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Speaker 1: This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft show. Cowboys

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Speaker 1: on our war room for in center news and draft

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Speaker 1: analysis from deep within the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at

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Speaker 1: the Star in Fresco, Dallas Cowboys Select Elliot and now

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Speaker 1: your hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman, and Brian brought us well.

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Speaker 1: Twenty one days from now, we're gonna get to participate

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Speaker 1: in an NFL draft, and I'll welcome everybody in. Brian

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Speaker 1: brought us along with Dane Brugler, CBS Sports, David Hellman

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Speaker 1: from Dallas Cowboys dot Com, Kent Garrison, Executive producer, twenty

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Speaker 1: one days Boys. We talked about it yesterday a little bit,

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Speaker 1: a little bit, one more day closer. We do keep

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Speaker 1: doing these shows every day. We'll eventually get there. Weeks,

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Speaker 1: three weeks, three weeks. April has gotta be at least

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Speaker 1: for me, it's the best sports month of the year. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Your tribes just beating up on our rangers. I don't

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Speaker 1: want to bring that up. Go away about that. As

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Speaker 1: the Mariner man, he's oo and three two over here.

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Speaker 1: We've got the Master's going on right now, got the

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Speaker 1: Master's going on. Yeah, it's it's just a great month,

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Speaker 1: a lot going on. So three weeks hard to believe. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it is hard to believe. We started this what over

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Speaker 1: three months ago? Yeah, right before they right before the

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Speaker 1: Senior Bowl January twentieth, probably something like that, something like that.

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Speaker 1: I abviously lose track of days. I just know it's

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Speaker 1: three weeks till the draft. I'm excited about that. Wanted

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Speaker 1: before we get going at well, today, we're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: a little bit about clean up some Pro day stuff

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Speaker 1: I want to do that we had LSU and Baylor

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Speaker 1: schools pro Days. We got these thirty visits that are

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Speaker 1: going on right now here at the Star. I also

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Speaker 1: want to get into I'm gonna try and get you

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Speaker 1: guys to go up or back in this draft. Okay,

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Speaker 1: throw some numbers out there at you and see if

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Speaker 1: you're interested in doing that. Back sure, up? No, Well,

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Speaker 1: we'll see if we can make you change your mind.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna make you go too terribly far. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna make you go a few picks just to

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Speaker 1: kind of see if you're interested in And I'll have

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Speaker 1: Tony Romo as a bargaining Chimpaney. Now you don't, but

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Speaker 1: we'll do that. We're gonna get into a little twitter

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Speaker 1: on the twenty, which we encourage everybody to get their

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Speaker 1: questions in. At the draft show, David Hellman will carry that.

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Speaker 1: That's one of my favorite things we do because it's

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Speaker 1: the interaction with the fans. That's really what this is

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Speaker 1: all about, the interaction that we can have with you.

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Speaker 1: We always talk about investigate and educate. That's that will

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Speaker 1: always be our motto, and so I want to be

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Speaker 1: able to answer as many questions as we can. We'll

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Speaker 1: also get into tell me more five players that you

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Speaker 1: might not know much about, but Dan Burglar myself will

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Speaker 1: try and educate you on those guys as well. So

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Speaker 1: Dan clean up the pro day now, we had some

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Speaker 1: talk about that. Adams the safety from LSU ran in

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Speaker 1: the four or threes. I got some confirmation from my

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Speaker 1: guys I talked to there had them mid four four.

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Speaker 1: So regardless, good times, good times, especially an improvement from

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Speaker 1: the combine, and he did exactly what you expect, and

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Speaker 1: this is what teams expected of Tease Tabor. You know,

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Speaker 1: you run a pedestrian time with the combine. Sometimes that happens,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's the combine is a nerve wrecking racking

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Speaker 1: to Jamal Adams credit, he said, that's not what I

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Speaker 1: he got better, and it showed estraight during the pro day.

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Speaker 1: So he did exactly what scouts want to see. You

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Speaker 1: see that improvement in the drills. And that's the only

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Speaker 1: Surprised that four net. You know he ran the four.

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Speaker 1: All it does is create questions, Now, is this going

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Speaker 1: to cause him to free fall down boards? No, but

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Speaker 1: Albert Brewer from the NFL, it's not NFL networking Wris

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Speaker 1: with Peter King's group, I'm not mistaken. Monday Morning quarterback

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Speaker 1: on a tweet last night late was talking about that

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Speaker 1: sure Albert's got some really good sources, but you talk

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Speaker 1: McCaffrey's sure not going to be your workhorse running backs,

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Speaker 1: got to watch Philly twice last year. Don't you think

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Speaker 1: that they need more Not that he's a great player,

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Speaker 1: but like they need somebody more than a gad gadget back.

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Speaker 1: Is disrespectful to how good he is. But a guy

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Speaker 1: Philly right now. I mean he's that type of versus

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Speaker 1: I said, you have to be an open, open minded

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Speaker 1: play caller or a guy like this. So not he's

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Speaker 1: not gonna fit everyone, but for the right fit to

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Speaker 1: if I can. Yeah, of course you know that. You

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Speaker 1: know the Saints pretty well, Oh my god, he would

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Speaker 1: be And this is what Sean Payton if you get

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Speaker 1: if you look at what happened with the Saints when

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Speaker 1: they let Sprowles walk, you know, I mean they had

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Speaker 1: six Yeah, is this Sean? You know? Is this Sean?

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Speaker 1: He's got two first round picks? I means is eleven?

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Speaker 1: I mean you don't think it's too rich, Dave, you

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Speaker 1: at the Saints at eleven? Actually the Saints at the

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Speaker 1: very least. The Saints have two first rounds. They need

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Speaker 1: to try and fix their defense. They've been trying to

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Speaker 1: do that for twenty six years now. That's and Drew

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Speaker 1: Brees makes you prime rib out of exactly potato salad whatever.

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Speaker 1: That's a terrible analogy, but you get my point, Like,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't need a top ten pick. Terribly awesome. He's

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Speaker 1: find a spot for him. It would be if Dan's

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Speaker 1: Why weren't you two hundred twenty eight pounds of the combine?

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Speaker 1: the team that trades up almost always overpays. The differential

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Speaker 1: to get. Yeah, it's a near impossibility for them to

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Speaker 1: be totally wiped out. I'm not yeah, no, no, you're

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Speaker 1: right about that. I'm not going. But I'm what I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to tell you here is could you go get

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Speaker 1: you know, if you feel I mean you're going, I'm

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Speaker 1: not asking you to go mammoth run to the top

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Speaker 1: of the board. Ims going to go. Four spots they have,

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Speaker 1: but you're getting You're you're giving up a three, but

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Speaker 1: you're getting back a four. They and they have three

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Speaker 1: picks that you would call premium picks. I put a

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Speaker 1: top one hundred pick in a different category from any

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Speaker 1: other kind of pick I do. So you're giving up

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Speaker 1: one of those to get one player, and we all

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Speaker 1: know that they have several holes on defense, they probably

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Speaker 1: need as many players as possible. I hate that. I

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Speaker 1: don't want it. And that's my whole point is like

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Speaker 1: if Derek barn if Derek Barnett tumbles down the draft board,

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Speaker 1: all right, and we're talking about something a little bit

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Speaker 1: different there, who Like we just got you convinced you

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Speaker 1: like tack McKinley. That's fine. If he's there at twenty eight,

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Speaker 1: I'm not giving up something to go get him, because

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Speaker 1: that like you, that's they did that in twenty fourteen.

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Speaker 1: Lawrence is the last right end on the board. He's

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Speaker 1: the guy we get twenty Detroit at twenty one. Who

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Speaker 1: else we got here Miami at twenty two. If this

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Speaker 1: team giants to twenty three, this team needed in a

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Speaker 1: right tackle. That was a number one need on this team. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you needed everything else. Talk to him, Dame. Then I

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Speaker 1: think it makes a little bit more sense because his

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Speaker 1: tackle classes. You know that four or five maybe guys

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Speaker 1: in this track, you trade this being started, you trade

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Speaker 1: up when losing that player is severely going to screw you.

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Speaker 1: So so what I'm gathering from Dave is that the

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Speaker 1: whole DeMarcus Lawds thing soured you on possibly moving up.

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Speaker 1: It sucked you lost the top fifty pick for a

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Speaker 1: guy who's been Okay, I mean, he's not wrong, he's

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Speaker 1: not wrong, and I think that I don't want that

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Speaker 1: shouldn't stop you from making that kind of move again.

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Speaker 1: You have to trust you. I agree with that. I

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Speaker 1: agree with that you have to trust your evaluations. And

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Speaker 1: if you think that, if you think it's McKinley, Harris,

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Speaker 1: those guys better than what you've seen with Lawrence, then

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Speaker 1: what the lord's coming out of Boise? Not really not

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Speaker 1: you s gott in him up. Yeah, I mean, I

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Speaker 1: think they're in the same type of tier. You know.

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Speaker 1: I don't think one's clearly better than the other. I

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Speaker 1: don't think I had I don't think I had him

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Speaker 1: in the first I had Harrison the second. Here, I

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Speaker 1: don't think I had Lawrence in the first round. I

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Speaker 1: had Lawrence at like twenty six overall something like that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I think he was right in that he went

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Speaker 1: right where he was supposed to. I think so. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And I think Harris he's right there. He's in that

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Speaker 1: twenty five to thirty five range overall, you know, somewhere

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Speaker 1: in there. So I think it's similar. Okay, how far

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Speaker 1: back would you go? Well, maybe this will do this

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Speaker 1: for another day. No, I don't know. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: got I just I was just on Gbag and I

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Speaker 1: Bag Nation is one five three. Dane's on that quite

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Speaker 1: a bit. If the quarterbacks. If you're the Cowboys, you

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Speaker 1: want to see these quarterbacks come off the boat. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: better players are gonna fall to you. But on the

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Speaker 1: flip side, if maybe these wide receivers too, I want

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Speaker 1: on the flarterbacks to hang around. Yeah. If these quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: hang around, then there's a few more. I say, Deshaun Kaiser,

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Speaker 1: maybe one of the other ones. They only two go

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Speaker 1: before you. Then all of a sudden, that twenty eighth

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Speaker 1: pick it's up for sale. Yeah, and you look at

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Speaker 1: at the top end of the second round. You have

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Speaker 1: Cleveland San Francisco. Oh sure ago, oh sums that might

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Speaker 1: be interested in that quarterback of the future, and so

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Speaker 1: they possibly could trade up, get that fifth year option,

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Speaker 1: get ahead of New Orleans at thirty two, secure that

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Speaker 1: quarterback of twenty eight. So, if you're the Cowboys, you're

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Speaker 1: only moving back five six seven spots. Would you go

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Speaker 1: back if Tack McKinley was on the board, Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm taking my chance that you know, a player like

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Speaker 1: him in that similar tier is going to be available

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Speaker 1: five six seven spots later. Now I'm not talking moving

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Speaker 1: in the mid second, you know, no, No, you're talking

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Speaker 1: about Cleveland forty nine ers top half of round two.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to go past them. I tried to

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Speaker 1: move up four spots, and you guys are dying and

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Speaker 1: now you want to dig all the way in the

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Speaker 1: middle at the top of the second talking about giving

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Speaker 1: up verse gaining pick, and I'm I'm with Dave with

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Speaker 1: about the top one hundred picks and how valuable they are,

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Speaker 1: especially in this draft. Due those guys are started. If

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Speaker 1: you do, you're scouting right. Those guys are started. So

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Speaker 1: just for guys are cowards twenty eight, twenty eight, sixty

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Speaker 1: and then not again till one, twenty nine or thirty six.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, no, you have your own fourth so you

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Speaker 1: have you have Oakland's pick, you have two fourth round picks,

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Speaker 1: or I could have. I could start picking at like

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Speaker 1: thirty six, and then you're gonna get a pretty good

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Speaker 1: player at twenty four. I think you are You are

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Speaker 1: the different the difference. You might get a difference maker,

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Speaker 1: but I think you can still get You might be

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Speaker 1: right on the edge of the of the last player

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Speaker 1: in the first round. It's like it's fair. Possibly. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's like shooting with a shotgun, like you. I want

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Speaker 1: as much spray pattern as possible I thought you guys

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Speaker 1: it's something you consider. You definitely can see. You don't

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Speaker 1: very popular. And yeah, edam be going to twenty one

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Speaker 1: like by the time the draft rolls around, everybody's gonna

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Speaker 1: like we gotta trade Yeah, like all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: me or you? No? You no, I just I had fight.

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Speaker 1: a draft room. Yeah, that's what's going on right now

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Speaker 1: right there there there are guys. There are guys that

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Speaker 1: don't make it a personal deal. But there is some

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Speaker 1: and came, here's great things on Thanksgiving and yeah, hup, whoops, whoops,

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Speaker 1: that happens. It's a draft. Jim Garrett, congratulations j d

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Speaker 1: him right, I've got can we not to push things along,

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Speaker 1: on Twitter on the twenty Yeah I do. I'm sorry

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Speaker 1: because this is what we're talking about, and you kind

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Speaker 1: Freddie's bringing us back to a guy that we've talked

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Speaker 1: the crap and he's like, how far by the way?

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Speaker 1: How far is this guy actually gonna fall? What are

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Speaker 1: we talking about here at this time two years ago?

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00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: You know, we never consider Grandy Gregory following this, you know,

635
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: not elate second round with Tim Williams. I think we

636
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: feel a lot better that he's going to slip, and

637
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 1: it could possibly into the third. I think that's possible.

638
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: It's tough because it's his issues are not just off

639
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 1: the field, Nope, he has plenty of issues on the field. Yes,

640
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: this is the player who you known career starts, he

641
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: had not many two Yeah, I was gonna say five. Yeah,

642
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 1: I knew it was single ditch. I just didn't want

643
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: to guess. Nick Saban knows a thing or two about

644
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 1: playing football, and he put them in, takes it on

645
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 1: the chin, every once. While doing that, he put him

646
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 1: in position to succeed as a pass rusher, um, you know,

647
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: a sub package guy. He averaged only twenty eight snaps

648
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: per game as a senior. It's hard. It's when you

649
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: watch him on tape, but it's some of the most

650
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: productive twenty eight snaps you'll ever see. He can get

651
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: to the quarterbacks. So if that, if that translates to

652
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 1: ten sacks a year for you, okay, then he's worth

653
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: a you know, a top sixty pick. But then you

654
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: also factor in the off field stuff, and it's just

655
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 1: it's a hard conversation. Let me make a prediction here.

656
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: Sounds like Friday night. Yeah, let me make a prediction

657
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: something like Cincinnati too. I think that Mixing and Williams

658
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: end up in Cincinnati somehow. And I'll tell you what,

659
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: only a team who's they got? They got? They got

660
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: very few media that cover the team. I mean we

661
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: got friends, they cover the team. They got really one

662
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 1: guy that does dot com Butchie. Butchie's not gonna write

663
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: anything negative about me. Yeah, and the Brown and the

664
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: Brown family, they don't care. They lead the league. They

665
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: lead the league and taking the the taking the questionable

666
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: guy and don't even care. They don't They really don't

667
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 1: think about that. We talked, we laughed yesterday about them

668
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: wanting to trade with them. They got a lot of picks. Yeah,

669
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: and they're gonna stand there and just make every single

670
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: one of them. And I guarantee you they're looking at

671
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: mixing and they're looking they're thinking, whoa Tim Williams first

672
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: round ability, first round ability, first round ability from what

673
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: you've seen in Alabama games. Yes, okay, what are the

674
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: Browns thinking? Brown? The Browns, I'm talking about the Browns

675
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: to own their family, the family. Yeah, they're sitting there thinking, huh,

676
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: second round, we can get a first round player, don't

677
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: have to pay and pay him second round money. Watch

678
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: watch the Bengals here. Plus they don't have to Bengals.

679
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: And the next thing that we'll talk about the front

680
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: seven at the Bengals because of Tim Williams screaming off

681
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,479
Speaker 1: the edge. They don't even have to ask that much

682
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: of him because they got done. Yea, it took that

683
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 1: linebacker perfect perfect. Yeah, everybody hated him because he was

684
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 1: a bad guy, and he makes two hundred tackles a year.

685
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 1: One of those guys, that's my prediction. You heard it

686
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 1: here In the Draft Show, Brian gets extra salty when

687
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 1: he talks about other teams getting bad people to be

688
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: good players. Brian, because I'm the champion of the bad guy.

689
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: I do, I love, I love Williams. I do, I love,

690
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: I love. The Bengals are gonna come away on Day

691
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: two with Tim Williams and Jim Mix. Oh yes, no

692
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: they're not. Yes, yes they will. No one team will

693
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 1: do both of those. Ye can you really watch when

694
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: it happens? When it just give give the old bald

695
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: guy some credit when that one rolls, I'll beat you.

696
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: Dinner in the eats, a pasta and Los Collinas. Okay,

697
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: you're on? Okay, Where would you feel comfortable drafting Tim

698
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: Williams twenty eight? You'd feel comfortable to take? Now? I

699
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: mean you know, no, I think he's a first round player.

700
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 1: It's not what I asked. Where would you feel comfortable

701
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: drafting him? Yeah, it sounds like from what y'all are saying,

702
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 1: he's gonna be there at sixty. No, he is gonna

703
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: be at sixty. Where is he on my board? They

704
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 1: and to answer all the questions out there, the cow

705
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: I just can't see the Cowboys doing that Himmer mixing,

706
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: He's sixty nine overall on my board, him or Mixing, mixing, mixing.

707
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: I hate even saying that, but okay, but I'm telling

708
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 1: you the Bengals watch this, all right. Maybe I don't know.

709
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: I'm not sure they'd have a chance that both of them,

710
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,399
Speaker 1: because I think I think Mixing is going second round

711
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: and I think good chance. We got multiple picks in

712
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: the second round. Where would you draft some Nattics? True?

713
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: Where would you all? Right? Where would you draft him?

714
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: If you were the Cowboys? Would you mix? Would you

715
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: take No? Oh? No, he's off. Those guys are off

716
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: the board. No consideration here, They're not They're not there.

717
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 1: You go, yeah, where right? Where do you feel come

718
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 1: from drafting? Actually, I take that back, I'm sorry, Uh,

719
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 1: dodging your question is dodging? No, I'm not second round,

720
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 1: mid second round, late second round through Williams, Tim william Yeah, absolutely,

721
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: I have. I have a first round grade on the guy.

722
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: But is that in considering the off field? That's just ability,

723
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: that is just the absolutely ability. Where would you take

724
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 1: him though your jobs on the line. Randy Gregory has

725
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,879
Speaker 1: top ten talent and he's played like eight games. So see,

726
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: that's the problem I have. But we hated. We not

727
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: hate a bad word. We didn't like. I didn't have

728
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 1: Gregory in the first round. I have. I have Williams

729
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,439
Speaker 1: in the first round. I think Williams is a better

730
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: rusher than Gregory. If you just watch the tape and

731
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 1: see if I'm in a room, if I'm over on

732
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: those side of this building, and I say he's got

733
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 1: first round talent, and then Will McClay would look at

734
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 1: me and go, he's off the board. Brian, who's the

735
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: next guy, Joe Mixon? I got first round grade on him,

736
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 1: Will Brian, he's off the board. You don't get to

737
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: say anything until lunch. Every time I try to talk

738
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 1: to Will about draft stuff, he shoots me down pretty quick.

739
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 1: He'll do that. Yeah, he likes, he sees, he likes

740
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 1: to make you. But I'm just saying, though, if you

741
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: just look at the ability first round grade for mixing

742
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 1: on ability, Yes, first round ability on Williams. Yes, at

743
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: some point in the first round. Yes, that's what I'm saying.

744
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: Neither will be here, No, neither one. Yeah, but you

745
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: know what, dope, man, if he's at sixty, it's that

746
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: that would be just that would be evil that the

747
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: storyline writes itself, and then the Cowboys would draft a

748
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 1: choir boy and people would compare it. The problem, the

749
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 1: thing that might keep them from doing that, Well, he's

750
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: they're probably both off the board. I'm just we're just

751
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: specting right here. But what would probably keep them from

752
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: doing that is they take a defensive end at twenty eight.

753
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: One of the reasons, Yeah, which I think they have

754
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 1: a good chance to do. If you take a corner,

755
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 1: you can't do it. Two years after taking Randy Gregory,

756
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 1: you can't can It doesn't matter if he's on the

757
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,879
Speaker 1: board or not. You can. His name is Tim, right, Tim?

758
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: Was that his name? Williams? No? No, Freddie, No, Freddie.

759
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Good question, Freddie, Yeah, really good question, Freddie.

760
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 1: You and I are drinking from the same bottle. Keegan

761
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 1: wants to know why don't we hear more of hate

762
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: when I do that, don't you? I'm still waiting for

763
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: an answer from you. Yeah, it's a fair point. Taking

764
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,879
Speaker 1: the twenty eight. He's off the board. I can't fight,

765
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,879
Speaker 1: ye would you take him? Doesn't matter the team he's

766
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 1: on the board. Your job's on the line. Where are

767
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: you betting on him if he's available at twenty eight,

768
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,919
Speaker 1: are you taking him regardless? Not this team, just any team,

769
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 1: any team. I probably would at twenty eight. Yep, I

770
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: got first round grade on him. Champion, champion of the

771
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: bad guys. Yeah, here why Keegan wants to know? Why

772
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 1: don't we hear more about Caleb Brantley stay on task?

773
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: Guys struggle with him because I've never seen a prospect

774
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,399
Speaker 1: be more outspoken about his lack of effort that he's

775
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,800
Speaker 1: given on the field. Never I've never seen. Hey credit

776
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: to him for being honest answering questions honestly. But he's

777
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: a good player though at the same time, he isn't

778
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 1: flashes and that goes back to the effort thing. I mean,

779
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:24,919
Speaker 1: if you watch his flashes, you think, oh, this guy's

780
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 1: a first round pick. Yeah, you're watching the tape. In totality,

781
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 1: it's something that, well, where was he on this snap?

782
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: Was he was he on the field? Oh? Yeah, there

783
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 1: he is. I mean he just he disappears. And so

784
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: this is not a great defensive tackle class. Uh. You know,

785
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 1: as good as last year was, this year is not

786
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: good at all. And I think he's in consideration to

787
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 1: be the first defensive tackle drafted. But when you consider

788
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 1: the motor and the effort issues, that knocks him down.

789
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: That's a guy that doesn't play hard right well he

790
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 1: is said, he said at the combine, he said it

791
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 1: is pro day. He said, I'm good at this this

792
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: and this. Only thing I need to work on is

793
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 1: my effort. You know, some people say I don't play

794
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 1: all the time every snap. I would agree with them.

795
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: That's that's a quote from him. That's that doesn't scare you.

796
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 1: I don't know what does second best three technique in

797
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:18,240
Speaker 1: the draft behind Alan if you're if you're not considering

798
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 1: Solomon Thomas there, it's yeah, I thinks in terms of

799
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 1: an inside penetrator. Yeah, in terms of ability. Um, but

800
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: I have like the Charlotte kid ranked over him, uh

801
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: oh Ogan Joebi yep, because I have him around behind him,

802
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: because I trust them more. Yeah, I've got a two

803
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 1: on Ogan joby, I've got a two three on Brandon.

804
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: Let me ask you, this is the fact that you've

805
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 1: been doing this for so many years now, got you

806
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 1: tainted a little bit burned and what way that maybe

807
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 1: you would be a little bit more aggressive on some guys.

808
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: But but the fact that you felt like you've you

809
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 1: fought for some guys and we've And I'm not just

810
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 1: saying you sing scouts in general. I'm not just throwing

811
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: you under the bus. It's both ways. I'm just saying

812
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: that there's been so many guys that like a Williams.

813
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,879
Speaker 1: You press me on Williams, and rightfully so, I said

814
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 1: he had a first round grade. But do you get

815
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: you get to the point where you're so beat down

816
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: by it, and then we got to do this again

817
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 1: next year and everybody reminds you what a jackass you

818
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: were for. But I would argue that I'm maybe not

819
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 1: for every guy, but for as many Randy Gregory's. There

820
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: are guys who have these flags who where it pans out.

821
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 1: I mean, Honey Badger. The Honey Badger is a great example.

822
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: And that's that's the thing, is tyrans scout. Yeah, you

823
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: tried to pick up on Okay, Well, you're gonna make mistakes.

824
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 1: That's we are. That's just that's miss day and age

825
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: you are regardless, You're not gonna you know, it's like

826
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: a hitter in baseball. If you hit, get a hit

827
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 1: three times out of ten, you're you're awesome, you're an

828
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: All Star, you're a three hundred hitter. And the same

829
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 1: thing with scouting. You're gonna miss on a lot of

830
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 1: these guys for whatever reason, and it just it goes

831
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 1: down to, okay, figuring out why you miss and so

832
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: with these guys with the off field issues, trying to

833
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 1: figure out, okay, well, what was it that we missed

834
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 1: on that he was able to correct at the NFL level.

835
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 1: It's tough. It's something that scouting. It doesn't matter if

836
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 1: you've been doing this for fifty years, you should still

837
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: learn and you know, trying to figure things out. So

838
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 1: it's year after year. You know, maybe I might feel

839
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: better about some of these character guys a year from that,

840
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 1: who knows. It's it's something that you try to learn

841
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: you're you're from. I mean you try and every draft

842
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: you try and be a little different. It's a shame though,

843
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 1: that you bring Randy Gregory up. Yeah, but it's true.

844
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: You know, people compare. That's what the draft. I mean,

845
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: you go back and you look at these names and

846
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 1: you're gonna argue, like hell for Tim Williams, and somebody's

847
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: gonna bring up Randy Gregory and you're gonna go. You

848
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: know what, They're right, But you're fighting like hell for

849
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,879
Speaker 1: Tim Williams because you know he can help your football team,

850
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: because there's a possibility that he will be like Tyron

851
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: Matthew and come in and do everything you want him

852
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: to do. He there's also a possibility he can kill

853
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: your football team. Like you know, how much better would ranks?

854
00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: How much better would this pass rush be if Randy

855
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 1: Gregory you could stay in the facility. That's fair. We're

856
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 1: not talking about defensive end and abound one. Yeah, we're

857
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: talking about No, that's absolutely I wonder if they're going

858
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 1: to have that decision. He's probably off the board. We'll

859
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: figure it out by the time the draft rolls around

860
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: three weeks from tonight. I'll have that figured out. Somebody will.

861
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: We got time for one more, one more if we

862
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 1: could kind of this goes back to the Christian McCaffrey

863
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 1: conversation from earlier. D Ritchie wants to know is there

864
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: such a thing or what constitutes a luxury pick for

865
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: this team? And he didn't specify, but I'll say in

866
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: the first or second Dory Jackson, is that really a

867
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: luxury pick? Though? If it's a need twenty eight and

868
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: you do. He's not going to be there at sixty. No,

869
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 1: but you, I mean, do you feel like though you

870
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: what about a guy we talked about yesterday with Curtis Samuel,

871
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: Curtis Samuel there, that's in my mind, the only I

872
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: could sinking of a guy really early. Yeah, Samuel has

873
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 1: to be early too, Samuel have to be. He'd have

874
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,439
Speaker 1: to be in a tradeback scenario or if you ask

875
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 1: somehow last sixty trade back scenario. I think you've got

876
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 1: two guys, Dorry Jack excellent Samuel. If Samuel, in fact

877
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,280
Speaker 1: is I think he's on their board. The only position

878
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: like him that I think I could truly consider a

879
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: luxury pick our first of all quarterback, quarterback, running back.

880
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 1: I think linebacker, Yeah, yeah, no, for sure, I think

881
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 1: linebacker probably like your boy Cunningham Vandy. That would be

882
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 1: a total luxury like that pick. And I think it

883
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 1: just depends who could fold to them. Yeah, you just

884
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,439
Speaker 1: they're surprises every every draft. You know, we talked about

885
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: Ruben Foster yesterday. If he were to fall somehow, you know,

886
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: how would that fit? Uh? You know, it could be

887
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 1: a surprise. Name who knows. I want tack to fall.

888
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 1: That's the one guy I want to fall. Is that

889
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: really a fall though? Like I mean, yeah, because I

890
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 1: think he's the middle of the draft guy. I think

891
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 1: he's a top fifteen to eighteen guy. Yeah, I do. Yeah,

892
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 1: I think he's twenty two on my board or something

893
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 1: like that. Right with the with the injury, Yeah, he

894
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: could easily fall. He's not worth giving up pick ninety

895
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: two four. Tell you that right now? Yeah, See he

896
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: goes back to history. He doesn't want to go through

897
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: that whole thing with Lawrence again on a okay player,

898
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 1: I just want to have as many picks as possible

899
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 1: to try to fix the roster. That's really all I

900
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 1: care about, and especially in again this draft that's so

901
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,800
Speaker 1: deep on day two, okay, real quick then before we

902
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 1: hit break, is with the deep draft, we could talk

903
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 1: about the top one hundred, both of you. Are we

904
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 1: gonna see a lot of trades if you could get

905
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 1: the same player at twenty eight that you could get

906
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: at twenty one, right, are we gonna see people say, no,

907
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna do

908
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 1: an Oakland trade because I'll get the same player. You know,

909
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 1: I'm gonna and Dane knows more than me. But I'm

910
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 1: gonna go out on a lemon say I would bet

911
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 1: not because again, do you think people are gonna move what? No,

912
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: I think people are gonna stand pass and pick because

913
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: what drives trades quarterbacks typically in this quarterback class sucks well.

914
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: And I think teams are gonna be so reluctant to

915
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 1: give up those Day two picks that you know, it

916
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Speaker 1: might be a scenario where we see, you know, next

917
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Speaker 1: year's picks get traded. But I think teams are going

918
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: to be very reluctant to give up this year's picks.

919
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Speaker 1: And it's because of that. Yeah, I think, good chance

920
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: we see lower numbers. I'm gonna throw something out there.

921
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 1: I think the teams that have compensatory picks might be

922
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:09,240
Speaker 1: the teams that move people. Yeah, move picks that extra

923
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 1: you know, extra you know, and especially too, if you

924
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 1: think about the Cowboys getting compensatory picks next year, maybe

925
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: you're more willing to move a third round pick next

926
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 1: year or a fourth round pick, thinking would you and

927
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 1: you're talking the Cowboys would be giving up next year's

928
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: picks to get back into this draft well to yeah,

929
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:27,919
Speaker 1: to get back in to get back into a spot,

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Speaker 1: especially if you knew you were gonna get compensitories. Yeah, yeah,

931
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 1: that's fair. Yeah. Or maybe in that scenario which moving

932
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Speaker 1: up to twenty four, you trade in next year's camp.

933
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Speaker 1: Pick there you go. You know, I mean you don't

934
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935
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Speaker 1: could probably could get a four, say or three. You

936
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Speaker 1: give up twenty eight and a four that's not enough. No,

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Speaker 1: I think it would have to be a third round camp,

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Speaker 1: good conversation, But tell me more about Utah cornerback Brian

998
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 1: Allen good name, good name, had a great combine, tall,

999
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: lanky guy who former wide receiver. He's only been a

1000
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1001
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:19,640
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1002
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: extremely raw. I don't think this is a player it's

1003
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:25,279
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1004
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1005
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1006
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1007
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:38,759
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1008
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 1: does make some sense. Yeah, I think the thing and

1009
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 1: you could see it with Dane's talking about a little

1010
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:48,240
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1011
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 1: you know, as a secondary. I felt like though that

1012
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 1: he needs to do a better job of finding the football.

1013
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 1: That was one of the things you see him give

1014
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: up plays, and that's and that to me, Dane's absolutely right.

1015
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:01,399
Speaker 1: He's not probably gonna help you in the first year.

1016
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: He's gonna have to learn. Somebody's in the NFL is

1017
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 1: gonna have to coach him up. He's probably gonna be

1018
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 1: in a guy it's being inactive every single week unless

1019
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 1: he could find a special team's role. But he's gonna

1020
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,760
Speaker 1: have to learn how to play. He's got the physical

1021
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 1: ability to play. I just don't think he has the

1022
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 1: understanding because I say, you see some big plays when

1023
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 1: he's in coverage, and that's a that's just a lot

1024
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 1: of it has to be with the recognition and then experience.

1025
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 1: Day three. Uh yeah, I gave the fifth sixth round

1026
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: right great on. I mean, he's sixty three thirty four

1027
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 1: inch arms, which is just crazy for a corner six

1028
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 1: three corner from the Pac twelve who used to play

1029
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 1: receiver and is projected in the fifth round. Yeah, there

1030
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 1: you go. Maybe a former Stanford I'm on board the

1031
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 1: next the fifth round board. Tell me more about I

1032
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:52,760
Speaker 1: hope I get this right. If yati O a Nigbo

1033
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 1: defensive end from Northwestern, yeah he good. Nice job with that,

1034
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: I got it. Yeah, awesome, you're the champ with those names.

1035
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 1: By the way, get ready to draft night. Yeah. One

1036
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: of the highest recruits ever at Northwestern, and I think

1037
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: that kind of got to him because he wasn't a

1038
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 1: productive guy from day one. He's one of the better

1039
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 1: interviews talking to him. He's a very bright guy. I mean,

1040
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:21,720
Speaker 1: what you would expect for a Northwestern kid, very enjoys

1041
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 1: kind of talking about the game. As a senior, you

1042
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 1: started to see it come together a little bit more,

1043
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,800
Speaker 1: which was I think that's why he's going to get drafted.

1044
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 1: What he did as a senior. You saw the light

1045
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 1: bulb start to illuminate more and more. But this is

1046
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 1: a guy who I think the expectations of being a

1047
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 1: top recruit at Northwestern really overwhelmed him his first few seasons.

1048
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:48,399
Speaker 1: But I do think there is some upside there. Yeah.

1049
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 1: I do think that he can get better and be

1050
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 1: a guy who contributes down the line. For you. You

1051
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 1: play a little bit with him at the left and

1052
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: right in so it's not just a writing guy. Initially

1053
00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 1: I saw him on tape, he was just a writing guy.

1054
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 1: And then you'd start watching some more of the games.

1055
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 1: You know, we've known, we've seen a lot of these

1056
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 1: big ten tackles, especially when he was up against a

1057
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 1: ram check, you know in Wisconsin, you can kind of

1058
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 1: tell that it was. Now, this is a really strong kid.

1059
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,760
Speaker 1: I think he's I like the way he tries to extend.

1060
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 1: I like the way he plays his hands. I just

1061
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 1: don't think he can capture the corner well enough right now.

1062
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: And there were times too where, even though with all

1063
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: that strength when he'd rush up the field, you'd see

1064
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 1: guys push him too far up the field and he

1065
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 1: just didn't have the ability to get back. His best

1066
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: move is when he can spin and try and get

1067
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: back inside. He was close a lot, but never really finished.

1068
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: But the people will like the measurables, they'll like the smarts,

1069
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 1: they'll like the effort. I just don't see a guy

1070
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:49,439
Speaker 1: that completely finishes as a defensive end. I initially thought

1071
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 1: maybe he would be a guy that you want to

1072
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 1: kick inside and let him play as a three. But

1073
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 1: you know that's what he's gonna be. Sixty pounds. He's

1074
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,800
Speaker 1: gonna have to be. That's once I went away once that.

1075
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 1: You're right that that part of me said, no, he

1076
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:05,919
Speaker 1: can't do that, because I felt like, if you could

1077
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:07,879
Speaker 1: put him at the quarterback, he could maybe be quick

1078
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 1: enough because you see it initial quickness, you see him

1079
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 1: getting up the field. But then if you put him

1080
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 1: by the quarterback, maybe he can make a capture there.

1081
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 1: But having to go a long way, make that travel,

1082
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 1: it's it's a little bit more difficult. His rush tends

1083
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 1: to stall out because once it does, he doesn't really

1084
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:24,800
Speaker 1: have a calendar or you know, a plan to that point.

1085
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 1: And that's something I think there is some untapped potential there.

1086
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:29,800
Speaker 1: He can't get better, right, But I gave him a

1087
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 1: six seventh round grade. Yeah he was. That's exactly where

1088
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,959
Speaker 1: I had him. The Beast has six seventh round grade.

1089
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 1: For anybody listening, everything Dane's saying you can get in

1090
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 1: his book, Like not that we don't want to hear

1091
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 1: it from Dane Ball. Oh absolutely, this thing is incredible.

1092
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 1: Tell me more about the shoplifter Arkansas tight end Jeremy

1093
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 1: Sprinkles below Belk Bowl right, Belk Bowl Charlotte one of

1094
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:56,319
Speaker 1: the most perplexing. That's the weirdest thing ever. Yeah, it's

1095
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 1: I mean, and he was given a four hundred and

1096
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 1: fifty dollars gift car. Yeah, they're they're they're saying, here,

1097
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 1: go ahead and shop for yourself, but by whatever you want,

1098
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 1: buy whatever you want with his card, and then you

1099
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 1: can walk out with it and playing the game. You

1100
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 1: still tempted to just I don't know, bizarre. And well,

1101
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 1: we'll see if that impacts his draft grade at all,

1102
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 1: because he's a pretty good player. Yeah, I could argue

1103
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 1: he's one of the better all around tight ends in

1104
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 1: this class because of his ability as a blocker and

1105
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 1: as a pass catcher. You know, I don't you compare

1106
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 1: him last year with Hunter Henry, and Hunter Henry was

1107
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 1: the better pass catcher, more athletic, more athletic, better hands, right,

1108
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 1: But I don't think it's a huge gap there. I mean,

1109
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:36,399
Speaker 1: Jerry Sprinkle's capable pass catcher. Plus he's a much better

1110
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 1: blocker than Hunter Henry. Right, absolutely, So you know, in

1111
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:41,839
Speaker 1: the fourth round, you know this is we talked about

1112
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 1: this tight end class, how deep it is. He's one

1113
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 1: of the reasons why you know in that after the

1114
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,479
Speaker 1: first first few waves, the tight ends come off the board.

1115
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 1: You know, the big names that we've talked about, Jeremy

1116
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 1: Sprinkle early day three could end up being a nice

1117
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 1: value pick. Yeah, see this this thing. He's absolutely right.

1118
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 1: Hunter Henry's a downfield player. This guy could get down field,

1119
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 1: but he lumbers a little bit. But I'll tell you something.

1120
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 1: And Dane's right about him as well. He's an inline player.

1121
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 1: You could see him. You know, if you're looking for

1122
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 1: the inline blocker. We've talked about our kid from Ashland

1123
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 1: that being an inline player. Sprinkle is an inline guy.

1124
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 1: You could put him at the point of attack. Now,

1125
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:17,320
Speaker 1: he's not gonna get great movement, but he is a

1126
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 1: big body. He'll extend and he kind of positions himself.

1127
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:24,360
Speaker 1: He's not gonna just snap somebody off the line of scrimmage,

1128
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 1: but he's gonna jump inside, he's gonna cut him off,

1129
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 1: ball goes to the outside, he's gonna hook his man.

1130
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 1: Those are the kinds of things that he can do.

1131
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 1: He could tie his guy up and you'll see him

1132
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 1: make some incredible plays down the field. I mean we're

1133
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,320
Speaker 1: about Hunter Henry downfield. This guy can like in the

1134
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 1: Florida game, like a one handed catch ball goes too far,

1135
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 1: he like basically tips it back to himself along the sidelines.

1136
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, somebody will take an opportunity. There's a lot

1137
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 1: of good tight ends. But I do worry about the

1138
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 1: the lack of athletic ability with this guy, because a

1139
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: lumbering players. Yeah, that's that's what I want. I like

1140
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 1: I talked about in Joku, like this team doesn't need

1141
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 1: the why freakish athlete guy that they're not going to

1142
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 1: use him, right, Just give me the they need. They

1143
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: need that kid they got from Baylor to step up.

1144
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 1: Give me the blocker guy. Yeah. And as a blocker,

1145
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 1: out of my top seventeen tight ends, Sprinkle has the

1146
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 1: second longest arms. Yeah, of these this group, but thirty

1147
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 1: four and a half inch arms, And that shows as

1148
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 1: a blocker, he's he might not be an overwhelming guy,

1149
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:22,800
Speaker 1: but he's he could be a sustained guy. That's what

1150
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:26,399
Speaker 1: he does. He will quickly hop inside and sit there

1151
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 1: on a guy and hold and hold it holding the

1152
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,760
Speaker 1: ball goes and then he kind of loses his block.

1153
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 1: But that's what he does. This and this is we're

1154
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 1: getting away from Jeremy Sprinkle. But just in general, this

1155
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 1: tight end class is so deep that it tight ends

1156
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 1: are big wide receivers will but I think you have

1157
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 1: both though, and but there's plenty of guys that you

1158
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 1: can draft to play tight end asolutely on Day three.

1159
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 1: Like the safety class, it makes me want to stay

1160
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,240
Speaker 1: far day the hell away from oj Howard and David

1161
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:57,800
Speaker 1: and joku um. All right, tell me more about Jordan Morgan,

1162
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 1: who is a guard from a school that I've never

1163
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:04,399
Speaker 1: heard of. Cuts down, cuts town. Andre Andre Reid. That's okay,

1164
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 1: Brian told me that this morning. I'm sorry, I didn't

1165
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 1: know where Andre Reid went to college. Uh they named

1166
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:12,359
Speaker 1: the field after him, actually, Uh, Andre Andre Reid Field

1167
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 1: there he puts down on PA. Uh. He's fascinating, And

1168
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 1: I do you like him? With a Senior Bowl? You

1169
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 1: know what? I noticed him more on tape than I

1170
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 1: did the Senior Bowl. Right when I went back and

1171
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 1: watched him, I was really really impressed with his ability

1172
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 1: for his hands and his feet to work together as

1173
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 1: a left tackle. As a left tackle, I didn't think

1174
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 1: I was kind of I was thinking, Okay, I'm gonna

1175
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 1: see a narrow, thin not very athletic guy. This guy has. Now,

1176
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 1: the one problem he'll have is that he'll get a

1177
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 1: little top heavy on you and as he's carrying a

1178
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 1: guy wide. But when you talk about initial punch, it

1179
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 1: kind of snapped the guy back. And then he's in

1180
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 1: position as set. I mean, his his past set is

1181
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 1: really good. And you watch him down ball, I get balanced,

1182
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 1: and you watch him down block. Okay, we're playing lawyers

1183
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 1: and doctors and Dennists and all that. I get it.

1184
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 1: But he's taking those lawyers and doctors and Dennist and

1185
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 1: knocking him off the screen. I mean, he's got some

1186
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 1: power to him. He does, and I'm interested to see

1187
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 1: because he's such an athlete. With the way he redirects,

1188
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 1: you project him as a guard guard in the book.

1189
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 1: See that that's he could be a guy with the punch,

1190
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 1: the athletic ability, somebody with an athletic front that like

1191
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 1: zone blocks, second level blocks. This kid might have an

1192
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 1: opportunity to be there. Yeah, I agree. And where'd you

1193
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 1: grade him? I put him in the fifth. I'm in

1194
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 1: the fourth. Yeah, I think we both the early day

1195
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 1: three right, And he's fascinating because he didn't play football

1196
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 1: until the senior year in high school and he only

1197
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 1: did it because he needed a sport requirement to graduate. Yeah,

1198
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 1: and so he went out for football, amazing, and it

1199
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 1: didn't even have football in his high school. Had to

1200
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 1: go to another high school to play football, and uh,

1201
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 1: you know, he received a few looks and Cutstown Division

1202
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 1: two gave him a walk on opportunity, right, and he

1203
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 1: goes there red shirts, and then he earns a left

1204
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 1: tackle job and he starts the next four years at

1205
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 1: left He already three starts. I left. Yeah, he's he's

1206
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 1: fun to watch. I was expecting kind of, but it

1207
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 1: was like I was like, whoa, I watched Yeah, after

1208
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 1: that exactly because at the senior ball he was underwhelming. Yeah,

1209
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 1: he was very underwhelming of this senior. But but then

1210
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 1: then you worry about the going up there. Kent's like, hey,

1211
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 1: it's gotta go do something. Played off the stage real quickly.

1212
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:31,439
Speaker 1: This just makes me. We gotta get that fifth round

1213
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 1: pick back. Oh, I've got I got some teams. I

1214
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 1: told you that. Some teams that got Day three looks

1215
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 1: very deep. Arizona, Buffalo, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Green Bay, Kansas City, Miami,

1216
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 1: New England, and San Francisco all holding extra fifth round pick.

1217
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 1: We gotta get that fifth next show. That's what we're doing.

1218
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 1: I'm getting a fifth pick, fifth round pick back. I'm

1219
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 1: gonna draw you guys off sides again. Bring it. I'm

1220
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 1: gonna go just one spot lower the next time. I

1221
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 1: want to thank everybody out there. Want to thank Dane Brugler,

1222
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 1: frall Is football knowledge in the Draft. I want to

1223
00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 1: thank David Hellman for carrying this single. I'm also wanna

1224
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 1: thank k Garrison for executive producing, Derek Eagleton, Taylor Stern,

1225
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 1: Thank you guys. Thanks Ed Cahill for creating this show

1226
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 1: some years ago. We'll catch back up with you guys

1227
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 1: next Thursday for another edition of The Draft Show. This

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