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Speaker 1: So I'm talking fast, even though I don't know why.

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Speaker 1: This is me getting mentally ready because I got a

435
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Speaker 1: question coming up that when I read it earlier today,

436
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Speaker 1: I told Jesse I don't want it in the show.

437
00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:57,359
Speaker 1: Then we decided to put it in the show. This

438
00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,280
Speaker 1: was like last week. We just put it off and

439
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:06,240
Speaker 1: it's going to be a Tonight's show. So I you

440
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,399
Speaker 1: know what, Colin just throw the question of the Ohio

441
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,439
Speaker 1: State and Michigan question. I'm gonna read this to you.

442
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,480
Speaker 1: If you're watching, you can already read it. If you're listening,

443
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 1: I just want you to react to this as I

444
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 1: read it, because some of you view the sport exactly

445
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,679
Speaker 1: like I do. Others of you view it differently, but

446
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 1: you still listen or watch and I appreciate it.

447
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:25,800
Speaker 2: So I'm interested to see how this hit you, guys.

448
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,880
Speaker 1: Nate from up in Michigan, he hit me and he said, Hey,

449
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,680
Speaker 1: unpopular take, but maybe it's good.

450
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Speaker 2: The college football Playoff is.

451
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Speaker 1: Removing some intensity from the Michigan Ohio State rivalry. It's

452
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 1: reached levels of toxicity lately that don't feel good for

453
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Speaker 1: the sport. I hate this. I don't hate you, Nate.

454
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Speaker 1: I think you're a smart guy. We've heard from Nate before.

455
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 1: It always goes back to MEMA's age, old and proper adage,

456
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Speaker 1: and that is that smart people do say casual things.

457
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Speaker 2: Sometimes.

458
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Speaker 1: Casual people rarely smart things. Nate is a smart person.

459
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 1: He has just said a very casual thing. I hate this,

460
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 1: hate everything about it from top to bottom. There was

461
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Speaker 1: nothing that I could pull out of that that was

462
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Speaker 1: redeeming in nature. It isn't too toxic. Okay. First off,

463
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,160
Speaker 1: it isn't too toxic. Once upon a time, the Romans

464
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 1: gathered in the coliseum by the tens of thousands and

465
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 1: watched people kill each other. That's toxic. That feels pretty

466
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Speaker 1: toxic to me. This is a football game. It's not toxic.

467
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Speaker 1: If a guy who graduated from Michigan walks up to

468
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Speaker 1: a guy who graduated from Ohio State in a Walmart

469
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 1: parking lot and takes a baseball back to his back

470
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Speaker 1: because he doesn't like the school he went to or

471
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Speaker 1: the school he roots for.

472
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Speaker 2: That's toxic.

473
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Speaker 1: Just hoping the guy's Thanksgiving is ruined and the early

474
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Speaker 1: part of his December is ruined because his football team

475
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,639
Speaker 1: lost to yours is not the worst thing in the world.

476
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Speaker 2: That's not toxic. That's just called passion.

477
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Speaker 1: And I also want to ask you this, Nate, speaking

478
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Speaker 1: about this toxicity your word, not mine. What part of

479
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Speaker 1: your life life has been made worse because of the

480
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 1: intense nature of this rivalry. My guess is none. I

481
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,440
Speaker 1: don't even know who you're a fan of. I hear

482
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,680
Speaker 1: this a lot. I see this a lot. There's people

483
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 1: on the internet. There's this group of people who just

484
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 1: wander the internet. They want to say something so profound,

485
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 1: but they really lack the ability to and so they

486
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 1: say stuff like this in the aggregate.

487
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Speaker 2: This man, maybe we ought to cool off a little

488
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 2: bit on this rivalry. It's gotten a little too toxic.

489
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 1: How how is it any more toxic now than it

490
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,919
Speaker 1: always has been? First off, and secondly, even if it

491
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,920
Speaker 1: is more intense than it always has been, how's that toxic?

492
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 1: Whose life is it ruining? If it is ruining your life.

493
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 1: You probably do need to step away a little bit.

494
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Speaker 1: But look, even if it really does affect you emotionally,

495
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 1: it's supposed to. It's, i'm told, the greatest rivalry in sports.

496
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Speaker 1: And I used to not believe that because I grew

497
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 1: up in the South. But the thing about it is,

498
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 1: I got myself in a position professionally where I could

499
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 1: attend this game pretty regularly. You guys were right about it.

500
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 1: I got to get it to you. You were right about it.

501
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 1: A little kid growing up in the South thought, Ohio State, Michigan. Man,

502
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 1: they forced that down our throats. It's real, it's real.

503
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 1: It's not toxic. I mean, it's it's intense. That's not toxic.

504
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,239
Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with that. It's pretty healthy. Because if

505
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 1: you don't have that avenue, if you don't have the

506
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 1: mechanism of sports through which to release some of the

507
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,640
Speaker 1: anger that you got bottled up in your life, well

508
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 1: guess what happens. It doesn't go away, It just comes

509
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 1: out elsewhere. I would encourage some of you out there,

510
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 1: probably not watching the show. I would encourage some of

511
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 1: your friends who don't have sports in their lives and they

512
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 1: just have random outbursts because they don't have other mechanisms

513
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 1: through which to release it.

514
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 2: Maybe they ought to be in sports.

515
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 1: Maybe they ought to watch a little more Michigan Ohio State.

516
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 1: Maybe they ought to feel what it's like to have

517
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 1: four straight losses hung on their head. Which brings me

518
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Speaker 1: to the next point. Colin, I didn't ask you to

519
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 1: do this, but I'm gonna ask you anyway. Can you

520
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 1: put the question up again? Because I want to remind

521
00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 1: people this was kind of a two parter. The first

522
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 1: part was has it gotten a little too toxic around here?

523
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 2: No? Is my answer to that. No, But listen to

524
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 2: the crux of this whole thing. He said.

525
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 1: This is an unpopular take, but maybe it's a good thing.

526
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:21,439
Speaker 1: The playoff is removing some intensity from the Michigan Ohio

527
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 1: State rivalry because of the levels of toxicity that it

528
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 1: is reached lately.

529
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Speaker 2: Please don't ever let that happen.

530
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Speaker 1: Please don't ever get here. Please don't let us get

531
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 1: to a point where this is a real thing that's happening.

532
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 2: This past year.

533
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Speaker 1: I know, if you just came out of a cave,

534
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 1: if you've been hibernating, we got the greatest rivalry in

535
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 1: college football my words, but also the words of many others.

536
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 2: It's extremely intense.

537
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Speaker 1: It's more intense than any rivalry I've ever been around,

538
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 1: and I've been around them all. But the team that

539
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 1: lost that game won the National championship. So there is

540
00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 1: a thought out there that because that happened, and the

541
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:05,919
Speaker 1: impact of this game's outcome is devalued. Ohio State fans,

542
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,679
Speaker 1: in some cases have tried to make that argument.

543
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 2: They don't really believe it.

544
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,679
Speaker 1: They do believe that winning the National championship softened the blow.

545
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 1: They don't believe that the outcome of the game doesn't

546
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 1: matter anymore. No, no serious Ohio State fan believes that,

547
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 1: and certainly no serious Michigan fan believes that even if

548
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: the shoe was on the other foot. Some of them

549
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 1: be lying the same way some of my Ohio State

550
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 1: folks were lying right now. Any Ohio State fan who's

551
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 1: telling you I don't care that we lost the Michigan

552
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: game because we won the title is lying to you.

553
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 1: The appropriate way for them to say it would be

554
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: I do care that we lost to Michigan.

555
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 2: It was just made less gutting because.

556
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:50,719
Speaker 1: We won the National championship. But there is a theory

557
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: out there. Then I'm really hoping we can avoid there's

558
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 1: a theory out there that we're headed towards a world

559
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 1: where since you got this big safety net under you

560
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 1: and you can afford to lose that game like Ohio

561
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: State did, but then go on to win the whole thing. Well,

562
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 1: maybe the result of the Ohio State Michigan game it's

563
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 1: not quite as impactful, it's not quite as noteworthy, it's

564
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 1: not quite as important, there's not as much urgency on

565
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,199
Speaker 1: the game. Now, time will tell on this if we

566
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: get to a point where that's happened. This is one

567
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 1: example of the college football playoff ruining the best parts

568
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,919
Speaker 1: of college football, because the best part of college football

569
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: is not the playoff. To me, this is again where

570
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: I'm going to be selfish and tell you how I

571
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 1: feel the best part of college football is Saturdays in

572
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 1: the fall, and even more specifically, the best part of

573
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: college football is rivalry Saturdays in the fall. Now, my

574
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 1: philosophy is in the minority here, I will grant you that.

575
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 1: But the way I feel about this sport is I'd

576
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: be fine if there was no playoff. I do want

577
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: a playoff, I'd be fine without it, But of course

578
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 1: we're going to have a playoff, but the importance of

579
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: the playoff is always downstream of Saturdays in the fall.

580
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 2: To me, that's how I feel about the sport.

581
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: So if we get to a place where people are

582
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 1: looking at rivalry games and saying, yeah, I mean, okay,

583
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: let's get through this so we can get to the playoff. Yeah,

584
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: this team lost, but it's okay because they could just

585
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 1: go and win it all in the playoff. No, No,

586
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: I don't think that's where this rivalry will ever get.

587
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: I do think the Ohio State Michigan rivalry is sort

588
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: of immune to this because I think the real ones

589
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: on both sides of this rivalry understand how important the

590
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: rivalry is. I know you got some Ohio State fans

591
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: right now. I've got a couple in my own social

592
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: circle who wanted to be kind of smart about the

593
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: whole thing and say, well, we lost the Michigan game.

594
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 1: But when that confetti was raining down, I wasn't thinking

595
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: about the Michigan loss.

596
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 2: Well, of course you weren't.

597
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: You shouldn't be what kind of psycho would be winning

598
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: a national championship and focused on the games they lost.

599
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 1: But five years from now, when you look back on

600
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: the season, there ought to be a little hole inside you.

601
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 1: You ought to feel great about the season. What this

602
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: team just did was awesome. But if you're an Ohio

603
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 1: State buck guy and you want to reach the top

604
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: rung of the ladder, there is no world. There's no

605
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: season where you accomplished the ultimate.

606
00:29:58,480 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 2: Without beating that team up north.

607
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 1: No, there's no world if you're a Michigan fan where

608
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: you can accomplish the ultimate without beating that team in Columbus, Ohio.

609
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 1: There shouldn't be that rivalry should be that important. That

610
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that belt comes with an asterisk. It doesn't

611
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: mean that trophy is tainted in any way. But it

612
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: does mean if Ryan Day has a National Championship winning

613
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 1: team three years from now that smokes Michigan by three

614
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 1: touchdowns and goes on to win a title, that team

615
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 1: will be looked at more fondly than this team. They

616
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: should because they accomplished everything that is that is ascribed

617
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 1: to excellence at Ohio State. So I do think the

618
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: playoffs changed the dynamic for the outside world, for inside world,

619
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 1: for people inside the world, for people inside the bubble.

620
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 1: I highly doubt we ever get to a world where

621
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: there's sort of this ambivalence towards the outcome of this game.

622
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, we want to win.

623
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: It, but hmmm, that's suffering that Ryan Day and Ohio

624
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: State went through after they lost that game. It should

625
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: always feel that way. I hope it always feels that way.

626
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: Is it toxic? I can feel that way in your

627
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: gut if you just lost. But that means you're participating

628
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: in something worthwhile, Like how's it gonna be as sweet

629
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: as it supposed to be when you win? If it

630
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: doesn't completely gut you if you lose. That's the way

631
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: it should always feel. That's not toxic. That's competition, that's sport.

632
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: This is Quick Trip. See because it says on the

633
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: piece of paper there hold on colin Ah Quick Trip.

634
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 1: And that is the extent of my notes. Fueled the

635
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: whole New Saturday tour this past fall did Quick Trip.

636
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 1: We're about to head out on the road a whole

637
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: lot this spring. I don't want to spoil it for you,

638
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: but you've got a pretty good idea of where we'll

639
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: fill up. Several of you have been sending me pictures

640
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: from the cold brew on tap that is found not

641
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: at every Quick Trip coast to coast yet, but a

642
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: vast majority of them. And they're opening new locations every day.

643
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: We'ren't on the street as a new one's opening in

644
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: Noonan very soon. Can't confirm it, but I've heard such things.

645
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 1: So good, good for Noonan and good for quick trip.

646
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: Let's move on, got a lot still to get to.

647
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: We're are thirty minutes in. Oh, someone's got to shut

648
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 1: me up, So let's look at the question. This is

649
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: one of those things where if I'm not careful, I'll

650
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: let myself go way down.

651
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 2: The road on talking and forget. Oh.

652
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: We had a question Carl from Gats in Alabama. He said,

653
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: what do you make of the Alabama player saying they're

654
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: more dialed in for this season and they aren't playing

655
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: no more games. Is it just word salad or do

656
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: you think there's truth to it.

657
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 2: What Carl's talking about.

658
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: There is an offensive lineman they have on that team

659
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: named Rock Montgomery, and he had some things to say recently.

660
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: I'll read you the quote. Okay, this was on the

661
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: Bama Standard podcast. I believe he said he's talking about

662
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: the environment there right now, winter conditioning's going on. They're

663
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 1: about to get in spring practice, and he said, you

664
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: can't be late to workouts. No more, No more jewelry,

665
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: no more necklaces, none of that. It's not a fashion show.

666
00:32:58,160 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: It's football.

667
00:32:59,800 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 2: Now.

668
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 1: We have a similar policy on this show, like Jesse's

669
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: got to take his belly button ring off at the door.

670
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: Colin's nipple rings have no place in this building. My

671
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 1: toe ring is left on my nightstand when I come

672
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: in here. Why because we're a serious show. And if

673
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 1: you want to be a serious show, if you want

674
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 1: to be a winner, you don't wear a jewelry. This

675
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: is well known then me one great pro athlete who's

676
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: ever worn jewelry? Right, So anyway to joke people, to

677
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: joke this stuff happens every winter. Did you ever notice

678
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: anyone saying, I don't love the vibes? Quite frankly, I

679
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: think our conditioning has sucked in winter workouts. This spring's

680
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: probably going to be a grind coming out of spring.

681
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: Have you ever heard anybody say, you know, we don't

682
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: really hang out a whole lot. I lost weight, I

683
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: got weaker over the past few months. I didn't take

684
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: the gym seriously. Nobody says that. So there's a chance

685
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 1: this could be total word salad. But there's also a

686
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: chance it could be truth. My point is I'm not

687
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: there with them day to day, nor are you, nor

688
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: is anyone that's watching this in all likelihood. Actually several

689
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: people there do watch, so they know, but we can't

690
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,439
Speaker 1: know that. Everybody thinks they're on the right track right now.

691
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 2: And I got.

692
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: News for you. It's pretty easy to fool yourself into

693
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: thinking you are on the right track when you don't

694
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 1: have to strap it up and go play anyone you're

695
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: playing what are you playing? You're playing the alarm clock

696
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: and you're playing the bar in the weight room of course,

697
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: and grass that's who you're playing against.

698
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:29,720
Speaker 2: So I mean, if you're.

699
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,800
Speaker 1: If you're worth a scholarship at Alabama, you're probably gonna

700
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 1: be okay in that setting.

701
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:35,399
Speaker 2: Here's what we got to find out.

702
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: What we got to find out is fundamentally, are things

703
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: better than they were last year? But to know that,

704
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: first off, we got to remember something. You know, there

705
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 1: was a working theory on the show last summer that

706
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 1: I presented. Now everyone's that going, which is okay because

707
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 1: I think they're right, because I think we were spot on,

708
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 1: because it was feedback we were getting from inside the program,

709
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:01,919
Speaker 1: so to understand where this program may be headed this year,

710
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: to understand what Ron Montgomery may be hitting on when

711
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,879
Speaker 1: he says, boy, things feel different around here. Folks aren't

712
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: showing up late to workouts anymore. Well, that means they

713
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: were showing up the workouts late this time last year.

714
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,399
Speaker 1: That means they were getting away with it. That means

715
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 1: you weren't culturally where you needed to be. Well, how

716
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 1: could an environment exist like that? And the follow up is,

717
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 1: isn't the same.

718
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 2: Guy the head coach?

719
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 1: Now?

720
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 2: Who was the head coach who allowed that? Well?

721
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: Yes, the answer is yes. I think there's a little

722
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 1: more to it. We've been saying this for the better

723
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: part of a year. I reiterated it the other day.

724
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have Colin play this sound. It's a little

725
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: bit lengthy, but I think it perfectly encapsulates how unique

726
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: the situation Debor had in year one was and why

727
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 1: it could very.

728
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:46,839
Speaker 2: Much be different this upcoming year.

729
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: A lot of the identity of your team gets forged

730
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: in spring and in summer workouts in fall camp. But

731
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: the thing Kaylen de Boor was dealing with was one

732
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 1: of the first times that any coach that dealt with this,

733
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: and that is you come in, which means all of

734
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 1: your players are free to leave, but you can't take

735
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 1: any of them, because that wasn't the way the portal

736
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: was working. So there was just the exit door, but

737
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: there was no entry. They also went through Spring knowing, Okay,

738
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 1: a lot of these players are feeling us out. There's

739
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 1: a second portal window. They could bail. We're already thin,

740
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 1: and if they bail on us after Spring, we've got

741
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: no recourse. What I am telling you is I think

742
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: they had to handle Spring a little bit differently.

743
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 2: Now.

744
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: You may want to go all junction boys on them,

745
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 1: and you may want to, you know, forge them in

746
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: the fire of Spring so that you harden them for

747
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: the fault.

748
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 2: It wasn't realistic. It wasn't realistic. They couldn't do it.

749
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty five and beyond will be done unequivocally his

750
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 1: way and his staff's way. Those kids have had three

751
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: chances to leave on him now, so the ones that

752
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 1: have remained, those are the ones who have fully bought

753
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 1: into Kaylyn de Bor's way of doing things. So it's

754
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,320
Speaker 1: his team. It's fully his team now. But he gets

755
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: to look back on twenty twenty four. Any time there's

756
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,399
Speaker 1: a dispute in the future, anytime there's a question about

757
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: which way we should go, he gets to point back

758
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 1: and say, we tried it your way. Remember twenty twenty four,

759
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: we tried it your way. What wasn't good enough? No

760
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: one was happy with the result. That's why we're doing

761
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 1: it my way. Okay, So picture being a player there.

762
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: Now you're Rot Montgomery, for example, and you're looking around

763
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 1: and you're saying, wow, things feel a little bit different

764
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,879
Speaker 1: this time now than they felt this time last year.

765
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: What could that be attributed to. Well, I'll tell you

766
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: what it could be attributed to. They're not working with

767
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,280
Speaker 1: one hand tied behind their back now That staff had

768
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: one and one and a half maybe hands tied behind

769
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: their back this time last year because they needed to

770
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 1: keep a roster together. And you can like it or not,

771
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: but the climate of college football last year and in

772
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: some cases this year is you piss kids off, you.

773
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 2: Rub them the wrong way. In spring. You'd love to

774
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 2: think they're gonna stick it out with you.

775
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 1: They may just bail, and if they do, you know,

776
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: you could sit there with a whistle around your net,

777
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,240
Speaker 1: crossed your arms and say, well, good, we didn't want.

778
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:04,280
Speaker 2: Folks like that here anyway.

779
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, then you get seven losses dropped on you in

780
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: the fall, and no one cares how hard and fast

781
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: you're sticking to your values and principles. All of a

782
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 1: sudden you're known as the guy who took over for

783
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 1: Saban and went five and seven his first year. And

784
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 1: believe me, it can happen if you don't think so.

785
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,879
Speaker 1: Ask Mike Norvel how different twenty twenty four felt as

786
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 1: opposed to twenty twenty three. So I think Debor and

787
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: that entire Alabama organization handle things the way they felt

788
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 1: they felt like they had to this time last year,

789
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 1: and I guarantee you it feels a little bit different

790
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 1: this time this year because the folks who wanted to

791
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: hit the exit door have had time to hit the

792
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: exit door. There have been multiple portal windows now since

793
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: he took over there, so the ones that aren't on

794
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: board with his way of doing things, they're gone. They

795
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: just went through this past season. Obviously that results not

796
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 1: good enough for anyone down there because it's Alabama, and

797
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: so this year and moving forward, I can't guarantee you

798
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 1: what they'll be on the field no clue what they'll

799
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,720
Speaker 1: be on the field, the way they'll go about trying

800
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: to achieve on the field, though, the way they'll run

801
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:09,760
Speaker 1: that program, it should feel different. I guarantee it feels different.

802
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 1: So I don't think it's word salid when he's talking

803
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 1: about what it.

804
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 2: Feels like around there.

805
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: My follow up to that is everyone feels like they're

806
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 1: on the right track this time of year.

807
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 2: So all that stuff makes you feel great.

808
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: It's great for the preview magazines, it's great for the

809
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: message boards. But bottom line is if it's twenty to

810
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 1: seventeen and you got to make a drive down in

811
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 1: Tallahassee in week one and ninety four degree weather to

812
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,280
Speaker 1: win in week one.

813
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 2: I mean like it's execution. That's what it comes down to.

814
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 1: And a lot of the ability to do that in

815
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: the fall is built through times like these in the spring.

816
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 1: But you can't know it through quotes on podcasts. No one,

817
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 1: I can't, you can't, No one can. They're watching us

818
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 1: in Athens, Ohio, Fife, Alabama, and International Falls, Minnesota. I

819
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: did a book report on International Falls when I was

820
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: in third grade in Phoenix City, Alabama. I knew where

821
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: International Falls was because I watched the Weather Channel religiously

822
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 1: back then, and I would notice that it looked like

823
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: the northernmost city in Minnesota, kind of like what Clayton,

824
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: Georgia is to Georgia International Falls is to Minnesota. And

825
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 1: Memhile always said that, and I always have an eye

826
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:25,800
Speaker 1: as well. National Signing Day was yesterday. What yes, National

827
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,800
Speaker 1: Signing Day was yesterday. Don't tell anyone, keep it a secret.

828
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 1: I will talk at some length in just a little

829
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: while about how National Signing Day has changed. National Signing

830
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: Day memories are just that. Now they're memories. But this

831
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: used to be a holiday. The first Wednesday and February.

832
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 1: Some of us circled before we circled Christmas. Some of

833
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 1: us planned our escape from work or school on the

834
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: first Wednesday and February more so than we did getting

835
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: out of town early for Thanksgiving. It was that big

836
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 1: a deal. And now it's an afterthought because the way

837
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 1: the calendar is structured. So I had some takeaways not

838
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: from yesterday, but just this entire recruiting cycle. Now Texas

839
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:10,879
Speaker 1: just keeps on stacking. Texas is the new Ohio state.

840
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: So Ohio state was the new Georgia.

841
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 2: What I mean by that. If you've watched the show

842
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:15,879
Speaker 2: for a while, you know what I mean.

843
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: For a while, Kirby and Georgia were the team that

844
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 1: recruited at a high level, and they won a whole

845
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: lot of games.

846
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 2: Every year, but they couldn't win the big one. It

847
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 2: was always dumb.

848
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 1: So then they won a couple of titles, and then

849
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: everyone shifted their attention to Ryan day All Ryan Day, man,

850
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: he's a good recruiter, and they win all their other games,

851
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 1: but they can't win the big one. Okay, well they

852
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: just won the big one. So now that sounds foolish,

853
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 1: but it always was. Well, now guess where their attention's going.

854
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: It's going to Austin, Texas, and it's going to Steve Sarkisian,

855
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,479
Speaker 1: and it's going to where whether or not he's gonna

856
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: win the.

857
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 2: Big one Steve.

858
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: Look at sark Yeah he can stack all these recruiting classes.

859
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: Yeah they got all this talent. Yeah they got these

860
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 1: deep pockets in nil. But they can't win the big one.

861
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: Yeah they can, they just haven't. The best way to

862
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: go about that is don't pay attention to what people

863
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,760
Speaker 1: are saying on the outside and just keep stacking elite classes.

864
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 2: And keep stacking talent.

865
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 1: Because that's the same thing that Saban did at Bama,

866
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: that's the same thing Kirby did at Georgia. That's the

867
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: same thing Ryan Days done at Ohio State. And what

868
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: you do is you don't hope right place, right time happens,

869
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: because that's not the way it actually works. The way

870
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,320
Speaker 1: it works is you just get in the right place

871
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: and stay there by recruiting and developing and being as

872
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 1: deep as you possibly can, and the right time will

873
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 1: find you. Right time just found Ohio State. They've been

874
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 1: in the same place every year. They've been a contender

875
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: every year. Georgia was a contender every year for a

876
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: long time. The right time boom boom, back to back years.

877
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 2: It found them.

878
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 1: Right time will find Steve Sarkjian, I think that guy

879
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: will win a national championship there.

880
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 2: Hey, I'm still holding.

881
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: Out hope Lincoln will win one at USC They got

882
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 1: a little further ways to go out there, obviously, But listen,

883
00:42:56,040 --> 00:43:01,240
Speaker 1: listen Texas. Eight of the top twelve they signed defensive guys.

884
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 1: They got three top two hundred receivers.

885
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 2: They have been this is.

886
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,479
Speaker 1: Important to note, they've been a top ten recruiter seven

887
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: of the last eight years. So I know that I

888
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 1: will forever have some of you who disagree with me

889
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: on this, and you'll say you shouldn't waste your time

890
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: talking recruiting because recruiting rankings don't matter. You are wrong.

891
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: It's not a matter of opinion. You can be of

892
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: the opinion that you don't care about them, but to

893
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: be of the opinion that recruiting rankings don't matter, you're wrong.

894
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: You're either saying the recruiting rankings are flawed, which over

895
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,839
Speaker 1: the long haul is not true, or you're saying that, well,

896
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: they don't really matter because it's all just a crapshow.

897
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 2: No, it's not.

898
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 1: Out of the last nine national champs, eight of those

899
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: nine teams averaged a top ten finish over the four

900
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:50,800
Speaker 1: years prior in recruiting.

901
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 2: Michigan's the one outlier, So it means a lot. Texas

902
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:57,919
Speaker 2: is there. They're going to continue to be there.

903
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 1: Now my follow up there if we're gonna stick with

904
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: you know what we remember most recently, Texas was in

905
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: the playoff. Who did they play in their first game?

906
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:08,919
Speaker 2: Second round?

907
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 1: Texas's first game they play Clemson. I don't share the

908
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: same optimism I have about Texas when it comes to Clemson. Now,

909
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 1: I will say, none of this is definitive. I don't

910
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: know where Clemson's headed. I mean, I got concerns about

911
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: where Clemson's headed. They just finished with the twenty sixth

912
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 1: RANC class in the country. That's the lowest there since

913
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: twenty ten. So I know, I know, I know how

914
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 1: many Clemson folks we have watching the show. I would

915
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 1: be doing the same thing you're probably doing right now.

916
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 1: If I'm listening to some guy talking to microphone questioning

917
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,240
Speaker 1: our recruiting, I'd be saying, oh, well, this is Clemson,

918
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: so we'll get it figured out. Dabbo always gets it

919
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: figured out. Maybe those rankings are flawed. Recruiting rankings aren't everything.

920
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: There's a whole lot more to it than that. Yes, yes,

921
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 1: there is, okay, but there are also pretty inarguable trends

922
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 1: and variables and rules in this sport. I'm not talking

923
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 1: about you floating just outside the top ten. I'm talking

924
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: about you steadily downward trending to where I mean, you're

925
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 1: not even finishing top three in your conference anymore. There's

926
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 1: a clear separation between the level Clemsons recruiting at now

927
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 1: and a couple of the top teams just in their

928
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: own conference, and it was not that way for a while.

929
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: This is not a team that goes fishing very deep

930
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 1: in the portal either.

931
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:30,720
Speaker 2: This is three straight cycles.

932
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: Clemsons recruiting is finished outside the top ten. This one

933
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: finished outside the top twenty five. It's not a fringe issue.

934
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 1: They're not close. Let me put it plainly, Clemsons football

935
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: players that they are accumulating on that roster are not

936
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: going to be good enough to meet the standard they've

937
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 1: set there unless something drastic changes, or unless their development

938
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 1: laps the rest of the sport, or the.

939
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 2: Recruiting rankings were just totally flawed.

940
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: Unless something like that is a mess, They're not going

941
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 1: to be able to keep up this year. This year's

942
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 1: team will actually be their best shot over the next

943
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 1: several years. That's the way it looks to me right now.

944
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 1: I would be happy to be sold on the alternative.

945
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,240
Speaker 1: I'd be more than happy. It's not actually something I want.

946
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 1: It's very good for us around here. When Clemson is good,

947
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: it's hard for me to see them competing at a

948
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 1: national championship level. They're not close to Texas right now.

949
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 1: They are not close to Ohio State. They're not close

950
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 1: to They're not close to several of the top teen

951
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: top teams in the SEC or the Big ten, Which

952
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 1: brings me to my next point, Michigan surging. I would

953
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: buy a lot of Michigan right now.

954
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:42,359
Speaker 2: Now.

955
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know, I know there is

956
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: a thought out there that the n N Cuba is

957
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 1: going to drop a bomb on Michigan's head and all

958
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 1: this is going to be rendered irrelevant. Well, I don't

959
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: believe that, So I am very much operating on the

960
00:46:56,239 --> 00:47:00,399
Speaker 1: assumption that them flipping Bryce Underwood from LSU is one

961
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: of the biggest things to happen to this program in

962
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: the history of the program. Josh, that sounds kind of hyperbolic.

963
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 1: It is, but it really isn't if you consider the

964
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 1: kind of talent that kid has and you consider when

965
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: they flipped him. Remember where the energy was around that program.

966
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: The season felt kind of dead in the water, and

967
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 1: then they flip Bryce Underwood.

968
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 2: Just huge.

969
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,800
Speaker 1: It's the number one player in the country. They finished

970
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: with the number six class in the country. They go

971
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: on to beat Ohio State and Alabama to end the year. Yes,

972
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: you have the cloud of the NCAA investigation over the program,

973
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 1: But I am a believer that the fallout from that,

974
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,720
Speaker 1: the impact of that, is not going to be greatly

975
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 1: detrimental to the future of this program. That's what I believe.

976
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: Could be wrong, but I think I'm right on it.

977
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: So I'm buying a ton of Michigan. I'm buying the

978
00:47:54,640 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 1: direction of that team in that program right now. It's

979
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 1: tough to overstate. I mean, I always think about this

980
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: stuff in terms of like a future documentary at any

981
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: given point when I'm just watching, when I'm observing college football,

982
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: I'm always thinking, Okay, if what I just saw is

983
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 1: really as big as I think it is, imagine how

984
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:18,720
Speaker 1: they'll talk about that twenty years from now. I'm setting

985
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:20,839
Speaker 1: myself up here because this could be clipped if Bryce

986
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 1: Underwood is a bust, and it'll make me look bad.

987
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 2: But that's okay.

988
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to be a bust. So

989
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 1: if you think about the impact this could have on

990
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 1: that program. You know, the way the season ended Sharonmore's

991
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 1: first year, the way the season ended coincides with them

992
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 1: going all in, them flipping the number one player in

993
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,280
Speaker 1: the country. I mean, we have seen time and time again.

994
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 1: What getting a generational player if he is one, What

995
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 1: getting a generational player at the quarterback position into your

996
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: program means? Now, we got to find out if he's

997
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: a generational player. I want to be very careful there.

998
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 1: That word should almost never be used. So I haven't

999
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 1: scouted him. I've watched him, just like the rest of

1000
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 1: you have. If he is one, and Michigan just did that,

1001
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 1: think about how they could talk about that down the

1002
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: road Michigan. Of course in the Big Ten. The Big

1003
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 1: ten's making moves now. But I get the impression a

1004
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 1: lot of people look at signing day and recruiting the

1005
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 1: same way they look at the sport in general, and

1006
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,760
Speaker 1: they look at it in terms of conference versus Conference

1007
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:27,240
Speaker 1: SEC versus Big Ten, Big Ten versus SEC.

1008
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 2: It's not the way to look at this.

1009
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 1: It's the two of them and then the rest of

1010
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: the sport, because the Big Ten and the SEC are

1011
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:38,280
Speaker 1: collectively just pulling further away from the rest of the sport.

1012
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 2: The SEC.

1013
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 1: Is that a real stat The SEC had seventeen of

1014
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 1: the thirty two to five star commits this year. The

1015
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 1: Big Ten had ten of them. The proper way to

1016
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 1: view college football not proper in a sense that I

1017
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 1: love that this is the way it is, but the

1018
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 1: proper way to view it in that it is the

1019
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 1: way it is, is not those two two versus each other.

1020
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 1: Any given year, SEC will be on top, Big ten

1021
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 1: will be on top on the field and recruiting. But

1022
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 1: by and large, listen to this, the Big Ten in

1023
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 1: the SEC had twenty of the top twenty five recruiting

1024
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: classes in this cycle. They signed twenty seven of the

1025
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 1: thirty two to five stars. They signed over three quarters

1026
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 1: of the top two four to seven. They signed seventy

1027
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 1: six percent of the top two hundred and forty seven

1028
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 1: players in the country. The Big Twelve, by comparison, had

1029
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 1: no teams in the top twenty, so Big ten SEC

1030
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:37,839
Speaker 1: had twenty of twenty five. The Big twelve also known

1031
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 1: as a power for conference, it's not really There is

1032
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 1: no comparison the ACC the Big Twelve. There is no

1033
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,320
Speaker 1: other conference that compares to what either of them are doing.

1034
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 1: And I don't say this celebratorily. I actually wish we

1035
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: could go back in time, or I hope the future.

1036
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 2: Creates a world where there's a lot more.

1037
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 1: Competitive balance, because I don't think it's healthy for the sport.

1038
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 1: But it is reality in the current state of affairs

1039
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 1: to look and say, yeah, those two were playing a

1040
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:06,800
Speaker 1: totally different level of football.

1041
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 2: Have been for a while.

1042
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 1: I just don't think the GAP's ever been as wide

1043
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 1: as it is right now. So yeah, I mean it

1044
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: was an SEC fest and a Big ten fest, and

1045
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 1: then there's a little sprinkling of other teams clums and.

1046
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 2: Fell out of the top twenty five. That's what I noticed.

1047
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: But let me just talk about this for a second.

1048
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 1: When I'm college football commissioner, I will do everything I

1049
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 1: can to get National Signing Day back. Now, maybe we've

1050
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:35,959
Speaker 1: lost it, maybe it's gone. Maybe the early signing day

1051
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 1: has created a world where we'll just never have that

1052
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: tenth Pole Wednesday, whether it's in December or February, where

1053
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:47,839
Speaker 1: the earth just stops and everyone is leaned in on

1054
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 1: every major announcement. But it wasn't that long ago that

1055
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 1: National Signing Day was like a holiday. I cannot emphasize

1056
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 1: this enough. If you're a college football fan and you're

1057
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:06,359
Speaker 1: sixteen years old, enjoy your youth. That's great, but you

1058
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 1: did miss out on one portion of the golden era

1059
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 1: of college football.

1060
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 2: Now, hopefully we can get it back.

1061
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 1: But you missed out on what National Signing Day was

1062
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 1: like in major college football National signing Day. If you

1063
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: just rewind ten years, fifteen years, not that long ago,

1064
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 1: you are talking about some of the highest drama that

1065
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: American culture could ever produce.

1066
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 2: I don't even know which memories. I mean.

1067
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 1: I remember the Jadeveon Clowney recruitment. How was I like,

1068
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 1: in what world this year? Like in this recruiting cycle?

1069
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 1: Would you ever know where Jadeveon Clowney's mom works? Like what?

1070
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 1: I think she worked at a free delay factory or

1071
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 1: something like that. And then Clowney is a top recruit.

1072
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 1: He goes to South Carolina ends up being a first

1073
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 1: round draft pick. But I remember how deep I went

1074
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 1: on recruiting men, and I remember it was mainly a

1075
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 1: message board driven culture where you have to get your

1076
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 1: updates through message boards and then occasionally there would be

1077
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 1: a tweet or occasionally someone would have some scoop on

1078
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: a radio show or whatnot, but by and large it

1079
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 1: was great. This is sort of pre Reddit, so it's

1080
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 1: just message boards, just team message boards, which is still

1081
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Speaker 1: a huge pipeline for information. But do the F five key,

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Speaker 1: which is the refreshed key.

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Speaker 2: Just boom boom boom, boom boom.

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Speaker 1: You're just wearing an out immunity. Recruiting National Signing Day.

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00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 1: It was so great. So what I used to do,

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00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 1: no matter where I worked or where I was in school,

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00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 1: what I would do is Monday, the week of National

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00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:47,319
Speaker 1: Signing Day. On Monday, I would drop just a and

1089
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 1: that was it. Then Tuesday, especially after lunch, this is

1090
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 1: where it's really important. You really want to full hand

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00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:58,399
Speaker 1: to the mouth. You gotta go to the bathroom every

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00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 1: now and then and rub your nose on the tip

1093
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 1: because you got to get the rediness. You got to

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00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,720
Speaker 1: get the Rootolph effect. And you got to let people

1095
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:08,439
Speaker 1: know three three thirty three forty five you're coming down

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00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 1: with something and you gotta make one of them say, wow,

1097
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:13,919
Speaker 1: you're not looking so great.

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00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 2: And at that point.

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00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:16,720
Speaker 1: You're like, nah, I'll be okay.

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00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 2: And it's the second person.

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00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 1: It's not Terry, it's Linda who walks up and says, oh, wow,

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Speaker 1: you sound terrible.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 1: I'll try and tough it out because that has brought

1105
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:30,399
Speaker 1: you the ability to not come in on National Signing Day.

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00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 2: I perfected this. This was an art form.

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00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 1: I had never had any intention on coming to work

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00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 1: or school on National Signing Day, but I did want

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00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 1: the mechanism. I did want the exit door. I wanted

1110
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 1: the trap door. Now I was good to go on Thursday.

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00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: I was feeling well on Thursday. My immune system really

1112
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 1: kicked in Wednesday, two thirty three in the afternoon, I'd

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00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:52,840
Speaker 1: be good to go. Text him, I'll be in tomorrow.

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00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 1: Thanks for thinking about me. Feeling better. Think I'll be

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00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 1: in tomorrow. But there was no work or school on

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00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:02,240
Speaker 1: National Signing Day. And now now it's like the total

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00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 1: lop is that I'm getting text from buddies yesterday around lunchtime.

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00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 2: Did you know it's National Signing to Day? And I

1119
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 2: was like, oh it is? Oh, it sure is.

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Speaker 1: I hate it. College football is wonderful. I hate that

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00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 1: they've taken it from us. I really do Super Bowl

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00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 1: is this Sunday? Did you know that?

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Speaker 2: Yes? I think you did.

1124
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 1: Are any of you brave enough to be going? Even

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Speaker 1: though you have not purchased ticket? Chet, I do have

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Speaker 1: a deal for you. We have struck a deal with

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Speaker 1: seat Geek. We did this with a lot of fanfare

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00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 1: to end the season. We got to actually work on

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Speaker 1: something long term with these folks. So we did this

1130
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 1: for the playoff. They wanted to do something for the

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00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. So if you're buying super Bowl tickets and

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Speaker 1: you hadn't done it yet, do it at seat geek

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00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 1: because I can get you two hundred and fifty dollars off.

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Speaker 1: There's no catch, you don't need to sign up for anything.

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Speaker 1: You just buy your tickets on seat Geek. Enter promo

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Speaker 1: code paate state two fifty, payt state two five zero

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Speaker 1: at checkout, and just like that, two hundred fifty bucks

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Speaker 1: off your bill. I would love to get you some

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00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 1: free souper tickets. Who knows, maybe next year, but this

1140
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 1: year two fifty off sounds good.

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00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:06,240
Speaker 2: Moving right along.

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00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:10,439
Speaker 1: Talked about the SEC title odds the other night, which

1143
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:13,360
Speaker 1: of course means I need to mention some more title odds.

1144
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 1: I think we have some value here from the unlikeliest

1145
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 1: of places. The Big Ten championship odds are out on FanDuel.

1146
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 1: Yes it's February, but you can bet on these sorts

1147
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 1: of things. To me, the Big Ten has been what

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00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 1: the Big Ten is for a while. So the Big

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00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 1: Ten seems like a four team league. Then there's a gap,

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00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,360
Speaker 1: then the rest of the teams. So Ohio State, Michigan,

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00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 1: Penn State, Oregon, and no order. Are those four teams

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00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 1: right now. Now, of course Oregon wasn't in the league,

1153
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 1: but since Oregon has joined the league, they joined the

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00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 1: top tier of teams, and it feels like it's pretty orderly.

1155
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 1: It's just what order they're in is the only question.

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00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 1: And that sentiment is reflected in the odds if you

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00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 1: look at them right now. So this is odds to

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Speaker 1: win the league this upcoming year. Ohio State's the favorite,

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Speaker 1: then it's Oregon, then it's Penn State, then there's a

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00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 1: little drop off, and then it's Michigan. Then there's a

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00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 1: ton of drop off till you get to the Indiana's

1162
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 1: and Nebraskas and.

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00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:13,319
Speaker 2: USC's of the world. So there is a lot of

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00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 2: blind brand.

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Speaker 1: Trust that's put in Ohio State here. Ohio State's favor

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00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 1: to win the conference again, and they're replacing their offensive coordinator,

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00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, quarterback, ton of line of scrimmage talent.

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Speaker 2: Both tailbacks.

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Speaker 1: It's just Ohio State, though, so everyone just trusts in them.

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Speaker 2: I do too.

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Speaker 1: That'd be my favorite at Peyton State Sportsbook, that'd be

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Speaker 1: my favorite Oregon lost seventy five percent of their starting

1173
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 1: production roughly thereabouts, so they're replacing the time. They're number two.

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Speaker 1: Penn State's different, Penn State's number three. It's almost like

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Speaker 1: the odds makers are saying, we don't even care about

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Speaker 1: all that stuff. It's the reputation. We're almost listing these

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Speaker 1: teams in order of reputation. Because Penn State good running game,

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Speaker 1: coming back excellent. They added Jim Knowles at coordinator, quarterback

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00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 1: and offensive coordinator return for a second year together. They've

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00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 1: got that all in sort of energy about the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty five season.

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Speaker 2: They get Oregon at home early in Week four.

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Speaker 1: Remember, Oregon's got a lot of newness, and one of

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00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 1: Oregon's first really tough tests will be on the road

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00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 1: in Happy Valley. Penn State also plays four of the

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Speaker 1: bottom six teams in the Big Ten. When it comes

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Speaker 1: to odds, we don't really know how good those teams

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Speaker 1: will be. But if you look at the FanDuel odds,

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Speaker 1: Penn State plays four of the bottom six, it's really favorable.

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Speaker 1: It's really favorable. But having said that, still only the

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Speaker 1: third best odds to win the conference. Why is fan

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00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 1: duels just basically went on a reputation here. Now I

1193
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 1: have spotted a sleeper, Colin. I want you to keep

1194
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 1: the odds up for a second. This is gonna come

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Speaker 1: as a shock to some of you. I want everyone

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Speaker 1: to pay attention because I have noticed that there is

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Speaker 1: one team in the Big ten odds market that is

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Speaker 1: priced way too low.

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Speaker 2: Who is it? It's Illinois. It's Illinois.

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Speaker 1: Someone call Brett Bielama make sure he hears this, because

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Speaker 1: this is not the jpeople, This is just straight up

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Speaker 1: what I think. I think Illinois is gonna be a

1203
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 1: really good team this year. They got a ton of

1204
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Speaker 1: returning production, multi year starter at quarterback, very favorable schedule.

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00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 1: It's a team, and it's a brand, and it's an approach,

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00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 1: a philosophy that I believe in. JP Paule may not

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00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 1: believe in him, obviously, FanDuel thinks that they should be

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Speaker 1: priced way lower than the rest of the pack. I

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00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 1: think Illinois could be a contender up there. Do they

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Speaker 1: match rosters with Ohio State? They probably do not. But

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Speaker 1: I've watched Brett Bilama a time or two go toe

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Speaker 1: to toe with teams who he's a significant underdog against

1213
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 1: and who seemingly on paper outclass his team physically well,

1214
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 1: talent wise, physically it's a different story.

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Speaker 2: That's why they win the game sometimes.

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Speaker 1: So I know there's been some clown emojis thrown my

1217
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Speaker 1: way lately. I just want it's Brett to know it's Look,

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Speaker 1: I believe in you. It's the computer that doubts you.

1219
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 1: So if you've got problems, you got problems with the computer,

1220
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Speaker 1: not with me. I frankly, I don't think I deserve

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Speaker 1: any blame at all. I want the credit. I don't

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Speaker 1: think I deserve the blame. So yeah, that's what the

1223
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Speaker 1: Big Ten picture looks like. Oh, by the way, Wisconsin,

1224
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Speaker 1: we were looking at their schedule because like I think

1225
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Speaker 1: Wisconsin's got sleeper vibes about them too. But they play

1226
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Speaker 1: five of the top six teams in the Big Ten.

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Speaker 1: They play eight of the top eleven teams in the

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Speaker 1: Big Ten, and not that it matters in terms of conference,

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Speaker 1: but if you care about their schedule, they play at

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Speaker 1: Alabama as well. So I'm gonna say yet again, when

1231
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 1: I'm college football commissioner, the disparity and strength of schedule

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Speaker 1: has to be addressed team to team. In this sport.

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Speaker 1: It's insane, absolutely insane Let's move along, had a question

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Speaker 1: about what was this?

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Speaker 2: A and M? Think away a question about AN and M. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: my papers got discombobulated. It's a shame. Kyle from Omaha,

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01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 2: Nebraska hit me.

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Speaker 1: He said, do you think Texas A and M will

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Speaker 1: finally become a powerhouse? Well, that's up to them. They

1240
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 1: got the ingredients. That's a big point of contention on

1241
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 1: the show. By the way, one of the long standing

1242
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 1: arguments on the show is is A and M capable

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Speaker 1: of being a powerhouse?

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Speaker 2: I say yes.

1245
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 1: Someone else says, well, if they're capable of it, why

1246
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 1: haven't they ever been one? And I've always said because

1247
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Speaker 1: they haven't hired right and the ingredients to be a

1248
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 1: bona fide powerhouse have only been in place for about

1249
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 1: a decade. There we're talking about pre Manzel and then

1250
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 1: post Manzel, Texas A and M was a whole different animal.

1251
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:41,479
Speaker 1: But they still really haven't had the right coach there

1252
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 1: to take them to that level. Jimbo was there, Jimbo

1253
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:46,959
Speaker 1: wasn't the guy to take them to that level. Kevin

1254
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 1: Somelan wasn't the guy to take them to that level.

1255
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 1: Maybe Mike elko Is remains to be seen. But my

1256
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 1: stance has always been clear on them, and that is

1257
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 1: just because they haven't been doesn't mean they can't be.

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Speaker 1: It's a great, sleeping giant program. So you're asking me,

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Speaker 1: will they be a powerhouse? What's a powerhouse? Is it

1260
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Speaker 1: a place that has all the ingredients or is it

1261
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 1: a place that's fulfilling on that, Like they're they're winning

1262
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Speaker 1: at a certain level over a multitude of consecutive years.

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Speaker 2: If you're talking about that, it's gonna be hard.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be difficult. The ingredients are there, but I

1265
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be hard for anyone to sustain an

1266
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 1: elite run the way college football is set up right now.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about every one of them. Ohio State just

1268
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 1: won the title. I think Ohio State's just gonna throw

1269
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 1: their helmet out there next year and win eleven games.

1270
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 2: That's not the way that's gonna happen.

1271
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:37,959
Speaker 1: The way Saban did it at Alabama, it was hard

1272
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 1: for them to do it, even when the rules were

1273
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 1: bent more.

1274
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 2: To their favor.

1275
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 1: It's not easy to do that anymore. So I think

1276
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna kind of evolve the way I look at

1277
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:50,040
Speaker 1: defining a powerhouse like Texas is a powerhouse to me

1278
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 1: right now. They're granted they're one year into the SEC,

1279
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 1: but they didn't They didn't win any big game aside

1280
01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 1: from the A and M game actually, nor did they

1281
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 1: win the conference, nor did they win a national title

1282
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 1: this past year. But I would look at them as

1283
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 1: a powerhouse program because they're winning consistently. They're really stacked

1284
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 1: roster wise. I think they got a good coaching staff,

1285
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 1: high level coaching staff. That's a powerhouse to me. It's

1286
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 1: a program, it's an organization that's all in. A and

1287
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:19,960
Speaker 1: M's got that too. A and M hasn't won as

1288
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:23,160
Speaker 1: much it was year one under Mike Elcho last year too,

1289
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:28,479
Speaker 1: So I think the evaluation part of that program's really good.

1290
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 1: I think the developmental part of that program will be

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Speaker 1: really good. I think there will be few other places

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Speaker 1: You got to execute, you still got to go win.

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Speaker 1: They haven't done it. They've got to do things there

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Speaker 2: You got it to do.

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Speaker 1: It's not doubt, it's me doubting that the landscape of

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Speaker 1: a five year period of averaging ten point seventy five

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Speaker 2: Now, but we'll see you can.

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Speaker 1: We were just talking about the Big ten a second ago. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: be in New Orleans at all this weekend?

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Speaker 2: Yes? Or no? Is there a spot on my face? Jesse?

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Speaker 1: Well, that's just the way it looks that sucks. Will

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Speaker 1: show here? Look at this question we got. But Brandon,

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Speaker 1: you must have the wrong show. I would never talk

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Speaker 1: about the G five Brandon. Brandon hit me up knowing

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Speaker 1: that I am G five Josh after all. He said,

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Speaker 1: if you ran a non power conference team, what would

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Speaker 1: your game plan be to give them an actual chance

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Speaker 1: at the title?

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Speaker 2: H Brandon, Simple answer.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't have a game plan to win a national

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Speaker 1: championship at a G five program.

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Speaker 2: Because it's impossible.

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Speaker 1: So my game plan and my focus would not be

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Speaker 1: centered around capturing a unicorn. I wouldn't be looking for

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Speaker 1: the rainbow trying to find the pot of gold. I'd

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Speaker 1: be focused on winning my conference. That's what I'd be

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Speaker 1: focused on, because that's clear, it's attainable, it's realistic, and

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Speaker 1: it exists within a vacuum of the overall vacuum of

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Speaker 1: college football right now. So there is going to be

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Speaker 1: a fairy tale sold to people in the G five

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Speaker 1: ranks that, because of the expanded playoff. You've got a shot.

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Speaker 1: You don't have a shot to do anything other than

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Speaker 1: make that playoff. Now, the way I think is, I

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Speaker 1: don't view me having inclusion in a playoff as a

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Speaker 1: reason to throw a ticker tape parade. I want to

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Speaker 1: win a championship, but I'm not gonna win a national

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Speaker 1: championship because I'm not playing the same sport as Alabama is.

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Speaker 1: I'm not playing the same sport as Ohio State is.

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Speaker 1: It's always been stupid that we pretend one hundred and

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Speaker 1: thirty four teams or playing the same sport. But until

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Speaker 1: someone comes along and fixes college football, we have to

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Speaker 1: participate in this ruse that everyone should have a shot

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Speaker 1: at the national championship where you can create your formula

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Speaker 1: if you want to, and you can define it however

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Speaker 1: you want to. If I'm the head coach at Memphis,

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Speaker 1: if I'm the head coach at Marshall, I'm not wasting

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Speaker 1: two seconds focused on winning a national championship. I'm focused

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Speaker 1: on winning my That's what I'm focused on. And then secondarily,

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to create a plan at my place where

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Speaker 1: I don't get punished for doing things the right way,

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Speaker 1: Like right now, if I'm the head coach at Tulane,

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Speaker 1: orf I'm the head coach at.

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Speaker 2: Boise or Texas State.

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Speaker 1: What I'm worried about is the better I do at

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Speaker 1: my job, the more likely it is someone up the

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Speaker 1: line who is not doing a good job and who's

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Speaker 1: not recruiting and developing the right way. He's just going

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Speaker 1: to come and poach my players and my staff. So

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Speaker 1: I'd be worried about having a plan in place to

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Speaker 1: keep that, to keep my cohesion, to keep my synergy,

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Speaker 1: and to keep the collective nature of my roster together.

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Speaker 1: It is a It's a blessed time to be a

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Speaker 1: head coach at the G five level, because it's always

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Speaker 1: a blessing to be a head coach, But it's a

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Speaker 1: challenging time to be a head coach at that level

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Speaker 1: because if you're the head coach at.

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Speaker 2: Florida and you're winning, you get rewarded for winning.

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Speaker 1: But if you're the head coach at South Alabama, the

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Speaker 1: more you win, the more likely it is that half

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Speaker 1: your roster's going to Auburn and Alabama and Georgia or

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Speaker 1: wherever they can get offers up the ladder. And it's

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Speaker 1: just it's not feasible long term, because the problem is

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Speaker 1: when you get to December and you're nine and three

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Speaker 1: team from a year ago goes six and six because

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Speaker 1: you lost thirty eight percent of your offensive production after spring.

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Speaker 2: No one cares about your excuses.

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Speaker 1: You got folks wandering the street's feral style in college football,

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Speaker 1: thinking you are what your record says you are, and

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Speaker 1: you just get classified.

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Speaker 2: As a six and six coach. So what would I

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Speaker 2: be doing well.

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Speaker 1: I'd be trying to find a way to do things

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Speaker 1: in a unique way that helps me sustain. I'm not

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Speaker 1: worried about a national championship because it's not realistic at

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Speaker 1: the G five level.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's get out of here.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you guys so much for watching live or for

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Speaker 1: listening to or watching the replay if and when you do.

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Speaker 1: This week, we will not have a Sunday show the NFL.

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Speaker 1: We went to the eleventh hour with them, but at

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Speaker 1: Bowl to earlier in the day. We wanted them to

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Speaker 1: have big noon kickoff super Bowl style since it is

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Speaker 1: on Fox. They declined that offer, so we will not

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Speaker 1: have a show on Super Bowl Sunday.

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Speaker 2: We'll have one on Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: Then I got to be out of town Thursday for

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Speaker 1: another Peate State Speaker Series trip. So after this upcoming

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Speaker 1: week we'll be back on the normal Sunday Thursday, Sunday Thursday.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I think that's all I.

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Speaker 1: Need to tell you. Okay, So we got a ready break.

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Speaker 1: We gotta get out of here, we gotta travel day tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you're following on the socials. Josh Pate CFB.

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Speaker 1: A lot of interesting stuff coming up this spring. Until

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Speaker 1: then for producer Jesse for direct colin, I'm Josh Pate.

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