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Speaker 1: Hello, my loves, Welcome back to the Give Them a

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Speaker 1: La Podcast. It is yours truly, I have t t here.

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Speaker 1: Oh hey ever you would is that the good morning?

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Speaker 2: Hi?

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Speaker 1: How are you?

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Speaker 2: How are you?

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Speaker 1: Today's a struggle, but we're going to get through it.

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Speaker 1: And it's Friday.

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Speaker 2: It is Friday.

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Speaker 1: You invited me to a movie and dinner tonight if I.

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Speaker 2: Will not be attending.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean when you said the movie started at nine,

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Speaker 1: I was like, you.

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Speaker 2: Don't need to go to the movie. I just said,

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Speaker 2: if you wanted to.

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Speaker 1: Come to dinner, what movie are you guys going to?

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Speaker 2: The Marvels Captain America? Is that what it is? Yes? Yes?

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Speaker 1: Any good? Have we seen it?

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Speaker 2: Have not seen it?

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Speaker 3: John could have some takes, He says, no spoilers, But

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Speaker 3: I think the movie is good.

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Speaker 2: It's all right. It's nothing to go home about.

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Speaker 3: But I think they're finally steering in a direction storyline wise,

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Speaker 3: is set up the other movies coming up.

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Speaker 2: They finally put the train on the track.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just like how it was kind of back in

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Speaker 3: the old days they had the multiverse where they were

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Speaker 3: just kind of making movies to make movies and just

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Speaker 3: kind of place characters where they wanted to because they can,

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Speaker 3: and it seems like they're steering away from that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and now.

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Speaker 3: It just seems like every movie is going to have

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Speaker 3: meaning going forward.

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Speaker 1: And who is starring in this Captain America. No, I'm

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Speaker 1: not in the Marvel world, but the Marvel the Marvel

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Speaker 1: world like Star Wars and things like that, very very

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Speaker 1: passionate group of fans. And if there is an actor

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Speaker 1: actress placed in a role and the audience does not

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Speaker 1: like them for that role, it could be that, you know,

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Speaker 1: they it's just a person. No scandals, they're like Swifties.

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Speaker 1: They're like the Bravo universe. They will tear you down

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Speaker 1: and you will not You'll be unhireable.

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Speaker 4: Yes, wild Welcome to the Marvel.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Marvels. Jesus Christ. It's a hard word.

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Speaker 1: So I live a little bit under a rock, as

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Speaker 1: you guys know. But I was on my podcast page,

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Speaker 1: so my personal Instagram page Laala Kent is the Explore

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Speaker 1: page is. There's very little Bravo on the Explore page there.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know why. I don't know if it's

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Speaker 1: the algorithm. I don't know how technology works. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if it listens to me, but the podcast page

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Speaker 1: that give them Lalla pod page is and I rarely

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Speaker 1: get on to the Explore page, right, but I posted

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Speaker 1: something and it just like right after took me to

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Speaker 1: this Explore page and I was like, WHOA, A lot

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Speaker 1: of Bravo stuff happened in here and before I start.

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Speaker 1: I met with Chris Medina the other night. So you

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Speaker 1: guys are like my group of people, right, And for

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Speaker 1: some reason this past year it's been I haven't felt

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Speaker 1: like myself and I've tried to shake a lot of

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Speaker 1: things off. I was in a position that I've never

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Speaker 1: really been in before. I was certainly hormonal, and whatever

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Speaker 1: the reason, I think we all know the reason. But

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Speaker 1: I started becoming very self like hyper aware. I would

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Speaker 1: get nervous to say certain things, address certain things. I

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Speaker 1: just kind of wanted. I wanted to disappear without disappearing.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to crawl in a hole and just like

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Speaker 1: have people forget about me, but not forget about me,

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Speaker 1: if that makes any sense. I just haven't wanted to

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Speaker 1: really be myself. And after meeting with Chris Medina, we

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Speaker 1: had a lovely dinner. He's one of my most favorite people.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to get him back on the podcast because

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Speaker 1: I just think he's epic. And if you guys remember,

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Speaker 1: Chris Medina is really the one who told me that

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Speaker 1: my life was about to take a different direction and

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Speaker 1: that I needed to abort mission on my ex and

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Speaker 1: start getting my ducks in a row. That was in

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Speaker 1: September of twenty twenty one. By October, everything he said

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Speaker 1: gave me that date. He said something significant is going

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Speaker 1: to happen, and it absolutely did so to me, his

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Speaker 1: word and what he says is Bible, and he doesn't bullshit.

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Speaker 1: He's not here to paint a pretty picture. He's not

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Speaker 1: here to tell you exactly what's going to happen in

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Speaker 1: your life. He just kind of he feels very gifted

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Speaker 1: in a way that is is not to it's not

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Speaker 1: for show, it's not to gain a paycheck. This man

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Speaker 1: is just gifted and he shares what he shares, right

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Speaker 1: take it or leave it. I take him as Bible,

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Speaker 1: and he really gave me a boost in in myself

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Speaker 1: again and got me easton nose. I walked in the

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Speaker 1: house and I was like, I'm fucking back I'm fucking

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Speaker 1: La La Kent, Like we're here and I'm like done

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Speaker 1: with that person that has existed the past year. Let's

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Speaker 1: move on too, my baby this morning. So, first of all,

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Speaker 1: being a mom is very intense, especially to someone like

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Speaker 1: Ocean Kent, because she will call you on your shit. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: at four years old, I have been exhausted. Sosa is

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Speaker 1: completely off of HER's Sosa is very very needy right now.

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Speaker 2: Well she's sick.

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Speaker 1: I think it's beyond no no no no no.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we can't kind of get her. I was going

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Speaker 2: to get her back, but we're going to have her back. Yeah. No.

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Speaker 4: She loves her mom. And when you leave, I'm not

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Speaker 4: going to say she's tough. Yeah, but she's tough just because.

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Speaker 2: Like whiny, right, Yeah, she just wants her mom.

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Speaker 4: So it's like I feed her, I'll burper, I'll change

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Speaker 2: I'll hold her and walk around.

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Speaker 4: But there's just always some feeling of discomfort and her

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Speaker 4: like looking like where's my mom?

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Speaker 2: Yeah that, but I mean I feel like this is.

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Speaker 4: My first time even seeing you know, maybe five six

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Speaker 4: but I just see that that's her most comfort and

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Speaker 4: when you're not there, it's a little bit of frustration.

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Speaker 1: Well, yes, and it's amazing. She's a no, she's a

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Speaker 1: great baby, but you guys, when everyone's snoozing and granted,

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Speaker 1: this just comes with the territory of having a new baby,

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Speaker 1: but I had her on a really great schedule, and

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Speaker 1: her perfectly round head shows that she has been held

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Speaker 1: a lot. She's rarely put down. That is, has now

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Speaker 1: But in order for me to be a good mom,

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Speaker 1: You gotta like self soothed, because what's happening now is

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Speaker 1: I put her down because she's exhausted by six thirty.

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Speaker 1: She will then wake up at midnight. She then will

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Speaker 2: Is she eating at those hours or is she just like.

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Speaker 1: Up at midnight? So as moms, we know what cry

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Speaker 1: I'm hungry. I think she's ready for food. I think

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Speaker 1: definitely start bringing in the food, and I think that

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Speaker 2: It's the cutest thing in the world.

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Speaker 1: It's very cute, and I feel bad. It's like pretending

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Speaker 2: Then they just look at you like, well, why'd you

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Speaker 1: So sad. So that's where I'm at with so So

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Speaker 4: Yeah, when you leave me and she's asleep, that monitor

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Speaker 2: She's dead asleep, and I'm just staring at it, like

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Speaker 2: if she moves.

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Speaker 2: Like if she turns over, if she grabs, does she

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because she can't. Well when I say that, so

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Speaker 4: she can't pull him over her face? Well, you know,

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Speaker 4: everything scares me because she's such a grabber.

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Speaker 1: She's a grabber for sure. Yeah, and she's just very

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Speaker 2: It's frightening. Yes, I put her in that, and I

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Speaker 1: Way there's just it just simply can't be done. Like,

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Speaker 1: what if you get a footstuck in one of those bars.

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Speaker 1: They're telling you not to put bumpers in there, but

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Speaker 2: She's spinning around. Now.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she's a mover and a groover and a bouncer.

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Speaker 2: Baby lock her in, no for real?

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Speaker 1: So this morning, Uh, Ocean woke up and she's so

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Speaker 1: freaking cute. So she she comes in my bed at night,

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Speaker 1: but she wakes me up and tells me Sosa's crying

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Speaker 1: six thirty. Yea, it just can't be done. I bring

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Speaker 1: Ocean says, mom, you you're just the best mom ever.

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Speaker 1: She goes. You take care of me, you take care

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Speaker 1: of Sosa, you take care of this whole house, you

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Speaker 1: take care of our toys. I just love you, mom,

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Speaker 1: You're just really great.

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Speaker 2: And I was like I so needed that this morning. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Like I.

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Speaker 1: Feel like I'm gonna cry.

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Speaker 2: Oh you should cry because you really aren't a great mom.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't even about that. I'm like this child who

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Speaker 1: know if she was sensing that, like I needed just

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Speaker 1: a little boost of like, hey, you're fucking doing great.

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Speaker 2: No, she's she's an old soul. She's very bright.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, she can go off emotion very well. Even I've

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Speaker 4: seen her do it to Gigi, Yeah, are you okay?

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Speaker 4: And it's when like I'm in a tiff or we're

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Speaker 4: But no, she does have that that sense of if

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Speaker 1: No rocks. Yeah that's how I feel. So she's never

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Speaker 4: Like for her to be in there and like they

437
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:37,040
Speaker 4: want to be in her graces, that speaks loudly about her.

438
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,680
Speaker 1: I love Renna, and no one can tell me otherwise.

439
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,199
Speaker 1: I think she's fucking gangster. She doesn't care if you

440
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 1: don't want to hear it. She doesn't care if it's

441
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,959
Speaker 1: an unpopular opinion. She she says it like it is

442
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:52,120
Speaker 1: or how she sees it. And I'm sorry, you may.

443
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 2: Not like it, but I'm gonna say it.

444
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,000
Speaker 1: What is that I think? Is it? Calici goes, You

445
00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 1: don't have to love me, you don't even have to

446
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,720
Speaker 1: like me, but you will respect me if you can

447
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 1: be you authentically you at all times, even when people go,

448
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,439
Speaker 1: I don't fucking agree with you at all. You may

449
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,920
Speaker 1: not like me, love me, but you got to respect it. Yeah,

450
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 1: that's how I feel. So I watched the new documentary

451
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 1: about Gabby Patito. What I gathered was the laundry parents

452
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 1: are pieces of shit. His parents, Brian Laundry, the one

453
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:28,640
Speaker 1: who did it.

454
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 2: Didn't they try to cover it up.

455
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,400
Speaker 1: So during this time, I remember it vividly. There were

456
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 1: so many people. There were like group text messages. Everyone

457
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 1: was trying to solve this, this missing person's case. And

458
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 1: then they obviously found the body and everyone knew that

459
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 1: it was it just I don't remember any documentary having

460
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:53,399
Speaker 1: this level of interviews, this level of receipts brought where

461
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 1: like Brian Laundry's mom sent a letter to him and

462
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 1: it said after reading and in it it basically states

463
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 1: how much she loves and supports him, and it says,

464
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 1: if you kill someone, I will bring you the shovels

465
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 1: to bury the body. And they show police footage. Gabby's

466
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 1: mom calls in to her local authority saying, my daughter's

467
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 1: been gone for ten days. I haven't heard a word

468
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,680
Speaker 1: from her. It's not like her. They call down to Florida.

469
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:32,479
Speaker 1: Florida police go up to the Laundry home. The parents

470
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:38,120
Speaker 1: come out. They say that he flew back, he's here,

471
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 1: but she's not. Okay, Well, can we talk to him? No,

472
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 1: you can contact our lawyer. How the fuck you're gonna

473
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 1: have a lawyer already, and how is he how has

474
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 1: he flown back? But Gabby's van is parked in the driveway,

475
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 1: and we got to from from what I saw, it

476
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,680
Speaker 1: was the first time seeing the conversations that were happening

477
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:02,679
Speaker 1: between New York and Florida to understand how to locate

478
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,160
Speaker 1: this Brian laundry or get him to talk at all,

479
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,639
Speaker 1: and people going, this is suspicious, like New York was saying,

480
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 1: you don't think it's suspicious that he claims to have

481
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 1: flown home, but her van is in the driveway. You

482
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 1: don't think it's suspicious that he's home and her family

483
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 1: hasn't heard from her in over ten days. It was

484
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 1: the most wild thing I had ever watched in my life,

485
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 1: to see real footage of police and actually what goes

486
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:40,439
Speaker 1: into yes, and you know, her family then went to

487
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 1: Utah because the fight that kind of kicked everything off

488
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 1: was in Moab and Gabby's mom and dad. There's this

489
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,639
Speaker 1: law that they want to pass. I forgive me. I

490
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 1: don't know if it passed, but there's eleven questions in

491
00:25:56,160 --> 00:26:03,439
Speaker 1: a domestic violence situation need to ask before letting the

492
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 1: two people go. They said, had these eleven questions been

493
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,199
Speaker 1: asked and answered. We believe that Gabby would still be

494
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 1: here today.

495
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's the one thing with this, uh,

496
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,360
Speaker 4: with the law. Yeah, you get them when it's too late.

497
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 4: People come and say that this has been going on,

498
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 4: that's been going on, and they're like, well, we don't

499
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 4: there's nothing we can do, we can't do anything, and

500
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 4: then they end up dying. Another one that happened was

501
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 4: in Utah. Remember the the girl who the guy was

502
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 4: stalking her. He said he was way younger than at.

503
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 1: The University of Utah.

504
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,360
Speaker 2: And then when and they were saying like there wasn't

505
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:38,640
Speaker 2: enough evidence, she kept calling.

506
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 1: She went to the police, she went to it.

507
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,400
Speaker 4: Was like campus security, all of these things, and they

508
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 4: didn't do anything. And look what happened. And she came

509
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 4: with receipts that I think were enough evidence to at

510
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 4: least detain him, ask him, see what the hell is

511
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 4: going on on his end. But now we have a

512
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 4: death and another thing just too late, And how many

513
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 4: of them have we been too late.

514
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: And nothing has changed, And it's it's like, why don't

515
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 1: we try a new approach. How about we prevent death

516
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: instead of holding people accountable? After the person has been murdered.

517
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I a little off topic, but on topic. I

518
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 4: don't know the tennis player's name. But there was a

519
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 4: tennis match going and the girl stopped in the middle

520
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 4: of the game, okay, walked over to like the tennis

521
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 4: ref the ref okay, and was crying. She spotted her

522
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 4: stalker in the fucking crowd out of thousands of people,

523
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 4: and she broke down and started crying.

524
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 1: They did they do anything?

525
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 2: I mean, I saw like the video.

526
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 4: I didn't look more into it, but I'm a I

527
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 4: think they fucking probably escorted him. And they have questions,

528
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 4: but like, how what if she didn't cry? What if

529
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 4: she didn't make you know, it apparent that she was

530
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 4: in discomfort in front of all of these people.

531
00:27:58,920 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 2: What if she just kept playing?

532
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 4: Was like I'm all right, left and got killed again?

533
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 4: You know, like what if that was he was there

534
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 4: for that?

535
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 1: What do you mean killed again? Have you any talented.

536
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 4: If he were to kill Like I'm just saying again,

537
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 4: like we got it too late.

538
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 2: Oh say, yah're in.

539
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 4: Just another case that we got too late. If she

540
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 4: didn't make that, like if she didn't cry and everybody

541
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 4: was seeing it and she pointed the guy out right,

542
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 4: who knows if she left that match, if she would

543
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 4: have kept her mouth shut, if she would have been

544
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 4: murdered by him.

545
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: Her name's Emma Radu.

546
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 2: Kanu sounds about right.

547
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what though, that's another I'm just gonna

548
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:40,479
Speaker 1: say it. In the eyes of the legal system, no

549
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: matter which one it is, whether it's justice, family court,

550
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 1: women are looked at as volatile, unhinged, emotional, and we

551
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: are looked at as as people who overreact.

552
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 4: But can I say, I feel like that's all true,

553
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 4: to be honest, But can I tell you why? It's

554
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 4: because you guys have been in that position for so

555
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 4: long and you're wanting somebody to fucking listen.

556
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: But they don't look at it that way. They look

557
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: at it as, oh, see, look, how there she's being

558
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: a woman. And I just want to point this out

559
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 1: out of all of the people, statistically, how many more

560
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 1: men than women When you see a woman saying, please

561
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: fucking do something when it comes to their children, when

562
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: it comes to their own safety, no one does anything. Why, well,

563
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: she's just emotional and then she ends up dead and

564
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 1: guess who it usually is? The fucking guy in that

565
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: moment with Gabby Patito. She took all the blame. He

566
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 1: went to some fucking hotel because he didn't have any money.

567
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: It was for it was a place where people who

568
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: have fallen victim to domestic violence. That's where he was

569
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: taken while this one hundred and they said, one hundred

570
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: and ten pound girl was left to stay by herself

571
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: in a van while he got to go. And this

572
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: is what the cops said. You can go get a

573
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 1: warm shower and watch some TV while Gabby is in

574
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: this van by herself and she can go get it.

575
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: You since she can go get a shower for like

576
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: four or five bucks, relax, how about this? How about

577
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: you put me up in the hotel and make this

578
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: fucking guy stay in the van. Keep in mind someone

579
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: called the cops and said, we just saw a guy

580
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 1: slapping a woman.

581
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 2: So the abuser gets taken care of in this world.

582
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 1: Because he's calm. Gabby's having a panic attack.

583
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 4: She's having her women. So you know, why do we

584
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 4: look at them as they're emotional? There this there that, No,

585
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 4: they want to be fucking heard, we listen.

586
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: Thank you, yes, I agree. Did you know that in

587
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: the family court system, if a mother has suspicions that

588
00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: her child is running the risk of being harmed by

589
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: the father, which is usually how it goes. I'm not

590
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 1: saying all the time, but statistics show more times than.

591
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 2: Not more men.

592
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: It's the men who the woman fears, not all the time.

593
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 1: There are some women who are all so scary.

594
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 2: Show yes, is more of the men.

595
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: When a mother says, I am worried for the safety

596
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:27,479
Speaker 1: of my child. The court system, if the man is

597
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: not convicted of something, they get a full custody of

598
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 1: the child, and the accuser ends up losing full custody,

599
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: and in many cases more than should happen, the child

600
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: ends up dying by murder suicide. And they go back

601
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: and show how many times the mother went to the police,

602
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: went to her lawyer, went to a judge, saying, someone

603
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: fucking listen to me, I'm very worried about my child.

604
00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 1: The entire Gabby Petito Sitch situation could have been handled

605
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 1: very differently and she would still be here. I believe

606
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: had that situation in Moab been handled differently. Keep in mind,

607
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 1: for the first time I saw the boyfriend interviewed, his

608
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: name's Jackson, and there was a moment that Brian on

609
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: the road trip, went back to Florida to clean out

610
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: a storage unit. In this time, she calls her ex boyfriend.

611
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: She basically texts him and says, I want to talk

612
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: and catch up if you're around, I'm only going to

613
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: be alone until tomorrow. They end up connecting. They're talking

614
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: catching up, and he said I could tell that there

615
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: was something that she still wanted to talk about, so

616
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: he asked her. She said, I want to leave Brian,

617
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: and I'm going to implement my plan. On August twenty seventh,

618
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: she tries calling Jackson again. He doesn't answer because he's

619
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,959
Speaker 1: at work. That was the last time that anybody heard

620
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: from her. Poor man and he they take a trip

621
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: to where her body was found in Wyoming and it's

622
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 1: a big group of them, mom, dad, best friends, Jack's

623
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: and the ex boyfriend and they take a group picture

624
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: and there's an ORB and NICKI, Gabby's mom was like,

625
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if anyone believes in this, but I

626
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:25,959
Speaker 1: believe that she was there that day, and I just

627
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: I cannot even imagine. I used to be able to

628
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: watch things like this, and yes I would cry, but

629
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 1: watching it now is someone who has a child and

630
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: I and just the thought of, like if my child

631
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 1: were in danger. She seemed to offer something like what

632
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: does one do with a child who's twenty two years old?

633
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: And she's telling you that she wants to go and

634
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: do all of these things, But there's little nuggets that

635
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: she drops where it's like, my child's unhappy, What do

636
00:33:58,600 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: you do?

637
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 2: What do you do? I mean, that's up for somebody

638
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 2: with a pH d.

639
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 1: I don't know. I really don't even for.

640
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 4: My mom and your mom she made it and dad,

641
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 4: they made it very easy to talk about hard things, right.

642
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 4: And so I feel like I as a parent, I

643
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 4: feel that the only thing you can do is honest

644
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 4: communication to where and you can't always you know, it's

645
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,760
Speaker 4: up to the child to tell you if that's the case.

646
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 4: So really there's nothing you can do because it's it's

647
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 4: a personal choice for them to tell you or not.

648
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 2: I can do everything in the world.

649
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 4: I can lead the horse to water, I can't make

650
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 4: it drink, right, So really there is nothing.

651
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 2: And that's what I think parenting is.

652
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 4: It's a lot of unknown and it's a lot of

653
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 4: I want to say, mental anxiety on things that will

654
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 4: never happen.

655
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: But the fact that they could is like, is what?

656
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 4: And the percentage of what you think about happening is like.

657
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,959
Speaker 2: Fucking point oh one percent? Right, But that's still enough

658
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,919
Speaker 2: to make me fucking go nuts.

659
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: Right, I need it to be a solid one hundred percent.

660
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 1: It will never happen.

661
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 2: So I don't think there's anything you can do.

662
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 4: Be there for your child, open and honest conversations and

663
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 4: just hope to God that they feel comfortable telling you

664
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 4: everything and more.

665
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: Do you want to know how they found her body?

666
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:28,800
Speaker 2: No? Please?

667
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 1: So it's actually pretty incredible. So Gabby's mom can't get

668
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:39,280
Speaker 1: a hold of anybody. She texts Brian's parents. They don't respond.

669
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: She texts them again. It goes through his green which

670
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 1: means she was either blocked or they turned the phone off.

671
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,720
Speaker 1: So she says, fuck it, I'm going on social media.

672
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: She starts posting Where's Gabby, sends it to all of

673
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: her friends. Her friends send it to everybody, so it

674
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: becomes this nationwide where is my daughter? They give a

675
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 1: timeline the police and post it and they say this

676
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 1: is where she was last seen. This is you know,

677
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 1: the park that they were in, and there was this

678
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: other Van Lifer couple. Van Life just means that they

679
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 1: live in a van and they travel and they have

680
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 1: the best time. Very cute couple. And they look at

681
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 1: the timeline. They're like, damn, we just missed them. Like

682
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: we were there, but we were only there from the

683
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 1: twenty seventh to whenever they were there, so we just

684
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 1: missed them. Something pops up that says, y'all, the timeline

685
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: this like van lifeer group chat. The timeline has changed.

686
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 1: This woman looks at it and goes, holy shit, the

687
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: timeline matches up with when we were there. She goes

688
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: back to review all of her footage and sure enough,

689
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 1: she passes the fucking van, sends it into police. They

690
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 1: match up how the trees are where the van was positioned,

691
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: and there was her body, uh and it looks staged

692
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: in the fetal position, boots next to her, her hood

693
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: was over her head. Autopsy came back that she had

694
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: blunt force trauma and strangulation by hands. And then Brian

695
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: goes missing. So his family calls the police saying, our

696
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:17,280
Speaker 1: son is missing. They see his car at a well

697
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: known trail and campsite that he liked to go to.

698
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: Now that they found Gabby's body, instead of Brian being

699
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 1: a missings person. He's like a fugitive most wanted. They

700
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 1: go out to search for him. They find his remains

701
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,800
Speaker 1: because he had been out there for over thirty days,

702
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 1: gunshot to the head. He leaves a fucking note that

703
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 1: says that Gabby was walking across the river. He heard

704
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,280
Speaker 1: a splash. It was very dark. She hit her head.

705
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: She was screaming, so he gave he strangled her and

706
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 1: gave her a mercy kill. It just simply isn't true.

707
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 2: Well no, because there was no blunt force trauma to

708
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 2: her head. Right.

709
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: There was blunt force trauma, but it wasn't.

710
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 2: The way that a rock would leave it.

711
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: Right, Like, just the way the autopsy report came back,

712
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: it was.

713
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 2: Like this was like a bat or something from.

714
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: This was a homicide. This wasn't like someone slipped and fell.

715
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: And I just couldn't believe that at the very end

716
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 1: of it all, you're going to write a note.

717
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 2: You're gonna lie to everyone full of bullshit.

718
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 4: At least go out with the fucking at least be

719
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 4: a man and just say you did what you did

720
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:21,720
Speaker 4: and you took your own life.

721
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 2: Because now you're just leaving questions for the family.

722
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: It's devastating, and there's this woman.

723
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 2: Uh did the parents get anything? What do you mean

724
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 2: the laundry his mom and dad should get I don't know.

725
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: They didn't catch up on they didn't.

726
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 2: Put that out. I think his parents should be getting time.

727
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 1: Well, who knows. We could google it right now and

728
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 1: they could be, you know, under some sort of investigation.

729
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: I mean, it was wild to see the text messages

730
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 1: that were not only.

731
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 4: That, but for her to write, if you kill somebody,

732
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 4: I'll bring you shovels.

733
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 2: That right there is.

734
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 1: Just like keep in mind, they look at the call log.

735
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 1: Brian a call multiple one of which was almost an hour.

736
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: Then they look at the parents call log, and after

737
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:14,240
Speaker 1: that call, a call is made to Wyoming to a

738
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: criminal defense attorney, and he's retained for twenty five thousand dollars.

739
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, but here's what's wild. Is yet they sit

740
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: there and it's like, yeah, suspicious. I'm sorry, but that's

741
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: more than suspicious.

742
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 2: This is hi.

743
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: This person murdered somebody and he's retaining counsel. This isn't

744
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 1: like but we don't know.

745
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 2: We know.

746
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:35,760
Speaker 1: This is called common sense.

747
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 2: Your actions have told me that you're guilty.

748
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: Yes, it's just wild to me, just to see the

749
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: justice system and how slow it is. But one of

750
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:52,280
Speaker 1: the FBI agents, she was fucking amazing on it. From Florida,

751
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 1: tattoos everywhere, short hair, she was actually very hot. I

752
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: was into her and she started crying at the end

753
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 1: of it, and she said, my job matters. These victims'

754
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:12,760
Speaker 1: lives matter. And although Gabby's story is very unique, she said,

755
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 1: there are tens of thousands of missing women who are black, brown,

756
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,720
Speaker 1: and indigenous who have never made it on the news,

757
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 1: who have never been found, never been talked about. And

758
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: at the beginning, Gabby's dad said, you know, at first,

759
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: I was a little put off when they said that

760
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 1: all of these women of color are missing and no

761
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 1: one cares. And suddenly this white woman goes missing and

762
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,720
Speaker 1: rallies the whole country. He goes, I was taken aback.

763
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 1: I was offended, and he goes, and then I had

764
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 1: to remove myself from it and think, what if I

765
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: were on the other side of my child not being found,

766
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:57,839
Speaker 1: but these people are rallying, and he goes, like I

767
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 1: did start understanding and thought I need to make it difference.

768
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 1: So that happened at the very end. Let's talk about

769
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: the Don't Lie documentary. Wow, I the Potito case is crazy, though.

770
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 2: No, the Potito case is crazy. The uh, the Brian.

771
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 1: Johnson thing, isn't it wild?

772
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 2: It's wild. I mean he's doing what rats are doing.

773
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,320
Speaker 1: Okay, So if you guys don't know, there's a Netflix

774
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: documentary called Don't Die, and it's this guy, Brian Johnson.

775
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 1: He's super fucking rep like he's wealthy. He's not fucking rich.

776
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 4: He's like he sold his company, like he owned Venmo

777
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 4: and one other thing, and he's so pal yeah PayPal

778
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:34,720
Speaker 4: for like four hundred millions.

779
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got money for sure.

780
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 1: So and he's spending it on blueprint. Yeah, he's basically

781
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 1: like reversing his body clock to be at eighteen again

782
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,720
Speaker 1: and like defy defying aging.

783
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, Benjamin Button defy agging. But I mean all it

784
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 4: is is like they're putting new chromosomes and things like that.

785
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: And you know, he injects plasma he gets from doing

786
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: plasma exchange with his son.

787
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 4: But I watched it. It isn't that weird. He his

788
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 4: son gave him some, he gave his dad some. So

789
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 4: it's like, uh, okay, it's just a thing like that.

790
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 4: So I didn't think it was that weird. It was

791
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 4: just like giving my dad plasma, my dad's giving his

792
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 4: dad plasma, or just giving plasma to each.

793
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: Other, just defying aging by giving Hella plasma. Can I

794
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 1: tell you something about Brian Johnson really quickly? So I'm

795
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: at Candyland. This is probably a year ago, and there's

796
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: this woman who knows me from the show, and she

797
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: tells me she works for somebody and says, you know,

798
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: he's very, very wealthy. She doesn't tell me his name.

799
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,439
Speaker 1: She just tells me why he's wealthy. So of course

800
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,879
Speaker 1: I google. She wanted to set me up with him.

801
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 2: No, no, shit, he's a freak. She's such a normal.

802
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 1: Guys like I think you would really like him. She

803
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 1: did not tell me. She goes, if you're interested, just

804
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: let me know and I can talk to him and

805
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: we can make happen. Did not give me a name.

806
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: I want to make that very clear. If this woman

807
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 1: still works for him, I don't want her to get

808
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: fired because I did the digging on my own. Yes,

809
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 1: she gave me very little. This was the only time

810
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: that I've ever dug Okay.

811
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, how could you not? It's like, who is

812
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 2: this man.

813
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:21,359
Speaker 1: Who is this guy?

814
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:23,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's wealthy. He wants to go out. I won't

815
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 4: give you a name. It's like, all right, where's walday?

816
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 1: I think you guys would be really great for each other.

817
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,439
Speaker 1: Google that shit thought. Nrks kirt.

818
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 4: His life is depressing. He doesn't even go out in sunlight. Yeah,

819
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 4: if it's to a certain uv. He sleeps with like

820
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 4: he does unreal shit. He takes like fifty six like

821
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 4: pills a day.

822
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's wild. If you're not going to enjoy

823
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:45,800
Speaker 1: your life, why would you want to live longer?

824
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 2: Exactly? And that's the thing.

825
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 4: He's like, you know, I just want to be able

826
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 4: to have, you know, more time with my son and

827
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 4: generations and generations.

828
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: And it's like, wait, you're gonna bring him into your

829
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: dark room? There it is you're talking about.

830
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 4: I have a feeling your son doesn't care to play

831
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 4: ping pong all that much.

832
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 2: It's the only thing they did together and work out.

833
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 4: It's like, at some point, your son is gonna go

834
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:06,800
Speaker 4: I need a goddamn life.

835
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, for real.

836
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 2: It's what you don't understand. Guyoh, is you had one? Yeah?

837
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 1: Have you ever heard the term live fast die?

838
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:14,760
Speaker 2: Young?

839
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: Bad girls do it. Well, we all just want to

840
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 1: enjoy our life. The thought of living forever exhausts me.

841
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 1: I'm thirty four and already lattired as fuck.

842
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:27,280
Speaker 2: That's how I feel.

843
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 4: And what everything he's doing for every twelve months he's

844
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 4: in the aging.

845
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: Eight eight months not even worth it?

846
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 2: Well, I mean attack on the years. But here's what

847
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 2: I want to know. He's a guinea pig.

848
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 4: I want to know the brain side of things, because

849
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 4: he's doing a lot of things. Yes, your body may

850
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 4: be able to go forever, your mind now, so he's

851
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 4: just gonna be a walking idiot.

852
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 1: No, he's gonna look it's really really good, but he's gonna.

853
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 4: I like, no, he's not gonna be alive like that

854
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 4: mentally totally. Well, then your body shuts down because your

855
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 4: mind's telling your body. So if your mind just shuts

856
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 4: down everything you.

857
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 1: Know, it seems like he's bored. He could be bored.

858
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, he'll live a.

859
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 4: Real life, buddy, and you won't be bed at eight

860
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 4: thirty up at four thirty.

861
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 2: He eats a pound of vegetables.

862
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: A pound.

863
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 2: It's the same thing every day. Him and his son

864
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 2: eat the same exact Oh.

865
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 1: No, don't project it. Onto your son. Don't project your

866
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:28,439
Speaker 1: weirdness onto your son.

867
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, I'm glad that somebody is being

868
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:31,399
Speaker 2: the guinea pig.

869
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 4: There's also somebody I don't remember his name, but he

870
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 4: spent thirty thousand dollars a year and he's at the

871
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 4: exact same levels as this guy spending two all right,

872
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 4: but I think the two million is like your hair

873
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 4: growth that has like the red light.

874
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 2: His he just does a lot of bullshit.

875
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: I feel like, I think he should just take neutrafilt

876
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 1: know about it? How could you not? Everyone knows about it.

877
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: Nobody lives in the dark.

878
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 2: Good there it is speaking.

879
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:02,919
Speaker 1: Of children and rejecting onto them. Mel Robins, who I guess,

880
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: is like a super controversial person. She has the Mel

881
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 1: Robins podcast, and she was talking about silent treatment and

882
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: how it's super toxic and manipulative behavior. A lot of

883
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: people were saying, but sometimes you need to calm down

884
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,720
Speaker 1: before you communicate, so you have to go silent.

885
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 2: But guess what you have to do before you calm

886
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 2: down communicate? That go Everything is communication.

887
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,800
Speaker 4: A silent treatment only works if you go I can't

888
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 4: talk right now.

889
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 2: I'm giving you a silent treatment. I'll talk to you

890
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 2: when I'm ready. Yeah, boom, he knows, she knows, whatever

891
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 2: the case may be.

892
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 4: But you now know because you're not going to go

893
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 4: up and ask a stupid question and then get the

894
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:46,240
Speaker 4: silent treatment.

895
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 1: No, the silent treatment actually really really bothers me. I

896
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 1: find it to be and for someone like me, I

897
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 1: tap into aggression.

898
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 2: Oh see, do you want to know when I get

899
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 2: the silent treatment? What cool? Need you?

900
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 4: What do you mean like, if somebody's giving me the

901
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 4: silent treatment, you don't get to give me a silent treatment?

902
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 2: You're gone to me now?

903
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 1: Oh okay, ye, lucky for you. I find it to

904
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 1: be a toxic trait.

905
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 4: Well, it's very and that's why I remove myself from toxicity.

906
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think because I'm not even say, like, what

907
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: did I do?

908
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna fucking go through mental gymnastics to think

909
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 4: what did I do for them to be upset?

910
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck.

911
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 1: You can acknowledge that it is. Well, I find it to

912
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 1: be super damaging when you do that with your children. Yeah,

913
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 1: I think that communication and I think maybe she what

914
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: she was trying to say is it's okay to not

915
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 1: want to talk but you have to communicate that before

916
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 1: you just stop answering. Yeah, I can't imagine being with

917
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: someone or parenting in the way where you say like

918
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,720
Speaker 1: you're in an argument and then you just shut down

919
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 1: and no one can get through to you. When someone

920
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: does that to me, I immediately go into name calling, doing

921
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,879
Speaker 1: anything to get a rise out of you. So now

922
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:18,919
Speaker 1: your toxic trait has brought out my toxic trait when

923
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 1: this could have been squashed by saying I need a

924
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: minute to not talk to you. And I just feel

925
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:30,240
Speaker 1: that to say for anyone to say like that silent

926
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 1: treatment is a good move. Anyone you talk to who

927
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 1: has half a brain cell. And also people like doctors

928
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 1: tell you communication is everything.

929
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 2: Communication is key, absolutely.

930
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: Lawnmower parenting Easton is basically so there's like there's hover parents,

931
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 1: who I know a few of those super fucking annoying.

932
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 1: By the way, like the kid falls and it's like,

933
00:48:56,719 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 1: oh my god, oh my god, they're choking. You know,

934
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 1: they like put a finger in their mouth and gag

935
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh my god, we have to put

936
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: mittens on her at all times.

937
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 2: No, it's like, let her do it a couple more

938
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 2: times and she's quit doing it.

939
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: Well. By the way, they need to know how to gag.

940
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 1: That's how they don't choke.

941
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I think not.

942
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 1: A fan of putting giant like stick not sticks, but like.

943
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 2: There suckers that if fall can like jam back in.

944
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 1: No, no, no, there's there's this parenting book where you

945
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 1: basically give your child like an asparagus or like a

946
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 1: big carrot, and they can eat it and they learn

947
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 1: how to like use their gag reflexes. I'm not a

948
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 1: huge fan of that. That I'm a little scared of.

949
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: But so so she stays jamming her fingers in her

950
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 1: mouth like her thumb and gets it back there and

951
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 1: goes and I'm like, great, okay, I like the the

952
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 1: finger method of gagging yourself to.

953
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:51,240
Speaker 2: Know like that you can gag.

954
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, a little too far back. Need to get this out.

955
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 1: But the helicopter parents are basically prime example. If you

956
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 1: remember like Felicity Huffman, Nope, she was, she's an actress

957
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,399
Speaker 1: and it was her and I think Lorie Laughlin who

958
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: played the wife of Jesse on Full House the Hot One. Okay,

959
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 1: they paid a significant amount of money to get their

960
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: children into USC so it's basically parents who try to

961
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,399
Speaker 1: make their child's life a little bit easier to kind

962
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: of catapult them ahead further than they than they would

963
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,720
Speaker 1: get without your help. If that makes sense. You forget

964
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: your violin at home and you have a performance that day,

965
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 1: your mom runs home to get it for you and

966
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 1: brings it back. You have now been a part of

967
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: a lawnmower parenting moment of you not understanding consequences because

968
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 1: your mom just made it easier.

969
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,760
Speaker 2: For you to a certain degree.

970
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 4: I mean, like to the violin point, if my kid

971
00:50:58,600 --> 00:50:59,919
Speaker 4: forgot it, I'd be like, fuck, I would have forgot

972
00:50:59,960 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 4: it kid, I'll go.

973
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 2: Grab it for you.

974
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, but like I mean, I need other

975
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 1: I here's how I feel about it, because I ain't

976
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 1: no parent. No, I am very good and proud of you,

977
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 1: and I think this is the way that I would

978
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: want to do it. For Ocean example, she's only three

979
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 1: almost four. Let's just say she didn't clean up her

980
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: room and she doesn't want to, so I then do it.

981
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:42,240
Speaker 1: The conversation that I will have with her is my love,

982
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 1: I will pick it up for you this time. If

983
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,839
Speaker 1: I have to do it again, there will be a consequence.

984
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 1: But then I talked to mom, and Mom said, when

985
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:55,320
Speaker 1: you and Easton were that age, I did nothing except

986
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 1: pick up after you guys at all times. And then

987
00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 1: you guys hit a certain age where I just wasn't

988
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 1: doing it. If you wanted to live in your own filth,

989
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 1: you were. You were more than capable of cleaning up

990
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,280
Speaker 1: on your own, hanging your clothes up, putting shit away.

991
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 1: And if you chose not to, well the consequences you

992
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 1: have to live in it. Close the freaking door. And

993
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 1: I ended up cleaning up my own stuff. But to

994
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,399
Speaker 1: tell a parent to have their children live the hard

995
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:20,919
Speaker 1: way to prepare them for the real world. I will

996
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: prepare my child for the real world by having conversations

997
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 1: with them.

998
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:25,879
Speaker 2: Yes, so they have to.

999
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,359
Speaker 1: Know that when they're with Mama, that's comfort. I will

1000
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,280
Speaker 1: protect the fuck out of you because this is home.

1001
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1002
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: I don't love the idea of saying like this is

1003
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 1: not a good way of parenting. It does them a

1004
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 1: disservice in the end, because I truly believe it's just

1005
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: you can only do so much for your children before

1006
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: you just accept this is who they are, and they

1007
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 1: came like this. Some kids just come with drives some

1008
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 1: kids don't. Some kids come with you know, I need

1009
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 1: to turn in my papers. I knew every time I

1010
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 1: went to school there were papers to turn in. You

1011
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 1: would literally have papers in your folder on the turn inside.

1012
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 1: Dad would have this conversation with you morning up. You

1013
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 1: would come back with a folder and the paper is

1014
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 1: still inside. You just didn't grasp it.

1015
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:15,359
Speaker 2: No, I just didn't care.

1016
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 1: It didn't matter. No, you would get a bad grade

1017
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: and it did not matter. It didn't teach you anything.

1018
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 1: So I come from a place of parenting where I'm like,

1019
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 1: it's tough out there, and I need them to know

1020
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: it's tough out there. And I can prepare them with

1021
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 1: my words and I can tell them with my experience.

1022
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,880
Speaker 1: But I'm not going to sit here and have home

1023
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:38,959
Speaker 1: be like it is out there.

1024
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 2: No fuck no, no.

1025
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 1: We will lawnmower the shit out of every situation at

1026
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:47,319
Speaker 1: this house because your boss isn't going to do it

1027
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 1: for you. There's only so much time that you're in

1028
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 1: this house before you're in the real world, and it'll

1029
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 1: buck you up for me. Yeah, I don't got to

1030
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 1: do that.

1031
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 2: We'll have those tough conversations to buck you up. Yeah,

1032
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:00,839
Speaker 2: after they're done, We're back to home.

1033
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you.

1034
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 4: It's a fair there's a happy medium on helicopter, lawnmower, whatever, mom, dad,

1035
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 4: they want to call it. But I think there's just

1036
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 4: a happy medium. And that's the other thing. It's all

1037
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 4: dependent on the kid. Yeah, you know, if everybody were

1038
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 4: to parent the same, it'd be a clusterfuck.

1039
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 1: I'm just glad Ocean's not a pussy.

1040
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 2: No, Ocean needs to pussy up a little bit.

1041
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 1: She's got She fell off of this massive like swing

1042
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,879
Speaker 1: set yesterday. The school called me and they were like, hey,

1043
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 1: I just want to let you know that Ocean's going

1044
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 1: to come home with kind of a cut up lip.

1045
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 1: It did bleed. She's fine. She didn't cry, but she

1046
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 1: did come into the office with a bloody lip and

1047
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 1: wanted to tell me all about how it happened. And

1048
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 1: then told me like, you definitely need to warn my mom.

1049
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:48,800
Speaker 2: You should tell my mom.

1050
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 1: And I asked her, I was like, did you cry?

1051
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 1: She got this big old cut in her lip. I said,

1052
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 1: what happened, dude, and she was like, yeah, I was

1053
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 1: just playing. Fell didn't even cry. It's like, did it

1054
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:03,799
Speaker 1: bleed a lot? Yeah, a lot of blood and it

1055
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 1: was actually true because when I went in to get

1056
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 1: her from naptime, no, all the kids were like, she

1057
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 1: was bleeding today, all of them. She was bleeding on

1058
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 1: the playground and summer goes and she didn't even cry.

1059
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 4: She's a story right now, all these Yeah, there was

1060
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 4: a girl who was bleeding in my class.

1061
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a kid that There was a kid

1062
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 1: that kicked her chair. So she kicked his back and

1063
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 1: then he did it again, and she said, you keep

1064
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:37,319
Speaker 1: kicking my chair. Kickers get kicked. I was like, hell yeah,

1065
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 1: and the teacher was like, that's true. But if you're

1066
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 1: going to keep doing it to her, she's going to

1067
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 1: do it back. But I tell her, I'm like girl

1068
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 1: from the very beginning, remember when she was a bier. Yes,

1069
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 1: you bite, get bit girl. I forgot about that hard

1070
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 1: she was you. Anyway, we're going to jump into the

1071
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:59,360
Speaker 1: bonus episode. You guys, I hope you enjoyed this episode

1072
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:02,280
Speaker 1: of the Give Them Lola podcast. I love you guys,

1073
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 1: Happy hump Day. We'll catch you next week.

1074
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 2: By