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Visit Asy Cardinals dot com 11 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: Slash podcast. Here we go one hand to catch at 12 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: a touchdown? Oh baby, put Phil. Here's Craig Griolou and 13 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: Paul Calvc well once again running the two man game 14 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:55,279 Speaker 1: here and very excited about this week's show. For the 15 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: next hour, Paul, we'll teach us about football. At least 16 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: that is what I've been told and what I hear 17 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: whenever Paul calvc is on the air. Not so much you, 18 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: Craig Grilo. It's Ron Wolfley, all right, that's when we 19 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 1: bust out to let me tell you about football because 20 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: I will tell you I don't need any more stinking 21 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: pictures sent from their vacations from the two voices we 22 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 1: just heard, Dave Passion, Ron Wolfley going on about twenty 23 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: years as a collective voice of the airs on a Cardinals. 24 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,559 Speaker 1: If I get another stinking picture from Italy of Dave 25 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: Pash's castle and the vacation up in Tuscany and all that, 26 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 1: I don't need it. Let's talk ball, all right, Well, 27 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,119 Speaker 1: there is a reason we do have Paul Calvc here 28 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 1: for this week's Cardinals Read Sea Report presented by Seat Geek. 29 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: Get your seats in a seat. When we talk defense 30 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: and specifically defensive line, I'll give you credit. Might want 31 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: to mark this. Yeah, where's here we go? It was 32 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: you who I first heard. Now whether you got this 33 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: from someone else, but when you talk about the defense 34 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: and the defensive line, just how valuable a full season's 35 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: worth of JJ Watt could be devanced Joseph and the 36 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: entire Arizona Cardinals team in twenty twenty two. It's not 37 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: just his production, it's not just a former three time 38 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: NFL Defensive Player of the Years. It's his leadership. It's 39 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: just walking into a football game and you have the 40 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: badass that is JJ Watt walking in with you, like 41 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 1: walking into a biker bar and you have some sort 42 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 1: of superhero black belt walking in with the all of 43 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: a sudden, you know one, you might be a little 44 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 1: more mouthy in that bar. It's just sort of a 45 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: mentality and attitude. It is the leadership that JJ Watt 46 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: exhibits at all times. Heck, you saw it at the 47 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: end of the mandatory mini camp, Craig. There was head 48 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: coach Cliff Kingsbury. The whole team gathered round. You know what, 49 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: next stop training camp, do the right thing over the 50 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 1: next five or six weeks, and JJ Watt was firing 51 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: guys up and delivering an impassion speech as to what 52 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: the expectations are starting with a twenty twenty two season, 53 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: and when guys report on July twenty six, he's always 54 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: first in line. When you walk practice and he goes 55 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: full speed. Coaches have to kind of dial him back 56 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: a little bit. Just that's how he is. And when 57 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,679 Speaker 1: you look at what he was able to accomplish and 58 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: just a very short amount of time last season seven 59 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: games worth well, the Cardinals were seven and oh and overall, 60 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: the stats don't look great. But he did produce those 61 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 1: final three games, and it's just the other team having 62 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: to accounts for number ninety nine, and that opens up 63 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: everything else for this teammates. It's another player that the 64 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: quarterback breaks the huddle and says to himself, Okay, wait 65 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: a minute, where's ninety nine? Just like where's Buddha Baker? 66 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: Just like where's I? Says Simmons lined up. These are 67 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: the kind of just like Chandler Jones used to be, 68 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: where's fifty five? So these are the things that give 69 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: offensive coordinators and quarterbacks pause. And when jj Watt was 70 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: out there, especially as you cited his last three or 71 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: four games where he really showed up in the box 72 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: score and in the stats. Look, we all know what 73 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: a penetrating defense of Lynman does for any defense up front. 74 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: It's the quickest way to a quarterback. It's why Lorenzo 75 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: Alexander said when they were ranking just recently said when 76 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: they were ranking the top combination of edge rushers in 77 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: the NFL that it was a flawed theory. It should 78 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 1: be Aaron Donald and anyone alongside Aaron Donald, because that's 79 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: how dominant well jj watted his best is that sort 80 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: of difference maker and he can be that guy for 81 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 1: the Cardinals defense if if he stays healthy this season. 82 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: Here those numbers that we referred to those last three 83 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: games that JJ Watt played last season. Nine tackles, three 84 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 1: tackles for loss, a sack, seven quarterback hits, two passes defense, 85 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: and one force fumble. Now you wonder what he's able 86 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: to do for seventeen games. Here it's head coach Cliff Kingsbury. 87 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: I think there were seven and oh he was rocking, 88 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: you know, full go and he was up there on 89 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: the pressure rate. And he brings so much more to 90 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 1: the team. I mean, like I've said it before, kind 91 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: of has that Brady effect. Horn guys are in the 92 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 1: field with him. They don't want to let them down. 93 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: They don't want to not know their assignment or loaf 94 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: to a play because they know how hard he goes, 95 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 1: how well prepared he is. And he's a special talent 96 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: on and off the field for us. And it would 97 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 1: be great if we can have him all seventeen games. 98 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: And you hear coach mentioned his teammates and one of 99 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 1: those players, and there's now a lot when you talk 100 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: about a Cameron Thomas added to this team as far 101 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: as that front seven is concerned. But a Zach Allen, 102 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:25,239 Speaker 1: Michael dogby all of these players not making JJ Watt 103 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: feel old. But they watched jj Watt in Houston, watched 104 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: him as they grew up, wanting to be on that 105 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: football field and be a JJ Watt. And the Brady 106 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: effect is very real. I mean, it's amazing that I 107 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: forgot about that SoundBite because just last week in the 108 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: Big Red Ray, JQ Shipley was our guest. NAE won 109 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: a ring with Tampa in twenty twenty, and I just 110 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 1: asked them about how you know they hadn't even been 111 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,359 Speaker 1: to the playoffs Tampa despite a lot of talent in 112 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: a dozen years, Tom Brady shows up, they win the 113 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: Lombardi and a Q Shipley said, it was exactly that 114 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,919 Speaker 1: that Brady effect. The guys don't want to let him down, 115 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: that he so invested, he has so much time before 116 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: and after practices. Everyone sees the commitment by a future 117 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, maybe the greatest ever to play the 118 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: game at any position, and so guys don't want to 119 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: let him down, and that that's what JJ Watt does 120 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: for that room. And you saw it's also just the 121 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: bravado on the sideline and the confidence you get. I mean, 122 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 1: it was that first game in that Big Jack stomping 123 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: to the Titans last year, and there he was. NFL 124 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 1: films caught him on the sideline. No one should be 125 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: surprised by this. This should be the expectation, and that 126 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: is what he does. That's sort of the JJ Watt 127 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 1: effect from what I saw last year, is he does 128 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 1: set expectations and he has to be in uniform. It's 129 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: one thing when he's standing on the sidelines watching and 130 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: still trying to be that presence, but when he's on 131 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: the football field, and this goes for any player, you're 132 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: much better as far as leading by example as opposed 133 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: to just leading from the sideline. And I think there 134 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: is that natural trickle down effect to his teammates. And 135 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: you know what, if you go back to Kurt Warner 136 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl Run two thousand and eight season, 137 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: Kurt Warner talks at length about how when the Cardinals 138 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 1: clinched the vision, he noticed a real letoff guy said, 139 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 1: you know what, we checked that box. We're good. No, 140 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: you're not good. The next step is to make a 141 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: playoff run, not just make the playoffs, make a playoff run. 142 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: And I firmly believe if JJ Watt would have been 143 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: healthy when the Cardinals got to ten wins a year ago, 144 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: that he would have been that boot to the rear. 145 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: He would have been the guy setting those expectations. But 146 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: to your point, it's very tough to do when you're 147 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: on the injured list. He has to be healthy. And 148 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: speaking of health, we did see a healthy Zach Allen 149 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: for all seventeen games. Remember he did miss a couple 150 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: of games because he was on the reserve COVID nineteen lists, 151 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: but otherwise, first time last season that we saw Zach 152 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: Allen play an entire season without injury or missing time 153 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: due to injury. Although, as we learned this offseason, he 154 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: played most of that second half of the season on 155 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: basically one leg as he had to go under when 156 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: ankle surgery in the offseason. But his now is feeling fine. Yeah, 157 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: he said there were games where he's basically playing without 158 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: any ankle ligaments, which is hard to believe. And you 159 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: know what, is a testament to his toughness to be 160 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: that kind of guy to be out there, and he 161 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: played pretty darn well to be that banged up and 162 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,679 Speaker 1: he gutted it through because he knew the Cardinals needed 163 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: him on that defensive front. Here's the guy, along with 164 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: a Michael Dogby, who has been so invested the last 165 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,679 Speaker 1: few off seasons, really hasn't taken much of a break 166 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: if any, and has added weight, has added good weight, 167 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: and it's a big year for him going into a 168 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: contract year for a guy who's taken near the top 169 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 1: of the third round four years ago. Zach Allen that 170 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: only has a big season ahead of him in terms 171 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: of the Cardinals plans and the depth chart, but it 172 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: could be a big paycheck waiting for him if he 173 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:45,319 Speaker 1: cashes this thing. In set career highs in tackles, tackles 174 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: for lost sacks, quarterback hits, passes, defense, and fumble recoveries. Again, 175 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: most of that least the second half, as he said, 176 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 1: quote my tibia was basically floating, so the tape was 177 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 1: the only thing kind of holding it together. Quotes. He 178 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: is so healthy, enjoying this offseason, and the head coach, 179 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury, wants to see Alan take that next step 180 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: this year continues to improve. I would say that that's 181 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: the data saying from when we first got him here 182 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: to where you know at times he played last year. 183 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: I think he's just gonna get better and better his 184 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,079 Speaker 1: work at his trementus. It's got to stay healthy obviously 185 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: that that's number one, but very smart player and has 186 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: gained size, has gain strength, and each year has gotten better. 187 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 1: You look at now JJ Watt, Zach Allen, Lucky Foe 188 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: two or Shard Lawrence, Michael Dogbee. Those are pieces. Does 189 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: another piece need to be added within that defensive line room? 190 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: Rob Frederickson, who you had a chance to co host 191 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: last week's Big Red Rage with, mentioned defensive tackle. Perhaps 192 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: is a position that Steve Kime should look into. I 193 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if we're starting to time time looking 194 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 1: at some defensive tackle help. The more you can keep 195 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: those offensive linemen off of those linebackers and allow them 196 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: to be free runners and use their athletics is him. 197 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: You know that that is what a great defense really needs. 198 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: You know, Tony Sarah Goose arrest in peace, Um, what 199 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: he did for Ray Lewis and that Baltimore Ravens defense. 200 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 1: You can't overstate that. It really is the one of 201 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: the most important positions is to have those interior defensive 202 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 1: linemen stout and chewing up those offensive lineman, allowing athletic 203 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: linebackers like we have, allowing them for your reign to run. 204 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: It goes back to your earlier comment Paul here on 205 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: the Cardinals red seat report presented by get your seats 206 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: in a seat rushing up the middle. The quickest distance 207 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: between two points is a straight line, no doubt. And 208 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: if you have that big guy who can also take 209 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: the double team and allow those linebackers to flow and 210 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: goes sideline to sideline. To Rob's point, he should know 211 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: he spent a decade in league playing linebacker. That is 212 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: so invaluable. You look at what Aaron Donald does obviously 213 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: for the Rams defense. You go back to twenty twenty, 214 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: a Q Shipley mentioned three hundred eighty pound Vita Vea 215 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: and he was that guy. And you know how critical 216 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: Devin and that inside linebacker corps was for Tampa and 217 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: route to the Lombardi Trophy two years ago. Those guys 218 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: were an absolute force. And I think I think this 219 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: is just me surmising now if the NFL's a copycat lead. 220 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: I think the Cardinals front office took a look at 221 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: that Tampa twenty twenty NFL title team and said, guess what, 222 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: we need a couple of those. So they took Isaiah 223 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: Simmons and then they took Zavian Collins. But again, if 224 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 1: those offensive linemen are immediately getting off blocks or defeating 225 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: some of those down blocks and getting to the second level, 226 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 1: that's going to be a problem for those young linebackers make. 227 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: You know, we talk about getting pressure on the quarterback, 228 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: but also that running game and making sure that that 229 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: running back doesn't get to the third defensive linemen are 230 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: at least slowing the ball carrier down so those inside 231 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 1: linebackers can make a play. And you know what, that 232 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: right there is worth an investment in a defensive lineman. 233 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: In my opinion, we've talked about this. What is Seattle 234 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 1: gonna do? What is the only thing they can do 235 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: this year? Run the ball. They're not going to have 236 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: the quarterback to have a pass first offense, absolutely not. 237 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,559 Speaker 1: What does Kyle Shanahan do with that scheme? They want 238 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: to run on the ball. And then, of course Sean McVeagh, 239 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: the adjustment they made after that three game losing skid 240 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: last year was going to become more of a balanced offense, 241 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: go back to more of the Todd Gurley offense. They're 242 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: gonna have a healthy cam acres. This division likes to 243 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 1: run the ball. You better be able to stop the run. 244 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: Just getting started here on the Cardinals Red Sea Report 245 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: presented by Seat Get Get Your Seats in a Seats 246 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 1: a reminder. Episode thirty two. That Day Pash podcast featuring 247 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 1: Cardinals offensive lineman Justin Pew available now. To catch up 248 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: on past episodes, follow the Day Pash Podcast via your 249 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: preferred podcast provider. Get the let Us updates via Twitter 250 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: at hash pod. This is the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network 251 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: Daropolo back to pass goes over the middle behind the 252 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: Attendi receiver and a diving interception. It's a five yard line. 253 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: It's Jayalen Thompson with a pick. I thinks Jayalen Thompson 254 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: is just scratching the surface of what he could possibly be. Calm, 255 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 1: quick bro over the middle. It's broken up at the 256 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: forty yard line, incomplete by Jalen Thompson and made a 257 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 1: good play breaking on the receiver. You watch Jayalen Thompson 258 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: right there wind up. There's the slop. That was just 259 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,199 Speaker 1: what a quarter would typically do the way you broke 260 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:15,559 Speaker 1: on that slam. You forget Jaalen Thompson. Though not a 261 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: part of the twenty nineteen draft, was Little Asterix a 262 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: member of that draft class, drafted in the supplemental round 263 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: as the Cardinals gave up a fifth round pick for Thompson. 264 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 1: And you talk about Kyle Murray going into year four. 265 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,079 Speaker 1: We just talk Paul about Zach Allen. Year four for him. 266 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: It's year four for Jalen Thompson, and very quietly he 267 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: has moved up the ranks, if you will. For fans 268 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 1: that follow the Arizona Cardinals and looking at that defense 269 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:49,079 Speaker 1: as far as productivity and players that this team is 270 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: counting on. Every Cardinals fan who watched every play last 271 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: year has an appreciation for Jayalen Thompson, if nothing else, 272 00:13:56,640 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: just his open field tackling. I never ever thought I 273 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: would say that there is someone who rivals of Buddha 274 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: Baker when it comes to open field tackling. But the 275 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: two of those guys, for better or worse, saved a 276 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: lot of touchdowns last year with a lot of open 277 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 1: field tackles. And look, we've seen a number of safeties 278 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: over the years, Craig, you and me combined who weren't 279 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: so adept in the open field of tackling. It truly 280 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: is an art, It truly is a skill. And you 281 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: know what, he is a guy who didn't get nearly 282 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: enough attention for leading the Arizona Cardinals and tackles a 283 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: year ago. And if there is one guy who's poised 284 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: to get a lot more national recognition this year, my 285 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: vote would be for Jalen Thompson. Three interceptions, seven passes defense. Thompson, 286 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: when he addressed the media this offseason, mentioned that Buddha 287 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: Baker is pushing for him, both of them, to be 288 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: a part of the NFC Pro Bowl roster. That that 289 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: is the next step to get Jalen Thompson not just 290 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: local attention, but some national attention as well. And you 291 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: know what's great is is there's so versatile. You can 292 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: see Buddha Baker drop down into the box of the slot, 293 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: maybe even come off the edge and a safety blitz 294 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: and then the next snap, boom, they reverse it. There's 295 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: Jayalen Thompson threatening to come off the edge and right 296 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: pre snap he'll drop back into a center field high 297 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: safety position. It's just really interesting. When I'm on the sideline, 298 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: i have one eye on the offense when the Cardinals 299 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: on defense, and my other eye a lot of times 300 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: goes to those two safeties and how interchangeable they are. 301 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: And I gotta imagine for any quarterback that's really problematic 302 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: because they don't it's not a traditional strong safety free safety, 303 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: it's not a traditional box safety in center field safety. 304 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: Those guys are moving all over the place and it 305 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: gives Vance Joseph a lot of options. Buddha Baker, Jalen Thompson, 306 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: but specifically talking about Jalen Thompson, here's head coach Cliff Kingsbury. Yeah, 307 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: he's an incredible story. Getting drafted in the supplemental draft 308 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: like he did, coming in that late, just going right 309 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: to training camp and then emerging as one of our 310 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: better players on the team has been tremendous. And I 311 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: was very familiar with him because Mike Leach was at 312 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: Washington State when he was there and had heard all 313 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: these great things. But then you watch him day in 314 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: day out, the work ethic, the preparation, one of the 315 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: best elpen field tacklers in the league, and he's just 316 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: been a tremendous help for our defense. And might that 317 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: help be something that you just alluded to, but seeing 318 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: more of Jalen Thompson it maybe even Buddha Baker, but 319 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: play some nickel corner. We know the unfortunate news with 320 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: Jeff Gladney, and now all of a sudden a need 321 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: at cornerback when you're talking about a number three or 322 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: number four, could potentially a Jaalen Thompson be that guy? Well, 323 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: reverse engineer. Right, as you've adroitly pointed out throughout the 324 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: off season, where's Isaiah Simmons been practicing during the open 325 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: media sessions in terms of a position group the safeties? 326 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: So all right, wait a minute. If Isaiah Simmons is 327 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: going to be that safety and not necessarily a box 328 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: safety because we've seen him playing center field for Vance 329 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: Joseph as well, does that mean a Buddha Baker and 330 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: or a Jaalen Thompson could be the answer inside Now, Ideally, 331 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: and I've talked to a number of coaches about this, 332 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: Byron Murphy would be that slot corner. They think he 333 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: is except eptional as a slot corner, like a Pro 334 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 1: Bowl caliber slot corner. But by need and by necessity, Boom, 335 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 1: you might have to move him outside because of the 336 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: tragic passing of Jeff Gladney. So if that's the case, okay, 337 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: who would be that slot corner? And at this point 338 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 1: without a time time sign, yeah, I would say a 339 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:23,199 Speaker 1: Buddha Baker Jalen Thompson are as good at candidated as 340 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: anyone based on whatever coverage Vance Joseph is employing and 341 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: the coaches I think, and Kingsbury was asked specifically about 342 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 1: Thompson and Baker on being that slot corner. That might 343 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,199 Speaker 1: not be an entire game or an entire season, but 344 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: when needed, and it just might be something that you 345 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 1: are forced into doing because one with the roster is 346 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:45,640 Speaker 1: and in two, if that offense is going for why 347 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: five wide and you need that extra defensive back while 348 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: who's your best coverage guy? Maybe it is a safety 349 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 1: and think about it your week one matchup against Kansas City. 350 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: Is it too early to talk about week one matchups? 351 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 1: Absolutely not. We're already going there. Who do they have 352 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: as their most viable receiving threat right now? Minus Tyreek Hill, 353 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: it's Travis Kelsey. It's the tight end. So okay, have 354 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: we seen Buddha Baker battle George Kittle in the past, Yes, 355 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 1: we have, But in this case, probably the more opportune 356 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: matchup would be six foot four Isaiah Simmons. And so 357 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: if Isaiah Simmons is that guy, especially when a Travis 358 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: Kelsey flexes out and then boom, all of a sudden, 359 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: Jalen Thompson and Buddha Baker have the ability to play 360 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 1: more of a traditional safety role. But we all know 361 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes in that offense Andy Reid, they love to 362 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,919 Speaker 1: go four wide, ten personnel. All of a sudden, you 363 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 1: might need an Isaiah Simmons and a Buddha Baker or 364 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 1: a Jalen Thompson to be at the line of scrimmage 365 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 1: checking a man. It just might be that next thing, 366 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: that next step that Thompson was talking about this offseason, 367 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: getting him more involved, not that you can get any 368 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: more involved than he had already was leading the team 369 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 1: and tackles, but just doing it at a different position. 370 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: And he is once again we talk about the future. 371 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 1: Jalen Thompson, you would think is a part of this 372 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: future offensively and the entire Arizona Cardinals. And it's remarkable. 373 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 1: I mean, a fifth round supplemental pick and he's on 374 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,959 Speaker 1: the verge. I would say there's a real good chance 375 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: he's going to get a big bag along with a 376 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 1: Byron Murphy junior. You can pull these guys out of 377 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 1: the draft. They can be the core. Think about that 378 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 1: secondary right now. Think of how young all of them are, 379 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 1: all of them between twenty three and twenty six years 380 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: of age. If you can lock these guys down, this 381 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 1: can give you a lot of returns for a lot 382 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: of years. Not unlike when the Cardinals who were in 383 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: thirteen games and going NFC Championship games most recently in 384 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: a pat p he had a Tyron Matthew, he had 385 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: a Shad Johnson. I mean, these guys were the core 386 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: of a secondary. And once these guys play all these 387 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: games together and they get the snaps together, it just 388 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: becomes the communication becomes so next level, and they're able 389 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: to just make adjustments site adjustments. They look at each other, 390 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,199 Speaker 1: they can make eye contact, and it's so necessary and 391 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 1: vital in today's world of advanced NFL offenses and everything 392 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 1: they're trying to do to gain a little bit of 393 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: an edge and all these pre snap adjustments and audibles boom. 394 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: If your secondary can react accordingly and react instantly without 395 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 1: mental errors because they've played together so long, it's really invaluable. 396 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: You're not the only one thinking that potentially Thompson and 397 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 1: Byron Murphy might be in line for contract extensions. To 398 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: go back to the scouting combine in February, Gentlemanator Steve Kim, 399 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: I can't just look at this offseason. I have to 400 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 1: continually look three years in advance and try to see 401 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 1: where some of these contracts are going, how we're pushing 402 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: money forward, because it's going to catch up to you 403 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: at some point. You have to be cognizant about future years, 404 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 1: the way you structure these deals, and knowing that you 405 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: have a number of young players and it doesn't just 406 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: stop with Kyler. If you look at our roster makeup, 407 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: there are guys like Byron Murphy, Jalen Thompson, really good 408 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 1: young stars that obviously need to be rewarded too. And 409 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 1: again I would add a Zach Allen to that mix. 410 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: We all focus on the quarterback end right fully so, 411 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 1: but there are other players that are entering the final 412 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: year of their own deals that could be well on 413 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: their way to getting a contract extension. The big question 414 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 1: for Steve Kim right now is does he field the 415 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,719 Speaker 1: need in the urgency to add to that secondary, especially 416 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 1: when it comes to a corner. Now, we saw the 417 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 1: tryout and the eventual signing at the mandatory minicamp of 418 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: Josh Jackson, a former round two pick who had floundered 419 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 1: the last couple of years. Maybe just maybe they can 420 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 1: somehow get some return from him, a kid with good size, 421 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 1: still very young, you know. I mean, we saw what 422 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: happened when they're a soul Douglas last year he rediscovered 423 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: his career. Unfortunately did it with the Green Bay Packers. 424 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: Maybe they can somehow hit on a Josh Jackson. If 425 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: not Robert Alford. I mean, he's conspicuous by his tweets 426 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 1: out there. He got a figure. He's on the radar 427 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: and as someone who knows this defense and knows vance 428 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 1: Joseph and is a reliable outside corner. And you know what, 429 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 1: he's a true dog, Robert Alfred. We know that he's 430 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,400 Speaker 1: great and run support. I don't think anyone be surprised 431 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 1: if that's an addition. Right before camp, well they brought 432 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: back talking about Steve Kime and that front office they 433 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,679 Speaker 1: brought back in Antonio Hamilton. I'd like to see Robert 434 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:58,400 Speaker 1: Alford just selfishly brought back because we know one win 435 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 1: healthy and that's been the big question marked during his 436 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: three year run with the Cardinals. But when healthy, he 437 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 1: is a physical corner, not afraid of contact. And he 438 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 1: was playing very very well last season and you know 439 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 1: what it made for a sound secondary when he was 440 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,199 Speaker 1: in there. And you know this, but if you go 441 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 1: to the week fourteen Monday Night loss to the La Rams. 442 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,719 Speaker 1: Up until that game, the Cardinals secondary had given up 443 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 1: three plays of forty plus yards all year long, three 444 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: passing plays of forty plus yards in that game that loss, 445 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 1: that one score loss to the Rams. They gave up 446 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 1: three forty plus yard passing plays in that game alone. 447 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: That was the first game without Robert Alford. There was 448 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: some what of a trickle down effect once he left 449 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: the secondary. It was never quite the same. It was 450 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 1: never as buttoned up and as reliable as when Robert 451 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 1: Alford was in there. I'd love to see him back, 452 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: and I do think whether it's him or someone else, 453 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: that there is going to be another move made, not 454 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: just a Josh Jackson, but another veteran, another body in 455 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: that cornerback room, because yeah, there are some pieces, but 456 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: you know what they say, you need help, and you 457 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 1: can never have enough cornerbacks. You need at least three 458 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 1: viable cornerbacks in today's NFL, and a lot of coaches 459 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: would tell you four. And so it's an area of concern. 460 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 1: When you look at the Cardinals depth chart, you're like, Okay, 461 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 1: are they stacked? Can they compete? We'll find out. I mean, 462 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: we'll know based on whether Steve Kin makes a move 463 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: or not. Arizona Cardinals season tickets available now. Vis atasy 464 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: Cardinals dot com slash season for more information. This is 465 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals radio network. Garoppolo three steps, drop, steps up, kids, 466 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: hit and sack back at about the thirteen yards lined 467 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,959 Speaker 1: by Marcus Golden. When you need a play, forty four 468 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: is there? Starred Barkin get the Robinson running right and 469 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: met Bike Cannard, who got off a block and stuff 470 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: the play, hands it off, nowhere to run between the tackles. 471 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: Devon Knard back to throw Flacco sacked by Gardack. Oh 472 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 1: my goodness, what a move by Dennis Gardak. The barbarian 473 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 1: Flaco in the pocket, gonna get hit and sacked. Dennis 474 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: Gardak got him again. Dennis Gardak got up and did 475 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 1: a little barbarian dance around the fire? How many years 476 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,199 Speaker 1: Paul did? We ask a very simple question with not 477 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 1: so simple of an answer. The cornerback opposites Patrick Peters 478 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 1: repeatedly season in and season out. While a different take 479 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: on that question here is we continue on the Cardinals 480 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: red seat report presented by a sekie get your seats 481 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: and a seat. The question now is who is the 482 00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 1: edge rusher opposites Marcus Golden without Chandler Jones. Yeah, you 483 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: have Marcus Golden, but who else does this team have 484 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: to get after the quarterback? Who's going to be Marcus 485 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: Golden's hunting buddy? Yeah, because that's all you hear out 486 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: of Marcus Golden around the sideline. Let's hunt. We gotta 487 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 1: go hunt and right, and that's that's the key word. 488 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: All right. So, Marcus Golden, you're sack leader a year ago. Yes, 489 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 1: despite five sacks and the opener against Tennessee, he actually 490 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: finished with more sacks and Chandler Jones. However, Chandler Jones 491 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 1: did end up with more quarterback hits and quarterback pressures. So, look, 492 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: it's a big loss out of you account for that loss? Well, 493 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 1: the easy answer is you don't. You just don't. There's 494 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,439 Speaker 1: just no way he's a Hall of Famer. He has 495 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: over one hundred career sacks. Just the specter of fifty 496 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: five alone demands attention from an opposing offensive coordinator and 497 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: now they're going to set their blocking schemes that week. 498 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: So okay, But when you look at, for example, what 499 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 1: a Dennis Gardeck did when he was fully healthy, Oh, 500 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: I don't know, replacing Chandler Jones in twenty twenty, when 501 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: Chan went down at the Jets game an empty MetLife stadium. 502 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 1: I remember it vividly, and everyone realizes, oh boy, there's 503 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 1: a bicept injury, and those typically will sideline a guy 504 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: for an entire year. That's exactly what happened. And the 505 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 1: Cardinals still finishing the top five in sack percentage and 506 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 1: sack production that season. So whether it's Guardek, whether it's 507 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: Devon Canard, whether it's one of the rookies, everyone's gonna 508 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 1: be watching Vance Joseph to figure out what does he 509 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: even mind? There are a number of options when you 510 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 1: ask that question, who is that edge rush or opposite 511 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,360 Speaker 1: Marcus Golden something. Devon Canard recently on The Big Red 512 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: Rage talked about I think it provides a lot of 513 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 1: opportunity for everybody in our room. And you know, Marcus 514 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: Golden obviously is gonna step up in a major way. 515 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 1: But we have me and Dennis Gardeck, we got three 516 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,959 Speaker 1: rookies that we dress drafted, and Victor de mckej from 517 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: last year. So you know, I'm confident in our room. 518 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: I think it's a good mix of young guys who 519 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: are hungry and some veterans who really know what they're doing, 520 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 1: and we're gonna get the job done. I feel like 521 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: it's going to be, you know, a really explosive room 522 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 1: and exciting room, and we're gonna be a big part 523 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: of why we win. Before we get into the three 524 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: draft picks, specific Lee, Cameron Thomas, and my J Sanders, 525 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 1: I think Cannard is an interesting discussion point because what 526 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: we've seen from him is he's really good at setting 527 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: the edge and making sure that those run plays don't 528 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 1: become giant run plays. But before arriving with the Arizona Cardinals, 529 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 1: with the Detroit Lions, he was a great pass rusher, 530 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: and he's been a good pass rusher in the National 531 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,880 Speaker 1: Football League. Might the chain be unleashed a little bit 532 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,239 Speaker 1: for a Devon Kanard this season. You know what, he 533 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: was semi offended on the Big Red Rage when I 534 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: asked him whether he was equipped to be a starter 535 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: this year, and he looked me in the he said, 536 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: I was a starter my entire career before I got 537 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 1: to the Arizona Cardinals. So the easy answer is yes, 538 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 1: Pauli Pensilnac, I'm definitely capable of starting. You could tell 539 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 1: just based on the manner in which he answered the question. 540 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 1: He's very much looking forward to reproving himself as a 541 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 1: starting caliber outside linebacker as an edge guy. Now, whether 542 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: he's going to get to the quarterback, we'll see, it's 543 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: not always about getting the quarterback down. Do you affect 544 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: the play? Charlie Bowling talked about that in a recent 545 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: Big Red Rage, the outside linebackers coach, and it was 546 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: interesting because he brought it up in context of Dennis 547 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: Gardek who last year was shut out right, didn't have 548 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: a single sex. Okay, and obviously he's coming off the 549 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 1: ACL he suffered in Week fifteen in that Philly game 550 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: a season earlier, and Dennis Gardeck has said this offseason 551 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,399 Speaker 1: he thought he was one hundred percent. Now he realizes 552 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 1: that he wasn't one hundred percent, etc. A bot. Charlie 553 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 1: Bolling said the reason they gave him three years twelve 554 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 1: million dollars this offseason was because when they watched the film, 555 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,199 Speaker 1: he was affecting the play and he was opening the 556 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,719 Speaker 1: way for other guys to get to the quarterback. So 557 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 1: that is something they need out of Devon Knard, Dennis Gardak, 558 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: whoever is going to be opposite Marcus Golden. And that's 559 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: gonna be sometimes a little bit hard to see in 560 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: real time because when we look at when the stats 561 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: are passed out at the end of the game, how 562 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 1: many sacks did a player get? And that was the 563 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: big knock on Chandler Jones didn't get enough sex But 564 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: how many times would is he almost there? Or maybe 565 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: he was just affecting the quarterback enough get him off 566 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: his spot, hurry the throw so someone down field could 567 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: either get a pass deflection or maybe an interception. I 568 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 1: think was Zach Allen who said recently, Chandler Jones was 569 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: the guy who made the ball come out quick. He say, 570 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: you know, and that's one way when you're watching the film. Okay, 571 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,479 Speaker 1: was there a sack was there an official quarterback pressure, 572 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: Was there a quarterback hit or did the quarterback just 573 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 1: feel the urgency and they need to get rid of 574 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: the ball quickly. And that's my big fear, Craig, because 575 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: if the Cardinals can't get to the quarterback. We all 576 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: know the two priorities in the NFL right now. One 577 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: you better have a quarterback. Two you better be able 578 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: to get to the quarterback. Because if you give the 579 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: opposing quarterback an extra second or two to find an 580 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 1: open receiver, and that means your DBS or having a 581 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: cover for an extra second or two, that's sort of 582 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: a kin in baseball to giving the opponent an extra 583 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 1: out having a bad defense, right you give them more 584 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: chances like that, that usually does not bode well for 585 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: your team. Cardinals did not address edge rusher in free agency. 586 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: They Chandler Jones go, but in the draft they did, 587 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 1: adding three players, two in the third round Cameron Thomas 588 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: and my j Sanders defensive quarter at advanced Joseph On 589 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:13,239 Speaker 1: his two new pass rushers. You can't replace Channel Johnson. Mean, 590 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: he's a Hall of Fame rusher, you know, so you 591 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: can't replace that production. But as a group we can 592 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: you know, I think Monte is going to be fine. 593 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 1: Cam's a big, strong, physical rusher. They're young, but they 594 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: can rush, and you know, rushing is obviously a learned behavior, 595 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: but its start suitability, you know, and they both have 596 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: the debilities who rush. So hopefully those guys can help us, 597 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,959 Speaker 1: and we can obviously scheme some things up to help 598 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: us also. But end today, you know, we gotta rush 599 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 1: four and win one on one. So Sky should help 600 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: us win. Thomas six four two sixty seven, Sanders six 601 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 1: five two forty eight. Maybe we'll be even a little 602 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 1: bit bigger when you get closer to the regular season. 603 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: So yeah, you have options, but you also have vance 604 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: Joseph and scheming it up. But how many times can 605 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: you go to that well during the regular season, because 606 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: as coach just mentioned, you got to be able to 607 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: win your one on one matchups. It can't just be 608 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 1: on the scheme and you can't be a liability in 609 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 1: the run game if you're one of those two third 610 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: round rookies. Here's the thing. If there's a position group, 611 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: I'd say there's three position groups where rookies can be 612 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: plug and play running back, an outside cornerback where you 613 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: just say you know what, you're just to have man 614 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: coverage against that receiver, Go get them, and I would 615 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: say edge rush or in an obvious passing situation. So 616 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: if am J. Sanders or a Cameron Thomas is deemed 617 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: ready and equipped by advanced Joseph, I figured you could 618 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 1: see them as an option. And here's the thing and 619 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: A Q Shipley talked a little bit about this is 620 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 1: if you get a variety of different pass rushers, different 621 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 1: body types, different skill sets going against that same tackle, 622 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 1: that makes it pretty darned difficult for a tackle. So 623 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 1: maybe there's something to that this year where that opposing 624 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: tackle will get a variety of a Devon Canard, a 625 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: Dennis Gardeck who's more like a pit bull at six 626 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: feet my J. Sanders's almost six foot five, a long, 627 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: lean order Chandler Jones type, a Cameron Thomas at six 628 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: four two seventy more of a power guy like a 629 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: JJ Watt. You're changing the look constantly for the tackle. 630 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 1: Maybe the Cardinals can get some production that way. Maybe 631 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: Victor D. Mukage is another name to mention, did not 632 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 1: play a lot of defense, but he was active on 633 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: game day. He was part of that special team's core. 634 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: And for a young draft pick, if you're Thomas and Sanders, 635 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 1: in order to be available on defense, you might have 636 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 1: to show up on special teams in order to dress. 637 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: And you know what you need on the special teams 638 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: is that motor, right, And that's one thing all those 639 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: guys you just named are known for, whether it's Steve Kime, 640 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 1: whether it's their position coaches Cameron Thomas, I asked him 641 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 1: for one word to describe his game. He said, relentless. 642 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 1: And when Kyle Vannibosch was in recently and we were 643 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: talking to him just about Okay, as a great pass 644 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: rusher of your time and a three time Pro bowler, 645 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 1: you know how far could a motor go? He said absolutely. 646 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 1: I predicated my whole career. I'm just never giving up 647 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: on the play. Now. He's humble, he's a big guy 648 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 1: with a lot of athleticism. But if you have that 649 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: relentless pass rushing attitude, it is amazing o productive you 650 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 1: can be. And I firmly believe that's one of the 651 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 1: big reasons those guys are Arizona Cardinals, because then they 652 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: watch the film it whether it was my j Sanders, 653 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: camera Thomas a Victor de mckage. They were relentless. Well, 654 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 1: it's one reason they've got the biggest effort guy in 655 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 1: that room in Marcus Golder. He was one of the 656 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: not the one of the originals, but it's it's the 657 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 1: effort that he gives even on the practice field that 658 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 1: maybe and all of a sudden, you got these younger 659 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: players to look and say, all right, yes it can work. 660 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 1: Maybe you don't have that skill set or that toolbox 661 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: worth of moves like a Chandler Jones, but the effort. 662 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 1: You don't get him in the first quarter, but when 663 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: the game matters, fourth quarter, two minutes to go, you're 664 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: getting to the quarterback and at the same time advanced. 665 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: Joseph said this to the media is one and only 666 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 1: media session with the media in the offseason. There are 667 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: times in the game where you gotta rush for and 668 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 1: still beat your man. It can't always be bringing numbers, 669 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: bringing exotic schemes, bringing something advanced and crazy that I's 670 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 1: gonna try. You can't always try and fool an offensive 671 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,319 Speaker 1: line in the past protection. Sometimes you gotta go out 672 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 1: and just flat beat your man. So we'll find out 673 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: early in camp, what do these guys look like when 674 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: they're going in the one on one offensive lineman defensive 675 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 1: lineman drills. How doesn't my J. Sanders stack up against 676 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 1: a DJ Humphreys because DJ mpres has been used to 677 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 1: going against Chandler Jones Monoemano at Cardinals camp for the 678 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,479 Speaker 1: last five years. All Right, can my J. Sanders hold 679 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 1: his own? And if Thomas San Sanders get on the field, 680 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 1: then they will help if you get into third and 681 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,399 Speaker 1: long situations to where to your point, Hey, one thing 682 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 1: to do. Beat your man, get to the quarterback, get 683 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 1: into the backfield. But you gotta be able to win 684 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 1: on first and second down in order to set that 685 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,919 Speaker 1: up on third Downum. Once again, I firmly believe it's 686 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: been proven over time that's something a rookie can do. 687 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 1: Running backs, cornerbacks and edge rushers. Well, if you want 688 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 1: to see Cameron Thomas and my J. Sanders in action 689 00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 1: this season, Arizona Cardinals single game tickets available a visit 690 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,359 Speaker 1: easy Cardinals dot com slash tickets for more information. It 691 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: is the Cardinals Red Sea Report presented by Seek Get 692 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 1: your seats and a seats here on the Arizona Cardinals 693 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: Right Doo Network trips Right single receiver left shotgun staff 694 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 1: to McCoy, hands off Benjamin off the left side of 695 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 1: the fiftieth. He trucks a dB and walks in the 696 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:30,839 Speaker 1: end zone. Is first touched out. Eno Benjamin just ran 697 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 1: over former Cardinal Drake Kirkpatrick and maybe put this one 698 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,280 Speaker 1: out of reach. Thirty to seven midway through the third, 699 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 1: Eno Benjamin's a little filthy man for the first one 700 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 1: to two. First first Sachtown, I was awesome, incredible to seats. 701 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,319 Speaker 1: You see no hesitation, you know for the contact, and 702 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 1: you know he picked his legs a running out of it. 703 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 1: So a special back, no question. A highlights of Eno 704 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 1: Benjamin's brief early but I highlight overall of the Cardinals 705 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:07,840 Speaker 1: twenty one regular season. Eno Benjamin with his first rushing 706 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,839 Speaker 1: touchdown against the San Francisco forty nine ers. Here James 707 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 1: Conner talk about it and something that the visual of 708 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 1: Eno Benjamin lowering this pad level as Wolfley likes to say, 709 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 1: and Dray Kirkpatrick going backwards three or four yards. Who 710 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 1: was it was down? Goes Drake Kirkpatrick, the former cardinal, 711 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,800 Speaker 1: And I cannot tell you how the Cardinal's sideline reacted. 712 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 1: Everybody vaulted off the bench, the defensive guys getting a gatorade. 713 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: Everyone went bananas. You could hear the crack of the pads, 714 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,839 Speaker 1: sort of like when somebody hits a Titanic home run. 715 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,759 Speaker 1: You can hear the crack of the bat. You could 716 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 1: hear him just plowing straight through Drake Kirkpatrick. And there's 717 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 1: nothing that will fire up a sideline more than running 718 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 1: back just laying the lumber. And that's exactly what Eno did. 719 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 1: He has put in the work, he has put in 720 00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:00,759 Speaker 1: the time talking about Eno, Benjamin obviously Cardinal's familiar with 721 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 1: him just down the street at Arizona States. But making 722 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,840 Speaker 1: a name for himself within that running back room. And 723 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 1: you look at the depth and the numbers in the 724 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 1: running back room, we know it's James Connor. But then 725 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 1: number two, do you want another James Connor talking about 726 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 1: Darryl Williams Or do you want that Chase Edmonds type 727 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 1: who has the ability to run and also catch out 728 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 1: of the backfield? Right, So do you see Chase Edmonds? 729 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,880 Speaker 1: And you know, Benjamin, I'll be honest with the wolf, 730 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 1: and I have debated this for almost three years now. 731 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,880 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily see a ton of Chase Edmonds, And 732 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 1: you know, Benjamin little bit Wolf is adamant that the 733 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,400 Speaker 1: moment he saw you know, Benjamin, he thought of Chase Edmonds. 734 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,799 Speaker 1: And I think it's an astute observation to bring up 735 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 1: the question itself, because could that be his role? Could 736 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 1: he be that third down back? Could he be the 737 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,840 Speaker 1: back who was almost guaranteed of making the first guy miss, 738 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: which Chase Edmonds was so good at right, Put him 739 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 1: out on a linebacker and it's an automatic mismatch just 740 00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:02,360 Speaker 1: based on the athleticism alone. I hope that's where it's trending, 741 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 1: and I hope that's what Eno Benjamin gives the Cardinals 742 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 1: this year. But I'm not so confident that's exactly the 743 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 1: cop I would use. Forno. What about you? Is he 744 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 1: talking about? You know, Benjamin? Is he as elusive as 745 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,959 Speaker 1: a runner as Chase Edmonds? I don't think we've seen 746 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,919 Speaker 1: it as of yet. Can he be that guy who 747 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 1: makes a defender miss in open space? That I think 748 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,319 Speaker 1: he has to prove himself. What he has proven is 749 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,720 Speaker 1: his pass catching ability and his pass protection, the latter 750 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 1: more so opening up eyes for coaches because you need 751 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 1: that protector, especially if you're in on third down, and 752 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 1: the question is how much will we see him this year? 753 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 1: Has he earned the trust of a Cliff Kingsbury who 754 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 1: unprompted has brought up Eno Benjamin's name two, three, four times. 755 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,239 Speaker 1: You might need two hands at this point to count 756 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 1: all the times that Cliff Kingsbury has name dropped Eno 757 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 1: Benjamin with the media, to the point where I've actually 758 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 1: had a conspiracy theory that wait a minute, do they 759 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 1: have too many running backs? And are they trying to 760 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 1: move an Eno Benjamin off? A team suffers an injury 761 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 1: in training camp, but they're trying to pump up an 762 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,279 Speaker 1: Edo Benjamin because he's in the last year of his deal. 763 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,880 Speaker 1: Maybe get something in return. Now, since I came with 764 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,400 Speaker 1: that maybe irresponsible conspiracy theory, I've come to learn the 765 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 1: know the coaches do think it is legit. He's about 766 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,319 Speaker 1: as improved as anyone on this roster. Well, it's not 767 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:22,760 Speaker 1: that the coaches. His teammates offensive players. Justin Pugh recently 768 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 1: on the Day Pass podcast praising once again unprompted Eno Benjamin. 769 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 1: I think James kind of keeps that that same role. 770 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,319 Speaker 1: We'll go out there be short yardage. I mean, he 771 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,400 Speaker 1: was getting out in the passing game, doing screens, doing 772 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 1: all those things. He was unbelievable. I think a guy 773 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 1: to look for. As you know, Benjamin, he looked great 774 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 1: in mini camps so far. He's probably been our best 775 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 1: outside zone running back that we've had on the roster, 776 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 1: even last year, and he had to learn how to 777 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,279 Speaker 1: pass protect and that was really the only thing. You 778 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 1: can't trust the guy to be in the game if 779 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 1: you can't trust him to pick up pass protection. And 780 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 1: he's gone night and day from last year to this year. 781 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 1: So I think he's going to have a big jump again. 782 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,359 Speaker 1: It's one thing for the head coach, a position coach 783 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 1: to bring up a player unprompted. Different when it's a teammate. 784 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,839 Speaker 1: It's one of your own in that locker room. Now, 785 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 1: how much can you learn? How much of a jump 786 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 1: can you make when you're practicing in shorts and helmets 787 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 1: the pads on. Yet you're just going on fifty percent 788 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,759 Speaker 1: or less as far as your speed. But maybe we 789 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,880 Speaker 1: do have someone in eno Benjamin that has taken that 790 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 1: next step and raising his hand and say hey, don't 791 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,480 Speaker 1: forget about me. And there's a reason why a lot 792 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 1: of his teammates sighting not only is a very likable 793 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:37,399 Speaker 1: guy and fans love him the ASU lineage, but he's 794 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,920 Speaker 1: been running scout team running back for a couple of years. 795 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 1: He's made a lot of Cardinals defenders look bad in practice. 796 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,279 Speaker 1: He's that guy in practice, that's his game, and he 797 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 1: comes out and he brings it when he gets his 798 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,839 Speaker 1: one and only big full pad practice of the week. 799 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 1: And so when he goes out into a game and 800 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:58,040 Speaker 1: he excels, the sideline reacts. His teammates react because they've 801 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 1: seen it firsthand. And here's a guy finally getting his chance, 802 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,879 Speaker 1: and then he's being productive in a game situation. So 803 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 1: there's nothing more that a locker room loves about a 804 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,920 Speaker 1: guy who earned it. And so far Eno has And 805 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,800 Speaker 1: he talked about being patient. Maybe things that haven't happened 806 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,760 Speaker 1: as quickly as he had hoped after he was drafted 807 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 1: in the seventh round, but he is stuck with it, 808 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,760 Speaker 1: figured out what he needed to get better at, worked 809 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,520 Speaker 1: on it, and now all of a sudden, we're talking 810 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:25,200 Speaker 1: about him potentially being that number two running back, being 811 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,400 Speaker 1: that Chase Edmonds equivalent as far as running between the 812 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,120 Speaker 1: tackles and also catching the ball out of the backfield. 813 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 1: And you look now as far as Kingsbury's on record 814 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,040 Speaker 1: saying he thinks they're going to keep four running backs, Paul, 815 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 1: but right now, don't forget about Jonathan Ward, special teams guy, 816 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:43,840 Speaker 1: and then your sixth round draft pick this year in 817 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 1: Keyanta Ingram. And they're high on Kyanta Ingram. They love 818 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,719 Speaker 1: everything they've seen about him. He has the size, he 819 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 1: has the pedigree. Could you get him to the practice 820 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 1: squad if he's the odd man out? He was the 821 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,360 Speaker 1: nineteenth running back drafted, and we know it's not exactly 822 00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 1: the most valued position group in the NFL these days. 823 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,920 Speaker 1: Maybe you get away with sending Ingram to the practice squad. 824 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,799 Speaker 1: But all these guys not named James Connor and Darryl 825 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,120 Speaker 1: Williams are going to get plenty of snaps and plenty 826 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,799 Speaker 1: of carries in the preseason. There's no doubt in my 827 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:12,920 Speaker 1: mind that by the end of August, the Cardinals will know. 828 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,000 Speaker 1: The Cardinals will know, okay, who deserves a spot on 829 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 1: the fifty three and who does not. While and we've 830 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:21,360 Speaker 1: even seen Jonathan Ward a limited amount of offense, and 831 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,960 Speaker 1: he's performed when his name has been called upon. We 832 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 1: go back talking about special teams. The only reason we're 833 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,400 Speaker 1: talking about Jonathan Ward on offense is because he's active 834 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,719 Speaker 1: on game day and he has the trust of Jeff 835 00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,839 Speaker 1: Rogers saying no, he needs to be up in order 836 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 1: for us to do what we need to do on 837 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 1: special teams. And then if there's an issue finding another 838 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 1: ball carrier, now you've got him. Hey, if this was 839 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 1: the same numbers game a year ago, there's no doubt 840 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,279 Speaker 1: in my mind Eno Benjamin would be cut. But what 841 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,839 Speaker 1: he's done over the last year to earn Cliff Kingsbury's 842 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,239 Speaker 1: trust to maybe even get out of Cliff Kingsbury's doghouse. 843 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,399 Speaker 1: If he will to improve his pass protection, you've got 844 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,560 Speaker 1: to be able to trust that running back and pass protection, 845 00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,399 Speaker 1: you can't risk getting your friends quarterback heard. And he's 846 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,440 Speaker 1: got to know the playbook. Those are the two areas 847 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 1: he has improved and earned the trust of his head coach, 848 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,319 Speaker 1: and worked on special teams as well. We've seen him 849 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,799 Speaker 1: on coverage units and return units as well, maybe even 850 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:15,359 Speaker 1: as a kick returner. That's a potential for Innovenumer coming 851 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,799 Speaker 1: up this season. Again, a lot of questions here as 852 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,920 Speaker 1: we talk at the end of June. Questions that won't 853 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:25,560 Speaker 1: become answered until August, maybe not even until September. Special 854 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,520 Speaker 1: thanks to those behind the scenes here Senior broadcast Manager 855 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:32,680 Speaker 1: and producer Jim Amandro, Technical Director Zach Larson, Paul Calvc, 856 00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,040 Speaker 1: I'm Craig Rieo Louis will talk to you in one 857 00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:38,239 Speaker 1: week's time. 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