1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: Hey, hurdlers, Emily and Body Here a little out of 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 1: breath with episode seventy two of Hurdle, a podcast that 3 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 1: talks to everyone from entrepreneurs to top CEOs and athletes 4 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: about how they've gotten through tough times hurdles of sorts 5 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: by leaning into wellness. This breathing thing, it's because I 6 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: literally just walked in the door from running the New 7 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: York Road Runner's new Balance fitth Avenue mile a six 8 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: h nine. Feeling pretty good about that, considering I logged 9 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 1: a fifteen miler long run yesterday and uh, just really 10 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: loving the diversity in all the running that I'm doing. 11 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: Enough about me for now before I get in today's 12 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 1: episode with Bettina Gozo, she's a Nike Master Trainer. Quick 13 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: shout out to my sponsor, Athletic Greens. Before I sat 14 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: down to record this intro, the first thing I did 15 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: coming in the door from my run was shake up 16 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: some ag. And that's because Athletic Greens. It gives me 17 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: the boost I need to start off my day right 18 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: right when I get in from my workout. 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We were introduced through some mutual 29 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: friends in the industry. Obviously, you guys have heard from 30 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: Kirsty Godso, Joe Holder, Alex silver Fagan, all other Nike 31 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: Master trainers and we immediately clicked. This episode is a 32 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: direct result from you guys actually writing in and asking 33 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: me to hear a chat with her. So mental note 34 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: that I'm listening and I want to bring you guys 35 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: stories from the people that you want to hear from. Anyway, 36 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: Betina and I sat down when I was in Los 37 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: Angeles a couple months ago, and she used to make 38 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: a living playing bass in a rock band. But in 39 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: today's episode, she talks to me all about the workout 40 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 1: class that changed her career entirely, and how she went 41 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: from hardly being able to do exercises with five pound 42 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: dumbbells so crushing barbell friendly workouts on the Nike Training 43 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: Club app. We also wrap about one of the hardest 44 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: parts of adulting, balancing a career in your personal life, 45 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: and the tough decisions she had to make after spending 46 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: some time cell phone free on a work trip. What 47 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: I love about Beatina, Like I said, she's just Her 48 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: energy is amazing, It's contagious. Right this very second, she's 49 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 1: actually donating her time in Kenya for her foundation, Dance 50 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: with Money. It's a nonprofit organization. It's got a mission 51 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: to bring volunteers to orphanages and schools with physical and 52 00:02:55,600 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: mental disabilities in developing countries. It's really inspiring what she's doing. 53 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: If you want to hear more, if you want to 54 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: contribute or donate to the cause, definitely go check out 55 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: Dance with Money. That's mweyne dot org and all the 56 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: other usual stuff that comes from me, you know at 57 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: Hurdle Podcast at Emily a Body. If you have a 58 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:19,959 Speaker 1: Hurdle moment of your own to share or just want 59 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: to say Hi, Feel free to reach out to me. 60 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: It's Emily at hurdle dot us over email. Also, if 61 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: you're in the New York City area, I'm super stoked 62 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,119 Speaker 1: to be teaming up with Trellis. They're a woman's egg 63 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: freezing fertility studio for a live podcast episode with Ayakna. 64 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: She is the Chief Fashion director at Hurst. It's part 65 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: of their Fertility boot Camp Week, which brings a lot 66 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: of awareness to the idea of fertility and what your 67 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: options are as you get older in life. It's definitely 68 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: something that's on my mind as I am getting into 69 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: my mid thirties and something that I personally don't know 70 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: a lot about. So if you're in the New York 71 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: City area, the podcast goes from six to eight pm. 72 00:03:58,640 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: I'll make sure to put a link in the show, 73 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: so if you're round and you want to come hang 74 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: out and listen in, you're more than welcome. Hope to 75 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: see you guys there. And with that, let's get to hurdling. 76 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 2: Today. 77 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: I'm sitting down with Bettina Gozo. She's a Nike Master 78 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: trainer and all around awesome babe. How do you like 79 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: to describe yourself? 80 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 2: I don't know, Actually, spunky spunky, a lot of energy, 81 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 2: A lot of energy. 82 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: I can't tell that right off of that. Amazing. Okay, well, 83 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 1: I'm excited you've invited me into your home in Los Angeles. 84 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: Why don't we start off. I've had a few of 85 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: your peers on the pod. I've had Kristy and Joe 86 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: and Alex Silverfagan, all Nike Master trainers, and every time 87 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: I've asked them to tell me, what is it to 88 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: be a Nike Master Trainer? So why don't you tell me? 89 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 1: Why don't you tell me that? 90 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 2: That is a great question. So to be an Ikey 91 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 2: Master Trainer for me personally, what I've experienced with all 92 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 2: the other trainers is really it's about being someone who 93 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,919 Speaker 2: can partner with the brand and represent the brand in 94 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 2: a way that they want to relate to their consumers. So, 95 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 2: you know, I mean, depending on your skills and your talents, 96 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 2: every trainer kind of has a different thing. I almost 97 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 2: feel like they wanted to put it together a team 98 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 2: like the Avengers. You know, everyone has a different skill, 99 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 2: everyone has a different thing that they're really into, we're 100 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 2: really good at And for me personally, it's just being 101 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 2: able to connect to the consumer, making training relatable to 102 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 2: the consumer and making them understand like what it is 103 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 2: that we do and you know, as far as training goes, 104 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 2: and how we live our best lives with the things 105 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 2: that we're incorporating. 106 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 1: So what is your personal training style? 107 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love to incorporate strength training, and I always 108 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 2: like to have fun with my clients, Like I want 109 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 2: my clients to get better and know that when they train, 110 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 2: it's going to make them stronger, because it's not just 111 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 2: about the weight room. It's about, you know, doing things 112 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 2: that are challenging and overcoming them. And I feel like 113 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 2: strength training is one of those things where like you're 114 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:17,559 Speaker 2: choosing to put yourself through pain and choosing to overcome them, 115 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:19,919 Speaker 2: hopefully at least. And I think that just relays in 116 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 2: so many other aspects in your life. 117 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 1: So let's rewind it back, because have you always been 118 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: into fitness or what's no, what's that look like for you? 119 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: Where did you grow up? 120 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 2: I so, I was born in the Philippines, but I 121 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 2: came to the US when I was two. I grew 122 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 2: up in Northwest Indiana and I didn't move to the 123 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 2: South or so to Chicago until I was nine. I 124 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 2: was in the South suburbs, and I actually only played 125 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 2: music pretty much my whole life. And I danced a 126 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:45,799 Speaker 2: little bit in high school in middle school, but music 127 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 2: was like my passion, like I wanted to play bass 128 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 2: for like Beyonce or Prints or something, and I never 129 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 2: really worked out. I didn't really play sports, like I 130 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 2: played volleyball because it was like fun, and played soccer 131 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 2: here and there, but sports was just like not a 132 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 2: thing because none of my relatives played sports. It was 133 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 2: everyone was creative. We're in the healthcare industry. And I 134 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 2: actually played in a band for a living for almost 135 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 2: all of my early twenties. And then it really wasn't 136 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 2: until I was I think it was twenty four. My 137 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 2: roommate took me to the gym and made me take 138 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 2: a workout class, and I remember being like, Oh, this 139 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 2: class looks so easy. I mean, I dance around with 140 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 2: my bass for three hours every night, like I'll totally 141 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 2: be fine. But it wasn't until that class I realized 142 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 2: quickly how out of shape I was. 143 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, so what was going on in the class? 144 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I remember, I remember there are these 145 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 2: like these rings, and now I know that they're like 146 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 2: agility rings. But back then I remember there's like two 147 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 2: little rings that were like stacked on each other, and 148 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 2: I had to like shuffle my feet. I was so 149 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 2: I could dance, but I felt so uncoordinated and I 150 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 2: was so out of breath, like bouncing back and forth 151 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 2: on these on these little rings. And then I remember 152 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 2: there's another station with dumbbells, and I remember just being like, 153 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 2: what am I doing? Tory has these ten pound weights 154 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 2: and I had like the five pound weights, and I 155 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 2: think it's just so funny to think back at that 156 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 2: because now I'm like throwing around barbells over my head 157 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 2: that are like sixty five pounds if not heavier, you know. 158 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 2: So it's really cool to tell how my client set 159 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,559 Speaker 2: because they're like, you've probably always been stronger, You've probably 160 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 2: always played sports, And it's just a nice reminder to 161 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 2: people like if you just work at something, you will 162 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 2: get stronger and you will get better. 163 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: Right. It's interesting because at this point, usually it goes 164 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: one of two ways. Right, you either decide like, wow, 165 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: I am not doing that again, but you didn't have 166 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: that feeling, you go to the direction. 167 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was one of those things. After 168 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 2: I got over the oh my god, that sucked. That 169 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 2: was horrible, and I don't know what just happened. I 170 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 2: kind of like became addicted to it, and I think 171 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 2: like secretly I was a little competitive with myself and 172 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:42,839 Speaker 2: maybe even with Corey, being like, why does she get 173 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 2: the ten pound weights and I'm dying in these five 174 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 2: pound weights? So I keep coming back to the class 175 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 2: with her, and eventually I had the twelve pound weights, 176 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 2: and you know, I wanted to get so much stronger 177 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 2: and better at it that I hired a personal trainer. 178 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 2: And then from noticing that I was getting stronger, I 179 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 2: I noticed I wanted to eat better. And when I 180 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 2: was playing in the band, you know, I wasn't eating 181 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 2: real healthy. I was eating gas stations food, eating the 182 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,839 Speaker 2: wings and the pizza that we were that we had 183 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 2: at the bars that we would play at. And when 184 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 2: I started taking care of myself, I realized I wanted 185 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 2: to make every other aspect of my life better. So 186 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 2: I would order salads with chicken and you know, not 187 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 2: get the gas station Swedish fish or sour Patch kids 188 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 2: or whatever it was there. 189 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 1: Tell me about the band. 190 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was so fun. We played top forty covers, 191 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 2: so we had a female singer and a rapper, and 192 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 2: we played everything that you heard on the radio at 193 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 2: the time, so a lot of Black Eyed Peas because 194 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 2: we had the female male dynamic, and a lot of 195 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 2: Kanye we had, oh man, we played everything almost anything 196 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 2: old school hip hop pop, and we played bars, bar mitzvahs, weddings, festivals, 197 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 2: like we played about three or four, maybe five times 198 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 2: a week. 199 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: Wow. 200 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 2: And so in my early twenties, like that was like 201 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 2: the coolest job ever, especially because I wanted to play 202 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 2: for Beyonce. So I was like, I am going to 203 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 2: leave Chicago and move to la and be Beyonce's basela, 204 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 2: Like that was my dream back then. 205 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: So I don't even know does have a full time player. 206 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:15,319 Speaker 2: Has an all female band and her bass player is 207 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 2: actually her band leader? Oh yeah, wow, I know. 208 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I can with that. It's okay, okay. 209 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: So you're playing in the band and you're traveling a lot, 210 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: and that can be really overwhelming and to go hand 211 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: in hand with that so along the same time is 212 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: when you're starting to get into fitness. Yeah, they don't 213 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: go that well. 214 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 2: The other no, they definitely don't. 215 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: So what did that look like at first? 216 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 2: At first, it was more like I was working out 217 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 2: for a hobby and it was fun, and I was noticing, 218 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 2: you know, I would have to I mean before, when 219 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 2: I was playing the band, I would play till four am, 220 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 2: and then I mean sleep until two in the afternoon 221 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:57,719 Speaker 2: the next day, and then like wake up, roll out 222 00:10:57,720 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 2: of bed, and be like all right, time to play 223 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 2: the next show. Get our our guitar player would come 224 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 2: pick us up in our big band, and then whatever, 225 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:04,839 Speaker 2: and then I would just work out. So I just 226 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 2: kind of worked out here and there. We traveled a lot, 227 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 2: so I would get the band to work out with me, 228 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 2: and eventually I was like, you know what, like I'm 229 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,079 Speaker 2: noticing I'm starting to make an influence on people that 230 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 2: are close to me, like the band, Like they're wanting 231 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 2: to work out, they're doing playings and squats with me 232 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 2: before a show, and it just kind of became an 233 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 2: integration of like now we're working out when we travel 234 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 2: instead of just like sleeping all day and like doing 235 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 2: nothing or just sitting around, and so now we were 236 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 2: working out, We're doing things that made us feel good. 237 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 2: And then I realized, since I had that influence, I 238 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 2: was like, well, why don't I get my personal training 239 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 2: certification to make extra money, and I was coaching at 240 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 2: different gyms and teaching classes and it was so funny 241 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 2: because I don't I think back at it, I'm like, 242 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 2: how did I run around? Like I was sleeping or 243 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 2: going to sleep at four am on the weekends. But 244 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 2: then I was riding my bike all around Chicago. I 245 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 2: remember I didn't have a car at the time. I 246 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 2: was like riding my bicycle, like my single speed bike, 247 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 2: all over Chicago from one gym, teaching bar at one place, 248 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 2: teaching a boot clamp, another places, teaching like zoomba or 249 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 2: something like some sort of class somewhere else, and then 250 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 2: maybe only got like four or five hours of sleep 251 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 2: because I just loved it so much. Yeah, and yeah, 252 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 2: it was just one of those things where it just 253 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 2: didn't really matter because I was so passionate about training 254 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 2: and passionate about teaching classes and still passionate about playing 255 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 2: music too. But eventually I realized I couldn't sustain that, 256 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 2: so I had to pick one, and I just chose 257 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:36,719 Speaker 2: the fitness thing and chose training because I really loved it. 258 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: So when do you stop running around so much? 259 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 2: I don't even know if I still don't about they 260 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 2: were like running around all our place. Eventually, it was 261 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 2: just I was offered a fitness director quote unquote position 262 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 2: at this new gym that opened, and at the time, 263 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 2: the owner didn't really even know what that meant. He 264 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 2: just knew like, I hate like my energy, He liked 265 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 2: that I worked hard, and he was like, hey, would 266 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 2: you be interested in this fitness director position? And we 267 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 2: kind of turned it into this really awesome thing that 268 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 2: you know, we grew from one location to three locations, 269 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 2: managed like from three trainers to like forty trainers over 270 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 2: three years, if not, I think maybe even more by 271 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 2: the time I left. But when I was offered that position, 272 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 2: it gave me more stability to quit those other places 273 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 2: and then and then quit the band. 274 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: Okay, so we leave the band, which must have been 275 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: like it was hard. 276 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, I really felt like it was an identity crisis 277 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 2: a little bit because I was so passionate about playing 278 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 2: music and I was so convinced that I was going 279 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 2: to be a famous bass player and playing for whoever. 280 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 2: I even really wanted to play for Kesha like that 281 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 2: was another It was another really I heard she just 282 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 2: came out with an album. 283 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: I'm I'm not surprised by that. I mean, she had 284 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 1: that stuff with Maclamore like two years ago and that 285 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: was gold. 286 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 2: Yes. Well, and that's at the time when I was playing. 287 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 2: It was when like TikTok came out and all those songs, 288 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 2: So we were playing those songs. I loved it of 289 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 2: having and I heard that she had all female musicians too, 290 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 2: so I was like, I'm going to play for her. 291 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: Leave the band. And it's like kind of a little 292 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: bit of an identity crisis. 293 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 2: Such an identic crisis. And on top of it, I 294 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 2: had like imposter syndrome because I was this quote unquote 295 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 2: fitness director and I had only been a trainer for 296 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 2: like a year at that point, and I was supposed 297 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 2: to be leading trainers and doing all these things. So 298 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 2: I just every single dollar I spent, I just spent 299 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 2: it on continuing education, Yeah, because I was like, I'm 300 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 2: so delayed on this, Like I've been studying music and 301 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 2: doing all the things that are so opposite of this 302 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 2: for so long. Yeah, And I think it was one 303 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 2: of those things where I had to I was like 304 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 2: not copying everyone, but just seeing what everyone else was 305 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 2: doing and trying to be like them, but trying to 306 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 2: find myself in that way. But then I think when 307 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 2: I really just kind of like honed it on what 308 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 2: I was good at and just knew that people liked 309 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 2: working with me because I'm me, it just helped me 310 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 2: settle down a little bit more and like just focus 311 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 2: on the reason why I like doing it, which is 312 00:14:58,040 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 2: like helping people. 313 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: So how did you really shoved that imposter syndrome to 314 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: the side? Then? 315 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 2: That was I don't even think I really got over 316 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 2: that until I moved to Portland, because before I moved 317 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 2: to Portland in twenty sixteen, so twenty thirteen was when 318 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 2: I became the Fitness Director and in that time Nike 319 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 2: found me and offered me a contract to be a 320 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 2: Nike trainer, then like a few months later offered me 321 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 2: a contract to become a Nike Master Trainer. And I 322 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 2: think for so long I was so attached to these 323 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 2: titles like Fitness Director, Nike Master Trainer, and I felt 324 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 2: like I didn't live up to these titles, and I 325 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 2: just kept studying and doing all these things, and it 326 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 2: really wasn't until I moved to Portland where I was 327 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 2: stripped of this title of quote unquote fitness director. I 328 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 2: was like, well, what am I doing now? Like, I 329 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 2: can't call myself this fitness director. I don't even know 330 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 2: what that meant. But I just knew that I was 331 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 2: doing a good job at what I was doing in 332 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 2: Chicago and then in Portland, I was still working with 333 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 2: Nike and doing stuff. But I think I had to 334 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 2: just really focus on me and what I love doing. 335 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 2: And I think when I did that, I just was like, Oh, 336 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 2: I don't need to be attached to these titles, because 337 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 2: what do you stand for? I think I really had 338 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 2: to figure out what I stood for and what I 339 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 2: really liked doing and why I do it. And when 340 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 2: I did that, that's when I was like, Okay. 341 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think that's important no matter what 342 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: you're doing, right, Yes, totally. Yeah. So just to take 343 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: the time to take a step back instead of throwing 344 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: yourself into your work like when you make because it 345 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: because your values matter and your decision making they matter 346 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: and how you execute your day to day. So if 347 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: you can't align yourself with these values, if you can't 348 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: identify what your why is, yes, then no title is 349 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: going to give you any gratification exactly. 350 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 2: And I feel like for so long, I was just 351 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 2: wanting to be like all these other master trainers, to 352 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 2: try to be like all these other trainers that were around, 353 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 2: and I just didn't focus on why I became a trainer, right, 354 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 2: I was trying to be like everybody else. And that's 355 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 2: when I when I slowed down, I was like, Okay, 356 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 2: what is what is my Why why am I doing this? 357 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 2: And what are my valueues? Like you said, is that's 358 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 2: when I was able to just kind of get rid 359 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 2: of that. 360 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 1: Right, And so, how did you go about identifying what 361 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: your values are? Because I think this is an exercise 362 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 1: that a lot of people actually really struggle with the 363 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 1: like Google, like, how do I figure out my values? 364 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:18,880 Speaker 2: It's funny because actually was working with a business coach 365 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 2: for a little bit and he helped me with a 366 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 2: lot of that. Yeah, so actually one of the first 367 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 2: exercises did it helped me validate my values? Because I 368 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 2: don't even remember how I figured it out. But he 369 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 2: had this like long list of all these different things 370 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 2: and he was like, I want you to pick like 371 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,479 Speaker 2: your top ten, and then our top twenty, and then 372 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 2: from like and it was different things like it was 373 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 2: like fun you know, empathy, or all those kind of 374 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 2: different things, and we ended up like picking the twenty 375 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 2: and then he would just help me like rate them. 376 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 2: And I just sat there and like was like, wow, 377 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 2: that these are the things that are really important to me. 378 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 2: And I think too, slowing down was really important because 379 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 2: I was just go, go go all the time. And 380 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 2: when I was running around with the band and this 381 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:04,439 Speaker 2: and that, all I realized was I loved doing what 382 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 2: I was doing. But I didn't know why I would 383 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 2: say yes to everything, right, you know. I mean I 384 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 2: was teaching like bar and zoomba and so just and 385 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 2: that wasn't even my style. Like I just knew that 386 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 2: I liked to dance. I would teach zoomba, and I 387 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 2: knew I liked bar class, but it wasn't like my 388 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 2: favorite to teach. But I was just doing it because 389 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 2: I was just doing it. But I think people also 390 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 2: have to patience, and I had to have patience with myself. 391 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 2: And I noticed this a lot with a lot of 392 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 2: young trainers. They always want to figure out what's happening 393 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:32,479 Speaker 2: at this moment, what everyone else is doing, and they 394 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 2: searching for the answers and want someone to tell them 395 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 2: the answers. But a lot of it is just patients 396 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 2: and just experience, yea, figuring. 397 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: Out what it is you like. So you moved to 398 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: Portland and this is for Nike. No. 399 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 2: I actually moved there with my ex partner and he 400 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 2: really wanted to move to Portland, and I had thought 401 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 2: I was Chicago girl for life, and I just kind 402 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 2: of took a chance and I was like, I'm going 403 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 2: to move to Portland. Yeah, And so I did, and 404 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 2: I really loved it at first. And I think it 405 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 2: was such a. 406 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,360 Speaker 1: A time of year did you move exactly? 407 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 2: I moved in August. 408 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 1: Every time beautiful. 409 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 2: And then it was actually the first winter they had 410 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 2: in like nine years where there was a lot of snow. 411 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 2: So I remember being like, oh my gosh, this is horrible. 412 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 1: This is awful awful. Yeah, yeah, but a lot of 413 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 1: snow compared to Chicago exactly. 414 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 2: But they don't have the infrastructure to handle it right now. 415 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: I remember last year, I snowed like an inch and 416 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: it was like, as of the apocalypse hit Portland. 417 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 2: But it's funny because you see people like skiing, uh 418 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 2: cross pitry skiing in the streets, so it's. 419 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: No big deal. Okay, So you're in Portland and what 420 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: happens from there. 421 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh, I had such an identity crisis. Like 422 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 2: I didn't like I thought that I wanted to work 423 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 2: at Nike the corporate office, like I thought I wanted 424 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 2: to be the fitness manager there, and I was doing 425 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 2: this doing that just kind of like running around not 426 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 2: really sure what it was I wanted. Because when I 427 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 2: was in Chicago, like I was, you know, basically running 428 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 2: this gym with the owner and then we finally like 429 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 2: hired people. Actually, this is a side of this is 430 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:04,919 Speaker 2: how hard I was working at that gym. When I left, 431 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 2: the owner split my position up into like eight different people. 432 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: Oh geez, that's a lot. 433 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 2: That's how much I was working. And I mean it 434 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 2: was definitely one of those things that it probably should 435 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 2: have happened anyway, but we just kind of didn't realize 436 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 2: because you grew so quickly. 437 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: It just shows how agile you are and nimble to 438 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: be able to do all the things. 439 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 2: That I was literally doing everything. I was like, yes, totally. 440 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 2: I remember I bought like a nice camera just so 441 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 2: I could take the headshots of the trainers. Yeah, so 442 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 2: when I was importantly I thought it was a good 443 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 2: opportunity for me to just kind of slow down and 444 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 2: figure out what it is what it is I wanted 445 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 2: to do, and obviously I still wanted to train people, 446 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:48,959 Speaker 2: but there were so many things that I was like, well, 447 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 2: maybe I start a podcast, maybe I do this, maybe 448 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 2: do that, Like, had so many different things that I 449 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 2: wanted to do. But you know, over the span of 450 00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 2: the two years there, you know, I was training client 451 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 2: and then I still just like didn't wasn't really sure 452 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 2: if that's like I wanted to train, but I was like, 453 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 2: I don't know if I wanted wanted a management position. 454 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 2: Like I applied for a management position. I loved like 455 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 2: the interview process, but I like would try to picture 456 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 2: myself in those roles and I didn't seem happy doing it. 457 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know if I could actually 458 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 2: do that. I didn't get one of the roles, and 459 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,199 Speaker 2: I was glad because at the same time when I 460 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:27,360 Speaker 2: was interviewing for that role, I was I just submitted 461 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 2: to the Women's Health Next Fitness Star and they interviewed 462 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:33,919 Speaker 2: me and I didn't get it. I was like one 463 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 2: of the last four people that they were interviewing, and 464 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 2: I remember being really upset and then like a week later, 465 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 2: it was when I found out that I won the 466 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 2: Women's Health's Next Finis Star And I just remember when 467 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:49,360 Speaker 2: I won, I cried and it was on the Insider 468 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 2: on TV with Debbie and with Jen Ader, and I 469 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 2: was crying because I was like, I didn't think I 470 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 2: deserved it out of every single person that was there, 471 00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 2: all the women that were there, like they were also 472 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:03,679 Speaker 2: amazing to me. And I think that's that moment when 473 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 2: I won was kind of a moment where I was 474 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 2: like realizing that I doubted myself for so long, you know, 475 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 2: all these imposter syndromes, like even when my boss gave 476 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 2: me the Fitness director title, where when Nike gave me 477 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 2: the Nike Master Train or title, like I never thought 478 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 2: I deserved any of that stuff. And I realized, like, 479 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 2: you know, all these titles are giving to me, and 480 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 2: people are giving me these things, but I didn't know 481 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 2: what I stood for. But everyone else is believing me. 482 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 2: But the most important thing was that I needed to 483 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 2: believe in myself, right, And it really wasn't until like 484 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 2: I won that title. Even though as silly as I 485 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 2: sadly kept saying, like you don't want to focus on titles. 486 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 2: But it was one of those things where I realized, 487 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 2: oh wow, people are seeing the quote unquote greatness of 488 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 2: what I'm doing or the passion that I have. And 489 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 2: I really had to just sit there and like believe 490 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 2: in myself, and as cheesy as it was, like I 491 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 2: had to like journal and like give myself affirmations and 492 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 2: tell myself, like, Wow, we're really awesome, Betina. Like you know, 493 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 2: I think they were just like insecurities going on in 494 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 2: my life for so long that I never believed that 495 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 2: I could be that I was, you know, that I 496 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 2: was good enough for any of these things. And I 497 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 2: don't really know what the switch was, but I think 498 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 2: it was just that day when I won. Like I 499 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 2: think I remember being like, oh wow, like there's all 500 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 2: these the beauty that I saw on these women was 501 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 2: like the beauty that I had and the greatness that 502 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 2: I had because I was able to see that in them. 503 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 2: I mean, I really truly believe when you see something 504 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,919 Speaker 2: in somebody else, like you have that too, you know, 505 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 2: just like when you're insecure, you're like when people are 506 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 2: like judging other people, it's usually like a reflection of themselves, 507 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 2: Like what's the positive of that is that like when 508 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 2: you see something beautiful in someone else, I really think 509 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 2: that that's something that you have, right, And so I 510 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 2: had to remind myself that, and yeah, it was just 511 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 2: from there. It was just like also like phew, all 512 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 2: these amazing things were happening. 513 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: Quick break from today's episode. To give my sponsor, Athletic 514 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: Greens a little bit of love. So last week I 515 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 1: hosted an awesome run in New York City with my 516 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: friends at Wolgo Woman and Athletic Greens was gracious enough 517 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: to give all the ladies a five count starter pack. 518 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: What we learned from this experience is that a lot 519 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: of the women in the room actually were already taking 520 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: Athletic Greens. 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Actually, 540 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,199 Speaker 2: like Niki Metzker is a good friend of mine and 541 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 2: she won through your two years prior when I won, 542 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 2: they let me publish the Women's Guide to Strength Training 543 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 2: with one of the other writers for Women's Health, and 544 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 2: so that was pretty exciting because you know, I think 545 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,360 Speaker 2: in the past there's a lot of like hit training 546 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 2: and you know, like the fun DVDs, which are really great, 547 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 2: but this gave strength training an opportunity to be mainstream. 548 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 2: So I was really excited about that. 549 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: Awesome. So were you coming to and from New York 550 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 1: to work on some of that stuff? Yeah? 551 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, so I went back and forth to New 552 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 2: York a few times because we did the the cover 553 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 2: of the magazine for the finalists, and then also when 554 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 2: I was, you know, writing this stuff, I had to 555 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 2: like go back and forth with the writer a few 556 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 2: times and then do the photo shoot and videos and stuff. 557 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 2: And yeah, I think I went back there twice. Okay, 558 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 2: so it's pretty pretty crazy for you. 559 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're but you're still living in Portland. 560 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 2: It's still living in Portland this time. 561 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 1: So then what happened? 562 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 2: Oh, I remember, it was just a crazy few months. 563 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 2: It was such a blur actually, and at that same 564 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 2: time that I won, actually same week, I got engaged. Oh, 565 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 2: I got engaged. So it was a really crazy time 566 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 2: and I had all the stuff happening, like there was that, 567 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 2: and then I was traveling like Nordic Trak. All of 568 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 2: a sudden I wanted to work with me, which was 569 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 2: kind of a dream because two years ago I really 570 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 2: had told myself, like I really want to be like 571 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,439 Speaker 2: the next Jillian Michaels. You know, but like a different, 572 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 2: like perky, happier version of Jillian Michael's. And I remember 573 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 2: one of our biggest partners was Nordi Trac. Yeah, so 574 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 2: when they called me, I was so excited. Was I'm like, oh, 575 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,679 Speaker 2: this is like kind of on the same path as Julian, 576 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,239 Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, So I started working with them. Like 577 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 2: they got a random email from them about going to Thailand. 578 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 2: They're like, hey, your friend Gideon's coming with us to Thailand. 579 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 2: Do you want to come? And I was like, who 580 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 2: is this? Why are you emailing me? Like it was 581 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 2: such a casual email, but it was a producer from 582 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,120 Speaker 2: nord Track and they had me come out to Thailand 583 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 2: with getting to Conde, a good friend of mine as 584 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 2: a trainer as well, and he or we filmed a 585 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 2: bunch of contact with them, and after that I started 586 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 2: working with them, and you know, I don't even know 587 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 2: what happened, but it was just like boom, boom boom. 588 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 2: So many different opportunities were coming once I started to 589 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 2: really believe in myself and just like hone in on 590 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 2: what I was good at. And unfortunately, in that time, 591 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 2: you know, I was traveling a lot, and you know, 592 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,959 Speaker 2: I like I just mentioned, I was engaged and it 593 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 2: was really hard for my partner and we were having 594 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 2: such a hard time, like figuring out what it was 595 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,439 Speaker 2: that we wanted for each other and when we were 596 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,160 Speaker 2: going to get married and all this. And in that time, 597 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 2: I realized, like, there's so much more that I want 598 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,919 Speaker 2: to do here and it's not in Portland. And also 599 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 2: that like, I just have so much that I want 600 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 2: to achieve and so many people that I want to affect, 601 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 2: and I think it goes beyond training. And there was 602 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:25,360 Speaker 2: a trip that I took to Antarctica with Nordic Trek 603 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 2: and it's so silly when I talk about it out loud, 604 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 2: because it's like whatever. But on the first day before 605 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 2: we left to go on the ship, my phone broke 606 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 2: and I was freaking out, Like I was like, oh 607 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 2: my gosh, I'm gonna be in the most beautiful place 608 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 2: in the world and I can't document it, you know, 609 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 2: and I can't have my phone. I can't tell anyone 610 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 2: about it. Like I knew I wouldn't have service, but 611 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 2: I wanted to be able to like do stories and whatever, 612 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 2: I do all the things that I was used to. 613 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 2: But my phone broke we went two days through the 614 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 2: Drake passage and all I did was journal. Well, I 615 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 2: threw up a few times because it was so but 616 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 2: then I journaled when I felt good enough to uh journal. 617 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 2: And you know, obviously I was working because I was filming, 618 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 2: but in between the time, I just had like time 619 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 2: to myself, you know, with my thoughts, and because moving 620 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 2: to Portland was such a crazy time, like I was 621 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 2: trying to force myself into these positions that I wasn't 622 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 2: even sure if I wanted. And then I won Women's 623 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 2: Health next spinister that I was engaged, and then I 624 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 2: was going to Thailand, and I was going back and 625 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 2: forth to Utah, which is where noted Trak's headquarters were, 626 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 2: and just doing a bunch of stuff with Nike here 627 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 2: and there, planning what now is premium antic premium, but 628 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 2: at the time I couldn't talk about it. So I 629 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 2: was doing so much stuff and I was never swing down, 630 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 2: like I had no free time on top of it 631 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 2: balancing a relationship, right, And so when I was in Antarctica, 632 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 2: I just slowed down and was like in my own thoughts, 633 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 2: like on a ship that you wouldn't know where to go, 634 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 2: Like I couldn't even get on the internet anywhere, yea. 635 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 2: And so that was the time where I was like, okay, Betina, wow, 636 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 2: like there's so much more you want to do. And 637 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 2: that's where I really had my second like revelation, like Okay, 638 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 2: this is like Betina wants more than just to be 639 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 2: a trainer, Like there's so much more. She doesn't really 640 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 2: know what it is that she wants to do, but 641 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 2: there's something else, and like no one can stop her, 642 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,719 Speaker 2: you know. And so I had to come back and 643 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 2: tell my partner, you know, and be like, hey, I 644 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 2: I don't know if like I don't want to I 645 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 2: don't know if I need I don't know if I 646 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 2: don't want to be with you, but like I need 647 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 2: you to be supportive of everything that I want to do, 648 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 2: like everything, And you know, he definitely had our time 649 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 2: with like me traveling already, and so that was hard 650 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 2: for him. And then so we delayed the wedding and 651 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 2: I was also like I need to go to Africa. 652 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 2: It's like, why do you want to go to Africa? 653 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 2: And for some reason, Kenya was calling me so much 654 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 2: and I went out there because I had always wanted 655 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 2: to do a volunteer trip to work with special needs kids. 656 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 2: And I found some organizations and I found this one 657 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 2: specifically that had an organization and Kenya and it was 658 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 2: an orphanage. So I went out there. And when I 659 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 2: went out there, I was just like, you know, you know, 660 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 2: I think it's funny because when people go out to 661 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 2: go with these mission trips are always looking for something, 662 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 2: like they want to give back, and you're like looking 663 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 2: for like it's almost like a weird selfish thing where 664 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 2: you're like looking to give back so you can give, 665 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 2: like yourself some sort of reward for giving back, you know. 666 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 2: And even all all their volunteers that were there were 667 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 2: kind of in the same place, like not sure where 668 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 2: they're going in their life, or they're really young, they're 669 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 2: like just graduating from high school or you know whatever. 670 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 2: And I was there and I met these kids, and 671 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 2: I met these house moms and the organizers of the orphanage, 672 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 2: and it just like it was one of those things 673 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 2: where they literally had nothing and they were able to 674 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 2: give so much, you know, and they're just so happy 675 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 2: and so content. And I know that when you say 676 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 2: it out loud, it's like, well, duh, you know, people 677 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 2: should just be happy with they want. 678 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: But like we're so privileged, yeah. 679 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 2: You know. And when I was out there, the kids, 680 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 2: the smiles that they would have, like most of them 681 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 2: are physically and mentally disabled that I work with specifically, 682 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 2: and they some moment can't walk, and the smile that 683 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 2: they have just for when you hold them and they 684 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 2: can like run their feet around on the ground is 685 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 2: just like so incredible, you know. And the biggest lesson 686 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 2: that I learned was to give, to give and not 687 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 2: to want anything return, you know. And so when I 688 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 2: was talking to the program directors of the organization that 689 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 2: I went out with, they said that, you know, there 690 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 2: would be months that would go by where no one 691 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 2: would volunteer for special needs. And it wasn't because no 692 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 2: one wanted to. It's just people didn't know it was 693 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 2: a thing, or they thought you might need a special 694 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 2: skill to do it. And special needs is so important, 695 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 2: is like very very close to my heart because I 696 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 2: lived with my good friend that has fund a USCO 697 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 2: atrophy in my when I was eighteen, So just it's 698 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 2: just been something that's really special to me. So when 699 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 2: I went back, you know, I was like I have 700 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 2: this reach now, Like I have all these followers on 701 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 2: Instagram and posting things about these videos of these kids 702 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 2: and people asking all these questions. I felt like I 703 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 2: had an opportunity to really spread awareness and to tell 704 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 2: people about these kids and tell people about this orphanage. 705 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 2: So I started like kind of posting stuff here and 706 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 2: there and saying like, you know, these kids don't really 707 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 2: just need things because they don't want things. They don't 708 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 2: need toys, they don't need this. So I wanted to 709 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 2: give people the opportunity to like volunteer, And that's when 710 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 2: I started my nonprofit, the Dance with Money Foundation, because 711 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 2: I wanted to give people the opportunity to be able 712 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 2: to experience what I experienced and to feel what it 713 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 2: feels like to give, just to give and to get 714 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 2: that love that you get from the kids and from 715 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 2: the house moms. Like the last trip that I had, 716 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,959 Speaker 2: I remember she just a house mom that we were 717 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 2: staying with. She just every time i'd come there and 718 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 2: we would come home, she would just like look at 719 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 2: you and just feel like, I'm just so grateful for 720 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 2: you for you know, sacrificing your time to be here 721 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 2: and just we're so thankful for you. And she just 722 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 2: sat there and slaved over a kitchen and helped us, 723 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 2: made us a dinner and stuff, and I'm like, can 724 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 2: we help you, like do the dishes, and she's just 725 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 2: she's like, no, no, no, just you guys, relax and I'll 726 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,240 Speaker 2: cook for you. After a full day of her taking 727 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 2: care of these kids, you know, and it's just which 728 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 2: is really incredible. 729 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 1: So what tell me more about the foundation? 730 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, so this just started it last year and my 731 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 2: whole mission is just to give people the opportunity to 732 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 2: be able to volunteer with special needs. And when I 733 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 2: originally started it, like I had this vision in the 734 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 2: next three years that I wanted to work in all 735 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 2: these different countries. But I've gone back to Kenya four 736 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,319 Speaker 2: times now and I was like, there's a lot more 737 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 2: to be done there. There are two orphanages that I'm 738 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 2: working with, and they both have about thirty children and 739 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 2: adults anywhere from the age of two to like thirty 740 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:46,320 Speaker 2: five that have physical and mental disabilities and or physical 741 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 2: and mental disabilities, and there's usually only like four women 742 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 2: that work there, and so you can imagine there's a 743 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,359 Speaker 2: lot to be done. Yeah, So these women are washing 744 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 2: the clothes, they're cooking, they're feeding, they're doing everything else 745 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 2: all around the house. They don't really get time to relax. 746 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 2: So they don't even really get that much time to 747 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 2: interact with the kids. And I mean they do, I mean, 748 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 2: they have so much love in their heart, but it's 749 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 2: just so hard because they don't have time. 750 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: Right. 751 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 2: So the volunteers that come out, I mean they have 752 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 2: they can do so many different things. They can just 753 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 2: help wash the dishes, they can help clean and or 754 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 2: just help play with the kids. Like I actually we 755 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 2: rented a bouncy house, you know, for the kids, and 756 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 2: brought all the kids out and there are some kids 757 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 2: that were in their thirties that had never been in 758 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 2: a bouncy house before. You just put them on there 759 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 2: and just bounce around. Their face is just light up 760 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 2: so big. Yeah, it's so incredible, And yeah, it's just 761 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 2: been something that I thought was gonna be a passion project. 762 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 2: But now the more and more and more and more 763 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 2: that I've been working on it, the more I'm just 764 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 2: like I want this, Like it's the it's like the 765 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 2: one thing, like the only reason why I want to 766 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 2: continue to build my brand so I can tell more 767 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:50,400 Speaker 2: and more people about it. 768 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really special. Yeah, Like I wish you guys 769 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 1: could see her face right now. It's like completely. 770 00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. I just love those kids so much, and they're 771 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:04,799 Speaker 2: just yeah, they're just they're just so special. They're most 772 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 2: special people in the world. 773 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 1: So you started the foundation last year, but in the meantime, 774 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:10,840 Speaker 1: you leave Portland. 775 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 2: I leave Portland, I go to LA. 776 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: I go to La. So how did you make that decision? 777 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 2: So remember Beyonce, I'm just kidding call no. So yeah, 778 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 2: I mean, eventually I did tell my partner like, hey, 779 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:27,879 Speaker 2: this isn't going to work out. You know, we went 780 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,720 Speaker 2: to we went to couple therapy and I was able 781 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,239 Speaker 2: to articulate, We were able to articulate to each other 782 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 2: like we need more from each other and we're not 783 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,839 Speaker 2: able to give that to each other. And I think 784 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 2: it was you know, I think he's one of the 785 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 2: most amazing humans in the world. And it was one 786 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 2: of the hardest decisions I think I've made in a 787 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 2: long time. But I am proud because I know he's happier. 788 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 2: I know I'm I'm happier. And when we broke up, 789 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 2: I was like, well, there's really no reason I'm in Portland, 790 00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 2: Like really the only reason why I moved out there 791 00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,319 Speaker 2: was for him, and it wasn't even for Nike. It 792 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 2: was just to be out there with him. And I 793 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 2: happened to be already working with Nike, so Nike took 794 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:12,959 Speaker 2: me in like no problem. And so last year Nike 795 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 2: had their Just Do It headquarters and I was doing 796 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 2: a lot of projects out there. I even asked the 797 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 2: global team who I was working with at Nike. I 798 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 2: was like, Hey, do you guys mind if I box 799 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,720 Speaker 2: back and forth? Just curious. I really love La and 800 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,359 Speaker 2: all my best friends from my early twenties live here, 801 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 2: so every time I came out with stay but then 802 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 2: and had friends and just I don't know, there was 803 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 2: just something that was calling. And even when Tim and 804 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,880 Speaker 2: I were still together, I remember telling him like, you 805 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 2: know what I feel. I feel like I could be 806 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:46,239 Speaker 2: half La half Portland. And then when I was we 807 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 2: weren't together anymore, I was like, well, I guess it's yeah, 808 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:53,320 Speaker 2: full La. Yeah. So I took a trip to Africa 809 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:57,319 Speaker 2: September and then I drove down from Portland in my 810 00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 2: car with my friend Chelsea down La and stayed with 811 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,799 Speaker 2: a friend for two months. And the place that you're 812 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 2: in right now. Actually, my best friend since I was eighteen, 813 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 2: he lives in the back house. He said that there 814 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,439 Speaker 2: that it was opening up in December, and I moved 815 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 2: in here and I was just like, okay, we're going 816 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 2: to do it. And I actually wanting to move down here. 817 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 2: I had no plan, like I just jumped the ship 818 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 2: and was like all right. And at the time, we 819 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,840 Speaker 2: were filming what is now Nike Premium or NTC Premium 820 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 2: and which is an app by the way, which is 821 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 2: in fact, oh yes, yes, yeah, yeah, it's an app. 822 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,720 Speaker 2: It's a Nike Training Club app, and there are workouts 823 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 2: that I'm that are uh that are in there that 824 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:41,400 Speaker 2: I'm leading, and we were filming that. We started filming 825 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 2: it and I remember telling the team. I was like, yeah, 826 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,760 Speaker 2: so I'm moving to LA and they were like, uh 827 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,359 Speaker 2: you are. You're like, well, we didn't budget for you 828 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,759 Speaker 2: to be living in LA when we were filming this, 829 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 2: And I was like I'll fly back, like I was like, 830 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 2: I'll figure it out, like I want to be obviously 831 00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 2: want to parties, and we had already planned on all 832 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,439 Speaker 2: those happening. So for like four months, I was going 833 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,799 Speaker 2: back and forth to Portland in LA and when I 834 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 2: moved here, I remember Lyft Society. It's a gym. The 835 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 2: owner like reached out to me right away. She's like, 836 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 2: do my job. And I remember telling her like I 837 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 2: don't really want to be committed to any place, but 838 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 2: I'd love to help out here and there She's like, 839 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,839 Speaker 2: no problem, Like I love your energy and I want 840 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 2: you here, so like we'll just figure it out. I 841 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 2: know your travel a lot, so so I kind of 842 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,440 Speaker 2: had a training home and then I was still traveling 843 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 2: back and forth to Portland and then I don't even 844 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 2: know what happened. It was just like a really crazy 845 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 2: harmonious thing that just happened. That everything the way I 846 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,320 Speaker 2: wanted it to happen out here is just happening. 847 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 848 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 2: You know, like I told myself that I wanted to 849 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 2: continue to reach more people, continue to work with all 850 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 2: the brands, continue to work on camera filming workouts so 851 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 2: I can reach more people. And I feel like exactly 852 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 2: that happened. 853 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's wild. What do you do, aside from obviously 854 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,399 Speaker 1: the gratitude and you know, the meditation and things like that, 855 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 1: to give back to yourself when you're not giving to 856 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 1: everybody else. 857 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, like you mentioned gratitude, you know, meditation. 858 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,360 Speaker 2: I do a lot of you know a lot of 859 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 2: the self care stuff like massages. It's fun. I actually 860 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 2: budget into my monthly thing of like I don't want 861 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 2: to say how much, but I spend a lot of 862 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,920 Speaker 2: money on massages and like you know, facial is just 863 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 2: to relax in here and there, because that's really important 864 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,320 Speaker 2: to me because because I travel so much. Yeah, and 865 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,840 Speaker 2: you know, I just need that relaxation. And I also surf. 866 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,360 Speaker 2: I'm not very good, but I just love to be 867 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,880 Speaker 2: out in the water and I think it's so peaceful. 868 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,400 Speaker 2: And I take a lot of time with my friends 869 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 2: that are not involved with my work. You know, all 870 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 2: my friends from my early twenties from Chicago. I'll live here, 871 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 2: so I try to spend as much as time as 872 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,880 Speaker 2: I can with them because I think that's really important. 873 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 2: It grounds me and it just helps me feel like 874 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,319 Speaker 2: really chill. You know, those friends that you could just 875 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:52,960 Speaker 2: like you don't have to be on for you just 876 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 2: sit on the couch anything, You don't say anything for 877 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 2: like three hours and everyone's happy. 878 00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 1: Everybody's happy, everybody's happy. And then you still play bass. 879 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,399 Speaker 2: Yes, I still play bass, and I love it. It's 880 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,440 Speaker 2: actually I have to remember them. I have a few 881 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 2: basses in there. Yeah, I still play bass. I play 882 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 2: guitar every almost every night, even if it's for ten 883 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,560 Speaker 2: fifteen minutes, but I try to get like thirty forty 884 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,359 Speaker 2: five minutes in. I've actually filled in for my good 885 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 2: friend Ryan for his band Rookie of the Year a 886 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:22,839 Speaker 2: few months ago, and it was so fun. I flew 887 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 2: out to North Carolina and played some shows, so fun, 888 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 2: grow back. It was so fun. 889 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 1: When you do stuff like that, do you have like 890 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:31,920 Speaker 1: a moment where you're like, what if I never did 891 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:32,760 Speaker 1: all this other stuff? 892 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 2: Yes? Serious, there are times where I'm like, man, I 893 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,280 Speaker 2: really wonder But no, I truly believe that everything happens 894 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,360 Speaker 2: for a reason, you know. And I do think that 895 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,919 Speaker 2: performing on stage has given me the opportunity to feel 896 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 2: more comfortable in front of the camera and to talk 897 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,279 Speaker 2: to people and to just be you know, figure out 898 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 2: the balance of like how much energy to give, because 899 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,239 Speaker 2: I knew when I was on stage if I was 900 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,600 Speaker 2: like super high before, like I would be tired on stage. 901 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,800 Speaker 2: So it was finding that balance or that harmony of 902 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,880 Speaker 2: being on camera or being on a podcast or whatever. Right, 903 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,439 Speaker 2: also chilling hard because I chill hard. 904 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:10,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, what does that even mean? 905 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,880 Speaker 2: I do a lot of like just nothing. 906 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 1: I just I do a lot of lounging. Yeah, basically 907 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,400 Speaker 1: you missed Patina laying back on my couch and being like, 908 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,879 Speaker 1: this is what I do now? Like, what does life 909 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:24,320 Speaker 1: look like for you these days? 910 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:28,120 Speaker 2: Oh? It's so insane. Yeah, it's funny because people are like, 911 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,759 Speaker 2: do you live an eye? Because since I've moved in October, 912 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 2: I've never been here for longer than two weeks at 913 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 2: a time, okay, because I'm always traveling. It's every single week, 914 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:43,480 Speaker 2: if not every other week, I'm gone on a plane 915 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:49,640 Speaker 2: driving somewhere to San Diego or wherever. And it's me 916 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:53,520 Speaker 2: either training people. When I'm here, I work on behind 917 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,839 Speaker 2: the scenes a lot of Nike, but I'm also you know, 918 00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,280 Speaker 2: in front of the camera for Nike stuff, being featured 919 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,840 Speaker 2: as a trainer. I'm filming a lot of workouts. I 920 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,239 Speaker 2: partner with Women's Health doing you know, form videos or 921 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:09,680 Speaker 2: workout videos, and same thing with Nike form videos workout 922 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:13,879 Speaker 2: videos also with an order track. So if I were 923 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,239 Speaker 2: to split up my time and actually like figure out 924 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,640 Speaker 2: what it is, I feel like it's like thirty percent 925 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 2: I might make this math wrong, thirty percent training, twenty 926 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:29,319 Speaker 2: percent like behind the scenes on camera, and then like 927 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,719 Speaker 2: another thirty percent in front of the camera. What I 928 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,680 Speaker 2: got twenty percent ten percent chill in time. 929 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:38,360 Speaker 1: That was impressive, I know, like the math was impressive. 930 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,879 Speaker 1: Twenty percent chill in time. It's funny with traveling so much, 931 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:43,759 Speaker 1: I often find that I get a lot of my 932 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 1: chill in time on the plane. Yes, I got upgraded 933 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,920 Speaker 1: to first class the other day, and it was like, yeah, 934 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,000 Speaker 1: I love that. If they were like there'll be no 935 00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:54,719 Speaker 1: entertainment on this play, I was like, this is going 936 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:56,239 Speaker 1: to be five and the hours of meditating. 937 00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,880 Speaker 2: Yeah for real. Though, Well, and it's funny that you 938 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,320 Speaker 2: say that because I was us noticing the other day, 939 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,080 Speaker 2: like I love being on the plane and just like 940 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,520 Speaker 2: sitting there, like put my phone away and just chill 941 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,400 Speaker 2: and I'll listen to a podcast or journal or whatever. 942 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,359 Speaker 2: But the other day, or remember sitting next to two 943 00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 2: women that were just like looking through the phone and 944 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:17,680 Speaker 2: they weren't even looking at anything. They're just flipping, yeah, flipping, closing, 945 00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:22,560 Speaker 2: And I'm like, blocks, yeah, you know, okay, it's okay, it's. 946 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,520 Speaker 1: Okay to let go, I know. 947 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 948 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,239 Speaker 1: So now, I mean you've been a trainer for a 949 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,799 Speaker 1: considerable amount of time. Yeah, what would you say, has 950 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,200 Speaker 1: been one of the best pieces of advice that someone's 951 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:37,600 Speaker 1: offered you in this, you know, chapter of your career. 952 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:40,920 Speaker 2: This chapter of my career. 953 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:41,239 Speaker 1: Yeah? 954 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:48,400 Speaker 2: Man, oh man. Do you know Brian Juniez. No, Brian 955 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:53,080 Speaker 2: Juniez is a also a fellow Nike Master trainer and 956 00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,520 Speaker 2: he actually just one idea Fits Trainer of the Year Wow. 957 00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:02,120 Speaker 2: And he I feel like, I don't have any specific 958 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:06,319 Speaker 2: advice that he's given me, but I any time I 959 00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,359 Speaker 2: talk to him, he's just always like, shine your light, 960 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,560 Speaker 2: and He's just like, continue to be you. And I 961 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:15,440 Speaker 2: think that I always, like, anytime I ever like stray 962 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,560 Speaker 2: away from what it is that I like doing or 963 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,120 Speaker 2: what I feel like, I believe it, always think of 964 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,640 Speaker 2: Brian as being there, like just like I love your energy, 965 00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,520 Speaker 2: be you, you know. And I think that's the one 966 00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,880 Speaker 2: thing that's so important is ever you know, when we 967 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:31,040 Speaker 2: are so overstimulated with Instagram and everything, you find yourself 968 00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,360 Speaker 2: comparing a lot and I don't even notice that I 969 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,160 Speaker 2: do it, but I'm like, oh, what is that person doing, 970 00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:41,759 Speaker 2: and I just have to always remember, like I am 971 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:43,840 Speaker 2: where I am because of who I am and what 972 00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,560 Speaker 2: I do and because I'm so passionate about me about 973 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,960 Speaker 2: it and I'm so unapologetically myself. And I think that's 974 00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,640 Speaker 2: the one thing that I that I've ever heard from people, 975 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,200 Speaker 2: like when they're just like just being yourself. That's I 976 00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:57,560 Speaker 2: don't know, I think, And that applies to so many 977 00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:58,680 Speaker 2: different things, not just training. 978 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:02,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, totally, speaking of comparing a lot, I feel like 979 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,960 Speaker 1: it's kind of inevitable in this crazy age of social media, 980 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:10,320 Speaker 1: especially you know how many followers you have on Instagram now, Like, yeah, 981 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:16,280 Speaker 1: a lot, So it's almost inevitable. How do you avoid 982 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,400 Speaker 1: what can be like this black hole of comparison? 983 00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, first of I don't even really scroll a 984 00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:26,000 Speaker 2: lot on Instagram. I don't really watch a lot of stories. 985 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,400 Speaker 2: I actually just go to my friend's pages and watch them, 986 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,520 Speaker 2: or sometimes if I see someone like my thing, Like 987 00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,279 Speaker 2: I'm very sporadic with Instagram, Like if I see someone, 988 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,040 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I should look at their thing. Yeah, 989 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,240 Speaker 2: but I just never get in this like twenty minute 990 00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,800 Speaker 2: like staring at the phone and like it's super mindless. 991 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:42,319 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people need to get out 992 00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,040 Speaker 1: of that. I actually remember that. Kirsty said the same thing, 993 00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:46,600 Speaker 1: but she doesn't scroll anymore. 994 00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:48,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't scroll. I just check up on my friends. 995 00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:50,399 Speaker 2: It's funny because my friends always call me out because 996 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,319 Speaker 2: they're like, all of a sudden, I'll just like, like 997 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,920 Speaker 2: done other pictures. Yeah, They're like, what are you doing? 998 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:56,600 Speaker 2: Are you're creeping on me? Like, yes, I am creeping 999 00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,239 Speaker 2: on I'm just keeping up, just keeping up. Yeah, yeah, 1000 00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,680 Speaker 2: because I don't. Really I'd rather get to know someone 1001 00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:06,160 Speaker 2: in person anyway, you know, because for me personally, I 1002 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:07,920 Speaker 2: feel like there's so much more to me than what 1003 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:12,120 Speaker 2: I portray on my Instagram. You know. I try as 1004 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,360 Speaker 2: much as I can to show different aspects of me, 1005 00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,719 Speaker 2: but I feel like me in three D is so 1006 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:20,600 Speaker 2: different than the Instagram. So if I know that about myself, 1007 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,000 Speaker 2: I know that's true for a lot of other people. 1008 00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,439 Speaker 2: So I just try to remember that because people only 1009 00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:30,719 Speaker 2: show their highlight reels and people don't realize all the 1010 00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,080 Speaker 2: hard work that people are doing behind the scenes too. 1011 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,480 Speaker 2: And also a nice reminder is usually the smartest, most 1012 00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,000 Speaker 2: richest people aren't on Instagram, you know, and the people 1013 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:40,840 Speaker 2: that are doing a lot more aren't showing everything what 1014 00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:42,160 Speaker 2: they're doing on in s certing because I we don't 1015 00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,880 Speaker 2: even have time to do it all on Instagram, but 1016 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:47,880 Speaker 2: I don't. I think it's just one of those things 1017 00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:51,600 Speaker 2: where I try to run my business where I utilize 1018 00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,799 Speaker 2: it as much as it possibly can. But I'm trying 1019 00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,160 Speaker 2: to grow and use my business as if tomorrow it 1020 00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,040 Speaker 2: shuts down, it will never be there again. I think 1021 00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,920 Speaker 2: it's really important to do that because it's pretty possible. 1022 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:03,759 Speaker 2: There's that one day. I remember was like a few 1023 00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,279 Speaker 2: weeks ago, Instagram was gone for like a day and 1024 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:08,920 Speaker 2: people were like, I have no idea, I don't know 1025 00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,920 Speaker 2: what to do, and so I just one of those 1026 00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,279 Speaker 2: things you have to just remember that, and you know, 1027 00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:18,560 Speaker 2: with the comparison thing, I think that's where again knowing 1028 00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:20,319 Speaker 2: what your values are and what you stand for and 1029 00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:24,160 Speaker 2: knowing what you do well and understand. I think when 1030 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:25,719 Speaker 2: I was listening to Kirsty saying, she was talking a 1031 00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:27,320 Speaker 2: lot about how like Yo, she used to wonder like 1032 00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,560 Speaker 2: why that person got this and why that person got that, 1033 00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:32,920 Speaker 2: and comparing yourself. But I think you have to have 1034 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,560 Speaker 2: that abundance mindset no matter what because there's enough to 1035 00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,920 Speaker 2: go around for everyone. You know, if one person's getting 1036 00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,560 Speaker 2: this job over somebody else, or one person's working with 1037 00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:45,239 Speaker 2: this brand. You know, people often ask why you get 1038 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,000 Speaker 2: worked with Nike or why you became a Nike Master Trainer, 1039 00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:51,120 Speaker 2: and why they aren't one. You know, it's it doesn't matter, 1040 00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:52,960 Speaker 2: you know, like if you know what you stand for 1041 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,719 Speaker 2: and if you're so unapologetically yourself and you're proud of 1042 00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,239 Speaker 2: who you are, all those extra things like doesn't matter. 1043 00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,040 Speaker 2: And I think whenever I just really on who I was, 1044 00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,040 Speaker 2: it made me more confident because it's like if I 1045 00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:05,839 Speaker 2: if those brands don't love me, I'm cool, like cool 1046 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:07,880 Speaker 2: because I love myself and that's all that matters to 1047 00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:08,480 Speaker 2: you know. 1048 00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:12,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. Okay, So on the note of 1049 00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:16,520 Speaker 1: loving yourself, the way that I wind down the podcast 1050 00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:20,960 Speaker 1: every time is that I ask my guests. Right now, 1051 00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,840 Speaker 1: you have the opportunity to offer the Betina a piece 1052 00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:27,160 Speaker 1: of advice looking back on that time, either you know, 1053 00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,280 Speaker 1: during those two days when you didn't have a phone 1054 00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,240 Speaker 1: and you were kind of questioning all that you thought 1055 00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,040 Speaker 1: that you were doing in that Hurtle moment, or maybe 1056 00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,279 Speaker 1: it's back you know, when you're in the band and 1057 00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,319 Speaker 1: you feel like you have to leave everything behind to 1058 00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,360 Speaker 1: like follow this other passion and you're just unsure. You 1059 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,240 Speaker 1: have an opportunity to offer yourself a piece of advice 1060 00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,440 Speaker 1: going through some of those tough times. Right now, What 1061 00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:49,360 Speaker 1: do you tell yourself? 1062 00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,920 Speaker 2: I am laughing to myself because I would tell myself 1063 00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:58,560 Speaker 2: to listen to that Lizzo song Soulmate. It's my favorite song, okay, 1064 00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,319 Speaker 2: because one of our lyrics is is look up in 1065 00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,479 Speaker 2: the mirror and say, damn, she's the one. 1066 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:05,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I just. 1067 00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,279 Speaker 2: Love it because she's just so unapologetically like in love 1068 00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:11,359 Speaker 2: with herself. And I think that the soulmate, It's like 1069 00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:13,719 Speaker 2: it's I'm my own soulmate. And I think I had 1070 00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:19,759 Speaker 2: to remember that, like in all of those times I'm 1071 00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,240 Speaker 2: number one. I mean, for so long I was giving 1072 00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,439 Speaker 2: to every single person, whether it be in my band, 1073 00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:27,600 Speaker 2: it was for our band leader, you know. And I 1074 00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:32,040 Speaker 2: think both of those realizations when I was, you know, 1075 00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,680 Speaker 2: going into fitness and then slowing down, it was just 1076 00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:38,760 Speaker 2: like remember to put yourself number one. You know, obviously 1077 00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:40,760 Speaker 2: you don't ever want to hurt anyone, but put yourself 1078 00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,279 Speaker 2: number one because you are the most important person. You 1079 00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,120 Speaker 2: are the only person that gets to live in your 1080 00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,719 Speaker 2: body and try not to let everyone else tell you 1081 00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:48,440 Speaker 2: how to live it. 1082 00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:52,279 Speaker 1: Yeah. Wow, what a great note to end, Padina, Thanks 1083 00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,759 Speaker 1: so much for hanging out with you. You please take 1084 00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:56,719 Speaker 1: a moment to leave a quick review by clicking the 1085 00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,600 Speaker 1: link with the description to this episode. We all face 1086 00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,160 Speaker 1: multiple hurdles in life. I want to hear about yours. 1087 00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,520 Speaker 1: Reach out to me at Emily at Hurdle dot us. 1088 00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:08,360 Speaker 1: Connect with the podcast on Instagram and Twitter at Hurdle 1089 00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:10,640 Speaker 1: Podcast Patina. 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