Speaker 1: Look man, oh I see you? Why why and look
Speaker 1: over there? How is that culture? Yes? Goodness? Lost culture?
Speaker 1: Just calling in person. But I'm pissed. Why we lost
Speaker 1: an award again? I'm furious and I can't believe on
Speaker 1: our own network we would lose the award for Best
Speaker 1: Comedy Podcast. Why do you do this to us? I heart,
Speaker 1: I'm turning around looking at the producer. It's not and
Speaker 1: I'm pissed. Not Anna's fault. It is. She's a part
Speaker 1: of the whole operation. It's corporate structures. She's a part
Speaker 1: of it. She's a part of it. But you know,
Speaker 1: she's our producer. And if we're gonna go by and
Speaker 1: just like that rules, we're gonna make out with her
Speaker 1: in the elevator. Can I say that was so hot?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Bowen, I loved it. I really, I
Speaker 1: was so uplifted and I kind of can I say
Speaker 1: something made the whole insanity of the season worth it?
Speaker 1: It was a perfect season. It was a perfect Now
Speaker 1: now that I've seen the finale and I love the
Speaker 1: finale so much, I'm confident and saying it's a perfect season.
Speaker 1: And and we're going to bring our guests in because
Speaker 1: we truly have in a second, but we truly have
Speaker 1: someone who I know is going to weigh one away.
Speaker 1: I really need to hear. And what I want to
Speaker 1: say at the top is give SJP the noomb. While
Speaker 1: we're talking about awards, give s JP the noam. We
Speaker 1: sat down, look at each other in the eyes and
Speaker 1: bow and Yank said, you'd watch her do I mean,
Speaker 1: I could watch her do anything. We've said this before
Speaker 1: on the podcast, but I could watch her act with
Speaker 1: a lamp for hours. Her senior partner was a fucking
Speaker 1: reading light. When she turned to that lamp and she
Speaker 1: she was talking to the lamp, there was more and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this, there was more electricity between her
Speaker 1: and that lamp than Miranda and Jay ever had all season.
Speaker 1: Thank you, and can we talk about her going back
Speaker 1: to the electrician, to the lamp store or whatever, the
Speaker 1: fun store, lamp store, the disappointment in her face when
Speaker 1: it was just like, it's just the wire, It's just
Speaker 1: a wire and then oh lamp went on again. I said,
Speaker 1: it wasn't the wire and then that did you make
Speaker 1: you believe in heaven? Yes, in the afterlife or not? Not? Not? Not?
Speaker 1: Judeo Christian heaven um. But the afterlife. Yes, you know what,
Speaker 1: there's something I think that when we die, there's something
Speaker 1: I never expected the Sex in the City universe to
Speaker 1: touch on the afterlife in this way. Excuse me on
Speaker 1: the paranormal that I just did the reader's I just
Speaker 1: did the thing of like mind blown. Oh my god?
Speaker 1: Can we just say the line reading that gave me
Speaker 1: chills from my toes to the top of my hair,
Speaker 1: from the root chakra to the crown everything. I'm Carrie
Speaker 1: Bradshaw and this Sex in the City. No, even even
Speaker 1: before that, when she goes, well, that's it for my
Speaker 1: first podcast, I'll get better, Like did you know what
Speaker 1: I'm talking about? She's efforts good and you know what
Speaker 1: the thing is we're gonna bring we gotta bring, right,
Speaker 1: So listen, this this actually this is huge. Okay, this
Speaker 1: is actually a moment in time because talk about so
Speaker 1: this this I'm gonna put in quote it's like a
Speaker 1: pop culture podcast. But we don't know what the funk
Speaker 1: we're talking about. Either of us do this alone? I
Speaker 1: don't think so. And can you fucking imagine you know
Speaker 1: what I did the HBO Max Movie Club podcast alone
Speaker 1: and it's hardest, hardest ship. I did the search party
Speaker 1: thing alone. It's so difficult. It's one of the hardest
Speaker 1: things anyone could ever do. Host and and it's any
Speaker 1: carrying it as it were, we both got carried away,
Speaker 1: Oh ship, and who is that? And you're I know
Speaker 1: you're all asking. And I actually think the readers are
Speaker 1: actually going to be really excited about this because I
Speaker 1: bet those crossover now. So not only is our guest
Speaker 1: today and Esteemed solo podcast or and he has guests,
Speaker 1: but you know, it's mostly the main event is him
Speaker 1: of the podcast Everything Iconic, which is truly it lives
Speaker 1: up to its name. But also now he's written a
Speaker 1: book about another one of the hardest things you could do.
Speaker 1: But the hardest thing you can also do is to
Speaker 1: bring hard copies of your book to the podcast. You're
Speaker 1: about to go on the Elegance Soft and talk about effortless,
Speaker 1: talk about effortless and the way he handed over I
Speaker 1: brought books. I brought book. I said, what two or
Speaker 1: two of the first people to get the book, are
Speaker 1: you kidding to My mom got a copy, and then
Speaker 1: you guys got to come. And then we also said
Speaker 1: the blurbs Okay, here's here. Here the blurbs say the boots.
Speaker 1: We got Andy Cohen, huge star, Casey Wilson, one of
Speaker 1: the most iconic people love her. Kate Bear Hello, number
Speaker 1: one New York Times bestseller Kate Bear, There you go.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna skip one. Lynda Pellegrino, Danny's mom. Yes, and
Speaker 1: huge wall of text from Rachel Lindsay And can I
Speaker 1: just say, I just want to put out there into
Speaker 1: the world. Rachel, You're invited on Lost Cult. She has
Speaker 1: to come on. She's come on. She's smart, she's funny,
Speaker 1: she's every and she loves Bravo to she loves Bravo.
Speaker 1: And I will just say the The press day we
Speaker 1: did for a door from Queen season two was long
Speaker 1: and sort of like, Okay, we're gonna do what next? Okay, great,
Speaker 1: And it was just me on Zooms all day, not
Speaker 1: that fun. But when Extra came on and I saw
Speaker 1: that it was Rachel Lindsay, I said, oh my god, Rachel.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine like she's the kind of person on
Speaker 1: the red carpet who's like, hey, it's me Rachel, and
Speaker 1: the celebrities are like, yeah, girl, I know. Did you
Speaker 1: ever see the interview she did with Rihanna where Rihanna
Speaker 1: is like excited to see Rachel. God, can you imagine
Speaker 1: Rihanna's favorite celebrities are like Rachel, Lindsay and Karen Huger.
Speaker 1: She's smart and how and okay, listen already we've he's
Speaker 1: sort of broken through because it's like it's that, it's
Speaker 1: that and just like that energy where it's like we
Speaker 1: have no no, no, no, don't know Bober. Fortunately, true
Speaker 1: stories you can pre order and that would be a
Speaker 1: smart decision. Everyone, Please welcome to your ears. Danny Pellegrino.
Speaker 1: I'm so happy to be I'm excited. I'm a little nervous.
Speaker 1: I don't want to let the readers down. I don't
Speaker 1: want to disappoint in how yes, oh my god, garrib
Speaker 1: ever and wait, can I stay with s j P
Speaker 1: for you totally agree that, like her acting was phenomenal,
Speaker 1: but I was so excited about the dress moment too,
Speaker 1: and the whole season. I was like waiting for sort
Speaker 1: of like a weird look that was like overdone and dramatic,
Speaker 1: and I felt like that was it for me. This
Speaker 1: is what I'm saying. It did make up for the
Speaker 1: like errors of the season, which do you feel good
Speaker 1: about the season? I want like a hundred more seasons,
Speaker 1: But I thought it was batch it and saying there
Speaker 1: was a lot of stuff that I felt like it
Speaker 1: was just dropped, Like I was thinking the other day alcoholism.
Speaker 1: Do you remember at Bigg's funeral when like his his secretary?
Speaker 1: What was that? It was like I thought that was
Speaker 1: going to be something that played in like there was
Speaker 1: a secret mistress or a kid or something, and maybe
Speaker 1: it will done the road, But that was like another
Speaker 1: one of those things where it's like, oh, what happened
Speaker 1: to that? What happened to that? They really featured her
Speaker 1: entrance into that funeral and it was like they really
Speaker 1: made a deal out of it, which makes me feel
Speaker 1: like maybe they didn't know exactly where they were going,
Speaker 1: which is like how could that be true? How could
Speaker 1: that be true? But even to have the Ash the
Speaker 1: last thing you saw the Ashes was episode two and
Speaker 1: then they it came back roaring episode Like, I'm like,
Speaker 1: it's the Nineline was so fucked up. It's a weird
Speaker 1: syncopation on the on the stories a little bit, but overall,
Speaker 1: I truly stand by this perfect season. I mean it
Speaker 1: was perfect season, and also it kept us talking. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and didn't it make you feel like I feel like
Speaker 1: we're all starved for shows about older women. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was like we all just wanted to talk about it.
Speaker 1: And yes, a lot of it was crazy to me
Speaker 1: and bad and all of those things. But it's like,
Speaker 1: I we need more stories about these older women because
Speaker 1: it's like we all are cravy and obviously everyone's talking
Speaker 1: about the show. I also think, like, you know, another
Speaker 1: thing is once it got to the end, and like,
Speaker 1: I guess the big conversation piece of the season was
Speaker 1: say with me che So when when the final episode
Speaker 1: was over, I sort of turned to myself in the
Speaker 1: mirror and I said, I think they know ch is cringe.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Because the pilot of it
Speaker 1: all also Sara Ramirez belting out that whenever a non
Speaker 1: singer in the show is played by a singer and
Speaker 1: they have to do a number, I'm always can't sing bad. No.
Speaker 1: It reminded me of Alison Williams and Girls, do you
Speaker 1: remember when she com was like, that's the kind of
Speaker 1: feeling I got when Chase started doing the beach was
Speaker 1: it what it was? I wish they could be California Girls.
Speaker 1: That was that was tough for me. Yeah, that was
Speaker 1: I think if you would take out the chase stuff,
Speaker 1: I think I would like it. I think I would
Speaker 1: think it was perfect almost Yeah, yeah, leaving Bobby Lee
Speaker 1: like the Bobby Lee like like like Jackie and Carry
Speaker 1: just like being like Carry being like Oh, I loved
Speaker 1: that that little interaction. She's like, we can't be site
Speaker 1: specific friends. I was like, oh, I you know, like
Speaker 1: you everyone has that thought about someone like at work
Speaker 1: or something. I was like, that relationship is really cute.
Speaker 1: And then Franklin, the podcast producer. I loved that. He
Speaker 1: was so hot. He was so hot, and I knew
Speaker 1: he was gonna be the first episode when they showed
Speaker 1: that glance, it was like, yeah, he's got a they
Speaker 1: can't be an extra. And that was good because it
Speaker 1: was it was subtle. It was like you see him
Speaker 1: looking at her and he's interested in the first couple
Speaker 1: episodes and like he's there the whole time. And then
Speaker 1: their chemistry in that elevator, I was like, WHOA like?
Speaker 1: And that is that is very begin again. Taylor Swift Vibes,
Speaker 1: It's beginning in Vibes and I immediately went and saved that.
Speaker 1: That's on a Spotify. It's the Paradise in Love with You.
Speaker 1: It came out in like two thousand three, and it
Speaker 1: made me feel like I was on a party drug.
Speaker 1: But did you save that other song that CHA did
Speaker 1: could be California? Did you say that I did? I did.
Speaker 1: I hadn't heard before when they said Holly Hollywood called bitches,
Speaker 1: I'm making a pilot, I was like, first the Roan,
Speaker 1: but the good one from the eighties, what is that?
Speaker 1: What is that? And then for the comedy pilot to
Speaker 1: be a live taping of a special skill that's not
Speaker 1: a how is that? None realized? None of it? This
Speaker 1: is this is we're saying, like, I think they know
Speaker 1: the writers knew that this was gonna be fully unintelligible.
Speaker 1: But what about the podcast of it all where it's
Speaker 1: like they're taking the live caller thing, like I don't
Speaker 1: think they knew that most podcasts don't do the live
Speaker 1: call and they're fully in like a very they're in
Speaker 1: like a very like serious XM type studio where it's
Speaker 1: like if it's getting radio show and you can tell
Speaker 1: they wrote it like radio show. And yes, it's true
Speaker 1: that you can take live calls for a podcast. I
Speaker 1: just would like to confirm out there and sort of
Speaker 1: like break the fourth wall and say you can do it,
Speaker 1: but like it's not done. Yeah, I don't really do it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just say it's serious. Exam Yeah, say it's a radio show.
Speaker 1: But you know that, you know they were so hard
Speaker 1: to say podcasts. But all along, I wanted Carrie to
Speaker 1: be the voice over of the show with the podcast
Speaker 1: and I didn't. I wanted her to be solo with
Speaker 1: pot and I'm like, oh, I'm excited now going forward
Speaker 1: it could be just carry. I also love the trans Rabbi.
Speaker 1: I want more Harry. Oh my god, this is what happened.
Speaker 1: I watched Harria beatas Rabbi. I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: she's being so good in this. And then I went
Speaker 1: to Instagram and she posted this beautiful block of text
Speaker 1: about like how full circle this was and how like
Speaker 1: she like moved to New York with that fantasy like
Speaker 1: so many people do. Um. She was amazing and you
Speaker 1: could tell she was having fun Jay show, Like you
Speaker 1: could see there was like a sparkle to her that
Speaker 1: was like, and I feel that sparkle with Seema to
Speaker 1: like I loved she also got railed by a hot
Speaker 1: fucking guy. That guy's tragic. He was in the original too,
Speaker 1: was he was like a sale I don't want to
Speaker 1: I think of a salesperson or something. He was like
Speaker 1: I had lines, but he was is this like an
Speaker 1: eastery that like he like eventually owns a club or something.
Speaker 1: I think, different character. Oh, I can't then bring back
Speaker 1: Bradley Cooper. Haven't played someone else? I mean, listen, where
Speaker 1: is there space for Bradley Cooper in a show where
Speaker 1: we've discovered this new a list hot guy in the elevator? Now?
Speaker 1: I want to know who do you want back from
Speaker 1: the original? Like next season we're going we have to
Speaker 1: have there's gonna be a season too, right, slattery, I
Speaker 1: think would be great. You know, I kept feeling like
Speaker 1: I thought, okay, I thought the teacher when when they
Speaker 1: flashed to him in the trailer, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's Burger. Yeah. I thought that he looks like and
Speaker 1: it looks like he could be like a brother or something. Right, Yes,
Speaker 1: for some reason thought and I think it was you
Speaker 1: telling me like I think Burger's coming back, And I
Speaker 1: was like, for some reason, I was waiting for a
Speaker 1: cameo at the end, like somebody Aiden Aiden. It was
Speaker 1: giving that Aiden was going to come, and they also
Speaker 1: teased in the in the promo, like her turning around
Speaker 1: and looking and seeing someone, and I thought, of course,
Speaker 1: I was so hard for Samantha, but it's not going
Speaker 1: to happen. And now Sarry Jessica Parker has on an
Speaker 1: interview that she pretty much confirms like she's not coming back.
Speaker 1: Like that that off camera conversation they had and was
Speaker 1: was their way of letting us the audience know the
Speaker 1: characters have gotten closure, but Samantha will not return, which
Speaker 1: I think hurts it really hurtful. Yeah, even just a
Speaker 1: little appearance. And I'm I thought they handled it really
Speaker 1: well with the text message was like I liked that
Speaker 1: and I hope they at least keep doing it. But
Speaker 1: also if they leaned too far into it, I'll get
Speaker 1: really annoying knowing that we're never getting a Kim. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would leave it now, I immediately because I think
Speaker 1: I was also waiting for Aidan. I watched just the
Speaker 1: scene in the market from sex in the City to
Speaker 1: where they see each other, and which was the same
Speaker 1: her turning around me. Yeah, so I guess they couldn't
Speaker 1: have done that again, right, But I I don't know.
Speaker 1: I was kind of craving it. Like I watched it back.
Speaker 1: I was like and like that whatever the second movie,
Speaker 1: we all we all like know what we think about it.
Speaker 1: But like that scene is they had like the best
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean just the way he would look
Speaker 1: at her and like that, that to me was always
Speaker 1: carries one. Yeah, I was always teenmate into Yeah, there
Speaker 1: was always an asshole to her. He was big, was
Speaker 1: an asshole to her. Aiden treated her like a queen.
Speaker 1: But I guess like the thing that Aiden has that
Speaker 1: is like self respect, like no, I'm not going to
Speaker 1: go back to this person that like really hurt me.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, which is probably I don't know that
Speaker 1: Carrie deserved data. No, I think that you're right about that,
Speaker 1: but um I and then guess what, Like I watched
Speaker 1: the next scene in the movie and like Samantha was there,
Speaker 1: well Samantha was there, and like I was like, God,
Speaker 1: this is this is painful. This is painful to watch,
Speaker 1: like what she was just so good in that role,
Speaker 1: and it's it's hard. There's no one who could ever
Speaker 1: replace Chimmick. A trial in that role, and like colet
Speaker 1: School has shared like a clip of like because they've
Speaker 1: been watching like Old Sex in the City from the
Speaker 1: beginning and like early seasons. It literally is like like
Speaker 1: if you think about Samantha Jones, like the stock line
Speaker 1: that you're like not even sure she really says is
Speaker 1: let me tell you about his cock. But the clip
Speaker 1: that cole A School ascent was literally Samantha going, let
Speaker 1: me tell you about his cop And I'm like, this
Speaker 1: is so icon act. Well, the thing is like imagine,
Speaker 1: imagine like auditions for that part. Like just to think
Speaker 1: of that having existed it at one time on the
Speaker 1: page without her, it's crazy, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It feels like she just walked in like with the characterization,
Speaker 1: like Samantha Jones is so alive, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And it's weird because you know, probably for a while,
Speaker 1: like I haven't watched the first season in a long time,
Speaker 1: but she probably was like one dimensional and then like
Speaker 1: there's so much like it's her performance is giving dimensionality
Speaker 1: even without what they did with her character, which I
Speaker 1: think was really smart. And she talks about how, you know, well,
Speaker 1: back in the good days when she was excited to
Speaker 1: talk about the show. She talks about how when she
Speaker 1: was given the cancer storyline, she was like, don't punish
Speaker 1: the character with sickness because she's free and because she's
Speaker 1: has a has a full sex life, and they were like,
Speaker 1: we're not going to do that. And I thought like,
Speaker 1: in terms of shows that turned to cancer as a storyline,
Speaker 1: that was one of the more elegant and really like
Speaker 1: complicated versions of that, which I think was great for her.
Speaker 1: You know, she was so much of the comedy of
Speaker 1: the original two, and I feel like this series was
Speaker 1: obviously meant to be a little bit heavier, but I
Speaker 1: think if you go back and watch the original and
Speaker 1: you take out the Samantha character, there's not as much
Speaker 1: humor in it. She was the comedy in it. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true. I'm really excited for a second season because
Speaker 1: I think now we can get back to it the likeness,
Speaker 1: we're more comfortable to where we know our bearings a
Speaker 1: little bit, we can enjoy it a little more. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: Like I've re familiarized myself with like the nature of
Speaker 1: how it can sometimes get a little weird and surreal,
Speaker 1: and like these characters come in and out, And I
Speaker 1: also am hopeful that the Chay and Miranda thing just
Speaker 1: crashes and burns. But I kind of feel like they're
Speaker 1: going to lean in more to the chair of it all.
Speaker 1: Like I feel like it's almost now they got a
Speaker 1: point to group of like and maybe it wouldn't even
Speaker 1: come back. Yeah, right, they've they so they just finally
Speaker 1: like came out with like a publicized state the word
Speaker 1: about what they say. Well, they were just like, um,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm aware of the response to this character,
Speaker 1: and I all I know is that Chay is not
Speaker 1: there to be liked and all this stuff, and um,
Speaker 1: and I think they asked they asked them like what
Speaker 1: would Chase say if Chay like knew and whatever like
Speaker 1: meta and meta question, but like what would cha think
Speaker 1: about all this response to it to them? And and
Speaker 1: Sara was like they would just like, um, laugh it
Speaker 1: off or something. And I'm like, see, like that's such
Speaker 1: see like I don't think which makes me think that
Speaker 1: Like I don't think Sara was in on the conversation
Speaker 1: around like and on like that portrayal of chairs like
Speaker 1: quote unquote annoying comedian. You know, right, Well that's this
Speaker 1: is the thing is it's like the only obviously Chay
Speaker 1: is like a glaring thing about the show where I
Speaker 1: just rolled my eyes so hard every time they were
Speaker 1: on screen because of the things they would say. I mean,
Speaker 1: it wasn't at the character itself, it's just it seems
Speaker 1: like it got deeper and deeper into the whole if
Speaker 1: it's not. And the final the final stage was like, yes,
Speaker 1: Hollywood called what was the Hollywood called bitches, I'm making
Speaker 1: a pilot, which is like anyone and and these people
Speaker 1: are in the industry, they work on the show, so
Speaker 1: they understand. You don't throw a party for making a pilot, right,
Speaker 1: throw a party if it gets like picked up. The
Speaker 1: other thing I think the writers were in on is
Speaker 1: when Chase said, uh, I'm a narcissist. It was like
Speaker 1: a flat out like and so to add that line
Speaker 1: of like here I'm saying I'm a narcissist, it's like
Speaker 1: they have to be in on it. Yeah, yeah, And
Speaker 1: I also think what else was there? It was Tony
Speaker 1: danzerl though, I want to know what he thought of it?
Speaker 1: Did you watch it? What was he consulted? They have
Speaker 1: ton't That's one thing I want to know, Like, do
Speaker 1: I have to reach out to Tony and be like, hey,
Speaker 1: we're referencing you in the show because it's Tony. You
Speaker 1: have to respect I did. I did on the floor
Speaker 1: at work. Colin was there and I was like, you
Speaker 1: were mentioned on the and just like that the other
Speaker 1: I like that and he was like, yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: get it, like real estate tea. So so so does that
Speaker 1: mean I like t's selling it or like he's like
Speaker 1: I don't understand whying it? I know, I know he
Speaker 1: like he didn't get it. Well, he got it, but
Speaker 1: he was kind of like, that's not he was like
Speaker 1: giving notes on the line, which I'm like, no, that's Colin.
Speaker 1: He's he's and it's and I think for him to
Speaker 1: be referenced on that show, like he has every right
Speaker 1: to be like what, Yeah, it must be bizarre. I think, Um,
Speaker 1: I think Tony. I'm sure Tony loved it. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean I bet Tony liked it. I mean he had
Speaker 1: such a crush on to I mean one of the
Speaker 1: first early crushes. Who's the boss Tony, So he really
Speaker 1: and he also has that like definitely fox energy, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like he he gives like it's
Speaker 1: a good time yeah, I don't know how much would
Speaker 1: you give though to see or to listen to a
Speaker 1: podcast like a recap podcast of Kim Catrell and Pat Field.
Speaker 1: I would pay every amount of money to just hear
Speaker 1: the two of them break down each episode. Yeah, just
Speaker 1: like like like a William and Alaska drag Race and Darren.
Speaker 1: Get Darren in there, and yes, I mean it's so
Speaker 1: interesting that, like I still haven't seen Himily in Paris
Speaker 1: season two. I haven't watched either. I have not watched.
Speaker 1: I think I watched, you know what. The weird thing
Speaker 1: about Emily in Paris is like everyone was like, it's
Speaker 1: so fun to watch, like for reasons of like they
Speaker 1: dragged it, but I was like, see, I couldn't even
Speaker 1: get into it for that. Like something didn't work for
Speaker 1: me with Emily in Paris in terms of like an
Speaker 1: I can enjoy it. It felt like a moment in
Speaker 1: time for me. It was like the early pandemic or whatever.
Speaker 1: It was like, yeah, I'm sitting enjoying dragging this a
Speaker 1: little bit and and also enjoying it on another level.
Speaker 1: But yeah, the moment passed and then season two came out.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't really care anymore. It was enough.
Speaker 1: I did enough, I had Yeah. I think overall we
Speaker 1: can say that and just like that was the television
Speaker 1: event of the year. It feels like it was over
Speaker 1: before it even beginning. You know, I do already miss
Speaker 1: it so much. Wasn't it so fun to just have
Speaker 1: something to talk about with people? Like it was so exciting.
Speaker 1: All we've done on this podcast is talk about the show.
Speaker 1: It's given us a lot of so much content. I
Speaker 1: mean to say, it's really beautiful. Sorry, the circle of life,
Speaker 1: how the podcast in the show gave this podcast podcast
Speaker 1: material x Y and us us Oh my title of
Speaker 1: that or should it be no? Because because we can't
Speaker 1: we can't be like, I'm Carrie Bradshaw on this is
Speaker 1: Sex in the City. No no, no, no, no y
Speaker 1: is the title of this? It can be I'm Danny
Speaker 1: Pellegrino and this is everything I need to get a
Speaker 1: woke button. Oh god, I mean, there was so much
Speaker 1: that was tough. And then and then at the end
Speaker 1: when they had rehearsed a song and said I'm going
Speaker 1: to Hollywood bitches and Miranda was like, I'm going to
Speaker 1: l A. I felt like they have to know what's cramp.
Speaker 1: Miranda's like regressing. Did you like Miranda's hair change, did you? I?
Speaker 1: I liked it. I did find it jarring for them
Speaker 1: to cut immediately to like her waiting outside with Brady
Speaker 1: and not it felt like either I couldn't tell that
Speaker 1: it was a time jip. It felt like an alternate timeline,
Speaker 1: you know. This is That's how all of it felt,
Speaker 1: that time and space. Every episode it was like five
Speaker 1: years later. I was like, what, but this is this
Speaker 1: is my thing about the hair is like I'm unsure
Speaker 1: of what the comment is they're making there because the
Speaker 1: first episode when when when Charlotte, who we haven't even
Speaker 1: spoken about, says to her, I like the red go
Speaker 1: back to the red, and Miranda's like, I'm aging gracefully please,
Speaker 1: Like I'm I like this, I feel good. And I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, Miranda's right, like she does look amazing,
Speaker 1: she'd trait. I adjusted to it, and then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden she has the red hair and I'm like,
Speaker 1: what is the Yeah, there's something something that I can't
Speaker 1: put my finger on with Miranda that I feel like
Speaker 1: needs to get a little bit more hammered in in
Speaker 1: the second season because thenatically I'm I'm just confused with Miranda, right,
Speaker 1: Like when Miranda always tried to follow like this guideline
Speaker 1: of life and then this season they sort of blew
Speaker 1: it up and then at the end, at least I
Speaker 1: think at the end, maybe they were trying to comment
Speaker 1: like Miranda can make up her own guidelines. She doesn't
Speaker 1: have to keep gray hair because she always believed as
Speaker 1: a woman, you have to age with the gray hair.
Speaker 1: You can have the red right if you want. But
Speaker 1: she's also blowing up her life. All of her choices
Speaker 1: are like not, okay, Yeah, I wonder what happens to
Speaker 1: Steve in the second season. I wonder if that obviously Yeah,
Speaker 1: you do a good Yeah, the Steve impression is really
Speaker 1: good on the podcast. I mean, I want more for Steve,
Speaker 1: don't we all want? What if Steve just got like
Speaker 1: a smoke show new wife and like we see him
Speaker 1: fuck the ship at him. That's what I want for Steve. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he's like, I K that was more. That was
Speaker 1: some sort of gremlin. It's no you described it on
Speaker 1: on your podcast. It's um it's like Dorinda and yes, yes,
Speaker 1: it's it's all of that. Um. So, speaking of your pod, yes,
Speaker 1: now you cover the Real Housewives franchise, and what you
Speaker 1: well you've told us when you came in was that
Speaker 1: you've just seen the finale of the well, no, not
Speaker 1: the finale, it's the penultimate episode. Oh it's not the
Speaker 1: How could it not be a million episode when this episode,
Speaker 1: when this podcast comes out, there'll be a finale left. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's that's yes, yes, but we're okay. So we're recording
Speaker 1: this before Sunday's episode on the sixth, right, so the
Speaker 1: pen ultimate episode though, I mean they're still It opens
Speaker 1: in Zion of course, last week we have a million years,
Speaker 1: So Lisa Barlow is behind she's doing the hot mic moment.
Speaker 1: She's like calling her friend a garbage and it opens
Speaker 1: with that, and it just keeps getting more and more chaotic.
Speaker 1: It like it's everything is crazy. There's Lisa takes off
Speaker 1: her top and she's just running around in a sports
Speaker 1: proser like yelling about her best friend at ten years
Speaker 1: being a whore, you know, run around the house, they're
Speaker 1: all fighting, Lisa's trying to pack her bags. It's just
Speaker 1: like pure chaos. So you would say that the hot
Speaker 1: mic moment bleeds into life keeps going. I I expected
Speaker 1: with the Zion trip. Every week, I thought they can't
Speaker 1: heighten anymore, right, like they're gonna go downhill, And it's
Speaker 1: like every week it gets crazier and crazier. All the
Speaker 1: women are completely unhinged. They hate the mother heeds like
Speaker 1: a dog with the bone, with the Meredith and the
Speaker 1: memorial thing and the father's thing, and so she just
Speaker 1: keeps going, and like Meredith is like, she's like, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna tell you it's my fucking father. You know.
Speaker 1: She's really losing, and it just keeps going. And it's
Speaker 1: so funny because in this week's episode, Lisa just without
Speaker 1: with the bra. It's like a sports bra, but she's
Speaker 1: just running around and I feel like she finally gave
Speaker 1: up trying to like look normal on camera. And I
Speaker 1: really think that Lisa was most mad about the taco
Speaker 1: bell comment, which she's trying to make it seem like
Speaker 1: she's most mad about, like Meredith said that she wasn't
Speaker 1: a good friend or something like that. But Lisa is
Speaker 1: very clearly triggered by the fact that Mary said she
Speaker 1: doesn't give the kids nutrients and she gives them taco
Speaker 1: about which, by the way, you and your husband, your children,
Speaker 1: they need new nutrients. That is that is almost you
Speaker 1: smell like hospital. I would I would call it like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, if you smell like hospital, is an A plus,
Speaker 1: like thank God, it really longs for you. Nutrients is
Speaker 1: B B plus. I would give it a minus. Can
Speaker 1: you need nutrients? I've always been antimary, but hearing her
Speaker 1: say you need nutrients may meet my sister and my
Speaker 1: mother scream you need nutrients because because you know what
Speaker 1: it is. It's not it's like, it is very personal.
Speaker 1: It's like you don't feed your family, correct mom, It's
Speaker 1: it's it's it's like you hear it, and I'm not
Speaker 1: surprised to hear that. She can't let it go because
Speaker 1: it's the thing that you hear and then you think
Speaker 1: about it and you're like, wait, what the fund does
Speaker 1: she say to me, like she says, I'm a that's
Speaker 1: I'm a bad mother. Wait can I spoil? Yeah, the
Speaker 1: listeners we but Lisa. Then there's another scene after she
Speaker 1: gets back from Zion and she's around the family with
Speaker 1: her family and she got a grill and she's cooking
Speaker 1: asparagus wrapped in baking and she's like she's telling the cameras.
Speaker 1: I love my grill, like I just love my grill,
Speaker 1: and she's cooking for the kids, and so it's like
Speaker 1: very clear that's what triggered her. Was like to talk
Speaker 1: about she doesn't I don't think she really give a
Speaker 1: shit about Meredith. It's all the taco belt thing, but
Speaker 1: she can't say, like, I'm so fucking pissed this woman
Speaker 1: said I like taco bell. That's a really really good
Speaker 1: observation and it's something that would not have been that
Speaker 1: obvious to me. That's really good. I mean, you know what,
Speaker 1: you know, what really struck me about the whole thing
Speaker 1: is like you could tell that chemically something happened because
Speaker 1: her voice, like she she when she was I hate Meredith,
Speaker 1: like when she was saying that, I'm not like she
Speaker 1: was like shaking age, horror, fucked have New York. When
Speaker 1: when she was getting into all that, I was like, Wow,
Speaker 1: this is like a true unmasking. And to hear you
Speaker 1: say like she stopped trying to posture at all for
Speaker 1: the cameras, which I wrestle with whether or not I
Speaker 1: feel I feel she's being her authentic, insane self, like
Speaker 1: with the prom of it all and everything or if
Speaker 1: she is posturing and I think we now know the answer.
Speaker 1: We now know the answer. It reminds me of when
Speaker 1: Erica would cry on Beverly Hills behind a closed door,
Speaker 1: and like you would hear her sob at way that
Speaker 1: you're like, this is not how people cry in front
Speaker 1: of other people? Does that make sense? Like like that
Speaker 1: was Eric's voice like dropped when she was crying to you.
Speaker 1: I forget what you pissed me off With Beverly Hills, though,
Speaker 1: is they didn't go behind the bathroom door or follow
Speaker 1: it afterwards. It just ended with and at least on
Speaker 1: Salta City, they're like, no, you guys are still filming.
Speaker 1: They filmed for two hours after that. It's like we're
Speaker 1: just gonna keep going. Who is your favorite housewife that
Speaker 1: you've had on Everything Iconic because you've had so many
Speaker 1: of them on you Really, I do love Heather Gay
Speaker 1: a lot. I think she's like I think she's just
Speaker 1: a normal, wonderful human being, Like I love, I love her.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think like Karen Huger is like a
Speaker 1: dream to me. I love Karen Hunger like she's just
Speaker 1: such good TV. I never want to stop following Karen Huger.
Speaker 1: She's she's truly wonderful, special, very special. You know, all
Speaker 1: the women are not I mean not all of them.
Speaker 1: But like I've said this before, like that's my favorite
Speaker 1: franchise because it feels like I would like to be
Speaker 1: friends with most of the women on right show. I
Speaker 1: love Dr Wendy too. I know you just had Dr Wendy.
Speaker 1: We love her. She was she was really really cool,
Speaker 1: you know. And we almost had Whitney Rose on, and
Speaker 1: I mean the tea is that we were in the
Speaker 1: d MS with Whitney, like we had gone back and
Speaker 1: forth on Twitter a bunch, and we were going to
Speaker 1: have Whitney on. We were really excited because we love
Speaker 1: Whitney um and she was gonna be our second ever
Speaker 1: housewife and then she damned destin. She goes, oh, I'm
Speaker 1: so sorry. I really want to come on like you
Speaker 1: guys will be the first thing I do. But Bravo
Speaker 1: has asked the cast of Salt Salt Lake to not
Speaker 1: do any outside press right now. And we figured that
Speaker 1: it was right after the Mary thought it was a
Speaker 1: merry thing because they were like, oh, they must not
Speaker 1: want anyone to comment on Mary's absence at the reunion
Speaker 1: because they don't know how they're handling it yet. Three
Speaker 1: days later, the Jenny Facebook post came out. I don't
Speaker 1: know that they were trying to get ahead of that.
Speaker 1: I don't think how could they have known that this
Speaker 1: on a on a reddit that like it was going
Speaker 1: to drop. I think a lot of it is just
Speaker 1: trying to shield, which I think is smart. Even though
Speaker 1: I love talking to these women, I think it's smart
Speaker 1: to kind of keep them under a lock because it's like,
Speaker 1: all this stuff that's playing on this season, I don't
Speaker 1: think any of us expected. I think I went into
Speaker 1: the season thinking we had the gen Shaw at all,
Speaker 1: and which wasn't not yeah, and it's like that's nothing
Speaker 1: here or and then the married church stuff is sort
Speaker 1: of like a c plot too. But it's like, so,
Speaker 1: I think it's good that we're not knowing exactly what's
Speaker 1: going on, um, and I'm excited about that. I heard
Speaker 1: things I've heard about the unions, like Meredith is like goes,
Speaker 1: you know, it's completely insane, which I understand because it
Speaker 1: seems like they just keep poking at her. Well, what
Speaker 1: I heard was that they watched they had watched the
Speaker 1: rest of the episodes the day before and because Andy,
Speaker 1: because Andy said on Whattred Happens Live with Meredith and
Speaker 1: Bridget Everett that like he looks at the camera, He's like, well,
Speaker 1: just for the people at home, Meredith, like all the
Speaker 1: women watched that episode the day before the reunion, So
Speaker 1: what you what you will see at the union is
Speaker 1: a very and I think he said raw response to that,
Speaker 1: and Meredith went, yeah, I mean, come on, she didn't
Speaker 1: even know that her friend had said all that. Imagine
Speaker 1: watching it, of course. And I will say Meredith represented
Speaker 1: herself very well on what it Happens Life like moments
Speaker 1: after you wat she's very poised. And the thing about
Speaker 1: Meredith is like she is so unbothered in her in
Speaker 1: her day to day to see her spiral on the
Speaker 1: show like this is so fun. It's it's not. I
Speaker 1: don't think it's fun. I'm enjoying it. I'm watching her
Speaker 1: be like I mean, I want her to be okay,
Speaker 1: but I think she she seems okay. I just I
Speaker 1: watched her and I go, she's more agitated and perturbed
Speaker 1: than like Jen shot at this point. But okay, let's
Speaker 1: let's all remember her dad died, like right, And I
Speaker 1: think sometimes it's viewers because it's like a week to
Speaker 1: week thing and we're watching over the course of a
Speaker 1: couple of months. It's like for her in real time,
Speaker 1: her dad died maybe three weeks ago or something. I
Speaker 1: to be a fucking nut, came mess like a net
Speaker 1: case and then have to film and all these people
Speaker 1: are then saying you're made up something about your father
Speaker 1: more or whatever. I would fucking lose it. And she
Speaker 1: also she also, like you remember from the early episodes,
Speaker 1: had a very difficult time with the passing, like it
Speaker 1: wasn't a thing, even though he was sick for a while.
Speaker 1: And she says, like, you know, I lost him um
Speaker 1: emotionally and mentally a while ago, but I didn't realize
Speaker 1: how difficult the time I would have to lose him physically.
Speaker 1: And she she was devastated. So to see her triggered
Speaker 1: by this is unsurprising. And I do think that you're right.
Speaker 1: We forget in terms of proximity. I think because we're
Speaker 1: also watching and just like that which goes back in
Speaker 1: time five, we can we as viewers, and the crossover
Speaker 1: there is sometimes I I don't I forget what universe.
Speaker 1: I'm in like my Cross five bar and just like that,
Speaker 1: because both are often surreal that I forget what time
Speaker 1: in space I'm in. Yellow Jack gets you understand. It's
Speaker 1: very mcgreen, it's surreal. It's Lady Gaga to press tour. Yes,
Speaker 1: it sends memory. Yeah, yeah, we are really in a
Speaker 1: surreal time. And I'm not saying I think this season
Speaker 1: of Salt Lake City is one of the greatest seasons
Speaker 1: we've ever had, absolutely, I trust. I think between the
Speaker 1: three the US, I'm probably the least literate or versed
Speaker 1: in the in the you don't watch every franchise. I
Speaker 1: don't watch every franchise, and I feel like I need
Speaker 1: to correct that, but there's just such a bad So Okay,
Speaker 1: I get asked this all the time, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you because I'm not
Speaker 1: the person to tell you. And I'm sure you get
Speaker 1: You've been asked this a million times. What is your
Speaker 1: like general entry point for someone who wants to watch it?
Speaker 1: It kind of depends on like what what you like? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love New York season one to three. Those to me,
Speaker 1: season in three of New York City is like my peak,
Speaker 1: Like I like to me it Also it was the
Speaker 1: first Housewives trip to which if I kind of set
Speaker 1: the template for what these would become and so, and
Speaker 1: it also was Luanne singing a song for the first time.
Speaker 1: So you get a lot of like those these tropes
Speaker 1: that we all just accept now, which are sucking crazy,
Speaker 1: but you get a lot of that. And then the
Speaker 1: early seasons of Atlanta to me are like Atlanta and absolutely, yeah,
Speaker 1: when it was good, it was it was just the best.
Speaker 1: And I always like Atlanta, but like those early seasons
Speaker 1: to Mere nine Kim, like those people be bop in
Speaker 1: around town. It's just like the best. It's incredible. And
Speaker 1: then Jersey with like the family stuff, those early seasons,
Speaker 1: like when Melissa came in season three, that season three
Speaker 1: opener is like one of the greatest hours of television,
Speaker 1: the christmasting. Yeah, there's do you watch Jersey? I I
Speaker 1: here and there, I'll watch it. It is my favorite.
Speaker 1: So so it now it's back, and it's going to
Speaker 1: be a really good season. And actually I had never
Speaker 1: seen it at all, and then I had COVID like
Speaker 1: a month ago, and I was like, well, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: watch and I don't know why I avoided it. I
Speaker 1: think because I'm from Long Island. It's like a little
Speaker 1: too real. I felt. I was like, I'm going, you
Speaker 1: notice you know those people a little bit. Well, I'm
Speaker 1: not Italian, but I was around so many Italian people.
Speaker 1: So when I see Dolores Catania, like, she's such a
Speaker 1: warm spot for me, Like she reminds me of all
Speaker 1: my mother's friends. Like you know what I mean, And
Speaker 1: I'm imagining Dolores is a dream. Yeah you've had her, Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's I mean, she reminds me of all my cousins
Speaker 1: and stuff. It's like a lot of those women though,
Speaker 1: I think so like that's that's what it is. It's
Speaker 1: like it's very like it reminds me of my mother,
Speaker 1: I think friends and like so. But but Jersey, when
Speaker 1: it gets truly crazy, is insane because they they don't
Speaker 1: It's almost like they don't know the cameras are there
Speaker 1: in a way that the other women on other franchises don't.
Speaker 1: Like they seem to not give a fuck. And I've
Speaker 1: been complaining because I want new blood on Jersey because
Speaker 1: they don't change up the castlet. But on the flip
Speaker 1: side of that, I do think there's like a benefit
Speaker 1: in having these women there year after year after year,
Speaker 1: because they develop a stronger bond and so like the
Speaker 1: relationships can can break and bend more than someone coming
Speaker 1: in for the first time, a first season person who
Speaker 1: is going to leave in a season or two. I
Speaker 1: feel like there's a deeper thing happening. But everyone talks
Speaker 1: about the Jersey table flip, which of course what put
Speaker 1: that sort of on the map. But I think that
Speaker 1: Christening is even better. I think that basically it's like like,
Speaker 1: and this is where you meet Melissa, this is where
Speaker 1: you meant Melissa and Joe Gorga, who's essentially two on
Speaker 1: the honestly right, Teresa's brother, Joe Gorgon, And so basically
Speaker 1: they have a christening for their son, and Teresa is
Speaker 1: you don't know this, but Teresa is pissed that Melissa
Speaker 1: is on the show, like like pissed, like whether it's
Speaker 1: for ego reasons or she didn't want to fight with
Speaker 1: her family on camera, and it was mad at the producers.
Speaker 1: They get into a fight and they make a war
Speaker 1: zone out of this christening, and it's crazy. It's like
Speaker 1: Shakespeare and Apparata. I don't know, it's so so good,
Speaker 1: and Jersey has also got that family vibe to where
Speaker 1: it's like when Melissa and Teresa are fighting, it's like
Speaker 1: they're an actual family. Or with Kathy, when Kathy and
Speaker 1: Rosie there was like all these big fights between a family,
Speaker 1: and it's like even if they're putting it on for
Speaker 1: the show, it's like that's their real life family. I
Speaker 1: don't know, there's a deeper feeling when you watch it,
Speaker 1: and so I mean that's when Housewives is that it's
Speaker 1: best when it is when it feels Shakespearean, right, it
Speaker 1: often does, I think. I mean, if if the template
Speaker 1: is soap operas, then oftentimes on soap operas it is
Speaker 1: about a family, you know what I mean. Like so
Speaker 1: like I think that that's what I like about and
Speaker 1: it's kind of getting to know who I would have
Speaker 1: been like in the eighties and nineties, like I would
Speaker 1: have been someone who watched soaps, I think, because this
Speaker 1: I just enjoy these dynamics so much and like the
Speaker 1: fact that it can only go so far really and
Speaker 1: then when it goes a little further, like when someone
Speaker 1: does get pushed down the stairs, and a soap opera
Speaker 1: is sort of akin to like when you see Monique
Speaker 1: and can just get into it and that thing you're like,
Speaker 1: it's so, it's just interesting, and I do think there
Speaker 1: is something too, And I think that that's some franchises
Speaker 1: really fail, like like, for example, last season of New
Speaker 1: York because like, I don't want to watch women who
Speaker 1: don't know each other talk about something like right right,
Speaker 1: and if it feels like they wouldn't hang out normally,
Speaker 1: I know that we have to pretend a little bit,
Speaker 1: Like but on Orange County, I'm watching and I'm like,
Speaker 1: none of you would be friends at all. Like it's
Speaker 1: so we're so forced to try to pretend you guys
Speaker 1: like each other and we can clearly see that you don't.
Speaker 1: They basically put this like Patty Harrison character named Noela
Speaker 1: on the show this year, who is on and it's
Speaker 1: just like, what is going on? It's just like trying
Speaker 1: to see Shannon Ben to pretend like she's friends with Noel,
Speaker 1: and Noella at least is bringing something to the show.
Speaker 1: But it's like I don't think Shannon has friends with her,
Speaker 1: but we're pretending to what end? To what end? I
Speaker 1: will say that, um, Ultimate Girls Trip I have, I
Speaker 1: have not finished it. But I find it to be
Speaker 1: a great entry point for people because you are getting
Speaker 1: like a seafood tower sampling of like all of us,
Speaker 1: that analogy, you know, like it's like it's like every
Speaker 1: like all the best people. And then it does fill
Speaker 1: you in. It gives you context on like what the
Speaker 1: dynamics are, and like you do kind of get a
Speaker 1: little bit of the Melissa Teresa Yes dynamic in there,
Speaker 1: the remote you get all the Remota stuff, Like it's
Speaker 1: like a little bibliography. And I kind of really enjoyed that.
Speaker 1: And to hear Luanne talking about like her cameos and stuff,
Speaker 1: to me it was just like that was the amount
Speaker 1: of money she makes on cameo? Did you get to that?
Speaker 1: I haven't she makes she she claims to make like
Speaker 1: a hundred thousand dollars a year. Yeah, I mean, and
Speaker 1: I think did she like talk about how much time
Speaker 1: she spends and you gotta do your lou Is like
Speaker 1: it's like a sesame strick character, but it's really just
Speaker 1: cookie monster, your grandpa. Really it really feels like lude
Speaker 1: to me when you do it. Also, I have to
Speaker 1: say I have to commend you on I think my
Speaker 1: favorite sound effect of any podcast that do do do?
Speaker 1: Like that comes in when something spooky happens. Some you
Speaker 1: reference something the other day, like something on Salt like
Speaker 1: se I think it was like Seth's behavior or something
Speaker 1: like who's who's truly crazy? Like he does something or
Speaker 1: like someone does something and you just hit the doll.
Speaker 1: I really almost drove off the road and entertain myself
Speaker 1: because I'm recording alone, so I always like using the soundboard.
Speaker 1: And when I got that soundboard, a couple of people
Speaker 1: complained early on, and I remember somebody said, like somebody said,
Speaker 1: I I listened to your podcast. You know, people say
Speaker 1: they listen to your podcast to fall asleep to or something.
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, you're gonna have to listen to it
Speaker 1: during the day. If it scares you awake, then like's
Speaker 1: not all podcasts or SMR like you can't, you can't,
Speaker 1: that can't be your relation. Like I gotta entertain myself.
Speaker 1: I'm playing with I'm having fun and if you want
Speaker 1: to come on board and have fun too, you can
Speaker 1: come on board. If not, I get it, are you
Speaker 1: reading off of notes? Like like are you just kind
Speaker 1: of crazy chicken strat scratch so affective? But then but
Speaker 1: that's like mostly like the that's how like the connective
Speaker 1: tissue gets like laid out. It's like you're just kind
Speaker 1: of reading this and you're like okay, and you're just
Speaker 1: kind of waxing. Yeah, And I try to go off
Speaker 1: like if if I'm talking about something, I don't know
Speaker 1: what we could go. I was talking Beethoven's second came up,
Speaker 1: and I just like ten minutes on Beeton's if on
Speaker 1: beethoven second, and also do you have you remember the
Speaker 1: second Beethoven? Yes? I did. I was like I couldn't believe.
Speaker 1: The daughter's name is Rice. Her name is like the start. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm familiar, you know, Beethoven A second comes to my mind.
Speaker 1: Then I'm gonna spend ten minutes talking about beetub and second,
Speaker 1: if you enjoy that, come on board. If that, I mean,
Speaker 1: it really is a skill like it's an art. It's
Speaker 1: I don't think either of us do that one. Greta
Speaker 1: does it great, friend, Greta does it wonderfully. Certain people
Speaker 1: do it really well. And I don't think it was
Speaker 1: too hard for me to book people all the time.
Speaker 1: It was like I got to play. I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm just too tired, you know, I'm a one man
Speaker 1: band over there, so it's like I'm just I'm tired
Speaker 1: of like going around with people's publicists or directly or
Speaker 1: whatever and people cancel. I'm like, you know whatever, I think,
Speaker 1: it's not it's it's really great though. So you often
Speaker 1: will do like a thirty minute ish recap and then
Speaker 1: have like an interview which feels like minutes. Yeah, Like
Speaker 1: I have people on that I like, and you know,
Speaker 1: if if I want to have someone on. I love
Speaker 1: having guests on, but I don't try im. I do
Speaker 1: it on my own and then if if there's time
Speaker 1: I have a guest. If I want to have a guest,
Speaker 1: I do or through a bonus episode. If I want
Speaker 1: to have a guest on, I'll just say yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you do the video element, to which I always feel like,
Speaker 1: but I love the video, all of it. This is
Speaker 1: too much worth, It's like and then cutting like a
Speaker 1: social media clip and it's just right right, and you
Speaker 1: gotta put your face on for that. I was leaving
Speaker 1: the house to come here, and my boyfriends like, you're
Speaker 1: wearing that because I was like that I look like
Speaker 1: a farmer or something. I was like, they're not recording
Speaker 1: video I was like, you look, you look great. Your
Speaker 1: boyfriend's name is Matt too, right, so many of us
Speaker 1: out there. One of the most popular names culture Richard.
Speaker 1: I don't have one, Yeah, but yours, Michael Michael, Daniel
Speaker 1: Michael author, boring, No, No, Pellegreeno is it's it's just
Speaker 1: and you know what's it's also a sparkling water. I know,
Speaker 1: but it just but it I wish related to the
Speaker 1: water that I don't have any of that. Well, don't
Speaker 1: worry about that that that that would be like a
Speaker 1: weight on your consciousness. But like I feel like Pellegreeno,
Speaker 1: it's an effervescent name. I get lifted. Wait, can I
Speaker 1: say I was listening to your last week's episode. I'm
Speaker 1: interrupting you. Guys were talking about Katie Perry and the
Speaker 1: great American song but yeah, like what would be ada?
Speaker 1: And I just was shouting through the screen as I
Speaker 1: was listening, like to me, teenage Dream, it's like one
Speaker 1: of the greatest pop songs ever made, Like, I think
Speaker 1: that's a flawless master. Didn't It's one of Max Martin's
Speaker 1: favorite songs. Song. I was saying, didn't you know that
Speaker 1: the second you heard it? What Teenage Dream was whatever.
Speaker 1: I remember where I was. I was in my bedroom
Speaker 1: at home, my parents house, like summer after freshman year
Speaker 1: of college. It's timeless, it's time less. You know what's
Speaker 1: crazy is it's like Katie like that album, the Teenage
Speaker 1: Dream album is front to back, And what's weird is
Speaker 1: like her recent albums like are decidedly not so is
Speaker 1: it a thing of like was it dr Luke World
Speaker 1: that song? I'm not sure? Maybe? And sometimes I'm just like, gosh,
Speaker 1: like we we gotta get more people on the map
Speaker 1: who are really brilliant pop songwriters, because I just wonder
Speaker 1: how some of these songs on Witness get there? Sure,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like, sometimes I'm just like
Speaker 1: how did this make the final track list? Not to drag,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, when you know an artist is
Speaker 1: capable of a front to back teenage Dream moment, it's
Speaker 1: like maybe and maybe there is something to like when
Speaker 1: a pop star does that front to back pop thing. Hooks, hooks, hooks.
Speaker 1: They want to get more experimental, they want to like
Speaker 1: be sonically challenged themselves, but I really just want the hits.
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like I have no understanding of
Speaker 1: like how labels step in and or like there should
Speaker 1: be a song that's like this and like this and
Speaker 1: like this, Like I feel like that kind of intervenes
Speaker 1: and shapes a lot of it. I don't know, I
Speaker 1: really don't know. I think that that's probably a lot
Speaker 1: of it. And it's just like an imperial face thing
Speaker 1: where it's like, you know, like they can do whatever
Speaker 1: they want, but only within a certain window, you know.
Speaker 1: And I don't believe. Actually the Teenage Dream album is great,
Speaker 1: but to me, Teenage Dream the song is is timeless
Speaker 1: more so than the other songs. I love those other hits,
Speaker 1: but like, what do you mean Hummingbird, Heartbeat, like being
Speaker 1: the great global So what was the like the end
Speaker 1: singles like that towards the end of the cycle. There
Speaker 1: they did really I I liked, I love what we're
Speaker 1: saying you're saying before um the like the one that
Speaker 1: got away was not when it got away um et p.
Speaker 1: Pearl wasn't a thing like to me, those are good,
Speaker 1: but not forever songs Teenage Dream, when I'm like, that's
Speaker 1: the best song, Yeah, yeah, I feel the way we
Speaker 1: found love too, I feel like that song to me
Speaker 1: is perfect song it's like since you've been gone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there you go. Yeah, it's like since've I also arguably
Speaker 1: love My life would suck without You almost as much
Speaker 1: as since the title for me is tough, but it's
Speaker 1: such a fun song. It's a great thing like and I.
Speaker 1: But the thing that bothers me about my life would
Speaker 1: suck without you and that era is that I know
Speaker 1: how she didn't She didn't, She don't, she didn't love it.
Speaker 1: And that was following my December, which was like such
Speaker 1: a low point for her because they bailed on her
Speaker 1: so hard. So I feel like all I ever wanted
Speaker 1: that album is like her like White Flag being like, yeah,
Speaker 1: whatever what you want to do, we can do like
Speaker 1: and that's how we got my life? What's up without you?
Speaker 1: And um, I do not hook up? Which was people
Speaker 1: like Katie Berry, I'll goes back around there you go, Um,
Speaker 1: Danny should be ask you the question. We have to
Speaker 1: ask Danny the question, Danny, what is the culture that
Speaker 1: made you say culture is for you? Rosie o'donald show.
Speaker 1: I know people are I talk about Rosio donald Show
Speaker 1: all the time, and I know it's probably exhausting for people,
Speaker 1: but to me, that was it for me. I remember
Speaker 1: watching every school with my grandma, with my mom. I
Speaker 1: loved Rosie o'donald show. She was the first influencer I'm
Speaker 1: I thought it was a perfect talk show. She loved
Speaker 1: pop culture as we do, you know, and it showed
Speaker 1: and I loved her. Did you guys watch almost every
Speaker 1: single day? I remember like it was like some days
Speaker 1: I would like say a prayer to be sick so
Speaker 1: I could like stay home the next day and watch
Speaker 1: Rosio o'donald and also got to give it up to
Speaker 1: Regis and Kelly. Yeah, I mean just like I remember,
Speaker 1: like I always want to end the view, which can
Speaker 1: I interrupt you them and just say Kelly Rippa is
Speaker 1: underrated as a talk show host. And I don't think
Speaker 1: people give her the flowers that she doesn't because she
Speaker 1: is so charming, and I think she makes it look
Speaker 1: effortless in a way that people think she's just okay,
Speaker 1: or or that she just doesn't get her flowers. And
Speaker 1: I think if you watch Kelly Ripper, she's so fucking
Speaker 1: good at it, but people don't give her the credit.
Speaker 1: I think that she doesn't, right. I think I think
Speaker 1: it's the pairing of it all I think it's that
Speaker 1: she's carried with someone, which is probably either her choice
Speaker 1: and I don't know, but you're right. I completely agree.
Speaker 1: She's so good. I can talk for hours to sit
Speaker 1: back because we got a lot of talk about it.
Speaker 1: Have you have you seen this video of hers where
Speaker 1: she's talking about everything she's in a day. Maybe she
Speaker 1: describes this this thing she does. Have we talked about this,
Speaker 1: I don't think where she's like, she does this thing
Speaker 1: where she orders the same dish from multiple restaurants. Like
Speaker 1: let's say she wants a pad tie, shrimp pad tie.
Speaker 1: She will order shrimp pad tie from six or seven
Speaker 1: different tire restaurants in her area. At the same time,
Speaker 1: she's like, I love doing She she goes, I love
Speaker 1: doing this. I do this all the time. Don't you
Speaker 1: guys do this? Oh my god, six of the same
Speaker 1: dish from six different restaurants. They all come to her
Speaker 1: house and then she's like, and then we just like
Speaker 1: sample them and then we just like figure out which
Speaker 1: one is the best. It's so it's fine, It's like,
Speaker 1: it's I guess it's fine. It's a waste of money,
Speaker 1: A waste of money and food and the fact that
Speaker 1: you don't see that you're coming across a certain way
Speaker 1: by saying, Oh, I just don't you guys do this.
Speaker 1: It's crazy, But that's what we love about Tyra, isn't.
Speaker 1: It's like I want to get she's just like that
Speaker 1: and that she's magreet, surreal. I did. I will share
Speaker 1: this the hardest I've ever I'm sorry, this is such
Speaker 1: a name drop. Again, the hardest I've ever seen. Lauren
Speaker 1: Michael's laugh was we were at hosting or mean Eggo
Speaker 1: and Chloe, like, you know, on one side of the
Speaker 1: host their dinner table, like they're having a conversation aside,
Speaker 1: but like the three of us, I'm like, I bring
Speaker 1: up the whole like rabies episode of the tire Banks
Speaker 1: Pop Show, as I was describing it as like she
Speaker 1: starts barking like a dog, as if getting rabies means
Speaker 1: you turn into a dog. And then I turn and
Speaker 1: see Lauren burst out laughing like it was the funniest
Speaker 1: thing he'd ever He's like, he's like, what Tyrashi host? Tyra? Yeah,
Speaker 1: should host? Oh my god, I need she hosted before.
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know that's a good I don't think so.
Speaker 1: She's been on Mad TV for sure. I think she's
Speaker 1: definitely no, no, no, no no, that's not true. No, no,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking of her being on Fresh Princes, which is
Speaker 1: why am I No? That's well okay, so I literally
Speaker 1: just almost said we need tire Banks to come back
Speaker 1: into the conversation completely forgetting that she is the EXE,
Speaker 1: which is a train wreck like you've never seen and
Speaker 1: it is It is mcgreeds surreal to watch Tyra host
Speaker 1: that show because she is always wearing something insane that
Speaker 1: I have those crazy themes, like she'll dress up and
Speaker 1: like just to just to like see them come back
Speaker 1: from commercial, watch her find the camera and say we're back,
Speaker 1: like it's just like whoa and the fans of dancing
Speaker 1: when it starts, like hate her as a host thing.
Speaker 1: My LAMB calls me every week and it's like I
Speaker 1: don't like that Tyra on the show. She messes up
Speaker 1: all the time. Like one time she was like we
Speaker 1: have our bottom two and I'm now being told that
Speaker 1: it's not the bottom too. The car was wrong and
Speaker 1: that was my lo and now we're going to bring
Speaker 1: back someone I just said was safe and it's this
Speaker 1: is the situation or whoever the fun and you're actually out.
Speaker 1: It's like once she puts them through because like something
Speaker 1: is wrong, like some conk in the wheel is like
Speaker 1: not going, like whether it's production or her, but you can.
Speaker 1: It's so funny because like you can literally feel the
Speaker 1: chaos behind the cameras like no no, no, no, no
Speaker 1: no no, like they're just freaking up because she can't
Speaker 1: do it. Do you remember when she tried to fake
Speaker 1: her sickness on America's Next Top Model and she's I'm
Speaker 1: just not really feeling really oh yeah, and then she's
Speaker 1: sucking eats ship and starts seizing. She's gonna do so
Speaker 1: many moments like she's on the Tyra Banks Show theme
Speaker 1: or the Fat to remember remember when she um kind
Speaker 1: of fronted her fear of dolphins on the Tyrapic Show.
Speaker 1: She she is entertainment giving away Vassaline, just losing it,
Speaker 1: her fucking ship, losing giving away Vasiline. The Naomi Campbell
Speaker 1: interview like that why that is actually an iconic television
Speaker 1: It's crazy, It's it's an amazing episode when when she
Speaker 1: when she's telling Naomi like and I want you to
Speaker 1: know that you hurt me and while I do forgive
Speaker 1: you that hurt will never go away and not even
Speaker 1: just goes for me. It's not that deep. It's not
Speaker 1: that And then when they came back, I remember like
Speaker 1: they came back from commercial on that and like she
Speaker 1: had just had like it's not that deep. And I
Speaker 1: remember like then we turned to her and she was like,
Speaker 1: I want to apologize for what I said. I validate
Speaker 1: you and I'm sorry, and she like and you could
Speaker 1: tell that, like producer just had to step in and
Speaker 1: be like, hey, like, don't you don't mean it like
Speaker 1: you have we have to have conflict. She came in
Speaker 1: just ready to be like I'm so sorry, Like imagine
Speaker 1: producing that show with her, like just like the chaos
Speaker 1: I do not. I feel like the comparison is not
Speaker 1: terribly sophisticated, but like I feel like Tyres set up
Speaker 1: a lot of the high drinks that the tone of
Speaker 1: Wendy Williams like this like show where like the audience
Speaker 1: is like so like oh my god, like like the
Speaker 1: audience and now we're can go back to Rosie. Like
Speaker 1: with Rosie was always like you're watching this person like
Speaker 1: just be like so charming. And I think we I
Speaker 1: think we eventually went into this era of daytime talk
Speaker 1: where like the hosts were fully unhinged, like that was
Speaker 1: a show like that was not always the case, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think Rosie was like a watershed because she really was,
Speaker 1: like she was so good at being herself that you
Speaker 1: genuinely felt that you knew her, which I think is
Speaker 1: why when she started to pull back the curtain on
Speaker 1: like the darker parts of who she was, like, America
Speaker 1: felt like a little like weird about a different side
Speaker 1: of her. Yeah, and they weren't, like people were not
Speaker 1: ready for that dimensionality. She even used to stay back
Speaker 1: in the talk show. Pre talk show, she was a
Speaker 1: stand up comic and she would go around and she
Speaker 1: had stuff she would talk about Woody Allen and like
Speaker 1: you know, heavier topics and she would swear and all
Speaker 1: that stuff. And I remember her saying when she did
Speaker 1: the talk show, people would come see her do stand
Speaker 1: up and people would walk out or people would because
Speaker 1: that was her bit before the talk show. But for
Speaker 1: the talk show, she was doing MERV Griffin and she
Speaker 1: so she was doing a nice she was. It was
Speaker 1: a different side of her. But then you know, we
Speaker 1: started to see these other sides, and some people liked it.
Speaker 1: Some people didn't, but I also loved her on the View.
Speaker 1: I mean to me that she was the best. I
Speaker 1: think they like the thing is like which that's my well,
Speaker 1: I know that I know your video views like that,
Speaker 1: but that is rosy too, I mean like, and the
Speaker 1: thing is just like what she to me is someone
Speaker 1: who needs to be by herself because people other egos
Speaker 1: can't handle that smooth, Like you can't have a Rosie
Speaker 1: and whoopee, and they couldn't. Like if you read the book, um,
Speaker 1: the Ladies who Punch like, which was great, really fun,
Speaker 1: and it's just so clear that like it really genuinely
Speaker 1: came down to ego and how much space gets taken up,
Speaker 1: and like even when they agree, it's like, no, I
Speaker 1: think that more, you know. I think also Rosie has
Speaker 1: this quality where you hang on every even if you
Speaker 1: disagree with her. I think you hang on what her
Speaker 1: opinion is on something. And so when you have her
Speaker 1: in a panel, I think you're just sort of sitting
Speaker 1: there waiting for what she's gonna say. Right, did you
Speaker 1: ever go to a taping of the View right before
Speaker 1: COVID It was oh great, Oh no, not Rosie. But
Speaker 1: but it's my dream to be one of those people
Speaker 1: on Rosie to like introduce Yes, our friend that when
Speaker 1: he was a kid. Yeah, he was like a Harry
Speaker 1: Potter obsessed. That was like that was his thing. Like
Speaker 1: they brought him because he was obsessed with Harry Potter. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is a little douggy from Boots in Florida. This
Speaker 1: is I wanted that job so bad. What was the
Speaker 1: view experience like for you? It was fun? I went
Speaker 1: right pre COVID. It was like Abby Huntsman, Whoopy Um,
Speaker 1: Megan Sonny and Sarah wasn't there at the time She
Speaker 1: hadn't she had been gone and having him back yet
Speaker 1: and then who Meredith was filling in for Joy? I
Speaker 1: got Meredith? Who I love Meredithira, Oh my god, it's
Speaker 1: great she was there. And but no Joy, I love Joy. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: did they do the dancing contest? They didn't. Okay, well
Speaker 1: you said Whoopy wasn't there? Whoop was? Who was there? Okay?
Speaker 1: No Joy? No Joy. We've we've told the story a
Speaker 1: million times on the podcast, but we when when when
Speaker 1: we went this was fall of um they did they
Speaker 1: did a dance con test where the warm up comic
Speaker 1: is like just you know, picking different sections of the audience,
Speaker 1: like getting everyone to dance and having like you know,
Speaker 1: I guess the panelists they were gonna judge. That was
Speaker 1: the whole thing. It's like, okay, we're gonna do his
Speaker 1: dance contest, and like while while they were getting like
Speaker 1: their touch up during a commercial break, like and and
Speaker 1: and and they're gonna judge. So all right, let's stay
Speaker 1: over here. And it's like this woman like like doing
Speaker 1: like like mom, dancing her arms and like whatever. And
Speaker 1: then the woman turns over to the paddel and goes,
Speaker 1: all right, what do you think? Whoop and whoop. He
Speaker 1: just goes, I don't give a funk about this, and
Speaker 1: we screamed. It was so funny. No one else in
Speaker 1: the room responded. They were like oh, they were like, oh,
Speaker 1: like it was just gonna like this thing of like
Speaker 1: they didn't really get it. And I think the moderate
Speaker 1: to like nervous laughed. But then Sonny stepped in and
Speaker 1: she was like, I think that that woman went over there,
Speaker 1: I really do. I think she was great. And like
Speaker 1: my other favorite line that we did was we're sitting
Speaker 1: We're sitting right by Sonny because Megan was not there.
Speaker 1: Like fucking god, but because I don't think I could
Speaker 1: have had her under now. But um, we're sitting right
Speaker 1: there and Sonny is on the end and it goes
Speaker 1: to commercial and she truly looked amazing. So we bone
Speaker 1: and I at the same time go like, you look amazing, Sunny,
Speaker 1: and she turns to us and she goes, thank you
Speaker 1: so much. You know, when I'm not doing a show,
Speaker 1: I don't even wear makeup. I don't wear makeup at all,
Speaker 1: and we just good for her. We're just like sitting
Speaker 1: there with our mouth and I'm like, amazing, like too
Speaker 1: gays like like gagging or whatever. I don't wear makeup.
Speaker 1: I don't wear makeup at all. What I love about
Speaker 1: Sonny is she's always the one who does the reading
Speaker 1: like any tam author on or she does the She'll
Speaker 1: watch the movie like no one else clearly like does
Speaker 1: any homework. She kind of goes and I read the book.
Speaker 1: Every single does that little look at their eyes, and
Speaker 1: she goes and I read it. Well, I read the
Speaker 1: book and what I thought was really interesting was And
Speaker 1: also I love that she's I have a legal note
Speaker 1: she Isny is like, but she always says twice impeach
Speaker 1: once remood or whatever about Oh yeah, she goes our
Speaker 1: former disgrace twice, impeach every former president. And then it's
Speaker 1: just it's just so funny. This is the thing about
Speaker 1: like these people in the public eye, these ticks that
Speaker 1: they have, these little things are so important and you
Speaker 1: gotta nail it because when you choose to stick with something,
Speaker 1: it's like if that's going to be your thing, like
Speaker 1: that that it has to you mean, like Sonny's choosing
Speaker 1: the right things or I don't know, like who she is,
Speaker 1: like the ticks that she has, like these little things,
Speaker 1: like it's great that they're tolerable and iconic and even
Speaker 1: fun because it's and she also can't help herself, and
Speaker 1: she can't help herse help herself. But to say, and
Speaker 1: I read the book, I think she'd be a good
Speaker 1: housewife against and you know what they were visiting. I
Speaker 1: think it was the Hampton's or something, and like Bethany
Speaker 1: had yelled at Sonny's kids or something. They had homes
Speaker 1: like in the Hampton's next to each other, and they
Speaker 1: don't know each other because Sonny could not be bothered
Speaker 1: with house She just doesn't care, s um and so
Speaker 1: I think she was aware of who Bethany Frankel was.
Speaker 1: But Sonny's kids were like playing on the beach, like
Speaker 1: perfectly fine public domain during the day. Bethany came out
Speaker 1: and screamed at Sonny Houston's kids. So the kids came
Speaker 1: in and they told Sonny like the woman next door
Speaker 1: yelled at us. So Sonny marched over there and knocked
Speaker 1: on the door and gave Bethany the business about like,
Speaker 1: don't yell at my children when they're playing in the
Speaker 1: beach during the day, like shut up. And she's like,
Speaker 1: if you have a problem, you come to me. I'm
Speaker 1: I'm the adult here, like whatever, and Bethany like blew
Speaker 1: her off. And then and she told that story on
Speaker 1: the view and anytime like Bethany sort of comes up
Speaker 1: and she'll she'll do that thing like she does with
Speaker 1: the book to be like, well, you know, I had
Speaker 1: to run in and you know, and and Megan had
Speaker 1: Megan had like one of those things where you could
Speaker 1: see her brain break because because Megan was a fool
Speaker 1: love Bethany. But she like she was talking about bethanygain
Speaker 1: Sonny was like, oh yeah, well I actually met her
Speaker 1: and she was really nasty to my kids and this
Speaker 1: is the story. And Megan was like U and then
Speaker 1: so then she she breaks in half. Andy brought it
Speaker 1: up to Bethany, I'll watch what Happens live, and Bethany said,
Speaker 1: I don't know what she's talking about. I think she
Speaker 1: was drunk or on drugs. I forgot about that. And
Speaker 1: I feel like it comes up on the view like
Speaker 1: a lot, like for some reason, I feel like I've
Speaker 1: heard Sonny tell the story like a million times and
Speaker 1: I love I don't know who's doing it, but I
Speaker 1: love it, Like who's bringing it up all the time. Well,
Speaker 1: I read your book. Well, you know, I ran into
Speaker 1: her once. You know, I read into her once. She
Speaker 1: wasn't very nice. She's the only fucking Wane to read
Speaker 1: the book. Joy's never done any of them. I mean,
Speaker 1: Abby Well used to be good about it. I think, well,
Speaker 1: Abby was like a good student. I think we were there.
Speaker 1: We were there the day that Abby was there. It
Speaker 1: was like when Abby was new. And one thing I
Speaker 1: do remember is like they brought Abby out first to
Speaker 1: do like I think, like like look at spring fashion
Speaker 1: or something, and they were like, okay, everyone, the first
Speaker 1: thing we're gonna do is We're gonna do a quick
Speaker 1: segment with Abby that's going to be on tomorrow. And
Speaker 1: Abby came out and you could tell her she was
Speaker 1: ready for like the audience to go like what and
Speaker 1: I'm almost just like she just didn't work on that show.
Speaker 1: And then she came back recently and I felt like
Speaker 1: they she tried to sort of step it up, but
Speaker 1: it didn't. It just didn't work. She wasn't good. She
Speaker 1: seems like a nice she's just fine. She seems like
Speaker 1: a nice moderate conservative. There you go, there you go.
Speaker 1: We wish her the best. Um Rosie. The thing with
Speaker 1: Rosie two is um she talk about picking things that
Speaker 1: stay in the cultural lexicon. The couch balls have they stayed?
Speaker 1: I have no good point ballad point balid plant. That
Speaker 1: was a good one. Remember the Rosie Elizabeth split screen,
Speaker 1: like come on? That was like, well ever amazing it
Speaker 1: was It was at the split screen. Was was when
Speaker 1: they both knew what was going on, and then they
Speaker 1: just dialed it up like yeah, your own act, she's
Speaker 1: our director. Here, let's go to commercial. That was that
Speaker 1: I would it's not a no and nowhere, who's directing this?
Speaker 1: Let's go to commercial? Who's directing this. I do think
Speaker 1: that Fred Armison, who cares. And also this it's this
Speaker 1: for me, it's it's the picking at this spot in
Speaker 1: your shirt, like it's like a little bit like uncomfortable
Speaker 1: and a little bit I'm too hot. Also it's a
Speaker 1: little bit of a combat because Joy is I feel
Speaker 1: like constantly talking about taking off her brazier, like she
Speaker 1: always talks about like I get home and I take
Speaker 1: off my brasier. Steve's like, what's that, you know? Like
Speaker 1: she's always I feel like mentioning brazier on the show.
Speaker 1: So I almost feel like that's what I took. Like
Speaker 1: Fred was doing like a little like picking at his
Speaker 1: ready to get it off, ready to get off whoever
Speaker 1: whoever decided to put so one who appears in there.
Speaker 1: It's like that thing Sid I was like something that
Speaker 1: someone has never said. But it's also the only thing said.
Speaker 1: You just believe that that's the only thing. Joy says, Now,
Speaker 1: do you know what I heard? What apparently in the
Speaker 1: show I Love Lucy. Ricky never says you've got some
Speaker 1: splaining to do. He says splain. He doesn't say, Lucy,
Speaker 1: You've got some to do. It's but it's that it's
Speaker 1: that thing of like everyone's made up that that someone
Speaker 1: said this to me, and I was like, is that true?
Speaker 1: But apparently it is true that he never says there
Speaker 1: and there are other things like that that aren't necessarily
Speaker 1: like Mandela. In fact, it's not that, like that's what
Speaker 1: it's called, but but it's but that I don't think
Speaker 1: that's what that is either what Mandela fect is like
Speaker 1: bearrett Stein Bears, Bears, Stain Bears, Like it's like there's
Speaker 1: like there's like a bunch of people remember something completely different.
Speaker 1: It's like that shock movie that doesn't exist. One of
Speaker 1: them does, though, isn't there one that does? But people
Speaker 1: think it's something else. We have to get to the
Speaker 1: bottom of this. No, no no, no, there's a whole I like, boom,
Speaker 1: have you ever heard a false memory syndrome? Like remembering
Speaker 1: basically like a therapist. I could be getting the strongest
Speaker 1: I forget, forgive me, but it's like a therapist can
Speaker 1: convince you of something that happened that didn't have Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then every parents worst nightmare, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: Is that like my parents are always like, well, don't
Speaker 1: let your therapist like put memories in here. I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: but I know what they're saying. I did like a
Speaker 1: crazy deep that's what I was thinking, and like this happens,
Speaker 1: like like happened, It happens, and people believe crazy should happen,
Speaker 1: like there's something horrible and their child would happen with
Speaker 1: their mom or dad or whoever. That reminds me actually
Speaker 1: of ebany Ca Williams is one iconic line on Housewives.
Speaker 1: That's gas lighting. That's gas lighting. No, you're gas lighting me,
Speaker 1: You're gaslighting. I don't know what's going to happen with Ronie.
Speaker 1: I think I do, And this is what I this
Speaker 1: is what I want to say. I don't think trend
Speaker 1: they'll be back. I want her back, but I don't think.
Speaker 1: I guess you would know, huh well, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just guess, no, you know. I wish I would
Speaker 1: love them to bring back tont I really think Trenda
Speaker 1: is the key to the franchise. Like I think they
Speaker 1: need her a little bit, and I know she went
Speaker 1: a little nuts and all that stuff. I agree, but
Speaker 1: it was like, yeah, we need that. I want Jill,
Speaker 1: I want Herenda, I want Lou, I want want the
Speaker 1: old girls who feel like they're friends. They all feel
Speaker 1: like they're friends. I want them for I want Leah
Speaker 1: as a friend, make her sweat, um see what she brings.
Speaker 1: Because I don't love Leah, though I did like her
Speaker 1: on Project Runway that the episode with the housewives, um,
Speaker 1: and I want three new people that are like friends
Speaker 1: enough with them and each other that it makes sense.
Speaker 1: But I do think we need to like bring something
Speaker 1: downtown energy in, you know what I mean. Like, I
Speaker 1: think it's like just tired and weird, and I think
Speaker 1: we need to find a I don't think it's as
Speaker 1: simple as rebooting, but I think we need to find
Speaker 1: a bridge between the old that we love about Roney
Speaker 1: that will make people that have watched it keep watching,
Speaker 1: and new energy that feels like it makes sense, which
Speaker 1: maybe is easier said than done. And I really gotta
Speaker 1: say we got we gotta lose Ramona. I don't know
Speaker 1: that will ever happen me neither. I don't know either
Speaker 1: if it will happen. I feel like, yeah, has she
Speaker 1: come on Everything? Iconic Vermont a singer I interviewed know,
Speaker 1: I interviewed her at Bravo con like on the carpet
Speaker 1: or whatever, and that was it, and I always really
Speaker 1: liked I used to like remote, and then it got
Speaker 1: to the point where it's just like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: it just starts to feel gross. There was something charming
Speaker 1: about her, and then it went when you met her
Speaker 1: on the street once. I met her on the street
Speaker 1: once and it was I was She was coming out
Speaker 1: of a car and I was such and I did
Speaker 1: not like her, but I was just kind of like, oh,
Speaker 1: there's a remote singer. So I went up to her.
Speaker 1: Was the most annoying person intentionally the annoying version of myself,
Speaker 1: where I was like, remote, can I please get a picture?
Speaker 1: And then she was like sure, Like I can't believe
Speaker 1: she even did it, because apparent she's like famously so rude.
Speaker 1: Yeah she was. She was incredibly incredibly rude. I was like,
Speaker 1: thank you so much. Did not say a word to me,
Speaker 1: and do you still have the picture? I was, I
Speaker 1: just saved it just for like this story. I probably
Speaker 1: had a bad day and I was like, well, at
Speaker 1: least that happened. Or when was that? It was like
Speaker 1: two thousand seventeen. You know, I think we're in for
Speaker 1: a treat though, with Diranda's spin off show with the
Speaker 1: girls at the Bluestone Man from that everything season of
Speaker 1: Ultimate Girl Trip is like all the women who have
Speaker 1: been fired and the go to Bluestone Man. That's amazing.
Speaker 1: The things that I've heard about that show, It's going
Speaker 1: to be fucking wild. It's like Pedra Parks, who famously
Speaker 1: basically accused Candy Burst rape on Atlanta, her Brandy fucking Glandville.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Jill's Aaron, Taylor Armstrong, Taylor Armstrong. Who
Speaker 1: do you know about Taylor arms I don't think so.
Speaker 1: Her husband committed suicie. Her husband was beating her, and
Speaker 1: that's that's where Camil Grammer said, we don't say on
Speaker 1: camera that you that he broke your jaw, but now
Speaker 1: we said it. That's where that comes. She's also that
Speaker 1: meme of like people yelling at the cat or whatever.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, And Vicki and Tamera it's like
Speaker 1: the most chaotic people, um and you're hearing that. It's like,
Speaker 1: should have great unhinged crazy like chaos. I don't know
Speaker 1: how it will be the things that I've heard about it,
Speaker 1: it's just crazy, But hopefully it's like a coherent crazy
Speaker 1: that we're able to follow and everything which I think
Speaker 1: it will be. But the first season of Ultimate Girl's
Speaker 1: Trip was like the prose and the like, like the
Speaker 1: ones who have been lasting and like the ones who
Speaker 1: really know how to do the show, and so they're
Speaker 1: bringing their light drama. But it really was more like
Speaker 1: a celebration of Housewives as a franchise, like a retrospected
Speaker 1: this is I think going to be like housewide and
Speaker 1: trying to get back on their friend is like trying
Speaker 1: something to prove Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's gonna be good.
Speaker 1: I think. I hope, I hope. Didn't I do watch
Speaker 1: any Day Fiance at all. You know, I dipped in
Speaker 1: a while ago, but I haven't been in a while.
Speaker 1: It's been a year. I'm I'm officially back in your
Speaker 1: back in and I love it, and I do have
Speaker 1: to say I really still am hurt. There's a little
Speaker 1: bit of people. I watched the whole season of it,
Speaker 1: but you didn't like it? And can I say why?
Speaker 1: The episodes are too long? There? Yeah, did you keep
Speaker 1: up with That's what I that's the problem. I loved it,
Speaker 1: but it was it was very long. He's in pain,
Speaker 1: I'm in pain. I've watched Survivor for you, so I
Speaker 1: was very easy to watch. I've watched You haven't watched Survivor.
Speaker 1: For me, I said you should watch Survivor. You started
Speaker 1: watching it and you loved it. I didn't. I just
Speaker 1: want you to take one of my recommendations I do.
Speaker 1: I watched the whole season and if Fyance, I was
Speaker 1: absolutely watching. I'm going to It's just can I say,
Speaker 1: there's so much out there, like when and just like
Speaker 1: that is out there. Also, you know, I'm working on
Speaker 1: the show, so hurt hurt him? Is Darcy still on it?
Speaker 1: Darcy is still a lot of Darky. You didn't watch
Speaker 1: the Darcy season, did? Oh my god? Because that's really
Speaker 1: hooked me. And I've interviewed Darcy a couple of times.
Speaker 1: You have, and it's been wild Darcy and then Darcy
Speaker 1: has HER's been off with Darcy and Stacy with her twin.
Speaker 1: My boyfriend watches that, so I feel like, I like,
Speaker 1: keep up with them, and I keep up with Darcy
Speaker 1: like peripheral, like I know where she's at and everything.
Speaker 1: But I love dark The Darcy of it all was crazy, Dary.
Speaker 1: I don't know how she still is on the show,
Speaker 1: but it was I mean, I don't know. She she
Speaker 1: she figures out a way to stay in there and
Speaker 1: it's pretty impressive. So it's her second relation and ship
Speaker 1: working Tom no Tom is because the first guy was
Speaker 1: completely Yeah yeah, Jesse, I watched that that that's a
Speaker 1: crazy season. But you need to want you needed to
Speaker 1: watch either season three before the Many Days with Angela.
Speaker 1: I watched that one, okay, Angela. I mean it's really good.
Speaker 1: The Caesar, the Caesar storyline, the guy who goes to
Speaker 1: Mexico and buys like the candy, the candy panties and ship.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, it's it's so it's so incredible to
Speaker 1: see like this is this is so tragic and sound.
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess that's why people don't latch onto
Speaker 1: it because it's pure despair. That doesn't bother me. That
Speaker 1: part doesn't bother me, and you know it is kind
Speaker 1: of like like but by the time those things really happened,
Speaker 1: you actually are happy that you've watched so much of it,
Speaker 1: because it's like, I just think they they could they
Speaker 1: could afford to cut like two storylines always like I
Speaker 1: just feel like I want to see more of the
Speaker 1: people you love because then when when you go away
Speaker 1: from him. It's like like some some people, I just
Speaker 1: was not responding, you know. I went I was covering
Speaker 1: it on my show for like a season. It was
Speaker 1: around that I think it was before the ninety days
Speaker 1: with Darcy, and they invited me to like a mixer,
Speaker 1: to come and interview, like some of it was at
Speaker 1: a gay bar in West Hollywood. I forget her, but
Speaker 1: there was like a whole slew of the characters there, right,
Speaker 1: And I was new to the world, and they were
Speaker 1: like setting they were bringing people to me to like interview,
Speaker 1: and I didn't know who these people were, and so
Speaker 1: I got like a crash course like all of these
Speaker 1: stars of that show, of that franchise, and it was crazy.
Speaker 1: It was like I can't. I mean, it's shocking to
Speaker 1: me that Darcy is the star of that channel, right,
Speaker 1: of that crazy of TLC. She is the star. She's
Speaker 1: the like the face of TLC. She's the I don't know,
Speaker 1: like so that's like that that part of her, part
Speaker 1: of her probably is like, oh God, I hope none
Speaker 1: of this ship works out on the face of TLC.
Speaker 1: I gotta stay on the show exactly. She needs a
Speaker 1: lot of ninety day periods there you go and she
Speaker 1: she'll stay, She'll stay. Now they have a spin off,
Speaker 1: Darcy her sister. Oh my god, are you able to
Speaker 1: between the Darcy? Yes? Okay, yes, Stacy looks has has
Speaker 1: has had better work done. Okay, Unfortunately that's any to
Speaker 1: hear it before we go into I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: tell us a little bit about the book. The book
Speaker 1: is good. It's a it's a lot of nostalgia, pop culture,
Speaker 1: a lot of family stories. It's comedic, and then there's
Speaker 1: some drama in there too. It's an essay collection, so
Speaker 1: there's funny stuff and some dramatic stuff. I can't wait,
Speaker 1: and I'm really proud of it, like I'm I love it.
Speaker 1: I hope everyone gets it pre order. It's at March.
Speaker 1: How do I remember this? And going on tour. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll be in New York, Chicago, Boston, Cleveland, and l A. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're all. I'm partnered with independent bookstores, so you can
Speaker 1: come to you know, and support the independent bookstores or
Speaker 1: from your local bookstore if you want to. Um, And
Speaker 1: then I'm doing south By Southwest, so fu yeah, that's
Speaker 1: so great. I always wanted to go to south By. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I guess it's time for I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: it's time. Wow. This is that moment when we take
Speaker 1: one minute to rail against something in pop culture that
Speaker 1: um we just we we want to put on notice
Speaker 1: and then really just drag him through the goddamn mud.
Speaker 1: But I have something and it's it will put a
Speaker 1: button on my feelings on a particular time. Okay, okay, great,
Speaker 1: this is Matt Rodgers. I don't think so many as
Speaker 1: time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Sarda Ramirez
Speaker 1: having to play das. This is one of the most
Speaker 1: talented people in the world. Go online and I want
Speaker 1: you YouTube to videos. One is whatever happened to my
Speaker 1: part from spam a lot. This human being is the
Speaker 1: most talented person in the world. I understand Shada seemed
Speaker 1: like an opportunity for a life of a lifetime, but
Speaker 1: the cha of it all is keeping Saraamires from being
Speaker 1: Sara Ramirez. The second video I want you to watch
Speaker 1: is Buenos Aires from Avida. There is a performance that
Speaker 1: Sarah Ramirez does of this that is standing the test
Speaker 1: of time forever. This is one of the most talented
Speaker 1: musical theater performers in the world. I understand why they
Speaker 1: were like throw them a song and and just like that,
Speaker 1: but all it did was piss me off because I'm like,
Speaker 1: if I'm in the audience in this world event just
Speaker 1: like that, and I know it's surreal and the greed,
Speaker 1: but I'm saying, why aren't they on Broadway? Is the
Speaker 1: pilot musical? It should be? If it's not, I don't
Speaker 1: think so. Honey, Sarda Ramirez come back to the stage.
Speaker 1: And that's one minute. When you see people that can
Speaker 1: do anything, I know it is. It's very frustrating. They
Speaker 1: sang that Brandy Carlyle song story and and I think
Speaker 1: they sang chasing cars. They I think they all said
Speaker 1: it was like a group thing. They did how to
Speaker 1: Save the Life too. Yeah, I think everyone maybe that
Speaker 1: was like broken up. Every single person did a little.
Speaker 1: I think Kyler Lee could sing, yeahs singer. She shouldn't
Speaker 1: have to sing, right, Why are we trying to make
Speaker 1: her sing? We shouldn't be doing We shouldn't be doing that.
Speaker 1: But that musical episode existed because they were like, I mean,
Speaker 1: here's Sada, so like let's let's have it happened. That
Speaker 1: was that was at a time in Gray's history when
Speaker 1: I don't know if they still do this, but they were.
Speaker 1: They were doing a lot of gimmicky episodes. I think
Speaker 1: that same season, that same season season they did and
Speaker 1: I liked this episode where it was a real time,
Speaker 1: like it all took place in an hour. Yes, I
Speaker 1: liked that and I kind of liked that. I also
Speaker 1: loved the documentary. I hated the documentary. I don't like
Speaker 1: And that was when many Moore died. That's right. First
Speaker 1: of all, when many Moore died on Gray's Anatomy, that
Speaker 1: was a moment in culture. Yeah, we we actually missed
Speaker 1: that on Top two. But um, when many Moore died,
Speaker 1: that was incredible and just Chandra like taking it to
Speaker 1: camera being like, yeah she's dead. Um. Also, I mean
Speaker 1: I like all their disaster episodes. My joke is always
Speaker 1: there's a lie on loose on Osteria Lane, like basically
Speaker 1: during sweeps when the tornadoes Chandler and the bomb. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The so Grey's Anatomy and desp Perhapses were so good
Speaker 1: at it when they would do their event and episodes.
Speaker 1: My favorite is when there was a twister on with
Speaker 1: day Elane and John Slattery took a white pick offense
Speaker 1: to the chest and died, and Eva Longoria was free.
Speaker 1: I want that reboot. Really, I don't have anything. I
Speaker 1: didn't have anything until I started speaking. Sometimes not true.
Speaker 1: You you had it ready to go before you before
Speaker 1: you uttered the phrase. You don't know me at all.
Speaker 1: You don't know me, you don't know, you don't know. Oh,
Speaker 1: I've got something. Okay, So this is what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like sometimes it just was sitting there in the back
Speaker 1: of yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. So this is
Speaker 1: Bowen Yang, the one and only. First of all, let's
Speaker 1: just say I love that I gotta be here and
Speaker 1: watch this in personally, this is we haven't done this in.
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm just I'm getting like live. I
Speaker 1: feel like we're gonna. Isn't it just amazing to watch
Speaker 1: us work? You know, It's so like when when you
Speaker 1: get in the room and it's like electricit you know
Speaker 1: it's electricity, but what is this Ramona energy? It's really happening.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm incredible. You guess like me, um, should
Speaker 1: Hapeny come back? Think so, honey? And his time starts now?
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. Anytime someone's like this person
Speaker 1: looks like you. It never goes well. They never get
Speaker 1: it right. They always show you some like person who like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, like is missing like six of your
Speaker 1: chromosomes or something like it does it never looks like
Speaker 1: do you? Guys? And people do this with you guys,
Speaker 1: like your relatives and ship like it's like it never
Speaker 1: ever ever makes you think, Wow, they really do look
Speaker 1: like me, don't they? What are you trying? What is
Speaker 1: the endgame there? When someone is like this person looks
Speaker 1: like you? What do you expect the other person to say,
Speaker 1: I don't understand what that conversational exchange, what that exchange
Speaker 1: is supposed to be. And you're putting in a weird
Speaker 1: position to be like, I think that's not what I
Speaker 1: look like, or you like kill a part of yourself
Speaker 1: to be like, yeah, you're right, I don't like it
Speaker 1: sets up, um, you know, something very contentious and I
Speaker 1: don't know it makes me like you respect you much less.
Speaker 1: That's one minute, you know, unless it's going to be
Speaker 1: like a model or like a huge movie star, like,
Speaker 1: it shouldn't be done. You know. People were telling me
Speaker 1: I looked like the teenage girl who was texting her
Speaker 1: boyfriend to kill himself. God, what was her name? She was?
Speaker 1: But they did just a documentary about it, and everyonemost
Speaker 1: like you look like her? Oh wait, the documentary was good.
Speaker 1: It was as an incredible documentary. I also would argue
Speaker 1: that people shouldn't say. You shouldn't say about yourself that
Speaker 1: you look like anyone either. Do you remember back in
Speaker 1: the day when people were posting their doppel ganger online.
Speaker 1: It's like, I don't think you should say, like every
Speaker 1: gay person was like, oh Jake Jillen Hall, and it's like,
Speaker 1: you don't look like Jake or whoever it was, right right,
Speaker 1: You're like, wait a minute, like what like what is
Speaker 1: this that was uncomfortable to this dys more fick view
Speaker 1: of yourself? Wait, okay, her name was Michelle, but but
Speaker 1: but she looks like sucking like she looks like a
Speaker 1: car Dela. She looks like Cardel. And I think, who's
Speaker 1: playing paying no someone? Oh no, no, no, what someone else?
Speaker 1: As someone else? At someone else? Who is playing her
Speaker 1: elf fanning El Fanning? Is that? Yes, it's Alt Fanning?
Speaker 1: Is it? It's is playing this is Michelle Carter who
Speaker 1: was playing Michelle Carter. It says Arter, I really big thumbs.
Speaker 1: L Fanning is doing it. And I think I saw
Speaker 1: a photo of el and like her blocked brows and
Speaker 1: like like these chunky browsing, like making that like sad
Speaker 1: Michelle Carter phrase and like with that hair, and I
Speaker 1: was like, honestly, chic. Did you see the photos of
Speaker 1: Rene's a worker playing that UM podcast? Do you know
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about? What? They put her in a
Speaker 1: fat suit? They did, and it was shocking to me.
Speaker 1: I didn't see the video. I guess there's a trick.
Speaker 1: Is there a trailer? I don't know what is she playing?
Speaker 1: And she's she's in a fat suit playing a It's
Speaker 1: like someone a podcast killer something like that should playing
Speaker 1: a killer, I think, or something. What's going on? You
Speaker 1: just look at Renee Zellwegger new movie or show? I
Speaker 1: think it's an NBC show. Okay, Renee with Judy Greer's
Speaker 1: in it too, who we love? But Rene's Elweger new show.
Speaker 1: Literally my jaw dropped when I saw the image. Okay, wait, okay,
Speaker 1: did you find it? Renee's Elwigger is unrecognizable in trailer
Speaker 1: for true crime series The thing about Pam. Okay, wait, yep,
Speaker 1: this is so rene Elwigger is unrecognizable as a Midwestern
Speaker 1: murdering mom. Okay, wait, yeah she They really did go
Speaker 1: on this one, Okay, And I'm concerned that it's NBC,
Speaker 1: and we love NBC, but it's like, I'm concerned that
Speaker 1: she did all of that for a network like procedural. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Zellweger star says Pam M hop p a M. The
Speaker 1: middle aged mother and insurance office worker. She's not a podcaster, unfortunately,
Speaker 1: who in two thousand eleven became embrelled in a brutal
Speaker 1: slashing murder for which she is currently facing charges. This
Speaker 1: is what she looks like in the show. M M.
Speaker 1: Incredible the shoes. Why can't just just cast just cast
Speaker 1: a fat person. That's kind of what I think. But look,
Speaker 1: Josh Dumel is in it. Yes, yeah, there's I mean,
Speaker 1: it's hard to even focus on anything else when you
Speaker 1: see that photo of Verne'sweger, Like you can't even see
Speaker 1: the other people in the I mean, this is my
Speaker 1: new lock screen now that that's incredible, But well, I
Speaker 1: think it's time for Danny. I think time Danny pellegreenos,
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, A moment in time. This
Speaker 1: is okay, this is Danny pellagreenos. I don't think so
Speaker 1: many time starts now, I don't think so Honey, the View.
Speaker 1: I love who you just talked about the View, of
Speaker 1: course on these things. We love the View, and it's
Speaker 1: one of the most incredible shows on TV twenty five
Speaker 1: years and it's still making headlines. My problem is that
Speaker 1: they never addressed the headlines in the hot topics when
Speaker 1: air in the headlines, and I think we need to
Speaker 1: finally start breaking down that fourth wall. If Woop he's
Speaker 1: going to be taking a two weekly babsence, then I
Speaker 1: want to hear the host talk about the next day
Speaker 1: on out topics table. Because the other shows are talking
Speaker 1: about the Talk is talking about it, the Real Bill Maher,
Speaker 1: the other shows are talking about it. Let's set the
Speaker 1: women down. I want to know what Sunny thinks of it.
Speaker 1: I want to know what Joy thinks about when they're
Speaker 1: searching for a conservative conservative co host replace Meggan McCain.
Speaker 1: Page six is writing about it, every magazine's writing about it.
Speaker 1: Let's have the girls sit down and talk about what
Speaker 1: who do we want? Do we like from the past?
Speaker 1: What This is a hot topic culturally, So let's address
Speaker 1: it as a hot topic in the show, but instead
Speaker 1: they decided to not talk about it. And I want
Speaker 1: to hear those women talk about it because the view
Speaker 1: is a pop culture phenomenon and it's in the zikeist
Speaker 1: and when it isn't the Zike guys, I wanted to
Speaker 1: be a hot topic, like rightfully is and I love
Speaker 1: to show more than anything. And I only say this
Speaker 1: because I care and I want the show to address it.
Speaker 1: Then that's what that's wonderful, incredible, I mean, here's the deal.
Speaker 1: That was, Oh my god, and truly the density. It
Speaker 1: was the most words per minute we've had in a
Speaker 1: very long, very long time. And that's be as it's
Speaker 1: deserving of it, because the fact is the View is
Speaker 1: being left in the dust by The Real and the time.
Speaker 1: I don't even care about the talk, but The Real
Speaker 1: is the best panel daytime show on television right now. Yes,
Speaker 1: because they have Garcella, now, who's a great center. Garcella
Speaker 1: is such good vibes, and Adrian and Lonnie are always
Speaker 1: like they always and Genie, who's amazing like they always
Speaker 1: have like they it's never contentious between them, but they
Speaker 1: disagree and I'm never nervous watching it because it feels
Speaker 1: like they all have like a respectful working relationship and
Speaker 1: the View. I had to stop watching the View because
Speaker 1: it feels toxic to me, like and I get nervous.
Speaker 1: It just feels so weird to me though, that there
Speaker 1: could be a story like the Whoopie thing or like
Speaker 1: whatever it is. It happens all the time, and it's
Speaker 1: like then you turn on the show and it's not
Speaker 1: on the hot topics, and it's like, it would be
Speaker 1: such a great opportunity for us to like sit and talk,
Speaker 1: like there's been so much back and forth of like
Speaker 1: should whoop you have gotten a two week break and
Speaker 1: should or should she have not? Or should she been
Speaker 1: fired completely? Whatever it is? And I feel like that
Speaker 1: could have made such an explosive thing to hear Joy
Speaker 1: and Sonny and Sarah's and Anna or whoever sitting and
Speaker 1: talking like, oh, yeah, I actually you know, I think
Speaker 1: what we should have been here? I don't I think
Speaker 1: she should have been whatever. Yeah. It's when this thing
Speaker 1: happens with Wendy Williams too, when it's like when she
Speaker 1: becomes a story, she doesn't talk about it. She doesn't
Speaker 1: talk about herself because for whatever reasons, like she's she's
Speaker 1: allowed to keep that private, but like it does kind
Speaker 1: of like chip away at the whole I don't know,
Speaker 1: uh exists the reason for existence of your show. It's like, well,
Speaker 1: then why aren't you talking about yourself if you're the story.
Speaker 1: I think that it really boils down to the fact
Speaker 1: that it would piss Whoopee off. And I don't think
Speaker 1: Whoppe would come back if if Whoopy was being discussed
Speaker 1: on the show, and like if there were anything negative
Speaker 1: about her, because I don't. I actually, from what I
Speaker 1: understand about whoop be from like the stuff that's written
Speaker 1: about the um show and like the stories around the show,
Speaker 1: is that she kind of does actually run the ship,
Speaker 1: even if it feels like and the the vibe that
Speaker 1: she wants to give off is that she kind of
Speaker 1: doesn't really care about it. She actually very much does.
Speaker 1: And I think that there's you know, a lot of
Speaker 1: like main character energy there and she's not going to
Speaker 1: be you know, dragged by her own show. But it's
Speaker 1: it's interesting because it's actually like it is a fascinating
Speaker 1: discussion about like when someone is a cultural icon and
Speaker 1: like has learning to do and messages up like that.
Speaker 1: It feels very in line and of what the view does,
Speaker 1: right because because I mean, that's one thing I really
Speaker 1: I'm so tired of hearing them talk about cancel culture
Speaker 1: because I just don't think that they I think that
Speaker 1: they Sunny in particular is always like I don't like
Speaker 1: this cancel culture, Like it's that simple. And they do
Speaker 1: discuss this topic all the time, so for it to
Speaker 1: be in their own home and not address it feels
Speaker 1: like a missed opportunity. And also like if you you
Speaker 1: want people to watch, like people would watch, and there's
Speaker 1: so many logistics around it, and I'm sure, like you said,
Speaker 1: maybe they don't want to whoop it up, be upset
Speaker 1: or whatever it is. But it just happens time and
Speaker 1: time again where the views making like worldwide news and
Speaker 1: they're being talked about because that they're that girl you
Speaker 1: always talk. But so it's like, let's, I don't know,
Speaker 1: let's address it some a little bit on it, right.
Speaker 1: It feels like, um, the thing about the Real too,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you ever watched The Real, Like
Speaker 1: the reel is so good because they actually will get
Speaker 1: personal with each other. The first of all, Lonnie love
Speaker 1: cries every day. It's always a thing of like and
Speaker 1: you know, and then you'll hear Adrian go and you
Speaker 1: know somebody, and Garcela will be like, okay, all right,
Speaker 1: and we're here for you and will be like I
Speaker 1: just feel like and she'll just like go into like
Speaker 1: they're crying all the time, and then they are about
Speaker 1: time in the show. It's like it's like they and
Speaker 1: now we're gonna get personal and it's like time for
Speaker 1: them to cry. That that that is something you tune
Speaker 1: in for, yes, and that's I don't know, it's like
Speaker 1: it's that that relaxed, actual friend energy that I like,
Speaker 1: like I do, I don't know. And I just feel
Speaker 1: like with the View, first of all, why don't they
Speaker 1: just find a fucking fifth post already? Like it has
Speaker 1: to be conservative person, right, And you know, there's a
Speaker 1: podcast called Aja the View and they were talking about
Speaker 1: how there is some world that they could find someone
Speaker 1: like a different kind of left person and sort of
Speaker 1: examine the group, the differences amongst the group as they are,
Speaker 1: and it feels almost like they kind of skate over
Speaker 1: the fact that this group does also have disinterests or
Speaker 1: different opinions within there but they don't really explore it
Speaker 1: because they're looking for like the the person who like
Speaker 1: rounds that rounded out quote unquote. But it's like, you
Speaker 1: don't need to do that, it's already rounded out in
Speaker 1: some way. Let's find what's what's differing it within unless
Speaker 1: you in right, like I mean, god, this this this
Speaker 1: meant they'll just end up with another like person who
Speaker 1: cannot meaningfully or like constructively bring anything to the conversation.
Speaker 1: They'll just bring in like some like right wing nut case.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, that's the thing. I think is
Speaker 1: that they're trying to figure out a way to put
Speaker 1: someone on the show that's palatable and also like reasonable
Speaker 1: and also conservative. But that's not the base right now.
Speaker 1: There's not a reasonable like that that type of voice.
Speaker 1: So I always feel like to get away from this
Speaker 1: thing we have right now, which is essentially like four
Speaker 1: centrist Democrats because they all kind of think the same ship. Um,
Speaker 1: like there are like little differences, but the conversations go anywhere.
Speaker 1: I think they need to like get someone that's either
Speaker 1: really progressive, like they don't have anyone that's like truly progressive,
Speaker 1: and then someone that's like I don't know, like Jeddeddiabila
Speaker 1: or whatever, like that's like like a like a libertarian,
Speaker 1: but that's good on television. I never I ever realized.
Speaker 1: I never understood why they got rid of herself. I
Speaker 1: think there's also a world to where it doesn't have
Speaker 1: to be like a political talking head. You know, some
Speaker 1: of the best people in View history have been Elizabeth
Speaker 1: Hasselbeck or something who lean right, but they're from a
Speaker 1: reality show or something like that. Like, I don't think
Speaker 1: we have to have like a political commentator She's right,
Speaker 1: Lean's right, and need someone's good on television. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: someone who's good. Yeah yeah, And I think that that's
Speaker 1: I hope they're listening. I do love the View, though
Speaker 1: I hate I hate that you would just talk about it. Well,
Speaker 1: I had to bail on it. I'm sorry, um, and
Speaker 1: I'm sorry because I'm going to protect my energy first.
Speaker 1: Well in your real stand so you have to defend
Speaker 1: your ladies. I mean. The thing is like when they
Speaker 1: played Garcella on the show, I was like, oh, now
Speaker 1: I'm watching. Yeah, I love Garcella. I did too. She
Speaker 1: came on my show and she was promoting Tenna, which
Speaker 1: is like her incontinence. Oh wow, and it was so
Speaker 1: funny because she kept having to bring up Tenna. She's
Speaker 1: something that's not coming up to that's gonna be are
Speaker 1: you gonna? And I read the book and I read
Speaker 1: the book. Well, I read the book and I thought
Speaker 1: it was good, Please do it. And I read the book. Um,
Speaker 1: and speaking of reading books, how do I remember there's
Speaker 1: some good gay stories too. There's a you know, I cannot.
Speaker 1: This is all I talked about. And I told him
Speaker 1: all I talked about in therapy yesterday was well, this
Speaker 1: is okay, full, let me just finish up the Haringef thing.
Speaker 1: I read her Instagram caption and it's so beautifully written,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I was stoned. And I thought,
Speaker 1: my stoner narcissistic thought was, um god, I used to
Speaker 1: be like a decent writer like this one. And I
Speaker 1: was like, you know what I have to do. I start.
Speaker 1: I gotta start reading books again. And then I went
Speaker 1: to Barnes and Noble at the Grove yesterday, picked up
Speaker 1: an Eve Babbits, picked up a Joe Diddy and I
Speaker 1: haven't read And then now I got a third Sam
Speaker 1: not holding a book to like to me that even
Speaker 1: buying a book holding it like I love it. I
Speaker 1: was like on this whole like, oh, like reader, I
Speaker 1: pad kick of like reading my books on that. But no,
Speaker 1: like you can't have the thing be on the same
Speaker 1: thing as the distraction, you know, like it has to
Speaker 1: be its own thing that you can fully separate from,
Speaker 1: like just all this bullshit. I'm also reading a book
Speaker 1: right now. I'm reading Jennifer Lewis's biography. I'm working with
Speaker 1: her right now, and she's incredible. And so I have
Speaker 1: in my trailer um The Mother of Black Hollywood, which
Speaker 1: was her book, and it's she recalled to that because
Speaker 1: she's truly played everyone every like Black Superstars mother, and
Speaker 1: she's also a legend in her own right, and she's
Speaker 1: got so many amazing stories. She like originated Effie White, Um,
Speaker 1: and then they ended up going with Jennifer Holiday for
Speaker 1: the Broadway thing and it was like this, but anyway,
Speaker 1: there's stories on stories and I can't recommend that book
Speaker 1: enough either, and she's so in the pages and she's
Speaker 1: just amazing. So but but also how do I remember
Speaker 1: that unfortunately True Stories. You can preorder it. You're gonna
Speaker 1: get it on March eighth, and um, dear god, we
Speaker 1: end every episode of the song Danny, thank you so much.
Speaker 1: This is like a drink and dry. I love you,
Speaker 1: but oh my god, is such a good podcast. And
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, truly a TOWARTI for us every episode. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're so good. Um. We end every episode with a song.
Speaker 1: I wish they could be California girl. I wished that California.
Speaker 1: Oh stunning, funny, right,