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Speaker 1: It is Thursday here at jo Let's Stadium, and Matt

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Speaker 2: The World's a Bigeon Podcast.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to Patriot's Unfiltered.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Mike, I just identified the mic. It's it's overrated. Play.

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Speaker 1: Here's the guy that we're going to key our blocking

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Speaker 3: This is none of this is right.

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Speaker 4: I think I'd live in Tennessee.

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Speaker 3: What country music career, Texas?

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Speaker 5: You have a lot of wealth that you have yet

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Speaker 5: enough that's like, you know the stuff that that play

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Speaker 5: was fun.

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Speaker 3: I got a huge you're not a fun guy.

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Speaker 6: The touchdowns that they scored in the Super Bowl. I

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Speaker 6: don't know if you remember this, Mic, I know you

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Speaker 6: don't tend to remember plays. Now, you don't like football

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Speaker 7: I think an acre is how much one single man

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Speaker 4: Plow in a day. I'm pretty sure that's where that

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Speaker 8: That's what we're talking about. When you come up with

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Speaker 6: To live in Tennessee. That was the Alexis thing ever

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Speaker 6: right there.

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Speaker 1: Okay, now we're gonna start.

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Speaker 3: We can start the show all right, man.

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Speaker 1: As you can see, it's Deuce, it's alex Evan. No Paul, Paul.

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Speaker 1: Paul is out today.

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Speaker 3: We're going against Paul right now. He's on the Sports Hub.

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Speaker 1: So myself, Chris Ferrara in the booth being assisted by Matisse.

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Speaker 3: So they're trying to figure it out. This is not

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Speaker 3: Catch twenty two.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of scrambling back there and pushing the

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Speaker 1: buttons and picking up phones and but we're we're here

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Speaker 1: we're here talking Patriots for the next two hours. We

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Speaker 1: get the Broncos coming up on Sunday, Sunday night game.

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Speaker 3: How's the weather is? It's gonna Is it gonna snow?

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Speaker 1: Possible snow?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, little weather weather possibly Now.

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Speaker 1: The day before it was to be pretty warm. So

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Speaker 1: I gotta imagine that there's this cold front coming through

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Speaker 1: and that usually caused precipitation.

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Speaker 3: When it's good for Santa.

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Speaker 1: It just depends on how cold it gets, whether it's

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Speaker 3: But if it gets too cold, would have what do

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Speaker 3: you get freezing rain?

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Speaker 1: When you get that, some times it gets too cold

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Speaker 1: to snow. Yeah, the air dries out and it just

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Speaker 3: Now, if Matt was here, I'm sure you be playing

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Speaker 3: the what are you a weather man?

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: So I saw I saw marine walking out with his

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Speaker 8: sick kid and he goes, yeah, he has an ear infection.

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Speaker 8: Poor kids, just like holding his ear like this. He goes,

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Speaker 8: and I was like, oh no, buddy.

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Speaker 1: Those are the worst infections for kids.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, my kid had a double once.

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Speaker 5: The same thing, like you know, you're all your work

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Speaker 3: But yeah, we've been there.

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Speaker 8: I mean, it wasn't like funny obviously, but it.

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Speaker 3: Was you just pointed out loser fun Your dad's gotta work.

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Speaker 1: So what do we got?

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Speaker 3: Hello? We got to fla k part two? Fred? Unfortunately, God,

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I definitely don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to, but I could could.

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Speaker 1: That at all explain Ryland's miss and also the Denver

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Speaker 3: Why haven't we heard from him yet, Like I'd like

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Speaker 8: Might have cost him. Not the guy that's missed half

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Speaker 1: And this was just the officials just not pumping up

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the cap, the kate balls don't they're kept under

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Speaker 3: I mean, like the only thing.

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Speaker 5: Like I'm bump Paul's not here because I would just

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Speaker 5: love to hear how either a disinterested he is or

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Speaker 3: That he tried to figure out.

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Speaker 5: But I mean, I think, to me, on a year

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Speaker 5: them messing up so that the Yeah, but see.

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Speaker 1: I know I'm going to open up a can of

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Speaker 1: worms here. But this is what Brady was pissed off about.

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Speaker 1: Back in the day. He told his guys, if you

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Speaker 1: because and show them the minimum amount it can be inflated.

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Speaker 8: So just just to be clear though, that the K

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Speaker 8: balls and the game balls are separate. They're separate ball, right,

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Speaker 8: so that the K balls are controlled by the league.

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Speaker 8: The ball that Brady was using in the twenty fourteen

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Speaker 8: AFC Championship game is controlled by the Patriots. That was

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Speaker 1: Well, it's it's controlled by the Patriots. But the check

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Speaker 8: Yeah, but they're those are Each team brings their own balls. Yes,

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Speaker 8: this is too many references to balls. But the other

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Speaker 8: thing I would just say is that if you look

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Speaker 8: up the temperature on Sunday at kickoff in the game

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Speaker 8: book is fifty three degrees with like seventy percent humidity.

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Speaker 8: You look up the temperature in the game book of

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Speaker 8: the twenty fourteen AFC Championship Game, fifty one degrees with

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Speaker 8: seventy percent humidity. It's almost like fifth grade science could

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Speaker 8: have explained this thing all along. Yeah, Like, it's the

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Speaker 8: exact same conditions, it's the exact same issue. They brought

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Speaker 8: the balls out of the locker room early. The balls

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Speaker 8: were sitting there, they lost air pressure, and they were

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Speaker 8: under in plated. Shocker, Like, I can't believe that that's

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Speaker 3: Want to talk about it. You're so passionately.

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Speaker 4: I never thought we were going to have to discuss

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Speaker 4: the ideal gas log.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I know that we just ignored that

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Speaker 8: I want a public apology from Roger Goodell in the

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Speaker 8: National Football League.

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Speaker 7: To from Bill Nye, who tried to say that the

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Speaker 7: Patriots cheated.

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Speaker 8: No, No, Bill ny was on the Patriots side.

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Speaker 3: I think I think I have that Atra grind with him.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I think he was more Bill. He

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Speaker 8: Bill ny was definitely on the Patriots side. He was

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Speaker 8: explaining the ideal gas a lot of people.

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Speaker 5: I'm going to be on Alex and I think, I

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Speaker 5: don't know, I I think and I know what you're

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Speaker 5: trying to say, but I think he was against He

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Speaker 5: came out against.

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Speaker 3: Bill saying Bill's explanation didn't make sense.

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Speaker 8: Okay, well that's different.

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Speaker 11: He's sign he did a whole Bill Ny whole thing

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Speaker 11: was explaining like one oh one what the ideal gas

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Speaker 8: So I don't know how we're anti Okay.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry we brought it up. Sorry anyway, that was

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Speaker 1: But it was the Patriots that reported this, by the way, right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd like to hear I mean, as Evan said, like,

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Speaker 5: I'd like to hear from the Chiefs too, if this

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Speaker 4: In the locker room.

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Speaker 7: I wasn't in their post game, but was Chad and

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Speaker 7: Bryce and were they visibly obseved?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, they were upset about something. That's sort of what

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Speaker 8: made Mark Daniels I think, start poking around and maybe

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Speaker 8: one of them told him off the record that this

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was just I mean, I don't want to

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Speaker 5: get into it, but yeah, Bill Nye after Bill Belichick

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Speaker 5: came out and said what he said didn't make any sense,

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Speaker 5: and I told ABC News Bill like refuted the coach checks.

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Speaker 3: I don't I we don't need to get into it.

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Speaker 3: But that's what I was.

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Speaker 8: I think we were just making different points.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Bill NY's a Colts fan.

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Speaker 5: Oh man, I to get it too, like just I mean,

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Speaker 5: real quick though, like that just ruined it. Like, you know,

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Speaker 5: you've been trying to get back to the super Bowl

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Speaker 5: since twenty eleven.

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Speaker 3: They beat the Colts, I mean they hammer them.

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Speaker 5: I mean we've all seen the clip of Edelman and

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Speaker 5: Gronk laughing their ass off about it.

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Speaker 3: Now ridiculous it was, but you know, you're you're excited.

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Speaker 5: You're like, oh man, we're finally gonna, you know, go

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Speaker 5: back after a few years, and you know, this is

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Speaker 5: the first thing that came out. And being on the

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Speaker 5: West Coast, you know, I know it was I think

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Speaker 5: it was a late game, but it was still early

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Speaker 5: saw what the Bob Kravitz was that who it was.

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Speaker 3: From the oh yeah, and it was like, oh no,

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Speaker 3: here we go again. And then you know, you spend

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Speaker 3: the whole week like well.

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Speaker 1: And I think if it was like week two of

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Speaker 1: it was the week before the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: what else? What else do we have to talk about? Ah?

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Speaker 1: worst and best memories playing in Denver.

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Speaker 5: Worst memory, I mean, I think that twenty fifteen season

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Speaker 8: Yer worst memory in Denver, I don't know, I'm surprised.

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Speaker 5: Know, there's a lot of there's a lot of them though.

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Speaker 1: And they went in ten and oh and then they

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Speaker 8: So, I mean, I guess I chucked that season up

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Speaker 8: not even close. It's a great I had never experienced

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Speaker 1: Hard like they the comeback, well the safety game, but

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Speaker 8: Yeah, but they've lost a lot of really big games

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Speaker 3: In Denver, I mean here, it would be the thirteen comeback.

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Speaker 1: So I was here, right, you know, there was a

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Speaker 1: and I think they hadn't won there in a long time,

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Speaker 3: The one podcast we did, yeah, a lot of those

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Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, I mean so the Hall actually tweeted this yesterday.

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Speaker 8: Their record in Denver is bad overall, eleven and twenty

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Speaker 8: only five and seven. Yeah in Mile High.

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Speaker 1: So it's a house of horror. Yeah, it's rocky horror.

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Speaker 3: I evn't brought up the five. I mean that game.

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Speaker 3: That loss like it would.

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Speaker 1: And I think there's like little moments in all of

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Speaker 5: Like sometimes I feel like I remember the away games

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the live games, it's it's harder to like.

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Speaker 8: That happens a lot because I'm like obviously tweeting about

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Speaker 8: I feel like, you know, in my house, like Patriots

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Speaker 8: and like it's just you know, I just will never forget,

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Speaker 8: I miss being able to do that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I can't think of any other place that

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Speaker 3: Baltimiami there in Miami.

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Speaker 1: Baltimore, we've had Miami. That's another one, of course, of course.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, those are those are the two Buckebooths of of you.

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Speaker 8: Know, Patriots, the dynasty.

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Speaker 5: Right, no matter what team they had those places. And

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Speaker 8: Or no, but other other Like every team has like

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Speaker 3: So yeah, that eighteen team that was eighteen.

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Speaker 8: Nineteen had like it was week seventeen and nineteen, like

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Speaker 5: After beating them, like well, I mean just rolling them

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Speaker 1: All right, eight five five Pats five hundred is the

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Speaker 1: ACE ticket hotline? Web radio at Patriots dot com is

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Speaker 1: the email address? All crazy? Oh, there we go, something's

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Speaker 1: happening branding. Let's let's go to the phones because we've

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Speaker 3: Sure, am, I got? I'm ready to go?

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Speaker 1: And do you have what happened last week? No?

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Speaker 8: We have a lot of problems with picks today because

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we do picks earlier.

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Speaker 1: You'll have to give Deuce your pick your pick.

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Speaker 8: I'll give my picks. I make my picks, though everybody's

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to the phones. The A sticket hut line?

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Speaker 1: Tyreek is in Charleston? Is that Charlestown, Charleston, South Carolina? Whiche?

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Speaker 1: Where are you from? I'm in Charleston in the Carolinas

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Speaker 12: All right, good to speak with you, guys. I hate

444
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Speaker 12: to bring this up, but I got two questions for

445
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Speaker 12: you guys.

446
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Speaker 13: Is when we look back, if Bill does leave.

447
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Speaker 12: This team an offseason as say that project players were

448
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Speaker 12: the true downfall of this organization. And the second question

449
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Speaker 12: is is that is if Bill does stay, will we

450
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Speaker 12: look at this draft and say he's not going to

451
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Speaker 12: take the consensus best pick if we have a top

452
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Speaker 12: ten pick.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I would say no.

454
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Speaker 5: I think it's he's missed on the layup the high

455
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Speaker 5: end guys. It's not the projects that's hurt them. It's

456
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Speaker 5: been missing on first round draft picks and the talented

457
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Speaker 5: guys of just those that's the core that's supposed to

458
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Speaker 5: be here not you know, I think it's fine to

459
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Speaker 5: take flyers on guys, and I'm sure that there's been

460
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Speaker 5: some you know.

461
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Speaker 3: That some earlier developed better than those later.

462
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Speaker 5: But to me, it's like you look at their first

463
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Speaker 5: and second round picks going back to twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen,

464
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Speaker 5: that tonnage of all those missus building on each other,

465
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Speaker 5: and now we're sitting here without a core. We don't

466
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Speaker 5: really have many star players that that, to me is

467
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Speaker 5: is the biggest issue.

468
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I feel like some of the in the recent drafts,

469
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Speaker 8: like some of their flyers on three or have actually

470
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Speaker 8: been their best picks, like Mike on Winnie, Yeah, probably,

471
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Speaker 8: you know, Pop Douglas this year is probably their best

472
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Speaker 8: rookie they they've they've actually hit on a few of

473
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Speaker 8: those types of guys. I agree with you said. It's

474
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Speaker 8: it's the top of the roster guys. You know, Cole Strange,

475
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Speaker 8: it's uh, you know, Matt Jones unfortunately now is looking

476
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Speaker 8: like one of those misses. So yeah, like those are

477
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Speaker 8: the picks that have been killing them. But it just

478
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Speaker 8: interesting though, Like I don't trust him, but I don't

479
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Speaker 8: know about how you guys feel of like giving Bill

480
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Speaker 8: the number two overall pick in the draft and giving

481
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Speaker 8: him control of the pick again. You know, like he's

482
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Speaker 8: had and I don't necessarily think that he would go

483
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Speaker 8: and pick a ut Chattanouga guard again. But like, he's

484
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Speaker 8: probably not gonna pick the sexy pick, right, Like it's

485
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Speaker 8: not gonna be Marvin Harrison Junior. It's probably gonna be

486
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Speaker 8: Olo Fashanu or you know, something like that. And you know,

487
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Speaker 8: how would we all feel about that, I guess, or

488
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Speaker 8: him taking a defensive player like or something like that.

489
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just wonder how it all feeds into what.

490
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Speaker 5: You know, we talked about what he would say, what

491
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Speaker 5: his pitch would be to the Crafts and essentially would

492
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Speaker 5: be boiled down to, I don't a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: You know, we didn't get good quarterback play.

494
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Speaker 5: So does that you know, if that was the case,

495
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Speaker 5: would that mean he had to take a quarterback or

496
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Speaker 5: you know, I just I don't know.

497
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Speaker 3: Maybe I mean, maybe he you.

498
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Speaker 1: Know, he's takes a tackle, you know, despite him sometimes

499
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Speaker 1: saying I don't know or I don't remember, he's got

500
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Speaker 1: a photographic memory when it comes to this stuff. And

501
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Speaker 1: I'm sure that he could sit down with the exception

502
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Speaker 1: of the Cowboys in the Saints game, probably tell Robert

503
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Speaker 1: Kraft the key points in each game where they could

504
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Speaker 1: have won or lost it and you know, whether it

505
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Speaker 1: was a turnover or whatever, and show how close they

506
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Speaker 1: were to winning some of those games, you know. And

507
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Speaker 1: but it goes beyond that. It goes beyond just the thing.

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Speaker 5: I mean, just like even something as simple as like

509
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Speaker 5: this year with the special teams, like we just kind

510
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Speaker 5: of shifted Joe Judge over there and it made no

511
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Speaker 5: difference at all. Like, you know, those are the kind

512
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Speaker 5: of things that like, like it's not just like the

513
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Speaker 5: big pieces, it's like these little moves that haven't paid off.

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Speaker 5: And you know, I don't want to get on Adrian

515
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Speaker 5: klemb I don't know, you know what he's dealing with,

516
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Speaker 5: but it's you know, these a lot of these moves

517
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Speaker 5: didn't work out. You weren't able to get past all

518
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Speaker 5: the problems you had last year, and I mean, I

519
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Speaker 5: just I still think last year was just the travesty

520
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Speaker 5: that was you know, that whole situation with the offense, and.

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Speaker 1: Then there's a lot of things that we don't even

522
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Speaker 1: know about. You know, like like it's kind of coming

523
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Speaker 1: out now that you know, Malie Cunningham really did have

524
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Speaker 1: a lot of guys who were wondering, how come he's

525
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Speaker 1: not playing, you know, things like that, and yeah, you know.

526
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Speaker 3: I don't you don't remember that stuff coming out before,

527
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Speaker 3: Like I.

528
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Speaker 7: Know Sophie about this year, it just feels like not

529
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Speaker 7: that that was a leak, because Sophie literally got it

530
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Speaker 7: in locker, right, but just all the leaks this year,

531
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Speaker 7: all just the narratives coming out from unnamed sources, and

532
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Speaker 7: it's just so different.

533
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Speaker 4: We've never really dealt with this.

534
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Speaker 5: And it's because it's a three win season two and

535
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Speaker 5: it's like it's what happened, no balls, and it falls apart.

536
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Speaker 5: I mean, I mean I said it, you know, to

537
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Speaker 5: the guys. I mean I don't really ever remember. You know,

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Speaker 5: I usually get in here about eight fifteen, eight thirty

539
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Speaker 5: somewhere in there, and you know, there's just been multiple

540
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Speaker 5: times this year where there are guys like honking behind

541
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Speaker 5: me to get through the gate because I'm assuming they

542
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Speaker 5: got an eight thirty meeting and everybody.

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Speaker 3: You know, what happened in the day is of first one,

544
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Speaker 3: first last one.

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Speaker 1: You're on time, you're like you're late, right, and.

546
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Speaker 5: These are like you know, and I I mean, I've

547
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Speaker 5: always this has been my schedule. I don't I don't

548
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Speaker 5: ever recall like, oh my gosh, there's like six cars

549
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Speaker 5: just come flying into.

550
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Speaker 3: The parking lot like at eight twenty eight, you know,

551
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Speaker 3: trying to get in. So it's it's a lot of stuff.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I can't say I'm surprised.

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Speaker 5: This is what you kind of expect to have happen,

554
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Speaker 5: is people start to talk, people start to get disengaged,

555
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Speaker 5: and it slowly just kind of.

556
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Speaker 3: Said this, So what do you say about it?

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Speaker 8: And I like, I wonder, you know, we talked so much,

558
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Speaker 8: and I talk so much about like personnel and x's

559
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Speaker 8: and o's and all this kind of stuff. Like special teams,

560
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Speaker 8: I think is a great example of this, Like how

561
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Speaker 8: much of that is just buy it? Like in special

562
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Speaker 8: teams is not like you're not reinventing the wheel on

563
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Speaker 8: special team team, right, It's just like this is what

564
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Speaker 8: we do. This is what every other team does, and

565
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Speaker 8: like you have to go and cover this punt and

566
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Speaker 8: teams that you know in the past with the Patriots

567
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Speaker 8: that have had great special teams, how much of that

568
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Speaker 8: was just because they knew that, like one play on

569
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Speaker 8: special teams could win them a super Bowl. Whereas now

570
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Speaker 8: it's like, okay, we're three and eleven. Who gives a

571
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Speaker 8: crap about covering this kick right now? And I think

572
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Speaker 8: that those like buy in things are are Maybe it

573
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Speaker 8: was a sense of pride, Yeah, like that, that's maybe

574
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Speaker 8: number one over all the other stuff.

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Speaker 1: Well, I heard on one of Paul's shows this morning

576
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Speaker 1: they were talking about all on it. No, you know,

577
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Speaker 1: will you regret it if Bill goes to another team

578
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Speaker 1: and has success? And in my opinion, no, I wouldn't

579
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Speaker 1: because I hope that he goes and has success. It's

580
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Speaker 1: just not going to happen here. Yeah, it's just you know,

581
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's washed up, but I think that

582
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Speaker 1: the situation here has been played out, and I think

583
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Speaker 1: it's good for him to move on, just like in

584
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Speaker 1: Brady's mind it was good for him to move on.

585
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Speaker 5: You know, it's become a common refrain that I've heard

586
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Speaker 5: a lot. I got to admit it kind of annoys me.

587
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Speaker 5: It's just time.

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Speaker 1: It's just time, that's what got You know it when

589
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Speaker 1: you see it, You know it when you see it.

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Speaker 8: But I also just I don't get the regrets thing

591
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Speaker 8: of like, you know, if he goes on and wins

592
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Speaker 8: the Super Bowl else like, who cares? Like it's he's

593
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Speaker 8: not the right coach, but he wasn't gonna do what

594
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Speaker 8: he makes?

595
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Speaker 7: You wonder though, like why not? Where's the disconnect? Why

596
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Speaker 7: did it fall apart?

597
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Speaker 1: Why? I don't know, well written, you know, we'll find

598
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Speaker 1: out more and down the road.

599
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Speaker 3: Maybe as soon as this February with the dynasty, Like that's.

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Speaker 8: Is why I have my doubts of him going on

601
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Speaker 8: and being super successful elsewhere though too is you know,

602
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Speaker 8: I've been asking around the locker room a little bit

603
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Speaker 8: about Drod Mayo, just like what kind of coaches he

604
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Speaker 8: you know, what what makes him a good coach? Because

605
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Speaker 8: if he is the next head coach of the Patriots,

606
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Speaker 8: you know, I want to try to know as much

607
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Speaker 8: as I can about him. And I think a lot

608
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Speaker 8: of players I've spoken to have said that have pointed

609
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Speaker 8: to other situations around the league and some of these

610
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Speaker 8: younger head coaches and how their buildings are being run.

611
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Speaker 8: And one player mentioned to me that he has a

612
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Speaker 8: former college teammate that plays for the Dolphins and he

613
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Speaker 8: said that, you know the stories that this guy tells

614
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Speaker 8: him about McDaniel and how loose and how like fun

615
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Speaker 8: he is to be around, and just like how just

616
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Speaker 8: like quirky he is, and like just how laid back

617
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Speaker 8: it is. He's like, you know, it's not that they

618
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Speaker 8: don't get down to business when they need to get

619
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Speaker 8: down to business, but it's just it's easier to play

620
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Speaker 8: for him. And that's how a lot of the guys

621
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Speaker 8: talk about Girod is that like he's a player's coach,

622
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Speaker 8: and he has that sort of pulse of like I

623
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Speaker 8: wouldn't want to be a drill sergeant either, like playing

624
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Speaker 8: for that. So I think that for better or worse,

625
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Speaker 8: you know, there's a lot of these modern athletes really

626
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Speaker 8: are gearing themselves more towards the McDaniel people.

627
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Speaker 1: Did you see the clip I'm just where he's given

628
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Speaker 1: the talk. I thought it was good, like the accountability

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Speaker 1: part of it. I thought, it's to me, it's a

630
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Speaker 1: little off putting with all the swearing, like I don't

631
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Speaker 1: think he needs to do that. It didn't seem to me.

632
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Speaker 1: It was distracting when he swore. Otherwise, I thought it

633
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Speaker 1: was a great message, like I'm gonna call really bad plays,

634
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 1: gonna be on me and I'm gonna screw up. But

635
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Speaker 1: don't get mad, don't get sad, just move on. You know,

636
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: good play, bad play, next play.

637
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Speaker 3: Just just some context.

638
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Speaker 5: So this is from Hard Knocks and season Hard Knocks,

639
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 5: and it's and it's one of my favorite stuff to

640
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 5: watch is when the coach is actually talking to the

641
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 5: team and McDaniels, you know, come up and and and

642
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 5: like Fred said, taking responsibility but you know, putting a

643
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 5: play up and basically ripping himself on the film, which

644
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Speaker 5: you know, I think you respect, but I totally agree

645
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Speaker 5: with you.

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Speaker 1: Like, why is he just like it's just every other

647
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Speaker 1: word and yeah, it's like he's trying to fit in.

648
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Speaker 3: I know, yeah, well yeah, yeah.

649
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Speaker 4: That's what it comes down to.

650
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Speaker 7: I think, especially as the season's gone on, he's got

651
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 7: in so much attention this year, like at this point

652
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Speaker 7: he kind of knows.

653
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Speaker 4: What he's doing.

654
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, I mean, he's a he's a great coach.

655
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Speaker 5: I just uh, you know, I think the interesting thing

656
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Speaker 5: with him is are they gonna, you know, be able

657
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Speaker 5: to kind of change the narrative. They're well aware of

658
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 5: what the narrative is, do you see two will get

659
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Speaker 5: up and be like, you want to say that I'm

660
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Speaker 5: nothing without Tarik saying I don't care, like I'm just

661
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Speaker 5: here to do my job, you know.

662
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Speaker 3: I mean, I I like how to ha handled it.

663
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Speaker 5: But at the end of the day, you guys got

664
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 5: to go out and win, and you're gonna have to

665
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Speaker 5: unless you get home field, you're gonna have to go

666
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 5: into you know, on a waste stadium and win probably

667
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 5: in kind of harsh condition against you know, do you

668
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 5: have that toughness or you kind of you know, like

669
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,640
Speaker 5: your coach when everything's going great, it's great, and.

670
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Speaker 1: Then there's the test if that keeps happening of whether

671
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 1: or not McDaniel's style works. Yes, when you're right, when

672
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: you're in front, you know, okay, But.

673
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Speaker 8: I just think that you know, they mentioned McDaniel because

674
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 8: his college he may play for McDaniel, But he also

675
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 8: mentioned some other of the younger coaches, Damiko Ryans, you know,

676
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 8: so he said, you know, I'm not as familiar, but

677
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 8: like that's what I've heard, you know, just from talking

678
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 8: to guy you know, friends and stuff around the league

679
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 8: that you know, these younger coaches just take a much

680
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 8: different approach. To criticism, to schedule, to all of it.

681
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:51,479
Speaker 8: And I just wonder if if Bill hasn't isn't going

682
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 8: to be able to adapt to that sort of culture,

683
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 8: Like it's not the way it was twenty years ago

684
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 8: when you could be a drill sergeant with these guys,

685
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 8: or you can get up there and you know, guys

686
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 8: on the in front of the entire team and have

687
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 8: everybody be okay with that.

688
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 1: Like, and I wouldn't be surprised if, you know, if

689
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: he did go to another team, if he didn't change up.

690
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: Like when you're here, it's hard to change up because

691
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: like this is who I am. I'm not gonna, like

692
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 1: all of a sudden become a different guy here. But

693
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: when you go to a new place, it's a fresh

694
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: start and maybe you can adjust a little bit better,

695
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: you know, with these this new team and new players.

696
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, what I always wonder with hard Knocks. Did you

697
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 8: see the clip of him like saying one play drive,

698
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 8: one play drive. So he's like on the sideline, was

699
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 8: before Jalen Wattles touchdown this past week, and he Tyreek

700
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 8: is like standing in street clothes on the sideline and

701
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 8: McDaniel goes up to Tyreek, and he's like, I got

702
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 8: I just got a feeling that like this is gonna

703
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 8: be a one play drive like that. And then he

704
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 8: just looks at him and he just goes. I said,

705
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 8: a feeling like that with Wattle is just gonna this

706
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 8: is gonna just be a touchdown to Wattle.

707
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Speaker 14: What do you say?

708
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 4: He's like a manifesting Yeah.

709
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

710
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 8: And then the very next play, sixty yard touchdown to

711
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 8: Jalen Wattle. So like, is that was that editing?

712
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 1: Like they like, well, that's the NFL films? Does that

713
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: all right?

714
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 8: So do they clip that from like a different part

715
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Speaker 8: of the game.

716
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Speaker 5: And then it just seems like Daniel humor to like

717
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 5: kind of put that in play, you know what I mean,

718
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 5: Like he's like the next like after it happened, he

719
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 5: would record that to give it to him.

720
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Speaker 8: Yeah, but if it because like all had like wild

721
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 8: just runs by his guy. It's not like it was

722
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 8: like some like dressed up player or something like that.

723
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 5: Well that's and that to that point, I mean, and

724
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Speaker 5: I've mentioned this to you guys a little bit as

725
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 5: we've talked about you know, we all hope that you know,

726
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 5: they get if they get a new coach that it's

727
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 5: going to be somebody offensive and you know that he's

728
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 5: going to be.

729
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 3: Able to pick a quarterback and be his guy.

730
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Speaker 5: But you know, is there something just to be said

731
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 5: for the guys like Tamiko Ryans or maybe someone like

732
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Speaker 5: Drame who maybe necessarily isn't an offensive.

733
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 3: Guru, but it's just a guy that that.

734
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Speaker 5: People want to follow and that you know that they're

735
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 5: gonna buy what he's selling, you know, And and sure

736
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 5: we'd love to have the you know, the offensive whiz,

737
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 5: but you know, I don't. I don't think that this

738
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 5: means like that every NFL team now needs to have

739
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 5: an offensive head coach. I think, you know, I mean,

740
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 5: maybe he is, but maybe he's also a defensive guy

741
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 5: like likes or you know, you're seeing a little bit

742
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 5: with Antonio Pierce. I know that's a weird situation with

743
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 5: the Raiders, and it's kind of the inmates running the

744
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 5: asylum right now. But you know, you just you see

745
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 5: these guys react to those coaches and you know that

746
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 5: they're going to go out and play hard for them.

747
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 5: And I think that that, you know, is probably the

748
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 5: biggest thing rather than hey we've got the best you

749
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 5: can have the best scheme, but if your guys aren't

750
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 5: going to play for you, it's it's.

751
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 3: Not gonna matter because they're not going to execute.

752
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean owl from Wisconsin is the thing that

753
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: sticks with me from McDaniel is actually when they were

754
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: blowing someone out and the backup quarterback throws a pick.

755
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: McDaniel then goes up to him and says, hey, man,

756
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: that's on me. I called a bad play. I couldn't

757
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: see Bill doing that in a thousand years.

758
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 5: I agree with no, And I mean, and you know,

759
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 5: when you read between the lines a little bit, I mean,

760
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 5: and Jalen Mills had like a tweet like last week

761
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 5: about like it's amazing what happens when your coaches believe

762
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 5: in you, and I just, you know, I do I

763
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 5: wonder what I mean, everybody's always said, anybody that's played

764
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 5: in this building has said it's it's really hard here

765
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,719
Speaker 5: and you really have to be into football, and you know,

766
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 5: I and I just wonder as time has progressed if

767
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 5: there's because I do think there are still guys that

768
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 5: appreciate that. Like I think Gibral Peppers is like, fine,

769
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 5: he doesn't need a pat on the back. He wants

770
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 5: somebody who's gonna, you know, get him motivated and tell

771
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 5: him what needs to be done. And you know, but

772
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 5: I just wonder if if it shifted a little bit

773
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 5: and now there's a more majority of players who are

774
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 5: like I just wish coach was nice to me, and

775
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 5: then I play hard.

776
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: For I know, but you know, like say saying I

777
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 1: called a bad play but we won, you know, is

778
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: but if you start losing a lot, then.

779
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 3: Me again, guys, yeah, you know, coach.

780
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: You can't do that. You know, you can't do that.

781
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 1: So it's it's.

782
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 3: A fine line.

783
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: And I think at the bottom line, for a head coaches,

784
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: they have to be true to themselves and honest, they

785
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: can't be some they can't be you know, they have

786
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: to be themselves because yeah, people see right through that.

787
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 8: But but so the Jets are on hard knocks at

788
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 8: the normal time in the summertime, and like Robert Sola

789
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 8: came off a little bit performative too, So I wonder

790
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 8: how much of that is just editing and they know

791
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 8: they're on camera, like.

792
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 3: It can't help but change a little bit when cameras.

793
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 8: Are Yeah, yeah, but I was talking to My problem

794
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 8: is I don't change to Jabriel about Gerard Mayo too,

795
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 8: and he you know, he said that like the the

796
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 8: two things that he looks at for in a head

797
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:16,239
Speaker 8: coach are great motivator and great teacher, Like those are

798
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 8: the two big things. And like to your point, he

799
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 8: didn't say like great x as and O's guy, right,

800
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,719
Speaker 8: he didn't say, you know, great schemeer, great game planner.

801
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 8: So maybe the best motivator and teacher is not an

802
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 8: offensive coach, Like maybe that is Gerrod Mao, maybe that

803
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 8: is you know, well.

804
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: Ourselves told me, you know, coaching is teaching, That's what

805
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: it is.

806
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 5: I mean, you know clearly, you know, Kyle Shanahan I

807
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 5: would say, has both. You know, it seems Sean McVay

808
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 5: for a while at least, I mean, his guys all

809
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 5: really you know, seem to play for him. And I

810
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 5: mean I think just you know, part of it is

811
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 5: is the next generation of younger coaches that I.

812
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 3: Mean, they just they can't help. I mean, Bill's my

813
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 3: dad's age, you know.

814
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 8: It's yeah, And I think Bill is probably his best

815
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 8: trade is his ability to teach the game. Like I

816
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 8: think that's what really I wish that we could like

817
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 8: showcase that more because that's by far like what he's

818
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 8: the best at, which is why I think he's been

819
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 8: so good and more than any of the other I.

820
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 1: Tell the story all the time when he came in

821
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: ninety six as a defensive assistant for Parcels and it

822
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 1: was we're at training camp in Bryant and Lawyer Malloy

823
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,280
Speaker 1: was holding court and he said, this guy's a genius,

824
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: you know, and he just met him because the way

825
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,760
Speaker 1: he makes it so easy to understand he's a genius.

826
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 1: And that always stuck with me, you know, Like Looyer,

827
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: Malloy was a guy. Lawyer Molloy was a guy who

828
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 1: always spoke his mind. Like if you cut a guy

829
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: and he didn't like it, he'd circle.

830
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 8: Back and cute and tell you so.

831
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:45,399
Speaker 1: But like, you know that that's stuck with me, and

832
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: I've heard it from a lot of players since, that

833
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: you understand what you have to do when you play

834
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 1: for Bill Belichick. He makes it very clear to you

835
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: what your responsibility is and what the expectation is for you,

836
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: and then it's up to you to do it.

837
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, he's gonna be honest with you too. Yeah,

838
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 3: that's part of it.

839
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 5: I don't I always balked at the genius thing, and

840
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 5: it's interesting hearing it like come from lawyer Malloy's mouth.

841
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 5: But like, you know, I just I think some of

842
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 5: it was Bill was unfairly saddled with he's a genius.

843
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 1: Well, his own dad said, genius, all you do is

844
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,919
Speaker 1: walk up and down the sideline. It's his father.

845
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 5: Well, and that's the standard that I think people some

846
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 5: people hold him to, and it's like.

847
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: He's just a football coach, like well, I think within

848
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 1: the confines of football, he's a genius football. We understand

849
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: his IQ for football is out of this world. Yeah,

850
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: I think I think overall he's he's a really really

851
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: intelligent person, you know, like he's a smart guy.

852
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 5: Well, you see with the history, I think that's as

853
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 5: close as you really get consistently, other than as I

854
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 5: brought up a billion times, the the O nine doc

855
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 5: where you actually got to see film of Bill talking

856
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 5: to the team, and you know, there's no filter. It's

857
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 5: you know, everything we hear through the media's is filtered.

858
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 5: And you know, I understand and I respect that, but

859
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 5: you know, there's just it's cool when you hear about

860
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,800
Speaker 5: what what buttons he's actually you know, trying to push

861
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 5: showing old boxing matches or old horse races or you know,

862
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 5: all those different kind of techniques that that I really

863
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 5: just enjoyed that Jackleton. I mean, those are the things

864
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 5: that I really enjoy about about the coaching profession and

865
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 5: just you know, trying to get I mean, this is

866
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 5: how I always put it. I have one year coaching

867
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 5: club hockey. But it's it's really hard to get a

868
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 5: bunch of individuals to play together the way you want

869
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 5: them as a team. It's it's you don't you don't

870
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 5: know what buttons to push, kids are in line, out

871
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 5: of line, you don't know.

872
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 3: And it's a it's a really really hard job to do.

873
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 3: And I mean I respect those who do it.

874
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: All right, let's get back to the phones. Let's go

875
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 1: to Arthur in New York. What's up, Arthur.

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Speaker 15: How's it going, guys?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 15: The first thing I wanted to say was, I think

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Speaker 15: Belichick is an absolute home run with the special teams

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Speaker 15: this year. Baringer is I think I just saw leading

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Speaker 15: the Pro Bowl vote and Ryland absolute home run as

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Speaker 15: he's got us in the top three for a draft pick.

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Speaker 15: And I absolutely love Jaydan and Daniels. And when you

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Speaker 15: ask anybody what's the big knock on Jadane Daniels, they

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Speaker 15: say he's too skinny. He's six three, one hundred and

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Speaker 15: eighty pounds. If that's the biggest knock on him, then

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Speaker 15: that's like someone saying on their job application. Though my

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Speaker 15: worst thing is that I worked too hard, like literally,

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Speaker 15: and he can gain twenty pounds, that's not the end

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Speaker 15: of the world. He ran for over two thousand yards

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Speaker 15: the last two seasons and twenty one touchdowns. So even

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Speaker 15: if this guy couldn't throw the ball at all, he

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Speaker 15: is by far the best rusher in the draft, and

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Speaker 15: that is not a debate. By far the best rusher

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Speaker 15: in the draft. He throws a beautiful deep ball. He's

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Speaker 15: gonna have a Zach Wilson like Proda where everyone's like,

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Speaker 15: oh my god, this guy can absolutely hit these sixty

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Speaker 15: yard bombs down the field. He threw seventy two percent

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Speaker 15: completion this year, and he was throwing it deep down

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Speaker 15: the field.

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Speaker 12: He wasn't bow.

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Speaker 15: Nicks in the Oregon offense, who was throwing forty percent

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Speaker 15: screens behind the line of scrimmage. He was throwing it

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Speaker 15: consistently down the field. His completion percentage has gone up

905
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Speaker 15: three straight seasons. His elite pocket presence, He knows exactly

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Speaker 15: when to run, exactly went to hang in there and

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Speaker 15: make a throw.

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Speaker 5: Agent, No, where do you think he's going to go?

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Speaker 5: I'm curious where do you think he's going to go

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Speaker 5: in the draft?

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Speaker 15: Like I think, I think every year there's a quarterback

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Speaker 15: that rises late that people aren't expecting. I think he

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Speaker 15: could go as high as number one. I'm being serious.

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Speaker 15: I think he could go as highest number one. Just

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Speaker 15: look at him at it's eighteen years old, as a

916
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Speaker 15: true freshman at Arizona, seventeen to college and two interceptions.

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Speaker 15: He was electric as an eighteen year old freshman. And

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Speaker 15: if you look at the quarterbacks taken the last five years,

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Speaker 15: brock Perty in twenty twenty two was the last quarterback taken.

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Speaker 15: The only time really was twenty twenty one, where Trevor

921
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Speaker 15: Lawrence was picked first and we got left with Mac

922
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Speaker 15: and Justin Fields and Zak Wilson, where the number one

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Speaker 15: guy actually ended up being the best quarterback. In twenty twenty,

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Speaker 15: Jalen Hurst was the fifth quarterback taken. Justin Herbert was

925
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Speaker 15: the third quarterback take in twenty nineteen, Kyler Murray was

926
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Speaker 15: the first quarterback. Look what he's turned into. In twenty

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Speaker 15: seventeen they took over and Deshaun Watson in twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 15: Dak was the eighth quarterback taken. So I see these

929
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Speaker 15: people on Twitter what I'm saying. I think Jaydon Danis

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Speaker 15: would go first. And that's calling me the idiot, Oh.

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Speaker 3: Idiot.

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Speaker 15: Tyl Williams is the guy.

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Speaker 16: Well you don't know that.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, thanks for the passion, Arthur. No, I'm

935
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Speaker 1: intrigued by him. I've said it a long time ago.

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Speaker 1: I'm intrigued by Jade and Daniels.

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Speaker 5: I'd love to fall in love with one of these quarterbacks.

938
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Speaker 5: And I mean, I'm just starting to dip my toe

939
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Speaker 5: in a little bit here. It's as well, we all

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Speaker 5: know what I do with the jab. But like I mean,

941
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Speaker 5: I just when I talk about these guys, I want

942
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Speaker 5: to come from a place of where I don't want

943
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Speaker 5: to just read what someone else wrote and spit it

944
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Speaker 5: back to somebody, you know, I want to actually But

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Speaker 5: I hope I could develop that kind of passion. I

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Speaker 5: just I mean, I throw it kind of at Evan

947
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Speaker 5: of Is, Jade and Daniels the kind of quarterback that's

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Speaker 5: going to fall in that kind of middle area between

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Speaker 5: the Patriots first two picks where maybe it doesn't quite

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Speaker 5: make sense to take them in second unless unless you

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Speaker 5: love him as much.

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Speaker 1: If you love him, it doesn't matter take him first.

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Speaker 3: You love them, Yeah, you know, but if.

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Speaker 5: There's some questions, you know, is it is it the

955
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Speaker 5: kind of thing where well, we don't we don't really

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Speaker 5: want him at two, but he's going to be gone

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Speaker 5: by thirty three.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but when it comes to quarterback before, if you

959
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Speaker 1: like the guy, where you take him shouldn't matter. Like

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Speaker 1: it's never too soon to take the quarterback you love.

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Speaker 5: But what if you felt like, look, we could put

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Speaker 5: Joe alt at left tackle. He day one started, he's

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Speaker 5: there with Daniels. Oh, it's gonna take some time, it's

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Speaker 5: gonna take we might not even have them the first year.

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Speaker 5: I'm just you know, speculating. I don't know, but like

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Speaker 5: that's the that's where I'm kind of coming from. Then

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Speaker 5: you don't like him, like it's hard to then you

968
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Speaker 5: don't love him, but we think if we but he's

969
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Speaker 5: got all the tools, Fred, if we could just get him,

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Speaker 5: you know, put forty pounds on us, so it is

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Speaker 5: risks thicker.

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Speaker 8: I'm not quite as passionate about it as Arthur is,

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Speaker 8: but I I love Lamar Jackson's my favorite player in

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Speaker 8: the league. I love Lamar Jackson. And I think Jayden

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Speaker 8: Daniels is the closest thing I've seen to Lamar since

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Speaker 8: Lamar at Louisville, Like he is that dynamic. I think

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Speaker 8: that the because Arthur laid out all the positives about

978
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Speaker 8: Jalen Jade and Daniels, I don't really need to go

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Speaker 8: down that road. I think the negatives with his game.

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Speaker 8: The size matters because he's gonna have to take a

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Speaker 8: beating in the NFL. And is he gonna Is he

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Speaker 8: gonna be able to stay healthy? That's that's a factor,

983
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Speaker 8: Like you have to factor that into especially. Yeah, and

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Speaker 8: if he's gonna run as much as he's gonna have

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Speaker 8: to run, because that's his skill set, Like you can't

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Speaker 8: take away his superpower and make him a pocket pass.

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Speaker 7: And if he puts on the weight you want him

988
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Speaker 7: to put on, which one is so much easier said

989
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Speaker 7: than done, is he the same runner?

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Speaker 10: Right?

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Speaker 8: I'm not interested in him putting on any weight because

992
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Speaker 8: I don't want to take away anything from what he's

993
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Speaker 8: good at. So what what Lamar has been able to do,

994
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Speaker 8: and he's gotten hurt, Like, Lamar has not necessarily been

995
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Speaker 8: able to sustain it either. But Lamar is pretty good

996
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Speaker 8: at knowing when the journey is over, right, like and

997
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Speaker 8: knowing like all right, I'm just gonna slide down or

998
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Speaker 8: I'm gonna run out of bounds and I'm gonna avoid

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Speaker 8: the hits. And he's pretty good at that. And and

1000
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Speaker 8: I think that that's something that you're gonna have to

1001
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Speaker 8: develop if you're Jaden Daniels. I think the couple things

1002
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Speaker 8: that one I disagree with him that he knows when

1003
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Speaker 8: to run and he knows when to stay in the pocket.

1004
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Speaker 8: He takes off a little bit too much for my liking.

1005
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Speaker 8: I think that he's gonna have to learn to sit

1006
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Speaker 8: in the pocket a little bit more. And the NFL

1007
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Speaker 8: number two, when he gets to some of these more

1008
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Speaker 8: sophisticated defenses, he's had trouble with post snap processing, like

1009
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Speaker 8: you know, when they changed the picture on him and

1010
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Speaker 8: it starts as single high and then it becomes too high.

1011
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Speaker 8: And that's what NFL defenses do. The NFL defenses aren't stagnant,

1012
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 8: they're constantly moving around, they're constantly disguising. How is he

1013
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 8: going to handle those kinds of things?

1014
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Speaker 1: Are?

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Speaker 8: You know, Florida State got him on that, Alabama got

1016
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Speaker 8: him on that a little bit. So those are some

1017
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Speaker 8: of the things that people are looking at as like

1018
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Speaker 8: quote unquote knocks. But I he's a first round pick

1019
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,439
Speaker 8: in my book, Like he's going to be a first

1020
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Speaker 8: round pick. I think, I think you're crazy if you

1021
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Speaker 8: if you let him fall out of the first round

1022
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Speaker 8: as a league, and the league was crazy that they

1023
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Speaker 8: let Lamar goo Is as late as he did, Like

1024
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Speaker 8: Lamar should have been much higher. And I just look

1025
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Speaker 8: at Jayden Daniels and say, we're that much further along

1026
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Speaker 8: now in terms of value out in QUARTERBA.

1027
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Speaker 1: But think about Lamar was teams were just afraid that,

1028
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Speaker 1: you know, if we're going to get him, we got

1029
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Speaker 1: to change our offense because very few teams had an

1030
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Speaker 1: offense that suit Lamar Jackson. I give Harbaugh a ton

1031
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:06,399
Speaker 1: of credit for doing that. How much would a team

1032
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Speaker 1: like the Patriots or you know, any other most other

1033
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Speaker 1: teams have to change their offense if they picked Daniels.

1034
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Speaker 8: Quite a bit. But I think that you know, just

1035
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Speaker 8: just to play it out with the Patriots. Like, if

1036
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Speaker 8: Bill O'Brien is here next year, how much different does

1037
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Speaker 8: it need to be than the Deshaun Watson offense in

1038
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Speaker 8: Houston right Like, I don't know if it needs to

1039
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Speaker 8: be significantly different in terms of that offense, but that's

1040
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Speaker 8: a lot different than the offense that they're running right now.

1041
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Speaker 8: I just think that there's so when you look at

1042
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Speaker 8: like prospects in general, with quarterbacks, especially, like you want

1043
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 8: to have an elite trade, like you want to have

1044
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 8: something that makes this guy special, and Jading Daniels, no

1045
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 8: doubt about it. His mobility is special, Like that is

1046
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 8: a special trait that he has as a playmaker. And

1047
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Speaker 8: I think the rest of it you could probably figure out,

1048
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Speaker 8: Like I think he's going to be able to figure

1049
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Speaker 8: it out.

1050
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Speaker 1: Why is Caleb Williams can considered better than him?

1051
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Speaker 8: Just like a more natural passer, Like it doesn't look

1052
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Speaker 8: you know, he's throwing motion, his ability to read defenses,

1053
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Speaker 8: his ability to win the pocket. I'm just a little

1054
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Speaker 8: bit more of a natural thrower, probably a little bit

1055
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Speaker 8: more natural arm talent too. But I like Daniels a lot.

1056
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Speaker 8: I do not as much as Arthur.

1057
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Speaker 1: But let's go to Mark in Connecticut. What's up? Mark?

1058
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Speaker 16: Merry Christmas?

1059
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Speaker 12: Everybody?

1060
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Speaker 1: You too?

1061
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Speaker 13: You I have a thought here, all right? If I'm

1062
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Speaker 13: the GM, this is what I'm gonna do. Grod Mayo

1063
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Speaker 13: is going to run the helm. I'm gonna bring in

1064
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Speaker 13: Kirk Cousins as my quarterback. I'm gonna add T Higgins

1065
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Speaker 13: as my wide receiver. I'm gonna draft Marvin Harrison Junior.

1066
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Speaker 13: So now you have two Number one, I'm gonna resign

1067
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Speaker 13: Kendrick Borne. I'm gonna sign Hunter Henry, and I'll draft

1068
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Speaker 13: a tight end or pick up another free agent. I'm

1069
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Speaker 13: gonna draft two tight ends, I mean, I'm sorry, two

1070
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Speaker 13: offensive linemen to sure up the line. Maybe a running

1071
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Speaker 13: back as well.

1072
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Speaker 12: In there?

1073
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Speaker 13: What are you guys' thoughts on?

1074
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Speaker 1: So you're going heavy on offense? Damn the Torpedoes.

1075
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Speaker 8: I don't disagree with the heavy offense approach, like I

1076
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Speaker 8: have no time for Kirk Cousins, but I other than that,

1077
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Speaker 8: like I mean, obviously I think some of that is

1078
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Speaker 8: not going to happen. Simply they're not drafting Marvin Harrison

1079
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Speaker 8: Junior and paying T. Higgins twenty five million dollars a year,

1080
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Speaker 8: Like I just unless they are run by somebody completely

1081
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Speaker 8: different that has nothing to do with Bill Belichick and

1082
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Speaker 8: has never learned a thing from Bill Belichick in his life.

1083
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Speaker 8: They're not going to spend two premium premium assets on receivers.

1084
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Speaker 8: I just don't see that happening.

1085
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but in terms of money, but that's what you

1086
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Speaker 1: need though, Yeah, in terms of money in four years,

1087
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Speaker 1: maybe you don't re sign t Higgins and Marvin Harrison

1088
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Speaker 1: is great and then you just draft another I.

1089
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Speaker 8: Just don't think that. I just don't think that they

1090
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 8: would allocate their resources that way. I think it's too

1091
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 8: much into one.

1092
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 3: I mean, I think you undervalue the offensive line. I

1093
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 3: mean I don't.

1094
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 5: I don't think you just pick up two offensive two

1095
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 5: tackle starters as rookies and you know, I mean we've

1096
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 5: seen Kirk Cousins with Justin Jefferson.

1097
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: I mean, well, they've shored up the offensive line through

1098
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:18,359
Speaker 1: free agency, you know, veteran guys that they bring in,

1099
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: and you know these guys.

1100
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I think these left tackles though, this is

1101
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 5: that I need somebody in place there.

1102
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 3: And I mean I'm not going to make the case

1103
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 3: for Alton and.

1104
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 5: You know, I mean, I don't, you know, generally overall disagree.

1105
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 5: I think those are the kind of moves they have

1106
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 5: to make. I'm with Evan though on kirk Cousins. I'd

1107
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 5: rather go with somebody that like Jacoby Brissett, who we

1108
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 5: know is not going to be the starter. We're not

1109
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 5: going to pay him like the starter. He's keeping the

1110
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 5: seat warm until whatever rookie we have is ready. And

1111
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 5: I don't want to pay kirk Cousins to be average

1112
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 5: kirk Cousins. And I got to pay him, you know,

1113
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,280
Speaker 5: twenty twenty five million, and he's coming off an injury

1114
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 5: and I've already seen him with an elite weapon and

1115
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:53,280
Speaker 5: it was fine.

1116
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 3: You know, It's just there's nothing intriguing about that.

1117
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 5: At best, he maybe gets back to a level he's

1118
00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 5: been at with the Vikings, which is kind of what

1119
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 5: Mac was last year.

1120
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 1: Ka, Right, So he's Are you saying that he's too

1121
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 1: much to pay to be a bridge quarterback because I

1122
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 1: don't think he's going to take you to the promise?

1123
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 3: No?

1124
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,359
Speaker 5: No, yeah, basically yeah, basically, I'd rather just put somebody

1125
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 5: that there's no illusion that we're hoping, like if you

1126
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 5: signed kirk Cousins.

1127
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 3: I think the message is we kind of think he

1128
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 3: could do something for us.

1129
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 5: You know, we're gonna pay him kind of like that,

1130
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:22,320
Speaker 5: and he's kind of the starter. Now I'd love to

1131
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 5: I'd probably And this is assuming you get a first

1132
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 5: round quarterback in some capacity, whether it's that second pick

1133
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 5: or you trade back up into the first round to

1134
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 5: get you know, maybe somebody like Daniels if that kind

1135
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 5: of thing lined up.

1136
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 3: But you know, keep the seat warm. But we're not

1137
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:36,320
Speaker 3: under any illusion.

1138
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: Let's just say that this is the year that Rogers

1139
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,760
Speaker 1: is available. Is this the year that you draft Marvin

1140
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 1: Harrison and bring Aaron Rodgers in and maybe go.

1141
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 3: For it or without Belichick?

1142
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: Well who cares for the head coaches?

1143
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 3: Yeah? I don't know.

1144
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 5: I mean I think that that made have made sense

1145
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 5: last year with like a last hurrah for Bill to

1146
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 5: try to get back on track and try to get

1147
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 5: you know, one last you know.

1148
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 3: Just good season double digit wins.

1149
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,760
Speaker 1: I guess what I'm saying is, is there a scenario

1150
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 1: in which you're taking Harrison and bringing in a quarterback

1151
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: who can win it for you?

1152
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 3: Now?

1153
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 8: Do you think Kyler Murray can win it for you?

1154
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:11,959
Speaker 1: Now?

1155
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 5: I kind of am intrigued by Kyler Murray now I

1156
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,839
Speaker 5: mean in that but at least like this thing. And

1157
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:20,879
Speaker 5: that's fine, Like, and I know you'd have to pay him,

1158
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 5: you know, probably more than even Kirk Cousins, but there's

1159
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 5: just something intriguing and fun about him. That and if

1160
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 5: we're not under the illusion that this is the guy

1161
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 5: that we're going to tell I mean, and that I

1162
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 5: don't know, it's the only one that he has.

1163
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 3: He has some potential, you know.

1164
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 5: I still feel like any's small and it's kind of funny,

1165
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 5: but I just think of like from an entertainment standpoint,

1166
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 5: I would be like, oh, you signed Colin Murray, Like

1167
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:41,399
Speaker 5: I'm interested to camp.

1168
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 3: If we signed Kirk Cousins, I'm like, I could care

1169
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 3: less about watching kirk Cousins in trading came.

1170
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,359
Speaker 7: He's like the ultimate purgatory quarter back.

1171
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 4: I know, it's basically.

1172
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:51,760
Speaker 3: He's that guy right now, Like it's just Kirk Cousins.

1173
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 3: That's we all know what we're talking about.

1174
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 8: That Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I I know this

1175
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 8: is gonna upset some people. I'm like, not really on

1176
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:03,720
Speaker 8: the Marvin Harrison junior train. I just think that you're

1177
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 8: too far away to be drafting the shiny toy, Like, okay,

1178
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 8: so you're gonna draft Marvin Harrison Junior. Second, Overall, he's

1179
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 8: not gonna have a quarterback to throw them the ball.

1180
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 8: He's not gonna have an offensive line to protect the

1181
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 8: quarterback who can't throw him the ball. And he's gonna

1182
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 8: be down the field like Garrett Wilson with his hands

1183
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 8: up in the air like I'm wide open and there's

1184
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 8: not gonna be a football, and so like what where

1185
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 8: does that ultimately? Like, he's an incredibly talented player and

1186
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 8: he's gonna be great in the NFL, I'm sure, but

1187
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 8: I just don't know if right now, I think that

1188
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 8: I still kind of subscribe to the old school thought

1189
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,359
Speaker 8: of like the receiver is the last thing that you do,

1190
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 8: Like you got to build up the line, you got

1191
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 8: to get the quarterback, and when you have it all

1192
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 8: ready to go, that's when you drop in Tyreek Hill.

1193
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 8: That's when you drop in Aj Brown. If you do

1194
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 8: it out of order, then I think you're gonna have

1195
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 8: Garrett Wilson who is just always open but has no

1196
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:54,760
Speaker 8: quarterback to get him the football.

1197
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 5: And I think those things you said point towards the

1198
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:58,720
Speaker 5: argument for taking a left tackle.

1199
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:00,879
Speaker 3: I mean to take you know, for or Joe Walt,

1200
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 3: who are you know too?

1201
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 8: There's a really like people aren't gonna like it. No,

1202
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,399
Speaker 8: but there's a really really good argument for taking one

1203
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 8: of the tackles.

1204
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 5: If you're realistic about where this team is right now,

1205
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 5: is a three win team, the worst team in the AFC,

1206
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 5: that we're not going back to the playoffs next year,

1207
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 5: that we need to build this brick by brick what

1208
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,320
Speaker 5: has been one of the biggest pieces missing.

1209
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 3: And of course we all know the quarterback. But I

1210
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 3: left tackle.

1211
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 1: So even with the second or third pick, let's just

1212
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,359
Speaker 1: say you take that tackle, say you take Joe Wall,

1213
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:30,760
Speaker 1: who do you pick at the top of the second?

1214
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 1: What position do you pick at the top of the second?

1215
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:35,720
Speaker 5: I mean I would I mean I talk about trading

1216
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 5: back up to get the court to get a quarterback.

1217
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 5: I think that would for me, that would be the

1218
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 5: move if And that's why I was kind of trying

1219
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 5: to line things up on Daniels. But I mean, I

1220
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 5: just I don't see how they can get out of

1221
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 5: at least Day two without drafting a quarterback this year.

1222
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 5: I don't I don't. I don't know how they can

1223
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 5: do it. It doesn't necessarily have to be second overall. But

1224
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 5: I mean, and I and again my philosophy, you draft.

1225
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,760
Speaker 3: A quarterback every year. Every year, you should draft a quarterback.

1226
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 5: But I think it's it's it's just hard to see.

1227
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 5: And and again, I'd like to just I'd like to fall

1228
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 5: in love with one of these guys. I'd love to,

1229
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 5: you know, just be like, I know he's got some wortz,

1230
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 5: but this is you know, And I mean the other

1231
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 5: thing that like part of my process is like watching

1232
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 5: interviews with these guys. Watch don't like, I don't just

1233
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 5: like I want to hear them talk. I want to

1234
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 5: hear what kind of people they are, you know. I

1235
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 5: think that tells you a lot. It's almost like a

1236
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 5: job interview.

1237
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 1: If you're okay with taking a tacko in the first round,

1238
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 1: do you draft, do you you know, trade down to

1239
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 1: like maybe six, pick up one of these guys then

1240
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:31,320
Speaker 1: maybe and then come up you know, have an extra pick.

1241
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: I don't need it, I work.

1242
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 5: With I mean, I just think again, Fred like that

1243
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 5: to me is like just this is this is a

1244
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:37,839
Speaker 5: three win football team.

1245
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 3: This is a team that badly needs talent in a

1246
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:41,280
Speaker 3: number of areas.

1247
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 5: And I'm, you know, one hundred percent with Evan on

1248
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,280
Speaker 5: to thinking that we're just gonna plug a wide receiver

1249
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 5: in here. You know, by the time you're ready to

1250
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,800
Speaker 5: actually play with Marveson Marvin Harrison Junior, you're gonna have

1251
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:53,879
Speaker 5: to give him a new contract and pay him through

1252
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 5: the nose for you know, hopefully because he's been good.

1253
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 1: But you know, it's it's I I still will say,

1254
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 1: if there's a quarter back you love, take them, just

1255
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 1: take them. I'm worry about the rest after. Just get

1256
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:05,760
Speaker 1: that position.

1257
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 8: I agree with that, and I still think that as well.

1258
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 8: But I just think that the tackle argument is is

1259
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 8: is there? And if you look across the league at

1260
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 8: the teams that are that are in it, they all

1261
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 8: have good offensive lions, like all of them San Francisco, Philadelphia, Detroit,

1262
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 8: you know, Dallas, like You're nobody has a bad offensive

1263
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 8: line among that group, and those are the teams that

1264
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 8: are all favored, you know, to win the Super Bowl.

1265
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 16: Right.

1266
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 8: So it's just.

1267
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 5: It's like one of those philosophical questions where like if

1268
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 5: you could have I could if you draft to tackle,

1269
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,479
Speaker 5: I guarantee he's gonna be good. But if you draft

1270
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 5: a quarterback, you got a fifty to fifty chance if

1271
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 5: he's gonna actually if he's gonna end up like Mac

1272
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 5: or an actual player. You know, Like I just think

1273
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:43,359
Speaker 5: that they're in a place right now.

1274
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, but then will you do you ever get the court?

1275
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 1: I know, I know, Like if the guy you love

1276
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 1: is right there, you have to take him.

1277
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,359
Speaker 8: So do you think that, like, you know, just to

1278
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,240
Speaker 8: play it out, Like, do you think that the Lions

1279
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 8: have any regrets whatsoever on Penny Seool because I think

1280
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 8: that they are ecstatic that Penny Stools on their football team.

1281
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 8: I know I would be right, and like.

1282
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 3: That's the long term approach. When they took they.

1283
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,240
Speaker 8: Took it and they built They drafted him, they drafted

1284
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 8: a bunch of those guys on their offensive line, and

1285
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 8: they built it like they slowly built up their team.

1286
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 1: And now, but is Jared gott If Jared Goff's the

1287
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 1: reason where they ultimately lose in the playoffs every year,

1288
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 1: then maybe they do regret it, but.

1289
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 8: You like how the team isn't But I don't think

1290
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 8: they regret like they might regret like not having a

1291
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 8: better quarterback than Jared. But that doesn't guarantee.

1292
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 1: Escially when they had the chance to get one.

1293
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 8: Maybe I don't know, but I just look at that

1294
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 8: guy moved the right side off.

1295
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 5: But but but it's such a favorable circumstance. So if

1296
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,839
Speaker 5: they say this year, like again, draft a quarterback every year,

1297
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 5: maybe you get another guy and he starts to put

1298
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:44,319
Speaker 5: but you've got you know, you got to the point

1299
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 5: where you could select Jamison Williams when you knew he

1300
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:47,760
Speaker 5: wasn't even gonna play.

1301
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 3: For a year because you're you're big in the long approach.

1302
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 5: You're not taking the oh god, we got to get

1303
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 5: the receiptingly a number one right now.

1304
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 3: And and you know, like that's gonna the answer.

1305
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 5: It's I think that they're unfortunately gonna have to be

1306
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 5: more methodical about rebuilding.

1307
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 1: Well that's gonna be you know, if that's the way

1308
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: they want to do it, that's gonna have to be

1309
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 1: a cell job by whoever takes over this team to

1310
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 1: tell the fans you're gonna need to be patient. We're

1311
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 1: building for the long.

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Speaker 7: We saw this season like what it looks like when

1313
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:17,359
Speaker 7: you put a quarterback in a really bad situation with coaching, Well,

1314
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 7: that's right, I know all of it. So it's like,

1315
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 7: are you going to take a quarterback that's not really

1316
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 7: in a great position to succeed anyways and then maybe

1317
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 7: waste his development?

1318
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:25,399
Speaker 4: Who knows?

1319
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,839
Speaker 3: Like what is he walking into next year? I mean,

1320
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 3: and you know the Trent Brown comments like yesterday.

1321
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 5: Like he's got to go, He's got to go, like

1322
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 5: you know, he just this is what you can't have,

1323
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 5: Like people are not on board with this program. They're here,

1324
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 5: they're talking on the media. Now it's getting worse, and like,

1325
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 5: you know, it's just I respect. I mean, I know

1326
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 5: Paul you know, never really thinks Trump Brown's good, but

1327
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:48,799
Speaker 5: like you know, when he plays, he's good. But we

1328
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:50,319
Speaker 5: just we got to get off that roller coaster. We

1329
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 5: gotta find he's good, solid, solid, reliable tackle in a

1330
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 5: perfect world. It's like Trent Williams, who is you know,

1331
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 5: setting the tone like everyone's terrified of our left tackle.

1332
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 3: Like what's it like to go on.

1333
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 8: A game like that about an argument to take Joeell,

1334
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 8: you know, best player.

1335
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:05,799
Speaker 3: Whereas we go into a.

1336
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 5: Game where we're like we don't know if he's gonna

1337
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 5: A be healthy or b even if he plays, we're

1338
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 5: not sure today if he's gonna be engaged or you know,

1339
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 5: it's just gonna be a good game from him, is

1340
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 5: it not? You know, it's They've tried long enough to

1341
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 5: put the right butt, push the right buttons, and to

1342
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 5: give him the right money to get that performance out

1343
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 5: of them.

1344
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 17: But I'm at the point now where like obviously the

1345
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 17: last three games of this season, when losses like don't

1346
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 17: necessarily matter, in fact, they probably rooted them to lose,

1347
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 17: Like I'd rather than play Viderian Low at left tackle

1348
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 17: and shut Trent Brown down.

1349
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 8: I don't want Trent Brown playing another snap for this

1350
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 8: football team. Like get like that guy yesterday is ridiculous,

1351
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 8: Like it's ridiculous, Like a couple of weeks ago, you

1352
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 8: say that you're the best offensive player on the team,

1353
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,839
Speaker 8: which like may be true, Okay, like when you care,

1354
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 8: but then you don't even care to go on the

1355
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 8: trip to Germany. You stay home from Germany. Now all

1356
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 8: of a sudden, you got sixteen injuries on the listed

1357
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 8: on the injury report because you need a multiple excuses

1358
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 8: not to show up to work and play. And then

1359
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 8: you don't play, and then you go and you sound

1360
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:09,319
Speaker 8: off about it. A practice squad quarterback who may or

1361
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 8: may not even play a down in the NFL as

1362
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 8: a start ever and now and we're supposed to like

1363
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 8: have your back like you're you're one of our guys.

1364
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 1: And the thing is they've had his back. Yeah, you know, they've.

1365
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 3: Given him more chances saying what's it gonna be?

1366
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 1: Like he frustrates me because I'm like, Paul, I do

1367
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 1: think he's good.

1368
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 8: That's where I'm coming.

1369
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 5: Awful, you can get that out of him, Like, I

1370
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:36,359
Speaker 5: guess that's the only person they I'm sure.

1371
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:39,839
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's where I'm coming from with somebody that has

1372
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,359
Speaker 8: defended his tape and said that like when he's out

1373
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 8: there and he's locked in. He has played good football

1374
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 8: this year for them earlier this year, but his attitude

1375
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 8: is part of the problem with the bigger picture of

1376
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 8: the team.

1377
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:53,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, Patty's inn agawam, what's up? Patty?

1378
00:56:55,440 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 18: Hey, good afternoon, every one, good after Ready that time

1379
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 18: of year. I just want to say, not to get like,

1380
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 18: not not to get hit on the fields or anything,

1381
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 18: but I gotta you know how I feel about you.

1382
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 18: You're the king of all Patriots media, and I just

1383
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 18: got to say before I get to my point that

1384
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 18: I think this iteration of the Flagship show is far

1385
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 18: and away.

1386
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 3: The best.

1387
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 1: Without Paul.

1388
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 18: Yeah, exactly now, but you know it's great that Paul

1389
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 18: Paul is still around. Love the love it when you

1390
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 18: guys get into it still, Mike Evan, Alex Tamara, all

1391
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 18: the additions you made it. I mean, you guys, you're

1392
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 18: a powerhouse and.

1393
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 13: I love you.

1394
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 1: Robert Craft at one Patriot Place.

1395
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 18: Hey, I advocate for you, all right, pump up your pay,

1396
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 18: but I just I want to make a police all

1397
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 18: Patriots fans too, that may attend the last game of

1398
00:57:56,640 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 18: the season against the Debts. It's it's it's pretty much,

1399
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:05,439
Speaker 18: in my opinion, foregone conclusion. Belichick's gone if it's made

1400
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 18: known to the public at that time. Regardless of what happens,

1401
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 18: I hope the fans are classy enough to show him

1402
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 18: the respect that that he's earned over the last one

1403
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 18: four years, regardless of whether they win like thirteen to ten,

1404
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 18: or if they get blown out somehow, that they that

1405
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 18: they showed their respect. Give him the standing ovation and

1406
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 18: that's all I got. Guys. Merry Christmas, Happy hot I got,

1407
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 18: Happy Holidays, Happy New Year.

1408
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 1: Let's go bab Thanks Patty, I think regardless of whether

1409
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 1: it's made known, I think people will assume and they

1410
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 1: will give him a good send up.

1411
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 3: Kind of like the Titans game a little bit there

1412
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 3: with Brady.

1413
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 8: I hope so too, though to Patty's point, like, I

1414
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 8: do hope that because there are going to be some

1415
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 8: of those a holes, you know, that that will want

1416
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 8: to boo because of the state of the team currently.

1417
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 8: But like we got to see the bigger pictures.

1418
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 5: Yeah right, I thank him so the question I would

1419
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:54,919
Speaker 5: never ask Bill, but this has really been on my mind,

1420
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 5: and you guys will laugh at me, and it's totally fine.

1421
00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 5: I am the I am the Bill Belichick rope guy.

1422
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 5: But honestly, like I'm not gonna lie like it. It's

1423
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 5: in my brain of like why this year and every

1424
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 5: press conference is he's suddenly in a button down shirt,

1425
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 5: Like I mean for twenty however.

1426
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 3: Many years he was always just in a crummy.

1427
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 5: Sweatshirt or whatever he happened to be wearing, Patriots, you know, windbreaker,

1428
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 5: Polo whatever.

1429
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 3: Now I won't say Polo, he's not named Polo.

1430
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 5: But like this year, every time, every time, every press conference,

1431
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 5: he's in a button down shirt.

1432
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 3: He's dressed dice.

1433
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 7: Like, but yeah, still in like flip flops, well so

1434
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 7: more often than not, So it's not like he's going

1435
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 7: all the way with it.

1436
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 8: The flipping is wild to me, like toes out like

1437
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 8: come on a.

1438
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 3: Good notion, but I don't know.

1439
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 5: I mean it's like one of those things where like

1440
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 5: we should have known all along, like he just he

1441
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 5: knew this was his last year and he's dressing.

1442
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 3: Up and he wanted like, I just I don't get it.

1443
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 3: Like we talked about what it's like.

1444
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 1: Bill doesn't change.

1445
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 3: He's set in his ways, and I'm like, but he

1446
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 3: really did this year like he would have gone up there.

1447
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 5: I mean it's infamous of like the crappy sweatshirts he'd

1448
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 5: be wearing, and like all of a sudden, he's just

1449
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 5: this year, he's dressed up every single time, button down shirt,

1450
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:57,959
Speaker 5: rolled up sleeves every time.

1451
00:59:58,040 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 1: So great.

1452
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 3: I know I'm the only person who cares. And I

1453
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 3: did say in the meeting.

1454
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 5: I was like, just like if Bill leaves, like, let's

1455
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 5: just make sure we get those hoodies now.

1456
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1457
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 8: We were talking about this a little bit on Catch

1458
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 8: twenty two, because you know, in twenty nineteen, I was

1459
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 8: a young buck. I was in my second year on

1460
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 8: the beat. I didn't know what I was doing right

1461
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 8: and uh not that I know what I'm doing now

1462
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 8: and uh and I was naive, like I said, like timely,

1463
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 8: I still believe in Santa Claus. Like I thought there

1464
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 8: was no way that Tom Brady was ever going to

1465
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 8: play for a different team. And we went for that

1466
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 8: entire season, and I ignored all these warning signs that

1467
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 8: he was that this was his last year. And I remember,

1468
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 8: you know, looking back on it, once he did sign

1469
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 8: with Tampa. Him at the press conference after the loss

1470
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 8: to the Titans. That was the first locker room of

1471
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 8: a playoff loss I had been in because the year

1472
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 8: before they won the Super Bowl, and he was like

1473
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 8: relieved and like a little bit like he was smiling

1474
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 8: and like was like happy, and I was like, this

1475
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:55,959
Speaker 8: is not the like Tom Brady after a playoff loss

1476
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 8: used to be like you just like killed his kid, right,

1477
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 8: like this is what's going on? And you know, looking

1478
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 8: back on it, he was probably was relieved, like finally

1479
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 8: it's it's it's over, Like I, you know, I can

1480
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 8: move on or whatever. So I agree with you that

1481
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 8: I'm trying to like antennas are up more now for

1482
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 8: little things about Bill's behavior and his answers in the

1483
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 8: way he handles himself, that maybe there are signs that

1484
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 8: it's over.

1485
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 3: There's so much other stuff that this note not changed

1486
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 3: at all, like and a lot of these press conferences,

1487
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 3: this same same bill, like the same you know Wednesday, President,

1488
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 3: you wouldn't know it goes, I have no idea. And

1489
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 3: then I mean he's always happy on Friday too, like

1490
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 3: except for jet suite.

1491
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 1: All right, we'll take a break. Now. When we come back,

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01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 1: more calls and emails, we'll do the picks. We got

1493
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:38,480
Speaker 1: a hurry, so we'll talk to you after this.

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Speaker 20: not so I being sad Am I able to say

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Speaker 20: that was say that that being said, I've never seen

1520
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 20: the Christmas movies. For me, it's just die Hard, which

1521
01:02:58,320 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 20: I heard is like very controversial.

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01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 4: So you've never seen watch them just.

1523
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 3: I've never seen.

1524
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 20: Never seen them start to finish, never seen Home Alone.

1525
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 2: Start to finish like Santa Claus.

1526
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 20: Seen that one.

1527
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 3: Okay, like, what are your favorites?

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01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 7: So I just rewatched ELF recently and that it holds

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01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 7: up so well.

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01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 4: I was cracking up. I have always loved Elf. It's

1531
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:24,720
Speaker 4: also just okay.

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01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 7: So there's a part in Elf which matist doesn't know,

1533
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 7: but probably I might have seen a clips. Will Ferrell's

1534
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 7: character walks into his dad's office and his dad his

1535
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 7: dad's employees are talking amongst each other, and his father

1536
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:40,919
Speaker 7: says like, Hi, Francisco, how are you? And then Will

1537
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 7: Ferrell's character goes Francisco. That's fun to say. So if

1538
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 7: you remember back when ABC Family would do the twenty

1539
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 7: five Nights of Christmas, I always knew when ELF was

1540
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:55,960
Speaker 7: on because probably like forty five minutes past eight o'clock

1541
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 7: PM when those movies always started, I would start getting

1542
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:01,120
Speaker 7: texts from just random people.

1543
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 4: In my life.

1544
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 7: Never like super super close friends because by that point

1545
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 7: the joke is old for them, but just casual acquaintances,

1546
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 7: new friends.

1547
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 4: I would just get a tax Francisco. That's fun to say.

1548
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 4: And I don't know. I've always I.

1549
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 2: Think Elf is like I think Elf is just it's

1550
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 2: a relatively newer one, and by newer, I mean like

1551
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 2: early two thousands.

1552
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 4: It's such a favorite.

1553
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:31,240
Speaker 2: Like I was just gonna say, I think Elf has

1554
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 2: has some of those scenes that, regardless of how many

1555
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 2: times you watch them, they're still funny. And I keep

1556
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 2: going back to when he gets hit by the taxi.

1557
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 2: It makes me laugh every single time I see it,

1558
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 2: like it's it's hysterical to me. But I think other

1559
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 2: than Elf, I really like the Santa Claus with.

1560
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 14: With Tim Allan. Tim Allan, you know that's a classic.

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01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 20: So one of the few I have seen it was

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01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 20: Fred Klaus.

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01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 4: Have you seen that one?

1564
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:01,600
Speaker 20: I like that one? But so all right, So, as

1565
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 20: I said earlier, what are your thoughts on die Hard?

1566
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 20: Is that a Christmas movie?

1567
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:06,960
Speaker 7: I think I think it's Oh my god, I've never

1568
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 7: seen die Jaws.

1569
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:09,600
Speaker 1: You haven't seen die Hard?

1570
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:11,640
Speaker 14: No, it is a Christmas movie for sure.

1571
01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 3: Okay, how is it not?

1572
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:13,120
Speaker 14: You know?

1573
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 20: Alex is actually re released in theaters for the holidays.

1574
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:17,439
Speaker 20: You should go to AMC and check it out.

1575
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:22,240
Speaker 7: I watched a Christmas movie kind of in the last

1576
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 7: couple of years. So it's newer and it's animated, so

1577
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 7: it's for kids. But it's one of those animated movies

1578
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 7: that are also for adults. I think adults would really like.

1579
01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:32,880
Speaker 14: It, like it like Slips adults.

1580
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 4: It's called Claws on Net.

1581
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 7: I think it was hopefully still on Netflix, but I

1582
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 7: watched it a couple of years ago, like as an

1583
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 7: adult woman, I have no children.

1584
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:44,920
Speaker 4: I wasn't with a knee or nephew or anything.

1585
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 2: So wait, Mattisa, you've never even seen like like the

1586
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 2: Little Clay animation ones, like.

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01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 20: Specials seen like clips of its yea, the one I

1588
01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 20: need to watch start to finish.

1589
01:05:57,920 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 4: It's okay, you've been a minute.

1590
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 3: I saw, I saw. Have to watch them.

1591
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:06,240
Speaker 20: You guys have pu halftime show homework is you have

1592
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 20: to watch die Hard. I have to watch like Home Alone.

1593
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:08,800
Speaker 1: Or something like that.

1594
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:10,680
Speaker 14: I'm probably gonna watch the specials.

1595
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 20: Yeah I don't like CBS or something.

1596
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 14: Yeah, they're They're usually on ABC Family.

1597
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:16,920
Speaker 4: I have them all on VHS if you want to

1598
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 4: borrow them.

1599
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:19,440
Speaker 1: I got to dust off the VHS machine.

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01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:22,320
Speaker 4: I don't know if I have one anymore, but I

1601
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:24,160
Speaker 4: have the VHS is still see.

1602
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:27,760
Speaker 20: I used to love like like the rug Rats specials

1603
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:29,840
Speaker 20: or like you know, like the shows growing up, like

1604
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 20: just like the Quick.

1605
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 4: Sponge Rats also holds up so well.

1606
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, Rugrats and Pairs.

1607
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, hell yeah, goat movie. Yeah it really is,

1608
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:42,240
Speaker 4: it really is. I watched that in adulthood too a

1609
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:43,720
Speaker 4: couple of years ago. It was great.

1610
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 20: But all right, so guys, what what one more thing

1611
01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 20: before we sign off? Give me your Christmas traditions? If

1612
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:51,440
Speaker 20: you guys have an like, what's the thing you and

1613
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 20: your family does all the time?

1614
01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 14: Alex and I might have the same ones because similar.

1615
01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:58,680
Speaker 1: Background, Go for it.

1616
01:06:58,680 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 3: I want you to love to have.

1617
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:04,080
Speaker 7: Christmas Eve is our big night with family, so as

1618
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 7: long as I can remember, it's going to an aunt

1619
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 7: or a grandma's house, or staying home with my parents cooking.

1620
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 4: But the big tradition is like the seven fish dishes,

1621
01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:18,160
Speaker 4: seven different dishes, all a fish dish. And yeah, I've

1622
01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:19,040
Speaker 4: learned the Italians.

1623
01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:20,240
Speaker 1: Yeah we do the.

1624
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:20,960
Speaker 14: Exact same thing.

1625
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:24,480
Speaker 2: Got it before midnight Mass at midnight.

1626
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:29,160
Speaker 20: See I'm Jewish, but I love Christmas. It's like the

1627
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:32,000
Speaker 20: coziest Holliday ever. And my thing is my mom and

1628
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:34,200
Speaker 20: I always just order so much Chinese food.

1629
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:35,920
Speaker 1: I to go to thing.

1630
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:39,520
Speaker 20: That's that's the the Balman family tradition. Just order as

1631
01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:40,280
Speaker 20: much Chinese food.

1632
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:41,320
Speaker 4: What do you do on New Year's Eve?

1633
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:42,440
Speaker 11: Now?

1634
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 1: I just stay in and watch TV.

1635
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:48,960
Speaker 4: I associated with New Year's I'm.

1636
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 3: Out on New Year's As I've gotten older, I'm out

1637
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 3: on it.

1638
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:52,600
Speaker 1: I've done it recovered.

1639
01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 7: I don't.

1640
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:56,400
Speaker 4: I like to hang out casually with friends, house.

1641
01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 2: Generous something from people weeks ago, like like house party, holidays, Halloween.

1642
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 7: I think the one reason I could get out of

1643
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:12,480
Speaker 7: my house for New Year's even get like dressed up

1644
01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:13,600
Speaker 7: to go out is for a wedding.

1645
01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 4: A New Year's Eve wedding is fun.

1646
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:16,360
Speaker 1: I didn't even know those existed.

1647
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:20,320
Speaker 4: I think it's the only acceptable holiday to have a wedding.

1648
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:21,920
Speaker 1: No Fourth of July.

1649
01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:24,240
Speaker 4: Fourth of July, because so many.

1650
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:27,880
Speaker 7: People have family traditions for the July and they go away,

1651
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:29,719
Speaker 7: Like I'd be devastated to miss.

1652
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:32,280
Speaker 4: A year of my Fourth of July plans with my family.

1653
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:35,760
Speaker 4: But New Year's Eve it's kind of overrated to begin with.

1654
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 7: And if you can't take a year off of partying

1655
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 7: with your friends to go to a wedding, you got

1656
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:45,280
Speaker 7: to read that you probably should well.

1657
01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 2: And I think everybody thinks that going out for New

1658
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:49,680
Speaker 2: Year's Eve is actually better than when you get out

1659
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:51,719
Speaker 2: and you realize how terrible it is, like the bars

1660
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:53,360
Speaker 2: are crowded, everything's expensive.

1661
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:57,920
Speaker 20: Like, all right, guys, thank you for joining listeners. Send

1662
01:08:57,920 --> 01:08:59,760
Speaker 20: your answers to the web rate at patriots dot com.

1663
01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:01,680
Speaker 20: And guys, I think we're keeping this going in the

1664
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:03,680
Speaker 20: off season. So if you have any topics you want me.

1665
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 1: To discussing it off the rails.

1666
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:06,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're going crazy with it.

1667
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:07,600
Speaker 1: So guys, thank you.

1668
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 3: Let's get back to the show.

1669
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:15,280
Speaker 21: When someone accidentally threw away the school play costumes, no

1670
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:19,240
Speaker 21: replacements were shipped with FedEx and with picture proof of delivery,

1671
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:23,160
Speaker 21: everyone could focus on the perfect opening night FedEx. Where

1672
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:27,519
Speaker 21: now it's next for residential delivery only Yes, uh.

1673
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 5: Your performance, you know the performance like sexual excuse me,

1674
01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:34,559
Speaker 5: willy are you saying or something wrong with my gear?

1675
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 1: So what you're saying to me, I'm sorry your gear?

1676
01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:38,960
Speaker 1: WILLI mystick?

1677
01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:41,559
Speaker 3: He's not going to say that little stick in front

1678
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:42,759
Speaker 3: of the children to see.

1679
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:44,240
Speaker 4: Hey, our friend that we were just talking about before

1680
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:44,720
Speaker 4: it went on there.

1681
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:47,840
Speaker 19: Marcopello already posted on Instagram, get the tree down, it's over,

1682
01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:49,280
Speaker 19: take the lights off, turn.

1683
01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:56,040
Speaker 1: Me gravy and grave about you whatever you want you

1684
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:58,439
Speaker 1: I want to thank you all for doing shows Tuesday

1685
01:09:58,439 --> 01:10:01,680
Speaker 1: and today. Most podcasts are putting out nothing or or

1686
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 1: best of shows. The radio was putting their Sea team

1687
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:08,320
Speaker 1: out there. No offense, Paul as someone who has to

1688
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:10,600
Speaker 1: work tomorrow. I don't want to look them straight in

1689
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:10,960
Speaker 1: the eye.

1690
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 10: I don't want to tell them what a sheep lying,

1691
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:16,800
Speaker 10: no good, rotten for flushing, low life, snake locking, dirt

1692
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:22,120
Speaker 10: eating and bread over stuffed, ignorant, blood sucking, dog kissing, brainless,

1693
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:24,759
Speaker 10: this hopeless, heartless, fat.

1694
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:28,439
Speaker 1: Ass bug eye stiff leg. It's fine, warm headed sack

1695
01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:32,320
Speaker 1: of bucky he is. I know, yah, I'm just tuned

1696
01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:35,799
Speaker 1: in live for the first time ever. Oh who excellent.

1697
01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:40,040
Speaker 1: A lot of people at home Christmas, you know, sitting

1698
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 1: by the Yule tide and uh listening to.

1699
01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:47,160
Speaker 3: Hugh sitting by the yule log, sitting by the Yule tide.

1700
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:50,080
Speaker 1: Some people are by the ocean.

1701
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:54,120
Speaker 3: Oh okay, not the river, though no river wouldn't have

1702
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:54,719
Speaker 3: a Yule tide.

1703
01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:58,879
Speaker 1: Correct to everyone out there listening, have a merry Christmas.

1704
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:08,280
Speaker 1: That's what you celebrate. Merry Christmas. All right back here

1705
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 1: on Patriots On filtered eight, five five past five hundred

1706
01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:14,840
Speaker 1: is the ace ticket hotline web radio at Patriots dot com.

1707
01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:19,880
Speaker 1: It's the email address Deuce Evan, Alex Fred Booth. No

1708
01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:23,800
Speaker 1: Paul today, Mattison. Paul's on a competing station.

1709
01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:25,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's going up against him.

1710
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:26,720
Speaker 4: Should we call him?

1711
01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 1: That wouldn't be a bad Roger from Foxborough. Yeah, I

1712
01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:36,160
Speaker 1: just don't want to be put on hold. That's the problem. Parrello. Yeah, yeah, Parrello,

1713
01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:37,799
Speaker 1: you don't know nothing about football.

1714
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:39,639
Speaker 4: We all take a turn'd be kind of funny.

1715
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:43,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, he'd figure it out. He's too swart, it's too wiley.

1716
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:46,120
Speaker 1: Although Andy Hart got him good.

1717
01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:46,479
Speaker 3: I know.

1718
01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:49,040
Speaker 5: I can't believe that. I mean Andy too, because Andy's

1719
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:49,919
Speaker 5: voice so distinctive.

1720
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:51,600
Speaker 3: But yeah, Roger and Foxborough.

1721
01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:55,360
Speaker 1: Uh Burton Burton Island writes, and he says, you guys

1722
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:57,840
Speaker 1: should seriously consider doing a version of the Good, the Bad,

1723
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:00,679
Speaker 1: and the Injured on your Tuesday show. There's a great

1724
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:03,599
Speaker 1: wrap by NASCAR halftime, the beat of which they should

1725
01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:06,639
Speaker 1: use for the show within a show, and finally, next show,

1726
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:09,679
Speaker 1: next host of the pre and postgame show. The answer

1727
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:12,840
Speaker 1: is obvious. Evan Lazar. Evan has just left.

1728
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:14,360
Speaker 3: Oh man, I don't think Evan would like that.

1729
01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:19,519
Speaker 5: Evan's got things to do, and like me and Paul

1730
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:21,840
Speaker 5: are always like rushing up after the pregame show, like

1731
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:25,000
Speaker 5: grab a little food, and Evan's like got everything set

1732
01:12:25,080 --> 01:12:27,320
Speaker 5: up and he's been up there, like, you know, tweeting

1733
01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:30,360
Speaker 5: and looking through his binoculars and establishing the scene and

1734
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:31,679
Speaker 5: know we're like coming in hot.

1735
01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:33,800
Speaker 3: I don't think he would. I don't think he would

1736
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 3: enjoy that.

1737
01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:38,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go to AJ in the Bay Area on

1738
01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:40,840
Speaker 1: the Ace ticket houtline. What's up AJ?

1739
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:47,160
Speaker 22: Hey, guys, I just tuned in, so I'm not sure

1740
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:50,600
Speaker 22: what you talked about earlier, but I've just been on

1741
01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:53,360
Speaker 22: social media a little bit looking at what people are saying,

1742
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:56,760
Speaker 22: because obviously we'll probably get a top three pick in

1743
01:12:56,800 --> 01:13:00,680
Speaker 22: the draft hopefully. Yeah, And I'm it's a shock at

1744
01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:03,559
Speaker 22: the number of people that seems to think the best

1745
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:06,599
Speaker 22: idea is not to go with the quarterback. I don't

1746
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:10,479
Speaker 22: know what you guys are noticing out there, but you

1747
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:13,200
Speaker 22: know some people are saying, if you put him behind

1748
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:16,040
Speaker 22: a bad offensive line and he doesn't have any weapons

1749
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:19,000
Speaker 22: around him, then what's the point. Let's just, you know,

1750
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:21,680
Speaker 22: build up the roster around him and then get the

1751
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:26,120
Speaker 22: guy later. But I don't know when people think they're

1752
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:28,519
Speaker 22: going to have as good as an opportunity as a

1753
01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:32,720
Speaker 22: top three pick to get that franchise altering quarterback that

1754
01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:35,960
Speaker 22: they obviously need, and why not apply the logic the

1755
01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:37,920
Speaker 22: other way, Like, it's not like this.

1756
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:39,559
Speaker 16: You know, number three.

1757
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:42,320
Speaker 22: Pick is the only asset they have going into next year.

1758
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:44,920
Speaker 22: So I'll take it off the air.

1759
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 13: You guys, tell me what.

1760
01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:47,479
Speaker 20: You think about that.

1761
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:52,479
Speaker 1: I mean, that's it's so critical that the Patriots get

1762
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:56,320
Speaker 1: their front office in order once the season starts, because

1763
01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:59,040
Speaker 1: someone's going to have to make that decision. You know,

1764
01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:02,519
Speaker 1: some Scout voting staff has got to be making the

1765
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:05,479
Speaker 1: decision that one of these guys is worth taking that high.

1766
01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:09,920
Speaker 1: Is it the current one? I don't know. If it's

1767
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:12,160
Speaker 1: a totally new one, then they've got to get them

1768
01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:16,960
Speaker 1: in place really fast, because these are critical decisions that

1769
01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:19,320
Speaker 1: have to be made. You know, if.

1770
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:22,320
Speaker 3: I mean it's a blessing or a curse, you don't

1771
01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:22,600
Speaker 3: really know.

1772
01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 5: I mean, it's it's the one year you get a

1773
01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:26,880
Speaker 5: top five pick and you know, here are the quarterbacks,

1774
01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:30,439
Speaker 5: and you know, congratulations, they just took Kayleb Williams at one,

1775
01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 5: and your two and you and you know, and I mean,

1776
01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 5: I totally get the point.

1777
01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:34,000
Speaker 3: I think we all do.

1778
01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:36,519
Speaker 5: If if you know, there's plenty if you miss on

1779
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:39,040
Speaker 5: a quarterback at two overall, you miss on a quarterback

1780
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:41,240
Speaker 5: at two overall. But you know, it's just I was

1781
01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:43,720
Speaker 5: kind of going back to the old school, you know,

1782
01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:44,960
Speaker 5: Peyton Manning Ryan Leaf thing.

1783
01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:48,000
Speaker 3: You know what if you were the second overall.

1784
01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:49,599
Speaker 5: Pick in that draft and you're like, we love Peyton Manning,

1785
01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:51,519
Speaker 5: we hate Ryan Leaf. We think Ryan Leaf is going

1786
01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:53,120
Speaker 5: to be a bust, and you know, we just don't

1787
01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:55,559
Speaker 5: believe in them. And then the Indy takes the call

1788
01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 5: and he takes Manning and like, you know so, and

1789
01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:00,240
Speaker 5: it's like, on one hand, your second overall, this is

1790
01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:03,760
Speaker 5: the consensus second overall guy. Everyone is saying that's who

1791
01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:05,520
Speaker 5: he is, and so you almost.

1792
01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:08,320
Speaker 3: Feel obligated to take them. But if you really truly believe.

1793
01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:10,200
Speaker 1: That, you've got to trust your scouts. Yeah, and if

1794
01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:10,720
Speaker 1: you got to, I.

1795
01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:14,439
Speaker 5: Mean it takes huge, you know, confidence and balls to say, look,

1796
01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:16,479
Speaker 5: everyone says we should take Ryan Leaf right here, but

1797
01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:18,920
Speaker 5: you know, knowing what, you know, we're not going to.

1798
01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:20,479
Speaker 3: We're gonna trade down or that's.

1799
01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:24,559
Speaker 1: That's where owners screw up is they look at the marketing,

1800
01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:27,200
Speaker 1: they look at the public opinion, and they say, we

1801
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:31,600
Speaker 1: got to take Ryan Leaf, you know, and that's that

1802
01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:35,679
Speaker 1: rights their their downfall right there. You've got to that's

1803
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:38,960
Speaker 1: you pay these guys to scout and give you their opinion.

1804
01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:39,960
Speaker 1: You have to trust them.

1805
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:42,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, if you're first overall, it's you know, great,

1806
01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:45,240
Speaker 5: but you just, I mean, we go through you know,

1807
01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:48,240
Speaker 5: the twenty twenty one quarterbacks where i mean.

1808
01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 3: Look at look back now.

1809
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:51,760
Speaker 5: If you look back now, which you knew, like Trey Lay,

1810
01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:53,600
Speaker 5: it's i mean just the fields probably still would have

1811
01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:55,760
Speaker 5: gone very, very high. But you know, it's just it's

1812
01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:58,680
Speaker 5: it's it's such a hard business to project, and you

1813
01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:00,479
Speaker 5: don't know when you're gonna get this tough pick, and

1814
01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:02,799
Speaker 5: you know something, you're just kind of crossing your fingers

1815
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:05,280
Speaker 5: and hoping that this is the one year that the

1816
01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:08,280
Speaker 5: second best quarterback is going to be actually really good too,

1817
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:10,240
Speaker 5: and not you know, one of these years where it's

1818
01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:12,559
Speaker 5: Trevor Lawrence and the also rans right.

1819
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 1: Jeff and Brooklyn. Speaking of Jaden Daniels in an interview,

1820
01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:21,120
Speaker 1: he took time out to point that his coach loves him.

1821
01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:24,000
Speaker 1: He felt that and genuinely pointed out that the emotion

1822
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:26,320
Speaker 1: made all the difference in the world in its success.

1823
01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:30,080
Speaker 1: So there's your modern athlete and coach relationship. I think

1824
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:32,439
Speaker 1: this is the void in Bill's game. He doesn't trust

1825
01:16:32,479 --> 01:16:35,760
Speaker 1: his players to play. They're just tools to him. I

1826
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:38,479
Speaker 1: don't know about that. I don't think that's true at all. No,

1827
01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:43,360
Speaker 1: I think it's kind of the opposite. He tries to

1828
01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:46,280
Speaker 1: pick guys that he does trust and that want to

1829
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:49,960
Speaker 1: be coached, and that he wants to coach, and you know,

1830
01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:54,000
Speaker 1: so I don't believe that at all. Thanks for reading

1831
01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:56,920
Speaker 1: my emails, and yes, from yesterday, mutinous is fair. When

1832
01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:59,559
Speaker 1: Bill throws a fit, drafts stubbornly in order to prove

1833
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:02,799
Speaker 1: a point about how great he is, and publicly chides

1834
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:05,479
Speaker 1: his boss, it's just him acting out. But call it

1835
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:09,000
Speaker 1: what you will. All right, Well, I think we said

1836
01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 1: that his use of the word muteness was a little

1837
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:12,080
Speaker 1: strong yesterday.

1838
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:14,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, I mean, I don't know.

1839
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:16,760
Speaker 5: I just I still balk at people who say that

1840
01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:19,960
Speaker 5: Bill is purposely making decisions to be to like spite

1841
01:17:20,040 --> 01:17:22,680
Speaker 5: people like I still think that he's making decisions that

1842
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:25,080
Speaker 5: he thinks is going to make win football games. And

1843
01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:28,000
Speaker 5: they can be wrong, and certainly he's missed. But I

1844
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:30,640
Speaker 5: just don't really buy the whole soap opera narrative of

1845
01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:34,000
Speaker 5: he's got this whole like you know, black Book.

1846
01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:37,120
Speaker 1: Of I think that's I think this guy. I think

1847
01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:39,680
Speaker 1: he reads our roundup, and whatever I say he should do,

1848
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:40,679
Speaker 1: he does the opposite.

1849
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:42,720
Speaker 3: Right. Well, I mean, who knows that might work.

1850
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:46,720
Speaker 1: But Nick and Connecticut Evan brought up Kyler Murray last show,

1851
01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:49,519
Speaker 1: and it gave me an idea for a hypothetical offseason move.

1852
01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:51,800
Speaker 1: I'm interested in what you all would do if the

1853
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:54,479
Speaker 1: teams stay where they currently are in the draft. Stand

1854
01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:57,719
Speaker 1: these Cardinals three, Patriots two. Would you do this trade?

1855
01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:03,639
Speaker 1: Patriots receive Kyler Murray, the third pick, draft Marvin Harrison

1856
01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:07,320
Speaker 1: junior on offensive tackle, and a second. The Cardinals get

1857
01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:10,559
Speaker 1: picked two, They draft a quarterback and a fourth.

1858
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:13,880
Speaker 5: Uh yeah, I don't hate it. I mean, I'm not

1859
01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:16,120
Speaker 5: really on the Marvin Harrison train. I just like, you know,

1860
01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:18,080
Speaker 5: going back to Evans Ran, I think that you're a

1861
01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:20,679
Speaker 5: ways away from, you know, trying to add that piece.

1862
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:23,799
Speaker 5: But but no, no, I think that's uh, you know, intriguing,

1863
01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:26,000
Speaker 5: especially if somebody's you know, wants to trade up to

1864
01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:28,639
Speaker 5: two overall, and Carol and and the Cardinals are sitting

1865
01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:30,800
Speaker 5: right below you, and they, you know, say hey, here's

1866
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:31,800
Speaker 5: a quarterback, and then.

1867
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:35,320
Speaker 3: You know, I mean, I'd go with Kyler Murray and

1868
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:35,840
Speaker 3: Joe All.

1869
01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:38,000
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, Kyler Murrays had injury issues. I

1870
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 5: think his problem isn't you know, getting the ball. The receivers,

1871
01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:42,640
Speaker 5: it's it's staying on the field. So you'd want to

1872
01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:44,639
Speaker 5: protect them, and then you know you're able to get

1873
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:46,840
Speaker 5: another maybe you get them a weapon in the second round.

1874
01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:48,840
Speaker 5: This is there's been so many good receivers in the

1875
01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:49,439
Speaker 5: second round.

1876
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:51,360
Speaker 3: And I mean Deebo, Samuel i Uk.

1877
01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:53,760
Speaker 5: Those guys are all bottom of the first early second round,

1878
01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:56,439
Speaker 5: guys that you know developed there out there. Every single

1879
01:18:56,560 --> 01:18:59,080
Speaker 5: year there's second round guys who are excellent extra Yeah,

1880
01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:00,880
Speaker 5: but their talent.

1881
01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:03,519
Speaker 1: Is evident, Like even though they were second round guys.

1882
01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:05,880
Speaker 1: You looked at him at the combine, you looked at him.

1883
01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:08,120
Speaker 1: What they didn't. It's just evident that these are really

1884
01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:12,800
Speaker 1: great athletes. You know, trust that trust the film.

1885
01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:15,240
Speaker 5: And that's what was so frustrating, I think is when

1886
01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:17,519
Speaker 5: I think most people, you know, amateur scouts like me

1887
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:19,480
Speaker 5: who watched you know, Deebo.

1888
01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:21,479
Speaker 3: Samuel, and you're like, this, this is your kind of guy.

1889
01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:23,680
Speaker 5: This guy plays the tough kind of football you want.

1890
01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:25,200
Speaker 5: He does everything, he'll carry.

1891
01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:27,120
Speaker 4: The ball, complicated, you know.

1892
01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:31,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, Harry, I mean, we talked ourselves into Nikhil, Harry,

1893
01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:32,200
Speaker 1: you know, bigger.

1894
01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:32,840
Speaker 3: He looks good.

1895
01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:35,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, but if you looked at the film, he didn't

1896
01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:38,960
Speaker 1: get separation. If he's not going to get separation in college,

1897
01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:41,160
Speaker 1: he's certainly not going to get it in the NFL.

1898
01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:41,800
Speaker 2: You know.

1899
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:44,880
Speaker 1: And we just we overlooked that, I know, and then you.

1900
01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:47,160
Speaker 3: Know, and then you ty Thornton and who. Yeah, he's fast,

1901
01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:49,360
Speaker 3: but he's not tough physical guy.

1902
01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:51,400
Speaker 5: And I mean he just gets muscled off the ball still,

1903
01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:53,840
Speaker 5: it's anything that's contested with him, he's going fly in.

1904
01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:56,280
Speaker 5: So it's I don't know, it's just I think it's

1905
01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:58,760
Speaker 5: frustrating for you know, people like Evan and I who

1906
01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:01,280
Speaker 5: you know, you put time into this, and you know,

1907
01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:05,000
Speaker 5: and especially a fast team fast, you know, but it's

1908
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:07,280
Speaker 5: like and you feel so stupid because you're like, I

1909
01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:08,840
Speaker 5: hate to say it, but I just don't see it.

1910
01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:10,600
Speaker 5: And I know that these are the professionals who have

1911
01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:12,880
Speaker 5: been in the game and have been trained by greats,

1912
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:15,000
Speaker 5: and you know, we're and I mean, granted, I have

1913
01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:16,960
Speaker 5: been doing it for like fifteen years now, so I

1914
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:18,600
Speaker 5: guess that does count for something. But you know, you

1915
01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:20,560
Speaker 5: just you feel stupid being like I don't think this

1916
01:20:20,720 --> 01:20:22,559
Speaker 5: is the right move for them, but like in hindsight,

1917
01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:25,320
Speaker 5: you're like, I don't know what to say. We were right,

1918
01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:27,519
Speaker 5: they were wrong. I don't know, Kyle and Pembroke.

1919
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:30,160
Speaker 1: My question to you is, if you could only have

1920
01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:33,639
Speaker 1: one happened this season, which would you rather the defensive

1921
01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:37,080
Speaker 1: system stays the same, but the offensive system stays the

1922
01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:40,920
Speaker 1: same as well, or have the offensive system be updated

1923
01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:43,760
Speaker 1: but the defensive system changes as well.

1924
01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:47,519
Speaker 5: I'd probably go number one, just because I'm not as

1925
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:49,400
Speaker 5: much of one of the I'm not as much on

1926
01:20:49,439 --> 01:20:52,040
Speaker 5: the train of like this offensive system is antiquated and

1927
01:20:52,040 --> 01:20:54,600
Speaker 5: it doesn't really work anymore, you know. I just I

1928
01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:56,439
Speaker 5: think that that can be tweaked. I don't think that

1929
01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:59,439
Speaker 5: it's anything is really set in stone with the offensive system.

1930
01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:01,880
Speaker 5: I like what they do on defense, but I don't

1931
01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:04,640
Speaker 5: really I don't really think that like what they do

1932
01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:07,000
Speaker 5: on defense makes them all that special. Like I just

1933
01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:09,320
Speaker 5: think that they have good players that play well, you know,

1934
01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:11,800
Speaker 5: and that's why they're good. It's not because they have

1935
01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:14,879
Speaker 5: for safeties that you know, they're kind of constantly rotating

1936
01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:17,400
Speaker 5: like this guy's is fine. But I just I think

1937
01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:20,400
Speaker 5: that that they can make that they make a good defense,

1938
01:21:20,439 --> 01:21:22,400
Speaker 5: even if they were running another scheme they've got They've

1939
01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:24,040
Speaker 5: got some good players on defensive.

1940
01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:26,439
Speaker 1: Side of the ball, and that's why they're good, Robert

1941
01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:30,439
Speaker 1: from Tennessee. Fans like Robert from Tennessee, with their total

1942
01:21:30,479 --> 01:21:33,920
Speaker 1: loyalty to Bill, are understandable. We had somebody call yesterday

1943
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:36,120
Speaker 1: a very good call. Yep, but they have it all wrong,

1944
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:41,320
Speaker 1: says Eric the Red in Mebane, North Carolina. Older fans

1945
01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:43,599
Speaker 1: like me and some of you have seen so many

1946
01:21:43,640 --> 01:21:45,560
Speaker 1: players and coaches come and go over the course of

1947
01:21:45,640 --> 01:21:48,320
Speaker 1: our lives. At some point you learn that the loyalty

1948
01:21:48,439 --> 01:21:51,080
Speaker 1: has to be to the team, not the team member.

1949
01:21:51,720 --> 01:21:54,040
Speaker 1: No one knows this better than Bill, the first one

1950
01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:57,360
Speaker 1: to sacrifice a player or coach on the altar of winning.

1951
01:21:57,840 --> 01:21:59,680
Speaker 1: I will always be grateful for the years of joy

1952
01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:02,439
Speaker 1: to us fans. I also learned from him that it's

1953
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:05,080
Speaker 1: far it's better to cut bait too soon than too late.

1954
01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:09,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a lot of that going on right now

1955
01:22:09,479 --> 01:22:12,160
Speaker 5: with when you're too early, when you're too late, those

1956
01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:12,679
Speaker 5: kind of things.

1957
01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:15,280
Speaker 3: I mean, we talked about it yesterday. We've just we've

1958
01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:17,280
Speaker 3: had a close look at a bad football team for

1959
01:22:17,320 --> 01:22:19,960
Speaker 3: a few years and you know, it's it's it's getting old.

1960
01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:20,960
Speaker 3: And as much as those.

1961
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:22,519
Speaker 5: Those wins were great, and win in the Super Bowl,

1962
01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:24,800
Speaker 5: you know, five years ago was great, it's you know,

1963
01:22:24,880 --> 01:22:27,600
Speaker 5: you gotta you gotta be honest, I mean, and like

1964
01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:30,320
Speaker 5: this team goes on after Bill Belichick. We've all known

1965
01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:32,040
Speaker 5: that this team's going to be around for you know,

1966
01:22:32,280 --> 01:22:33,679
Speaker 5: as long as football is around, hopefully.

1967
01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:38,040
Speaker 1: We do have a question about the game. Marty writes

1968
01:22:38,120 --> 01:22:40,439
Speaker 1: in looking ahead to the Broncos, what do we need

1969
01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:42,680
Speaker 1: to take away from their offense at the beginning of

1970
01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:44,920
Speaker 1: the year, I'd have to say Judy, but it seems

1971
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:48,599
Speaker 1: like Courtland Sutton has surpassed him, and how and given

1972
01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:51,840
Speaker 1: how their offense has looked, are your feelings now different

1973
01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:54,120
Speaker 1: than in the summer about not making a move for

1974
01:22:54,240 --> 01:22:55,320
Speaker 1: Judy in the offseason.

1975
01:22:56,360 --> 01:22:58,200
Speaker 5: I mean, now it has just been a waste of assets.

1976
01:22:58,200 --> 01:22:59,679
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't think he would have made any difference.

1977
01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:01,320
Speaker 3: But for me, it's the big plays.

1978
01:23:01,360 --> 01:23:03,360
Speaker 5: I think that's what's always haunted me with Russell Wilson

1979
01:23:03,439 --> 01:23:05,560
Speaker 5: and something's great down the field. Bill talk about that,

1980
01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:09,800
Speaker 5: you saw a bunch of big plays last week, blown coverages.

1981
01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:12,680
Speaker 5: You're gonna probably see Sean Wayde and Alex Austin out

1982
01:23:12,680 --> 01:23:15,400
Speaker 5: there and getting a bunch of snaps. So I think

1983
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:17,519
Speaker 5: for me, I'm not really too worried about the run

1984
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:20,000
Speaker 5: game or you know, they're not that great on that

1985
01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:22,120
Speaker 5: side of the ball. But I think Russell Wilson's always

1986
01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:23,639
Speaker 5: been real good getting the ball down the field.

1987
01:23:23,560 --> 01:23:26,840
Speaker 4: Especially when the quarterbacks scrambling too. It seems like the secondary.

1988
01:23:26,479 --> 01:23:30,120
Speaker 3: Can sometimes slaton down giving up and you don't.

1989
01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:31,760
Speaker 7: Think the guy's gonna scramble and get the playoff, and

1990
01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:33,960
Speaker 7: then he does and it's this huge explosive play, and

1991
01:23:34,040 --> 01:23:35,320
Speaker 7: it's he just hit so much.

1992
01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:37,200
Speaker 3: Russell Wilson throws such a beautiful deep ball. I mean

1993
01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:38,880
Speaker 3: it's like, you know, it's like this moon ball.

1994
01:23:38,920 --> 01:23:40,519
Speaker 5: I mean it looks like it's like launching at like

1995
01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:43,040
Speaker 5: a fifty degree angle up and then it just like

1996
01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:45,240
Speaker 5: drops down. I mean when I was in Seattle a

1997
01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:48,080
Speaker 5: couple times, I guess once in twenty twelve saw him

1998
01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:48,320
Speaker 5: throw some.

1999
01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:50,400
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just it's uncanny how he does it.

2000
01:23:51,320 --> 01:23:53,639
Speaker 1: Let's go to Eldred, North Carolina. What's up Eldred?

2001
01:23:56,240 --> 01:23:59,160
Speaker 16: Aldred the Greatest Podcast are doing?

2002
01:23:59,320 --> 01:23:59,640
Speaker 1: Thank you?

2003
01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:01,360
Speaker 3: This a Marvin Harrison question.

2004
01:24:02,240 --> 01:24:05,640
Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, you're right. I wish I was there with you,

2005
01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:08,680
Speaker 16: because you're right. You are amateur scout. You don't watch

2006
01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:12,760
Speaker 16: no college football or none of that right until till

2007
01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:14,040
Speaker 16: the last door is then correct.

2008
01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:17,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I've seen That's what I'm saying.

2009
01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:20,439
Speaker 16: I watched through the year, and I also gout years

2010
01:24:20,479 --> 01:24:24,439
Speaker 16: before too. But Harrison is the best player in the draft.

2011
01:24:25,439 --> 01:24:29,400
Speaker 16: He is, and Caleb Williams is a head case.

2012
01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:30,720
Speaker 15: You know.

2013
01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:34,160
Speaker 16: I see Drake May in North Carolina. Yeah, he got

2014
01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:36,720
Speaker 16: the side he got he got a little speed, but

2015
01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:39,719
Speaker 16: as far as you know, getting to the right reads

2016
01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:43,320
Speaker 16: and stuff, it's a little different. But but me, I know,

2017
01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:46,360
Speaker 16: you Jim, you get a good tackle in the third

2018
01:24:46,439 --> 01:24:49,800
Speaker 16: round from Wisconsin. Uh, the guy on the left side,

2019
01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:52,599
Speaker 16: you get one there, You get a in the fourth round.

2020
01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:55,400
Speaker 16: You get a right tackle from Iowa State, And he's

2021
01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:58,400
Speaker 16: good if you wanted to type of bill like you know,

2022
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:03,920
Speaker 16: But Harrison gonna be my first pick. And I don't

2023
01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:06,800
Speaker 16: want Drake May. I wouldn't kidd of William chucking around.

2024
01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:10,719
Speaker 16: I'll get get Michael Piner. That's your other quarterback, okay,

2025
01:25:11,240 --> 01:25:11,879
Speaker 16: Like I said.

2026
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:15,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sorry to go ahead.

2027
01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:17,360
Speaker 1: He's a lefty right the Pennix.

2028
01:25:17,720 --> 01:25:20,479
Speaker 16: He's a lefty. If he reminds you Steve Young in

2029
01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:23,720
Speaker 16: a way accurate, short, door, long, and he can run.

2030
01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:26,240
Speaker 16: But he was the one thing I like about him

2031
01:25:26,280 --> 01:25:28,519
Speaker 16: that made they got up with May and William. He

2032
01:25:28,640 --> 01:25:30,800
Speaker 16: plays in the weather. He could throws in the wind.

2033
01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:32,560
Speaker 16: He could throw it in the right the un You

2034
01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:34,400
Speaker 16: guys can't do that. I don't see them too much

2035
01:25:34,439 --> 01:25:37,280
Speaker 16: to do that. May can't do that. That's why Florida

2036
01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:39,640
Speaker 16: State tore that but up when we played him. So

2037
01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:45,400
Speaker 16: I'm a Florida State guy, Jordan Travis. I hate my

2038
01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:48,680
Speaker 16: quarterback fail out because he got hurt. He gonna fall

2039
01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:50,400
Speaker 16: down to the fourth or fifth round. And that boy

2040
01:25:50,479 --> 01:25:53,479
Speaker 16: is a good talent too. They six one, you know,

2041
01:25:53,600 --> 01:25:54,719
Speaker 16: but y'all have a good.

2042
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:57,320
Speaker 1: One, all right. It's getting to be Eldred season.

2043
01:25:57,479 --> 01:25:57,640
Speaker 22: I know.

2044
01:25:58,479 --> 01:26:00,439
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm glad that I'm glad that Ma Harrison

2045
01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:02,880
Speaker 5: exists for him because that we know, that's what he'll

2046
01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:03,519
Speaker 5: be doing all year.

2047
01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:04,479
Speaker 3: That's he loves them.

2048
01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:05,679
Speaker 1: He loves his wide receivers.

2049
01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:08,080
Speaker 3: He's got a type, a type we've.

2050
01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:10,840
Speaker 1: Got to get to picks. Richard and Minnesota writes in

2051
01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:13,960
Speaker 1: Love the show. Heard you in recent shows, debating where

2052
01:26:13,960 --> 01:26:16,599
Speaker 1: the phrase taking the chalk came from?

2053
01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:17,840
Speaker 3: Have you heard this before?

2054
01:26:18,200 --> 01:26:19,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, Evan doesn't let it go.

2055
01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:22,200
Speaker 1: A year later, I wanted to let you know. It's

2056
01:26:22,240 --> 01:26:24,880
Speaker 1: an old horse betting term. When the odds of horses

2057
01:26:24,960 --> 01:26:27,360
Speaker 1: were written on a chalk board, the odds and the

2058
01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:30,120
Speaker 1: favorite would change much more than the long shots due

2059
01:26:30,160 --> 01:26:32,200
Speaker 1: to the more bets being placed on it. So the

2060
01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:35,280
Speaker 1: board operator would have to erase their line many many

2061
01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:37,920
Speaker 1: times to update it, and that would leave behind more

2062
01:26:38,040 --> 01:26:41,280
Speaker 1: chalk on the favorite than the others. Therefore, the term

2063
01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:42,919
Speaker 1: chalk is applied to the favorite.

2064
01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:47,040
Speaker 3: Wow, all right, little history there, I say too. I

2065
01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:48,439
Speaker 3: hope just everybody's checking out.

2066
01:26:48,800 --> 01:26:52,640
Speaker 5: Kyle Dugam miked up from from last week and to

2067
01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:54,800
Speaker 5: the point of, uh, you know, Bill wanting robot.

2068
01:26:54,840 --> 01:26:56,360
Speaker 3: It's interesting kind of little clip.

2069
01:26:56,439 --> 01:26:58,640
Speaker 5: And Kyle Duger miked up where he's talking about you

2070
01:26:58,680 --> 01:27:01,080
Speaker 5: know when you guys blitz like you kind of implied that,

2071
01:27:01,160 --> 01:27:02,519
Speaker 5: you know, the players do have a sense of a

2072
01:27:02,560 --> 01:27:04,360
Speaker 5: little bit of freedom on the on the field.

2073
01:27:04,439 --> 01:27:05,839
Speaker 3: So go check out Kyle.

2074
01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:08,360
Speaker 1: Douglam micd up yeah extended. I mean it's more than

2075
01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:11,559
Speaker 1: the usual length of these micd up.

2076
01:27:11,560 --> 01:27:13,040
Speaker 3: It's pretty cool. We don't get enough of these, so

2077
01:27:13,160 --> 01:27:13,519
Speaker 3: it's good.

2078
01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:16,880
Speaker 1: Good thing they use the subtitles though. Oh you caunderstand

2079
01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:20,760
Speaker 1: half of you got it? Said? Yeah all right, Uh

2080
01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:22,400
Speaker 1: so it's that time of the week.

2081
01:27:24,439 --> 01:27:28,800
Speaker 3: Good mate, good way. Oh wait, I gotta be ready

2082
01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:29,439
Speaker 3: to do so now.

2083
01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:32,920
Speaker 1: First deuce, Paul tells us what happened last week.

2084
01:27:33,920 --> 01:27:36,960
Speaker 5: Well, order has been restored. I'm gonna try to do

2085
01:27:37,040 --> 01:27:38,680
Speaker 5: these little little Paul twist on them.

2086
01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:43,759
Speaker 3: Uh. First Paul twelve and four, Oh boy? Uh, Second

2087
01:27:44,520 --> 01:27:46,000
Speaker 3: Deuce thirteen and three.

2088
01:27:46,240 --> 01:27:48,160
Speaker 1: Nice week from No, wait a minute, you said Paul

2089
01:27:48,280 --> 01:27:50,840
Speaker 1: was twelve and four. You were thirteen and threes. Ok?

2090
01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:55,760
Speaker 3: Sorry, yes, so you won? Yeah you won. I'm just

2091
01:27:55,840 --> 01:27:56,160
Speaker 3: like differ.

2092
01:27:56,240 --> 01:27:58,360
Speaker 5: I'm like, of course Paul must have won. He's so great,

2093
01:27:58,720 --> 01:28:01,200
Speaker 5: all right, So I won. That's where I Paul take that.

2094
01:28:01,479 --> 01:28:04,960
Speaker 5: Uh tied in second Alex and Evan at eleven and

2095
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:07,880
Speaker 5: five and Fred ten and six.

2096
01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:08,400
Speaker 1: Boy.

2097
01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:12,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, So with the spread, however it's it was, it was,

2098
01:28:12,600 --> 01:28:15,200
Speaker 5: it wasn't as close. Paul did run away with it

2099
01:28:15,280 --> 01:28:17,960
Speaker 5: with the spread ten to four and two. Big week

2100
01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:21,240
Speaker 5: for Paul, then Fred seven to seven and two, and

2101
01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:24,080
Speaker 5: then a three way tie down the bottom six eight

2102
01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:28,360
Speaker 5: and two for Mike, Alex and Evan. So I'm gonna

2103
01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:31,519
Speaker 5: have to tell you and standings we've got probably does

2104
01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:32,960
Speaker 5: this nice by the way, I mean, it's just you know,

2105
01:28:33,080 --> 01:28:34,479
Speaker 5: it's all laid.

2106
01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:36,040
Speaker 1: Out for me. You think I would have been doing

2107
01:28:36,040 --> 01:28:38,040
Speaker 1: it since he was four years old making book.

2108
01:28:38,760 --> 01:28:41,160
Speaker 5: I mean, if only some of us new thirteen was

2109
01:28:41,200 --> 01:28:45,120
Speaker 5: more than twelve. So Paul still leads one, fifteen, ninety eight.

2110
01:28:45,640 --> 01:28:49,679
Speaker 3: And eleven, followed This is the season, where's Alex?

2111
01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:50,479
Speaker 4: All right?

2112
01:28:50,520 --> 01:28:53,599
Speaker 3: Alex is Oh god, I'm screwing this up so bad.

2113
01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:55,519
Speaker 3: I'm so bad. All right, let me restart this. This

2114
01:28:55,640 --> 01:28:58,360
Speaker 3: is just overall regular, straight up.

2115
01:28:58,439 --> 01:29:02,200
Speaker 5: Alex still leads one, forty two and eighty two, followed

2116
01:29:02,240 --> 01:29:06,439
Speaker 5: by Paul one thirty nine eighty five, Evan one thirty

2117
01:29:06,479 --> 01:29:09,640
Speaker 5: four and ninety Uh oh no.

2118
01:29:09,640 --> 01:29:12,920
Speaker 3: Wait, sorry, Deuce, Deuce is messing.

2119
01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:15,200
Speaker 8: This up so bad, it's not as easy to No,

2120
01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:15,560
Speaker 8: it's not.

2121
01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:19,519
Speaker 3: It's not. I like it ordered, change that to me. Uh,

2122
01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:21,479
Speaker 3: one thirty five and eighty nine.

2123
01:29:22,080 --> 01:29:22,160
Speaker 14: Uh.

2124
01:29:22,280 --> 01:29:25,200
Speaker 5: Then Evan is one thirty four and ninety and Fred

2125
01:29:25,280 --> 01:29:28,479
Speaker 5: one thirty three and ninety one. So duce climbing out

2126
01:29:28,520 --> 01:29:31,799
Speaker 5: of the basement there, still very close now with the spread.

2127
01:29:32,360 --> 01:29:34,360
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do this right this time, I promise everyone.

2128
01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:34,800
Speaker 1: Uh.

2129
01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:39,000
Speaker 5: Paul one fifteen, ninety eight and eleven, followed by Alex

2130
01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:42,639
Speaker 5: one oh seven, one oh six and eleven, then Evan

2131
01:29:42,720 --> 01:29:45,519
Speaker 5: one O three, one ten and eleven, Fred one O

2132
01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:47,680
Speaker 5: two eleven, one eleven and eleven.

2133
01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:51,160
Speaker 3: And Deuce ninety seven one sixteen and eleven.

2134
01:29:51,200 --> 01:29:53,160
Speaker 1: Paul running away with the spread.

2135
01:29:53,400 --> 01:29:54,559
Speaker 3: That was that was hard?

2136
01:29:54,680 --> 01:29:57,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, So now, all right, we're gonna just

2137
01:29:58,040 --> 01:29:59,360
Speaker 5: go with the odds that Paul has written here.

2138
01:29:59,400 --> 01:30:01,120
Speaker 3: I didn't update them or check them, so we'll just

2139
01:30:01,320 --> 01:30:01,600
Speaker 3: go with.

2140
01:30:01,760 --> 01:30:04,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, because that's how he picked his game, so we

2141
01:30:04,160 --> 01:30:06,280
Speaker 1: might as well use the same odds that he used.

2142
01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:09,599
Speaker 1: All right, that makes sense, I guess.

2143
01:30:09,680 --> 01:30:12,280
Speaker 5: I guess I'll just tee it up since Morrel's here

2144
01:30:12,280 --> 01:30:14,679
Speaker 5: and I feel like Matisa is not ready to all

2145
01:30:14,720 --> 01:30:15,280
Speaker 5: these lines.

2146
01:30:15,240 --> 01:30:17,400
Speaker 1: All right, so I I will start. Okay, hold on,

2147
01:30:18,120 --> 01:30:22,639
Speaker 1: you know tonight is how it works, is old works

2148
01:30:22,680 --> 01:30:27,240
Speaker 1: this way. No, you're off frazzled different. And so what

2149
01:30:27,400 --> 01:30:30,600
Speaker 1: we'll do is you first, Alex. You'll do Paul in

2150
01:30:30,680 --> 01:30:33,439
Speaker 1: the right water, and then I'll go okay, okay, so

2151
01:30:33,560 --> 01:30:36,800
Speaker 1: that we don't screw that up. All right? Tonight on

2152
01:30:36,960 --> 01:30:41,400
Speaker 1: eight fifteen on Prime it's the seven and seven Saints

2153
01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:44,040
Speaker 1: at the seven and seven Rams.

2154
01:30:44,320 --> 01:30:49,120
Speaker 3: ROMs ROMs by four, and so I guess do I

2155
01:30:49,200 --> 01:30:49,479
Speaker 3: go first?

2156
01:30:49,760 --> 01:30:49,960
Speaker 1: Yes?

2157
01:30:49,960 --> 01:30:51,639
Speaker 5: All right, I'm gonna go first to keep it going.

2158
01:30:52,280 --> 01:30:54,439
Speaker 5: Uh yeah, I think the Rams are pretty good with

2159
01:30:54,479 --> 01:30:58,000
Speaker 5: with Stafford. I'm gonna take for Evan, but we'll blast,

2160
01:30:58,040 --> 01:30:59,439
Speaker 5: we'll blast, do it real quick with him, We'll do

2161
01:30:59,479 --> 01:31:05,960
Speaker 5: speed round. I will take the Rams both ways, Okay, Alex.

2162
01:31:05,880 --> 01:31:07,920
Speaker 4: I also took the Rams both ways.

2163
01:31:08,080 --> 01:31:09,479
Speaker 3: You took them. You already prepared for this.

2164
01:31:09,800 --> 01:31:12,600
Speaker 4: I did today. I prepared because I feel over taking it.

2165
01:31:12,880 --> 01:31:14,479
Speaker 4: I feel Paul breathing down my next.

2166
01:31:14,560 --> 01:31:16,960
Speaker 7: So this week I was like, I cannot chow three

2167
01:31:17,000 --> 01:31:19,040
Speaker 7: games behind and I need to get it together.

2168
01:31:19,080 --> 01:31:21,200
Speaker 4: I'm gonna put I'm gonna put a little research in today.

2169
01:31:21,280 --> 01:31:22,280
Speaker 3: So Paul is also.

2170
01:31:22,479 --> 01:31:26,759
Speaker 1: Larla Larlar for Paul yep, well he loves his Matthew

2171
01:31:26,800 --> 01:31:30,200
Speaker 1: Stafford all right now we uh and I also will

2172
01:31:30,240 --> 01:31:36,080
Speaker 1: take the Larla. So now, two games on Saturday. The

2173
01:31:36,160 --> 01:31:39,760
Speaker 1: first one is at four thirty on NBC. I'm sure

2174
01:31:40,479 --> 01:31:43,080
Speaker 1: the eight and six Bengals are at the seven and

2175
01:31:43,200 --> 01:31:44,160
Speaker 1: seven Steelers.

2176
01:31:44,800 --> 01:31:49,880
Speaker 5: This will be Cincinnati by two, and I am going

2177
01:31:49,960 --> 01:31:52,519
Speaker 5: to take Cincinnati by two, and I'm gonna lay those

2178
01:31:52,520 --> 01:31:55,560
Speaker 5: two points. So I'm going Cincinnati Cincinnati.

2179
01:31:57,040 --> 01:31:59,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, Steelers at home usually makes gives me pause. But

2180
01:32:00,840 --> 01:32:02,439
Speaker 4: I don't know. I think they're starting to fall apart.

2181
01:32:02,680 --> 01:32:03,000
Speaker 1: They are.

2182
01:32:03,160 --> 01:32:05,960
Speaker 4: I don't know how Cincinnati's pulling this all together.

2183
01:32:06,120 --> 01:32:07,639
Speaker 3: Jake Brownie chucking duck.

2184
01:32:09,280 --> 01:32:11,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, I want to say that it's gonna be up

2185
01:32:11,720 --> 01:32:14,160
Speaker 7: this week, but I just don't have that faith in

2186
01:32:14,240 --> 01:32:14,799
Speaker 7: the Steelers.

2187
01:32:14,920 --> 01:32:17,559
Speaker 4: So I took the Bengals both ways, all.

2188
01:32:17,479 --> 01:32:20,280
Speaker 1: Right, since since what is Paul Paul is pit?

2189
01:32:20,439 --> 01:32:23,519
Speaker 3: Pitt Paul is pit pitched. Yeah, I thought i'd be

2190
01:32:23,680 --> 01:32:25,720
Speaker 3: on an iron hell Alex pressure on that one.

2191
01:32:26,280 --> 01:32:27,360
Speaker 4: The Steelers at home, and so.

2192
01:32:27,680 --> 01:32:31,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, usually I'm going to take the Steelers both ways

2193
01:32:31,200 --> 01:32:34,439
Speaker 1: as well. Bengals, I think right now are obviously the

2194
01:32:34,520 --> 01:32:38,880
Speaker 1: better team. Steelers are reeling, they're falling apart, they're questioning Tomlin,

2195
01:32:38,920 --> 01:32:41,920
Speaker 1: they're questioning the culture. But it's a division game.

2196
01:32:42,720 --> 01:32:42,840
Speaker 16: Uh.

2197
01:32:43,160 --> 01:32:45,400
Speaker 1: These games are always tough. I think the Steelers get

2198
01:32:45,479 --> 01:32:47,919
Speaker 1: up for this game. I think they play hard for Tomlin.

2199
01:32:48,160 --> 01:32:50,320
Speaker 1: They're hearing the noise. So I'm gonna go with the

2200
01:32:50,360 --> 01:32:52,439
Speaker 1: Steelers as well, plus the fact that I can never

2201
01:32:52,479 --> 01:32:58,040
Speaker 1: pick the Bengals. Saturday night at eight thirty U is

2202
01:32:58,080 --> 01:32:59,280
Speaker 1: a game on Peacock.

2203
01:33:00,720 --> 01:33:03,200
Speaker 3: So in the fourth quarter I saw too.

2204
01:33:03,200 --> 01:33:06,840
Speaker 1: No commercials in the fourth quarter. That's pretty interesting. So

2205
01:33:07,040 --> 01:33:11,160
Speaker 1: this is an NBC own day. Peacock is obviously their

2206
01:33:11,240 --> 01:33:15,000
Speaker 1: streaming service. I don't know who in this room has

2207
01:33:15,240 --> 01:33:18,400
Speaker 1: access to Peacock. Does everyone have Peacock? But y'all, I

2208
01:33:18,439 --> 01:33:19,400
Speaker 1: don't think I have everything.

2209
01:33:19,400 --> 01:33:21,040
Speaker 5: I don't think I have the paid peacock, but I

2210
01:33:21,080 --> 01:33:23,160
Speaker 5: got the regular peacock everybody has.

2211
01:33:23,600 --> 01:33:28,360
Speaker 1: You can turn on your mic oh, turn on hello everybody.

2212
01:33:29,240 --> 01:33:31,880
Speaker 8: Yeah, everybody has Peacock. You just might not pay for

2213
01:33:32,040 --> 01:33:34,240
Speaker 8: the for the premium.

2214
01:33:33,960 --> 01:33:37,439
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, And in this game on the normal peacock, yeah, you.

2215
01:33:37,439 --> 01:33:39,200
Speaker 8: Can get it. Get it on the cock.

2216
01:33:40,840 --> 01:33:46,000
Speaker 4: Jesus Christ. Wow, all right, in the beginning of the

2217
01:33:46,040 --> 01:33:47,480
Speaker 4: show is like I'm seeing balls.

2218
01:33:47,240 --> 01:33:47,839
Speaker 1: Too much.

2219
01:33:49,320 --> 01:33:53,799
Speaker 3: Around the horn. Okay, so so black Buffalo by eleven

2220
01:33:53,840 --> 01:33:54,400
Speaker 3: and a half.

2221
01:33:54,280 --> 01:33:57,879
Speaker 1: Buffalo eight and six, Buffalo at the five and nine Chargers.

2222
01:33:58,120 --> 01:34:00,760
Speaker 5: So I'm gonna take I'm gonna take Buffalo both ways.

2223
01:34:00,760 --> 01:34:03,400
Speaker 5: I'm gonna lay all eleven of those eleven and a

2224
01:34:03,439 --> 01:34:05,320
Speaker 5: half of those points, Miss Alex.

2225
01:34:05,560 --> 01:34:07,160
Speaker 4: I'm also rallying for the Bills.

2226
01:34:07,479 --> 01:34:09,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, buff and Evan, you can join the fray here.

2227
01:34:09,920 --> 01:34:10,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2228
01:34:10,080 --> 01:34:11,639
Speaker 8: I didn't pick the first couple of games, but I'll

2229
01:34:11,640 --> 01:34:12,080
Speaker 8: tell you later.

2230
01:34:12,280 --> 01:34:13,559
Speaker 1: Okay, what's this game again?

2231
01:34:13,600 --> 01:34:15,920
Speaker 3: Buffalo Bill's Charlot Chargers.

2232
01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:16,800
Speaker 1: Was eleven and a half.

2233
01:34:17,200 --> 01:34:19,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, Bills, Bills, Yeah.

2234
01:34:19,280 --> 01:34:23,120
Speaker 3: Buff buff Paul is buff lack soul thinks that is

2235
01:34:23,160 --> 01:34:24,040
Speaker 3: going to keep it close.

2236
01:34:24,360 --> 01:34:27,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna go Bills both ways. To me, they're

2237
01:34:28,160 --> 01:34:30,240
Speaker 1: they're the hot team. They're the hot team.

2238
01:34:30,320 --> 01:34:30,840
Speaker 3: Hot stuff.

2239
01:34:31,360 --> 01:34:35,040
Speaker 1: Before we move on to uh Sunday's games, Evan, any

2240
01:34:35,120 --> 01:34:36,240
Speaker 1: updates from practice?

2241
01:34:36,479 --> 01:34:38,240
Speaker 8: Yes, I don't know.

2242
01:34:38,320 --> 01:34:38,920
Speaker 1: Do we have the song?

2243
01:34:39,040 --> 01:34:39,080
Speaker 22: No?

2244
01:34:39,320 --> 01:34:40,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have to play the.

2245
01:34:40,240 --> 01:34:46,320
Speaker 12: Song has returned pact and then has returned.

2246
01:34:48,280 --> 01:34:49,480
Speaker 14: Has returned.

2247
01:34:50,760 --> 01:34:57,080
Speaker 8: The All right? I have to say so many people

2248
01:34:57,439 --> 01:35:00,320
Speaker 8: tell tell us about how much they love the song.

2249
01:35:00,479 --> 01:35:02,040
Speaker 8: So I'm just giving the people what they want.

2250
01:35:02,560 --> 01:35:03,840
Speaker 1: It's right for you to do.

2251
01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:08,519
Speaker 8: So, yeah, it's a hit. Okay, So sorry, dudes, not

2252
01:35:08,720 --> 01:35:14,560
Speaker 8: spotted Jerrel Peppers, Ormandra Stevenson, Connor McDermott. Two new absences,

2253
01:35:14,640 --> 01:35:18,720
Speaker 8: Anthony Jennings and Cody Davis. But it is it's it's

2254
01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:22,040
Speaker 8: it's cold You mentioned Henry there, I'm getting there. Okay,

2255
01:35:22,960 --> 01:35:25,360
Speaker 8: it's cold season, you know. So I I they weren't

2256
01:35:25,400 --> 01:35:27,800
Speaker 8: on the injury report yesterday, so I would imagine that

2257
01:35:27,880 --> 01:35:31,519
Speaker 8: maybe that's an illness situation and tight end hunter. Henry

2258
01:35:31,880 --> 01:35:33,400
Speaker 8: was back at practice.

2259
01:35:34,400 --> 01:35:36,640
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what, I give him a lot

2260
01:35:36,680 --> 01:35:38,560
Speaker 1: of credits this, ye do, I do?

2261
01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:42,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, But there's a butt. He was at practice, but

2262
01:35:43,120 --> 01:35:45,880
Speaker 8: he wasn't doing very much of anything for the time

2263
01:35:45,920 --> 01:35:47,720
Speaker 8: that we were out there. He wasn't uniform to have

2264
01:35:48,200 --> 01:35:51,360
Speaker 8: practice gear on and everything, but it was it was

2265
01:35:51,600 --> 01:35:52,840
Speaker 8: very very light participation.

2266
01:35:52,880 --> 01:35:54,320
Speaker 1: If you had to put your money on whether he

2267
01:35:54,400 --> 01:35:55,599
Speaker 1: plays or not, what would you say?

2268
01:35:58,040 --> 01:36:00,720
Speaker 8: No, I say yes, yes because of any playing time.

2269
01:36:02,360 --> 01:36:03,960
Speaker 1: Alex nailed it. He's hockey tough.

2270
01:36:05,840 --> 01:36:10,519
Speaker 8: But I would say yes because I don't Yeah, if

2271
01:36:10,560 --> 01:36:13,519
Speaker 8: he's out there today, it signals that it was probably

2272
01:36:13,600 --> 01:36:16,680
Speaker 8: just like a bad bone bruise, you know, type of hit,

2273
01:36:16,920 --> 01:36:18,400
Speaker 8: not like structural damage.

2274
01:36:19,760 --> 01:36:21,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's spectating. I feel like it's for a reason.

2275
01:36:22,160 --> 01:36:25,760
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, subject I think he plays. Yeah yeah, but

2276
01:36:25,920 --> 01:36:27,760
Speaker 1: he's he's been taking a beating for sure.

2277
01:36:27,920 --> 01:36:30,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, ZAPPI threw him some hospital balls.

2278
01:36:30,320 --> 01:36:32,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay, So now we can move on to Sunday

2279
01:36:32,920 --> 01:36:36,000
Speaker 1: at one on Fox. The eight and six Colts are

2280
01:36:36,040 --> 01:36:37,640
Speaker 1: at the six and eight Falcons.

2281
01:36:38,920 --> 01:36:43,400
Speaker 5: That's gonna be the Falcons by one, and I know

2282
01:36:43,439 --> 01:36:45,519
Speaker 5: I think they're making another quarterback change there in the

2283
01:36:45,600 --> 01:36:46,120
Speaker 5: at L.

2284
01:36:46,200 --> 01:36:46,479
Speaker 1: I don't know.

2285
01:36:46,520 --> 01:36:48,360
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with Indy on this one. I just

2286
01:36:48,439 --> 01:36:51,280
Speaker 3: think they've been just cutting loose and having fun with it.

2287
01:36:51,360 --> 01:36:55,799
Speaker 1: So all right, Indie, Indy Evan, uh cold set Falcons.

2288
01:36:56,000 --> 01:36:59,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, sorry, I'm catching up here. Uh yeah. I like

2289
01:36:59,280 --> 01:37:03,160
Speaker 8: the Colts in this game too. I think Steichen Coach

2290
01:37:03,200 --> 01:37:05,880
Speaker 8: of the year maybe. And also Philly's offense is kind

2291
01:37:05,920 --> 01:37:08,640
Speaker 8: of dropped off without him, so I wonder how much

2292
01:37:08,720 --> 01:37:10,479
Speaker 8: of a he had to do with that last year.

2293
01:37:11,000 --> 01:37:13,920
Speaker 8: He might be a sneaky good coach, maybe not even

2294
01:37:13,960 --> 01:37:14,679
Speaker 8: sneaky anymore.

2295
01:37:16,560 --> 01:37:21,000
Speaker 3: Alex, who did you pick already? Did take the well

2296
01:37:21,960 --> 01:37:22,240
Speaker 3: love this.

2297
01:37:22,360 --> 01:37:24,519
Speaker 5: I think I'm worried, Alex, you might be overthinking this

2298
01:37:24,640 --> 01:37:26,280
Speaker 5: right now you're actually doing research and stuff.

2299
01:37:26,320 --> 01:37:29,439
Speaker 1: That's when it's but No, I feel good. I'm taking

2300
01:37:29,479 --> 01:37:31,439
Speaker 1: the Colts as well, and it makes me feel better

2301
01:37:31,560 --> 01:37:32,600
Speaker 1: that Alex is taking it.

2302
01:37:32,680 --> 01:37:35,920
Speaker 4: Paul, Falcons are just too Yeah, you never know what you're.

2303
01:37:35,760 --> 01:37:38,639
Speaker 1: Gonna get out them. They're they're They're the Detroit Lions

2304
01:37:38,760 --> 01:37:41,400
Speaker 1: of the modern day. Paul was Indie Indy too, by

2305
01:37:41,400 --> 01:37:44,519
Speaker 1: the way, Indie Indy for Paul. One o'clock on Fox.

2306
01:37:44,680 --> 01:37:47,519
Speaker 1: The six and eight Packers are at the two and twelve.

2307
01:37:47,640 --> 01:37:50,559
Speaker 1: Panthers Go Green Go Panthers, Right.

2308
01:37:50,520 --> 01:37:51,080
Speaker 3: Go Panthers.

2309
01:37:51,200 --> 01:37:55,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's gonna be green Bay by five. And as

2310
01:37:55,120 --> 01:37:56,720
Speaker 5: much as I want to pick the Carolina, I just

2311
01:37:57,080 --> 01:37:59,800
Speaker 5: Green Bay sporadic. They're a young team, but I think

2312
01:37:59,840 --> 01:38:01,639
Speaker 5: they got some talent and I think they're gonna knock

2313
01:38:01,640 --> 01:38:04,000
Speaker 5: off Carolina. I'll take Green Bay Green Bay.

2314
01:38:04,200 --> 01:38:07,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, I've been I was really surprised that the Packers

2315
01:38:07,200 --> 01:38:09,160
Speaker 8: lost to the Bucks at home last week. That was

2316
01:38:09,200 --> 01:38:11,920
Speaker 8: a weird one. But I still think that offensively that

2317
01:38:12,040 --> 01:38:14,040
Speaker 8: Jordan Love has been playing pretty well. So I'm going

2318
01:38:14,120 --> 01:38:17,200
Speaker 8: to take the Packers here. I'll take them to cover.

2319
01:38:17,280 --> 01:38:18,639
Speaker 8: I just think that they're going to score too many

2320
01:38:18,680 --> 01:38:20,000
Speaker 8: points for Carolina.

2321
01:38:20,320 --> 01:38:23,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the Packers win. I think Panthers go

2322
01:38:23,160 --> 01:38:24,519
Speaker 4: back to reality this week.

2323
01:38:25,280 --> 01:38:26,400
Speaker 1: What's Paul say?

2324
01:38:27,120 --> 01:38:28,879
Speaker 3: Paul says Green Bay Carolina.

2325
01:38:29,000 --> 01:38:32,080
Speaker 1: So Paul, I agree with Paul. I believe that the

2326
01:38:32,160 --> 01:38:35,439
Speaker 1: Panthers will lose, but not five more than five and

2327
01:38:35,479 --> 01:38:35,760
Speaker 1: a half.

2328
01:38:35,960 --> 01:38:40,360
Speaker 3: Paul is the spread master yep like spreading Mao on

2329
01:38:40,400 --> 01:38:40,799
Speaker 3: the same.

2330
01:38:43,479 --> 01:38:48,160
Speaker 1: An Italian one o'clock on CBS nine and five Browns

2331
01:38:48,240 --> 01:38:50,280
Speaker 1: are at the eight and six Texans.

2332
01:38:50,720 --> 01:38:54,560
Speaker 5: Browns by two and a half sounds like, what's his

2333
01:38:54,640 --> 01:38:56,240
Speaker 5: face still in the coach and protocol?

2334
01:38:57,160 --> 01:38:59,400
Speaker 3: You know what I'm talking about? Stroud.

2335
01:38:59,640 --> 01:39:02,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna take Cleveland. I think, you know, talk

2336
01:39:02,360 --> 01:39:04,680
Speaker 5: about coach of the Year candidates. They just continue to

2337
01:39:04,720 --> 01:39:07,479
Speaker 5: play play hard. I'll take Cleveland both ways.

2338
01:39:08,160 --> 01:39:11,840
Speaker 8: I am going to take the Browns both ways too.

2339
01:39:12,160 --> 01:39:14,840
Speaker 8: I do think the Textans will be feisty in this game, though,

2340
01:39:15,400 --> 01:39:16,439
Speaker 8: but two and a half.

2341
01:39:16,400 --> 01:39:18,080
Speaker 3: Is yeah, it's not even a hook.

2342
01:39:18,200 --> 01:39:20,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's not even Yeah. I think the Browns that

2343
01:39:20,280 --> 01:39:20,599
Speaker 8: makes sense.

2344
01:39:20,600 --> 01:39:21,800
Speaker 4: I take the Browns both ways too.

2345
01:39:22,120 --> 01:39:23,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, what does Paul say?

2346
01:39:24,160 --> 01:39:26,080
Speaker 3: Paul says cleek clee, Yeah, me too.

2347
01:39:26,479 --> 01:39:30,400
Speaker 1: That defense travels. Yep, gotta give them credit. One o'clock

2348
01:39:30,479 --> 01:39:33,000
Speaker 1: on Fox, the ten and four Lions are at the

2349
01:39:33,160 --> 01:39:34,560
Speaker 1: seven and seven Vikings.

2350
01:39:35,160 --> 01:39:39,040
Speaker 3: Lions by a three and a half. We talk a

2351
01:39:39,080 --> 01:39:41,519
Speaker 3: little bit about Minnesota here divisional battle.

2352
01:39:41,760 --> 01:39:42,639
Speaker 4: Anyone own anyone?

2353
01:39:44,160 --> 01:39:46,840
Speaker 5: I would guess Minnesota generally owns Detroit because that's usually

2354
01:39:46,880 --> 01:39:50,240
Speaker 5: how it's gone. But I'm gonna take Detroit and I'm

2355
01:39:50,240 --> 01:39:52,599
Speaker 5: gonna get a little wacky, a little weird, little crazy.

2356
01:39:52,680 --> 01:39:56,160
Speaker 5: I'm gonna take Minnesota with the hook three point set

2357
01:39:56,240 --> 01:39:57,280
Speaker 5: number again three and a half.

2358
01:39:57,720 --> 01:40:00,639
Speaker 8: So I assume this is a Nick Mullins g Nick

2359
01:40:00,720 --> 01:40:04,400
Speaker 8: Mullen's special for the Vikings. I'm gonna take the Lions

2360
01:40:04,479 --> 01:40:07,599
Speaker 8: both ways though. I was pretty impressed watching them against

2361
01:40:07,640 --> 01:40:09,559
Speaker 8: the Broncos last week. That's not a bad Broncos team.

2362
01:40:09,600 --> 01:40:12,120
Speaker 8: The Patriots are playing and the Lions made them look bad.

2363
01:40:12,760 --> 01:40:15,519
Speaker 8: That offensive line is is my dream come true? That's great.

2364
01:40:15,800 --> 01:40:18,000
Speaker 8: That's a really good offense lines.

2365
01:40:18,200 --> 01:40:19,880
Speaker 3: Didn't they like it? They're they're like guard or something

2366
01:40:19,880 --> 01:40:21,559
Speaker 3: like that. The Patriots liked one of their guys.

2367
01:40:21,400 --> 01:40:23,040
Speaker 8: Frank, Now, yeah, that was one.

2368
01:40:23,160 --> 01:40:28,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I did what I split Lions win Vikings points.

2369
01:40:29,479 --> 01:40:33,200
Speaker 1: And Paul did Detroit Detroit, and I will do Detroit

2370
01:40:33,280 --> 01:40:37,680
Speaker 1: Detroit as well. All right, Uh, Sunday at once on CBS,

2371
01:40:38,080 --> 01:40:40,880
Speaker 1: the four and ten Commanders are at the five and

2372
01:40:41,040 --> 01:40:41,759
Speaker 1: nine Jets.

2373
01:40:42,800 --> 01:40:44,960
Speaker 3: Jets by three, Jets by three.

2374
01:40:46,360 --> 01:40:48,640
Speaker 1: That's weird. That's a weird one backing for them.

2375
01:40:48,680 --> 01:40:50,920
Speaker 3: And I don't even know right now. No, he's he's

2376
01:40:51,160 --> 01:40:54,320
Speaker 3: he's out cushion protocol too. Do you see him get crushed?

2377
01:40:54,360 --> 01:40:58,800
Speaker 3: He got absolutely just destroyed. I don't know. I'm gonna go.

2378
01:40:59,240 --> 01:41:01,240
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go Walkton Washington on this one.

2379
01:41:02,280 --> 01:41:02,479
Speaker 1: Hmm.

2380
01:41:02,800 --> 01:41:03,680
Speaker 3: That's what Paul did too.

2381
01:41:05,520 --> 01:41:07,400
Speaker 8: Yeah. I don't even I don't even know who's playing

2382
01:41:07,479 --> 01:41:09,280
Speaker 8: quarterback for the Jets. I'm trying to figure it out

2383
01:41:09,320 --> 01:41:13,599
Speaker 8: really quickly. I don't. I gotta say, if they lose

2384
01:41:13,680 --> 01:41:16,080
Speaker 8: this game to the Commanders, like, are we sure Robert

2385
01:41:16,120 --> 01:41:17,880
Speaker 8: sala is going to be the coach there next year?

2386
01:41:17,960 --> 01:41:20,799
Speaker 8: Because all of these other teams are winning with backup

2387
01:41:20,880 --> 01:41:23,880
Speaker 8: quarterbacks and like, you know, being feisty and things like that,

2388
01:41:24,000 --> 01:41:26,200
Speaker 8: and that Jets team is terrible. Like at some point

2389
01:41:26,240 --> 01:41:26,920
Speaker 8: you got to look at the.

2390
01:41:26,920 --> 01:41:28,559
Speaker 1: Coll The backup was Zach Wilson.

2391
01:41:29,280 --> 01:41:32,719
Speaker 8: Yeah, and like the Browns have started like four different

2392
01:41:32,760 --> 01:41:34,640
Speaker 8: quarterbacks and one games with all of them, you know,

2393
01:41:35,400 --> 01:41:37,760
Speaker 8: like it just at some point, like I keep hearing

2394
01:41:37,800 --> 01:41:39,840
Speaker 8: about how great the roster is in New York, how

2395
01:41:39,840 --> 01:41:41,680
Speaker 8: great the roster is, and it's like, well, then you

2396
01:41:41,720 --> 01:41:43,920
Speaker 8: should be able to win some games with with whoever

2397
01:41:44,000 --> 01:41:45,639
Speaker 8: is that quarterback? Like if you can win a game

2398
01:41:45,680 --> 01:41:48,719
Speaker 8: with d t R if you're the Browns, I'm gonna,

2399
01:41:48,960 --> 01:41:51,240
Speaker 8: I'm gonna take the Commanders in this game. I gonna

2400
01:41:51,280 --> 01:41:53,680
Speaker 8: I'm gonna take the upset. And I just I think

2401
01:41:53,680 --> 01:41:55,000
Speaker 8: it might be coming a part in New York.

2402
01:41:55,160 --> 01:42:00,280
Speaker 1: I do yeah, uh, what do they know? Do they

2403
01:42:00,320 --> 01:42:02,200
Speaker 1: know someone like hurt on the.

2404
01:42:04,479 --> 01:42:06,880
Speaker 8: Well, they don't have a quarterback and you know they

2405
01:42:07,000 --> 01:42:10,120
Speaker 8: just lost thirty to nothing to to the Dolphins.

2406
01:42:10,280 --> 01:42:12,960
Speaker 3: Like I don't know a favorite. Yeah, I don't know

2407
01:42:12,960 --> 01:42:14,479
Speaker 3: about Paul's numbers. Maybe have to check them.

2408
01:42:14,520 --> 01:42:18,559
Speaker 4: All right, we got Commanders, I guess both ways.

2409
01:42:18,600 --> 01:42:19,879
Speaker 3: I get bringing endorsement.

2410
01:42:20,320 --> 01:42:24,960
Speaker 1: What is Paul thinking? Washwash washwash, I'm gonna go Jets.

2411
01:42:25,360 --> 01:42:29,320
Speaker 1: I think the Commanders are having trouble too, so I mean,

2412
01:42:29,439 --> 01:42:33,680
Speaker 1: Ron Rivera is on the hot seat, so I'm I'm

2413
01:42:33,680 --> 01:42:37,400
Speaker 1: gonna go with Jets at home. Their defense rallies both

2414
01:42:37,439 --> 01:42:41,520
Speaker 1: ways both ways. Yep. They cover Sunday at one CBS.

2415
01:42:42,200 --> 01:42:45,519
Speaker 1: The seven and seven Seahawks are at the five and

2416
01:42:45,680 --> 01:42:46,560
Speaker 1: nine Titans.

2417
01:42:48,160 --> 01:42:50,559
Speaker 3: This is the Seahawks by two and a half. These

2418
01:42:50,600 --> 01:42:53,799
Speaker 3: are These are two deuced favorite ancillary teams.

2419
01:42:53,920 --> 01:42:55,720
Speaker 5: I love the Seahawks growing up, and we all know

2420
01:42:55,920 --> 01:43:00,720
Speaker 5: my feeling toward Raabel and when worlds collide, I'm gonna

2421
01:43:00,760 --> 01:43:02,679
Speaker 5: take Seattle both ways.

2422
01:43:02,920 --> 01:43:05,160
Speaker 8: By the way, it would be Trevor Simeon for the

2423
01:43:05,400 --> 01:43:06,080
Speaker 8: for the Jets.

2424
01:43:06,439 --> 01:43:06,719
Speaker 1: Cool.

2425
01:43:08,160 --> 01:43:08,840
Speaker 3: It's like you're lying.

2426
01:43:09,040 --> 01:43:09,280
Speaker 7: Cool.

2427
01:43:09,439 --> 01:43:15,799
Speaker 8: Yeah, I am worried about Seattle traveling at one o'clock

2428
01:43:15,880 --> 01:43:18,000
Speaker 8: game on the East coast. Those there are always a

2429
01:43:18,080 --> 01:43:20,040
Speaker 8: tough spot. It sounds like Gino Smith is going to

2430
01:43:20,080 --> 01:43:21,280
Speaker 8: be back. I don't know if that's a good thing

2431
01:43:21,400 --> 01:43:25,000
Speaker 8: or a bad thing. After how Drew Locke played, I'm

2432
01:43:25,040 --> 01:43:28,000
Speaker 8: gonna go with Seattle. I just think they're a better team,

2433
01:43:28,640 --> 01:43:30,839
Speaker 8: but I don't love it. But I'm gonna go Seattle

2434
01:43:32,080 --> 01:43:33,320
Speaker 8: less for the spread one more time.

2435
01:43:33,960 --> 01:43:36,320
Speaker 3: Seattle by two and a half, very close.

2436
01:43:38,479 --> 01:43:39,919
Speaker 4: I have Seattle both ways.

2437
01:43:40,960 --> 01:43:43,439
Speaker 3: Paul, Paul went Tennessee both ways.

2438
01:43:43,520 --> 01:43:47,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, which Titans team comes out? Yeah, Yeah, I'm gonna

2439
01:43:47,560 --> 01:43:52,880
Speaker 1: go with Seattle. I think they've been competitive all year, yeah,

2440
01:43:53,560 --> 01:43:55,760
Speaker 1: rally after last year. Yeah, I think so. I'm gonna

2441
01:43:55,760 --> 01:43:57,760
Speaker 1: go with the Seahawks. All right. Now we move to

2442
01:43:57,840 --> 01:44:02,200
Speaker 1: the four o'clock game five, there's only one at four

2443
01:44:02,280 --> 01:44:05,559
Speaker 1: or five. The eight and six Jaguars are at these

2444
01:44:05,600 --> 01:44:07,040
Speaker 1: seven and seven Buccaneers.

2445
01:44:07,240 --> 01:44:08,960
Speaker 3: They take a bust to this one when right, this

2446
01:44:09,080 --> 01:44:11,920
Speaker 3: is Tampa Bay by one. Yeah. Kind of an interesting game,

2447
01:44:12,000 --> 01:44:14,080
Speaker 3: you know, two teams trying to make a case. I

2448
01:44:14,160 --> 01:44:19,120
Speaker 3: feel like Battle of Florida. Yeah, that's a tough one.

2449
01:44:19,160 --> 01:44:21,519
Speaker 3: I I think they got a little mojo though in Tampa,

2450
01:44:21,560 --> 01:44:23,360
Speaker 3: and I'm not sure about Lawrence's hell, so I'm gonna

2451
01:44:23,400 --> 01:44:24,040
Speaker 3: go Tampa Tampa.

2452
01:44:24,600 --> 01:44:24,800
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2453
01:44:24,840 --> 01:44:27,679
Speaker 8: The Jags have lost three straight after that winning Trevor

2454
01:44:27,720 --> 01:44:31,040
Speaker 8: Lawrence right now, and I think he's playing, but he's playing,

2455
01:44:31,400 --> 01:44:32,960
Speaker 8: playing through it is what he's doing.

2456
01:44:34,400 --> 01:44:34,760
Speaker 1: I don't know.

2457
01:44:35,280 --> 01:44:38,320
Speaker 8: The Jaguars are the weird team. I don't know how

2458
01:44:38,360 --> 01:44:41,599
Speaker 8: to pick them. I'm gonna I'm gonna take the Jags

2459
01:44:41,640 --> 01:44:43,200
Speaker 8: in this game. I just think that they are a

2460
01:44:43,240 --> 01:44:45,960
Speaker 8: little bit more motivated. They have bigger aspirations. So I'm

2461
01:44:45,960 --> 01:44:46,719
Speaker 8: gonna take the Jags.

2462
01:44:47,160 --> 01:44:52,680
Speaker 1: Okay, I have, but.

2463
01:44:52,760 --> 01:44:55,519
Speaker 7: It's like, realistically, is Baker going to string together that

2464
01:44:55,960 --> 01:44:56,720
Speaker 7: wins in a row.

2465
01:44:57,080 --> 01:44:57,800
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know.

2466
01:44:58,040 --> 01:44:59,840
Speaker 3: Maybe I don't got a lot of bets.

2467
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:00,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. Wah.

2468
01:45:01,280 --> 01:45:03,400
Speaker 8: This is a tough one for Fred because like Baker

2469
01:45:03,560 --> 01:45:05,519
Speaker 8: and Trevor, it's like two of these guys.

2470
01:45:05,720 --> 01:45:07,360
Speaker 1: I know, let Baker bake.

2471
01:45:09,800 --> 01:45:12,360
Speaker 4: I've I've picked against the Bucks and I've been burned

2472
01:45:12,400 --> 01:45:16,240
Speaker 4: for it. So I guess I'll just ride with him. Buccaneers.

2473
01:45:16,439 --> 01:45:18,760
Speaker 1: Wow, all right, what is Polly saw?

2474
01:45:18,800 --> 01:45:19,479
Speaker 3: Is Tampa? Tampa?

2475
01:45:20,200 --> 01:45:22,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna go with the Jaguars in this game.

2476
01:45:22,760 --> 01:45:24,000
Speaker 1: I think they bounced back.

2477
01:45:26,479 --> 01:45:29,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's I went with Baker the one time Fred didn't.

2478
01:45:29,479 --> 01:45:30,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. Great, it's a.

2479
01:45:30,400 --> 01:45:33,240
Speaker 3: Tough box this week. I feel like she's wearing I.

2480
01:45:34,760 --> 01:45:34,800
Speaker 22: Know.

2481
01:45:34,960 --> 01:45:37,360
Speaker 1: I feel it's a toss up. This is a toss up.

2482
01:45:38,600 --> 01:45:41,559
Speaker 1: Four to twenty five on Fox. The three and eleven

2483
01:45:41,760 --> 01:45:44,160
Speaker 1: Cardinals are at the five and nine Bears.

2484
01:45:44,280 --> 01:45:48,240
Speaker 3: Oh, it's a top five game. It's the Chicago by four.

2485
01:45:49,600 --> 01:45:51,760
Speaker 1: Probably the most they've favored this year.

2486
01:45:51,840 --> 01:45:53,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, what a gross game.

2487
01:45:55,320 --> 01:45:59,160
Speaker 5: I'm not sure I'm gonna I'm gonna take Chicago, but

2488
01:45:59,200 --> 01:46:01,200
Speaker 5: I'm gonna split it. I'll take the easy points and

2489
01:46:01,320 --> 01:46:02,080
Speaker 5: see what happens.

2490
01:46:02,800 --> 01:46:05,880
Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't I don't love taking this many upsets.

2491
01:46:06,280 --> 01:46:08,280
Speaker 8: I kind of want to take the Cardinals in this

2492
01:46:08,400 --> 01:46:11,240
Speaker 8: game because I feel like even like forty five twenty

2493
01:46:11,360 --> 01:46:13,280
Speaker 8: nine against San Francisco is kind of like a win

2494
01:46:13,439 --> 01:46:15,839
Speaker 8: for the Cardinals, like that, you like, didn't get completely

2495
01:46:15,920 --> 01:46:21,000
Speaker 8: dismantled by the Niners. But yeah, I guess the Bears

2496
01:46:21,040 --> 01:46:24,040
Speaker 8: in that weather Dome team Cardinals. I'll take the Bears,

2497
01:46:24,080 --> 01:46:25,799
Speaker 8: but I'm gonna take the points for the Cardinals.

2498
01:46:27,760 --> 01:46:28,800
Speaker 4: I'll take the Bears out.

2499
01:46:28,760 --> 01:46:33,280
Speaker 3: Right, Okay, and Paul took the Bears Bears, and as

2500
01:46:33,320 --> 01:46:34,120
Speaker 3: I I will too.

2501
01:46:34,320 --> 01:46:38,200
Speaker 1: Bears Bears, uh four five on Fox ten and four

2502
01:46:38,360 --> 01:46:41,080
Speaker 1: Cowboys at the ten and four Dolphins.

2503
01:46:41,479 --> 01:46:42,320
Speaker 8: Okay, here.

2504
01:46:44,479 --> 01:46:47,880
Speaker 5: One after you know, Mike McDaniel taking all the blame

2505
01:46:48,000 --> 01:46:49,880
Speaker 5: and dropping f bombs left and right.

2506
01:46:50,760 --> 01:46:53,280
Speaker 3: Good game, though, I'm excited to watch a little bit

2507
01:46:53,320 --> 01:46:57,200
Speaker 3: of hopefully I'm gonna say, hm, damn, I'm gonna go

2508
01:46:57,280 --> 01:46:59,920
Speaker 3: with I'm gonna go with Miami at home both ways.

2509
01:47:00,000 --> 01:47:02,639
Speaker 8: Okay, Yeah, This is a tough one because both teams

2510
01:47:03,160 --> 01:47:07,840
Speaker 8: play a better home. But is Tyreek and play in

2511
01:47:07,920 --> 01:47:16,040
Speaker 8: this game? I don't think so. And yesterday, starting somebody tweeted,

2512
01:47:16,200 --> 01:47:18,200
Speaker 8: I'm sorry, I can't remember who. That just said the

2513
01:47:18,439 --> 01:47:21,840
Speaker 8: entire starting offensive line absent from practice. I didn't even

2514
01:47:21,920 --> 01:47:24,479
Speaker 8: name names, just said the entire start of Miami, Yeah,

2515
01:47:25,680 --> 01:47:29,120
Speaker 8: against Mike Michael Parsons in Dallas. So I'm gonna take Dallas.

2516
01:47:29,240 --> 01:47:32,520
Speaker 8: But I think mainly, you know, they don't travel well necessarily.

2517
01:47:32,640 --> 01:47:34,720
Speaker 8: But this isn't a cold weather game. This is just

2518
01:47:35,040 --> 01:47:36,759
Speaker 8: a road game. So I like Dallas.

2519
01:47:36,920 --> 01:47:37,559
Speaker 14: It's too hot.

2520
01:47:39,280 --> 01:47:43,160
Speaker 4: I kind of like Dallas to avengeless.

2521
01:47:42,560 --> 01:47:44,120
Speaker 3: Kind of not really.

2522
01:47:44,880 --> 01:47:45,600
Speaker 8: Are you married to it?

2523
01:47:45,880 --> 01:47:48,320
Speaker 4: No, I'm not. I wrote down the Dolphins, so you

2524
01:47:48,400 --> 01:47:48,600
Speaker 4: love it?

2525
01:47:48,680 --> 01:47:49,439
Speaker 3: Are you in love with it?

2526
01:47:49,439 --> 01:47:51,960
Speaker 4: It's settling. I'm settling.

2527
01:47:52,040 --> 01:47:52,600
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take that.

2528
01:47:52,720 --> 01:47:53,320
Speaker 4: I'm gonna take.

2529
01:47:53,200 --> 01:47:54,280
Speaker 3: Miami, Miami both ways.

2530
01:47:54,320 --> 01:47:56,360
Speaker 8: Oh, by the way, how is Nick's stake burrito?

2531
01:47:56,439 --> 01:47:59,880
Speaker 3: Yesterday was a little moldy? Miami Miami.

2532
01:48:00,080 --> 01:48:03,160
Speaker 1: Paul as well, I hate picking the Cowboys, but I

2533
01:48:03,280 --> 01:48:05,800
Speaker 1: have to here, Okay, So I am gonna go with

2534
01:48:05,840 --> 01:48:07,800
Speaker 1: the couch. Sounds like I'm gonna pick up some ground

2535
01:48:07,880 --> 01:48:11,400
Speaker 1: on Paul this one. You could we're gonna skip over

2536
01:48:12,040 --> 01:48:15,960
Speaker 1: the Patriots Sunday night and we're going to a triple

2537
01:48:16,040 --> 01:48:22,320
Speaker 1: header on Christmas Day, Monday, one o'clock on CBS. In Nickelodeon,

2538
01:48:22,760 --> 01:48:26,840
Speaker 1: they're gonna have this alternate version game on Nickelodeon.

2539
01:48:26,880 --> 01:48:28,679
Speaker 4: You guys made fun of me for the toy Story game.

2540
01:48:29,280 --> 01:48:30,760
Speaker 4: It was kind of awesome, was it?

2541
01:48:31,160 --> 01:48:35,200
Speaker 1: Okay? The six and eight Raiders are at the nine

2542
01:48:35,280 --> 01:48:35,839
Speaker 1: to five.

2543
01:48:35,800 --> 01:48:39,200
Speaker 5: Chiefs gonna be Chiefs by ten, which a big number,

2544
01:48:40,479 --> 01:48:42,320
Speaker 5: and I think, like, I don't know, I just wasn't

2545
01:48:42,360 --> 01:48:44,080
Speaker 5: all that impressed with Casey last week.

2546
01:48:44,120 --> 01:48:46,839
Speaker 3: I mean, Mahomes is awesome, but it seems like Kelsey's

2547
01:48:46,840 --> 01:48:48,639
Speaker 3: wearing down and they got some issues.

2548
01:48:48,640 --> 01:48:51,120
Speaker 5: So I'm gonna take Casey to win, but I'm gonna

2549
01:48:51,120 --> 01:48:52,960
Speaker 5: take those points in a divisional game, I think the

2550
01:48:53,120 --> 01:48:55,479
Speaker 5: Raiders are gonna play fast and loose and score some points.

2551
01:48:56,640 --> 01:48:59,760
Speaker 8: Yeah. So the Raiders scored sixty three points last week

2552
01:49:00,160 --> 01:49:02,080
Speaker 8: and the Chargers fired their head coach, so I'm not

2553
01:49:02,120 --> 01:49:05,080
Speaker 8: really sure how much that really matters. I really like

2554
01:49:05,520 --> 01:49:08,639
Speaker 8: the Chiefs in this game. They have like they're they're

2555
01:49:08,720 --> 01:49:10,760
Speaker 8: not as good as they usually are, but they still

2556
01:49:10,800 --> 01:49:12,840
Speaker 8: have that Patriots thing where like they just take care

2557
01:49:12,880 --> 01:49:15,599
Speaker 8: of business against bad teams. And I think the Chiefs

2558
01:49:15,640 --> 01:49:19,360
Speaker 8: win and I think they'll and cover. I think they cover,

2559
01:49:19,520 --> 01:49:21,880
Speaker 8: but like it's it's, you know, one of those that's

2560
01:49:21,960 --> 01:49:24,320
Speaker 8: like late that door. Yeah, I'm not really great cover,

2561
01:49:24,479 --> 01:49:27,040
Speaker 8: but a cover Chiefs, Chiefs.

2562
01:49:29,400 --> 01:49:31,400
Speaker 1: I'm tempted to take the points here, but I'm not

2563
01:49:31,479 --> 01:49:34,120
Speaker 1: gonna do it. I'm gonna take the Chiefs both ways.

2564
01:49:34,400 --> 01:49:39,760
Speaker 1: So all right, four thirty on Fox, the five and

2565
01:49:39,920 --> 01:49:42,799
Speaker 1: nine Giants are at the ten and four Eagles Modern

2566
01:49:43,280 --> 01:49:48,280
Speaker 1: Eagles by eleven and a half. Moron, that's a big one. Man.

2567
01:49:48,600 --> 01:49:50,680
Speaker 3: If this wasn't the Giants, I would probably take those

2568
01:49:50,760 --> 01:49:52,720
Speaker 3: points and think it was gonna be close. But I

2569
01:49:52,720 --> 01:49:53,000
Speaker 3: don't know.

2570
01:49:53,080 --> 01:49:54,680
Speaker 5: I just I feel like Phillies kind of do for

2571
01:49:54,920 --> 01:49:57,280
Speaker 5: for a get right kind of game. I think it

2572
01:49:57,360 --> 01:49:59,559
Speaker 5: might be today this one. So I'm gonna take Philly, Philly.

2573
01:50:00,280 --> 01:50:03,120
Speaker 8: I'm gonna take Philly, but I'm taking Tommy Cutlets to

2574
01:50:03,200 --> 01:50:04,080
Speaker 8: cover that spread.

2575
01:50:04,439 --> 01:50:04,840
Speaker 13: I am.

2576
01:50:05,120 --> 01:50:07,240
Speaker 8: I'm worried about the Eagles. The Eagles are.

2577
01:50:09,040 --> 01:50:09,559
Speaker 4: Gonna go off.

2578
01:50:09,680 --> 01:50:13,080
Speaker 8: Well. Apparently that it was like he hired a marketing agent.

2579
01:50:13,160 --> 01:50:13,519
Speaker 3: There you go.

2580
01:50:14,000 --> 01:50:15,800
Speaker 4: Oh so it wasn't his actual.

2581
01:50:17,240 --> 01:50:21,040
Speaker 8: The marketing correct like his player contract agent is still

2582
01:50:21,200 --> 01:50:22,880
Speaker 8: the guy that Paul knows that I don't know his name.

2583
01:50:23,000 --> 01:50:24,800
Speaker 3: Everybody getting the palm in the in the in the

2584
01:50:24,920 --> 01:50:25,639
Speaker 3: in the Yeah.

2585
01:50:25,760 --> 01:50:28,800
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think the Eagles are in real trouble. Their

2586
01:50:28,960 --> 01:50:33,120
Speaker 8: their offense is really simple. Uh, their defense is exposing

2587
01:50:33,160 --> 01:50:35,960
Speaker 8: the back end, and I think Tommy Cutletz keeps it

2588
01:50:36,120 --> 01:50:38,759
Speaker 8: at least within the spread of third. That's a big spread.

2589
01:50:39,000 --> 01:50:39,120
Speaker 1: Uh.

2590
01:50:39,240 --> 01:50:41,800
Speaker 8: Then the Giants have been playing decent football.

2591
01:50:41,479 --> 01:50:43,799
Speaker 4: So gotchas Eagles.

2592
01:50:45,160 --> 01:50:46,559
Speaker 3: Paul isles Eagles too.

2593
01:50:46,800 --> 01:50:51,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm very comfortable here taking the points. So it's Eagles,

2594
01:50:51,520 --> 01:50:55,559
Speaker 1: but I'm taking the points. Giants. Keep it under that number.

2595
01:50:56,880 --> 01:51:00,960
Speaker 1: Eight point fifteen. On ABC, ESPN plus esp and de Portes,

2596
01:51:01,800 --> 01:51:04,720
Speaker 1: the eleven and three Ravens are at the eleven and

2597
01:51:04,760 --> 01:51:08,280
Speaker 1: three forty nine Ers game. What a game.

2598
01:51:08,400 --> 01:51:11,720
Speaker 3: We're all going to be porked with food and presence.

2599
01:51:11,840 --> 01:51:18,479
Speaker 3: What's that pork? Sorry, no, no pork. I mean this

2600
01:51:18,600 --> 01:51:20,360
Speaker 3: interesting game. How we pick it? I'm gonna take. I'm

2601
01:51:20,360 --> 01:51:22,439
Speaker 3: gonna take San Francisco at home. I will lay the points.

2602
01:51:22,479 --> 01:51:23,840
Speaker 3: I think it'll be a good game. But I think

2603
01:51:23,880 --> 01:51:25,800
Speaker 3: San francisc will win six points more.

2604
01:51:26,760 --> 01:51:28,760
Speaker 8: I have to stay with the bit. So I'm going

2605
01:51:28,840 --> 01:51:31,800
Speaker 8: to take the Ravens in this game, upset special and

2606
01:51:32,280 --> 01:51:36,120
Speaker 8: this is the game. You know, Mike McDonald, the Ravens

2607
01:51:36,200 --> 01:51:39,040
Speaker 8: defensive coordinator, getting some love around the league. He's going

2608
01:51:39,080 --> 01:51:41,680
Speaker 8: to make brock Party look like mister irrelevant.

2609
01:51:41,760 --> 01:51:45,360
Speaker 3: You wish Ravens alex.

2610
01:51:45,320 --> 01:51:50,920
Speaker 7: Rock Party MVP securing game. Personally, I like Caffrey for it,

2611
01:51:51,080 --> 01:51:52,240
Speaker 7: but yeah.

2612
01:51:52,400 --> 01:51:55,000
Speaker 3: Is that why you like m He's got great apps?

2613
01:51:55,560 --> 01:51:56,040
Speaker 14: Oh my god?

2614
01:51:56,680 --> 01:51:59,880
Speaker 4: Professional professional Niners.

2615
01:51:59,600 --> 01:52:01,280
Speaker 3: Niners, Yeah, Paul's Niners, nine ers.

2616
01:52:01,560 --> 01:52:03,960
Speaker 4: Not to mention, I don't know the candle to Olivia Colblo.

2617
01:52:04,200 --> 01:52:07,760
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go Niners, but I'm saying that the

2618
01:52:07,920 --> 01:52:12,320
Speaker 1: Ravens cover. Yeah, all right, so there you go, there

2619
01:52:12,360 --> 01:52:15,040
Speaker 1: you go. All right. Now we move back to eight

2620
01:52:15,040 --> 01:52:19,519
Speaker 1: point fifteen on Christmas Eve. This game is on NFL network,

2621
01:52:19,760 --> 01:52:24,400
Speaker 1: so apparently because they gave NBC to Saturday, so they

2622
01:52:24,439 --> 01:52:27,080
Speaker 1: were willing to give up the Sunday night football game.

2623
01:52:27,600 --> 01:52:30,120
Speaker 1: So on NFL network, but locally here in New England,

2624
01:52:30,160 --> 01:52:31,519
Speaker 1: what a network is it on?

2625
01:52:32,880 --> 01:52:35,080
Speaker 3: I don't know, Probably be BZ right, Oh.

2626
01:52:35,080 --> 01:52:38,000
Speaker 1: Not necessarily, Oh it is it's CBS.

2627
01:52:38,200 --> 01:52:41,559
Speaker 4: Does a very confused what are you doing?

2628
01:52:42,080 --> 01:52:46,120
Speaker 1: What is it? Yeah?

2629
01:52:46,680 --> 01:52:51,879
Speaker 5: Okay, BC, I think all right, so I'm very convincing.

2630
01:52:52,760 --> 01:52:52,960
Speaker 16: BZ.

2631
01:52:53,160 --> 01:52:54,800
Speaker 3: I think it's definitely probably maybe.

2632
01:52:54,960 --> 01:52:58,679
Speaker 1: Yeah. So in the New England market, the Boston market,

2633
01:52:58,720 --> 01:53:00,760
Speaker 1: you can watch it on BZ. We have to watch

2634
01:53:01,360 --> 01:53:02,320
Speaker 1: an NFL network.

2635
01:53:03,360 --> 01:53:06,760
Speaker 5: Okay, Broncos six and a half, and I just I

2636
01:53:06,840 --> 01:53:08,720
Speaker 5: think this is a tough travel It's tough to play

2637
01:53:08,720 --> 01:53:10,400
Speaker 5: there for the Patriots generally, they got a bunch of

2638
01:53:10,439 --> 01:53:11,000
Speaker 5: new injuries.

2639
01:53:11,479 --> 01:53:14,160
Speaker 3: I think Denver is gonna roll in this game pretty easily.

2640
01:53:14,320 --> 01:53:16,599
Speaker 3: I got Denver both ways twenty seven to ten.

2641
01:53:17,560 --> 01:53:19,760
Speaker 8: Yeah, Deuce, I have Denver. I think it's a bad

2642
01:53:19,840 --> 01:53:23,519
Speaker 8: matchup for the Patriots. Aggressive blitz defense, a couple of

2643
01:53:23,520 --> 01:53:26,240
Speaker 8: good receivers, decent quarterback on the other side, against a

2644
01:53:26,280 --> 01:53:29,360
Speaker 8: banged up defense for the Patriots. I like the Broncos.

2645
01:53:30,280 --> 01:53:32,080
Speaker 8: I don't think it's gonna be that high scoring though.

2646
01:53:32,120 --> 01:53:37,360
Speaker 8: Maybe weather maybe cold. You know, I'll say Denver seventeen

2647
01:53:37,479 --> 01:53:42,439
Speaker 8: to six. Oh yeah, have fun with that on Christmas Eve,

2648
01:53:43,400 --> 01:53:44,280
Speaker 8: you have fun with it.

2649
01:53:45,640 --> 01:53:46,080
Speaker 1: I get.

2650
01:53:48,760 --> 01:53:57,240
Speaker 4: Fun having like delayed why because it would make for

2651
01:53:57,280 --> 01:53:58,080
Speaker 4: a good Radio.

2652
01:53:57,920 --> 01:54:01,800
Speaker 8: After I got hurt, complain Monday trouble.

2653
01:54:02,800 --> 01:54:11,519
Speaker 7: Broncos to win, Patriots covered really showing a little faith

2654
01:54:11,560 --> 01:54:14,599
Speaker 7: in the home team on the table company goals.

2655
01:54:14,800 --> 01:54:19,840
Speaker 3: Good for you Alex seventeen. Wow, all right boy?

2656
01:54:20,080 --> 01:54:23,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wish I had the faith that Alex does.

2657
01:54:23,760 --> 01:54:26,360
Speaker 1: Like I said in the roundup that do sent out.

2658
01:54:26,479 --> 01:54:29,000
Speaker 1: The Patriots had trouble winning in Denver when Tom Brady

2659
01:54:29,160 --> 01:54:34,600
Speaker 1: was the quarterback. Twenty four to ten Denver. That's where

2660
01:54:34,600 --> 01:54:36,520
Speaker 1: I'm living to they win by two touchdowns.

2661
01:54:36,720 --> 01:54:38,200
Speaker 8: Should we pick Celtics Lakers too?

2662
01:54:38,880 --> 01:54:39,080
Speaker 15: Oh?

2663
01:54:39,480 --> 01:54:40,320
Speaker 1: On Christmas Day?

2664
01:54:40,440 --> 01:54:41,880
Speaker 8: Christmas Day, five o'clock Celtics.

2665
01:54:42,040 --> 01:54:43,160
Speaker 1: What's the point spread?

2666
01:54:43,920 --> 01:54:44,640
Speaker 3: Household divide?

2667
01:54:44,800 --> 01:54:48,200
Speaker 1: How can we pick it? I get straight up, straight

2668
01:54:48,280 --> 01:54:53,880
Speaker 1: up Celtics go Team Green. All right, So that's it.

2669
01:54:54,320 --> 01:54:55,680
Speaker 8: That's by four and a half.

2670
01:54:56,240 --> 01:55:00,400
Speaker 1: This is our last show, Patriots Unfiltered Show before Christmas.

2671
01:55:01,240 --> 01:55:05,720
Speaker 1: Deuce and Paul Tamara and Hardy. We'll be back for

2672
01:55:05,880 --> 01:55:11,600
Speaker 1: the pregame show on Sunday six eight, six to eight,

2673
01:55:12,040 --> 01:55:14,160
Speaker 1: and then the postgame show, and then we'll be back

2674
01:55:14,200 --> 01:55:18,760
Speaker 1: on Tuesday after Christmas. See you then, thank thank you

2675
01:55:18,840 --> 01:55:20,200
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2676
01:55:20,480 --> 01:55:23,720
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2677
01:55:24,160 --> 01:55:26,200
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2678
01:55:26,480 --> 01:55:29,040
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2679
01:55:29,080 --> 01:55:32,360
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2680
01:55:32,400 --> 01:55:36,400
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