usually six pm to eight pm. And yeah,
Speaker 4: so you know, I you know, that's that's what I
Speaker 4: that's what I've been doing for that.
Speaker 5: That's great, you know, just a.
Speaker 2: Way to way to Yeah, it's a great way to
Speaker 2: stay fit. And you also, fucking I'm sure you meet
Speaker 2: people who are going to the courts pretty often.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, yeah, we're all boys, you know. You know,
Speaker 4: after you know, after seeing the same group of guys
Speaker 4: for you know, a couple of weeks straight, you know,
Speaker 4: you just kind of you know, you get some know
Speaker 4: their names and just it's just you know, just dudes
Speaker 4: being dudes, man, And it ain't you know, it's it's
Speaker 4: really no, it's it's not. It's never been an issue
Speaker 4: for me to just be an elevator with a couple
Speaker 4: of dudes and you know, make small talk and be
Speaker 4: be cool with anybody. It's never been an issue, man, women, child,
Speaker 4: It's always been an easy time to just you know,
Speaker 4: talk to people and just kind of just be just
Speaker 4: be able to you know, just be received.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 4: You know, uh, I've I have, I've been on the
Speaker 4: Standoffer's side too. And it's funny that really came off
Speaker 4: within the last couple of years. And that's just because
Speaker 4: I don't know, I can't I can't really say I.
Speaker 5: Was surrounded by.
Speaker 4: Did you ever feel like growing up a lot of
Speaker 4: friendships were just conditional?
Speaker 2: Well, inherently they kind of are when you're growing up, right,
Speaker 2: because if you're on the bus, you just are friends
Speaker 2: with whoever else is on the bus, you know. But I,
Speaker 2: I mean, I got I got lucky because my friends
Speaker 2: and I we all kind of like grew up and
Speaker 2: developed a similar sensibilities together, and and and you know,
Speaker 2: histories and whatnot. It is. I guess you sound like
Speaker 2: when you say conditionally, you're referring to some specific feeling.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, yeah, I guess I mean for you know,
Speaker 4: I guess the example I was going to is, you
Speaker 4: know I did formative years is growing up as a
Speaker 4: younger man. I just uh, you know, I played sports.
Speaker 4: But you know, when you're not really good at them,
Speaker 4: you are you are more or less an odd man
Speaker 4: out when when it comes to at least just being
Speaker 4: on team fuck it, whether you're at recess, you know,
Speaker 4: if you're not good, you're not you know, you're excluded.
Speaker 4: If you're not good at this sport. If you're not
Speaker 4: funny or if you're not you know, if you don't
Speaker 4: you know, it was conditional.
Speaker 2: I see you mean yeah, okay, yeah, okay, that makes
Speaker 2: more sense.
Speaker 4: That makes more sense, dude, even even I mean even
Speaker 4: especially growing up.
Speaker 5: I I you know, during the you know, in the two.
Speaker 4: Thousand and ten, even if you didn't have a phone,
Speaker 4: you were just left out to an extent. I mean,
Speaker 4: you know, I feel like growing up and this is
Speaker 4: you know, this is certainly for me at least. I know,
Speaker 4: I can't speak for all the other billion people and
Speaker 4: you know, in the world, but you know, there's just
Speaker 4: you know, it's just a there there have been mass
Speaker 4: waves of just so yeah, just comparison and comparison kills personality,
Speaker 4: and there's just it's she asked me. It's just there's
Speaker 4: a lot of that was just you know, just coming in,
Speaker 4: just coming in low and truckloads just you know, with
Speaker 4: the rise of social media and as every kid just
Speaker 4: started having a phone, it was kind of you know,
Speaker 4: people just became less personal.
Speaker 2: Hm hm hm hm rio real real rio hm hmm.
Speaker 2: I think that you have a good hunch to try
Speaker 2: and remain connected, but don't. Don't people do? People do
Speaker 2: this all the time, and I I try not to
Speaker 2: like the idea. I don't know if you still believe this.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you still believe that relationships are conditional.
Speaker 2: But try not to hold onto that idea too tightly,
Speaker 2: because I I I often find that you kind of
Speaker 2: find whatever you're looking for. So if you view the
Speaker 2: world as like inherently I mean, I mean, the world
Speaker 2: is well, I mean the world is an inherently I
Speaker 2: guess conditional, but like just what just just just try
Speaker 2: not to be too on guard, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 2: like if you're because if you're because if you're, if
Speaker 2: you're so afraid of being like taking advantage of then
Speaker 2: you're just not going to be like open when the
Speaker 2: opportunity presents itself for you to be there, you know.
Speaker 2: But I think I think you're by going to the
Speaker 2: fucking uh uh basketball court and just like trying to
Speaker 2: socialize more. I think you're doing well for yourself rio
Speaker 2: And you know, it's a good idea, But I also
Speaker 2: I also like, inherently, uh, if your nature is to
Speaker 2: stay to yourself, you're I think you're doing a good
Speaker 2: thing by reversing that because you're it's better to be
Speaker 2: connected than to be uh, you know, jerking off doing nothing,
Speaker 2: I mean jerking off. Jerking off and playing video games
Speaker 2: is because you're off from playing video games is really cool.
Speaker 2: But like I ideally, I try, ideally, I try to
Speaker 2: make it so that like you want to be, you
Speaker 2: want to be jerking off and playing video games because
Speaker 2: you're tired or taking a break from being connected with
Speaker 2: other people. You don't want to bet the reverse where
Speaker 2: you're mainly jerking off from playing video games and then
Speaker 2: occasionally seeing people. I figured out a life where I
Speaker 2: could jerk off multiple times a day and play video
Speaker 2: games and still talk to people. So I do know
Speaker 2: it's doable.
Speaker 4: Do not apply this to yourself while if you feel
Speaker 4: the meat too, then you know that's up to you.
Speaker 4: Uh I now that I actually like, I'm just glad
Speaker 4: to have a little platform right now. Anybody's listening to
Speaker 4: any band, any mail. Please just understand pornography, you know, steemen, retention,
Speaker 4: those things are first of all, pornography is something to
Speaker 4: stray away from, and it will kill your mind. It
Speaker 4: will it will will fuck up your brain more than
Speaker 4: heroin just as much, if anything. And I also want
Speaker 4: to say too that semen retention practice practice practice.
Speaker 5: Boys.
Speaker 4: Boys, y'all got to get your mind right, y'all got
Speaker 4: to get your mind right. Steman retention is simple power.
Speaker 4: It is just power that if we release constantly, we
Speaker 4: will not have power.
Speaker 5: That is literal drive.
Speaker 2: That is you're bury. You buried the lead. You buried
Speaker 2: the lead. Here to go ahead, go ahead, go ahead,
Speaker 2: and then I'm gonna give you my yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 4: Well look, man, I just want to I just want
Speaker 4: to take a couple of steps back. And I'm really
Speaker 4: glad you asked me what am I avoiding? Because maybe
Speaker 4: I'm not thinking. Maybe I'm still a little bit thinking.
Speaker 4: Maybe I'm thinking inside the box two. But no, man,
Speaker 4: I've just had hunters. I've just had hunches to just
Speaker 4: go and do things, just go, and you know, I
Speaker 4: don't take the time to just say, hey, I have
Speaker 4: the time to just drive up you know, to the
Speaker 4: you know, just up north to you know, flag steps
Speaker 4: stuff north.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 2: gonna interrupt you. Uh what why why are you? I
Speaker 2: I agree with you on porn. By the way, I
Speaker 2: do think porn is like inherently not I'm not gonna go. Listen, listen,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to go. I'm i I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: go as far as say that porn is evil, I
Speaker 2: don't think porn. I don't think porn is evil, but
Speaker 2: I think it's you know, I think porn is like donuts,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, I really do porn is
Speaker 2: like donuts, like you don't like. I don't think don't.
Speaker 2: I don't think donuts are evil. I don't think people
Speaker 2: who make donuts are evil. I don't think, you know,
Speaker 2: the donut industry is inherently evil all that stuff. But
Speaker 2: and listen, I think I think it's phoenix. I think
Speaker 2: it's nice to have a donut every once in a while.
Speaker 2: I think sometimes you need a donut, right whatever. Like
Speaker 2: the healthiest a person who's now, a person who is
Speaker 2: eating healthy, it's probably not eating donuts, maybe in the
Speaker 2: same way that a person who has UH is practicing
Speaker 2: healthiness of the mind in general is probably not eating donuts.
Speaker 2: But I don't think donuts are evil, And I think, yes,
Speaker 2: if you hit a don't if you eat donuts every day,
Speaker 2: every morning and every night. That's probably pretty unhealthy. Yes,
Speaker 2: I I I agree with you on that with porn.
Speaker 2: But why do you why do you? Why? What's up
Speaker 2: with semen retention? What is that? Why are you obsessed
Speaker 2: with not coming?
Speaker 4: There have been They're just it's ancient. Mystics have practiced
Speaker 4: the the practice of semen they have, they have taken
Speaker 4: part in the practice of semen retention for you know, alchemy,
Speaker 4: alchemy reasons, you know, purposes regarding out can be.
Speaker 2: Literally you literally think it gives you superpowers.
Speaker 4: Essentially, dude, I mean there, I mean, there are there
Speaker 4: are chemical over there, there are chemical overlap there. There
Speaker 4: my bad, there's chemical overlap between the brain and just
Speaker 4: steeming retention. I know there are I know, like.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be I'm gonna, I'm gonna I'm gonna interrupt you.
Speaker 2: I if I had the choice between being able to
Speaker 2: levitate and being able to masturbate, I would choose masturbating easily.
Speaker 2: Superpowers don't, I don't. There's nothing I can do with them.
Speaker 2: If I like if I, if I if you, if
Speaker 2: I could trade, if I could trade my ability to
Speaker 2: come for like heat vision or whatever, I would I'd
Speaker 2: keep coming. Coming is more applicable to my life than
Speaker 2: any kind of superpower or alchemy. I don't. I'd rather
Speaker 2: coming as a greater place in my life than alchemy does.
Speaker 2: There's nothing useful I could do with superpowers.
Speaker 4: But that's because you've only done one of the things. Though, Man,
Speaker 4: I mean, look, I've never levitated. I can't. I'm not
Speaker 4: gonna speak for you. But it doesn't seem like you've
Speaker 4: ever levitated.
Speaker 2: But no, you can speak for me. I probably haven't. Yeah,
Speaker 2: go ahead, what what what superpowers are? What superpowers are
Speaker 2: you trying to get?
Speaker 5: Look, I'm just saying.
Speaker 4: First off, I'm gonna say first, I'm gonna say this first,
Speaker 4: that he vision would get my grilled cheese right. And
Speaker 4: the second thing I'll say is levitation. What is the
Speaker 4: apex of you know, of coming? What if that apex
Speaker 4: you reach when you come that fog? What is that's
Speaker 4: what you feel levitating? But just the entire time your
Speaker 4: your ass is separated from the ground, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean? What if that's just what if that's just
Speaker 4: the feeling that you have when you're stationary in the air, just.
Speaker 6: We've only got I would just then I would if
Speaker 6: levitating feels if levitating feels like coming, then then I'll
Speaker 6: just come instead of you to get it up.
Speaker 2: You get what I'm saying. If they're equal experience, do
Speaker 2: the easier one.
Speaker 4: I think it's like skiboard. I think now we're on
Speaker 4: like a ski skiing and a snowboarding thing, like you know,
Speaker 4: it's a.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what but this is but I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 2: What's your name again for you?
Speaker 4: Yes, sir, yes, sir man.
Speaker 2: It is real, real, real, real. I'm going to say
Speaker 2: this before we go. You. First of all, thank you
Speaker 2: for the very kind words.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: You seem like a really nice, uh sweet dude.
Speaker 5: I love you.
Speaker 1: You're a guy.
Speaker 2: Thank you, brother, Thank you.
Speaker 1: Brother.
Speaker 2: I I think I'm glad to hear you're getting out
Speaker 2: of the house. I'm glad, you know what. I'm glad
Speaker 2: you're not watching poor and it's probably not. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know the doughnut thing, and you know what, it
Speaker 2: sounds like seemen retention is going very well for you,
Speaker 2: so I mean, yeah, keep keep keep doing what you're doing.
Speaker 1: Brother.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Is there anything? Is there anything else you want to
Speaker 2: say to the people of the computer before we go.
Speaker 4: Before that, I have to ask you a question.
Speaker 2: I will answer a question.
Speaker 4: What do you plan on coming to Phoenix?
Speaker 1: Bro?
Speaker 2: Uh this September. I'm about to. I'm not gonna. I'm
Speaker 2: announcing a bounch of tour dates very soon. I just
Speaker 2: gotta do the like in like February, I'll announce a
Speaker 2: bunch of tour dates and ship so I'll be I'll
Speaker 2: come this month though, I mean not this month this year.
Speaker 5: You'll get it right, man?
Speaker 1: Then?
Speaker 2: But okay, well, I'll say if you say to me,
Speaker 2: you're like, I'm the guy we talked about levitating and masturbating,
Speaker 2: I'll probably remember.
Speaker 4: Levitation and masturbation. We got it, brother, I will say
Speaker 4: this before my sendoff. Man, is there there is only
Speaker 4: one There is only one eternal shared consciousness that is
Speaker 4: taking form of absolute trillions, and that is us.
Speaker 5: There's only one conscious.
Speaker 4: We all share one conscious and that is why we
Speaker 4: all have similar memories and similar ideas. And I mean
Speaker 4: they're like that, that whole one conscious, that eternal shared
Speaker 4: conscious that that is God. A lot of people aren't
Speaker 4: ready for that conversation, but God, that concept of basically
Speaker 4: divine source is consciousness. It is the fabric of reality,
Speaker 4: and there is only one and we all share it.
Speaker 5: We share it with the birds, we share it with
Speaker 5: the spiders, with the dogs.
Speaker 4: We all humans only see zero point zero zero three
Speaker 4: five percent of the light spectrum, so that entire ninety
Speaker 4: six percent whatever that's for the other living creatures that
Speaker 4: see different waves of light and see the echoes of
Speaker 4: sound waves. There's only one consciousness.
Speaker 7: And uh, you know, we're all one. We're all one,
Speaker 7: and we're just supposed to love each other. And love
Speaker 7: will level leve will transcend us all from this third dimension.
Speaker 7: And hile, I love you, man, and I'll see you
Speaker 7: when here in Phoenix. Man, I just know levitation and masturbation. Man,
Speaker 7: you're a great guy, dude, And just keep on putting
Speaker 7: smiles on people's faces, man, because you've been doing a
Speaker 7: great job at it.
Speaker 2: Yoh, stay safe and get blessed. Real appreciate you, grek
Speaker 2: blessed brother tick care That was Rio. You know what's
Speaker 2: crazy is think like, I don't think Rio was high
Speaker 2: when he was when he was talking just now. I
Speaker 2: don't think he was high when he was saying. Oh,
Speaker 2: that's stuff about humans can only see a portion of
Speaker 2: the light spectrum is Uh, what's crazy is think like
Speaker 2: things that like like you know, when like a guy
Speaker 2: has like an acid trip and is like talking about
Speaker 2: this ship and you're like, what the fuck is this
Speaker 2: guy talking about that? That person is always right, everything,
Speaker 2: everything real. I'm sure a lot of you heard what
Speaker 2: Rio's talking just now and you were like, this guy's high.
Speaker 2: What the fuck is he talking about? And you're valid
Speaker 2: and you're valid to think that. But he he was
Speaker 2: just he was right about one hundred percent of what
Speaker 2: he was talking about. It's all true. It's all true
Speaker 2: where there's one consciousness. He I don't think he was high.
Speaker 2: I don't even I don't think you need to be
Speaker 2: high to come to that conclusion. It's true. Yeah. Sometimes
Speaker 2: sometimes I'm like, fucking I'm on that ship, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. I'm like thinking about, uh, there's only
Speaker 2: one consciousness, and I'm thinking about the divinity of the
Speaker 2: universe and shit. And then someone's like, uh, you know,
Speaker 2: maybe maybe you're on the divinity of the universe and shit.
Speaker 2: And then your girl is like, uh, you know, making
Speaker 2: cookies or something. Your friend's making cookies, your boyfriend's making cookies,
Speaker 2: someone's making cookies. You're on the divine universe and you're
Speaker 2: talking about this shit, and then your friend making cookies
Speaker 2: is like, what the fuck are you talking about? And
Speaker 2: you're looking at your friend like you don't. Fuck, you
Speaker 2: have no fucking idea. You have no fucking idea what
Speaker 2: I have discovered about how the fucking universe is one
Speaker 2: and that we only live one life and that we
Speaker 2: are grains of sand and a vast desert of consciousness
Speaker 2: shared by the birds and the ants, and all the
Speaker 2: show you're freaking out. You're like, you're so, you're like,
Speaker 2: this fucking person, I'm saying this too. They don't fucking
Speaker 2: what the like, they can't even comprehend where my mind
Speaker 2: is right now. And then they're like, have a cookie,
Speaker 2: and you eat a cookie. I like, this cookie is good,
Speaker 2: you know, And then it's like, hey, the person baking cookies.
Speaker 2: They were it's like you can look. You look at them,
Speaker 2: and you're like, oh, they're like they're not on my
Speaker 2: level of consciousness. And then you're like, well, motherfucker, they're
Speaker 2: more conscious. They're they're they're seeing shit that I'm not
Speaker 2: even seeing, which is that cookies are good. They're not
Speaker 2: even seeing it. They're doing better than seeing it. They're
Speaker 2: expressing it everything. You're fucking up here thinking about where
Speaker 2: you're looking at people and you're like, they can't, they
Speaker 2: can't be on my fucking level of consciousness. They're they're
Speaker 2: they're actually they're at a higher level of consciousness than
Speaker 2: you are because they're not thinking about this ship. They're
Speaker 2: living it. They're doing it. They're making cookies, they're painting
Speaker 2: a they're calling their mom on the phone, they're taking
Speaker 2: a walk and looking at something. They're living this thing.
Speaker 2: So we're all It all evens out the consciousness, the
Speaker 2: spectrum of consciousness in that way, you're either living it
Speaker 2: or you're thinking about it, one of those two things. Personally,
Speaker 2: it's probably a little bit. I think it's better to
Speaker 2: live it. I'd say it's eighty twenty eighty five fifteen
Speaker 2: eighty five fifteen living thinking. That's a good ratio. I
Speaker 2: take seventy thirty living thinking. But you want the majority
Speaker 2: to be uh living, baking your metaphorical cookies, whatever they
Speaker 2: may be. Week goes on the line, taking your phone
Speaker 2: calls every nine every.
Speaker 4: Weak and goes to his hide.
Speaker 1: He's teaching yours loud in the of your life, but
Speaker 1: he's not ready.
Speaker 2: An expert