1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: M Hi, everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 2 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford. He is Wes Hodkowitz. We're coming 3 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: to you here from our studios at lambeau Field and West. 4 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: It's time to hit on the fourth and final of 5 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: our peak performances. Here we're talking about the fourth quarter 6 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: of the season, games thirteen through sixteen, certainly a fourth 7 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: quarter of the season that did not go as planned 8 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: for the Packers and because of that. Of the five 9 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: peak performances from this segment of the season, three of 10 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: them are from one game, the game in Cleveland, and 11 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: I'm talking about Brett Hunley against the Browns, Davante Adams 12 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: against the Browns, and then Trevor Davis as well. So 13 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: I don't know where you want to start with those three. Obviously, 14 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: all three you were definitely standout performances in a game 15 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: that was a big victory at the time, was keeping 16 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: the Packers in the hunt with Aaron Rodgers coming back 17 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 1: against Carolina the following week. But um, one of these 18 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: three stick out to you the most as far as 19 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: the Browns game. First and foremost, Mike, one thing you 20 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: have to understand about me I'm a big movie guy. Okay, 21 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: you go, movie comes out, and all the build up 22 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: towards it, the trailers, the preview stories, all that, and 23 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: I used that introduction because I liken that a lot 24 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: to Trevor Davis's punt return in this game. For about 25 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: two months, we got the trailers, we got the reviews, 26 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: we had Ron Zook saying that Trevor Davis was close 27 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: to breaking one. A block here, a block, there, a flag, here, 28 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: a flag there. That was the game. I put all 29 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 1: my chips at the table, I said, I said, this 30 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: is it. This has got to be the game for 31 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: Trevor Davis. And gosh, Darnardy came through almost like a 32 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: compulsive gambler. Just continue to double down exactly exactly. I 33 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: kept I kept sticking with him. I kept sticking with him, 34 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: and eventually it paid off. Had the ability the entire time. Uh, 35 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: And I think we've seen the speed. He has, great vision, 36 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: I think, particularly on punt returns, his savvy nous. He 37 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: did have some issues with a couple of muff punts 38 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: in the preseason, but we didn't really see that much 39 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: during the regular season and this particular game, I just thought, 40 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: you look at I think a sixty five yard return 41 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: this is what ultimately basically put him in the top 42 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 1: five for good in punt return average. I think he 43 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 1: finished the year third overall. Um. I just think when 44 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 1: you look at a confidence of a young player, this 45 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: is just so important to Trevor Davis because he has 46 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: all the tools to be an impact player both on 47 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: offense and special teams, and I think something like this 48 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: really is going to propel him going forward. So my 49 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: long introduction that is who uh that really stands out 50 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: to me coming out of this game. Yeah, Davis won 51 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 1: the NFC Special Teams Player of the Week award that week. 52 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 1: He took that that late punt return at his own 53 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: ten yard line, dodged a bunch of guys, got some 54 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: really nice blocks sixty five yards, leaving the Packers only 55 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: twenty five yards to go to get that tying touch 56 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: down exact to get the game to overtime. And that 57 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: tying touched down then was the work of Brett Hunley 58 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: and Davante Adams with seventeen seconds left to uh to 59 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: get the game to ot and then of course they 60 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: hooked up also on the overtime touchdown pass the walk 61 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: off I don't know if you call it walk off 62 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 1: runoff of the tunnel, um, But but to go over 63 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: the other statistics there, Brett Hunley in this game thirty 64 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 1: five of forty six, obviously a lot of passing attempts 65 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 1: because the Packers were down, a couple of touchdowns there 66 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: in the second half, two and sixty five yards, three touchdowns, 67 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 1: a one eleven point two passer rating, and then Adams 68 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: finishes the game with ten catches, eighty five yards and 69 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: two touchdowns, the two touchdowns coming at the end of 70 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter and in overtime when he spun away 71 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: from the defense and UH and took at the distance. 72 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: Obviously a big win for the Packers and UH and 73 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: really the culmination in a lot of ways of the 74 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: chemistry we had seen developing between Hunley and Adams over 75 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: the course of several weeks. Adams was really the go 76 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: to guy in the clutch here for Brett Hunley, and 77 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: he came through. It has so much about Davante Adams, 78 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: Mike that his first Pro Bowl season comes in which 79 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: a year that he didn't have really Aaron Rodgers for 80 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: a majority of it. We can really break it down 81 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: five six games all told, so for him to become 82 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: that go to guy and to have that confidence with 83 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 1: Bret Hunley. Let's be honest here for a young quarterback 84 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: coming in trying to to to find a way, I 85 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: go back to two thousand thirteen, and you know, you 86 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: look like Jared Boykin stepped up when you had Matt 87 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: Flinn at quarterback. And sometimes you just have a chemistry 88 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: with a guy that just you know, is an overwhelming 89 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: sort of thing. And I just look at that performance 90 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: by Davante Adams late, I think for him to step 91 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 1: up the way he did in a critical time in 92 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: that ball game, and also give credit to Brett Hunley 93 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,239 Speaker 1: for being consistent at a time in which there really 94 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 1: wasn't any margin for error down the stretch. Um, you 95 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,239 Speaker 1: know it, really I thought Hunley showed an incredible amount 96 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: of moxie, and I thought Davante Adams showed why he's 97 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl receiver. It didn't matter if it was 98 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers or Brett Hunley, he was gonna make plays, 99 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: and he did it consistently throughout the season. Yeah, it's 100 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: a very good point. We've got two other peak performances 101 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: from quarter number four to get to we will do 102 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 1: that after the breakback with moreen Packerds unscripted. Right after this, 103 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: welcome back to Packers Unscripted. Mike Spofford Here West, Hodkoit's 104 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: over there in West. The last two Peak performances from 105 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: quarter number four and again I should remind fans if 106 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: you'd like to vote for your favorite the story, the highlights, 107 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: everything is on packers dot com. You can cast your 108 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: vote in the poll on the Peak Performances page. The 109 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: last two Randall Cobb at Carolina seven catches eighty four 110 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: yards with a touchdown, and then defensive tackle Kenny Clark 111 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: against the Minnesota Vikings. He had two sacks, which gave 112 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 1: him four and a half acts over a four game 113 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 1: span late in the season. I'll start with Cobb at Carolina. 114 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: I think the play obviously that stood out the most 115 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 1: was when he made himself an outlet for Aaron Rodgers 116 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: on a scrambled drill at the end of the first half, 117 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 1: and then the move that he made to take to 118 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: get that into the end zone. There were three guys 119 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,359 Speaker 1: who really had a chance to tackle him, and he 120 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 1: managed to uh to dodge one and split the other 121 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: two and get the ball across the goal line. Um. 122 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: I know it wasn't the type of season Randall Cobb 123 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: was hoping for in a lot of way, as much 124 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: as it was for for the entire team, but he 125 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: still showed he can make a play once in a while. 126 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: He really did. And this is such an interesting game 127 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: for a number well the first one, as I was 128 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: watching it from a hospital. The real peak performer was 129 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: my wife that day getting birth to our son. But 130 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 1: I watched the first quarter and then I had to 131 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: step away from it. And later that night I sat 132 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,359 Speaker 1: down and watched it on game pass and I was 133 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: just blown away by Randall Cobb in this game. And 134 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: I think it was a reminder. As you said, it 135 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: wasn't the season Cobb wanted, no question about that, but 136 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 1: it's a reminder of how dynamic he can be. And 137 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: I just thought you talked the last segment. We talked 138 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:08,679 Speaker 1: about Aaron bred Hunley and and Davonte Adams having that chemistry, 139 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: the the ability for Rogers to step back in there 140 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: with Cobb and just like with Jordy Nelson just riding 141 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: a bike really um and being able to get back 142 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: into that rhythm. I just think, Cop, you have to 143 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: remember Mike at this point in the season, Packers were 144 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: having a real difficult time getting explosive place for the 145 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: passing game, and for Cobb to start off the way 146 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: he did in that contest, I thought really got them moving. 147 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: With where the final score finished out and how the 148 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: game sort of turned in the second half, You forget, 149 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: the Packers really did have a lot of momentum going 150 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: for them in the first half um and unfortunately it 151 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: wasn't enough. But for anyone that needed a reminder of 152 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: what kind of player Randall Cobb is, I thought that 153 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: this was the perfect embodiment of what he brings to 154 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: an offense. Yeah, and he was just inches away from 155 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: having a huge game because in the third quarter he 156 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: ran a steam route down the middle. He had beaten 157 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: his man, and unfortunately it was just a rusty Aaron 158 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: Rodgers who was a little short on the throw and 159 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: the throw got picked off. Otherwise that would have been 160 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: a probably a seventy four yard touchdown. He would have 161 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: been looking at a hundred and fifty yard game, maybe 162 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: even more than that with a couple of scores. So 163 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: just just that close, and if if Rogers is in 164 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: peak form himself, instead of coming back from two months off, 165 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: I think we would have seen we would have seen 166 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: a really big play that would have that would have 167 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: flipped that game. But turning the attention then to Kenny 168 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: Clark against Minnesota. This was a game. Obviously, the Packers 169 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: offense got shut out, the Minnesota Vikings were on their 170 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: way to a first round by in the playoffs and 171 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: all that. But the Packers defense on a cold night 172 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 1: at lambeau Field right around Christmas time, did a pretty 173 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 1: darn good job against case keenum in that Minnesota offense, 174 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: holding them to just sixteen points. And Kenny Clark had 175 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: a lot to do with that. And this was a 176 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: guy boy when he came back from that ankle injury, 177 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: ust he finished. He finished the season strong. Yeah, I 178 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: thought his season was over. He gets carted off the field. 179 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 1: I believe that was against Baltimore, an unfortunate situation that unfolded. 180 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: He ends up missing one game with a high ankle sprain. 181 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: And you've seen guys that try to tough it out, Mike, 182 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,439 Speaker 1: and it just really doesn't come together. You commend them 183 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:05,199 Speaker 1: for their approach, but they just really aren't impactful. Kenny 184 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: Clark came back and was as good as he's ever been. 185 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: During that final stretch, I believe there was one stat 186 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: that Nate lacas Are Packers pr Mayven came up with. 187 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: I think it was or maybe it was Tom Fanning. 188 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: I think he led the league in sacks, wasn't in 189 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:18,839 Speaker 1: the December or something like that, four or four and 190 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: a half over that stretch. You forget that this is 191 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 1: a young man that did not have one before December, 192 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: and I remember how Clinton Dix and some other guys 193 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: lamenting the fact that, you know, surprised at it. You know, 194 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: he hadn't had one yet because of how he'd been playing. Um, 195 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: he finished the season so strong and really I think 196 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 1: when you break it down at the end of the day, 197 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: was the defensive m v P. You can make an 198 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:38,959 Speaker 1: argument he was the m v P of the team 199 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 1: this year with how good he was against the run 200 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: shedding double teams, being able to get those sacks and 201 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 1: pressures from the inside. They have a great building blocking 202 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: Kenny Clark and he's still only what twenty two years old? 203 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: I mean, he has his best football ahead of him. Yeah, alright, 204 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: So those are the five peak performances from quarter number 205 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: four of the season. Hunley Adams and Davis at Cleveland, 206 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: cobbat Carolina, and Kenny Clark against Minnesota. You gotta vote 207 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: for a favorite, you know, Davante Adams is probably the 208 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: one that should get this, but I'm gonna go with 209 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: Kenny Clark. And the reason why I say that is 210 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: because it this whole run he got on reminded me 211 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 1: of b J. Raji during his his rookie season to 212 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: some extent, but really during that Super Bowl season, his 213 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: second NFL year, how strong he came out at the 214 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: end and how that really catapulted and changed the defense. 215 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: You can see what kind of impact it makes with it. 216 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: And I think for that reason, keeping in mind the 217 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: two thousand eighteen season at that point is what they're 218 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: focused on, I think you really have to be satisfied 219 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 1: with what you got out of him down the stretch. Yeah, 220 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: and I'll cast my vote for Davante Adams in Cleveland 221 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: because I want what you said about about Kenny Clark. 222 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: You know, maybe he was the m v P of 223 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 1: the entire team. I think that's a vote between Clark 224 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: and Adams based on how went to so with that 225 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: will toss to a breakback with more and Packers unscripted. 226 00:10:52,080 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 1: Right after this Welcome Back to Packers unscripted, Mike Spofford 227 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: in this chair, Wes Hodkowitz in that one. West, I 228 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: wanted to uh address a couple of things with regards 229 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: to the Hall of Fame, following up on Jerry Kramer's selection, 230 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: which we talked about quite a bit in our last show, 231 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 1: But in the interviews that I did on the NFL 232 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: Honors red carpet with Charles Woodson and with Sterling Sharp 233 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 1: and looking at the way things went with this particular 234 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame class of it got me thinking about 235 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: a few different things in terms of, Okay, so Jerry 236 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: Kramer's in, what's next for the Packers as far as 237 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame is concerned? And three things come 238 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: to mind for me. One, will Charles Woodson be a 239 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: first ballot Hall of Famer. He's a Hall of Famer, 240 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: He's going to get in. But we saw this year 241 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: brianer Lacker, Ray Lewis, Randy Moss all getting in their 242 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: first year of eligibility. Woodson will be eligible for the 243 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: first time in twenty one. I'm wondering if he's going 244 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: to be another first ballot guy. The other two issues, 245 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: Leroy Butler, and Sterling Sharp. Butler, he became a semifinalist 246 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: for the first time this past year, and now over 247 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 1: the last couple of years, we've seen Kenny easily got 248 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 1: in via Senior Committee law Seattle safety from a long 249 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: time ago um and then Brian Dawkins played safety for 250 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: sixteen years in the NFL he got in in the 251 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,959 Speaker 1: class of and over the last couple of years we've 252 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: seen John Lynch and Steve Attwater make the finalist stage. 253 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: Safety is getting a little bit more attention. The other 254 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: thing getting a little more attention is guys with maybe 255 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: the injury shortened careers. Terrell Davis has gotten in. Now 256 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: Tony Basselli was a finalist and there was a lot 257 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:46,719 Speaker 1: of there's a lot of push for Basselli. I think 258 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: the vote from what I'm reading, it sounds like the 259 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: vote was maybe pretty close for for him to get 260 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,079 Speaker 1: into this Hall of Fame class. So then you wonder 261 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: does that open a door potentially for a guy like 262 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 1: Sterling Sharp, who only played seven seasons because as of injury, 263 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: but led the NFL three times in receptions, twice in 264 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: receiving yards or no twice in touchdowns. Once in receiving yards. 265 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: So those three issues, I've kind of been kicking them 266 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 1: around in my mind. Where do you want to start? Well, 267 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 1: I want to start with the Butler thing quickly because 268 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: we've touched on in the past, and and the only 269 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 1: point I want to make with Butler and I don't 270 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: want to come off as the squeaky wheel here. We 271 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: you know, Jerry Kramer's in, so that's plenty to be 272 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: happy about. But you know, I don't know what's going 273 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: to happen with Leroy. I'm not sure how this is 274 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: gonna play out. Um, and you know, we made the semifinals. 275 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: He needs to get a run now. I think is 276 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:34,959 Speaker 1: the finals being the next step getting his name into 277 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: that room on that conversation for for Pete Doherty from 278 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 1: the Green Bay Presscauseette to make that argument for him. 279 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: Here's the two things I want to point out with Butler. 280 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: If John Lynch and Steve Atwater, and no disrespect to 281 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: either of them, congrats to John on the trade for 282 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo, but no, but both of those guys are 283 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: great safeties. The fact that they've been finalists before Leroy 284 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: Butler has ever been a semifinals is still absolutely befuddling 285 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: to me. Go back and watch the Packers of those 286 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: mid to late nineties, Fritz Shermer's defenses come and I 287 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: commend Fritz Shermer for how he used LA. People didn't 288 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: use safeties that way at that time. He was playing 289 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: a role that is popular today. I just I still 290 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: to this day. And the two things hurting Larroy is 291 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: the fact that he didn't really move to safety until 292 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: his third season, and then he had the career ending 293 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: shoulder injury. If you had a little bit more time 294 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: on either side of it, I think he has a 295 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: more compelling argument. But still, I look at Atwater's stats, 296 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: and I look at Lynches stats, and I look at 297 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: who they were playing with. You're really telling me the 298 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers, And then that went into the next 299 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: year is eleven and a half point favorite super Bowl 300 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: thirty two. They had two Super Bowl or two Envy 301 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: or two Pro Football Hall of Fame players on those teams. 302 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: I just don't buy it. Yeah, I agree with you. 303 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: I think I think Butler's candidacy deserves more attention than 304 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: it's getting. He was the first defensive back and a 305 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: lot of other guys have done it since, but he 306 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: was the first guy to get to twenty sacks and 307 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: twenty interceptions as a defensive back. And that's when you 308 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: talk about using guys in different ways. Butler, Fritz Shermer, 309 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: they were, they were the guys on the cutting edge 310 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: with that. And I think that's the part with with 311 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: him that needs to be recognized a little bit more. 312 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: If he could have just gotten I think, and it's 313 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: it's only one and a half away. Yeah, I just 314 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: I think that that would have really really put him 315 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: over the top because now you look at Charles Woodson 316 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: coming up in a couple of years where he put 317 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: that bar. I mean, it's remarkable now what defensive backs 318 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: are doing. Yeah, and Charles Woodson, I think he's going 319 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: to be a first ballot absolutely. I think he's going 320 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: to get in right away with his class. Yeah, I 321 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: think with the guys that he that he retired with, 322 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: there's some talented guys in there. But I just I 323 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: think it's a no brainer. Yeah, it's gonna be Peyton Manning. 324 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: And there's another one too, I think who's a potential 325 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: first ballot guy And it's it's slipping my mind right now, 326 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: who also retired at the end of the Calvin Johnson 327 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: make a TS. Yeah, so you could potentially have another 328 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: class there of three first ballot guy is in. I 329 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: just really want to see Peyton Manning and Charles Woodson 330 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: going together. No that that's no, but you're right, those 331 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: are the two guys. They were one two in the 332 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: They were the one too in the Heisman voting the 333 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: year that they came out of college. So so yeah, 334 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: that really would be special to see them going together. 335 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: With regards to Sterling Sharp, his odds I think are 336 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: longer than Leroy Butler's I think Butler has a better chance. 337 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: But it's interesting you you look at what Sharp did 338 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: and if they are if if people on the committee, 339 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: voters and stuff are going to look a little bit 340 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: more at injury shortened careers. This is a guy who 341 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: he broke Art Monks record for receptions in a single 342 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: season and then broke his own record the following year. Now, 343 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: since then, he had a hundred and twelve that second time, 344 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: which was the NFL, which was an NFL record. Since then, 345 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of guys have gotten more than a 346 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: hundred and twelve, But at the time he got a 347 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: hundred and twelve and that was the NFL record for 348 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: a single season. He had set that record, you know, 349 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: two years in a row himself. That says something about 350 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: being a dominant player, even though the career unfortunately wasn't 351 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: as long as a lot of people would have hoped. Yeah, 352 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: and you do wonder if he could have had a 353 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: Donald Driver type run just where he would have put 354 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 1: some of those franchise records and no disrespected driver. And 355 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 1: then I'm just saying in terms of what trajectory he 356 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 1: was on pays for no question at that point in time, 357 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: and if he could have had a few more years 358 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: with with Brett Farve, but whatever the case, may be 359 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 1: a phenomenal football player. I think sometimes because of the 360 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 1: shortened career, because of you know, I'm playing his first 361 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,199 Speaker 1: four or five seasons without five, he doesn't get a 362 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: lot of notoriety for that. Um, but I you know, 363 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 1: I go back to I think Shannon Sharpe said in 364 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 1: his Hall of Fame speech that he's a Pro Football 365 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: famer and he's a second best player in his family. Um. 366 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:41,919 Speaker 1: It's just it's such a it's such an impactful thing 367 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: for for a guy like that to say that, Yeah, 368 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: and and Sterling had eight team touchdowns in one season, 369 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 1: which is still the Packers single season record at a 370 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 1: time where there was only like twenty four to twenty 371 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: eight touchdowns a year. Was a great season for a 372 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 1: quarterback to throw. So it's it's pretty remarkable, all right. 373 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 1: With that, we'll tell us to a break back with 374 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: more on Packer's Unscripted Reddit to this Welcome back to 375 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: Packers Unscripted Mike Spofford alongside West, hod Cowits and West. Quickly, 376 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: before I forget, I need to take care of some 377 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: sponsor business. Your attention, Packers fans. We're calling you to 378 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: fill up with Campbell's Chunky Chicken Noodle Soup. We're talking delicious, 379 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: hearty SUP packaged in an exclusive Packers super Fan can. 380 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: These cans are limited edition for all you football fanatics 381 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: out there, so don't miss out. 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And this was a guy who was 392 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 1: pegged as as the one hit wonder in Chip Kelly's offense. 393 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: He was the Tommy two tone of of NFL quarterbacks 394 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 1: because he had that great year with twenty seven touchdowns 395 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: and only a couple of interceptions and then you know, 396 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 1: kind of fell off the map. Um, He's put himself 397 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: back on the map, and credit to him. He got 398 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: his opportunity and uh, and he cashed in. He took 399 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 1: advantage of it. And I just I absolutely loved his 400 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 1: postgame speech about failure and success. And I think this 401 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: is such an important message for people out there in 402 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 1: every walk of life, Mike, because so often there's a 403 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 1: negative connotation associated with losing, failure, mistakes, and I think 404 00:19:54,160 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 1: sometimes that can overwhelm and eliminate really the reality we 405 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: all live in. And so many times over the years 406 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: I've been talking with Packer fans about the way Aaron 407 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: Rodgers plays and how consistent he is and in the 408 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: level and the throws and the vision. It's just even 409 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: he makes mistakes, even he there's plays he wants back. 410 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 1: You mentioned the Randall Cob throw. Nick Foles. I think 411 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: his perspective on things. The guy that just won the 412 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 1: Super Bowl Super Bowl m v P played what appeared 413 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: to be a perfect game, made so many clutch throws 414 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 1: through windows that are almost impossible for a normal human 415 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 1: being to ever be able to get remotely through. And 416 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: for the second game in a row, when you go 417 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: back to that NFC type, the second game in a 418 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: row and Doug Peterson to have the confidence in the 419 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: young man to come through, you kind of forget what 420 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: happened in St. Louis and the fact that he got 421 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 1: traded from Philadelphia. It was that big Sam Bradford deal. 422 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: The Rams think they have a guy that's gonna be 423 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: their starting quarterback, and he starts eleven games and it 424 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 1: doesn't work out, and the next year they offload him 425 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,679 Speaker 1: to the chiefs ends up back and up. You know, 426 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: Al Smith, there's questions about whether or not he was 427 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: going to retire, and for him to get this opportunity 428 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 1: and to not be starstruck, to not be uh, you know, 429 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: like to not be paralyzed by the moment. Yeah, yeah, 430 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 1: I just I think there's just a lesson for everybody 431 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,439 Speaker 1: out there, in any walk of life of exactly what 432 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: it means to persevere and to put your best foot forward. Yeah, 433 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: I agree with you, and a lot of eyes will 434 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: now be on a just where Nick Fole's career goes. 435 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: He's under contract another year, uh for a high salary 436 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: for a backup quarterback. Certainly, Um, the Eagles, you know 437 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz. He injured his knee in December. So what's 438 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 1: the timeline there with Wentz? I don't know. I said 439 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: this in our Insider inbox. If I'm the Eagles, I'm 440 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: keeping him on the roster just for safe keeping unless 441 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: certain there's no way he should not be on the roster. Yeah, 442 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: all right, with that, we'll call it a wrap on 443 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: this edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure to follow all 444 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 1: of our coverage of the team on Packers dot Com 445 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: on Twitter. He's still west Hod, I'm still Mike's bofford 446 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 1: at Packers is still the team account. Thanks for tuning in, everybody. 447 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: We'll see you next time. H m hm.