WEBVTT - Episode 105: Feat Jackie Christie 0:00:03.720 --> 0:00:06.800 West Epics. Angela yet slip service and the ladies are excited. 0:00:06.920 --> 0:00:12.360 All right, we arep listen, Lurya and g McGuire. We 0:00:12.480 --> 0:00:15.360 got Jackie Christie here with us today from Basketball Wives. 0:00:16.120 --> 0:00:18.200 Thank you so much for having me, Angela. Look at 0:00:18.280 --> 0:00:25.200 Jackie trying to be um. You already know. But before 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:26.920 you got here, we were talking about you when we 0:00:26.920 --> 0:00:29.760 were talking about how nice of us to see somebody 0:00:29.800 --> 0:00:34.880 in a solid marriage, right absolutely, you know, especially on television, 0:00:34.920 --> 0:00:38.320 and somebody that whose husband actually likes having him around. Okay, 0:00:38.479 --> 0:00:43.440 can you guys believe nowadays on the show called Basketball 0:00:43.479 --> 0:00:48.200 Wives or year the only wife? Well, listen, my taking jazz, 0:00:48.240 --> 0:00:52.559 That's not what I meant currently right now, I'm the 0:00:52.600 --> 0:00:56.240 only one Brandy. Brandy's a wife too, But they are 0:00:56.280 --> 0:00:58.440 they back together? Um? You know what they didn't. I 0:00:58.440 --> 0:01:00.560 don't think she the show. I mean, I know she 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:03.920 saw her but in the opening credits, you know she's 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:08.080 not not this or not this season, but eventually maybe. 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:10.640 So how do you keep things fresh? Though? I know 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:12.959 that's a question. I'm sure probably people ask you all 0:01:13.000 --> 0:01:15.400 the time, but how do you keep things fresh? Like? 0:01:15.920 --> 0:01:18.080 I know I hear stories all the time about people 0:01:18.080 --> 0:01:20.880 who are married and they just stop having sex, they're 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:23.760 not interested anymore. How do you make sure that still 0:01:24.360 --> 0:01:27.080 you know what the intimate is. Intimacy is there. That's 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:28.640 why I wrote this book too, because it was to 0:01:28.680 --> 0:01:32.240 help couples and just people looking for a relationship. Intimacy 0:01:32.319 --> 0:01:35.920 is not just about sex. It's also about communication, conversation. 0:01:36.200 --> 0:01:39.200 I want to feel appreciated. You know, from morning tonight. 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:41.880 A woman wants to feel like, you know, she's special 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:43.560 when she wants to feel like she looks good and 0:01:43.600 --> 0:01:45.880 feels good. But if all of a sudden, you're doing 0:01:45.880 --> 0:01:47.440 her all day and then at night you just want 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:50.760 to have sex, it starts making making them feel objectified, 0:01:50.920 --> 0:01:53.880 and you know, the fire starts burning out. They start 0:01:53.880 --> 0:01:56.800 getting bored, they start wanting something else. Then that other 0:01:56.800 --> 0:01:59.240 man comes into their life and compliments them and this 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:01.880 and that, and intimacy starts before you know, and she 0:02:01.880 --> 0:02:08.240 said over him, and then don't let him breathe on 0:02:08.280 --> 0:02:10.000 your neck or something. Next thing, you know, all them 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:12.840 feelings start coming back, and then the sex is the 0:02:12.880 --> 0:02:15.400 bomb because you really want it with your mate, like 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:17.840 you're getting it somewhere else, and you start confusing yourself 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:19.320 with thinking you're in love with that person in the 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:22.079 relationship Falters, do you ever go through like a dry 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:24.120 Did you ever go through a dry spell where y'all 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:27.120 just weren't having sex? I always hear this, but my 0:02:27.160 --> 0:02:30.040 friends have been in long term relationships, like we never 0:02:30.120 --> 0:02:32.720 have sex anymore. You know what, We didn't because we're 0:02:32.760 --> 0:02:35.359 both freaks. We both love to be intimate with each other, 0:02:35.440 --> 0:02:37.800 and we have this thing where we can talk about 0:02:37.840 --> 0:02:40.920 anything and we fantasize too. That's another thing that I 0:02:40.919 --> 0:02:42.880 think couple should do more of, and I talk about 0:02:42.880 --> 0:02:45.720 it in my book as well. It's fantasizing and it 0:02:45.760 --> 0:02:48.400 makes everybody feel like they're not missing anything, you know 0:02:48.440 --> 0:02:49.600 what I mean. You have to be able to be 0:02:49.680 --> 0:02:52.000 open or with your partner and with your maide and 0:02:52.040 --> 0:02:54.680 have respect and trust too. You know, they have to 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:57.160 not want to veer outside of that relationship. But I 0:02:57.160 --> 0:02:59.600 can tell Doug if I find somewhere attractive or this 0:02:59.680 --> 0:03:02.400 and that other, And it's really that intimacy that we 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:05.600 share together that helps us go to another level mentally. 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:08.760 If you're there, the sex is the bomb. So he 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:13.799 doesn't get mad though you're like, oh, I think someone's right. 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:21.320 I want to be that's right, that's right, and you 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:23.600 have to do that, you have to have that open communication. 0:03:23.960 --> 0:03:27.600 But it like okay, because I never really tell, like 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:32.280 my boyfriend, if I find somebody else attractively, I'd be scared. 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:36.360 But I just felt like, that's my time. My girls, 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:39.080 Like I never would tell my boyfriend like he looks good, 0:03:39.280 --> 0:03:42.440 he's a good look guy. Yeah, you know. And people 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:44.520 are surprised because they're like, Jackie, will you picture you 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:47.640 this over protective, you know, jealous type, And I'm like, 0:03:48.040 --> 0:03:50.560 it's not even like that. Like we and we started 0:03:50.680 --> 0:03:52.640 years and years ago. We've been married twenty one year, 0:03:52.800 --> 0:03:55.360 so we right in our first two years of marriage. 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:57.360 We was in Hawaii one time and we were just 0:03:57.360 --> 0:03:59.280 sitting on the couch in the hotel room, chilling and 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:02.000 eating and drinking wine, and we just started talking openly 0:04:02.040 --> 0:04:03.800 about things, and I wanted him to share with me 0:04:03.920 --> 0:04:06.400 his past. What was your best relationship, what was the 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:09.040 best sex, who was it with, Why do you feel 0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:11.080 you felt that way and all of that. We started 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:13.280 our conversations like that and it just developed into being 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:15.839 able to be open about everything, and it just took 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:21.400 us to another level. He was like Dialne Dine. I 0:04:21.480 --> 0:04:23.479 was a little jealous at first because he tells you 0:04:23.520 --> 0:04:25.719 other people, because yeah, if I asked you that question, 0:04:25.720 --> 0:04:29.719 you better saying okay, that's what I'm saying. I felt 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:31.719 like that, but I fought the urge because I was like, 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:33.680 with a man, it's hard enough to get him to 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:36.400 open up. So I didn't let him see it. But 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:39.919 I was kind of like, ouch o her, why But 0:04:40.000 --> 0:04:42.159 then it just it just drove me to be the 0:04:42.200 --> 0:04:46.320 best motivation there it is, I better get on there, 0:04:46.400 --> 0:04:53.240 reverse cowgirl, let me find the top. Now, what about 0:04:54.040 --> 0:04:57.160 him telling you about you know, women that like he's 0:04:57.160 --> 0:05:01.000 she's hot. I would definitely in my younger years if 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:04.000 I was single. No, he he it's a turn off 0:05:04.000 --> 0:05:06.360 for me. Dougs in his forties. We're still young. We're 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:08.799 you know what I'm saying. We just gets it popping. 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:11.840 And if like Halle Berry, he thinks she's beautiful everybody 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:15.080 that's like yeah, but what about somebody attainable like that? 0:05:15.279 --> 0:05:19.440 You know, random that's like a random check. Yeah, it 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:21.200 could be a girl down the street, or if you know, 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:22.720 if I haven't seen him in a couple of days, 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:24.400 say he's gone with the team. Because he travels with 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:26.480 the team right now, And I say, did you see 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:28.839 anybody sexy on the road? Which she looked like, what 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:31.360 was she built? Like that kind of thing. It's interesting 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:34.040 for us, it's intriguing. It's like a different kind of 0:05:34.080 --> 0:05:35.839 release for us. But if he was like, man, I 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:39.000 think Evelyn is so sexy, I would laugh if he 0:05:39.080 --> 0:05:42.000 thought was. But I mean, I'm I'm I'm, you know, 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:44.760 secure enough in myself that I wouldn't worry about Evelyn 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:46.960 too much. But he doesn't get like a hall pass 0:05:47.120 --> 0:05:51.600 or anything that you're like, I don't think he even 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:53.600 wants that, because when you can be open with your 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:57.000 mate and your everything to them, it's like kind of like, man, 0:05:57.680 --> 0:05:59.640 it takes that whole thing out of it. And I 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:01.599 know what he wants, I know what he needs, and 0:06:01.640 --> 0:06:04.200 I'm there to fulfill that and vice versa. So we 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:06.839 kind of we're happy now. I was reading my friend 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:09.920 Laney has been writing for this magazine right she has 0:06:09.920 --> 0:06:12.599 a communist magazine. She's to work at Penthouse, so she 0:06:12.640 --> 0:06:14.480 talks a lot about sex, and she talks about how 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:17.479 masturbating is really good for you, and they say it 0:06:17.520 --> 0:06:19.520 releaves a lot of stress for some guys that can 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:23.120 prevent like colon cancer, all kinds of things. So when 0:06:23.160 --> 0:06:26.160 Doug is not traveling, are you big on masturbating? Definitely? 0:06:26.200 --> 0:06:28.520 We can do that together with each other. That's another 0:06:28.560 --> 0:06:30.880 thing that's very sexy. You know. Yeah, you do that 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:34.640 with each other because it also opens up communication, intimacy. 0:06:35.040 --> 0:06:38.360 You drop all of those shields that we have around us, 0:06:38.480 --> 0:06:40.599 you know what I mean, and you're able to experience 0:06:40.640 --> 0:06:44.520 sex on a higher level. See how often do you 0:06:44.600 --> 0:06:53.400 ladies masturbate? I just read one out now. I'm not 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:57.440 every day, but like regularly. You think it makes sex better? 0:06:58.040 --> 0:07:00.920 I do, really Yeah. I used to do it a 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:04.360 lot and then I just stopped and you got a 0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:08.720 long as it's not about this, I'm not gonna lie. 0:07:08.760 --> 0:07:13.640 I started to feel like a perv, especially spurts, like 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:15.160 when I want to messurate for a lot, a lot, 0:07:15.160 --> 0:07:16.440 a lot, and then I'm just like all right. Only 0:07:16.640 --> 0:07:21.560 I feel so because you masturbate before you have sex, 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:25.360 you know you can, but if you know you about 0:07:26.160 --> 0:07:29.960 TV weather, But I don't want to come before I 0:07:30.000 --> 0:07:33.160 have sex because I feel like, I know this is 0:07:33.240 --> 0:07:36.040 very dutious, but I feel like if I come, I 0:07:36.200 --> 0:07:40.520 kind of like I don't want to have like you're good. Yeah, 0:07:40.640 --> 0:07:44.680 this is my fit right here, lady like you like 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:48.880 warms and you warm it up. We were just talking 0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:53.080 about ladies article about masturbation. Here, you gotta take a 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:55.920 look at this. She has her column in this magazine 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:59.880 strip Lvy Las Vegas Different. This is a nice magazine. 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:04.200 It is wait, I gotta subscribe to this. I like it. Yeah, 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:06.240 this is nice. Yeah, you were, cousin Leaney. I was 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:08.840 talking about some of your previous articles about masturbation and 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:10.960 how masturbation is really good for you. So we were 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:14.120 talking about how frequently met we masturbate, and you've had 0:08:14.160 --> 0:08:18.640 some weird you know, some weird experiences about guys masturbating. 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:20.240 You said, one guy used to like to masturbate with 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:23.200 a vibrator in his but yes, not only that, but 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:28.200 with us, yes, nine volt batteries. He would take a 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:31.440 couple of nine volt batteries, put in a condom, and 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:35.560 then put in his butt while he masturbated. Oh my god, wait, oh, 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:38.079 I thought the batteries are going inside the vibrator the 0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:43.240 oh wait wait I just missed this whole ship, the 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:47.280 vibrator and batteries. Well, there's two separate, you know, and 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:50.880 men do it with vibrators. But I knew somebody who 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:54.760 used nine volt batteries because they give you a shock 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:57.440 of some sort of problems. He said something about the 0:08:57.440 --> 0:09:01.040 heaviness of them that he read in a book that 0:09:01.480 --> 0:09:04.240 it's very pleasant to They shouldn't make you feel like 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:18.920 you got a poops for me? Doge? I agree? But lady, 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:24.160 this is Jackie, Jackie jack from Basketball, Wives and Lany 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:27.080 For a long time, she's worked with Penthouse, yes, okay, 0:09:27.120 --> 0:09:29.400 and so she knows everybody and everything, and she actually 0:09:29.400 --> 0:09:32.600 has um. You guys are both authors, okay, you know 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:36.120 which I love. She's written books about how to ask 0:09:36.160 --> 0:09:40.760 for a threesome, okay, threesome, ro blow jobs, a role 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:44.200 play and uh. And then I wrote a book where 0:09:44.200 --> 0:09:47.839 I interviewed a dozen high end call girls about what 0:09:47.920 --> 0:09:50.240 was their secret? Why do men come back to them 0:09:50.280 --> 0:09:53.200 to pay two thousand dollars an hour? It can just 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:56.800 be sex because they can get that anywhere. So I 0:09:56.880 --> 0:09:59.240 interviewed them about what it is about their what they 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:03.440 offered in other ways than made them come back. Amazing. 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:06.520 I would love to read that book. Yeah. Then obviously 0:10:06.559 --> 0:10:08.800 Jackie has been. She's been married to do Christie. They've 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:11.640 been in a relationship for over twenty one years. That's amazing, 0:10:11.800 --> 0:10:16.520 thank you. And they get married every year. Thank you. 0:10:16.800 --> 0:10:19.559 How many wedding dresses? So you have all those wedding 0:10:19.640 --> 0:10:26.000 dresses though, yeah, every year I get annoy one crazy, 0:10:26.520 --> 0:10:28.240 I'll be like, all right, no more room for this. 0:10:32.720 --> 0:10:35.679 I have boxes of them in stories. That's crazy, Jackie. 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:37.840 Have you ever done role play? You know what I do. 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:42.720 I love doing that. Anything sexual you can experience with 0:10:42.760 --> 0:10:45.000 your mate, I feel like you should do. You only 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:47.320 live once. This is a gift to us, which is 0:10:47.720 --> 0:10:52.520 sexual release, orgasm, sex that that whole exchange and interaction. 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:55.559 I'm down. So you never felt, see like because I've 0:10:55.600 --> 0:10:57.760 never done it and I've always said I was going 0:10:57.840 --> 0:11:00.720 to and whatever, so but like a point you ever 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:02.880 just started laughing and be like what then is going 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:07.400 on here? Because I think that's what I'm scared of, 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:10.040 Like that that person, like the guy would just be 0:11:10.080 --> 0:11:12.840 looking at me like this is not working out and 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:18.120 I'm saying it, and you'll both decide to go and 0:11:18.200 --> 0:11:20.360 do it. I think you'll both get into it enough 0:11:20.400 --> 0:11:22.599 that you just go ahead and go through with it 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:24.439 and like what do you do like put an accent on? 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:26.360 Like how does it work? I mean, you just gotta 0:11:26.400 --> 0:11:28.200 go to out, you got to go with the flow 0:11:28.280 --> 0:11:31.880 or whatever. What's your favorite role um I would have 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:46.440 to probably say a French maide, yeah, or nurse. And 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:49.400 sometimes it's role play. You don't necessarily have to put 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:53.040 on a costume, Like you can be more spontaneous about 0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:56.520 it and just start just start going in the moment 0:11:56.679 --> 0:11:59.120 with what you say. It's about what you say, not 0:11:59.280 --> 0:12:02.840 so much what you're wearing. Yeah, So why do I 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:07.880 think like the costume is the best part, Like it 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:12.559 has to have a costume? Are I know, you're a 0:12:12.600 --> 0:12:17.480 fireman if you don't have a hat. One my friend 0:12:17.559 --> 0:12:20.640 on Twitter alone, she does this advice column thing and 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:23.120 she says, one girl wrote in and she had this 0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:26.680 rape fantasy and she wanted a guy. But I mean, 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:30.959 I know it sounds taboo to say, but if you're 0:12:31.160 --> 0:12:33.840 role playing and this is like the game that you 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:36.000 want to do or whatever, obviously in real life you 0:12:36.000 --> 0:12:39.080 would never want that to happen. But I think there's 0:12:39.080 --> 0:12:41.960 a whole category important about that. Oh. I mean that's 0:12:42.000 --> 0:12:45.000 probably one of the number one fantasies of women, and 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:48.000 it's not about the violence. It's about giving up control. 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:53.800 So it's more because all role plays about dominance and submission. Basically, 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:57.800 those are with all themes, whether it's like doctor patient, um, 0:12:57.920 --> 0:13:04.560 you know, schoolgirl, head master or whatever it is. Yeah, 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:07.760 it's about you know, it's not about anyone getting hurt 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:11.679 per se, but it's about you know, having this handsome 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:15.360 burglar break into your home and instead of burglarizing your home, 0:13:15.480 --> 0:13:23.679 you have sex. Yeah, my burglar is hot. Now. Your 0:13:23.800 --> 0:13:27.559 latest article was about how you used to go on Craigslist. Yes, 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:37.000 and like fun dudes that you met. Yes, yes, it's 0:13:37.000 --> 0:13:42.120 just like we're going back, you know, ten years. That 0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:44.400 seems like said now, that seems like such a scary 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:48.040 thing to do, right, you know, but is that scarier 0:13:48.080 --> 0:13:51.400 than meeting somebody in real life in the club or 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:53.960 in tender to me tender, it's the same thing if 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:56.080 you're gonna I mean, you see it's you know, you 0:13:56.120 --> 0:13:58.320 see his picture you hook up. I mean it was 0:13:58.360 --> 0:14:00.480 the same thing, except it was that she a little 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:03.160 better because you had more time to email each other 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:06.200 back and forth and get a sense if this is 0:14:06.320 --> 0:14:09.640 like a well balanced mental you know person or is 0:14:09.720 --> 0:14:15.560 this can you know all that you know what he 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:18.559 wants to do and stuff? But it definitely yes, is 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:22.320 there's some danger involved? I I don't disagree. That's was 0:14:22.360 --> 0:14:25.000 part of the thrill for me, of course, was like 0:14:25.040 --> 0:14:27.400 not knowing what was going to happen. Did you have 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:29.240 did you have to tell people? Like Okay, I gotta 0:14:29.320 --> 0:14:31.720 let my friends know that I'm going on the State 0:14:32.080 --> 0:14:37.640 be here about the fucking so like what was it? 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:40.440 Just a listen, this happened on insecure? Let's not forget 0:14:40.560 --> 0:14:53.320 do you gust insecure tea? It's oh my god? But 0:14:53.360 --> 0:14:54.920 it actually happened to her on the show, right, she 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:57.560 was on I forget which sight she was doing some 0:14:57.680 --> 0:14:59.600 online dating. It was like a tender kind of thing 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:01.680 and she I had to do a hook up and 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:03.960 she couldn't do it though the first time she couldn't 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:05.960 have sex with the guy. She just felt awkward about it. 0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:08.040 But it it was her first time and it was it 0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:11.040 was what you call a wolf James, right. Remember he's 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:17.840 a singer, Luke James, look James, sorry close enough, that's 0:15:17.840 --> 0:15:20.680 like his Instagram name something see, so I'm not too 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:23.120 far off. It was Luke James and she disked him. 0:15:23.680 --> 0:15:25.600 She said she didn't want to have sex with them 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:31.200 because she felt awkward. Right right to deal with any 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:34.239 of this, You've never deal with any of this online dating. 0:15:34.640 --> 0:15:36.520 You never had to deal with this apps because you've 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:42.760 been married right nine six You guys, I'm lost when 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:44.320 it comes to that. But I do have some friends 0:15:44.320 --> 0:15:47.280 that do that, and I always panicked for him because whew, 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:50.040 do you know you're not gonna go meet this person? 0:15:50.120 --> 0:15:52.560 And luckily they haven't ran into that yet. But I'm 0:15:52.600 --> 0:15:54.920 always nervous for them. But they're like, these guys are 0:15:54.960 --> 0:15:56.960 so hot and da da da. So I guess it 0:15:57.000 --> 0:16:00.680 has a certain level of interestingness to it because it's 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:03.480 you know, fresh, and it's, like she said, spontaneous. But 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:07.440 I don't know, I probably would be nervous. I'm scared 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:11.200 to me. But let's talk about some life experience since 0:16:11.200 --> 0:16:16.120 you've done Sure, Um, they were mostly really great. A 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:18.640 lot of times you asked if I told friends like 0:16:19.080 --> 0:16:22.080 I might BFF new I was doing it, you know, 0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:24.360 but um, A lot of times no, I would like 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:26.720 when I was bored at at Penthouse. Let's say, when 0:16:26.760 --> 0:16:30.240 I was working at Penthouse. Is a slow day. You know, um, 0:16:30.400 --> 0:16:33.240 like people do you go online and I would, you know, 0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:35.920 meet someone and go see them on my lunch hour 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:39.320 for instance, you know, and come back. And most of 0:16:39.400 --> 0:16:43.000 the guys were very good looking, very uh, you know, 0:16:43.320 --> 0:16:47.960 pretty respectful considering um. One time though I was talking. 0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:49.600 You know that One of the tips I'd given the 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:53.240 article is if it's the talking is going on too long, 0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:55.840 like like now a week's gone by and you haven't 0:16:55.880 --> 0:16:58.440 made up, there's usually something that's when something fishy is 0:16:58.480 --> 0:17:01.560 going on. It's not when when some guy says, okay, yeah, 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:04.119 can you meet today, great, let's do Those are usually 0:17:04.200 --> 0:17:06.200 on the level when it's like a week goes by 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:08.879 and like he's still talking to you, and it's the 0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:13.200 conversation is explicit, like he wants the sext or whatever. Um. 0:17:13.359 --> 0:17:15.560 So one guy he's in me his picture. He's a 0:17:15.600 --> 0:17:17.960 good looking guy, but I mean nothing crazy or anything, 0:17:18.040 --> 0:17:21.920 just averagely good looking guy and um, and I didn't 0:17:21.920 --> 0:17:23.879 hear from him, and then I heard from him, and 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:25.600 then finally I was like for this one, I said, 0:17:25.960 --> 0:17:28.080 let's meet a Starbucks. You know, I didn't want to, 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:31.399 you know, invite now over. I said, something's weird and 0:17:31.720 --> 0:17:34.040 I waited, like a half hour went by and I 0:17:34.119 --> 0:17:36.720 was gonna leave, and all of a sudden, I, you 0:17:36.800 --> 0:17:40.159 know this, this guy from India comes up to me. 0:17:40.200 --> 0:17:41.920 When I say from India, I mean like he was 0:17:42.400 --> 0:17:45.479 not like, yeah, he'd been here, he'd hadn't been here 0:17:45.560 --> 0:17:48.520 that long in accent or and he's like, hello, Laney, 0:17:48.720 --> 0:17:51.840 and I said yeah, and he's like it's me, you know. 0:17:52.000 --> 0:17:53.879 And it would have been fine, except that's not the 0:17:54.000 --> 0:17:56.359 picture I got. That's not that they weren't even the 0:17:56.440 --> 0:18:00.359 same race, they weren't the same and and I just 0:18:00.480 --> 0:18:02.680 stared at him and I was like, and I said 0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:06.399 to him, absolutely not. And I just walked out. And 0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:08.760 he think that you would still be okay with it, 0:18:09.040 --> 0:18:12.280 like it's amazing what people think they can pull off. 0:18:12.480 --> 0:18:15.000 Like that's that's probably the worst thing that happened, which, 0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:17.400 you know, it was kind of gross when you think 0:18:17.440 --> 0:18:20.320 about how you've spoken to that person, like, oh, what 0:18:20.440 --> 0:18:23.080 do you winto sexually? What are you want too? You 0:18:23.200 --> 0:18:26.320 got kind of intimate and that After that, I was like, 0:18:26.520 --> 0:18:30.040 don't talk that dirty to anybody at all, because you 0:18:30.200 --> 0:18:32.200 you know, could be some guy just trying to get 0:18:32.240 --> 0:18:35.199 his jollys off or you know whatever, because that did 0:18:35.320 --> 0:18:37.320 feel icky. Like when I got home, I was like, 0:18:37.680 --> 0:18:39.639 I got to take a shower, and like, did you 0:18:39.680 --> 0:18:42.080 have like repeat instances with some of these guys that 0:18:42.160 --> 0:18:45.120 you were meeting or was it always just a one time? Yeah, 0:18:45.320 --> 0:18:47.680 there were some guys that I saw over the first 0:18:47.760 --> 0:18:50.840 guy that I ever hooked up with. UM, I think 0:18:50.920 --> 0:18:54.200 instinctually I decided to look for younger guys, thinking I'd 0:18:54.240 --> 0:18:56.399 have more control when you you know, when I my 0:18:56.600 --> 0:18:58.600 first one, so it was someone who's like ten years 0:18:58.680 --> 0:19:01.600 younger than me, and we had a great time. And 0:19:01.680 --> 0:19:03.880 that's why I think I started kept doing it because 0:19:03.920 --> 0:19:06.159 the first one was so much fun. He was a 0:19:06.240 --> 0:19:09.240 really cool person. He worked in entertainment like I did, 0:19:09.440 --> 0:19:11.440 and you know, you know, we hooked up, and I 0:19:11.480 --> 0:19:13.920 think we hooked up for like six years on and off. 0:19:14.200 --> 0:19:19.920 Like yeah, I mean, I know it's not gonna sound nice, 0:19:20.000 --> 0:19:22.160 but like, you know, I saw him through an engagement 0:19:22.240 --> 0:19:25.639 in a marriage, and you know, when when his wife 0:19:25.800 --> 0:19:29.080 was away, like I came over, you know, like his 0:19:29.240 --> 0:19:31.639 wife doesn't I'm standing there naked looking at a wedding 0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:35.840 album and you know, like that and you know, you 0:19:35.920 --> 0:19:42.960 guys look great. Now, let me see it, just like 0:19:43.560 --> 0:19:46.080 I don't know. I don't know if she know, Um, 0:19:47.200 --> 0:19:48.879 you don't. I didn't, you know, I didn't know. I 0:19:49.000 --> 0:19:51.439 never obviously, if I hadn't met her, I would never 0:19:51.520 --> 0:19:53.760 have done that, you know, so but um, I I 0:19:53.880 --> 0:19:57.520 don't know. And I know that that's his disrespect Oh 0:19:58.000 --> 0:20:03.120 in their beds in the Yeah, it was disrespectful. That's 0:20:03.160 --> 0:20:05.119 why I would never have thought of him as anything 0:20:05.160 --> 0:20:08.040 but a hook up. Like obviously he's not a guy 0:20:08.119 --> 0:20:10.879 you want to date and get serious with and stuff. 0:20:11.000 --> 0:20:12.960 You know, you can't do that, go to some assassinate 0:20:13.040 --> 0:20:17.600 What if she came home? Right? You never had before her? 0:20:17.960 --> 0:20:22.240 I guess, yeah, yeah, Yeah. He was such a he 0:20:22.400 --> 0:20:25.760 was like, you know, this cute but nerdy, kind of nervous. 0:20:25.760 --> 0:20:27.760 He wouldn't he wouldn't have taken a chance like that, 0:20:28.119 --> 0:20:29.800 Like it would have had to be like she would 0:20:29.800 --> 0:20:32.840 have shown up like two days early or something if 0:20:32.920 --> 0:20:35.760 that had happened and stuff. But I saw him for 0:20:35.800 --> 0:20:38.359 a while, and you know, every so often he checks 0:20:38.440 --> 0:20:40.560 in to see, you know, I'm married now and stuff. 0:20:40.920 --> 0:20:43.440 He checks in to see my status, like what's it calling? 0:20:43.520 --> 0:20:45.960 I said, still married, And he's like, think you could 0:20:46.000 --> 0:20:50.159 do an engagement in a marriage too, Yeah, sort of. 0:20:52.320 --> 0:20:55.800 You remember the first time you went Doug hooked up? Yes, yeah, 0:20:56.119 --> 0:20:59.879 so how long like walk us through that, because let 0:21:00.040 --> 0:21:02.800 me see, I just knack you know what. It was 0:21:02.920 --> 0:21:06.879 four months into our relationship. Surprisingly, we finally decided to 0:21:07.080 --> 0:21:08.880 be intimate. And it was that I had a candle 0:21:08.960 --> 0:21:11.480 downtown Seattle, overlooking the water. It was really really cool, 0:21:11.880 --> 0:21:13.360 and we were in the living room and back then, 0:21:13.480 --> 0:21:15.840 you know, the big screen TVs was like the big console. 0:21:15.920 --> 0:21:19.639 So we were watching shanee um and now she shanis online, 0:21:19.680 --> 0:21:25.320 you know the singer, Yeah, and that's the song. Yeah. 0:21:30.560 --> 0:21:32.560 He was like, she has such a pretty smile, this 0:21:32.680 --> 0:21:34.600 and that, and we just we had some wine and 0:21:34.680 --> 0:21:36.400 we ended up being intimate right there in the living 0:21:36.440 --> 0:21:38.560 room on the floor. My best friend she didn't live 0:21:38.640 --> 0:21:40.119 with me, but I gave her the key and she 0:21:40.280 --> 0:21:43.680 came home and we were just like messing around under 0:21:43.720 --> 0:21:46.920 the blanket. But she was like, oh my god, on 0:21:47.040 --> 0:21:51.600 top of us, and it was hilarious and she was like, oh, 0:21:51.720 --> 0:21:54.359