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Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to Stuff Mom Never Told You?

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Speaker 1: From how stup works dot com? Hello, and welcome to

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Speaker 1: the podcast. This is Kristen and I'm Molly. Molly. A

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Speaker 1: few weeks ago, maybe a month ago. Now I'm lost,

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Speaker 1: total and complete track of time. What happens? I wrote

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Speaker 1: a blog post for stuff Mom Never Told you that

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Speaker 1: our blog our blog at how stuff works dot com.

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Speaker 1: You may have heard us talk about before. I wrote

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Speaker 1: a blog post in response to an email that we

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Speaker 1: got from a younger female listener asking about how you

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Speaker 1: can break your hymen. Specifically, she had heard that riding

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Speaker 1: little concerned about it. She had not had sexual intercourse before,

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Speaker 1: I believe what you row in your blog was that

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Speaker 1: you know what, a bicycle might might stretch out the hyman,

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Speaker 1: Other things might We talked about horseback riding. But what

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Speaker 1: at the time, or we might have advised that younger listener,

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Speaker 1: is Hyman's just don't matter. There are just too many

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Speaker 1: myths about Hyman's and we're going to bust them all.

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Speaker 1: And um, don't take that as a pun because you

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Speaker 1: can't even bust the hyman. The Yeah, the only thing

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Speaker 1: So let's talk about what the hyman is and what

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Speaker 1: the Hyman isn't now. I feel like what anyone who

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Speaker 1: that what they think the hyman is is something like

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Speaker 1: doesn't spoil. And the ideas that when you have sex

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Speaker 1: put that on the medical name for the highmen, we

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Speaker 1: that blood we get backed up. And no, sorry, listeners,

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