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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 2: Welcome in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show, our number three.

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Speaker 3: We are rolling through the Tuesday edition of the program.

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Speaker 2: We talked about the fact that Donald Trump has now

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Speaker 2: moved to the top of the overall odds markets to

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Speaker 2: be elected president of the United States in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: There are a lot of different storylines to follow and

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Speaker 2: be associated with there, but a big part of this

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Speaker 2: is what's going to happen with the third party process.

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Speaker 2: And we say this, by the way, on the eve

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Speaker 2: of the second Republican primary debate, which will be taken

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Speaker 2: place in California at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library, and

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Speaker 2: that we know Donald Trump will not be involved in.

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Speaker 2: But big story out there is that there may be

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Speaker 2: a third party, and in particular, Robert F. Kennedy Junior

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Speaker 2: may be entering as a libertarian. Buck is of the

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Speaker 2: opinion and I think I would maybe sign on with

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Speaker 2: this that an RFK Junior libertarian candidacy could be a

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Speaker 2: challenge to Trump as much or more than it would

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Speaker 2: be to Biden. That will be a huge topic of debate.

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Speaker 2: But I've got to pull up right now, and among

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Speaker 2: my group of Twitter followers out there, about thirty percent

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Speaker 2: of you said that you would vote again. This is

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Speaker 2: on Twitter. You can go vote at Clay Travis. About

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Speaker 2: thirty percent of you said that you would vote for

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Speaker 2: Robert F. Kennedy Junior over Donald Trump. Sixty some odd

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Speaker 2: percent say for Trump, five percent say for Biden. Again,

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Speaker 2: that's people who follow me on Twitter. Anybody can go

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Speaker 2: vote in that poll, and that would suggest that that's

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Speaker 2: not a ridiculous proposition. That Buck may well be right

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Speaker 2: about this overall impact. But I think the biggest storyline

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Speaker 2: is Joe Biden's incompetence. And when I woke up this morning,

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Speaker 2: I saw this thing. This is the headline of Axios,

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Speaker 2: which does a good job with.

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Speaker 3: A morning newsletter.

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Speaker 2: One big thing scoop and Buck, this is not the

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Speaker 2: kind of scoop that you want associated with Joe Biden.

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Speaker 2: So this is not something where sometimes you're like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: they leaked this, they want this story out there, Scoop

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Speaker 2: Biden's don't trip plan, And I thought, well, certainly this

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Speaker 2: is a metaphor, it can't actually be what it says.

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Speaker 3: No, no, No.

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Speaker 2: The opening paragraph President Biden and his staff are working

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Speaker 2: on an urgent project to protect his reelection bid a

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Speaker 2: don't trip strategy. Democrats, this is this is crazy. Democrats,

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Speaker 2: including some in the administration, are terrified Biden will have

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Speaker 2: a bad fall, with a nightmare scenario of it happening

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Speaker 2: in the weeks before the twenty twenty four election.

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Speaker 3: So what are they doing?

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Speaker 2: Remember Biden tripped and fell on the stage at the

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Speaker 2: Air Force Academy. Biden is working every day with a

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Speaker 2: physical therapist to try to improve his balance.

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Speaker 3: Since his stumble in June.

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Speaker 2: Buck They put him in tennis shoes, with the idea

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Speaker 2: being it's better for him to be walking in tennis shoes,

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Speaker 2: I guess, than dress shoes, which tend to be slicker.

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Speaker 3: I'm guessing that's the theory.

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Speaker 2: And they have change and this is a big story

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Speaker 2: that I don't think has been talked about enough. They

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Speaker 2: change the stairs on Air Force One so that the

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Speaker 2: steps are shorter so he doesn't have to climb as

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Speaker 2: many stairs in order to get on the plane. Now,

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Speaker 2: the worst case scenario here, and this is sad to

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Speaker 2: even think about, is when Biden gets off Air Force One,

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Speaker 2: you know, and he stands up at the top of

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Speaker 2: the parapet there buck and waves as he starts to

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Speaker 2: walk down, he could trip and then there's a lot

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Speaker 2: as many stairs as there are on Air Force One,

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Speaker 2: which is crazy, But the fact that Democrats have a

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Speaker 2: top story coming out a little bit over thirty a

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Speaker 2: months from the election, where the story is Biden is

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Speaker 2: training to try to fall less. They're putting him in

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Speaker 2: Air Force one. I don't know how they escape this storyline,

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Speaker 2: but it ain't a good storyline that they're terrified that

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Speaker 2: he's going to fall and what it could mean for

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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty four election. Can you believe this is real?

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Speaker 2: Like would you have ever believe that this was possible?

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is crazy. I mean it's this is

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Speaker 2: a recognition of reality. There's nothing about this that's that's strange.

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Speaker 4: I mean, this is I mean I shouldn't say there's

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Speaker 4: nothing about them writing this or this being a story

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Speaker 4: that's strange, because we can all see it of course

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Speaker 4: it's strange to have a president who's stumbling around in

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Speaker 4: this way. But I think, man, if this were this

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Speaker 4: is my my baseline assumption here for everything that we're

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Speaker 4: I think the Democrats would be in a lot of

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Speaker 4: trouble with these numbers and Biden everything else. But it's

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Speaker 4: there's so much time here that they may be able

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Speaker 4: to at some level normalize Joe Biden and meaning normalize

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Speaker 4: his physical infirmities. I'm not convinced that Democrats remember what

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Speaker 4: they did with Fetterman. If you criticized his cognition issues,

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Speaker 4: you were being in You were criticizing a man for

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Speaker 4: his disability and that he's strong and and you should

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Speaker 4: encourage him to come forward and talk about you know,

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Speaker 4: the severe depression, all all of these things, and they

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Speaker 4: turn that around pretty effectively.

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Speaker 3: At the time.

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Speaker 4: I'm not convinced that Joe Biden, I mean, this is

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Speaker 4: gonna sound crazy, and this will probably be you know,

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Speaker 4: used against me at some point in the future. I'm

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Speaker 4: not convinced that if they wheeled Joe Biden out in

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Speaker 4: a wheelchair and they're just like, hey, guys, he's gotten

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Speaker 4: say he can't. They just say his mind as sharp

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Speaker 4: as attack. I mean, this is what they've been saying

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Speaker 4: behind closed doors. We all have to understand, Clay, We're

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Speaker 4: operating in a world where for four years Democrats claimed

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Speaker 4: that there was a plot with Donald Trump, Vladimir Putin

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Speaker 4: and the Kremlin that involved tapes of prostitutes urinating on

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Speaker 4: the then president of the United States. Sorry, but that's

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Speaker 4: what the allegation was, that there was a Kremlin Putin

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Speaker 4: Trump plot with zero evidence to steal the twenty sixteen election.

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Speaker 4: Every person who is on TV talking about Joe Biden,

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Speaker 4: who's a Biden partisan, went along with that. So the

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Speaker 4: notion that I mean, I just think we've entered an

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Speaker 4: era of political mass hysteria. I think that, you know,

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Speaker 4: if you want to get a sense of where we are,

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Speaker 4: forget about Axios. Read Gustave Lebon, the the you know,

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Speaker 4: the French political philosopher who just talked about how mobs

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Speaker 4: just wants slogans, They want to be around other people,

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Speaker 4: they want chance, they want to feel like there's meaning

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Speaker 4: we get into. I mean, you know, the marginal tax

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Speaker 3: Is this too crazy for you?

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think it's crazy at all, which is

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Speaker 2: why I think there's there's going to be probably tens

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Speaker 3: And I think almost all.

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Speaker 2: That's going to be wasted because I don't think they

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Speaker 2: are that many people that have not already made up

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Speaker 2: their opinion, which is why I say, and this has

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Speaker 2: been my argument for a while, and if it's Trump Biden,

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Speaker 2: it's going to stay my argument. Trump can win three ways, right.

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Speaker 2: One is a third party, although third party could cut

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Speaker 2: third party could help Trump. Another is and I think

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Speaker 2: this is going to be true. I think a lot

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Speaker 2: less people we've got a stake bed I think on this.

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Speaker 2: I think a lot less people are going to vote

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Speaker 4: Yes, we do have a stake that on this. I

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Speaker 4: wrote this, I wrote this one down. I think the

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Speaker 4: You think it will be dramatically lower.

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Speaker 2: Hey, yeah, I think that a lot of people bought

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Speaker 2: into Biden will make America normal again. Just to be clear,

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Speaker 2: we're talking aggregate turnout. Cross reports totally.

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Speaker 3: There're one hundred they counted one hundred and fifty six.

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Speaker 2: Million, and I'm votes in twenty twenty. I think fewer

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four. I'm gonna have Clay cut up

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Speaker 2: my file Mignon in little pieces, you know, and I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna have them call me like, you know, Lord Buck

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Speaker 2: or something. Go ahead, And then the third here is

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Speaker 2: exactly what they're talking about. I think that Biden could

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Speaker 2: have such a debilitating moment that it's impossible or anyone

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Speaker 2: could be he's coming down Air Force one and he

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Speaker 3: Boom boom boom boom boom, he falls.

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Speaker 2: It could be at the at the debate, to the

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Speaker 2: Mitch mcconoll.

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Speaker 3: On the president tripping and falling. Are you aware this?

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is the whole the axios, Buck, this

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Speaker 3: I mean, I couldn't you are you are?

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Speaker 4: I'm falling and I can't get up to Joe Biden

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Speaker 3: You are? You are doing that to him.

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Speaker 2: I think that Joe Biden is so incompetent, and I

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Speaker 2: hate that the Democrats have even made this a reality

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Speaker 2: no one has ever had a discussion about. They had

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Speaker 2: to change the president shoes to try to make it

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Speaker 2: less likely that he's gonna fall. I mean this, this

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Speaker 2: is the analogy that I was gonna make with you, Buck.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes you get so close to an issue, you're gonna

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Speaker 2: find this with your book and some perfect example when

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Speaker 2: you write a book. At some point you've read your

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Speaker 2: fresh eyes. And this is an analogy that I've made before.

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Speaker 2: It's a good one. You guys steal this, all right.

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Speaker 2: If you are married or you have a long term girlfriend,

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Speaker 2: you steal this. Hopefully they don't listen to the show,

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Speaker 2: but you can steal this and claim it's yours, and

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Speaker 2: I wonder, I bet this has happened to you every

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Speaker 2: now and then, Buck, you're a newlywed. Every now and then,

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Speaker 2: you are out somewhere, if you are man, this has

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Speaker 2: been my experience. I've been married almost twenty years. You

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Speaker 2: whatever else. Maybe you're in a bookstore and you're looking

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Speaker 3: I hope this happens to some of you, And.

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Speaker 2: For a moment you think, oh, who's that pretty girl,

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Speaker 2: And then you're like, oh, it's my wife, because you

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Speaker 3: And maybe women do this for husbands. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I'm that good looking. I doubt my

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Speaker 2: I know this happens for me with my wife. You

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Speaker 3: This is why the ultimate question is who's the decider?

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Speaker 3: Okay, Clay and I both you know. I sit here.

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Speaker 2: When they start taking the historians and using the historians

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Speaker 2: We need to play that, John Meacham, because you and

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay Travis Bucks Show. So, I I

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Speaker 2: And you just watched this clip, and I'm about to

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Speaker 2: say to everyone out there, if you are a Democrat

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Speaker 2: and you are doing all of this, pull yourself out

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Speaker 2: of how close you are watching this and think what

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Speaker 2: are we doing? Every Democrat is thinking the choice is

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Speaker 2: between Biden and his is walker and his sippy cup

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Speaker 2: and the end of democracy. Okay, that's what they've convinced themselves.

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Speaker 2: Here is historian John Meetchim saying that this is basically

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Speaker 2: the end. If we don't have a Biden Democrat victory,

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Speaker 2: play ten.

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Speaker 3: This whole election.

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Speaker 2: The Constitution.

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Speaker 3: Think about this.

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Speaker 5: The Constitution, if the numbers are even remotely true, is

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Speaker 5: going to come down to a couple one hundred thousand

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Speaker 5: people in five states.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: That's that's where we are. And so to some extent,

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Speaker 3: the appeal has to be if you are one.

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Speaker 5: Of these folks in Michigan, in Pennsylvania, in Arizona, if

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Speaker 5: you're there, do you want to terminate the Constitution? And

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Speaker 5: if you do, you better be sure your team's always

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Speaker 5: going to be in power.

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Speaker 4: Think just a quick wait, just a quick case here

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Speaker 4: on the terminate the constitution argument. Donald Trump at various

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Speaker 4: points when he was president, many points, and I think

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Speaker 4: it was an abuse of the law. Had federal judges

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Speaker 4: who put forward these universal one federal judge would say Nope, sorry,

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Speaker 4: President can't do that. And then you know what Trump's

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Speaker 4: response always was, It's not what the Obama response was,

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Speaker 4: It's not what the Biden response was. They would always

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Speaker 4: try to just do it and make someone stop.

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Speaker 3: Them from doing it.

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Speaker 4: The Trump response was, all right, well, we'll see you

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Speaker 4: in court and we'll see if we can make it

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Speaker 4: up through the appeals process and take it to the

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Speaker 4: Supreme Court. Remember Obama lost the Supreme Court eleven out

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Speaker 4: of thirteen times on issues of basically abuse of power.

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Speaker 4: That's one part and the other part. You and I

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Speaker 4: both made this point many times. It's a critical one.

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Speaker 2: Trump was given the biggest invitation to straight up autocracy

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Speaker 2: in certainly in living memory in this country.

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Speaker 4: I mean, nothing else I think even comes close. I

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Speaker 4: mean even much more so than even in the aftermath

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Speaker 4: of nine to eleven. We were united to face an enemy.

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Speaker 4: When you're looking at a pandemic and everyone's scared of

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Speaker 4: their neighbor. The opening for autocracy there is enormous. And

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Speaker 4: while I have some criticisms of everybody involved in COVID,

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Speaker 4: including Trump, at the end of the day, he left

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Speaker 4: it to states to make their own decisions and did

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Speaker 4: not take it as an opportunity to be a tyrant.

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Speaker 4: And Joe Biden did take it as an opportunity to

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Speaker 4: be a tyrant. So this notion and an unconstitutional one. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: the notion that Trump is the end of the Constitution

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Speaker 4: is a hysterical nonsense and people who say it should

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Speaker 4: should honestly take take a walk, calm down.

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Speaker 2: I think from a historic perspective, Trump had an opportunity

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Speaker 2: the likes of which we have not seen since World

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Speaker 2: War Two to enact sweeping federal power, and obviously Roosevelt

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Speaker 2: did it during World War Two to even use Japanese

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Speaker 2: internment camps as an example, that was how sweeping his

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Speaker 2: power was during World War Two. Since then your point,

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Speaker 2: I think it makes sense. In the immediate aftermath of

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Speaker 2: nine to eleven, when we were unclear whether there might

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Speaker 2: be more attacks coming, the president to protect the country

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Speaker 2: did enact many different policies, but that was a relatively

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Speaker 2: short lived process other than World War Two. Most of

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Speaker 2: us right now, and I know there are some of

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Speaker 2: you out there that in living memory can recall the

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Speaker 2: World War II process, Most of us cannot. You're right,

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Speaker 2: and these historians really and this particular clip we're playing

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Speaker 2: as John Meacham, but also Michael Beschlos said, do you

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Speaker 2: remember what he said? If Republicans win in twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 2: there's going to be firing squads. I'm paraphrasing, but he

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Speaker 2: went on MSNBC and basically said, people are going to

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Speaker 2: be lining up and shooting people who disagree with them politically.

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Speaker 2: These people are uniquely indefensible to me, Buck, because I look,

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Speaker 2: if you're Karine Jean Pierre and you are a partisan

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Speaker 2: political shill and you go on and you make arguments

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Speaker 2: that are true, I don't appreciate it, but I understand

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Speaker 2: that it's part of the game. You always talk about

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Speaker 2: Senator Harry Reid lying about Miss Romney Romney and it worked,

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Speaker 2: and so that's it's unfortunate to have lies at the

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Speaker 2: heart of the political process.

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Speaker 3: But if you're a rabid partisan, that often happens.

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Speaker 2: The whole point of being a historian and certainly one

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Speaker 2: of these public historians who goes on and talks about

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Speaker 2: the context of American history and are a unique experiment

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Speaker 2: as a republic, is that you have perspective and aren't

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Speaker 2: a prisoner of the moment to say that the Constitution

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Speaker 2: won't exist if Donald Trump is elected president?

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Speaker 3: Do we?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I would love to hear John Meacham say, okay,

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Speaker 2: so historically, can you point me to a moment in

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Speaker 2: time where any president has been trying to put his

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Speaker 2: chief political rival in prison for the rest of his life.

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Speaker 3: This has never happened before, so he wouldn't be able

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Speaker 3: to point to a historic moment. Isn't that a bigger.

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Speaker 2: Threat than anything that Donald Trump might do if he

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Speaker 2: were elected president?

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Speaker 3: These people, these historians.

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Speaker 2: Frankly Buck, I mean, I get really fired up about this,

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Speaker 2: the fact that they would go on because they're leaning,

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Speaker 2: they're using their imprimature of legitimacy to argue something that

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Speaker 2: isn't entirely without defense from a historical basis.

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Speaker 4: You know, It's like I wrote a big, dusty book

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Speaker 4: about Rutherford B. Hayes, So listen to me now. On

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Speaker 4: the future of democracy in twenty twenty three, that's kind

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Speaker 4: of how this goes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're they're treated as if they are above reproach.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think Beschelo's saying people are gonna get shot,

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Speaker 2: lined up and shot. If I think he said, I'm

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Speaker 2: not sure we'll have another pre election after this, this should.

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Speaker 4: Be credibility destroying immediately. But this, Clay, this is all

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Speaker 4: going to why, you know, I think we have to

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Speaker 4: be so careful about analyzing the feelings and the mood

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Speaker 4: of the country from a right of center perspective. People

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Speaker 4: Democrats on the left when it comes to Trump. I mean,

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Speaker 4: they we're going now into eight years of this. They

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Speaker 4: have been conditioned in like Pavlovian fashion, they have been

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Speaker 4: conditioned to be terrified at the prospect of Trump being

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Speaker 4: in office again. Yeah, and that means that, you know,

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Speaker 4: it's it's a very different calculation than it would be

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Speaker 4: in a normal, you know, normal election year. You know,

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Speaker 4: would would some random Republican up against Joe Biden doddering

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Speaker 4: around do better? You know, I don't think we're going

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Speaker 4: to get to find out. We'll see.

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Speaker 3: Let's let's switch gears here for a second.

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Speaker 3: We are closing up shop here for the day. On

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Speaker 4: I want to remind you to please subscribe to the

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Speaker 3: And we have another.

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Speaker 4: Voice from Kentucky, mister Clay Travis, a VIP listener named Patty,

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Speaker 4: who says, I'm a sixty one year old from Kentucky

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Speaker 4: who really likes Buck. I liked it. He is realistic

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Speaker 4: and speaks common sense. Well, Clay speaks of rainbows and unicorns.

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Speaker 3: Love you guys.

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Speaker 2: I'll accept that between the two of us, I would

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Speaker 3: I like Patty from Kentucky a lot.

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Speaker 2: Great lady not that there's anything not that there's anything

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Speaker 2: wrong with rainbows and and unicorns.

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Speaker 3: Very popular.

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Speaker 2: And for people out there who don't know who was

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Speaker 2: what was our caller who has the best taste in

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Speaker 2: radio on the planet, who called from Kentucky in Kentucky's

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Speaker 2: Kentucky from Kentucky and Kentucky if I remember correctly, And

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Speaker 2: by the way, Kentucky has one of probably the biggest

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Speaker 2: election in twenty twenty three because the governor is I

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Speaker 2: know there's elections in Virginia. I know there's elections in Louisiana.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure I'm missing some states. It's sort of the

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Speaker 2: off year elections. Republicans are gonna win in Louisiana. We'll

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Speaker 2: see what happens with the legislature. You know, I actually

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Speaker 2: watched the videos, by the way, Buck of that crazy

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Speaker 2: state representative, the porn videos. They they aren't just wait

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Speaker 2: what the Virginia House delegate Canada who was making they

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Speaker 2: got sent to me and uh and I did the research.

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Speaker 3: I clicked on him like this is not this is

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Speaker 3: not like hey.

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Speaker 2: Like tasteful nudity, right, this is not like even Playboy

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Speaker 3: This is like really graphic.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe that anyone would ever run for political

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Speaker 2: office who made these videos crazy so that they got

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Speaker 2: the elections going on in the state of Virginia, and

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Speaker 2: then in Kentucky.

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Speaker 3: You have got this is big, all right.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I want everybody listening to me in the

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Speaker 2: entire state of Kentucky to sit up and take notice.

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Speaker 2: Right now, there has been almost no one, as we

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Speaker 2: have talked about on this show, who has been held

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Speaker 2: accountable for his or her failures on COVID. Andy Basher,

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Speaker 2: the governor of Kentucky, was an unmitigated disaster on COVID.

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Speaker 2: He was a tyrant. He is running for reelection in

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Speaker 2: a red state. Y'all have to rise up and kick

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Speaker 2: his ass in Kentucky. I'm sorry, Daniel Cameron has to

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Speaker 2: win this race, and it's gonna be right in the march. Buck,

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Speaker 2: because evidently no incumbent can be held responsible for screwing up.

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Speaker 2: I lived in Tennessee. I went to Louisville in May

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Speaker 2: of twenty one, and I went up at a great time,

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Speaker 2: went to Buffalo Trace. May have had a lot of bourbon.

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Speaker 2: Incredible trip Buffalo Trace Distillery. Awesome time. Buck, Louisville. They

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Speaker 2: basically shut down the whole city of Louisville because of

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Speaker 2: Andy Basheer. You got screwed if you lived in Kentucky

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Speaker 2: because Andy Basheer was your governor, you better be working

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Speaker 2: your ass off to vote for Daniel Cameron if you're

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Speaker 2: listening to us right now in Kentucky. And Andy Basheer

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Speaker 2: has to be beaten. I'm fire up about this race.

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Speaker 2: It's the most consequential, closest race probably that's gonna happen

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Speaker 2: in November anywhere in the country, and Daniel Cameron has

659
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Speaker 2: to win. I thought Clay and I were going to

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00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 2: have a conversation about in a one v one match,

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Speaker 2: what is the scariest animal that we could beat in

662
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 2: a fight to the death each one of us about

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00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,280
Speaker 2: serious political issues end of the show. I was thinking,

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Speaker 2: because there are people out there, for example, that you know,

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00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 2: talking crazy talk, they think they could beat a ten

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Speaker 2: foot alligator, we.

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Speaker 3: Should have this conversation tomorrow. I think I could. I

668
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 3: think I could kill an alligator.

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Speaker 2: You think you could take a ten foot alligator alligator

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Speaker 2: on on land, not water? You're your toast, you have

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00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 2: no shot on land. I think I could take. I

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Speaker 2: think I could take a five to six foot alligator.

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Speaker 2: And here's my theory on why I think I could

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Speaker 2: beat the alligator. I've studied this. You flip the alligator over.

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00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 2: This is big alligators. A lot of people don't know this,

676
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 2: and I might save somebody's life in Florida right now.

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Speaker 3: You know they can't open their mouths very well. The

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Speaker 3: musculature is very weak.

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00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 2: That's right, This is this is this is how I

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00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 2: would win you. Yes, bucked, you're right, But did you

681
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 2: know if you can flip a gator over, you get

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00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 2: them on their back, they go to sleep. If you

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Speaker 2: hold they can't. I swear this is true. I swear

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Speaker 2: this is you.

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Speaker 3: Hold their mouth.

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Speaker 2: They can't open your mouth if you hold it, and

687
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 2: then you get them on their back, they go to sleep.

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Speaker 2: And then I would just go, like the people's elbow

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Speaker 2: right on the unprotected undercarriage of the alligator, over and

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00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,399
Speaker 2: over and over again until I killed them. I would

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Speaker 2: go as long as I needed to elbow elbow, elbow

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Speaker 2: right in the mid section. I think I could kill

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Speaker 2: a five or six foot alligator that way.

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Speaker 4: Five or six feet maybe, but we're really we really

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Speaker 4: got to get into the eight to ten foot range.

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Speaker 2: No, I would use that battle. But I say I

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00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 2: could kill a five to six foot alligator.

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Speaker 4: I mean I could kill a two foot long Great

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Speaker 4: white shark probably, But that doesn't mean I could take

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Speaker 4: like a real great white shark.

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Speaker 2: Well, but you could like No, but you could throw

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Speaker 2: the great white shark. If you grab the tail, you

703
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:48,760
Speaker 2: could just throw it out of water and it would

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00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:53,919
Speaker 2: it would die, right, I'm talking show. Flip them over,

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00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 2: they go to sleep, elbow mid section.

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Speaker 3: That's the wind.