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Speaker 2: Remember when you said you would die for me? Shit,

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Speaker 2: Hey? Welcome to the Black Guy to his podcast, your

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Speaker 2: Because we love stoves wonderful. I imagine that was said

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Speaker 1: Yeah. They was like, they probably looked like this person

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Speaker 2: I got to meet miss Hendricks. Coolest moment for me

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Speaker 2: this sweet lady actually took time to speak to me. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: I stand Barbara Hendricks as a treasure. Well at least

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Speaker 2: to check out more Brandy Keith Brown, look forward to it.

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Speaker 2: Thanks again, Love cec Asie. David says, amazing story.

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Speaker 3: Ay, appreciate that this is a great conversation. I was

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Speaker 3: Thank you guys for the compliments and for the comments.

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Speaker 2: I can't to work today. I just I just finished

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Speaker 2: you know, mix it up, Andy says hi Rod and Karen.

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Speaker 2: I normally don't comment when Rod slanders me and my

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Speaker 2: fellow sugar griate eating tippers about our grit eating habits,

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Speaker 2: be a poll answer. I am a proud sugar grits eater. Rod,

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Speaker 2: don't knock sugar in your grits. I use brown sugar

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Speaker 2: Trump was a poe? All of them or most of them? Karen?

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Speaker 2: What do you think? I'm not gonna say I've boasted

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Speaker 2: you forgot to add none as a selection. Rode, why

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Speaker 2: are you hating on sugar grit eaters for question? Marks?

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Speaker 2: Don't knock it till you try it, Rod, ain't nothing

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Speaker 2: like a salmon patty with grits and syrup all over

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Speaker 2: both m sick people? Sad? Did they listen to this show?

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Speaker 2: A lot of sick people to need help? Ama says

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Speaker 2: people who love the correct grade to eat grits here.

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Speaker 2: I've tried sugar grits. I'm not even gonna say it

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Speaker 2: I'm saying is it wasn't right. Yeah, it's a perversion.

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Speaker 2: There are too many hot cereals out there that are

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Speaker 2: sugar grits? A think? Stop it. Our ancestors didn't die

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Speaker 2: bet the don't even speak to y'all cigagrits eaters. Now,

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Speaker 2: all your food is underseason. So what I'm saying y'all

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Speaker 2: putting hot y'all putting hot sauce on slices of cake too?

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Speaker 2: Is that what we're doing? M sweet potato pie, Hand

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Speaker 2: Peede in your cof corn Flakes? This is My Father's Day?

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Speaker 2: The Father's Day episode of the Yeah my dad came

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Speaker 2: thank you. Yeah. Did you guys know Terminators still streaming

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Speaker 2: So good man, y'all should check it out.

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Speaker 4: Man.

435
00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:32,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, because that that's the one where Arnold comes to Naggard, right, yeah.

436
00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,680
Speaker 2: I mean they come in Nagid every every time. That

437
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,080
Speaker 2: was the one where he ran up on them, like

438
00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:41,760
Speaker 2: you know, they want to motorcycle people. That's the two

439
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,399
Speaker 2: there were too. There was the Linquid like dudes just

440
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,840
Speaker 2: hanging out in the park and Arnold road up He's

441
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 2: like your clothes, give them to me.

442
00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 3: And the one dude like they all put out these little.

443
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:57,320
Speaker 1: Last these little last switch lads like ah, it was

444
00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:58,160
Speaker 1: the eighties.

445
00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:01,200
Speaker 2: Right, the fucked on white boys up man, so good,

446
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 2: John Baby John says, couldn't wait for your reply to

447
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 2: my grit's comment, and I have to confess it was hilarious.

448
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:14,360
Speaker 2: I'm gonna leave that alone, like you should your grits anyway. Anyway,

449
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,359
Speaker 2: when you guys talked about balancing relationships, in particular the

450
00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,600
Speaker 2: role of husbands and fathers, I was reminded of how

451
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,840
Speaker 2: low the bars for men in our culture. I'm still

452
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,120
Speaker 2: surprised when I hear men talking about how they wouldn't

453
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:28,840
Speaker 2: change diapers. For example, I insisted on changing diapers for

454
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,200
Speaker 2: all three of my kids. Transformed into a white woman,

455
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 2: the privilege. If there wasn't a changing table in the

456
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,920
Speaker 2: men's room at stores and restaurants, I do not know

457
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:36,480
Speaker 2: why so.

458
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,440
Speaker 1: Many of them don't have that. Like I said, I'm

459
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:43,720
Speaker 1: a woman, so most most women's restroom have it, even

460
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 1: if it's inconvenient. It could be like in the most

461
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 1: awkward places, but you have one. But no, most men don't,

462
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:54,399
Speaker 1: particularly for men that are with like their children and

463
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:58,920
Speaker 1: they go to the bathroom like I am not gonna

464
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:00,840
Speaker 1: allow my fur five six year old to go into

465
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:02,920
Speaker 1: the bathroom by themselves. So yes, we're going in here

466
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 1: together people, right.

467
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 2: I also do a share of cooking, cleaning, and grocery

468
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 2: shopping on top of mowing the lawn and other quote

469
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,120
Speaker 2: unquote men's work at our house. I think I've heard

470
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 2: Rod describe this is just common courtesy appreciation for your partner.

471
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,639
Speaker 2: I agree, Yeah, I mean that's so weird. It's like

472
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 2: because relationships for most people are power dynamics. Yes it is.

473
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,439
Speaker 2: And if you treat everything as a power dynamic, then

474
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 2: you start being like wins and losses better or worse,

475
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 2: you know. And I don't want to look at a

476
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,680
Speaker 2: person in my household that way, you know. I don't

477
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 2: want to be like you know, I, you know, I

478
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,399
Speaker 2: am losing because I did this thing today and you

479
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 2: didn't do this thing today. And oh and it'll come

480
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,119
Speaker 2: up later in the show, because I already seen some

481
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,360
Speaker 2: of the comments on other episodes. But if you look

482
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 2: at everything as balanced as tit for tat, and which

483
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,439
Speaker 2: is how most people do, then I think that's how

484
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 2: they end up in relationships where it's kind of a

485
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 2: competitive nature. And I'm not saying it's wrong. I really

486
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,159
Speaker 2: think that's just that average relationship for most people is

487
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 2: somewhere in that range of like, I do this thing,

488
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 2: and you should do.

489
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 3: Like I do, blank, I do, ax you do?

490
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 2: Why? You know what I'm saying, and that will balance

491
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,159
Speaker 2: the equation. And I don't know, I don't look at

492
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 2: it that way. I think everybody should do, you know what,

493
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,440
Speaker 2: like do what you're good at, do what you can

494
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:25,399
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. But you know, learn new things,

495
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 2: you know, learning and getting better at cooking and still

496
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 2: a skill that's good for me. Whether I'm married or not.

497
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 3: You know, even if I just want to cook for myself,

498
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 3: I'm still it's still.

499
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:37,680
Speaker 2: Good for me to know how to cook and to

500
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 2: get better and more proficient in the kitchen and stuff

501
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 2: like that. All that stuff is good. I just got

502
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 2: so bold.

503
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,120
Speaker 1: He he looked at me, like, what are you doing

504
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 1: in my territory? I was like, well, excuse me.

505
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:51,920
Speaker 2: Shit, she was in the kitchen the other day and

506
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 2: I was supposed to be cooking. I don't know what

507
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 2: she was doing. She was just standing there, y'all. I

508
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 2: don't understand. Okay, It's like you hungry, do you want

509
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 2: this food? I'm not gonna be able to make it

510
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 2: through you anyway. So but yeah, you know, so stuff

511
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 2: like that. But I don't like and I like doing it,

512
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I mean it's you might

513
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 2: discover you like something. I know there's women that are

514
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 2: like yo, cooking, cooking. Cutting the grass is extremely like

515
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 2: meditative for me. So it's relaxing. I like cutting the grass.

516
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:25,479
Speaker 2: It's emboldening. It's like a self sufficiency. I'm out here

517
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 2: in the front yard and all my neighbors cutting my

518
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 2: motherfucking grass. And that's what I like. You know that,

519
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 2: like they're trying something different. You don't know what the

520
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 2: fuck you'll like, you know, and maybe it will just

521
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 2: be a chore and you'll hate it and whatever. Maybe

522
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 2: pay somebody to do it for you or whatever. But

523
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 2: the point being, everybody should be trying to chip in

524
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 2: where they can, you know. That's just that's just what

525
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 2: it is.

526
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 1: M Yeah, my mama until she couldn't cut grass no more.

527
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,120
Speaker 2: She loved to cook.

528
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:55,120
Speaker 1: Like cutting grass was her thing. It was not my thing.

529
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 1: I tried that shit one time. I was like, fuck,

530
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,400
Speaker 1: I was a little kid. I said, fuck, I will

531
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 1: pay somebody get my black ass out hand to do it.

532
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 2: This is bullshit, right, So yeah, And the thing is

533
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 2: the reason I talk about it from my perspective as

534
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 2: a dude so much is because I feel like, you know,

535
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 2: women are taking for granted and then expected to do

536
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 2: that work.

537
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 3: And SIS had relationship, Like I don't know how same sex.

538
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 2: Relationships deal with it and stuff. I'm sure that's totally different,

539
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 2: but SIS had relationships. We are so fucking influenced by society.

540
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 2: It's like men will just sit there and be like

541
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 2: looking at the kitchen like, why the fuck is it

542
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:32,919
Speaker 2: not making itself?

543
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 3: When it is the food gonna happen.

544
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 1: It's like taking at the clothes like wine day wise,

545
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 1: your draws in there too, what's up with that?

546
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 2: Right? You don't understand like how much work it is,

547
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 2: and you'll never value that work because you don't do it.

548
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,479
Speaker 2: So once you do it and you realize, like, yo,

549
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 2: this is either difficult or I'm very well suited for this,

550
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 2: I mean to me that that helps because then you

551
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 2: value the person in relationship more. But a lot of

552
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 2: people you know, don't do that question for rad, are

553
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 2: you more annoying by people put sugar in their grits?

554
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 2: Or those who rate Dark Knight over the Black Panther. Huh,

555
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 2: that's a good question. I'm gonna say, Sugar Grit people

556
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 2: are worse because Dark Knight is still an excellent movie.

557
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 2: You know. Don't let you know Jail Covin's like Facebook

558
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 2: thing where he decided to like be anti Black Panther

559
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 2: for some reason. Don't let the jokes like I love

560
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 2: Dark Knight like it was. It's straight up one of

561
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 2: my favorite movies of all time. It's definitely watchable. I

562
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 2: can rewatch the shit, like if it's on HBO or

563
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,360
Speaker 2: some shit, then that's just what's happening for the next

564
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 2: hour and a half two hours if I see it.

565
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 2: And it's one of my favorite movies of all time.

566
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 2: So just because we were joking back and forth, I mean,

567
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 2: and I would hope, you know, deep down, Jail would

568
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 2: thinks Black Panther's really good, you know, I mean, I

569
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 2: know he gave it. I forget what Grady gave it.

570
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 2: Probably some bullshit like I as or b plush you

571
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 2: know how he does. But the point being, like, I

572
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 2: would hope that reasonable people can agree that it's just

573
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 2: a style of it's just a preference, you know, I mean,

574
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 2: Black Panther didn't inspire anybody to shoot up a theater

575
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 2: and kill people. It didn't know, you know, it didn't

576
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 2: you know, it didn't inspire some of the worst racism

577
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 2: in the country. But it still was a superb film.

578
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 2: Christopher Nolan is just my man, so I mean, he's

579
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 2: my man so much. I fuck with Interstellar and nobody

580
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 2: fuck with that, so you know, to me, it's not

581
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 2: as egregious. It's trying to put sugar in grits. That's

582
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 2: that's just racist. Even he says, I felt real fuck

583
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 2: with over the story with the little four year old

584
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 2: who stole his grandfather's car because of the way the

585
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 2: news presented it.

586
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 3: That's a funny story, isn't he cute?

587
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 2: Because I remember Ltarian who liked to do hood rat

588
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 2: stuff with his friends. Come on, people will calling him

589
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 2: all kinds of thugs and wanting to arrest his grand

590
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 2: the grandmother. I wanted to laugh this story, but I

591
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 2: was annoyed that little Chad didn't get that same energy.

592
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 3: Fuck the media, okay, e e. Here's the only thing

593
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 3: I would say, though.

594
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 2: The news that covered it at the time, they seemed

595
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 2: to be in on the Laitarian thing, Like they didn't

596
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 2: seem to be like he's a thug, he should go

597
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 2: to jail. They laughed at it. They was even like,

598
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 2: you know, they was the ones that got the quotes.

599
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 2: I don't like the hood right things with my friends,

600
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 2: Like they was cool. But the comments section, all the

601
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 2: news that spawned off of the original article in the video, Yeah,

602
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 2: absolutely agree. It was not cute. It was not fun

603
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, and and to be fair, that

604
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 2: kid was way younger than Laitarian, but still, yeah, the

605
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 2: Latarian thing, like all black shit eventually becomes swelled by

606
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 2: this country's rot right. It's like you put it out

607
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 2: into the into the universe and it could be funny

608
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 2: and cute, but eventually it won't be funny and cute

609
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 2: because racism is gonna creep in and be like this

610
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 2: black boy need to go to jail. It's like here

611
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 2: we go. You know. But I totally feel you though,

612
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 2: because it can definitely be aggravating.

613
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: You know.

614
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 2: I didn't think the coverage was necessarily fucked up and

615
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 2: with Litarian, the people who did the original thing, but

616
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 2: after that, yeah, absolutely it got that way. The poll

617
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 2: was did the principal cut the Valedatorian speech on purpose. Yes,

618
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 2: yes he's racist. No, total coincidence, very rare. Zero percent

619
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 2: of people said total coincidence, which means he got one

620
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 2: hundred percent that my fuck was racist a result. Monique says,

621
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 2: OJ getting on social media letting the chopper ring out

622
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 2: like this is utterly terrifying.

623
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 3: To be quite honest, he seems unhinged.

624
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 2: I saw some tweets that where that account was like

625
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 2: I murdered them, and I was it was like, oh fuck,

626
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 2: no block when your dad said there was a knock

627
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 2: at the door for your lift, go outs Ryan lool

628
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 2: he wild protecting neck ride. Oh no, the pun was

629
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 2: so uninttentional. Shaking my head anyway, I hope OJ leaves

630
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 2: well enough alone and moves on. We don't need this shit.

631
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 2: And Sam G says coincidence and the fact of cutting

632
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 2: the mic that he is probably cooling all the time,

633
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 2: how embarrassing. Yeah, that do was so such an embarrassment

634
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 2: and he was a person of color too. Nineteen eleven,

635
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 2: the episode was Silence is the Best Revenge, and we

636
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 2: got nine comments.

637
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: Y'all had a lot to say, apparently, m.

638
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 2: I don't evenmember what we talked about let's see random

639
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 2: thought Dr Dominican Republic death, FBI agent didn't go to

640
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 2: jail my sidebind, silence, revenge, Oh, Julius Pace, that was

641
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 2: a big one. And Kyle kash Off the dude with

642
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 2: the with the gun thing, I mean with the nigger tweets.

643
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 2: All right, Vertigo Stark says, was coming here to comment

644
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 2: on oh wait okay.

645
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 3: Anonymous says, hello, just wanted.

646
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 2: To give more some more context on the Julia's Place fiasco.

647
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 2: When Jackie Aina or how do you pronounce this Aina?

648
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 2: When Jackie Aina think, oh yeah it is Aina? Okay.

649
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 2: When Jackie Ayna mentioned the starcasm, she was referring to

650
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 2: a now deleted post. Before that apology, the owner titled

651
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 2: the Instagram caption saying, please save us from this dramatic situation.

652
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 2: After the jeffree Star reposts, another comment or mentioned the

653
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 2: reason why people were upset, and the owner replied with okay,

654
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 2: dot sorry dot. Before that, the owner rode a tweet

655
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 2: to Jackie saying, if it gives you joy to take

656
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 2: us down, and so be it. That tweet is still up.

657
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 2: The owner was definitely being sarcastic before the pr apology Oh,

658
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 2: I didn't know that pieces come together.

659
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 1: That's information that I wouldn't know. Y'all.

660
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 2: Was just interesting though, right, because that's the Internet. You

661
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 2: literally can just delete some shit and you know it's

662
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 2: not in the article. They didn't quote it that the

663
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 2: one we read. So to me, I'm like, damn, why

664
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 2: Jackie is still going in? It sounded like a sincere apology.

665
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 2: Oh after the bullshit ones and the sarcastic comments, that's

666
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 2: where that comes from. That makes way more sense because

667
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 2: I don't like this, like I don't believe you. Yeah,

668
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 2: And I don't like to get on here and like

669
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 2: assume people is crazy, right, you know what I'm saying,

670
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 2: because I don't know Jackie Ayana, and I don't want

671
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 2: to be like, you know, let me just assume this

672
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 2: woman just making shit up. Like I'm like, it didn't

673
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 2: seem that way to me. The value of what we

674
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 2: knew at the time, Yeah, I'll and I'll be like,

675
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 2: maybe maybe we don't know everything. I try to keep

676
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 2: an open mind because of shit like that, because I

677
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 2: don't want to go in and be like everybody tripping.

678
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 2: First of all, y'all a crazy lead. This woman alone,

679
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 2: she just want to sell her makeup? Just what's frong

680
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 2: with y'all black people? I don't like being like that

681
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 2: because a lot of times you don't know what you

682
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 2: don't know, and you start on that tangent, you get

683
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 2: all rapped up and then someone goes, did you know

684
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 2: before this they posted seven tweets in the road state nigga.

685
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 2: You're like, oh, oh, well, yeah, that would make all

686
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 2: black people man, you know, and that would be a

687
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 2: different response. Yes, the single instance wasn't a cause the

688
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 2: cause of drawing support.

689
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 3: It's just the straw that broke the.

690
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 2: Camel's back after series of events over time, just like

691
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 2: with Shaye Moisture. Man, it shouldn't wants sheriff recover from

692
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 2: that because I know they did. They do a lot

693
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 2: of good, like quote unquote work like buying uh what

694
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 2: was it Ebony's uh the photo archive that was gonna

695
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 2: be destroyed, and a bunch and like there's this black

696
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,280
Speaker 2: woman Entrepreneur thing where they sponsor all these black women,

697
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 2: Like is everybody are they still canceled? I just don't know.

698
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 1: I know, whobody talking about them.

699
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I wonder if they still canceled.

700
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: You're the product on the low.

701
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder it would be a damn shame if

702
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 2: that's the product that worked for your hair and then

703
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 2: they get canceled, and now you gotta be like, and

704
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 2: I gotta pick the be tween going out here looking

705
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 2: at fool of supporting these people. Watching both of.

706
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 1: Those situations, somebody's like, well, I guess i'd be Amazon

707
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 1: at it then.

708
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 3: Right wrap it in the discreete package gift wrap.

709
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 2: Watching both of those situations is really telling how people

710
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 2: don't who don't engage with products black women use, are

711
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 2: so critical of how the masses of black women respond

712
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 2: when things go left. I'm glad that you expressed it

713
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 2: the company failed and knowing that fan base, because the

714
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 2: common retort to black women's outrage is always, y'all just

715
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 2: want to tear black people down.

716
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 3: No, black women are highly perceptive when they're.

717
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 2: Being used because sadly, we're accustomed to being mules for everyone,

718
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 2: even to other black people in some situation, in so

719
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 2: many situations, I just wanted to get that extra context

720
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 2: in case anyone was listening. And thank you both for

721
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 2: not being dismissive the outrage was justified. Oh yeah, yeah,

722
00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 2: that's listen real talk, real real talk. One of the

723
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 2: things that I think we still harbor inside of us,

724
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 2: even well meaning black folks, is this anti blackness of

725
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 2: Black people somehow are not sophisticated, and we make our

726
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 2: decisions so rashly without much start, and we just be

727
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 2: tripping and we don't care. Like while all human beings

728
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 2: can lack the nuance, can be hypocritical, all human that's

729
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,399
Speaker 2: true of every race, every creer, every coach. The thing

730
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 2: that people do, like when we talk about black voting

731
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 2: and if people do these like get off the plantation

732
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 2: or y'all niggas love Hillary Clinton and shit like that,

733
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 2: and it's like, that's not actually true. If you talk

734
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 2: to actual Black voters, we are very informed, We are

735
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 2: very active. Voters have to be.

736
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 1: It's life and death for us.

737
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 2: It's not no bullshiting, right, But when you listen to

738
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 2: how people talk about black voters, many of them being

739
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 2: people who claim to be woke, being people who claim

740
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,359
Speaker 2: there's a lack of respect for black voters in this way,

741
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 2: that's like the meaning of our vote specifically, of our

742
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 2: intelligence specifically, and it's coming from other black people who

743
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 2: claim that they have our best interests in mind right,

744
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 2: they tell us vote third party. Look at the black

745
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 2: people who are telling you to vote third party, and

746
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 2: how they talk about black voters who don't vote third party.

747
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 3: Come you know what I'm saying.

748
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 2: So like it's that type of thing where you might

749
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 2: not even realize it. Another perfect example. I brought this

750
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 2: up a long time ago, many times, all the like

751
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 2: South Park, Susan, you know what do you call it? Bodega?

752
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 2: You know, Patty or whatever, you know, that type of

753
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 2: thing when they used to have these things and they

754
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 2: go viral. They record these white women normally calling the

755
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 2: cops on innocent black people who were doing nothing wrong,

756
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 2: and it would go viral, everybody would know it, and

757
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 2: then you always have black people like popping up like I'm.

758
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 3: Sick of these nicknames.

759
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 2: It's not cute. It's like, no one thinks we're not

760
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,359
Speaker 2: saying this shit because it's cute. But let me tell

761
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 2: you what it is effective. Those stories go viral and

762
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:14,760
Speaker 2: then those people face consequences, and that's what was happening.

763
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 3: So there was a brilliance to it.

764
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 2: But if you already have a negative kind of view

765
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 2: of black culture, of gallows humor, of how we use

766
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 2: humor to cope. If you already walk in with a

767
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 2: negative conceived notion of perception of blackness, then guess what

768
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 2: you walk out with the same fucking thing you walk

769
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 2: out like. Do you think it's funny. No, we're all

770
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:41,399
Speaker 2: actually fucking furious. Come past now. Just because we might

771
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 2: be mocking this woman doesn't mean we're still not furious

772
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 2: at the system that would allow us to happen, that

773
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 2: would allow some woman to just call nine one one

774
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 2: and essentially threaten someone with death via the police, because

775
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 2: they know that's how fucking dangerous the police are to

776
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 2: black life and existence.

777
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,959
Speaker 3: We're not dumb, but calling her.

778
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 2: Who a woman who we never know their name? When

779
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 2: the video happens, no one ever talks about this shit,

780
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 2: you know, and they go, well, use their real name. Well,

781
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 2: you know how we found out her real name because

782
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 2: we called her South Park Susan, and then a million

783
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 2: people start a fucking video and then somebody said, yo,

784
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 2: I know her, and now we know where she worked,

785
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 2: where she lived, and she ain't got no job and

786
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 2: she got moved to fuck out the house. Like that

787
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 2: kind of shit is actually brilliance. It's black brilliance. But

788
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 2: if you hate yourself a little bit if you hate

789
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 2: our people a little bit instead, you think it's a

790
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 2: fucking joke. And that's how it was, and it's no

791
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 2: there's no intelligence behind it. So that's the kind of

792
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 2: thing where like I said, in this situation, especially with

793
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 2: it being black women who were upset, it is easy

794
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 2: for a lot of people to be like black beaches,

795
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 2: be chripping, bitches be chripping, you know how these women

796
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 2: just hate to see a black person. They're just jealous

797
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 2: when it's like or this person fucked up, right, and.

798
00:39:56,120 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 1: It's okay for black women to fuck up like a

799
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: black woman can fuck up and other black women can

800
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: say you fucked up. It don't mean I don't love you, sis.

801
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 1: It don't mean I'm not to get you, sis.

802
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 2: It don't mean I want what you got, sis.

803
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 1: It don't mean none of that. And uh, for me,

804
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: it's very frustrating because a lot of times when like

805
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: this happened, particularly within black women, within a black women's group,

806
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 1: you always have motherfuckers that you don't buy the product.

807
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,399
Speaker 1: A bunch of men, what the fuck are you doing here?

808
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: And y'all just add your fucking tape. People when when

809
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 1: it's like your presence isn't needed here.

810
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, allowed for the imagine this, allowed for the idea

811
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 2: of someone else's humanity, and lead with that first. And

812
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 2: I'm not saying there's never gonna be a time where

813
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 2: you disagree with the majority of the crowd.

814
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 3: I'm not saying it's never gonna be like like, oh,

815
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 3: the crowd is always right.

816
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 2: Sometimes it is wrong. There's plenty of shit where I'm like,

817
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 2: you know, like, like I said with R Kelly, you

818
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 2: see black women that support R Kelly, I don't go, well,

819
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,879
Speaker 2: we have to just I mean, listen, there's nuance here.

820
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, something wrong with those women. They they've

821
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 2: seen everything everybody else saw and they went somehow, he good,

822
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 2: fuck it and and that. So I'm not advocating that

823
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 2: there's no nuance, there's no critical thought. But if you

824
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,399
Speaker 2: allow for the idea that black people can critically think

825
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 2: instead of you niggas this and y'all that, then all

826
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 2: of a sudden you see the world's not as black

827
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 2: and white. And then in situations like this, instead of

828
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,280
Speaker 2: being like, you know, look at how these black women

829
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 2: took this woman down, it's like, well, maybe they got

830
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 2: a point and maybe she's the one that's wrong, because

831
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 2: why the fuck would just ninety percent of black women

832
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 2: suddenly be like fuck this woman on a you know,

833
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 2: on a random day, right.

834
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 1: One of the most fucking educated groups in goddamn America

835
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 1: is saying something's wrong. We're not stupid. We're highly educated

836
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: on the average, got multiple degrees. Probably going to get

837
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: another letter on that on your degree right now, you know.

838
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 3: And then there's this other element to it that.

839
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 2: Seeps into the whole indus story of beauty, cosmetics and

840
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:05,760
Speaker 2: makeup and all that stuff that, you know. And sometimes

841
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 2: I are on the side of caution and people probably

842
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 2: get a little frustrated with me listening to the show.

843
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 2: But it's one of the reasons I'm very careful about

844
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 2: what I say about the Kardashians and shit like that,

845
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 2: is because there is a disdain to the idea of

846
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 2: women's beauty, as if that industry is not a billion

847
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 2: dollar industry, as if people haven't created entire like economies

848
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 2: off of that, as if black women, a marginalized ostracized community,

849
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 2: didn't make empires from just being like, here are the

850
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 2: products that work for us. Because white people are so racist,

851
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 2: they won't even make them.

852
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 1: They won't even goddamn make them. And then what do

853
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: they do when they see niggas making money, They want

854
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,720
Speaker 1: to mimic and imitate it. And all of a sudden,

855
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: everybody got a goddamn natural line. Everybody got an African

856
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: American hairline.

857
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an entire cultural war going there. And I'm

858
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 2: privy to the fact that I'm not privy. I understanding

859
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:02,879
Speaker 2: of the fact that I don't know everything because it's

860
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 2: not my industry, it's not my calling, it ain't my business,

861
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 2: quote unquote, So I just understand that it's a lot

862
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 2: of power there. And then with the misogyny we have

863
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 2: all been indoctrinated into, it's very easy for people to

864
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 2: be like to laugh.

865
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 1: You know.

866
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 2: I still remember when people were like talking shit about

867
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 2: Kim Kardashian when not Kim Chloe kardashing when lamar Odham

868
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 2: was dating her. This is a long time ago, and

869
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,320
Speaker 2: people were saying shit like who is she to be

870
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:37,320
Speaker 2: dating lamar Odham? And it's like, well, technically, who is

871
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 2: lamar Odham is the real question? Like, and people got mad,

872
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 2: like it was a disrespectful thing to treat a basketball

873
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 2: player as if he's not that important. And it's like,

874
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 2: but that's the reality we're living in. This woman literally

875
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 2: makes more money and is more known than Lamar Oldham, Right,

876
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 2: that is just the truth. Like to a large sum

877
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,879
Speaker 2: of her fan base, he was some nigga who must

878
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,399
Speaker 2: have played a sport ball, right that they don't give

879
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,399
Speaker 2: a fuck about and that. And the thing is people

880
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 2: got offended by that, But it's like, that's actually okay,

881
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 2: you know, that's that's fine if people like that, Like

882
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 2: we shouldn't have to demean like because then you go,

883
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 2: they don't even do anything. It's like, I mean, you

884
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 2: say that, but that's like saying Rihanna doesn't do anything,

885
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 2: because now she's known for Fenny to some people more

886
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 2: than she's known for her music.

887
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wouldn't say she doesn't do anything.

888
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,280
Speaker 2: That's still a fucking billion dollar industry's still a million

889
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 2: dollar company and brand. Like, we just don't have no

890
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 2: respect for what women quote unquote women's work, you know,

891
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 2: And that's and that and that's why I'm kind of

892
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 2: careful about some of the things they say about this ship.

893
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 2: And I try to be open and transparent about you know,

894
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:50,879
Speaker 2: not knowing all the ins and outs of this because

895
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 2: I don't right Vertigo Stark says, is a reply to

896
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 2: the last comment, was coming to hear the comment on

897
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 2: just this. Jackie ain't a I mean Jackie Aina pronounced

898
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,839
Speaker 2: Aina and other black makeup YouTubers really pushed this brand

899
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 2: into companies beginning, but once white artists started taking notice,

900
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 2: the owners disowned their fan base. Wow, now that they

901
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 2: are dropping foundations, they need the black artists to try

902
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 2: to make their try their make up on their YouTube channels.

903
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 2: Jackie and others called the owner out on it, and

904
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 2: now she dropped this BS statement.

905
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 3: It's much more to the story. But I'm already fucked

906
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 3: with your cards.

907
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 2: Yeah. I also saw some tweets from this chee chey

908
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 2: woman and this was after we did the episode, and yeah,

909
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 2: she's still digging a whole Like I was like, oh oh,

910
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 2: oh no oh, you can't apologize and then be on

911
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 2: Twitter like complaining like you didn't apologize and turning yourself

912
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 2: into the victim, like that was pretty bad.

913
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 3: The owner she she is still being crack trash.

914
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 2: Alisa Alyssa Ashley, another beauty YouTuber, said the owner threatened

915
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 2: legal action for calling them out on her bullshit blocking

916
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 2: it influencers and favorite in the white ones, favorite in

917
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 2: the white ones. Uh, there would be black influences using

918
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 2: them all the time with no acknowledgment. But then the

919
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 2: company would gush if a white person mentioning them, you

920
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 2: hate to see it. Ooh, damn Janica if that's true,

921
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 2: that's terrible.

922
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 1: Attention. And so they were like, you know what, fuck it,

923
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: you actually need us because it's sad. But niggas's like,

924
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: one day you might not be popping over there, and

925
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen when you're not popping over there?

926
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 2: You know what it is?

927
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 1: Man?

928
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 2: And the same thing in podcasting, by the way, all

929
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 2: the creative avenues, there's a lot of white there's a

930
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:35,439
Speaker 2: lot of black people that are waiting on white people

931
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 2: to save them. Yes and yeah, and by save them,

932
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 2: I don't don't. I just want to say this because

933
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 2: it sounds like shade. I'm not even saying this in

934
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 2: a negative way. No, it's just another strategy. It's not

935
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 2: actually like I'm not there's no because when the rent

936
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 2: is dude, there's no fucking pride attached to it. There's

937
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 2: no honor attached to the rent. The rent is a

938
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 2: solid number that needs to be here every month. So

939
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 2: I understand that it's just another strategy. I've seen it

940
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 2: in podcasting all the time. Black people make a product,

941
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 2: and the whole hope is, I hope I can get

942
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 2: white people to listen to this. Hope I get white

943
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,800
Speaker 2: people to invest in this, Maybe they can let me

944
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 2: be part of the network, maybe they'll give me some

945
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 2: advertising money. It's like, how do I get to the

946
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 2: white pipe dream of them pulling me out? And that's

947
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,399
Speaker 2: what And it's been effective for certain people. I've seen

948
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 2: certain black podcasters and stuff, and I'm like, cool, they

949
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 2: got what they wanted. The problem for me personally, I

950
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 2: don't see myself doing that because I don't want to

951
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 2: create something that I don't feel serves us like like

952
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 2: and not just us as black people, I mean us

953
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,399
Speaker 2: as me and Karen. We just happen to be black people.

954
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 2: So I don't want to be doing the show where.

955
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 3: It's like if I talk about this race shit, they

956
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 3: might not get that sponsor we want.

957
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 2: You know, if I say, you know, this celebrity saying blank,

958
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 2: then that that they might fuck up the agreement we

959
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 2: have with a network. I'm really glad to not have

960
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,959
Speaker 2: to do that. That being said, we do have because

961
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:12,359
Speaker 2: it's no blueprint. We do like promote, we do ad

962
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 2: you know, advertise, we do social media and stuff. Right,

963
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 2: so people tweet us in our show all the time.

964
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,359
Speaker 2: They're like, Hey, I like your show. I was listening

965
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 2: to this. It's so great. And I'm gonna be frank

966
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 2: because the way my mind works, I don't keep up

967
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 2: with people who listen and who does it. For the

968
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 2: most part, it's really self protection. It's not a bad

969
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 2: reflection on any listener, Nope, but I need to have

970
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 2: some distance so that I don't, you know, so that

971
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 2: if you do decide to stop listening to us and

972
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,399
Speaker 2: fucking with us, I won't be hurt. I won't be like, Wow,

973
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 2: this person used to listen to us and talk to

974
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,320
Speaker 2: us every day and now they don't anymore. And I

975
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,720
Speaker 2: want to ask them like, do you not listen anymore?

976
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 5: Are you done?

977
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: Do you not like me?

978
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

979
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 3: That's that insecurity, And so why would I make that

980
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 3: a listener's problem.

981
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 2: You should be able to turn on and off the

982
00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 2: TV or the radio or the podcast the same way

983
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:00,040
Speaker 2: you're doing.

984
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 1: Else, right, Right, So for me, it's no pressure. If

985
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 1: you stay, you stay, you leave, you leave, right.

986
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 2: But my bigger point being there's there's people who say

987
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 2: they like our show, they listen to it. Imagine if

988
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:17,800
Speaker 2: we were only retweeting, mentioning talking about the like white

989
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,280
Speaker 2: people that are like, we listen to black out Tels.

990
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Oh, I can't believe so

991
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 2: and so, Oh they're so great. It's and then when

992
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 2: some black person is like, yo, I heard the show

993
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 2: and we're just like crickets. If that's the equivalent of

994
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 2: what the makeup thing is, I get why people feel like, yo,

995
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 2: I felt like you was trying to abandon us. Correct

996
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 2: and black people, we are chronically afraid of being abandoned.

997
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 2: It's probably our biggest insecurity. Is why we go in

998
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 2: so hard on like Black Republicans. It's why everybody flipped

999
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 2: on Kanye so hard. We'll never admit yeah, we'll never

1000
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:53,879
Speaker 2: admit it. I know there's people that want to write

1001
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 2: in right now, but it's not that because somehow being hurt, somehow,

1002
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 2: being insecure, somehow being abandoned is bad. Now you can't

1003
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 2: that we all have these same feelings. But that's how

1004
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 2: biggest insecurity is like somebody saying, Hey, I don't want

1005
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 2: to be part of your group anymore. I don't I'm

1006
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 2: looking down on you black people, I'm looking down on myself.

1007
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:16,839
Speaker 3: And so yeah, a makeup.

1008
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 2: Brand that people even perceive to be that way then

1009
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 2: big up in a fucking racist and trying to no

1010
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 2: big deal it on the back end. That's just you

1011
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 2: not knowing your brand and your support then. And you

1012
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 2: can't blame black people and be like y'all don't support nothing,

1013
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 2: or y'all is just an angry mob, Like no, you

1014
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 2: kind of slapped everybody in the face.

1015
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, And black people invest, particularly black women, invest billions

1016
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 1: and billions of dollars, like as a whole in fucking

1017
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 1: makeup and hair and all these products that we use.

1018
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: So our money counts. Our money, motherfucking counts.

1019
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 2: I just don't want to see people do. And I

1020
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 2: know this is gonna happen. Matter of fact, let me

1021
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 2: just give y'all some future right now. It won't happened,

1022
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 2: you know, this week, but soon somebody's gonna do it.

1023
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 2: If this brand goes under or stops being successful, somebody's

1024
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 2: gonna wait. With enough time passes and then they're gonna say, man,

1025
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,720
Speaker 2: it's a shame what happened to that brand? A black

1026
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 2: woman owned that, and y'all di da da da da

1027
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:21,320
Speaker 2: da da And just remember that it's to me, I

1028
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 2: call it the Chris set Missel defense. Come on, Chrisset

1029
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,959
Speaker 2: Minsel did something that was so egregious to her fan base,

1030
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 2: a fan base that is very anti Donald Trump, the

1031
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:37,439
Speaker 2: most politically active fan base in America. And then people

1032
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 2: waited a few months later and go, see, y'all can't

1033
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 2: cancel nobody, but y'all cancel christ Michelle, and they make

1034
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:49,879
Speaker 2: it seem like it's because she a black woman. It's like, listen, dog,

1035
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 2: there's a fucking nuance and a cause and effect in

1036
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 2: there that is her canceling herself.

1037
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 3: And it's kind of like you shitting on black women

1038
00:51:58,719 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 3: to be like.

1039
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 2: Y'all, Wow, y'all really stuck, y'all really had convictions and

1040
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 2: believed it, you know, saying what y'all said and did

1041
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 2: what y'all did.

1042
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,359
Speaker 3: Like that's kind of I imagine that that's gonna happen

1043
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 3: with just make a thing.

1044
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 2: I bet you we go if they are failing or

1045
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,479
Speaker 2: flopping or doing bad or if they close up shop,

1046
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 2: that people will wait until it's you know, people are

1047
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 2: gonna celebrate it first, but then people will wait when

1048
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 2: the coast is clear, it'll be you. Black women made

1049
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 2: this black woman not successful, and it's your fault as

1050
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 2: black women that watch that's.

1051
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 1: What happened, because at the end of the day, is

1052
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 1: our fault if it fails. It's never a fault of

1053
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 1: shit succeeds now no credit, right, but it's our fault

1054
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,800
Speaker 1: if his motherfucking failed. Because the thing with Rochette Michelle,

1055
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 1: she had people her own people was like everybody, don't

1056
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 1: take your black hands over there.

1057
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 2: Everything body other people bowed out the event.

1058
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 1: So it's so it's not like you were not forewarned.

1059
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 2: You know of it.

1060
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 1: You know it's because we love we love us, So

1061
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 1: people gonna be like, hey, before you fuck up your

1062
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:03,399
Speaker 1: bad let me tell you I love you, I'm looking

1063
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:03,800
Speaker 1: out for you.

1064
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 4: Dog.

1065
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 1: You know that decision don't look right, and we will

1066
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 1: continually forwarn you. You can even do the action and

1067
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 1: we'll be like, well, girl, this is how you fix it.

1068
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 1: Let me show you how to clean up shop and

1069
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 1: get your house in order so you can kind of

1070
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 1: savage the shit you destroyed. But once you literally turn

1071
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 1: on everybody that's actually trying to give you a helping hand,

1072
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:27,879
Speaker 1: after a while we're like, fuck it. Let the bitch burn,

1073
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 1: like you let the mother fucking burn. Because the thing

1074
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: with her, we were her fan base, and people underestimate

1075
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 1: the power, the power that black women had. People underestimate

1076
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:39,320
Speaker 1: how much our motherfucking dollars move this goddamn economy. It

1077
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 1: moves the economy. So if we're the ones showing up

1078
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,720
Speaker 1: to your goddamn concerts, where the one buying your tickets,

1079
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 1: we're the one buying. We are buying it, and you

1080
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: piss us off.

1081
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 2: Yes, bitch, you will suffer. Yeah, And she did interviews afterwards.

1082
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 2: Everybody forgets about that. It wasn't like she did that

1083
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 2: inauguration and got canceled. She started doing interviews like this,

1084
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 2: what's wrong with black and they not supporting me? And

1085
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 2: then I mean up until the inauguration, and then afterwards

1086
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 2: she was on some like he didn't even shake my hand.

1087
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 3: Can y'all believe it? And everybody was like, of course,

1088
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 3: we can believe it. We told you not to go

1089
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 3: down there.

1090
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 2: You caught to Caitlyn Jenner Okay, you thought you were

1091
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 2: trying to represent something you weren't, and now we all

1092
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 2: are laughing at you because we're like you fucking like

1093
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 2: you blew it so easily. So yeah, it's but like

1094
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 2: I said, I did notice people sliding in months later,

1095
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:34,359
Speaker 2: so we just canceled Christmas, Chris said Michelle. But when

1096
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 2: it's Kanye West, it's like, yeah, Kanye West fan base

1097
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 2: is not only black women. Come on, let me tell

1098
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 2: you something. If you go by only black women, I

1099
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:47,800
Speaker 2: guarantee your supporters dwindled. Like it's like, it's it's just

1100
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:49,879
Speaker 2: the fact that other people don't give a fuck. White

1101
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 2: people don't give a fuck. A lot of black men

1102
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 2: don't give a fuck. Like it's just like, go to

1103
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 2: the concerts, nobody Like you can see in the crowd

1104
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 2: who's out there buying tickets. It ain't us. Samla Agney says,

1105
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 2: I related to your stories of how each of you

1106
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 2: came to yourselves. I didn't take stock in my own

1107
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 2: self work until I moved into my apartment in twenty sixteen,

1108
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 2: which is a terrible year for me. Work was exhausting,

1109
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 2: and so was dealing with my mom, who was very

1110
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:15,800
Speaker 2: needy of my money, which sparked my anxiety and depression.

1111
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,319
Speaker 2: She also admitted to being a Trump supporter, to which

1112
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:20,879
Speaker 2: I cut her off completely. You can't save everybody, even

1113
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 2: the people you love. Come on, yeah, that and I'm sorry,

1114
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 2: you know, because that's almost like a death. But I'm

1115
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 2: sorry for your loss and the straining that relationship. But

1116
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 2: I'm sure you're better off. Man, as far as if

1117
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 2: somebody's dragging you down to causing anxiety and depression in

1118
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 2: you that way, it's sad. But sometimes you do have

1119
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 2: to cut off a toxic person. That's even even if

1120
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:43,320
Speaker 2: it's a family.

1121
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to do what's best for you, and

1122
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 1: sometimes that means losing family and friends and loved ones.

1123
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 1: And that's the hardest thing and the hardest reality of it,

1124
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:56,320
Speaker 1: because society has showed, society tells you that family over everything,

1125
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 1: like people have been most the average person in bought

1126
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 1: up like this. But these people are just people. You

1127
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 1: may be related to them by blood or relationships, but

1128
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 1: they're people and they're fucked up, just like the world

1129
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 1: is fucked up.

1130
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:07,880
Speaker 2: So if you would not.

1131
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 1: Tolerate with a complete fucking stranger doing this to you,

1132
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,359
Speaker 1: why would you tolerate with somebody that's just because they're

1133
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 1: related to you.

1134
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 2: Right, you're supposed to love me. Twenty seventeen was a

1135
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 2: year where I made some changes in my life, the

1136
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:21,840
Speaker 2: better myself, not just for the people around me, but

1137
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 2: for me. I've I've also taken stock and the impact

1138
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:27,839
Speaker 2: that I've made with other people. I'm working towards being

1139
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 2: my best self and not the person that we see

1140
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 2: on the commercials. Thirty one year old black, autistic, driven, smart,

1141
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 2: and motivated. This might might have happened later in my

1142
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:38,879
Speaker 2: life if I was where y'all ages, but a shit

1143
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 2: A ton of events has sparked, has sparked to love

1144
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 2: and appreciate myself. I've also gotten to the point where

1145
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 2: I stopped trying to please everyone, because we'll run ourselves

1146
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 2: crazy trying to be exceptional to everyone. I don't even

1147
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 2: miss the person I was three years ago, because I

1148
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 2: was psychologically drained, demoralized. Even I don't even I don't

1149
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 2: ever want to feel that way again, and I don't

1150
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:01,839
Speaker 2: know how I managed to stay saying through it all. Really,

1151
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 2: my purpose in life is to be a better person

1152
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 2: than I was yesterday, and that's not on some baby

1153
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 2: please shit like a dudes do, but when they look

1154
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 2: like dudes do when they caught cheating on their girlfriends. Right,

1155
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 2: I'm working towards it as if people have to get

1156
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 2: cut off because I don't want to do something, do

1157
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 2: something that I feel like that I feel like doing

1158
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 2: due to being uncomfortable, then that's the chance that I'll take, right, Like,

1159
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 2: why do I have to be outside of my comfort

1160
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 2: zone all the time?

1161
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 3: On my side when you come around, how's that?

1162
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 2: Okay? I need peace of my life to function. Without peace,

1163
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 2: we're doing nothing but emotion We're nothing but emotionless beings,

1164
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 2: living lies for other people, and I can't have that.

1165
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 2: Come on, I really appreciate that commentary from both of

1166
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 2: y'all because I absolutely can relate to this at this

1167
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 2: very moment in time. It really tuged the my heartstrings

1168
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 2: and I love that about that segment. So thank you, guys, Thank.

1169
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 3: You, Thank you.

1170
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 2: LM says relative new listener. Maybe about twenty episodes so far.

1171
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 2: Love the show and how fair and critical you both

1172
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 2: are when approaching subjects. Karen m hm. I would love

1173
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:11,959
Speaker 2: to hear you fan girl over some men like Rod

1174
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 2: does over women. The actresses that are fine and can't

1175
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 2: act big butts in wrangler jeans.

1176
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 3: Karen, we need you to level out the playing field

1177
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:26,959
Speaker 3: for the lady listeners. L M, well, Karen, not level

1178
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 3: it out.

1179
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 1: The thing is because you're fairly new, so you haven't

1180
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 1: really went back and like heard like years, shit over

1181
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 1: a decade, work for work over episodes. IM talk about men.

1182
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 1: There are fine ass men, you know that kn' act.

1183
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 1: But I don't give a damn because we're talking about

1184
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 1: the Rock. O'kay what y'all say about the Rock? Anything?

1185
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 1: The Rock is in my black ass is showing up

1186
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 1: because it's the Rock.

1187
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 2: Roger we know, except yeah, I won't do bottless. No,

1188
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 2: I won't do That's the whole appeal of that. The

1189
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 2: whole show is the Rock wearing tight ass suits. There's

1190
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 2: no fucking plot to the show. It's just the Rock

1191
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 2: gonna be dressed to the nas about eight times a season,

1192
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 2: and that's what everybody's really watching because it ain't nothing else. Well,

1193
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 2: here's the thing I was thinking. It came up earlier

1194
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 2: when Taught the Dude wrote in about the chores and

1195
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 2: its flitting housework. It's funny how people see everything as

1196
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 2: like kind of a power balance. You know, a competition

1197
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 2: almost like if you do this, then I get to

1198
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 2: do that. But our relationship, nobody gets to do anything.

1199
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 2: We just do what we want to do, and it's

1200
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 2: whatever we're comfortable sharing on the microphone. So if you're comfortable,

1201
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 2: you know, and like, if you want that from us,

1202
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 2: you know, obviously you can request anything, but you know,

1203
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 2: it's not necessarily like a juke box.

1204
00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 3: Can't just be like play this tune. So it's organic.

1205
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:03,439
Speaker 2: You only been here twenty episodes, so you probably don't

1206
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 2: know about some of these people, you know, when Kyle

1207
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 2: Drugo is on gamer throngs and shit like that. Yes, right,

1208
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 2: and even with that, like you know what, I would

1209
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 2: personally suggest if you need some lusting over some men

1210
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 2: specifically because I'm you know, I can only I'm only

1211
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 2: gonna be lessing after peoples I want. Okay, I'm not

1212
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 2: I'm not performing performative, but I suggest to listen to

1213
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 2: what's the tea? Okay, listen, those whores are thirst buckets,

1214
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 2: all right, and.

1215
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 1: With them, I am there, Nickji and Reggie be some

1216
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 1: good Instagram follow us, Yes, I be there for it.

1217
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 2: They are we weekly giving you some all the lust

1218
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 2: you can desire all the thirst and other men. I

1219
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 2: know people can never get enough, you know, but that's

1220
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 2: you know, that's pretty much uh the best place. And

1221
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 2: to be honest, it might not sound like if I

1222
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 2: keep my lust on the low really out here, I'm

1223
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 2: not even really giving y'all the full like scum baggery.

1224
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 1: Of it all the same.

1225
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 2: I mean, this is like PG me, that's the clean version,

1226
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 2: like I'm this is me me a script down versions,

1227
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 2: like I know strangers are hearing this on the internet,

1228
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 2: my mom and dad listening to show. This is like

1229
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 2: the nicest version of like, that's a fine ass woman

1230
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 2: I got for you, okay.

1231
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 1: Right, because we don't talk about me and could be

1232
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 1: riding and be like to the left, to the left,

1233
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 1: two of a'clock, nine o'clock.

1234
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, I get it. We just know

1235
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 3: we might not be the podcast for that, but.

1236
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 2: But we you know. But but I appreciate you listening,

1237
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 2: and hopefully you know you're making more episodes in and

1238
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 2: still enjoyed the show, and you know, I'll try to

1239
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 2: make sure that Karen is out here getting a proper

1240
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 2: amount of thirst in each episode. I don't I don't

1241
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 2: know what to tell you guys, just know that the

1242
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 2: listeners wanted Karen and that's what they demanded, right interest

1243
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 2: elbow the rock. You know what I'm saying. Movie coming

1244
01:01:58,520 --> 01:01:58,919
Speaker 2: up soon.

1245
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 1: I gonna be there opening weekend.

1246
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. Harvard said, Nah, Look everything on the application he

1247
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 2: sent in the last was in the last four years.

1248
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 2: All he talked talking about that boy that want to

1249
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:15,560
Speaker 2: go to Harvard two years is definitely in the period

1250
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 2: under review for entry into college and shed additional light

1251
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 2: on his character and considering the timing of applications, it

1252
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 2: could have just been one year before submission. These folks

1253
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:27,439
Speaker 2: act like his fourth professional job, went back and found

1254
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 2: his childhood follies instead of a college that admitts uh

1255
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 2: based on childhood behavior, deciding that his fact his behavior

1256
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:37,919
Speaker 2: was unacceptable and he only applied to Harvard. Who does that? Yes?

1257
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 3: De ponmould say it's a safety school. Who only appalls

1258
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:40,959
Speaker 3: the safety school?

1259
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 4: Uh?

1260
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 2: Even he says there's a little more to the cal

1261
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 2: cash out story than the media missed, or that the

1262
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 2: media myssts were deciding not to report on, which I

1263
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 2: actually think is worse than his repeated use of the

1264
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 2: word nigger and the text that got his letter as

1265
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 2: sent it from Harvard.

1266
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 3: He and his friends talk about making a map.

1267
01:02:57,840 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 2: Of the school to kill all the Jews.

1268
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 3: What, How's that not the big story?

1269
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 2: Right? Well, I guess you know what, if you say

1270
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 2: niggers seventy five times, I guess that is the story.

1271
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:11,920
Speaker 2: But this does seemed like it would be an annotation, right,

1272
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 2: seems relevant same avant.

1273
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 3: Mind you, this is the same school that got shot

1274
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 3: up a year or so later.

1275
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 2: I think the media really missed the lead with that one,

1276
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 2: literally planning or joking about school shootings as if that

1277
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 2: shit was funny. Fuck him and his apology because it

1278
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:28,320
Speaker 2: didn't mean the thing. He only addressed one part of

1279
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 2: the text, But if he was truly sorry about it,

1280
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 2: he would have addressed all the problematic portions of those texts.

1281
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 2: I can't blame Harvard a bit for not taking him

1282
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 2: back after that full apology. That kid is trash, his

1283
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 2: daddy is trash, his moment is trash, his president is trash.

1284
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 2: I hope he gets her peace.

1285
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 1: Ha ha ha.

1286
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, you almost didn't need to put your name on

1287
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 2: that comment. I would have known it was Eve just

1288
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 2: from the way it ended.

1289
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 1: Right.

1290
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 2: We did have a poll for this episode and it

1291
01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 2: was do you use silence as revenge? Yes or no?

1292
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 2: And this is very rare as well. On the show,

1293
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 2: this was almost fifty to fifty hereent forty nine fifty

1294
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 2: one percent.

1295
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:11,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot you're talking to people that is a

1296
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 1: very common practice of just shutting down, like just I'm

1297
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:15,160
Speaker 1: not gonna say anything.

1298
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 2: They just shut down. Yeah. Fifty one percent said no,

1299
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 2: but forty nine percent said yeah. And I phrased it

1300
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:24,440
Speaker 2: as revenge, not as coping Magan is not as just

1301
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:28,440
Speaker 2: to get back at somebody. And I'm I appreciate the

1302
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:31,920
Speaker 2: honesty because I actually think a lot of people do this. Yes,

1303
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 2: they do, you know.

1304
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 3: Unfortunately for a lot of people, I'm kind of I'm not.

1305
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:38,120
Speaker 2: It's not that I'm immune to this, but like, unless

1306
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 2: you're like living in my house, the silent treatment doesn't

1307
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 2: mean shit to me. Like, if you're my friend and

1308
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:48,240
Speaker 2: you try to silent treatment, it's like, I guess you

1309
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 2: just decided to opt out of being friends. I respect

1310
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 2: your autonomy enough to be like you should be able

1311
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 2: to do that no matter how close we were. If

1312
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 2: you decide at some point I don't want to be

1313
01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:01,560
Speaker 2: a friend no more, I'm gonna respect it. And it's

1314
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 2: a few times it's actually caused more problems that I'm

1315
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 2: like that because I'm always gonna The way my brain

1316
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 2: works is I'm always like I need people to opt in.

1317
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:14,920
Speaker 2: I always feel like a burden. I always feel like

1318
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 2: I'm the one that's the annoying one. I always it

1319
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 2: goes all the way back to me and my little brother. So,

1320
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 2: like you know, for me, if I don't have that

1321
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:26,480
Speaker 2: affirmation that you want to be here, I'm like, okay,

1322
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:28,200
Speaker 2: well you should be able to do whatever you want

1323
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 2: to do because I can't read your mind and I'm

1324
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 2: not going to force myself on you. It's okay, like I.

1325
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 1: Said, and I've learned I don't If you don't want

1326
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:38,040
Speaker 1: me to be here, I will go elsewhere.

1327
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:41,560
Speaker 2: And every time someone has done like the silent treatment

1328
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 2: to me, it's not at a thing of animosity. I

1329
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 2: literally am just like until this person, if they decide

1330
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:53,320
Speaker 2: to come back or whatever, then I'm going to leave

1331
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 2: them alone because that's the right thing to do, right.

1332
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:58,600
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna cry, I'm not gonna ask because you know,

1333
01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 1: over the years, I've learned a lot of times when

1334
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 1: you do do that, particularly if they're angry. All they're

1335
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 1: gonna do is lash out at you, and just a

1336
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:08,480
Speaker 1: lot of times for me when I do be like,

1337
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 1: is everything okay? But I I have to have a

1338
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:14,000
Speaker 1: special relationship to actually care enough to ask you. I'm

1339
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 1: telling you right now, average person. Fuck, I just going

1340
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 1: with my goddamn life. But for me to ask you,

1341
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 1: are you?

1342
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:22,840
Speaker 2: I actually got to care. The part that kills me, though,

1343
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 2: is the people that use silence as manipulation and power dynamics,

1344
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 2: because what they really want to do is put you

1345
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:31,440
Speaker 2: in a lower position than them, Like I'm now in

1346
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:34,120
Speaker 2: the power position because you're demanding to know what I

1347
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 2: have to say, and now I'm going to use that

1348
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:39,959
Speaker 2: to like rain down holy hell on your life. That's

1349
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 2: probably the biggest turn off I have with people that

1350
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:46,680
Speaker 2: use it as a weapon, Like that's probably my like literally,

1351
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 2: like there's very few things in my life that are unforgivable.

1352
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:52,480
Speaker 2: That's probably one, you know, cause it's like, what did

1353
01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 2: you just do? Like we I thought we had mutual

1354
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 2: respect for each other? Communication, honesty, these are the things

1355
01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 2: even in the friendship that's required. So for you to

1356
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:04,800
Speaker 2: just like play me like that, it's so like disconcerting

1357
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 2: that it's hard for me to get over and I

1358
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 2: you know, maybe that's a weakness on my own, but

1359
01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:12,960
Speaker 2: it's very hard for me to get over the silent treatment.

1360
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:16,160
Speaker 2: Even when I didn't know you were doing it. I

1361
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 2: remember somebody hit me up talking about, well, you know,

1362
01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 2: I didn't talk to you for this loan because it's

1363
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:23,840
Speaker 2: such and such, and I was looking at them like,

1364
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:26,280
Speaker 2: this is the last conversation we about to have because

1365
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 2: that was fucked up. I didn't even know you was

1366
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:30,640
Speaker 2: doing it, so you wasted your time. Because I'm not

1367
01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 2: mad at you over that. I'm mad, like I'm not

1368
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:35,480
Speaker 2: mad that we didn't talk the last three months. I'm

1369
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 2: mad that you tried that bullshit.

1370
01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:37,840
Speaker 4: You know.

1371
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 3: So it just depends on what side of it on

1372
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:43,880
Speaker 3: Peter seven forty nine says, I use oh, and I.

1373
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 2: Don't use a solid treatment. I mean, carry can tell

1374
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:49,400
Speaker 2: you that's not me. If I'm upset with you or

1375
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 2: something like that, I'd just rather talk to you, right.

1376
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:53,720
Speaker 2: I don't have to be disrespectful. I'm got to yell

1377
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 2: at you, but I'd rather talk to you.

1378
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:57,880
Speaker 3: I don't want to go to be angry. I don't

1379
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:01,720
Speaker 3: want to you know, not this it's just not my thing, right.

1380
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 1: I don't want the last words to be something mean

1381
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 1: or hateful of something out right.

1382
01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 2: And I totally get like taking some time to get

1383
01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 2: your mind together. Agree totally different than the silent treatment

1384
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:15,480
Speaker 2: because I can look at you in your face and say, hey,

1385
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:17,680
Speaker 2: if I talk to you about this right now, I'm

1386
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:19,640
Speaker 2: probably gonna say some of my regrets. So please let

1387
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:22,080
Speaker 2: me have some time. And that's to me, that's not

1388
01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 2: the same as a sound treatment. Sold treatment is just

1389
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:30,680
Speaker 2: blank period, mute button. You know, I refuse to engage

1390
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:34,760
Speaker 2: in this in you, in this conversation that I can't

1391
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:36,719
Speaker 2: do that anyway.

1392
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 3: We got comments.

1393
01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:40,519
Speaker 2: Peach of seven forty nine says I use solace more

1394
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:43,120
Speaker 2: for protection than it's revenge. Although I have gotten joy

1395
01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:44,800
Speaker 2: out of totally cutting a person out of my life,

1396
01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:48,000
Speaker 2: specifically a person who meant me hard, manipulative people who

1397
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:50,160
Speaker 2: try to use and abuse me. I will absolutely cut

1398
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:53,080
Speaker 2: them out of my life without remorse or regret. I

1399
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:55,960
Speaker 2: took it took a long time to get to this point. Yes,

1400
01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:58,680
Speaker 2: you have to draw and enforce your boundaries. Life has

1401
01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:00,960
Speaker 2: stopped me caring is read them all right now? Yes,

1402
01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:04,479
Speaker 2: Karen can really suck so you have to find a balance.

1403
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:07,360
Speaker 2: Laugh my ass off haha. As I typed something, Karen

1404
01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:09,240
Speaker 2: says that right, my ear, laugh my eyes off. I

1405
01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 2: love you guys, talk to you later. Thanks, Peter, thank you. Yeah,

1406
01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 2: you know. And like I said, it was interesting reading

1407
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 2: that article because I said, I can see I can

1408
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:21,639
Speaker 2: see it both ways, because I wouldn't use it as revenge,

1409
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:24,000
Speaker 2: but I absolutely would not engage you if I want

1410
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:24,799
Speaker 2: to protect myself.

1411
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:25,320
Speaker 1: Agreed.

1412
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:29,519
Speaker 2: You know. Allegra says this, I'm a natural problem solver.

1413
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 2: When I'm forced the silence, it's because all other terms

1414
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:35,719
Speaker 2: for a solution have been exhausted. Grown is going to grown,

1415
01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 2: so there's only so much I can do to get resolution.

1416
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:43,560
Speaker 2: Michelle says, yes, I'm petty. I appreciate the honesty. I

1417
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:45,360
Speaker 2: was hoping with a fifty fifty pole, we get some

1418
01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:47,720
Speaker 2: people on both sides. A mom says, in our first

1419
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 2: year of marriage, this is definitely my tactic, and eleven

1420
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:52,600
Speaker 2: years in, I still have to fight with myself not

1421
01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 2: to do that with my husband and daughter. I have

1422
01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:57,639
Speaker 2: depression and anxiety, and through the years I was doing

1423
01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:00,439
Speaker 2: really well not going silent on people. This year was

1424
01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:02,599
Speaker 2: difficult and I started doing it again, but I shocked

1425
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 2: myself when I started doing it to my daughter as well.

1426
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:10,559
Speaker 2: That's another thing because people see this as like friendships, peers,

1427
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:14,560
Speaker 2: you know, relationships, you know, people are your age, you

1428
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:19,599
Speaker 2: know people. But yet there's so many kids with stories

1429
01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:22,280
Speaker 2: of like parents that have used silence as or weapons

1430
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:25,960
Speaker 2: on them, and it sucks up. It fucks those kids up,

1431
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 2: you know, like like your mama's not talking to you,

1432
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:30,720
Speaker 2: your dad's not talking to you.

1433
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:34,280
Speaker 1: That's not right, you know what I mean, Like, yeah, yeah,

1434
01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:36,679
Speaker 1: those things that I've had to experience. And like I said,

1435
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 1: it's not it's not a good feeling. It's not a

1436
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 1: great feeling. The thing is they talk, They just don't

1437
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 1: talk to you. And that's the problem. Don't right, don't

1438
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:48,760
Speaker 1: talk to everybody else around me but me. You have

1439
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:51,639
Speaker 1: a problem with me, We need to talk.

1440
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:53,800
Speaker 2: And then of course there's an opposite side of this,

1441
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:56,880
Speaker 2: which is as kids, you just don't understand your parents

1442
01:10:56,960 --> 01:10:59,439
Speaker 2: have issues too, Yes they do, Like you don't have

1443
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:04,320
Speaker 2: the word for desire, anxiety depression, and you know mom's

1444
01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:06,040
Speaker 2: dealing with this and that you don't even know. So

1445
01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:07,439
Speaker 2: the only thing you know as a kid is the

1446
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:10,400
Speaker 2: person that's supposed to provide all the love, all the

1447
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:13,680
Speaker 2: care is not talking to me. You know that, And

1448
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:17,080
Speaker 2: that's it's scary. Uh So talking about it in therapy

1449
01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:19,759
Speaker 2: is health has been a big help. I do believe

1450
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:22,760
Speaker 2: in some circumstances, with certain types of people, sounds could

1451
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:24,880
Speaker 2: be the best answer. Oh, I totally agree, But not

1452
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 2: with people you actually care about, or in relationships you

1453
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 2: actually want a salvage. I guess you just have to

1454
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:31,320
Speaker 2: ask yourself if your silence is coming from a healthy

1455
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:33,760
Speaker 2: place or not. That's the real question, isn't it.

1456
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:35,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the real question. And some of you big

1457
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:38,639
Speaker 1: you say relationships that you want to salvage, because sometimes

1458
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:39,880
Speaker 1: you might look at you like, you know, if this

1459
01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:41,559
Speaker 1: relationship ain't worth being salvage.

1460
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:43,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, some of these niggas going to the bottom of

1461
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:45,479
Speaker 2: the ocean. Come on, I don't mean that. I didn't

1462
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:47,320
Speaker 2: mean that in a slave way that it sounded. Just

1463
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:50,280
Speaker 2: I just, I just I've been in a ship salvage way.

1464
01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 2: Going with the salvage analogy, guys, not the intercontinental slave trade.

1465
01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:56,240
Speaker 1: They're going to sink that was not the same.

1466
01:11:56,400 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not trying to get my killed mongre own.

1467
01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:00,760
Speaker 2: I just want to clarify because I just as soon

1468
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:02,439
Speaker 2: as it came out, my my father was like, oh no,

1469
01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:06,280
Speaker 2: I know what it means. Set them the balls, rock

1470
01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:11,000
Speaker 2: Star says, and I Hey, Rod and Karen, great episode

1471
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:13,599
Speaker 2: as usual. I voted no because I don't use silence

1472
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:15,360
Speaker 2: as a vege. But if I cut you off, I

1473
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:17,000
Speaker 2: will not have anything to say to you. I have

1474
01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:20,000
Speaker 2: a cousin that disrespects her mother, my grandmother, her own children,

1475
01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:23,559
Speaker 2: and her dog. She's been doing this. She been doing

1476
01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:26,120
Speaker 2: the same thing for years, just making my life life

1477
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 2: for my aunt unbearable. My aunt is a sweet lady

1478
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:31,120
Speaker 2: who should be in process of retire, but she can't

1479
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 2: since she has to help raise four kids that aren't hers.

1480
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:36,120
Speaker 2: I tried to talk to my cousin several times at Novel.

1481
01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:37,720
Speaker 2: The last time I tried to talk to her, that

1482
01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 2: was the before baby three and four, she hit me

1483
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:44,760
Speaker 2: with the Heisman polls Man. I was hot. I wrote

1484
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:47,439
Speaker 2: a ten page single space letter letting her know how

1485
01:12:47,479 --> 01:12:51,280
Speaker 2: to stir disgusting. Disgusted, I was her behavior and reiterated

1486
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:53,599
Speaker 2: to her she wasn't raised this way. The only reason

1487
01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:55,679
Speaker 2: I stopped at ten was because I got tired of writing,

1488
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 2: and I was going to give it to her since

1489
01:12:57,040 --> 01:12:59,640
Speaker 2: she didn't want to talk. But my wife girlfriend at

1490
01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:02,880
Speaker 2: the time, said, no one is going to read ten

1491
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:08,080
Speaker 2: pages or being dragged if it were or you better

1492
01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:10,599
Speaker 2: send at the lipstick alley and leave it at there.

1493
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 2: Ain't nobody reading that but other people that hate that woman.

1494
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:17,560
Speaker 2: If it were me, I would have read it just

1495
01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 2: to see what's so important that ten pages will needed.

1496
01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:22,840
Speaker 2: Let me tell you something. You would think that right,

1497
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:24,960
Speaker 2: and maybe you would rock. So I can't speak for you.

1498
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 2: I won't you write me some long ass ship. If

1499
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:32,240
Speaker 2: it's dragging me, yo, wrap it the fuck up. I

1500
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:34,880
Speaker 2: am busy. I do not have a lot of time.

1501
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:37,040
Speaker 2: Tell me what the problem is in the first paragraph,

1502
01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:39,760
Speaker 2: because I'm not doing that. We've had people right up

1503
01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:43,439
Speaker 2: long ass thing. I'm like, dog, No, I don't even

1504
01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:48,040
Speaker 2: care this much. Okay you should. You shouldn't care more

1505
01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:50,600
Speaker 2: than I care about me. Okay, if you got this

1506
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:55,240
Speaker 2: much time, write a novel, nigga, don't God, but I

1507
01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:58,479
Speaker 2: hate a long winded ass, negative person. No offense to you,

1508
01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 2: and I guess it isn't offense because you didn't send it.

1509
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:03,799
Speaker 2: But yeah, your wife was one hundred percent correct.

1510
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:06,040
Speaker 1: Sometimes you can be frustrated, but I got to get

1511
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:06,320
Speaker 1: it out.

1512
01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:08,400
Speaker 2: So I feel you on that one. Man, you better

1513
01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:10,760
Speaker 2: go out to dinner with your wife and fucking tell

1514
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:13,559
Speaker 2: like rant about that woman all day long.

1515
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 3: But don't don't even waste your time. I'm not even

1516
01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:17,040
Speaker 3: listening to a pot.

1517
01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:20,120
Speaker 2: I knew. I knew it was over for me. I

1518
01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:23,040
Speaker 2: think I hit forty, or maybe it was before forty

1519
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:26,600
Speaker 2: when someone like talked about like I'm talk about you

1520
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:30,400
Speaker 2: on my podcast and I straight up was like okay.

1521
01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:34,360
Speaker 2: They was like, but you know I'm gonna say this that,

1522
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:35,840
Speaker 2: and I said, no, no, no, no, no, you don't

1523
01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:38,519
Speaker 2: have to tell me anything. You don't. I don't care her.

1524
01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:41,200
Speaker 2: I don't care what you say. It just don't matter

1525
01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:45,880
Speaker 2: to me. I like no offense. Like if people give

1526
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:48,800
Speaker 2: a fuck this much about me, then something wrong with them.

1527
01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:52,439
Speaker 2: And if they and if you're lying and they believe it,

1528
01:14:52,680 --> 01:14:54,800
Speaker 2: something wrong with them. And if you're telling the truth,

1529
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:57,240
Speaker 2: I already know the truth. Some board, go do your

1530
01:14:57,280 --> 01:14:57,760
Speaker 2: things play.

1531
01:14:58,080 --> 01:14:59,800
Speaker 1: It's fine like it now.

1532
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:01,479
Speaker 2: And I swear to god, I never listened to that

1533
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:04,120
Speaker 2: episode like he told me that, and I said, and

1534
01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:06,599
Speaker 2: I and it's not even an animosity thing with like nigga,

1535
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:09,879
Speaker 2: I won't be listening. I was like, maybe people.

1536
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:12,679
Speaker 3: Will listen, maybe they won't. I don't have the bandwidth

1537
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:14,320
Speaker 3: to be letting this into my head.

1538
01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:17,280
Speaker 1: Don't have the bandw SO and I and I and

1539
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:19,479
Speaker 1: like and I'm.

1540
01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:22,000
Speaker 3: A person that actually is a good person. There's people that,

1541
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:23,479
Speaker 3: you know, obviously, people.

1542
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:25,680
Speaker 2: That are like fucked up and negative, like you say

1543
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:27,479
Speaker 2: your honest. You know she ain't gonna care.

1544
01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:30,280
Speaker 3: I don't care, and I don't care.

1545
01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:31,800
Speaker 2: To go listen to that shit. And I do care

1546
01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:35,080
Speaker 2: how people perceive me. A motherfucker that's out there dragging

1547
01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:39,280
Speaker 2: her aunt, her dog, her her mother and grandmother, her

1548
01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:40,000
Speaker 2: own children.

1549
01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:42,120
Speaker 3: She definitely ain't listening to ten pages of nothing.

1550
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:44,360
Speaker 1: You know what, You might as well took it and

1551
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:46,679
Speaker 1: put it in this Your wife said you the time

1552
01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:50,320
Speaker 1: for for letting it burn, been like, the fuck is this? Like?

1553
01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:52,320
Speaker 2: You better off just doing some voodoo.

1554
01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:54,560
Speaker 1: Honey, Get you, get you a bottle of wine and

1555
01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:55,400
Speaker 1: drink with your wife.

1556
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:57,600
Speaker 2: Get you a fucking voodoo doll and some pins and

1557
01:15:57,680 --> 01:16:00,760
Speaker 2: go to town because you wating your time. That person

1558
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:03,000
Speaker 2: ain't coming around. From that point on, I figured she

1559
01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:04,600
Speaker 2: wasn't gonna change for the sake out on family. So

1560
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:06,160
Speaker 2: I dropped out like a bad habit. I have no

1561
01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:08,040
Speaker 2: words for her, since I don't have anything nice to

1562
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:10,080
Speaker 2: say to her. I can only say so much when

1563
01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:11,880
Speaker 2: it comes out. She treats my aunt little cousin and

1564
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:14,439
Speaker 2: a dog, but she knows when it comes to my grandmother,

1565
01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 2: we all had the same claim to her. Therefore, my sister, brother, father, mother,

1566
01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:20,400
Speaker 2: and I will get in her ass. It's been three

1567
01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:22,439
Speaker 2: years and I won't look her way. She was hot

1568
01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:24,440
Speaker 2: when our family went on the cruise with my grandmother's

1569
01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:27,800
Speaker 2: for my grandmother's eightieth birthday, and everybody ages fifteen to

1570
01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:30,800
Speaker 2: forty was in the Sweet My Sweet playing party ended

1571
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:33,920
Speaker 2: up each night playing on no bones and space, and

1572
01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:38,000
Speaker 2: she wasn't invited along. Even her brother would leave her

1573
01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:39,439
Speaker 2: when it was time to party.

1574
01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:42,080
Speaker 3: She now has four kids doing the same thing.

1575
01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:43,960
Speaker 2: I have nothing to say to her unless she changes

1576
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:46,040
Speaker 2: her ways and stops being a burden on my aunt.

1577
01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:49,040
Speaker 2: Keep up the great work, you guys. We will rockstar

1578
01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:50,280
Speaker 2: stay strong.

1579
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:53,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, so sometimes it got to be like that. You go, no, nigga,

1580
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:54,519
Speaker 1: don't nobody want to deal with that bullshit?

1581
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:55,160
Speaker 5: Right?

1582
01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:58,760
Speaker 2: People? Man, I'm telling you dog. Like I said, I

1583
01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:01,880
Speaker 2: can see it from botha spaces. Everybody should at this point.

1584
01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:04,840
Speaker 2: Everyone's being ghosted on the internet at this point, if

1585
01:17:04,840 --> 01:17:08,880
Speaker 2: you've been there long enough enough and everybody's been ghosted

1586
01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:11,240
Speaker 2: in their personal lives from a person that doesn't call

1587
01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:13,679
Speaker 2: anymore or something, and then everybody's done it to somebody.

1588
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:16,519
Speaker 3: So you know, it really depends on the reasoning. I

1589
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:18,120
Speaker 3: think every situation is different.

1590
01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:21,759
Speaker 2: But you know, I wouldn't necessarily use silence as revenge,

1591
01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:24,920
Speaker 2: but I definitely will use it as protection. If someone

1592
01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:27,800
Speaker 2: wrote in that email earlier, I mean that comment will

1593
01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:31,320
Speaker 2: all right. Last episode of the week was Medium Popcorn,

1594
01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:34,880
Speaker 2: Move It Talk. We had a couple of comments. Eve says,

1595
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:37,400
Speaker 2: I always love when you guys bring the guys from

1596
01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:38,720
Speaker 2: Medium Popcorn on.

1597
01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:41,560
Speaker 3: I always laugh so hard. Even though Brandon can be

1598
01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:42,160
Speaker 3: a little.

1599
01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:45,200
Speaker 2: Creepy, he's so hilarious A little creepy, think you mean

1600
01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:48,559
Speaker 2: a lot creepy. I love that show. Thanks for putting

1601
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:51,240
Speaker 2: me on. Ps. I said what I said about Himsworth,

1602
01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:53,840
Speaker 2: he is the least talented of the Christis fight me.

1603
01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:56,760
Speaker 2: First of all, Eve, I'm not gonna fight you because

1604
01:17:56,760 --> 01:17:58,799
Speaker 2: you seem like the type to carry some type of weapon.

1605
01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:03,760
Speaker 2: But second of all, you just as wrong about this

1606
01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:08,960
Speaker 2: as you are about sugar grits. I imagine trace wind

1607
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:12,360
Speaker 2: do seventy forty four says seven forty four says thanks

1608
01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:15,679
Speaker 2: for giving us another great one. All up in your face, Rod,

1609
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:18,280
Speaker 2: Caaren and Brandon and Justin from Medium Popcorn love all

1610
01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:23,960
Speaker 2: y'all goofy asses lol, Thanks Trey. And then the poll was,

1611
01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:28,519
Speaker 2: has twenty nineteen been a good year for movies to you?

1612
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:29,200
Speaker 2: Yes or no?

1613
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:41,080
Speaker 1: Yes, because they have been bad, people agree with you.

1614
01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:44,600
Speaker 3: Yes, I also think it's been a good year just

1615
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 3: for some reason.

1616
01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:47,600
Speaker 2: We respect so much perfection, and we're also in the

1617
01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:49,880
Speaker 2: law right now, so it's hard for people to see

1618
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:52,320
Speaker 2: past it. But nigga, we got Captain Marvel this year,

1619
01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:56,840
Speaker 2: John Wick three this year, The Avengers. Yeah in game,

1620
01:18:57,040 --> 01:19:02,479
Speaker 2: we're getting Spider Man Star Wars. Yeah, like yeah, I

1621
01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:04,040
Speaker 2: don't know what the fuck people are talking about this

1622
01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:06,360
Speaker 2: bad year. Shit, We're just in a three week long

1623
01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:09,599
Speaker 2: because everybody throwing their shitty movies out before Marvel come

1624
01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 2: right back and bust up them buildings. Brooklyn Shoe Bay says,

1625
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:15,720
Speaker 2: I see a lot of movies because I know the

1626
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:18,160
Speaker 2: theater experience, but so I love the theater experience. But

1627
01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 2: so far this year has been a really blind year.

1628
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:24,240
Speaker 2: Except for Avengers, John Wick, Rocketman, and Captain Marvel, this

1629
01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:27,840
Speaker 2: summer had I mean, that's for good movies. It's Jim okay,

1630
01:19:28,439 --> 01:19:29,479
Speaker 2: I guess you didn't like us.

1631
01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:32,200
Speaker 3: Uh, This summer has turned out pretty full.

1632
01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:35,040
Speaker 2: Although I originally wanted to see Shaft Men in Black,

1633
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:37,439
Speaker 2: but I was turned off our reviews. Now just waiting

1634
01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:39,960
Speaker 2: for Spider Man Far from Home and Will Smith's Gemini Man.

1635
01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:42,120
Speaker 2: Maybe I was just too hype for in game, so

1636
01:19:42,160 --> 01:19:47,000
Speaker 2: everything pales in comparison. That's a great point. Yeah, I could.

1637
01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:47,640
Speaker 2: I could see that.

1638
01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:50,880
Speaker 3: I could see that, like Endgame was the major tent

1639
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:53,960
Speaker 3: pole event and everything.

1640
01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:58,360
Speaker 2: After that it ain't in game. Like it's good. Even

1641
01:19:58,400 --> 01:20:00,240
Speaker 2: if it's good, it ain't in game, you know what

1642
01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:06,600
Speaker 2: I mean? Love Captain Marble Allego says, including Netflix in

1643
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:09,360
Speaker 2: the mix makes movie watching so good this year. Thus far,

1644
01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 2: US was amazing, and I love John Wick, three Listen

1645
01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:15,880
Speaker 2: that Abducted and Playing Psyche, though my husban couldn't finish

1646
01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:17,880
Speaker 2: watching that documentary because he got too pissed off at

1647
01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:21,320
Speaker 2: the stupidity y'all. It's really like a test.

1648
01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:24,200
Speaker 1: Right the whole time you're like, what, oh, okay, okay,

1649
01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:25,519
Speaker 1: what it's like as.

1650
01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:25,920
Speaker 3: It goes on?

1651
01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:26,840
Speaker 1: Yo?

1652
01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:28,479
Speaker 2: What it kind of you out?

1653
01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:30,560
Speaker 1: You don't go into a panic moment. You're gonna like,

1654
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:32,439
Speaker 1: I can't play this. It's almost like you want to

1655
01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:35,320
Speaker 1: call or it's like if you with somebody, you can

1656
01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:37,040
Speaker 1: look at them going, you're watching the same shit. Don't

1657
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:38,680
Speaker 1: watch it right because if you buy yourself, you think

1658
01:20:38,720 --> 01:20:39,160
Speaker 1: you're losing it.

1659
01:20:39,240 --> 01:20:42,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, they should have called it what the hell? Because uh,

1660
01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:44,600
Speaker 2: that's that's really what you's gonna say to yourself.

1661
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:44,760
Speaker 1: All the time.

1662
01:20:44,880 --> 01:20:48,320
Speaker 2: The whole movie is what the hell. We also got

1663
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:51,040
Speaker 2: a couple of voicemails throughout the week. Seven or four

1664
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:54,040
Speaker 2: five five, seven zero one eighty six is the voicemail line,

1665
01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:56,519
Speaker 2: And just make sure it's two minutes or less because

1666
01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:58,639
Speaker 2: it will cut your ass off and it don't give

1667
01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:00,679
Speaker 2: a fuck about who you are, what you're talking about.

1668
01:21:02,240 --> 01:21:05,120
Speaker 5: This is I'm starting from Twitter. I was calling to

1669
01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:06,840
Speaker 5: give you a little bit more context about the whole

1670
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:10,400
Speaker 5: Uvus place thing. So it's way deeper than that one

1671
01:21:10,479 --> 01:21:15,720
Speaker 5: Jeffery incident. So apparently, if for me I'm in the makeup.

1672
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:17,400
Speaker 4: All in that, so i know what's going on.

1673
01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:21,080
Speaker 5: So Julius Places had a horrible track record when it

1674
01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:23,439
Speaker 5: comes to customer service, how they talk to their customers

1675
01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:25,479
Speaker 5: and whatnot. But it goes even farther back with like

1676
01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 5: Jackie Anna and a couple other black YouTubers. So they

1677
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:32,599
Speaker 5: started off trying to get the black YouTubers, but then

1678
01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:36,639
Speaker 5: white YouTubers started giving them attention and whatnot because they.

1679
01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:39,120
Speaker 4: Have some really great products. Their eye shadows are like bomb,

1680
01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:43,280
Speaker 4: they have some new foundations. So they dropped one of

1681
01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:43,879
Speaker 4: the black.

1682
01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:45,960
Speaker 5: YouTubers that was really big at the time and was

1683
01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:50,439
Speaker 5: very influential. They dropped her, went to the white YouTuber,

1684
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:52,960
Speaker 5: and they literally dropped a lot of the black YouTubers

1685
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:55,400
Speaker 5: that they were working with. And then once they came

1686
01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:58,280
Speaker 5: out with Complexion products Foundations, which is their new push

1687
01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:00,479
Speaker 5: right now, now they're trying to get the other black

1688
01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:02,640
Speaker 5: YouTubers back on board, and so that's what made them

1689
01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:03,720
Speaker 5: start talking even more.

1690
01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:06,280
Speaker 2: Okay, every Star was just it came.

1691
01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:10,719
Speaker 5: Out simultaneously while all this was going online. So Jackie

1692
01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:13,639
Speaker 5: and it's not upset about that one thing and her

1693
01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:15,719
Speaker 5: they've been going back and forth so it's a whole

1694
01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:17,320
Speaker 5: long running thing on Twitter.

1695
01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:18,000
Speaker 2: You have to read it.

1696
01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:21,000
Speaker 5: It's wrong, best if you choose to. But just wanted

1697
01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:23,120
Speaker 5: to give you some context to tell you what's going on.

1698
01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:25,479
Speaker 5: And so it's a lot of bad blood going on.

1699
01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:28,280
Speaker 5: It's not just that one incident. Love y'all have a

1700
01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:30,320
Speaker 5: great assi Bye.

1701
01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:33,360
Speaker 1: Bye bye baby, and and and that makes sense. So

1702
01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:37,360
Speaker 1: basically you, I am disgusting.

1703
01:22:39,160 --> 01:22:40,240
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I can't go ahead.

1704
01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:43,800
Speaker 1: Oh I am disgusted to since and since since. And

1705
01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:47,479
Speaker 1: you know, the more you know, the better. Uh, We're

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01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:50,240
Speaker 1: allowed to evolve and change as we get more information, because,

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01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:52,439
Speaker 1: like I said, we're not in the makeup industry. I

1708
01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:54,720
Speaker 1: don't I don't even know the name of the stores. Well,

1709
01:22:54,720 --> 01:22:56,880
Speaker 1: I bought my fency products, y'all know, I don't know

1710
01:22:56,920 --> 01:22:58,679
Speaker 1: what goddamn you know, it's.

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01:22:58,520 --> 01:23:00,960
Speaker 2: Not I don't think we said anythink too bad when

1712
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:03,040
Speaker 2: we talked about it here. I mean, we can pretty

1713
01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:04,280
Speaker 2: much covered what we had.

1714
01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:07,120
Speaker 1: So it's you know, but I'm glad people are kind

1715
01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:08,559
Speaker 1: of giving us extra information.

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01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:12,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I mean on the outside looking in to me,

1717
01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:16,160
Speaker 2: it was just like they fucked up. They apologized people

1718
01:23:16,240 --> 01:23:19,360
Speaker 2: not accepting it, they must have did something, all right, uh,

1719
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:23,679
Speaker 2: And obviously just the idea of even retweeting that racist

1720
01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:25,920
Speaker 2: to me, that's the part I can't get over. I

1721
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:28,160
Speaker 2: know that there's more to the story all that, and

1722
01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:32,680
Speaker 2: I appreciate the context, but just by itself, like if

1723
01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:36,479
Speaker 2: Shaye Moisture did that, if fucking Finky did that, if

1724
01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:39,320
Speaker 2: anyone does that, you have to be like, don't you

1725
01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:41,519
Speaker 2: wait a minute, do you not know who he is?

1726
01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:43,800
Speaker 2: I don't know nothing about makeup, and I know that

1727
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:44,519
Speaker 2: nigga racis.

1728
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:47,040
Speaker 1: Come on now, yeah, if I know who he is

1729
01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:48,800
Speaker 1: and I don't know nothing about makeup, you know makeup?

1730
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:49,920
Speaker 1: People know who the hell is the.

1731
01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:54,560
Speaker 2: Game you from? Okay, that's your hood. But yeah, I

1732
01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:56,960
Speaker 2: thank you for writing it and clarified. It's exactly what

1733
01:23:57,080 --> 01:24:00,160
Speaker 2: I thought the whole time. Black women just crazy hell

1734
01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:02,559
Speaker 2: and don't want to see another black woman succeed. Think

1735
01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:03,240
Speaker 2: we got to the.

1736
01:24:03,240 --> 01:24:08,880
Speaker 1: Bottom of it, y'all? No, huh, you said right then?

1737
01:24:09,200 --> 01:24:09,560
Speaker 1: Call in?

1738
01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:14,400
Speaker 2: No, I meant writing the Okay, I used the dictation

1739
01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:17,000
Speaker 2: thing for sirih Karen. A lot of people don't know that.

1740
01:24:17,200 --> 01:24:19,200
Speaker 2: Oh no, she didn't care and I just made that up.

1741
01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:22,240
Speaker 1: Come on, now, what Simmy could do a lot of ship,

1742
01:24:22,360 --> 01:24:23,080
Speaker 1: so I don't know.

1743
01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:25,400
Speaker 2: I thought I was the gullor boy mm mmmm.

1744
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:28,240
Speaker 1: I don't know what the hell diver being able to

1745
01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:31,080
Speaker 1: do nowadays, So I don't you know, I don't care.

1746
01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:35,360
Speaker 4: I hope you guys are having a great kids. I'm

1747
01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:39,120
Speaker 4: just calling to say I finally got to listen to

1748
01:24:39,320 --> 01:24:44,040
Speaker 4: the Medium talk with Brandon Keith Brown, Professor Brown, and

1749
01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:46,160
Speaker 4: I just wanted to say that I really really enjoyed it.

1750
01:24:46,240 --> 01:24:49,280
Speaker 4: I listened to it twice. It just gave me such

1751
01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:52,120
Speaker 4: a good feeling, even though what happened to him was

1752
01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:57,479
Speaker 4: absolutely horrible, but you know, just your conversation and just

1753
01:24:57,560 --> 01:24:59,880
Speaker 4: how excited you want to talk about it, and how

1754
01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:02,960
Speaker 4: someone who you know could be empathetic and just like

1755
01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:05,880
Speaker 4: have an understanding of what he was going through and

1756
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:09,120
Speaker 4: what he went through. It was just really a great conversation.

1757
01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:13,679
Speaker 4: I really really just loved it, and I just loved him.

1758
01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:16,360
Speaker 4: But he was just so such a great person to interview.

1759
01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:20,280
Speaker 4: Just you know, there was just like a great slow

1760
01:25:20,439 --> 01:25:22,720
Speaker 4: to the conversations. Every time you do meet and talk,

1761
01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:26,680
Speaker 4: you know, just shows the showcases how great an interviewing you.

1762
01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:30,960
Speaker 4: But I really enjoyed this one. I love the way

1763
01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:34,920
Speaker 4: he said your name. He's like Rod, and I just

1764
01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:39,600
Speaker 4: loved it. I was like, you sounds so fancy. I

1765
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:42,800
Speaker 4: just wanted to say that. It just gave me, like

1766
01:25:43,200 --> 01:25:48,320
Speaker 4: maybe drum up so many memories of my time at HBCU,

1767
01:25:48,640 --> 01:25:53,960
Speaker 4: you know, attending, matriculating through graduating with on from Alahama

1768
01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:57,760
Speaker 4: State University, and there's just like, you know, there are

1769
01:25:57,800 --> 01:26:00,559
Speaker 4: so many people of so many lots of life to attend,

1770
01:26:02,479 --> 01:26:04,840
Speaker 4: and just just made me remember all of that, like

1771
01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:08,680
Speaker 4: that I went to class for people who were like him,

1772
01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:13,519
Speaker 4: you know, just really passionate and well spoken and just

1773
01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:17,360
Speaker 4: knowledgeable about their feel and he reminded me of some

1774
01:26:17,439 --> 01:26:18,639
Speaker 4: of the professors that I had.

1775
01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:20,000
Speaker 2: But I just really liked it.

1776
01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:24,559
Speaker 4: That is one to tell you guys that, So hope

1777
01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:25,879
Speaker 4: you do the rest new weekends.

1778
01:26:26,240 --> 01:26:30,559
Speaker 2: Love you say thank you, Ama, thank you, And I'm

1779
01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:32,280
Speaker 2: glad you enjoyed it. And yeah, he was a great

1780
01:26:32,320 --> 01:26:34,920
Speaker 2: guest and uh, yeah it was funny. He's Rod all

1781
01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:38,320
Speaker 2: the time. Yeah, all right, emails, see if we can

1782
01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:41,559
Speaker 2: finish this out. Uh we got a five star review

1783
01:26:41,640 --> 01:26:43,519
Speaker 2: from Belgium. That's right.

1784
01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:45,360
Speaker 3: I had secret five star reviews on y'all.

1785
01:26:45,439 --> 01:26:48,680
Speaker 2: Niggs y'all didn't even know about. I didn't nothing but

1786
01:26:48,840 --> 01:26:51,160
Speaker 2: love five Stars Roder Care are the best thing I've

1787
01:26:51,160 --> 01:26:53,519
Speaker 2: discovered since I recently started listening to podcasts that are

1788
01:26:53,560 --> 01:26:55,960
Speaker 2: funny as hell, sharp and they tackle topics in a

1789
01:26:56,040 --> 01:26:59,200
Speaker 2: profound way. I've learned a lot while listening. I love

1790
01:26:59,320 --> 01:27:01,560
Speaker 2: their honesty and their obvious love and respect they have

1791
01:27:01,720 --> 01:27:04,679
Speaker 2: for each other, their listeners, and their community living while

1792
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:08,800
Speaker 2: black in Europe Belgium. The conversations between Rod and Karen

1793
01:27:09,080 --> 01:27:11,439
Speaker 2: off off the influence my writing and my views on

1794
01:27:11,560 --> 01:27:12,840
Speaker 2: things are happening in the world.

1795
01:27:13,479 --> 01:27:16,880
Speaker 3: Wow, thank you right. I also love their recurring games

1796
01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:17,120
Speaker 3: and the.

1797
01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:22,160
Speaker 2: Rap intros thank you and yeah, man, you know, we

1798
01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:23,960
Speaker 2: do try to have love and respect for each other

1799
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:27,200
Speaker 2: and stuff. Today was at the banking, this woman was like,

1800
01:27:27,920 --> 01:27:31,559
Speaker 2: how long y'all been married? And I was like, uh,

1801
01:27:31,960 --> 01:27:34,760
Speaker 2: you know. Of course Karen didn't though. I was like, yeah,

1802
01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:37,040
Speaker 2: I'm not good, Yeah, I'm terrible. I was like September

1803
01:27:37,040 --> 01:27:39,439
Speaker 2: two thousand and one, so like eighteen years almost. And

1804
01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:42,519
Speaker 2: she was like wow, because I'll thought you I was

1805
01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:45,040
Speaker 2: newly weds. I was like, oh, that's so nice.

1806
01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:48,400
Speaker 3: And then Karen didn't understand she just started.

1807
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:51,720
Speaker 2: About time or so. I can't remember what Karen said,

1808
01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:53,320
Speaker 2: but that one was like no, I was saying, it's

1809
01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:56,280
Speaker 2: a compliment. She's like okay. I was like, oh, Karen,

1810
01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:58,800
Speaker 2: just like talking. Don't just don't ignore me.

1811
01:27:59,000 --> 01:27:59,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, ignore me.

1812
01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:01,400
Speaker 2: Continued doing your work because I.

1813
01:28:01,400 --> 01:28:03,080
Speaker 1: Was asking a bunch of questions. So I was like, well,

1814
01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:05,480
Speaker 1: maybe she asked that because I was asking all these questions.

1815
01:28:05,200 --> 01:28:07,920
Speaker 2: And that's why depending card on my new deything do work.

1816
01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:12,680
Speaker 2: Karen just couldn't stop talking. She just had to talk

1817
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:13,040
Speaker 2: to us.

1818
01:28:14,479 --> 01:28:16,320
Speaker 3: Mick Chicken rage, could that coordinator?

1819
01:28:16,360 --> 01:28:19,080
Speaker 2: Says man listen as a Blackoutist fan, a Curb your

1820
01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:21,639
Speaker 2: Enthusiasm fan, I lost it when you played the theme

1821
01:28:21,720 --> 01:28:25,240
Speaker 2: music the Curb after telling that messy ass story, like

1822
01:28:25,400 --> 01:28:27,760
Speaker 2: literally lost control of my truck. I had to pull over.

1823
01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:30,720
Speaker 2: Oh no, laughed my ass off. I'm okay with y'all.

1824
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:32,560
Speaker 2: Are dangerous? Respect I don't know.

1825
01:28:32,720 --> 01:28:33,120
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.

1826
01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:34,400
Speaker 2: I'm not trying put nobody in danger.

1827
01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:34,600
Speaker 1: No.

1828
01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:38,240
Speaker 2: Oh man, if you're a premium person and you might

1829
01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:44,960
Speaker 2: enjoy UH the latest uh pregame episode called Barry David.

1830
01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:49,120
Speaker 2: If if you love Curve, you'll love that episode. Yeah,

1831
01:28:49,240 --> 01:28:52,960
Speaker 2: you're not premium. I'm sorry. Uh, let's see. We did

1832
01:28:53,080 --> 01:29:00,360
Speaker 2: also get an interview review from India. It's very old,

1833
01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:02,880
Speaker 2: by the way, we just never saw it before. Great show,

1834
01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:05,040
Speaker 2: five stars, how roder Karen New listen to your show,

1835
01:29:05,080 --> 01:29:07,840
Speaker 2: beloving it so far. This is from Defying Yellow in India.

1836
01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:10,880
Speaker 2: That was all the way back in twenty eleven, but

1837
01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:13,200
Speaker 2: I just only saw it for the first time. Obviously.

1838
01:29:14,479 --> 01:29:22,400
Speaker 2: This this week, Shun right saying Julia's makeup from Silence

1839
01:29:22,520 --> 01:29:26,360
Speaker 2: is the best revenge episode the this okay, Shun don't

1840
01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:29,120
Speaker 2: be mad at me. Okay, but I read this email

1841
01:29:29,240 --> 01:29:31,800
Speaker 2: and I'm sorry what I gotta say. But so they

1842
01:29:31,880 --> 01:29:35,040
Speaker 2: attached to YouTube video and it says this eleven minute

1843
01:29:35,080 --> 01:29:37,960
Speaker 2: video might help you understand why Julius is seen as

1844
01:29:37,960 --> 01:29:40,360
Speaker 2: a black brand. It doesn't value black people. As a

1845
01:29:40,400 --> 01:29:44,360
Speaker 2: fan of jackieyan Aina, I can tell you that I've

1846
01:29:44,439 --> 01:29:46,400
Speaker 2: always seen her standing up for the quality of US

1847
01:29:46,479 --> 01:29:50,000
Speaker 2: black women. Her father's not Jeerings, So her criticism of

1848
01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:52,680
Speaker 2: Juvius has nothing to do with cultural difference. Julius has

1849
01:29:52,720 --> 01:29:56,439
Speaker 2: always intentionally valued white makeup influences over black, and Florence's

1850
01:29:56,479 --> 01:29:59,040
Speaker 2: black influences were first to promote Juvia's brand for free,

1851
01:29:59,320 --> 01:30:02,400
Speaker 2: but the company would send free packages and new products

1852
01:30:02,479 --> 01:30:05,719
Speaker 2: only the white or influencers. But it was the reviews

1853
01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:09,240
Speaker 2: from black influences that made Julia's popular, but those influencers

1854
01:30:09,280 --> 01:30:11,320
Speaker 2: had to ask to be treated the same as white influencers,

1855
01:30:11,400 --> 01:30:14,840
Speaker 2: only to have Julia's reject their requests. Yeah, so what

1856
01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:16,280
Speaker 2: I was gonna say you might not like to hear.

1857
01:30:16,320 --> 01:30:18,200
Speaker 2: And I'm sorry about this. I'm not watching the eleven

1858
01:30:18,200 --> 01:30:18,720
Speaker 2: minute video.

1859
01:30:19,320 --> 01:30:20,760
Speaker 1: Yeah none personal, baby.

1860
01:30:20,680 --> 01:30:21,320
Speaker 2: None personal.

1861
01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:24,960
Speaker 3: Totally believe everything. Just said, not watching the eleven minute video.

1862
01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:30,160
Speaker 2: Don't care that much. Sorry, and I respect you, but

1863
01:30:30,560 --> 01:30:34,000
Speaker 2: and I'm on your side. Yeah, I'm already at Juvia's place.

1864
01:30:34,080 --> 01:30:35,800
Speaker 2: We don't even have to get in the car and drive.

1865
01:30:35,880 --> 01:30:38,320
Speaker 2: You never bought a product, Okay, I've been. I'm staying

1866
01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:41,080
Speaker 2: with you. Just learned about it this week, right, so

1867
01:30:41,479 --> 01:30:44,400
Speaker 2: please understand is own right?

1868
01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:45,160
Speaker 4: Uh?

1869
01:30:45,560 --> 01:30:48,920
Speaker 2: Toy Wright saying, Hey, Rod and Karen, Yes, the band

1870
01:30:48,960 --> 01:30:51,519
Speaker 2: of Cruise Shuster Cuba is still going on. Unfortunately, my

1871
01:30:51,720 --> 01:30:54,920
Speaker 2: boyfriend and I are going on our first vacation this December,

1872
01:30:55,040 --> 01:30:57,400
Speaker 2: and everyone told us that cruisers are so great. We

1873
01:30:57,520 --> 01:31:00,679
Speaker 2: were so excited when we went uh on the carnival

1874
01:31:00,720 --> 01:31:02,960
Speaker 2: website three months ago and saw that we could visit Cuba.

1875
01:31:03,320 --> 01:31:05,639
Speaker 2: My boyfriend is a cigar enthusiast, and I was gonna

1876
01:31:05,680 --> 01:31:12,320
Speaker 2: try to find a sider where Trump pull up. I

1877
01:31:12,400 --> 01:31:14,680
Speaker 2: wonder if black people just go to Cuba looking for, like, well,

1878
01:31:14,800 --> 01:31:16,360
Speaker 2: start a live I just want to come out and

1879
01:31:16,439 --> 01:31:19,960
Speaker 2: thank her. When Trump put up the band for tourism

1880
01:31:20,040 --> 01:31:23,080
Speaker 2: travel to Cuba, it put all the cruise lines in

1881
01:31:23,160 --> 01:31:23,519
Speaker 2: the panic.

1882
01:31:23,600 --> 01:31:25,880
Speaker 3: Of course, I was hoping that it would be temporary thing.

1883
01:31:26,200 --> 01:31:28,599
Speaker 2: We know Trump has hissy fishing backs out. Shortly after

1884
01:31:28,760 --> 01:31:31,600
Speaker 2: I eat that stupid ass Muslim band and Muslim registry.

1885
01:31:31,640 --> 01:31:35,920
Speaker 3: My boyfriend and I decided to I assume.

1886
01:31:35,680 --> 01:31:37,640
Speaker 2: This BF his boyfriend. Maybe it means best friend, but

1887
01:31:37,640 --> 01:31:39,720
Speaker 2: I'm a save boyfriend. I'm sorry I from messing up,

1888
01:31:40,280 --> 01:31:42,160
Speaker 2: and I decided to just wait it out and see

1889
01:31:42,160 --> 01:31:44,320
Speaker 2: if he would change his mind. Oh well, it's definitely boyfriend,

1890
01:31:44,400 --> 01:31:47,719
Speaker 2: she said, vacation changed his mind and he would still

1891
01:31:47,800 --> 01:31:50,920
Speaker 2: get to go. We got an email three days later

1892
01:31:50,960 --> 01:31:54,479
Speaker 2: after saying Cuba was canceled and they gave us another options.

1893
01:31:54,640 --> 01:31:56,680
Speaker 3: We chose to reroute, but we'll find a way to

1894
01:31:56,720 --> 01:31:57,719
Speaker 3: get to Cuba eventually.

1895
01:31:58,880 --> 01:32:00,679
Speaker 2: I mean, you can always go to the Republic.

1896
01:32:02,120 --> 01:32:03,519
Speaker 1: I don't think you want to go there. You can fly,

1897
01:32:03,800 --> 01:32:04,960
Speaker 1: but flying cost a little bit more.

1898
01:32:05,880 --> 01:32:09,360
Speaker 2: Medic Republic. I heard it's cheap right now. It's dirt cheap.

1899
01:32:09,560 --> 01:32:12,280
Speaker 2: They pay you to go at this point. So you know,

1900
01:32:12,560 --> 01:32:16,040
Speaker 2: if you it's so cheap, if you're ready to risk

1901
01:32:16,080 --> 01:32:18,520
Speaker 2: it all, you know. I heard they got some dangerously

1902
01:32:18,600 --> 01:32:22,720
Speaker 2: low deals going there. So the backstory, apparently the US

1903
01:32:22,800 --> 01:32:24,800
Speaker 2: government wants to cut the amount of money that Cuba

1904
01:32:24,920 --> 01:32:27,120
Speaker 2: is making from its tourism because Cuba has been funding

1905
01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:29,760
Speaker 2: some of the government ship storm that is going on

1906
01:32:29,960 --> 01:32:34,760
Speaker 2: in Venezuela and not Nicaragua. While I know that what

1907
01:32:34,920 --> 01:32:36,840
Speaker 2: Cuba is doing is definitely wrong because a lot of

1908
01:32:36,880 --> 01:32:39,559
Speaker 2: people are dying, It's definitely a situation of the pot

1909
01:32:39,640 --> 01:32:42,639
Speaker 2: calling kettle black, right, Like, the US ain't really got

1910
01:32:43,360 --> 01:32:46,919
Speaker 2: no room to stand on. I can't believe you interfering

1911
01:32:46,960 --> 01:32:49,880
Speaker 2: in other people countries? What uh?

1912
01:32:50,760 --> 01:32:53,559
Speaker 3: I can't believe you interfering in other people countries.

1913
01:32:54,120 --> 01:32:54,400
Speaker 2: That's it.

1914
01:32:54,520 --> 01:32:57,719
Speaker 3: We cutting off tourism and interfering in your country.

1915
01:32:58,640 --> 01:33:01,320
Speaker 2: Uh ah, we got some nerve.

1916
01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:08,880
Speaker 1: Oh my god, spider Man, Spider.

1917
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Speaker 2: Man, spider can yeah. So yeah, Uh, the US to

1918
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Speaker 2: this day is using money to take down foreign governments

1919
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Speaker 2: and put puppet governments in their place. They calling it

1920
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Speaker 2: spreading freedom and democracy in the Middle East and some

1921
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Speaker 2: parts of Africa. Ain't that some bullshit love toy? Yep, yes,

1922
01:33:28,920 --> 01:33:32,960
Speaker 2: yes it is. And of course, uh, you know Iran

1923
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Speaker 2: is like it's about to go down with them. We

1924
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Speaker 2: stay fucking with somebody. Yeah, gonna go up? Uh nerd

1925
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Speaker 2: Geek Ninja our girl Aman has the final email says, Hey,

1926
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Speaker 2: Rod and Karen, it's a mine again. Just something that's

1927
01:33:46,720 --> 01:33:48,600
Speaker 2: been nagging me and I was grabbing little whether to

1928
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Speaker 2: say thing or not. But just like Brandon K. Brown,

1929
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Speaker 2: I am passionate about music. I'm really passionate. It's passionate

1930
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Speaker 2: about music. I'm really passionate about art. I didn't get

1931
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Speaker 2: this degree for nothing, even though some days it feels

1932
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Speaker 2: like it smile upside down face. Vincent van Gold didn't

1933
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Speaker 2: paint the scream. It was Edward Munch. Okay. I know

1934
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Speaker 2: it doesn't matter to a lot of people. Yeah, it

1935
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Speaker 2: definitely don't matter me as a you know, as a black.

1936
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Speaker 2: My thighs on artists so terrible. Man, I'm not even

1937
01:34:23,320 --> 01:34:25,400
Speaker 2: gonna fret them again. I've said it before on the show.

1938
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Speaker 2: I poisoned well enough. It just pains by dead old

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Speaker 2: white man.

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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 2: I just know I wouldn't want my artwork to be

1942
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Speaker 2: attributed to some other niggas well. He did. Now we

1943
01:34:36,920 --> 01:34:39,800
Speaker 2: can take it. I always get anxious about correct the

1944
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Speaker 2: people about stuff. I hope y'all have great weekend. Still

1945
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Speaker 2: really enjoyed the meal talk so far, my favorite one.

1946
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Speaker 2: I love y'all.

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Speaker 1: Man, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know what, man, there's nothing wrong with

1949
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Speaker 2: a little gentle correction. It's like you said, you stupid motherfuckers.

1950
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Speaker 1: I am small dumb asses. I got the degree in

1951
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Speaker 1: the field, right. You didn't do none of that, baby, Yeah.

1952
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Speaker 3: Like, and honestly, we don't want to be off point.

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Speaker 3: We don't want to be wrong.

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Speaker 2: And I'm sure you know, Keith would probably be like, yeah,

1955
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Speaker 2: I don't you know, I didn't either. I didn't know

1956
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Speaker 2: that or I knew that and I just said the

1957
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Speaker 2: wrong name. Shit happens, man. It's totally fine and innocuous

1958
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Speaker 2: and we should be good to go. All right, that's

1959
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Speaker 2: it for today. We should be back tomorrow and I

1960
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Speaker 2: haven't confirmed it yet, but I'm thinking about taking the

1961
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Speaker 2: first week of July off for July fourth and once

1962
01:35:26,640 --> 01:35:29,000
Speaker 2: again just taking you know, trying to cut back on

1963
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Speaker 2: some of this stuff. So we'll see how that works.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, thank you for everybody that listens. We appreciate

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Speaker 2: you all. And until tomorrow, I love you. I love

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Speaker 2: you too,