WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: HEL-lo & Goodbye 0:00:03.240 --> 0:00:05.800 The following here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.800 --> 0:00:16.560 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Guys, are you ready 0:00:16.560 --> 0:00:20.400 for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 0:00:20.520 --> 0:00:24.720 Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. 0:00:24.960 --> 0:00:30.080 It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:30.880 --> 0:00:36.400 with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:37.360 --> 0:00:40.720 It is Wednesday, June fifteenth, twenty twenty two, Season eighteen, 0:00:40.720 --> 0:00:44.240 episode number thirteen. Welcome to the latest and the very 0:00:44.360 --> 0:00:48.520 last Cowboys Break before we head to training camp in Oxnard, California, 0:00:48.640 --> 0:00:51.960 later this summer. That'll be late July, so we'll have 0:00:52.200 --> 0:00:54.120 a bit of a month, about a month here to 0:00:54.160 --> 0:00:56.760 be able to relax and get away from football a 0:00:56.800 --> 0:00:59.800 little bit and reset and be ready to kick it 0:00:59.840 --> 0:01:02.280 in high gear when we get to training camp in Oxnard. 0:01:02.680 --> 0:01:05.640 We're gonna recap this offseason. There's so many different things 0:01:05.640 --> 0:01:07.440 that have happened this offseason. I got a lot of 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:10.360 questions for these guys just to give you a full 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:12.600 glimpse of what they think of the offense now of 0:01:12.680 --> 0:01:15.160 the off season. Now that they've Cowboys have gotten through 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:18.760 that and now are looking forward to training camp we're 0:01:18.760 --> 0:01:21.840 gonna start the conversation with Dalton Schultz. There's a lot 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:24.280 of news floating around him. And in the third segment, 0:01:24.319 --> 0:01:27.320 of course, we got a little a little information that 0:01:27.720 --> 0:01:30.440 mister Helman's going to provide a little news update that 0:01:30.480 --> 0:01:34.399 mister Hellman's going to provide for you guys here in 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:36.520 the third segment. And by the way, if you guys 0:01:36.560 --> 0:01:38.800 have any questions, I want to ask some questions about 0:01:38.840 --> 0:01:41.160 the offseason. You'll welcome to that in the third second. 0:01:41.160 --> 0:01:43.520 The numbers eight eight, eight, eight, five, five two two, 0:01:43.680 --> 0:01:47.360 nine to seven. How's everybody doing today? I'm doing wonderful, Derek. 0:01:47.400 --> 0:01:48.840 That was a hell of an intro. I think you've 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:51.800 covered you covered the gamut. I'm getting good at this thing, man, 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:55.720 I really am year seventeen eight. Come on, man, I 0:01:55.800 --> 0:01:57.960 just said, I don't listen what I'm doing. Listen to 0:01:58.000 --> 0:02:02.200 the number. Never are you doing? I got nervous my 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:06.840 anxiety traits. Even though I know what it is, I'm like, oh, 0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:09.800 what is it? Definitely, yeah, it sounds very it sounds 0:02:09.880 --> 0:02:13.600 very ominous. It sounds very ominous. It's not ominous. It's 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:15.760 a good thing. We'll talk about it in the third segment, Nick, 0:02:15.760 --> 0:02:18.320 how you doing it? Great? Stop grimacing over there, smile. 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:22.520 I'm fine. Just wait till this announcement and we'll see 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:27.080 whatever whatever Dave's announcement is. Okay, I take it. I 0:02:27.120 --> 0:02:31.080 actually was. I was you were you were talking about 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:33.800 like going on summer vacation, and I was I was 0:02:33.840 --> 0:02:36.520 thinking to myself like the Cowboys might be beating us 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:39.320 by a step or two, because that's sort of feeling 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:42.520 like this is the most anticlimactic mini camp week then 0:02:42.560 --> 0:02:46.440 I can that I can ever remember, because Mini camp 0:02:46.520 --> 0:02:48.880 is like the payoff of everything. It's like, well, they start, 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:51.000 you know, they're working out in February. Then they get 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:53.000 on the field a little bit, then the ota start 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:56.400 and it's three mandatory practices that are a little more intense. 0:02:57.480 --> 0:03:00.400 They're not here. They're not here today, and now we'll 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:02.600 see about tomorrow. I don't know, but like they did 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:05.120 one day and it sounds like that might be it, 0:03:05.200 --> 0:03:07.080 which I don't blame them at all. I mean, it's 0:03:07.120 --> 0:03:08.600 the off season. I think you're supposed to be smart 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:11.919 about that type of stuff. But so Dalton Schultz was 0:03:11.960 --> 0:03:14.639 here yesterday and then it's just like all right, we're good, 0:03:14.840 --> 0:03:17.360 like this is I don't know why. I just it 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:20.360 feels kind of like, oh, okay, I don't I don't 0:03:20.360 --> 0:03:23.480 know how to explain it. I mean, you know, coaches 0:03:23.560 --> 0:03:27.679 want practices, you know, they they want as much time 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:29.640 as they can. I think this team got docked a 0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:33.760 whole practice for for by the NFL for you know, 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:37.640 not not for you know, violating some of the procedures 0:03:37.640 --> 0:03:40.360 and rules and so so if that's such a huge deal, 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:43.160 I mean I don't understand it. But I mean, you know, 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:46.640 the next practice that I coach in the NFL will 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:48.360 be the first. So I don't know, but I just 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:51.320 feel like, you know, all these restrictions, you would think 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:53.360 that there's a way to to to get them on 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:56.040 the field and do things differently. But you know, we'll 0:03:56.080 --> 0:03:58.680 see those, you know. But when you look at the 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:03.160 practice yesterday, I mean I saw thirty seven flags out there. 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:06.280 It was not a good practice. It was very it 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:09.080 was very ugly in a lot of ways. Just doesn't 0:04:09.120 --> 0:04:12.160 seem you know, if you played basketball and you're shooting 0:04:12.200 --> 0:04:14.120 and right before the game you just brick one and 0:04:14.120 --> 0:04:16.040 they're like, okay, you ready for the game, Like no, no, 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:18.320 let me make one before we start, let me get 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:20.440 this st your practice that you want to just be like, 0:04:20.920 --> 0:04:23.640 we're good here, let's go to Oxnar. Yeah, I've kind 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:27.400 of given up. I'm trying to make it make sense 0:04:27.880 --> 0:04:30.960 because a lot of things that have happened since last year, 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:35.480 towards the end of the year, into this offseason, into yesterday, 0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:41.479 I'm like, why, Like, please someone, what is it that 0:04:41.520 --> 0:04:44.240 I'm not understanding? What is it that I'm not seeing? 0:04:44.320 --> 0:04:49.479 Like I wear glasses but damn sorry, I don't apologize 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:57.919 what we're doing. No, but I'm just it's very frustrating 0:04:58.000 --> 0:05:01.880 because you seriously, I just don't understand it. And sometimes 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:03.640 I'm like, okay, is in my knowledge? Is in my 0:05:03.760 --> 0:05:06.200 lack of knowledge? But then I talk to you guys 0:05:06.200 --> 0:05:08.839 and other people and it's like I feel like everyone 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:12.200 everyone's on the same boat. Like even watching practice yesterday, 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:14.000 it was kind of a joke, to be honest, like 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:18.160 everybody you know so much that were that were good. 0:05:19.279 --> 0:05:23.600 There were moments that were very laughable funny, there were 0:05:23.640 --> 0:05:27.320 others that were impressive. I think some of the rookies 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:31.240 did stand out, and I'm actually very much looking forward 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:34.960 to some of these defensive players heading into training camp. 0:05:35.000 --> 0:05:37.400 They did stand out yesterday for sure, so that was 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:40.520 an exciting part. But going back to Nick's point, it's 0:05:40.560 --> 0:05:44.160 just like certain things just don't don't make sense as 0:05:44.200 --> 0:05:47.560 to why are we not able to go out there today? See, 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:50.440 I'll actually I'll be the nice guy like I don't care. 0:05:50.520 --> 0:05:53.599 I don't care at all. Um, yesterday's practice wasn't great, 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:56.320 but that's not the point of these practices. Like McCarthy 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:58.919 has said it over and over and over again, probably 0:05:59.120 --> 0:06:00.599 because he knows what it looks like when you go 0:06:00.640 --> 0:06:03.640 out there and see it's like they're not they're not 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:07.039 game planning to beat an opponent. They're installing their stuff, 0:06:07.160 --> 0:06:09.200 and that's that's what that looks like. You got a 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:10.920 lot of rookies, You're asking a lot of young guys 0:06:10.960 --> 0:06:13.840 to do things. And then on top of that, they've 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:16.279 they've lost a lot of personnel to injury. I mean, 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:20.320 we haven't seen Jeron Cursor Malie Hooker in the last 0:06:20.360 --> 0:06:24.200 two weeks. Ceedee Lamb is dealing with something, James Washington 0:06:24.240 --> 0:06:26.720 has been dealing with something. Jalen Tilbert just came back. 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:30.880 M Dante Fowler missed last week. He was there yesterday. 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:34.359 But guys have just been in and out of the lineup, 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:36.640 and I look at it and I'm like, okay, we've 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:40.000 installed you call them installs. Each practice you're going over 0:06:40.160 --> 0:06:41.760 part of the scheme that you want to put in, 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:45.120 and you say, all right, we've probably accomplished what we 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:48.440 need to accomplish in terms of does everybody understand what 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:51.599 we want from them when we do start practicing for real? 0:06:52.360 --> 0:06:55.120 And can we just get out of this without anybody 0:06:55.200 --> 0:06:58.160 being seriously hurt? And they're like, yeah, we're good, And 0:06:58.279 --> 0:07:00.200 I mean, I know maybe that doesn't sit well. These 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:03.640 are professional football players. I get it, but I'd rather 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:06.120 get out of the spring with everybody feeling okay and 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:09.800 having a good idea of what they're doing. See that, Yeah, 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:12.320 I mean like that's one of those things that's like 0:07:12.480 --> 0:07:13.960 remember a couple of years ago and it's like they 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:16.920 don't have any preseason games. Were you worried about that? 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:19.440 I mean it was like, well does it really matter? 0:07:19.520 --> 0:07:22.080 But I mean, why have ninety people on the roster 0:07:22.400 --> 0:07:26.160 if you're not going to cater to them? And yes, 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:27.800 they have a lot of guys injured, but I mean 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:34.160 you're taking opportunities away from these young receivers young right, 0:07:34.240 --> 0:07:36.480 could love to have that kind of stuff. So, I mean, 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:40.200 I get it. You know, there's on one side that's 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:42.160 like just get to the games. You know, when you 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:44.160 think about Tyrn Smith, like can we just get to 0:07:44.200 --> 0:07:48.280 the opener and just skip through all this kind of stuff, 0:07:48.440 --> 0:07:50.280 you know, use the cheap code, just get to the 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:54.080 end and whatever. But you know it is important for 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:56.720 some other people. I keep thinking Garrett's line, you know, 0:07:56.800 --> 0:07:59.760 we we're for practice here, you know, yeah, fair, I 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:02.880 mean I haven't heard that since Garrettly, No, I haven't either. Look, 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:04.600 I'm not gonna kill the guy for the process. I'll 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:07.200 never curely kill anybody for the process because ultimately, you 0:08:07.320 --> 0:08:09.960 gotta try new things sometimes and even this may be 0:08:10.040 --> 0:08:12.080 something he just feels like, hey, it might give us 0:08:12.120 --> 0:08:14.280 an advantage over here or advantage over there. Ultimately, what 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:17.360 we're gonna juge him on is come September, the winning 0:08:17.360 --> 0:08:19.520 ball games and are they healthy? And like, those are 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:21.280 the things we're gonna juge him on. So let's wait 0:08:21.320 --> 0:08:23.360 and see. You know, at the end of the day, 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:25.480 he's the one that has to have has to have 0:08:25.520 --> 0:08:27.800 the pulse of his team, and ultimately he's gonna be 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:31.360 held accountable for how that all manifests itself in September, 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:33.680 so that's when we'll judge his job is on the line, 0:08:33.960 --> 0:08:36.640 exactly right, So however you want to do it, I 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:39.480 think that I think that's absolutely right, And so however 0:08:39.559 --> 0:08:42.000 he wants to do it, go for it. But ultimately 0:08:42.000 --> 0:08:43.400 he's got to be accountable, and he's gonna have to 0:08:43.440 --> 0:08:45.400 walk into Jerry's office at the end of next season 0:08:45.520 --> 0:08:47.920 season and justify all of this stuff and what it 0:08:47.960 --> 0:08:50.160 means once you get to the regular season and the postseason. 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:54.600 I wonder how those conversations truly go behind closed doors. 0:08:54.920 --> 0:08:58.640 Like I mean, Jerry is a very open book, but 0:08:58.760 --> 0:09:01.640 he like he can be much more direct in private. 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:03.560 There I was about it, you wouldn't know better than 0:09:03.559 --> 0:09:05.719 anybody sitting I'll just say this, I've been in some 0:09:05.760 --> 0:09:08.920 meetings where I was very happy I was not on 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:11.200 the other end of some of the things he was saying, 0:09:11.200 --> 0:09:14.839 Like he's a very direct person and holds people accountable, 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:17.199 which and I'm guessing the football coach will probably held 0:09:17.200 --> 0:09:20.160 more accountable than say, you know, whoever else is in 0:09:20.240 --> 0:09:22.959 charge of whatever other department in this organization. I would 0:09:23.000 --> 0:09:26.000 just love to hear that. You know. Mike is like, yeah, 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:28.600 we're gonna we're gonna do like a team activity on Wednesday, 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:31.400 just kind of whind this thing down. We don't need 0:09:31.520 --> 0:09:35.040 all of these practices. And Jerry's just like, Okay, that's 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:37.600 what she wanted to. Don't think I'll forget about that. 0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:40.280 Exactly right, That's exactly right. All right. Let's talk about 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:43.800 Dalton Schultz. Um. He was out of OTA's last week, 0:09:44.320 --> 0:09:46.920 and it was obviously he was. He's trying to make 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:50.040 a point. He wants a new deal. Um and Cowboys, 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:52.640 I don't know that they've necessarily I think they're obviously 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:56.400 they're negotiating. UM. My question for you guys is how 0:09:56.440 --> 0:09:58.400 important is this to the Cowboys. I mean, I know 0:09:58.520 --> 0:10:01.680 Dalton wants the new deal. Cowboys have him under franchise tag. 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:04.000 They don't necessarily, I don't think, have to do anything. 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:06.400 But is this something that's kind of important to them 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:08.600 for other reasons where maybe they feel like it helps 0:10:08.640 --> 0:10:12.240 them to get a deal done. I think there's always 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:15.200 I mean, let's let's I think we all agree, Like, 0:10:15.320 --> 0:10:18.600 you know, Dalton Schultz is not Travis Kelsey, He's not 0:10:18.640 --> 0:10:23.280 George Kittle, Um, I know, shocking analysis, right, keep going though, 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:27.920 what do you like? Who's okay those two? No? I mean, 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:29.880 and that's and that's a fair point. That is a 0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:32.440 fair point. Yeah, that is a completely fair point. And 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:36.280 I think that's probably Dalton Schultz's point. I don't think 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:38.800 Dalton Schultz would try to argue that he's those guys, 0:10:38.800 --> 0:10:41.320 but he's like, keep going down the list and see 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:43.000 where you think I fall. I bet it's higher than 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:46.120 you probably give it credit for it. Um. I don't 0:10:46.160 --> 0:10:48.440 think the Cowboys need to do anything if they don't 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:52.679 want to, But um, I do think you have to 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:56.880 consider that that conversation of like, well, you know, you 0:10:56.920 --> 0:10:59.160 want to give young guys the idea that the organization 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:01.640 is going to do right by them, like Dalton Schultz is, 0:11:02.360 --> 0:11:04.800 he's a model player. He's gotten better every year that 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:07.800 he's been here, right kind of guy. As long as 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:11.480 we're bringing up old Jason Garrett is MS and yet 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:14.560 like it's good for an organization and reward guys like 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:16.440 that because the other guys see it, you know, and 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:18.440 you don't want everybody thinking like as soon as it's 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:20.520 time to pay me, they're gonna start acting like Jerks, 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:23.920 So in that regard, I am looking at the list. Now, 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:28.080 Mark Andrews probably better than Dalton Schultz. But just for 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:31.280 the record, he was sixth last yard last year in yards, 0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:34.880 he's among tight ends. He was third in receptions, and 0:11:34.920 --> 0:11:37.679 he was fourth in tight touchdowns. So he's right up there, 0:11:37.760 --> 0:11:40.559 top five in almost every category. I'll go as I 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:47.000 think Kittle, Kelsey, Mark Andrews, m Darren Waller. Then I 0:11:47.040 --> 0:11:49.840 mean Kyle Pitts is bit. You probably put him above him. 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:51.480 But you don't even need to worry about Kyle Pitts. 0:11:51.480 --> 0:11:53.559 He can't even negotiate a new deal for two years, 0:11:53.559 --> 0:11:55.960 so that's not even important at But then after like 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:58.840 after four or five guys, you're like, yep, that's okay. 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:02.560 And so I think the Cowboys would probably love to 0:12:02.559 --> 0:12:04.079 sign him to I think they would be willing to 0:12:04.080 --> 0:12:06.120 sign for that type of deal. Okay, he willing to 0:12:06.120 --> 0:12:08.680 play ball, it's he willing to accept that. So let's 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:11.480 put some numbers to Jeff something new. Well, go ahead, 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:13.079 I was gonna say, let's put some numbers to it. 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:14.840 You have David and Joke who just got his new 0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:17.680 deal from Cleveland. Listen to these numbers and then I 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:19.480 want you to tell me if you would do this 0:12:19.559 --> 0:12:22.560 deal or would you have to be less than this 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:25.480 in order to make it work? Four years fifty four 0:12:25.520 --> 0:12:28.920 point seven five millions what he got thirteen point seven 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:32.600 millions is the average per year, and twenty eight million guaranteed. 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:34.920 Would you be willing to give Dalton Schultz that deal? No, 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:37.920 I'm not doing that that me personally, I'm not. I 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:41.080 want to wait one more year with him. I want 0:12:41.080 --> 0:12:42.960 to see what it's like. I mean when they don't 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:45.800 I mean because they had He's always played with at 0:12:45.880 --> 0:12:48.800 least two really good receivers on the outside and a 0:12:48.880 --> 0:12:52.600 running game that's been really pretty good. Let's see what 0:12:52.640 --> 0:12:54.360 happens when he's a little bit more of the focal 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:57.120 point and is he you know, I'm not saying the 0:12:57.200 --> 0:13:00.440 numbers are hollow, but I'm just saying they haven't led 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:03.160 to a lot of on field success. I'd like to 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:04.960 see it one more year. I think the Cowboys should 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:07.240 do that. And I don't think they should get involved 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:10.880 with what you know, other teams are doing with their guys. 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:13.000 I mean, they know what they've got to do. They've 0:13:13.000 --> 0:13:15.520 got a quarterback making you know, forty million a year. 0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:18.079 They've got a corner and a linebacker that's going to 0:13:18.120 --> 0:13:19.839 be needing some big money here in a couple of 0:13:19.880 --> 0:13:22.120 years too. So I don't think I would do that. 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:24.920 I'd make him prove it one more year. My question 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:28.160 with that is, like, is the personnel around Dalton Schultz 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:30.400 gonna change? I mean, Ceedee Lamb's going to be here, 0:13:30.520 --> 0:13:34.959 Michael Gallup just resigned. Das here, They just drafted Jayalen Tilber, 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:37.640 who everybody feels great about, like a DA Dak Prescott 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:40.000 is here, and we'll see what happens with Zeke. But 0:13:40.040 --> 0:13:41.920 like they're going to invest in the running game one 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:43.880 way or the other. If they have to cut Zeke 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:46.440 or whatever they wind up doing, they'll get somebody in there. 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:49.840 What I guess what I'm really saying is is this year, 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:52.920 I think defenses are going to probably I wouldn't say 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:55.240 game plan, but they might give him a little bit 0:13:55.280 --> 0:13:58.440 more attention. How does he handle that? If he handles 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:01.800 that and still is you know, the same type of numbers, 0:14:01.840 --> 0:14:03.559 then I think that that's a good sign. But if 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:05.520 it's you know, I think we all look at it 0:14:05.600 --> 0:14:07.960 like he's kind of been the security blanky guy catches 0:14:08.040 --> 0:14:10.200 underneath bad turns up field, you know, makes plays and 0:14:10.240 --> 0:14:13.280 there's that's good. But I think I want to see 0:14:13.280 --> 0:14:15.040 what happens when he's a little bit more of the 0:14:15.080 --> 0:14:17.720 focal point and if he handles that and still has 0:14:17.760 --> 0:14:20.520 the success, then I think, you know, now, if that happens, 0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:22.800 that's three years in a row of really good numbers 0:14:22.960 --> 0:14:25.320 and then fourteen that that price tag is not gonna 0:14:26.000 --> 0:14:29.000 you're that's the risk that you tell. Yeah, and that's 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:32.520 that's the problems. And you know, they bet on Tyrone 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:35.160 Crawford a long time ago and they were wrong. And 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:38.040 that's that's a tough bet to make because defensive tackles, 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:41.440 I mean, other than Aaron Donald light in that Tyrone, 0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:45.040 I mean I love Tyrone, but like whatever forty five 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:47.640 million dollar contract, like he didn't play up to what 0:14:47.680 --> 0:14:51.000 they were banking on. Um, it's hard to get sacks 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:54.240 as a defensive tackle unless you're Aaron Donald. Like, you know, 0:14:54.360 --> 0:14:56.280 six seven in a season is amazing, that's what you're 0:14:56.280 --> 0:14:57.920 hoping for. They also didn't know what they were doing 0:14:57.920 --> 0:14:59.880 with him, like he was all over the map defensive tackle. 0:14:59.880 --> 0:15:02.320 To the point that I'm making is like, as long 0:15:02.360 --> 0:15:04.320 as Dalton Schultz is healthy, his numbers are gonna be 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:06.120 good even if he is the focal point, you know. 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:09.080 I mean, he's gonna have six hundred seven hundred eight 0:15:09.120 --> 0:15:10.920 hundre like he's going to have that type of production 0:15:10.960 --> 0:15:13.440 as long as he's in the lineup just because he's 0:15:13.480 --> 0:15:15.720 the guy, and you can't you know, they're not going 0:15:15.760 --> 0:15:18.000 to triple team him every down when you've got Cede 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:19.840 Lamb and all these other guys to worry about. He's 0:15:19.840 --> 0:15:22.640 gonna produce like it's all. It's a damn near guarantee 0:15:22.640 --> 0:15:25.040 as long as he's healthy. And so the reason I 0:15:25.040 --> 0:15:27.040 say I would do it, I will say I looked 0:15:27.080 --> 0:15:29.520 up David and Joke who's contract after we talked about 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:33.600 this last week. He's they're they're locked in on him 0:15:33.600 --> 0:15:35.600 for three years, like they can't really get away until 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:38.960 twenty twenty five. I would like to structure it a 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:41.680 lot like Amari Cooper's deal, where after two years, you 0:15:41.800 --> 0:15:44.280 like just frontloaded so you can get out from under 0:15:44.320 --> 0:15:46.840 it quickly. Again, like I don't know if he would 0:15:46.840 --> 0:15:49.320 agree to that. That's all, it's above my pay grade, 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:51.480 but I would try to structure it that way. I 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:55.480 would love to sign Dalton Schultz to a deal where 0:15:55.600 --> 0:15:57.920 twenty eight million is guaranteed and it all comes off 0:15:57.920 --> 0:16:00.480 the books immediately. They've got twenty three million cap space 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:03.600 right now, like they could easily do that, and then 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:06.640 after the twenty twenty three season, if you don't feel 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:08.000 good about the deal, you can get him, you can 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:10.160 get away. I would. I would just drafted the gas 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:11.840 so it gives you his time to develop him and 0:16:12.000 --> 0:16:13.400 see if he is the next guy. I think. I 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:15.840 think I said this last week, like two years at 0:16:15.840 --> 0:16:18.480 fourteen million, verse one year at eleven and then a 0:16:18.600 --> 0:16:21.200 very high probability that he will cost much more than 0:16:21.240 --> 0:16:24.080 that next year. I would be happy to do it 0:16:24.320 --> 0:16:26.400 right now, as if he were willing to sign for 0:16:26.440 --> 0:16:28.760 that type of money, like we'll give you fifty bucks 0:16:28.840 --> 0:16:30.840 more than we gave then they gave him Joku just 0:16:30.920 --> 0:16:32.960 so your agent can brag about it and we'll call 0:16:33.000 --> 0:16:34.560 it a day. Like I would be happy to do that. 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:38.280 Would you do to deal? No, not right now, definitely, 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:41.160 I would. I'm unnake with this. I would wait to 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:44.120 see what happens at the end once his tag ends, 0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:46.280 and what he does this year, and then reassess the 0:16:46.360 --> 0:16:49.840 situations and the Cowboys are experts, are playing on their 0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:52.880 own time, doing the deals on their own time and waiting. 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:56.280 I don't think that Dalton is really creating any pressure 0:16:56.520 --> 0:17:01.800 on the Cowboys at this point. And also, oh my god, 0:17:01.880 --> 0:17:04.440 I just blinked out. I was gonna say something about him, 0:17:04.600 --> 0:17:07.439 Oh that you know how it always happens that you 0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:10.160 give a deal to a guy and then oh, now 0:17:10.240 --> 0:17:13.760 they don't reflect what that money like. They're not supporting 0:17:13.800 --> 0:17:15.680 and backing up the kind of money that they're making. 0:17:16.320 --> 0:17:19.480 And I don't want to be extremely overcritical on Dalton 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:21.520 Schultz because I think he has done a good job. 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:23.800 I was ready to get rid of him several years ago, 0:17:23.880 --> 0:17:26.679 but he impressed me and everybody, I think, in the 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:30.200 way that he progressed and took charge once he took 0:17:30.240 --> 0:17:34.400 the step into the starting role. But I'm pretty convinced 0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:36.800 that it would be one of those type of like, yeah, 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:39.919 they paid him a deal and then now everybody's just 0:17:41.040 --> 0:17:44.640 criticizing him. He's not playing up to that kind of deal. 0:17:44.720 --> 0:17:47.600 And I just feel like it would be one of 0:17:47.640 --> 0:17:50.040 those decisions that I would be sitting here being like, 0:17:50.200 --> 0:17:52.160 what the heck, Like, why did the go always give 0:17:52.200 --> 0:17:57.360 that Dalton is not doing much. Again, I'm just creating 0:17:57.359 --> 0:17:59.240 a story in my head. But that's just kind of 0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:01.320 how I see right now. I just need to see 0:18:01.359 --> 0:18:04.119 another more year and then we talk. Yeah, and I 0:18:04.160 --> 0:18:07.879 think ultimately Cowboys power seventeen million a year, y'all are 0:18:07.920 --> 0:18:09.679 not going to be very happy, right, Cowboys have the 0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:14.320 power at this point. But it flips who we're coming 0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:18.200 with the riddle he learned how to blog better this year. 0:18:18.440 --> 0:18:20.359 That's the thing. I mean, you got to look for 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:24.080 a complete tight end, not just half tight end. Well, 0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:25.639 but you know that's also part of the point, like 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:27.600 you started looking around these names we were just throwing 0:18:27.640 --> 0:18:29.879 out there aren't a lot of complete tight ends and 0:18:29.920 --> 0:18:32.359 INNI melody, Yeah, that's there, really isn't. It's just not 0:18:32.480 --> 0:18:36.320 that changed. The game has changed. It's not you're not 0:18:36.359 --> 0:18:38.679 finding those guys as much anymore. You're they're coming in 0:18:38.720 --> 0:18:41.600 with guys like cal Pitts. Cole Pitts is a pass catcher. 0:18:41.720 --> 0:18:43.440 Let's be real. He is a wide receiver, has a 0:18:43.480 --> 0:18:44.960 big body, so you can put him at tight end. 0:18:45.040 --> 0:18:47.919 That's what he is. I'll offer the hot take that 0:18:49.119 --> 0:18:51.600 Dalton Schultz is not an amazing blocker. I don't think 0:18:51.640 --> 0:18:54.119 he's the garbage that a lot of people portray him 0:18:54.160 --> 0:18:57.720 to be. I think he struggles in space against better athletes, 0:18:58.119 --> 0:19:00.840 and that's when you notice it. You know, if it's 0:19:00.880 --> 0:19:03.600 like he's got to seal the edge because he's the 0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:06.480 last guy in space and and sometimes he doesn't do it. 0:19:06.520 --> 0:19:08.760 And of course like that he needs to do that 0:19:08.800 --> 0:19:10.560 type of stuff. I get it. But like I think 0:19:11.160 --> 0:19:14.720 his shortcomings get highlighted because they are they're big moments, 0:19:14.800 --> 0:19:16.320 Like you know, when you ask him to get on 0:19:16.359 --> 0:19:19.080 the line and chip the end or double team, like 0:19:19.119 --> 0:19:21.240 he can do that stuff. He's not awful at it. 0:19:21.240 --> 0:19:24.080 It's the big But then there are those snapshot moments 0:19:24.080 --> 0:19:26.520 which ironically it was Jarwin that missed the block on 0:19:26.640 --> 0:19:31.000