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Speaker 1: Fresh Show. It's Kik's Court.

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Speaker 2: All rise, the honorable kikileik oh Man A right chess, Kiki,

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Speaker 2: All right, what say you?

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Speaker 3: Let's get in the courtroom. The gabble has been hits.

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Speaker 3: It says, hey, Kikey, I need your honest opinion because

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Speaker 3: my family thinks I've lost my mind. I canceled my

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Speaker 3: wedding three years ago. My fiance cheated on me while

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Speaker 3: we were on we were dating, we did the whole

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Speaker 3: therapy forgiveness, rebuild trust thing. Eventually he proposed and I

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Speaker 3: really thought we were in a solid spot. Fast forward

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Speaker 3: to last week. We were at the bar with his coworkers,

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Speaker 3: and one of them casually mentions, oh yeah, Carrie, the

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Speaker 3: woman he cheated with joined our team a few months ago.

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Speaker 4: I froze.

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Speaker 3: He never told me that she worked there, and for

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Speaker 3: six months at that I felt humiliated, blindsided. So I

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Speaker 3: left him at the bar, went home and called off

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Speaker 3: our wedding. Now my mom and sister are saying that

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Speaker 3: I overreacted because he didn't actually cheat again, and you

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Speaker 3: can't control where people work.

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Speaker 4: But to me, the lion by omission feels just as bad.

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Speaker 3: And if he was a trustworthy man, why would he

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Speaker 3: hide it? So am I wrong for calling off our

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Speaker 3: wedding over something that technically happened years ago? But it

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Speaker 3: feels brand new all over again. What do you think,

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Speaker 3: Judge Kiki girl almost called off my wedding over socks

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Speaker 3: this morning? So you know, sister, I feel you, and

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Speaker 3: you know how I feel about withholding information in a relationship.

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Speaker 3: You know, you can hide it from the world, but

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Speaker 3: you should tell your partner. I feel like I should

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Speaker 3: have known, or she should have known, that that woman

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Speaker 3: is now working at his job. I do think he

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Speaker 3: made a big mistake by not telling her. He didn't

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Speaker 3: withhold it, though, well, technically I think you did because

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Speaker 3: you know, if Carrie is now your coworker, and you

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Speaker 3: know the history that you and Carrie have, you don't

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Speaker 3: think to bring that up over dinner one night.

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Speaker 1: Why would you do that to yourself? Though?

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Speaker 3: But then if you don't and your and your friend

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Speaker 3: tells me about it, and now we're in a worse spot.

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Speaker 4: So I don't think.

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Speaker 3: I think you're a little dramatic by calling off your

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Speaker 3: wed and I will be honest, I think this is

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Speaker 3: something that you guys can work through. But I don't

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Speaker 3: feel that he was completely innocent by not bringing this up.

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Speaker 2: You guys with the jury eight five, five, five, nine,

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Speaker 2: one oh three five context to say number Noine, I

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Speaker 2: don't know why you'd walk into that again, I mean,

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Speaker 2: because it just it just sort of opens the wound. Okay,

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Speaker 2: you know, if you're so, so, he cheated, he got

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Speaker 2: caught or acknowledged it or whatever happened. They went through

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Speaker 2: the process, he's been forgiven. She she's good with him,

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Speaker 2: they're they're engaged, they're getting married. Everything is fine. So

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Speaker 2: why would he sit down and go, oh, by the way,

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Speaker 2: remember that threat from the past, Remember that that that

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Speaker 2: woman with whom I made poor decisions. Yeah, she's in

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Speaker 2: my life again now every single day, and so nothing

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Speaker 2: to worry about here, nothing to see. I just want

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Speaker 2: you to know that I don't know. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: can see both sides. I can see why you would

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Speaker 2: say something. I can very much see why you would not.

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Speaker 2: But we moved past it going.

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Speaker 4: To the holiday party, you know, and then it's like, oh,

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Speaker 4: what is she doing here? Or what is he doing here?

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Speaker 3: You wouldn't want your partner to have given you a

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Speaker 2: I just think you're asking for problems. I think you're

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Speaker 2: asking for it all to be dug up again. But

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Speaker 2: it's already been forgiven and and we've moved past it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if he wanted to cheat with this woman,

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Speaker 2: he would do it whether she worked there or not.

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Speaker 4: I agree. How do I know you didn't get her

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Speaker 4: of get heard the job?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 2: See, there you go. This is what I'm talking about here,

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Speaker 2: we go down this rabbit hole. This is the rabbit

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Speaker 2: hole where you're just saying things now, Yes, and you

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Speaker 2: have no evidence of that, no proof of that. He

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Speaker 2: may have had nothing to do with it whatsoever. And

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Speaker 2: it doesn't matter because we've already forgiven him for the

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Speaker 2: only way this works, except we're not if we're saying

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Speaker 3: Okay, but I just don't believe you should withhold information

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Speaker 3: because you're worried about my reaction.

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Speaker 4: Tell me and let me process it.

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Speaker 1: May we ask if it happened he just didn't tell her.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you didn't tell me and someone else told me.

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Speaker 2: But withholding would mean that that you that you asked

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Speaker 2: and he said no, or that you know a lie.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't because he does.

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Speaker 2: Don't want to go there again, because this is what happens.

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Speaker 2: And we start asking, a bunch of a bunch of

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Speaker 2: crazy things start coming in your brain, like oh, well,

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Speaker 2: now you're you're you're in close proximity, so you're gonna

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Speaker 2: slip and fall in a meeting and stick it in

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Speaker 2: her or something like no, you're not, like you know,

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Speaker 2: you're not.

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Speaker 1: You're not going to You're not going to do that.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Hi, Mary's Court, you're the jury.

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Speaker 1: What say you?

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Speaker 6: Well, what I say is that on one end, I

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Speaker 6: do believe she's being a little over dramatic However, he's also.

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Speaker 7: Not completely off the hook with this one.

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Speaker 8: I feel like transparency is key to rebuilding that trust.

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Speaker 7: And if the work was.

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Speaker 6: Done for them to forgive and rebuild the trust, then yes,

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Speaker 6: being transparent, he is part of the work that everybody

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Speaker 6: put in, So why not bring it up?

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Speaker 8: Why not say anything?

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Speaker 9: Right?

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Speaker 7: Unless somebody has something to hide, that's the only reason

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Speaker 6: Keep that valuable information. I feel like, which gives the

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Speaker 6: other person peace of mind.

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Speaker 8: But yes, she is but dramatic.

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Speaker 7: I feel like this is something that could take a conversation.

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Speaker 6: Clarity, maybe another couple of therapy sessions and uh, you know,

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Speaker 6: work through it.

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Speaker 8: If the love is there, then just work through the issue.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, all right, thank you, Marcy.

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Speaker 7: You're welcome.

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Speaker 1: Haven't the day? No, I'm here, I'm here in different respectives.

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Speaker 4: Hi, Lucy, how's you going?

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Speaker 10: Guys?

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Speaker 9: Morning?

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Speaker 1: Lucy good more. Kiki's Court. So basically.

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Speaker 2: Peeboard together male female, they're together and dude cheated with

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Speaker 2: a woman. Now a woman works, and they've moved on,

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Speaker 2: the couple's moved on the forgiveness and the whole thing,

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Speaker 2: and they're engaged. They getting married and now the woman

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Speaker 2: that dude cheated with now works with dude, and and

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Speaker 2: he didn't come home and just tell her that, and

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Speaker 2: now she's canceling the wedding and the whole thing. He

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Speaker 2: didn't necessarily go back there. We don't think he went

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Speaker 2: back there. We don't know that she's just mad because

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Speaker 2: this lady's at work every day and he didn't tell her.

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Speaker 11: What do you think I think what she key said.

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Speaker 11: I mean, he could have avoided any type of even

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Speaker 11: minor and insecurity that the girlfriend's going to have, the

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Speaker 11: fiance is going to have by saying, hey, babe, really quick,

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Speaker 11: super weird, she works here, and I know what one happened,

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Speaker 11: just so you know, and you leave it there and

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Speaker 11: then obviously she might.

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Speaker 10: Be on guard.

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Speaker 11: But I mean, that's what a relationship is. It's awkward.

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Speaker 11: You know, you got to get through it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess, I guess you could.

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Speaker 2: But that's that means that you trust that you're not

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Speaker 2: going to continue to be penalized for the past, or

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Speaker 2: that you're not digging up all this stuff again.

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Speaker 11: Trust like, hey, I trust that you're working with her.

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Speaker 10: Thanks for letting me know.

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Speaker 7: Listen, I was previously.

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Speaker 5: Married and a lot was withheld and.

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Speaker 11: If it would have just been told to me, I'd

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Speaker 11: still be married. So let me just tell you that.

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Speaker 2: See, he screwed up, right, he screwed up by cheating,

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Speaker 2: But he I'm guessing he doesn't trust that bringing that

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Speaker 2: information up is going to result in her going Okay, now,

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Speaker 2: I remember that we've moved past this, so I'm not

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Speaker 2: saying it's her fault at all, But I think the

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Speaker 1: And I don't know that he should be afraid of

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Speaker 7: That's valid, but that's valid.

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Speaker 11: We all have fears, like if he loves her so

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Speaker 11: much and he's like, okay, sheardy forgave me once? What

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Speaker 11: if his pushes are over the edge? I get all that,

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Speaker 11: But at the end of the day, like I guess,

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Speaker 11: we all don't have a handbook on what's right and

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Speaker 11: what's wrong. But I just honesty. I mean, if he

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Speaker 11: learns now like honesty will always win, even if it's

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Speaker 11: super award, you'll feel better at the.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Lucy, have a good day.

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Speaker 8: Thanks guys, adore you by I have a good more than.

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Speaker 1: I adore you. That's nice thing. To say, Fred, I.

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Speaker 2: Don't disagree with you often, but Kiki is right withholding

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Speaker 2: is not telling your partner. Your partner shouldn't have to ask.

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Speaker 2: But if your partner does, as you don't disclose, that's

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Speaker 2: a lie. I guess what I mean is if she

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Speaker 2: asked me and I lied, But like, what are you

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Speaker 2: asking about this woman constantly? Because again, we supposedly moved

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Speaker 2: on here. That's the biggest part of this. I'm not

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Speaker 2: saying forgiveness is easy, but she forgave him. There should

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Speaker 2: be zero penalty for whatever happens moving forward if she

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Speaker 2: forgave him and he's holding up his end of the

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Speaker 2: bargain and there's trust. For whatever reason, he thought he

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Speaker 2: would be penalized for bringing this up again. And I'm

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Speaker 2: not saying that that's that she did anything wrong, but

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Speaker 2: I just think like he doesn't want he doesn't want

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Speaker 3: I understand what you don't want, but you brought the

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Speaker 3: smoke in the house, and so I need to know

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Speaker 3: that there's a new fire, and I need to know.

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Speaker 1: About there isn't a new fire.

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Speaker 4: The house is on fire.

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Speaker 1: We go Hey, Christina, Hi, good morning, Hi, good morning. Hi.

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Speaker 2: Takes court, you're the jury, what say you?

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Speaker 10: Okay? So I just called old Jos's a couple of

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Speaker 10: months ago, called off my wedding because I found out

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Speaker 10: my fiance was cheating on me.

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Speaker 1: I'm happened.

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Speaker 10: I mean, that's a life and China the worst, but

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Speaker 10: for her, like I tried to make it work too.

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Speaker 10: And then you just find out new information and though

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Speaker 10: it's old information to them, it's new information to you.

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Speaker 1: Well, then you didn't. Then you didn't.

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Speaker 2: Because this guy's got to have a chance to redeem

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Speaker 2: I would agree that he doesn't need to fear her

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Speaker 2: Bargain because we have to, because we because we forgave

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Speaker 10: Work through this. But now she found out, so now

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Speaker 10: it's kind of like for me, I would be like,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, here's what I would have done, Christina. I would

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Speaker 4: Now it's to decide that I do.

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Speaker 2: Though, Kiki, because we because when you forgive someone and

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Speaker 1: But because we're moving forward.

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Speaker 3: How I'm going to react if you don't give me

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Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is if I, if you do

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Speaker 1: Now I have issue to say. Now, wait a minute.

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Speaker 2: I thought if I thought we were moving forward, I

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Speaker 2: I would cover my ass. But I also think I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I thought we were good.

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Speaker 4: She may not freak out on you, though, if any.

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Speaker 2: Right, And he doesn't know that because you didn't tell her,

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Speaker 2: So I would have said something.

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Speaker 10: So he wasn't wrong for not being transferred in the

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you what I would have done. Whether I

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Speaker 2: But and you think he's wrong, so that's fair. Thank you, Christina.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry for what happened to you, But onward and upward.

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Speaker 4: Yep, it's more effishing to see girl.

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Speaker 2: Get a couple of ye you will be okay, Christina,

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Speaker 2: have a good day.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but she'll be ready.

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Speaker 2: No she's not ready to hear it. No, she's but

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Speaker 2: that's okay, she's gonna be fined. Uh, Noel, how you

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Speaker 4: How are you?

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Speaker 7: I love you guys so much getting married than you?

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Speaker 2: Are you excited that you're getting married after hearing all

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, because it's strict in his courting room.

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Speaker 2: Well, let me just recap here quickly. And this is

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Speaker 2: They moved past it, went through the process, she forgave him, therapy,

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Speaker 2: she cancels the wedding. I'm saying, that's not I don't

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Speaker 2: think that's fair to him if in fact, we truly

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Speaker 1: Noel, what say you?

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Speaker 8: Okay, So I'm.

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Speaker 5: Getting married in two months and found out that the

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Speaker 7: Should have told me in the beginning that.

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Speaker 8: You've worked with you And there's the disconnection.

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Speaker 7: Now if he works late at the office or they

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Speaker 8: Trust him again. And I love you, Fred with my whole,

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Speaker 8: entire heart, but no, my reaction is valid.

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Speaker 5: It has you chose to not tell me, and you

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Speaker 5: made this whole fire yourself, like you chose this life.

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Speaker 8: And that's my reaction is because I can't.

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Speaker 2: Trust you any if I don't think this woman coming

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Speaker 2: untrustworthy for not wanting to open that wound again again,

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Speaker 2: what would I do? I would cover my butt and

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Speaker 1: You haven't forgiven me, and we have a different problem.

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Speaker 4: You didn't she didn't just come in your approximity.

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Speaker 3: You didn't just see her at the stoplight, Broy, I

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Speaker 2: I'm just I'm gonna give him the benefit of the

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna give him better death.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna because I don't think. I don't think he

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Speaker 2: I don't think he's out seeking her and communicated with

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Speaker 1: But I don't know. I don't know how we live

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Speaker 1: of did. But here's the term.

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Speaker 4: It's forever.

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Speaker 2: No one's asking you to forget. But we can't just

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Speaker 2: every time you feel like it, Pauline.

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Speaker 12: It just well, I will, but I'm not run to

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Speaker 12: freak out. But I just don't want to be the

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Speaker 12: this really is, Like, Yeah, it might hurt when you

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Speaker 12: tell me. I might throw a fit. I might you know,

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Speaker 12: I might just do. The point is if I forgave you,

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Speaker 12: I'm with you, like, let me work through my emotions,

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Speaker 12: but be honest, just be straight up, like this is

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Speaker 13: Sometimes I feel feels like people are trying to control

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Noel, have a good day. People are blowing

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Speaker 2: me up. Oh I'm so wrong. I'm strong. I told

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Speaker 1: What do you mean he didn't do anything? But see

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Speaker 2: The thing I'm talking about is we've jumped to all

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Speaker 1: Her and was like I'm going to get.

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Speaker 3: You a job.

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Speaker 1: I gotta be next to you every day so I

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Speaker 4: See it's cry He's physically humping you, guys.

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Speaker 1: This is what I mean. You guys.

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Speaker 2: You're saying, you guys are telling me I'm wrong, But

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Speaker 3: You told me the conclusions would not be there because

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Speaker 1: And then Calen's point is true.

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Speaker 2: Is I think he's probably not telling her because of this?

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Speaker 3: Yes, I understand, but no, but that's up to me.

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Speaker 12: You know, I don't care what's fair to you.

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Speaker 2: You guys are saying, you're saying all the things that

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Speaker 1: That's it, Hey, Jill, how you doing it?

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Speaker 2: Hi?

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you. The final sake is they got

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Speaker 1: to move on? What do you think?

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Speaker 10: All right? So, I mean, I'm all about this forgive

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Speaker 10: and forget because I've done it. My ex husband left

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Speaker 10: to her, and I'm happily with someone else. So worked

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Speaker 1: The best good.

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Speaker 10: And I will say I forgave and I forget. And

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Speaker 10: and I said, you know what, I forget. It's okay.

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Speaker 10: He didn't work out Fred. She should have been honest

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Speaker 7: If she's back in his life.

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Speaker 10: In any capacity. Now those terms have changed. She forgave

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Speaker 1: Here's my other question.

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Speaker 10: Sure comes back into the puzzle. You have to communicate

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Speaker 2: I hear all that, and again that's probably what I

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Speaker 2: would do in this situation, what I would do and

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Speaker 2: what and me try me understanding maybe where he's coming

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Speaker 2: from her two different things. But okay, So I come

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Speaker 2: home and I tell you, hey, this woman who is

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Speaker 2: I caused you amens?

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Speaker 1: I did it? She didn't.

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Speaker 2: I mean, she was part of it. But I was

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Speaker 2: married to you. I'm the or I'm with you. I

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Speaker 2: made the commitment to you. I cause you great pain

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Speaker 2: by being with this woman is now is now in

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Speaker 2: my presence every day at my work.

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Speaker 1: What am I putting you?

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Speaker 2: And again, I'm assuming that you're going to dislike that

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Speaker 2: most people would. But now now you get to relive

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Speaker 2: all of that, and for what Because I'm just assuming

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Speaker 2: this guy's not going back there.

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Speaker 1: Now. If he is, we have a whole different problem.

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Speaker 2: But if we forgave him and we trust him, then

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Speaker 2: we're assuming that until we find out otherwise that he

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Speaker 2: is not. But now every day when I go to work,

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Speaker 2: you get to relive this until you don't. And I'm

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Speaker 2: saying that's not fair to her either.

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Speaker 10: No, it isn't. But isn't it worse? Isn't it so

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Speaker 10: much worse that she does go to the holiday party,

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Speaker 10: Like someone said, goes to the holiday party and this

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Speaker 10: person's been working there for almost a year, You at

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Speaker 10: some point found out this person had been sleeping with

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Speaker 10: your partner.

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Speaker 2: But is it worse when you find out he didn't

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Speaker 2: he wasn't doing anything, or.

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Speaker 8: Better, you're back too.

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Speaker 10: He cheated on you behind your back.

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Speaker 2: But we're assuming he's not doing anything now just because

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Speaker 2: she's there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 10: Sure, just because she's there. But it's the sense of

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Speaker 10: betrayal that he's now reignited by withholding the impromation.

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Speaker 1: I hear, I hear all of this.

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Speaker 2: I think he's Dan if he does and Dan Ivy

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Speaker 2: doesn't in this, honestly, i'd probably you know what I'd do,

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Speaker 2: I'd get another job.

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Speaker 1: I quit my damn jo dot Com. I quit my

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Speaker 1: damn job.

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Speaker 10: I'm terrible.

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Speaker 1: I'm moving.

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Speaker 2: I'm here. I work at Wendy's. Now important forget Taco Bell.

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Speaker 2: I've moved on.

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Speaker 1: Jill. Jill, Jill, Jill. I don't work there anymore. We're fine.

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Speaker 7: I quit more important Taco Bell.

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Speaker 9: Here is Jill.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what you say, but have a good day, Jill.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for calling.

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Speaker 9: Love you.

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Speaker 1: I love Jill.

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Speaker 12: Now I'm throwing your hand at the holiday party.

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Speaker 1: We've got shrimp contail. Come on going to the holiday

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Speaker 1: party because I don't work there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, tell me and then now get a

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Speaker 4: job there.

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Speaker 1: Now three of us here down, here we go.