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Speaker 1: This is what happens when the fourth Turning meets fifth

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Speaker 1: generation warfare.

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Speaker 2: A commentator, international social media sensation and former Navy intelligence veteran.

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Speaker 3: This is Human Events with your host Jack Pasovic christ

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Speaker 3: Is King morning.

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Speaker 4: The US military has launched what appears to be a

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Speaker 4: sixth airstrike on a suspected drug boat in the Caribbean,

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Speaker 4: and unlike previous attacks we've seen, this time, an official

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Speaker 4: No word overnight how many people may have been killed.

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Speaker 4: But meanwhile, tensions in the region are escalating. President Trump

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Speaker 4: has authorized CIA operations in Venezuela and is considering ground strikes.

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Speaker 5: This morning, President Trump's former national security advisor, John Boulton

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Speaker 5: is speaking out after being charged with eighteen counts of

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Speaker 3: I think he's a bad person.

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Speaker 6: I think he's a bad guy.

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Speaker 5: Bulten is accused of sharing more than one thousand pages

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Speaker 5: of information about government activities. The indictment claims he used

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Speaker 8: On Thursday, US Immigration and Customs Enforcement announced the arrest

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Speaker 8: of Radula Badovich, who they say is an immigrant from

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Speaker 8: Hanover Park Police department. According to the Department of Homeland Security,

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Speaker 8: Badjovich has been with a police department since January and

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Speaker 2: Just announced a second summit with Russian President Vladimir Putin

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Speaker 9: President Trump will host Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelenski at the

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Speaker 1: Ladies, John and welcome on board today's edition of Human

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Speaker 1: Events Daily. We are here live in Washington, DC, and folks,

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Speaker 1: you go and look at everything that's happening today. You

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Speaker 1: look at everything that's happening in our country, and we

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Speaker 1: do have to take a step back. Patriots are winning

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Speaker 1: Today is October twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: And.

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Speaker 3: The patriots surge is on whether you look at what's.

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Speaker 1: Happening in the legal field, on the legal front with

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Speaker 1: all of this comes together to show very clearly patriots

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Speaker 1: are on the offense. And it wasn't always like this.

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Speaker 1: In fact, it hasn't been like this for some time. Typically,

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Speaker 1: what you'll do is you'll see Republicans responding to evidence.

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Speaker 1: You'll see Republicans responding to narratives, stories, all sorts of stuff.

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Speaker 1: But instead they won't actually be fighting back. They won't

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Speaker 3: But now it's time.

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Speaker 1: Now it's one hundred percent time, because here's the situation, folks.

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Speaker 1: He said, London is becoming Islamic. Something has changed and

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Speaker 1: Now it's time for everyone to understand what America First

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Speaker 1: truly means. Welcome to the Second American Revolution. All right,

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Speaker 1: very honored to have on the program. Senate up Marsha Blackburn, Senator,

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Speaker 6: Delighted to join you. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Well, and Senator I appreciate you coming on, and I

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Speaker 6: Yes, and I saw you from a distance at the

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Speaker 3: Well, I appreciate that as well, And that's right. There

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Speaker 6: Well, you're so right about that. And it was an

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Speaker 3: I think it's exactly right.

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Speaker 6: What we know is this that the FBI under Joe

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Speaker 1: Marshall Blackburn, We're back on with you. We were talking

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Speaker 6: Yes, indeed, and when Cash Battel came before our Judiciary

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Speaker 6: It was the most dangerous city per capita in this

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Speaker 6: how to do this, to go in to search these resources.

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Speaker 6: He has cleaned up Washington.

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Speaker 6: And he is doing it in Memphis. And the mayor

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Speaker 3: Well, I couldn't agree with you more.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's one of America's most quintessentially American towns,

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Speaker 1: As As governor, you know, you're still you're still about

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Speaker 6: Oh? Absolutely. And when you look at the fact that

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Speaker 1: Reset Senator Marshall Blackburrin, she's running for Tennessee governor.

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Speaker 3: Senator, thank you so much for joining us here Human

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Speaker 11: Where's Jack?

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Speaker 3: Where's Jack? Where is he? Jack?

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Speaker 6: I want to see you.

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Speaker 7: Great job, Jack, Thank you, what a job you do.

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Speaker 7: You know, we have an incredible thing. We're always talking about.

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Speaker 7: Good to be with you, Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 1: Well, you have done some fantastic investigative work on the

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Speaker 1: story of what happened to my good friend, your friend,

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Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk. You actually went to Utah Valley University campus

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Speaker 1: and you did a lot of gum shoe on the

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Speaker 1: ground reporting there in Utah of what happened to Charlie.

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Speaker 1: You took a lot of the you know, a lot

445
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Speaker 1: of the different theories and alternate theories out there, and

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Speaker 1: you really put them to the test. And I think

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Speaker 1: you did a fantastic video that I want everyone to

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Speaker 1: go watch. And before we get into it, I've got

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Speaker 1: a clip of it that I want to play for everyone.

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Speaker 3: Right now.

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Speaker 11: I'm here at the spot where Tyler Robinson jumps off

452
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Speaker 11: the roof. I'm here with Gray Hughes investigates and he's

453
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Speaker 11: got this camera that is on a big telescope rod.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's extensive.

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Speaker 11: And when you put it up there, what did you see?

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Speaker 10: Well, when you put it up right where he came down,

457
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Speaker 10: there's actually four fingerprints that drag off, and then another

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Speaker 10: spot where it maybe there's a towel or something like

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Speaker 10: what you know, I don't know what else is that.

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Speaker 10: Maybe his foot was still up there, and then another

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Speaker 10: mark as well.

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Speaker 3: So there's three marks in the really thick dust.

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Speaker 10: And it's still there, still there, Okay, I don't know

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Speaker 10: the reason why they would actually get rid of it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's not gonna wipe it away, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's strange.

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Speaker 11: That is strange.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: And then I've got Gary right here from Paramount Tactical.

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Speaker 11: He's just showing his audience the video where they say

471
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Speaker 11: it's an AI person. I said, it's not AI. The

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Speaker 11: path drops off over the right exactly.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So Steven, you you're out there, you're you're looking into

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Speaker 1: all this.

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Speaker 3: These marks on the roof are what are they consistent with?

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Speaker 1: Tell us exactly how you think that fits into the

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Speaker 1: context of what we know and what we've been told

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Speaker 1: about Charlie's murder.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely, So I've been very skeptical with everything that's happened

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Speaker 7: with the FBI. So I'm just trying to use my

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Speaker 7: own brain, my own journalism skills to go and look

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Speaker 7: for cameras, look for evidence clues to try to back

484
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Speaker 7: up the narrative that we're being told, but also to

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Speaker 7: make sure that I can hold them accountable with truth.

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Speaker 7: What it looks like is everyone's seen the famous FBI

487
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Speaker 7: footage where Tyler Robinson is running across the low C

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Speaker 7: building towards the north and then he gets down on

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Speaker 7: his legs and he's kind of holding onto the roof,

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Speaker 7: and then he jumps off and then he heads off

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Speaker 7: into the wooded area. Well, while I was there looking

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Speaker 7: at how to get on the roof the time it

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Speaker 7: would take, what cameras would have captured stuff, I was

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Speaker 7: speaking with another investigative journalist, and what you see is

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Speaker 7: when he gets down and he's getting ready to jump

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Speaker 7: off the building, you can see scrapes in the dust

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Speaker 7: that are about thirty six to forty inches long, which

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Speaker 7: is about the length of the barrel of a thirty

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Speaker 7: six rifle. You also see a handprint where he's trying

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Speaker 7: to let himself down gradually, and then he ends up

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Speaker 7: jumping off and running into that wooded area. So although

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Speaker 7: I want to trust the FBI and I believe in

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Speaker 7: cash Ptel, you know, the American people were skeptical with

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Speaker 7: you know, government lies and cover up. I mean, look

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Speaker 7: at January sixth, It took almost five years to find

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Speaker 7: out that there was over two hundred and seventy FBI

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Speaker 7: agents in plain clothes in the crowd. So I'm just

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Speaker 7: trying to get to the bottom of this. I want

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Speaker 7: to make sure that if Tyler Robinson is in fact

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Speaker 7: the person that jumped off that roof, that this handprint

511
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Speaker 7: that they say they have, the screwdriver, the gun, the bullet,

512
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Speaker 7: all of that matches up. Because Charlie deserves justice and

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Speaker 7: the American people deserve the truth well.

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Speaker 1: And so so I want to I want to make

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Speaker 1: sure that we're that we're tying this together. So that

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Speaker 1: handprint that is on that roof, does that line up

517
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Speaker 1: that that you guys uncovered with that was that that's

518
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Speaker 1: that that he's using, that that stick camera?

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Speaker 3: Does that line up.

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Speaker 1: With the video from where we see the individual that

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Speaker 1: they've identified as Tyler Robinson.

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Speaker 7: Yes, and we know that for two reasons. The first

523
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Speaker 7: time I went out, two weeks after Charlie had passed,

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Speaker 7: the FBI actually had a yellow measuring tape that was

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Speaker 7: taped to the cement wall of the low C building

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Speaker 7: U and I believe that they were measuring the hand

527
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Speaker 7: to the last bit of that. You can also tell

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Speaker 7: there's a split in the window pane just below this

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Speaker 7: frame when you see him jump off, uh, and you

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Speaker 7: can see that it lines up exactly with where he

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Speaker 7: comes off the building. The other thing you'll notice, Jack

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Speaker 7: is see that dust. There's no other markings on there.

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Speaker 7: The only place that there were markings up and down

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Speaker 7: all of that guttering system is right where Tyler Robinson

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Speaker 7: jumped off. So when I saw this, I was like, Wow, Okay,

536
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Speaker 7: that is a huge piece of evidence. And we were

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Speaker 7: told in the paperwork that was submitted for the legal

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Speaker 7: briefing that they have a palm print, that they have

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Speaker 7: fingerprints on a screwdriver, they're going to have the gun.

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Speaker 7: So then what I started doing. I started working with

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Speaker 7: forensic experts to understand ballistics, to understand how they would

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Speaker 7: use X rays to follow the path of the bullet

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Speaker 7: through Charlie's body, where the bullet was found, how they

544
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Speaker 7: found the fragments. I'm not an expert in all of this,

545
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Speaker 7: but I'm really good at asking questions and I wanted

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Speaker 7: to bring that truth to my audience.

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Speaker 9: Ye.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think this is important too, because look, you know,

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Speaker 1: I want to make sure they got the right guy.

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Speaker 1: And if they got the right guy, I want to

551
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Speaker 1: make sure that this trial goes forward and everything's done

552
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Speaker 1: by the book and everything's done properly. And you know,

553
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Speaker 1: I've been hosting this show as well as others with

554
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Speaker 1: in fact, people like my friend Blake Nef who was

555
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Speaker 1: standing just a few feet away from where Charlie was sitting,

556
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Speaker 1: so in the line of fire of this individual right

557
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Speaker 1: where you were, you know, obviously underneath that roof. And

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Speaker 1: you know, this all has to be done by the book,

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Speaker 1: and that's something that we absolutely all want. Now, there

560
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Speaker 1: was another piece of information that you mentioned in your

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Speaker 1: video that was the sound rings that you were digging into.

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Speaker 1: What was the sound rings?

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Speaker 7: I found another YouTuber who does sound and noise analysis.

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Speaker 3: I can't remember his last name.

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Speaker 7: I believe his first name is Map, but basically what

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Speaker 7: he did is he took different people's cell phones and

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Speaker 7: the noise, and he was able to create a map

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Speaker 7: and then the map when you start running it through

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Speaker 7: AI and different software, it'll start, it'll start using mathematical

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Speaker 7: formulas to pinpoint where the noise came from. And there's

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Speaker 7: there were three big rings that went out and wouldn't

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Speaker 7: you know it? All three The only time that they

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Speaker 7: cross over is right on the Loci building where we

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Speaker 7: know somebody was laying in a prone position with a

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Speaker 7: rifle and took a shot. Now, from everything that I

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Speaker 7: have seen, it looks like it's it looks like it's

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Speaker 7: the story that the FBI is telling us. So the

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Speaker 7: sound is matching up the direction of the bullet. Sadly,

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Speaker 7: Charlie Kirk takes a tremendous amount of energy from the front.

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Speaker 7: That bullet destroys his neck gets lodged in his t

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Speaker 7: one thoracic vertebrae. But you start lining that up now.

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Speaker 7: A couple of big things that were pointed out to

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Speaker 7: me and I started to pick up on this, and

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Speaker 7: it was nice to have a forensic expert confirm this.

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Speaker 7: But he said to me, next to the gun and

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Speaker 7: the bullet, the most important piece of evidence against Tyler

587
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Speaker 7: Robinson will be his cell phone data. Cell Phones are

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Speaker 7: able to track you to within a couple of inches

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Speaker 7: of where you are, and we learned this.

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Speaker 1: We learned this from January sixth, that was the Geo Fencing. Yes,

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Speaker 1: we're coming up on a quick break, Steven, give me

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Speaker 1: one second because I want to dig into this as well,

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Speaker 1: the cell phone forensic data, sound analysis, bullet analysis, and

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Speaker 1: the fingerprints actually finding the fingerprints and handprints.

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Speaker 3: The marks on below ze building.

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Speaker 1: Right back, Jack Pasovic, Real Marker's Voice, Human Events Daily.

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Speaker 3: Jack is a great guy.

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Speaker 1: He's written a fantastic look and everybody's.

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Speaker 6: Talking about it.

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Speaker 7: Go get it.

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Speaker 2: Catty spent my friend right from the beginning of this

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Speaker 2: whole Beau and bub event, and we're going to turn

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Speaker 2: her around and make our gunyquay to get.

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Speaker 7: Him a man.

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Speaker 1: All right, Jack, pH Zilpa, We're back here. Human Events Daily,

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Speaker 1: Real America's Voice. We're talking to Stephen Gardner, the host

607
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Speaker 1: of The Stephen Gardner Show. He went back to Utah

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Speaker 1: Valley University, the scene of the crime, and we're walking

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Speaker 1: through the evidence, in some cases corroborating the evidence that

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Speaker 1: we've heard regarding the theory and even alternate theories about

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Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk's murder. Stephen Gardner went back to the scene

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Speaker 1: multiple times to track it all down, and the so

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Speaker 1: talked about the gun, talked about the bullet, talked about

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Speaker 1: the palm print and hand prints that were found on

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Speaker 1: that roof of the LOC building, which are consistent actually

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Speaker 1: in the same spot with the video that we're shown,

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Speaker 1: this grainy video that we're shown of an individual jumping off.

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Speaker 1: Stephen where we left off before the break. You were

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Speaker 1: telling us though about the cell phone tracking, that forensic

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Speaker 1: cell phone tracking geofencing data. We know the same exact

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Speaker 1: method of tracking individuals was used in January sixth. They

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Speaker 1: were tracking did someone go on to the steps, did

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Speaker 1: they go in, were they on the lawn? Where were

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Speaker 1: they exactly? And we know that investigators using cell phone

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Speaker 1: data can do this. What did you find regarding that

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Speaker 1: data in this case?

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Speaker 7: So we're going to know with great clarity whether Tyler

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Speaker 7: Robinson was in the Oram area, whether the text messages

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Speaker 7: that many of us have questions about whether those were

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Speaker 7: sent from Orum to Lance Twig, was Lance Twig in

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Speaker 7: southern Utah or was he also in Orum? All of

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Speaker 7: that is going to come out. But the main thing

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Speaker 7: is people are saying, Okay, how would he have known

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Speaker 7: based on this weird terrain, not being a student at

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Speaker 7: this school, how would he have known this? Because I

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Speaker 7: don't believe you could have planned this murder from Google Maps.

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Speaker 7: So they're going to know based on his cell phone pathway,

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Speaker 7: whether he went on the day before. A couple of

639
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Speaker 7: weeks before, they'll be able to track all of that. Now.

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Speaker 7: I was told from forensic expert, a forensic expert, Joseph Scott,

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Speaker 7: that they're going to be able to track him from

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Speaker 7: eight hundred Street down through the tunnel, up around the

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Speaker 7: Loci building, up the stairs onto the roof, from the

644
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Speaker 7: roof out to the roofline, take the shot, jump off

645
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Speaker 7: the Loci building, run into the woods. And then I

646
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Speaker 7: started seeing all of these conspiracy videos that they were

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Speaker 7: able to find him on a little cafe's security system.

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Speaker 7: You can barely see his car, but you can see it,

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Speaker 7: and you had all these conspiracy people saying, how does

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Speaker 7: a guy kill Charlie Kirk And twenty minutes later he's

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Speaker 7: in his car in a parking lot. That's not consistent

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Speaker 7: with what a murderer would do. Well, you don't know

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Speaker 7: how a murderer thinks, right, he might be sitting in

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Speaker 7: that car, amped up on adrenaline. But how did the

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Speaker 7: cafe owner know that he was caught on his security camera?

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Speaker 7: Because unless somebody breaks in, you don't just go review,

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Speaker 7: you know, twenty four hours worth of video footage. It's

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Speaker 7: because the FBI tracked him to that location the next

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Speaker 7: morning seven to fifteen am, Cedar City, Maverick gas station.

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Speaker 7: How do they know it's him? He swipes a credit

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Speaker 7: card and they follow his phone. They know when he

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Speaker 7: goes home, they know if he goes to visit Lance,

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Speaker 7: when he goes over to his parents. They've got all

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Speaker 7: of it, the phone calls, the texting, everything. So this

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Speaker 7: forensic expert, basically Joseph Scott Morgan, he shared with me

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Speaker 7: that next to the gun, the cell phone data is

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Speaker 7: going to be the thing that ties Tyler Robinson directly

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Speaker 7: to the person on that building. And right now there's

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Speaker 7: a lot of doubt. Oh, I don't know if I

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Speaker 7: can trust the FBI. Well, that geo tracking, that geofencing,

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Speaker 7: it's it's going to tell us where his phone was

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Speaker 7: at all times on that day.

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Speaker 1: Now there's another piece of this that you mentioned when

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Speaker 1: you were there, and it had to do with the

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Speaker 1: sort of the depth and the scope of the area

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Speaker 1: the amphitheater where the building is. You were saying that

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Speaker 1: you mentioned Google maps a second ago, and that's what

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Speaker 1: made me think of this. You said that where Charlie

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Speaker 1: was sitting was actually much deeper than you realized, and

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Speaker 1: the relative height from where Charlie was to the top

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Speaker 1: of the loc building was a bit higher. Walk us

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Speaker 1: through what you discovered.

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Speaker 7: So the video footage that you guys showed with me

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Speaker 7: and Gary from Paramount Tactical. Below us is the Hall

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Speaker 7: of Flags. That's where the first cell phone picked up

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Speaker 7: Tyler Robinson running off the roof. Then below that is

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Speaker 7: where Charlie Kirk was sitting in a pop up tenth right,

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Speaker 7: so that is an amphitheater that goes up. And then

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Speaker 7: the low Ce building where he shoots from is three

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Speaker 7: stories higher than that, so he's actually about four stories different,

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Speaker 7: maybe four and a half stories different, and so that

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Speaker 7: bullet is coming down at an angle. He's also off

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Speaker 7: to the side about ten degrees, so that that bullet

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Speaker 7: is coming in from from high to low and from

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Speaker 7: the side where it ends up crashing into his neck. So, yes,

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Speaker 7: right here you can see Gary. Right below us is

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Speaker 7: the Hall of Lags where somebody's cell phone catches Tyler

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Speaker 7: Robinson running off off the roof. So but until you

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Speaker 7: go to the actual campus, you don't really understand because

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Speaker 7: this particular campus from from an aerial point of view

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Speaker 7: on Google Maps, they have these like red square sidewalks

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Speaker 7: and they all seem like they're on the same level,

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Speaker 7: but some of them might be two stories up, some

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Speaker 7: of them might be two stories down. And so that

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Speaker 7: really threw me. The first time I went out, I

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Speaker 7: was like, okay, wait a minute, I've been covering this story.

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Speaker 7: I didn't really understand the elevation climb. I didn't understand

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Speaker 7: the uh, the topography of the campus. And so you know, sadly,

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Speaker 7: right right where he takes the shot is the very

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Speaker 7: best place to take a shot. You're up and away,

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Speaker 7: you've got a clear line of sight to Charlie Kirk,

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Speaker 7: you've got coverage by the cafeteria building in front of it,

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Speaker 7: and he takes the shot and then runs for his life.

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Speaker 7: But that that really threw me. The other thing, when

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Speaker 7: you start looking at the sound analysis. He's shooting down

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Speaker 7: into a bowl. That's why you're picking up echoes. So

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Speaker 7: some people that aren't as sophisticated in their forensic they say, oh,

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Speaker 7: there was probably two shots. Well, no, it's coming down

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Speaker 7: into this amphitheater bowl. It's picking up an echo. It's

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Speaker 7: also passing through the microphone system there. So when you

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Speaker 7: really clean up all of the audio, it's one shot,

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Speaker 7: then the supersonic boom and then boom it hits. And

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Speaker 7: they were able to show all of that.

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Speaker 1: So those rings are coming from the initial sound wave,

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Speaker 1: you know, the sound propagation. But then but then you

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Speaker 1: also have the secondary and tertiary waves that are hitting

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Speaker 1: off of those other buildings into the bowl of the amphitheater,

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Speaker 1: And you can even see it on this video that

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Speaker 1: you put together. From that angle, it's a very small,

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Speaker 1: very confined space. In fact, I remember going to when

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Speaker 1: I did my Butler investigation and visit it, and I've

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Speaker 1: been to Butler multiple times now and looked at the

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Speaker 1: site where President Trump had his assassination attempt, you realize

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Speaker 1: it's so much smaller than it just looks on camera.

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Speaker 1: It's so much smaller. I mean, you could you could

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Speaker 1: run the distance in just a couple of seconds. It's

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Speaker 1: a quick sprint would get you from one side to another.

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Speaker 1: And there's sometimes it's videos and Google map and satellites,

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Speaker 1: and I know that a lot of like you know,

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Speaker 1: investigators and researchers go off of that. But when you

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Speaker 1: physically go there for yourself, you just you see how

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Speaker 1: how those angles can play tricks on you. And it's

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Speaker 1: much smaller, by the way, I just wanted to throw

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Speaker 1: out before we run out of time here that what

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Speaker 1: you mentioned about the cell phone tracking data. That reminds

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Speaker 1: me a lot of the Brian Coburger case where and

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Speaker 1: he killed those sorority girls. But that was a key

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Speaker 1: piece of the evidence because they find his fingerprint on

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Speaker 1: the knife sheath, and then what do they have. They

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Speaker 1: have his cell phone data going back and forth, back

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Speaker 1: and forth past that house, casing it before he went in,

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Speaker 1: getting the pattern of life. Stephen, we are just about

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Speaker 1: out of time. Thank you so much for doing this.

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Speaker 1: I hope you continue to tell everyone where to go

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Speaker 1: to get your video and access to everything you're putting out.

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Speaker 7: If you look up Steven Gardner on YouTube, you will

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Speaker 7: see this face. And I appreciate the opportunity to come.

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Speaker 3: On Stephen Gardner on YouTube.

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Speaker 1: Yes you will see that face and if you can,

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Speaker 1: if you could stand it, if you can stand watching it,

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Speaker 1: you will be able to get some really incredible information.

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Speaker 1: God bless you man for doing this, and I appreciate

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Speaker 1: it a lot. As I know there's been so many,

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Speaker 1: so many questions about this and everything else leads and

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Speaker 1: gentleman is always you have my permission to lay shore