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Speaker 1: All right, we arep listen, Lurya and g McGuire. We
Speaker 1: got Jackie Christie here with us today from Basketball Wives.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me, Angela. Look at
Speaker 1: Jackie trying to be um. You already know. But before
Speaker 1: you got here, we were talking about you when we
Speaker 1: were talking about how nice of us to see somebody
Speaker 1: in a solid marriage, right absolutely, you know, especially on television,
Speaker 1: and somebody that whose husband actually likes having him around. Okay,
Speaker 1: can you guys believe nowadays on the show called Basketball
Speaker 1: Wives or year the only wife? Well, listen, my taking jazz,
Speaker 1: That's not what I meant currently right now, I'm the
Speaker 1: only one Brandy. Brandy's a wife too, But they are
Speaker 1: they back together? Um? You know what they didn't. I
Speaker 1: don't think she the show. I mean, I know she
Speaker 1: saw her but in the opening credits, you know she's
Speaker 1: not not this or not this season, but eventually maybe.
Speaker 1: So how do you keep things fresh? Though? I know
Speaker 1: that's a question. I'm sure probably people ask you all
Speaker 1: the time, but how do you keep things fresh? Like?
Speaker 1: I know I hear stories all the time about people
Speaker 1: who are married and they just stop having sex, they're
Speaker 1: not interested anymore. How do you make sure that still
Speaker 1: you know what the intimate is. Intimacy is there. That's
Speaker 1: why I wrote this book too, because it was to
Speaker 1: help couples and just people looking for a relationship. Intimacy
Speaker 1: is not just about sex. It's also about communication, conversation.
Speaker 1: I want to feel appreciated. You know, from morning tonight.
Speaker 1: A woman wants to feel like, you know, she's special
Speaker 1: when she wants to feel like she looks good and
Speaker 1: feels good. But if all of a sudden, you're doing
Speaker 1: her all day and then at night you just want
Speaker 1: to have sex, it starts making making them feel objectified,
Speaker 1: and you know, the fire starts burning out. They start
Speaker 1: getting bored, they start wanting something else. Then that other
Speaker 1: man comes into their life and compliments them and this
Speaker 1: and that, and intimacy starts before you know, and she
Speaker 1: said over him, and then don't let him breathe on
Speaker 1: your neck or something. Next thing, you know, all them
Speaker 1: feelings start coming back, and then the sex is the
Speaker 1: bomb because you really want it with your mate, like
Speaker 1: you're getting it somewhere else, and you start confusing yourself
Speaker 1: with thinking you're in love with that person in the
Speaker 1: relationship Falters, do you ever go through like a dry
Speaker 1: Did you ever go through a dry spell where y'all
Speaker 1: just weren't having sex? I always hear this, but my
Speaker 1: friends have been in long term relationships, like we never
Speaker 1: have sex anymore. You know what, We didn't because we're
Speaker 1: both freaks. We both love to be intimate with each other,
Speaker 1: and we have this thing where we can talk about
Speaker 1: anything and we fantasize too. That's another thing that I
Speaker 1: think couple should do more of, and I talk about
Speaker 1: it in my book as well. It's fantasizing and it
Speaker 1: makes everybody feel like they're not missing anything, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. You have to be able to be
Speaker 1: open or with your partner and with your maide and
Speaker 1: have respect and trust too. You know, they have to
Speaker 1: not want to veer outside of that relationship. But I
Speaker 1: can tell Doug if I find somewhere attractive or this
Speaker 1: and that other, And it's really that intimacy that we
Speaker 1: share together that helps us go to another level mentally.
Speaker 1: If you're there, the sex is the bomb. So he
Speaker 1: doesn't get mad though you're like, oh, I think someone's right.
Speaker 1: I want to be that's right, that's right, and you
Speaker 1: have to do that, you have to have that open communication.
Speaker 1: But it like okay, because I never really tell, like
Speaker 1: my boyfriend, if I find somebody else attractively, I'd be scared.
Speaker 1: But I just felt like, that's my time. My girls,
Speaker 1: Like I never would tell my boyfriend like he looks good,
Speaker 1: he's a good look guy. Yeah, you know. And people
Speaker 1: are surprised because they're like, Jackie, will you picture you
Speaker 1: this over protective, you know, jealous type, And I'm like,
Speaker 1: it's not even like that. Like we and we started
Speaker 1: years and years ago. We've been married twenty one year,
Speaker 1: so we right in our first two years of marriage.
Speaker 1: We was in Hawaii one time and we were just
Speaker 1: sitting on the couch in the hotel room, chilling and
Speaker 1: eating and drinking wine, and we just started talking openly
Speaker 1: about things, and I wanted him to share with me
Speaker 1: his past. What was your best relationship, what was the
Speaker 1: best sex, who was it with, Why do you feel
Speaker 1: you felt that way and all of that. We started
Speaker 1: our conversations like that and it just developed into being
Speaker 1: able to be open about everything, and it just took
Speaker 1: us to another level. He was like Dialne Dine. I
Speaker 1: was a little jealous at first because he tells you
Speaker 1: other people, because yeah, if I asked you that question,
Speaker 1: you better saying okay, that's what I'm saying. I felt
Speaker 1: like that, but I fought the urge because I was like,
Speaker 1: with a man, it's hard enough to get him to
Speaker 1: open up. So I didn't let him see it. But
Speaker 1: I was kind of like, ouch o her, why But
Speaker 1: then it just it just drove me to be the
Speaker 1: best motivation there it is, I better get on there,
Speaker 1: reverse cowgirl, let me find the top. Now, what about
Speaker 1: him telling you about you know, women that like he's
Speaker 1: she's hot. I would definitely in my younger years if
Speaker 1: I was single. No, he he it's a turn off
Speaker 1: for me. Dougs in his forties. We're still young. We're
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. We just gets it popping.
Speaker 1: And if like Halle Berry, he thinks she's beautiful everybody
Speaker 1: that's like yeah, but what about somebody attainable like that?
Speaker 1: You know, random that's like a random check. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: could be a girl down the street, or if you know,
Speaker 1: if I haven't seen him in a couple of days,
Speaker 1: say he's gone with the team. Because he travels with
Speaker 1: the team right now, And I say, did you see
Speaker 1: anybody sexy on the road? Which she looked like, what
Speaker 1: was she built? Like that kind of thing. It's interesting
Speaker 1: for us, it's intriguing. It's like a different kind of
Speaker 1: release for us. But if he was like, man, I
Speaker 1: think Evelyn is so sexy, I would laugh if he
Speaker 1: thought was. But I mean, I'm I'm I'm, you know,
Speaker 1: secure enough in myself that I wouldn't worry about Evelyn
Speaker 1: too much. But he doesn't get like a hall pass
Speaker 1: or anything that you're like, I don't think he even
Speaker 1: wants that, because when you can be open with your
Speaker 1: mate and your everything to them, it's like kind of like, man,
Speaker 1: it takes that whole thing out of it. And I
Speaker 1: know what he wants, I know what he needs, and
Speaker 1: I'm there to fulfill that and vice versa. So we
Speaker 1: kind of we're happy now. I was reading my friend
Speaker 1: Laney has been writing for this magazine right she has
Speaker 1: a communist magazine. She's to work at Penthouse, so she
Speaker 1: talks a lot about sex, and she talks about how
Speaker 1: masturbating is really good for you, and they say it
Speaker 1: releaves a lot of stress for some guys that can
Speaker 1: prevent like colon cancer, all kinds of things. So when
Speaker 1: Doug is not traveling, are you big on masturbating? Definitely?
Speaker 1: We can do that together with each other. That's another
Speaker 1: thing that's very sexy. You know. Yeah, you do that
Speaker 1: with each other because it also opens up communication, intimacy.
Speaker 1: You drop all of those shields that we have around us,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and you're able to experience
Speaker 1: sex on a higher level. See how often do you
Speaker 1: ladies masturbate? I just read one out now. I'm not
Speaker 1: every day, but like regularly. You think it makes sex better?
Speaker 1: I do, really Yeah. I used to do it a
Speaker 1: lot and then I just stopped and you got a
Speaker 1: long as it's not about this, I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: I started to feel like a perv, especially spurts, like
Speaker 1: when I want to messurate for a lot, a lot,
Speaker 1: a lot, and then I'm just like all right. Only
Speaker 1: I feel so because you masturbate before you have sex,
Speaker 1: you know you can, but if you know you about
Speaker 1: TV weather, But I don't want to come before I
Speaker 1: have sex because I feel like, I know this is
Speaker 1: very dutious, but I feel like if I come, I
Speaker 1: kind of like I don't want to have like you're good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is my fit right here, lady like you like
Speaker 1: warms and you warm it up. We were just talking
Speaker 1: about ladies article about masturbation. Here, you gotta take a
Speaker 1: look at this. She has her column in this magazine
Speaker 1: strip Lvy Las Vegas Different. This is a nice magazine.
Speaker 1: It is wait, I gotta subscribe to this. I like it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is nice. Yeah, you were, cousin Leaney. I was
Speaker 1: talking about some of your previous articles about masturbation and
Speaker 1: how masturbation is really good for you. So we were
Speaker 1: talking about how frequently met we masturbate, and you've had
Speaker 1: some weird you know, some weird experiences about guys masturbating.
Speaker 1: You said, one guy used to like to masturbate with
Speaker 1: a vibrator in his but yes, not only that, but
Speaker 1: with us, yes, nine volt batteries. He would take a
Speaker 1: couple of nine volt batteries, put in a condom, and
Speaker 1: then put in his butt while he masturbated. Oh my god, wait, oh,
Speaker 1: I thought the batteries are going inside the vibrator the
Speaker 1: oh wait wait I just missed this whole ship, the
Speaker 1: vibrator and batteries. Well, there's two separate, you know, and
Speaker 1: men do it with vibrators. But I knew somebody who
Speaker 1: used nine volt batteries because they give you a shock
Speaker 1: of some sort of problems. He said something about the
Speaker 1: heaviness of them that he read in a book that
Speaker 1: it's very pleasant to They shouldn't make you feel like
Speaker 1: you got a poops for me? Doge? I agree? But lady,
Speaker 1: this is Jackie, Jackie jack from Basketball, Wives and Lany
Speaker 1: For a long time, she's worked with Penthouse, yes, okay,
Speaker 1: and so she knows everybody and everything, and she actually
Speaker 1: has um. You guys are both authors, okay, you know
Speaker 1: which I love. She's written books about how to ask
Speaker 1: for a threesome, okay, threesome, ro blow jobs, a role
Speaker 1: play and uh. And then I wrote a book where
Speaker 1: I interviewed a dozen high end call girls about what
Speaker 1: was their secret? Why do men come back to them
Speaker 1: to pay two thousand dollars an hour? It can just
Speaker 1: be sex because they can get that anywhere. So I
Speaker 1: interviewed them about what it is about their what they
Speaker 1: offered in other ways than made them come back. Amazing.
Speaker 1: I would love to read that book. Yeah. Then obviously
Speaker 1: Jackie has been. She's been married to do Christie. They've
Speaker 1: been in a relationship for over twenty one years. That's amazing,
Speaker 1: thank you. And they get married every year. Thank you.
Speaker 1: How many wedding dresses? So you have all those wedding
Speaker 1: dresses though, yeah, every year I get annoy one crazy,
Speaker 1: I'll be like, all right, no more room for this.
Speaker 1: I have boxes of them in stories. That's crazy, Jackie.
Speaker 1: Have you ever done role play? You know what I do.
Speaker 1: I love doing that. Anything sexual you can experience with
Speaker 1: your mate, I feel like you should do. You only
Speaker 1: live once. This is a gift to us, which is
Speaker 1: sexual release, orgasm, sex that that whole exchange and interaction.
Speaker 1: I'm down. So you never felt, see like because I've
Speaker 1: never done it and I've always said I was going
Speaker 1: to and whatever, so but like a point you ever
Speaker 1: just started laughing and be like what then is going
Speaker 1: on here? Because I think that's what I'm scared of,
Speaker 1: Like that that person, like the guy would just be
Speaker 1: looking at me like this is not working out and
Speaker 1: I'm saying it, and you'll both decide to go and
Speaker 1: do it. I think you'll both get into it enough
Speaker 1: that you just go ahead and go through with it
Speaker 1: and like what do you do like put an accent on?
Speaker 1: Like how does it work? I mean, you just gotta
Speaker 1: go to out, you got to go with the flow
Speaker 1: or whatever. What's your favorite role um I would have
Speaker 1: to probably say a French maide, yeah, or nurse. And
Speaker 1: sometimes it's role play. You don't necessarily have to put
Speaker 1: on a costume, Like you can be more spontaneous about
Speaker 1: it and just start just start going in the moment
Speaker 1: with what you say. It's about what you say, not
Speaker 1: so much what you're wearing. Yeah, So why do I
Speaker 1: think like the costume is the best part, Like it
Speaker 1: has to have a costume? Are I know, you're a
Speaker 1: fireman if you don't have a hat. One my friend
Speaker 1: on Twitter alone, she does this advice column thing and
Speaker 1: she says, one girl wrote in and she had this
Speaker 1: rape fantasy and she wanted a guy. But I mean,
Speaker 1: I know it sounds taboo to say, but if you're
Speaker 1: role playing and this is like the game that you
Speaker 1: want to do or whatever, obviously in real life you
Speaker 1: would never want that to happen. But I think there's
Speaker 1: a whole category important about that. Oh. I mean that's
Speaker 1: probably one of the number one fantasies of women, and
Speaker 1: it's not about the violence. It's about giving up control.
Speaker 1: So it's more because all role plays about dominance and submission. Basically,
Speaker 1: those are with all themes, whether it's like doctor patient, um,
Speaker 1: you know, schoolgirl, head master or whatever it is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's about you know, it's not about anyone getting hurt
Speaker 1: per se, but it's about you know, having this handsome
Speaker 1: burglar break into your home and instead of burglarizing your home,
Speaker 1: you have sex. Yeah, my burglar is hot. Now. Your
Speaker 1: latest article was about how you used to go on Craigslist. Yes,
Speaker 1: and like fun dudes that you met. Yes, yes, it's
Speaker 1: just like we're going back, you know, ten years. That
Speaker 1: seems like said now, that seems like such a scary
Speaker 1: thing to do, right, you know, but is that scarier
Speaker 1: than meeting somebody in real life in the club or
Speaker 1: in tender to me tender, it's the same thing if
Speaker 1: you're gonna I mean, you see it's you know, you
Speaker 1: see his picture you hook up. I mean it was
Speaker 1: the same thing, except it was that she a little
Speaker 1: better because you had more time to email each other
Speaker 1: back and forth and get a sense if this is
Speaker 1: like a well balanced mental you know person or is
Speaker 1: this can you know all that you know what he
Speaker 1: wants to do and stuff? But it definitely yes, is
Speaker 1: there's some danger involved? I I don't disagree. That's was
Speaker 1: part of the thrill for me, of course, was like
Speaker 1: not knowing what was going to happen. Did you have
Speaker 1: did you have to tell people? Like Okay, I gotta
Speaker 1: let my friends know that I'm going on the State
Speaker 1: be here about the fucking so like what was it?
Speaker 1: Just a listen, this happened on insecure? Let's not forget
Speaker 1: do you gust insecure tea? It's oh my god? But
Speaker 1: it actually happened to her on the show, right, she
Speaker 1: was on I forget which sight she was doing some
Speaker 1: online dating. It was like a tender kind of thing
Speaker 1: and she I had to do a hook up and
Speaker 1: she couldn't do it though the first time she couldn't
Speaker 1: have sex with the guy. She just felt awkward about it.
Speaker 1: But it it was her first time and it was it
Speaker 1: was what you call a wolf James, right. Remember he's
Speaker 1: a singer, Luke James, look James, sorry close enough, that's
Speaker 1: like his Instagram name something see, so I'm not too
Speaker 1: far off. It was Luke James and she disked him.
Speaker 1: She said she didn't want to have sex with them
Speaker 1: because she felt awkward. Right right to deal with any
Speaker 1: of this, You've never deal with any of this online dating.
Speaker 1: You never had to deal with this apps because you've
Speaker 1: been married right nine six You guys, I'm lost when
Speaker 1: it comes to that. But I do have some friends
Speaker 1: that do that, and I always panicked for him because whew,
Speaker 1: do you know you're not gonna go meet this person?
Speaker 1: And luckily they haven't ran into that yet. But I'm
Speaker 1: always nervous for them. But they're like, these guys are
Speaker 1: so hot and da da da. So I guess it
Speaker 1: has a certain level of interestingness to it because it's
Speaker 1: you know, fresh, and it's, like she said, spontaneous. But
Speaker 1: I don't know, I probably would be nervous. I'm scared
Speaker 1: to me. But let's talk about some life experience since
Speaker 1: you've done Sure, Um, they were mostly really great. A
Speaker 1: lot of times you asked if I told friends like
Speaker 1: I might BFF new I was doing it, you know,
Speaker 1: but um, A lot of times no, I would like
Speaker 1: when I was bored at at Penthouse. Let's say, when
Speaker 1: I was working at Penthouse. Is a slow day. You know, um,
Speaker 1: like people do you go online and I would, you know,
Speaker 1: meet someone and go see them on my lunch hour
Speaker 1: for instance, you know, and come back. And most of
Speaker 1: the guys were very good looking, very uh, you know,
Speaker 1: pretty respectful considering um. One time though I was talking.
Speaker 1: You know that One of the tips I'd given the
Speaker 1: article is if it's the talking is going on too long,
Speaker 1: like like now a week's gone by and you haven't
Speaker 1: made up, there's usually something that's when something fishy is
Speaker 1: going on. It's not when when some guy says, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: can you meet today, great, let's do Those are usually
Speaker 1: on the level when it's like a week goes by
Speaker 1: and like he's still talking to you, and it's the
Speaker 1: conversation is explicit, like he wants the sext or whatever. Um.
Speaker 1: So one guy he's in me his picture. He's a
Speaker 1: good looking guy, but I mean nothing crazy or anything,
Speaker 1: just averagely good looking guy and um, and I didn't
Speaker 1: hear from him, and then I heard from him, and
Speaker 1: then finally I was like for this one, I said,
Speaker 1: let's meet a Starbucks. You know, I didn't want to,
Speaker 1: you know, invite now over. I said, something's weird and
Speaker 1: I waited, like a half hour went by and I
Speaker 1: was gonna leave, and all of a sudden, I, you
Speaker 1: know this, this guy from India comes up to me.
Speaker 1: When I say from India, I mean like he was
Speaker 1: not like, yeah, he'd been here, he'd hadn't been here
Speaker 1: that long in accent or and he's like, hello, Laney,
Speaker 1: and I said yeah, and he's like it's me, you know.
Speaker 1: And it would have been fine, except that's not the
Speaker 1: picture I got. That's not that they weren't even the
Speaker 1: same race, they weren't the same and and I just
Speaker 1: stared at him and I was like, and I said
Speaker 1: to him, absolutely not. And I just walked out. And
Speaker 1: he think that you would still be okay with it,
Speaker 1: like it's amazing what people think they can pull off.
Speaker 1: Like that's that's probably the worst thing that happened, which,
Speaker 1: you know, it was kind of gross when you think
Speaker 1: about how you've spoken to that person, like, oh, what
Speaker 1: do you winto sexually? What are you want too? You
Speaker 1: got kind of intimate and that After that, I was like,
Speaker 1: don't talk that dirty to anybody at all, because you
Speaker 1: you know, could be some guy just trying to get
Speaker 1: his jollys off or you know whatever, because that did
Speaker 1: feel icky. Like when I got home, I was like,
Speaker 1: I got to take a shower, and like, did you
Speaker 1: have like repeat instances with some of these guys that
Speaker 1: you were meeting or was it always just a one time? Yeah,
Speaker 1: there were some guys that I saw over the first
Speaker 1: guy that I ever hooked up with. UM, I think
Speaker 1: instinctually I decided to look for younger guys, thinking I'd
Speaker 1: have more control when you you know, when I my
Speaker 1: first one, so it was someone who's like ten years
Speaker 1: younger than me, and we had a great time. And
Speaker 1: that's why I think I started kept doing it because
Speaker 1: the first one was so much fun. He was a
Speaker 1: really cool person. He worked in entertainment like I did,
Speaker 1: and you know, you know, we hooked up, and I
Speaker 1: think we hooked up for like six years on and off.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, I mean, I know it's not gonna sound nice,
Speaker 1: but like, you know, I saw him through an engagement
Speaker 1: in a marriage, and you know, when when his wife
Speaker 1: was away, like I came over, you know, like his
Speaker 1: wife doesn't I'm standing there naked looking at a wedding
Speaker 1: album and you know, like that and you know, you
Speaker 1: guys look great. Now, let me see it, just like
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if she know, Um,
Speaker 1: you don't. I didn't, you know, I didn't know. I
Speaker 1: never obviously, if I hadn't met her, I would never
Speaker 1: have done that, you know, so but um, I I
Speaker 1: don't know. And I know that that's his disrespect Oh
Speaker 1: in their beds in the Yeah, it was disrespectful. That's
Speaker 1: why I would never have thought of him as anything
Speaker 1: but a hook up. Like obviously he's not a guy
Speaker 1: you want to date and get serious with and stuff.
Speaker 1: You know, you can't do that, go to some assassinate
Speaker 1: What if she came home? Right? You never had before her?
Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, yeah, Yeah. He was such a he
Speaker 1: was like, you know, this cute but nerdy, kind of nervous.
Speaker 1: He wouldn't he wouldn't have taken a chance like that,
Speaker 1: Like it would have had to be like she would
Speaker 1: have shown up like two days early or something if
Speaker 1: that had happened and stuff. But I saw him for
Speaker 1: a while, and you know, every so often he checks
Speaker 1: in to see, you know, I'm married now and stuff.
Speaker 1: He checks in to see my status, like what's it calling?
Speaker 1: I said, still married, And he's like, think you could
Speaker 1: do an engagement in a marriage too, Yeah, sort of.
Speaker 1: You remember the first time you went Doug hooked up? Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: so how long like walk us through that, because let
Speaker 1: me see, I just knack you know what. It was
Speaker 1: four months into our relationship. Surprisingly, we finally decided to
Speaker 1: be intimate. And it was that I had a candle
Speaker 1: downtown Seattle, overlooking the water. It was really really cool,
Speaker 1: and we were in the living room and back then,
Speaker 1: you know, the big screen TVs was like the big console.
Speaker 1: So we were watching shanee um and now she shanis online,
Speaker 1: you know the singer, Yeah, and that's the song. Yeah.
Speaker 1: He was like, she has such a pretty smile, this
Speaker 1: and that, and we just we had some wine and
Speaker 1: we ended up being intimate right there in the living
Speaker 1: room on the floor. My best friend she didn't live
Speaker 1: with me, but I gave her the key and she
Speaker 1: came home and we were just like messing around under
Speaker 1: the blanket. But she was like, oh my god, on
Speaker 1: top of us, and it was hilarious and she was like, oh,
Speaker 1: you guys finally did it and all hilarious. So it
Speaker 1: was common. That wasn't the first time. It was amazing.
Speaker 1: It was just what I thought it would be. It was,
Speaker 1: you know, everything I thought he would be. Because sometimes
Speaker 1: the first time, I always feel like this, like you
Speaker 1: could have a great connection with somebody. Sometimes the first
Speaker 1: time it's a little awkward. I think so too. I
Speaker 1: never really had the first time to be the best time.
Speaker 1: No no, no no no. I had one time when
Speaker 1: I was the best time. But I remember one time
Speaker 1: I had the first time and I'll call and I
Speaker 1: was like, this ship was off. She said, it was terrible,
Speaker 1: like this is awful. It was so bad. I did
Speaker 1: not want to have sex with him. And what did
Speaker 1: I say? She was like, well, you know, you just
Speaker 1: probably just gotta learn each other five and then I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna lie. When we did it again, it was
Speaker 1: really good, but I mean it wasn't the best, but
Speaker 1: it was cool. But like he wasn't top five, top five,
Speaker 1: top five. He was right like flashed. But you know
Speaker 1: it was just like she's right, like in the beginning,
Speaker 1: it's kind of like you gotta learn each other sometimes
Speaker 1: with sometimes you don't pussy right, Like there's some things
Speaker 1: it's true. Guess what, I don't got a problem telling
Speaker 1: them right? Good, you have to tell them I'd rather
Speaker 1: not think that's awkward. I don't want to have to
Speaker 1: tell you what I will. I think men to appreciate that, really,
Speaker 1: Oh definitely, I think men. You know. UM, A lot
Speaker 1: of times the guys have told me like, well, if
Speaker 1: you know, if women don't feel we do it enough,
Speaker 1: let's say even like open your mouth and tell us,
Speaker 1: you know, like and and sometimes I've said, like my
Speaker 1: annoyance is, why do I have to tell you to
Speaker 1: go down on me when like we go down you constantly?
Speaker 1: You know, Like why do we have to tell you
Speaker 1: at all? You know? But but even that, but or
Speaker 1: if not doing it right, they're like, show me, tell me,
Speaker 1: tell me what I am. I think of a guy
Speaker 1: was to stop me and be like, listen, this is awful,
Speaker 1: this is I'm constructive. Don't put it over against what
Speaker 1: constructive is? You know what? I like, that's how you
Speaker 1: do it because you don't think that's true. You just
Speaker 1: bit me. Know. Is there anything you haven't tried that
Speaker 1: you want to? Um? Haven't tried? No, I think I've
Speaker 1: pretty much tried everything, nailed it. I haven't done it. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: what keeps it exciting after twenty one years? Um? I
Speaker 1: would definitely. I was telling those guys intimacy being as
Speaker 1: to communicate um us wanting to feel appreciated and beautiful
Speaker 1: all day long. It don't have to be outward sexual comments,
Speaker 1: but you know, make the woman feel like she's you know,
Speaker 1: gorgeous and you want her. That's more. That's important to me.
Speaker 1: You know, I want to feel wanted and that desire
Speaker 1: has to be there on both sides, and the sex
Speaker 1: will be good, the relationship will last, I feel, and
Speaker 1: everybody will feel satisfied. Where people run into problems is
Speaker 1: when there's somebody's lacking satisfication, you know, satisfication. Do you
Speaker 1: guys ever watch Pouring Together? Definitely? We definitely watched that. Yeah, definitely,
Speaker 1: and it's amazing. You know, we have tons of videos,
Speaker 1: but there's also videos we have our own bind Where
Speaker 1: can we find those? Yeah? Definitely? So. But you have
Speaker 1: sex differentely when you know you're filming it, um, when
Speaker 1: we know we're framing it. Yeah, when you're feeling it
Speaker 1: like for each other? Do you have sex differently? Sex
Speaker 1: take together? I thought you said you have you know,
Speaker 1: we watch of other people. Okay, yeah, that's all. When
Speaker 1: you said that, it was a joke. It was funny,
Speaker 1: but I think I don't know if that would turn
Speaker 1: me on, Like you don't want a man dog. No,
Speaker 1: I think in my mind, I'm a mind person, and
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if that's my sign or what.
Speaker 1: But it's all about the mental for me. I think
Speaker 1: for your next anniversary, you guys should feel yourself having sex,
Speaker 1: really think, oh my god, and then like he could
Speaker 1: have a little clip on his phone and you have
Speaker 1: a little clip on your phone, and then when you're
Speaker 1: out together, then you can see. I think that be
Speaker 1: had what we face time and stuff. But I don't
Speaker 1: know about that. I'll try it, but he probably would
Speaker 1: love that. I'm not gonna probably love that. See, I'm
Speaker 1: a mental person. I'm the type that you know they say,
Speaker 1: if you really, really, really think hard enough, you can
Speaker 1: almost have an orgasm thinking about it. Really Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I get the chiels and all that because I'm so
Speaker 1: into the mental part of it. I'm going to try
Speaker 1: that about him. YEA lady for you getting married, right,
Speaker 1: I'm sure obviously that you and your husband have had
Speaker 1: to talk about a lot of different things. Sure, the
Speaker 1: way he's a Donald Trump supporter, I'm not gonna Please
Speaker 1: don't kill me because the same No, he's looked well.
Speaker 1: I pulled a trick on him. Actually on election day,
Speaker 1: he didn't feel well and I said to me, no, honey,
Speaker 1: I said, are you really gonna you know, you obviously
Speaker 1: have a fever. I said, you know he's not gonna
Speaker 1: win in New York anyway. You know, it's not like
Speaker 1: your votes going to count. And I said, well, don't
Speaker 1: you just sit this one out? And he goes, you're right,
Speaker 1: He's not, You're right, And so I was like, at
Speaker 1: least I can say that you know, he didn't actually
Speaker 1: vote for him. I was like, I can't go to
Speaker 1: bed with you if I know you've voted for the man.
Speaker 1: He is awful. The funny thing is is that, um,
Speaker 1: you know, working adult entertainment. UM, when I want to
Speaker 1: be in a relationship, I usually don't tell people right
Speaker 1: away because it scares men off or men think you're
Speaker 1: gonna like, oh great, we're gonna have orgies and have
Speaker 1: sex with you know, porn stars, and it's not the
Speaker 1: case either. So UM, I just told him I was
Speaker 1: a publicist, and I think after a month someone at
Speaker 1: his job googled my name and went over to him
Speaker 1: and said, oh my god, he's like this girl you're with,
Speaker 1: he's like, she's like this and this, And he texted
Speaker 1: me and he it wasn't so much the porn. It
Speaker 1: was I didn't tell about the books either, and he
Speaker 1: texted me and he goes, are no, no. He texted
Speaker 1: me and he said, um, so you wrote a book
Speaker 1: about blow jobs. Very impressive and I said, oh my god.
Speaker 1: And then he called me and goes, it's okay. He goes,
Speaker 1: I'm so like impressed that you're such a self made
Speaker 1: woman and you're a businesswoman. And I know that doesn't
Speaker 1: mean right and exactly he said that too, and then
Speaker 1: I said, well life. He said that too, but um,
Speaker 1: I said, well, I'm glad you. I said, this isn't
Speaker 1: gonna be an issue, and he goes, well, it's not
Speaker 1: like I read that you like, you know, volunteered for
Speaker 1: the Obama campaign. And I stopped and I said what
Speaker 1: does that mean. I just didn't even understand. And I
Speaker 1: said what do you mean by that? And he goes oh,
Speaker 1: and then he's like, yeah, I'm a Republican, like like
Speaker 1: like we had our wedding at the Women's National Republican
Speaker 1: Club on fifth A Venue. It was beautiful, like the
Speaker 1: beautiful ballroom and everything is great, but it's like it's
Speaker 1: like a family religion, Like they're like, you know, Abraham Lincoln,
Speaker 1: like Republicans, Like it's it's there religion in this family.
Speaker 1: Do you guys are you a lot about that? Because oh, yes,
Speaker 1: going on, I can imagine k Raley absolutely. I'm sure
Speaker 1: you've probably met because I know he loves horn stars. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I had a couple of I had. I had a client,
Speaker 1: you remember her, remember doctor Z. Yeah, she she had
Speaker 1: a couple of dates with him when before after Marla,
Speaker 1: but before Milannia, when he was single for a little
Speaker 1: window and um, you know she she told us how
Speaker 1: like he goes, all he does talk about himself all day.
Speaker 1: You know, she goes, I didn't have sex with him
Speaker 1: because he's so She's like, all he do was talk
Speaker 1: about himself. And all he did was say, like, you know,
Speaker 1: once you sleep with me, you know I'm going to
Speaker 1: ruin it for everyone else. You'll never want anyone but me,
Speaker 1: you know. And he talked about his like last wife
Speaker 1: and you know she just just not a nice person
Speaker 1: of dates. Who does that? Yeah, Okay, yeah, we don't
Speaker 1: even call him president. That's so funny. We'd just be like,
Speaker 1: I've never heard anyone outside the media state president, right,
Speaker 1: because when Obama was like president Obama president, Like you're
Speaker 1: apparently like Donald Trump, like we know him for real,
Speaker 1: for real, like that Nike Donald Trump. Now, I know
Speaker 1: people who are so scared of like online dating. They
Speaker 1: feel like it makes him a loser. You know, I
Speaker 1: don't want to sign up, and so just from your
Speaker 1: own experience, oh speak on that. I totally felt that way.
Speaker 1: That's why I did Craigslist because um, my mom my
Speaker 1: sister is bothering me for years to do Match, and
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't want my profile up for
Speaker 1: people to see and commercis Match. That's what I mean.
Speaker 1: That's it actually seems like it's successful. I met my
Speaker 1: husband on Match. That's ironically ironically, that's one. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: you know, um yeah, when I was on Craiglist, like
Speaker 1: I never even when I posted ads, like, I never
Speaker 1: posted my photo. I didn't want people to know. Absolutely
Speaker 1: you do, but I was. I was willing to risk it.
Speaker 1: I didn't care. I didn't want people to know and um,
Speaker 1: very private about my you know, my personal life, and
Speaker 1: I didn't want people knowing about it. So, you know,
Speaker 1: that's why I didn't do Match. And finally, when I
Speaker 1: just got bored, you know, after a while, especially when
Speaker 1: I started my own business. Um, it's it's just stopped
Speaker 1: giving me the same charge. You know. It's like it
Speaker 1: was like a drug that didn't work anymore, you know,
Speaker 1: just I stopped getting a buzz, and my sisters like,
Speaker 1: are gonna go and match finally? Like finally, and I
Speaker 1: was like, okay, fine, I will. Probably has so many
Speaker 1: people that, you know, yeah, I did. I did. Somebody
Speaker 1: who used to date my old roommate in college actually
Speaker 1: posted on my my photo like, hey, how are you
Speaker 1: you know? How long was you on there before you
Speaker 1: found Mr? Right? One month? That's it, That's what I'm
Speaker 1: saying him to. He he was, he was on and
Speaker 1: off on the No, it sounds like he was there.
Speaker 1: He was there a while more than me. For sure.
Speaker 1: He was there a while more than me. He was
Speaker 1: dating several women when I met him. He just hadn't
Speaker 1: found one that he really liked. So he kept his
Speaker 1: profile up, you know, until he met someone that he
Speaker 1: really liked. And so I think he'd been there like
Speaker 1: at least a year. I'm like, I just think I'm
Speaker 1: so scared to like me, Like I met one person
Speaker 1: off on Instagram before, but he was verified. I could
Speaker 1: google him. That's safe, you know, I mean, but to me,
Speaker 1: I feel like even like guys that like if they
Speaker 1: try to tell out to me and it's like I
Speaker 1: can't google them. I'm not saying that they have to
Speaker 1: be like, oh, you gotta be famous or you, but
Speaker 1: I'm scared because I don't know you, like, yeah, where's
Speaker 1: your friends? Who the fuck is who you related to? Like,
Speaker 1: I just don't feel comfortable enough. So I think that's
Speaker 1: kind of cool that you found your husband off of
Speaker 1: matches you were able to, Like, I wouldn't have a husband,
Speaker 1: which I don't right now, and that's maybe because I
Speaker 1: wouldn't take like a risk like that. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I was just like you though, I really was, like
Speaker 1: I thought that was the worst I really, I mean
Speaker 1: years I refused to do it, and meanwhile, I'm on Craigslist, like,
Speaker 1: you know, having amazing sex life, but not having an
Speaker 1: amazing relationship. Although I did actually end up living with
Speaker 1: a guy I met off craiglist. I was going to
Speaker 1: say none of those guys ever wanted a relationship. Some
Speaker 1: of them did, but it was you know, for me,
Speaker 1: it was more about the sex anyway. You know, I
Speaker 1: had a really busy career and I wasn't lonely per se.
Speaker 1: You know. It was when I got lonely all the sudden,
Speaker 1: and that I was like, no, this isn't when I
Speaker 1: got lonely. Is when it stopped working for me. You know,
Speaker 1: when I wanted me to real person. But one guy,
Speaker 1: um I did. We ended up moving and he moved
Speaker 1: in with me, like after two months and then it's
Speaker 1: such a bad Yeah he did. He got a woman
Speaker 1: in apartment one morning when one day, like at two
Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning, he wakes me up on a
Speaker 1: Friday night, like we're sleeping and he's like, get up,
Speaker 1: get up, and he takes me to living room. He
Speaker 1: looks at me and he could start all of a sudden.
Speaker 1: I don't know he he was a whack of dude,
Speaker 1: and I didn't know, you know, I was living in
Speaker 1: my head and he starts like ranting about all the things,
Speaker 1: started listing reasons why he doesn't want to stay in
Speaker 1: this relationship. What was wrong with me? Just what was
Speaker 1: wrong with me? While he's chained smoking with a nicotine
Speaker 1: patch on his arm and pacing down, and then he
Speaker 1: kept saying, like, what's this smell in the house too?
Speaker 1: He's like something wrong is smells? Oh yeah, you know.
Speaker 1: Like I I said to him, either you leave my
Speaker 1: house right now or I'm going to It was a choice,
Speaker 1: you know. Um, he wouldn't leave, so I left. He refused. No,
Speaker 1: he refused to leave. So I left. And that was
Speaker 1: your apartment. It was my apartment. It was three o'clock
Speaker 1: in the four o'clock in the morning at this point.
Speaker 1: But I knew I wasn't gonna go sleep anyway, you know,
Speaker 1: And I went to the city. It took a long walk,
Speaker 1: and um, I came back, like you know, at eight,
Speaker 1: and I said, you gotta get out of here now.
Speaker 1: You know, I'll call the police, but you gotta go.
Speaker 1: I would have came back with the police. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: would have been an army with It was the toughest
Speaker 1: part of being married. Um, the toughest part for me.
Speaker 1: It's just the backlash I get from the public when
Speaker 1: they started making up stories and playing games like that,
Speaker 1: as far as just being married is the best thing
Speaker 1: in the world. I mean, I've got my best friend,
Speaker 1: I've got you know, if I want to go to
Speaker 1: the movies, my husband, we're gonna go. He cooks. I
Speaker 1: don't cook in twenty years. He's yeah, you know, but
Speaker 1: what's the best meal he makes? You know, like his seafood.
Speaker 1: But he can make everything, salmon to whatever. And he
Speaker 1: was very healthy, takes good care of his body. I know.
Speaker 1: He's a great dad to all my kids. He's just awesome.
Speaker 1: So it's not We had did this topic the other
Speaker 1: day about what's your favorite thing to eat after sex?
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tell you what the number one answer was.
Speaker 1: But after y'all tell me, I want to see if
Speaker 1: you guys get it. But what is your favorite thing
Speaker 1: to eat after sex? I would have to probably say
Speaker 1: raisins and almonds. And that wasn't the number one, Okay,
Speaker 1: eating not drink because the first of all, sandwich was
Speaker 1: maybe some chips or something like that, candy, okay, and
Speaker 1: you said sandwiches. The number one answer was pizza. Pizza.
Speaker 1: That is going to get pizza, not going because trying
Speaker 1: to get up and then we can eat pizza and
Speaker 1: and do it again. And let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: I do not eat foot in the bed ever. I
Speaker 1: think that's disgusting. Right, So if we're gonna have sex
Speaker 1: and then eat, we gotta go in the kitchen. The kitchen,
Speaker 1: the whole appropriate. I don't may that. I used to
Speaker 1: go walk right to well when I lived with my ex. Like,
Speaker 1: I'll walk right to the kitchen butt naked after sex
Speaker 1: and give me some water or the water jackie? What? Like?
Speaker 1: I know everybody knows you're married, but what do your
Speaker 1: DM look like? Oh my gosh, I'm sure it's so
Speaker 1: many penis pictures in the area. They actually are like
Speaker 1: masturbating and stuff. And now you know I'm marry because
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't get mad at of myry. But
Speaker 1: you give off a high sexual vibe. It is like
Speaker 1: a very sexual like whips and chains and stripper poles
Speaker 1: and the coole. The pole was there for so people
Speaker 1: get that vibe from People get a sexual vibe from you.
Speaker 1: Do you do like that S and M stuff? For real?
Speaker 1: I love everything, and I think that's really sexy. I
Speaker 1: like the whole grabbing around the neck, all of that stuff.
Speaker 1: It's just passion. What about getting tied up. You get
Speaker 1: tied up. You know what. I haven't got tired, all right,
Speaker 1: I got to do that, feel like Jackie, I haven't.
Speaker 1: But I tie up people. I just haven't got people,
Speaker 1: she said. I tie up people tired. Need to tie
Speaker 1: that assode? Are you with it? Though? You know what
Speaker 1: I would? But I'm a control freak, so I like
Speaker 1: to do. But that's why you need to give up something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe I will. That might be actually kind of good
Speaker 1: for you. I think that is good for you. Next
Speaker 1: on the checklist, you should get blind folded. A blind
Speaker 1: phold is nice. Now. I like that one because then
Speaker 1: you don't know what to expect, the anticipation switch. That
Speaker 1: lady as a highly sexual person, right, what's the craziest
Speaker 1: thing that you've ever done that you look back and
Speaker 1: you'd be like, I can't believe I did that. To
Speaker 1: think back now, Um, I've had sex in public places
Speaker 1: for sure, Like, uh, I've had sex like I went
Speaker 1: down on a guy in the back room of a bar,
Speaker 1: you know, thinking that no one was around trying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that is it's like, you know, um, you know there
Speaker 1: was this, I mean, you know, the weird things I did.
Speaker 1: I did because the partners I had were really into
Speaker 1: these things and it was made them. So there was
Speaker 1: this one guy that, um he you know, he huge,
Speaker 1: huge dick, like too big, too big, almost look like
Speaker 1: a literally look at a mountain, and what's his and
Speaker 1: so handsome much the way, so handsome. So I met
Speaker 1: him on Craig was so handsome, so nice, Like he
Speaker 1: looked like a soap opera star. That's the kind of
Speaker 1: handsome he was. But he always like we always finished
Speaker 1: the same way, which was um, he always wanted to
Speaker 1: finish with. I had a full length mirror and move
Speaker 1: it that he'd put it in front while I was
Speaker 1: sucking his balls and he was playing with my ass,
Speaker 1: and he'd stare at himself in the mirror and that's
Speaker 1: how he'd get off. He turned hisself on with some
Speaker 1: with some help from yeah, but then he had to
Speaker 1: see my ass like in the mirror too. It was
Speaker 1: a part of it. And it wasn't sucking his dick.
Speaker 1: It was sucking his balls, not not his dick, his balls.
Speaker 1: He was he was jacking off watching my ass and
Speaker 1: then he'd like, you know, and he'd like stop and
Speaker 1: finger me or whatever. But it was like the same
Speaker 1: thing like right, So then of course you don't you know,
Speaker 1: it's limited and stuff. You know, there was you know,
Speaker 1: there were other guys that um, I definitely explore pay
Speaker 1: you for that girl. I felt like I should have
Speaker 1: gotten paid a lot of times, but like, why not?
Speaker 1: Just I you know what, you're not wrong, You're wrong.
Speaker 1: You gotta be fucking for fun. You might, but you
Speaker 1: know what that you can be picky choosy though, that's
Speaker 1: the only thing. It's like, you can't you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: I could have done that if I could have said, like,
Speaker 1: you know, acted like it was gonna be you know
Speaker 1: you not you you you, But when you're in escort,
Speaker 1: you you know a lot of times you got to
Speaker 1: do everybody. Yeah, yeah, the one wait, you can't turn
Speaker 1: them down. You can, but you know, for some reason
Speaker 1: it's not good for business. Like you know, let me
Speaker 1: see a picture that's yeah, this is worth I definitely
Speaker 1: I was calling to see if you had some open
Speaker 1: slots picture first. Let me see, right, do you have
Speaker 1: any fetishes? Probably porn boobs? What's your point category? You
Speaker 1: know what, I don't. I think the more forbidden it is,
Speaker 1: it's more like going to the massage. Probably, so like,
Speaker 1: if I go on poorn nub, I'll push masseuse. How
Speaker 1: was you know? What's staying that? Yeah? The doctors do
Speaker 1: very popular, very popular. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, I'm like
Speaker 1: getting naked too. Yeah yeah, I know this is about
Speaker 1: to sound mad perverted, But so I got a wax
Speaker 1: the other day and I felt like she was being
Speaker 1: a little bit too touchy for She was robbing on
Speaker 1: my clip and I'm like, yeah, she about you happy
Speaker 1: very I was like, no, I was frozen. She was like, yes,
Speaker 1: how about you? Why is she on that you have
Speaker 1: any orgas? No? But I thought like she was gonna
Speaker 1: keep going and to get wet. I don't know, No,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I really did think it was
Speaker 1: a bit much. I was like, yo, you're supposed to
Speaker 1: be on this bag on my clip. Yeah, my clip
Speaker 1: doesn't grow here like that doesn't do that, so why
Speaker 1: she but she like kept wiping. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like she's trying to make me coming like
Speaker 1: it's not okay. It was it was so it wasn't
Speaker 1: my clip, but she was just like really caressing, like
Speaker 1: when they wipe, thank you, really caressing and just like
Speaker 1: and I was just laying there, not this side. You
Speaker 1: like Comper were weird. First of all, the whole Brazilian
Speaker 1: waxing is a little weird, so awkward. And you're like,
Speaker 1: I made another appointment though that's name. I don't learn
Speaker 1: the name because I'm like, yeah, if I learned their name,
Speaker 1: this is even weird, and like, can I make sure
Speaker 1: I have Christina appointment in one like Christina the regular?
Speaker 1: But you know what I mean, Like it's just it's
Speaker 1: weird to me. I don't know, it's too painful for
Speaker 1: me to be thinking that's pleasurable because it was after
Speaker 1: patient of them pulling off the wax hurts me more
Speaker 1: than the actual wax doesn't hurt when after like the wax,
Speaker 1: when she was just like cleaning everything off with like
Speaker 1: the white bead. See she does it before me. I
Speaker 1: see I have laser hair. It's almost like she was
Speaker 1: rubbing the philip and it was more hair, yes, but
Speaker 1: it was like resting and like really sensual with it.
Speaker 1: And I was just like, that's exactly anything inside of
Speaker 1: your vagiant a bit. What do you have done down there?
Speaker 1: You know what, I've had the waxing done, but that's
Speaker 1: about it. And and usually it's like a sixty year
Speaker 1: old woman at the nail shop or something. I haven't
Speaker 1: I haven't ran into that other one yet. Is it
Speaker 1: so you get waxed every month? Yeah, keep it nice
Speaker 1: and freshingly. Some people like the bush. I don't do that.
Speaker 1: I have a bad reaction to wax, you know, always
Speaker 1: had bumps afterwards and stuff. So yeah, so no shave,
Speaker 1: and you'd be surprised how many girls, how many porn
Speaker 1: star shave. They don't even wax, They just shave because
Speaker 1: you have to also alternate, you know. Sometimes they want
Speaker 1: you to grow it out, you know, so if you
Speaker 1: wax and stuff, you can't. But the one thing with
Speaker 1: my husband, like after our first time together, he I
Speaker 1: used to be totally clean, you know, no hair at all,
Speaker 1: and he said, can you do me a favor? He's like,
Speaker 1: can you just grow something, just you know something, and
Speaker 1: he goes, I just I don't know. I feel like
Speaker 1: a pervert when I go down on you. And I said, wow,
Speaker 1: I was just gonna ask you if you could trim
Speaker 1: some hair like something, and he goes, no, absolutely, not
Speaker 1: like he wouldn't trim. But yeah, is anybody in here bald?
Speaker 1: I am me too what I'm today, but I'm bought today.
Speaker 1: I have a strip. Yeah yeah, the little Atlantic ship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like I just don't understand, like what's on top of
Speaker 1: down it's like a little flame. It's like a little
Speaker 1: flame bowing time where they like you know what I'm
Speaker 1: talking about in Atlanta, that one with all the temples.
Speaker 1: So anyway, like you gotta walk around, they get all
Speaker 1: the women in the locker room whatever where the baths
Speaker 1: and stuff. I and um, I've seen this girl and
Speaker 1: she had like a lightning bowl and I was just like,
Speaker 1: he's probably a stripper. She definitely had a strip because
Speaker 1: she also had ten earrings hanging from clip trip where
Speaker 1: I had, I had a piercing above my clip and
Speaker 1: I had a piercing in my tail. That's how she was.
Speaker 1: I could see I couldn't do that when it was
Speaker 1: like cling bling. So she was making sure everybody's seen
Speaker 1: our piercings. And this was inside of the spot. Those
Speaker 1: piercings hurt really bad. The top one didn't, but the
Speaker 1: bottom one. I made a noise when he when he insers.
Speaker 1: How long did it take the hill? I don't remember.
Speaker 1: I wanted to get my nipple pears. I've heard serious
Speaker 1: about people that have their clip peers and they have
Speaker 1: orgasms all the time from it. Yeah, or when you're
Speaker 1: getting oral it gets in the way. But that doesn't
Speaker 1: give you like a yeast infection, you know, to stay
Speaker 1: wet all day like that. You know, No, jury doesn't
Speaker 1: do better. But my I had my nipple shackie is
Speaker 1: like my first fair imperance. But then when I got
Speaker 1: my second person I pluence, they were so awesome that
Speaker 1: it would have been like putting a bumper sticker on
Speaker 1: the bent least I didn't put it back in. What
Speaker 1: have you ever? Yeah? Have you ever had anything done? No? No,
Speaker 1: not just enaval pierce that's it, okay, just a naval piercing.
Speaker 1: I've had no work, nothing done? You never? Yeah, classic surgery? Yeah.
Speaker 1: I I just recently had a little something done like um,
Speaker 1: it's called vaser like bol suction just around my mid
Speaker 1: section like a mommy makeover. So I just had a
Speaker 1: small one. How is that? Did you recommend it? Crazy?
Speaker 1: I regret was yours? Um, you know what. I'm still
Speaker 1: healing from it. It's been about three weeks and it's um.
Speaker 1: I've actually been endorsing the company for a while. So
Speaker 1: I finally went and did it, and that was the
Speaker 1: first time ever in life, and I would I would
Speaker 1: recommend it. Do you they put you out for this procedure,
Speaker 1: definitely are asleep and this is the first place, so
Speaker 1: you the first want to get this else where you
Speaker 1: in pain? Yeah, you are for a few days, but
Speaker 1: not bad like Thailand, all regular, so you didn't regret
Speaker 1: it like that, I do this somebodyself. You know what,
Speaker 1: for the first couple of days, you do ask yourself
Speaker 1: like what have I done? Because you can't just get
Speaker 1: up and go and start doing your normal stuff, but
Speaker 1: other and it makes you lay down. And I'm a workaholic.
Speaker 1: I'm one of those kind of people that got to
Speaker 1: be busy. So that's the part that got me is
Speaker 1: I'm in the bed, laying down, feet propped up, watching TV.
Speaker 1: Yeah for about a week. Did you tell Doug ahead
Speaker 1: of time that you were doing it? Ahead of time?
Speaker 1: And yeah, he took me there, so he drove me there.
Speaker 1: He was very supportive and then he came and got
Speaker 1: me after and I hear I faint. You fainted. Wow,
Speaker 1: you can probably say you want to go. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: jump off the support. I don't think, yes, you want
Speaker 1: to go. You know those people that go to the
Speaker 1: top of the buildings that the selfies like Doug would
Speaker 1: probably like support you and like doing something. I ain't
Speaker 1: doing it with you, but go ahead. And I know
Speaker 1: what she's saying, because I was thinking to myself, any
Speaker 1: to any extreme extreme you would want to go to.
Speaker 1: I think that Doug would be right there like rooting
Speaker 1: for you. That's just how I see you guys this relationships.
Speaker 1: Did he ask you when can we have sex again?
Speaker 1: He didn't. But you know, there was drains because you
Speaker 1: have drains for about four or five days and they
Speaker 1: are these little tubes. I didn't even know about that
Speaker 1: in there. You know, it's just fluid and you have
Speaker 1: the MTUM. He did all of that for me, for me,
Speaker 1: checked on me every hour. All of that kind of
Speaker 1: stuff just was amazing, and I was thinking, Wow, look
Speaker 1: how blessed I really am? Right, because you know what
Speaker 1: when y'all mentioned I was thinking of the Tamika Raymond
Speaker 1: interview that I thought she said she didn't tell I
Speaker 1: share and she just went and got it done and
Speaker 1: then she almost died. So like when I look at
Speaker 1: stuff like that. I'm like, uh, there goes a thing
Speaker 1: I might have considered, like because when you think of
Speaker 1: stuff like that, it's really scary. So like, you know,
Speaker 1: you at no point where you like scared, like laying
Speaker 1: in the bed the night before. I read that exact
Speaker 1: story the video and was like, um, but then you know,
Speaker 1: invaser is really not that hard invasive. It's not like
Speaker 1: regular lposuction. It's a little tiny one and it goes
Speaker 1: in and melts the fat and then you just suck
Speaker 1: it out. So that's what he He's an expert and
Speaker 1: baby going God, he's killing her. And his name is
Speaker 1: Dr Freedlander. He's amazing young doctor at a Sacramento the
Speaker 1: best studies, steal with the best. Been doing this a
Speaker 1: long time. He does men. Women, you know he's awesome.
Speaker 1: Are getting past he says, you're a lot more now.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, did you see that the guy a
Speaker 1: one on loving hip hop? He said, yeah, he said
Speaker 1: he had light and want to ate a cheeseburger, which
Speaker 1: I guess defeated the purpose. But the fact that he
Speaker 1: even admitted that he had that he had life us action.
Speaker 1: You're not as a man. Yeah, that's crazy to me.
Speaker 1: Guys are wearing Spinks. They have their own line of spinks. Man.
Speaker 1: I live in a very like Spanish area, and I
Speaker 1: was on like the avenue, like the Spanish avenue, going
Speaker 1: to the beauty supply, and I walked by the store
Speaker 1: that sells like all the Colombian jeans and stuff, and
Speaker 1: they had this whole display and it was like a
Speaker 1: man like fah, like wow and everything. I was looking
Speaker 1: at it like, yeah, you know what, I'm glad because like,
Speaker 1: I'm so tired of seeing like trophy girlfriends and wives
Speaker 1: with this like old fat monster of a man. It
Speaker 1: makes me angry. It's like, come on, why do you
Speaker 1: have all this money one instead of paying for her?
Speaker 1: Why don't you get some ship done for yourself? You know,
Speaker 1: why don't you? You don't care about the way you look,
Speaker 1: but you expect beauty from other people, you know. So
Speaker 1: I'm glad to hear that. I think it's good, right,
Speaker 1: weren't even playing like guys really don't care about how
Speaker 1: they look. It's like how much money they do care?
Speaker 1: Trust me and believe guys care so much. Guys care,
Speaker 1: like if they care about they care when they gain
Speaker 1: a little bit of weight, they care about their hairline.
Speaker 1: They care about there. I think that we don't care
Speaker 1: as much, like women don't play so much importance on
Speaker 1: how men look, but men definitely care how they look.
Speaker 1: They care. That's why they go to the gym. I
Speaker 1: mean some of them, not all of them, but that's
Speaker 1: why they care about their bodies. They care about all
Speaker 1: of those things. So, now, Jackie, percentage wise, how many
Speaker 1: times would you say that to orgasm from sex um
Speaker 1: in my life or just like in general, like regularly
Speaker 1: regularly definitely, because it's that mental thing again, you know,
Speaker 1: and if even if you're with a partner, you're with
Speaker 1: someone and it's not the sex, isn't that good. If
Speaker 1: you can take your mind there, you can make any
Speaker 1: situation work for you. So you fantasize during sex, definitely,
Speaker 1: Like what kind of things do you think about? Just everything?
Speaker 1: Either him and me and just the intimacy we're sharing,
Speaker 1: or it could be you know, me thinking about him
Speaker 1: with another girl or something like that, even though that
Speaker 1: wouldn't happen about or you know, sometimes you can think
Speaker 1: about that, you know. But I definitely am open with
Speaker 1: Doug and tell him about it and we can talk
Speaker 1: about it and makes it more intense. Right, what what
Speaker 1: would your ideal guy be to fantasize about. Oh, that's
Speaker 1: a good one, probably be an Affleck really are you
Speaker 1: saying now that lady from Saturday Night Live? Okay, so
Speaker 1: you follow? What about you, Laney? Um, I definitely think
Speaker 1: it's totally fine to think about having sex with other
Speaker 1: people while you're having sex with your husband. Um, I
Speaker 1: definitely do. And I think about, like you know, with
Speaker 1: that article, like I've made spank bank memories. They're gonna
Speaker 1: last through this marriage till we die. You know. I've
Speaker 1: had all these experiences and I think it's totally fine
Speaker 1: to to relive them, you know, while we're having sex.
Speaker 1: And um, he certainly is very open, Like he'll tell
Speaker 1: me if some you know, hot chick on the train
Speaker 1: was talking to him or flirting with him, and he said,
Speaker 1: I was just thinking, I can't wait to bring this
Speaker 1: home to my wife, and I'm gonna take it out
Speaker 1: on her. You know who knew that? Right? I did it.
Speaker 1: That's right. That's what he always says. So you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's totally I think we're both very open that
Speaker 1: I want people. I want him to see that women
Speaker 1: find him attractive. And I think a lot of men
Speaker 1: start cheating when they don't feel women find them attractive anymore,
Speaker 1: and they want to prove that. But Jackie has to
Speaker 1: go because she has more things. Yeah, so I know
Speaker 1: it's a little different than the average inter You love it.
Speaker 1: You got to read the book. I definitely you guys.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna seeing you. So okay, you guys address and
Speaker 1: I'll definitely see you. Have a book signing now right Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm on my way to a book signing right now.
Speaker 1: That's really cool. All right, Dan, you appreciate you and
Speaker 1: we love you on the show because you're like my
Speaker 1: and I love your shoes and your shoes are gorgeous.
Speaker 1: Those are sexy than you. Guys. We're gonna finish with Laney.
Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about this dry rub. Thank you, Jackie.
Speaker 1: All right. Well, Jackie had to leave, but my girl,
Speaker 1: Laney Spires are still here. So many things have changed
Speaker 1: the last time you've been actually on lip service. Because
Speaker 1: if you were here talking about blow jobs last time,
Speaker 1: and we have some master blow job givers in here,
Speaker 1: I can see that blowjob me too. I've been called
Speaker 1: the goat the head masks, but how do you know that,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? How do you know your
Speaker 1: How did you know? How did you know? Because I
Speaker 1: know how I knew their reaction. So like but you
Speaker 1: wake in, they can't let you go. But during the process,
Speaker 1: like but AIE's right. People think twice about breaking up
Speaker 1: with a woman who does that very well. I think
Speaker 1: twice about breaking up with a guy who's great too.
Speaker 1: I've never had read of anybody like I wanted to,
Speaker 1: like they've always tried to like come back around or something.
Speaker 1: But I knew because I was dating this one guy
Speaker 1: and he just loved head. And I feel like that's
Speaker 1: when I really learned how to give Like the best
Speaker 1: head is because I had to give it, not like
Speaker 1: had like he put a gun to my head, but like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was his thing, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: it was like you learned how to get better if
Speaker 1: you want to please somebody. And I felt like after that,
Speaker 1: I just was a beast. Like unfortunately unfortunately, um, I
Speaker 1: was dating a very older guy when I was very young,
Speaker 1: and he had me like watching porn and like learning
Speaker 1: and he would like teach me. Also, you learned from porn.
Speaker 1: People had a lot of things from guy like we
Speaker 1: would watch porn and he would like, you see what
Speaker 1: she just didn't do that, and he would be like
Speaker 1: doing diamond says kind of. I learned from an older
Speaker 1: guy too. The first guy was with was like thirty
Speaker 1: one years old and I was a teenager and he
Speaker 1: taught me how to do every Yeah, I was like
Speaker 1: fifteen and he was like, lord it like a couple
Speaker 1: of years, but not like notes. You know what I
Speaker 1: was thinking about the other day. I was thinking about
Speaker 1: when I was in high school in tenth grade and
Speaker 1: I used to write to school with this girl and
Speaker 1: her older brother would always try to talk to me,
Speaker 1: and he was like a man with a job with
Speaker 1: a soup over. I don't know. I was in tenth grade,
Speaker 1: so I was fourteen, was grown right and with a
Speaker 1: job of a sup yeah, I mean I don't know
Speaker 1: how old. Yeah, he wasn't in school anymore and he
Speaker 1: would be going and he got me a Valentine's Day
Speaker 1: President was creepy. But I was like a little kid
Speaker 1: for real four that it was yucky. So when did
Speaker 1: you all finally have sucked there? Cute? But but now
Speaker 1: I just felt like that's such a weird thing. Like
Speaker 1: your little sisters. That's like that was kind of sick
Speaker 1: to me, you know, yeah, my situation was kind of
Speaker 1: like that. It was um, a guy that I was
Speaker 1: in the same grade with was dating my cousin and
Speaker 1: me and her people like it was like bestie's and
Speaker 1: it was his older brother and he would like to
Speaker 1: see me in the neighborhood and blah blah blah. And
Speaker 1: then eventually we just started seeing each other. But he
Speaker 1: taught me. He taught me first about because when I
Speaker 1: lost my reginally, I honest don't honestly don't think we
Speaker 1: did it correctly, but it was him who taught me
Speaker 1: everything about sex. And I just feel like it was
Speaker 1: so creepy back then, and you know, maybe he shouldn't
Speaker 1: have been teaching me the s but I honestly have
Speaker 1: to say that if it wasn't for him, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be the woman I am to that because he kind
Speaker 1: of just like started it all. Don't be living with
Speaker 1: R Kelly. They have changed a lot, I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't think even if older guys want to do
Speaker 1: that now, I don't think they do is the way
Speaker 1: they used to anymore. I think guys are too scared.
Speaker 1: You're going to jail. Yeah, all those shows on TV
Speaker 1: with the lemonade and the cookies, and I think guys
Speaker 1: are too scared. You know. You know you're good ahead
Speaker 1: if you do it to a guy that normally doesn't
Speaker 1: really like it. Yes, ye happened to me before. You
Speaker 1: Guys don't like a couple of guys' Yeah, some guys.
Speaker 1: Some guys can't they like it. But some guys can't
Speaker 1: have an orgasm. Yeah, they can't come from until. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's true. You do feel so good about yourself when
Speaker 1: you really get someone that way. You know, you know
Speaker 1: the next day he doesn't want to come yeah, and
Speaker 1: he's like yeah, and you're like yeah, I know. But
Speaker 1: then you try to fun is it me? Why did
Speaker 1: I let him? I always feel like sex as a competition,
Speaker 1: it is. It's I hate when I when like if
Speaker 1: my boyfriend comes and I'm like, damn, we didn't even
Speaker 1: have sex and I got whack. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That's why you can't get him head today. But sometimes
Speaker 1: you kind of want to because it feels like when
Speaker 1: you know he doesn't want to, but it's like a
Speaker 1: feeling of like empowerment. It is empowerment just until you're
Speaker 1: laying a word to laying there with a wet pussy
Speaker 1: or nothing to do, right, he should eat your out.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's better if he ain't. He about to
Speaker 1: watch me? But let me turned into DJ on the
Speaker 1: ones and two. How many of you after sex have
Speaker 1: masturbated by yourself like I have? Many times? A lie,
Speaker 1: I really don't masturbate. It's the same you don't. I
Speaker 1: really don't masturbate, and I think it's because I'm lazy.
Speaker 1: I really do. Like I have so many toys at home,
Speaker 1: I don't really use them because it's like a lot
Speaker 1: of effort with the toys. I think y'all already know
Speaker 1: I don't with toys like I don't woman something we
Speaker 1: do have something like if they did give me I
Speaker 1: like the woman, I didn't use it. You should try it.
Speaker 1: I haven't. I just tried. It's too much effort with
Speaker 1: the toy I'm talking about, just like wandering down. But
Speaker 1: you know what I will do. I will watch porn.
Speaker 1: I can't just lay there and like masturbate. I have
Speaker 1: to like watch porn or something. But I'm always so
Speaker 1: tired by the time I get in my bed. I
Speaker 1: don't even like do anything. Does this happen to y'all?
Speaker 1: Because this happens to me, Like if I fucking masturbate
Speaker 1: the porn afterwards, if it's still on, I'm like, fucking yeah,
Speaker 1: But look ship important to you? Do you watch the
Speaker 1: same clip or do you have to like have a
Speaker 1: your favorite? Oh my god, One time I came across
Speaker 1: the same one, but I had liked it before, and
Speaker 1: I was like, I like new stuff, and I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: this one was so good. I got a couple of
Speaker 1: go to because ever, I just want to come real fast,
Speaker 1: I'll just go straight to that one, Like all right,
Speaker 1: I know I'm gonna like this, But you ever see
Speaker 1: a good one and that come to a whack one
Speaker 1: and you'd be mad feeling like this was not working. Next,
Speaker 1: this was not working. Next I came this black one.
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I'm still what a way? Do you
Speaker 1: try to prolong it or do you want to come quick?
Speaker 1: I try to prolong it unless you're in a rush. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you see, when I'm masturbating, I'm not in the rush, though,
Speaker 1: He'd be like, I got home later. I didn't want
Speaker 1: to At one feeling it just last as long as
Speaker 1: it can and then I let it go. Well. My
Speaker 1: last column, one of my last colums, I wrote about
Speaker 1: going through this phase where I masturbated a lot, like
Speaker 1: but not just at home, like at work, you know,
Speaker 1: on airplane, like everywhere. Like I was just like, not
Speaker 1: not here yet, yea. But I know I hadn't had
Speaker 1: serious sex I either. I just stopped to think for
Speaker 1: a minute, if I did it as a bathroom at
Speaker 1: serious X, I'm no, I haven't. I wouldn't know I
Speaker 1: would be too much. But I knew everyone's scheduled at Penthouse,
Speaker 1: so you know, I knew when the bathroom was going
Speaker 1: to be pretty empty and stuff, and I would usually
Speaker 1: go in and do that there, and you know, no
Speaker 1: toys or anything. You know, once you know how to
Speaker 1: please yourself, like it's you know, it's like during a
Speaker 1: commercial break, you're done, Yeah you're watching. I can't nobody
Speaker 1: let me like me. That's right. That's why I have.
Speaker 1: Relationships are great too, because you're a man knows how
Speaker 1: to make you come really quick, like pretty quick, like
Speaker 1: he knows it's gonna work. And you know that if
Speaker 1: you just let it happen. Sometimes you prolong it, but
Speaker 1: you know you could just let it happen. Everybody's happy.
Speaker 1: Well you are, and that's all that matters. Have you
Speaker 1: ever came and been like all right, I'm done. No,
Speaker 1: not me unless it's my unless I'm asturbating with a
Speaker 1: guy with a guy, No, really I have like just
Speaker 1: give me a minute. I just need are those intense asks,
Speaker 1: like your soul comes? You got to be like all right,
Speaker 1: wait now, I'd be like keep going. But if like
Speaker 1: I make myself masturbate, I can't come again like after that,
Speaker 1: but it's over. Yeah, if a man makes me come,
Speaker 1: it's kind of like had if he gives me had,
Speaker 1: like don't touch my clip. We could fuck like you
Speaker 1: could put your dicken, but like if you touch my
Speaker 1: clip again, like in that in those few minutes. That's
Speaker 1: how guys are when you actually have touched with him.
Speaker 1: After the time, you don't want to be touched. Look,
Speaker 1: yeah you have your Yeah, is definitely it is it
Speaker 1: is it is. It is so landy. Do you find
Speaker 1: that Mary sex is better than all the sex you've
Speaker 1: ever had? No, it is not. I mean it's great
Speaker 1: because I can't have sex anytime I want like that
Speaker 1: I like, you know, like that, I don't have to
Speaker 1: rely on it. I don't feel like turning you down
Speaker 1: like not today, babe, I don't feel like that. No,
Speaker 1: he I will say, like, and he's older than me too,
Speaker 1: and he's in his fifties, but he's up for it
Speaker 1: any time I want, Like any time I want. If
Speaker 1: I'm there, that's and that's what's great. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: I had to rethink things and rethink about my own
Speaker 1: sexuality because I got so used to equating um, newness
Speaker 1: and strangers and strange with with exciting sex life that
Speaker 1: you know, of course, once we got you know, in
Speaker 1: the first year, that's over with somebody, you know. So
Speaker 1: I had to start thinking of things differently. And I
Speaker 1: started getting into the fact that I could, you know what.
Speaker 1: I was lucky enough to found someone who's always up
Speaker 1: for it. So I got sort of more into like
Speaker 1: being almost like a femdom kind of thing where he's
Speaker 1: downstairs watching TV and I'll be like, come up here
Speaker 1: right now, like he knows that voice, and he gets
Speaker 1: he's like, yes, miss, it's a billionaires. Yeah, yes, billions, yes,
Speaker 1: yes I know the show yea and yeah, well not
Speaker 1: that bad, but that's but um, but it's gotten more
Speaker 1: like that. So I've we've definitely had hot sex. It's
Speaker 1: just different than than my single life sex. And there
Speaker 1: is one thing that you can like try new things
Speaker 1: with someone that you trust is opposed to. You know,
Speaker 1: if I wanted to, let's say, try to get choked
Speaker 1: out really hard, I don't know if you'd do it,
Speaker 1: but if I did, you know, I would trust him
Speaker 1: to do it and kill me. Yeah, you know, but
Speaker 1: you know he's you know, so there's some things that
Speaker 1: like he watches porn and that's you know, a lot
Speaker 1: he likes it. Um, but I know there are things
Speaker 1: that he watches on porn that I'll suggest, like you
Speaker 1: can do that to me, and he's like, I don't
Speaker 1: want to do that to you. He's like, you're my laney, listen,
Speaker 1: I want to do this. I'm a tramp guy, damn it.
Speaker 1: But then every but every so often he'll be like,
Speaker 1: he's like, honey, can I piss on your tits? You know?
Speaker 1: Then I'm like, yeah, Okay, we're back to normal again,
Speaker 1: you know, like we're not we're not too we're not
Speaker 1: too like you know, we're not too precious, you know,
Speaker 1: what I mean, I think that's really me neither I've
Speaker 1: actually been asked to pe on someone and then like
Speaker 1: he did in the shower. Yeah, but you know what,
Speaker 1: for me, I don't like to pey in front of people,
Speaker 1: so it is really hard for me. But it was
Speaker 1: not easy, like it took like he was like, come
Speaker 1: on the cherry up and pee and I'm like, wait,
Speaker 1: I'm trying, like I don't just don't look at me,
Speaker 1: but I shower and my my ex like he's definitely
Speaker 1: pete on me in the shower, but I wouldn't know,
Speaker 1: like I'll be here washing due and I'm like, I
Speaker 1: feel something a little extra vitamins discussed on me. Don't
Speaker 1: like that. But he's the only person that's ever done that,
Speaker 1: and you know, always been a shut up and it's
Speaker 1: always been in the shower, but I've never been like
Speaker 1: in the bed. And it's like, I think that if
Speaker 1: I had to choose to get people, and I would
Speaker 1: want to get in the shower because you really don't
Speaker 1: even like it's not even you, not nothing. You want
Speaker 1: to realize that in the shower still it's just down right,
Speaker 1: But like he's done it numerous times and I always
Speaker 1: annoyed me because he would just start laughing and I like,
Speaker 1: you're being on me exactly, you're smirking your territory here,
Speaker 1: but just to go around like, hey, I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: on you. I don't know, like even other weird not weird,
Speaker 1: but like freaky stuff. Like I've had him be like like, oh,
Speaker 1: what can we do that's different? I want you to
Speaker 1: be the first person I do this way and I'm
Speaker 1: just like, I can't think of anything like we've done.
Speaker 1: He's like he already knows what he wants, and he said, yes,
Speaker 1: I think that that's what it is. I'm like, you
Speaker 1: know what it is that you want? What is it like?
Speaker 1: But he would never tell me. He would just always
Speaker 1: be like figure it out, fingure it out. Finger Well, Laney,
Speaker 1: we appreciate you so much, and congratulations on everything forever.
Speaker 1: So yes, it has been. It has been. And Laney
Speaker 1: actually books a lot of our guess and I was
Speaker 1: about to say, yeah, we have Lany. I love how
Speaker 1: the magazine is like so cute. Yeah, Laney spies. Let
Speaker 1: anybody know where they can follow you. You can follow
Speaker 1: me on Twitter at miss Laney and my s s
Speaker 1: l A. I and I E. And you can check
Speaker 1: out my column and the magazine, which is really cool,
Speaker 1: Strip Las Vegas at w double dot strip lv dot com.
Speaker 1: And don't get her. Damn, she's a taken woman now
Speaker 1: unless you're on Craig Flip. Yeah. Hey, those days a
Speaker 1: long blood days, he said. Alright, left service