1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: Your work week is over. 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 2: The plant called and said, if you don't come in tomorrow, 3 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 2: don't bother coming in Monday. 4 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: Hello, by day weekend. This is the last word the 5 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: off Season Home of the Colts with Jeffrey Gorman and 6 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: Matt Taylor. 7 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 3: We are coming to you a little bit of a 8 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 3: dusty road. 9 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 2: Matt Taylor, wait to hit the posts telling you you're 10 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 2: dragged in from a dusty road. 11 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 3: Sometimes Matt Tailor out Voice of the Colts. My name 12 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 3: is Jeffrey Gorman. 13 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 2: This is the last word. We're brought to you by 14 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 2: our friends at FanDuel. Make every moment more coming up 15 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 2: over the course of the next I don't know what 16 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 2: have we got half hour here, Mayte, Yes, sir, yes, sir. 17 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 3: Listen up. We're gonna talk about the second week of 18 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 3: the OTAs where we're at. 19 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,639 Speaker 2: Don't forget Shane Stich in very important time right now 20 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 2: for the head coach, the new head coach. We're gonna 21 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 2: talk about this offseason workout program and the off season 22 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 2: positional preview series that we do week in and week out. 23 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 2: This week, may Te, it's a head scratcher. 24 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: At some point. 25 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 2: We got a lot of tight ends in camp right, 26 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 2: seven of them, a lot of tight ends. I wanna 27 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 2: talk about the Shane Styke in offense and using the 28 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 2: tight end. So we're gonna hear from Jelanie Woods, the 29 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 2: second year tight end, the big fella. He's gonna come 30 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 2: up one on one we go with him. But Mayte, 31 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 2: we're gonna talk this OTA and find out where we're 32 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 2: at right now. It is winding down. It's gonna end 33 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 2: with a mini camp, a mandatory mini camp. Veterans and 34 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 2: rookies alike will be there mid June. But right now 35 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,119 Speaker 2: they're getting work done. They'reknocking the rust and the dust off. 36 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 2: This week, the team completed their second week of these OTA's. 37 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,479 Speaker 2: The spring workouts are gonna conclude, like I said, mid June, 38 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 2: mandatory mini camp. 39 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 3: Mayte, you've been out there. I've been out there. 40 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 2: I gotta talk to you about the area's improvement that 41 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 2: you see in week two from week one with the OTAs. 42 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 2: Let's not forget it's a new program here. 43 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 3: This is a new thing. I mean, new timing, new everything. 44 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 2: Shane Stiken comes in and says, hey, I'm putting my 45 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 2: stamp on this offseason program right now. What have you 46 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 2: seen different from last week to this. 47 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 4: Week, I think you're seeing the offense take another step 48 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 4: in the foundational process. It was another week of everybody 49 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 4: on that side of the ball getting more familiar with 50 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 4: the playbook and executing it on the field. You saw 51 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 4: Richardson and Minshew continue to split up the reps with 52 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 4: the first team offense. I think certainly the defense is 53 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 4: further along to the offense, and that's to be expected 54 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,119 Speaker 4: with most of those guys back for year two under 55 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 4: Gus Bradley, whereas the offense is just a few weeks 56 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 4: into the playbook and the scheme under Shane Styke and 57 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 4: Jim Bob Cooter. But today you saw some two minute work, 58 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 4: you saw some red zone work in the eleven on 59 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 4: eleven periods. Ashton Deulin's making a lot of plays, Kylon 60 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 4: Grantson continues to make a lot of catches from his 61 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 4: tight end spot. But overall, I would say the defense 62 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 4: is ahead of the offense, no surprise there. And then 63 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 4: Richardson Jeffrey just continuing to get more valuable time splitting 64 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 4: those first team reps with Gardner Minshew. 65 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 2: All right mate to Anthony Richardson, all eyes around the 66 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 2: rookie obviously all eyes around the rookie, but Gardner minshew, 67 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 2: they continue to split the first team reps a quarterback, 68 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 2: They're going to continue to do that. According to the 69 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 2: head coach Shane Stiken, both of these qbs are lining 70 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 2: up against the Colt starting defense in both these drills, 71 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 2: the seven on seven and the eleven on eleven work 72 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 2: How do you think this continues? 73 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 3: Made to how do you think the first team. 74 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 2: Quarterback reps will be divided from here on out in 75 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 2: this part of the offseason program. And what is the 76 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 2: timing on it When they say, hey, we're zeroing in 77 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 2: on one. Everybody wants to see the rookie. I get that, 78 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 2: but when are they starting zeroing in on who's getting 79 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 2: more reps the rookie Anthony Richardson or the veteran Gardner minshew. 80 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 1: So great question. 81 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 4: I think as of right now, you're not worried about 82 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 4: playing time or getting one guy more reps than the 83 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 4: other because it's OTA's And when it comes to Richardson, 84 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 4: like we've said, he just needs to play and he 85 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 4: needs to get reps. I think you're going to see 86 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 4: it play out this way the rest of the offseason 87 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 4: workout program. Including the mini camp, but then in training camp, 88 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 4: my assumption would be that one of those guys starts 89 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 4: to get a lion's share of the reps, maybe two 90 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 4: weeks into camp, maybe one preseason game under their belts. 91 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 4: I think at that point one or the other will 92 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 4: start to emerge as the guy that best puts the 93 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 4: Colts into a position to win and play well right 94 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 4: away at the beginning of the season. So you know, 95 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 4: as we said, the Colts want that guy to be 96 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 4: Anthony Richardson because of who he is, where he was drafted, 97 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 4: and what he means the future of the success of 98 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 4: this franchise. But he still has to earn it. He 99 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 4: still has to prove that he's worthy of being given 100 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 4: that chance, that opportunity to play early on next season, 101 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 4: despite Minshew's experience and his knowledge of this offense. So 102 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 4: if they have to go that route too, I think 103 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 4: they're in a good spot no matter how this plays 104 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 4: out early on in the season. 105 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 3: Reps, reps, reps. 106 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 2: If people keep talking about and I'm with you, I'm 107 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 2: okay as long as he's both of these guys are 108 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 2: getting reps. I know, Gardner Minshe's played in the league, 109 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 2: and you know had success in this league and Anthony 110 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 2: Richardson hasn't, right, But I'm just saying, reps, reps, reps. 111 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 2: We're gonna probably find out in the second week of 112 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 2: training camp come August up in Westfield which direction this 113 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 2: is headed, because a free preseason game will be right 114 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 2: around the corner. 115 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 3: So we'll keep you updated. 116 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 4: And I don't think you need to do it up 117 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 4: until that point. 118 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 2: That's right, right, I mean, you know I want reps. 119 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 2: I want reps. I mean I want reps for both 120 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 2: these cats, both of them. 121 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 5: Right. 122 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 4: And when you see Anthony Richardson make mistakes, as we said, 123 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 4: when you see mistakes made in OTAs, and there's gonna 124 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 4: be mistakes those first couple weeks of training camp, when 125 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 4: there's fans on site and people are taking videos and 126 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 4: you got the reporters tracking his accuracy, I really don't care. 127 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 4: I really don't care, because you're gonna see those things. 128 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 4: And I care once we get to the middle to 129 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 4: the later part of August in terms of what we're 130 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 4: seeing out of Anthony Richardson and where he's at pecking 131 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 4: order wise on the dep chart at. 132 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 3: That quarterback position. 133 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 2: You learn by mistakes a lot throughout and that'll continue 134 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 2: with this cat through the next ten or fifteen years 135 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 2: as long as he's in the NFL. Mayte we talked 136 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 2: about it earlier, a big head scratcher the tight end 137 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 2: room because there's so much talent out there and these 138 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 2: cats are big. Plus we got some veterans that are 139 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 2: in there and stuff like o Alie Cox and Kylon grantson. 140 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 2: But let's go over the tight end position group and 141 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 2: what we're looking at. Okay, on past shows, we've talked 142 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 2: about the running backs of wide receivers. Now it's the 143 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 2: big fella, the extra offensive lineman, if you will. They 144 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 2: have seven tight ends on the roster. Is this the 145 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 2: most competitive position group battle that's going on in the 146 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 2: roster right now? 147 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 4: I think so, I really do. I think it is, 148 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 4: considering who's on the roster and where they came from. 149 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 4: And what I mean by that is the Colts, as 150 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 4: you said, they've got seven guys. Every one of them 151 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 4: is either a Colts draft pick or a veteran of 152 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 4: several seasons in the NFL on other teams. So when 153 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 4: you get into training camp that battle for roster spots, 154 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 4: it's gonna be really fierce. I think this tight end 155 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 4: room for the Colts is the deepest part of their 156 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 4: team and when it comes to potential talent and production 157 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 4: already in the league, you have all of that in 158 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 4: that room. 159 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 2: Mate, we're gonna be talking to Jelanie Woods. We're gonna 160 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 2: find out from him. But before we do, what kind 161 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 2: of jumper are you expecting about this cat in his 162 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 2: second year in the NFL? And listen, I got a 163 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 2: piggyback on that. Yeah, because we were all high and 164 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 2: Drew Ogletree last year acl injury. So those two guys 165 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 2: who had a lot of stuff going on as far 166 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 2: as hey, we're looking forward to this, this double twin 167 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 2: tight ends that are humongous and everything, and Dregle Tree 168 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 2: went down first. Jilani Woods, what do you expect out 169 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 2: of him? And are we gonna get a rebound year 170 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,559 Speaker 2: and a Drew ogle Tree after an injury plague season? 171 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: Yeah? 172 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 4: I think for Woods, I think it's twofold getting him 173 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 4: more involved in the running game as a blocker. I 174 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 4: think he's willing to do that. But when you do 175 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 4: go two tight ends, you don't want to tip your 176 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 4: hand formationally runner pass, So he's got to be good 177 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 4: in the running game, and then I just want to 178 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 4: see the Colts get more explosive plays with him in 179 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 4: the passing game. We saw that at times last year. 180 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 4: But look at him, Jeffers six foot seven, two point 181 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 4: fifty five. He's got speed, agility, former quarterback. How are 182 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 4: you gonna cover him? Are you gonna put a safety 183 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 4: on him? You're gonna put a linebacker on him again 184 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 4: at sixt' seven almost two sixty. I like Woods's chances 185 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 4: of coming down with a football. As far as Ogletree 186 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 4: is concerned, the hope is he comes back and he's 187 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 4: the same guy he was in training camp last year. 188 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 4: Now he tore his ACL and he's not participating in 189 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 4: the OTAs to me, that's not a red flag. You know, 190 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 4: bells and whistles aren't going off there just yet. The 191 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 4: hope is he comes back because he looked like a lock. 192 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 4: I mean, that's how good he looked in August last year. 193 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 4: He looked like a lock for this team. And quite frankly, 194 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 4: he looked like he was ahead of Jolanni Woods this 195 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 4: time last year. So he's got a lot of spark 196 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 4: to him, and he's exciting, and I think if he 197 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 4: does come back, and he is the same player and 198 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 4: is making plays, and he's up on the offense playbook 199 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 4: wise like he was last year under Frank Reich. He's 200 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 4: going to complicate in a really good way that tight 201 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 4: end room. And again, the Colts are gonna have to 202 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 4: make some really hard, tough decisions on letting some really 203 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 4: good football players go. 204 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 2: Mo Ally Cox, Kylon grantson the veterans. We talked about 205 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 2: Drew Ogletree, Jolani Woods. We're gonna hear from him in 206 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 2: a minute. How about Will Mallory the fifth rounder out 207 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 2: of Miami. What's his role looking like on this thing, Matt? 208 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 2: And also I want to know how important, I guess 209 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 2: is the question in this Shane Steiken offense that we've 210 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,959 Speaker 2: learned from years pass how important is the tight end role? 211 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 2: And also will Mallory the fifth round? 212 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 4: Well, it's really crowded. I mean the storyline there is 213 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:08,599 Speaker 4: can he make this team as a rookie, you know? 214 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 4: Or is he destined for a practice squad position right away? 215 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 4: I mean, his skill set is incredibly athletic. He's a 216 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 4: great passing tight end in college. I mean at Miami. 217 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 4: His career reception and yardage total were the second most 218 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 4: by a tight end in their program history. Got the speed, 219 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 4: He's got the lineage right. His dad coach in the 220 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 4: NFL is his grandfather is former IU football coach Bill Mallens. 221 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 4: There's that Hoosier connection there. But tight ends are really 222 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 4: big in this offense. You know, to the second part 223 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 4: of your question, Philly used a lot of tight ends 224 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 4: and their offense under Shane Steichen. I mean some of 225 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 4: the big names in Steichen's pass. You know, Dallas Goddard, 226 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 4: he had one hundred and eleven catches for over fifteen 227 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 4: hundred yards and seven touchdowns with the Eagles the last 228 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 4: two seasons. Shane Stikeen's fingerprints are all over that. And 229 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 4: then Hunter Henry with the Chargers. He had one hundred 230 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,599 Speaker 4: and fifteen catches over twelve hundred yards and nine touchdowns 231 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 4: with the Chargers understiking. So tight ends are going to 232 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 4: be a big time fixture in this all. 233 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:07,719 Speaker 2: It's a guess only right now at this time of year. 234 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 2: Maye how many tight ends are going to make this roster. 235 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 4: I think four tops, but probably more like three. And 236 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 4: it's a good question, and that's what makes it so 237 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 4: difficult when you have seven guys that can all play 238 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 4: or that have played in the NFL. Last year, roster 239 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 4: mechanics wise, Colts kept six wide receivers, three tight ends, 240 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 4: three running backs, and three quarterbacks. Now, obviously that could 241 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 4: change under change stikeing, but that's typically how it goes 242 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 4: with most NFL teams. Maybe you keep two quarterbacks and 243 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 4: that adds another skill player somewhere else. 244 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: I mean, who do you have? Who do you get 245 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: rid of? 246 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 4: The Colts are bringing back all three of their tight 247 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 4: ends last year that played over three hundred and thirty 248 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:47,719 Speaker 4: snaps by Walley Cox, Jollannie Woods, Kylon Granson. Then you've 249 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 4: got Ogle Tree coming back. Mallory's a draft pick. They're 250 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 4: high on him. Don't forget about this guy. Farrell Brown, 251 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 4: Big fella Farrell Brown. They signed him in free agency. Veteran, 252 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 4: He's played fifty five games with three teams over the 253 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 4: past six season. 254 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 3: Does he have a little Jack Doyle in them? 255 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 5: Mate? 256 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 3: Does he have a little Jack Doyle? 257 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: I think so? Yeah. 258 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 4: A guy that's you know, he has grind in there, 259 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 4: put his nose in there, the propensity to block well 260 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 4: on the outside in the running game. So he's got 261 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 4: that skill set in him. But again, inevitably, one or 262 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 4: two of these guys that doesn't make the practice squad, 263 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 4: that doesn't make the regular season roster, one of these 264 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 4: two guys is gonna get cut and released. And these 265 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:26,959 Speaker 4: are guys that probably would make a lot of other 266 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 4: teams in the NFL. 267 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 2: Absolutely, that is Matt Taylor, Voice of the Colts. And 268 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 2: don't forget one short week ago today as we speak, 269 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 2: Mate was on the back of his camper with a 270 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 2: lawn chair, his shirt off, some gene shorts, getting ready 271 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 2: for a big race. 272 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 3: And look at you. 273 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 1: Now, what was what was that? That Twitter handle Indy 274 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 1: five hundred pictures? I love it. I didn't make that account, 275 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: so that's that's how you know it was a success account. 276 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 3: Somebody showed me that. 277 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 4: I just had to but between Carved Day Memorial Day, Like, 278 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,439 Speaker 4: that's the best account ever on Twitter the history of 279 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 4: the end. 280 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 3: You won't see Mate in that, but I'd love it 281 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 3: if you did, I'd love it. 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He's going to talk 308 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 2: about the ups and downs of the rookie season, the 309 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 2: mismatch that he can be on the defensive side, and 310 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 2: where he wants to improve in twenty twenty three. Matt Taylor, 311 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 2: Voice of the Colts. I'm Jeffrey Gorman. This is the 312 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 2: last Word ninety three five one oh seven five the Fans. 313 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: We now return to the off season home of the Colts. 314 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: But last word with Jeffrey Gorman and Matt Taylor from 315 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 1: the Indiana Union Construction Industry Radio Studios. 316 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 3: Wow, right there, Tom Morello. 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We continue our talk on the 343 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 3: Colts tight end. 344 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 2: We're gonna do that with Jelani Woods, mate and I 345 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 2: caught up with him earlier this week. He's going into 346 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 2: a second season, and Indie talked about how good it 347 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 2: feels for him to be back on the field. Everyone 348 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 2: agrees for that this spring after a long offseason and 349 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 2: the up and down rookie season for him both personally 350 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 2: and professionally. Here's the big fella, Jolanie Woods. 351 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 6: Honestly, it's been good man, just finally kind of being 352 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 6: able to relax a little bit and then starting to 353 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 6: get back into training and then have been you know, 354 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 6: heavenly man back. You know, at first I was like, yeah, 355 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 6: I might need this break, But then since i've been back, 356 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 6: I've been pretty excited, you know, looking forward to the 357 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 6: new year, and you're itching. 358 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 2: I can tell right now, Matt Taylor, he's itching. He's 359 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 2: happy to be back, happy to be out on the 360 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 2: practice field like your teammates doing this voluntary mini camp. 361 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 6: Definitely, you know, being with the new staff, you know, 362 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 6: just kind of bringing in that new offense a little bit. 363 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 6: But it's been awesome, man, Joint. 364 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 2: I just want to ask you real quick, because I 365 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 2: looked at your career in the NFL up to this point, 366 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 2: which one. 367 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 3: Do you like more? 368 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 2: Do you like Kansas City game to two receptions two 369 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 2: touchdowns or do you like the Pittsburgh game where you 370 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 2: went crazy? But I think it was nine receptions, eight 371 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 2: receptions for nine almost one hundred yards in that one. 372 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 2: So I mean you're talking about a rookie tight end, Matt, 373 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 2: and that was a hell of a two games. Out 374 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 2: of the seventeen games that Jolani was in. 375 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 6: I was definitely I would probably pick the Steelers game 376 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 6: just because of the moment that was outside of the game. 377 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 6: You know, being Monday night and been on national television. 378 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 6: I was able to you know, produce a product and 379 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 6: that was you know, worthwhile for me. And then my 380 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 6: whole family was there too, So that was probably my 381 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 6: my biggest you know game, I was saying, going. 382 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 4: Along with what Jeffrey was talking about, how much more 383 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 4: comfortable do you feel coming back into the building for 384 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 4: the start of your sophomore season, just in terms of 385 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 4: the feeling you have not as a rookie where you're 386 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 4: doing everything for the first time, you're stepping into the 387 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 4: building for the first time. Just how much more at 388 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 4: ease do you feel now that you're taking that big 389 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 4: jump from a first year guy to a second year 390 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 4: guy veteran status wise. 391 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 5: Oh, it's one hundred percent. 392 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 6: This is a big difference, Like now since I know 393 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 6: pretty much everything that's going on, yeah, and I know 394 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 6: just the defenses, I know the offenses. I know pretty 395 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 6: much the offense, and it's just like you know, it's 396 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 6: it's just like a whole one age now. So now 397 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 6: I feel one hundred percent comfortable. I feel to play fast. 398 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 6: I don't have to think too much, you know, and 399 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 6: just hone in on the details. 400 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 5: Now, learning the office. 401 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 2: That's Jolanie Woods Colts tight End and you come back 402 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 2: here and you're introduced to your new head coach, you're 403 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 2: introduced to your new offensive coordinator and Jim Bob Cooter. 404 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 2: If you could also about some of the meetings you 405 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 2: have with them and what they kind of project for 406 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 2: you in your sophomore campaign. 407 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 5: It's the means are. 408 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 6: It's intense because it's very very very detailed, and he 409 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 6: knows exactly what he wants and he knows exactly how 410 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 6: he likes it. You know, we hit everything to a t. 411 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 6: It's pretty awesome honestly because you know, it just makes 412 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 6: you a better player. You're learning every day, just the 413 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 6: minute stuff that you do. He's able to point it out, 414 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 6: like you turn your tot cern round the route it 415 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,199 Speaker 6: did takes your whole body, which might throw off the 416 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 6: leverage that you need to. 417 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 5: Plan or whatever like that. Like he sees all that stuff. 418 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 6: You know, it makes you want to critique yourself even 419 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 6: more to try to produce a good product for him 420 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 6: to put on tape and stuff like that. So you know, 421 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 6: on a day to day basis, that's kind of what 422 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 6: you've been going through with coach Shane and coach Bob 423 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 6: just the offense stuff. Learning from him and even my 424 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 6: position coach coach Tom Manning. He knows everything with the game. 425 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 6: He been around a lot of good tight ends and 426 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,360 Speaker 6: stuff like that, so just learning from him as well 427 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 6: has been awesome. 428 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 4: One final question about last year in your rookie season 429 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 4: and stuff. Stuff like last year happens. It was an 430 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 4: abnormal season for the Colts, but that's life in the NFL. 431 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 4: Unfortunately for you as your rookie season, your first taste 432 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 4: of the league, head coach gets fired, interim coach comes in, 433 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 4: all these different quarterbacks on a week to week basis, 434 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 4: How did that most affect you as you try to 435 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 4: get your feet wet and get indoctrinated into the NFL. 436 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:23,479 Speaker 1: Uh. 437 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 6: You know a lot of teams and a lot of 438 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 6: people always tell you, you know it's going to be you know, 439 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 6: everything's a business in the NFL, and it's gonna be 440 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 6: a lot of adversity. 441 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:34,640 Speaker 1: So just try to and you saw that early, yes, and. 442 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 6: Just try to pretty much hone in on something you 443 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 6: can do to help the situation, I guess, and like 444 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 6: for me, it was just trying to up my game 445 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 6: and show the coaches that I can be reliable. 446 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 5: Tool for the offense and things in that nature like that. 447 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 6: You know, it's just it's a of course, it's a 448 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,880 Speaker 6: tough you know deal, but at the end of the day, 449 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 6: you just have to, you know, keep put pushing, keep 450 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 6: tracking along and trying to find the best outcome you 451 00:18:57,960 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 6: can out of it. 452 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 2: Drew Ogletree coming back this year after injury, guy, you 453 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 2: came in with rookie campaign, learning from a veteran like 454 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 2: mo Aley Cox. What's this room look like to you? 455 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 5: This year? Room is awesome? 456 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 6: Honestly, like I said, so much experience now since we 457 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 6: you know, kind of got up Jews gonna when he 458 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 6: come back, he's going to be, you know, back on 459 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 6: ten already because he knows the whole offense. He's been here, 460 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 6: so mentally he got everything down back now he just 461 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 6: has to physically do it. 462 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 5: And then you know, mo just a vet. 463 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 6: We learned still learning from him, especially since he's been 464 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 6: with coach Tom Manner already. So he helps us with 465 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 6: everything and what Coach Tom Manning expects, He you know, 466 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 6: gets us it like y'all you need to do this, this, 467 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:39,679 Speaker 6: this and that. This is how he is so you know, 468 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 6: you know, he gives us the key and the tools 469 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 6: for that and then you know. 470 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,360 Speaker 5: Like you just a big brother honestly. So yeah, that's 471 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 5: just kind of how it is. 472 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: Staying with it. 473 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 4: How close did you guys get last year, both rookies, 474 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 4: both young titands? How close did you guys get that bond? 475 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 4: And then for you how how tough was it to 476 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 4: see him go through that ac all after the start 477 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 4: that he was off to at training camp. 478 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 6: Honestly it was we got really close. Of course, you 479 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 6: know everybody seeing it on the document the close thing 480 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 6: media thing, but. 481 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, we was really close. 482 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 6: And then seeing him get hurt it was kind of 483 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 6: you know, upsetting and everything, because you don't never want 484 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,360 Speaker 6: to see somebody having such a great start and then boom, 485 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 6: something like that happened. You know, once he got the injury, 486 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 6: he kind of went through that a little bit and 487 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 6: he was able to walk back walk and everything like that, 488 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 6: and we was on the field watching he was critiquing 489 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 6: me on everything that he's seen that he wanted me 490 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 6: to do or you know, congratulate me. 491 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 5: Yeah. 492 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 6: Thing, so like you know, it was just somebody that 493 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 6: was an extra, you know, ear extra mount on my 494 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 6: air day whatever, to help me keep going and pushing 495 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 6: anything like that. And then now since he's back, I 496 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 6: could be able to do the same thing for him, 497 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 6: especially since he's probably gonna be going through it for 498 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 6: the first time, so I could be able to, you know, 499 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 6: get that back to him. 500 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 4: I mean, those those first couple of weeks, I mean 501 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 4: you saw it like this guy's got it. I mean, 502 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,959 Speaker 4: it was not a big learning curve for him to 503 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 4: get up to speed in the NFL. I mean, how 504 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 4: do you look at that? How does the rest of 505 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 4: the locker room look at him coming back? Is that 506 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 4: like an extra draft pick this year considering he just 507 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 4: wasn't on the field? 508 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,679 Speaker 6: Really honestly, Yeah, it's just like you know that he 509 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:14,919 Speaker 6: got those tools, so now it's just him being comfortable 510 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 6: and being him being able to regain that type of 511 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 6: momentum ability back. 512 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 2: Honestly, what people are talking about you, Julani as far 513 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 2: as being a young rookie making an impact on the 514 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 2: field and what is coming up for you? And people 515 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 2: are talking about a couple of the big games we 516 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 2: talked about earlier, Casey and Pittsburgh. But what do you think, 517 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 2: what's the cap on you do you think as far 518 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 2: as we talked about it, and it's not a joking matter, 519 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 2: the mismatch is a real thing with this cat because 520 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 2: your size, your agility, your speed, especially in the red zone. 521 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:44,919 Speaker 5: What it is. 522 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 2: What do you expect out of yourself this sophomore year? 523 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 5: I definitely expect big things. 524 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 6: I feel like this year should be another step forward, 525 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 6: a big step forward. And I feel like as long 526 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 6: as I keep doing what I'm doing, keep trying to focus, 527 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 6: keep trying to. 528 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 5: Get better every day, it should be very exciting. 529 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 2: But your noses in that playbook, I know that game 530 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 2: you're different from last year. Coin, I understand that, But 531 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 2: do you ever have time yourself or with your crew 532 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 2: that's around you, you know, team Jilanie Woods to look 533 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 2: at other tight ends in the NFL, al successful tight 534 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 2: ends in the NFL, Guys that are your size in 535 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 2: the NFL doing what they do. Do you learn from others? 536 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 6: Most definitely like Darren Walla, even though he's not exactly 537 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 6: in mind type, some of the things he do, like 538 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 6: attacking the ball or being physical on the top of 539 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 6: his route and things like that, is you know, you want. 540 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 2: To explain that, explain that to the NFL fan being 541 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 2: physical on the top of his. 542 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 6: Route, so like, you know, one thing that I pretty 543 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 6: much did over the past, you know, last year, and 544 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 6: then the offense was around like costing routes and sometimes 545 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 6: the safeties play man and they might think you're not 546 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 6: fast and they might sit at fifteen to twenty yards 547 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,640 Speaker 6: on you and being able to you know, attack vertically 548 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 6: at him kind of you know, put the pressure on 549 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 6: their toe thinking I'm gonna go vertical and then break 550 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 6: a you know, crossing route across the face and then 551 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 6: them kind of trying to stick on you at the 552 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 6: same time and then have been able to contest the 553 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 6: catches or anything like that, being able to you know, 554 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 6: put your body on. 555 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 3: You in a good mood up. 556 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:14,919 Speaker 2: But when you know you got a safety on his 557 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 2: heels and you could, oh, definitely he's waiting to go 558 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 2: left or go deep, and I'm gonna playhim either way. 559 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 6: Definitely, that's like advantage Jelana, definitely because they don't know 560 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 6: what you're gonna do. And then I ran a couple 561 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 6: of sales last year, so I didn't know if I'm 562 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 6: gonna break out. I ran a lot of crossers last 563 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 6: year and then I ran a lot of verticals, so 564 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 6: they just being able to put all three together on 565 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 6: the same type of stem and just you know, make 566 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 6: them scared pretty much. They don't know which way I'm 567 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 6: gonna go this and that. So that's something that Darren 568 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:41,360 Speaker 6: Waller does really well. 569 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 3: I like what you said there, make them scared, all. 570 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 4: Right, here's one I look this up. Okay, last year, 571 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 4: Jalannie Woods is our guests. By the way, you had 572 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 4: four catches last season over twenty five yards, second most 573 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 4: among all rookie tight ends last season. How much can 574 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 4: you exploit that part of your game into. 575 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: A new offense? 576 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 6: With Shane Steiking, I feel like that's just a start, 577 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 6: honestly with him, you got some similarities in the offense, 578 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,919 Speaker 6: of course, come from the family tree, of course, so 579 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 6: you know him already kind of knowing that just being 580 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 6: him possibly being able to implement and in the same 581 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 6: type of roles anyway, and me just you know, attacking 582 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 6: those roles like I did before and just trying to 583 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 6: keep going. 584 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 4: The best part about you is again your athleticism, your height, 585 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 4: your speed, agility, all that, but you like to mix 586 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:31,239 Speaker 4: it up. 587 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: You are a willing blocker as they like to say. 588 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 4: In that regard, how did you get better throughout the 589 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 4: course of your rookie season in the running game as 590 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:40,719 Speaker 4: a blocking tight end? 591 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 6: Just had this side work. Honestly, this side work was 592 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 6: Clayton at the time. He helped me, you know, get 593 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 6: more leverageable. And then he helped me because he was 594 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 6: always like, all right, you're good with attacking, but just 595 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 6: fitting and hands and feet where that we needed to 596 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 6: work on. It was like, like you said, I was, 597 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 6: I'm willing to do it to text somebody, but it 598 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 6: was just put my hat in the right place, my hands, 599 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 6: my feet in the right place, and just try to 600 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 6: keep consistently building those days and then you know it 601 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 6: can be natural. It won't be something meat I'm thinking 602 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 6: about doing. 603 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 2: I just got one more I got to end with. 604 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 2: I mean, it involves your athleticism. And by the way, folks, 605 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 2: this is a large athlete, one of the premier athletes 606 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,199 Speaker 2: in the world. These guys are, and I remind you 607 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 2: watch Joelanie Woods on the field, watch what he does. 608 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,679 Speaker 2: But let's have a little one on one tournament on 609 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 2: the basketball field for that wide, for for that tight end. 610 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,919 Speaker 2: Room who comes out winning that one you. 611 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: I'm definitely saying, well, they probably need to get basketball field. 612 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 3: What did I say, basketball? 613 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 5: That might be good competition. 614 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 2: He's got something like he's got resumes at the second 615 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:55,360 Speaker 2: highest level. 616 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 6: And I could have played college. And I'll be telling 617 00:25:58,359 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 6: I tell them all the time. I know you turn, 618 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 6: I just told his quarterback because you know it was 619 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 6: just say that you chose what chose quarterback? 620 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 3: Quarterback? 621 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 5: That's right? 622 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 1: Do you miss playing quarterback, Titan? 623 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 5: I'll say titand more fine. Tight end is way more fine. 624 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 2: You don't need to confirm it, Deny, Are you the 625 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 2: emergency quarterback last year for this team? 626 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 3: Were you yes or no? 627 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 1: Silence says it all. That's right, Jilanie. 628 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 3: That was great, man. I appreciate the time and stuff 629 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 3: like that. 630 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,400 Speaker 2: And I know we joke around a lot about that, 631 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 2: that tight endw But you guys are a special group. 632 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 2: You're a special athlete and really it's. 633 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,439 Speaker 1: A special guy too. For the special guy. 634 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 2: Coming through what you did and everything and uh perseverance 635 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 2: through your career. A couple of colleges, like you said, 636 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 2: went to greener pastors. And I say this at the 637 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 2: end of most interviews with guys like you look at 638 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 2: you now. 639 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 5: Oh, definitely, congrats man, thank you. 640 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 3: May Te. Big fan of that man, big fan of that. 641 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 1: Big fella. 642 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 2: Love that he comes out of the quarterback. Could you 643 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 2: imagine that when he goes to college. That's six foot 644 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:55,400 Speaker 2: seven tour. 645 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: Got into that right. Yeah, good god, it's got to 646 00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: be the emergency quarterback. 647 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 3: I mean I just scratched my yeah. Yeah, my sources 648 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 3: tell me. 649 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 1: He can still I bet he can still sling. 650 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 3: In long sources he was maybe we'll see him. 651 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 4: No, how about a tight how about a tight end 652 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 4: screen double pass featuring Jolynie Woods? 653 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 3: He can sling it. Come on to Anthony Richardson on 654 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 3: the wheel road you go about it. 655 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,479 Speaker 4: Throw it, throw it to the right side and then 656 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,199 Speaker 4: Richardson league's off left. I mean, I think we just 657 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 4: came up with the play, didn't we? 658 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,719 Speaker 2: Coach Stichen and Jim Bob. You can use that if 659 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 2: you want. Just quote me and mate on it. 660 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:25,400 Speaker 1: What do we call on that play? 661 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 6: Oh? 662 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 5: Woods? 663 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: Woods double pass for six to five? Anthony Richardson the 664 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: large what's a big wheel? 665 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,120 Speaker 3: What's a big what's a huge wheel? Like a construction 666 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:33,880 Speaker 3: what are those things? 667 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 6: Oh? 668 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, like a monster trucks? Truck wheel go route. 669 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 2: That's what it is. Okay, we're gonna stick the radio. 670 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 2: We'll let those guys design the plays. 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Yeah. 741 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 3: We're brought to you by our friends at Meyer. 742 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 2: Here at the Last Word, Meyer, the official super center 743 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 2: of the Indeapolis Colts, proud sponsor of hundreds of local 744 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 2: sports teams across the Midwest. It is now time, mate, 745 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 2: for you to put on your thinking cap. We go 746 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 2: to the Forum Credit Union Question of the week. We 747 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 2: spoke earlier with Jeelanie Woods. He had quite the coming 748 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 2: out party last year. In Week three of the Chiefs, 749 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,239 Speaker 2: he snagged his first two career catches and both of 750 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,479 Speaker 2: them went for touchdowns. The first two catches of his 751 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 2: career were touchdowns. 752 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 3: Do we understand this? 753 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: PHO points? Yeah? 754 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 3: How about this? 755 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 2: Including the game winner in the closing minutes Mayte who 756 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 2: is the last Colts tight end to record a touchdown 757 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 2: on their first ever NFL catch? Jeli Woods got two 758 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 2: of them. Oh man, I want to know what this 759 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 2: former Colts tight end to record a touchdown on his 760 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 2: first career catch. 761 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: Who wasn't man, what a question? Uh? 762 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 4: Well, okay, so it's just tight ends. Yes, so I'm 763 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 4: thinking of rookie tight ends. So oh boy, let's go back. 764 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 3: I'll give you a little real hint in there. 765 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 2: Maybe a decade in that sort of time frame, maybe a. 766 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: All right, so like twenty ten, eleven, twelve. 767 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 3: We're in there, sure, And don't forget about a big 768 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:53,959 Speaker 3: tight end. 769 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 4: I think the only I think the only rookie tight 770 00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 4: ends in that stretch of time were and Dwayne Allen. 771 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 2: There it is ding Ding Dean Dwayne Allen. In two thousand, 772 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 2: I was too, That's what I thought about this. But 773 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 2: in twenty twelve, Dwayne Allen had his first career catch 774 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 2: in the NFL against the Minnesota Vikings and it went 775 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 2: four to six. Don't forget Toby Fleener, Dwayne Allen, t 776 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 2: Y Hilton all part of the same draft class. One 777 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 2: man behind those three, who was it? One man behind 778 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 2: those three getting them here in Indianapolis. 779 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 1: One man that would be Ryan Grigson well or Jeffrey Gorman. No, no, jeff, 780 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: what are you looking for? 781 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 3: I'm just saying Bruce arians as a happy man. 782 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 2: Oh, Koby Fleinner and Dwayne Allen and c Y Hilton 783 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 2: were drafted. 784 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 3: Thank you an advance and afterwards coach. 785 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: As we were not on the same wavelengths, No, we were. Hey. 786 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 2: Visit the forum credit Union Fan Forum section of Colt 787 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 2: Stock Now risk it no biscuit baby, that's right, BA. 788 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 2: You can interact with other fans online. Visit forum credit 789 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 2: Union Fan Forum section, post a topic, participating in various 790 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 2: discussions regarding your Colts Forum credit Union helping members live 791 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 2: the financial dreams. NFL big story and well it does 792 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 2: have a Patriot angle to it, and or say he 793 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 2: is going up there in the middle of summer with 794 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 2: that Olive branch up there. So let's talk about the 795 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 2: New England Patriots Captain Matthew Slater. 796 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 3: I would say, he's on. Boy. 797 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 2: How do I say this? Is he a Hall of Famer? 798 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 2: I guess is what I'm gonna ask. He's been great. 799 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 2: Steve Tasker's been great. There's been a couple others that 800 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 2: are just known as special team aces, and Matthew Slater 801 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 2: keeps showing up in New England and doing great jobs 802 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 2: and going to Pro Bowls every year. He's got ten 803 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 2: of them. They're an NFL record for a special teams player. Well, anyway, 804 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 2: Slater criticized the league for last week's rule change that 805 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 2: allows fair catches on kickoffs for next season. We got 806 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 2: into that last week. The NFL has cited player safety 807 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 2: as primary reason for the change, which Slater says, I 808 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 2: don't know about this right. He referenced Thursday Night Football 809 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 2: choosing synthetic turf over natural grass field For a player 810 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,479 Speaker 2: like me, I wouldn't add the career most likely without 811 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 2: this play. He's talking about the kickoffs. I also understand 812 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,479 Speaker 2: that the players came before me Ve Taskers, the Bill Bates, 813 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 2: who were able to establish themselves and have careers in 814 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 2: this league because of the special teams game and the 815 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 2: kicking game. Slater question the NFL's interpretation of the concussion data. 816 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 2: We all know data can be skewed and projected in 817 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,840 Speaker 2: any way you want to slice it up. Slater said, 818 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 2: it's clear to me that they're making an effort to 819 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 2: eradicate this play. 820 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 3: What say you, mate, Is he right? 821 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 1: Ah? 822 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 4: I don't know if I necessarily side with Slater, but 823 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 4: I certainly understand where he's coming from, because, like we 824 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 4: said last week, when it comes to this rule and 825 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 4: fans if they see a returner wave their hands in 826 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 4: the air and signal for a fair catch and the 827 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 4: ball goes to the twenty five yard line. I don't 828 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 4: think anybody's going to lose their minds at that point. 829 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:48,760 Speaker 4: It's essentially a touchback. And we've become so immune to 830 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 4: touchbacks because of how commonplace they are, we really don't 831 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 4: think too much about it. But I do understand where 832 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,840 Speaker 4: Slater's coming from because it does take some of the 833 00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,839 Speaker 4: strategy out of the game. And I agree with him 834 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 4: in and that you know, when when there's not a 835 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 4: fair catch on a kickoff, then it's just a kickoff. 836 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 4: Like then, still just as risky of a play as 837 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 4: it always is. 838 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 2: Hey, say, follow me on this. Let's say they're deep 839 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 2: man on any team this upcoming year is at the 840 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 2: four yard line. That's their deep guy. He's not on 841 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 2: the goal line. He's at the four because he knows 842 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 2: like a pooch is coming type of thing, possibly right, 843 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,839 Speaker 2: and if that's the case, may take. He's like, Hey, 844 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:25,919 Speaker 2: I'm gonna get the ten yard head start on this thing. 845 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be able to beat these guys. Does it 846 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 2: promote more kick returners at the five six four yard 847 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 2: line and they're saying, hey, it's a short kick. I'm 848 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 2: taking it out and my pants are on fire because 849 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 2: I'm going as fast as I can, as violently as 850 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:38,319 Speaker 2: I Okay, what. 851 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 4: I think you're gonna have, what I think is gonna happen, 852 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 4: is you're gonna have more squibs. You're gonna have more 853 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 4: squib kicks to prevent teams from signaling for a fair catch. 854 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 3: Once it hits the dirt. You can't fair catch a 855 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 3: live ball, right. 856 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,359 Speaker 4: And I think you're gonna have special teams coordinators that 857 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,359 Speaker 4: look at this rule, and there's a lot of them 858 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 4: that say, we weren't in favor of it. 859 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 1: We don't like this. So a way to combat it is. 860 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 4: We're gonna swib the make you return it because we 861 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 4: have confidence and trust in our coverage teams that can 862 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 4: get you down prior to the twenty five yard line 863 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,399 Speaker 4: and play field position. Now, the question is how much 864 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 4: safer is that for the game our squip kick is 865 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 4: gonna be more dangerous? I mean, I don't know the 866 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 4: answer to that. Time's gonna tell on it. But again 867 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 4: I do see Slater's side of this, because the NFL 868 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 4: does do some things that are seemingly not of the 869 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 4: best interest of player safety. And he has carved out 870 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:31,320 Speaker 4: a fantastic career on special teams and has made life 871 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 4: changing money because of it. And if we continue to 872 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 4: make strides of eliminating the kicking game in the NFL, 873 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 4: players like him, And then if you just look at 874 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 4: it from a Colts angle, like the Ashton Doolan's of 875 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 4: the world, the George Odoms and the Andy Studebakers of 876 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 4: years gone by, E J. Speeds of the world, Matt 877 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 4: Adam Zyer, Franklin, Tony Brown, the list kind of goes 878 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 4: on and on. Some of these Colts great special teams 879 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 4: players over the years, they may have been out of 880 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 4: a job and not been able to carve out great 881 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 4: careers without getting the chance to break into the league 882 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 4: and prove their worth on either offense or defense by 883 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,800 Speaker 4: playing special teams. So I think it's a very complicated issue, 884 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 4: to say. 885 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,360 Speaker 2: The least, get ready for it, because it's gonna be 886 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 2: either kicked out of the end zone, squib kicked, or 887 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 2: a lot of hands rising up into the air. And 888 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 2: I agree with you, Hey, I'm taking the first down 889 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 2: at the nineteen art I. 890 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 4: Don't think you're gonna see a lot of traditional kicks 891 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 4: taken from the one yard line of the goal line. 892 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 1: I agree with you. 893 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:25,880 Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be one of those three things, 894 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 4: squibbed touchbacks or fair catch, fair catch. 895 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 3: It's coming. 896 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 2: Rules are changing for player safety. Matthew Slater doesn't agree 897 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,280 Speaker 2: with it, regardless. He's a great player and the coach 898 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 2: will see him in Germany this year. 899 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,360 Speaker 3: Matt Taylor, Voice of the Colts. He's the best in 900 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 3: the business. 901 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 2: This young man works tirelessly through the offseason and in season, 902 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 2: and may tey, I don't say that enough. 903 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:47,840 Speaker 3: You are the best in the business. 904 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 1: And we're lucky to have youwise man like, Hey, we. 905 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 2: Are the last word every Friday coming at you. I 906 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,399 Speaker 2: think there's a race this weekend in Detroit. Good luck 907 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,719 Speaker 2: to all the IndyCar racers out there. Back to back 908 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,759 Speaker 2: coming up next right here on ninety three five and 909 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 2: one oh seven five. 910 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,920 Speaker 3: The fans, we got ESPN Radio. We'll talk to you 911 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 3: next week.