1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, it's worse. Thanks for joining us for another 2 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: bonus episode of Table for two. First off, Happy New Year. 3 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: I'm excited for all the interviews we have coming up 4 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five. We're starting off the year with 5 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 1: a lunch. I recently had a New York City with 6 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: the principal ballet dancer with the New York City Ballet 7 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: from nineteen eighty five to two thousand and six, and 8 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: now the President of Juilliard, Damian Wetzel. I'm looking forward 9 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: to sharing the full interview with you next week, but 10 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 1: for now, I hope you enjoyed this quick and fun 11 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: lightning round. 12 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 2: Okay, so let's star a little quick speed, all right. 13 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 2: Favorite ballet either one you dancing or just one that 14 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:51,319 Speaker 2: you just love. 15 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 3: Man, it's such a tough one because I liked dancing 16 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 3: so much. I loved what I was dancing all the time. 17 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 3: But I will say that my favorite in the end, 18 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 3: I think it probably was The Prodigal Sun, which is 19 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 3: what I retired with. And it's a It's an epic 20 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 3: narrative of strength laid low and sort of a sense 21 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 3: of redemption and journey with extraordinary. 22 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 2: Are your ballets all your ballets. People can go see 23 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 2: if they go to the archives. 24 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 3: You can go to the public library or now you know, 25 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 3: I'm you know a little bit from the black and 26 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 3: white era basically, but there's but there's plenty of stuff online. 27 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 4: You know, our dance belts comfortable. They should be. 28 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 2: Favorite New York thing to do. 29 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 4: Oh wow. 30 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 3: In so many ways, like you know, life is in 31 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 3: the in between moments, you know. So there's walking our 32 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 3: dogs in Riverside Park sometimes feels like literally like this 33 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 3: is where. 34 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 4: This is where I belong. 35 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 3: This is the sense of it. I look out at 36 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 3: the river and there's that. At the same time, I 37 00:01:54,760 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 3: will say, you know, of the moments that really stand 38 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 3: out to me, they are outside. I will say, I 39 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 3: like being outside of New York. I find there something 40 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 3: in nature or a version thereof. We did an outdoor 41 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 3: performance on Lincoln Center this this September, just kind of 42 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 3: all play. Brought some musicians and some singers together and 43 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 3: we did the last movement of Philip blast Is such 44 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 3: a Graha, which is basically a prayer for peace. And 45 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 3: we were surrounded by trees and everybody, you know, people 46 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 3: were walking by with their dogs and it was like, 47 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 3: this is New York. 48 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 4: This is Mines, Yeah, bringing it all together. Yeah. 49 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 3: I remember spending time in Sheep's Meadow in between classes, 50 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 3: and when I wasn't in the library, I'd go to 51 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 3: Sheep's Meadow and hang out. And I remember listening to 52 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 3: Roxy music more than this. I'm just looking around at 53 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 3: the skyline. 54 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 4: From the moment. 55 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 2: I mean that album in and of itself. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 56 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 2: best advice you've received. 57 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 3: I'll tell you what came to mind, and I'm not 58 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 3: sure it's the best, but it's certainly good. 59 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 4: Theater advice. 60 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 3: Jerry Robbins would say to people taking on Prodigal Son, 61 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 3: which he danced famously, if. 62 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 4: You cry, they won't interesting. 63 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 3: And there was some in that that's like an take 64 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 3: yourself so seriously, like be mindful of I can't. It's 65 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 3: it's a contextual note something in that. So I think 66 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 3: about that, and there's so many more, but you know 67 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 3: it's about to me. The best advice is probably get 68 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 3: out of your own head. 69 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 4: Get out to your other people. Yeah, listen to other people. 70 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 71 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, heaven the first thing that comes to mind when 72 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 2: you think of your wife. 73 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 3: First ring left New York State Theater Silhouette, watching a 74 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:33,119 Speaker 3: dance nineteen eighty. 75 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 2: Four, falling in Love Baby. Of the first three position 76 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 2: one learns first, second or third? Which did you feel 77 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 2: more comfortable during. 78 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 4: That second second? 79 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 3: Yes, because I was very turned out from the hips, 80 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 3: not so much from the feet. 81 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 4: Okay, so I had to. 82 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 3: Fake it a little bit in fifth right, perfectly turned 83 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 3: in second seconds here, Yeah, this is the first second second. 84 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 4: We don't really do third more. We're doing it with 85 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 4: our hands. 86 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:03,119 Speaker 1: Yeah. 87 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 2: Just and see did you ever just say fuck it 88 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:09,839 Speaker 2: like a just say? 89 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: It? 90 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 4: Doesn't sound like you did, because it sounds like no, 91 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 4: I'm not much of a fucking person. 92 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 3: I tend to work the problem to death, just like 93 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 3: you know, I often think that that's the you know. 94 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 3: I tend to like, if there's a problem, I like 95 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 3: look at it, and I'm like, how can I fix, 96 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 3: you know, make adjustments. And lately I've actually been thinking 97 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 3: a lot about I need to evolve from that to 98 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 3: some degree, to change the problem, to make to contextualize 99 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 3: that too, and not just fix it because it's like 100 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 3: a little bit like oh, we're on stage or something's 101 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 3: going on, going to fix this right instead of like 102 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 3: looking at the meta of it. 103 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 4: Sometimes because I think that's where the big thing is. 104 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 3: You know, it's like, oh, there's actually the larger problem. 105 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 4: So I'm more and more attuned. 106 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 2: To that biggest pet Peeve And it could be like 107 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 2: for me when I think of pet Peeve's pet Peeve, 108 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 2: like co existing in New York City pet Peeve. Now 109 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 2: when I go to like I go to shows people 110 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 2: an audience, what they do, how they act, what they 111 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 2: eat at the car, you know, anything that what's a 112 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 2: Damien pie? 113 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 3: You know? I walk fast, like so when I'm alone, 114 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 3: it's different than I'm walking you know, with Heather. 115 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 4: With people. But if I'm alone, I just I just 116 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 4: know I need to move. 117 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 2: I always say you could tell them when someone's from 118 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 2: New York and not on how they walk. 119 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 3: And you're like, okay, yeah, growing up in Boston and 120 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 3: it's really cold, you know, you just walk fast, you know, 121 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 3: just like and I love. 122 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 4: To walk, so you know me too. My one of 123 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 4: my goals this. 124 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 2: Year is to walk from one tip to the other. 125 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 4: Chip up, Wow, you're gonna do it. Did you read 126 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 4: al Pacino's biography? No, I haven't got it. 127 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 3: He talks about like major walks. It's a new mettle. 128 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 3: I don't know him, but I want him to come 129 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 3: to Juilliard. Yeah, mister, if you're listening, come and talk. 130 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 2: To us, all right, Damien, thank you so much for 131 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 2: joining me today. 132 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 4: This is a true, true pleasure, really fun. 133 00:05:55,040 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 2: M Thank you for pulling up for share. 134 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 5: I love our lunches and never forget the romance of 135 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 5: a meal. If you enjoy the show, please tell a 136 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 5: friend and rate and review us on Apple Podcasts. 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