1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show Podcast. 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 2: Second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off right now. Everybody, 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 2: thank you for being here with us. Eight hundred two 5 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 2: eight A two. Former marine Daniel Penny pleads not guilty 6 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 2: in the death on the subway from a chokehold of 7 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 2: Jordan Neely. That headline today because Daniel Penny was at 8 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,919 Speaker 2: court earlier today to put in his pleaed second time 9 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 2: he's appeared before a judge. He faces nineteen years in 10 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 2: prison if he were to be convicted on both counts. 11 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 2: So this is a moment in time where we're seeing 12 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 2: that the authorities in New York City in this case, 13 00:00:55,840 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 2: Alvin Bragg, the district Attorney here and also so the 14 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 2: Mayor Eric Adams, are taking a side. In essence, they're 15 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 2: allowing this to go forward. They've made a determination that 16 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 2: people that step in and try to prevent career criminals, 17 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 2: which is what Jordan Nearly was, a man who had 18 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 2: been arrested many times for violent crimes, for sexual offenses, 19 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 2: a man who recently threatened to, according to a passenger 20 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 2: of the subway, pushed somebody in front of him on 21 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 2: coming subway car who had punched an elderly woman in 22 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 2: the face, shattering her eye socket and breaking her nose 23 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 2: no reason, just felt like shattering an old lady's nose 24 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 2: on the subway. That we're going to treat somebody who 25 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:51,919 Speaker 2: is not even the only individual who thought that Neely 26 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 2: was a threat. There was a man, a black man, 27 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 2: who stepped in as well to help. You don't hear 28 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 2: a lot of talk about that that he tried to 29 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 2: hold Nearly down because he was also considering him a 30 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 2: threat because Nearly said that he would kill people and 31 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 2: he would go to prison for it, and he was 32 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 2: shouting in their faces on the subway car. Clay, It's 33 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 2: interesting to see for a lot of New Yorkers that 34 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 2: I think all across the country that the new system 35 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 2: that we have in place is you are not only 36 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 2: subjected to higher crime rates in these democrat enclaves, but 37 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 2: if you do anything about it, you are the criminal 38 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 2: and the full force of the law will come down 39 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 2: on your head. This trial is going to be watched 40 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 2: by people all across the country, and I think it's 41 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 2: going to have major implications for the discussion around crime 42 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 2: going into twenty twenty four. Because Democrats increasingly want to 43 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 2: make self defense illegal. If the state decides that social 44 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 2: justice means you are murdered, you are raped and killed, 45 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 2: you are robbed in your home. This eight makes that determination. 46 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 2: The collective has spoken, that's what we're supposed to see. 47 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 3: Let's take it into individual decisions that people are making, 48 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 3: and in particular, I'll talk about my own life situation. 49 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: Buck. 50 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 3: We did the show Friday in New York City, you know, 51 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 3: and some people who followed me on social media have 52 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 3: seen I took three twelve year olds with another dad 53 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 3: to Yankee Stadium. I was staying in Midtown, near where 54 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 3: our studio is at iHeart and I took the kids. 55 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 3: We went and watched a Yankee game. It was fantastic, 56 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 3: had an awesome time. Went to watch them play against 57 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 3: the Mariners. I asked a couple different people in the 58 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 3: hotel and also around Fox News. I was like, Hey, 59 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 3: would you get on the subway with twelve year olds 60 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 3: and just ride out. 61 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: To Yankee Stadium? 62 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 3: And overwhelmingly they said, get in a car, Get in 63 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 3: a car, take the car to Yankee Stadium. 64 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: They said, several years. 65 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 3: Ago, I would have told you hop on the subway 66 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 3: you will be fine. I talked to the other twelve 67 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 3: year old's dad. He was like, I can't imagine telling 68 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 3: either of our wives if we took these twelve year 69 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 3: old boys on the subway and something happened, The first 70 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 3: thing they would say is why in the world were 71 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 3: you on the subway. They would never say if you're 72 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 3: in an uber and you're driving and there's an accident, 73 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 3: they would never say, why in the world were you 74 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 3: in an uber. Now, this is just a personal decision 75 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 3: that I made as a dad with a couple of 76 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 3: other twelve year olds go into a baseball stadium in 77 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 3: New York City. But to me, Bucket's representative of the 78 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 3: decisions that so many parents, and so many grandparents, and 79 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 3: so many people in their own lives are making every day. 80 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: And what else did I ask you? Buck? 81 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,919 Speaker 3: On Friday, we were in our studio in Midtown. I 82 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 3: had a couple of the twelve year olds here. They 83 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 3: said they were bored. They were playing I Can Go 84 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 3: Sneak on the iHeart radio and studio floors, and I said, 85 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 3: should I let them go outside and walk a couple 86 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 3: of blocks up to the Major League Baseball Store. For 87 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 3: those of you were familiar with it. My boys are 88 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 3: big Major League baseball fans. There's a great Major League 89 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 3: Baseball store on Sixth Avenue, huge store that they are 90 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 3: super excited. There's baseball cards, there's baseball jerseys. It's a 91 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 3: fabulous little store to go into. Big store. In fact, 92 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 3: I went after our show on Friday and met a 93 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 3: ton of our listeners there, Buck, So I appreciate everybody 94 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 3: who came up and said hi to me in that 95 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 3: Major League Baseball store. Buck, What did you tell me? 96 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 2: Can your opinion that you asked me, as a born 97 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 2: and raised New Yorker whether you could let your twelve 98 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 2: year olds walk around Midtown? You know, on attended a. 99 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: Two blocks just a few blocks up to that store. 100 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: What did you say? 101 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 2: I said no? And you know what, I asked my 102 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 2: parents who still live in Manhattan about this, Yeah, and 103 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 2: they said that was the right move. And after you 104 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 2: asked me this question, Carrie sent me a photo from 105 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 2: down in the West Village of Manhattan where a shirtless 106 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 2: maniac was walking. She saw this. This wasn't like the 107 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 2: same day, same day, shirtless maniac walking up and spitting 108 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 2: in people's faces on the street just because just because 109 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 2: he felt like it. Now he can do that knowing 110 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 2: that nobody is armed, because if you are, it's illegal. 111 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 2: Times Square is a gun free zone everybody. So all 112 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 2: the criminals and all the gang members know, hey, that 113 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 2: illegal firearm. It's like extra super illegal because of the 114 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 2: sign in Times Square, and they know that if they 115 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 2: do anything. If you get into a scrap on the 116 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 2: street with a lunatic who spits in your face, your 117 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 2: wife's face, and you lay hands on him to defend yourself, 118 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 2: Alvin Bragg's gonna lock you up, depending on how that goes. 119 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 2: That's the city that we live in now. 120 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think this is so interesting, Buck, because 121 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 3: a big part of being a parent is trying to 122 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 3: get your kids comfortable with being a little bit uncomfortable, right, 123 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 3: And I know every parent out there understands this, whether 124 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 3: it's teaching a kid how to swim, or whether it's 125 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 3: teaching a kid how to get home. And so I went, 126 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 3: and I'm always thinking about this because the boys, my 127 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 3: middle one's about to be in seventh grade, right, he's rising, 128 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 3: he's gonna be thirteen years old. 129 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: Soon. 130 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 3: At what age do you start to introduce them into 131 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 3: the dangers that might exist in the world at large, 132 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 3: because you don't want to keep them completely sheltered. And 133 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 3: I was thinking about this buck. You know, I like 134 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 3: the idea of teaching a kid to be self sufficient, 135 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 3: but I think there are a lot of parents out 136 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 3: there who also, in the back of their head because 137 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 3: of all this crime, think differently. And I'll give you 138 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 3: an example of what I did. That evening we went 139 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 3: to go see this new Harry Potter. It's not new, 140 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 3: it's been out for a little while. The Harry Potter 141 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 3: play on Broadway. It's fantastic. I really enjoyed it. I 142 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 3: love jk Rowling, by the way, because she's been willing 143 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 3: to speak out against this gender identity craziness, even though 144 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 3: it's been very consequential in terms of the attacks on her. 145 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 3: And then, you know, coming out, I said, Okay, you 146 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 3: got to get us back to the hotel, and so 147 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 3: I just put my twelve year old in charge. Hey, 148 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 3: walk around in the city, figure out how you're gonna go, 149 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 3: stay within sight distance of him so that I can 150 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 3: see everything that's going on, but let him go the 151 00:07:57,880 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 3: wrong way and have to learn how to. 152 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: Correct his direction. 153 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 3: I think there are lots of parents out there that 154 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 3: are this helicopter parenting, Buck, because you see the violence 155 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 3: and you are so concerned about. 156 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: It that it's leading to. 157 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 3: A situation where you don't feel like the Daniel Pennies 158 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 3: of the world are out there willing to protect your kids. 159 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 3: You don't feel like they're going to step up in 160 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 3: the event that somebody does something inappropriate because they're afraid 161 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 3: that they're going to end up being the target. And that, 162 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 3: to me is the ultimate lesson of the Daniel Penny situation. 163 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 3: We need Daniel Pennies. We need men twenty thirty year 164 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 3: old men who are strong and capable of protecting people 165 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,839 Speaker 3: who are weaker to do what he did. And when 166 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 3: you try to put him in prison, you tell people 167 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 3: that's the wrong decision, and you make violence more common. 168 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 2: Now, I would just I would point out that while 169 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 2: this was while this happened this morning, a lot of 170 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 2: people are still learning about a different case. 171 00:08:59,000 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 4: Now. 172 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 2: One of the things that you'll see that's different in 173 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 2: this case is Daniel Penny is white and Jordan Nearly 174 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 2: was black. That's the only reason we know about it, Buck, 175 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 2: This is why it's gotten national attention, and this is 176 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 2: why they are throwing basically, the maximum possible charges at 177 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 2: rent the maximum nineteen years in prison. Everybody, Okay, plenty 178 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 2: of people for Hain's crimes, don't get anywhere near nineteen years. 179 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,439 Speaker 2: That's what he could be sentenced to. Here, Okay, A 180 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 2: George Sorospack prosecutor Kim Fox is the prosecutor has dropped 181 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 2: all charges in Chicago in the case of Carlicia Hood. 182 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 2: Now you may not have heard of this story, this case, 183 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 2: but we're going to tell you about it now and 184 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 2: we'll get into a little more of a legal analysis 185 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 2: of it. There is video of this. Carlicia Hood was 186 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 2: waiting at a fast food restaurant in Chicago and this 187 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 2: was on This was a little over a week ago. 188 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 2: It's gotten a lot of tension because the videos out 189 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:02,079 Speaker 2: now so people can see. Jeremy Brown, who is now deceased, 190 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 2: got into an argument with Carlshia Hood. Now she's a mother, 191 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 2: Carlsia's fourteen year old son was there. Carlsi had told 192 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 2: her fourteen year old son to go to her car. 193 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 2: At some point during this argument she had with this guy, 194 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 2: Jeremy Brown, in line go to the car and get 195 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:23,079 Speaker 2: my gun. So she now is she was licensed to 196 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:24,959 Speaker 2: a gun, which is pretty rare in Chicago, but she 197 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 2: was licensed to have this gun. Go to my car, 198 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 2: get my gun. Jeremy Brown punches viciously three times in 199 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 2: the face, punches Carlshia Hood this woman, and it's all 200 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 2: on video. Now her son, she tells her son, you know, 201 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:46,079 Speaker 2: base or her son makes the decision open fire. So 202 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,319 Speaker 2: he starts. She doesn't say stop, he doesn't say I'm 203 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 2: calling the police. He opens fire on Jeremy Brown. Now 204 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:55,079 Speaker 2: someone's hitting my mom, and you know it's a man 205 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 2: hitting a woman. I'm there, okay, But Jeremy, so I 206 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 2: can understand that part of it. It's close because really, 207 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 2: you know, lethal force being used. But I think I 208 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 2: think that that's you could make the case lethal force 209 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 2: is justified because you know, punching a woman in the face, 210 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 2: you could, you know, you could break. 211 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 3: He's also fourteen buckets, unlikely that he can fight, like in. 212 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:16,839 Speaker 1: Retrain total man. 213 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 2: But I'm saying, But then Jeremy Brown runs out of 214 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 2: the restaurant. This guy after being shot, and the fourteen 215 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 2: year old guns him down further outside the restaurant in 216 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 2: the parking lot because his mom told him to right yes, 217 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,559 Speaker 2: that's important here too. The mother also said this is 218 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 2: according to reports, including the Daily Mail, she's getting litigious, 219 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 2: just so you know, she's already suing the prosecutors, which 220 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 2: that's not going anywhere, but yeah. The mother also said 221 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 2: to shoot a bystander woman who was laughing when she 222 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 2: was getting punched. She, according to the Daily Mail, instructed 223 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 2: the son, who is fourteen, to shoot somebody else who 224 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 2: was present. Now, she was initially arrested and charged with 225 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 2: uh with murder and contributing some feloty contributing to the 226 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 2: delinquency of a minor. Kim Fox saw this video, all 227 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 2: charges dropped. All the individuals involved here, the mother, the son, 228 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 2: and the now deceased assailant, Jeremy Brown. They're all black, 229 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 2: and Kim Fox decided that there are no charges of 230 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 2: any kind to be filed here anymore. She's dropped all 231 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 2: the charges. 232 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: Now. 233 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 2: I'm just comparing this because generally speaking, in self defense law, 234 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 2: if someone is running away from you and they've already 235 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 2: been shot, and you decide to keep shooting them in 236 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 2: the back while they're running away, it's pretty in a 237 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 2: public venue. It's not at home. There's no castle. Doctor 238 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 2: in here. It's pretty hard to claim self defense. Now, 239 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 2: I guess they're gonna say, he's fourteen, he can't know 240 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 2: these things. But the mother instructed him to shoot at 241 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 2: least that's what's been reported, and there's no charges here. 242 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 2: So I think it's fair to ask, Okay, so what 243 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 2: exactly is self defense law in America today? And how 244 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 2: much clay is it influenced by politics? How much is 245 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 2: it influenced by the race of the victim, the race 246 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 2: of the person I should say, the race of the 247 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 2: person using force, and the race of the person receiving 248 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 2: that use of force. 249 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 1: I think a massive amount. And this is my biggest issue. 250 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 3: We'll talk about this when we come back, because I 251 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 3: think this case, in conjunction with the Penny case, is 252 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 3: so utterly fascinating and I use this analogy all the time, 253 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 3: but I think it's so important. 254 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 2: Initial reports. Can I just tell you this, Yeah, initial reports. 255 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 2: This is just some one very clear initial reports by 256 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 2: the Chicago Defender kind of a local journalist who put 257 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 2: this video out reported Hood ordered her son to shoot 258 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 2: Brown as well as to shoot his girlfriend, the deceased 259 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 2: girlfriend who was laughing when he was punching. But Now, 260 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 2: of course Hood is disputing that that happened, but those 261 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 2: were all the initial reports. 262 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 3: So the reason I use this analogy, Buck is Lady 263 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 3: Justice's wine for a reason. To a large extent, almost 264 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 3: all of the lack of trust that I have in 265 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 3: the Justice Department is about disparate treatment based on who 266 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:15,959 Speaker 3: the defendant or who the accused is, right an unbelievable amount. 267 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 3: I think, to your point, who you are matters in 268 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 3: terms of what justice you face. Whether it's Nner Biden, 269 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 3: whether it's Daniel Penny, whether it's this shooting in a 270 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 3: restaurant at McDonald's. I think in a McDonald's in the 271 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 3: Chicago area. 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We're talking about justice 295 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 3: and how who the individuals are impact notions of justice 296 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 3: in this country. And this is one of the things Buck, 297 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 3: you learn in law school and we were having a 298 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 3: discussion off air continuing about what happened in I believe 299 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 3: it was the McDonald's in Chicago, and it's important to 300 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 3: play with fact patterns and subtly alter them. People on 301 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 3: social media say, oh, you're engaging in what about ism? 302 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 3: Sometimes right as an accusation when you do this. This 303 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 3: is actually the very foundation of the American judicial system 304 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 3: because the concept is we should treat like situations. 305 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: Likely. 306 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 3: In other words, if you're Hunter Biden and you're super 307 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 3: wealthy and your dad's the president, you shouldn't get treated 308 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 3: differently than someone else who engages in tax evasion. And 309 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 3: we'll take some of your calls, by the way, to 310 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 3: close out the hour, Ron Johnson, a center from Wisconsin's 311 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 3: going to join us here momentarily eight hundred and two 312 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 3: two two eight a two if you want to weigh in. 313 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: But Buck you. 314 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 3: Said, and I think this is really important. If this 315 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 3: is a white woman who is being punched by a 316 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 3: black guy in McDonald's, and she says to her son, 317 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 3: go get my gun, and he goes and gets the 318 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 3: gun and he shoots this guy. 319 00:16:58,320 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 2: And then she. 320 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 3: Says, chase him out outside and shoot him until he's dead. 321 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 3: And also allegedly she says shoot his girlfriend. This is 322 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 3: the number one story in America, and it's being characterized 323 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 3: as a lynching, and the woman and her son are 324 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 3: both being charged with murder. I just want you to 325 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 3: think about the way that who someone is changes our 326 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 3: notions of justice and the way media covers it, and 327 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 3: ask yourself, is that what should exist in a civilized society. 328 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 2: There should be no distinction made whatsoever in a self 329 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 2: defense case about the race of anyone involved. It's about 330 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 2: being a human being subject to law and having the natural, 331 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 2: inherent right of self defense. 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You can also call eight hundred and seventy 356 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 3: nine two thirty two sixty nine. 357 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 2: Clee Travis and Buck Sexton on the front Lines of Truth. 358 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 2: Welcome back to everybody here across the country who's hanging 359 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 2: out with us on Clay and Buck. Senator Ron Johnson 360 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 2: of Wisconsin is with us right now. Senator Johnson, thank 361 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 2: you for joining us. 362 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 5: Well, guys, glad to be on just found out this 363 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 5: is gonna be video so quick for you. 364 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 2: People should go check out Clayanbuck dot com or also 365 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 2: on our YouTube channel. We put up some clips from 366 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 2: the show throughout the day so check that one out, 367 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 2: Senator Johnson, Let's start with this. Clay and I spent 368 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 2: a lot of the first hour talking about the latest 369 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 2: of the Hunter and Joe Biden revelations regarding selling of office, 370 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 2: et cetera. What can you tell us about whether you 371 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 2: think anything will really come of this? I don't mean politically, 372 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 2: I'm talking about legally or otherwise. Is this gonna Is 373 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 2: this going anywhere? Your opinion? 374 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 5: Well, I mentioned this Monday night on a TV head 375 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 5: and I saw our on the Wall Street Journal also 376 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 5: recommending that the judge presiding over this should reject this 377 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 5: plea agreement now that all of this substruction that on 378 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 5: the part of the part of the justice of the FBI, 379 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 5: now that Van has been revealed to the IRS whistleblower, 380 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 5: the judge simply should not accept this plea agreement. Now, 381 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 5: I would also argue, take a look at the IRS 382 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 5: regulations in terms of statute of limitations. I mean, they 383 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 5: are pretty convoluted. I think you have to really seriously 384 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 5: take a look at when he filed these tax recurtains 385 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 5: and when these statue of limitations really ought to run. 386 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 5: It's one of more egregious obstructions here to allow those 387 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 5: statue of limitations to lapse on the more serious charges. 388 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 3: No doubt, Senator Ron Johnson, we're excited that he's got 389 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 3: six more years because he's been right about a lot. 390 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 3: I want to play you this cut. This is back 391 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 3: in October twenty first of twenty twenty. You were talking 392 00:20:55,480 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 3: about the Hunter Biden corruption, the laptop and Joe Biden's involvement. 393 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 3: And I don't even know if you remember this, but 394 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 3: Joe Biden was asked about it. 395 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 1: I want to play it for you. Here's what he said. 396 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 4: Wisconsin's Republican Senator Ron Johnson put out a statement on 397 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 4: Homeland Security letterhead saying Hunter Biden, together with other Biden 398 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 4: family members, profited off the Biden name. Is there any 399 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 4: legitimacy to Senator Johnson's claims? 400 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 6: None whatsoever. This is the same garbage Drudy Giuliani, Trump's henchman. 401 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 6: It's the lastest effort in this desperate campaign to smear 402 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 6: me and my family. Even the man who served with 403 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 6: him on that committee, a former nominee for the Republican Party, 404 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 6: said there's no basis to this, and you know, and 405 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 6: all and the vast majority of the intelligence people have 406 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 6: come out and said there's no basis at all. Ron 407 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 6: should be ashamed of himself. 408 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 3: Okay, Senator Johnson, he says, you should be ashamed of yourself. 409 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 3: A little bit two and a half years later, everything 410 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 3: you said, if not more, is one hundred percent true. 411 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 3: What would you like to say now? Because I bet 412 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 3: you don't get to talk to Joe Biden very often. 413 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not his favorite US Senator. Listen, the President 414 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 5: ought to be ashamed of himself, but he has no shame. 415 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 5: He's part of a corrupt Biden family. They're profiting off 416 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 5: of his name. And again he's he's absolutely shameless. I 417 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 5: heard earlier in the program you guys were talking about, 418 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 5: you know, why didn't the FBI tip off those intelligence advsels. 419 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 5: The FBI was fully engaged all through twenty twenty of 420 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,880 Speaker 5: covering up for the Bidens. And when the elected the 421 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 5: computer shop, they turned and talked to McK isaac and said, 422 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 5: you know, it's you know, this is a paraphrase, but 423 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 5: it's our experience that people don't talk about these things, 424 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 5: don't get in trouble or don't get hurt. You know, 425 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 5: we had a concerted campaign run against Sander Grassley and 426 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 5: I in the news media more than a hundred articles 427 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:56,199 Speaker 5: accusing us of soliciting and assembding Russian disinformation. You know, 428 00:22:56,240 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 5: the FBI briefed us unslicited briefing in August twenty twenty, 429 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 5: said that we were a target of Russian disinformation. Where 430 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 5: did all that come from? Who orchestrated that? And of 431 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 5: course had an impact And this isn't widely known, but 432 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 5: we were offered Hunter's computer the day after we issued 433 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 5: our report in September of twenty twenty. But because all 434 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 5: these claims of Russian disinformation sounded like pretty odd story, 435 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 5: we didn't know the stole and property. So guess who 436 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 5: we went to. We went to the FBI to determine 437 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 5: is this authentic? And for two or three weeks they 438 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 5: gave us the run around. We never took possession of 439 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 5: that the computer. In the end, mackays that got impatient, 440 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 5: turned that over to Ruge Giuliani in the New York Post. 441 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 5: But again, the FBI should have told the President pro ten, 442 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 5: the chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, the chairman of 443 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 5: Homeland Security, that that they had the computer that is authentic. 444 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 5: They should have total status soon as we contacted him, 445 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:52,679 Speaker 5: but they gave us the run around. They covered up 446 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 5: the bidens. 447 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is so important what you just told us. 448 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 3: Who ordered the code rat effectively in your opinion, to 449 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 3: protect the bidens, because we now know that the FBI 450 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 3: knew within a couple of weeks of taking possession of 451 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 3: this laptop in December twenty nineteen, that it was one 452 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 3: hundred percent real, and they were still engaging in the 453 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 3: fiction that it was Russian disinformation and actually trying to 454 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 3: get you colored as someone who was propagating Russian disinformation? 455 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 3: Who ordered the code? 456 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: Read? 457 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 3: Shouldn't every American need to know that in order to 458 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 3: have any faith and confidence at all in our justice system? 459 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 5: Lookin, that's the sixty four thousand dollars question, you know 460 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 5: all right? Now you can do is is assume, and 461 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 5: you have to assume based on knowledge. I mean, the 462 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 5: fact is the FBI knew that in December twenty nineteen. 463 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 5: I mean, you go back to their corruption. Look at 464 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 5: what they knew about the Russian collusion hoax. You know, 465 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 5: they knew that they're the subsource for the steel dots, 466 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 5: was somebody they were investigating as a Russian spy. And 467 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 5: yet they said nothing about it. They allowed would the 468 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 5: investigation continue? Be allowed for the Mueller Special counsel investigation. 469 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 5: So the FBI has been corrupt. I had the subpoena 470 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 5: Christopher Ray to get information on that corrupt investigation. I 471 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 5: didn't get squat from Christopher Ray. So again, this is 472 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 5: so much larger story than just the Biden family corruption, 473 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 5: as troubling as that is, as much as that compromised 474 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 5: the United States President, I mean the complistian corruption of 475 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 5: the mainstream media, of federal law enforcement, of our intelligence agencies. 476 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 5: This is a much larger story and there's so many 477 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 5: questions that are unanswered. 478 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 2: Senator Ron Johnson with US now and Senator you are 479 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 2: quoted here in a piece in the UK's Guardian. PGA 480 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 2: and Saudi back to live merger in enormous flux. So 481 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 2: this is about the golf stuff. Tell me about this 482 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 2: so I can impress play and bring it up later. 483 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 5: Well it is. I mean, now somebody's leap their five 484 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 5: page tentative agreement. The only thing that's binding on that 485 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 5: is that they dropped the lawsuits and prejudice and they 486 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,479 Speaker 5: can't bring him back up. But you know, the PGA 487 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 5: is fighting for his life. I think Live might be 488 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 5: ready to throw in the towel here. I don't know. 489 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 5: I really don't believe Congress should be playing a role 490 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 5: in this at all. But I'm ranking member on the 491 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 5: Permanent Subcommittee Investigation. The chairman of the committee has decided 492 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 5: to hold a hearing and do an investigation, so I've 493 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 5: got a responsibility to be involved in that. But I'm 494 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 5: gonna do everything I can to make sure that Congress's 495 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 5: role is constructive. I'm a real lover of the game 496 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,199 Speaker 5: of golf. I wish I was a better golfer, but 497 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 5: I love watching golf. I appreciate the perfection, the excellence 498 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,679 Speaker 5: of the players, the meritoxy the golf is, and I 499 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 5: just want to see the game be successful going forward. 500 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 3: Senator, thanks for that, and I wish I was a 501 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 3: lot better at golf too. I think the last time 502 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 3: I played, I posted about a one to eighteen, so 503 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 3: it was a rough round. I got a question for 504 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 3: you all about this dishonesty in the FBI Department of Justice. 505 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 3: I know you're in the Senate side, and I know 506 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 3: the House would have to initiate impeachment proceedings, but. 507 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 2: What do you think they should do. 508 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 3: Should Merit Garland be impeached, should Joe Biden be impeached? 509 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 3: We know they're not going to get removed. The votes 510 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,479 Speaker 3: aren't there in the Senate, But should that happen, and 511 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 3: what would it be? What would it mean to do that? 512 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 3: From your perspective as a senator who would get to 513 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 3: hear this trial. 514 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 5: The most important thing would be the impeachment inquiry, the hearings. 515 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 5: But you need documentation fan first. I mean, I want 516 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,479 Speaker 5: to encourage more whistleblowers to come forward. The reason we're 517 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 5: gaining this information now, I mean you sender grass and 518 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 5: we laid out all the vast webin financial entangleents of 519 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 5: the bidens. We laid out how corrupt they are. I 520 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 5: certainly did need any more evidence. The American public have 521 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 5: these seen It probably wouldn't need any more evidence, but 522 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 5: we'll need more evidence as much as this the House 523 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,679 Speaker 5: can gather through subpenis, through additional whistleblowers coming forward, and 524 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 5: then hold the hearings, holding piachment hearings on Garland, holding 525 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 5: peachman hearings on Mayarcus, on on Blncoln who lied to 526 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 5: us saying you never emailed Hunter Biden. The hearings would 527 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 5: be extremely important and revealing. 528 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 3: No doubt, Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, we got him 529 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 3: for six more years. We're happy about that, Senator, appreciate 530 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 3: the time. Good luck on the golf course. Stay well, 531 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 3: we will for sure. Tunnel the Towers Foundation has been 532 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 3: supporting America's heroes in their family since September eleventh, two 533 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 3: thousand and one. Like Franklin, Tennessee police officer Jeffrey Carson 534 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 3: and his family, this is my hometown, so it strikes 535 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 3: close to home. Indeed, Officer Carson left his country music 536 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 3: career behind in order to serve his community. 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That's 550 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 3: t the number two t dot org. 551 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 2: Heard it on the shelf here. 552 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 3: More on the podcast Clay and Buck podcast, Deep Dives, 553 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 3: more contents, more common sense. 554 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: Find the guides on the iHeart app. 555 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 2: Or wherever you get your podcasts. 556 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 3: Welcome back again, Clay Traps Buck Sexton Show Our thanks 557 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 3: to Senator Ron Johnson. You know you want to go 558 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 3: to a list of controversial topics and a dude who 559 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 3: just nailed them all, Buck, I mean, I was so excited. 560 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 3: I know twenty twenty two did not go the way 561 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 3: that many of us wanted, but Jaron Johnson is such 562 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 3: a warrior for him to get in for six more years. 563 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 3: He was right about all of COVID. He's been right 564 00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 3: about the Biden crime family. And it's called contra vital right. 565 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 3: You know something is controversial when the left doesn't like it. 566 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 3: I've never had a controversial opinion that was remotely considered 567 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 3: left wing right. Everything that I've ever said, they shouldn't 568 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 3: have men and women's men and women's sports, like, oh, 569 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 3: the controversial Klay Travis. It's amazing how often Ron Johnson's 570 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 3: called controversial when everything that he said is true. Right, 571 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 3: I haven't heard anything that he said on any of 572 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 3: these major subjects that's ended up being wrong. 573 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 2: Yes, isn't it fascinating that our side is constantly bombarded 574 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 2: with the eh disinformation stuff? 575 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: Yeah? 576 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 2: On Russia collusion, we were all right. On Hunter Biden 577 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 2: been selling access and influence, we were all right. I mean, 578 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 2: you know, you go down this list and you start 579 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 2: to say, at what point is it just clear to 580 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 2: everybody that the media is just warring propaganda machines now, 581 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 2: And you know, some propaganda is good and correct and 582 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 2: some is not. People think of propaganda as always this 583 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 2: this dirty word. It actually started within the Catholic Church, 584 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 2: I think in the sixteen hundreds for the propagation of 585 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 2: the true faith. The propagan gets you look at you, 586 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 2: mister Nerd dropping knowledge here, Yeah, propagation of the true faith. 587 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 2: And so it was a program to send and I 588 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 2: think it was in the face of a lot of 589 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 2: schismatics and what do you call it? Protestant stuff? And Reformation, 590 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 2: So it actually comes from the Catholic Church. There you go. 591 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 3: That's where the propa word propaganda from the last This 592 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 3: reminds me buck up Jeopardy. Our discussion yesterday and our 593 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 3: producer Alison a VIP email. Did you see this? I 594 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 3: just want your take. If you haven't seen this email, 595 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 3: I'm gonna read it. 596 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 2: Jim. 597 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 3: We appreciate the fact that he's a VIP. He wrote 598 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 3: in and said, Clay, I'm sure you've heard of ozimpic, 599 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 3: the pre diabetes drug with the side effect of significant 600 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 3: weight loss. But you need ezimpic. This is a drug that, 601 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 3: with proper and regular use, will significantly defeat deflate an 602 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 3: overinflated ego. Based on your comments about Celebrity Jeopardy, you 603 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 3: appear to believe that you are a celebrity, I e. 604 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 3: A famous person. Sorry to burst your bubble, but you 605 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 3: are not a celebrity. So okay, let me just fuck am. 606 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 3: I like of all the things that I might say 607 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 3: that is braggadocious in nature, I said that I would 608 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 3: do well on Celebrity Jeopardy. You are a Jeopardy fan. 609 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 3: There are lots of people on Celebrity Jeopardy who are 610 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 3: not that famous. I mean, we're not talking about Brad Pitt, 611 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 3: Beyonce and Taylor Swift competing on Celebrity j I know. 612 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 2: People from our business who have been on Celebrity Jeopardy 613 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 2: and and not just you know, make your head any bigger, 614 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 2: but you are more famous than those people. 615 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think that that's what I'm saying. 616 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna be honest about it. 617 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 3: I'm not saying that I'm like an A list celebrity here. 618 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 3: Celebrity Jeopardy is a very expansive definition of celebrity. So, Jim, 619 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 3: I appreciate the wit of your email, but I think 620 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 3: I would qualify all right, But you are still in 621 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 3: New York City, Yes, sir? When were you scheduled to 622 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 3: return to Miami. 623 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 2: I mean I was supposed to be back in Miami 624 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 2: on Monday, and it got delayed for basically, I couldn't 625 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 2: get home until tomorrow. I'll be home to not's assuming. 626 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 2: I don't get I've never seen anything like this before. 627 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 2: And I'm not here to say that it's all Joe 628 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 2: Biden's fault that the airlines are such a mess. But 629 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 2: I am here to say that I blamed Pete Buddha judge, 630 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 2: like someone's doing something wrong. Okay, I probably blamed Biden too, 631 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 2: but no, seriously, it's I've never seen anything like it. 632 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 2: They've just completely abandoned thousands of flights because of so. 633 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 3: So you were getting back three days late of when 634 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 3: you were scheduled. Now it's not a huge deal for 635 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 3: you because you were from New York City, family here, 636 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 3: so it's. 637 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 2: Actually turned into like a nice little family vacation. But yes, 638 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 2: although I have to. 639 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 3: Worry, but this happened also around Christmas, when Southwest Airlines 640 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 3: effectively collapsed. I don't think the media has caught up 641 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 3: yet as we get ready for the July fourth holiday, 642 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 3: and I know a lot of you out there are 643 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,719 Speaker 3: experiencing this. Heck, some of you may be listening to 644 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 3: us right now while stranded in places you don't want 645 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 3: to be. 646 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 2: The whole East Coast. 647 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 3: This morning, we were supposed to have meetings for OutKick, 648 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 3: and we had people who were flying in from New 649 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,720 Speaker 3: York City to Nashville. They couldn't get on their flights, 650 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,760 Speaker 3: and they couldn't get on their flights for two days 651 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 3: they were rescheduled. 652 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 2: So they're like, screw it. We're not going to have 653 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 2: this meeting. 654 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 3: People all over the country right now are unable to 655 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 3: travel and buck, by and large. It's not like it 656 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 3: was in the winter when they said, oh there was 657 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 3: an ice storm. There's a weather related issue and everything 658 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,839 Speaker 3: shut down. By and large. Weather's pretty good all over 659 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 3: this country. I know it's hot some places, but this 660 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 3: story has the media has not caught up, I don't 661 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 3: think yet with how much of a disaster right now, 662 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 3: trying to travel on airlines is. 663 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 1: And I know a lot of you were caught up 664 00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 1: in it. 665 00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 2: Kind of since we're doing random stories, can I throw 666 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 2: it aroundom story right now? Yes, just because if you 667 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 2: know why not. We're gonna get in a serious stuff 668 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,399 Speaker 2: here in a few moments. Again, Clay is probably gonna 669 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 2: tell us Hunter Biden is his toast. It's just a 670 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 2: matter of time. We'll get into the latest on that. 671 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 2: But do you see this guy in the Everglades speaking 672 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:15,320 Speaker 2: of Pholida. 673 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm fired up about him. 674 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 2: He's told don't reach over on the side of the 675 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 2: boat by his friend. It's on video. We should put 676 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 2: this on clayanbuck dot com. And he goes, nah, man, 677 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 2: it's cool and he reaches over the side of the 678 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 2: boat they're fishing, and a shark in real time grabs him, 679 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,840 Speaker 2: bites him, pulls him into the water in the Everglades 680 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 2: with water just teeming with sharks. It was a lemon shark, 681 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 2: so it wasn't a super big, scary shark, but it's 682 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 2: still like bit off a chunk of his hand, pulled 683 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,359 Speaker 2: them in the water, clay when your buddy says, don't 684 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 2: reach in, there are sharks. Lesson learned. 685 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 1: He also said, I'm just gonna do it for like 686 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:55,840 Speaker 1: two seconds. 687 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 2: Yep. 688 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 3: Here's my other thing on this buck. And I actually 689 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,720 Speaker 3: want to we should this over to the next segment 690 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,880 Speaker 3: because I'm still fired up about it. That felt really 691 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:09,319 Speaker 3: unfair to me because when you're in the Everglades, if 692 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 3: an alligator had leapt out of the water and grabbed him, 693 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 3: you'd have been. 694 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 1: Like, Okay, that's the Everglades. 695 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 3: A shark in the Everglades, and I know there is 696 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,800 Speaker 3: some brackish water there, but it's like dark water. 697 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 1: You shouldn't be fair. 698 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:23,280 Speaker 2: I'm not fair to get. 699 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 1: Grabbed a shark there. 700 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 2: He's fine, Just to be clear, he got his hands bitten, 701 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 2: but the guy's gonna be fine. But you know, in 702 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 2: the animal kingdom, sometimes it's your day. Like a grizzly 703 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 2: bear gets you, and you know it's a rough day, 704 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,720 Speaker 2: and that's the end of it, right. A gray white 705 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 2: shark an incredibly powerful predatory machine. If you get got 706 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 2: by a lemon shark, I don't know, that's like getting 707 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 2: killed by a rogue squirrel. Like that's just not You 708 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,319 Speaker 2: don't want to go out because a lemon shark gets you. 709 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 2: That's the rimp of the shark kingdom. 710 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 3: I want to give credit to that guy for getting 711 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,279 Speaker 3: back in the boat so fast. I think I might 712 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 3: have had a heart attack. If a shark grabbed me 713 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 3: and dragged me into the water in the Everglades, I 714 00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 3: don't know that I would have recovered. 715 00:36:59,080 --> 00:36:59,839 Speaker 1: I think i'd be dead.