1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: What's up everybody. Welcome to move the sticks here in Mobile, Alabama. 3 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: DJ Bucky Rett with you up here in the press box. 4 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: And guys, just finished the first day of practice, and uh, Buck, 5 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: just I guess go big picture take away here so 6 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: far from what you saw, really solid first day. I 7 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: think the first day is always a tough stay to 8 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: evaluate guys because they don't have on full pass, they 9 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: just have on the shorts, and you have so many 10 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: nerves that are kind of affecting the play. But overall 11 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 1: I thought to do is that we expected to kind 12 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: of show up flashed enough to make us be like, okay, 13 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 1: yeah they're legit. Yeah, you know, coming from the nflp 14 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: A game a week ago. First first thing I noticed 15 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: when I got here was these are just flat out 16 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: bigger dudes like these size wise, height, weight. I mean, 17 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: these are some specimens, uh for sure. And so I mean, 18 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: you know at the white out position ms and Pittman, 19 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: I mean looking at those two guys, you know, cut 20 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 1: above the rest, uh in that way. So just just 21 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 1: kind of just kind of comparing, you know, from one 22 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,320 Speaker 1: from one environment to another and this is obviously the 23 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: cream of the crop. Now, no, this is always a 24 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: great week down here are lots of great players. We're 25 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: gonna get into talking about those guys here in just 26 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: a second. Do want to give your heads up though 27 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 1: some fun interviews we're gonna roll on today's episode. We've 28 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: got Dave Caldwell, the general manager Jaxville Jaguars. They've got 29 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: a couple of first round picks. We've got our visit 30 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: with him. Uh. We've got Terrell Lewis pass rusher, edge rusher, 31 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: intriguing player from Alabama he joined us. And the final 32 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 1: conversation we're gonna have with Jordan Love, who's arguably the 33 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: most intriguing player in the entire Senior but with the 34 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: most to gain. I would say, Buck, would you agree 35 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: with me on this? The most he could help himself 36 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: a guy could help himself is Jordan's Love. Absolutely. I 37 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: think he has the most on the line in this 38 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: thing because he has to kind of wipe away, uh, 39 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: the fillings or what scouts feel about his final season, 40 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: and the best way for him to do it is 41 00:01:58,440 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: to play with a bunch of town to dues and 42 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: to show out and kind of change and rewrite the 43 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: narrative that has kind of been written about him this 44 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: season and isn't. One of the things that we want 45 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: to see from him is you know, we know he 46 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: can make the wow plays, but I want to see 47 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: more of the consistent type of place even if they're 48 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: not on that you know, very much elite level. Let's 49 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: just let's just drive it, you know, a little more 50 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: down the middle rather than too far to the left 51 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: when you talk about driving it down the middle. To me, 52 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: he has some he had some special throws, especially one 53 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: on ones. He was very comfortable one of ones, just 54 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,399 Speaker 1: airing out some deep both. But Buck, there's a hitch. 55 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: There's a hitch in this one that's ten feet in 56 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: front of receiver. I mean, this is a this is 57 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: a six yard hitch. This is junior high stuff. And 58 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: to me, when I was watching, we watched the replay 59 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: of you saw it live, then we watched the replay 60 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: of it. To me, it's almost like he's trying to 61 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: pull back a little bit on his arm because it 62 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: can be a little bit hot at times, but then 63 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: his accuracy suffered. Yeah, I think the one thing, a 64 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 1: couple of things I want to see from Jordan's Love One. 65 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: I want to see him delivered in the strike zone 66 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: consistently too. I want to see if he can manage 67 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: the game, like the great part of playing quarterback, where 68 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: the thing that separates the good from the greatest. They 69 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: understand how to manage the game, to understand situations, to 70 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 1: understand when to take the checkdown when they forced up 71 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: to feel they play kind of connect the dots ball 72 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: from the quarterback position, and I want to see if 73 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: he has that ability in it, because when you are 74 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: a gun slinger and you are prone to kind of 75 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: throw it up and let your guys get it like 76 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: that's great when it works out, but the turnovers also 77 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: kind of prevents you from winning games. I want to 78 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: see if you can play wining football in the position. Yeah, 79 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 1: I want to see him put a couple of spring, 80 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: a couple of plays together that make us go, you know, 81 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: instead of just the one every four plays. You know, 82 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,119 Speaker 1: he had a couple of plays and team today back 83 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: to back watched it might have been the place we're 84 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: talking about. Low ball on a on a hook route 85 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: ten yards and then follow that up with a duck 86 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: right in the middle of the field that probably should 87 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: have been picked off, so you know, just kind of 88 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: eliminating some of that stuff. And they were even just 89 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: catch some of the talking points, the teaching points they 90 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: were giving him. Um, he was trying to his and 91 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: his defense, trying to throw some anticipation on some things like, look, 92 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: you've got to hang hang on your back foot for 93 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: a second. Let it develop. It's an all star game, 94 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: not throwing guys open out here, like you know, on 95 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: the same page. So we'll see how he does. A 96 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: lot of times you see these guys improve as the 97 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: week goes along. I want to get some some other 98 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: big picture takeaways though, before we get to these interviews, 99 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: buck Um. Position group wise, you know, when you kind 100 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: of take it in one day in what position to 101 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: you look the best out there today? It's funny because 102 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: Red talked about the wide receivers and mean, look at 103 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: the white wide receivers in total, they're pretty impressive group 104 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,919 Speaker 1: to me. Um. Obviously the last Brits, we've got a 105 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: chance to see Michael Pittman do his thing, and to me, 106 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: he strikes me as a legitimate number one receiver. Size, speed, 107 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: the ability to catch the ball, and then just a 108 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 1: physical nature with which he plays Denzel Mims looked good 109 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 1: as a route runner, and then on the other side, 110 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: Van Jefferson to me, is just really really impressive in 111 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: terms of just he was the cleanest, just being a 112 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: terrific route runner, being able to do it. And we've 113 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: seen a year after year after year somebody catch his 114 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: eye down here and then he goes on to have 115 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: success in the league. Man Jefferson is a guy that 116 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: didn't hear a lot of buzz, but now I believe 117 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,239 Speaker 1: after people get their eyes on him amongst a big group, 118 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a great appreciation for him. 119 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,679 Speaker 1: And that's kind of where my eyes were drifting today 120 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: was I was kind of looking at the skill group guys, 121 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: the wide receivers in the DBS, so on the dB side, 122 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: you know, I came away from this game, as you 123 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 1: guys well know, big fan of Lonnie Johnson last year, 124 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 1: right out of Kentucky. And so when I walked up 125 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: and looked eye to eye with Lamar Jackson, where you're 126 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 1: going this is like? This is this is why you're 127 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: unofficially a scout, because scouts have types he likes. So 128 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: but then I left today thinking, all right, I'd like 129 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: to see him. I'd like to see him make some 130 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 1: improvement in the next couple of days. He's really good physically, 131 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: initially initiating contact and then man, he can you know, 132 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: a wide receiver gets separation pretty quick after that initially, 133 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 1: so I'd like to see him improve a little bit. 134 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: I was impressed with the corner on or Notre Dame 135 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: pride Um. I thought he was really good in coverage today, 136 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 1: especially on one on ones. Struggled a little bit and 137 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: that one on one blocking drill, getting off some of 138 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: the blocks of the receivers. So um, he was one. 139 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: I was really interested. And then I saw our guy 140 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 1: out of U. C. L a Um, Darny Holmes. He 141 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: was he twitched man. He was competing today, but he 142 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: was always in position and he was fighting feisty like crazy. 143 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: And to me when I was watching him today, guys, 144 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought that up right because to me 145 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: and I was like, Okay, this is good. He's got 146 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: nickel temperament. Like to be a nickel, not only do 147 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 1: you have to be quick and be able to mirror 148 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: inside you're a forced player a lot. You've got to 149 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: be competitive. There's some dirty work to do in there. 150 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: He looked like he might be up to the challenge. Well, 151 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: he is very competitive, very ficing. I think for him 152 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: coming down here because he spent most of the season 153 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 1: battling that the anchor injury did lower leg injury, he 154 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: needed to kind of let people know when he's healthy 155 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: what kind of player he was. And Nagi mentioned that. 156 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: Naggi mentioned that he wanted to see a little bit 157 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: of that feistiness. He didn't necessarily see it on tape 158 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 1: all year long. Last guy I'll mention is maybe it 159 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: was maybe the loudest guy on one on once today. Uh, 160 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 1: and that was a j Green at Oklahoma stay eight Um. 161 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: He was letting everybody know that even if they caught 162 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: the ball it was either one lucky or two, it 163 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: wouldn't happen again. So I look, I'll be excited to 164 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,119 Speaker 1: see if he continues his streak tomorrow. I'm just glad 165 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: that you actually talked about Darnay Holmes's the other two 166 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: guys you talked about her over six and one and 167 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: a half. So I look, I give some love to 168 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: somebody under christ. I will say the Iowa corner stood 169 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: out to me. Michael, you have to tell me how 170 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: to say his last name. Yeah, yeah, you sure we'll 171 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: go with that. Yeah, yeah. So he kind of stood 172 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: up to me just in terms of just yeah uh, 173 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: just in terms of how smooth and how fluid he 174 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: was on the corner. He's a guy that was impressive. 175 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: Are you guys watching the school guys? I was watching 176 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: the big guys and I thought, man, the defensive tackle group. 177 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: I can roll through some names. We saw a game 178 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: at where I saw him last week at the at 179 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: the game down there in Florida at the East West game. 180 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: He came in here. I thought he did a nice job. 181 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: Jason Strowbridge from North Carolina. Your school buck had a 182 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: really good day, very active. Uh. Neville Gallamore, who we 183 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: spoke with the other day. He's explosive and twitched up. 184 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: He had a big day. But to me, the best 185 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: two and show, um, we're in the SEC and I think, 186 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: what's what we expected? Javon kin Law is the best 187 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: player here in this entire game. Did not disappoint. Rare, 188 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: rare size, length, explosiveness. And then the other one and 189 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: we talked about him as well. Marlon Davidson. Marlon Davidson 190 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: rushed win one over the tackle, over the guard, and 191 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: over the center. It was like literally it was like 192 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: a little bit everybody who wants something, you want to 193 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: get something, I'll give you something too. Yeah. I mean, look, 194 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: he's a very very impressive dude. And um, I think 195 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: the thing that that stands out to me when you're here, uh, 196 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: is the first time some of these guys get a 197 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: chance to play good on good and when you see 198 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: these guys have these one on one reps and they're 199 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: able to consistently dominate. Like years and years ago we 200 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 1: talked about Aaron Donald and the show that he put on, 201 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: uh last year, Montes with the show that he was 202 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: able to put on each year. When you have the 203 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: best guys, they kind of have a tendency to kind 204 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: of rise to the top. And so you talk about 205 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: ken Law and Davidson, those guys certainly lived up to 206 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: the hype that kind of receded arrival. I'm also gonna 207 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 1: wear his shorts tomorrow tomorrow, Stockton warm the same way. 208 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 1: It did not look like that. You're right, you're a 209 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: little different. All right, Let's get some of these interviews here, 210 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: some some fascinating conversations we mentioned at the top they're 211 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: one of the more interesting players in the entire draft. 212 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: Happens to be here in Mobile. We've got a chance 213 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: to visit with Jordan's love Jordan, I would guessed the 214 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: first question probably getting from most teams as you talk 215 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 1: to him, the difference between a whole new situation with 216 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:31,559 Speaker 1: you from last year to this year, all a bunch 217 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: of new players, new coaching staff. How was the transition 218 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: for you? Yeah, I just described it as it was 219 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: a grind. It was work. Um obviously losing coaching staff, 220 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: getting new coaching staff in um, you know, losing none 221 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: of the eleven starters of offense. So, um, it's like 222 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: the whole summer, whole season. I mean it's been a grind, 223 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: you know, just trying to get get it where it 224 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: needs to be, get the offense where it needs to be. Um, 225 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: you know, at just where we can you know, perform 226 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 1: at a high level. Um. I feel like it started 227 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 1: coming together towards end of the season. Um, you know, 228 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: we're just something like I said, we're just working on 229 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: all season trying to get it to that level. So 230 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: and thinking about the adversity that you face, like trying 231 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: to get so many new guys on the same page. 232 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: It would be very very similar to being a high 233 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 1: draft pick and coming into a situation that has been downtrotten. 234 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: While we're your situation in Utah State, help you be 235 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: a better pro? I think it will help me a lot, 236 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,079 Speaker 1: you know, obviously, just the adversity I had to face, 237 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: um throughout that year and then UM, you know handled it. Um. 238 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 1: You know we went seven to six. Obviously didn't have 239 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 1: the season we wanted to have, but uh, you know, 240 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: we did some good things this year. But obviously it relates, 241 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: you know to the same situation coming into a new UM, 242 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: you know team, new coaches and new players, new faces. 243 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: You gotta learn all that, So UM, similar situations. Bucky 244 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: hit on that word adversity. Um, A lot of times 245 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 1: you go back through with the guys you got writer, 246 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: guys you got wrong. A lot of times. Kids haven't 247 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: been through any adversity at the college level, even on 248 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: the field. Off the field. The first time that hits 249 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:58,839 Speaker 1: in in the NFL level, they don't know how to 250 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: handle it. You've had tremendous verse as you mentioned on 251 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: the field, also you had tremendous adversity off the field. Um, 252 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: how are we able to get through some of those 253 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: difficult moments. Yeah. I mean I've had, like, look in 254 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: my life, I've had a lot of adversity of my life. 255 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: Obviously my dad passing away when I was fourteen. That 256 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: was you know, that was the biggest step of adversity 257 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: that I had a face and um, you know handle 258 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:20,719 Speaker 1: that and the way I look at it, I mean 259 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: I can handle that. I can handle anything else. Nothing's 260 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: gonna be as hard as that was. So um. You 261 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: know all these other things there, they're they're minor things. 262 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: Um so um. Yeah, Like I said, I can handle adversity. 263 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 1: It's something that you know, um um, I wouldn't want 264 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 1: to happen, but you know, if that situation comes about, 265 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: I can handle it. You know, I'm thinking about handling things. 266 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 1: We've seen the National Football League is undergoing an evolution 267 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 1: at the quarterback position. We've seen more guys with athleticism 268 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: and these trades where they can run it. Looking at 269 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: your background, you play basketball and you doubl in gymnastics 270 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 1: when you're a little how would those other sports help 271 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: you be a better player the next level. Yeah, I 272 00:11:57,920 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: think it all ties into you know what I mean, 273 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: Your athletic ability. You know, just the more you can do, 274 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: the better you're gonna be. You know, Um, they have 275 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: different elements, you know, being a leader in different areas 276 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 1: of sports. Um, you know, summer individual sports, summer team sports. 277 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: You know, you just gotta learn. Um. But I think 278 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: you know, the more sports you can play, the more 279 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: you know of the athlete you can be, the more 280 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: you know diverse you can be. So hold up, man, gymnastics, 281 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: I gotta know more about gymnastics. What tell me? Like 282 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: what what like? Is this like I can do like 283 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 1: a cartwheel of summer salt? Or is this like are 284 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,719 Speaker 1: we talking like back handsprings? Like what we're talking about now? 285 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: This is when I was real little. My sister, she 286 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 1: was really my little sister. She was really good at gymnastics. 287 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: So um, you know, my mom she was like, you 288 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: know what put you in gymnastics a little bit? So 289 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 1: I tried it for a year. Um, definitely not something 290 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: that we've gotta be oversell that. I think I got 291 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: Mary lou Retton over here. It's just you doing a 292 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 1: summer sault. It's a four year old in the in 293 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: the splits, and I couldn't do it, and I was like, 294 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: you know, this is this is a breaking point for me. 295 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to tried it. So it's funny because 296 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: I'm sure you will hear this as we continue to 297 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: go forward. We talked about the evolution in the Nashvial 298 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 1: Football League. Um, there have been some comparisons made between 299 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: you and Patrick Mahomes. When you've seen Patrick Mahomes, is 300 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: there any little bit of his game that might be 301 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: in your game? Yeah? I mean I just the little 302 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: guy like Patrick Mahomes. I mean crazy arm strength, you know, 303 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: crazy you know, just ability to throw the ball, you know, 304 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: different angles and stuff like that. I think I have that. Um, 305 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: you know, that's where I see similarities and you know, 306 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: just you know, make plays, you know, um you know, 307 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: like I said, throwing side arm, you know, throwing crazy 308 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: deep passes, it's you know, may plays. I mean that's 309 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: where I think you can compare us, and uh, I 310 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: feel like that, you know, I'm comparable to him in 311 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: that aspect. Well. The first tape that I watched studying 312 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 1: over the summer was watching you against Michigan State last year. 313 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: You gotta throw in that game that's as good as 314 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:49,719 Speaker 1: anybody's head and it's entire draft. That's one of the 315 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:51,839 Speaker 1: best things that I've ever seen against Michigan State. One 316 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: down the field. Um, can you recall, hey, what the 317 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: play call was, what you saw and how you execute 318 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: it on that one wish player are you talking about? 319 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: That's a deep one. I want to say you were 320 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: rolling to the left, rolling to the left and throwing 321 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,079 Speaker 1: to the left. It was so yeah. I mean, um, 322 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: the play it was six and I posts. I mean 323 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: I had my post wheel from the outside of shoeters. 324 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: I had a stick around from the number three. Uh, 325 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: so I got off that you know, um, d n 326 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: you'll beat the tackle inside. So I had to get 327 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: out of the pocket, started rolling, saw my wheel down, 328 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: I feel, you know, kind of just throw a side arm. Um. 329 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: Uh ended up not not being able to complete the catch. Um. Yeah, 330 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: So it's a ridiculous. So now this is I want 331 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: to ask you about one more because I'm watching the 332 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: LSU game this year. I want to say it's right 333 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: before it's in the second quarter. Towards the end of 334 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: the second quarter, you hit a corner route and going 335 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: over to the left. Was dropped in that game as well. Um, 336 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: do you remember what that what the call was there 337 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: and and what you saw. Unfortunately these highlights don't end 338 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: with the guy catching football Jordan, but they were amazing throats. 339 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: I can't even think you said a corner around Lee. 340 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: It was a corner route. It was really about two 341 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: or three minutes before halftime. I think this when you 342 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: were going to the right and hit it and hit 343 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: a corner round. And I know, I know during the 344 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: L s U game, I had scrambled to the right 345 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: um on one um you know, idn't even have been 346 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: a post it was, I know one it was. It 347 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: was a slant and I want to scramble my receiver Cels. 348 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: He kind of turned into like a deep kind of 349 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: kind of like quote through the top. But he actually 350 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: he caught it. He cat that was one handed. He 351 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: heard his shoulder on that flavor. But yeah, that was 352 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: That's when we're talking about. Now, that was a that 353 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: was good And I think it might even have been 354 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: a post that had been dropped in that game at 355 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: some point in the middle. Yeah, yeah, yeah, So all 356 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: the things that you guys are described, just some listening 357 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: to the conversation, it speaks to a gun slingpers been 358 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: tut and gun slingpers are ones who are fearless. They're 359 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: courage as they continue to throw and to type when 360 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: it was regardless of turnovers in their life. How do 361 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: you maintain that aggressive mentality even if you've had some 362 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: mistakes early in again yeah, so yeah, I mean being 363 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: a gun saying, you know, especially going off this year, 364 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: I know a lot of mistakes. Um, but you know 365 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: you just gotta be able to you know, stay confident 366 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: and you know that I can make the throws. Um obviously, 367 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: just situational, get smarter, um on decisions I need to make, 368 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: you know, not forced the ball when I don't need to. 369 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: But you still have just that confidence to be able 370 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: to make those throws. It's been fun to watch you, 371 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: you know, continue to grow. I know this year you're 372 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: talking about those new pieces around you. Um, look we 373 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: can't we can't judge what the other results are. We 374 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: can judge how you perform, and you're exciting player to watch. 375 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: Is there any is there any one goal this week 376 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: here at the Senior Bowl you're looking to get a complish? Um, honestly, 377 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: I just want to show you know what I can do. Um. 378 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: I think a goal for me, you know, just be 379 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: able to learn this offense and uh, you know perfected. Um, 380 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: Obviously it's gonna be some new being under center and 381 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: stuff like that. So I didn't do it Utah State, 382 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: but something that I can do, and I just want 383 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: to be able to show that can do it. You know. 384 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: I just look forward to um getting you in a 385 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: pro system. So when you think about the opportunity to 386 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: play in the Pro Star system, something that's different in 387 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: which you're at Utah State, what do you think the 388 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: challenges will be this week and learn a new offense 389 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: and how do you expect to overcome those challenges? Mm hmmm, 390 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: I'm not sure what you know. Obviously, the challenges for 391 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: me just obviously just learning the place. Um, I don't 392 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: think that's something that would be a problem with me 393 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: just being up learning a quick time. But uh um, 394 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: I think the football part, I think I'll be fine 395 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: with that. I don't think of any challenges with that. 396 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: So let's go out there and play. We're looking forward 397 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: to it. Man, thank you for your time today. We'll 398 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 1: be catching up with you and probably the combine in 399 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 1: your pro day all the way through the whole process. 400 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:10,679 Speaker 1: Thanks man, Thank you. All Right, there you go, I 401 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 1: mean buck listening to Jordan's Love, I think he's got 402 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: his head in a good place coming into this week. Um. 403 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 1: You know, we talked to him before the first practice. 404 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: I actually got a chance to visit with him after 405 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 1: this practice. He knows he needs to clean up some 406 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 1: of the timing things and and hopefully we see steady 407 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: progression through the week. Yeah, I think that's the thing. Uh. Look, 408 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: I am always with quarterbasket and give them the full 409 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 1: benefit of down until they get to the game. After 410 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: last year watching Daniel Jones kind of struggle early but 411 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: in turning on late. Uh, and when m VP of 412 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 1: the game, I think you have to give them that 413 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 1: that opportunity to developed the chemistry and report with their 414 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: wide I was get comfortable learning a new offense and 415 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 1: it kind of settle in that it can show us 416 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: their talents. Yeah, I'm excited to see the improvement. I mean, 417 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: I think that's something that we can throw into our 418 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: evaluation as well. How do they take coaching, how do 419 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: they take it and then bring it back out on 420 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 1: the field later in the week. Something to look forward 421 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 1: to there with Jordan's Love, where you get to another 422 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 1: player interview in just a minute. But let's Uh, let's 423 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 1: go to our conversation that I had with Jacksonville Jaguars 424 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: general manager David Caldwell. Going to be a very interesting 425 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: offseason for that franchise, And Dave, fascinate year for you guys. 426 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: You have a great rookie class, the season doesn't necessarily 427 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 1: go the way that you want, and then you mix 428 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: in a big time trade that you make during the fall. 429 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: What was the what was the season like for you? Well, 430 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: there's a lot of adversity. I'd say that. You know, 431 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,360 Speaker 1: when we start the season with your quarterback you spent 432 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: all off season with and uh, he goes down after 433 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 1: eleven plays into the season, and Uh, I think the 434 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 1: majority of people felt like hope was lost at that 435 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: point in time. And then all of a sudden, we 436 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 1: have this player gardnerment show that was at the Senior 437 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: Bowl last year, and UH comes in and uh had 438 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: plays treminus football for a rookie quarterback, and this is 439 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,199 Speaker 1: a kid to head over twenty touchdown passes, very low 440 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: interception rate, and really won more games on a new 441 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:56,919 Speaker 1: rookie quarterback in this class. So we were excited about that. 442 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 1: It wasn't the only rookie contributor obviously your first round pick. 443 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 1: I want to go back to the draft because I 444 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 1: remember watching it unfold and thinking, I cannot believe Josh 445 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: Allen is falling in your lap. Point in time, was 446 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 1: there a filing when when did you guys realize that 447 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: this is the legitimate possibility that he was going to 448 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: be there when you picked. Well there we felt like 449 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: there was two trigger points in the in the draft, 450 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: and that was the Raiders and it was the Giants, 451 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: and uh, we felt like if the Giants were gonna 452 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: go quarterback that we would get a good positional player 453 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: to come to us, whether it's Josh Allen or somebody else. 454 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: And then obviously the Raiders were an unknown, so if 455 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: they bypassed on Josh, we felt like Tampa was gonna 456 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: go linebacker, and then coming to nine that he would 457 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: have been there for us. So, um, that was kind 458 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 1: of a Sartain scenario that we didn't think was likely 459 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 1: to happen. And there was always a chance of teams 460 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: kind of jumping up in front of you for obviously 461 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 1: for a pass rusher that you felt like could be 462 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 1: a guy that can contribute for a long period of time. 463 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: You know sometimes when you get those guys out their 464 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 1: first rookie mini camp, sometimes and you know right away. 465 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: Other times it takes a while. You get into training camp. 466 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 1: At what point in time did you realize, okay, this 467 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: guy's has advertised. Well, Josh was interesting because he got 468 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 1: hurt in our recommended camp, so we're like, oh, here 469 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 1: we go again. But it was it was a minor 470 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:05,360 Speaker 1: deal and you just needed some resting. Like a lot 471 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 1: of these rookies, they they go on the whole banquet 472 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 1: tour for you know, this the spring, and they come 473 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: into recommending camp or not in top shape and no 474 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: fault of their own. Um. But we had to arrest 475 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 1: him through really a lot of O T A s 476 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: and and in the training camp and bring him along slowly. 477 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: And he came along a little bit slower than probably 478 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 1: you would have liked that at your first round pick. 479 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: But then when he hit the ground running and come 480 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: week one, I actually had a sack I think on 481 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: week one that got called back. It was a sack 482 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: fumball on Patrick Mahomes and then um and then he 483 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 1: just kind of took off and then under the two 484 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: ledge of Klais Campbell and uh, yanniknakway h those three 485 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 1: guys really got after the pastor well this year we 486 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: talked to a little bit about team building philosophy because 487 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: we saw this nugget the other day. I thought was fascinating. 488 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: They tracked, you know, with the GPS, with the next 489 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: gen stats, you know, speed with the ball in your hands. 490 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: And the two fastest teams in the NFL, the two 491 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: teams playing in the Super Bowl. You've got a team 492 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: with a lot of athleticism, a lot of speed. But 493 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 1: is that continue that focus, continue to narrow win as 494 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,360 Speaker 1: you're saying, these teams that run are the good teams? Well, absolutely, 495 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: you have to have speed on both sides of the ball. 496 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: And when you see where the direction of games going 497 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: and you see great talent and quarterbacks like Patrick Mahomes 498 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: that can that can get out of the pocket and 499 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: uh Lamar Jackson and our division Deshaun Watson and Ryan 500 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 1: tanney Hill and all those guys can move and hurt 501 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: you on on their feet. So you have that better 502 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: have somebody to chase them down. And then I often 503 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: decided the ball the same as you have to playmakers 504 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,199 Speaker 1: and guys that can put the ball in the end zone. No, No, 505 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: I want to get to the to the trade real quick, 506 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 1: Jalen Rams. Obviously, organizational decision. You guys decide to move 507 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,479 Speaker 1: on from a great player that you selected with it 508 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: comes a nice return though, so I know it's it's 509 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: hard to not play with him during the season. But 510 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: at this point in time, you look at this draft class, 511 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: You've got a lot of capital. Um, what are you 512 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 1: looking to get accomplished in this offseason? Obviously we need 513 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: to make the most of it. We lost a great 514 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: player and a guy that that that played great football 515 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 1: for us, is a three time Pro Bowler, and obviously 516 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: you never want to see those guys off your building. 517 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 1: But it is what it is, and he did and 518 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 1: and we weren't going to do it unless we felt 519 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: like we can get capital where we can become a 520 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: better team in the future with it. Um. So it 521 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 1: was a tough decision. It was something that everybody was 522 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: involved in and at the end of the day, Um, 523 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 1: we feel good at going into this draft and next 524 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 1: draft with a lot of extra capital. Well, there's a 525 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:15,959 Speaker 1: good bunch of good players here. When you look at 526 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: guys like Deebo Samuel playing in this this game last 527 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: year coming out having a big time impact. Your guy 528 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew mentioned him the impact he's had. Um, how 529 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: how has it become easier for these younger players where 530 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: it used to be a you know, two three year 531 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 1: process to get them up and running, where you're seeing 532 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:33,199 Speaker 1: immediate impact right away. That's a fair question. And I 533 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: don't know if it's, uh, if it's the game in 534 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 1: college is kind of transformed into the NFL, or if 535 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: it's just opportunity. And I think these guys just giving 536 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: the opportunity and they make the most of it. And uh, 537 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 1: you know sometimes back when we first started scouting that 538 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: your first round pick would barely even play. You know 539 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 1: that's right, so um so, and and then second round 540 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:55,959 Speaker 1: pick maybe he might play a little bit. As now 541 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: you're trying to look at your first, first, second, third 542 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: round picks coming in and being pack players for you. 543 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: So I think it's probably that a lot of teams 544 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: have needs and these guys are getting opportunities. We've asked 545 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 1: a bunch of college coaches. We've got fascinating answers on 546 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: this was, um the best high school football player that 547 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: you have ever seen. So these guys and the names 548 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: have been unbelievable. We've heard Alan Iverson was was one 549 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 1: of them. Frank Gore for anybody that recruited down in 550 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 1: that area of the country. Everybody says Frank Gore for 551 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 1: what he was. Um, how about you, though, we can 552 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 1: do it either high school or college. But just somebody 553 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: you saw as a young player that was the best 554 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 1: at that age, that's fair. I remember seeing Jadevan Clowne's 555 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 1: highlight tape when he was a senior in high school 556 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: and we were in Atlanta at the time, and I 557 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: was like, I take him right now. Um, but um, 558 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: that was one that really stuck out to me. And 559 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: then college, I'd have to go back. Just as a player, boy, 560 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: Reggie Bush and when we're scout in USC back in 561 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: the day he was. I overgraded him by the way 562 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: to I think everybody probably overdid. But uh, but you 563 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,479 Speaker 1: can't take away what he did at USC and and 564 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 1: his talents. Yeah, he was phenolway still the most electric 565 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,640 Speaker 1: college football player that I've ever seen. All Right, last thing, 566 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: then I'll let you run here Senior Bowl week here 567 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 1: in Mobile. Um, you have a favorite spot, like what 568 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: is your what is your staff spot or or your 569 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,360 Speaker 1: go to every year down here. That's a fair question. 570 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: Probably win Cels I would say, I think I think 571 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: that's the for me. It's not because I'm allergic to shellfish, 572 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 1: but I enjoy the camaraderie and the the atmosphere there, 573 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 1: and it's a great place and it's a it's a 574 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,360 Speaker 1: historic land landmark. We know if the Cowboys still take 575 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 1: over Ruth Chris, do we know that. I'm sure they do. 576 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: I think it's everybody's got their spot down here, although 577 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 1: recently I've been going to Ruth Chris once. I try 578 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 1: to get together with a couple of gms across the 579 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: league and we'll do it tonight, and it seems like 580 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 1: there's a lot of NFL personnel there. Well, if I 581 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: don't see him here, just do me one favor, because 582 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: Marty Miller, one of your scouts and one of our 583 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,679 Speaker 1: good for lifelong friends here, got me into the Mediterranean 584 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: sandwich shop down Dolphin Street and it's been my go 585 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: to for like ten years. Well, you won't see him here, okay, 586 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 1: So he's not gonna be here. Well, when you talk 587 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: to Marty, tell them that I'll be having my hummus 588 00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: in his honor. He has to make it back from Hawaii. 589 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 1: We said, I'm we gave him. He's Marty really rough 590 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,679 Speaker 1: it there. Thanks Dave Well rhet. When you look at 591 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: the Jags and what they're able to accomplish, I know, 592 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: the record wasn't great. I know some people probably surprised 593 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 1: that David Calwell was brought back and Doug Maroon Maron 594 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: was brought back. But when you look at this recent 595 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: draft class, you look at the capital they have based 596 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,439 Speaker 1: off the Jalen Ramsey trade, this could be a quick 597 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,439 Speaker 1: turnaround there in Jacksonville, well, especially because of the talent 598 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,199 Speaker 1: that that's there. And you talked about I think in 599 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 1: your mock draft you had them going defense once again, 600 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 1: right in the back end and pairing them with Josh 601 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: Allen and I mean and then then once again you're 602 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: talking about a defense with a ton of high end talent, 603 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 1: even though uh they've jettison some of that in the 604 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: last year or two with Jalen Jalen Ramsey gone. So um, 605 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 1: I'd love to see, you know, a little more playmate, 606 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 1: a few more playmakers on the offensive side of the 607 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: ball as well. But yeah, I mean, this is a 608 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: team with with the talent to get right back into things. 609 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 1: I like to zoom, find an identity and stick with it, 610 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: whatever that identity is. On offense, I mean you went 611 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: from her team there was kind of a ground and 612 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: pound team too. Then they kind of wanted to throw 613 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 1: it around the yard a little bit with Nick Foles 614 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: and going to miss you. So, can they find an 615 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 1: identity to suit their talent and can they do it 616 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 1: quickly in a year? Can they do it in this 617 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 1: offseason and then put it on play on field because 618 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: obviously Doug Moron and David Colwell the kind of on 619 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 1: a hot seat intern this season. Yeah, well, they've got 620 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: one player they need to try and lock down you 621 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: and gok Way is up who's been a very very 622 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 1: good football players like that was a priority with Dave 623 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: no doubt, and so no doubt an outstanding pass us. However, 624 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: if you want to add some more pass rushers to 625 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: the stable there an interesting guy you might think of 626 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: is a guy in Terrell Lewis. Flashes of him early 627 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 1: in his career at Alabama. Buck has not been able 628 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: to stay healthy this year, finally made it through the 629 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 1: whole season. It wasn't what he wanted to put out there, 630 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 1: but you could see the glimpses of what he can become, 631 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 1: and it was one of the reasons we want to 632 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: sit down with him. Here's our conversation with Alabama edge 633 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,919 Speaker 1: rusher Terrell Lewis. All Right, Box excited to be joined 634 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: by one of the best athletes in this year's draft class, 635 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: regardless of physician Louis h throughout. First of all, I 636 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: just love to know that the adverse thing that you've 637 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: been able to go through during your college career, and 638 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 1: some people might look at that as a as a negative, 639 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 1: but how has that helped you in the long run. 640 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 1: I think it played a tremendous effect on me as 641 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: a learning curve, Like as far as just learning a 642 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: lot from it, going through it and kind of it 643 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,199 Speaker 1: teach you a lot more off the fielding on in 644 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: my opinion, just as far as going through it, learning 645 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: the process of things, and just making sure if you 646 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: set a goal you want to achieve it, you're gonna 647 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:33,120 Speaker 1: have to basically persevered through all that adversity you go through. 648 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 1: And so going to your final season you're finally able 649 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: to get back on the field. What were some of 650 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,439 Speaker 1: the things that you wanted to display The scouts and 651 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 1: did you feel like you're accomplished all that you wanted 652 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: you on the field. Yeah, I definitely wanted to displayed it. 653 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: I was durable, you know what I'm saying, obviously lasting 654 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: throughout the whole season. Then also just being able to 655 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:55,439 Speaker 1: compete at the high level consistently and showed it. Okay, 656 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 1: he's back to being his normal self as far as 657 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: competing wise, He's competitive obviously, and then just being able 658 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 1: to show scouts I'm versatile as far as being able 659 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 1: to play it at the edge, play my hand in 660 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 1: the third place, standing up um as a rushing in um, 661 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,880 Speaker 1: rushing at the three technique at times, making plays from 662 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: near playing stacked backer playing and basically a micro linebacker 663 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: and dimond dropping and curverage, making plays entagling space. So 664 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:30,679 Speaker 1: basically show off my versatility, showing my durability, and just 665 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 1: show my ability to basically compete and always want to win. 666 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,640 Speaker 1: So I want to hear your favorite basketball players because 667 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: I'm looking at you and how long and ranging athletic 668 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: you are. And I'm sure there's some people. One man, 669 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 1: how did you know, even even up on the hardwood 670 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: is athletic as you are? So who is your favorite 671 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: basketball player before we get the football player Kobe Kobe 672 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: why his mentality just mentality? Yeah, I mean that's kind 673 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: of he played a partner while I wear twenty four 674 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: as long with it being like my little assistant birthday, 675 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: all the twenty four, but always on the Kobe, like 676 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: the way he go about his business, the way he 677 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: I'm saying a tax thing, and then he thinks about 678 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: the game deeper than just old, I'm better than you. This, 679 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: It's like a lot of fine details that makes it 680 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: like every you could tell with Kobe, every decision is 681 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 1: calculated when he plays, and that's kind of how I 682 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: try to approach the game. So now a few years ago, 683 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: didn't Nix even have Kobe talk to How impactful was that? 684 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: If you asked anyway, that was probably the only person 685 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: that I met in person that I really made me 686 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: feel like a fan. So when I met him, even 687 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: when he was like kind of talking to us, I 688 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: was asking a bunch of questions because at the time 689 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 1: I was going through my injury and I was trying 690 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: to kind of pick his brain about how he deals 691 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: with his body, how he feels about injury, stuff like that. 692 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: And then afterwards getting to meet with him, talk to 693 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: him a little bit while we took a picture and 694 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: stuff like that. That was awesome too. And then kind 695 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: of tell him like, you know, trying to read your book, 696 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: stuff like that, all all those stuff it was cool. 697 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: Just kind of made me feel like a little kid. 698 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: That's phenomenal, man. I I enjoy watching this year and 699 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: we saw you talked about being durable, being out there 700 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: and being available for your team. When I talk to 701 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 1: folks back in Alabama, they said, look, yeah, he got 702 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: back on the field, but he's there's still a lot 703 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 1: more like if you can take this thing to a 704 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: whole another level. What does that mean? Um? To me, 705 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: that means lot of. I truly feel like it. I'm 706 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: nowhere narrow the ceiling that I'm saying that I have 707 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: potential wise as far as working and working my way back, 708 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 1: I feel like this is my first year back being 709 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: on the field for a full year and it's been 710 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,959 Speaker 1: a minute since I played that long basically, so I 711 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: think knowing that I know my potential so much higher 712 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: and then going through what I went through, I learned 713 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: so much as far as how to attack the process, 714 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 1: how to play a limic seas and stuff like that. 715 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: Learned my body stuff like that. So I think I 716 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: learned so much to where it's nothing but room to 717 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: grow basically for me, especially going through all that type 718 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: of stuff. So one of the things we here friendly 719 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: come out of Alabama's trust the process. When it comes 720 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 1: to the way you guys go about your practice week 721 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: so tall and what you learned at Alabama, how do 722 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 1: you apply to those principles to this week down the 723 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 1: seening ball m Just knowing that basically every day is 724 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: a daily grind um, especially Alabama early on. I feel 725 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: like this kind of this environment kind of makes you 726 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: feel just like a freshman at Alabama gain being around 727 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: a bunch of talented players, being around a bunch of 728 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 1: guys that they're the best at their school, best in 729 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: the area, best in their conference, stuff like that. It 730 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 1: makes you feel like you're back at Alabama. When you 731 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: first walk into campus and you meet everybody, you're like, Okay, 732 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: this is the top guy from so and so, and 733 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 1: he was the all all American stuff like that, five star. 734 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: So just being in that environment, you're kind of prepared 735 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: to go go compete against the best athletes and you're 736 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: not really in a sense nervous about it. You kind 737 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 1: of embrace the challenge and kind of just ready to compete. 738 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: All right. We talked a little bit before we went on, 739 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: and trust me, the Dolphins line, I canna see this 740 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 1: because we're not hold it until then. But he said, 741 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: you're gonna hit him a little speed the power in 742 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 1: the first one on one rep. So I want to 743 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: just do us a solid because we'll be you know, 744 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 1: Bucky'll be down there on the sideline. I'm gonna be 745 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 1: up there in the booth looking down on it. But 746 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 1: after you win that first rep with speed the power, 747 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 1: just a little pat of the chest, and we know 748 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: you're talking about a little dedication because they're not gonna 749 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 1: they're not gonna be ready for it. All right. We 750 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 1: cannot wait to watch a compete. Man, your fund player 751 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: appreciate it. A nice shot. Well, Red, I know the 752 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 1: first day was not uh, it wasn't a great showing 753 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 1: for Terrell Lewis. I think you'd probably like to be 754 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 1: a little bit better. And we'll see how he goes 755 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: through the week. But man, he might be the first 756 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 1: one off the bus. That is a pretty looking dude. Man. 757 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 1: We we had we talked about those those first guy 758 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: off the bus types. We had one over the NFL 759 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: p A game and D two prospect. I mean this 760 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: coming in here and seeing Terrell Lewis, it's like, my goodness, um, 761 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 1: and he kind of reminds you of the ton of Passigno, 762 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 1: you know, Va Villanova a little while ago, those those 763 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 1: those type of guys that just looked apart. Now you know, 764 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 1: can you do more than past the eye test and 765 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 1: make some plays? You need to see him make some plays. 766 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 1: But yeah, that's the big thing, Like you need to 767 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 1: see him make plays. You need to see him kind 768 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: of show up. To me. I thought he was a 769 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: guy that they didn't allow him to full the rush 770 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 1: to pass. I saw him dropping coverage in debt. It 771 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: certainly wasn't very very natural for him. I think the 772 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 1: big thing is going to be for a scout in 773 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: a coach to be able to kind of have a 774 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 1: clear plan for what they want to do with how 775 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 1: do you want to use it, How does he how 776 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 1: do you max out his talents? How can he fit? 777 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 1: I think for a lot of people, fit in scheme 778 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: is important, but for him is really really important. Well, boys, 779 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: I think we made it through day one here. It's 780 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 1: great to catch up with you guys. After practice. We 781 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 1: gotta let's put the pads on shell we I mean, 782 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: let's go full pat We'll have some here were past, 783 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: no past, no past for me. We can have the past. 784 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: We can shut up. We don't need we don't need 785 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: a pat up. We can shut up. But it is 786 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 1: fun and it's one of our favorite weeks. Great having 787 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 1: all of us together here. We're always in different locations, 788 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 1: so to be all together is great. We've got Bartlett here, 789 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 1: you know, running the show here along with the bill 790 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: U well listen, be on and the bills run the show. 791 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 1: Bart Let's just hang out, really, just hanging out in 792 00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: the corner. I mean, because he's the no part. There's 793 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 1: no pit State players here this year. So Neubile, how 794 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 1: did the Packers season end up? I'm sorry? Oh wow, 795 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: Well you can't see him right now, but he just fainted. Okay, alright, alright, yeah, 796 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: it's gonna do it for us here. Thank you guys 797 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: so much for downloading the show. If you have any 798 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 1: questions for us again, leave him Apple Podcast, leave us 799 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 1: a review, drop a question there will be sure to 800 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 1: answer it in an upcoming episode We'll see you next time. 801 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 1: Right here on, move the sticks.