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Speaker 1: Here we are off the edge with your host Cam Jordan.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited because I gotta talk to one of my

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Speaker 2: one of my young legends.

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Speaker 1: When I was young, he was a.

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Speaker 2: Legend as well as you know, had some time to

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Speaker 2: play at the same time, as well as a man

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Speaker 2: who used to call yours on the home found out

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Speaker 2: it's no longer home for but it's fine. I still

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Speaker 2: do a Vikings for sure, a legend, a man who

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Speaker 2: played with kans City Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: And finished with the Panthers.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about it. Don't forget the stint with Chicago

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Speaker 2: as well.

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Speaker 3: We're trying to forget that.

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Speaker 1: My guy, Jared Allen, big dog, how are you feeling?

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Speaker 2: I mean, we could also add to all pros the

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Speaker 2: Pro Bowls, you know, one hundred and thirty six sacks,

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Speaker 2: five time Pro bowler, you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm good, man, I'm good.

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Speaker 4: Just enjoying, enjoying the retired life now, I tell you what,

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Speaker 4: you blinking it And I can't believe I've been done

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Speaker 4: for almost nine ten years now and it's uh, it's

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Speaker 4: a crazy thing.

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Speaker 1: Mm you're still playing. I'll say it sounds good though.

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's amazing. I love it. I love it.

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Speaker 4: I saw you, I saw you on do some NFL

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Speaker 4: thing the other day, and I was just you know,

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Speaker 4: they said fourteen years, and I think it's because I

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Speaker 4: have I know your dad so well right then, I

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Speaker 4: just make sure you was younger and not really like

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Speaker 4: like you know, I'm like fourteen years. There's definitely long

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Speaker 4: in the tooth.

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Speaker 1: Now we're still doing it. I mean, come on your

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Speaker 1: eighties baby. How many eighties baby? We had some, you know,

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Speaker 1: we had some go through.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, absolutely, it's good to see you out.

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Speaker 4: They're still getting after people, man, and so especially because

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Speaker 4: in this modern day, like you know, what everything's like

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Speaker 4: seems to be like a specific position. Everybody's got this

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Speaker 4: like oh he's a pastors or he's a run They're

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Speaker 4: always constantly moving.

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Speaker 3: So to see a four down d N still crushing and.

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Speaker 2: Lost, yeah, you know, bring the hands to work and

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Speaker 2: bring them every day, you know, like I still enjoy

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Speaker 2: choking a good office of lineman out and thank you.

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Speaker 4: I was telling something the other day, this is that

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Speaker 4: hands of the face rule where you can't go to

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Speaker 4: hands the face office. You want to get my hands

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Speaker 4: on my face, go for it, because I'm going right

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Speaker 4: back to you, no doubt, right, So you know what,

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Speaker 4: it's getting a little soft in there, and.

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Speaker 2: The triple a little now that the referees are stuck

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Speaker 2: behind the office of line so all that they don't

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Speaker 2: even see it hands on the face.

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Speaker 1: They just see net movement. I'm like, come on, don't

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Speaker 1: do this. You know they're fat and mel athletic. Anyways, Off,

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Speaker 1: it's a lineman like that's they don't have a neck

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you, but I guess I want to

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Speaker 2: don't even know if I know the answer to this.

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Speaker 2: Why did you have the number sixty nine? Like as

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Speaker 2: a kid, we laughed at it all the time, but

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Speaker 3: So I was number forty one.

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Speaker 4: So I was number one in high school, right, and

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Speaker 4: my best friend was forty five, I bet when my

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Speaker 4: they gave me forty one in college. So I kept

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Speaker 4: it right, cool whatever, but back and then you know

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Speaker 4: a certain number set right, and I'll pick They gave

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Speaker 4: me sixty nine, right, And there was another you know

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Speaker 4: I'm like, GEESEU, this doesn't farewell one of.

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Speaker 4: A lot of people think like, oh, I had all

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Speaker 4: I'm like the only you know, being a California kid

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Speaker 4: I got to meet Snoop Dogg, like once or twice

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Speaker 1: Come on, come on. Snoop is the only person that's

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Speaker 1: been like deemed the unk for the last forty years.

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Speaker 2: It's like it's like when he was twenty, he looked

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Speaker 1: I haven't been able to.

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Speaker 3: And on everything, on everything, and that's the one guy

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Speaker 2: Loved him as the ambassador to the to the Olympics,

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Speaker 1: I was like, this is this is so, but we're

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Speaker 2: You and my dad have kicked it, bro Like you know,

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Speaker 4: You know I used to half Yeah, no, I never

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Speaker 4: So that we stole that and then you know, I

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Speaker 4: and so yeah, you know I got obviously be with Minnesota.

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Speaker 3: Your dad's a big name you know there.

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Speaker 4: Uh well, I mean again when I was playing you know,

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Speaker 3: It was about just having fun and good times.

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Speaker 4: And so your dad's company at Ryans, the company actually

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Speaker 4: enjoyed talking him. Did your dad become one of my

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Speaker 4: playing in the eighties, you know what I mean was

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Speaker 4: is inspiring across the board for Everybody's just a cool dude.

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Speaker 1: No yeah, just a stud and then just a freaking stud.

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Speaker 2: Like you know how many kids it takes to create

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Speaker 4: So I was still down them.

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Speaker 1: There for that.

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Speaker 4: I you know, like Jerry West was like the icon

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Speaker 4: of the the NBA is what it is supposed to be, right,

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Speaker 4: Like you have a great career and then you're successful

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Speaker 3: You know, it's awesome.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, you put yourself in the mold. You're freaking

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Speaker 2: you freaking have a ranch. You were like a ranch hype.

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Speaker 2: In fact, how do you go from you know, finishing

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Speaker 2: up in Carolina to going and living in Arizona? To

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Speaker 4: So Arizona was always two thousand and I think six.

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Speaker 4: I move Arizona is my off season base right was

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Speaker 4: in two thousand and nine. We have married twenty ten,

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Speaker 4: when we did, right when I went after I left

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Speaker 3: Went to Chicago. Chicago was was a dumpty. I was

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Speaker 3: the only time I took the money. I took the money.

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Speaker 3: Should have just retired. Blew my L five out right.

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Speaker 3: It was like, oh my goodness.

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Speaker 4: And then so I asked him to tram me to

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Speaker 4: Carolina my last year, knowing I was going to retire.

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Speaker 4: Gets Carolina first for Little No Joe.

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Speaker 3: Saturday walked the.

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Speaker 4: Were getting ready to go to play Tampa rookie quarterback,

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Speaker 4: my dad, I'm about to eat this dude live walked through. Bam,

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Speaker 3: And you know, we we've been wanting seasons anyways or

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Speaker 3: I'm about to punch somebody, like like we all got

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Speaker 1: That's that's that. I don't know where these kids are

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and we work, right, we still whether it's in

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Speaker 4: Kids, like listen, we don't have anti and if people's

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Speaker 1: But let me, I got so off topic. That's that's

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Speaker 2: I did talk to Peanut Tilban and Big Heart, and

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Speaker 2: You know, it's called twenty fifteen and just said see

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Speaker 3: Thomas Davis was a listen as a Christian.

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Speaker 4: I'm all for prayer anywhere, but sometimes you can't be

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Oh, no, you gotta get,

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Speaker 3: He just goes. So we have this rehearse you know,

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Speaker 4: Basically takes some Thomas Davis would take some, uh some

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Speaker 3: For us, who could be against us? Those times thing

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Speaker 4: I love Pianis and Peanut I were in Chicago together too,

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Speaker 4: right and uh Rome always used to remind me that,

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Speaker 3: My Super Bowl ring.

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Speaker 4: Uh when because good old New Orleans Saints and back

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Speaker 4: I lost like nineteen pounds in like a in like

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Speaker 4: that year. It suck not to win the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: We talked about being humbled. That was one of those years,

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Speaker 4: you you expect there to stay at a level that is.

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Speaker 4: It's that you expect, right, you don't play it anybody

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Speaker 4: don't the standard of your team. You played your standard.

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Speaker 4: And you know, it was frustrated my last my last

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Speaker 3: Iye game necessary, but it.

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Speaker 4: Was humbling because it was like statistically one of my

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Speaker 3: You know, I got to play in the super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: It was great.

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Speaker 4: And that's why you know, Carolina will always hold you know,

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Speaker 3: I never came out. I came in. I was like

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Speaker 4: I got to get these sac numbers up to help us,

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Speaker 3: Have anybody at setting edgines like this right now. And

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Speaker 4: You get so caught up in what the flashy stuff is,

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Speaker 4: and sometimes you have a role to play and sometimes

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Speaker 4: you know it ain't the role you want to play, right,

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Speaker 4: But we're winning games and you know.

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Speaker 3: So you know, Carolina was great, Thomas Davids was great.

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Speaker 3: Room was my guy. Peanut freaking joined the FBI like

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Speaker 1: And he showed he showed you that edge run play.

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Speaker 3: That was I was never gonna be that heavy, right, That's.

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Speaker 1: Good for you, bro. Look this year happened for me.

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Speaker 1: This year like, hey, third down, go go rush against

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Speaker 4: No, no, no.

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Speaker 2: In fact, Russia gets the Russian gets the center. We're

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Right, Like, all all I've done is ever whooped everybody

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Speaker 4: three technique the seventies like a d tackle these days.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're if you're Aaron Donald.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well that's that's a whole other beast right there. Now.

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Speaker 2: They keep the Vitaves, the Vitavese, the dexter Lawrences, the

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I love seeing Chris Jones.

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Speaker 4: And the dude, dude, dude gets to the quarterback, he

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Speaker 3: I used to hate when we would go our nickel.

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Speaker 4: Package right and then we go green and have two

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Speaker 3: I was like, I used to love a big dukie.

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Speaker 3: Pat Williams was right there on the nose.

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Speaker 1: Williams wall.

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Speaker 3: You know I played with big He's gonna get three

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Speaker 3: yards deep. Nobody now and now the guard has to

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Speaker 3: respect him. And if the guard comes to me, he's

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Speaker 3: gonna win. If not, I got a one on one.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm a big fan of keeping the big

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Speaker 2: Keep the big guys. Look, you don't need four dancing bears.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes you need a ward hog or two.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, push that big ass pocket and guess what. The

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Speaker 3: I used to tell the the de Tagle all the time.

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Speaker 4: I said, if you get three yards deep every pass

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Speaker 4: get your five sacks.

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Speaker 3: He's three five sacks. I'll chase him right to you.

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Speaker 1: They gonna step up in yours.

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Speaker 3: You start thinking yourself, then you're not and you get

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Speaker 3: my way. We're gonna have a problem every.

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Speaker 1: And every year.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna get a detacle like oh, I like to

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Speaker 2: actually you're six yards up the field, bro, I didn't

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I need I need interior rushers to be three to

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Speaker 1: And I need and I need you to go ahead

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Speaker 1: and stop the screens. That's your job.

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Speaker 4: So uh yeah, I think the game the game shifted

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Speaker 4: either so many hybrids now there's so many this, but

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Speaker 4: getting you know, I like, I like what Denver did

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Speaker 4: this year, right, you know, and they got it. They

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Speaker 2: Zach Zach Taylor, Yeah, yeah, Zach Zach Allen, Right, yeah, Allen,

442
00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:33,399
Speaker 2: what does that?

443
00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:37,840
Speaker 3: Zach Zach Allen, Yeah DJ. I like DJ from the standpoint,

444
00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:38,680
Speaker 3: like he can do it both.

445
00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:40,200
Speaker 4: But he's another one of those old school kind of

446
00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,640
Speaker 4: nose tackles, right, you know, he actually played for three.

447
00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:45,920
Speaker 3: He's that interior d lineman that that's what he does.

448
00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:46,119
Speaker 1: You know.

449
00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,320
Speaker 3: Zach's kind of could flex a little bit I think

450
00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:49,120
Speaker 3: in modern day.

451
00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,159
Speaker 4: But then yeah, but you got guys like Nick Benito

452
00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:54,359
Speaker 4: who know they're roy they are going to come off

453
00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,520
Speaker 4: the edge, and I think that's you saw me. You know,

454
00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:58,760
Speaker 4: they got sixty three SASH this year. And when I

455
00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:02,560
Speaker 4: watched their film, guy knew their role in their responsibilities

456
00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,800
Speaker 4: in the past Rush game and that's in you know,

457
00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:08,080
Speaker 4: a good a good solid interior allows your your your

458
00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:08,720
Speaker 4: edge guys to.

459
00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:10,879
Speaker 3: Have two way go. You're freaking absolutely has a two

460
00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:14,240
Speaker 3: way go. You're good. At some point you're killing a tackle.

461
00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,760
Speaker 2: Jonathan Cooper on the other side going crazy, like you

462
00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:22,000
Speaker 2: look up and it's it's, you know, thirteen sacks one side,

463
00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:24,040
Speaker 2: eleven sacks the other side.

464
00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:26,760
Speaker 1: Six sacks in the middle like the eight sacks. They're

465
00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:30,000
Speaker 1: like you just you can piece together quite time.

466
00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:31,920
Speaker 3: And that's and that's the thing. And that's and that's

467
00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:33,439
Speaker 3: where coaches kind of got it. You got to get

468
00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:34,520
Speaker 3: the way. That's why I love Jamarking.

469
00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:36,600
Speaker 4: So I was able to not just this year, the

470
00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,000
Speaker 4: year before I did it, Uh just some consulting with

471
00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:42,560
Speaker 4: Denver and and it was it was really cool. I got,

472
00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:44,680
Speaker 4: you know, work with Jamar and Mike will Hoyt and

473
00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:49,040
Speaker 4: those guys, and and you know, even you know, talking

474
00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:52,080
Speaker 4: with coaches given the player perspective, is you know, really

475
00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,640
Speaker 4: allowing because somebody coaches too, they want to get into

476
00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:55,159
Speaker 4: this this.

477
00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,080
Speaker 3: Aspect of like, well we got to push the middle.

478
00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:58,720
Speaker 4: We got a cajuble on the outside, especially in this

479
00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:00,680
Speaker 4: I mean, you know better than me, We didn't have

480
00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,639
Speaker 4: that many mobile quarterbacks when I when I was playing right. Uh,

481
00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:08,000
Speaker 4: this whole era of crazy athletic quarterbacks, I think coaches

482
00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:10,160
Speaker 4: kind of they they chase ghosts and they get scared

483
00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:11,760
Speaker 4: and they don't they don't allow their guys to take

484
00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,280
Speaker 4: their shot. So that's why it's so important to have

485
00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:16,520
Speaker 4: guys on the same page and have middle push that

486
00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,320
Speaker 4: you see color replace color. But you gotta allow your

487
00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,000
Speaker 4: talented guys to have two way goes.

488
00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:22,040
Speaker 3: You got allowed to throw.

489
00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:24,840
Speaker 4: Otherwise you get into these things where these quarterbacks are

490
00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:26,760
Speaker 4: too good that they can scramble, they can pat the ball,

491
00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:27,960
Speaker 4: they can just tear you apart.

492
00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:28,720
Speaker 3: It hurts you.

493
00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:30,560
Speaker 1: It hurts you in the ground and in the air.

494
00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,080
Speaker 2: Then you're just sitting there stuck. We gotta we got

495
00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:34,760
Speaker 2: to cage them, but he's killing us in the air.

496
00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,040
Speaker 2: But we gotta get after him, but he's killing us

497
00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:37,520
Speaker 2: with his feet.

498
00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, you get coach ever told me I would?

499
00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:42,119
Speaker 4: Oh man, it was dang or a fight you If

500
00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:43,600
Speaker 4: I heard the word cage rush come out of some

501
00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,159
Speaker 4: coaches mouth on the sidelines, you always then why am

502
00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:46,399
Speaker 4: I here?

503
00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:48,719
Speaker 3: You want a cage rush? Go get me gags.

504
00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,280
Speaker 1: Look, I was. I was okay with them, Like, yo,

505
00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:52,440
Speaker 1: I'm a power rusher.

506
00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,119
Speaker 2: Anyways, throw age, okay, cage rush because I'm on the

507
00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,439
Speaker 2: left side and i'm and we're facing a right handed quarterback.

508
00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,560
Speaker 1: I get it. But you gotta let the other court,

509
00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,080
Speaker 1: the other defensive be and go eat then.

510
00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, if he's right right handed quarterback, that means

511
00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:05,359
Speaker 2: that the guy on the other side got to be

512
00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:06,360
Speaker 2: able to have the inside movie.

513
00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:07,920
Speaker 3: Did you know that you also got to earn the

514
00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:09,520
Speaker 3: right to miss right? You got to earn the right.

515
00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,200
Speaker 4: I tell people all the time, the difference between greatness

516
00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,879
Speaker 4: and failure this much. I actually got a chance, and

517
00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:18,920
Speaker 4: the only reason I'm considered great is because I made

518
00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,440
Speaker 4: the plays. If I missed him, I probably would have

519
00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:21,920
Speaker 4: washed out.

520
00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,720
Speaker 2: But hey, that's tell guys all the time, like, hey, pressures,

521
00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:26,400
Speaker 2: pressures are cool.

522
00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,840
Speaker 1: Sacks will come, but if they don't, and all you

523
00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:29,800
Speaker 1: are is a pressure guy.

524
00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,080
Speaker 3: Have you seen some of these stats they make?

525
00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:37,720
Speaker 1: They love they love the pressure, led the pressures every year.

526
00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:38,520
Speaker 1: What does that do for you?

527
00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,440
Speaker 4: The guy has three sacks, but he's led the league.

528
00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,560
Speaker 4: He's the number one defensive player for pressures, QB hits

529
00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,880
Speaker 4: and attempted sacks. I'm like, jeez, get out of here.

530
00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:49,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, and that's a stat that nobody

531
00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,720
Speaker 1: will care about when he's done playing, right.

532
00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:53,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely absolutely.

533
00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,480
Speaker 4: It's it's amazing how they find ways to, uh to

534
00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:57,880
Speaker 4: create hype on some of these guys.

535
00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:00,720
Speaker 2: Now, I feel like Brad Pitt and he was when

536
00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:02,960
Speaker 2: he was Achilles, like, and that's why nobody else will

537
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,000
Speaker 2: remember your name, precious.

538
00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:07,960
Speaker 1: QB is like, did you get them down? Yes or no?

539
00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,920
Speaker 1: Like we can talk about the theory of getting them down,

540
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:12,000
Speaker 1: but like, that's what that is.

541
00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,720
Speaker 4: Theory one hundred percent. Yeah, you got to get that's

542
00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,479
Speaker 4: step one. But eventually you got it, you gotta make

543
00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,639
Speaker 4: it happen. And that's why I'm you know, and I

544
00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:23,440
Speaker 4: look at guys, you know you rush, especially these top

545
00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:30,440
Speaker 4: guys that rushing.

546
00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:27,919
Speaker 1: Crazy this year.

547
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,240
Speaker 4: A lot of these top guys are on the left.

548
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:34,160
Speaker 4: That's my probably my only point I don't like about

549
00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,120
Speaker 4: some of these top tier guys. Go to the right side,

550
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,000
Speaker 4: go with the best tackle and let's see what Let's

551
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:40,600
Speaker 4: see what happens.

552
00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:41,840
Speaker 2: I don't know if I don't know if they're the

553
00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:46,200
Speaker 2: best tackles anymore. Honestly, no, I agree with you. And honestly,

554
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:47,960
Speaker 2: now look at the right ends, like you sort of

555
00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 2: had it easy. Like are you like if you're on

556
00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:51,080
Speaker 2: if you're.

557
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 1: On the left, you're a left d or whatever. Whatever.

558
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 2: You go against their left tackle. You're right in and

559
00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:57,879
Speaker 2: you're going against the better tackle. You're also in the

560
00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,200
Speaker 2: quarterbacks blind spot. Yeah, he doesn't see you at all.

561
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,399
Speaker 3: That's that's that's why I love us. That's how I

562
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:04,320
Speaker 3: got put over there. Right.

563
00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 4: That's back in the day, they're like, the best tackle

564
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:07,880
Speaker 4: is going to be on the black spot. You want

565
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:09,440
Speaker 4: to be the best, you gotta go against the best.

566
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,080
Speaker 4: I you know, I see you know, guys kind of

567
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:17,240
Speaker 4: move around, you know, stuff like that. Yeah, you know again,

568
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:17,720
Speaker 4: you're right.

569
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 3: The tackle play though it is not the same. It's

570
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 3: not the same you first came in either, uh and

571
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:23,680
Speaker 3: so I.

572
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,520
Speaker 4: But it's it's funny to see the shift because when

573
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 4: I was when I was in the league, I mean,

574
00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 4: everybody who was in.

575
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,320
Speaker 3: The top tier was the right end.

576
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:30,959
Speaker 4: Right.

577
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,720
Speaker 3: It's flopped. Now almost everybody in the top tier is

578
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,480
Speaker 3: a left end. Yeah, right, so I.

579
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 4: So I then I argue, I wonder, you know, you know,

580
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,119
Speaker 4: Trent Williams is probably still the only true solid like

581
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 4: left tackle from from from from you know, back in

582
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,440
Speaker 4: the day a little bit. But yeah, maybe maybe that,

583
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,720
Speaker 4: maybe that maybe they're with these mobile quarterbacks and shift,

584
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 4: they're putting the best players, you know, they put the

585
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 4: best players.

586
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 3: They're putting the best player on the.

587
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 4: Right now because the right ends or left ends might

588
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 4: be getting more one on ones because now they know

589
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 4: the quarterbacks can see them and they're gone anyway, So

590
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 4: what do they care about their blind side?

591
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta don't have worry about the black side's

592
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 2: about to be out of here.

593
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 1: He can't get the ball off of the first second read.

594
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:06,680
Speaker 1: He's gone anyways.

595
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:08,399
Speaker 4: Because you look at you go back and look at

596
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 4: Philly what Lane Johnson was kind of their all pro.

597
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,200
Speaker 4: He was the right he was the right tackle.

598
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 1: Right.

599
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, interesting, that's interesting.

600
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 4: I gotta take a look at that because I think

601
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 4: maybe the dynamics shift and that's why you're seeing the

602
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:20,360
Speaker 4: top guys over on the left.

603
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 1: As quarterbacks to get more mobile.

604
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,120
Speaker 2: You don't need you like you gotta if you gotta

605
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:26,879
Speaker 2: just the guy on the on the uh, you know,

606
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,159
Speaker 2: protect the blind side. That's fine because he got his

607
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 2: first three second read out. Yeah, you got guys that

608
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 2: can make it work.

609
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:34,439
Speaker 3: Hey, I guess then you want your best.

610
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 4: You want your best, and then you're gonna wat your

611
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,439
Speaker 4: best pass usure in his in his vision, right right,

612
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:39,680
Speaker 4: You're gonna want him looking at you.

613
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 3: That makes sense. That that's football. The game is always changing.

614
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:45,920
Speaker 1: Look, it's always evolving.

615
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 2: We'll be right back. You're nine years out now, about

616
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 2: to be ten years out. That's crazy to think about.

617
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 2: In the history of the NFL. I looked up, it's

618
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:58,200
Speaker 2: just you and one. You know one Arizona uh one,

619
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 2: Arizona native Terrell's US. They have over one hundred and

620
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 2: you know, one hundred and thirty something sacks. You know

621
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 2: you ad one thirty six has got to be somewhere

622
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,399
Speaker 2: around there on thirty eight ish. You two are the

623
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,920
Speaker 2: only ones above one hundred and thirty without the h

624
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 2: o F.

625
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:14,160
Speaker 1: When does it call it? Your name?

626
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 3: Oh Man?

627
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 4: To be honest with you, I thought I should have

628
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 4: been in. Yeah, I should have been in three years ago.

629
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 4: You know I've been since I was eligible. I've been

630
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 4: a finalist. This is my fifth time as a finalist.

631
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 4: I know Troell sucks.

632
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 3: He's a finalist this year is his first year is eligibility.

633
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 3: I don't know why.

634
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 4: I don't know why they haven't putting in. Dude, be honestly,

635
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,879
Speaker 4: I tell them all the time. I'm like, it clearly

636
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:35,920
Speaker 4: isn't because of my numbers. So I probably pised somebody

637
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 4: off along the way. You can't say that to me,

638
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 4: So I be honest. I thought I was gonna go

639
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,400
Speaker 4: in my second year. I was pretty bumped. I didn't

640
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,200
Speaker 4: get to go in uh third year, especially like me

641
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 4: and where the markets were, I have pretty much identical careers.

642
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 4: And then so he went on his second ballot, freeing

643
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 4: who I my numbers are. I got more numbers less.

644
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:54,160
Speaker 3: Time than him.

645
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 4: He went in a second ballot. Somehow I was sitting

646
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 4: around in my fifth ballot. All the great players, I think.

647
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 4: That's my My beef with the Hall is like they

648
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 4: they make you start kind of like second guessing, and

649
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,880
Speaker 4: you're like, well, hold I played, I've been out ten years.

650
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 4: There's nothing I can do about it, right, I'm right,

651
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 4: one more season yourself. Like I'm a massive fan of

652
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 4: Julius Pepers, I'm a massive fan of all these guys.

653
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 4: There are great players, you know, But the reality is

654
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 4: when I played. Nobody had more sex than me in

655
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 4: the twelve years I played.

656
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 3: And so it's hard. It's hard.

657
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 4: It's hard to understand why I'm not in yet. But

658
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 4: hopefully this will be the year. If not, but at

659
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 4: the end of the day, you know that's not the

660
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,119
Speaker 4: reason I played. I truly played this game for the

661
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 4: respect of my peers and the respect of those who

662
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 4: played before me. So you know, sitting here talking with

663
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 4: you and and then you know you have the unique

664
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 4: perspective of having it of a dad who's in the

665
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 4: Ring of Honor of Minnesota and being able to talk

666
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 4: to guys like your dad and then tell me, hey,

667
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 4: Jared played the game right like that means more than

668
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 4: me than any gold jacket, whether any.

669
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 3: For the people believe or not.

670
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 4: I mean, the Hall of Fame is one of the

671
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 4: greatest honors you could ever have. I'd be I would

672
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,119
Speaker 4: wear that thing with honor. But at the end of

673
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 4: the day, I'm not kissing the ring. I'm not playing

674
00:25:58,119 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 4: the political game.

675
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:00,879
Speaker 3: If my if my, if my the.

676
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 4: Product I put on the field, if it doesn't stand

677
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:04,880
Speaker 4: the test of time, or you don't think I'm good enough,

678
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 4: then just.

679
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 3: Say that, right, Let it be what it's gonna be.

680
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 3: Don't put me in the files, that's fine. But if

681
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 3: it is, put me in, let's stop playing this song

682
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 3: and dance because I'm.

683
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 1: Not I'm not playing the right Stop playing me.

684
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, you know what I mean?

685
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 4: Like my number speak for themselves and again sugs, you know,

686
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 4: but he had seventeen years something like that, right, you know,

687
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 4: I was big on my average.

688
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 3: And you know, they don't really give you criteria. That's

689
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 3: the thing that frustrate you. They don't tell you really

690
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,640
Speaker 3: why you don't make it right? You do criteria.

691
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 4: I've heard things from like, oh, if you would have played,

692
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 4: you know, a couple more years and had four more sacks,

693
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 4: you would have walked in first ballot. And for me,

694
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 4: my my average, I was actually pissed. I dropped below

695
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,159
Speaker 4: twelve a year. So I but it's probably not the

696
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,880
Speaker 4: right thing, but it's a great motivation. Got their Cunningham gods.

697
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 4: So when I came to the league, he was like, hey,

698
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,360
Speaker 4: Derek Thomas average twelve sacks a year. You aren't worth

699
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 4: your salt unless you average twelve sacks a year as

700
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,400
Speaker 4: a rookie. So you know, now you got a rookie,

701
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 4: he allly cares about to get into the quarterback. So

702
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 4: but that's how I measured myself. And I just I

703
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 4: you know, I cared so much about making sure I

704
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 4: was in that you know, that rough of that twelve

705
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 4: sac of year average. And then again just you know,

706
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 4: with the injuries. You know, I played in the Super

707
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 4: Bowl and bust and foot busted my l five twice.

708
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 3: But you know, no one really knows about those things

709
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 3: because I kept playing.

710
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 4: I played through them, and I believe that, if you know,

711
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 4: seventy percent of me was better than the guy behind me.

712
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 4: And that's kind of the other thing that it's hard

713
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 4: for me to look at some of these guys that

714
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 4: you know, I still got a torn pack. I played

715
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 4: nine with a complete torn pack. You know, guys that

716
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 4: missed full seasons. You know, with some of these injuries

717
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,199
Speaker 4: that that I've played through, I mean, teach their own, uh.

718
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 4: I just you know, maybe maybe that's maybe that maybe

719
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 4: that's maybe some smarter than me. I probably would have

720
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 4: got fixed up. I could have had one hundred fifty

721
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame already.

722
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 1: You just took a couple of weeks off. No, I don't,

723
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: I don't know nothing. I don't know.

724
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 3: I hope we get it.

725
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 4: I love is one of my favorite guys. You know,

726
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,959
Speaker 4: like I said, he uh, another issue guy. I used

727
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 4: to I used to love watching him play in college.

728
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 4: I'll give you, I'll give you guys we want here.

729
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 3: One of the funniest Trell Sugg stories there. It's not

730
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 3: even him were we were. It was one of his friends.

731
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 3: We were on up we were all planing on to

732
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 3: Hawaii and about you.

733
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 4: Know, Hawaiian airlines non stop from Phoenix to to Honolulu,

734
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,959
Speaker 4: and uh, we're sitting in first class and so they

735
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 4: come around with the pog juice.

736
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 3: You know, you give you those pog juice when you

737
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 3: get on the plane.

738
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 4: And one of his buddies was sitting behind me, and

739
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 4: so he goes, excuse me, ma'm can I get a

740
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 4: vodka vodka cranberry and sen bras of Abka cranberry. And

741
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 4: he goes to pay and she said, she said, oh no,

742
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 4: the drinks are complimentary up here. And his to the

743
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 4: amount of excitement this dude got was like hey, he

744
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 4: started yelling to his buddies up with the other foot across.

745
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 4: You know, we were like the back left the first

746
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 4: class literally front right, the first left.

747
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 3: Hey yo, hey yo dog, the vodka cranberries are free

748
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 3: up there.

749
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: At all party, A tall party. Yeah yeah, it's just

750
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 1: I was like.

751
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 3: Man, he was so excited. I'm ordered about the tripp.

752
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: I have I have what He's happy? Hell yeah, oh man,

753
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: I was.

754
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 4: I was dying laughing and Suck just sitting there shaking

755
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 4: his head, cracking up, smiling his buddy. I mean, he

756
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 4: was elated. I was like that, that's what that should be.

757
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 4: Everybody should have that same joy with her flying first class.

758
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, So you guys were that's back when the

759
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl was in Hawaii.

760
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 4: That was good.

761
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I caught that. I think I caught the laugh.

762
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 2: My first two Pro Bowls were in Hawaii.

763
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 3: So when was your first one?

764
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: And so he was, ay been thirteen, So that's the

765
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: day they did.

766
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 3: They did thirteen sven or twelve one of them.

767
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: One of them I think fourteen was Arizona.

768
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 4: But yeah, let then came back so we went to Orlando,

769
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 4: I think in like that nine ten, so that ten

770
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 4: Super Bowl or was sorry, I was down in Fort Lauderdale,

771
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,239
Speaker 4: Miami Pro Bowl the first year they moved it from

772
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 4: Hawaii it was a miserable fail.

773
00:29:58,240 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 3: And then they moved it back to Hawaii.

774
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: Miami. Miami can't be a miserable.

775
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 4: Fan, Dude, don't because they didn't get They didn't so

776
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 4: they didn't run out the entire hotel and guys were

777
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 4: no joke. We had dudes coming from the club to

778
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 4: the game. It was like the NFL sent like four

779
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 4: people home that year. It was just like, right goal

780
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 4: back Hawaii. So I played at twelve and then I

781
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 4: think you're right, I think thirteen and then fourteen.

782
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 2: Thirteen, thirteen was for sure Hawaii because I was like,

783
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm here. I was like, yes, yes,

784
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 2: and then fifteen had fifteen season. I think like the

785
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 2: next year, I think they went to Arizona, or maybe

786
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 2: the year before that they went to Arizona and then

787
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 2: came back to Hawaii and my son was born.

788
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, I've finally done it.

789
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 1: Pop took me to Pops with me to Hawaii when

790
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 1: he made the Pro Bowl. I took my son Hawaii

791
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 1: would make the Pro Bowl. This is awesome, like this

792
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: full circle.

793
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 4: I made my first trip ever. I waited, I love joke,

794
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 4: never went to Hawaii and telling me the Pro Bowl,

795
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 4: so that without all By went to Hawaii and then

796
00:30:58,400 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 4: I got to.

797
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 3: Bring my daughter. You know, she was three months all

798
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 3: I got the bringer over the few times it.

799
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: Was like, right, we'll be back in a minute.

800
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, this Hall of Fame situation,

801
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 2: is it you have to go to like the hotel

802
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 2: and then like if it's knock on the door.

803
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 3: I got lucky in that, so COVID they ended that. Man,

804
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 3: no joke.

805
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 4: I was at the Super Bowl, so they used to

806
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 4: bring the top fifteen out and they would praye you

807
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 4: around like you were basically game all week. I mean

808
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 4: you and your wife all dressed up, ready to go

809
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 4: to the ceremony, and then you get if you either

810
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 4: get the knock or the call, and get the call,

811
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 4: you pack it up and hit the hit the road, right.

812
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 4: And I mean I watched these guys on the plane

813
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 4: just like dejected or something like that. That's not honoring

814
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 4: and that's my problem, right, they're not. It starts out

815
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 4: this big Arnham at the final fifteen. They've already way,

816
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 4: they already cut the ten, so there's five people automatically

817
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 4: don't even get to get voted off.

818
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 2: Right.

819
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 4: Then in that ten, they cut you, then they cut

820
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 4: to the final five, and then they do the updown

821
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 4: vote for seventy percent, right, and so it's like, you know,

822
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,959
Speaker 4: they really could, in my opinion, could just have five finalists, right,

823
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 4: and be like Baseball and then be transparent. Either get

824
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 4: seventy percent of the vote or you don't. Right, you

825
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 4: can put a baseball. You can put as many in

826
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 4: as you want or as little end as you want.

827
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 4: So I think what happens is you get to this

828
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 4: point where you guys are being celebrated and then it's

829
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 4: this axe and then they just kind of disregard you

830
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 4: after you're not and you just kind of get disregarded

831
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 4: and they ask you to kind of carry on the

832
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 4: ruse until, you know, until the NFL Honors show, and

833
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 4: you're like, man, it's just it's not it's not a

834
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 4: way to honor guys career. And then and then you're

835
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 4: pitting guys like well then you're not know this that

836
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 4: you're just comparing guys to who you're fans of, who

837
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 4: you're probably friends with, and it's this this this kind

838
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 4: of this feeling.

839
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 3: Of like, man, you look for me.

840
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: You made a pseudo war out of it.

841
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, it's like and then you get you get guys.

842
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 4: You know again, it's it kind of takes the stinger

843
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 4: away from me, Like again, I I think about the

844
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame for the couple of weeks on the

845
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 4: Finalist and then afterwards, if you know, the last year,

846
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 4: I haven't been mad.

847
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 3: I'm like, then I'm pissed. I'm like, why am I

848
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 3: even pissed? I don't There's nothing I can do about it.

849
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 3: Who cares? I go out living my life right. My

850
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 3: kids are still gonna love me, and my wife loves me.

851
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 3: I still got churst to dude. Nothing my life and change.

852
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 4: And but you know, it's just sad because it really

853
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 4: you take that, you take this stands where you should

854
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 4: be honoring these guys, and there's a moment where it

855
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 4: becomes almost like just a show or or you guys

856
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 4: that just feel so rejected.

857
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 3: And they shouldn't have to feel that way. And so,

858
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 3: you know, and I get it.

859
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 4: It's it's not everybody gets in, and not everybody, but

860
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 4: at some point, you know, six seven, eight, nine times

861
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 4: in the finals, like come on, if you keep putting

862
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,719
Speaker 4: the guy that just put them in, nothing's changing all

863
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 4: you're doing is telling me is you're waiting for the

864
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 4: You're waiting for someone who you deem weaker than me

865
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 4: for me to surpass. That's all right, right, all right

866
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 4: now you're the cute girl amongst the ugly people.

867
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: All right now you're now you're we like this class. Yeah,

868
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: no doubt.

869
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 4: Ah. But at the end of the day, it is

870
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 4: what it is, and uh it's it's a great honor

871
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 4: to be in the finals. It's a great honor to

872
00:33:55,840 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 4: be considered. Uh again, my my, my true, my true

873
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 4: elation comes from when when guys that that I Revere

874
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 4: is some of the best players ever, you know, tell

875
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 4: me I did it right, Or when I'm talking to

876
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 4: you know, you know, guys like you were, guys that

877
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 4: I played against other world linemen, my name comes up

878
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,439
Speaker 4: and they just knew there was a lunch panial type

879
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 4: of day when they had to play me, you know.

880
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 4: And why I don't have regrets. I could hang my

881
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 4: head high. I was never cut nothing like that. So

882
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 4: even though I didn't win the super Bowl, got to

883
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 4: experience it.

884
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: It is what it is.

885
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 2: I'll say, do you think that do you think that's

886
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 2: one of the things that holds you back is not

887
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 2: having a Super Bowl, which I think is a very

888
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 2: much quarterback winning.

889
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 4: Because you know, in the Super Bowl we lost, I

890
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 4: mean we held, we held the Broncos one hundred and

891
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 4: eighty six so many yards.

892
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 3: What more can I do? And this? And that's what

893
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 3: they told me.

894
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 4: So they put a where and they said where won

895
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl over you? I'm like, okay, you know,

896
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 4: but the next year it's like, okay, what's the excuse?

897
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 1: Now?

898
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, what's the next excuse? And so you know

899
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 4: they'll probably say, sugs, sugs meat me up for Defensive Player.

900
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: Of the Year.

901
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 2: So don't give it to that over Oh I remember

902
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 2: that that was That was the year you went for

903
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,879
Speaker 2: like twenty two to out, which I ain't.

904
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 3: What's real. I actually had twenty three.

905
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 4: Go back and look at I physically sacked Aaron Rodgers

906
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 4: for my twenty third sack, and then Wednesday they took

907
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 4: it away from me because they said he muffed the

908
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 4: ball and they gave it.

909
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 3: Back team sack, team sack.

910
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 2: I've seen two or three to lose my way for

911
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 2: the team sack, like I was the closest one too

912
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 2: when he was falling out of bounds. But team sack

913
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,399
Speaker 2: or I think I stripped the ball out of out

914
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 2: of Brett Hunley's hands, as he was a quarterback for

915
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 2: the Green Bay Packers and Alex Okafor had tackled him.

916
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 2: But I stripped the ball, so that's a strip sack

917
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 2: my way. I was like, I got the fumble and

918
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 2: he got the sack, and I said, what the.

919
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 3: Fuck, it's crazy, because dude, that's not how it used

920
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 3: to be. I actually lost the sack in. I think

921
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 3: it was like oh seven, maybe no six, same thing.

922
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 4: I had Philip Rivers or something like that wrapped up

923
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 4: Tombaholey comes in and punches the ball out.

924
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,439
Speaker 3: So back then, whoever forced the fumble got the full sack.

925
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 3: I had no joke. I have a half sack.

926
00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 4: So I actually shot one thirty seven and it thought

927
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 4: phil the Monday night football game, I had four and

928
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 4: a half agins Aaron Rodgers. Not only did I hit

929
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 4: him first, I stripped the ball and Brian Robinson comes

930
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 4: over and and and you know it finishes it off

931
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 4: I and we.

932
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: Run the ball.

933
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 3: They give me. They gave me a half sack. I

934
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 3: haven't turned it in.

935
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 1: They're like, sorry, this makes perfect sense. How how does

936
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 1: this make perfect sense? It does?

937
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 4: And you know the muff, the muff even when the

938
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 4: ball used to go over the quarterback's head and they

939
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 4: would fall down and whoever touched him would get it, would.

940
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 3: Get the sack.

941
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 4: Right now, it's a team sack. So the one with Aaron,

942
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,439
Speaker 4: he foots up in the in the pocket, he runs

943
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 4: in a new house, drops the ball, picks it back up,

944
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 4: rolls out.

945
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 3: He still can eligible throw the ball.

946
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 4: Right him with the ball, that's a sack. Nope, they

947
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 4: call it a They called it a muff team sack.

948
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 4: I'm like, but I physically tackled him, all right, He's

949
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 4: still gonna throw the ball. Technically I'm on the team,

950
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 4: so shul at least get half of that.

951
00:36:55,600 --> 00:37:00,919
Speaker 1: But don't go jeez. Is what it is, spilt milk,

952
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: I guess. But it's not.

953
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 4: Like you know, the gas unless you probably saw the

954
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 4: mare gasad Brett Favre confrontation.

955
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: You know, absolutely, I'm never gonna go that far with it.

956
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 3: I laugh about it is what it is.

957
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 4: I've gotten some stash that probably didn't deserve, you know,

958
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 4: or last year running out the back of the uh.

959
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 3: But some of but but that's what it is man,

960
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 3: It's it's crazy how much some of this stuff affects guys.

961
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 4: And then back to my whole take on the Hall

962
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 4: of Fame is lucky that again, I know, I know

963
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 4: where my identity is at right, my identities in Christ,

964
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 4: my family.

965
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:33,240
Speaker 3: All that stuff.

966
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 4: There's dudes out there that, man, this this means the

967
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 4: absolute world to them, and those highs and lows can

968
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:40,879
Speaker 4: be can be detrimental to their life.

969
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 3: And maybe that's not the Hall of Fame's responsibility. But

970
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 3: you don't have to pile on to it either.

971
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:46,959
Speaker 1: True.

972
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 2: True, I mean, eventually you're gonna get in there, and

973
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 2: I can't not see you getting in this year like

974
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 2: you and you and Sizzel should definitely leave that charge.

975
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 3: So it'll be finner than what they're gonna do it

976
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 3: this year. Right, right to go back to New Orleans.

977
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 2: Come on in, it's gonna be it's gonna be you,

978
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 2: it's gonna be Terressa, it's gonna be Jarry Evans, and

979
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 2: then we'll figure out the rest out.

980
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:11,800
Speaker 3: Every time I go back, you have to go to

981
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,919
Speaker 3: New Orleans. I'm like, man, freaking two thousand and nine,

982
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 3: freak hate this place.

983
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,439
Speaker 1: I had it. Come on y'all paid it back. Bike,

984
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: He's paid it back, like twice. You had a Kyle

985
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 1: Rudolph push off the back of the end something you

986
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 1: had Stephan Diggs surgeon. So being a wide receiver. Yeah,

987
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: Minnesota miracle. So that's two to one.

988
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

989
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 1: It doesn't affect me though, but it affected me, I know.

990
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I said, room lives to remind me, you

991
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 3: just keep my ring warm for me.

992
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 2: Man, that's at least. Yeah, Mike Is definitely didn't go

993
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 2: on to win it, so I was like, I'm cool

994
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 2: with it.

995
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:45,879
Speaker 1: Fine.

996
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,879
Speaker 3: Yeah. And then and then so Sean calls me Peyton

997
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 3: literally after the game, right he called me.

998
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 4: Uh so was Sunday nights, So we called me like

999
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 4: Monday or Tuesday, and he's like, hey, you know what

1000
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 4: we did? Chip blocking you those wire off schemes, Like

1001
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 4: you think that will work against s Freeny and all

1002
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 4: those guys, blah blah blah blah. I'm like, sh You're

1003
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 4: lucky we have friends because I want to put you

1004
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 4: in the throat right now. But yes, do what you

1005
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 4: did to me and you win the super Bowl and

1006
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 4: sure not.

1007
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 2: There they did absolutely yeah, Lee, Yeah they did. Man,

1008
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 2: I couldn't I couldn't imagine. I've always wanted to know

1009
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:17,919
Speaker 2: what it feels like just even be on the same

1010
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 2: field for a chance to win a Super Bowls Honors

1011
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 2: NFC Championship, and I'm like.

1012
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 1: Damn, that was dope. Yeah, one more game.

1013
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 3: I almost feel like the super Bowl was was dope, right,

1014
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 3: it was.

1015
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:29,959
Speaker 1: It was cool.

1016
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 4: You know, you get that kind of feeling like you're there,

1017
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 4: so a lot of the kind of excitement just kind

1018
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 4: of dreams because you're there right right.

1019
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 3: You know, the great teams are like, we're there to

1020
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 3: win it.

1021
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 4: But the NFC AFC, the two NFC Championship games have

1022
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 4: been too I mean the one I lost obviously, when

1023
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 4: I won, I mean, losing the NFC Championship is worse

1024
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 4: than losing the super Bowl because at least you're there,

1025
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 4: and the NFC Championship, you're like, hold up, I was

1026
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 4: one game away from the super Bowl and now.

1027
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 3: I'm twenty games away from the super Bowl again.

1028
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 2: Just like that, and you know, sucks, yeah, or you

1029
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 2: may not make the playoffs again, like you don't know, yeah, and.

1030
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 3: You and you're a loyalist, man, You're stuck just sticking

1031
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 3: with those sects.

1032
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: I love them. I love them, and so they don't

1033
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: love me no more. I love him. Yeah, damn yeah,

1034
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: it is what it is. So I hope I hope

1035
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:24,399
Speaker 1: we get there next year.

1036
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 2: You know.

1037
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys, you know, quarterback matters.

1038
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Quarterbacks do? Quarterbacks? Quarterbacks definitely do.

1039
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 2: It'd be even greater to have them all seventeen games

1040
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 2: now half a season and a half a season.

1041
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys, you guys, you guys have been hit

1042
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 3: by that injury bug. Huge question and what sucks.

1043
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 4: And I was telling someone out the other day, it's like,

1044
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 4: you know, you got you really have like these four

1045
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 4: to five you know, year blocks, right, and the good

1046
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,399
Speaker 4: teams know how to you know, elongate that through draft

1047
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 4: picks and make sure they got young guys and keeping

1048
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 4: that and keeping a veteran culture.

1049
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 3: But I mean, you guys got what's gosh, I just

1050
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 3: went blank on the running backs name dude Kamara.

1051
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, stupid stupid athlete, right, I mean, dudes A but

1052
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 4: be honest, you know, and again not you know, I

1053
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 4: don't get to see a lot of in New Orleands games,

1054
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 4: but I would argue, you know, in the last four

1055
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,320
Speaker 4: or five years, of his career have been not I

1056
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 4: don't want to say wasted, because they've never wasted because

1057
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 4: you're you're still bulling, but you don't say that.

1058
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean, they're not capitalized upon.

1059
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 4: They're not capitalized on, right because you're like, Okay, now,

1060
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, when we get when we get

1061
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 4: by parts of this dude who's so dynamic is you know,

1062
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 4: pushing thirty thirty one, thirty two, thirty three, and you

1063
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 4: know we didn't capitalize.

1064
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 3: On the years we had one of the most dynamic players.

1065
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:36,919
Speaker 1: In the game.

1066
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, but when you had paired him with the Mike

1067
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 2: Thomas and you know, then you had paired him with

1068
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 2: Drew Brees that last you know, in the last two years,

1069
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 2: you're like you see everything that you can see yeaheah.

1070
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 4: It's a I always say when when guys have a

1071
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 4: dip or anything like that, it's usually because there's there's

1072
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 4: a coaching or culture change and you're just not being

1073
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 4: used in the way. But and then you're the anomaly,

1074
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 4: right at fourteen years still out there.

1075
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 3: Did it because people?

1076
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, but even even those educates you thinking about your defense,

1077
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 4: Like even in Minnesota, I mean we had an insane defense,

1078
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 4: right and you know at that, you know, we had

1079
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 4: that four or five year stretch and then all of

1080
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 4: a sudden, injury bugs and we weren't doing a good

1081
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 4: job replacing guys that were getting hurt and and then

1082
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 4: and then you kind of dip off.

1083
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's it's it's a it's a tough league.

1084
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 3: And so you know, North, you guys, you guys were

1085
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,919
Speaker 3: that was a tough spot to be, you know, as an.

1086
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: Opponent for many years facts well hopefully many more. Not

1087
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: not many more, not many more, but a few more.

1088
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: And like a couple, you're four years and still still

1089
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 1: gettings of snow. God loves everybody and including me, But

1090
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: uh no, we will, we will see.

1091
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 2: You know now, I look at guys like Kalays Campbell

1092
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 2: and I'm like, huh, seventeen eighteen, that's a that's a

1093
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:48,919
Speaker 2: whole nother room.

1094
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, fifteen is doable. I like fifteen and then

1095
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:53,240
Speaker 1: we'll talk about sixteen.

1096
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 3: Good number.

1097
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, After fifteen, I have to I have to talk

1098
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 2: to the family, like I've never had an answer to anybody.

1099
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah, I'm going to fifteen, and

1100
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 2: nobody's ever pushed back after fifteen.

1101
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: I'm there's gonna be some pushback, you.

1102
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 4: Said, absolutely once we get to the you said, yeah

1103
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 4: about you though, now yeah comfortable?

1104
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely.

1105
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 2: But anyways, I appreciate you tapping in with the podcast,

1106
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 2: but I've kept you here for almost hour.

1107
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 1: I thank you so much for even spending some time

1108
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: with us. I do hope you get in this year.

1109
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 3: I appreciate it.

1110
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: Which means I'll see you down here in New Orleans

1111
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 1: because you know I'll be here.

1112
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 3: I'll be working care of Beau.

1113
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:29,800
Speaker 1: That could be.

1114
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 3: I don't have a lot of fans in New Orleans.

1115
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 3: I have said some very bad things about New Orleans.

1116
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: Come on, I've had a good time and I've had

1117
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 1: good times in Atlanta, and I know they hate me,

1118
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: so you'll be just fuing here.

1119
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 2: You know, as bad as you talked about them, they

1120
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 2: still want a super Bowl, so they don't hold in

1121
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 2: true true true.

1122
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 3: Actually, thanks, thank you. Yeah, I appreciate it.

1123
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 1: That part. Hey, I appreciate you, Brosky yea.

1124
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 3: Hopefully we get the connect to and actually meet person

1125
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 3: and then have a cola.

1126
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, I bring I'll bring the tequila because I'm

1127
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 1: more of a tequila guy than beer guy.

1128
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 3: But got that too. There we go.

1129
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 1: Like I said, appreciate you tapping in off the edge

1130
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 1: the pie with Can George