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Speaker 1: The San Antonio District judge resigns after a federal corruption probe.

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Speaker 2: A former San Antonio, Texas judge goes to federal prison

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Speaker 2: after pleading guilty to accepting bribes in exchange for rigging

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Speaker 2: cases in his court. Angus McGuinty committed the ultimate judicial sin.

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Speaker 2: Why did you do it?

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Speaker 3: I did it because I was foolish.

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Speaker 1: The John Nnick and Kenny Florian Podcasts.

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Speaker 3: Guy, John Nick, Kenny Florian. You want a podcast?

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Speaker 1: Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 4: Oh is it great to be back with you? It's

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Speaker 4: great to be in South Florida.

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Speaker 5: Twelve nights at the Residents Inn and back in Boca Ratona.

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Speaker 5: It's Moday, June twenty ninth, twenty twenty. Hell of a year.

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Speaker 5: This has been my God. It's episode two fifty six

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Speaker 5: of The Anikin Floor and Podcasts. Rocky Brazilian jiu Jitsu

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Speaker 5: is open. Keep your distance.

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Speaker 4: I see you wearing the letters today.

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Speaker 5: Kid, See how much canflow smiles when Jiu JITs is

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Speaker 4: It's unbelievable. I definitely need it in my life. Man.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we got the the AF monogram. I think Cody

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Speaker 5: Merrow calls this the monogram. We have the logo and

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Speaker 5: then the monogram. So we got the purple T shirt.

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Speaker 5: Wearing the mono today. Cody's actually at the controls today

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Speaker 5: and he's wearing the monogram T shirt as well.

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Speaker 4: So we appreciate that.

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Speaker 5: Anta florianpodcast dot com if you would like to get

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Speaker 5: in on the merchandise. But so, how was it opened

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Speaker 5: in the school? I mean, was it a little bit

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Speaker 5: weird those first few days.

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Speaker 6: It was a little bit weird. You know, people a

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Speaker 6: little hesitant. We have continued to kind of keep things

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Speaker 6: at a slower pace.

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Speaker 4: We do, you know, much shorter classes.

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Speaker 6: We're taking everybody's temperature as they walk in, you know,

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Speaker 6: all all these different things, so much short classes, you

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Speaker 6: only get one training partner. People are starting to kind

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Speaker 6: of get back into it and are starting.

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Speaker 4: To request more availability for classes.

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Speaker 6: We're still just doing, you know, just a couple offerings

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Speaker 6: at night, but you know, we want to wait for

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Speaker 6: these numbers to go down a little bit more before

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Speaker 6: we back to business as usual.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Florida smoking right now with COVID nineteen. I mean

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Speaker 5: that guy showing up to Maroki BJJ like hoping to

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Speaker 5: pop a fever so I could go home and not

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Speaker 5: get my ASST. You know, I mean being honest, right,

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Speaker 5: I mean there are always those things at summer camp

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Speaker 5: that I had to go do that were all out

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Speaker 5: of my comfort zone.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 4: It's like, all right, John, period six. It's riflery.

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Speaker 5: You don't look like you know how to handle a gun,

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Speaker 5: but you got to get up there, son, all right,

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Speaker 5: So a lot to get to.

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Speaker 4: I got a quick turn to Fight Island Abu Dhabi.

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Speaker 5: I'm actually flying to Vegas Sunday and I will quarantine

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Speaker 5: in Vegas for thirty six hours.

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Speaker 4: I'll take a COVID test and then chartering to Fight Island.

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Speaker 4: But a lot to recap.

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Speaker 5: We don't have a show to preview because the UFC

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Speaker 5: is dark on July fourth.

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Speaker 4: I know this is probably thankful for that, but a

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Speaker 5: Of course, Dustin Pourier and Dan Hooker turn in potentially

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Speaker 5: the fight of the year can flow. So we will

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Speaker 5: begin headlines with that Dustin the Diamond Pourier by unanimous decision.

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Speaker 5: I thought he was the winner of what was a

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Speaker 5: close fight. At least statistically, the numbers are pretty historic.

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Speaker 5: Three hundred and ninety strikes landed. That is a UFC

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Speaker 5: lightweight record. Poorier landed seventy six percent of his strikes

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Speaker 5: can flow in, moving into a tie for eighth on

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Speaker 5: if people were questioning me calling him a legend coming in,

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Speaker 5: this certainly adds to the resume your thoughts on the

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Speaker 4: Kid.

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Speaker 6: You know, I don't always love talking about the numbers,

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Speaker 6: but how can you ignore these amazing numbers, especially given

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Speaker 6: the fact that Pourier threw so many strikes and to

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Speaker 6: and by the way Hooker did as well, It's no

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Speaker 6: wonder it was one of the best fights I've ever seen.

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Speaker 6: Both those guys in their prime really showed up the

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Speaker 6: momentum shifts, the drama, the knockdowns, the close submissions by Poorier,

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Speaker 6: I think defense might have been lacking off, of course,

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Speaker 6: has next level toughness and again Hooker does as well.

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Speaker 6: He is as tough as they come. Pourier just a

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Speaker 4: You want, let's go.

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Speaker 6: He just he's got that dog in a man and

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Speaker 6: really does Again, Poorier is an absolute legend, man, what

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Speaker 6: a stud I was just blown away by his performance.

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Speaker 5: He might have had a mild cushion if you at

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Speaker 5: but next level toughness on both sides. I want to

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Speaker 5: spend a minute on Dan Hooker, because even though these

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Speaker 5: certainly has less miles on the tank. He was ten

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Speaker 5: He's had two absolute main event wars back to back

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Speaker 5: intimated to us Kenny that if this Pourier fight had

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Speaker 5: anything for his longevity. But I really like this kid.

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Speaker 5: He's a thoughtful fighter, he's a true martial artist. And

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Speaker 5: I guess I'm just curious how you feel about Hooker overall,

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Speaker 6: Hooker without a doubt. Now, listen, you kind of mentioned it.

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Speaker 6: Assuming he hasn't taken the kind of damage that is

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Speaker 6: you gotta believe he will get better anytime. I felt

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Speaker 4: Hooker will as well.

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Speaker 6: Going in there experiencing twenty five hard minutes against one

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Speaker 6: There's no doubt about it. I thought this was a

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Speaker 6: higher than his fight against Felder. I thought Hooker was

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Speaker 6: definitely looking better than he did in his last fight

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Speaker 6: I don't know if it was maybe him fading as

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Speaker 6: just showing there are levels of this game. But Hooker's

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Speaker 6: going to understand after that experience against Pourier, that he

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Speaker 6: either he's got to be more efficient, he's got to

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Speaker 6: in shape or all three. And those are the kind

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think you're right at least part of

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Speaker 4: It was all hard with Hookery.

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Speaker 5: I mean he was done after four and that fifth

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Speaker 5: some things he says, you know, but he truly is

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Speaker 5: not here to touch gloves with Paul Felder or make friends,

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Speaker 4: So there's a real good guy in there.

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Speaker 5: He goes to the interview zone and sits down, and

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Speaker 6: So and listen and every time he asked for these fights,

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Speaker 6: he's proving that he deserves that shot. It's not like

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Speaker 6: difference was just that insane toughness, extra bit of toughness

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Speaker 6: stances when he comes forward, where he's essentially landing a

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Speaker 6: that was catching. That was catching Hooker off guard repeatedly,

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Speaker 6: just again. Both those guys are studs, but Poorier just

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Speaker 5: A lot of people deserve credit. On the Poorier side,

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Speaker 5: it's truly team Porier. Mike Brown gets a bulk of it.

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Speaker 5: But Dia Davis, his boxing coach at the BOCO Boxing

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Speaker 5: lot of credit. So putting Poorier's UFC body of work

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Speaker 5: against Connor McGregor and Kabiebner Magometov. Right, But this win,

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Speaker 5: can't be overstated. Donald Cowboys Serni has twenty three wins.

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Speaker 5: for Lottory Gonzales and Platinum, Mike Perry as well Ken

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Speaker 6: So you know, listen, I think that Mike Perry absolutely

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Speaker 6: That guy hits way too hard and he's got a

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Speaker 6: You know, Mickey Gall has a knack for kind of

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Speaker 6: You know, whatever you think of about Mike Perry, you

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Speaker 6: Yeah, listen, he's He's extremely tough and he's always going

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Speaker 5: Right, And in terms of the post fight interview, I'm

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Speaker 4: Right, don't ask for it back. That's all the man saying.

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Speaker 4: I've been there where all of a sudden I made

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Speaker 4: And I think that's really important.

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Speaker 6: In the beginning of my career, I sparred maybe every day.

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Speaker 5: if he aligns with a world class camp and tries

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Speaker 5: to really do that consistently to see how far he

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Speaker 5: can potentially take this thing. All right, We'll have plenty

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Speaker 5: more on UFC Fight Night, Pourier Versus Hooker coming up

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Speaker 5: with Ray Longo, but I do just want to say

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Speaker 5: here in our opening segment, we talked a little bit

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Speaker 5: the promotion in the media last week. I just want

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Speaker 5: to let people know that Josh and I have hammered

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Speaker 5: it out privately. He reached out and apologized. I apologize

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Speaker 5: for maybe being a touch too sensitive, but the guy's

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Speaker 5: just total class to reach out to me privately in

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Speaker 5: the manner in which he did and acknowledge that his

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Speaker 5: criticism wasn't really being levied at the commentators as much

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Speaker 5: as it was maybe some other members of the media.

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Speaker 5: So we truly appreciate that to acknowledge that off the top.

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Speaker 5: We'll get to the poll question later in the show.

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Speaker 5: We ask you on social media of the three betting

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Speaker 5: underdogs and the title fights at UFC two fifty one,

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Speaker 5: Max Holloway, Gilbert Orino Burns and Jose Auto all similarly priced,

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Speaker 5: which underdog has the best chance to win. So we'll

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Speaker 5: get to those results with Ian Parker later in the program.

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Speaker 5: But it is time for the parade man the Ray

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Speaker 3: He is now time for the Ray Longo Minute.

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Speaker 8: And I'm gonna question a whole in this fucking shut

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Speaker 8: that's a long mark the Ray Longo Minute story.

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Speaker 4: The John Nick and Kenny Florian Podcast.

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Speaker 5: All right, we are now enjoined by Ray Longo, who

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Speaker 5: is so gracious to break off some time for us today.

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Speaker 5: You must not have a parade schedule.

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Speaker 8: About a bait, John, so I might not be able

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Speaker 8: to do the senterm you Teddy.

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Speaker 7: I can't get my eyes off his mustache. I might,

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Speaker 7: I might actually.

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Speaker 4: Sell you know it's interesting.

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, well you a big Freddie Mercury fan.

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Speaker 4: Gro Yeah, it's done. I inspired long ago.

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Speaker 5: Come on, gosh, people making a big deal about a mustache.

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Speaker 5: I mean, if this was nineteen eighty eight, this this

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Speaker 5: certainly wouldn't be a point of conversation. Is that what

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Speaker 5: you want to talk about?

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Speaker 4: The mustache? Magna Pi. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Well, uh, I think the mustache will be coming with

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Speaker 5: me to Abu Dhabi, but we'll just have to see

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Speaker 5: about that.

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Speaker 7: It's gonna have its own suitcase, I assume so.

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Speaker 5: Uh So, Morob Dwallash Willie and al Jamaine Sterling get

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Speaker 5: these great parades with poster board and a line of cars,

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Speaker 5: and and John Belonte gets Chris Wyman an ally a

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Speaker 5: Quinta on a tricycle.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that was brilliant, by the way, so.

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Speaker 4: Good you're the man.

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Speaker 7: How appropriate?

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Speaker 4: That was perfect? It was perfect? So that was fine.

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Speaker 8: He got his favorite people for the parade. What else

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Speaker 8: can I do to show him just a little low, just.

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Speaker 5: A little I think like a half a million people

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Speaker 5: ended up seeing that little parade roop, So obviously.

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Speaker 4: It was effective.

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Speaker 5: And John Blante was pretty effective in the UFC heavyweight debut, right,

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Speaker 5: I know, as ken Fler was saying offline, certainly paced

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Speaker 5: himself and then got choked out in a position that

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Speaker 5: I think surprised a lot of people.

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Speaker 4: But what were your thoughts on your guy Belante there

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Speaker 4: at heavyweight?

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Speaker 7: Uh, let me just say this before we start.

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Speaker 8: I'm gonna say he's the only guy that I'll take

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Speaker 8: my shirt off in Toronto.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 8: Any sense to end the body, but I feel very

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Speaker 8: secure walking around with my shirt off.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I go listen. He was throwing fire Man.

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Speaker 7: He was gonna win that fight. Uh.

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Speaker 8: I guess it was really just exhaustion. You know, the

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Speaker 8: guy could have mounted I mean, I don't know. There

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Speaker 8: was a lot of things missing, but he did hit

545
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Speaker 8: him with a nice left took off of that Superman punch,

546
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Speaker 8: and he put the guy down. And I'll tell you what,

547
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Speaker 8: you did see a different Volante when he heard him.

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Speaker 7: He did get excited.

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Speaker 8: He threw He definitely had some decent grounding pound, but

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Speaker 8: you know, when your cardio is not there, it just

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Speaker 8: it kind of sucks. And I don't know if the

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Speaker 8: pandemic heard him, or what heard him, or the extra

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Speaker 8: what the extra way mean, it didn't look good, so

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Speaker 8: I would say that had something to.

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Speaker 7: Do with it. But he did show us.

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Speaker 8: You know, he could have ended that that fight could

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Speaker 8: ended and he would have been a hero, you know

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Speaker 8: what I mean. So it kind of sucks that it

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Speaker 8: went out that way.

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Speaker 7: But it looked like it was just pure exhaustion to me.

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Speaker 8: You know, he had a head an arm choke, I guess,

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Speaker 8: and it's tough to finish from the bottom.

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Speaker 7: I don't know. I'm not a jiu jitsu guy, but

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Speaker 7: it didn't look.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, yeah, I think it was a legit

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Speaker 6: a legitimate choke. He just ended up in the wrong

567
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Speaker 6: position at the wrong time, and you know, he wasn't

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Speaker 6: seeing it being set up. Green tried maybe two ties

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Speaker 6: before that to try to get it going. But it's

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Speaker 6: such a strong wedge that once you get it in

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Speaker 6: from almost any position, it's definitely gonna do damage as

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Speaker 6: far as the choke is concerned, and it will put

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Speaker 6: you to sleep. But Ray, I wanted to ask you,

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Speaker 6: is there anything that you know you saw in there

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Speaker 6: that indicates that he's either going to go back down

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Speaker 6: to two oh five or will stay at heavyweight.

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Speaker 4: What are your thoughts on that?

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Speaker 8: I think just looking at it, obviously it's not my decision,

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Speaker 8: but i'd like to see he's not going to go

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Speaker 8: back to two oh five. I don't believe, but I

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Speaker 8: don't have to see a better I'd like to see

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Speaker 8: a two forty five Volante in shape, you know what

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Speaker 8: I'm saying forty Because he's a big kid. You could

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Speaker 8: see Green a huge size advantage and it didn't bother them.

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Speaker 8: I mean, the guy's got a he's got a great chin,

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Speaker 8: he throws hard. He's just got to be a little more,

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Speaker 8: you know, he's got to be a little more active.

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Speaker 8: You know, he can't just he was plotting around, but

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Speaker 8: he was carrying a lot of weight. I mean, two

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Speaker 8: fifty five is fifty pounds heavier than his last fight.

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Speaker 7: It's crazy.

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Speaker 6: And he's fast for the division. He's a good athlete,

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Speaker 6: you could see that. And if he could bring that

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Speaker 6: athleticism be in better shape, he could definitely do some

595
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Speaker 6: damage at heavyweight.

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Speaker 8: So I mean, I would just like to see him

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Speaker 8: make the commitment to do exactly what you just said.

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Speaker 8: Get back to you know, let's try to make a

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Speaker 8: go get back to Valante on the grid ion, you

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Speaker 8: know what I mean, and.

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Speaker 7: Just get two forty in shape, throwing heat like that.

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Speaker 7: I'll tell you why.

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Speaker 8: You never know, but I don't think he's going to

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Speaker 8: two o five. But again, I'm not his coach, so

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Speaker 8: he'll know. And you know, listen, it was a heartbreaking

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Speaker 8: because I really thought he was winning that fight, and

607
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Speaker 8: it was everybody was pulling for that kid. Everybody loves him,

608
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Speaker 8: but he's got to love himself and he's got to

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Speaker 8: really really make a decision as to what he wants

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Speaker 8: to do. But I thought he showed signs of something

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Speaker 8: that was possibly pretty good moving forward.

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Speaker 5: So it's been a tough couple of years. His last

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Speaker 5: fight was early twenty nineteen. He got in pneumonia like

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Speaker 5: seven times. Between that fight and this fight. He has

615
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Speaker 5: pretty serious asthma. He had a bacterial infection. He became

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Speaker 5: a father for the first time in December. I know

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Speaker 5: this sounds like excuses, but you're right.

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Speaker 4: Ray. If he weighs two.

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Speaker 5: Hundred and forty pounds like he did when he was

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Speaker 5: murdering people on the gridiron as a senior at Hostra,

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Speaker 5: he's a real problem. This is one of the best

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Speaker 5: football players to ever grace the octagon.

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Speaker 4: True he is.

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Speaker 5: I mean, Eric Anders has the national championship, but this

625
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 5: dude was like a five star recruit. He was a

626
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Speaker 5: true All American. Excuse me, he was an All American

627
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Speaker 5: as a true freshman. Kenny, You're right, there is no

628
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Speaker 5: doubt that if he can unleash this athlete, even though

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Speaker 5: he's thirty five that he can be irrelevant heavyweight for sure.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, he's got to believe it himself.

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Speaker 8: I mean, I think that's the thing knowing him, and

632
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Speaker 8: I tell you he's really embracing fatherhood beautifully. He's just

633
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Speaker 8: a good dude and people really want to see him

634
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Speaker 8: do good. But he's really now got to put in

635
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Speaker 8: the right effort if he wants to do anything. If

636
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Speaker 8: you know, he's got to really put in a really

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Speaker 8: solid effort. And I'm gonna say probably more mentally than

638
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Speaker 8: even physically. And even though that sounds crazy, but I'd

639
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Speaker 8: love to see that guy is to do a complete turnaround

640
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Speaker 8: because he is tough as nails, man, and you know,

641
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Speaker 8: like again, I'm just look at look at the size difference,

642
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Speaker 8: and like you say, he was smashing those leg kicks.

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Speaker 7: He was shifting that guy all.

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Speaker 8: Over the place, and uh, you know whatever, man, I

645
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Speaker 8: thought he was on his way.

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Speaker 7: Everybody was happy. He's just he's a heartbreaker, you know

647
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Speaker 7: what I mean.

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Speaker 8: It just it's it stinks because trust me, everybody loves

649
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 8: that guy and that that part sucks, but.

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Speaker 7: It is what it is.

651
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Speaker 8: And until he really makes the decision himself, it's going

652
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Speaker 8: to be a tough road.

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Speaker 5: What do you think of platinum? Mike Perry, I'm all in.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I am all let.

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Speaker 8: Me tell you some the best interview ever. Every Kenny

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Speaker 8: reminded me of Boogie Knights. No No, I get the money,

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Speaker 8: then I give you the money, and then you give

658
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Speaker 8: him to no No. I mean, what is the I

659
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 8: I takes the John, I go, man.

660
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 7: I really believe.

661
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 8: Those irs negotiations are going to go really good for him.

662
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 8: Imagine him sitting down with the order to what are

663
00:28:58,320 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 8: you talking about?

664
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 7: You gave me the money, I gotta.

665
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 4: Give you the money exactly.

666
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 7: I think I like where he's coming from. Yeah, give

667
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 7: me the money, I spend it. That's it and my story.

668
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 5: And if you are talking Ray with a minimum of

669
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 5: one fights, his chief corner of the Tory, Gonzalez has

670
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 5: as high a winning percentage in the UFC this year

671
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 5: as any head coach out there.

672
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 8: So well, I think Aloia quint has got to beat.

673
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 8: Quint has got he's.

674
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 4: Two and oh three and O what does he have?

675
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 4: Two three?

676
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 7: I guess that's different people.

677
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, but she did.

678
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 7: Listen, she did a fantastic job. She really did.

679
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 8: She put the ice on his back and gave words

680
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 8: of encouragement. Listen, for a guy like that, you know

681
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 8: what he's gonna do. I don't think there's much change

682
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 8: in his game plan.

683
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 7: You know what they mean? Think about it, so kind

684
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 7: of makes sense.

685
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 5: And he, as he mentioned he studied Mickey gall he

686
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 5: felt like he knew what he needed to do in

687
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 5: certain situations. And uh, he was far more conditioned, as

688
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 5: I said to Kenny than he wanted to let anyone know.

689
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 4: Flow.

690
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 6: I'm being serious here, but I imagine as a fighter

691
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 6: running your own camp, you're your own coach, You're only

692
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 6: bringing one corner person who is your girlfriend.

693
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 4: I mean, like.

694
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 6: Literally the confidence that he must get coming up of

695
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 6: his fight, managing his own camp, his own fight.

696
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 4: Like it's all it should only get better from here

697
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:16,239
Speaker 4: on out.

698
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 7: Right You assume, Yeah, Kenny, I'm going out on a limb.

699
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 8: But I'm saying, even when he had a coach, he

700
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 8: was running his own you know what I mean. I

701
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,239
Speaker 8: think that's what we would. I think that's exactly what

702
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 8: we saw, you know, I think that's the problems.

703
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 7: Okay, he was in the same boat. He was in

704
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 7: no matter who was there. That's off. He did fight

705
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 7: a great fight.

706
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 8: And I got to tell you, I think he's another

707
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 8: guy that when he tells you something, he's pretty honest,

708
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 8: you know what I mean. He didn't even if you

709
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 8: even notice when they were asking about his girlfriend again,

710
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 8: he was saying, look, I'm looking for a team he could.

711
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 8: He wasn't even guaranteeing she's gonna be there, you know

712
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 8: what I mean. That guys are for real, dude, for

713
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 8: for sure, So you have to love him for that.

714
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 8: But man, I get a kick out of some of

715
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 8: those guys when when you really get inside their brain

716
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 8: and hear what's going on.

717
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 7: It's funny that I r rest then killed me. All right, Well,

718
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 7: it's great.

719
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 5: And with all respect to Mickey gall who I really

720
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 5: appreciate as a human being, and I hope he makes

721
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 5: the necessary developments as a fighter. But I think if

722
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 5: Mike Perry is fighting somebody in the top ten, he's

723
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 5: going to have a head coach in there. And he

724
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 5: intimated Kenny to your point that Litorigansal is probably not

725
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 5: gonna be in his corner for.

726
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,479
Speaker 7: His next night. So he was very honest.

727
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, So we'll see if he ends up with Ray

728
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 5: Longo in Garden City. But I think he wants somewhere

729
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 5: where he can go to a beach and drink of

730
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 5: my tie. And I don't know that it qualifies up

731
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 5: there many months a year.

732
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 7: So see, he certainly got the toughness man.

733
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 5: So now is not the time to have the fight

734
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 5: of the year conversation. And I do believe in December

735
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 5: most people are going to land on jong Way Lee

736
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 5: versus Joanna, You and j Check. But Dustin Poorier and

737
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 5: Dan Hooker. Ray, what'd you think of that main event

738
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 5: that'll keep you up on the East coast?

739
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 8: Huh wow, I gotta tell you, man, I came out

740
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 8: of my skin. Look, I'm saying I'm not going fight

741
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 8: at the year, but I'll tell you one thing.

742
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 7: Round two one hundred rounded a lock. I think that's

743
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 7: a lock.

744
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 8: But the fight of the year, I think Joanna's fight,

745
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 8: because it was back and forth for five rounds, makes

746
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 8: that that's where I'm looking at.

747
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 7: I agree Hooker really just faded in four and five.

748
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 7: So but round two, round of the year.

749
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 8: I put that pretty not not up there with like

750
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 8: Hagler against Herns, but it was pretty fucking close.

751
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 4: Well.

752
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 6: I think that's what made the fight so interesting too,

753
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 6: was that round two, because you're watching round two and

754
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 6: you go, there's no way, there's no way.

755
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 4: This thing goes to decision.

756
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 6: One of these guys are getting finished, there's no doubt

757
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 6: about it. And you see it go five rounds and

758
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 6: you're it was unbelievable, believable.

759
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 8: I just think for fight of the year, like fight,

760
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 8: it had to be five solid rounds, and I think, like, again, look, poorie,

761
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 8: I gotta tell you, man, I really gained a lot

762
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 8: of respect for him.

763
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 7: Man.

764
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 8: He really remained calm underpression. This is the difference in

765
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 8: the fight.

766
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 7: To me. He was able to just roll with that.

767
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 8: Ship and act like nothing was going going on and

768
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 8: come back, where as the other guy was wearing that

769
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 8: stuff on his face.

770
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 7: For sure.

771
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 8: I mean he took some huge body shots in the

772
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 8: second round, like he's not gonna make it, He's gonna

773
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 8: end this fight. I really thought Hooker was gonna win

774
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 8: the fight at that point in time. And the fact

775
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 8: that he was able to come back and again nonchalant

776
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 8: in the corner, having a good time, looked like he

777
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 8: was with it.

778
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 7: He you know, he was very coherent. I thought he

779
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 7: did a.

780
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 8: Fantastic job against the Cajea just weather in that storm

781
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 8: and was able to come back with big shots.

782
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 7: To me, is the difference in the fight Diamond.

783
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 4: The Diamond nickname is appropriate, no doubt about it.

784
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 8: And those body shots were brutal I got. You know,

785
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 8: hook is a tough guy. Look, three round fight he wins,

786
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 8: but it looks like the five rounds the last couple

787
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 8: of fights is killing him because he took his Felder

788
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 8: came back, he fell to easy. I don't even know

789
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 8: if I think I had failed to win in that fight.

790
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 8: But a three round fighter, he's really tough, but five

791
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 8: rounds looks like he's I thought, Look, I picked Hook

792
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 8: it a win based on I thought he was going

793
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 8: to correct the endurance thing for the last couple of rounds,

794
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 8: Like if he could have kept up that pace, even

795
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 8: fifty percent of that, he would have won that fight.

796
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 7: But he couldn't and he well, and that was the

797
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 7: difference to me.

798
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 8: You know, I thought he was going to make the

799
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 8: adjustment off to Felder fight, but maybe it was too quick,

800
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 8: you know turn around.

801
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,280
Speaker 5: I don't know, And I do agree that the Hooker

802
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,879
Speaker 5: fade probably prevents it from being the fight of the.

803
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 7: Year for me, John, But I unbelievable.

804
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I think I articulated as much on the broadcast.

805
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 5: That's the best singular round I think I have seen

806
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 5: all year, unless, like without that, what out a doubt

807
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 5: that what hooker. I do believe though, that him eating

808
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 5: all those big shots Ray was a byproduct of the

809
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 5: cardio fade.

810
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 4: You know, I just think shots, you know.

811
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 8: Because if you even look John, you know, his range

812
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 8: in the first couple of rounds was perfect, and then

813
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 8: you start you started seeing that range or if you

814
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,720
Speaker 8: want to cool distance management, whatever you want to call it,

815
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 8: it just started to get closer and closer. He couldn't

816
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 8: hold it, and it afforded the other guy to get

817
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 8: be able to get off big shots, and like you say,

818
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 8: he just couldn't deal with it, and that was that

819
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 8: was it. If he could hold that range, because he

820
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 8: look at the size difference. I mean, come on, I mean, really,

821
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 8: hats off to Dustin poorier Man be saying me, he

822
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 8: seems like.

823
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 7: A great guy.

824
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 8: I don't know him, yeah, but I I I respect

825
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 8: wise based on that fight went up a lot.

826
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 7: Man, I thought he did three. He really seems like

827
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 7: a good guy.

828
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 8: He's got a lot of good causes stands for the

829
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 8: right ship.

830
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 7: Hats off to that guy, man, and then Hooker tough.

831
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 8: Is a motherfucker for sure, but you know he's got

832
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 8: to correct that the cardio problem in those type of

833
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 8: fights where there's an early you know, output like that.

834
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 5: So before we let you go, what can you tell

835
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 5: us about your future? Paul Felder, it looks like just

836
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 5: pushed out a tweet saying that you know he was

837
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 5: motivated to come out of retirement by Poorier and Hooker,

838
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 5: but for now fight Island to wait, to which raging

839
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 5: Ali Quinter responded and Cody Marray, I hope I'm getting

840
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 5: this right, but ala Quinter responded, well, I agreed to

841
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:09,399
Speaker 5: fight you August fifteenth. So it seems as though al

842
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 5: was offered to fight against Eelder August fifteenth, but Paul

843
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 5: will be going to fight Island and therefore not accepting

844
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 5: that fight.

845
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 4: But do you know when you are leaving.

846
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 5: New York to either do something or corner a fighter

847
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 5: or is it status quo on your end?

848
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 4: Man?

849
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 8: I got to tell you, I'm really leaning bad. This

850
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 8: is I'm just so fucking confused. It's you know, I

851
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 8: got it. I have to stay off the television that's

852
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 8: the first thing, because I every time I watch the news,

853
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 8: I go I'm swinging from side to side.

854
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,720
Speaker 7: But I want to go for Wideman's fight August eighth.

855
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 8: Okay, so I think if that's the case, I'll get tested.

856
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 7: He is.

857
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 8: I want to just know I'm good. I don't want

858
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 8: to get stuck in Vegas for two weeks. Yeah, of course,

859
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 8: you know for Vola, when I talked to him, he

860
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,240
Speaker 8: was driving back to Florida to thirty seven hours.

861
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 7: Say let him fly, So that ain't crazy, you know

862
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 7: what I mean?

863
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 8: So yeah, and this thing is getting weird to me, man,

864
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 8: I like again, I don't even know if anybody else

865
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 8: is feeling it. But you know they're not opening the

866
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 8: beaches here on Fourth of Joy. This is it's a

867
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 8: year of your life almost.

868
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 5: This is crazy well, and it could go deep into

869
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 5: twenty twenty one. And I know a lot of our

870
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 5: audience didn't tune in for this. But it's amazing the

871
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 5: range of respect for this virus.

872
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 4: Right.

873
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 5: Some people just have no respect for it at all,

874
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 5: and some people are doing what the government is telling

875
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 5: us to do. But uh Buthoopa is stuck in Vegas until.

876
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 4: July ninth quarantining. You know, this shit is real.

877
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 5: And again, I think for a lot of us going

878
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 5: to fight Island, my biggest concern is that I'm going

879
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 5: to get stuck in the Middle East, away from my family.

880
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 8: For without a doubt so and I can't afford to

881
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 8: do that right now, right of course, I mean that

882
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 8: would be a disaster. Plus we've been in for so

883
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 8: long now. Yeah, I don't think if I could last

884
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 8: two weeks of my house with all the amenities that

885
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 8: I have, you want to stick me much, I might

886
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 8: crack complete.

887
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 7: So I don't know.

888
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 8: Yeah, right, my original thought is I'm going, but I

889
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 8: don't know that could I could change, man.

890
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:56,919
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know. I just you know, I want

891
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:57,439
Speaker 7: to be there.

892
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 8: It kind of sucks for me because I'm being it's

893
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 8: not you know, it's not my own decision, like you

894
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 8: know what I'm saying, Like I'm forced it to some

895
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 8: decisions that that was never the way I ran my life,

896
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,439
Speaker 8: and it kind of kind of sucks me. I'm trying

897
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 8: to do the right thing. I don't know, So I'm

898
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 8: running around in circles. I don't know, but I in

899
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 8: my head, I want to be there. August date for

900
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 8: Chris and the foul fight. It's August fifteenth, one hundred percent.

901
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 8: So I got some big decisions to make. I don't

902
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 8: even know at this point. I don't even know if

903
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 8: they want me to.

904
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 4: Of course they want you there.

905
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 5: Last thingast thing I'll say, last thing I'll say, because

906
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 5: I think it's kind of interesting. So I took a

907
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 5: COVID nineteen test Friday at eight pm Eastern, okay, five Pacific.

908
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,720
Speaker 5: I got my results back at about two pm Eastern

909
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,800
Speaker 5: on Saturday. Okay, So here we are Monday, right, about

910
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 5: forty eight hours later. So my mom ain't coming near me, right,

911
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 5: she's almost seventy ain't coming near me or my kids

912
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 5: because I was on a plane the day after with

913
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,320
Speaker 5: a mask on the whole time, right, And I agree

914
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 5: with her decisions. Yeah, but I did get tested and

915
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,439
Speaker 5: I was negative, and yet, out of an abundance of caution,

916
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 5: she's coming nowhere near my kids. When I leave here

917
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 5: and finish the podcast, I will have a mask on downstairs.

918
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 5: And I didn't take a test when I got home

919
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 5: because I got to turn around and go back to

920
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 5: Vegas in a few days.

921
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 4: But it's, uh, it's a real thing.

922
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 6: Man, are there any studies, Are there any studies with

923
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 6: the stash being able to defend against COVID nineteen or

924
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 6: anything where it catches the germ. It catches the German,

925
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 6: and then the stash kills the COVID.

926
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 7: You know what that that day, that that catches me.

927
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 8: I mean, COVID is like it catches my Tenny exactly.

928
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 3: It's Therman Monk John's ahead of the curve up here.

929
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 7: Yes, who was the catcher for Boston in the eighties.

930
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 4: Rich Gedman?

931
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 5: Now, but ten in your program number one, Oh you're

932
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 5: talking about Carlton Fisk the nineteen seventies.

933
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 8: I think, yeah, yeah, that's that's like like it catches

934
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 8: myth but look at it looking at but uh, listen,

935
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 8: the problem was with I'm happy that your mother do

936
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 8: do the right thing because you you could be asymptomatic.

937
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 7: Too, and you might have tested negative then. But in

938
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 7: the week this is the crazy part.

939
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 4: I can't keep up. Hey, I the science, the science.

940
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,240
Speaker 7: You know what, Kenny, I'm already dropping my garden.

941
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 8: I'm not happy about it because I just I don't

942
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 8: know what I gotta I gotta regroup.

943
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 5: Well, no, full disclosure. I did go out to eat

944
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,760
Speaker 5: with Michael Bisping and Dominic Cruz, and we we were careful.

945
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 5: But I hadn't been to a restaurant in a while,

946
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 5: and I just said. I didn't say fuck it, but

947
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 5: I just said, you know what, I've been at the

948
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 5: residence in I've got thirteen grub Hub orders in the

949
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 5: last ten days.

950
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 8: It's time to get I went to a restaurant the

951
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 8: other day and I ate my head gloves on.

952
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 7: I ate my food with my hand because I didn't

953
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 7: want to touch the forks and knives. People thought I

954
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 7: was weird.

955
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, hey, whatever it was.

956
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 6: It was at sharing French fries with Bisping, John by

957
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 6: the way.

958
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 7: And it was tough getting the food through the mask too.

959
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 7: That wasn't easy.

960
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've tried to drink coffee through a mask and

961
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 5: then well, I'm getting a text from my mom right now.

962
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 5: She wants to know if if Ray Long goes single.

963
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 6: Oh mom, alright, I'm back haircut, it'll be all over.

964
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 5: So can you put that in a bun yet? Can

965
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 5: you put that on a ponytail yet?

966
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 4: Yes?

967
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 7: I don't know what I'm we.

968
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 4: Got to do it.

969
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,280
Speaker 7: Ray come on, hey, listen, let's keep it on your mustache.

970
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 8: Let's leave my cot there's a new sheriff in town,

971
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 8: and it's John Anick's mustache.

972
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 6: Not Yeah, it's a little rattail from the eighties ray tail.

973
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 4: That's what I'm talking about.

974
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 5: Hey, we'll see you August eighth and Vegas and we'll

975
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:32,839
Speaker 5: talk to you next Monday.

976
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 7: In my Man, some guys always great. Man, you make

977
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:35,399
Speaker 7: my day.

978
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 5: I realized, man, seriously, the great, very long ago. Every

979
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 5: Monday here on the Anakin Florian Podcast.

980
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 4: What a good egg that guy is. What a good egg.

981
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 5: I've made a lot of bad decisions in my life.

982
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 5: It was a good one putting him on the podcast,

983
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,479
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Speaker 4: All right, well, we kind of said we might be

1012
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 4: dark this week with our producer. TJ.

1013
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 5: Destant is not available, but Cody Merrow has taken the

1014
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 5: reins and we wanted to h to bring on the

1015
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,400
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1016
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 4: It's good to see him. I'm man.

1017
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, I don't When you said go dark, I

1018
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 3: was upset. I can't go a week without seeing both

1019
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,839
Speaker 3: of you guys, and I almost I almost cried a little,

1020
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 3: And then I got that Texas morning, I was like, Monday, Yes,

1021
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 3: let's go.

1022
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 4: All right, So a lot to get to with you.

1023
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 5: We want to sort of continue our recap of UFC

1024
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 5: Fight Night Pourier versus Hooker, and I want to start

1025
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 5: with John Belante because you guys go way back. I

1026
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 5: know you texted me at one point in time that

1027
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 5: strikeforce was even higher on this kid than Chris Widman,

1028
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 5: that he was all the rage at one point in time.

1029
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 5: We outlined his football credentials earlier on the show. But

1030
00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 5: your thoughts overall on Belante and uh and this UFC

1031
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 5: heavyweight debut this past weekend.

1032
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny, you know when you go back to

1033
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 3: someone like John Blonte, he was the light heavyweight headyweight

1034
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 3: champ of the Rand Combat like we spoke about briefly

1035
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 3: last weekend when Bob Cook called me about strike for

1036
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 3: us to fight Chad Griggs on the main card of

1037
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 3: Fador Versus Bigfoot. That was the start of Valonte's career.

1038
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 3: Listen with John Belonte. He obviously did not look like

1039
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 3: his usual self coming into this fight. I mean when

1040
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 3: we talk about going up to heavyweight, when I heard

1041
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 3: he was coming at two fifty five, I was concerned

1042
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 3: all because he already has a big physique, you know.

1043
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 3: I think he walks around between two point thirty in

1044
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 3: that range, so the cut to two o five is

1045
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 3: still not easy for him. But you see a lot

1046
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 3: of guys that go up in wait they still look healthy.

1047
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 3: I will say John did not look like he put

1048
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 3: on a healthy wait for this fight, you know. And

1049
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 3: you saw during the fight there was a lot of

1050
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,839
Speaker 3: opportunities to obviously win that second round. The leg kick

1051
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:55,839
Speaker 3: was coming in, but he wasn't able to follow up

1052
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 3: with any combos and those leg kicks were hurting Moo Green.

1053
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 3: Long story short here, It's really hard to watch a

1054
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 3: guy like that, who was such a highly tied prospect

1055
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 3: who's got the wrestling credentials, the athletic background and the striking,

1056
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,800
Speaker 3: and he's got a good team behind him. He trimbles

1057
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 3: a very good coach. I don't know if it was

1058
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 3: exhaustion that got to John. I know that choke was

1059
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 3: in with Maury' screen, but you gotta think and if

1060
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 3: you go back and watch that fight, I've watched the

1061
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 3: whole cart.

1062
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:20,280
Speaker 7: A few times.

1063
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 3: He put every ounce of every part of his meat

1064
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 3: that he put on into those bunches. In the third round,

1065
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:28,879
Speaker 3: I think the chokeho was in, but I also think

1066
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 3: he just had enough. I don't know if he was

1067
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 3: gonna be able to make another two minutes.

1068
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 4: So it's a sad sight to see.

1069
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 3: Without rambling on about this, I think I think hennyweight

1070
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 3: though he could do a rite, but that he's got

1071
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 3: to work on his conditioning. Obviously that was rough, ken Fill.

1072
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 5: A lot of people saw Valante at the stare down

1073
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 5: and race to the window to bet on Maury's screen,

1074
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 5: and they were a minute and sixteen seconds away from

1075
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 5: probably losing all of those bets. I mean, I was

1076
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 5: getting people texting me every single parlay Kenny they were

1077
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 5: playing that night.

1078
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 4: You two and had Mary's screen didn't there. I mean,

1079
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 4: you gotta be careful betting this sport, you know, no

1080
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 4: doubt about it.

1081
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 6: Man, that was scary for a lot of people who

1082
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 6: had money on Moray screen and listen. I thought Velante,

1083
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 6: most likely because he didn't come into to that fight

1084
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 6: with the best shape, really paced himself very well throughout.

1085
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 6: I think he was really trying to manage his energy

1086
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 6: throughout that fight. And again, if he can get back

1087
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 6: into shape and bring that same kind of awareness on

1088
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 6: his pacing, I really think he can do some damage

1089
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 6: in that heavweight division.

1090
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 4: I really do. Yeah, No, I think you're right.

1091
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 5: He did pace himself up until those ground strikes in

1092
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:33,839
Speaker 5: that third and final round.

1093
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 3: Well, you know what was crazy is that I going

1094
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 3: into that third round, I was not sure if it

1095
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 3: was one one, you know, But after the fight was over,

1096
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,839
Speaker 3: I saw all the judges had it mow Green two

1097
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 3: oh going into the third round.

1098
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 4: So even if that third round was.

1099
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 3: At ten eight, I feel better now. I wish I

1100
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 3: know that during the fight, so right wise, I'm throwing

1101
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:56,879
Speaker 3: up to the bucket. But you know it's to Kenny's point,

1102
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 3: I think you just hit it on the head, he

1103
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 3: comes in better shape, he pays himself just a little things,

1104
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 3: and he uses that wrestling, you're right, heavyweight could be

1105
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 3: something decent for him.

1106
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 5: Maybe that's interesting to me that the judges had ten

1107
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 5: to nine for Mary Screen on all three cards, and

1108
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 5: I do believe hearing that that they would have had

1109
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 5: to have been leaning ten eight Valante at that point

1110
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 5: in time. Again, just based upon the new language. All Right,

1111
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:19,919
Speaker 5: a couple other things I want to want to get

1112
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 5: to Brendan Allen and Kyle Dawcas. I was so excited

1113
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 5: about this fight. Ken flow and Ian obviously will get

1114
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 5: your thoughts as well, because I watched a lot of

1115
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 5: film on Kyle Dakas and he was nine and zero,

1116
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 5: he was five and five as an amateur right competing

1117
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 5: at like two oh five and heavyweight, undefeated as a

1118
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 5: pro as a middleweight, and maybe not on the grappling level.

1119
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 5: Kenny as the Brazilian jiu jitsu black belt Brendan Allen,

1120
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 5: but this fight to me just had it all. I mean,

1121
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 5: if you like grappling, if you like fucking elbows, and

1122
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 5: you like blood. For me and a lot of respects,

1123
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 5: Kenny was the perfect fight and.

1124
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 6: High level mma. These guys were good everywhere, and they

1125
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 6: brought it. They were aggressive.

1126
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 4: You know.

1127
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 6: Prior to that Fourier Hooker fighter said this is going

1128
00:47:58,200 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 6: to be the fight of the night for sure.

1129
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 4: It was just amazing.

1130
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 6: And I tell you what, before that fight started, I said,

1131
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 6: the winner of this fight could really be the.

1132
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 4: Man in the welchweight division.

1133
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 6: I said, watch out for the whoever wins this fight

1134
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 6: is gonna do big things in the UFC. I might

1135
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,760
Speaker 6: I might say now after watching that fight that both

1136
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 6: those guys may do some serious damage and will be

1137
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 6: contenders in that division because I was just blown away

1138
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 6: by their toughness, their skill, their conditioning under these circumstances.

1139
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 4: Blown away. But those guys are studs. Man. Awesome fight.

1140
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 3: I will say, a lot of people thought that those

1141
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 3: lines should have been closer, and I said, also, you know,

1142
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 3: even though Brendan Allen being the guy like Holland before this,

1143
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 3: you know, August just kind of had the tools for

1144
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 3: this level. And it showed, you know, I will say,

1145
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 3: to come.

1146
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 4: Out of that.

1147
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 3: God now I got distracted because of that message. Sorry

1148
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 3: to come at it, you know, being up two zero

1149
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 3: and getting that elbow to the face for Kyle to

1150
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 3: come out, and I think possibly. I don't want to

1151
00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:58,919
Speaker 3: say that was a ten eight round because he didn't

1152
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 3: do a ton of damage when he had outens back

1153
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 3: like at all, But I think he proved his work

1154
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 3: for the UFC. I think Kenny's right, He's going to be.

1155
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 7: A force in that division.

1156
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 3: I think Brendan Allen he could have dominated that fight

1157
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 3: more if he wasn't so accepting of the guillotine. You know,

1158
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 3: in that type of fight, when you're doing so well

1159
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 3: on your feet and on top, to lose position to

1160
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,320
Speaker 3: another grappling guy is a rough play. But dude, what warriors.

1161
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 3: Those elbows were filthy, perfect fight. You said it best.

1162
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 4: So what about the judges, by the way, so let

1163
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:27,399
Speaker 4: me ask you this Slough.

1164
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 5: So you saw Kyle Doccas's reaction when he heard that

1165
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 5: one of the judges had at thirty twenty seven. For

1166
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 5: a second he thought, oh shit, I might have won

1167
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 5: this fight, because I know I won the third round,

1168
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 5: as my daughters saw and everybody else under the age

1169
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 5: of six or otherwise. So I think it was Dave

1170
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 5: Hagen who was the judge who gave Brendan Allen the

1171
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,720
Speaker 5: third round, and we can have fun with this, But Kenny,

1172
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 5: this is about as discouraging as it gets because if

1173
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 5: you can't see that Kyle Daccas won that third round

1174
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,240
Speaker 5: and you're one of the three scorecards in the world

1175
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:02,320
Speaker 5: that matters, we got a real problem. As John McCarthy

1176
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 5: has articulated in the past, there are only eight or

1177
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 5: ten of these guys who really are elite judges. And respectfully,

1178
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 5: if Hagen saw round three for Brendan Allen, he can't

1179
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 5: be one of them.

1180
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 6: You know, my wife watches fights every once in a while.

1181
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 6: She got into it way, you know, way after we

1182
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 6: met or whatever, and she said, how the hell does

1183
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 6: a judge call that thirty twenty.

1184
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 4: Seven of it? She was completely.

1185
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 6: Blown away by that scorecard. So to me, it was

1186
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 6: just so obvious. You know, how do you lose around

1187
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 6: when you're on somebody's back in a position to submit

1188
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 6: some of these judges and scorecards.

1189
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 4: It's just it's plain scary. If I was a fighter, man,

1190
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 4: I'd be like, I give up.

1191
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 6: I don't know anymore, man, Like what am I supposed

1192
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 6: to do? Bring a knife into the octagon and well

1193
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 6: get to finished?

1194
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 4: What's going on?

1195
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:47,879
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1196
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 5: Going you Kenny, you'd probably be like, fuck, man, I

1197
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 5: have to I have to change my style to make

1198
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 5: sure that I don't think there can't be any more

1199
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 5: distance fights.

1200
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 4: It's exactly, it's crazy. It's craziness.

1201
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 6: Literally the most dominant position off the ground, and some

1202
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 6: judges like, uh, yeah he lost that fight. Uh huh

1203
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 6: yeah yeah he lost that round. No, no, no doubt

1204
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 6: about it. It makes no sense. Uh but uh again,

1205
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 6: just just an awesome fight by both men, and these

1206
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 6: judges got to get their shit together.

1207
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 4: Drop.

1208
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 3: Can you just imagine going to your corner and being

1209
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 3: ubdominant ten eight's and two rounds of your coach goes. Honestly, kid,

1210
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 3: you might not be winning because they've just been listening.

1211
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 3: They're just listening to this, being yelling for the last

1212
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 3: two rounds. It's possible. This is fucking crazy. How listen?

1213
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 3: Brendan Allen wrote on Twitter if you think I lost

1214
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 3: that round ten eight, you're a dumb fuck. But he

1215
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 3: was accepting to say if you scored it ten to

1216
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 3: nine against me in the third round, that's understandable. I'm

1217
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:50,720
Speaker 3: all for that, But how do you get him to listen?

1218
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 3: I don't know where these judges get their credentials.

1219
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's just like, oh.

1220
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:55,439
Speaker 3: I'm bored, like I want to be an MMA judge.

1221
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 3: Oh you're hired, John, You just said that. John McCarthy

1222
00:51:57,960 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 3: said ten to eight. I say we're lucky if we

1223
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 3: have three consistent, decent judges in the sport. There's too

1224
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 3: many of these that.

1225
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 5: Happened, right, all right, Ian, Before we let you go,

1226
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 5: I just want to get your thoughts on a couple upsets.

1227
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 5: Julian Erosa plus four hundred over Sean Woodson. Julian Erosa

1228
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:16,840
Speaker 5: took the fight on Wednesday or Thursday, and then Kama

1229
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:21,240
Speaker 5: Worthy over Luis Pana. Now Panya was without his head coach, Pahumpa,

1230
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 5: So I do want to point that out. Maybe it's

1231
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 5: neither here nor there, but he was without his jiu

1232
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 5: jitsu coach. Before I turn it over to Kenny, your

1233
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,280
Speaker 5: thoughts on those two dogs cash in this weekend.

1234
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 4: Look, Julian and.

1235
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 3: Rosa coming back for a third time. You know the

1236
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 3: amount of damage he took in that fight, the amount

1237
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 3: of shots. Dudes all hard, you know, and it was

1238
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 3: crazy because he even said that once he felt that

1239
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 3: power not there, he was willing to take one and

1240
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 3: give one and the all that wants had to do

1241
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:51,760
Speaker 3: is not put himself in a position to get submitted,

1242
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 3: and he did just that. Otherwise that would have been

1243
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 3: a clean sweep for him. You know, when he dropped

1244
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 3: A Rosa, I mean, listen, good for Julian Rosa, man

1245
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 3: two days notice fighting a guy who's very difficult, rangy, awkward.

1246
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 3: I mean, listen, the kid's obviously talented, but man, what

1247
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 3: heart he has. And Kama Worthy better gets some fucking respect.

1248
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:10,959
Speaker 4: Man.

1249
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 7: I mean, listen.

1250
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 3: I said he was the one guy on this card,

1251
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:17,720
Speaker 3: and I think violent Bob Ross is a very talented

1252
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 3: guy and he's got one of the best nicknames out there.

1253
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 3: But you know, it's hard to judge Coma Worthy off

1254
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 3: that first fight because he landed that one upper cut

1255
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 3: and it was over. I think he's showing that for

1256
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 3: this weight class. He is as strong as a fucking ox.

1257
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:33,360
Speaker 3: He's smart, and I listen, dude has got talent and

1258
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 3: I'm excited to see what they give him next. I mean,

1259
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:37,760
Speaker 3: it's just unbelievable. Guys that are just big of underdogs

1260
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 3: people just don't respect. He comes out and finishes twice.

1261
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 7: Good for him.

1262
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, Kenny I'm hoping people will put some respect on

1263
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 5: the name Kama Worthy out of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania every time

1264
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 5: we sit down to fight, or maybe he talks about

1265
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,720
Speaker 5: the value of his six losses he lost to Paul Felder.

1266
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 5: I think very early on in his career, he was

1267
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 5: nine and six at one point in time. Now he's

1268
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 5: sixteen and six and he's won seven in a row,

1269
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 5: two by big underdog in the US. I just I

1270
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 5: like when veterans sort of come into a fighter meeting

1271
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:06,879
Speaker 5: and say, I think I can break the young guy

1272
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 5: and beat the young guy, and no one's given me

1273
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 5: a shot, and then they actually go out and do it.

1274
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 6: Absolutely and you could certainly judge someone's character based on

1275
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 6: the adversity that they've experienced.

1276
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 4: Over the course of their career or the course of

1277
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 4: their life.

1278
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 6: And going from nine to six to where he is

1279
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 6: now really says a lot about his belief in himself

1280
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 6: and how he really is working on his game to

1281
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 6: get better. You can make serious turnarounds in this game.

1282
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 6: He is proof of that. Very impressive that he's able

1283
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 6: to get it.

1284
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 4: Done like that.

1285
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 5: And congrats to all the other winners. Big win for

1286
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 5: Takashi Sato Tanner Bose. I really like Tanner Boser at heavyweight.

1287
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 5: I think there are a lot of favorable matchups for

1288
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 5: him in the top fifteen. Moves exceedingly well for a heavyweight.

1289
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 5: Kay Hanson gets a bonus for that armbar on gin

1290
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 5: U Fry and use off. Sala begins the night a

1291
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 5: unanimous decision winner over Jordan Griffin. All right, last thing

1292
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 5: poll question for today's Anakin Florian podcast YOUFC two fifty

1293
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 5: one thirteen days away, yas I Island Abu Dhabi whole question.

1294
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 5: There are three championship underdogs July eleventh. They are Max

1295
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 5: Holloway plus one seventy five, Gilbertrino Burns plus one ninety

1296
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:13,280
Speaker 5: Jose Aldo Junior plus one ninety against Pyoto Yacht.

1297
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 4: About five thousand votes on.

1298
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 5: Social media this morning got a huge response right out

1299
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 5: of the shoot. Over fifty percent like Max Holloway as

1300
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 5: the underdog most likely to come in and that dovetails

1301
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 5: with the price he is the.

1302
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 4: Smallest underdog of the three.

1303
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 5: And then it was twenty five percent for Burns, twenty

1304
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 5: three point eight percent for Jose Aldo. So I'll put

1305
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 5: it to you Ian and then Ken Flow, I know

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Speaker 5: You guys aren't making picks until next Monday. But of

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Speaker 5: the three championship underdogs, are you leaning towards any one

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00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 5: of the three right now as we sit here in

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Speaker 5: late June.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what, it's very hard for me to

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Speaker 3: not take a Max Holloway at a plus one eighty

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Speaker 3: number year. I think people tend to forget he came back,

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Speaker 3: and I think the judges gave him rounds four and

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00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 3: five in that fight last time against Alex Look, Mulgatowski's

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00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 3: a problem and he figured it out. But to not

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00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 3: give Max Holloway the credit, I think he deserve for

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Speaker 3: what he's done up until that point. Who's to say

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Speaker 3: he can't make the changes. The dude arguably the best

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00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 3: of all time in that weight class. Still only twenty

1320
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:09,359
Speaker 3: eight years old. He's the oldest twenty eight year old

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Speaker 3: I think I've ever met in my entire life. I

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Speaker 3: like Max Holloway still. I think that he could put

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Speaker 3: it together. I think he's got the experience and sometimes

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00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 3: those losses are the best things for guys like that.

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Speaker 3: You know, we will find out if Max Holloway can

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00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 3: still if the blessed Eeric could get back on tracks.

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Speaker 3: So I think out of all the underdogs, I'd give

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Speaker 3: him the best shot.

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Speaker 4: Ken Flow.

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Speaker 5: Alexander Volkanovsky knew when he was fighting Max Holloway the

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00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 5: first time last December that he was going to probably

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00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:36,880
Speaker 5: have to beat him twice. Now, I'm not suggesting that

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00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 5: Eugene Bharman and the City Kickboxing team held some things

1334
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 5: back necessarily, but they felt like they were going to

1335
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 5: have to fight this guy twice. And this is a

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00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 5: very smart camp. I know a lot of coaches who

1337
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 5: work from defense to offense right if they're prepared for

1338
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 5: Habib as Conan Silbera has said, the one thing I'm

1339
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 5: starting with is you're not touching my fucking leg, and

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00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 5: then they build everything around that. So I'm just asking

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00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 5: you about that fight before, where you give me the

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00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 5: under dog that you like the best. Because I hear

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00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 5: Balamahabba and all these other people say, oh, Holloway is

1344
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 5: going to make all these adjustments. Did they not think

1345
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 5: Volco is going to adjust at all? Your thoughts on

1346
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:10,360
Speaker 5: that fight and ultimately which dog you really like?

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00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 6: Absolutely, I was gonna chime in on this regardless, and

1348
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 6: I know we're running out of time here, but take Volkonovski,

1349
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 6: to me, fought one of the more brilliant championship fights

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00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 6: in recent history.

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00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 4: I don't think a lot of people gave him a

1352
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 4: shot in that.

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00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 6: I think that in order for Holloway to defeat him,

1354
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 6: he's gonna have to pressure Volkanovsky. He's gonna have to

1355
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 6: come forward way more than he did in that last

1356
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 6: fight because.

1357
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 4: Countering him was not available.

1358
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 6: Why because Volkanovski was not giving Holloway the opportunity to counter.

1359
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 6: He was throwing shots on the outside and he was

1360
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 6: getting the hell out of there. Now, for Halloway to

1361
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 6: come forward opens up a second layer of offense for Volkanovsky,

1362
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 6: which comes in the form of the takedown. So now Holloway,

1363
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 6: who was probably really aware of that takedown, wasn't sure

1364
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 6: whether to come forward.

1365
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 4: In order for him to come forward.

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00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 6: It's gonna open up that second layer for Volkanovsky. So

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Speaker 6: I again I still have I have Volkanovsky as a

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00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 6: favorite heading into this one. Yet again again I think

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00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 6: Holloway can he pull it off without a doubt. You

1370
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 6: never count out someone like hollow with that kind of

1371
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 6: experience and that championship pedigree. However, I think Volkanovsky knowing

1372
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 6: what he knows now after twenty five minutes is going

1373
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 6: to open some things up.

1374
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 5: So Gilbert Burns, I think a lot of people like him.

1375
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 5: Perhaps that is due to the familiarity with Kamara Usman,

1376
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 5: and then of course Josey Aldo Junior may be improperly priced,

1377
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 5: but certainly for my money, the Russian boxer Piodrian deserves

1378
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 5: to be the favorite.

1379
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 4: Kenny.

1380
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 5: If you had to place a bet today on one

1381
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 5: of the three dogs, you're going with Burns, You're going

1382
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 5: with Aldo, You're going with Volco, or not of the above.

1383
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 6: You know, the only thing that concerns me with Aldo

1384
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 6: is the fact that he does have a lot of

1385
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 6: miles on him. I would be a little concerned if

1386
00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 6: that fight gets a little bit crazy and a brawl

1387
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 6: starts to kind of materialize. Jan has less miles on

1388
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 6: him in that regard, and I don't love Aldo taking

1389
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 6: a lot of shots at one hundred and thirty five pounds,

1390
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 6: and he has a tendency of getting overly emotional and

1391
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 6: fights that where he starts to get hit, he starts

1392
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 6: to kind of get a little bit too manly, and

1393
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 6: he makes it about who the tougher guy is. He

1394
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 6: doesn't have to play that game. He's the more technical fighter.

1395
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 6: Now for the Burns and Usman fight, that to me

1396
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 6: is the most interesting one I have. Gilbert Burns the

1397
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 6: underdog is probably the most probable bet. Now again, who

1398
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 6: knows as far as breaking it down. Burns knows Uzman

1399
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 6: better than anyone out there. And when you look at

1400
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 6: that fight, where Usman gets paid and where he makes

1401
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 6: his money is on the ground.

1402
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 4: He beats the hell out of you. He takes you

1403
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 4: down and he beats you up.

1404
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 6: I'm not sure if he wants to take that approach

1405
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 6: against someone like Gilbert Burns, who he knows is gonna

1406
00:59:57,680 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 6: have the advantage down there.

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00:59:58,960 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 4: So that changed it.

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01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 6: So now what happens there Now it becomes who is

1409
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 6: the better striker on the feet, And from what I've seen,

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01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 6: Burns seems a little bit more capable there. Unless Uzmann

1411
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 6: can keep it in the clinch and fight it on

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01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 6: that level, I think lose.

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01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 4: Mike can get it done. But for me, I like

1414
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 4: Gilbert Burns as the best underdog.

1415
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 5: There out of those three. Perhaps Kamar would like that

1416
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 5: twenty five footer. He will not have it on Fight Island.

1417
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 5: Ian Parker will give you the final word. You look

1418
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 5: like it's chopping at the bit a little bit there.

1419
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like Kenny knows what the new updated

1420
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 3: score is, so he's trying to pick opposite to me

1421
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 3: in every way shape for me he had.

1422
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 7: He's bringing it.

1423
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 3: Save the energy for next week, bro, But no, look,

1424
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 3: I agree with you with Yaldo situation. I also listen,

1425
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 3: I think Jan's gonna be the better boxer there. And

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01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 3: I'm listen. One thirty five. We saw that he did

1427
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 3: the cut. It looks pretty good against Marlon Morice. But

1428
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 3: you know, we also didn't see him take too many

1429
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 3: real hard shots.

1430
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 7: At Yon can throw.

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01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 3: The ousmightin Burns is such an interesting thing. I think

1432
01:00:57,840 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 3: it's the first time that two guys and training to

1433
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 3: get so eager to be like, yeah, let's fight for

1434
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 3: the title. Fuck it like not even a Oh. I

1435
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:06,400
Speaker 3: love him, he's my brother. I'll never do it. It

1436
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 3: was like, Yo, you're gonna go to Colorado. I'll stay here,

1437
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 3: will be cool.

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01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 7: Shake.

1439
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 3: Henry moved to the side. Let us duke it out

1440
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 3: fight Island. I can't fucking wait. It's gonna be sick.

1441
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 3: We just got to keep it into that lead. Sorry, Kenny,

1442
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 3: I thought you thought you were getting away without some

1443
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 3: scoring on this bullshit.

1444
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 7: No way.

1445
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 5: Well, mostman, he's eleven to zero in the UFC, but

1446
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 5: he only has one title defense, right, so he's trying

1447
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 5: to put a George Sampierre like legacy on paper. And

1448
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 5: the best way to do that you defend the belt.

1449
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 5: And I'm sure he feels like candidly he knows Gilbert

1450
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 5: Burns and he's fucked. Everybody else up in the UFC

1451
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 5: is barely lost around. I don't think Goosman's confidence is

1452
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 5: going to be shaken by the fact that he has

1453
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 5: had to move to Colorado. But good stuff on two

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01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 5: fifty one. We got to get out of here. We're

1455
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Speaker 5: back next Monday. It is a pay per view week Monday,

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01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 5: July sixth. We'll have predictions on many fights. I think

1457
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 5: it's like eight or nine picks for me and in

1458
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 5: Kenny next week, and we will get you ready for

1459
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Speaker 4: Cody Marrow at the controls until next week.

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