WEBVTT - Mick Shots: Finally, Football

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Nick Shot

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<v Speaker 1>screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas Cowboys apt now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Wolves,

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<v Speaker 1>and Nicky Spagnola. Are you ready for some football? We've

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<v Speaker 1>got some football at the Star in Frisco. First practice

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<v Speaker 1>of the Mike McCarthy era is in the books. And

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<v Speaker 1>Mickey Spagnola was right by the field to watch it. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>he was sort of. He had. In fact, Mickey had

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<v Speaker 1>a bird's eye view of it, better view than anybody

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<v Speaker 1>around Ford Center at the Star in Frisco. Bill Jones,

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<v Speaker 1>Everson Walls, Mickey Spagnola and Mickey. It's supposed to be

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<v Speaker 1>a high of one hundred five degrees today here in

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas Fort Worth. I think it was around eighty two

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<v Speaker 1>degrees when the Cowboys took the practice field at eight

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<v Speaker 1>o'clock this morning. So, and it was outdoors at Ford

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<v Speaker 1>Center at the Star in Frisco. But wouldn't it be

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<v Speaker 1>COVID nineteen And it is the hottest day in at

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<v Speaker 1>least two years in Dallas Fort Worth when the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>have their first training camp practice. How about that? And

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<v Speaker 1>Bill and Everson. That's a very good reason why Mike

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<v Speaker 1>McCarthy started this practice at eight o'clock in the morning,

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<v Speaker 1>because my thermometer here in Frisco said eighty three. I

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<v Speaker 1>think when they finished it was about eighty five, and

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<v Speaker 1>they had a two hour window, but they finished in

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<v Speaker 1>an hour and a half, so it wasn't that bad.

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<v Speaker 1>And one thing to remember, they've got four tents out here,

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<v Speaker 1>and judging from these big piping things from behind them,

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<v Speaker 1>they must be refrigerated, so there's some air conditioning in there.

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<v Speaker 1>And when they took a break at nine o'clock, everybody

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<v Speaker 1>went into the tents, so that's why I assume they

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<v Speaker 1>were cooling off. So they're trying to combat the heat.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you said I had a bird's eye view,

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<v Speaker 1>bird's eye is right because we're one level up and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm watching out the window from my desk because we

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<v Speaker 1>can only have one person out on the field and

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<v Speaker 1>Rob Phillips took that honor today, so the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>us watched from high above. But you know it's a

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<v Speaker 1>little different, and you guys are gonna laugh at this.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to judge my eyesight during these ota practices

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<v Speaker 1>where where you know, could be a hundred yards away

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<v Speaker 1>from the other end of the field where guys are working,

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<v Speaker 1>and I can see my eyes fading. So I said, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>now I need glasses, right, well, now I need binoculars.

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<v Speaker 1>So I got to alternate between my glasses and my

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<v Speaker 1>binoculars just to watch practice. So a little bit challenging.

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<v Speaker 1>But guess what, We're here at the start and there

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<v Speaker 1>was football on the field, and this is your first

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<v Speaker 1>time back at the Star, and I mean this week

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<v Speaker 1>is the first time back since the pandemic began. Right, well,

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<v Speaker 1>think about this. So I came back yesterday just to

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<v Speaker 1>see the protocol of how to get in, what I

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<v Speaker 1>had to do, get my temperature taken, answer a few questions,

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<v Speaker 1>make sure my mask is on, and I went and

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<v Speaker 1>sat at my desk, right and I kind of looked

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<v Speaker 1>around Bill and Everson, and you know, there was a

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<v Speaker 1>little clutter there and no one cleaned it up right

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<v Speaker 1>all this time. And then I looked at the calendar

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<v Speaker 1>and the calendar was still turned to March when time

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<v Speaker 1>stood still, and I could see my TS bags and

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<v Speaker 1>I saw the notes on my calendar, and the last

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<v Speaker 1>one I had there was Wednesday. I think it was

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<v Speaker 1>March twenty fourth, so that would have been the last

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<v Speaker 1>day I was here. I counted it up and it

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<v Speaker 1>was one hundred and forty days since I had been

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<v Speaker 1>here at the start. So yeah, it's been a while. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I flew for the first time this past weekend and

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<v Speaker 1>Brave Soul that was a herowing experience, I must say, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>And it was a little bit crowded as well. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's this is a different thing that we're dealing with, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's one I think A factor that we really

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<v Speaker 1>didn't figure into. I don't think is you know when

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<v Speaker 1>you look at the NBA and you look at how

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<v Speaker 1>some teams are adjusting better to the new schedule, to

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<v Speaker 1>the new venue than others, and then you've got the

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<v Speaker 1>Phoenix songs and breaking out there undefeated, and you've got

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<v Speaker 1>some tea that are just really not adapting well at all.

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<v Speaker 1>You have Baseball having to deal with fragmented scheduling and

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<v Speaker 1>things of that nature. I wonder, with the short practices,

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<v Speaker 1>no preseason, if I'm not mistaken, just not getting into pads,

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<v Speaker 1>how the team that adapts the best and the quickest

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<v Speaker 1>it may surprise you on the ones that are able

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<v Speaker 1>to do that, because when you look at this season

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, I guess they're going for a full season,

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<v Speaker 1>but the preparation for it, the time leading up to it,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's extremely fragmented as well. And i'd be

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<v Speaker 1>interesting to see how many injuries you're gonna look at,

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<v Speaker 1>how many people are gonna look like they're a little rusty,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm out of shape even so, I'd be very

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<v Speaker 1>interested to see how that's going to work out. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty important guys to point out that while there

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<v Speaker 1>was football practice, it was basically a mini camp practice. Helmets, shorts, jerseys,

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<v Speaker 1>so uh, they don't put the pads on, or they

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<v Speaker 1>can put the pads on on Monday. So whatever they

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<v Speaker 1>did today and whatever they do Sunday, uh it'll be

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<v Speaker 1>uh in as a mini camp ota type practice, so

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<v Speaker 1>they won't be hitting and they don't have to put

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<v Speaker 1>the pads on Monday. They get fourteen padded practices over

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<v Speaker 1>uh twenty days once the Monday arrives, so uh, they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna try to ease into this, and they've been doing

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<v Speaker 1>conditioning out on the field but not going up against

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<v Speaker 1>anybody today was the first time. The different thing to

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<v Speaker 1>try to get that timing down. You know, when you

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<v Speaker 1>try to get that timing down, it's it's totally different.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care if you're a veteran of your rookie.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you gotta you gotta get some LIXI in first,

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<v Speaker 1>and you gotta have to get a lot of them

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<v Speaker 1>in and we probably need to and we probably need

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<v Speaker 1>to qualify things because they were kind of going three

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<v Speaker 1>quarters speed maybe and there was hardly any There wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>really contact. It's like the offense and defensive lineman would

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<v Speaker 1>come up and just kind of hit, but not anything physical.

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<v Speaker 1>There wasn't really anything physical in the secondary of their linebackers.

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<v Speaker 1>It was touching up. So you're going to hear different

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<v Speaker 1>things about what took place and an interception that was thrown.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's let's qualify this, Okay, Let's not get too excited.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. I think the interesting thing about it from

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<v Speaker 1>an injury standpoint, you know, we see a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>injuries in normal years when training camp gets started, muscle pulls,

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<v Speaker 1>that sort of thing. And with the way things worked

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<v Speaker 1>out this offseason where they had no offseason except on

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<v Speaker 1>their own working out and really the veterans. Now the

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<v Speaker 1>rookies got in a week earlier than the veterans, but

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<v Speaker 1>the veterans that have been there since August first, basically

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<v Speaker 1>at the facility doing strength and conditioning and walk through

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<v Speaker 1>and so forth. And the fact that they don't have

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<v Speaker 1>preseason games that they have to prepare for initially, they

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<v Speaker 1>can afford. Actually, even it sounds strange, they can afford

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<v Speaker 1>to ease them in a little bit more. And they

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<v Speaker 1>need to ease him in a little bit more just

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure that the Bill doesn't have those injuries.

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<v Speaker 1>A few connection problems right now. But yeah, and when

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned injuries and stuff, I guess I should probably

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<v Speaker 1>give you guys an update. They did take Tyrone Crawford

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<v Speaker 1>off of physically unable to perform, so he's off of

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<v Speaker 1>POP and he was able to practice today. This was

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<v Speaker 1>his first day. Don Terry Poe is still on it.

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<v Speaker 1>He was working with Britt Brown on the resistant chords,

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<v Speaker 1>so they're taking his a little bit slow. He had

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<v Speaker 1>a I believe it was a hamstring injury to end

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<v Speaker 1>the season, so they're bringing him back. So Brandon Knight

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<v Speaker 1>was over there working with Britt along with Lale College,

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<v Speaker 1>and so from an offensive line stamp point, it was

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<v Speaker 1>basically what you would have thought, Uh, with the exception

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<v Speaker 1>of Collins not being at right tackle. Uh it was

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<v Speaker 1>Wyatt some guy I never some guy had never heard

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<v Speaker 1>of before. Okay, it was Wyatt Miller. Wyatt Miller. See

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<v Speaker 1>Miller working at right tack. Yes, yes, So from an

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<v Speaker 1>injury standpoint, though they were in they were in pretty

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<v Speaker 1>good shape because everybody else was out there. So I

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<v Speaker 1>guess I since I brought up the offensive line Tyrone Crawford, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Connor Williams, Connor McGovern kind of rotating there, Joe Looney

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<v Speaker 1>at center, uh Martin at right guard, and then Wyatt

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<v Speaker 1>Miller at right tackle. Yea, all right, Uh, okay, let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about who's not there yet, because that was the

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<v Speaker 1>breaking news on Wednesday night. We got so much of

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<v Speaker 1>Mickey's observations about what he did see from his bird's

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<v Speaker 1>eye perched there at board center. But let's talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the name the guy that's named after Everson Everson Griffin.

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<v Speaker 1>As of course, Jerry has his State of the Team

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<v Speaker 1>address earlier in the day on Wednesday, and then on

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesday night the breaking news the Cowboys sign the pass

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<v Speaker 1>rusher that they needed to sign one year up to

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<v Speaker 1>six million dollar deal, three million dollar base reportedly, and

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<v Speaker 1>Everson Griffin is a Dallas Cowboy. Now he has to

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<v Speaker 1>go through his COVID testing. I believe a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>negative COVID tests and he could be out on the

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<v Speaker 1>field as early as Tuesday, I believe. Is that right, Mickey, Yes, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>He's got to have the basically probably tested today, will

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<v Speaker 1>test tomorrow, and then test again on Monday, and then

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<v Speaker 1>if he gets the three negatives, he's allowed to be

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<v Speaker 1>back on the field on Tuesday. So you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm going to cut right to the chase. They

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<v Speaker 1>signed a bunch of guys this offseason that have been

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<v Speaker 1>former Pro Bowlers. This guy was a Pro Bowler last year,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think this might be their biggest offseason veteran

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<v Speaker 1>pick up of everybody they signed. I know, Gerald McCoy,

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<v Speaker 1>Don Terry po Haha, Clinton Dix, but this guy was productive,

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<v Speaker 1>had eight sacks last year. And this is the key

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<v Speaker 1>thing for me. And you guys know Mike Zimmer. Mike

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<v Speaker 1>Zimmer doesn't mince words and he doesn't just say stuff

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<v Speaker 1>to say stuff to be politically correct. So when he

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<v Speaker 1>came out several weeks ago and said, we want Everson

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<v Speaker 1>Griffin back on this team, we want him here, then

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<v Speaker 1>to me, that kind of qualified that this guy still

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<v Speaker 1>got something ten years in the league, thirty two years old,

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<v Speaker 1>be really interested to see what he's able to do

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<v Speaker 1>once he gets here. How did you find that out? Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>apparently we lost Everson. Apparently we lost Everson. So just

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<v Speaker 1>one that was important because I wanted to find out

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<v Speaker 1>Jill how he how he knew he was named after

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<v Speaker 1>Everson Walls. Now we'll get Everson back here, Shorty got

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<v Speaker 1>you and h But I agree Mickey though that that

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<v Speaker 1>Everson Griffin is the key signing of this offseason defensively.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, one of the things about the Vikings,

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<v Speaker 1>uh my guy in the draft a few years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel Hunter plays on the other side for the Vikings

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<v Speaker 1>as about fifty sacks early in his career, and probably

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<v Speaker 1>one of the big reasons that Daniel Hunter has as

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<v Speaker 1>many sacks as he has is because Everson Griffin has

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<v Speaker 1>been on the other side and he's averaged. Griffin has

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<v Speaker 1>averaged ten sacks a season over the last six years.

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<v Speaker 1>But Everson Walls back with us now, and you know

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<v Speaker 1>he was Everson Griffin was a fourth round pick out

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<v Speaker 1>of USC and has had some issues along the way.

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<v Speaker 1>But as long as he is on board and and help,

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<v Speaker 1>he sounds just like his namesakes. I had a few

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<v Speaker 1>He sounds just like his namesake. I had a few

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<v Speaker 1>issues along the way as well, So that was part

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<v Speaker 1>of the course. But but I can't say that early on.

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<v Speaker 1>You're right, Bill, he did have some issues. He had

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<v Speaker 1>to grow up a little bit, had some issues off

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<v Speaker 1>the field as well, and then all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 1>he got it. And I really think that had a

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<v Speaker 1>lot to do with Mike Zimmer. I think spacts you

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned them earlier. I think that that defense, we saw it,

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<v Speaker 1>how well they played against the Cowboys last year, how

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<v Speaker 1>they they had these great athletes on the defensive line

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<v Speaker 1>and they were a catalyst, uh for that success on

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<v Speaker 1>that defense. One thing I like about him coming from Minneapolis,

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<v Speaker 1>from Minnesota here to here is I like how uh

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<v Speaker 1>with with the new defensive coordinator Nolan, that we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to have I think the similar style, very unpredictable blitzes,

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<v Speaker 1>which will allow things so open up for your defensive

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<v Speaker 1>lineman as well. More aggressiveness. Of course, you know I

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<v Speaker 1>was always complaining about the Cowboys defense previous years. I

0:15:08.080 --> 0:15:10.840
<v Speaker 1>think we're going to get back to the aggressiveness that

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<v Speaker 1>we need, and that's that really posed as well for Everson. So, Everson,

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<v Speaker 1>two questions for you. One, how did you find out

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<v Speaker 1>he was named after you? And two? How many other

0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:28.640
<v Speaker 1>Eversons have you run into in your life? Well, my

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<v Speaker 1>old agent, Steve Weinberg, you know, he was a pest

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<v Speaker 1>to Gil Brand and his text ram for quite some time.

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<v Speaker 1>As my representative, he was still out there, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to make make make his name, get his name

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<v Speaker 1>out there and get some clients. And he was the

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<v Speaker 1>one that approached Everson Griffin and asked him a question.

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<v Speaker 1>And his parents just happened to be major Cowboy fans.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know maybe the uniqueness of my name,

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<v Speaker 1>but the parents themselves, they settled on calling him Everson

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, being a Cowboys fan, but of course being

0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:09.920
<v Speaker 1>an Everson Walls fan as well. So I knew about

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<v Speaker 1>him as he was coming out of USC and it

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty cool. So of course, you know me, I

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<v Speaker 1>have to do a search on how many Eversons are

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<v Speaker 1>out there, you know, so I looked it up a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit and went on Facebook, of course, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>a few. One guy, I know, it's one Everson. I

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<v Speaker 1>had a picture sent to me back in nineteen eighty

0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:39.200
<v Speaker 1>two and a young kid named Everson Eiders Marsh he was.

0:16:39.240 --> 0:16:42.480
<v Speaker 1>It was mailed to my home and he was also

0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:46.000
<v Speaker 1>named after me. And I've also been named as a

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<v Speaker 1>one of two twins just recently was born right before

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<v Speaker 1>this whole COVID thing with. So what's the story behind

0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:05.960
<v Speaker 1>your parents naming you Everson? We lost Everson again? You know.

0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:09.040
<v Speaker 1>One of the things, Uh, Mickey, you may recall this

0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:15.960
<v Speaker 1>early in Everson's career, TV broadcasters oftentimes mistook his name

0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:19.320
<v Speaker 1>and would call him Emerson Walls inside, Everson Walls. You

0:17:19.320 --> 0:17:23.239
<v Speaker 1>remember Emerson Boozer. Yeah, Everson Boozer. That's exactly what I

0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:26.280
<v Speaker 1>was thinking of. But Everson Griffin is a great pickup

0:17:26.320 --> 0:17:29.520
<v Speaker 1>I think for this team, and really, Mickey, when you

0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:33.199
<v Speaker 1>look at what this team has done, let's let's go

0:17:33.280 --> 0:17:37.080
<v Speaker 1>this route on this. Think about Dak Prescott's contract and

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<v Speaker 1>the thirty one point four million dollars because he is

0:17:40.000 --> 0:17:42.680
<v Speaker 1>franchise tag, I think he give a lot of credit

0:17:43.080 --> 0:17:46.520
<v Speaker 1>to the way Stephen Jones and think Will McClay the Cowboys.

0:17:46.800 --> 0:17:50.639
<v Speaker 1>They have worked this roster this offseason where they even

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<v Speaker 1>though they knew there was a possibility that Dak was

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<v Speaker 1>going to count that much against the cap, they have

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<v Speaker 1>managed this roster and the salaries on the roster to

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<v Speaker 1>the point that here as training camp starts, they're able

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<v Speaker 1>to bring on a big time veteran talent at a

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<v Speaker 1>position of need and sign him and have that kind

0:18:10.640 --> 0:18:13.960
<v Speaker 1>of money available because there's not a lot of teams

0:18:13.960 --> 0:18:17.040
<v Speaker 1>that could that could do that. And when you're you know,

0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:19.600
<v Speaker 1>you're thinking that, Okay, you might be able, you know

0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:23.040
<v Speaker 1>this contract that you're trying to negotiate with your quarterback,

0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:25.119
<v Speaker 1>you might be able to free up some space. But

0:18:25.240 --> 0:18:27.600
<v Speaker 1>for them to have the foresight that, hey, if we

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<v Speaker 1>don't get a deal done, we still need money to

0:18:29.560 --> 0:18:31.440
<v Speaker 1>add to this team. I give them a lot of

0:18:31.480 --> 0:18:33.879
<v Speaker 1>credit to be able to do that. Yeah, and we

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<v Speaker 1>have to remember it's kind of a one year, proven deal,

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<v Speaker 1>sort of what they did with Robert Quinn last year,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's it's will count three million for sure, it's guaranteed,

0:18:46.600 --> 0:18:49.840
<v Speaker 1>and then he has a per game bonus that can

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<v Speaker 1>count another three million if he gets all the games.

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<v Speaker 1>So basically, for potentially six million dollars, they got a

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<v Speaker 1>replacement for at least a replacement that played last year

0:19:02.160 --> 0:19:04.800
<v Speaker 1>in the league at a high level for Robert Quinn,

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<v Speaker 1>who was counting a bill if I remember, it was

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<v Speaker 1>like seven and a half million maybe last year or

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<v Speaker 1>something like that. So yeah, it's it's kind of a

0:19:13.119 --> 0:19:18.240
<v Speaker 1>sweetheart deal. And obviously, you know, he opted out of

0:19:18.359 --> 0:19:22.000
<v Speaker 1>his contract that he had going in Minnesota to allow

0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:25.240
<v Speaker 1>him to become a free agent, and he took that

0:19:25.359 --> 0:19:29.760
<v Speaker 1>deal and played for less last year. So yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>look at it this way. Coming into today, that right

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<v Speaker 1>defensive end spot had a big question mark up there, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll tell you how they lined up today. Over there,

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<v Speaker 1>Alden Smith lined up with the first team at right

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<v Speaker 1>defensive end. And he hadn't played any football since twenty fifteen.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, he's wearing fifty eight and they've

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<v Speaker 1>got him listed at two eighty. He doesn't look, from

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<v Speaker 1>my bird's eye view more than two hundred sixty pounds.

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<v Speaker 1>He looks just the way you're supposed to look at

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<v Speaker 1>defensive end. And then, because I'm guessing them signing Everson

0:20:11.520 --> 0:20:16.560
<v Speaker 1>Griffin and counting on Alden Smith. Tyrone Crawford, who I

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned came off of PUP today. He was the other

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<v Speaker 1>first team defensive tackle with Gerald McCoy since done. Terry

0:20:24.200 --> 0:20:26.959
<v Speaker 1>Poe is still on PUP. So that shows you the

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<v Speaker 1>versatility of Crawford, But what they think of Alden Smith

0:20:30.880 --> 0:20:34.679
<v Speaker 1>and after that, then it's guys that you know, didn't

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<v Speaker 1>do much at all last year. So to bring this

0:20:37.560 --> 0:20:41.280
<v Speaker 1>guy in and have a proven talent and put a

0:20:41.440 --> 0:20:45.760
<v Speaker 1>rotation there, I thought it was huge. You know, to

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<v Speaker 1>hear what you say that he looks more like he's

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<v Speaker 1>two sixty than two eighty, I think that is really encouraging,

0:20:51.440 --> 0:20:55.480
<v Speaker 1>because you know, there were the reports after the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>signed him that he was like two hundred and eighty

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<v Speaker 1>five pounds or something. I said, if he's two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>eighty five pounds, then he is he's more of a

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<v Speaker 1>five technique than he is and edge rusher. And to

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<v Speaker 1>hear but to hear that he looks like to Mickey's

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<v Speaker 1>bird's eye view, closer to two sixty. And I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>seen the official weight that he added at his physical,

0:21:15.840 --> 0:21:19.840
<v Speaker 1>but I think that is really really great news to

0:21:20.040 --> 0:21:23.080
<v Speaker 1>hear that he's in that kind of condition. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think not with him anyway, He's got that great

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<v Speaker 1>athletic ability, so he could probably just make make two

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<v Speaker 1>eighty five look like two sixty because he's just been

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<v Speaker 1>that exceptional. But what I like about what the coach

0:21:36.280 --> 0:21:40.320
<v Speaker 1>McCarthy's doing is he's bringing in the veterans. And the

0:21:40.320 --> 0:21:42.840
<v Speaker 1>thing about bringing in veterans, you have guys you can trust,

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<v Speaker 1>you understand. You want to make sure that you have

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<v Speaker 1>guys that you can trust. And they may not always,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, play consistently necessarily every game because some of

0:21:53.480 --> 0:21:56.760
<v Speaker 1>them are a little bit older, uh in in in

0:21:56.920 --> 0:21:59.560
<v Speaker 1>their careers, but what you can look at is they

0:21:59.600 --> 0:22:02.600
<v Speaker 1>will know the gravity of the moment. And that's one

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<v Speaker 1>thing that Parcells has always done, one thing that Belichick

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<v Speaker 1>has always done. They brought in veterans who understand the

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<v Speaker 1>gravity of the moment and you can trust them to

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<v Speaker 1>be in position every time that you need a play done.

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<v Speaker 1>And also these guys can bring along the young kids

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<v Speaker 1>in there and make sure that they understand, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>what it is to be a professional. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>what coach McCarthy's doing, it's a great game plan. Working

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<v Speaker 1>with Will, working with McLay and how he's bringing these

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<v Speaker 1>these quality veterans in and able to fit them under

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<v Speaker 1>the cap. This is this is looking pretty good, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>When you when you look at the entire architectural piece

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<v Speaker 1>of it's coming together very well. Okay, if if if

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<v Speaker 1>these a thirty something guys can stay healthy. Did the

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<v Speaker 1>math on it. There's fifteen Pro bowls on this defensive line. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the Marcus Lawrence with a couple, Gerald McCoy with six,

0:22:59.600 --> 0:23:02.800
<v Speaker 1>Dantee Jerry Poe with a couple, Everson Griffin with four

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<v Speaker 1>Pro bowls, Alden Smith one Pro Bowl in his career.

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<v Speaker 1>I total it up, there are fifteen of Pro Bowl

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<v Speaker 1>accolades on that defensive line. That's a lot of playmakers.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a lot of playmate. Yes, now we'll see, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>see if they'll play at that Pro Bowl level. As

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<v Speaker 1>we get going here, all right, time to take a

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<v Speaker 1>much to get to. We're going to take you all

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<v Speaker 1>the way up to noon. And all right, we talked

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<v Speaker 1>a lot about the defensive line and the signing of

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<v Speaker 1>Everson Griffin. How about we switched to the offensive side.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you're following Cowboys Twitter, by the way, rules

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<v Speaker 1>against for the media. There are rules against being able

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<v Speaker 1>to a shoot video off their camera their phone during practice,

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<v Speaker 1>and they can't tweet during practice. And so you can

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<v Speaker 1>always tell when practice is over because the Todd Archers,

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<v Speaker 1>Jade Slatter's, David Moore's of the Clarence Hills of the world,

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<v Speaker 1>they're all immediately John Mutchiel, They're they're all tweeting as

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<v Speaker 1>soon as so about ten twenty this morning, all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden, you start seeing all these tweets from practice.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like they had these notes or they got the

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<v Speaker 1>tweets looted, ready to go, and then they can release

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<v Speaker 1>them right with practice is over. It was funny, but

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<v Speaker 1>one of the number one things did Mickey, did you

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<v Speaker 1>see ced Lamb with a one hitted catch on the sideline?

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<v Speaker 1>All I know, Bill and I remember when they drafted

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<v Speaker 1>Cede Lamb. My column right after that basically said, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't wait to the first time the Cowboys line up

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<v Speaker 1>on September thirteenth and Dak Prescott, you know whatever the

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<v Speaker 1>call is at the line of scrimmage three eighty one,

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<v Speaker 1>three eighty one, I said, I'm gonna see Michael Gallop

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<v Speaker 1>to one side, a Marie Coop to the left side,

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<v Speaker 1>and Cede Lamb in the slot. Well, when they first

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<v Speaker 1>lined up for the first kind of skeleton drill, that's

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<v Speaker 1>exactly how they lined up. They're not messing around. Number

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<v Speaker 1>eighty eight was out on the field with the first

0:28:08.280 --> 0:28:12.680
<v Speaker 1>team offense, and not only did he catch a one

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<v Speaker 1>handed pass, but he was catching everything thrown his way.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know the thing that impressed me most about it, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, when you hear about a guy that

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<v Speaker 1>has talent like that, you kind of think of a

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<v Speaker 1>guy that's five eleven, one seventy. This guy's big, he's tall,

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't look like your average slot receiver, the little

0:28:35.240 --> 0:28:38.880
<v Speaker 1>munchkin guy that can go in and out and real shifty.

0:28:38.960 --> 0:28:42.480
<v Speaker 1>This guy's got some size to him. So yes, right

0:28:42.520 --> 0:28:46.440
<v Speaker 1>away he was right there with the first team offense. Hey, Everson,

0:28:46.560 --> 0:28:49.680
<v Speaker 1>I love it when Mickey starts talking about little munchkin guys.

0:28:51.000 --> 0:28:53.240
<v Speaker 1>I would have been a slot receiver if I had

0:28:53.280 --> 0:28:56.680
<v Speaker 1>some speed. You would have been a slot receiver. Maybe

0:28:56.720 --> 0:28:59.280
<v Speaker 1>if you were born as another person. Yeah, that's probably

0:28:59.280 --> 0:29:01.680
<v Speaker 1>what would happen now. But but one thing I can

0:29:01.760 --> 0:29:04.480
<v Speaker 1>say about Ceedee Lamb. You talk about the style that

0:29:04.520 --> 0:29:08.640
<v Speaker 1>he has, why he's so well fit for the slot.

0:29:09.480 --> 0:29:11.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, when you think about a guy like Michael Johnson,

0:29:11.760 --> 0:29:14.400
<v Speaker 1>the way he ran track and the way his stride

0:29:14.480 --> 0:29:17.320
<v Speaker 1>was so unique. It allowed him to have an advantage

0:29:17.320 --> 0:29:20.680
<v Speaker 1>because he kept his feet on the ground. When you

0:29:20.720 --> 0:29:22.800
<v Speaker 1>look at Ceedee Lamb and you look at the score

0:29:22.920 --> 0:29:26.600
<v Speaker 1>the plays that he made in college, one thing that

0:29:26.640 --> 0:29:31.520
<v Speaker 1>you could see was he was deceptively elusive. It didn't

0:29:31.520 --> 0:29:33.479
<v Speaker 1>look like he was running as fast as he was running,

0:29:33.520 --> 0:29:36.080
<v Speaker 1>just like Michael Johnson. But when you keep your feet

0:29:36.120 --> 0:29:40.440
<v Speaker 1>on the ground, you have more power with each stride.

0:29:40.720 --> 0:29:42.760
<v Speaker 1>So that's why he was able to play so many

0:29:42.800 --> 0:29:46.360
<v Speaker 1>tackles along with of course his size that you just

0:29:46.400 --> 0:29:49.600
<v Speaker 1>spoke of. So you know, this guy's gonna just fit

0:29:49.760 --> 0:29:55.240
<v Speaker 1>right in with the Cowboys offensive scheme. And once again,

0:29:55.440 --> 0:29:58.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how many games the Cowboys are gonna win,

0:29:58.360 --> 0:30:01.920
<v Speaker 1>but once again, they're gonna be excit offensively and it's

0:30:01.920 --> 0:30:03.320
<v Speaker 1>going to be a lot of balls going up in

0:30:03.360 --> 0:30:06.960
<v Speaker 1>the end. So you can expect that to increase with

0:30:07.040 --> 0:30:09.400
<v Speaker 1>the kind of talent that we just attained. And let

0:30:09.440 --> 0:30:12.840
<v Speaker 1>me add one more thing about CD Lamb. When they

0:30:12.840 --> 0:30:15.880
<v Speaker 1>were doing special teams guests, who was back there catching

0:30:15.960 --> 0:30:19.520
<v Speaker 1>tun puns? Yep, yeah, absolutely, and that's what he did

0:30:19.560 --> 0:30:22.280
<v Speaker 1>at Oklahoma too, And me being an ou alum, I

0:30:22.360 --> 0:30:24.800
<v Speaker 1>watched every one of his games in college. You know,

0:30:25.000 --> 0:30:28.040
<v Speaker 1>when everyone's making a big deal about Marquise Hollywood Brown

0:30:28.120 --> 0:30:30.080
<v Speaker 1>with the Ravens, who is a first round draft pick

0:30:30.160 --> 0:30:33.600
<v Speaker 1>the year before, and what a terrific talent he is,

0:30:33.640 --> 0:30:36.560
<v Speaker 1>and take nothing away from him, he is a terrific talent,

0:30:36.680 --> 0:30:40.400
<v Speaker 1>especially as a deep threat. And Tony O'brown's cousin, I said, well,

0:30:40.440 --> 0:30:43.160
<v Speaker 1>just wait until CD comes out because I thought, you know,

0:30:43.200 --> 0:30:45.360
<v Speaker 1>CD the first time I saw him at OU as

0:30:45.360 --> 0:30:48.880
<v Speaker 1>a true freshman. I went, Wow, who's that guy? And really,

0:30:48.960 --> 0:30:51.200
<v Speaker 1>when you go back and look at what he did

0:30:51.240 --> 0:30:56.280
<v Speaker 1>in high school at Houston in Houston, unbelievable, the numbers

0:30:56.320 --> 0:30:58.719
<v Speaker 1>that he put up in high school. And so he

0:30:58.760 --> 0:31:02.320
<v Speaker 1>just continued that, uh into college, and I expect him

0:31:02.360 --> 0:31:05.480
<v Speaker 1>to continue that. Now there's only one football to go around.

0:31:05.920 --> 0:31:11.000
<v Speaker 1>But I think, assuming that that he stays healthy, even

0:31:11.040 --> 0:31:13.640
<v Speaker 1>without this offseason, I think he can be a guy

0:31:14.000 --> 0:31:17.120
<v Speaker 1>who can make an immediate impact of first game when

0:31:17.120 --> 0:31:19.800
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys open the season in LA against the Rams

0:31:19.840 --> 0:31:23.640
<v Speaker 1>now less than a month from now. Mickey, Well, absolutely,

0:31:23.800 --> 0:31:28.240
<v Speaker 1>and uh, you know he's going to be a guy

0:31:28.400 --> 0:31:31.040
<v Speaker 1>that and and how about this, We've gone this far

0:31:31.760 --> 0:31:34.440
<v Speaker 1>and I haven't said the quarterback's name yet, but I

0:31:34.480 --> 0:31:38.200
<v Speaker 1>was gonna say Dak Prescott pointed out when he when

0:31:38.240 --> 0:31:42.640
<v Speaker 1>he was asked during his UH conference call on Wednesday

0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:47.080
<v Speaker 1>with Ceedee, Lamb and Gallup and Cooper and Zeke, uh

0:31:47.600 --> 0:31:50.640
<v Speaker 1>do you have enough footballs to go around? That he said,

0:31:50.680 --> 0:31:53.880
<v Speaker 1>I only need one football. And these guys, Uh, they're

0:31:53.920 --> 0:31:58.680
<v Speaker 1>they're not greedy. Uh, they're not egotistical. They're team players.

0:31:59.040 --> 0:32:02.240
<v Speaker 1>And that's the great thing about the group they have

0:32:02.920 --> 0:32:06.920
<v Speaker 1>because the flexibility they're going to have on offense, uh

0:32:07.200 --> 0:32:09.120
<v Speaker 1>is going to be something we haven't seen in quite

0:32:09.160 --> 0:32:13.440
<v Speaker 1>some time. All right, do we have Everson back there?

0:32:15.160 --> 0:32:17.720
<v Speaker 1>I think he's working on it, right, he's working on it.

0:32:17.800 --> 0:32:23.000
<v Speaker 1>Ever he's off right now, all you, Micky. There's been

0:32:23.000 --> 0:32:26.120
<v Speaker 1>a lot of talk about the chances that the Cowboys

0:32:26.120 --> 0:32:30.960
<v Speaker 1>could have a trio of one thousand yard receivers um

0:32:31.520 --> 0:32:34.120
<v Speaker 1>and actually they came very close to it last year,

0:32:34.200 --> 0:32:36.440
<v Speaker 1>even with Randall Cobb. You know, if Randall Cobb, if

0:32:36.480 --> 0:32:39.560
<v Speaker 1>he hadn't had those uh those big plays that were

0:32:39.560 --> 0:32:41.720
<v Speaker 1>called back by penalty, the Cowboys would have had a

0:32:41.720 --> 0:32:44.320
<v Speaker 1>trio of a thousand yard receivers last year. Right. That's

0:32:44.320 --> 0:32:48.040
<v Speaker 1>why I I didn't understand why everybody was astounded, uh

0:32:48.440 --> 0:32:53.560
<v Speaker 1>that that that was said by by Maury Cooper, because

0:32:53.560 --> 0:32:57.120
<v Speaker 1>you're exactly right, the Onlie came up like one hundred

0:32:57.120 --> 0:33:00.280
<v Speaker 1>and seventy yards short of having three guys last year.

0:33:00.600 --> 0:33:02.400
<v Speaker 1>And then the other point was, well, if you have

0:33:02.560 --> 0:33:05.400
<v Speaker 1>three one thousand yard receivers, are you not giving the

0:33:05.400 --> 0:33:09.600
<v Speaker 1>ball to Zeke? Well, Zeke gained thirteen almost fourteen hundred

0:33:09.640 --> 0:33:13.000
<v Speaker 1>yards last year and they almost had three one thousand

0:33:13.080 --> 0:33:16.160
<v Speaker 1>yard receivers. And you're right, Bill, he had so many

0:33:16.200 --> 0:33:19.760
<v Speaker 1>passes called back by penalty that were not on him

0:33:20.040 --> 0:33:22.880
<v Speaker 1>that I guarantee you it was at least one hundred

0:33:22.920 --> 0:33:25.880
<v Speaker 1>and seventy yards worth and probably a couple more touchdowns.

0:33:25.920 --> 0:33:29.880
<v Speaker 1>So I think that, uh, you know, as Cooper said,

0:33:30.200 --> 0:33:35.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, those are the expectations, and why not. You know.

0:33:36.600 --> 0:33:38.920
<v Speaker 1>Another thing as far as the receiving corps goes, is

0:33:39.000 --> 0:33:43.720
<v Speaker 1>Blake Jarwin. And I think I think if Jarwin stays healthy,

0:33:44.160 --> 0:33:47.680
<v Speaker 1>he's for sure doubling his receptions from last year. When

0:33:47.720 --> 0:33:50.880
<v Speaker 1>you when you factor in that Jason Witton always had

0:33:50.920 --> 0:33:54.440
<v Speaker 1>at least sixty catches and jars was in the low

0:33:54.520 --> 0:33:57.280
<v Speaker 1>thirties last year. He's going to double that. But how

0:33:57.280 --> 0:34:01.080
<v Speaker 1>about this, mickey, when you look at the contracts being

0:34:01.200 --> 0:34:05.120
<v Speaker 1>signed by tight ends, these receiving tight ends around the league.

0:34:05.120 --> 0:34:09.239
<v Speaker 1>This week, George Kittle gets a se reset the market

0:34:09.280 --> 0:34:13.200
<v Speaker 1>fifteen million dollars a year. Travis Kelsey on the heels

0:34:13.200 --> 0:34:16.160
<v Speaker 1>of that, gets an extension. He's now averaging fourteen million

0:34:16.160 --> 0:34:18.520
<v Speaker 1>a year. And one of the things the Cowboys did

0:34:18.600 --> 0:34:22.319
<v Speaker 1>early this offseason before pre agency hit, of course, Blake

0:34:22.440 --> 0:34:25.759
<v Speaker 1>Jarwin was a restricted free agent, they signed into a

0:34:25.800 --> 0:34:28.360
<v Speaker 1>three year, twenty four million dollar deal, and that was

0:34:28.360 --> 0:34:32.560
<v Speaker 1>a very shrewd move. Oh absolutely, you know. And if

0:34:32.600 --> 0:34:36.080
<v Speaker 1>you think about the plays he made last year, and

0:34:36.160 --> 0:34:40.880
<v Speaker 1>he wasn't the primary tight end target with Jason Witten

0:34:41.480 --> 0:34:44.600
<v Speaker 1>taking the majority of the snaps. There their ability to

0:34:44.680 --> 0:34:49.440
<v Speaker 1>stretch the field with the tight end. And again, you know,

0:34:50.160 --> 0:34:53.000
<v Speaker 1>you go three wide and I'll guarantee you that's going

0:34:53.080 --> 0:34:56.080
<v Speaker 1>to be their base offense for the majority of it.

0:34:56.480 --> 0:34:59.000
<v Speaker 1>You got to take a linebacker off the field. So

0:34:59.080 --> 0:35:01.960
<v Speaker 1>do you have a line backer that can cover Jarwin?

0:35:02.160 --> 0:35:05.680
<v Speaker 1>Do you have a safety big enough to cover Jarwin?

0:35:05.920 --> 0:35:08.040
<v Speaker 1>And oh, by the way, what happens if they hand

0:35:08.080 --> 0:35:10.759
<v Speaker 1>the ball to Zeke and you got a linebacker out

0:35:10.800 --> 0:35:13.360
<v Speaker 1>of there trying to cover the tight end and you

0:35:13.480 --> 0:35:16.439
<v Speaker 1>got one linebacker trying to take care of the running game.

0:35:16.560 --> 0:35:20.640
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I just I'm expecting big things from this

0:35:20.719 --> 0:35:24.480
<v Speaker 1>offense and I'd be disappointed if that didn't happen. That's

0:35:24.520 --> 0:35:27.399
<v Speaker 1>why I think the key to this entire season, as

0:35:27.440 --> 0:35:30.959
<v Speaker 1>I've been saying, is how well this defense place and

0:35:31.080 --> 0:35:34.759
<v Speaker 1>if they can up their game and actually get some takeaways.

0:35:34.800 --> 0:35:38.680
<v Speaker 1>And if you remember when Layton vander esh was talking about,

0:35:39.600 --> 0:35:42.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, the defensive plays. He said, with this offense

0:35:43.280 --> 0:35:45.919
<v Speaker 1>that we have, we've got to get the ball back

0:35:45.960 --> 0:35:49.400
<v Speaker 1>to them, and imagine if they can get some takeaways

0:35:49.400 --> 0:35:53.120
<v Speaker 1>and if they can get some interceptions, right, can say

0:35:54.640 --> 0:35:57.440
<v Speaker 1>and I get a cornerback to get half as many

0:35:57.480 --> 0:36:02.120
<v Speaker 1>as Everson Walls had his rookie season. Of course, I

0:36:02.239 --> 0:36:05.680
<v Speaker 1>said that all last years, as great as that offense was,

0:36:06.239 --> 0:36:09.520
<v Speaker 1>we still needed your Your offense is still gonna need

0:36:09.520 --> 0:36:13.319
<v Speaker 1>a defense. I mean, Joe Montana still needed Ronnie Lott

0:36:13.520 --> 0:36:16.560
<v Speaker 1>and and and Dean and Fred Dean. You know, he

0:36:16.680 --> 0:36:19.560
<v Speaker 1>still needed a great defenses to set him up for

0:36:19.600 --> 0:36:23.000
<v Speaker 1>the plays. Even Tom Brady there were times when he

0:36:23.160 --> 0:36:26.759
<v Speaker 1>actually needed some help from his defense, especially last year.

0:36:27.239 --> 0:36:31.040
<v Speaker 1>This offense. Even though our defense had great numbers for

0:36:31.080 --> 0:36:34.319
<v Speaker 1>some reason we always rank highly, it was when we

0:36:34.400 --> 0:36:37.560
<v Speaker 1>needed to make those plays. I think that's the difference.

0:36:37.560 --> 0:36:40.520
<v Speaker 1>We have a defense now, I think is set up

0:36:40.760 --> 0:36:43.200
<v Speaker 1>to help these guys win plays. And when you start

0:36:43.280 --> 0:36:46.960
<v Speaker 1>talking about our tight end, and I've always liked him

0:36:47.000 --> 0:36:50.600
<v Speaker 1>and how well he played, h I think when you

0:36:50.640 --> 0:36:54.120
<v Speaker 1>compare him to those other tight ends, he still needs

0:36:54.520 --> 0:36:57.399
<v Speaker 1>to have a little bit more a little bit more

0:36:57.440 --> 0:37:01.080
<v Speaker 1>bulk because he needs to be a better If he

0:37:01.160 --> 0:37:03.880
<v Speaker 1>becomes a better blocker, then you can put him up

0:37:03.880 --> 0:37:07.560
<v Speaker 1>there in the category with those guys that just sign

0:37:07.800 --> 0:37:10.920
<v Speaker 1>those big contracts, because Jarwin, to me, one of the

0:37:11.040 --> 0:37:14.680
<v Speaker 1>more athletic, especially down the field tight ends that you

0:37:14.760 --> 0:37:17.520
<v Speaker 1>ever want to see. So now you've got a chance

0:37:17.560 --> 0:37:20.920
<v Speaker 1>to be a double threat like Jason Witten, like Kittle,

0:37:21.239 --> 0:37:23.719
<v Speaker 1>like Gronkowski. Those are the kind of guys you want

0:37:23.719 --> 0:37:26.239
<v Speaker 1>to live up to. So he's got to improve that

0:37:26.320 --> 0:37:28.719
<v Speaker 1>part of them to be the complete player that I

0:37:28.800 --> 0:37:31.480
<v Speaker 1>think he can be. That that's exactly right, and let

0:37:31.520 --> 0:37:36.319
<v Speaker 1>me clarify my point assuming because there's risk involved in

0:37:36.360 --> 0:37:39.759
<v Speaker 1>that end signing Jarwin to that contract, but they are

0:37:39.840 --> 0:37:43.440
<v Speaker 1>betting on his potential. They see that he's got that

0:37:43.520 --> 0:37:47.560
<v Speaker 1>potential and if they hit on him over the next

0:37:47.600 --> 0:37:50.200
<v Speaker 1>three years, he's making a half the amount of money

0:37:50.280 --> 0:37:52.400
<v Speaker 1>that the top tight ends in the league are making,

0:37:53.200 --> 0:37:56.359
<v Speaker 1>and they're betting on him having that production. It's also

0:37:56.400 --> 0:37:59.640
<v Speaker 1>going to be interesting, ever send to see how much

0:38:00.040 --> 0:38:03.040
<v Speaker 1>McCarthy in this offense with Kelly Moore as the offensive coordinator,

0:38:03.040 --> 0:38:07.520
<v Speaker 1>are going to use the two tight end formation twelve personnel.

0:38:08.040 --> 0:38:11.239
<v Speaker 1>Of course, they without witting they signed Blake Bell, who

0:38:11.320 --> 0:38:14.680
<v Speaker 1>was Travis Kelsey's back up at Kansas City, and they

0:38:14.719 --> 0:38:17.279
<v Speaker 1>also have Dalton Schultz at tight end, so it's going

0:38:17.360 --> 0:38:20.759
<v Speaker 1>to be interesting. Also a very decent athletic receiver as well.

0:38:20.800 --> 0:38:26.319
<v Speaker 1>I like Sheeltz as well. Very good, Mickey. Any other

0:38:26.400 --> 0:38:32.000
<v Speaker 1>observations that you saw, Yes, absolutely, Since we started talking

0:38:32.040 --> 0:38:36.480
<v Speaker 1>about takeaways and interceptions, we're gonna go right off Everson

0:38:36.520 --> 0:38:39.839
<v Speaker 1>Walls Alley here and talk about the cornerbacks and the secondary.

0:38:40.120 --> 0:38:44.279
<v Speaker 1>How they lined up. So the first skeleton drill basically

0:38:44.480 --> 0:38:48.640
<v Speaker 1>was the same as when they went somewhat eleven on eleven.

0:38:48.920 --> 0:38:53.040
<v Speaker 1>Shitab E Woozier was the first cornerback on the left side.

0:38:53.400 --> 0:38:56.960
<v Speaker 1>On the right side, the first cornerback up was Anthony

0:38:57.040 --> 0:39:00.719
<v Speaker 1>Brown with Jordan Lewis in the slot. But as they

0:39:00.800 --> 0:39:05.359
<v Speaker 1>moved along, Bo Whorley, the free agent corner the Cowboys

0:39:05.360 --> 0:39:10.319
<v Speaker 1>signed who started for the Raiders last year, rotated in

0:39:10.400 --> 0:39:14.320
<v Speaker 1>with the first team at cornerback on the left side,

0:39:14.640 --> 0:39:18.920
<v Speaker 1>and then the rookie Trayvon Diggs rotated in with Anthony Brown.

0:39:19.600 --> 0:39:23.400
<v Speaker 1>On the right side, it was Haja Clinton Dix along

0:39:23.440 --> 0:39:27.480
<v Speaker 1>with Xavier Woods at safety, and then Thompson and Donovan

0:39:27.560 --> 0:39:30.880
<v Speaker 1>Wilson came in with the second group, which, by the way,

0:39:31.120 --> 0:39:34.080
<v Speaker 1>Donovan Wilson picked up where he left off in training

0:39:34.120 --> 0:39:36.799
<v Speaker 1>camp last year and picked off a pass and I

0:39:36.840 --> 0:39:39.759
<v Speaker 1>believe it was on dec if my bird's eye view

0:39:39.920 --> 0:39:43.560
<v Speaker 1>was accurate. So that's kind of how they lined up

0:39:43.560 --> 0:39:47.160
<v Speaker 1>at cornerback. And you know, Everson, I think that position

0:39:47.239 --> 0:39:51.920
<v Speaker 1>there might be the most competitive position for playing time,

0:39:52.000 --> 0:39:55.440
<v Speaker 1>for starting jobs that the Cowboys might have because Daryl

0:39:55.440 --> 0:39:58.719
<v Speaker 1>Whorley is a good corner should have be a wooz.

0:39:59.560 --> 0:40:01.520
<v Speaker 1>I keep hearing this about how they're going to move

0:40:01.600 --> 0:40:03.840
<v Speaker 1>him to safety. Well, if they move them to safety,

0:40:04.120 --> 0:40:07.239
<v Speaker 1>he's not starting. So you got a guy that can

0:40:07.239 --> 0:40:09.200
<v Speaker 1>start at corner and you're gonna move them to another

0:40:09.239 --> 0:40:12.680
<v Speaker 1>position and then the right side. You know, I love

0:40:12.840 --> 0:40:15.040
<v Speaker 1>Digs When he had his first press conference and he

0:40:15.040 --> 0:40:17.560
<v Speaker 1>comes out and says, when they ask him, what's your goal,

0:40:17.680 --> 0:40:19.800
<v Speaker 1>he goes, my goal is to come here and compete

0:40:19.880 --> 0:40:22.880
<v Speaker 1>and compete hard. He goes, I want a starting job.

0:40:23.080 --> 0:40:25.400
<v Speaker 1>I love that in my corner. There you go, I

0:40:25.520 --> 0:40:28.000
<v Speaker 1>want you to be rash, I don't want you to

0:40:28.040 --> 0:40:32.360
<v Speaker 1>be me right, And then Anthony Brown. Remember they resigned

0:40:32.440 --> 0:40:35.120
<v Speaker 1>him to a three year, fifteen million dollar deal, so

0:40:35.160 --> 0:40:38.239
<v Speaker 1>they like him. And then everybody loves Jordan Lewis. Well,

0:40:38.280 --> 0:40:41.160
<v Speaker 1>we'll see where he fits in. So I think there's

0:40:41.239 --> 0:40:44.400
<v Speaker 1>five or six corners right now that are battling not

0:40:44.440 --> 0:40:48.160
<v Speaker 1>only for starting jobs, but for playing time. You know,

0:40:48.400 --> 0:40:50.480
<v Speaker 1>I like the thing I like about the Cowboys as

0:40:50.560 --> 0:40:53.239
<v Speaker 1>much as I complain about the secondary. I always like

0:40:53.320 --> 0:40:57.440
<v Speaker 1>the size that we had. You you had Vilan Jones,

0:40:57.440 --> 0:41:00.720
<v Speaker 1>and now we still have a Woozier. You've got Diggs

0:41:00.760 --> 0:41:05.000
<v Speaker 1>coming in, who's a very good sized cornerback. But when

0:41:05.000 --> 0:41:09.239
<v Speaker 1>you start talking about making turnovers, it really, as far

0:41:09.280 --> 0:41:12.719
<v Speaker 1>as the athletic ability is concerned, that's always going to

0:41:12.800 --> 0:41:16.600
<v Speaker 1>be there. What you must have in the secondary is

0:41:16.680 --> 0:41:20.400
<v Speaker 1>someone back there that can help you understand what's coming

0:41:20.480 --> 0:41:25.319
<v Speaker 1>your way. The anticipation factor in the secondary has to

0:41:25.360 --> 0:41:29.120
<v Speaker 1>be high. You have to expect certain routes to show

0:41:29.520 --> 0:41:32.520
<v Speaker 1>at certain times of the game. Because you study, you

0:41:32.520 --> 0:41:35.480
<v Speaker 1>have to expect that when your defense is dialed up

0:41:35.760 --> 0:41:38.080
<v Speaker 1>and when that blitz is coming, that you can maybe

0:41:38.160 --> 0:41:41.520
<v Speaker 1>jump arount. You understand what your limitations are, you understand

0:41:41.520 --> 0:41:45.480
<v Speaker 1>what your strengths are. So when you talk about making turnovers,

0:41:45.600 --> 0:41:47.640
<v Speaker 1>you can be as physical as you want, but you

0:41:47.719 --> 0:41:49.640
<v Speaker 1>still have to know what the heck that wide receiver

0:41:49.719 --> 0:41:52.440
<v Speaker 1>is trying to do. So in order to make your plays,

0:41:52.840 --> 0:41:55.279
<v Speaker 1>you must study first of all, and you have to

0:41:55.320 --> 0:41:59.719
<v Speaker 1>anticipate making a play. I think with Diggs the way

0:41:59.360 --> 0:42:02.560
<v Speaker 1>I play him play at Alabama, he was able to

0:42:02.560 --> 0:42:05.359
<v Speaker 1>decipher certain plays that the offense was bringing towards him,

0:42:05.600 --> 0:42:07.840
<v Speaker 1>and he made the play. He saw what was coming,

0:42:07.920 --> 0:42:10.879
<v Speaker 1>he sniffed it out, and he used his brain as

0:42:10.920 --> 0:42:13.200
<v Speaker 1>much as he used his body. That's where we have

0:42:13.280 --> 0:42:16.319
<v Speaker 1>to look at how how Clinton Dix same thing. A

0:42:16.400 --> 0:42:19.600
<v Speaker 1>veteran that knows how to make plays. He could possibly

0:42:19.640 --> 0:42:22.560
<v Speaker 1>help our strong safety. He could possibly help our cornerbacks

0:42:22.640 --> 0:42:27.080
<v Speaker 1>understand the best way to play that particular wide receiver

0:42:27.400 --> 0:42:30.680
<v Speaker 1>because he's gonna be where he needs to be in

0:42:30.719 --> 0:42:33.640
<v Speaker 1>that secondary in order if they need help. So there

0:42:33.680 --> 0:42:36.879
<v Speaker 1>has to be a cohesiveness in regards to getting interceptions.

0:42:37.320 --> 0:42:41.400
<v Speaker 1>It has to become from an entire team standpoint, is

0:42:41.440 --> 0:42:45.960
<v Speaker 1>not from an individual standpoint, a team standpoint. But I

0:42:46.000 --> 0:42:50.160
<v Speaker 1>think the important thing to remember about Treyvon Diggs, He's

0:42:50.200 --> 0:42:54.440
<v Speaker 1>got all this potential. He doesn't have much experience. He

0:42:54.560 --> 0:42:57.880
<v Speaker 1>started for a full season last year at Alabama. He

0:42:58.040 --> 0:43:01.600
<v Speaker 1>was the starter the year before Alabama, but suffered a

0:43:01.640 --> 0:43:04.359
<v Speaker 1>broken foot and only was in six games the year

0:43:04.400 --> 0:43:09.560
<v Speaker 1>before and without an offseason. I think I think the

0:43:09.560 --> 0:43:13.600
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys this offseason by signing Whorley and getting another veteran

0:43:13.640 --> 0:43:16.560
<v Speaker 1>guy in there, it buys some time for Digs. But

0:43:16.640 --> 0:43:19.279
<v Speaker 1>if dig shows here, you tell me ever since over

0:43:19.280 --> 0:43:21.080
<v Speaker 1>the course of the next month, even though he doesn't

0:43:21.120 --> 0:43:23.400
<v Speaker 1>have games to play in, if he shows in practice

0:43:23.719 --> 0:43:26.520
<v Speaker 1>that he can handle it, He's got the talent it

0:43:26.520 --> 0:43:28.759
<v Speaker 1>looks like to be able to handle it. It's just

0:43:28.880 --> 0:43:31.879
<v Speaker 1>from a mental standpoint, right, well, he's got to show

0:43:31.960 --> 0:43:34.960
<v Speaker 1>him something special. I mean, once again, you've got the

0:43:35.000 --> 0:43:37.640
<v Speaker 1>athletes out there. All of them are great athletes. Brown

0:43:37.760 --> 0:43:39.359
<v Speaker 1>is one of the quickest guys I think I've ever

0:43:39.400 --> 0:43:42.600
<v Speaker 1>seen at the cornerback position in a long time. But

0:43:42.680 --> 0:43:45.320
<v Speaker 1>if he's able to show that he can make plays

0:43:45.719 --> 0:43:48.880
<v Speaker 1>in a special way, in a unique way that the

0:43:49.000 --> 0:43:52.399
<v Speaker 1>other guys can't do, yeah, throw him in there. Come on, man,

0:43:52.400 --> 0:43:54.359
<v Speaker 1>it took me. I'm still mad. It took me five

0:43:54.400 --> 0:43:57.640
<v Speaker 1>games to start back in nineteen eighty one. I was leading.

0:43:57.760 --> 0:44:00.200
<v Speaker 1>I was leading the league interceptions. Before I was they

0:44:00.360 --> 0:44:06.040
<v Speaker 1>was to start, I was still on the bench. Come on, man, ever,

0:44:06.120 --> 0:44:08.839
<v Speaker 1>so what was your attitude? What was your attitude? You're

0:44:09.200 --> 0:44:12.560
<v Speaker 1>an undrafted free agent out of Grambling, your rookie year,

0:44:13.120 --> 0:44:16.040
<v Speaker 1>You're playing with your hometown team, trying to make the team.

0:44:16.360 --> 0:44:18.680
<v Speaker 1>Did you have that same attitude that I'm gonna start

0:44:18.719 --> 0:44:22.759
<v Speaker 1>my rookie year? You damn right, Bill, Okay, let's be

0:44:22.840 --> 0:44:25.239
<v Speaker 1>real about it. I was upset. I led the nation

0:44:25.280 --> 0:44:27.840
<v Speaker 1>and interceptions. I go for a free agent. I was

0:44:27.880 --> 0:44:30.120
<v Speaker 1>out for blood. Okay. I want to make sure you

0:44:30.200 --> 0:44:33.200
<v Speaker 1>embarrass any wide receiver I came up against. Now, when

0:44:33.239 --> 0:44:35.560
<v Speaker 1>I go up against Drew and Tony Hill, I was

0:44:35.600 --> 0:44:38.560
<v Speaker 1>the one that got embarrassed. But they also knew I

0:44:38.640 --> 0:44:42.000
<v Speaker 1>was gonna be there. I was going. I knew that

0:44:42.200 --> 0:44:44.920
<v Speaker 1>I could do something that the others could not do.

0:44:45.840 --> 0:44:58.960
<v Speaker 1>They I saw I was second. All right, all right?

0:44:59.160 --> 0:45:02.760
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<v Speaker 1>day of Cowboys training camp officially, because the Cowboys were

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<v Speaker 1>on the practice field at Ford Center eight am. According

0:47:28.280 --> 0:47:31.360
<v Speaker 1>to the tweets that I saw from the Beat reporters

0:47:31.400 --> 0:47:35.759
<v Speaker 1>that were there, Mike McCarthy first emerged on the practice

0:47:35.840 --> 0:47:40.600
<v Speaker 1>field at precisely eight nineteen am. Is that what you

0:47:40.760 --> 0:47:43.759
<v Speaker 1>had on your clock, Mickey. I don't know that I

0:47:43.920 --> 0:47:47.400
<v Speaker 1>was clock and Mike McCarthy, but I do know that

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<v Speaker 1>when they when they started the stretching team stretch and everything,

0:47:53.760 --> 0:47:58.239
<v Speaker 1>the quarterbacks and the offense and I think most of

0:47:58.239 --> 0:48:01.280
<v Speaker 1>the defensive linemen were still in side, so I'm assuming

0:48:01.360 --> 0:48:04.520
<v Speaker 1>they were doing that in the Ford center and then

0:48:04.600 --> 0:48:07.799
<v Speaker 1>he came out with that part the offensive lineman and

0:48:07.920 --> 0:48:11.960
<v Speaker 1>the quarterbacks, who, by the way, Billy asked me for observations,

0:48:12.520 --> 0:48:18.160
<v Speaker 1>the quarterbacks all had on red jerseys. Jerseys. Oh, that

0:48:18.239 --> 0:48:21.320
<v Speaker 1>was another thing that was trending on Twitter. The Cowboys

0:48:21.440 --> 0:48:26.000
<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks have red jerseys on at practice. What a novel

0:48:26.120 --> 0:48:30.160
<v Speaker 1>concept that a football team has quarterbacks in red jerseys

0:48:30.239 --> 0:48:33.360
<v Speaker 1>during practice? Would somebody asked me? I said, does the

0:48:33.400 --> 0:48:38.120
<v Speaker 1>red jersey protect them from COVID nineteen two? Because that's

0:48:38.160 --> 0:48:40.920
<v Speaker 1>going to be most important. So I had to I

0:48:40.960 --> 0:48:43.920
<v Speaker 1>had to text Everson to find out because I can't

0:48:43.960 --> 0:48:46.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, we did other than training camp. We didn't

0:48:46.600 --> 0:48:50.120
<v Speaker 1>get to watch the Cowboys practice back in the eighties,

0:48:50.920 --> 0:48:53.880
<v Speaker 1>as I remember, and so I needed to ask Everson

0:48:53.960 --> 0:48:57.560
<v Speaker 1>if Tom put the quarterbacks in red jerseys, and Everson,

0:48:57.640 --> 0:49:03.320
<v Speaker 1>you said, I said yes, but but as I recall,

0:49:04.160 --> 0:49:06.720
<v Speaker 1>and I talked to Chris about this before you guys

0:49:07.000 --> 0:49:12.160
<v Speaker 1>even came on, I recall maybe red vests. I don't

0:49:12.160 --> 0:49:16.240
<v Speaker 1>know about red jerseys, but I think they had red vests. Yeah,

0:49:16.320 --> 0:49:19.480
<v Speaker 1>I think you're right. I think there you go. Yes, yes,

0:49:21.200 --> 0:49:23.200
<v Speaker 1>because they didn't have a number on it, just had

0:49:23.239 --> 0:49:25.840
<v Speaker 1>a vest, right, Yeah, they just put that. And I

0:49:25.840 --> 0:49:28.320
<v Speaker 1>don't remember the last time the Cowboys did that. I

0:49:28.600 --> 0:49:32.319
<v Speaker 1>can't remember. I don't recall Parcels doing it because he

0:49:32.400 --> 0:49:36.200
<v Speaker 1>always wanted everybody to be tough, So I don't know

0:49:36.239 --> 0:49:38.440
<v Speaker 1>that he did it. And I couldn't remember if Jimmy

0:49:38.480 --> 0:49:40.680
<v Speaker 1>put him on there or not. You know, maybe when

0:49:40.680 --> 0:49:44.640
<v Speaker 1>Troy came back in ninety three after his uh June

0:49:45.520 --> 0:49:50.680
<v Speaker 1>surgery back surgery, I believe it was, you know, maybe

0:49:50.680 --> 0:49:54.040
<v Speaker 1>they protected him and they basically and here here's how

0:49:54.120 --> 0:49:57.759
<v Speaker 1>well Troy Aikman listened. So it's a preseason game and

0:49:57.840 --> 0:50:01.480
<v Speaker 1>they basically said, you know, don't on data, DA, And

0:50:01.640 --> 0:50:04.480
<v Speaker 1>it's a preseason game. And he takes out of the

0:50:04.680 --> 0:50:08.080
<v Speaker 1>pocket around the ten yard line because he's gonna score

0:50:08.080 --> 0:50:10.520
<v Speaker 1>a touchdown, by God in a preseason game, and he

0:50:10.680 --> 0:50:13.880
<v Speaker 1>dives for the end zone. It was his last play

0:50:13.920 --> 0:50:18.319
<v Speaker 1>of that preseason where you got here after that? Didn't

0:50:18.360 --> 0:50:23.680
<v Speaker 1>he later in the season. Yeah? Absolutely, I think Start

0:50:23.760 --> 0:50:28.280
<v Speaker 1>did the same thing. A Mickey wants some other observations

0:50:28.280 --> 0:50:30.440
<v Speaker 1>you had out there? Well, here here what happened at

0:50:30.520 --> 0:50:33.760
<v Speaker 1>practice today? Tell us here, here's what's Here's what's weird

0:50:33.800 --> 0:50:37.200
<v Speaker 1>about watching practice from where we did at my desk

0:50:37.239 --> 0:50:42.680
<v Speaker 1>inside the Start. There's no noise. It's quiet. Well that'll

0:50:42.719 --> 0:50:45.319
<v Speaker 1>be just like the games this year then, right, it

0:50:45.400 --> 0:50:49.359
<v Speaker 1>was just quiet the Red Jerseys. I also noticed, you know,

0:50:49.440 --> 0:50:54.080
<v Speaker 1>normally they had one judge machine to throw passes to

0:50:54.200 --> 0:50:57.200
<v Speaker 1>the receivers or the dbs. They had eight of them

0:50:57.239 --> 0:50:59.400
<v Speaker 1>out there. Now I didn't know if that was a

0:50:59.520 --> 0:51:03.879
<v Speaker 1>protection thing, so everybody wasn't touching the same footballs or what,

0:51:04.160 --> 0:51:08.480
<v Speaker 1>But there were eight jug machines out there. And I

0:51:08.560 --> 0:51:12.960
<v Speaker 1>mentioned Alden Smith. He's got some length, you guys, because

0:51:13.000 --> 0:51:15.799
<v Speaker 1>he batted a pass at the line of scrimmage and

0:51:15.960 --> 0:51:18.319
<v Speaker 1>he didn't really have to jump. He just got his

0:51:18.719 --> 0:51:22.479
<v Speaker 1>hands up and knocked a pass down. So I did.

0:51:23.160 --> 0:51:26.760
<v Speaker 1>I did notice that for sure. You know, I mentioned

0:51:26.800 --> 0:51:29.600
<v Speaker 1>the cooling tents already, the fact that they took a

0:51:29.640 --> 0:51:32.920
<v Speaker 1>break and they're kind of monitoring it, and there wasn't

0:51:33.000 --> 0:51:35.960
<v Speaker 1>loud music. I don't think was playing at least I

0:51:36.000 --> 0:51:42.200
<v Speaker 1>couldn't hear it so so that that was noticeable. And

0:51:42.320 --> 0:51:44.600
<v Speaker 1>I heard the music at the break, but that was

0:51:44.719 --> 0:51:49.359
<v Speaker 1>really it. So I give you how guys lined up

0:51:49.400 --> 0:51:54.759
<v Speaker 1>the linebackers obviously Layton, vander Esh Jalen Smith. And when

0:51:54.800 --> 0:51:57.120
<v Speaker 1>they're playing Nickel like that, it's kind of hard to

0:51:57.160 --> 0:52:00.440
<v Speaker 1>tell who's in the middle and who's not. But Layton

0:52:00.520 --> 0:52:02.480
<v Speaker 1>said he would be in the middle. Jalen was going

0:52:02.520 --> 0:52:04.520
<v Speaker 1>to be on the on the weak side. And one

0:52:04.560 --> 0:52:07.480
<v Speaker 1>of the things I noticed quite a bit with Alden Smith,

0:52:07.680 --> 0:52:10.919
<v Speaker 1>so he's playing that right defensive end spot. A lot

0:52:10.920 --> 0:52:14.240
<v Speaker 1>of times they just had him standing up. They didn't

0:52:14.239 --> 0:52:16.520
<v Speaker 1>have his hand on the ground, So I don't know

0:52:16.560 --> 0:52:18.680
<v Speaker 1>if that gives him a head start or what, but

0:52:18.760 --> 0:52:25.319
<v Speaker 1>I thought that of a hybrid defense. If it was,

0:52:25.920 --> 0:52:29.759
<v Speaker 1>then they were off centered because they had two defensive tackles.

0:52:30.280 --> 0:52:33.920
<v Speaker 1>Uh and then DeMarcus Lawrence had his hand on the

0:52:33.960 --> 0:52:37.440
<v Speaker 1>ground on the other side. I don't recall if Alden

0:52:37.560 --> 0:52:42.680
<v Speaker 1>Smith was was you know, either did he favor either way?

0:52:43.120 --> 0:52:47.120
<v Speaker 1>Standing up? I would call him always with his hands down. Yeah.

0:52:47.200 --> 0:52:51.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you guys remember, but the the

0:52:51.040 --> 0:52:54.279
<v Speaker 1>thing is when even even with three four teams, when

0:52:54.280 --> 0:52:56.600
<v Speaker 1>they're in the nickel, they're in a four man front

0:52:56.880 --> 0:53:00.320
<v Speaker 1>and Russian uh just like what you would see a

0:53:00.400 --> 0:53:04.600
<v Speaker 1>fourth in a fourth three defense. So um so most

0:53:04.640 --> 0:53:08.160
<v Speaker 1>of what we saw, Bill, they were in nickel defense. Yeah,

0:53:08.800 --> 0:53:11.560
<v Speaker 1>all right, So what do you make of Layton and

0:53:11.719 --> 0:53:16.520
<v Speaker 1>the base defense moving to middle linebacker? I thought it

0:53:16.560 --> 0:53:19.600
<v Speaker 1>was going to be a natural progression for him. His

0:53:19.719 --> 0:53:26.640
<v Speaker 1>command of the scheme, his recognition, uh, and his ability

0:53:26.760 --> 0:53:30.239
<v Speaker 1>if you want your middle linebacker dropping into coverage. I

0:53:30.280 --> 0:53:32.680
<v Speaker 1>think was better than Jalen Smith. You know, I know

0:53:32.800 --> 0:53:34.840
<v Speaker 1>Jalen ended up going to the Pro Bowl, but I

0:53:34.840 --> 0:53:39.120
<v Speaker 1>don't think that was his best year. Uh So uh,

0:53:39.200 --> 0:53:41.239
<v Speaker 1>you know what. I what I liked the fact that

0:53:41.640 --> 0:53:45.720
<v Speaker 1>day one, Layton Vanderish was on the field. And remember

0:53:45.800 --> 0:53:50.040
<v Speaker 1>we found that out when we interviewed as agent Ron Slaven. Gosh,

0:53:50.080 --> 0:53:52.560
<v Speaker 1>that was a couple of months ago, wasn't it, Bill? Uh?

0:53:52.840 --> 0:53:56.279
<v Speaker 1>He told and he told us that, uh that that

0:53:56.520 --> 0:53:59.560
<v Speaker 1>Layton Vandersch was ready to go, and and yeah, there

0:53:59.640 --> 0:54:03.279
<v Speaker 1>was no limitations for him out there, uh either, you know,

0:54:03.360 --> 0:54:06.080
<v Speaker 1>the other guy that that that kind of showed up,

0:54:06.400 --> 0:54:10.680
<v Speaker 1>and two other guys. Tristan Hill looked like he kind

0:54:10.680 --> 0:54:13.759
<v Speaker 1>of reshaped his body a little bit in the offseason

0:54:14.200 --> 0:54:17.279
<v Speaker 1>and he seemed a little bit more active. And the

0:54:17.320 --> 0:54:20.680
<v Speaker 1>one corner that we haven't talked about. I was talking

0:54:20.719 --> 0:54:24.480
<v Speaker 1>with Will McClay the other day. He said, don't go

0:54:24.520 --> 0:54:28.120
<v Speaker 1>to sleep on Chris Westrey. Remember he was a rookie

0:54:28.160 --> 0:54:32.040
<v Speaker 1>free agent last year, like six three sixty four, and

0:54:32.080 --> 0:54:34.680
<v Speaker 1>they loved they still love his size even though he

0:54:34.800 --> 0:54:37.640
<v Speaker 1>was on the practice squad. And then I think he

0:54:37.800 --> 0:54:40.760
<v Speaker 1>did he ended up on ir I'm trying to remember,

0:54:41.080 --> 0:54:49.160
<v Speaker 1>but they still like position quarterback at that size. Yes, yes,

0:54:49.280 --> 0:54:55.440
<v Speaker 1>oh interesting. So those were the things that probably, uh

0:54:55.719 --> 0:54:58.759
<v Speaker 1>most stood out to me. But yeah, the quietness of

0:54:58.840 --> 0:55:03.160
<v Speaker 1>watching practice was is a little different. You know. The

0:55:03.200 --> 0:55:05.200
<v Speaker 1>other thing that people would be talking about on the

0:55:05.239 --> 0:55:08.320
<v Speaker 1>offensive line, Connor Williams was out there with the first

0:55:08.320 --> 0:55:12.600
<v Speaker 1>team at left guard right. Yeah, absolutely, And Mike McCarthy

0:55:12.640 --> 0:55:16.480
<v Speaker 1>did say in the kickoff press conference that you know,

0:55:16.560 --> 0:55:19.040
<v Speaker 1>it's Connor Williams, but we kind of got him ease

0:55:19.120 --> 0:55:21.520
<v Speaker 1>him in there. We can't, you know, he's still not

0:55:22.120 --> 0:55:27.799
<v Speaker 1>Gosh's he nine months removed from probably into nine or

0:55:27.840 --> 0:55:33.080
<v Speaker 1>ten months, yeah, from the ACL surgery. So uh so

0:55:33.160 --> 0:55:35.520
<v Speaker 1>that he took you know, he was out there first

0:55:35.560 --> 0:55:39.840
<v Speaker 1>and then they rotated, Uh, Connor McGovern in there. I

0:55:39.960 --> 0:55:42.800
<v Speaker 1>didn't see be a dish taking any first team snaps

0:55:42.840 --> 0:55:45.400
<v Speaker 1>at center, But I'm going to keep an eye on

0:55:45.480 --> 0:55:48.400
<v Speaker 1>that one because, as I keep saying, he's the only

0:55:48.440 --> 0:55:52.960
<v Speaker 1>guy on this team that took considerable snaps at center

0:55:53.440 --> 0:55:56.319
<v Speaker 1>last year on a football field, and that was at

0:55:56.480 --> 0:55:59.960
<v Speaker 1>University of Wisconsin. I get it, but Joe Looney played

0:56:00.160 --> 0:56:03.279
<v Speaker 1>guard last year. He really didn't get into the game

0:56:03.400 --> 0:56:06.720
<v Speaker 1>much other than cleanup time at center. So he hadn't

0:56:06.719 --> 0:56:10.480
<v Speaker 1>played center since twenty eighteen. Everybody keeps talking about Connor

0:56:10.560 --> 0:56:13.760
<v Speaker 1>McGovern had played center in college. Well, he hadn't played

0:56:13.800 --> 0:56:18.840
<v Speaker 1>center at Penn State since twenty seventeen. Sou and Adam Redman,

0:56:18.960 --> 0:56:21.080
<v Speaker 1>who they thought was going to be the backup center

0:56:21.239 --> 0:56:26.200
<v Speaker 1>last year or at least compete for it, ended up

0:56:26.239 --> 0:56:29.080
<v Speaker 1>on injury reserve. He never played in a game, So

0:56:29.400 --> 0:56:32.800
<v Speaker 1>to be interesting to see how quickly the rookie adapts

0:56:32.800 --> 0:56:35.600
<v Speaker 1>at the center position. You know, when you one thing

0:56:35.640 --> 0:56:39.279
<v Speaker 1>about this though, when you look at the injuries. Some

0:56:39.600 --> 0:56:43.719
<v Speaker 1>that are completely healed, like tyl On Crawford coming off

0:56:43.719 --> 0:56:47.000
<v Speaker 1>the pup list, which is man, God blessing. I feel

0:56:47.000 --> 0:56:50.320
<v Speaker 1>so good for him. You look at Layton Vanderish who

0:56:50.560 --> 0:56:55.440
<v Speaker 1>has completely healed with his NECKT surgery. I think the

0:56:55.640 --> 0:56:59.760
<v Speaker 1>quick well really no preseason, but the quick training camp

0:57:00.080 --> 0:57:03.120
<v Speaker 1>and early started the season. I think that would bold

0:57:03.560 --> 0:57:07.160
<v Speaker 1>better for those two. They won't have to get bogged

0:57:07.160 --> 0:57:10.080
<v Speaker 1>down with a lot of practice. They don't have to

0:57:10.080 --> 0:57:13.839
<v Speaker 1>worry about getting, you know, having to recover too much

0:57:15.080 --> 0:57:17.560
<v Speaker 1>from those injuries because they're going to be into the

0:57:17.600 --> 0:57:20.760
<v Speaker 1>season so quickly. But when when you look at someone

0:57:20.800 --> 0:57:26.400
<v Speaker 1>like like Connor, he's not completely healed yet, so it

0:57:26.440 --> 0:57:28.840
<v Speaker 1>would be the opposite for him. It's gonna take him

0:57:28.880 --> 0:57:31.520
<v Speaker 1>a while, I think, before he's able to get back

0:57:31.520 --> 0:57:35.160
<v Speaker 1>into full strength. So it works both ways depending on

0:57:35.240 --> 0:57:39.560
<v Speaker 1>where you are in your rehab. But vander Esh and Crawford,

0:57:39.840 --> 0:57:41.920
<v Speaker 1>I think it worked better for them than it did

0:57:41.920 --> 0:57:47.960
<v Speaker 1>for Connor. Another veteran guy the Cowboys signed this offseason,

0:57:48.120 --> 0:57:51.440
<v Speaker 1>Andy Dalton. How strange was at seeing Andy Dalton in

0:57:51.440 --> 0:57:55.160
<v Speaker 1>a Cowboys uniform. It was it was very nice to

0:57:55.200 --> 0:57:57.720
<v Speaker 1>see him, and the thing that stood out to me

0:57:57.880 --> 0:58:02.080
<v Speaker 1>about him is how accurate he is. He passes are

0:58:02.240 --> 0:58:06.560
<v Speaker 1>right on the button. He does not miss guys, and

0:58:06.200 --> 0:58:10.000
<v Speaker 1>and and he's splitting numbers, so he throws a very

0:58:10.120 --> 0:58:15.840
<v Speaker 1>catchable ball. He's still moving well. Uh and and again,

0:58:16.120 --> 0:58:19.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, we talked about the best free agent signings

0:58:19.960 --> 0:58:24.320
<v Speaker 1>on defense. What what he brings to this offense? A

0:58:24.440 --> 0:58:27.880
<v Speaker 1>veteran presence h and a guy that probably makes you

0:58:28.000 --> 0:58:31.160
<v Speaker 1>sleep a lot better at night if you're the head coach,

0:58:31.320 --> 0:58:33.919
<v Speaker 1>knowing and I've got a guy that's played in this

0:58:34.000 --> 0:58:38.520
<v Speaker 1>league as my backup quarterback just in case. I think

0:58:38.560 --> 0:58:42.040
<v Speaker 1>that was a huge uh get for the Cowboys, you know.

0:58:42.120 --> 0:58:44.080
<v Speaker 1>And that's another one of those things, you guys that

0:58:44.200 --> 0:58:47.280
<v Speaker 1>just kind of falls in their lap, right, you know,

0:58:47.360 --> 0:58:50.520
<v Speaker 1>Everson Griffin who thought the Cowboys could sign him right,

0:58:50.800 --> 0:58:53.360
<v Speaker 1>kind of falls in his lap after making the Pro

0:58:53.440 --> 0:58:56.640
<v Speaker 1>Bowl the previous season. That's even better. And who thought

0:58:56.640 --> 0:58:59.480
<v Speaker 1>that CD Lamb was gonna fall in their lap at

0:58:59.520 --> 0:59:02.960
<v Speaker 1>seventeen or digs in the second round. And then Dalton

0:59:03.240 --> 0:59:07.640
<v Speaker 1>because of his ties here living here and Cincinnati was

0:59:07.680 --> 0:59:10.840
<v Speaker 1>ready to move on, he falls in their lap and

0:59:10.880 --> 0:59:13.640
<v Speaker 1>he signs a one year prove it deal. How much

0:59:13.680 --> 0:59:17.640
<v Speaker 1>more good fortune can you have. Yeah, when you're talking

0:59:17.680 --> 0:59:20.400
<v Speaker 1>about when you're talking about veterans, they can take that

0:59:20.520 --> 0:59:23.400
<v Speaker 1>one year and you expect them to do something with it.

0:59:23.400 --> 0:59:25.360
<v Speaker 1>It's not like they need to well, let me get

0:59:25.400 --> 0:59:27.920
<v Speaker 1>the system down or whatever. You're talking about guys that

0:59:27.960 --> 0:59:31.600
<v Speaker 1>are used to making plays, big plays in playoff games

0:59:31.600 --> 0:59:34.320
<v Speaker 1>and championship games, so now you expect them to do

0:59:34.360 --> 0:59:36.880
<v Speaker 1>the same thing for you. You know, with the signing

0:59:36.920 --> 0:59:40.040
<v Speaker 1>of a three time Pro Bowl backup quarterback in Andy

0:59:40.160 --> 0:59:43.800
<v Speaker 1>Dalton with Everson Griffin, you can understand, and other signings

0:59:43.800 --> 0:59:46.640
<v Speaker 1>from Gerald McCoy to done Terry Poe, all these veteran guys,

0:59:47.000 --> 0:59:49.880
<v Speaker 1>you can understand where Stephen Jones is coming from when

0:59:49.920 --> 0:59:53.400
<v Speaker 1>he said on Wednesday that he feels like this roster

0:59:53.920 --> 0:59:57.080
<v Speaker 1>and in this situation they have right now is as

0:59:57.120 --> 0:59:59.960
<v Speaker 1>good to contend as they've had in five or two

1:00:00.040 --> 1:00:03.480
<v Speaker 1>in years here. Yeah. Absolutely, And I don't know if

1:00:03.520 --> 1:00:06.520
<v Speaker 1>that caught everybody by surprise, but he's right. If you

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<v Speaker 1>just look at the veteran presence they brought in along

1:00:10.040 --> 1:00:12.640
<v Speaker 1>with the youth that they have and the guys they've

1:00:12.680 --> 1:00:16.480
<v Speaker 1>been developing for the last three or four years. Uh. Yeah,

1:00:16.520 --> 1:00:19.040
<v Speaker 1>it's a it's a heck of a mix. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I would have to go back and look player by

1:00:21.680 --> 1:00:25.600
<v Speaker 1>player by player, But Dalton might be the best backup

1:00:25.680 --> 1:00:30.040
<v Speaker 1>quarterback they've had. How far back you want to go?

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<v Speaker 1>Since they had Dak Prescott as the backup coming in,

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't count, Okay, since Tony Romo, Since Tony Romo

1:00:39.400 --> 1:00:41.680
<v Speaker 1>was the backup today we have did we have Burline?

1:00:41.720 --> 1:00:44.320
<v Speaker 1>At one point was going to go back to Burline.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where I was going. That's why Burl Romo when

1:00:47.600 --> 1:00:50.160
<v Speaker 1>he was the backup, wasn't even proven right In the

1:00:50.240 --> 1:00:53.280
<v Speaker 1>first year he was the backup, he never played, ye

1:00:53.680 --> 1:00:55.840
<v Speaker 1>and he didn't really play until he took over the

1:00:55.880 --> 1:01:00.600
<v Speaker 1>starting job in uh two thousand and six or yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and six. I was gonna say, I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>go back to Burline or Rodney Pete or our guess,

1:01:06.480 --> 1:01:11.000
<v Speaker 1>Wade Wilson, probably with experience that he had in the

1:01:11.120 --> 1:01:14.120
<v Speaker 1>success he had a couple of years he was here

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<v Speaker 1>as the backup quarterback. Don't forget you had Vinnie in

1:01:20.160 --> 1:01:23.760
<v Speaker 1>there too, and you had bled so and I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>only I believe only Burline was the one that helped

1:01:27.440 --> 1:01:30.920
<v Speaker 1>him keep that Super Bowl pace up as they went

1:01:30.960 --> 1:01:33.160
<v Speaker 1>into the playoffs. I think they won the Super Bowl

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<v Speaker 1>that year, correct, Well, yeah, he came, he came in

1:01:36.120 --> 1:01:40.040
<v Speaker 1>and when that was the year, the year before ninety one,

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<v Speaker 1>they won five in a row and then they lost

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<v Speaker 1>to the Lions in the playoffs in the second round.

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<v Speaker 1>They beat you and the wow it got round we

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<v Speaker 1>could and was terrible. All right, we'll talk at you

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<v Speaker 1>again next week. In the meantime, Thursday, Bill, I believe

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to be back in our Thursday eleven am.

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