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Speaker 2: Sponsored by the United States Department of Homeland.

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Speaker 3: Security working with jay Z to build a reform Alliance

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Speaker 3: to get people out of prison. I was with jay

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Speaker 3: Z a board meeting for the Reform Alliance. Now I

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Speaker 4: I'm a lawyer.

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Speaker 3: I've been doing this for thirty years. So I said

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Speaker 4: I'm not worried about jay Z. And this is my territory.

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Speaker 6: So you know, my team would come up with stuff

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Speaker 3: just just looking at me, just looking at me. And

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Speaker 4: Did did you did you?

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Speaker 3: Did you did anybody here get supervised into being better

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Speaker 7: All right, guys, welcome back e y L. We're back

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Speaker 7: home and this is a very exciting episode for us.

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Speaker 7: Well, we're into politics a lot. My mom's been watching.

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Speaker 4: Our parents are doing the same thing.

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Speaker 8: They watch it like it's ESPN.

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Speaker 4: It's all they watched.

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Speaker 5: I got an argument, like we were doing our show,

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Speaker 5: and I would argue, like, you're watching this show more

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Speaker 5: you than it the people you're watching. And so they

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Speaker 7: So we have the man, the myth, the legend, Van Jones,

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Speaker 7: so serial entrepreneur, entrepreneur used to work at the White

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Speaker 7: that we'll talk about, best selling author family man that

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Speaker 4: This is now a full circle moment.

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Speaker 4: This is true. This didn't didn't know you at all.

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Speaker 3: And also also by the way, you know, it's funny

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Speaker 6: We've been hearing.

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Speaker 7: to kind of quickly go over your backstory. How do

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Speaker 6: Yeah, my parents. Honestly, I mean.

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Speaker 3: It started with just just seeing what my what my

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Speaker 7: So it's media, finance, tech and politics. Politics.

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Speaker 8: Talking to somebody.

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Speaker 4: Look, everybody needs to vote.

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Speaker 4: But that's your defensive strategy.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you think about you mentioned being a family guy.

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00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,480
Speaker 3: I have an eighteen month old baby girl, okay, to

440
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:22,760
Speaker 3: show you how technology is going to change her whole

441
00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:27,440
Speaker 3: entire life. Her first crush in you know, five, six,

442
00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,800
Speaker 3: seven years, it's not probably not going to be like

443
00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:33,879
Speaker 3: a pop star or rock star or dashing cartoon character.

444
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:35,080
Speaker 4: It's probably going to be an AI.

445
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 3: It's probably going to be an artificially intelligent being that

446
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,840
Speaker 3: she can interact with like that's that's not how we

447
00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,480
Speaker 3: grew up. When it's time for her to have kids,

448
00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,200
Speaker 3: given where biotech is going, in thirty thirty five years,

449
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 3: she might just be able to open up her laptop.

450
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 6: And design my grandkids.

451
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:55,400
Speaker 3: Okay, in eighty ninety years, when she's buried, she might

452
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:59,320
Speaker 3: be buried on Mars. I mean, when you look at

453
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 3: what's going on with private space flight, when you look

454
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,679
Speaker 3: at what's going on with biotech, what's going on with

455
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 3: quantum computing, which is gonna accelerate AI. These people are

456
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 3: creating a whole new human civilization. With I didn't say

457
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 3: million dollars, billion dollars. These are trillion dollar industries that

458
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 3: are just getting started with very little black and brown participation.

459
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 3: And so I look at that and I think to myself, Okay,

460
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 3: first of all, we need to take this seriously.

461
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 6: Not just oh, AI is gonna take my job. AI

462
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,119
Speaker 6: is gonna you know, they.

463
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,239
Speaker 3: Have racist robots profiling me. Okay, that's that we need

464
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:41,879
Speaker 3: to protect against the negative. But we're so oppressed man,

465
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:48,440
Speaker 3: and traumatized and hurt that we're very threat sensitive. Oh

466
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 3: what's a I gonna do? Is gonna hurt me? But

467
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 3: we are not opportunity sensitive. How can it help me?

468
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 3: How can I get on the ground floor. How can

469
00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 3: I experiment with these technologies and build the next Disney

470
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:04,640
Speaker 3: on my laptop? How can I actually use this combined

471
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:05,920
Speaker 3: with what black folks.

472
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:06,199
Speaker 4: Are great at.

473
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 3: Look look at what we've been able to create with

474
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 3: literally nothing. We took two turntables in a microphone and

475
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:17,880
Speaker 3: took over the planet. That's not much technology. This technology

476
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,239
Speaker 3: as creative as we are. If we're not scared of it,

477
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 3: if we say we're gonna grab it, use and own

478
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:28,160
Speaker 3: it on the future, own the future and what's amazing

479
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 3: to me is to see people who because they don't

480
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 3: come from that oppression, they don't come from that trauma,

481
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:35,880
Speaker 3: they just think.

482
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 4: It's their right to build the future and we don't.

483
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 3: And so we even we can't even call it racism

484
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,439
Speaker 3: yet because it's not like we're banging on the door

485
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Speaker 3: and they're saying no Negroes allowed.

486
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 4: If you're not banging on the door, don't even know

487
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 4: the door to bang on exactly bang on.

488
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:57,639
Speaker 3: So you know, it's like, you know, like like with

489
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Speaker 3: Black Wall Street, Like Black Wall Street, we build Black

490
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 3: Wall Street and they burned it down, Well, that's racism.

491
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 3: But what if we never built it, what if we

492
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 3: never even gave ourself permission to build it? Is that

493
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 3: racism or is that internalized self limitation, oppression, trauma and pain?

494
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 3: And so what I'm saying is never will there be

495
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:21,640
Speaker 3: a bigger opportunity for black wealth creation ever, ever, ever

496
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 3: in the next five to ten years.

497
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Speaker 6: In the technology space, and.

498
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Speaker 3: Even if you don't have an advanced degree in AI,

499
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 3: there's going to be so many industries that are built

500
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 3: around it and built into it. Whatever you're doing, you

501
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 3: to be adding AI to it anyway, And to me,

502
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:39,360
Speaker 3: I would have never thought this way. But Felicia Horwitz

503
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 3: opened a door. I got a chance to meet people

504
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:46,439
Speaker 3: I would never met. Also, Robert Smith opened the door.

505
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 3: I got a chance to do stuff with him. I

506
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:49,399
Speaker 3: would have never got a chance to do, you know,

507
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 3: working with him and Jay Z and those guys to

508
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 3: build a reform alliance to help people go out to

509
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 3: a jail. I'm doing do gooder stuff as a lawyer

510
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 3: in the not for profit space, but I'm meeting all

511
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,120
Speaker 3: these titans who want a help, and then rather than

512
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,199
Speaker 3: just writing a check, they're like, here, come here, let

513
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,440
Speaker 3: me teach you something. Felicia Howitz, Hey, let me come here.

514
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 3: Robert Smith, let me show you something. Just being around

515
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:12,120
Speaker 3: Robert Smith without him saying anything, made me a better person.

516
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,880
Speaker 3: Just watching him and how he talks to his staff,

517
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 3: The level of respect, the level you know he's not

518
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:22,919
Speaker 3: respect of you. Better do this, you better do that.

519
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 3: He just he's at this level and he expects you

520
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,160
Speaker 3: to be at this level. So even if you didn't

521
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 3: know you could be at this level, all of a sudden,

522
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Speaker 3: you said me, you just want to just to be

523
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Speaker 3: in a conversation.

524
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Speaker 6: You coming up with stuff you didn't even know you

525
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 6: knew like so being.

526
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:38,879
Speaker 3: Able to be around people like that, working with jay

527
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,239
Speaker 3: Z to build a Reform Alliance to get people out

528
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 3: of prison. I was with jay Z in a board

529
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 3: meeting for the Reform Alliance. Now, I mean to be rude,

530
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 3: but I know a lot about criminal justice stuff.

531
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Speaker 4: I'm a lawyer.

532
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 3: I've been doing this for thirty years. So I said,

533
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,679
Speaker 3: the one place I don't have to worry about jay.

534
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,119
Speaker 4: Z beating me the home game for you.

535
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Speaker 9: It's a home game for me. I'm not worried about

536
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:04,199
Speaker 9: jay Z. And this this is my territory. So you know,

537
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 9: my team had come up with stuff and we were

538
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 9: presenting on me, and I knew my stuff was tight.

539
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 9: I'm like, I'm impressing jay Z. I know this dude

540
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:12,439
Speaker 9: is proud to.

541
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 3: Get And after I finished talking, you just just looking

542
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 3: at me, just looking at me. And we've been talking

543
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 3: about probation and parole and supervision reform, how we're gonna

544
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 3: perform supervision so folks don't get sent back on for

545
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 3: no reason, and it's.

546
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Speaker 4: Gonna change, and he just looked at me.

547
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 3: He's just like, how many people in this room were

548
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:41,719
Speaker 3: supervised into being better in the room got dead quiet.

549
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 3: We're like, oh oh uh. He says, is anybody here?

550
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 3: He's not the only billionaire in the room. It's a

551
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 3: whole bunch of billionaires that he's helped organize all in

552
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 3: the room.

553
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 4: And he said, did did you did you? Did you?

554
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 3: Did anybody here get supervised into being better? Or did

555
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 3: you get mentored into being better? He says, why are

556
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 3: you talking to us about fixing supervision? You should be

557
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 3: turning all these programs into mentorship program I was like,

558
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 3: oh my god, we've been working this stuff for twenty years.

559
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:20,120
Speaker 3: Nobody had even realized you're basically polishing a turd, Like

560
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 3: the whole thing from the beginning can never be fixed.

561
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 3: This dude comes in and this what the thing about

562
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 3: black billionaires. You can be a white billionaire and just

563
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 3: be smart in one direction. To be a black billionaire,

564
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 3: you got to have genius on top of genius, wrapped

565
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 3: up in genius deep fright in some more genius. So

566
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 3: you're going to be smart and so many different key

567
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:47,679
Speaker 3: word is deep front. Yeah, And so you know, just

568
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 3: being exposed to these guys and how they think and

569
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 3: how free their minds are. But also you know, they

570
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 3: don't let a lot of bs around them.

571
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 6: You know, you have to be like a bionic crab

572
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 6: if you're black, you know what I mean.

573
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 3: Because to be that crab, try I got out of the barrel.

574
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 3: You have so many people trying to pull you down.

575
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 3: And also you got to put many people on your

576
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 3: back from your community, for your family.

577
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 4: You have to be a bionic craft.

578
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:10,360
Speaker 8: That's what.

579
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 7: So we talked to Timbland and he was saying that

580
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 7: he's like, you know, do you ever find it weird

581
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 7: that like all of our billionaires is like Oprah one

582
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 7: billion dollars at that time, Kanye one billion dollars? Did

583
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 7: he one billion dollars? Jay Z one point five billion dollars?

584
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 7: Riona one billion. He's like, everybody's like one billion, two billion.

585
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 7: Robert Smith's a outlive, but even he's at nine billion.

586
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,360
Speaker 7: You got random people that you never heard of, thirty

587
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 7: seven billion, fifty eight. But he was like to me,

588
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 7: jay Z is already fifty billion dollars because he's like

589
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 7: he's so exceptional, there's no way it's the only worth

590
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 7: one billion, Like he won every Olympic medal possible, and

591
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 7: the guy like just a random crypto guy is fifteen

592
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 7: billion that you never heard of that's thirty years old.

593
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 7: So what you're saying is right and is true on

594
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 7: a variety of different standpoints. That the level of exceptional

595
00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 7: that you have to be as a black person. It's

596
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 7: hard to articulate because even the successful people in the

597
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 7: grand scheme of things are not really as successful as

598
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 7: they should be. But they realize that this really like

599
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 7: underachieved their counterparts relative to the level of success that

600
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 7: they've actually achieved, the influence that they've actually been able to.

601
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 4: It's called the Puff thing.

602
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 5: When we're talking to Puff and he's like, guys, I'm

603
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 5: in rooms that you haven't gotten to yet. And then

604
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 5: I still am kind of the outlier and I'm seeing

605
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 5: things that I can't even explain yet, right, and so

606
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 5: he's got to kick down doors for us to now

607
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 5: come into the room. But it's a fight that we're

608
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 5: looking at him like this is the highest level. There's

609
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 5: so many years we're looking at our entertainers and athletes,

610
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 5: this is the highest level, not realizing that.

611
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 7: You realize that it's not the highest level, a lower level.

612
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 7: But let me ask you this, as far as speaking

613
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 7: to people at the highest level. Jeff Bezos, I think

614
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 7: he's the third richest person in the world currently.

615
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 4: Today today can change the mom.

616
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 3: Don't don't bet against him, definitely, And that's divorced. By

617
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 3: the way, he's third divorced, so she is I think

618
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 3: the third wealthiest woman. So it's like, so you cut

619
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 3: doesn't have he's still number three.

620
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 7: So I want to talk about this, but first, so

621
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 7: you were awarded the Courage and Civility Yes Award in

622
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Speaker 7: twenty twenty one.

623
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Speaker 8: What is that?

624
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 7: Can you kind of explain what that actually means? Then

625
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 7: we can go into the grant.

626
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 3: You know, Jeff Bezos and Laurence Sanchez, his partner, decided

627
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 3: they wanted to give people some incentive for working across

628
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 3: the aisle, working with different races, different political people, whatever.

629
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 3: And because all the incentives are to not do that.

630
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 3: You know, the incentives are the more you can put

631
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 3: down the other side, the more attention you get away,

632
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 3: you know, the whole game. And so they decided to

633
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 3: create this award. That's an annual award. It's one hundred

634
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 3: million dollars a year. It's not to the individual, so

635
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 3: it's not like I have a hundred million dollars now

636
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 3: I'm a rich person.

637
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 4: You gotta hunt let me exactly exactly like.

638
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 8: I for you exactly.

639
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 3: Nobody's ever said that except Deck. Seriously, I'm like, I

640
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 3: do not have a hundred million dollars.

641
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 4: That's for me.

642
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 3: It's it's for charity, you know, to support charitable organizations.

643
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 3: Basically gave gave me the right to direct one hundred

644
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 3: million dollars of his charity charitable dollars to causes that

645
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 3: that I believe it.

646
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 8: Don't you feel fit?

647
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 3: I feel fit with with no board or oversight. I

648
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 3: don't have to go back and not handcuffed to me,

649
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 3: handcuffs whatever. And it's really radical because you know, a

650
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 3: lot of times these billionaires, when they do want to

651
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 3: do some some good adults set up a big foundation

652
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 3: and then the foundation is going to hire a bunch

653
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 3: of people. And now I went to college. Now I

654
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 3: all have big you know, suit loans, payoffs, they got

655
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 3: to get big salaries, and they got all have laptops.

656
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 3: And by time fish with all that, most of the

657
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Speaker 3: money is paying for the foundation, you know what I mean,

658
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Speaker 3: and the people and not getting much.

659
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Speaker 8: We need to discuss this in Aruba.

660
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Speaker 3: Agree, Yeah, we gotta gotta redo our mission statement. We're

661
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 3: gonna bring in fifteen consultants for that, and he's just like,

662
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 3: could we have twenty cents in the hood. So uh

663
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Speaker 3: so it was really radical for him to do that.

664
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Speaker 3: And he also picked a chuffles andres and uh and

665
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 3: he picked all the part and they're gonna pick some more.

666
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Speaker 3: But what was so amazing about it to me was

667
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 3: that the way it came about. I told you, Felicia Horwitz,

668
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 3: it you know, got me in the room. And then

669
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Speaker 3: I had a TV show called Redemption Project. We were

670
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Speaker 3: talking to people who were, you know, formerly incarcerated, people

671
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Speaker 3: who wanted to make amends. And a woman named Diane

672
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 3: von Furstenberg saw that show. She might be the only

673
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Speaker 3: one that saw because the ratings were terrible. But so

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Speaker 3: I thank you brother.

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Speaker 5: You and your mom kive me a lot trying to

676
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Speaker 5: support each other.

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Speaker 4: Man.

678
00:32:58,760 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly.

679
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Speaker 3: So, so dian bon first Burg saw the show, and

680
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Speaker 3: so I'm in this room full of like gazillionaires and

681
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 3: she walks right over to me and she says, I

682
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 3: love you, I love your show. I want you to

683
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Speaker 3: meet someone and takes me by the hand over to

684
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Speaker 3: Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sanchez where that Sun Valley the

685
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Speaker 3: same conference, it wants a billionaire com.

686
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Speaker 4: Can you put that on the notes?

687
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Speaker 3: Just like a situation like a Dovo's type of situation exactly,

688
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 3: World Economic Forum, Sign Valley, these kind of super super

689
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 3: super exclusive events, and in fact, there's not that many

690
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 3: of us there. And when you get there, it's a

691
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 3: totally different culture. You may as well be on Neptune.

692
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 3: It's like completely different how they talk and how they interact.

693
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Speaker 3: But instantly this woman comes over and grabs me by

694
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Speaker 3: the hand, and she's like the queen mother, which I

695
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 3: didn't know at the time of all Sign Valley, everybody

696
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 3: loves Diane bon Furstenburg and so all of a sudden,

697
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 3: without me realizing it, again doing good, this woman noticed

698
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 3: me and she took me by the hand directly of bezos.

699
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 3: And it's like people like like trying to figure out,

700
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 3: like it's like it's like double Dutch. She was trying

701
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 3: figure out when they can get in and say something,

702
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 3: and she just WHOA, you should meet this young man.

703
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 3: And so because she tapped me on the shoulder, he

704
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,280
Speaker 3: said okay, And so you know, we sat.

705
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Speaker 6: Down and talked and the good thing about it was.

706
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 3: I was in a good place emotionally, I had some

707
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 3: good therapy, I wasn't stressing out. I didn't have a

708
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 3: whole big agenda. I didn't expect to meet him in

709
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,800
Speaker 3: the first place, and so we just started talking from.

710
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Speaker 6: The heart, and UH.

711
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Speaker 3: Mentioned that I had left the Obama White House under

712
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Speaker 3: fire from the right wing, which is the whole other

713
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 3: part of my story. And then somebody who was overhearing

714
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 3: and said, yeah, Glenn Back and started saying bad stuff

715
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 3: about people a Fox, And I said, oh, a second,

716
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 3: Glenn Back is my friend now, And Jeff said what

717
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 3: I said, Yeah, Glenn Beck is my.

718
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Speaker 8: Friend, Glenn Black. You got a relationship with one Back?

719
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Speaker 4: I do, I did.

720
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Speaker 3: I don't agree with him on anything politically, but because

721
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 3: he he had been the person who had been so

722
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,240
Speaker 3: hard on me when the Obama administration that ultimately decided

723
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 3: to resign.

724
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 8: What happened with this Obama situation?

725
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 3: Okay, so I was working for Obama and I was

726
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 3: working on clean energy and that type of stuff. The

727
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 3: right wing really wanted to stop Obama. They just hated him.

728
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 3: And at that point, he's the most popular human ever born,

729
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like he got a Nobel

730
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 3: Prize just for inhaling and exhaling. I mean, you know

731
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Speaker 3: what I mean, like just I mean just literally because

732
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Speaker 3: he exists. I mean, it's never happened before in the

733
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,959
Speaker 3: history of the Nobel Peace Prize, you know, sixty votes

734
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 3: in the Senate, Pelosi run the House for him. I mean,

735
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 3: this dude is an unstoppable juggernaut. And so the right

736
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 3: wing I figure out, well, what can you do to

737
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 3: stop this guy? So they try to analyze him. They

738
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 3: can't do anything to him. They look at all his

739
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 3: cabinet secretaries, just trying to find anybody with any kind

740
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 3: of dirt. So he get all the way down to me.

741
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 3: I'm a special advisor. Now I'm look, this is a

742
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:02,280
Speaker 3: show for business people. Just understand just one thing about politics.

743
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 3: This is you got to meet political people. Just understand

744
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 3: one thing. The shorter the title, the more power the

745
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 3: person has. Okay, president, vice president, you know what I mean.

746
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 3: So the shorter your title, the more power you have.

747
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 3: The longer your title, the less power you have. So

748
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:21,280
Speaker 3: if you're the secretary of you know, under secretary, deputy

749
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:22,399
Speaker 3: under secretary, the.

750
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Speaker 4: Longer your title, less power you have. You know what

751
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 4: My title was one for Obama. My title green Energy Specialist.

752
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 3: Say listen, Special Advisor for Green Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation

753
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 3: at the White House Council on Environmental Quality.

754
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Speaker 4: That was my title.

755
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 3: Okay, so it's like I was one step above an intern.

756
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 3: And yet the media was so fascinated by having this

757
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 3: black guy who's from the Oakland area, who's doing all

758
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 3: this stuff with the solar panels or whatever. It's mediagenic,

759
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 3: so they had to shorten me down to green jobs.

760
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Speaker 9: Are Czar Oohar one says was the bizarre that did it.

761
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Speaker 3: That was the putting a bullseye of forehead. And so

762
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 3: Glenn back then decides, Okay, I'm gonna get this guy.

763
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Speaker 3: I found him, came him all the way down to

764
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 3: the special advisor level. And here's this one black guy

765
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Speaker 3: who used to suit cops in Oakland, and I was

766
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 3: I was a fight the power.

767
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 4: Radical black activists.

768
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 3: I make no apology for it because while I was

769
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 3: in my twenties, they were building prisons coast to coast.

770
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Speaker 4: They were right after Rodney King. I make no apologies

771
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 4: for it.

772
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 3: I was on the left side of Pluto when I

773
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 3: would have been further left back and figured it out.

774
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 3: And I've never hidden that, I've never apologized for it.

775
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 3: If you don't like what my politics were, then the

776
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 3: politics where the big people should have been different. Y'all

777
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 3: politics are putting us in prison. We don't have to

778
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 3: like that, we don't have to go along with that.

779
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 3: But now I'm in a white house.

780
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 8: So what'd you do? What they find?

781
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 3: So they found that I was a left wing activist.

782
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 3: They found that I've been in you know, socialist collectives.

783
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,720
Speaker 3: They found I was you know, protested and cops.

784
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 9: Uh.

785
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 3: They made up some stuff as well. But in those

786
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 3: days you can be controversial being white house. This is

787
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 3: Brock Obama's white house. And we were trying to be

788
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 3: a clean, queaky clean and so Obama's people said, you know,

789
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 3: we want to stay.

790
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 6: We want you to stay, We want to fight.

791
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 4: I said, no, you don't. You don't want me to stay.

792
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 3: I'm to say, right now, if you think this little

793
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 3: stuff and they've found in trouble, wait till they really

794
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 3: started digging.

795
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 6: I was at every protest you can imagine.

796
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 9: So I said, that's him again, that's him again, that's

797
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 9: got the millionaire march.

798
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 4: I was not. I didn't I was I had the flu.

799
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Speaker 8: Obama was right.

800
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Speaker 4: I think he was.

801
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think he was. Common They made that a

802
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Speaker 8: big deal.

803
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 7: Exactly, he's got the millionaire a million people.

804
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 4: What's yeah, Yeah, I had the flug.

805
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 3: I couldn't go but so so Glenn Beck used that

806
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 3: to just I mean, they did I think seventeen eighteen

807
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 3: shows on me alone.

808
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 7: Like propaganda, propaganda, prop extreme exactly wing the communist exactly,

809
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 7: exact commnists. And this is this is the guy that

810
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 7: has Obamas trying to good energy.

811
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 4: Man, they made him back.

812
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to give like solar panels to the hood.

813
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 3: Like now, I'm like, you know, I'm like stalling our mouth.

814
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 3: So so I resign.

815
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 6: Uh.

816
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 4: And you know it was tough, man, I was.

817
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 3: You know, that was one of the toughest things I

818
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 3: ever did, because, of course you want to be there

819
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 3: with him, with Obama. Of course you want to all

820
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 3: your dreams have come true. You're at this pannacle of power,

821
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 3: and the next day you're gone. And I'll tell you something.

822
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 3: We had blackberries in those days, and when I was

823
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 3: working for Obama, my phone was literally just buzz.

824
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,720
Speaker 6: I mean, I couldn't eat dinner.

825
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 3: I couldn't be in the shower come back thirty messages.

826
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 3: I mean it was just buzz buzz buzz, buzz buzz.

827
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 3: And and after I was resigned from the White House,

828
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 3: I was like, it's just my bad.

829
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 4: Number.

830
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 9: Who is I was like, it's my bad to something

831
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 9: that they cut me off to be.

832
00:39:59,200 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 4: Paying my attention.

833
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 3: I mean, nobody reaching out and uh so Glenn Glenn Beck,

834
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 3: uh you literally called said you know, I have a

835
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 3: scalp number one, ban Jones is a scalp number one.

836
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 4: I'm gonna get more number one.

837
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,359
Speaker 3: I took a scalp like yeah, like he told you that,

838
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 3: he said on the air to the whole world. And

839
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 3: so so when my name is so now I'm talking

840
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 3: to Jeff Bezels about my life when this story comes up,

841
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 3: somebody who knows said yeah, and Glenn Beck, like you know,

842
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:26,879
Speaker 3: took him out and I said, hold on. I said,

843
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 3: Glenn Beck is a friend of mine. And Bethel said

844
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 3: what I said, Yeah, he's a friend of mine. He said,

845
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 3: how is that possible? I said, Look, I had small

846
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 3: children at that time, and I didn't want them to

847
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 3: feel that there was some mean guy named Glenn Beck

848
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 3: that hurt their daddy because we don't agree on stuff.

849
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 3: So I re shot to toe beec and I said, look,

850
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 3: I don't care about the public stuff, but you and

851
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 3: I need to sit down and talk man to man.

852
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 4: And he was shocked to hear from me.

853
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 3: And we sat down and uh we you know, he

854
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 3: acknowledged that, uh that you know, of course a couple

855
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 3: of years had gone by, he could acknowledged that, Uh,

856
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 3: he would have handle it differently if he had to

857
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 3: do it over again.

858
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 6: And that was enough for me.

859
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,399
Speaker 3: So I'm telling the story to Bezos and Bethel said,

860
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 3: you know, I don't think I could do that. I

861
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 3: really don't think I could do that. He said, I

862
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 3: need to get to know you. He said, that's he said,

863
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 3: that's that's that's very interesting to me. And so we

864
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 3: just started talking about redemption. I said, listen, man, I

865
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 3: go into prisons where young brothers have literally killed other

866
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 3: young brothers, and I don't block their blessing from me

867
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 3: based on that they've sold poison to our children. And

868
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 3: I if I'm going to relate to you based on

869
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 3: the worst thing you ever did, we're going to be

870
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 3: stuck here forever. I'd say to those same same young brothers,

871
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 3: Tomorrow's more important than yesterday.

872
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 4: What are we gonna do? How can you be great?

873
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 6: Now?

874
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 3: If I can go into prisons and do that, then

875
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Speaker 1: Secretary of Homeland Security. Under President Trump, attempted illegal border

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Speaker 1: crossings are at the lowest levels ever recorded, and over

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Speaker 1: one hundred thousand illegal aliens have been arrested. If you

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961
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962
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964
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Speaker 1: Do what's right. Leave now. Under President Trump America's laws,

965
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Speaker 1: border and family will be protected.

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Speaker 2: Sponsored by the United States Department of Homeland Security.

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Speaker 3: I'm serious about this stuff. And then Lauren Sanchez, his partner.

968
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Speaker 3: You know, she's Latina. She comes from the same communities

969
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Speaker 3: that I'm talking about, and I think it really moved

970
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Speaker 3: her to see somebody like for real fighting. And by

971
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Speaker 3: the way, because I didn't hold all these Republicans in

972
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Speaker 3: a negative light, I was able to work with them

973
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Speaker 3: later on a bunch of other stuff. And anyway you

974
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Speaker 3: pass bills stuff like that. So at the end of

975
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Speaker 3: the day, how did I get one hundred million dollars

976
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Speaker 3: at a black woman therapist, black women Felicia Horowitz who

977
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Speaker 3: got me in the door, a Jewish woman Diane von Furstenberg,

978
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Speaker 3: who brought me over to Jeff and Latina Lauren Sanchez,

979
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Speaker 3: who said, we need to do something with you. So

980
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Speaker 3: like I just talked about, would do something. And so

981
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Speaker 3: that's the other thing that people need to talk more

982
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Speaker 3: about is often women behind the scenes that are making

983
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Speaker 3: a way for men, that are opening doors, that are

984
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Speaker 3: helping out, that are seeing more in you.

985
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Speaker 4: Than you see in yourself, that are giving me these opportunities.

986
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Speaker 3: And then okay, well, now you see Van Jones and

987
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Speaker 3: Jeff Bezos shaking hands on stage. There's a whole lot

988
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Speaker 3: that went on behind the scenes to make that even possible.

989
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Speaker 4: And then also.

990
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Speaker 3: Doing that inner work meant that when I had the conversation,

991
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Speaker 3: I wasn't having a conversation about, Oh, I'm a victim,

992
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Speaker 3: I was discriminated against, I was mistreated. I had a

993
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Speaker 3: conversation about possibility and redemption and forgiveness, which I think

994
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Speaker 3: is the universal language of love that can create all

995
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Speaker 3: kinds of miracles that certainly did in my life.

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Speaker 4: So what's the goal for the fun now? Right?

997
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Speaker 5: The one hundred million is there, and I would you know,

998
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Speaker 5: especially in our community, when anything is awarded, there's a microscope.

999
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Speaker 4: What are you going to do? When is it going

1000
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Speaker 4: to happen? How fast can it happen? Right? Where?

1001
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Speaker 5: I don't think with the chef and Dally Parton, It's

1002
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Speaker 5: going to be a similar situation too.

1003
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Speaker 4: So do you.

1004
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 5: Feel that that type of pressure or angst when it

1005
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Speaker 5: comes to it and of the plans for it.

1006
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Speaker 3: Look, I immediately it just almost had to turn my

1007
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Speaker 3: phone off because so many people, you know, they didn't

1008
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Speaker 3: bum rush to your point.

1009
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Speaker 6: They didn't.

1010
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Speaker 3: They didn't bum rush the chef or Dolly, but they

1011
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 3: definitely bum rushed me. I want to use the money

1012
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Speaker 3: to disrupt the incarceration industry as an investor, as a philanthropist,

1013
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 3: like I'm going, I'm changing even before your eyes, you know,

1014
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:35,839
Speaker 3: from being an advocate, a lawyer, not for profit guy,

1015
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Speaker 3: I see myself now more as being somebody I'm not

1016
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Speaker 3: trying to move Congress. I'm trying to move capital and

1017
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Speaker 3: I'm trying to move capital into companies that can disrupt

1018
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Speaker 3: the prison industry, that can disrupt the pollution in our communities,

1019
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:51,280
Speaker 3: they can disrupt poverty. And so you know, the plans

1020
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Speaker 3: for the for the money, you know, there's I think

1021
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Speaker 3: we did an article about it about it recently, but

1022
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Speaker 3: you know, we built an incubator to help company that

1023
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Speaker 3: want to disrupt the incarceration industry. The incarceration industry is

1024
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Speaker 3: an eighty billion dollar a year industry, ninety billion, ninety billion.

1025
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 4: Every year just to lock us up.

1026
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 3: There's zero alignment of financial incentives for anybody in that

1027
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 3: industry to help us. It's only to help hurt us.

1028
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Speaker 3: So first, if you're a warden of a prison, public, private,

1029
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Speaker 3: I don't care. You have ten guys in your care

1030
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Speaker 3: for ten years, one hundred thousand dollars a piece. I'm

1031
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 3: not good at man, that's a lot of money. Okay,

1032
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 3: So you spent that much money locking these ten guys up.

1033
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Speaker 3: If they leave on Friday, and God forbid all ten

1034
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Speaker 3: of them kill somebody, and they're back in your care

1035
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Speaker 3: Monday morning, you don't get fired.

1036
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Speaker 4: Nobody asks you, wait a minute.

1037
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Speaker 3: You spend how many millions of dollars on these guys

1038
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Speaker 3: and they didn't do any better than that, You don't

1039
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Speaker 3: get fired at all. Or better case scenario, suppose a

1040
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Speaker 3: year from now, all ten of them win a Nobel

1041
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 3: Peace Prize. You don't get a raise, you don't get

1042
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 3: a promotion, you don't get a thank you. There's no

1043
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 3: alignment of financial incentives at all. You're in charge of

1044
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 3: all these people, and no matter what happens, and you're

1045
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 3: going to have a job, and in fact you'll get

1046
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 3: more money. They keep coming back. So that's an incarceration industry.

1047
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 3: Well I'll call on a second now that have more

1048
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Speaker 3: of a billionaire perspective. I'm looking at this industry, say, well,

1049
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 3: on a second. They disrupted the taxi industry with Uber

1050
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:28,240
Speaker 3: and Lyft, different technology, different model. They disrupted hotels with Airbnb,

1051
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 3: different technology, different model. They disrupted all of retail with

1052
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 3: Amazon dot Com, different technology, different model. They disrupted the

1053
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 3: whole dirty energy thing with solar panels and electric vehicles

1054
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 3: and wind turbines. Different technology, different model. How come nobody

1055
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 3: has tried to disrupt the incarceration industry, the industry that

1056
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 3: does the most damage to our community, that makes the

1057
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 3: most money off of our payment suffering. They continue to

1058
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 3: group produce over and over again, repeat customers through a

1059
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 3: revolving door, and nobody's trying to disrupt it. Nobody's spent

1060
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 3: a pen need to disrupt it. Nobody's created at one

1061
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 3: incubator to put companies together. They can say, give me

1062
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 3: that sister, give me that brother. I'll educate them, I'll

1063
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 3: get them better nutrition. Nobody that's my job.

1064
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 8: So how do what kind of companies would disrupt?

1065
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 3: Okay? Okay, So for instance, we built an incubator. Is

1066
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 3: a company called RASA that we invested in, and we

1067
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 3: can We can do that because he's made it as

1068
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 3: a program related investment, so I'm not making money off

1069
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 3: of it, but the fund you can return money to

1070
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 3: the fund. So this is not evangels making money. But

1071
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 3: this company called Rassa very simple. Uh, take something like

1072
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 3: prison expungement of prison records. Okay in the states where

1073
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 3: that's allowed. Well, if if you get your record expunge,

1074
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 3: you can get any job in the world you want to.

1075
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Speaker 3: If you can't get your record expunge, you're going to

1076
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 3: be stuck in a low level, which why a lot

1077
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 3: of guys wind up going back to what they're doing

1078
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:54,879
Speaker 3: before because they.

1079
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Speaker 6: Can't make no money.

1080
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Speaker 4: So that's a part of the revolving door.

1081
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Speaker 3: Well, why don't people take advantage of expungement because you

1082
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 3: have to hire a lawyer and spend three to four

1083
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 3: thousand dollars to get your record expunge in the states

1084
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Speaker 3: where that's allowed, which means rich folk get their records

1085
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:14,359
Speaker 3: expunge and poor folk don't. So we put money into

1086
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 3: a company that has an app that can get your

1087
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 3: record expunge for five hundred dollars because they just basically,

1088
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 3: you know, use AI and just automate the whole thing.

1089
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 3: And so we by reducing the cost way down. Now

1090
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 3: way more people can get their records at sponge and so.

1091
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 3: But nobody wanted to bet on that company. What are

1092
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 3: you talking about, Like, is that even a thing. There's

1093
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 3: a massive market there, but nobody want to invest in

1094
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 3: that company. So, so that's a company. Now they will

1095
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 3: they're practically printing money now because somebody can change your

1096
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 3: whole life even you know, you can do a gofund

1097
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 3: me now and be able to do that in the

1098
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 3: States where where they're operating. There's another one used to

1099
00:53:55,080 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 3: be called conconnect. It's basically linked in AI powered LinkedIn

1100
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 3: for formally incarcerated people because what happens is you come home,

1101
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,359
Speaker 3: they say, okay, go get a job. Well, you only

1102
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 3: have so much everybody got only so much energy in

1103
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 3: their little battery. Even the energizer bunny eventually runs out.

1104
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 3: How many times can you go and apply for a

1105
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 3: job and get no no, no, no, no, no no

1106
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 3: no no before you give up but with this company,

1107
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 3: they changed the name recently, but it's usually called cond

1108
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 3: CONNECTI if you want to want to google it. They

1109
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 3: use AI to figure out very quickly, Okay, if you

1110
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,720
Speaker 3: got a home invasion thing on your record, you're probably

1111
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 3: not going to be doing cable installing. Okay, So there's

1112
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 3: certain things you're just not going to do. So they

1113
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 3: figure out very instantly based on your record, based on

1114
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 3: what you want to do. You know, where are they hurting,

1115
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 3: and so it radically accelerates the process by which people

1116
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 3: leave jail and get a job. But because it turns

1117
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 3: out formally incarcerated people, if they get a job, they're

1118
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 3: very loyal. So it's actually to the benefit of the

1119
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 3: employer to get people from that population because they don't

1120
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 3: feel they can just go quit, quit and go get

1121
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 3: twelve more jobs. So you're gonna save a bunch of

1122
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 3: money hiring people coming home because you're not gonna have

1123
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 3: to replace that person. So it's a benefit all the

1124
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 3: way around. But using technology to get a win win

1125
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 3: win for the employer. So these companies did not have

1126
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 3: an incubator, didn't have that kind of help, so we

1127
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 3: built that for them. So people are like, well, what

1128
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 3: are you doing with the money? I said, guys, I

1129
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 3: could just pass the money out and just give everybody

1130
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:28,840
Speaker 3: a book bag, you know what I mean, like turkeys,

1131
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I mean, none wrong with that,

1132
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 3: nothing wrong with that. We give back, you know what

1133
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:34,919
Speaker 3: I mean, and everybody all is so wonderful or whatever.

1134
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 3: I can take a bunch of pictures, a bunch of

1135
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:39,760
Speaker 3: kids or whatever. But then the next year the money's

1136
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 3: gone and it cans, you know, another book back.

1137
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 8: It's not sustainable.

1138
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 3: It's not sustainable and so and we have plenty of those.

1139
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 3: And by the way, the other people can do that.

1140
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 3: And so I'm taking a lot of heat from people like, well,

1141
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 3: what's he doing the money? What's he doing with the money?

1142
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 3: The good thing is I'm fifty five. I'm not twenty five.

1143
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 6: I've had thirty years to watch a lot of stuff fail.

1144
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 3: From which I was doing that we thought was gonna

1145
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 3: have a good outcome, didn't have a good outcome.

1146
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 4: And it's good to be in my fifties. Now.

1147
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:10,800
Speaker 3: I'm not working on my resume. I got a great resume.

1148
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 3: I'm working on my oh beed, I'm working on my

1149
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 3: oh bit. What did I do that really made a difference,

1150
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 3: whether I got the credit for it or not. What

1151
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 3: did I do there? Like my father, you know, he

1152
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:26,720
Speaker 3: really made a difference. I still can't go home without

1153
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 3: somebody come up to me in the convenience store at Walmart.

1154
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:30,359
Speaker 8: You will at your own son.

1155
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 6: He used to beat my ass with a paddle.

1156
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:36,959
Speaker 4: I mean, like, I mean the type of difference maker

1157
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:38,399
Speaker 4: we need. You know what I mean.

1158
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 3: So for me, like, I take this very very seriously.

1159
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 3: If there's some way for us to so, then if

1160
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 3: we bet on these companies and they do well, we

1161
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 3: get the money back, we can bet on another one.

1162
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 3: I'm trying to build.

1163
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,399
Speaker 8: It like a VC model.

1164
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 7: That's what you're implementing. V. How much money have you

1165
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:57,399
Speaker 7: have you distributed so far?

1166
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 5: We still have more than half the capital, more than

1167
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:03,319
Speaker 5: the kind does it start every year it's the same

1168
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 5: investment or is it just one hundred Of.

1169
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 4: Course I have one hundred and lump sum.

1170
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 3: Then and if I haven't deployed all the capital, all

1171
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 3: the initial capital in ten years now it is in

1172
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 3: eight years, then it goes back. So basically, so basically

1173
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 3: here's one hundred million dollars. You have have ten years

1174
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 3: to figure it out.

1175
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 7: Is the money growing, Is it an investment or is

1176
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 7: it just well we'll see what I'm saying, Like the

1177
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 7: fifty that you haven't spent, Yeah yeah.

1178
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 3: Let me Yeah, that's that's all. And you know, stocks

1179
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 3: and bonds that type of stuff. But the stuff that

1180
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 3: we're making bets and listen, so.

1181
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 7: All your money is going into companies, into private company,

1182
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 7: you're not putting money into like.

1183
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 6: Well, programs. That's the center of the of the bulls eye.

1184
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 3: But my real game I'm playing has to do with

1185
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 3: how can I manipulate financial incentives to get better outcomes

1186
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 3: trock community. That's the real game I'm playing. So if

1187
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 3: I can figure out financial incentives for people to use

1188
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 3: technolology to help people come home from jail, I'll play

1189
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 3: that game. But here's another game, which is not a business.

1190
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 3: There's a brother's name, Pastor Carl Day in Philadelphia. Yeah,

1191
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 3: I mean they call it Philadelphia for you know a reason.

1192
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 4: And it's not like it was when I was coming up.

1193
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 3: People aren't killing each other over turf and drugs like

1194
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 3: you know, percocets, Like the drug trade is not what

1195
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 3: it used to be. It's pills and percocets, it's not

1196
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 3: people are making people killing each other over just disis.

1197
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 3: Oh you know, somebody posted something on a on an

1198
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 3: Instagram or TikTok and and and and so there's a

1199
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 3: lot of just random chaotic violence because people just don't

1200
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 3: have much direction. And I met this guy, Pastor Carl Day,

1201
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 3: and he's just a genius. I mean, he's formally incarcerated,

1202
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 3: you know, found you know, God in prison, came out.

1203
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 3: He's like the pastor of the hood. And when when

1204
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 3: you know, gunfire goes off, grandmoms will call him befo.

1205
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 8: They call the cops where is he at North Philly?

1206
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 3: All over Philly. But in fact he's one of the

1207
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 3: few people that can be all over Philly. And that's

1208
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 3: the crazy thing about him, Like he's he's not turfed

1209
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 3: out anywhere. Everybody respects him. And so I was talking

1210
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 3: about it what he was doing, and he educated me.

1211
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 3: You know, he said, all these a lot of these

1212
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 3: anti violence programs, they're not even touching the kids who

1213
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 3: are violent. They might have five hundred kids in the program.

1214
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 3: These are like b students, you know what I mean,

1215
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 3: they haven't been violent their whole life. And then they're

1216
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 3: hiring people who went to college with whiteboards and stuff,

1217
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 3: who also are not violent. So these big programs are

1218
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 3: basically getting b students after school activities. And he's paying

1219
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 3: off student loans for college graduates. But if a truly

1220
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 3: violent kid walked in there, they call the cops, you

1221
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 3: know what I mean. So he's like this, He's like,

1222
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 3: he's like, hey, listen, I'm trying to I'm trying to

1223
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 3: go see my grandma's you know. So it's not it's

1224
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 3: not honest. But this dude is talking to the actual

1225
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 3: cats that actually have their hands on guns, who are

1226
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 3: actually doing stuff that everybody's scared of. And he said,

1227
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 3: if I could just have one hundred days with these guys,

1228
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 3: I could help them turn their lives around. Say well,

1229
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 3: what do you need to go? He'd be able to

1230
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 3: pay them. I said, what do you mean pay them?

1231
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 3: He goes, well, look, these college kids are getting paid

1232
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 3: on violence. Everybody's getting paid on violence except the violent people.

1233
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 3: We want to get a thousand dollars spent to talk

1234
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 3: about one hundred thousand or a million dollars to talk

1235
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,439
Speaker 3: about the people talking about the people talking about the kids.

1236
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 4: And nobody's talking to the kids but.

1237
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 3: Me I said, you know what, let me make a

1238
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 3: bet on you. So we wrote a substantial check for

1239
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 3: him to start a pilot, just prove that at a

1240
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 3: lower dollar amount he could save more lives. So what

1241
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 3: he did was he just once the guys. He knew

1242
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 3: who they were. So I'll pay you to come off

1243
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 3: the corner. I'll pay you to sit down here with

1244
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 3: me every day. We're going to go through this one

1245
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 3: hundred day plan. We're gonna do all this self improvement anger,

1246
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:54,919
Speaker 3: all this sort of stuff, and you can get an

1247
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 3: actual job.

1248
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 6: And what crazy thing was?

1249
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 4: You know?

1250
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 3: One of the guys like, I can't get a job.

1251
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 3: And I said, what do you You can't get a job

1252
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 3: because I can't get a job. Well, yeah, you got

1253
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 3: credinal record, but no, I can't get a job. What

1254
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 3: are you talking about? He goes, if you got me

1255
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 3: a job at subway, my ops would drive by and

1256
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 3: see me in there, and they'd drive back by and

1257
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 3: shoot the whole place up. I can't get a job.

1258
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 3: What are you talking about? Pastor said, warehouses? What if

1259
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 3: we got you a job from ten pm to six

1260
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 3: am in a warehouse?

1261
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 4: You get paid that way? The guy said, I'll do.

1262
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 3: It eighty eight percent. Well, first of all, nine seven

1263
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 3: percent of the kids who went to that program are

1264
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 3: employed or have their own LLCs. One hundred percent of

1265
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:45,920
Speaker 3: retro to vote, they all have their driver's license or whatever.

1266
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 3: The three percent is the one kid that got killed. Okay,

1267
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 3: so it's really life or death like that. But what

1268
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 3: we were able to demonstrate was incentivize peace. If these

1269
01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 3: are the people who are having the problems, put the

1270
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 3: money in their pocket, them into a program, help them out,

1271
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 3: get them a job.

1272
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 6: It's appropriate. Now these folks.

1273
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:07,440
Speaker 3: Are, they're employed, they have their own businesses, they're using

1274
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 3: their leadership in a different way.

1275
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 4: And it was a radically.

1276
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 3: Less expensive than these other programs that literally are just

1277
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:15,920
Speaker 3: counting the number of noses of people that they talked to.

1278
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 3: We had one hundred contacts with troubled youth contacts. That's

1279
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 3: not saving any lives. So again, what's the game I'm playing.

1280
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 3: I'm trying to figure out. Okay, can I change the

1281
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:32,439
Speaker 3: financial incentive on the street. Incentivise you to invest in yourself,

1282
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 3: don't yell at you and tell you what you should do.

1283
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 3: Incentivis you to do it.

1284
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:37,480
Speaker 7: Financial Like somebody said something like you don't scare a

1285
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 7: straight program. And the idea is to take kids to

1286
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:42,479
Speaker 7: jail and to scare them so they don't go to jail.

1287
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 7: But it's like, instead of trying to scare somebody, won't

1288
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:48,120
Speaker 7: you try to inspire them. Yeah, So instead of invest it,

1289
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:51,080
Speaker 7: they'll take them to corporate, take them to Africa, take

1290
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 7: them to different things where they can actually expand their

1291
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:56,919
Speaker 7: horizons and like you said, mentorship and as a post,

1292
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 7: they're taking them to the.

1293
01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 8: Worst place possible. We as a deterrent to to not go.

1294
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 7: And once you said and like you said, most of

1295
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 7: those kids that are going to ski straight are even

1296
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 7: going to jail anywhere exactly, they came.

1297
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 4: To middle school and it was like a permission slip.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, like a field, I don't go home and

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Speaker 5: ask my can I go to jail?

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Speaker 4: This is just not gonna work. It's not gonna work

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Speaker 4: at all.

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Speaker 5: And one of the percentages that are very important that

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Speaker 5: you're enough because the program you just described was beat

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01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 5: the block. Yes, beat the block fifty percent of though

1305
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 5: the people are starting their own business.

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01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:30,160
Speaker 4: Yes, So that changes it.

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Speaker 5: And so now I'm looking at this as an ecosystem

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Speaker 5: that you've built right, we got the Reform Alliance, and

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Speaker 5: you got the fund which is creating an incubator for technology,

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Speaker 5: and I got a question about that. But you also

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Speaker 5: have another system that's keeping people from going to the

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Speaker 5: system exactly. And so on your vision board is this

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Speaker 5: how you planned it? Or are these things happening? And

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Speaker 5: I can improve on this, I can change this, I

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01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 5: can change this.

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Speaker 3: I'm learning as I go. I didn't understand a lot

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Speaker 3: of things, man, Like, that's the question a business person

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Speaker 3: would ask, right, And I didn't know to think that way.

1319
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Speaker 6: You know, when you come.

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Speaker 3: Out of kind of rapid response mode, grassroots mode for

1321
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 3: thirty years, you just kind of like, oh, here's the

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Speaker 3: opportune here.

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Speaker 6: You aren't thinking in a business way.

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Speaker 3: And so in the two years that I've had the grant,

1325
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Speaker 3: I've actually realized, Okay, some stuff I'm doing doesn't make sense,

1326
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 3: Like that's not the right way. I've had to bring

1327
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Speaker 3: in different advisors. So I wish I could say, you know,

1328
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 3: if I was the dishonest person, I'd say, yes, you know,

1329
01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 3: I had this master's strategy. I was going to build

1330
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 3: this ecologics and was like no. It was like I

1331
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 3: met some people that I thought were frankly deserving of

1332
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Speaker 3: a bigger bet than they were getting.

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Speaker 6: And then I learned, Now.

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Speaker 4: Though.

1335
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Speaker 3: You know, there's a machine that needs to get built.

1336
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 3: It's going to take ten years to build. It's gonna

1337
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 3: take a lot more than low money I have. But

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Speaker 3: I'm beginning to see a kind of a job's not jails,

1339
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 3: machine that needs to get built. And there's a way

1340
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:10,480
Speaker 3: that there can be some thilanthropic stuff. There can be

1341
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 3: some VC stuff, there can be some enterprise, there can

1342
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:16,440
Speaker 3: be some technology. All the stuff I was doing with

1343
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:20,960
Speaker 3: protest signs and lawsuits and voting campaigns when I was

1344
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 3: in my twenties and thirties, I think I can better

1345
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:27,000
Speaker 3: do with my pitchies and sixties with capital and building

1346
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 3: a machine that can take some of those young folks

1347
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 3: out of a pastor Carls beat the Block program. Wouldn't

1348
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 3: it be amazing if we could move them? Okay, now

1349
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:38,439
Speaker 3: you're not in trouble anymore. You start your own little company.

1350
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:40,960
Speaker 3: Now we'll put your company in an incubator. Now we

1351
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:43,920
Speaker 3: take the incubator. Now we can pass you up the line. Okay,

1352
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 3: now you're going to sign Valley. Okay, now you're going

1353
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 3: to Davos, Right, that's what I want to do.

1354
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 5: Well, let me just follow out really quickly because it

1355
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:55,320
Speaker 5: happens in Philly, but it also can happen in New York.

1356
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 4: Yes, it could happen in Baltimore.

1357
01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:58,600
Speaker 5: Yes, once we get the pilot, right, once the pilot

1358
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 5: is the incubation the part is interested in because I'm

1359
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:04,640
Speaker 5: and this is something that we've seen from private equity

1360
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:10,680
Speaker 5: and VC finding companies that we can actually put in

1361
01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:11,440
Speaker 5: the pipeline.

1362
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Speaker 4: What's the challenges there? Right?

1363
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 5: We find because a lot of times we want to

1364
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:17,400
Speaker 5: invest in people that look like us, yes, but we

1365
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:18,920
Speaker 5: have to have people that look like us that are

1366
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 5: creating the companies that we can invest in.

1367
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Speaker 4: So it's the duality is it becomes a struggle, right Yeah.

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Speaker 3: As an investor, you know, the pipeline problem is the

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01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:30,920
Speaker 3: biggest problem, Like how do you find how do you

1370
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Speaker 3: find great companies that somebody had already put all the

1371
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:34,840
Speaker 3: money into you, Like, you got to find a great

1372
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 3: company right before they're going to prove themselves you can

1373
01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:41,480
Speaker 3: get in uh, and then you got to be able

1374
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:44,080
Speaker 3: to support those portfolio companies so that they can actually

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01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 3: meet their full potential. And the thing is once you

1376
01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:47,960
Speaker 3: put the money in there. You know, it's kind of

1377
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:50,479
Speaker 3: like different between dating and being married. When you're dating,

1378
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 3: you're getting all the good news, your diligence process, you're

1379
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 3: doing all you can to try to figure out what's

1380
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 3: really going on. Once you put the money, and then

1381
01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:57,880
Speaker 3: you find out what's really happening, you're like, oh, lord, like,

1382
01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 3: we got a bunch of problems fixing clean.

1383
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 4: Now we need to.

1384
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 6: Bring and so I'm learning, man, like, how did how?

1385
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:05,480
Speaker 4: How you do this?

1386
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:09,640
Speaker 3: But part of the pipeline problem that is solved for

1387
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:13,720
Speaker 3: us on this incubator because it's a a sister fund

1388
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 3: called the Decarceration Fund, and they've already uh diligence I

1389
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:21,840
Speaker 3: think one hundred plus companies they want to investing in

1390
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 3: about five. We invest in in four. So right now

1391
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 3: we're kind of surfing along the back of their diligence process.

1392
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 3: But because we can bring capital, then you know it's

1393
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:33,720
Speaker 3: a good partnership there. But these are the type of

1394
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:39,640
Speaker 3: problems that you get into. Very few social change entrepreneurs

1395
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:44,520
Speaker 3: like myself have had access to this much unrestricted capital

1396
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:48,000
Speaker 3: to play these games with, to to make these kinds

1397
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Speaker 3: of of of of investments and moves, and so I'm

1398
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Speaker 3: learning a lot.

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Speaker 8: Green took politics for a minute.

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01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:03,360
Speaker 7: So super PACs is something that I think is very interesting,

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01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:05,360
Speaker 7: and I think I had a conversation with one of

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01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 7: my friends, and you know, I feel like amongst young people,

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01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 7: there's a strong disbelief of the political system because they've

1404
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:17,559
Speaker 7: seen black people vote for a long period of time,

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01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 7: mostly democratic, and not much has really changed, or the

1406
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 7: socio economic situation has definitely not changed, probably even has

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01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 7: gotten worse, And so a lot of people have the

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01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 7: frame of mind that voting is a waste of time.

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01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:34,479
Speaker 7: And I was saying that I don't agree with that,

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01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 7: but I understand it because just voting just for the

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01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:43,519
Speaker 7: sake of voting is not beneficial with no economic power

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01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 7: put behind it. So we interviewed a congressman and he

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01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:49,559
Speaker 7: was saying that when he first got elected, from the

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01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:51,080
Speaker 7: first thing he got elected, all the way to the

1415
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:53,320
Speaker 7: time that we interviewed him, he's gotten calls every single

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01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:56,639
Speaker 7: day from super PACs. Everybody from the is really super packed,

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01:08:56,640 --> 01:09:01,160
Speaker 7: to the pro abortion super pac to the pro everybody's

1418
01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:04,080
Speaker 7: given them, NRA, everybody right, and he's like the only

1419
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:06,240
Speaker 7: people that he's never gotten a phone call is a

1420
01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:08,800
Speaker 7: black super pac. I don't know if there is any

1421
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 7: black super PACs. So talk about that, because I don't

1422
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:15,599
Speaker 7: think that people are even fully educated to understand the

1423
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 7: importance of that and the economics behind the politics, which

1424
01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:24,800
Speaker 7: is actually, in my opinion, more important than any other

1425
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:25,760
Speaker 7: aspect of it.

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Speaker 3: So this this is complicated because there's two there's two

1427
01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:39,240
Speaker 3: different ways that politicians get approaching. They get approach based

1428
01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:44,679
Speaker 3: on issues, stop police brutality. We don't believe in abortion,

1429
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 3: that's issues. And they get approach based on interest. Okay,

1430
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:51,920
Speaker 3: I'm a coal company. I need you to pass loss

1431
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:54,919
Speaker 3: and support the coal industry my economic interests.

1432
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:56,799
Speaker 6: I'm a solar company.

1433
01:09:56,840 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 3: I need you to pass to support the solar come

1434
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:06,920
Speaker 3: based on my economic interests as a solar manufacturer. For

1435
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:12,519
Speaker 3: most communities, most ethnic groups, frankly, they spend most of

1436
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:16,599
Speaker 3: their money on the second one. Like they go and

1437
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:22,920
Speaker 3: they say, pass tax breaks to help my business, tax

1438
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:27,040
Speaker 3: past regulations that will help my business. That's what eighty

1439
01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:32,759
Speaker 3: percent of politics is. We don't have a coherent strategy

1440
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:36,280
Speaker 3: as black people to know what industries we're trying to protect.

1441
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:40,679
Speaker 3: So for instance, suppose we decided, well, you black people

1442
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:44,599
Speaker 3: are going to own all of AI related entertainment. That's

1443
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:46,680
Speaker 3: what we're gonna do. We're gonna focus on that. We're

1444
01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:49,080
Speaker 3: gonna launch companies based on that. We're gonna make sure

1445
01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:52,719
Speaker 3: that our entertainers and our athletes are all built into that.

1446
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:58,360
Speaker 3: That's our industry is entertainment meets AI. We're gonna build

1447
01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:00,799
Speaker 3: the Disney of that. We're gonna build it the motown

1448
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:01,160
Speaker 3: of that.

1449
01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:01,759
Speaker 4: Okay.

1450
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:06,080
Speaker 3: Now, when you call a politician, you're saying, look, pass

1451
01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 3: this law just to protect this industry. I'm going to

1452
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 3: make a ton more money than I would have, and

1453
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:16,679
Speaker 3: I'll give you a donation. The fact that no black

1454
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:18,599
Speaker 3: people can do that gives you a sense of how

1455
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:19,920
Speaker 3: bad our strategy is.

1456
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:23,280
Speaker 6: Like you have to pick Remember when I hope I

1457
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 6: don't pick anybody else.

1458
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:28,040
Speaker 3: Do you remember when the Ethiopians, like every time you

1459
01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:31,840
Speaker 3: went to a parking garage, it was Ethiopians that was

1460
01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:33,920
Speaker 3: It was just in California, But there was a time

1461
01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:37,240
Speaker 3: when they had just targeted like parking garage.

1462
01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:39,759
Speaker 8: It's like the hotel and motel industry with Indians.

1463
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:43,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, you pick something and then you dominate that, and

1464
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:46,760
Speaker 3: you protect that politically, and then you start putting your

1465
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:49,240
Speaker 3: kids into different schools and whatever you branch out from that.

1466
01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:51,920
Speaker 3: Our problem is we never have been able to figure

1467
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:54,840
Speaker 3: out how to dominate where we show up. So we

1468
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:57,599
Speaker 3: show up right now in the entertainment industry. That's really

1469
01:11:57,600 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 3: where we show up the strongest. In sports and sports,

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01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:02,640
Speaker 3: so sports, music, entertainment, film, that whole thing.

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Speaker 4: So all of our ability.

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Speaker 3: So the Lebron comes out of that, Jacy comes out

1473
01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:07,200
Speaker 3: of that, Tyler Perry comes out of that, Opra coomes

1474
01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:09,559
Speaker 3: out of that. That's where we have been able to dominate.

1475
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:11,960
Speaker 3: But there are other sectors in other industries that we

1476
01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 3: could dominate if we decided to do it. So I

1477
01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:17,479
Speaker 3: just want to point out the mere fact that we're

1478
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 3: talking about a super pac for issues for black issues

1479
01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:22,000
Speaker 3: and not super pack for black business.

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01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:27,560
Speaker 8: I would say, so it's not a super pack for reparations.

1481
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:30,880
Speaker 7: It should be a super pack for the music industry

1482
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:34,920
Speaker 7: to protect the artist. That's more beneficial than trying to

1483
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 7: do a social I would issue.

1484
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 3: I would say that we should at least have a

1485
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:42,639
Speaker 3: double barreled approach. We need to do a better job

1486
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:45,200
Speaker 3: of getting government to help our businesses. That's all I'm saying.

1487
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:47,719
Speaker 3: Government should be helping our businesses. Government should be helping

1488
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:51,200
Speaker 3: our entrepreneurs and not saying that people haven't thought about

1489
01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 3: that and tried. Is difficult, but that's going to give

1490
01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:57,320
Speaker 3: you more of return on investment. That said, issues matter

1491
01:12:57,400 --> 01:13:01,200
Speaker 3: to and we should have we should organize our money better,

1492
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:04,760
Speaker 3: and I believe Charles Phillips and some other guys we're

1493
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:07,120
Speaker 3: working on that the last election cycle, to try to

1494
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:10,840
Speaker 3: organize black money around black issues. It's true if a

1495
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:12,920
Speaker 3: politicians they need to things, they need money in votes.

1496
01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:16,080
Speaker 3: Black people show up saying we'll give you votes, White

1497
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:19,320
Speaker 3: people saying will give you money, and so.

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01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:20,200
Speaker 8: They use here's my thing.

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01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 7: I'm a registered independent good I lean towards Democratic social

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01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:32,040
Speaker 7: issues pre liberal, I lean towards Republicans when it comes

1501
01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:38,719
Speaker 7: to the economy. I personally feel that the Democratic Party

1502
01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:41,040
Speaker 7: has used black people to get votes because, like you said,

1503
01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:44,439
Speaker 7: we have a lot of numbers in key states, so

1504
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 7: that they pandered to the votes. They go to like

1505
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:50,880
Speaker 7: churches and they do the whole thing. But then that's it.

1506
01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:52,360
Speaker 7: It's like we just get the votes and that's it.

1507
01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:55,000
Speaker 7: Like you said, other groups will come with money, so

1508
01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 7: we need your votes to get elected, but then we're

1509
01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:01,000
Speaker 7: going to actually cater our policy to the people that's

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01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:03,760
Speaker 7: giving us the money. Everybody's kind of in on it.

1511
01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:05,519
Speaker 7: The people that's given them the money probably know that

1512
01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 7: as well. Only people that's kind of left out in

1513
01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 7: the whim are just black people because they just left

1514
01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:15,840
Speaker 7: hopelessly voting over and over again, because it's been drilled

1515
01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:18,679
Speaker 7: in our head like this is our pathway to succeed.

1516
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:20,599
Speaker 7: It's like going to college, right, this is our pathway

1517
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:22,720
Speaker 7: to succeed until you realize, dam well, I have a

1518
01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:25,280
Speaker 7: liberal arts degree, I'm unemployed, I'm thirty years old, and

1519
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:27,880
Speaker 7: I have one hundred thousand dollars doent loans. This didn't

1520
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:30,320
Speaker 7: work out the way that they told me it would.

1521
01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:34,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, look, I mean I'm gonna shock you and say

1522
01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:37,920
Speaker 3: I don't disagree with anything you just said.

1523
01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:39,320
Speaker 4: Some stuff is.

1524
01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:46,640
Speaker 3: Frankly white racism, think of the certain outcomes. But some

1525
01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:51,840
Speaker 3: stuff is bad Black strategy, and it's sometimes hard to

1526
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:55,160
Speaker 3: know where one starts on the other stops. We should

1527
01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:59,519
Speaker 3: be much more strategic in how we vote and who

1528
01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:04,439
Speaker 3: we support. Work when you create a situation where one

1529
01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:06,800
Speaker 3: party can just take you for granted and the other

1530
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:08,040
Speaker 3: party can just write you off.

1531
01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:11,120
Speaker 4: Then you lose leverage. And so it's.

1532
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 3: Important that we actually and you know you Diddy and

1533
01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:15,599
Speaker 3: other people. I'm not the only one that it said this.

1534
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:19,519
Speaker 3: It's important that we are a lot smarter. What I

1535
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:24,040
Speaker 3: will say is as bad as things are for us,

1536
01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:28,320
Speaker 3: if we stop voting, they will get worse. That's why

1537
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:31,080
Speaker 3: I said, you don't vote to get what you want

1538
01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:33,439
Speaker 3: any business for that. But if you don't vote, you

1539
01:15:33,479 --> 01:15:35,760
Speaker 3: can lose what you've got. And so we do have

1540
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:37,040
Speaker 3: to continue to vote.

1541
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:37,160
Speaker 4: Now.

1542
01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:40,599
Speaker 3: Listen, people want to vote for Republicans, Democrats, Libertarians, Green Party.

1543
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:42,200
Speaker 3: I don't care who you vote for, but you do

1544
01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:45,920
Speaker 3: need to vote. Because my view is people say it's

1545
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:47,200
Speaker 3: a waste of time. It's not waste of a lot

1546
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:48,439
Speaker 3: of time. It's like waste of an hour or two,

1547
01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:50,280
Speaker 3: which you're probably going to use. Anybody's been an hour

1548
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:52,280
Speaker 3: on your social media today, So it's not the waste

1549
01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:55,920
Speaker 3: that much time. But I think it's important. But here's

1550
01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:59,519
Speaker 3: what I would I want us to have a strategy.

1551
01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:04,519
Speaker 3: That's what's missing. And the strategy can't always be about

1552
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:07,360
Speaker 3: who's going to be the president or the mayor. That's

1553
01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:09,040
Speaker 3: only going to affect so much. It can get a

1554
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:10,720
Speaker 3: lot worse for you have the wrong one, but it's

1555
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:12,040
Speaker 3: not gonna get that much better for you your other

1556
01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:13,639
Speaker 3: right one if you don't have other stuff in place.

1557
01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:16,000
Speaker 3: That's why you guys are so important. We have to

1558
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:17,720
Speaker 3: put other stuff in place. And by the way, if

1559
01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:19,400
Speaker 3: we build a black business class, it's gonna be a

1560
01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:22,400
Speaker 3: lot more black conservatives because you're gonna have a lot

1561
01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:24,720
Speaker 3: of black business people are gonna want to vote for

1562
01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:27,120
Speaker 3: the party that's more for business. So we're gonna have

1563
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:28,960
Speaker 3: a little bit more political diversity in the community. And

1564
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:32,960
Speaker 3: that's okay. But what I but here's the thing that

1565
01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:35,680
Speaker 3: I'm concerned about. Let's go back what I said at

1566
01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:39,519
Speaker 3: the very beginning. If we're going to have a new

1567
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:43,640
Speaker 3: human civilization with all this new technology being built by

1568
01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:46,040
Speaker 3: people who don't look like us, trying to solve problems,

1569
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:48,760
Speaker 3: they're not our problems. Making money off of stuff that

1570
01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:51,360
Speaker 3: you know is never going to come back to our community.

1571
01:16:51,680 --> 01:16:55,439
Speaker 3: That's a big problem. That's a big problem. That's a

1572
01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:57,960
Speaker 3: multi trillion dollar problem that we can't vote our way

1573
01:16:57,960 --> 01:17:02,120
Speaker 3: out of. We're gonna we're gonna have to Nothing good

1574
01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:05,240
Speaker 3: happens for black people on accident. Nothing good happens to

1575
01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:10,840
Speaker 3: black people accidentally. It requires planning, It requires persistence, it

1576
01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:14,800
Speaker 3: requires purpose. And in this century, the last century, you

1577
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:16,960
Speaker 3: can vote in protests and maybe you'll get something done.

1578
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:20,760
Speaker 3: In this century, you're gonna have to launch businesses. You're

1579
01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:23,479
Speaker 3: gonna have to attract capital that's going to use this

1580
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:27,040
Speaker 3: technology to help us either get us more money or

1581
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:29,960
Speaker 3: solve our problems. That's what I'm trying to do. We

1582
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:32,080
Speaker 3: have problems with the criminal justice system. I want to

1583
01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:35,320
Speaker 3: launch businesses. I want to move capital that can disrupt

1584
01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:38,719
Speaker 3: that whole industry. I want all ninety billion that's supposedly

1585
01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:40,400
Speaker 3: being spent to keep our community safe. I want it

1586
01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:43,479
Speaker 3: in the pockets of black entrepreneurs who actually can't keep

1587
01:17:43,479 --> 01:17:46,639
Speaker 3: our community safe. And until that happens, I'm not gonna stop.

1588
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:49,240
Speaker 3: That's different than saying I want to I want to

1589
01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:54,519
Speaker 3: outlaw police brutality. It's a different conversation. I'm gonna build

1590
01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:57,839
Speaker 3: a set of business interests to fight the other business

1591
01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:00,400
Speaker 3: interests and then use government to support my business interests

1592
01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:01,000
Speaker 3: over theirs.

1593
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:02,439
Speaker 4: We've never done that before.

1594
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:06,599
Speaker 3: And so if we can take our political genius, if

1595
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:10,360
Speaker 3: we can take our entertainers and our cultural influencers, and

1596
01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:14,320
Speaker 3: then put the business people at the table erase or chalkboard.

1597
01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:17,200
Speaker 3: While we used to do it and design that strategy,

1598
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:20,080
Speaker 3: we can win. Yeah, and voting will be a part

1599
01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:22,760
Speaker 3: of it. It just won't be the only It'll be

1600
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:24,439
Speaker 3: a smaller part of it than it used to be.

1601
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:25,400
Speaker 4: Extremely impressive.

1602
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:28,200
Speaker 5: My last question, I just want just a final thought

1603
01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:30,040
Speaker 5: for you, because I know you're gonna close it up

1604
01:18:30,040 --> 01:18:33,960
Speaker 5: a little bit. You talked about legacy. You came into it,

1605
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:37,559
Speaker 5: wanted to be greater than your dad. Tough mission, yeah,

1606
01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:39,439
Speaker 5: impossible mission.

1607
01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:41,519
Speaker 4: But you are creating a legacy for yourself.

1608
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:44,800
Speaker 5: And so I'm wondering as you're navigating through the space

1609
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:47,240
Speaker 5: you did nonprofit, now you're in business. You've been in

1610
01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:49,920
Speaker 5: some rooms that most people will never be in. What

1611
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:52,679
Speaker 5: are some of the biggest lessons that you've learned now

1612
01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:53,759
Speaker 5: in the world of business.

1613
01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:55,679
Speaker 8: M hmm.

1614
01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:05,120
Speaker 6: I'm worthy. I'm worthy. I had a lot of.

1615
01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:16,400
Speaker 8: Shame, self doubt, impasta syndrome, shame, shame for what.

1616
01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:27,120
Speaker 4: My dad was tough on me. He was tough. I

1617
01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:27,640
Speaker 4: admire him.

1618
01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:29,160
Speaker 6: I'll never catch him.

1619
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:29,640
Speaker 2: Uh.

1620
01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 3: He was tough on me, and I was sensitive and nerdy, goofy, bookish,

1621
01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:42,640
Speaker 3: and he was like a big you know, like you do,

1622
01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:50,599
Speaker 3: and it made me feel bad about myself.

1623
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:55,000
Speaker 4: I didn't think I was good enough to to be

1624
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:55,400
Speaker 4: his son.

1625
01:19:56,520 --> 01:20:03,960
Speaker 3: And so I realized I probably spent thirty years trying

1626
01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:08,080
Speaker 3: to overcompensate and improve and prove and do and do,

1627
01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:11,679
Speaker 3: and just trying to just to catch him, but also

1628
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:14,680
Speaker 3: to impress him. You know, hey, you know, I may

1629
01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:16,559
Speaker 3: I've been a football player and this type of stuff,

1630
01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:21,320
Speaker 3: but like I'm all right, I'm I've found out later

1631
01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:24,479
Speaker 3: that he was always saying good stuff behind my back

1632
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:28,360
Speaker 3: the whole time. He liked me, but he just thought

1633
01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:30,800
Speaker 3: that just cussing me out and pushing me and telling

1634
01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:32,360
Speaker 3: me that that that was this way you're supposed to

1635
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:34,720
Speaker 3: at NOK a drill sergeant. He comes out of the

1636
01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:36,320
Speaker 3: military as I was supposed to make a young man.

1637
01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:37,879
Speaker 3: But it hurt my feelings.

1638
01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:39,880
Speaker 4: Man look at me at his value in what I'm doing.

1639
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:42,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And so I spent a lot of time

1640
01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:45,880
Speaker 3: trying to prove something to him, trying to prove something

1641
01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:50,120
Speaker 3: to myself. But inside I didn't feel good about myself.

1642
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:51,680
Speaker 4: I felt.

1643
01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:54,720
Speaker 3: They call it imposter syndrome, but I think that's become

1644
01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:56,160
Speaker 3: too much of a buzz where I just felt a

1645
01:20:56,160 --> 01:20:56,759
Speaker 3: lot of shame.

1646
01:20:57,760 --> 01:20:58,240
Speaker 4: Uh.

1647
01:20:58,280 --> 01:21:01,000
Speaker 3: And so then I'm in these different places and spaces

1648
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:07,160
Speaker 3: and I'm not I'm anxious man, Like I would go

1649
01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:09,320
Speaker 3: back to my hotel room. I just cry, you know,

1650
01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:11,519
Speaker 3: go back to my hotel room and have like panic attacks,

1651
01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:12,920
Speaker 3: you know, like did I do okay?

1652
01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:14,080
Speaker 4: Did I say that's the right way?

1653
01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:15,040
Speaker 6: I say that the right way?

1654
01:21:15,479 --> 01:21:16,719
Speaker 4: Was that right? Was that wrong? Shut?

1655
01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:21,120
Speaker 3: I mean, just beating myself up, not enjoying any of it,

1656
01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:23,320
Speaker 3: you know, so I'll be on TV or I get

1657
01:21:23,320 --> 01:21:25,080
Speaker 3: it the bestseller amy, all these different things.

1658
01:21:25,240 --> 01:21:26,320
Speaker 4: Never enjoyed a day of it.

1659
01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:30,559
Speaker 3: I would feel it wasn't enough or or it wasn't

1660
01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:36,160
Speaker 3: just I mean, just a lot of self flagellation. Getting

1661
01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:39,960
Speaker 3: that hundred million dollars brought even more problems because then people,

1662
01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:44,080
Speaker 3: you know, want stuff from you. But it did let

1663
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:49,040
Speaker 3: me take a breath, and I noticed all these guys

1664
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:52,559
Speaker 3: are getting therapy. All these guys are using psychedelic therapy,

1665
01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:56,880
Speaker 3: this therapy, that therapy. They the Landmark Forum Hopin Institute,

1666
01:21:57,120 --> 01:22:02,120
Speaker 3: polyvagel Ifs, Internal family Sism. Of all these guys and

1667
01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:07,080
Speaker 3: women were spending time just on themselves, trying to make

1668
01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:09,400
Speaker 3: themselves better, trying to make themselves, trying to deal with

1669
01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:11,559
Speaker 3: their mind and daddy issues. And then a sudden they

1670
01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:13,960
Speaker 3: would get to a point where they could just take off.

1671
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:19,679
Speaker 3: And I realized, you know, I was, I was gonna

1672
01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:23,080
Speaker 3: put myself in an early grave because you have insurmountable opportunities,

1673
01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:26,000
Speaker 3: but also you have instmountable obstacles.

1674
01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:29,720
Speaker 6: You can also have instrumentable opportunities. You guys are going

1675
01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:30,160
Speaker 6: through that now.

1676
01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:32,479
Speaker 3: The door is just opening and opening and opening and opening,

1677
01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:36,639
Speaker 3: and that can stress you out, and that can also

1678
01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:39,080
Speaker 3: bring a lot of haters and a lot of criticism.

1679
01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:41,360
Speaker 3: And I was going to be an early grave man.

1680
01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:45,719
Speaker 3: And so you know, this summer, I just feel really

1681
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:48,120
Speaker 3: blessed because I was able to get some therapeutic help

1682
01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:51,479
Speaker 3: that was useful. I was able to find my way

1683
01:22:51,479 --> 01:22:54,720
Speaker 3: back to prayer, meditation, I started getting the gym you

1684
01:22:54,720 --> 01:23:03,719
Speaker 3: can't tell, and I would start there. You know, we're worthy,

1685
01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:06,559
Speaker 3: We're worthy to be in these rooms. We're worthy to

1686
01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:10,519
Speaker 3: move capital. We're worthy to imagine whole industries. We're worthy

1687
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:15,680
Speaker 3: to imagine that every black neighborhood could be Wakanda, that

1688
01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:19,000
Speaker 3: we could drive in you know, through you know cultural uh,

1689
01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:23,480
Speaker 3: you know, cultural renaissance, but also technology transfer and investment.

1690
01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:27,800
Speaker 3: We could make every black neighborhood into Wakanda with the

1691
01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:30,519
Speaker 3: best technology in the world. Every black kid could have

1692
01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:33,519
Speaker 3: an AI tutor better than Harvard MIT for free.

1693
01:23:34,439 --> 01:23:35,880
Speaker 4: We could all of these things.

1694
01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:38,840
Speaker 3: We're worthy to have those dreams, and we're worthy to

1695
01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:41,200
Speaker 3: fight for them and not just fight for them, just

1696
01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:43,360
Speaker 3: to damn manifest them and say, this is what is

1697
01:23:43,400 --> 01:23:48,440
Speaker 3: going to be in my community, and uh, that's what's available.

1698
01:23:48,479 --> 01:23:52,439
Speaker 3: I think as an entrepreneur, so much of politics is

1699
01:23:52,439 --> 01:23:54,360
Speaker 3: about the past and the present and the present.

1700
01:23:54,640 --> 01:23:54,840
Speaker 4: You know.

1701
01:23:54,920 --> 01:23:58,920
Speaker 3: Reparations is about the past, you know. Redistribution is about

1702
01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:01,679
Speaker 3: the president. Ah, we have a come inequality. We got

1703
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:04,360
Speaker 3: to tax you to give money to her so that

1704
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:07,320
Speaker 3: she can. And it's all about the past and the present.

1705
01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:15,160
Speaker 3: That's politics, either operations or redistribution. But the future has

1706
01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:18,479
Speaker 3: not been written, Princess say, the future is worth fighting for.

1707
01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:22,920
Speaker 3: The future hasn't been written. Why can't these technologies be

1708
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:26,840
Speaker 3: used for us? Why can't we own the future? Why

1709
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:29,080
Speaker 3: can't we own that? Why can't we build that? We

1710
01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:32,599
Speaker 3: have the genius, we have the creativity, we have the passion,

1711
01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:35,920
Speaker 3: we have the magic, and now they're given these magical tools,

1712
01:24:36,479 --> 01:24:39,120
Speaker 3: and this AI stuff is damn near magic. Well, shoot,

1713
01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:41,439
Speaker 3: they take magical people, use these magical tools and build

1714
01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:45,400
Speaker 3: a magical future. That's what I'm committed to. The stuff

1715
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:47,479
Speaker 3: I've learned has to do with math is not much.

1716
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:49,599
Speaker 3: You guys are better that than I am. The stuff

1717
01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:51,400
Speaker 3: that I've learned to do with management is not much.

1718
01:24:51,439 --> 01:24:53,280
Speaker 3: You guys are better than that than I am. But

1719
01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:57,360
Speaker 3: the stuff that I've learned about meaning, the stuff I've

1720
01:24:57,439 --> 01:25:03,400
Speaker 3: learned about me is priceless, man, and I'm just glad

1721
01:25:03,400 --> 01:25:04,360
Speaker 3: to be here talking all about it.

1722
01:25:04,479 --> 01:25:07,360
Speaker 8: You're worthy, real quick political question. You can answer this

1723
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:08,160
Speaker 8: in one minute.

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Speaker 7: Electoral college it seems very stupid to me at this

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01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:14,360
Speaker 7: point in time, and I don't fully understand why it's

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Speaker 7: still even in existence. It helps the Republicans obviously a

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01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:20,960
Speaker 7: lot more than Democrats. Why we still have the loctor

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Speaker 7: electoral college? And can there ever be a time where

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01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:26,720
Speaker 7: we can just get rid of that and just have

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01:25:26,760 --> 01:25:30,000
Speaker 7: a one vote You vote for this thing if you

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01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:32,519
Speaker 7: want him to become president. It goes not If I

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01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:34,720
Speaker 7: live in New York, my vote doesn't even count if

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01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:37,560
Speaker 7: I vote Republican goes to the Democratic state or Wyoming

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01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:40,800
Speaker 7: vice versa. It seems like every other country has kind

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01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:44,679
Speaker 7: of just revolutionized that and just make it very easy.

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01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:48,120
Speaker 7: Can you just give like a thirty second explanation on

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01:25:48,240 --> 01:25:49,479
Speaker 7: why this is still in existence.

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Speaker 3: Well, because it's hard to change the constitution in any

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01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:56,960
Speaker 3: way it's going to help us. But there is this

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01:25:57,080 --> 01:26:01,439
Speaker 3: thing called national popular vote, where where if enough state

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01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:05,160
Speaker 3: legislatures pass pass the law that says they're going to

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01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:08,080
Speaker 3: give all their electoral votes, because they can say can

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01:26:08,160 --> 01:26:10,320
Speaker 3: give their electoral votes however they want you. So they

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01:26:10,360 --> 01:26:12,040
Speaker 3: all say, if enough of them say we're going to

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01:26:12,040 --> 01:26:15,080
Speaker 3: give our electoral votes to whoever wins the national popular vote,

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01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:18,160
Speaker 3: that's an in run around the constitution because then they

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01:26:18,200 --> 01:26:19,920
Speaker 3: all say, well, look, you can all vote here if

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01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:22,000
Speaker 3: you want you, but whoever wins a national vote, that's

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01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:23,880
Speaker 3: who we're going to give our electoral college votes too.

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01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:25,680
Speaker 3: So there is a way to get it done. It's

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01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:29,080
Speaker 3: called national popular vote. You can google that. But you know,

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01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:33,040
Speaker 3: there's a lot of things in our politics that don't work.

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01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:35,439
Speaker 3: But what I know is about black folks is we're

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01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:37,879
Speaker 3: the most politically sophisticated people in the country.

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01:26:38,240 --> 01:26:39,479
Speaker 4: We know way more about you.

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01:26:39,479 --> 01:26:41,719
Speaker 3: Talk to the average black person in the barbershop knows

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01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:44,280
Speaker 3: way more about politics, and the average white dude in

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01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:49,160
Speaker 3: a bar I mean massively more. But we haven't tied

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01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:53,080
Speaker 3: that political sophistication to an economic strategy that will get

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01:26:53,160 --> 01:26:55,000
Speaker 3: us those trillions of dollars that are going to come

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01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:57,639
Speaker 3: down the pipe in the next ten years. And if

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01:26:57,640 --> 01:27:00,559
Speaker 3: we can just take that, we can't fix some parts

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01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:03,519
Speaker 3: of the system, but we do have a stronghold. The

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01:27:03,560 --> 01:27:05,800
Speaker 3: reason I worry when people say don't vote, say, hold

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01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:10,040
Speaker 3: on a second, let's use what we've got to get

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01:27:10,040 --> 01:27:14,200
Speaker 3: what we want. We've got politics, we've got entertainment. Don't

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01:27:14,200 --> 01:27:16,479
Speaker 3: give up. Don't throw that in a garbage can and

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01:27:16,479 --> 01:27:19,720
Speaker 3: then you have nothing. Use the politics, use entertainment to

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01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:22,719
Speaker 3: get finance and technology. If you can use what you've

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01:27:22,720 --> 01:27:25,400
Speaker 3: got and then get what you want, you win the game.

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01:27:26,080 --> 01:27:30,679
Speaker 3: And honestly, the fact that we survived fur hundred years

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01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:33,800
Speaker 3: is bullshit and we're still here in a position who

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01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:35,640
Speaker 3: we can make those kind of moves now is a

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01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:37,680
Speaker 3: testament to our parents and our grandparents and our great

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01:27:37,680 --> 01:27:42,679
Speaker 3: grandparents and their genius. Their result they passed us these batons.

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01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:44,599
Speaker 3: Don't throw them in the garbage. Can just use them better.

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Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying.

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01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:47,280
Speaker 4: I got I got a yes or no say yes,

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01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:47,760
Speaker 4: no question?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, maximum age limit on elected officials.

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01:27:53,880 --> 01:27:56,280
Speaker 6: There should be some competency.

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01:27:56,640 --> 01:27:58,679
Speaker 8: The freeze is crazy.

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01:27:58,680 --> 01:27:59,759
Speaker 4: The freeze is crazy.

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Speaker 7: Well, pleasure, thank you anything you want to let the

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Speaker 7: audience know before we go.

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Speaker 3: You know, you guys, you know eighty five South just

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01:28:12,000 --> 01:28:14,320
Speaker 3: inspires the heck out of me. You guys just inspired

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01:28:14,360 --> 01:28:16,040
Speaker 3: the heck of me because you came your own way.

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01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:19,599
Speaker 3: You came your own way. I came the establishment way

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01:28:19,640 --> 01:28:22,639
Speaker 3: at a degree. You know, I went to a fancy

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01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:25,719
Speaker 3: law school. I worked for the White House. Well on CNN.

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01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:29,360
Speaker 3: If I was talking to anybody who's a young person today,

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01:28:29,400 --> 01:28:32,400
Speaker 3: I would say, do it your way, don't do it

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01:28:32,439 --> 01:28:35,639
Speaker 3: my way, because I'm climbing up institutions that are crumbling.

1795
01:28:36,280 --> 01:28:41,000
Speaker 3: Cable news is crumbling. You know, the political system is rickety.

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01:28:42,560 --> 01:28:45,000
Speaker 3: Like you said, going to spend a gazillion dollars going

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01:28:45,040 --> 01:28:47,439
Speaker 3: to private school education whatever that may or may not

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01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:50,960
Speaker 3: ever pay off. But if you have a dream, if

1799
01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:53,559
Speaker 3: you believe in something, you can start where you guys,

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01:28:53,560 --> 01:28:56,600
Speaker 3: started six years ago, you would come and to see me.

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01:28:57,920 --> 01:28:59,080
Speaker 4: Six years later, I'm coming.

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01:28:58,960 --> 01:29:00,000
Speaker 8: To see you.

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01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:03,240
Speaker 9: So if you if you want, if you want to

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01:29:03,320 --> 01:29:07,120
Speaker 9: understand where the world is going, that right there will

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01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:08,959
Speaker 9: tell you the last time I saw you.

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01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:10,000
Speaker 4: You will come to see me.

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01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:11,920
Speaker 6: And I'm sitting here in the lobby trying to come

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01:29:11,920 --> 01:29:12,280
Speaker 6: and see you.

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01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:14,960
Speaker 4: That's all I got to say. You have it for

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Speaker 4: my mom made it.

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Speaker 8: Mama made it. Thank you guys, Rocking West'll see you

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Speaker 8: next week.

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Speaker 6: Peace.

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