WEBVTT - Season 07 Episode 11: Through the Looking Glass

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<v Speaker 1>Please note this episode contains disturbing reports of child murder

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<v Speaker 1>and sexual abuse. Parental discretion is advised. March tenth, nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eight, was a bright and crisp Saturday morning in

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<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles. In Mount Washington, a suburban neighborhood tucked into

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<v Speaker 1>the hills northeast of the city. Kids rode bikes along

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<v Speaker 1>neat sidewalks and played kickball in their front yards, but

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<v Speaker 1>nine year old Walter Collins was restless. It spent all

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<v Speaker 1>week looking forward to Saturday, the day when he got

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<v Speaker 1>to do his favorite thing in the entire world. Walter

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<v Speaker 1>loved movies, and every Saturday afternoon he went to see

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<v Speaker 1>whatever was playing at the local theater. Sometimes his mum, Christine,

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<v Speaker 1>would go with him, but that day Christine was tired.

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<v Speaker 1>She was a single mother working long hours at a

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<v Speaker 1>telephone company to support herself and her son, and she

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<v Speaker 1>desperately needed a rest, so she gave Walter a dime

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<v Speaker 1>and sent him off to the pictures. She watched as

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<v Speaker 1>he paddled off down the road just before noon in

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<v Speaker 1>his cordroy suit with a shirt, polished black shoes, and

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<v Speaker 1>a gray cap. Walter liked to dress up for the cinema.

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<v Speaker 1>It was only a short bike ride from the house,

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<v Speaker 1>and the area was safe and sleepy. Parents didn't think

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<v Speaker 1>twice about letting their kids go out alone during the day,

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<v Speaker 1>But when Walter hadn't returned by four p m. Christine

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<v Speaker 1>began to worry. She called round to the houses of

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<v Speaker 1>Walter's friends to see if he'd made a detour on

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<v Speaker 1>his way back from the cinema, but nobody had seen

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<v Speaker 1>him back home. Christine paced back and forth in her

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<v Speaker 1>living room, staring out the window as every worst thought

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<v Speaker 1>raised through her head. After five hours, her son had

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<v Speaker 1>still not turned up. Unable to bear it any longer,

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<v Speaker 1>she called the police and reported her son Walter as missing.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Unexplained and I'm Richard mc lean Smith.

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<v Speaker 1>Walter Collins's disappearance would have been alarming for Christine under

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<v Speaker 1>any circumstances, but that spring there was even more reason

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<v Speaker 1>to be fearful. Just three months earlier, a young man

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<v Speaker 1>walked into Mount Vernon Junior High School in Ali's Lafayette

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<v Speaker 1>Square and introduced himself as mister Cooper. He claimed to

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<v Speaker 1>be an employed joy of local banker Perry Parker, whose

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<v Speaker 1>twelve year old daughter, Marian, attended the school. His instructions,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, were to collect Marian immediately and take her home,

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<v Speaker 1>as her father had suffered a terrible accident. Only Perry

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<v Speaker 1>Parker had suffered no such accident, and he had never

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<v Speaker 1>heard of any mister Cooper. The following day, Parker and

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<v Speaker 1>his wife received a series of ransom notes demanding money

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<v Speaker 1>in exchange for the safe release of their daughter. A

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<v Speaker 1>rendezvous was arranged for two days later, whereupon Perry went

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<v Speaker 1>to meet with the mysterious mister Cooper. When he got there,

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<v Speaker 1>Perry was hugely relieved to find the man waiting for

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<v Speaker 1>him in his car, while his daughter, Marian was clearly

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<v Speaker 1>visible in the seat beside him, staring out at the window.

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<v Speaker 1>Perry was happy to see she was still alive, but oddly,

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<v Speaker 1>when he called out to her, she seemed not to

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<v Speaker 1>register him. Terrified that she'd been drugged, Perry hurriedly bundled

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<v Speaker 1>the money over to the man, who grabbed it, then

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<v Speaker 1>jumped straight back into his car and drove off, but

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<v Speaker 1>not before shoving the young girl out of the vehicle.

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<v Speaker 1>As he sped off, Perry rushed toward his daughter, only

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<v Speaker 1>to be suddenly gripped by a paralyzing horror. Marian's body

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<v Speaker 1>lay still on the road. Her eyes were open, but

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<v Speaker 1>only because they'd been fixed that way with piano wire.

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<v Speaker 1>She'd been dead for some time, and both her arms

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<v Speaker 1>and legs were missing. Her limbs were later found in

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<v Speaker 1>a Lycian park, barely a ten minute drive from Walter

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<v Speaker 1>Collins's home. However, Marion Parker's his murderer was caught a

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<v Speaker 1>few days later and identified as nineteen year old William Hickman.

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<v Speaker 1>After committing what the Los Angeles Times called the most

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<v Speaker 1>horrible crime of the nineteen twenties, he was sentenced to hang.

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<v Speaker 1>But in February of nineteen twenty eight, just as Hickman's

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<v Speaker 1>murder trial was beginning, La Sheriff's deputies found the headless

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<v Speaker 1>body of a teenage boy in a bag left in

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<v Speaker 1>a ditch in Laparuente. He'd been shot through the heart

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<v Speaker 1>and then decapitated. His murderer was very much still on

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<v Speaker 1>the loose. After Christine called nine one one and reported

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<v Speaker 1>while to missing, police officers across the region were given

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<v Speaker 1>his description. A nationwide search was launched, along with an

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<v Speaker 1>appeal to the public for any information over the next

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<v Speaker 1>few weeks, the Los Angeles Police Department received countless tips

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<v Speaker 1>and leads from across the state of California. One person

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<v Speaker 1>claimed to have seen Walter at a gas station in Glendale,

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<v Speaker 1>a suburb of LA. The description was eerie. They said

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<v Speaker 1>that the boy was dead in the backseat of a car,

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<v Speaker 1>wrapped in newspaper like a mummy, with only his head

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<v Speaker 1>peeking out. Others reported that they'd seen Walter in San Francisco,

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<v Speaker 1>more than three hundred miles north of Los Angeles. Walter's father,

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<v Speaker 1>who was serving time in Falsome Prison, wondered if his

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<v Speaker 1>son had been kidnapped by a former inmate with a

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<v Speaker 1>grudge against him. When one lead suggested he might have

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<v Speaker 1>been drowned in LA's Lincoln Park Lake, just south of

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<v Speaker 1>Walter's home, they dragged the whole of it but found nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>Time and again the police came up empty handed, and

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<v Speaker 1>even as the case gathered attention across the US, the

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<v Speaker 1>trail went colder and colder. One bright day in May

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen twenty eight, twelve year old Lewis Winslow and his

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<v Speaker 1>ten year old brother Nelson left their home in Pomona, California,

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<v Speaker 1>just east of La to attend a meeting of a

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<v Speaker 1>local model yacht club, but the boys never came back.

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<v Speaker 1>For two weeks, the police followed all leads again to

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<v Speaker 1>no avail. Then one morning, the boy's family received a

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<v Speaker 1>note in the post, supposedly from the two brothers. It

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<v Speaker 1>was scribbled on a page of a book taken from

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<v Speaker 1>their local library. It made no sense whatsoever. The message

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<v Speaker 1>stated that the boys had apparently gone on a trip

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<v Speaker 1>to Mexico to find gold. A handful of police officers

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<v Speaker 1>were sent to the Mexican border to look out for

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<v Speaker 1>the boys in the hope they might spot them coming

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<v Speaker 1>back into the United States if indeed they were even

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<v Speaker 1>in Mexico in the first place, but they failed to

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<v Speaker 1>find them. The disappearance of the Winslows piled even more

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<v Speaker 1>pressure onto the LAPD to find Walter Collins. All the while,

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<v Speaker 1>the public were growing increasingly scared for the safety of

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<v Speaker 1>their children. They needed answers. For months, the police continued

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<v Speaker 1>in their efforts to unlock the mystery, until finally, in August,

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<v Speaker 1>something extraordinary happened. It was one day in August, while

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<v Speaker 1>walking her beat in DeKalb, Illinois, that local sheriff Helena

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<v Speaker 1>Dolder picked up a young boy who seemed to be

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<v Speaker 1>living on the streets. The boy said little as she

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<v Speaker 1>took him home and let him play with her children

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<v Speaker 1>while she figured out what best to do with him. Then,

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<v Speaker 1>finally the boy began to talk. He was Walter Collins,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, and all he wanted was to go home

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<v Speaker 1>to his mother in Los Angeles. Astonished, Sheriff Dolder quickly

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<v Speaker 1>passed the information on to the LAPD. After months upon

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<v Speaker 1>months of dead ends, it seemed finally the case was solved.

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<v Speaker 1>But better yet, Walter was alive. It's hard to imagine

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<v Speaker 1>just how his mother, Christine must have felt when she

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<v Speaker 1>received the calls that day. She drove faster than she

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<v Speaker 1>ever had in her life to get to the police

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<v Speaker 1>station to confirm Walter's identity. Sheriff Dolda's team in De

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<v Speaker 1>Kalb had sent photos in advance of bringing the boy

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<v Speaker 1>to the city so Christine could confirm it was indeed

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<v Speaker 1>her son. It was just a formality as far as

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<v Speaker 1>she was concerned, just one final hurdle to clear before

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<v Speaker 1>the nightmare could be over. Waiting to meet her at

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<v Speaker 1>the station was Captain Joseph Jones, the head of the

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<v Speaker 1>LAPD's juvenile division. He took her into his office and

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<v Speaker 1>handed her the photographs, unable to suppress the triumphant smile

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<v Speaker 1>that spread across his face. But when Christine looked down

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<v Speaker 1>at the first picture, her face fell. It isn't Walter,

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<v Speaker 1>she said. Sure. He had the same hair, the same dimples,

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<v Speaker 1>and was a similar build, but as far as she

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<v Speaker 1>was concerned, it wasn't him. Captain Jones was stunned. Are

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<v Speaker 1>you sure, he asked her, looking skeptical. Maybe all the

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<v Speaker 1>stress of the last few months had clouded her memory

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<v Speaker 1>of him, He said, Perhaps she should look again, and

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<v Speaker 1>so she did. To lose a child is the worst

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<v Speaker 1>thing that can ever happen to a parent. Christine wanted

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<v Speaker 1>the boy to be Walter. She wanted it more than anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I was wrong, she said, much to Captain Jones's relief. Congratulations,

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<v Speaker 1>he said to her, You've got your son back. Christine

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<v Speaker 1>smiled weakly in return, Yes, she said, I have. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a sweltering August morning when a crowd of reporters

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<v Speaker 1>warmed the LAPD headquarters in downtown Los Angeles, jostling for

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<v Speaker 1>position on the concrete steps. Only a select group of

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<v Speaker 1>media outlets had been given access to go inside the

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<v Speaker 1>building where Christine Collins would soon be reunited with her

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<v Speaker 1>missing son, Walter. Christine hadn't slept at all the night before,

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<v Speaker 1>the image of the boy in the photograph loomed before her.

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<v Speaker 1>Every time she closed her eyes, her mind raised, consumed

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<v Speaker 1>by two completely contradictory thoughts. It wasn't him and it

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<v Speaker 1>had to be him. Now, she stood stiffly in the

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<v Speaker 1>police station hallway, trying not to visibly shake. Then, finally,

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<v Speaker 1>she watched on as a small figure silhouetted in the distance,

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<v Speaker 1>walked towards her, flanked by two police detectives. As the

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<v Speaker 1>boy drew closer, Christine felt dread curling in her stomach again.

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<v Speaker 1>The physical resemblance was undeniable, but he didn't carry himself

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<v Speaker 1>like Walter at all. His gait was stiff, almost formal,

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<v Speaker 1>with none of the energy she associated with her son,

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<v Speaker 1>and when he smiled at her, her chill ran down

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<v Speaker 1>her spine. When she looked into his eyes, all she

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<v Speaker 1>saw was a stranger. Christine looked round at the gathered journalists,

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<v Speaker 1>their pens poised impatiently over their notepads. She knew what

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<v Speaker 1>they were expecting from her. Knew the role she was

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to play, but she wasn't about to lie. She couldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>She looked to Jones and said, loudly and clearly, I'm sorry, Captain,

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<v Speaker 1>I do not think that is my son. Shocked murmurs

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<v Speaker 1>broke out among the gathered reporters, who all began frantically writing,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to take down every detail of this bizarre exchange.

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<v Speaker 1>But Jones didn't seem fazed. He simply continued to smile

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<v Speaker 1>and told her that she was mistaken. The boy standing

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<v Speaker 1>before her was Walter Collins. Beyond the shadow of a doubt.

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<v Speaker 1>Christine was exhausted, both physically and emotionally, wrung out by

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<v Speaker 1>months of terror and by the confusion of the past

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<v Speaker 1>few days, and as she looked around at the police

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<v Speaker 1>and the reporters, she saw only shocked and surprised faces.

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<v Speaker 1>Were some even angry at her, She wondered, did they

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<v Speaker 1>think think she'd gone crazy? Not Able to recognize her

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<v Speaker 1>own son, She looked down at the boy, who'd remained

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<v Speaker 1>still and smiling up at her throughout. He held his

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<v Speaker 1>hand out for her to take it. Could she be wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>she thought, Captain Joan stepped forward, why don't you just

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<v Speaker 1>take him home for a while, try him out, And

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<v Speaker 1>with that, Christine took the boy's hand and led him

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<v Speaker 1>away from the police station and into her car. For

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<v Speaker 1>three weeks, Christine Collins did exactly as Captain Jones had asked.

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<v Speaker 1>The boy slept in Walter's bed, wore Walter's clothes, and

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<v Speaker 1>played with Walter's toys. He was polite and pleasant, well behaved.

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<v Speaker 1>He ate whatever she put in front of him, brushed

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<v Speaker 1>his teeth, and went to bed when she told him to.

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<v Speaker 1>And all that time Christine tried her hardest to believe

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<v Speaker 1>it was Walter, But whenever she asked the boy anything

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<v Speaker 1>about where he'd been or why he'd run away, he

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<v Speaker 1>went quiet. It felt, for the most part that she

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<v Speaker 1>was living in some kind of waking dream or a

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<v Speaker 1>parallel reality. Her house had been painfully empty for months

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<v Speaker 1>in Walter's absence, but the presence of this child was

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<v Speaker 1>even worse than the emptiness. It began to unnerve her.

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<v Speaker 1>After some time, Christine invited a few of her most

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<v Speaker 1>trusted friends into the house to see the boy for themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>Much to her horror, they all agreed with her. The

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<v Speaker 1>boy was not Walter. As much to prove it to

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<v Speaker 1>herself as anything else, Christine procured copies of Walter's dental records.

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<v Speaker 1>It confirmed her worst fears. Walter had had several fillings

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<v Speaker 1>over the years, whereas this boy had none. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>judging by the state of his teeth, he'd never visited

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<v Speaker 1>a dentist in his life, and so three weeks after

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<v Speaker 1>bringing the boy home, Christine took him back to the

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<v Speaker 1>LAPD and brought Walter's dental records with her. In addition,

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<v Speaker 1>Christine took a handful of sworn statements from various people

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<v Speaker 1>in her life who knew Walter, testifying that the boy

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<v Speaker 1>was not him. Once again, Captain Joseph Jones was there

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<v Speaker 1>to meet her, but this time without the smile. As

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<v Speaker 1>he led her into an interrogation room, she felt like

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<v Speaker 1>a criminal. As she laid out her evidence piece by piece,

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<v Speaker 1>Captain Jones's face hardened and the muscles in his neck tensed.

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<v Speaker 1>He wouldn't even look at her as she spoke. When

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<v Speaker 1>she finished, he stayed silent for a long time, then

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<v Speaker 1>finally asked quietly, what are you trying to do? Christine

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<v Speaker 1>didn't understand the question, are you trying to make fools

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<v Speaker 1>out of all of us, he hissed, Or are you

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<v Speaker 1>trying to shirk your duty as a mother and have

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<v Speaker 1>the state provide for your son? You are the most

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<v Speaker 1>cruel hearted woman I've ever known. Christine was stunned into silence.

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<v Speaker 1>Perhaps Captain Joseph Jones genuinely believed what he was saying,

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<v Speaker 1>or perhaps he was so committed to the idea of

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<v Speaker 1>himself as the heroic cop who'd successfully brought Walter Collins

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<v Speaker 1>home that he just wasn't willing to give that away.

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<v Speaker 1>Either way, his mind was made up. You're under arrest,

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<v Speaker 1>he said. Christine blinked, had she heard that correctly? You're insane,

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<v Speaker 1>said Jones, and you belong in the madhouse. Then he

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<v Speaker 1>promptly handcuffed her and told his officers to prepare a car.

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<v Speaker 1>Captain Jones had Christine committed to the Los Angeles County

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<v Speaker 1>General Hospital, where she underwent a battery of cognitive and

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<v Speaker 1>neurological tests. She was given no indication of when or

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<v Speaker 1>if she would ever be released. Based on what Jones

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<v Speaker 1>told them, psychiatric staff at the hospital probably suspected that

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<v Speaker 1>Christine had a psychological condition called capgrass syndrome, which is

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<v Speaker 1>also called the delusion of doubles. The syndrome is an

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<v Speaker 1>extremely rare delusion in which a person believes that a

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<v Speaker 1>loved one has been replaced by a doppel ganger, a

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<v Speaker 1>change link, if you like. It can be a symptom

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<v Speaker 1>of psychiatric illnesses like schizophrenia or schizo effective disorder, and

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<v Speaker 1>can also be caused by brain damage or by neurological

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<v Speaker 1>conditions like Alzheimer's disease. Christine had none of these. With

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<v Speaker 1>Walter Collins's mother out of the way, Captain Jones had

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<v Speaker 1>hoped the issue would quickly disappear. He could maintain that

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<v Speaker 1>she was the problem. But with the supposed Walter now

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<v Speaker 1>back in police custody, things soon began to unravel when

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<v Speaker 1>its colleagues questioned him. At first, he seemed shy, maybe nervous,

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<v Speaker 1>unwilling to answer their questions, But when one officer demanded

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<v Speaker 1>to know directly if his name was Walter, the boy

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<v Speaker 1>finally cracked. No. He said his name was Arthur Hutchins

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<v Speaker 1>and he was from Iowa. He'd made it all up

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<v Speaker 1>like something from a grim's fairy tale. Twelve year old

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<v Speaker 1>Arthur Hutchins had a lot to run away from. After

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<v Speaker 1>his mother's death the year before, he'd been sent to

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<v Speaker 1>live with his emotionally distant father and his stepmother. Their

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<v Speaker 1>house was in an isolated part of Iowa, where Arthur

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<v Speaker 1>had felt cut off from the rest of the world.

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<v Speaker 1>He was miserable and lonely and couldn't see any future

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<v Speaker 1>for himself. So in June of ninetheen twenty eight, he fled.

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<v Speaker 1>He hitched a ride out of the state, ending up

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<v Speaker 1>in Illinois, where he tried to scrape a living through

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<v Speaker 1>odd jobs. It was tough. He worried constantly that his

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<v Speaker 1>father and stepmother would catch him and force him to

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<v Speaker 1>come home. What he needed was a whole new identity.

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<v Speaker 1>One day, when Arthur was at a roadside Dinah, a

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<v Speaker 1>couple stopped him. They asked if he was from California. Confused,

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<v Speaker 1>he said no. The couples shook their heads in astonishment.

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<v Speaker 1>He looked so much like him that boy who went

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<v Speaker 1>missing in La Walter Collins. Arthur was intrigued. Back at

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<v Speaker 1>his father's in Iowa. One of the only things that

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<v Speaker 1>brought him comfort had been watching cowboy movies. He'd sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>fantasized about going to Los Angeles and meeting his favorite

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<v Speaker 1>Western star Tom Mix. Now an opportunity had been dropped

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<v Speaker 1>in his lap, and he knew he had to seize it.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't hesitate, didn't stop to think. So when he

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<v Speaker 1>bumped into Sheriff Elenor Donder, he told her that he

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<v Speaker 1>was Walter Collins, and so the erard began hearing all this.

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<v Speaker 1>Captain Joseph Jones finally had to admit to himself that

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<v Speaker 1>Christine Collins had been right all along. Not only had

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<v Speaker 1>his department failed to bring home her missing son, they

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<v Speaker 1>had treated her like a criminal and put her through

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<v Speaker 1>psychological hell. When she was finally released from the psychiatric

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<v Speaker 1>ward after five days, Christine, still without any news on

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<v Speaker 1>the fate of her real son, was furious. She filed

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<v Speaker 1>a false imprisonment complaint against Jones, his police chief James Davis,

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<v Speaker 1>and the city of Los Angeles. With his career and

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<v Speaker 1>reputation on the brink, Captain Jones was now hell bent

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<v Speaker 1>on finding something, anything, to redeem the bungled Walter Collins investigation.

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<v Speaker 1>They needed a breakthrough and fast. Around the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>when Albert Hutchins ruse was discovered, nineteen year old Jesse

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<v Speaker 1>Clark traveled from her home in Canada to a small

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<v Speaker 1>farm holding in Riverside County, California, about fifty miles east

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<v Speaker 1>of la The land belonged to a mister Northcott, who

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<v Speaker 1>two years previously had bought it up for his then

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen year old son, Gordon. Under the pretext of needing

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<v Speaker 1>help to build a house and a chicken coop, Gordon

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<v Speaker 1>invited his nephew, the then eleven year old Sandford Clerk,

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<v Speaker 1>Jesse's brother, to come and stay with him. Having not

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<v Speaker 1>heard from her brother for a few years, Jesse decided

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<v Speaker 1>to travel down to Riverside County to see if he

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<v Speaker 1>was okay. What Jesse found there shocked her. Her brother,

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<v Speaker 1>Sandford was no longer the bright young boy who'd left

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<v Speaker 1>Canada four years before, and he was clearly terrified of Gordon.

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<v Speaker 1>Late one night, he revealed that Gordon was keeping him

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<v Speaker 1>a prisoner at the ranch and that he'd done unspeakable

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<v Speaker 1>things to him and had also murdered at least four

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<v Speaker 1>boys during his time there. A terrified Jesse returned home

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<v Speaker 1>the following week and immediately contacted US Immigration services were

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<v Speaker 1>sent to the Northcott branch to question Gordon, but When

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<v Speaker 1>he saw them approaching, he fled. He and his mother,

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah Luise, were eventually picked up in Vernon in Western Canada.

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<v Speaker 1>As it transpired, it was all true. Gordon, with the

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<v Speaker 1>help of his mother, had murdered and molested those boys,

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<v Speaker 1>along with possibly sixteen others, including the Winslow brothers and

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<v Speaker 1>the boy whose decapitated body was found in a bag

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<v Speaker 1>in Lapoente, and according to Sanford Clark, he had murdered

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<v Speaker 1>Walter Collins too. Six months on from Walter's disappearance, the

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<v Speaker 1>LAPD finally had a suspect. Now the truth was finally

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<v Speaker 1>out and people understood the full extent of what Christine

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<v Speaker 1>Collins had been put through. The story spread like wildfire,

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<v Speaker 1>drawing outrage across the country. The Police Commission held a

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<v Speaker 1>hearing but ultimately refused to discipline Captain Jones. However, the

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<v Speaker 1>city's Health and Welfare Committee didn't let him off so easily.

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<v Speaker 1>With Christine there to give testimony, backed up by her dentist,

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<v Speaker 1>the committee felt they had no choice but to recommend

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<v Speaker 1>the removal of both Captain Jones and his chief James Davis.

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<v Speaker 1>Both were suspended from the department and Captain Jones was

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<v Speaker 1>ordered to pay eleven thousand dollars in damages to Christine,

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<v Speaker 1>close to two hundred thousand dollars in today's money. But

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<v Speaker 1>what Christine wanted more than anything else was answers. She

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to know what had happened to her son. When

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<v Speaker 1>the police searched the north Cott's chicken farm, they found

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<v Speaker 1>at least two graves containing human remains. They also found

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<v Speaker 1>clothing and possessions belonging to several of Northcott's victims, strongly

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<v Speaker 1>suggesting that the remains were theirs, but they found no

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<v Speaker 1>trace of Walter Collins. In December nineteen twenty eight, Gordon

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<v Speaker 1>Northcott was charged with four counts of murder in a

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<v Speaker 1>spree that became known as the Wineville Chicken Coop murders.

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<v Speaker 1>Walter Collins was among the named victims, but Gordon's mother

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<v Speaker 1>and accomplice, Sarah Louise Northcott, was first to stand trial.

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<v Speaker 1>Much to the surprise of everyone present, she confessed to

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<v Speaker 1>murdering Walter herself with an axe. She claimed that the

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<v Speaker 1>murder took place on March sixteen, six days after Walter

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<v Speaker 1>had gone missing. Everybody was stunned by this admission, not

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<v Speaker 1>least of all Gordon Northcott himself, who called his mother

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<v Speaker 1>crazy when he heard the news, but her confession was

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<v Speaker 1>good enough for the judge who sentenced her to life

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<v Speaker 1>in prison. Two months later, Gordon Northcott was found guilty

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<v Speaker 1>of killing three of the four victims, all except Walter.

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<v Speaker 1>Given the lack of physical evidence and the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah Luise had already confessed to killing Walter, this didn't

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<v Speaker 1>come as a surprise to anyone. On paper, Walter's killer

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<v Speaker 1>had been captured and convicted, but the lack of clarity

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<v Speaker 1>surrounding the Northcott's confessions left a lingering sense of confusion. Christine,

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<v Speaker 1>who'd endured close to a year of agony, was still

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<v Speaker 1>desperate for concrete answers, and so when she received a

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<v Speaker 1>telegram from Gordon Northcott in the fall of nineteen thirty,

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<v Speaker 1>she clung onto every word. Northcott was on death row

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, and his execution was days away. He

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<v Speaker 1>told Christine that if she came to visit him in

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<v Speaker 1>person on the eve of his execution, he would tell

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<v Speaker 1>her the truth about what happened to Walter. Christine didn't hesitate.

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<v Speaker 1>On October twod she arrived at San Quentin Prison and

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<v Speaker 1>was escorted in to see north Cot, but when they

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<v Speaker 1>came face to face, Northcott seemed to lose his nerve.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to see I don't know anything about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm innocent, he pleaded pathetically before being led away. Chris

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<v Speaker 1>Rostein hoped to use the ten thousand dollars that Captain

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<v Speaker 1>Jones was ordered to pay her to continue her search

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<v Speaker 1>for Walter, but he never paid it. Every time he

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<v Speaker 1>was called back to court to explain himself, he simply

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<v Speaker 1>claimed to be broke. To add insult to injury. He

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<v Speaker 1>was soon after reinstated at the LAPD, as was his

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<v Speaker 1>superior chief, James Davis. But some things did change. As

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<v Speaker 1>a resolve to Christine's relentless pursuit of justice after her

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<v Speaker 1>wrongful imprisonment claim, California lawmakers passed a bill that drastically

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<v Speaker 1>limited the police's ability to commit people against their will.

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<v Speaker 1>Much ambiguity and unanswered questions still surrounded the Wineville Chicken

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<v Speaker 1>Coop murders. Five years after Gordon Northcott was hanged, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the boys he was accused of killing turned out

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<v Speaker 1>to be alive. Sadly for Christine, it wasn't Walter. Buoyed

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<v Speaker 1>by this development, However, she never gave up hope that

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<v Speaker 1>her son was alive. She continued to search for him

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<v Speaker 1>write up until the day she died in December nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>sixty four. To this day, no physical trace of Walter

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