1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: Please note this episode contains disturbing reports of child murder 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 1: and sexual abuse. Parental discretion is advised. March tenth, nineteen 3 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: twenty eight, was a bright and crisp Saturday morning in 4 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: Los Angeles. In Mount Washington, a suburban neighborhood tucked into 5 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 1: the hills northeast of the city. Kids rode bikes along 6 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: neat sidewalks and played kickball in their front yards, but 7 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: nine year old Walter Collins was restless. It spent all 8 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: week looking forward to Saturday, the day when he got 9 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: to do his favorite thing in the entire world. Walter 10 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: loved movies, and every Saturday afternoon he went to see 11 00:00:55,920 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: whatever was playing at the local theater. Sometimes his mum, Christine, 12 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: would go with him, but that day Christine was tired. 13 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 1: She was a single mother working long hours at a 14 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 1: telephone company to support herself and her son, and she 15 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: desperately needed a rest, so she gave Walter a dime 16 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: and sent him off to the pictures. She watched as 17 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: he paddled off down the road just before noon in 18 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: his cordroy suit with a shirt, polished black shoes, and 19 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: a gray cap. Walter liked to dress up for the cinema. 20 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: It was only a short bike ride from the house, 21 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: and the area was safe and sleepy. Parents didn't think 22 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:44,919 Speaker 1: twice about letting their kids go out alone during the day, 23 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: But when Walter hadn't returned by four p m. Christine 24 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: began to worry. She called round to the houses of 25 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: Walter's friends to see if he'd made a detour on 26 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: his way back from the cinema, but nobody had seen 27 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: him back home. Christine paced back and forth in her 28 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: living room, staring out the window as every worst thought 29 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 1: raised through her head. After five hours, her son had 30 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: still not turned up. Unable to bear it any longer, 31 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: she called the police and reported her son Walter as missing. 32 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: You're listening to Unexplained and I'm Richard mc lean Smith. 33 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 1: Walter Collins's disappearance would have been alarming for Christine under 34 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: any circumstances, but that spring there was even more reason 35 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: to be fearful. Just three months earlier, a young man 36 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: walked into Mount Vernon Junior High School in Ali's Lafayette 37 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: Square and introduced himself as mister Cooper. He claimed to 38 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 1: be an employed joy of local banker Perry Parker, whose 39 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: twelve year old daughter, Marian, attended the school. His instructions, 40 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: he said, were to collect Marian immediately and take her home, 41 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: as her father had suffered a terrible accident. Only Perry 42 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: Parker had suffered no such accident, and he had never 43 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 1: heard of any mister Cooper. The following day, Parker and 44 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: his wife received a series of ransom notes demanding money 45 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: in exchange for the safe release of their daughter. A 46 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: rendezvous was arranged for two days later, whereupon Perry went 47 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: to meet with the mysterious mister Cooper. When he got there, 48 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: Perry was hugely relieved to find the man waiting for 49 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: him in his car, while his daughter, Marian was clearly 50 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: visible in the seat beside him, staring out at the window. 51 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: Perry was happy to see she was still alive, but oddly, 52 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: when he called out to her, she seemed not to 53 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: register him. Terrified that she'd been drugged, Perry hurriedly bundled 54 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: the money over to the man, who grabbed it, then 55 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: jumped straight back into his car and drove off, but 56 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: not before shoving the young girl out of the vehicle. 57 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: As he sped off, Perry rushed toward his daughter, only 58 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: to be suddenly gripped by a paralyzing horror. Marian's body 59 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: lay still on the road. Her eyes were open, but 60 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: only because they'd been fixed that way with piano wire. 61 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:45,679 Speaker 1: She'd been dead for some time, and both her arms 62 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 1: and legs were missing. Her limbs were later found in 63 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: a Lycian park, barely a ten minute drive from Walter 64 00:04:56,040 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 1: Collins's home. However, Marion Parker's his murderer was caught a 65 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: few days later and identified as nineteen year old William Hickman. 66 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 1: After committing what the Los Angeles Times called the most 67 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 1: horrible crime of the nineteen twenties, he was sentenced to hang. 68 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 1: But in February of nineteen twenty eight, just as Hickman's 69 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: murder trial was beginning, La Sheriff's deputies found the headless 70 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 1: body of a teenage boy in a bag left in 71 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: a ditch in Laparuente. He'd been shot through the heart 72 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: and then decapitated. His murderer was very much still on 73 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: the loose. After Christine called nine one one and reported 74 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: while to missing, police officers across the region were given 75 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: his description. A nationwide search was launched, along with an 76 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: appeal to the public for any information over the next 77 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: few weeks, the Los Angeles Police Department received countless tips 78 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: and leads from across the state of California. One person 79 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 1: claimed to have seen Walter at a gas station in Glendale, 80 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 1: a suburb of LA. The description was eerie. They said 81 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: that the boy was dead in the backseat of a car, 82 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 1: wrapped in newspaper like a mummy, with only his head 83 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: peeking out. Others reported that they'd seen Walter in San Francisco, 84 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 1: more than three hundred miles north of Los Angeles. Walter's father, 85 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: who was serving time in Falsome Prison, wondered if his 86 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: son had been kidnapped by a former inmate with a 87 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: grudge against him. When one lead suggested he might have 88 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 1: been drowned in LA's Lincoln Park Lake, just south of 89 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: Walter's home, they dragged the whole of it but found nothing. 90 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 1: Time and again the police came up empty handed, and 91 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: even as the case gathered attention across the US, the 92 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:17,239 Speaker 1: trail went colder and colder. One bright day in May 93 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: nineteen twenty eight, twelve year old Lewis Winslow and his 94 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: ten year old brother Nelson left their home in Pomona, California, 95 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: just east of La to attend a meeting of a 96 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: local model yacht club, but the boys never came back. 97 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: For two weeks, the police followed all leads again to 98 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: no avail. Then one morning, the boy's family received a 99 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: note in the post, supposedly from the two brothers. It 100 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: was scribbled on a page of a book taken from 101 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: their local library. It made no sense whatsoever. The message 102 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: stated that the boys had apparently gone on a trip 103 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: to Mexico to find gold. A handful of police officers 104 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: were sent to the Mexican border to look out for 105 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: the boys in the hope they might spot them coming 106 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: back into the United States if indeed they were even 107 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: in Mexico in the first place, but they failed to 108 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: find them. The disappearance of the Winslows piled even more 109 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: pressure onto the LAPD to find Walter Collins. All the while, 110 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: the public were growing increasingly scared for the safety of 111 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: their children. They needed answers. For months, the police continued 112 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: in their efforts to unlock the mystery, until finally, in August, 113 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: something extraordinary happened. It was one day in August, while 114 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: walking her beat in DeKalb, Illinois, that local sheriff Helena 115 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: Dolder picked up a young boy who seemed to be 116 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 1: living on the streets. The boy said little as she 117 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: took him home and let him play with her children 118 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: while she figured out what best to do with him. Then, 119 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: finally the boy began to talk. He was Walter Collins, 120 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: he said, and all he wanted was to go home 121 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 1: to his mother in Los Angeles. Astonished, Sheriff Dolder quickly 122 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: passed the information on to the LAPD. After months upon 123 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 1: months of dead ends, it seemed finally the case was solved. 124 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: But better yet, Walter was alive. It's hard to imagine 125 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 1: just how his mother, Christine must have felt when she 126 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: received the calls that day. She drove faster than she 127 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: ever had in her life to get to the police 128 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: station to confirm Walter's identity. Sheriff Dolda's team in De 129 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: Kalb had sent photos in advance of bringing the boy 130 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: to the city so Christine could confirm it was indeed 131 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: her son. It was just a formality as far as 132 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: she was concerned, just one final hurdle to clear before 133 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: the nightmare could be over. Waiting to meet her at 134 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: the station was Captain Joseph Jones, the head of the 135 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: LAPD's juvenile division. He took her into his office and 136 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: handed her the photographs, unable to suppress the triumphant smile 137 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: that spread across his face. But when Christine looked down 138 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 1: at the first picture, her face fell. It isn't Walter, 139 00:10:55,720 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: she said. Sure. He had the same hair, the same dimples, 140 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 1: and was a similar build, but as far as she 141 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: was concerned, it wasn't him. Captain Jones was stunned. Are 142 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 1: you sure, he asked her, looking skeptical. Maybe all the 143 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: stress of the last few months had clouded her memory 144 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: of him, He said, Perhaps she should look again, and 145 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: so she did. To lose a child is the worst 146 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: thing that can ever happen to a parent. Christine wanted 147 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: the boy to be Walter. She wanted it more than anything. 148 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: Maybe I was wrong, she said, much to Captain Jones's relief. Congratulations, 149 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: he said to her, You've got your son back. Christine 150 00:11:53,440 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 1: smiled weakly in return, Yes, she said, I have. It 151 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 1: was a sweltering August morning when a crowd of reporters 152 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 1: warmed the LAPD headquarters in downtown Los Angeles, jostling for 153 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: position on the concrete steps. Only a select group of 154 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: media outlets had been given access to go inside the 155 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: building where Christine Collins would soon be reunited with her 156 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: missing son, Walter. Christine hadn't slept at all the night before, 157 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: the image of the boy in the photograph loomed before her. 158 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: Every time she closed her eyes, her mind raised, consumed 159 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: by two completely contradictory thoughts. It wasn't him and it 160 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: had to be him. Now, she stood stiffly in the 161 00:12:55,640 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: police station hallway, trying not to visibly shake. Then, finally, 162 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: she watched on as a small figure silhouetted in the distance, 163 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: walked towards her, flanked by two police detectives. As the 164 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 1: boy drew closer, Christine felt dread curling in her stomach again. 165 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: The physical resemblance was undeniable, but he didn't carry himself 166 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: like Walter at all. His gait was stiff, almost formal, 167 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: with none of the energy she associated with her son, 168 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 1: and when he smiled at her, her chill ran down 169 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: her spine. When she looked into his eyes, all she 170 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: saw was a stranger. Christine looked round at the gathered journalists, 171 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: their pens poised impatiently over their notepads. She knew what 172 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 1: they were expecting from her. Knew the role she was 173 00:13:55,080 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: supposed to play, but she wasn't about to lie. She couldn't. 174 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 1: She looked to Jones and said, loudly and clearly, I'm sorry, Captain, 175 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 1: I do not think that is my son. Shocked murmurs 176 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: broke out among the gathered reporters, who all began frantically writing, 177 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: trying to take down every detail of this bizarre exchange. 178 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: But Jones didn't seem fazed. He simply continued to smile 179 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: and told her that she was mistaken. The boy standing 180 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: before her was Walter Collins. Beyond the shadow of a doubt. 181 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: Christine was exhausted, both physically and emotionally, wrung out by 182 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: months of terror and by the confusion of the past 183 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: few days, and as she looked around at the police 184 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: and the reporters, she saw only shocked and surprised faces. 185 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: Were some even angry at her, She wondered, did they 186 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: think think she'd gone crazy? Not Able to recognize her 187 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: own son, She looked down at the boy, who'd remained 188 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: still and smiling up at her throughout. He held his 189 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: hand out for her to take it. Could she be wrong, 190 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: she thought, Captain Joan stepped forward, why don't you just 191 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: take him home for a while, try him out, And 192 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: with that, Christine took the boy's hand and led him 193 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: away from the police station and into her car. For 194 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: three weeks, Christine Collins did exactly as Captain Jones had asked. 195 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: The boy slept in Walter's bed, wore Walter's clothes, and 196 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: played with Walter's toys. He was polite and pleasant, well behaved. 197 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: He ate whatever she put in front of him, brushed 198 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: his teeth, and went to bed when she told him to. 199 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: And all that time Christine tried her hardest to believe 200 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: it was Walter, But whenever she asked the boy anything 201 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: about where he'd been or why he'd run away, he 202 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: went quiet. It felt, for the most part that she 203 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: was living in some kind of waking dream or a 204 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: parallel reality. Her house had been painfully empty for months 205 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: in Walter's absence, but the presence of this child was 206 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: even worse than the emptiness. It began to unnerve her. 207 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: After some time, Christine invited a few of her most 208 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: trusted friends into the house to see the boy for themselves. 209 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: Much to her horror, they all agreed with her. The 210 00:16:56,120 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 1: boy was not Walter. As much to prove it to 211 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: herself as anything else, Christine procured copies of Walter's dental records. 212 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: It confirmed her worst fears. Walter had had several fillings 213 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: over the years, whereas this boy had none. In fact, 214 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: judging by the state of his teeth, he'd never visited 215 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: a dentist in his life, and so three weeks after 216 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: bringing the boy home, Christine took him back to the 217 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: LAPD and brought Walter's dental records with her. In addition, 218 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: Christine took a handful of sworn statements from various people 219 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: in her life who knew Walter, testifying that the boy 220 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: was not him. Once again, Captain Joseph Jones was there 221 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: to meet her, but this time without the smile. As 222 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: he led her into an interrogation room, she felt like 223 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: a criminal. As she laid out her evidence piece by piece, 224 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: Captain Jones's face hardened and the muscles in his neck tensed. 225 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: He wouldn't even look at her as she spoke. When 226 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 1: she finished, he stayed silent for a long time, then 227 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: finally asked quietly, what are you trying to do? Christine 228 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: didn't understand the question, are you trying to make fools 229 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: out of all of us, he hissed, Or are you 230 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: trying to shirk your duty as a mother and have 231 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 1: the state provide for your son? You are the most 232 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 1: cruel hearted woman I've ever known. Christine was stunned into silence. 233 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: Perhaps Captain Joseph Jones genuinely believed what he was saying, 234 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 1: or perhaps he was so committed to the idea of 235 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: himself as the heroic cop who'd successfully brought Walter Collins 236 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: home that he just wasn't willing to give that away. 237 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 1: Either way, his mind was made up. You're under arrest, 238 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: he said. Christine blinked, had she heard that correctly? You're insane, 239 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 1: said Jones, and you belong in the madhouse. Then he 240 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: promptly handcuffed her and told his officers to prepare a car. 241 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: Captain Jones had Christine committed to the Los Angeles County 242 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: General Hospital, where she underwent a battery of cognitive and 243 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: neurological tests. She was given no indication of when or 244 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: if she would ever be released. Based on what Jones 245 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 1: told them, psychiatric staff at the hospital probably suspected that 246 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: Christine had a psychological condition called capgrass syndrome, which is 247 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: also called the delusion of doubles. The syndrome is an 248 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: extremely rare delusion in which a person believes that a 249 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: loved one has been replaced by a doppel ganger, a 250 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 1: change link, if you like. It can be a symptom 251 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 1: of psychiatric illnesses like schizophrenia or schizo effective disorder, and 252 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 1: can also be caused by brain damage or by neurological 253 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: conditions like Alzheimer's disease. Christine had none of these. With 254 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: Walter Collins's mother out of the way, Captain Jones had 255 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 1: hoped the issue would quickly disappear. He could maintain that 256 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 1: she was the problem. But with the supposed Walter now 257 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: back in police custody, things soon began to unravel when 258 00:20:54,880 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: its colleagues questioned him. At first, he seemed shy, maybe nervous, 259 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 1: unwilling to answer their questions, But when one officer demanded 260 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: to know directly if his name was Walter, the boy 261 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: finally cracked. No. He said his name was Arthur Hutchins 262 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: and he was from Iowa. He'd made it all up 263 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: like something from a grim's fairy tale. Twelve year old 264 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: Arthur Hutchins had a lot to run away from. After 265 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: his mother's death the year before, he'd been sent to 266 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: live with his emotionally distant father and his stepmother. Their 267 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: house was in an isolated part of Iowa, where Arthur 268 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 1: had felt cut off from the rest of the world. 269 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 1: He was miserable and lonely and couldn't see any future 270 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:01,959 Speaker 1: for himself. So in June of ninetheen twenty eight, he fled. 271 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,640 Speaker 1: He hitched a ride out of the state, ending up 272 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: in Illinois, where he tried to scrape a living through 273 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: odd jobs. It was tough. He worried constantly that his 274 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 1: father and stepmother would catch him and force him to 275 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: come home. What he needed was a whole new identity. 276 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: One day, when Arthur was at a roadside Dinah, a 277 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 1: couple stopped him. They asked if he was from California. Confused, 278 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 1: he said no. The couples shook their heads in astonishment. 279 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: He looked so much like him that boy who went 280 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 1: missing in La Walter Collins. Arthur was intrigued. Back at 281 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 1: his father's in Iowa. One of the only things that 282 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 1: brought him comfort had been watching cowboy movies. He'd sometimes 283 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: fantasized about going to Los Angeles and meeting his favorite 284 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:04,959 Speaker 1: Western star Tom Mix. Now an opportunity had been dropped 285 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: in his lap, and he knew he had to seize it. 286 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: He didn't hesitate, didn't stop to think. So when he 287 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: bumped into Sheriff Elenor Donder, he told her that he 288 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 1: was Walter Collins, and so the erard began hearing all this. 289 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:29,679 Speaker 1: Captain Joseph Jones finally had to admit to himself that 290 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 1: Christine Collins had been right all along. Not only had 291 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,880 Speaker 1: his department failed to bring home her missing son, they 292 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 1: had treated her like a criminal and put her through 293 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 1: psychological hell. When she was finally released from the psychiatric 294 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:51,439 Speaker 1: ward after five days, Christine, still without any news on 295 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: the fate of her real son, was furious. She filed 296 00:23:56,040 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: a false imprisonment complaint against Jones, his police chief James Davis, 297 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 1: and the city of Los Angeles. With his career and 298 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: reputation on the brink, Captain Jones was now hell bent 299 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: on finding something, anything, to redeem the bungled Walter Collins investigation. 300 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 1: They needed a breakthrough and fast. Around the same time, 301 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: when Albert Hutchins ruse was discovered, nineteen year old Jesse 302 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: Clark traveled from her home in Canada to a small 303 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 1: farm holding in Riverside County, California, about fifty miles east 304 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 1: of la The land belonged to a mister Northcott, who 305 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 1: two years previously had bought it up for his then 306 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: nineteen year old son, Gordon. Under the pretext of needing 307 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: help to build a house and a chicken coop, Gordon 308 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: invited his nephew, the then eleven year old Sandford Clerk, 309 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: Jesse's brother, to come and stay with him. Having not 310 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 1: heard from her brother for a few years, Jesse decided 311 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: to travel down to Riverside County to see if he 312 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 1: was okay. What Jesse found there shocked her. Her brother, 313 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: Sandford was no longer the bright young boy who'd left 314 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: Canada four years before, and he was clearly terrified of Gordon. 315 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: Late one night, he revealed that Gordon was keeping him 316 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: a prisoner at the ranch and that he'd done unspeakable 317 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: things to him and had also murdered at least four 318 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 1: boys during his time there. A terrified Jesse returned home 319 00:25:53,480 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: the following week and immediately contacted US Immigration services were 320 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: sent to the Northcott branch to question Gordon, but When 321 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 1: he saw them approaching, he fled. He and his mother, 322 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: Sarah Luise, were eventually picked up in Vernon in Western Canada. 323 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: As it transpired, it was all true. Gordon, with the 324 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:25,360 Speaker 1: help of his mother, had murdered and molested those boys, 325 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 1: along with possibly sixteen others, including the Winslow brothers and 326 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: the boy whose decapitated body was found in a bag 327 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 1: in Lapoente, and according to Sanford Clark, he had murdered 328 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: Walter Collins too. Six months on from Walter's disappearance, the 329 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 1: LAPD finally had a suspect. Now the truth was finally 330 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 1: out and people understood the full extent of what Christine 331 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: Collins had been put through. The story spread like wildfire, 332 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 1: drawing outrage across the country. The Police Commission held a 333 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: hearing but ultimately refused to discipline Captain Jones. However, the 334 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 1: city's Health and Welfare Committee didn't let him off so easily. 335 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 1: With Christine there to give testimony, backed up by her dentist, 336 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 1: the committee felt they had no choice but to recommend 337 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: the removal of both Captain Jones and his chief James Davis. 338 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: Both were suspended from the department and Captain Jones was 339 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 1: ordered to pay eleven thousand dollars in damages to Christine, 340 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 1: close to two hundred thousand dollars in today's money. But 341 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: what Christine wanted more than anything else was answers. She 342 00:27:50,960 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: wanted to know what had happened to her son. When 343 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: the police searched the north Cott's chicken farm, they found 344 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 1: at least two graves containing human remains. They also found 345 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:15,360 Speaker 1: clothing and possessions belonging to several of Northcott's victims, strongly 346 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 1: suggesting that the remains were theirs, but they found no 347 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 1: trace of Walter Collins. In December nineteen twenty eight, Gordon 348 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 1: Northcott was charged with four counts of murder in a 349 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 1: spree that became known as the Wineville Chicken Coop murders. 350 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: Walter Collins was among the named victims, but Gordon's mother 351 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: and accomplice, Sarah Louise Northcott, was first to stand trial. 352 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: Much to the surprise of everyone present, she confessed to 353 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: murdering Walter herself with an axe. She claimed that the 354 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 1: murder took place on March sixteen, six days after Walter 355 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 1: had gone missing. Everybody was stunned by this admission, not 356 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: least of all Gordon Northcott himself, who called his mother 357 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: crazy when he heard the news, but her confession was 358 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: good enough for the judge who sentenced her to life 359 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: in prison. Two months later, Gordon Northcott was found guilty 360 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: of killing three of the four victims, all except Walter. 361 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: Given the lack of physical evidence and the fact that 362 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: Sarah Luise had already confessed to killing Walter, this didn't 363 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 1: come as a surprise to anyone. On paper, Walter's killer 364 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: had been captured and convicted, but the lack of clarity 365 00:29:46,840 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: surrounding the Northcott's confessions left a lingering sense of confusion. Christine, 366 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 1: who'd endured close to a year of agony, was still 367 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: desperate for concrete answers, and so when she received a 368 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: telegram from Gordon Northcott in the fall of nineteen thirty, 369 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: she clung onto every word. Northcott was on death row 370 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: at the time, and his execution was days away. He 371 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,959 Speaker 1: told Christine that if she came to visit him in 372 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 1: person on the eve of his execution, he would tell 373 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: her the truth about what happened to Walter. Christine didn't hesitate. 374 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:40,719 Speaker 1: On October twod she arrived at San Quentin Prison and 375 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: was escorted in to see north Cot, but when they 376 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: came face to face, Northcott seemed to lose his nerve. 377 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: I don't want to see I don't know anything about it. 378 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: I'm innocent, he pleaded pathetically before being led away. Chris 379 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: Rostein hoped to use the ten thousand dollars that Captain 380 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: Jones was ordered to pay her to continue her search 381 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 1: for Walter, but he never paid it. Every time he 382 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: was called back to court to explain himself, he simply 383 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: claimed to be broke. To add insult to injury. He 384 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 1: was soon after reinstated at the LAPD, as was his 385 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: superior chief, James Davis. But some things did change. As 386 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 1: a resolve to Christine's relentless pursuit of justice after her 387 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 1: wrongful imprisonment claim, California lawmakers passed a bill that drastically 388 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: limited the police's ability to commit people against their will. 389 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: Much ambiguity and unanswered questions still surrounded the Wineville Chicken 390 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: Coop murders. Five years after Gordon Northcott was hanged, one 391 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: of the boys he was accused of killing turned out 392 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 1: to be alive. Sadly for Christine, it wasn't Walter. Buoyed 393 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 1: by this development, However, she never gave up hope that 394 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: her son was alive. 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