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Speaker 2: Well, good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning,

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Speaker 3: Good morning, God morning.

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Speaker 2: Every buddy, happy, happy, happy Thanksgiving Saturday.

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Speaker 3: Hoping your holiday was incredible.

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Speaker 2: I hope you had a beautiful, beautiful, beautiful weekend so

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Speaker 2: far with family and food and football and everything that

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Speaker 2: we love, kicking off the holiday season in a great way.

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Speaker 3: Of course, we're the Felis.

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Speaker 2: I'm Anthony Gargano and of course my man, we got

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Speaker 2: our boy Jason Fitz and Kevin Figures and all of

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Speaker 2: you guys are happy Thanksgiving weekend.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, fit See how was your Thanksgiving?

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Speaker 1: Buddy, No, man, it was you know, I was thinking

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Speaker 1: to you on Thanksgiving because you know, that's what friends do.

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Speaker 1: But I was thinking of you because you know, I

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Speaker 1: went to the casino. I'm not gonna lie. I just

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Speaker 1: went to because I made it. I was going nuts.

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Speaker 1: But as I went to the casino, I walked in

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Speaker 1: and like there was a sports book that had like

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Speaker 1: a whole Thanksgiving dinner. So like I was watching football

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Speaker 1: while eating the thanks Giving dinner in the sports book.

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Speaker 1: Like in between you know, table games that were just

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Speaker 1: crushing me. And I walked by and there was a

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Speaker 1: there's a big Italian restaurant there and it was packed.

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Speaker 1: It was packed, and it made me think because I

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Speaker 1: was like, you know what, I think. I think there's

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Speaker 1: a certain group of people that eat eating better food

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Speaker 1: today because like Turkey, Turkey's fine, but like the Italian

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Speaker 1: feast on Nankshiving, I'm going to make myself next year

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Speaker 1: an honorary Italian so that I can eat the full

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Speaker 1: Italian feast. That that's what That's what's going on.

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Speaker 2: How about you just come down and just come over

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Speaker 2: my house. How's that do you ever?

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Speaker 3: Let? Oh? Well, yeah, listen, I know people that have that.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, that is that.

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Speaker 3: Is perfect?

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Speaker 1: That was perfect they have that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. It was some good football too. I mean, look,

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Speaker 3: just something like that.

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Speaker 2: Holidays is the best because it just is all about, like,

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Speaker 2: you know, eating and football and they have the game

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Speaker 2: on and the Packers come to play.

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Speaker 3: How about that.

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Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, I did not see the Green

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Speaker 2: Bay defense playing like that, especially. I mean, they're all

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Speaker 2: banged up really on both sides of the ball. No

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Speaker 2: Aaron Jones though, Luke Musgrave defensively, they were just one

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Speaker 3: Fitzy amazing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I was stunned by that result, only

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Speaker 1: because it felt like if there was ever a time

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Speaker 1: this year, you know, when you think about Thanksgiving this year,

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Speaker 1: for Detroit being at home this year, and as good

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Speaker 1: as that team is, you just think, Okay, this one's

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Speaker 1: gonna be simple, right, Like there is just there is

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Speaker 1: no way that the Lions are gonna lose on Thanksgiving

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Speaker 1: Day when they're this good. They were. They were down

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Speaker 1: bit of a shell shock moment, right like, so it

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Speaker 1: just felt like the Packers came out with a little

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Speaker 1: that I don't I still don't believe are particularly good.

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Speaker 1: Then Jordan Love goes off in that game. So if

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Speaker 1: you're the Lions, you got to kind of go back

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Speaker 1: to the route and figure out, Okay, how do we

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Speaker 1: fix that, because that's a huge opportunity loss. We've talked

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Speaker 1: so much about how easy the Lions schedule is for

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Speaker 1: the rest of the year. Well, you gotta show up

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Speaker 1: and win these games. I mean, there's just no two

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Speaker 1: to Jordan Love having that big moment in that national stage,

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Speaker 1: but a little stunning to see the Lions come up

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Speaker 1: much of a sensation this year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I really I thought it was gonna be a

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Speaker 3: That's a big loss.

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Speaker 2: That's a disappointing loss to me because on a day

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Speaker 2: you saw Dallas roll, you saw the Niners roll, the

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Speaker 2: Detroit needed to make a statement to say that we

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think they've got to look at the

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Speaker 1: mirror right now and figure out what's going on with

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Speaker 1: some of the turnover issues they're having, right I mean,

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Speaker 1: because they certainly have more than their fair share of

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Speaker 1: around three fumbles on the game on Thanksgiving. It just

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Speaker 1: feels like everything's suddenly out of sick now. The forty

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Speaker 1: if you're the Lions, you got to look in the

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Speaker 1: mirror and figure out what's going on with that. The penalty.

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Speaker 1: It feels like the penalties have been him in the

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh figure, Good morning, Happy Thanksgiving, Buddy.

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Speaker 4: Good morning, Happy Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: Boys.

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Speaker 5: And yes, you know you wonder if this is you know,

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Speaker 5: to quote a great Detroit native, you know, will the

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Speaker 5: police limit Shady please stand up? Maybe the police destroy

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Speaker 5: out there real Detroit Lions, please stand up. That might

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Speaker 5: be what it looks like right now in Jered Golf.

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Speaker 5: So when I saw close and personal with the Rams

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Speaker 5: and one of the big bug boozs as to why

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Speaker 5: he was traded away was a turnovers like you mentioned Fitzie,

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Speaker 5: and look, three interceptions against the Bears that were able

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Speaker 5: to come back and get that win. You lose three

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Speaker 5: fumbles on top of Campbell, I love his aggressiveness to

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Speaker 5: a certain degree, but you just wonder if you're over

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Speaker 5: aggressive at times and going forward on fourth down, fake punts,

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Speaker 5: things like that come back and bite you, and they

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Speaker 5: can end up costing. Like you mentioned, we thought it

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Speaker 5: might be an easy walkover for them to have the

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Speaker 5: top seed in the NFC, and all of a sudden

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I you know, you bring up a great point

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Speaker 2: was just a bad call. It just well, it's just

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Speaker 2: a bad call. You forced it. They had every you know,

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Speaker 2: they had opportunities to come back and get that game,

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Speaker 2: and that was just I mean that that was ultimately

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Speaker 2: the game itself, and you're right, sloppy figure, it was

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Speaker 2: just just not good man again. It's a it's a day.

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Speaker 2: It's we see the Cowboys later on, show you how

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Speaker 2: dynamic they can be. The Niners, I mean, the nine

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Speaker 3: It's you know, up.

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Speaker 2: And down the field and cruise. I don't care if

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Speaker 2: this is if this Seattle team isn't last year or not.

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Speaker 2: That's an impressive win, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, as you said that, and I really hadn't thought

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Speaker 1: about it this way, but as you said it, you're

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Speaker 1: so right that we saw two teams look like absolute

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Speaker 1: Because you're right, San Francisco just went in and it

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Speaker 1: was like watching a heavyweight fight where one person's just

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Speaker 1: absolutely far better than the other. They were toying with

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Speaker 1: them for much of it. Seattle was never really in

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Speaker 1: they beat you in every possible way, all over the field.

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Speaker 1: I walked away Sunday or Thursday night from that game

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Speaker 1: after watching that thinking, my god, like whatever I thought

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Speaker 1: San Francisco was going to be right, now they look

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Speaker 1: better than that.

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Speaker 3: And it's fun.

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Speaker 1: It's stunning to look back at that losing streak earlier

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Speaker 1: and say what went wrong? Because I know obviously injury

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Speaker 1: part of that. Now they get healthy, but man, San

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Speaker 1: Francisco just look dominant. And I don't want to gloss

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Speaker 1: over what the Cowboys did too, because I know that

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Speaker 1: we won't. We all know Washington, Washington stinks, but give

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Speaker 1: flowers to both of them because those two teams both

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Speaker 1: you watched them like, yeah, that's the super Bowl caliber team,

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Speaker 1: like there was no question about that from both those games.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we'll get it too, because I want to

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Speaker 2: talk about Prescott, who was fantastic. But you know, really,

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Speaker 2: you know, the Detroit thing is is more just context

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Speaker 3: Make a statement.

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Speaker 2: Now on the flip side, let's talk about how could

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Speaker 2: Jordan Love look. Jordan Love looked like you know, the

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Speaker 2: the young Aaron Rodgers that he was a guy who

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Speaker 2: sat and watched Aaron Rodgers. He looked, he looked poised,

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Speaker 2: he made the right decisions, you know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I can't say I can't give enough.

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Speaker 2: Flowers to Jordan Love, who deserved to me, was just

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Speaker 2: phenomenal for.

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Speaker 1: Two straight games. By the way, I mean, if you

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Speaker 1: go back to the Chargers win where it's twenty seven

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Speaker 1: there's this moment where the completion percentage is up, the

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Speaker 1: mistakes are down. You know, I just you look at efficiency.

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Speaker 1: Jordan Love is playing far better right now than he was,

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Speaker 1: and you know I was maybe, well, let's see how

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Speaker 1: it looks for the rest of season. I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: ungive up on Jordan Love. I'm not sure he's really

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Speaker 1: the answer. But if you're the Packers, this is exactly

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Speaker 1: what you hoped would happen. Like somebody that hasn't played

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Speaker 1: a lot of football in a long time coming on

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Speaker 1: strong late in the season would a make sense and

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Speaker 1: it would be validated a lot for the Packers, and

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Speaker 1: see it would change their entire offseason. So if you

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Speaker 1: look at this from the lens of hey, where are

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Speaker 1: we on Jordan Love? Two straight wins against the Chargers

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Speaker 1: and the Lions, two very good teams, but also where

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Speaker 1: he played or at least in theory good teams, and

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Speaker 1: also where he played well in both of those games. Man,

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Speaker 1: you got to feel internally in that building they got

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Speaker 1: to feel a lot better about Jordan Love today than

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Speaker 1: they did a week ago. Today, after these two.

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Speaker 3: Games, Oh man, you kidding me? Yeah, I mean you

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Speaker 3: feel great.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, I just thought he was in control

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Speaker 6: Happy Thanksgiving, guys. It's good to be back. I missed

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Speaker 3: That's right, man, we missed you to do you have

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Speaker 7: You got any home time, yeah, so, but the home

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Speaker 2: And you know there was holidays, right buddy, Mark, Happy Thanksgiving, Buddy.

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Speaker 4: Happy Thanksgiving. Thank you. It was very good.

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Speaker 8: Like I said, I was here working, slaving over a

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Speaker 1: feel like Ohio State has every chance to go in

440
00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,760
Speaker 1: there win this game. But is as much as I

441
00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:32,639
Speaker 1: want the chaos of a Michigan win, I think Ohio

442
00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:33,399
Speaker 1: State's gonna win it.

443
00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:35,040
Speaker 3: Wow.

444
00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:40,439
Speaker 2: You like Ohio States a wow to go into the

445
00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,840
Speaker 2: big House. Listen, the line right now is Michigan three

446
00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:48,560
Speaker 2: and a half, So you know clearly you know it's uh,

447
00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:52,000
Speaker 2: you know, listen, it's it's I think it's a great game.

448
00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:56,520
Speaker 2: I'm completely on the fence. I keep trying to get

449
00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:58,960
Speaker 2: clarity with this game. I'm glad you have some clarity.

450
00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,840
Speaker 2: I have none when it comes to this game because

451
00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,720
Speaker 2: part of me agrees with exactly what you're saying. And

452
00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:09,000
Speaker 2: I like the way McCord has grown throughout the year,

453
00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:13,560
Speaker 2: and you're spot on about Marvin Junior. Marvin Junior is

454
00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:18,080
Speaker 2: definitely the best player on the field. I think Michigan

455
00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:23,560
Speaker 2: has the better defense. I keep going back and forth

456
00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:28,120
Speaker 2: on is the offense really hurt without horriball because I'm

457
00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:28,800
Speaker 2: not so sure.

458
00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,080
Speaker 3: But to your point, they.

459
00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:35,160
Speaker 2: Haven't showed even against Penn State like they just it

460
00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,560
Speaker 2: was just the run, run, run. Now against Maryland you're

461
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,840
Speaker 2: not gonna put a lot on tape either, So maybe it's,

462
00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,920
Speaker 2: you know, let me go conservative and then just pull

463
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:46,800
Speaker 2: out the stops against Ohio State.

464
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,159
Speaker 3: Could that be it, Figgie, I don't know.

465
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,679
Speaker 5: I don't know if I necessarily agree that Michigan clearly

466
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 5: has the better defense. To be honest with you, there, look,

467
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,760
Speaker 5: there's the argument to be said that, well, they didn't

468
00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:58,760
Speaker 5: show a whole lot against Penn State and Maryland because

469
00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,760
Speaker 5: they didn't need to, or maybe those are the two

470
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:03,880
Speaker 5: best teams they've played this year and they're not as

471
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,400
Speaker 5: good as you know, beating everybody by forty unless they're

472
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 5: just a garbage team.

473
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Speaker 3: And so we.

474
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Speaker 5: Discussed this a little bit going into last weekend, and

475
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Speaker 5: I thought that Ohio State clearly had the advantage from

476
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,359
Speaker 5: my standpoint, because I do think they're that good defensively,

477
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 5: and I think offensively they have enough weapons to be

478
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 5: able to score points against this Michigan defense, which really

479
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:23,600
Speaker 5: hasn't been tested.

480
00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 4: So the three that have forgiven.

481
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:27,600
Speaker 5: Me the three and a half points all day long,

482
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Speaker 5: I loved Ohio State going into this last weekend. I've

483
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,240
Speaker 5: seen nothing or heard nothing this past week to change

484
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 5: my thought on that so I'm not really on the

485
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Speaker 5: fence at all. I like Ohio State to win this,

486
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,119
Speaker 5: to win the game by at least three points.

487
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 4: To be honest with.

488
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Speaker 1: You, I feel like, go ahead, FITZI, But no, I

489
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,639
Speaker 1: feel like there's this moment too where I want to

490
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:50,640
Speaker 1: be clear. I'll excuse excuses a rough word to use,

491
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Speaker 1: but I understand the Penn State offensive look for Michigan,

492
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 1: because it really did feel like they were making a statement, Hey,

493
00:22:57,800 --> 00:22:59,439
Speaker 1: we can run the ball, you can't stop it, and

494
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,520
Speaker 1: we are going to the damn ball right down your throats.

495
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 1: Not a thing you can do about it. I think

496
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 1: that I can understand that, I can make that, I

497
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 1: can navigate that. In my mind, I can't navigate the

498
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,680
Speaker 1: Maryland struggles, right, that's the hard part. And Maryland, to

499
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 1: their credit, hung tight with Ohio State for a have

500
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 1: to so like, I'll give them, you know, their flowers

501
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:21,119
Speaker 1: for playing up to this competition. But man, I just

502
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 1: the offense is out of whack. And then on the

503
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 1: other side of high stake, it's Trevion Henderson is obviously back.

504
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 1: He's he's feeling good. So now Ohio State is gonna

505
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,919
Speaker 1: have the luxury of Henderson and Marvin Harrison Junior. And

506
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 1: I honestly think Michigan's gonna have to give more to

507
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 1: trying to stop Marvin Harrison Junior, which is going to

508
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,879
Speaker 1: create good lanes for Trevon Henderson to run the football. So, like,

509
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 1: I just I feel like matchup wise, this this leans

510
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 1: Ohio State.

511
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,360
Speaker 5: And in the event, and it hasn't happened all season long.

512
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,439
Speaker 5: But let's say Blake Korum doesn't run for over one

513
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 5: hundred and thirty yards and they need to be able

514
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:54,879
Speaker 5: to rely on JJ McCarthy.

515
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 4: They haven't had to do it. Can he do that?

516
00:23:58,280 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 3: Maybe?

517
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:00,679
Speaker 4: I don't think so. I really don't trust it, to

518
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 4: be honest with you.

519
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 5: They've been able to win consistently one way all season long.

520
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 5: And if they're forced to go in a one dimensional

521
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,440
Speaker 5: style to win this game or I have to make plays,

522
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,160
Speaker 5: I don't know if I trust JJ McCarthy you don't

523
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,159
Speaker 5: want to do it's trust too because McCord's had to

524
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 5: make some big drives this year.

525
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what's funny?

526
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 2: I uh, I agree with you when it comes to McCarthy, like,

527
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:29,359
Speaker 2: and I find it odd that they needn't And Fitzy.

528
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 3: You talked about this, and I would spot ale on

529
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 3: with you.

530
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,880
Speaker 2: Like, especially against Penn State in a game like that

531
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 2: on the road, I think it's imperative.

532
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 3: It was imperative for them to get.

533
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:45,920
Speaker 2: Their passing game rolling, like in preparation for Ohio State.

534
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,680
Speaker 2: So you know, you're buttoned it up and you threw

535
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,639
Speaker 2: the ball wherever it was eight times that game. I

536
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 2: thought it was ridiculous.

537
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 4: Did they not attempt to pass in the second half?

538
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,680
Speaker 3: No, not one pass in the second half.

539
00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 2: And I didn't understand that mindset, know wing they You're

540
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,440
Speaker 2: gonna have to throw it against Ohio State.

541
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

542
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:09,120
Speaker 1: I think that speaks to the questions that happen of Okay,

543
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: what difference does your coach being on the sideline make?

544
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 1: You know? Are there levels here where suddenly you're turning

545
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 1: around and saying, hey, if everybody was just focused on

546
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 1: their job as a coach, then maybe that creates an

547
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 1: easier opportunity for guys to go out and do a

548
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,399
Speaker 1: better job of play calling. Maybe there's this level of

549
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,640
Speaker 1: just calm that Harball brings to the sideline, Like there

550
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 1: has to be some credit here if we can believe

551
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 1: that there's literally no drop off for Jim Harbaugh not

552
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 1: being on the sidelines during games, then I think we're

553
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 1: devaluing coach a little bit there, you know. And he's

554
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,120
Speaker 1: still around during the week, still instituting the game plan.

555
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 1: I understand all of these things. But in the game,

556
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 1: there is a discipline to play calling, there is a

557
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,159
Speaker 1: discipline to feeling out the game itself that maybe has

558
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: been impacted by this. I don't know, but I do

559
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,879
Speaker 1: know this. There is just nothing on Michigan's schedule this

560
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 1: year that gives us any proof of concept are ready

561
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 1: for this football game. And conversely, I still think that

562
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,400
Speaker 1: going into Notre Dame and winning at night at Notre

563
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 1: Dame is significant for example, Right, So like I think

564
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 1: that there are a couple of moments he where I've said, Okay,

565
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 1: I understand what Kyvalcorn could do in a big situation.

566
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 1: I have no idea this year what this Michigan team

567
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 1: would do against the quality opponent, because they really have

568
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 1: barely played anything.

569
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,640
Speaker 5: Also, how they won a Notre Dame, you know, coming

570
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 5: down to the final second matter. Having some adversity early

571
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 5: on against Rutgers, who was running the ball down their

572
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 5: throat and controlling the clock, and having adversity and being

573
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 5: able to fight through that and win that convincingly. Ohio

574
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 5: State has been able to win in multiple ways this year.

575
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 5: Michigan has only been able to bludgeon people up into

576
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 5: this last couple of weeks. So this last week against

577
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 5: Maryland specifically, that was really the first challenge they've had

578
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 5: all season long. And you just wonder, in a high

579
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 5: pressure situation without their head coach on the sideline, if

580
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 5: it comes down to it again against Ohio State, who

581
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 5: do I trust more? I trust the team I've seen

582
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:55,400
Speaker 5: in that situation.

583
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 2: Ohio State's a good point, it really is.

584
00:26:59,160 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 3: Now.

585
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 2: I did think Notre Dame gave that game away, but.

586
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, the calls at the end where live left

587
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 5: much to be desired, the penalty, the right, you know,

588
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 5: all of that.

589
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 2: I get it, you know, but but you know, you

590
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,959
Speaker 2: still have to show the resiliency to win like that

591
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 2: on the road.

592
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 3: So that's you know, that's to your point.

593
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 5: I'll say this too, And and look, this may affect

594
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 5: the coaches more than it affects the players on the field,

595
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,120
Speaker 5: but I will say Brian Day is gonna lose lose

596
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 5: situation here no matter what happens, because if he beats

597
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 5: Michigan without harbor on the sideline, you beat Michigan without

598
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 5: harbor on the sideline. If you lose, how the hell

599
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 5: do you lose to Michigan again? And they don't even

600
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 5: have Jim Harball, So I mean Ryan does he doesn't win.

601
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, in fairness, and I hear you

602
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 2: loud and clear about you know, devaluing the head coach

603
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 2: and the whole thing. But you know, if to me,

604
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 2: if if Ryan Day goes into the Big House and wins,

605
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,919
Speaker 2: I mean, because you remember that that's what he's fighting against,

606
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 2: right yeah, yeah, right, so you know what believe that

607
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 2: noise like if you win in the Big House, the

608
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 2: card ball, no armball. It's not like he hasn't been

609
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 2: game playing all week. So you know, like, to me,

610
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 2: he deserves his all the flowers in the world. If

611
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,199
Speaker 2: he goes in and wins that game, I'd give it

612
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:19,479
Speaker 2: to him.

613
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 5: But you just know there's a certain sect of people,

614
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 5: Michigan people specifically, that will not live that down.

615
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's gotta be that. That's I mean, that's you

616
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 2: know to go in. I look, Darren underdo for a reason.

617
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 2: So you know, give me the three points for the home

618
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 2: for the uh for home field, and you know the

619
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 2: old adage. So then now you're you know, a slight favorite.

620
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 2: It's like dog going into the whole game. I mean,

621
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 2: that's this is this is a big deal. It's a

622
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 2: big deal for the quarterback too, because the quarterbacks look good.

623
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 2: Now again, this is a This is as high leverage

624
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 2: as you get for Kyle McCord.

625
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 3: And and I'm curious.

626
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 2: He's played well over the second half of the season,

627
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 2: and you know everything's going to be on his shoulders.

628
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 2: I mean, FITZI, you look, it's all going to be

629
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 2: on the cord. Like I know you're gonna run the ball.

630
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,479
Speaker 2: But let's face it, it's good. They're not beating Michigan

631
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:15,959
Speaker 2: about him marrying it out.

632
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: No, not at all. But here's the thing. Like the

633
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: number that stands out to me to McCord is four.

634
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: That's a number of interceptions he's thrown this year. And

635
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: I think that's substantial because it speaks to somebody that

636
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: early on was being compared to absolutely. I mean, when

637
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: you're coming in and you're replacing CJ. Stroud and you're

638
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: replacing really a line of quarterbacks that have done well

639
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: the expectations were through the roof, and early on it

640
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: felt like no matter what he was doing in the season,

641
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: it wasn't enough. Right. But when you think about the

642
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: fact that he has four interceptions for the season, two

643
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: of those came in the Wisconsin game, Right, So the

644
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: rest of the year you're talking about playing clean football. Now,

645
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: what was the difference in that Wisconsin game. He also

646
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: got sacked more than he's used to getting sacked, So

647
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 1: there is this question like, Okay, if they get after him,

648
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 1: will he make mistakes? And that's what if you're if

649
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: you're a Michigan fan, that's what you're banking on. I'm

650
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: banking on he's learned through the process of this season.

651
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: He's only continued to develop in the Wisconsin game as

652
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: a bit of an aberration, right, So you know I'm

653
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,239
Speaker 1: banking on that being sort of the the reason that

654
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 1: those picks happened. Other than that, it's just it's pitching catch, right.

655
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: And this is something we saw last Last year's game

656
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 1: was defined by huge plays. If this year's team game

657
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 1: is defined at all by huge plays, again, I think

658
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Speaker 1: one team is way more capable of making big plays

659
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: in this and that's that's where it plays in like

660
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,959
Speaker 1: as big as home a deal, as home field advantages.

661
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: I s don't know that Ohio State isn't going to

662
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: go out and get a couple of long touchdowns early

663
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Speaker 1: in this game and shut that crowd up and then

664
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Speaker 1: they get all the momentum from it. So like, the

665
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 1: more the more we talk about this, the closer we

666
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Speaker 1: get to it, the more I feel like Ohio State

667
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: wins this game in a way that you know late

668
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: in the game, maybe you're a little nervous, but this

669
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Speaker 1: feels like a comfortable Ohio State went to me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and just imagine enough things opening up the way.

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00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: For saying that next week. But I am saying it now,

672
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: let's go.

673
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Speaker 5: But if it starts the way that you just described

674
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 5: there and all of a sudden, Ohio State before you

675
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 5: can blink us up, say fourteen to nothing, and Michigan's

676
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 5: in a spot they haven't been in this year, and

677
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 5: again the game is on the shoulders of JJ McCarthy.

678
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 5: I would not want to be Michigan in that situation.

679
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 5: And now that's a very very real occurrence that could happen.

680
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but let me also throw because we've talked about

681
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 2: the lack of talent on the on the Michigan schedule.

682
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 2: I mean, you look at the Ohio state schedule and yeah,

683
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 2: you got Notre Dame. But other than that, it's the

684
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 2: same schedule almost. I mean, you're not really there's not

685
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Speaker 2: a lot of like potent offenses that you have faced.

686
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Speaker 3: I mean, and I look at you know, even Notre Dame.

687
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Speaker 2: I mean you know, I mean Louisville put thirty three

688
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:56,719
Speaker 2: on Notre Dame, and you know they they you know

689
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Speaker 2: that the Notre game defense is it wasn't right.

690
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 1: No, You're you're right, Like I think you they are

691
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 1: fatal falls to where Notre Dame is, And I don't

692
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: know how to value I was actually having this conversation

693
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: with Michael Junior on Tuesday after the playoff rankings, Like

694
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: the committee still tells me that Notre Dame is sort

695
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: of like middle of the pack, top twenty five team,

696
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: don't I don't know based on what you know, Like

697
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: Notre Dame is a really hard team to judge. I

698
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 1: do think though, South Bend at night is not hard

699
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: to judge, right, And so in my mind, going into

700
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: South Bend at night, it better prepares somebody like McCord

701
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: to play at the Big House. Yeah, yeah, but yeah,

702
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: but I agree with you. I think, you know, certainly

703
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: you could make the argument that the rest of this

704
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: schedule there are a ton of comparables on it, Like

705
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: there's a lot of the Big Ten that just wasn't

706
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: very good this year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the big sense of conference is the whole is terrible.

708
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 5: I think them A great majority of their offenses a

709
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 5: ranked like one hundredth or worse.

710
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Speaker 1: Yeah, who had ever thought would be saying, thank God

711
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: the PAC twelve is coming over to the Big ten.

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Speaker 2: Decign now shag ten man, Yeah, shafe to be figure

713
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 2: while we got you to be favored trending.

714
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Speaker 5: All right, Well, since we're talking PAC twelve, we'll start

715
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 5: from a Friday night had a big one in the

716
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Speaker 5: PAC twelve. The last matchup in the PAC twelve between

717
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 5: Oregon and Oregon State, and the Ducks all over the

718
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 5: Beavers thirty one to seven, so they clinched themselves a

719
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Speaker 5: spot in the PAC twelve championship game against Washington next weekend.

720
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Speaker 5: Washington will face Washington State coming up later this afternoon

721
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Speaker 5: to try to keep their undefeated season alive. Texas a

722
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 5: fifty seven to seven victory over Texas Tech, four total

723
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Speaker 5: touchdowns for Dylan Gabriel in a sixty nine to forty

724
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Speaker 5: five Oklahoma win over TCU Iowa, a thirteen to ten

725
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 5: victory over Nebraska, Missouri all over Arkansas forty eight to fourteen,

726
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 5: Penn State shout out Michigan State forty two to nothing.

727
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 5: We did have one game on Black Friday from the NFL,

728
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 5: the Dolphins defeating the Jets thirty four to thirteen. Tyree

729
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 5: killer touchdown reception there. Friday night in the NBA, stef

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Speaker 5: Curry thirty five points, leading the Warriors over the Spurs

731
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Speaker 5: one eighteen to one twelve. San Antonio's lost eleven games

732
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Speaker 5: in a row. Pelicans have won three straight. They beat

733
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Speaker 5: the Clippers in LA one sixteen to one oh six.

734
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 5: Milwaukee over the Wizards one thirty one to one twenty eight,

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00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 5: a career high thirty nine points there for Brook Lopez.

736
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Speaker 5: The Knicks overcame a twenty one point deficit to beat

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00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 5: the Heat one hundred to ninety eight. You had victories

738
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Speaker 5: for the Pacers of Magic and Phoenix. They got forty

739
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,240
Speaker 5: points from Devin Booker and a victory over Memphis.

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Speaker 4: Back to the Fellas.

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Speaker 2: guys when it comes to Amazon. I there's something that

751
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Speaker 3: Uh Fitzy.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question because you're watching the

767
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 2: uh the Black Friday game.

768
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 3: I'm watching the game, It's just what is it? Why

769
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 3: is it not good? The broadcast?

770
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Speaker 2: And I'm trying to think because I love Herbstreet I'm

771
00:35:58,560 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 2: a huge rm Stree fan.

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00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 3: On the broadcast, I'm like, eh.

773
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 2: It feels like al who I always loved, is kind

774
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 2: of mail on today. The broadcast itself doesn't feel right.

775
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 2: I just don't know what is it.

776
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 1: I think there's a big game energy to the way

777
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: it's presented that it's kind of lacking. Alic's part of it,

778
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: like it's become sort of a joke. But the other

779
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: part of it is you're isolated. So this is just

780
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 1: a grand theory on the Amazon broadcast. Part of the

781
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 1: reason that they paid so much for my opinion, and

782
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: part of the reason that it wins for them in

783
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: my opinion, is that you're isolated. You have to open

784
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: up the app and you can't go anywhere. So because

785
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,919
Speaker 1: you can't go to Like if I'm watching on regular TV,

786
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 1: I just changed the channel during the commercials, I'm if

787
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: I'm bored right, Like if there's a portion of the

788
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: game that's like an extended review and I already think

789
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 1: I know what's going on, I can flip over, right.

790
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: If I'm in Amazon, I can't do that, so, like

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00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 1: I can't really touch my controller. I'm just sitting there

792
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: on the TV and I'm forced to be captive to

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00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: this war game that may or may not be interesting.

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00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: And we've seen so many bad games on Amazon that

795
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: we were captive to that. I just think there's a

796
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 1: collective sigh of like, Okay, this game's gonna be on Amazon,

797
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: and that's just what happens. So, you know, it lacks

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00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: some of the big game feel from the way it's produced,

799
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: on the way it's called. But I also think it's

800
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: just the inability to find other distraction from it just

801
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: makes it fall a little flat to me.

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00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and listen, I think it's a great theory, I

803
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 2: really do. It also feels like it's I don't know,

804
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm far away. I don't know, I

805
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 2: just kind of maybe that's just a production of it.

806
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 2: I don't feel like I'm close, like I'm inside, like

807
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 2: I watch a big Fox game or a big Monday

808
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 2: Night football, especially now that it's on the network, you know,

809
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 2: NBC Sunday Night Football. I feel like I'm like, I'm there,

810
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 2: I got front row seat. I don't feel that way

811
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 2: with the Amazon. I feel like I'm in the nosebleed.

812
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 2: It's like my it's kind of like playing tricks on me.

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Speaker 3: Figgie.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know if I necessarily I necessarily agree

815
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 5: with that part of it, but it just doesn't I

816
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 5: think the big But I think I agree with Fitzen

817
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 5: that the game is supposed to feel bigger than it

818
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 5: actually has been. A look, even going back to last season,

819
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 5: there were so many dog games. I mean, you know,

820
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 5: Kirk kurb Street and Al Michaels were kind of making

821
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Speaker 5: fun of the games as they were happening and talking

822
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Speaker 5: about how bad they were. And you know, Al Is.

823
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Speaker 5: I love Al. Al's a Hall of Famer, He's one

824
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 5: of the best of all time. But I mean, I

825
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 5: think it's safe to admit that maybe he's lost a

826
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Speaker 5: little bit off of his fastball, and he's realized, as

827
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Speaker 5: bad as these games have been, a lot of them

828
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,240
Speaker 5: are going to be on Thursday nights or short weeks,

829
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 5: and he's kind of resigned himself to the fact that

830
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 5: you know it's gonna.

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Speaker 4: Be kind of a bad broadcast.

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Speaker 5: I mean there was a game a couple of weeks

833
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 5: ago where he's basically, you know, begging that the guest

834
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Speaker 5: analysts to stay in the booth so they can start

835
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 5: saying they can talk more to him than talk about

836
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 5: the actual game that's happening on the field. Yeah, I mean,

837
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 5: that's that's kind of it's more product driven than anything else.

838
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 4: And I think that's part of the reason why this.

839
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Speaker 1: Is me being a broadcast this for a second, but

840
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: it drives me crazy. It's just we're in this new

841
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 1: modern era of two buddies in the booth, which is

842
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 1: really fun. It's what we love to do on radio.

843
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: But when I'm watching the game and I care about

844
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: the game, I just need the game to be the

845
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 1: focus so often, and like I'd say the same thing

846
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: about Nansen Romo, Like sometimes they're spending ten minutes talking

847
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,919
Speaker 1: about a golf story and I'm like, hey, yea, four

848
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: people just rotated off the field. Could you tell me,

849
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: like what just happened? So there is some element of Alice.

850
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,439
Speaker 1: Alice checked out on bad games, and you can feel

851
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 1: that palpably from him.

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00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, which, by the way, this is why I'm not

853
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 5: a huge fan of the Manning cast. I understand what

854
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 5: it is, and it's great for what it is. But

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00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 5: I watched the traditional broadcast because I just want.

856
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 4: To watch the game. I don't need the interviews and

857
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 4: all the other stuff in between.

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00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,280
Speaker 3: Dude, I've made a forecast.

859
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 1: If I don't care about the game, like if it's

860
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: not a like, if it's a bad game, then let

861
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 1: the Mannings entertain me. But if I actually want to

862
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: know what's going on in the game, you can't watch

863
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 1: that one.

864
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 2: Somebody just said to me about the Eagles Chiefs game

865
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Speaker 2: watching the manne Gain.

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Speaker 3: I love those two.

867
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Speaker 1: I do.

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Speaker 2: I love them, but I can't watch an Eagles Chiefs

869
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 2: game on the Manning cast.

870
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 3: Like that's that's crazy to me.

871
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 2: I was arguing with it was a buddy of mine

872
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 2: and he was all about it, and I just I

873
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Speaker 2: don't get it.

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Speaker 2: I will discuss some of that as well, fellas right

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Speaker 2: Obviously talking a lot of Ohio State and Michigan, the

893
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 2: great matchup that will decide a big in a big way.

894
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 2: As we're looking at the playoff situation, the playoff picture, and.

895
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 3: UH, this is a big one. This is a big one.

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00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 2: We cannot wait for uh today at the Big House.

897
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,320
Speaker 2: So let's let's think about it. Let's think about scenarios

898
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 2: and Uh, Fitziel ask you, Ohio State wins, does that

899
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 2: mean Michigan is completely out in your mind?

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00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Michigan's completely out because they don't have

901
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 1: anything else on the resume that's going to get them in, right.

902
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: And then also you have to look at the way

903
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 1: the committee's already told you what they think of the

904
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 1: one lost team. Like I say this every week on

905
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: the show, I will let go it again. I think today,

906
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: right now, Oregon is the top four team in the country.

907
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 1: So if there's a one loss team that's going to

908
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 1: go in, I think it's Oregon. But it gets complicated

909
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 1: when you start looking at the one loss teams because

910
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 1: Texas is going to turn around, presuming they win the

911
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 1: Big Twelve championship. Texas is going to turn around and say,

912
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 1: well we beat Alabama, right. So you know what gets

913
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: really interesting through all of this is what happens with

914
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: Florida State without their quarterback. So I think if Michigan loses,

915
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 1: Unfortunately for Michigan, there's just there's not enough on there

916
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 1: to get them ahead of the other one loss teams.

917
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 4: Fig I'm one hundred percent with you.

918
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 5: Michigan has a zero chance of making it with the

919
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 5: loss in Ohio State, I think has a minor chance.

920
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 5: But I think for the same reason they really don't either,

921
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 5: because outside of the Notre Dame victory, which we talked

922
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 5: about is solid decent but not spectacular, they don't have

923
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 5: much of a big leg to stand on on their

924
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 5: schedule either.

925
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 4: So I think Ohio State has a.

926
00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 5: Little bit of a better chance if they have a

927
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 5: loss to me to make it in but Michigan I

928
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 5: think has zero chance of making it if they lose

929
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 5: to Ohio State.

930
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 2: Well, you're right, and here's the problem with Michigan. You

931
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 2: would lose in home correct, and lose it in home

932
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 2: is you know. I mean, that would be devastating. That's

933
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 2: why they I mean, that's why I agree with you,

934
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 2: both of you guys. I just think that's how it

935
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 2: has to be.

936
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,839
Speaker 5: Hey, even Homer Road to be honest, just schedule wise

937
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 5: in general, what else do they have to lean on?

938
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 4: Well, it doesn't matter where they play for me.

939
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. The fl the flip side of this is that

940
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: the winner of this game, I think on Tuesday will

941
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: be the number one team in the country because it's

942
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,280
Speaker 1: going to be such a valuable win, they'll vault over Georgia.

943
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: But also because Georgia gets Alabama in the SEC championship game,

944
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 1: so they can flip it again right there, right, you know,

945
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 1: so I feel like in the world of the committee,

946
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: just letting things be easy. The winner of this game

947
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: is going to be the number one team on Tuesday.

948
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: The losers not even going to be in the playoff.

949
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: The loser is going to fall to seven ish, you know,

950
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,320
Speaker 1: so should take them out of the conversation entirely.

951
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, I h I look at this thing, and I go, man,

952
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 4: this is it.

953
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 3: This is a monster.

954
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 2: Hey, real quick, guys, which we were talking about the

955
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 2: uh you're fit.

956
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,479
Speaker 3: You brought up the buddy the buddy thing watching the game,

957
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 3: and you brought up Nance and Romo talking about the

958
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 3: golf story.

959
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

960
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 2: Did you see the hug attempt to start the game

961
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 2: on Thursday with.

962
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:27,800
Speaker 1: Romo?

963
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 3: It was the most awkward thing I've ever seen on television.

964
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 3: Did you see it?

965
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 1: I didn't see it. They did. They tried to hug

966
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: each other or yeah.

967
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 3: So it was the beginning, you know, welcome into the broadcast.

968
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 3: You know, it did the.

969
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 2: Booth and uh we were like, Romo is like, yeah,

970
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 2: you know, this is my friends.

971
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Speaker 3: Something about my friends.

972
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 2: He brought up, you know, the the hello friends, and

973
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 2: so Romo references it and then he goes to give

974
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 2: nance a hug and then she's like, stand there, you

975
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 2: don't know what to do, and Robo kind of hugs

976
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 2: him awkwardly.

977
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 4: It was it's.

978
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 3: Like a weird moment. Did you see a figure you

979
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:10,399
Speaker 3: were a busy work.

980
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 4: I did not see it?

981
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,399
Speaker 2: No, no, yeah, anybody shady? Do you anybody see it?

982
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:15,720
Speaker 2: The weird hug?

983
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:17,919
Speaker 6: I saw on Twitter, but I didn't see it live.

984
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 4: This was before kickoff. Yeah, they're doing their little yeah.

985
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, here's the thing, you know, like as a as

986
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 1: a like I'm a hugger. It's the first thing like

987
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: I am a hugger saying I'm a big hugger. Like so,

988
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 1: and the minute I know that the hugs gotten uncomfortable,

989
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,439
Speaker 1: I'm gonna lean it. Like if I go to hug

990
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: a cousin and it's uncomfortable, I'm now gonna pull him

991
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 1: in a little tighter, like I'm gonna hold him a

992
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,919
Speaker 1: little longer, and I might even go in the middle

993
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 1: of it like I'm gonna own that. It's it's just

994
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: an awkward hug, right, We're gonna make it a thing.

995
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: So that's what they needed to do. Like the minute

996
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: the hug goes as I look at it here on

997
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,240
Speaker 1: social media. The minute the hug starts to get awkward,

998
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: that's what you just. You go in forward harder, you

999
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 1: hug longer, and you make everybody even more uncomfortable.

1000
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 5: Or at least or maybe just pointed out somehow, so

1001
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 5: everybody we can all acknowledge that you know that it

1002
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 5: was awkward.

1003
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 4: We know that it was.

1004
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 5: Awkward, So it doesn't just kind of hang out there

1005
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 5: because that this makes it even worse.

1006
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was just funny.

1007
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 2: It was just weird, Like it was just one of

1008
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 2: those awkw we're like, I don't like Nance didn't expect it.

1009
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 5: Nance is one of those oh we're doing this right now, okay,

1010
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 5: all those sort of things.

1011
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,760
Speaker 2: You could see that NaNs isn't one of the fuzzy

1012
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 2: characters like no, like.

1013
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 3: He's that's not him.

1014
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 2: Like if it's like at John Madden, like he'd be

1015
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 2: all hugging you back, right, you know, but Nits isn't

1016
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 2: like the hugger type at least that that's the vibe.

1017
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 1: I yeah, yeah, which, by the way, getting fatal flawed

1018
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 1: of my personality is only going to make me want

1019
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 1: to hug him more. Like if I if I know

1020
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: he's not the hugging type. Now now I'm going all in, like,

1021
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 1: I am just going to make this a thing. So

1022
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: you know, just before Warren, gentlemen, like the hugs are coming.

1023
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 2: You know, you know it's great because I'm the same way.

1024
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:01,479
Speaker 2: I'm a hugger like you like, you know, I'm I'm

1025
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 2: way too handsy, you know, because I was.

1026
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 3: Like, oh, I do love you man grabbing you.

1027
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 2: Know that that's kind of bear hug I'm the same

1028
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 2: personality type as you do.

1029
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:19,839
Speaker 5: Fig you're not a hugger, uh, generally speaking, no, I'm

1030
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 5: also I'm I'm probably more of like a hip hop hugger,

1031
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 5: you know where we smash the one, you know, one

1032
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 5: of those sort of things.

1033
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 4: But it doesn't bother me if someone wants to come

1034
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 4: in for a hug.

1035
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 5: What makes it awkward is the one person goes for

1036
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 5: one thing and the other goes for another, and then

1037
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 5: you're all just kind of you're caught up in the

1038
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 5: middle of like this oh kind of things.

1039
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 4: If you come in with.

1040
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 5: The hall arms are all right, then I'm done no

1041
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,439
Speaker 5: awkwardness because I know what's coming.

1042
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 4: I'm not going to be like, oh, bro, no, we're

1043
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 4: not doing that. I'm not one of those.

1044
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 5: If you want to hug, hug, if you want to

1045
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 5: shake hands, you want to bump, bump fists.

1046
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 4: It works for me. I'm all good.

1047
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,760
Speaker 1: When I was backstage when I played with Gotti McCurry

1048
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 1: last week, you know, I toured with those guys for years.

1049
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: They were on the same tour as us. And the

1050
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 1: funny thing is when Scotty came in, I just walked

1051
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,240
Speaker 1: up and gave him this long hug and I probably

1052
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,320
Speaker 1: hugged him for a solid minute minute and a half.

1053
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 1: And while he was standing there being hugged, he just

1054
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 1: said to the whole room of people looking at us,

1055
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, I don't think I missed this part

1056
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 1: of our friendship, you know, Like that's just you know,

1057
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 1: Scotty didn't want to hug, so I made sure I

1058
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 1: held him there.

1059
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 6: It was good, real quick, real quick. What's worse, Guys,

1060
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 6: when you're giving a handshake and the guy gives you

1061
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 6: a handshake way too hard and like you're super loose

1062
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 6: so you cannot match it at all, or an awkward hug.

1063
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: The hard handshake, like the hard handshakes, Like what are

1064
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:38,839
Speaker 1: you trying?

1065
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 3: I don't mind the hard handshake.

1066
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 2: I don't I mind the weird dead fish hand.

1067
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, the flimsy handshake.

1068
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,760
Speaker 6: But sometimes when you go in for like a handshake

1069
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 6: and the guy comes in too hard, like way too fast.

1070
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 5: Jim Schwartz thing going on, all those exactly exactly, like what.

1071
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,839
Speaker 1: Is this person? What are we asserting our domination here

1072
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: in the handshake? Like you don't need to hand off,

1073
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 1: Like there's none of this.

1074
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 3: I got that.

1075
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: We just do you know, you dab it up like

1076
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 1: your dab slapped done. That's it, Like there doesn't need

1077
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: to be any Like I think handshakes are going to

1078
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 1: be gone from the entire society in the next ten years. Anyway,

1079
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: kids aren't out there shaking hands.

1080
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 3: Oh my god. Somebody else said that to me.

1081
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 4: I was like during COVID Yeah, like cod.

1082
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 6: It was like just like fiz bump.

1083
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, well so you're anti shake.

1084
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 1: I'm not anti shake. I just like there's too many

1085
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 1: inconsistencies I can't tell, like are you gonna are you

1086
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: gonna shake cards? You're gonna shake loose? Is it dead fish?

1087
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 1: Is it quick shake?

1088
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 3: Is it long? She never did fish?

1089
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, well you should never did fish. But the other

1090
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 1: person might dead fish, and then all of a sudden

1091
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 1: I got dead fish on my hand.

1092
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 6: Like that just I never purposely dead fish, though it's

1093
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 6: like an accident dead fish. It's like they went too hard.

1094
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 6: And then now I'm just sitting here like awkwardly. My

1095
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 6: hands are like squeeze together and I can't even move

1096
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 6: like I never dead fish on purpose? Do you dead

1097
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 6: fish on purpose?

1098
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: No? No, no, but but you're right, like sometimes it's

1099
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 1: just the angle, like they're coming in and all of

1100
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 1: a sudden you've been compromised as a dead fish handshaker,

1101
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: and now you inevitably what do you do? Then you

1102
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 1: look at the guy and you're like, hey, let's try

1103
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 1: that again. That wasn't right, and now you're gonna get

1104
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:20,800
Speaker 1: double squeezed. I don't want to double squeak exactly.

1105
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 6: And you know he's looking down on you immediately. He's like,

1106
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 6: hey man.

1107
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 4: Look that's not a reflection of me. All right, we

1108
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 4: got to do this over again.

1109
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would look down on you. You give me

1110
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 3: the dead fish. I am sorry why it bothers me.

1111
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 2: The two things that bothered me is if a dude

1112
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 2: can't throw a ball, I don't know why it bothers me.

1113
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,879
Speaker 3: Well, I'm like, dude, come on, man, throw the ball.

1114
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:48,280
Speaker 2: You got to learn how to throw, like everybody should

1115
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:49,320
Speaker 2: know how to throw.

1116
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 6: Like a baseball or like a baseball. Right, Oh, throw

1117
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 6: a duck. I'm not gonna lie what's that I throw

1118
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 6: a duck with the football. I'm not gonna lie well

1119
00:50:57,880 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 6: about asking.

1120
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 3: You to be you know, my homes and give you

1121
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 3: a look called spiral. But I just want you just don't.

1122
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 2: Don't look like you SPADs out when you throw it back,

1123
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 2: Like if you're sitting down you got a ball in

1124
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 2: your hand, I go.

1125
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 3: Like, give me a ball, give me the ball, like.

1126
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 1: You gotta societally, you got to know how to get

1127
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 1: a ball back to somebody. You don't have to do

1128
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 1: it pretty, but you gotta do it. Yeah, you can

1129
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 1: throw duck. That's that's like I got tiny baby hands,

1130
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 1: and I mean like tiny baby like I can't. I

1131
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 1: can barely palm my kids basketball. That's how small my

1132
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 1: hands are. So like throwing a football is a perfect

1133
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 1: spiral forty yards downfield is never gonna happen unless it

1134
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 1: was a tiny ner football. I accept that, but also

1135
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 1: like you like if if cousins across the room and says, hey,

1136
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 1: throw me the ball, like I can get it there confidently,

1137
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 1: Like that is just see like there we go. Like

1138
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 1: it may not look pretty for you know, compared to

1139
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 1: Dan Marino, but tiny baby hands, what can I do?

1140
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: You just got to own that be able to I'm

1141
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: with you on this one, like societally, you got to

1142
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 1: be able to just like get a ball back across

1143
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 1: the room.

1144
00:51:58,440 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 3: What's wrong with that?

1145
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,359
Speaker 2: And you like if it's a baseboard whatever it is,

1146
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 2: just you know, don't spazze out when you throw it?

1147
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 3: S Watson, dude, Oh yeah, yeah yeah.

1148
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 6: I couldn't throw my fifteen yards man. It was pissing

1149
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 6: me off.

1150
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, he has an excuse for it, Yeah definitely.

1151
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 6: But still he's putting his whole body, has half a

1152
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:23,760
Speaker 6: shoulder going.

1153
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 1: Broker, yeah, brokers, Like I get a hangnail. And I'm

1154
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: like Peter Griffin. After just laying there so over and

1155
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 1: over and over again and over here, I'm looking at

1156
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 1: Watson and I'm like, come on, tough enough, brow see

1157
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: the problem with me?

1158
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 5: What the baseball was? I'm better at it now. When

1159
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 5: I was younger, I could throw it. I just didn't

1160
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 5: know where the hell I was throwing it to.

1161
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 2: That's a great that's a great team to look the window.

1162
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's great.

1163
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 5: That I can get it so I can throw some

1164
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 5: with some distance that just don't don't. I can't tell

1165
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:03,760
Speaker 5: you where it's going though, So heads u uh no, yeah, what's.

1166
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,399
Speaker 6: What's your guys? Most memorable first pitch?

1167
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 1: Are you guys?

1168
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:09,720
Speaker 4: Ever thrown a first pitch by the way.

1169
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 1: Through the yard Hartford Hartford yard coach? That's see, because

1170
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 1: does the Phillies. I do the yard Goats, that's it.

1171
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 3: I like it.

1172
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 1: I think they were the steam and cheeseburgers. The day

1173
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 1: I did it in Hartford delight, Like the Hartford yard

1174
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 1: Goats Stadium is a delight and I I like believe me,

1175
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 1: I I ate and drank my way through that day

1176
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: was delight. But yeah, they actually wouldn't let me stand

1177
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 1: on the mound. That was one thing that was like.

1178
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 5: I was gonna ask that question whether you were a

1179
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 5: mound or you still be still on the dirt or

1180
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 5: you still on like so what choice?

1181
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: I had no choice. They told me I had to

1182
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,799
Speaker 1: stand on the dirt in front of the mound. I

1183
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 1: literally had no choice.

1184
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 6: You guys did a good job.

1185
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 1: I'm guessing right, yeah, But let me get while we're

1186
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 1: honest here. You know, I actually went to a park

1187
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 1: with a buddy for like a week and practiced that

1188
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:58,399
Speaker 1: thing from the like I was. There was no chance.

1189
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:00,800
Speaker 1: I was not taking a chance that I did anything stupid.

1190
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 1: By the time I threw that pitch of that game,

1191
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 1: I'd probably thrown two hundred first pitches in the last

1192
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 1: week just getting ready. My arm was ready to fall

1193
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 1: off for days afterwards. But I was not going to

1194
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 1: take any chances.

1195
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 4: I love it.

1196
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I did the same thing.

1197
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, listen, I'm throwing a lot because

1198
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 2: the kids and stuff like it, whatever it was. But

1199
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:25,399
Speaker 2: I actually went to the mail I've practiced now way,

1200
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 2: no way I was going to There's no way I

1201
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 2: was going to flop it.

1202
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 4: Thousands of people.

1203
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 1: But here's so here's the funny, stupid thing about my

1204
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 1: personality and what I'm comfortable with. I practiced that that

1205
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 1: first pitch for you know, for ages, like getting ready

1206
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 1: for that. I have been lucky enough to play the

1207
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 1: national anthem on the violin several times at major sporting events,

1208
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 1: including the Raiders, and like I never practiced like I

1209
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 1: just walk in and I'm like, all right, unpack it.

1210
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 1: Here we go play like that. I'm comfortable with throw

1211
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:58,359
Speaker 1: the ball off like you know, there's no The first

1212
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 1: time I played the oh yeah no. So not even

1213
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 1: a humble practice is a practic. But the first time

1214
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,799
Speaker 1: I played the anthem for the Raiders, I remember they

1215
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 1: were doing a flyover, so I had to be an

1216
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 1: exact amount of time. So the flyovers right, and the

1217
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:11,799
Speaker 1: girl that was standing right in front of me, the lady,

1218
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 1: she was super nice, like right on the sideline. I

1219
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 1: got the Raiders righting, my favorite team, right in front

1220
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: of me. I'm about to play the anthem. And she

1221
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 1: was so nervous about the flyover that she was shaking,

1222
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 1: and I just leaned over to her. I was like, hey,

1223
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: I got this. It's gonna be just fine. And I

1224
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 1: thought about it afterwards. I was like, man, I was

1225
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 1: about to play in front of, you know, fifty thousand

1226
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 1: people for my favorite football team. I was comforting her.

1227
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 1: I was like, it's gonna be just fine. Well, I

1228
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,879
Speaker 1: turned her out and played the anthem. What do we doing?

1229
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 1: But then you.

1230
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 3: That's a ball and move No, but.

1231
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 1: You asked me to throw out the first pitch, and

1232
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 1: I'm calling friends and I'm like, hey, I need to

1233
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 1: meet me at the park. I gotta practice this. I can't.

1234
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 1: I can't be fitty set like yeah.

1235
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 5: But you know, also when you're comfort zone to a

1236
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:54,720
Speaker 5: certain degree, secle you play.

1237
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 2: All the time you were if you were pitching in

1238
00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 2: the men's league, you know, and you were used to

1239
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 2: three four times a week, You're not gonna You're not

1240
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 2: gonna feel it like you know whatever. You're a man,

1241
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 2: by the way, like to be able to go and

1242
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 2: do that is just an amazing gift. To be able

1243
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 2: to hit the anthem.

1244
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 1: That's incredible, really is I'm an anthem snob. We'll get

1245
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 1: into that. A is around the super Bowl though, Like

1246
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 1: you know, minute and a half doesn't need to if

1247
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:24,359
Speaker 1: it's if it's longer than a minute and a half,

1248
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 1: do you made it about you, not about the song,

1249
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 1: and it doesn't need like you just don't need to

1250
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 1: do all the acrobatics. Just get in there. Do the

1251
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:31,879
Speaker 1: anthem make everybody feel?

1252
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:36,320
Speaker 3: So I agree with I think, I think, yeah, I

1253
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 3: feel you on that. Man.

1254
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 2: I do best anthem ever was the mo cheek Save

1255
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 2: you Save that.

1256
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 3: Little Girl was the greatest.

1257
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 4: Oh, I was gonna say Carl Lewis, but yeah, whatever.

1258
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 1: Whitney Whitney super Bowl. I don't care if it was

1259
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 1: a lip syncter or not. Was was epic. But you

1260
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 1: know what, Chris Tapleton to see Super Bowl, Man, Chris Tapleton.

1261
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 1: Have me in my feels like Chris was good too.

1262
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 6: Do you guys see the flavor Flave that's unfortunately yes,

1263
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:02,919
Speaker 6: Carl Lewis was a joke.

1264
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 4: By the way, I don't think that was a good

1265
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 4: anthem somebody's head, but.

1266
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 1: I did appreciate Flavorflay being like, you know what, I

1267
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 1: don't care what anybody thinks. I've always wanted to do

1268
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 1: this and I'm not gonna let anybody take that from me.

1269
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 1: And I was like, hey, good for you for not

1270
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 1: realizing that you are talentless when it comes to that, Like,

1271
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 1: good for you.

1272
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 6: He's successful, man, It's all matters.

1273
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, people, I know if it's that you

1274
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 5: don't white people putting extras on the national anthem, But

1275
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 5: I do think I know Marvin Gaye did it at

1276
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 5: the r Star game and game Okay, mart I thought

1277
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 5: that was.

1278
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 1: Marvion gay can do whatever the hell he wanted Marvin

1279
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 1: gay Like, there's certain people like if Stevie Wonder walks

1280
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 1: in and says, ladies and gentlemen, I'm going to play

1281
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: the anthem for the next seventeen minutes, I am. I

1282
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 1: am captive, and I'm like, yes, sir, please, sir, may

1283
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 1: I have another Marvin gay up like that that anthem

1284
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 1: from the NBA all started. Oh man, that was that

1285
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 1: chef's kiss you You got to have like a certain

1286
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 1: level of just bad assery to even attempt it and

1287
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 1: then to pull that off.

1288
00:57:56,320 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 2: Oh that's yeah. I mean there's certain people will of

1289
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 2: the boo type of things. They're above it, and they

1290
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 2: you know, Marvin Gaye's above it, you know. All right,

1291
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 2: let's say quick time out. We got Ohio State Michigan.

1292
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 2: Let's go over the playoff picture, and let's do a

1293
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 2: playoff picture for both college football and we'll get take

1294
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 2: a look at the snapshot in the NFL and what

1295
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 2: Thursday's game meant for the playoff picture. So we'll get

1296
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 2: into the playoff pictures both coming up next.

1297
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 3: Where the fella is right here on Fox Sport.

1298
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 11: Ladies and gentlemen, Jason fits play ball.

1299
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 3: That was fabulous.

1300
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 2: I mean that's a that's an A plus plus. I

1301
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:00,959
Speaker 2: mean that would it was incredible?

1302
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:05,479
Speaker 5: How mat a fig amazing, absolutely amazing. That's so cool.

1303
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:07,680
Speaker 5: Must be a cool Is that adrenaline rush for you

1304
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 5: or is it just small potatoes?

1305
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1306
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 4: I played play the national anthem roll out here all good?

1307
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 1: Uh no, No, I'm such a sports fan, like I

1308
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 1: just want to get up to the seats whatever I'm

1309
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 1: doing afterwards. So, like, I've played it several times at

1310
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 1: different places, but I'll never forget the first time I

1311
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 1: played it for the Raiders. They had a like a

1312
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 1: humble brag, but they had a suite for me in Oakland.

1313
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 1: Not that those suites were all those sweet, but it

1314
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 1: was great. Like somebody took me up to the suite

1315
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 1: and as I was walking through, John Madden was in

1316
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 1: the suite next to me and he looked over and

1317
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 1: he's like, man, that was one of the best anthems

1318
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 1: I've ever heard. And I was like, oh my god, John,

1319
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 1: very you know for me, that was very And Bolitanikoff

1320
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 1: was in the suite on the other side and his

1321
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 1: wife came over and was super kind in that moment too,

1322
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 1: So yeah, it was cool. In that in that moment

1323
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 1: to you know, see legends that meant so much to

1324
01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 1: me as a fan and have them come up, like

1325
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 1: Derek Carr when I finished, came up at the time

1326
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 1: it was his rookie year, gave me a bro hug.

1327
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 1: It was like, dude, that was awesome. And I was like,

1328
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 1: oh my god, you know, wheen of your favorite team's

1329
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:09,959
Speaker 1: quarterback actually like recognized it. It was a cool moment

1330
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 1: for me.

1331
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Yeah, that's awesome. Are you kidding me?

1332
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 6: The one you guys just heard was from Nashville.

1333
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 1: Sc ah that one okay, Yeah, that was the stadium

1334
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 1: opening for the new soccer stadium in Nashville. That was

1335
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 1: a nice very nice of them too invite me. Yeah,

1336
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 1: this is a fun fact, by the way, that people

1337
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 1: forget they didn't used to televise the anthem at all.

1338
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 1: So when I did it for the Raiders, I went

1339
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 1: back to him later and I was like, hey, can

1340
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 1: I get the TV broadcast of that from like the

1341
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 1: local TV broadcast? And everybody sort of laughed, like we

1342
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 1: forget pre controversy around the anthem that the anthem didn't

1343
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 1: even used to be remotely televised on the local for

1344
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 1: like for normal regular season games, it was never a

1345
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 1: big deal. They never showed it, so you know when yeah,

1346
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 1: by the way, yeah yeah, I mean I think what frankly,

1347
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 1: every sporting event that we watch on TV, save me

1348
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 1: the you know, save me the commercial and give me

1349
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 1: a minute and a half. Let me see who's doing

1350
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 1: the anthem that day.

1351
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 2: Like it's only because I mean, it's just respect for

1352
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 2: forget about you know, anything political or whatever. Respect for

1353
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 2: our country together and our country. We should they should

1354
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 2: televise it.

1355
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 1: I think it's one of the coolest like camaraderie, brotherhood

1356
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 1: moments in a stadium or even in a like if

1357
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:33,240
Speaker 1: you're in a bar before the super Bowl and they're

1358
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 1: playing the super Bowl or they're playing the anthem, everybody

1359
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 1: shuts up and listens to it for that minute and

1360
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 1: like the whole room feels like they're together. There's a

1361
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 1: very cool like I've long thought that college football they

1362
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 1: should let the marching bands play the anthem, and they should.

1363
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 1: You know, the best an band in the land should

1364
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 1: go out there and give us the anthem today or

1365
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:52,760
Speaker 1: you know, I know Michigan wouldn't love that, but you

1366
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 1: know what, I'm saying, like the marching bands for the

1367
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 1: respective schools getting out there and doing it. I think

1368
01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 1: that stuff is really cool. It's a cool way for

1369
01:02:58,720 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 1: people to have that memory.

1370
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 2: I love it. It really is anyway. I mean, just

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01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 2: beautiful stuff. Beautiful stuff. Piggy, you want to hit us

1372
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:10,439
Speaker 2: with some driving.

1373
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 5: Sure, absolutely, Well let's start with some college football. From

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01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 5: Friday night six drinth Oregon dominating Oregon State thirty one

1375
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 5: to seven, advancing to the Pac twelve A Championship game,

1376
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 5: and next weekend Texas headed to the Big twelve title Game.

1377
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 5: They moleywop Texas Tech fifty seven to seven, Penn State

1378
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 5: to shoutout victory over Michigan State forty two to nothing.

1379
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 5: You also had victories for Iowa, Oklahoma, and Missouri in

1380
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 5: the lone NFL game, Dolphins dominating the Jets thirty four

1381
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 5: to thirteen. Tyreek Hill nine receptions FO one hundred and

1382
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 5: two yards and a touchdown reception. The Dolphins did lose

1383
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 5: linebacker Jalen Phillips to an achilles injury. Earlier on Friday,

1384
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:47,919
Speaker 5: the Commanders fire defensive coordinator Jack del Rio and the NBA.

1385
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 5: Step Curry scored thirty five points, leading the Warriors over

1386
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 5: the Spurs one to eighteen two one twelve. Pelicans have

1387
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:55,160
Speaker 5: won three games in a row. They beat the Clippers

1388
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:57,920
Speaker 5: by ten in Los Angeles. You also had victories for

1389
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 5: the Rockets, Pacers, Sons, and Acremento.

1390
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:04,080
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Speaker 2: let's take a look, guys at the college football playoff situation.

1396
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 2: Obviously one spot will be determined today and it's going

1397
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 2: to be an amazing day in an arbor, Michigan, Ohio State.

1398
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:40,520
Speaker 2: Right off the bat, Fitzie, Figgie both on the Buckeys.

1399
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 2: I'm just straddling, man, I got no read. Sometimes you

1400
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 2: just don't have a read on the game. I'd still

1401
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:51,160
Speaker 2: like I'm searching for it. So that's kind of where

1402
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 2: we're where we're standing here. But let's look elsewhere. Because

1403
01:04:54,840 --> 01:05:00,160
Speaker 2: Figgy brought up the pac twelve and it's Oregon washing

1404
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:03,000
Speaker 2: and this will be the rematch. This is going to

1405
01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 2: be incredible when you look at it. One spot will

1406
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:12,760
Speaker 2: come from this game that will take place next Friday FITSI,

1407
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 2: by the.

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01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:16,800
Speaker 1: Way, like Washington can just shut me up with the

1409
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 1: convincing win over Oregon, just a win over Oregon, Washington

1410
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 1: can shut me up because, by the way, in every

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01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:24,960
Speaker 1: major metric that the Committee is told to consider, strength

1412
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 1: to record, gain control, strength to schedule, Washington is above

1413
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:32,640
Speaker 1: all of these teams that we're talking about. Right, So

1414
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 1: Washington has done everything that they need to analytics wise,

1415
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 1: resume wise. And if the argument was that they need

1416
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:40,960
Speaker 1: to play more complete football, well I think they did

1417
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 1: that last week against Oregon State. I think they'll do

1418
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 1: that in the Apple Cup today. So then that gives

1419
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 1: us the Pac twelve Championship game the opportunity. So look,

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Speaker 1: the winner of this game, in my mind, without question,

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01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 1: is absolutely going to the playoff, the winner of the

1422
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 1: PAT twelve Championship, whether it's a one loss Oregon who

1423
01:05:57,560 --> 01:06:00,360
Speaker 1: avenges their only loss of the season. The Committee always

1424
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:03,440
Speaker 1: loves that. Historically, the avenge their only loss to Washington.

1425
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 1: And they've got who I think should be the Heisman

1426
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 1: Trophy favorite to this point in bo Knicks. So you've

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01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 1: got that, or you've got Washington going out and winning,

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01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:14,480
Speaker 1: and then by that point, I mean, my god, their

1429
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:17,520
Speaker 1: resume is untouchable. So Washington ends up either way, the

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01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:19,320
Speaker 1: PAC twelve is a lock in my mind for the

1431
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 1: college football playerf no matter what.

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01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:22,800
Speaker 5: The only way it's not a lock if is if

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01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 5: by some way, Washington State upsets Washington today and then

1434
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:28,919
Speaker 5: Washington beats Oregon and then you have a two loss

1435
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:31,120
Speaker 5: Pack twelve champion. I don't I think that that that's

1436
01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:32,600
Speaker 5: really the only way that that happens.

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01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:36,120
Speaker 1: You're right, I'm I'm presuming the Apple Cup goes as

1438
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 1: we expect today, right then they're a lock. That's a

1439
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 1: fair way to say that.

1440
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, agreed, agreed.

1441
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:44,919
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the the Basically, we wait

1442
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 2: a week until next Saturday, when it is the SEC

1443
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 2: championship game, and this will be the game of all games.

1444
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 2: Georgia and Alabama will be in the other spot. Now,

1445
01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 2: obviously Bama somehow wins the one, laws Georgia would still

1446
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 2: have to be in.

1447
01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 1: It, FITZI, I don't think so. Yeah, I think.

1448
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 3: I would vote for Georgie.

1449
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:14,880
Speaker 2: I mean, Florida State could beat Louisville, and I'd still

1450
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:18,560
Speaker 2: vote give me, give me Georgia.

1451
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 1: I gotta be honest here. If Georgia loses this game,

1452
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 1: and so we got this scenario where the winner of

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01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:30,160
Speaker 1: the game Ohio State Michigan is undefeated. Therein, You've got

1454
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 1: let's say Washington undefeated therein, and then you've got Florida

1455
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 1: State undefeated with the ACC therein. That leaves one spot left.

1456
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 1: And here's where things get tricky. If Alabama beats Georgia,

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01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:44,600
Speaker 1: then by head to head, Alabama should have the right

1458
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:48,640
Speaker 1: to the playoff. But Texas already beat Alabama. In this situation,

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01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:52,040
Speaker 1: I honestly think Texas from the Big Twelve with the

1460
01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:55,000
Speaker 1: Big Twelve championship makes the playoff and there is no

1461
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Speaker 1: SEC representative. And I know that feels shocking all the

1462
01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 1: way to its core, but yeah, I can't. By the

1463
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 1: way the committee does everything. If Alabama wins the SEC,

1464
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:07,160
Speaker 1: they they're one loss being a head to head lost

1465
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 1: to Texas. I don't know how you put You can't

1466
01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:12,440
Speaker 1: put Georgia and not put Alabama in. You can't put

1467
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:14,720
Speaker 1: Alabama in and not put Texas in. And there aren't

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01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:15,560
Speaker 1: that many spots.

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01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:18,679
Speaker 4: I agree, one with that notion.

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01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 3: By the way, yeah, I don't.

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01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:21,639
Speaker 4: Of course you don't.

1472
01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:24,559
Speaker 1: It feels weird to say that.

1473
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:28,160
Speaker 4: You're right to have not in that large SEC team

1474
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:29,920
Speaker 4: because it.

1475
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:34,839
Speaker 2: Offends my sensibilities because I could, I know what seems better, Like,

1476
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:38,720
Speaker 2: like what because Texas won early in the season.

1477
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:42,400
Speaker 4: It's still happen the poor mill Row developed.

1478
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:44,240
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just not fair.

1479
01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 1: That's not fair.

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01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:46,599
Speaker 4: It happened. They played it on the field.

1481
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:48,639
Speaker 3: I know, in my mind, I don't care. What doesn't

1482
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 3: matter my mind.

1483
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:53,160
Speaker 4: You'll be thinking that matters is what happened on the field.

1484
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:58,400
Speaker 2: But again, when matters we fight about this all the time,

1485
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:01,640
Speaker 2: Fitzy figuring out, fight about this stuff. And he's a

1486
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:04,759
Speaker 2: hater of the SEC. So I'm just being realistic.

1487
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:08,360
Speaker 3: You're a You've always been a hater. You always hated.

1488
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:10,439
Speaker 4: I know, I just don't kiss the SEC's ass, that's all.

1489
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:12,919
Speaker 2: Like now you hate him do And it's again, it's

1490
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:14,719
Speaker 2: it's September ninth.

1491
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 3: What happens. Teams change and they evolve.

1492
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:23,960
Speaker 2: Sure the snapshot of what a team is like now

1493
01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:27,880
Speaker 2: as opposed to freaking September it's define And to ask

1494
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:31,599
Speaker 2: me that you're gonna tell me, Texas is better than Georgia.

1495
01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:36,519
Speaker 1: Come, here's here's the no. But I'm gonna tell you

1496
01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:39,280
Speaker 1: that the committee right now thinks Texas is better than Alabama.

1497
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 1: They're ranked ahead of them. So if we're talking about

1498
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 1: Georgia losing the SEC championship game to Alabama, then this

1499
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:51,520
Speaker 1: isn't a Georgia conversation. It's Obama conversation. Like if Alabama

1500
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 1: beats Georgia, Georgia can't go into the playoff above Alabama.

1501
01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:58,760
Speaker 1: How can Alabama go into the playoff above Texas when

1502
01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:02,639
Speaker 1: Texas beat them? Like that's I listened.

1503
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:05,559
Speaker 2: I understand the argument. I mean, you know, figuring I've

1504
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:08,280
Speaker 2: been arguing this forever and see what we forget it.

1505
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:11,760
Speaker 2: But I don't believe in my mind when I look

1506
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:14,639
Speaker 2: at my I look at these teams, that Texas would

1507
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:15,559
Speaker 2: be better than Georgia.

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01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 3: That's all.

1509
01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:18,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, And of like, if we didn't have a head

1510
01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:21,320
Speaker 5: to head component in here with Texas and Alabama and

1511
01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:24,479
Speaker 5: it was just arbitrary this schedule versus that schedule. But

1512
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:26,920
Speaker 5: when the game has actually been played on the field,

1513
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 5: that's your trump. Everything regardless of when the game was played,

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01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:32,639
Speaker 5: unless there was a major injury and a key player

1515
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 5: didn't play, which wasn't the case. We can argue that

1516
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 5: Mirror wasn't the same player, but he was on the

1517
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:38,360
Speaker 5: field that happened.

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01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:43,880
Speaker 1: And what do we do with Alabama? Because in your equation, like,

1519
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 1: are you saying Alabama winds the SEC they're in and

1520
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 1: you you would still put Georgia in or like this

1521
01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:53,559
Speaker 1: isn't it's not really about Texas versus Georgia.

1522
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:57,880
Speaker 3: It's because Alabama wins the SEC they're in.

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01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:01,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just don't think so. I think it depends

1524
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:03,839
Speaker 1: on what happens ahead of them. Because right now today,

1525
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 1: again going back to all of the analytics, you know,

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01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:10,519
Speaker 1: I love strength the record, Texas is just barely ahead

1527
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:14,559
Speaker 1: of Alabama. Strength to schedule, Texas is ahead of Alabama

1528
01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:18,719
Speaker 1: pretty substantially. Before the Georgia game. Obviously game control, Texas

1529
01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:22,800
Speaker 1: is ahead of Alabama, and Texas beat Alabama. So I

1530
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:26,000
Speaker 1: don't think it's that. And frankly, right now, the committee's

1531
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 1: telling you that Oregon's better also, so like they're telling

1532
01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:32,599
Speaker 1: you that Alabama is the third best of the one

1533
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:36,040
Speaker 1: loss team, So just beating Georgia won't change that because

1534
01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:38,440
Speaker 1: they'd have a win over Georgia. But in this scenario,

1535
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:42,200
Speaker 1: either Washington's undefeated or Oregon has turned around and beaten Washington,

1536
01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:43,800
Speaker 1: which is also a substantial win.

1537
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:47,280
Speaker 2: So like that, I think Oregon beats Washington. I think

1538
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 2: Oregon beats Washington. I mean, and I'm not kissing the

1539
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:55,720
Speaker 2: SEC's ass, but look, look at that. And I'm a

1540
01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:59,519
Speaker 2: Texas and I was the one arguing for Texas well year.

1541
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 3: Look thought they were a good team.

1542
01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:06,519
Speaker 2: We've argued about Texas, but I look at these teams.

1543
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:10,560
Speaker 2: I just think I'm so impressed with the way Milroe

1544
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:13,840
Speaker 2: has evolved as a quarterback. So I look at who

1545
01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:18,280
Speaker 2: are the best teams now? And maybe that's my fatal flaw, but.

1546
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:20,200
Speaker 5: Listen, probably me thinks it's a mood point because I

1547
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:21,639
Speaker 5: don't think Alabama's being Georgia.

1548
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:23,760
Speaker 4: I'll say that I don't either.

1549
01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 2: That's happened, but we're at you know, it's part of

1550
01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:28,520
Speaker 2: the conversation, right sure.

1551
01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:30,760
Speaker 1: I think the hardest part of this playoff conversation is

1552
01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:33,320
Speaker 1: what to do with Florida State, correct, because they don't

1553
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:35,879
Speaker 1: have their starting quarterback. And yeah, I mean.

1554
01:12:35,880 --> 01:12:39,080
Speaker 2: They're out in my mind. I mean, I hate to say.

1555
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:39,120
Speaker 3: It, so.

1556
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:46,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, An unbeaten Power five champion, conference champion out of

1557
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:46,799
Speaker 5: the playoff.

1558
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:49,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just look at them and go, well again,

1559
01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 2: so Hive Center, Michigan, m Georgia. Like, if Oregon avenges

1560
01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:03,160
Speaker 2: the loss, I just think Oregon is better than Florida

1561
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 2: State and would deserve to be in it, would deserve

1562
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:07,920
Speaker 2: to be there.

1563
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:10,960
Speaker 5: I don't disagree with that, but that's that's just that's

1564
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 5: a hard sell and I'm just giving it by twelve.

1565
01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:16,000
Speaker 4: And by the way, I'm mister Pax twelve over here.

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01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:18,559
Speaker 5: I'm sitting here telling you right now, Oregon with one loss,

1567
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:20,400
Speaker 5: if it came down to Oregon versus Florida State and

1568
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:22,760
Speaker 5: Florida State's undefeated Florida State has.

1569
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:23,719
Speaker 4: To make it in over Oregon.

1570
01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:28,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I mean I can't put it because

1571
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:32,200
Speaker 2: I look at these teams and I can't take my

1572
01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:33,960
Speaker 2: eyes out of the equation.

1573
01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:35,680
Speaker 3: And maybe that's the problem, and I.

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01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:36,400
Speaker 4: Mean it shouldn't be.

1575
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 5: And based on you you talk about all these metrics

1576
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:41,679
Speaker 5: and all that, but they say they value conference champions

1577
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:44,880
Speaker 5: and they value overall records. Well, if that's the case,

1578
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:47,759
Speaker 5: you can't value have more value over an undefeated Power

1579
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:51,360
Speaker 5: five conference champion and Trump's.

1580
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 1: Or anything they are told factor and who's available for

1581
01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:57,000
Speaker 1: a game and who's not. Like Bowers being out was

1582
01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 1: supposed to be a reason that Georgia was slided in

1583
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:02,479
Speaker 1: the rankings and not number one because I don't know

1584
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 1: without Brock. So now we're saying I don't know without

1585
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:08,240
Speaker 1: our starting quarterback, Like that's just That's why I'm This

1586
01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:09,760
Speaker 1: is where it's difficult, and I'm glad I'm not on

1587
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:11,920
Speaker 1: the committee because I would have a hard time. I mean,

1588
01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:15,040
Speaker 1: if you ask me on a neutral field, Oregon would

1589
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:19,000
Speaker 1: absolutely crush Florida State right now. So yeah, hard time.

1590
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:20,800
Speaker 2: And I look at that schedule where I go, that

1591
01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 2: schedule shocks.

1592
01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:24,320
Speaker 3: And Oregon forge blows.

1593
01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:27,519
Speaker 5: They basically any Oregon in Washington had murderer's role compared

1594
01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:30,360
Speaker 5: to any other team in the entire country exactly.

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Speaker 3: I fellas.

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Speaker 2: So in this, in this whole scenario, we're going back

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01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:36,040
Speaker 2: and forth. I just have one thing to put a

1612
01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:39,559
Speaker 2: bow on it. Thank God that we have the real

1613
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:43,320
Speaker 2: playoffs next year. And this is why it has to

1614
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:49,200
Speaker 2: be like the playoffs whole picture have they had needed

1615
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:52,559
Speaker 2: to be expanded, and so you look at this year's

1616
01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:57,120
Speaker 2: the perfect example. Let's see Florida State, right, Let's see

1617
01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 2: Washington and Oregon, who both truthfully deserve to be in.

1618
01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:05,679
Speaker 3: Georgia Alabama and away Alabama is playing.

1619
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 2: They deserve to be in. Texas deserves to be in.

1620
01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:09,400
Speaker 2: So now you get it all.

1621
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 1: I think that's the best thing about what's happening this

1622
01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:16,719
Speaker 1: year in the college football season, because a lot of times,

1623
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:18,880
Speaker 1: right now we have a pretty clear cut, Hey, there's

1624
01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:22,799
Speaker 1: really only two teams, and let's get through the blowout

1625
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:24,519
Speaker 1: first round of the playoffs to get to the actual

1626
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:27,200
Speaker 1: national championship game we want. If that was the case,

1627
01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:30,040
Speaker 1: then people today would be saying, why do we need expansion?

1628
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:33,240
Speaker 1: So you're right, this is an absolute perfect you know,

1629
01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:37,479
Speaker 1: with a twelve team format of five automatic qualifiers and

1630
01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:40,920
Speaker 1: seven wildcard bids. Basically think of how that changes everything,

1631
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 1: Like coaches won't be fired as often because if you

1632
01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:45,840
Speaker 1: get a wildcard bid, hey you still got a chance.

1633
01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 1: I made. The playoffs will become part of a continuity

1634
01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:51,840
Speaker 1: for our programs. That'll change. And then you just think

1635
01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:55,200
Speaker 1: about some of the matchups that we would get this year, particularly,

1636
01:16:55,479 --> 01:16:59,000
Speaker 1: we would be absolutely clamoring for them. So I think

1637
01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:01,240
Speaker 1: that this is one of the those rare years where

1638
01:17:01,479 --> 01:17:03,960
Speaker 1: there are seven or eight teams that could have a

1639
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:06,360
Speaker 1: really viable chance to win a national championship in a

1640
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:09,439
Speaker 1: playoff for Matt, So it gives us the perfect launching

1641
01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:11,560
Speaker 1: pad for why next year is so necessary.

1642
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:13,800
Speaker 5: And the argument was always that it would devalue the

1643
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:16,080
Speaker 5: regular season to expand the playoff, and I think to

1644
01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:16,880
Speaker 5: a small.

1645
01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:17,400
Speaker 4: Degree it would.

1646
01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:19,920
Speaker 5: But you know, whereas you know Michigan, Ohio State might

1647
01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:22,880
Speaker 5: not have as much of a bearing on the postseason

1648
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:25,920
Speaker 5: next year, you still have those races. You know, between

1649
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:29,040
Speaker 5: twelve thirteen, fourteen, all of a sudden, Oklahoma does have

1650
01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:31,880
Speaker 5: something to play for and they actually need to make

1651
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:33,840
Speaker 5: it to the Big twelve championship game to Desert to

1652
01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:35,519
Speaker 5: show they deserve to make it into the twelve team

1653
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:38,360
Speaker 5: playoff over a team like in Arizona who's hot to

1654
01:17:38,360 --> 01:17:40,439
Speaker 5: finish the season. They need to win against Arizona State.

1655
01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:42,719
Speaker 5: So it would make these other games that we generally

1656
01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:44,719
Speaker 5: wouldn't care about at the end of the regular season

1657
01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:47,640
Speaker 5: meaningful for the cut line at the very bottom of

1658
01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:48,559
Speaker 5: the playoff standings.

1659
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:50,600
Speaker 3: Yes, I was about to bring that up to you.

1660
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:53,519
Speaker 2: It's a great point, fig I mean, when you think

1661
01:17:53,560 --> 01:17:57,040
Speaker 2: about Oakland home, right, and you think about some of

1662
01:17:57,080 --> 01:18:02,439
Speaker 2: these teams, I mean it mad that you know you

1663
01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:05,519
Speaker 2: could go you have spots to play for you look

1664
01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:10,879
Speaker 2: at today's matchups, right, and that a little more intrigue.

1665
01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:14,160
Speaker 3: If you have you know, an expanded playoff.

1666
01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:17,400
Speaker 2: I mean, shade, because this is our last regular season

1667
01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:20,320
Speaker 2: week and after today at noon.

1668
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:23,479
Speaker 3: It's kind of anti climatic.

1669
01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:25,720
Speaker 5: Right You're paying attention now to LSU and A and

1670
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:28,200
Speaker 5: M as opposed to just a crazy game at the

1671
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:30,320
Speaker 5: end of the regular season that means nothing except Jayden

1672
01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:32,800
Speaker 5: Daniels patting his stats right now. That means like, hey,

1673
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:35,519
Speaker 5: LSU needs to win, and win convincingly to see if

1674
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:37,080
Speaker 5: they can actually make it into the postseason.

1675
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:39,439
Speaker 1: No God, and how many times would people be saying

1676
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:41,639
Speaker 1: right now, oh, who's the one team you don't want

1677
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:43,680
Speaker 1: to play in this year's playoffs? And LSU would be

1678
01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:45,560
Speaker 1: a huge answer for a lot of people on that

1679
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:48,519
Speaker 1: the way they've played recently, you know, and as good

1680
01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:51,000
Speaker 1: as they've played, as good as their quarterbacks look. So yeah,

1681
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:53,240
Speaker 1: that's a really good point that you know, we would

1682
01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:55,960
Speaker 1: find intrigue from teams that otherwise are just sort of

1683
01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:56,920
Speaker 1: out of it right now.

1684
01:18:57,040 --> 01:18:59,200
Speaker 2: I mean, that's why the whole reason why the NFL,

1685
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:03,080
Speaker 2: you know, many of their playoffs is to add intrigue

1686
01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:06,800
Speaker 2: for the end that make the regular season matter. You know,

1687
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:10,920
Speaker 2: They've been trying to make Week seventeen matter, you know,

1688
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:15,360
Speaker 2: like that, and so by adding those spots, it just

1689
01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:15,840
Speaker 2: makes it.

1690
01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:18,360
Speaker 3: That's what baseball did by adding the wild card spots.

1691
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:21,280
Speaker 4: I get more money too, there's that's not Yeah no, no.

1692
01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:24,000
Speaker 2: Money grab without a doubt, But at least it does

1693
01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:26,800
Speaker 2: make the end of the season relevant.

1694
01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:29,479
Speaker 5: One thing I didn't life for baseball is that it

1695
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:31,240
Speaker 5: kind of takes away from the trade deadline because too

1696
01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:33,080
Speaker 5: many teams are in it. So that's kind of one

1697
01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:36,320
Speaker 5: thing that that sacrifices. But for the five bases individually, yes,

1698
01:19:36,360 --> 01:19:38,080
Speaker 5: there's more. That means more teams are competitive.

1699
01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:41,400
Speaker 3: I get it. Yeah. No, I also love like.

1700
01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:44,720
Speaker 1: I love the concept of a non predictable title, like

1701
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:47,639
Speaker 1: the best team winning is boring. And when we've all

1702
01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:50,439
Speaker 1: seen that the Patriots undefeated lose to the Giants, it's

1703
01:19:50,479 --> 01:19:52,439
Speaker 1: a great super Bowl story. You get more of that

1704
01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:53,920
Speaker 1: in college football in the playoffs too.

1705
01:19:54,479 --> 01:19:58,000
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, all right, Coming up, we got to address

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01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:03,840
Speaker 2: Tom Brady's assessment of the NFL. Of today's NFL, we'll

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1726
01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:23,479
Speaker 2: just ripped the league that you know, it's it's just

1727
01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:27,000
Speaker 2: not a good product, bad habits, not enough practice, the

1728
01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:31,200
Speaker 2: whole thing. Now, if there's anyone you know qualified to

1729
01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:37,720
Speaker 2: discuss it, it's Brady, whose career spanned multiple generations of

1730
01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:43,760
Speaker 2: the NFL. The only thing is, I gotta tell you

1731
01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:48,760
Speaker 2: there's big quarterback play. And that's clear, Like we've looked

1732
01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:52,160
Speaker 2: at the Jets yesterday and there's a lot of you know,

1733
01:21:52,280 --> 01:21:53,480
Speaker 2: because of the injuries.

1734
01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:58,080
Speaker 3: But I still think the league is the league. I don't.

1735
01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:01,639
Speaker 2: I don't think it's it says bad as Brady makes

1736
01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:05,040
Speaker 2: it out to be. I think when you play seventeen games,

1737
01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:08,479
Speaker 2: you're going you add the game, and you add the

1738
01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:12,000
Speaker 2: short weeks, you're going to have it, you know, clunkers,

1739
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:14,559
Speaker 2: because the game's not meant to be played like that.

1740
01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:19,720
Speaker 1: There's a couple of things here that really stood out

1741
01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:23,680
Speaker 1: to me with Brady's comments. Number One, he went at

1742
01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:25,920
Speaker 1: the league for all of the things that look wrong

1743
01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:28,600
Speaker 1: in football now and talked about coaching and players, but

1744
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:32,519
Speaker 1: also talked about the rules without ever acknowledging that a

1745
01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:35,160
Speaker 1: very part of the reason, a huge part of the

1746
01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:37,439
Speaker 1: reason why the rules are what they are, it's because

1747
01:22:37,479 --> 01:22:41,080
Speaker 1: of Tom Brady. Like rules were changed to protect quarterbacks

1748
01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:43,680
Speaker 1: based on Tom Brady going down, and now the very

1749
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:45,880
Speaker 1: person that benefited from that was able to play for

1750
01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:48,120
Speaker 1: so long and also was a part of the reason

1751
01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:50,320
Speaker 1: the rules were changed, just saying well, the rules have

1752
01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:53,080
Speaker 1: made football look bad now. So I mean, at some

1753
01:22:53,120 --> 01:22:54,639
Speaker 1: point you got to look in the mirror and say,

1754
01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:56,880
Speaker 1: protecting me is part of the reason we are where

1755
01:22:56,880 --> 01:23:00,360
Speaker 1: we are for football in today's society. The other part

1756
01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:04,760
Speaker 1: of it is, is there really a problem? Like I mean, realistically,

1757
01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:08,200
Speaker 1: we just watched the Chiefs Eagulls put up record numbers

1758
01:23:08,200 --> 01:23:11,600
Speaker 1: because everybody flocked to it, like we still there is

1759
01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:14,479
Speaker 1: still good football being played. This feels like one of

1760
01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:17,240
Speaker 1: those years we got a lot of backup quarterbacks nobody

1761
01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:19,439
Speaker 1: gives a damn in and like, are we gonna sit

1762
01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:21,200
Speaker 1: here and worry about the health of the sport or

1763
01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:23,280
Speaker 1: we're just gonna turn around and say, hey, it's one

1764
01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:24,920
Speaker 1: of those years. Because it feels to me like the

1765
01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:27,800
Speaker 1: injury bug has bit the entire league and it's just

1766
01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:29,719
Speaker 1: a freak year. But at the end of the day,

1767
01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:33,520
Speaker 1: if we know that we're getting Jalen Hurts versus Patrick Mahomes,

1768
01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:37,599
Speaker 1: it's gonna set record viewership numbers because people love it.

1769
01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:40,840
Speaker 1: So the products obviously doing just fine. To me, it's

1770
01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:43,360
Speaker 1: just there are some bad quarterbacks playing because of the

1771
01:23:43,400 --> 01:23:45,720
Speaker 1: injury bug across the league, and if the league could

1772
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:48,280
Speaker 1: tweak that, that'd be great. But Tom Brady coming out

1773
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:51,120
Speaker 1: with the you know old man saying like this whole

1774
01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:53,960
Speaker 1: sports team is broken. Like, I'm just not buying any

1775
01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:57,080
Speaker 1: of that. I'm not buying anything now. I the same

1776
01:23:57,120 --> 01:23:57,479
Speaker 1: we action.

1777
01:23:57,680 --> 01:24:00,960
Speaker 3: You'd then like, oh, dB, you know, come on, man,

1778
01:24:01,479 --> 01:24:02,479
Speaker 3: it's not that bad.

1779
01:24:03,680 --> 01:24:07,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. He's also you know, at this point, a tiny owner,

1780
01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:09,479
Speaker 1: but a or at least they're trying to finalize all

1781
01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:11,840
Speaker 1: of these ownership deals stakes with the Raiders. So like,

1782
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:14,400
Speaker 1: if it's really that bad, Tom, you're Tom Brady, go

1783
01:24:14,479 --> 01:24:16,920
Speaker 1: fix it, don't don't don't sit there on seat, Like,

1784
01:24:17,200 --> 01:24:20,080
Speaker 1: if you really think there's a problem, go use the

1785
01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:22,800
Speaker 1: platform you have with the owners in the league and

1786
01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:25,120
Speaker 1: talk to people that can actually change it. If you

1787
01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:26,880
Speaker 1: just want to sit in front of a microphone and

1788
01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:29,840
Speaker 1: complain about it, you're Tom Dan Brady. You can do

1789
01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:32,479
Speaker 1: so much more with the voice that you have to

1790
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:35,880
Speaker 1: actually affect change if you think change needs to be made.

1791
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:38,280
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones is gonna listen to what Tom Brady says.

1792
01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:40,080
Speaker 1: He ain't gonna listen to you and me. He's gonna

1793
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:42,840
Speaker 1: listen to Brady. So Brady really thinks it's broken, why

1794
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:44,280
Speaker 1: don't you go out there and help fix it?

1795
01:24:46,400 --> 01:24:51,080
Speaker 3: Figure? Is Brady right? Do you have a point?

1796
01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:54,320
Speaker 5: I mean well, look, it's a bit of an overreaction.

1797
01:24:54,439 --> 01:24:56,559
Speaker 5: I do agree that, look, you know, tackling is bad.

1798
01:24:56,640 --> 01:24:59,719
Speaker 5: The art of tackling might actually be contributing to injuries,

1799
01:24:59,720 --> 01:25:01,920
Speaker 5: and that it's because it's been collectively bargaining with the players.

1800
01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:03,519
Speaker 5: They don't practice as much as they don't practice in

1801
01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:06,000
Speaker 5: pads as much. They don't tackle doing practice for risk

1802
01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:08,320
Speaker 5: of getting hurt, so that transfers over into the game.

1803
01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:09,559
Speaker 4: So all that stuff is true.

1804
01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:12,880
Speaker 5: And yes, the overall scoring in the league has been

1805
01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:15,240
Speaker 5: trending downward over the last couple of seasons, and I

1806
01:25:15,240 --> 01:25:17,800
Speaker 5: think a direct correlation to that it has been more

1807
01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:21,479
Speaker 5: injuries to quarterbacks. But to you guys's point, I don't

1808
01:25:21,520 --> 01:25:24,080
Speaker 5: think it's necessarily anything wrong with the league at this

1809
01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:26,680
Speaker 5: point in time. As Thomas pointing out, guys end up.

1810
01:25:26,760 --> 01:25:29,280
Speaker 5: I mean, it's happenstance. People get hurt. And look, it

1811
01:25:29,320 --> 01:25:32,080
Speaker 5: could be this whole debate about grass versus turf. Maybe

1812
01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:33,559
Speaker 5: that's part of it too, because so many of these

1813
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:36,280
Speaker 5: fields are turf fields and players can complain about getting

1814
01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:38,680
Speaker 5: injured more often. I know there's dad out there that

1815
01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:41,080
Speaker 5: definitely shows that despite what the NFL tries to say

1816
01:25:41,080 --> 01:25:43,719
Speaker 5: about it, so I think there's a number of different factors.

1817
01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:46,000
Speaker 5: But it's not like, Oh, Rodney Harrison knew out to

1818
01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:47,519
Speaker 5: tackle and this didn't happen back in the Nay, of

1819
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:50,240
Speaker 5: course it happened. Rodney Harris is the whole reason why

1820
01:25:50,439 --> 01:25:52,760
Speaker 5: Kurt Warner had a Hall of Fame career. The injury

1821
01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:55,479
Speaker 5: trying green in a preseason game. So what are we

1822
01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:55,960
Speaker 5: talking about?

1823
01:25:56,000 --> 01:25:56,400
Speaker 3: Tom So?

1824
01:25:56,560 --> 01:25:57,000
Speaker 4: I'm sorry.

1825
01:25:57,160 --> 01:25:59,920
Speaker 5: I'm more in liign with you guys while acknowledging, yes,

1826
01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:02,280
Speaker 5: things are not perfect and could be better. And I

1827
01:26:02,280 --> 01:26:04,880
Speaker 5: do think from the art of tackling is a lost art,

1828
01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:06,800
Speaker 5: and I do think people are getting hurt because of that.

1829
01:26:07,240 --> 01:26:09,120
Speaker 5: But I don't think it's necessarily wrong. I think they

1830
01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:11,720
Speaker 5: did it at the the right intention to make sure

1831
01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:14,400
Speaker 5: guys aren't getting hurt in practice. I understand why they

1832
01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:16,240
Speaker 5: made the changes they made.

1833
01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:18,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I gotta say, I gotta leave this.

1834
01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:22,599
Speaker 2: If you go back to give any given year, let's

1835
01:26:22,640 --> 01:26:26,519
Speaker 2: go back to the Rodney Harrison Brady like in the

1836
01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:30,160
Speaker 2: in the in the early aths, right, two thousand a year,

1837
01:26:30,360 --> 01:26:33,280
Speaker 2: oh six seven, and any of these team and it

1838
01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:40,479
Speaker 2: was yours you had. The football wasn't markedly better. I

1839
01:26:40,720 --> 01:26:43,200
Speaker 2: don't I don't think it was markedly better. I don't

1840
01:26:43,240 --> 01:26:45,920
Speaker 2: think quarterback play was markedly better. Ye had we look

1841
01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:49,240
Speaker 2: at the quarterbacks that you had right around that era,

1842
01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:51,559
Speaker 2: who were the best quarterbacks you had?

1843
01:26:51,880 --> 01:26:54,560
Speaker 4: It was Tom, it was Philip Rivers, was in that mix.

1844
01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:57,800
Speaker 3: Peyton, you know right, you would had you had.

1845
01:26:59,200 --> 01:27:03,200
Speaker 2: Study Breeze you at the end of Far the beginning

1846
01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:06,640
Speaker 2: of Rogers you had McNab.

1847
01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:09,919
Speaker 3: I mean all right.

1848
01:27:10,479 --> 01:27:13,080
Speaker 2: Like, I mean, I think the quarterback play now is

1849
01:27:13,240 --> 01:27:15,880
Speaker 2: as good, if not better now.

1850
01:27:16,120 --> 01:27:19,559
Speaker 4: I mean, with Barrows healthy right right as of this day,

1851
01:27:19,640 --> 01:27:20,200
Speaker 4: right now.

1852
01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:20,559
Speaker 3: It's worse.

1853
01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:22,280
Speaker 4: But that's because we have a lot of injuries.

1854
01:27:22,560 --> 01:27:24,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, but if you look at the snapshot of the

1855
01:27:24,520 --> 01:27:28,800
Speaker 2: game itself, I mean I like the game, I don't.

1856
01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:31,599
Speaker 4: I don't have any you know, like, oh my god.

1857
01:27:31,439 --> 01:27:33,960
Speaker 1: It's they need to take it.

1858
01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:38,000
Speaker 3: It's soft and nobody tackles. Well, if nobody tackles, and

1859
01:27:38,040 --> 01:27:39,360
Speaker 3: how come nobody scores points?

1860
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:43,360
Speaker 1: Like Also, yeah, this is a year where defense is

1861
01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:46,519
Speaker 1: winning across the board. So we're saying that nobody tackles

1862
01:27:46,520 --> 01:27:48,960
Speaker 1: in a year where defense seems to be actually out

1863
01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:51,240
Speaker 1: playing offense across the board like that, that seems weird

1864
01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:54,280
Speaker 1: to me. And your point about quarterback play is such

1865
01:27:54,280 --> 01:27:57,240
Speaker 1: a strong way. I will just I will remind as

1866
01:27:57,400 --> 01:27:59,720
Speaker 1: a Raiders fan, like there was a period where I

1867
01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:03,360
Speaker 1: thought Tad Morenovich was gonna have to be the franchise savior.

1868
01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:05,960
Speaker 1: There was a period where Jay Schrader was the best

1869
01:28:05,960 --> 01:28:08,880
Speaker 1: thing I could ever imagine seeing at the quarterback position.

1870
01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:12,880
Speaker 1: Like we're imagining we're looking back at the good old days.

1871
01:28:12,920 --> 01:28:15,559
Speaker 1: Like you know, like a Texas high school athlete that's

1872
01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:18,639
Speaker 1: oh man, he like the good old days at quarterback play.

1873
01:28:18,680 --> 01:28:20,640
Speaker 1: There was a lot of suck then too, right, like

1874
01:28:20,720 --> 01:28:24,160
Speaker 1: this just happens. Two things can universally be true. This

1875
01:28:24,240 --> 01:28:28,040
Speaker 1: can be a bad year for quarterbacks in the NFL

1876
01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:30,519
Speaker 1: because of health, and then also on the other side

1877
01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:33,160
Speaker 1: of it, the game can be wildly strong. I just

1878
01:28:33,600 --> 01:28:36,360
Speaker 1: I think that the Brady coming in and yelling about

1879
01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:39,680
Speaker 1: the problems in football presumes that there are problems in

1880
01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:42,760
Speaker 1: football that that bother most people. If you look at

1881
01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:45,920
Speaker 1: the gambling numbers, the fantasy numbers, the TV numbers, like

1882
01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:48,280
Speaker 1: if you look at every metric that shows what do

1883
01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:51,439
Speaker 1: people care about the fact is football's doing just fine?

1884
01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:53,680
Speaker 1: Like I just this is overrated.

1885
01:28:53,800 --> 01:28:56,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is Abraham Simpson, old man yelling at cloud

1886
01:28:56,840 --> 01:28:58,439
Speaker 5: is kind of what it sounds like to me. What's

1887
01:28:58,479 --> 01:29:00,719
Speaker 5: from Tom Brady? What's you say? Because not that old

1888
01:29:01,080 --> 01:29:05,439
Speaker 5: so dude just retired talking about if this is Fran Tarkinson,

1889
01:29:05,479 --> 01:29:05,960
Speaker 5: not get it?

1890
01:29:07,240 --> 01:29:08,360
Speaker 3: I know, I know.

1891
01:29:08,600 --> 01:29:13,639
Speaker 2: There you go. This is the quarterbacks. This is how

1892
01:29:13,640 --> 01:29:22,439
Speaker 2: the quarterbacks went in six. Peyton, Carson, Palmer, Drew Brees, Brady,

1893
01:29:23,200 --> 01:29:29,600
Speaker 2: Mark Bolger, Eli Manning, Rex Grossman, Philip Rivers, John Kittna,

1894
01:29:30,120 --> 01:29:33,439
Speaker 2: Michael Vick comely played a little bit. JP Losman, remember

1895
01:29:33,479 --> 01:29:41,559
Speaker 2: him turning, Romo Farv, Matt Hasselback, McNabb, Ben Roethlisberger, Jake Delone,

1896
01:29:41,960 --> 01:29:47,479
Speaker 2: Chad Pennington, Alex Smith, Joey Henryton, Vince Young, David Carr,

1897
01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:50,760
Speaker 2: David Heward, Matt Liner.

1898
01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:51,879
Speaker 3: Steve McNair.

1899
01:29:53,000 --> 01:29:54,320
Speaker 4: Have some good quarterbacks in there.

1900
01:29:55,360 --> 01:29:57,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, But I mean, if you go ahead the head

1901
01:29:57,280 --> 01:30:00,559
Speaker 3: of today, you know all this.

1902
01:30:00,520 --> 01:30:03,240
Speaker 5: Might be better to be honest from a death standpoint,

1903
01:30:03,880 --> 01:30:05,479
Speaker 5: just hearing some of those names, because even some of

1904
01:30:05,520 --> 01:30:08,599
Speaker 5: those guys in their short runs, like Mark Boulger for

1905
01:30:08,640 --> 01:30:10,320
Speaker 5: like a six year period, was really good.

1906
01:30:10,800 --> 01:30:13,679
Speaker 4: Like you take him over, a lot of guys start

1907
01:30:13,760 --> 01:30:14,080
Speaker 4: right now.

1908
01:30:14,080 --> 01:30:17,000
Speaker 1: Mark Bolger. Mark Bolger is going to be the test here.

1909
01:30:16,840 --> 01:30:18,920
Speaker 4: Like, no, I'm using him as a floor though.

1910
01:30:18,920 --> 01:30:20,920
Speaker 5: It's like, all right, for what he was, I mean

1911
01:30:22,200 --> 01:30:26,599
Speaker 5: Daming Heward and Liner and those guys weren't even playing.

1912
01:30:26,640 --> 01:30:29,599
Speaker 4: It's young Joey Harrington. No, those are bad ones.

1913
01:30:29,960 --> 01:30:32,439
Speaker 5: But I mean I'm saying like there there were a

1914
01:30:32,439 --> 01:30:34,680
Speaker 5: couple of guys that Matt Hasselbeck had a pretty good run,

1915
01:30:34,720 --> 01:30:40,040
Speaker 5: got to a super Bowl, Like oh, you know, well, fine,

1916
01:30:40,040 --> 01:30:41,960
Speaker 5: you know, maybe maybe you'd rather have, you know, the

1917
01:30:42,120 --> 01:30:43,599
Speaker 5: one of the quarterbacks from the Falcons.

1918
01:30:43,640 --> 01:30:45,519
Speaker 4: Then how about that.

1919
01:30:45,680 --> 01:30:49,760
Speaker 2: Well, that goes back to your stake. That's that's David Heward.

1920
01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:52,880
Speaker 1: I'll go back to ninety So I just pulled up

1921
01:30:52,920 --> 01:30:55,280
Speaker 1: the leading passers in the NFL in ninety seven. I'm

1922
01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:57,760
Speaker 1: not even going to use their yardage because obviously the

1923
01:30:57,840 --> 01:30:59,800
Speaker 1: game has changed so much. But by the way, the

1924
01:30:59,800 --> 01:31:04,479
Speaker 1: mos that year ninety seven, Jeff George was the number

1925
01:31:04,520 --> 01:31:06,439
Speaker 1: one th passing quarterback that year.

1926
01:31:06,600 --> 01:31:09,559
Speaker 3: Then there's that waslwigh right, Like wait, at the end.

1927
01:31:10,120 --> 01:31:14,080
Speaker 1: We have Marino Bledsoe warm Moon, John Elway, big names.

1928
01:31:14,280 --> 01:31:18,839
Speaker 1: Then you get Scott Mitchell, Mark Brunel, Tony Banks, Brad Johnson,

1929
01:31:18,880 --> 01:31:21,120
Speaker 1: who's constantly made fun of for winning a Super Bowl,

1930
01:31:21,280 --> 01:31:25,760
Speaker 1: Cordell Stuart, Eric Kramer, Vinnie Testaverdi Old, Vinnie Neil, O'Donnell,

1931
01:31:25,840 --> 01:31:28,800
Speaker 1: Chris Chandler, Gus Faratt, Like, let's not sit here and

1932
01:31:28,880 --> 01:31:32,320
Speaker 1: act like quarterback play more years than not. Trent Dilford,

1933
01:31:32,320 --> 01:31:36,840
Speaker 1: Todd Collins, Jeff Blake, Carrie Collins, and Jim Harball Like

1934
01:31:37,160 --> 01:31:39,120
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not seeing a group of names here

1935
01:31:39,120 --> 01:31:43,280
Speaker 1: that are suddenly inspiring generational heat. Like, yes, there are

1936
01:31:43,320 --> 01:31:45,720
Speaker 1: some good names on there. There's some good names right now,

1937
01:31:45,760 --> 01:31:49,120
Speaker 1: but my god, like just the concept that you know,

1938
01:31:49,240 --> 01:31:51,479
Speaker 1: the quarterback play is wildly down.

1939
01:31:51,479 --> 01:31:54,360
Speaker 2: I think let's start, let's stop, let's start at Let's

1940
01:31:54,400 --> 01:31:56,360
Speaker 2: not do now because there are injuries.

1941
01:31:56,360 --> 01:31:56,840
Speaker 3: I get it.

1942
01:31:57,360 --> 01:32:01,040
Speaker 2: But if you look at quarterback play, if you look

1943
01:32:01,040 --> 01:32:05,639
Speaker 2: at the quarterbacks, let's compare the three hours, all right,

1944
01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:08,679
Speaker 2: and let's see and we can give him all grades

1945
01:32:09,439 --> 01:32:13,120
Speaker 2: somehow doing ranking system. But write these down right here

1946
01:32:13,160 --> 01:32:21,520
Speaker 2: you go, Fitcy Okay Lamar, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Deshaun Watson,

1947
01:32:22,320 --> 01:32:31,280
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson, C. J. Stroud, Anthony Richardson, Trevor Lawrence Patrick, Mahomes,

1948
01:32:32,040 --> 01:32:40,960
Speaker 2: Jimmy Garoppolo, Justin Herbert Tua, Matt Jones, Rogers, Kenny Pickett,

1949
01:32:41,720 --> 01:32:49,480
Speaker 2: Ryan Tanney Hill, Desmond Ritter, Kyler, Murray, Bryce Young, Justin Fields,

1950
01:32:50,360 --> 01:32:59,480
Speaker 2: Dak Prescott, Jarrick Goff, Jordan Love, Stafford Cousins, Derek Carr,

1951
01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:08,320
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones, Hurts Purdy, Geevo Smith, Mayfield, Sam how that

1952
01:33:08,880 --> 01:33:10,519
Speaker 2: I was the list that started this season.

1953
01:33:12,000 --> 01:33:14,400
Speaker 3: I mean, that's a pretty bad list.

1954
01:33:14,920 --> 01:33:18,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's better than ninety seven.

1955
01:33:18,479 --> 01:33:19,519
Speaker 3: I don't remember.

1956
01:33:19,640 --> 01:33:21,640
Speaker 5: Maybe I missed the quote where Tom Brady said that,

1957
01:33:21,720 --> 01:33:23,880
Speaker 5: you know, quarterbacks back in the nineties are better than

1958
01:33:23,920 --> 01:33:26,080
Speaker 5: quarterbacks now. He dies a player development coming out of

1959
01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:29,080
Speaker 5: college isn't as good, which in some senses I don't

1960
01:33:29,080 --> 01:33:32,240
Speaker 5: fully disagree with, because college programs are not trying to

1961
01:33:32,280 --> 01:33:34,320
Speaker 5: prep them prep players for the pros. They're trying to

1962
01:33:34,320 --> 01:33:35,960
Speaker 5: win at the college level, and I think that there's

1963
01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:38,759
Speaker 5: a there's there's a distinct issue on from an offensive

1964
01:33:38,760 --> 01:33:41,639
Speaker 5: line standpoint, an offensive line play, and even coaches will

1965
01:33:41,640 --> 01:33:43,280
Speaker 5: tell you that it's a little bit different nowadays than

1966
01:33:43,280 --> 01:33:45,439
Speaker 5: it was back then, that players are not as well

1967
01:33:45,479 --> 01:33:49,000
Speaker 5: prepared from a quarterback at that standpoint, go on I'll take.

1968
01:33:48,880 --> 01:33:52,160
Speaker 1: Your offensive line point, and I'll raise you wide receivers. Like,

1969
01:33:52,160 --> 01:33:54,679
Speaker 1: part of the reason quarterbacks and wide receivers are having

1970
01:33:54,720 --> 01:33:58,240
Speaker 1: immediate successes because college game plans are being instituted, so

1971
01:33:58,640 --> 01:34:00,640
Speaker 1: they're using a lot of these quick throws out to

1972
01:34:00,680 --> 01:34:03,120
Speaker 1: the outside and putting the ball in the wide receiver's hands.

1973
01:34:03,120 --> 01:34:05,520
Speaker 1: So we're seeing numbers that are unprecedented.

1974
01:34:05,520 --> 01:34:09,880
Speaker 2: All the fact that playing spread now throwing all the time, you.

1975
01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:11,000
Speaker 4: Also can't touch them anymore.

1976
01:34:11,000 --> 01:34:12,960
Speaker 5: That also helps, and that was something that happened in

1977
01:34:13,000 --> 01:34:15,479
Speaker 5: the midst of Tom Brady's run with the Patriots too.

1978
01:34:16,640 --> 01:34:19,519
Speaker 1: But I was like, all of that is like, I'll

1979
01:34:19,520 --> 01:34:21,880
Speaker 1: give you that offensive linemen are underdeveloped, and I think

1980
01:34:21,920 --> 01:34:23,920
Speaker 1: the biggest failing right now in the NFL is that

1981
01:34:23,920 --> 01:34:27,759
Speaker 1: there aren't thirty two qualified left tackles, right tackles guards

1982
01:34:27,760 --> 01:34:30,400
Speaker 1: like they're just they aren't there. There isn't. I don't

1983
01:34:30,439 --> 01:34:32,160
Speaker 1: think there's a level of talent and the level of

1984
01:34:32,200 --> 01:34:36,439
Speaker 1: development from offensive line play specifically. But I guess my

1985
01:34:36,600 --> 01:34:39,360
Speaker 1: argument to that would be, is it hurting the game

1986
01:34:39,439 --> 01:34:41,960
Speaker 1: at some tremendous level. And if we're going to look

1987
01:34:41,960 --> 01:34:44,639
Speaker 1: at the lack of development, then let's also then turn

1988
01:34:44,680 --> 01:34:46,800
Speaker 1: around and talk about how many quarterbacks are coming in

1989
01:34:46,920 --> 01:34:50,639
Speaker 1: immediately and having success right away, Like that's a statement

1990
01:34:50,720 --> 01:34:54,240
Speaker 1: to something like c J. Stroud having immediate success has

1991
01:34:54,280 --> 01:34:56,759
Speaker 1: to be a statement as opposed to Brady's era where

1992
01:34:57,040 --> 01:35:00,679
Speaker 1: guys sat for two years and you know, Brad, I'm sorry,

1993
01:35:00,720 --> 01:35:03,120
Speaker 1: did I miss the development of JaMarcus Russell? Like I

1994
01:35:03,200 --> 01:35:06,760
Speaker 1: just think he's overstating what the development was in his area.

1995
01:35:06,960 --> 01:35:11,200
Speaker 2: I agree, I agree they time man. You know, it

1996
01:35:11,800 --> 01:35:14,559
Speaker 2: sounds it's old man hate.

1997
01:35:14,840 --> 01:35:18,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think generally speaking, he's wrong with us, and

1998
01:35:18,040 --> 01:35:20,360
Speaker 5: there's kind of an element of truth within that. But

1999
01:35:20,439 --> 01:35:22,800
Speaker 5: I think overarchingly, there's nothing wrong with the league as

2000
01:35:22,800 --> 01:35:24,840
Speaker 5: a whole, So I do side with you, but I

2001
01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:27,479
Speaker 5: do think that there's a just a modicum of truth

2002
01:35:27,560 --> 01:35:30,479
Speaker 5: within that for a certain positions, specifically the offensive line.

2003
01:35:31,439 --> 01:35:34,479
Speaker 3: Joy and listen, the old line is the old line.

2004
01:35:34,479 --> 01:35:35,559
Speaker 3: And I don't disagree.

2005
01:35:35,600 --> 01:35:39,280
Speaker 2: But here's the one thing that I think contributes to

2006
01:35:39,400 --> 01:35:42,519
Speaker 2: what Brady is like big pictures, seeing saying, and I

2007
01:35:42,560 --> 01:35:46,000
Speaker 2: do think it's you know, when you're playing short week

2008
01:35:46,439 --> 01:35:50,960
Speaker 2: and you're playing seventeen games, that's a big deal. Like

2009
01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:56,840
Speaker 2: that affects injuries, It affects what it looks like. Yeah,

2010
01:35:56,880 --> 01:36:00,679
Speaker 2: because in your mind, you're not fit thin get about

2011
01:36:00,800 --> 01:36:04,920
Speaker 2: Monday night Kansas City Eagles. You're thinking about all those

2012
01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:06,280
Speaker 2: Thursday night trash games.

2013
01:36:07,360 --> 01:36:09,879
Speaker 4: Sure as that games we all see.

2014
01:36:10,960 --> 01:36:14,320
Speaker 1: That's the point here that maybe we've landed on that

2015
01:36:14,840 --> 01:36:18,240
Speaker 1: I think influences the way Brady sees the game. There

2016
01:36:18,280 --> 01:36:21,559
Speaker 1: are so many national TV windows now where there weren't before.

2017
01:36:21,920 --> 01:36:25,519
Speaker 1: So the ugly of the NFL in Brady's era even

2018
01:36:26,040 --> 01:36:28,960
Speaker 1: was hidden to just a couple of games a week, right,

2019
01:36:29,040 --> 01:36:31,400
Speaker 1: so you had it was much easier when you only

2020
01:36:31,400 --> 01:36:34,320
Speaker 1: had to nationally programmed Sunday night and Monday. It was

2021
01:36:34,439 --> 01:36:37,080
Speaker 1: much easier to make sure that everything was fine. Now,

2022
01:36:37,240 --> 01:36:39,360
Speaker 1: the way that they do the TV broadcast even during

2023
01:36:39,400 --> 01:36:41,880
Speaker 1: the day, the national games, and then the Thursday game

2024
01:36:41,920 --> 01:36:44,600
Speaker 1: on top of it, the Friday game, Saturday games, we

2025
01:36:44,640 --> 01:36:47,760
Speaker 1: get sometimes like there's more windows to program the double

2026
01:36:47,800 --> 01:36:50,240
Speaker 1: headers on Monday night. You just you're gonna get more

2027
01:36:50,280 --> 01:36:53,080
Speaker 1: turns in the punch bowl because you're you're just there's

2028
01:36:53,120 --> 01:36:54,360
Speaker 1: more punch we have passed out.

2029
01:36:55,640 --> 01:36:57,439
Speaker 3: Yes, Yeah, that's a.

2030
01:36:57,360 --> 01:37:01,880
Speaker 1: Great it's a really famous, fabulous it is it is.

2031
01:37:02,840 --> 01:37:05,280
Speaker 2: It's the chair ball Let's say I hear you Brown,

2032
01:37:05,880 --> 01:37:09,760
Speaker 2: listen right on. All right, we'll take a quick g oh,

2033
01:37:10,479 --> 01:37:14,439
Speaker 2: we'll come back. Let's talk about some of the quarterback play.

2034
01:37:14,720 --> 01:37:20,679
Speaker 2: Let's zone in on Dak. Is Dak your MVP. Let's

2035
01:37:20,680 --> 01:37:24,680
Speaker 2: discuss that. Let's discuss the powers of the of the

2036
01:37:25,040 --> 01:37:29,599
Speaker 2: h in the NFL, NFC, AFC and that matchup Monday night.

2037
01:37:29,640 --> 01:37:33,519
Speaker 3: What it means. Take a look at Sunday's card, Tomorrow's card.

2038
01:37:33,960 --> 01:37:34,519
Speaker 3: Lots to do.

2039
01:37:34,640 --> 01:37:38,599
Speaker 2: Where the fella is right here on Fox Sports Radio.

2040
01:37:39,439 --> 01:37:47,400
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2046
01:38:08,320 --> 01:38:12,720
Speaker 2: at you because the early part of this season it

2047
01:38:12,920 --> 01:38:15,920
Speaker 2: was Lamar who was the front runner for the MVP.

2048
01:38:17,000 --> 01:38:23,679
Speaker 2: But as Dak Prescott passed Lamar, what are you thinking, fits?

2049
01:38:24,479 --> 01:38:27,519
Speaker 1: I mean, I think so this is one of those

2050
01:38:27,600 --> 01:38:30,320
Speaker 1: weird years where if you told me that you know

2051
01:38:30,360 --> 01:38:32,400
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett was gonna win it. I would have no

2052
01:38:32,400 --> 01:38:34,479
Speaker 1: problem with that. By the way, like I think this

2053
01:38:34,560 --> 01:38:36,320
Speaker 1: is one of those years where we could reward a

2054
01:38:36,400 --> 01:38:39,720
Speaker 1: non quarterback, but that's never gonna happen. And when you

2055
01:38:39,760 --> 01:38:42,519
Speaker 1: start thinking about the expectations on the Cowboys, you start

2056
01:38:42,560 --> 01:38:45,160
Speaker 1: thinking about how clean the Dak has looked. I think

2057
01:38:45,160 --> 01:38:47,519
Speaker 1: he's done everything you could ask him to do. There

2058
01:38:47,560 --> 01:38:50,240
Speaker 1: hasn't necessarily been even when the Cowboys have lost, We've

2059
01:38:50,240 --> 01:38:52,160
Speaker 1: sort of looked back and said, wow, I'm not putting

2060
01:38:52,160 --> 01:38:54,439
Speaker 1: that one on Dak, and it feels like, well, there

2061
01:38:54,479 --> 01:38:56,840
Speaker 1: have been for other players sort of fatal flaw moments

2062
01:38:56,880 --> 01:38:58,960
Speaker 1: in the season, haven't seen it for Dak. There really

2063
01:38:59,000 --> 01:39:01,720
Speaker 1: hasn't been a question mark around his play this year,

2064
01:39:01,800 --> 01:39:04,760
Speaker 1: so I think it makes sense that he's in that

2065
01:39:04,880 --> 01:39:07,400
Speaker 1: category right now. This is part of we talked about

2066
01:39:07,400 --> 01:39:09,639
Speaker 1: the greatness of college football. I would argue the same

2067
01:39:09,680 --> 01:39:11,439
Speaker 1: for the NFL. The fact that we are sitting here

2068
01:39:11,439 --> 01:39:14,479
Speaker 1: past Thanksgiving and there isn't a clear cut front running

2069
01:39:14,520 --> 01:39:16,640
Speaker 1: for MVP. I think speaks to the beauty of the

2070
01:39:16,680 --> 01:39:17,320
Speaker 1: league this year.

2071
01:39:18,640 --> 01:39:22,400
Speaker 2: Totally, totally, And if you look at it, well, I'll

2072
01:39:22,600 --> 01:39:25,080
Speaker 2: ask you, Figgy, where do you got Dak in your

2073
01:39:25,200 --> 01:39:26,280
Speaker 2: MVP race.

2074
01:39:27,280 --> 01:39:28,719
Speaker 4: He's got to be somewhere near the top.

2075
01:39:28,880 --> 01:39:31,160
Speaker 5: Now, you wonder as we get deeper into the season,

2076
01:39:31,160 --> 01:39:32,519
Speaker 5: I'll tie of a race it's going to be, and

2077
01:39:32,560 --> 01:39:35,760
Speaker 5: how granular we're gonna look at these evaluations, because you

2078
01:39:35,760 --> 01:39:38,760
Speaker 5: can say, on one hand, he's really struggled against the

2079
01:39:38,800 --> 01:39:40,760
Speaker 5: better teams that he's played this year. You go back

2080
01:39:40,760 --> 01:39:42,320
Speaker 5: to the forty nine or loss and how bad he

2081
01:39:42,360 --> 01:39:44,640
Speaker 5: looked in that game. He actually looked solid down the

2082
01:39:44,640 --> 01:39:47,519
Speaker 5: stretch against Philadelphia the first time. And I know, after

2083
01:39:47,520 --> 01:39:50,439
Speaker 5: they play Seattle on Thursday, they have Philly going into

2084
01:39:50,520 --> 01:39:52,960
Speaker 5: Dallas on Sunday night the following week, and that could

2085
01:39:53,280 --> 01:39:55,439
Speaker 5: be a big swing game in determining where he sits.

2086
01:39:55,439 --> 01:39:57,680
Speaker 5: But I mean, how can you argue the value that

2087
01:39:57,720 --> 01:40:00,320
Speaker 5: he has to this offense. Look, when they do play well,

2088
01:40:00,479 --> 01:40:02,760
Speaker 5: which has been more often than not, he's been the

2089
01:40:02,800 --> 01:40:05,120
Speaker 5: catalyst for it. You know, when the Cowboys win, he's

2090
01:40:05,160 --> 01:40:08,120
Speaker 5: typically throwing two or three touchdowns and not turning the

2091
01:40:08,120 --> 01:40:10,840
Speaker 5: ball over. And you know, how can uss value or

2092
01:40:10,880 --> 01:40:12,559
Speaker 5: how better can uss value than that?

2093
01:40:12,640 --> 01:40:16,599
Speaker 4: When he plays well they win? Yeah, I got right.

2094
01:40:16,520 --> 01:40:18,559
Speaker 1: About that San Francisco game, though, I should I should

2095
01:40:18,560 --> 01:40:20,720
Speaker 1: at least point that out, like that was such a

2096
01:40:20,840 --> 01:40:23,240
Speaker 1: terrible game. I wonder if that sits in the minds

2097
01:40:23,240 --> 01:40:26,040
Speaker 1: of vote voters, or if the bounce back since then

2098
01:40:26,520 --> 01:40:28,320
Speaker 1: also sits to the minds of voters. I don't know.

2099
01:40:29,160 --> 01:40:33,479
Speaker 2: Now, he played well against the Eagles in that game,

2100
01:40:33,600 --> 01:40:37,960
Speaker 2: especially in the second half. Yes, but he also there

2101
01:40:38,000 --> 01:40:40,800
Speaker 2: were two plays that he could have won the game.

2102
01:40:41,160 --> 01:40:41,439
Speaker 12: M hm.

2103
01:40:42,200 --> 01:40:44,519
Speaker 3: But he steps out of bounds on one and.

2104
01:40:44,479 --> 01:40:46,880
Speaker 5: He's short one he throws one short to Schoonmaker short

2105
01:40:46,880 --> 01:40:47,360
Speaker 5: of the end zone.

2106
01:40:47,479 --> 01:40:49,040
Speaker 2: Or if he looks to the right and he looks

2107
01:40:49,080 --> 01:40:51,240
Speaker 2: to the other side, he's got greaded Cooks for a

2108
01:40:51,240 --> 01:40:54,920
Speaker 2: walk in right. So that my only like, my only

2109
01:40:55,000 --> 01:40:58,840
Speaker 2: reservation is, dude, you know, if you're at VP, you

2110
01:40:58,880 --> 01:41:02,960
Speaker 2: gotta win. You need to win games and not just

2111
01:41:03,160 --> 01:41:04,879
Speaker 2: pat stats against bad teams.

2112
01:41:04,960 --> 01:41:07,040
Speaker 5: What do you guys think about And this might be

2113
01:41:07,080 --> 01:41:08,880
Speaker 5: a bit of a wild card, but hear me out

2114
01:41:09,520 --> 01:41:14,559
Speaker 5: Tyreek Hill considering how ah, yes, oh well, the Dolphins

2115
01:41:14,560 --> 01:41:17,200
Speaker 5: offense plays this year, he's pretty much the catalyst that

2116
01:41:17,280 --> 01:41:20,400
Speaker 5: makes them go. This is no hate on Tua Tua's venex.

2117
01:41:21,880 --> 01:41:24,280
Speaker 5: I think he there out feel like there's very few

2118
01:41:24,280 --> 01:41:27,040
Speaker 5: little argument that he's probably the best receiver in the NFL,

2119
01:41:27,080 --> 01:41:29,240
Speaker 5: and just the dynamics of that offense when he's on

2120
01:41:29,280 --> 01:41:31,680
Speaker 5: the field and what he does for them, I think

2121
01:41:31,760 --> 01:41:34,360
Speaker 5: can't be discounted. I think, I know it's unconventional to

2122
01:41:34,400 --> 01:41:36,280
Speaker 5: have a receiver an MVP race, and I don't think

2123
01:41:36,280 --> 01:41:38,120
Speaker 5: anyone's done it since Rice did it years ago.

2124
01:41:38,520 --> 01:41:44,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, but your point, he's so freaking unstoppable, man, when

2125
01:41:44,479 --> 01:41:47,280
Speaker 2: everybody knows he's getting the ball and you still can't stop.

2126
01:41:47,760 --> 01:41:50,000
Speaker 4: And he ain't not Randy Moss. You know, he's not

2127
01:41:50,360 --> 01:41:51,120
Speaker 4: nine feet tall.

2128
01:41:51,600 --> 01:41:54,400
Speaker 1: You know there's this element too for me where it's like,

2129
01:41:54,960 --> 01:41:57,160
Speaker 1: when you see it on the schedule right now, who's

2130
01:41:57,160 --> 01:41:58,920
Speaker 1: the guy that you're saying, Oh, man, we got to

2131
01:41:58,960 --> 01:42:01,559
Speaker 1: take on incertain here. So like when you take on

2132
01:42:01,600 --> 01:42:03,360
Speaker 1: the Browns to the Miles Garrett point, you're like, oh

2133
01:42:03,360 --> 01:42:04,679
Speaker 1: my god, I don't know how we're going to score.

2134
01:42:04,680 --> 01:42:06,559
Speaker 1: I just hope my quarterback doesn't die because we got

2135
01:42:06,560 --> 01:42:09,080
Speaker 1: to take on Miles Garrett. When you take on the Dolphins,

2136
01:42:09,439 --> 01:42:12,439
Speaker 1: the first thing is not to or Mostered or anybody else.

2137
01:42:12,640 --> 01:42:15,040
Speaker 1: The first thing you think is, man, there's no way

2138
01:42:15,040 --> 01:42:17,519
Speaker 1: we're stopping Tyreek like that is just that is such

2139
01:42:17,520 --> 01:42:21,320
Speaker 1: a real portion of that conversation. I love the concept

2140
01:42:21,360 --> 01:42:25,680
Speaker 1: of Tyreek for MVP because he is absolutely uncoverable. He

2141
01:42:25,760 --> 01:42:28,479
Speaker 1: is unstoppable. Teams are trying everything they can to take

2142
01:42:28,520 --> 01:42:30,479
Speaker 1: him away. He's still just gonna be good for one

2143
01:42:30,560 --> 01:42:32,559
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty and two touchdowns every time he wants

2144
01:42:32,600 --> 01:42:36,160
Speaker 1: to be. It's stunning to watch how effortless he makes

2145
01:42:36,200 --> 01:42:39,240
Speaker 1: it look and how many bad angles suddenly people take.

2146
01:42:39,320 --> 01:42:42,040
Speaker 1: Because no matter how much you've seen that speed on film,

2147
01:42:42,080 --> 01:42:44,280
Speaker 1: when you're up against it in person, if you run

2148
01:42:44,320 --> 01:42:45,840
Speaker 1: to where you think you need to run to, you

2149
01:42:45,880 --> 01:42:48,879
Speaker 1: are going to miss Tyreek like it is. It's stunning

2150
01:42:48,920 --> 01:42:52,720
Speaker 1: to see how silly he makes secondary good secondary players look.

2151
01:42:52,760 --> 01:42:54,960
Speaker 1: So yeah, I love that that call away you I.

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01:42:54,880 --> 01:42:57,320
Speaker 4: Mean think on Thursday or Friday. Excuse me.

2153
01:42:57,320 --> 01:42:59,720
Speaker 5: I mean he had a quote unquote bad game for

2154
01:42:59,800 --> 01:43:02,439
Speaker 5: him standard nine ketches, one hundred yards and a touchdown.

2155
01:43:03,160 --> 01:43:03,519
Speaker 3: Anything.

2156
01:43:03,960 --> 01:43:07,479
Speaker 2: Anybody will take that on a ankle, Yeah, come on,

2157
01:43:07,960 --> 01:43:08,840
Speaker 2: first play the game.

2158
01:43:08,880 --> 01:43:11,680
Speaker 3: He has to go out. Yeah, it's ridiculous. It's a

2159
01:43:11,680 --> 01:43:12,160
Speaker 3: great point.

2160
01:43:12,240 --> 01:43:14,479
Speaker 5: So if I had a one A or like an

2161
01:43:14,600 --> 01:43:17,360
Speaker 5: MVP vote myself, I think he'd be number one for me,

2162
01:43:17,400 --> 01:43:18,680
Speaker 5: to be honest, above anybody.

2163
01:43:18,760 --> 01:43:21,640
Speaker 3: It's a great argument, Shay, Yeah.

2164
01:43:21,360 --> 01:43:23,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, figure, I agree with you. But the issue with

2165
01:43:23,520 --> 01:43:26,200
Speaker 6: that is is with like he has Tua, you know

2166
01:43:26,240 --> 01:43:28,680
Speaker 6: what I mean, Like, if if a backup quarterback was

2167
01:43:28,720 --> 01:43:30,400
Speaker 6: to come in and he was to have the same

2168
01:43:30,439 --> 01:43:32,679
Speaker 6: performance for the rest of the season, I would completely

2169
01:43:32,680 --> 01:43:35,719
Speaker 6: agree with you. But because it's Tua and he's performing

2170
01:43:35,760 --> 01:43:38,000
Speaker 6: as well as he is, I think that kind of

2171
01:43:38,040 --> 01:43:40,760
Speaker 6: takes away from him or at least his MVP status,

2172
01:43:41,080 --> 01:43:43,280
Speaker 6: Like like one hundred percent if he had i'd agree

2173
01:43:43,320 --> 01:43:45,040
Speaker 6: with In a QB three, I think one hundred percent

2174
01:43:45,080 --> 01:43:47,880
Speaker 6: he would be MVP. But just because because think about this,

2175
01:43:48,000 --> 01:43:50,640
Speaker 6: Lamark could be throwing to anyone and he'll do just

2176
01:43:50,680 --> 01:43:51,960
Speaker 6: as well. You know what I mean, It doesn't matter

2177
01:43:52,000 --> 01:43:52,600
Speaker 6: who he's throwing to.

2178
01:43:52,920 --> 01:43:57,280
Speaker 2: No, No, I disagree completely because he's gonna miss Mark

2179
01:43:57,360 --> 01:44:00,000
Speaker 2: Andrews in a big way.

2180
01:43:59,760 --> 01:44:04,000
Speaker 3: And you know two is good and Tyreek Hill makes

2181
01:44:04,040 --> 01:44:04,840
Speaker 3: him way better.

2182
01:44:05,640 --> 01:44:08,439
Speaker 1: Dak has CD. Right, We're not sitting there saying, oh

2183
01:44:08,439 --> 01:44:10,479
Speaker 1: but you know, no CD, LAMB like that would be

2184
01:44:10,880 --> 01:44:13,400
Speaker 1: Dak has got weapons and you know, I think Lamar,

2185
01:44:14,360 --> 01:44:16,519
Speaker 1: you're you're right on that one, Cuz, like there's this

2186
01:44:16,560 --> 01:44:19,040
Speaker 1: element for me where we've spent the whole year talking about,

2187
01:44:19,280 --> 01:44:21,639
Speaker 1: you know how the fantasy numbers haven't really been there

2188
01:44:21,680 --> 01:44:24,599
Speaker 1: for Lamar because his guys can't hold on to the football.

2189
01:44:24,760 --> 01:44:26,640
Speaker 1: So he's not getting a ton of help in the

2190
01:44:26,640 --> 01:44:29,720
Speaker 1: wide receiver position for sure, but there is still this

2191
01:44:29,800 --> 01:44:33,360
Speaker 1: element of up and down. Like I for me, if

2192
01:44:33,400 --> 01:44:35,080
Speaker 1: you want to talk about players that have not had

2193
01:44:35,080 --> 01:44:37,439
Speaker 1: a single game where they just you just looked at

2194
01:44:37,439 --> 01:44:39,640
Speaker 1: it and thought, man, I don't know, like Tyreek and

2195
01:44:39,680 --> 01:44:42,240
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett, the two on that list max across me, Like,

2196
01:44:42,280 --> 01:44:45,400
Speaker 1: those are the guys that week in and week out consistent,

2197
01:44:45,560 --> 01:44:48,880
Speaker 1: Oh my god, game wreckers. I don't know that it's

2198
01:44:48,880 --> 01:44:51,640
Speaker 1: been the quarterbacks that have done that. So like I,

2199
01:44:51,640 --> 01:44:54,680
Speaker 1: if Tyreek's out, I don't fear two. If two is out,

2200
01:44:54,720 --> 01:44:55,679
Speaker 1: I still fear Tyreek.

2201
01:44:56,720 --> 01:45:00,720
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, yeah, I agree with that. I mean, but

2202
01:45:00,800 --> 01:45:02,960
Speaker 6: like with Cooper Cup in twenty twenty one, I think

2203
01:45:02,960 --> 01:45:05,519
Speaker 6: he had like very similar stats to Tyreek Hill. Right

2204
01:45:05,560 --> 01:45:08,320
Speaker 6: now is the only difference that there was a.

2205
01:45:08,400 --> 01:45:11,719
Speaker 2: Usual main problem though, this is your problem, right You're

2206
01:45:11,720 --> 01:45:13,200
Speaker 2: looking at stats.

2207
01:45:13,600 --> 01:45:15,599
Speaker 4: You're looking at impact overall impact.

2208
01:45:15,640 --> 01:45:16,920
Speaker 6: Now you're right there, You're definitely right.

2209
01:45:17,040 --> 01:45:21,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like Tyreek Hill is unguardable, that's you know. And

2210
01:45:21,400 --> 01:45:24,479
Speaker 2: I love Cooper Cup and nobody ran. You looked at

2211
01:45:24,479 --> 01:45:27,679
Speaker 2: that year and he was amazing, get open and run

2212
01:45:27,720 --> 01:45:29,679
Speaker 2: every route, But my god.

2213
01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:31,920
Speaker 3: Tyreek Hill completely disrupts you.

2214
01:45:32,080 --> 01:45:35,760
Speaker 2: And if you fail, if there's a won't coverage, it's

2215
01:45:35,800 --> 01:45:39,680
Speaker 2: a touchdown, you know, Like that's the big issue.

2216
01:45:40,000 --> 01:45:42,960
Speaker 3: I just think he's a special case.

2217
01:45:44,400 --> 01:45:46,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not saying it can happen. I just don't

2218
01:45:46,360 --> 01:45:49,559
Speaker 6: think it will happen. Especially, I just think I think

2219
01:45:49,560 --> 01:45:51,800
Speaker 6: it for sure will happen if, for instance, Tua is

2220
01:45:51,840 --> 01:45:53,840
Speaker 6: out and then they have a new QB and he's

2221
01:45:53,840 --> 01:45:56,080
Speaker 6: still able to do the way he's doing been doing.

2222
01:45:56,160 --> 01:45:58,040
Speaker 6: But I just I don't think they'll give him MVP

2223
01:45:58,160 --> 01:46:00,360
Speaker 6: if if he doesn't, for instance, have that, if he

2224
01:46:00,479 --> 01:46:02,439
Speaker 6: just has two at quarterback. And I mean, I'd love

2225
01:46:02,439 --> 01:46:04,920
Speaker 6: to see Tyree. I love Tyreek, He's on my fantasy team.

2226
01:46:05,320 --> 01:46:08,920
Speaker 1: But we are we undervaluing Hurts in this conversation though,

2227
01:46:09,080 --> 01:46:11,160
Speaker 1: Like I mean, he's going to bring him up in

2228
01:46:11,200 --> 01:46:14,280
Speaker 1: the NFL, Like the Hurts belongs in this somewhere, right.

2229
01:46:15,240 --> 01:46:19,120
Speaker 5: And I'm surprised Anton, Well, I was, I mean, I

2230
01:46:19,120 --> 01:46:19,920
Speaker 5: guess hurts.

2231
01:46:21,000 --> 01:46:23,080
Speaker 3: Yeah. Here's the here's the thing. I will say, though.

2232
01:46:24,600 --> 01:46:28,920
Speaker 2: He's had a good year, but he has not had

2233
01:46:29,120 --> 01:46:31,880
Speaker 2: a he was better last year.

2234
01:46:31,920 --> 01:46:33,880
Speaker 4: His stats are not as good. Were going talking stats

2235
01:46:33,920 --> 01:46:34,040
Speaker 4: or not.

2236
01:46:34,400 --> 01:46:36,639
Speaker 3: I'm not even talking stats. I'm just talking about his play.

2237
01:46:36,800 --> 01:46:38,960
Speaker 1: Like yeah, like he's like.

2238
01:46:38,920 --> 01:46:42,360
Speaker 2: He's in the conversation without a doubt. But you know,

2239
01:46:42,800 --> 01:46:47,479
Speaker 2: Prescott's dat. Prescott's like eye popping sometimes only because of

2240
01:46:47,520 --> 01:46:50,400
Speaker 2: the of the like he trounce his bad teams, right

2241
01:46:50,680 --> 01:46:54,439
Speaker 2: the Cowboys roll over and he just has these ridiculous numbers.

2242
01:46:55,560 --> 01:46:59,400
Speaker 2: I think the Eagles win because they're just so good

2243
01:46:59,560 --> 01:47:03,639
Speaker 2: on both sides of the ball. Obviously Jalen. If Jalen

2244
01:47:03,680 --> 01:47:07,519
Speaker 2: got hurt, they're completely different teams. So uh, they're not

2245
01:47:07,640 --> 01:47:10,519
Speaker 2: nearly as dangerous the whole thing. So we obviously belonged

2246
01:47:10,560 --> 01:47:13,559
Speaker 2: to the conversation. But like, to me, that the real

2247
01:47:13,880 --> 01:47:16,960
Speaker 2: the real deal with when it comes to like the

2248
01:47:17,080 --> 01:47:20,200
Speaker 2: awards and the guy that never gets any love and

2249
01:47:20,280 --> 01:47:25,320
Speaker 2: I don't get it. It is Sirianny, Like Sirianni still

2250
01:47:25,720 --> 01:47:28,280
Speaker 2: like he should be the front runner for Coach of

2251
01:47:28,320 --> 01:47:30,800
Speaker 2: the Year, And I don't understand why he gets no love.

2252
01:47:31,760 --> 01:47:36,760
Speaker 1: I mean, he's nine at nine and one, Tomko, Tomiko's

2253
01:47:36,800 --> 01:47:38,679
Speaker 1: the front runner and coach of the year, right because

2254
01:47:38,720 --> 01:47:41,240
Speaker 1: we when we when we think that a team's gonna

2255
01:47:41,240 --> 01:47:43,880
Speaker 1: suck and it turns out they don't like I mean this,

2256
01:47:44,640 --> 01:47:48,040
Speaker 1: as much as we look at the NFL schedule, let's

2257
01:47:48,080 --> 01:47:51,800
Speaker 1: remember that if the Texans beat the Jags tomorrow, they

2258
01:47:51,840 --> 01:47:53,720
Speaker 1: will not only have the same record, but they will

2259
01:47:53,720 --> 01:47:56,639
Speaker 1: have the season, sweep the tiebreaker, and they would, in theory,

2260
01:47:57,080 --> 01:47:59,800
Speaker 1: be the AFC South champions, to have gone from where

2261
01:47:59,800 --> 01:48:02,479
Speaker 1: they word to the AFC South Champions, Like when you

2262
01:48:02,520 --> 01:48:06,040
Speaker 1: when you pull a franchise out of the barrel to suck,

2263
01:48:06,200 --> 01:48:08,120
Speaker 1: you get all the credit like so it feels like

2264
01:48:08,439 --> 01:48:09,559
Speaker 1: it feels like and there.

2265
01:48:09,640 --> 01:48:12,040
Speaker 2: But but if you're nine and one, like last year,

2266
01:48:12,320 --> 01:48:15,479
Speaker 2: he didn't get any love, all right, none, He didn't

2267
01:48:15,479 --> 01:48:17,519
Speaker 2: finish in the top three, He got no.

2268
01:48:17,600 --> 01:48:18,240
Speaker 3: Love at all.

2269
01:48:18,560 --> 01:48:21,880
Speaker 2: He was he he was they were watch fourteen and

2270
01:48:21,960 --> 01:48:25,479
Speaker 2: three last year, fourteenth three. No one expected him to

2271
01:48:25,479 --> 01:48:29,760
Speaker 2: be like that this year to nine and one and

2272
01:48:29,800 --> 01:48:33,639
Speaker 2: they play first play schedulers. Schedule is ridiculous and all

2273
01:48:33,680 --> 01:48:38,160
Speaker 2: they do is win and and it looks I'm not

2274
01:48:38,160 --> 01:48:42,160
Speaker 2: telling you but deserve it or whatever. The standards already

2275
01:48:42,160 --> 01:48:44,880
Speaker 2: been set. Though it fits his point. Unfortunately, he didn't

2276
01:48:44,920 --> 01:48:45,960
Speaker 2: get that love last year.

2277
01:48:45,960 --> 01:48:48,080
Speaker 5: He's not gonna get it this year if say they

2278
01:48:48,120 --> 01:48:50,600
Speaker 5: went thirteen games instead of fourteen. But it seemed like

2279
01:48:50,600 --> 01:48:52,479
Speaker 5: the Texans come out of nowhere to win a division

2280
01:48:53,000 --> 01:48:53,879
Speaker 5: generally speaking.

2281
01:48:55,280 --> 01:48:57,280
Speaker 3: And I just need to argue it. I need to

2282
01:48:57,400 --> 01:48:58,000
Speaker 3: argue in it.

2283
01:48:58,160 --> 01:49:00,000
Speaker 5: But usually Coach of the Year goes to people who

2284
01:49:00,200 --> 01:49:04,000
Speaker 5: overachieve and category more than Houston.

2285
01:49:04,120 --> 01:49:05,360
Speaker 6: I'm looking at a list last year.

2286
01:49:05,439 --> 01:49:07,800
Speaker 1: Day Bow got it last the year before, vray Bol

2287
01:49:07,840 --> 01:49:11,000
Speaker 1: got it from the Titans, Stefanski before that with the Browns.

2288
01:49:11,680 --> 01:49:13,800
Speaker 2: I'm not going to arguing with it that that's how

2289
01:49:13,840 --> 01:49:16,200
Speaker 2: it is. I'm saying that that's the wrong way of thinking.

2290
01:49:17,280 --> 01:49:19,160
Speaker 1: Well, and part of my point here is if you

2291
01:49:19,200 --> 01:49:22,280
Speaker 1: look at the last several years, Rivera, Garrett McVeagh, Naggy

2292
01:49:22,680 --> 01:49:25,760
Speaker 1: Harball like I don't see the name Andy Reid anywhere here,

2293
01:49:26,240 --> 01:49:29,439
Speaker 1: and consistently for the last several years, and I've said

2294
01:49:29,439 --> 01:49:33,240
Speaker 1: this repeatedly, we talk about mahomes all the time, which

2295
01:49:33,560 --> 01:49:35,559
Speaker 1: is a discredit to the fact that Mahomes is half

2296
01:49:35,600 --> 01:49:38,320
Speaker 1: of a great tag team. Mahomes and Andy Reid together

2297
01:49:38,680 --> 01:49:41,479
Speaker 1: are part of the special sauce here. And there's never

2298
01:49:41,640 --> 01:49:44,040
Speaker 1: it just never feels like there's a consideration for Andy

2299
01:49:44,080 --> 01:49:45,920
Speaker 1: Reid to be coach of the Year. Like once you

2300
01:49:46,120 --> 01:49:48,639
Speaker 1: have once, the outside world looks at it and says,

2301
01:49:48,640 --> 01:49:50,519
Speaker 1: all right, you're on a very good team and you

2302
01:49:50,600 --> 01:49:52,400
Speaker 1: have a very good quarterback. Now, all of a sudden,

2303
01:49:52,400 --> 01:49:55,080
Speaker 1: the coach gets zero credit in the highest Can I

2304
01:49:55,160 --> 01:49:56,080
Speaker 1: make one argument?

2305
01:49:56,160 --> 01:49:56,920
Speaker 3: Agree with it? Though?

2306
01:49:57,000 --> 01:50:01,080
Speaker 2: Could I make one argument? The guy littles both he's

2307
01:50:01,080 --> 01:50:05,640
Speaker 2: in his third year. The guy walls both his coordinators

2308
01:50:06,000 --> 01:50:07,800
Speaker 2: and they haven't missed a beat, and they played a

2309
01:50:07,880 --> 01:50:10,120
Speaker 2: tougher schedule, and his quarterback's been hurt too.

2310
01:50:10,400 --> 01:50:13,040
Speaker 5: I'll tell you this, Anthony, Like, if it comes down

2311
01:50:13,040 --> 01:50:14,280
Speaker 5: to the end of the season and they have a

2312
01:50:14,320 --> 01:50:16,280
Speaker 5: similar record, they are the top seed in the NFC,

2313
01:50:16,400 --> 01:50:18,960
Speaker 5: you will get no complaints from me and argue and

2314
01:50:19,000 --> 01:50:21,479
Speaker 5: that Nick Sirianna should be Coach of the Year. But

2315
01:50:21,720 --> 01:50:23,960
Speaker 5: just living in but just living in reality. I'm just

2316
01:50:24,000 --> 01:50:26,120
Speaker 5: telling you, along with FITZI is just not gonna happen.

2317
01:50:26,200 --> 01:50:28,760
Speaker 2: I know, literally, I get it, and I just want

2318
01:50:28,800 --> 01:50:31,840
Speaker 2: to argue it because I think it's a falsey way

2319
01:50:31,840 --> 01:50:34,679
Speaker 2: of thinking. I just think that's wrong, and it says

2320
01:50:34,760 --> 01:50:37,400
Speaker 2: nothing to do with you know, being from Philadelphia or

2321
01:50:37,400 --> 01:50:39,800
Speaker 2: anything like that. I just watched this guy day in

2322
01:50:39,920 --> 01:50:43,599
Speaker 2: day out and I and I'm mystified how nobody gets

2323
01:50:43,760 --> 01:50:48,840
Speaker 2: no credit whatsoever, no love. He just gets ignored, And

2324
01:50:48,920 --> 01:50:50,200
Speaker 2: I don't understand it.

2325
01:50:51,000 --> 01:50:54,000
Speaker 1: You're right, he is forgotten. I think right now, if

2326
01:50:54,040 --> 01:50:55,760
Speaker 1: you went around and you showed a picture of Nick

2327
01:50:55,800 --> 01:50:59,680
Speaker 1: Sirianni to one hundred die hard NFL fans, how many

2328
01:50:59,720 --> 01:51:02,040
Speaker 1: of them would even realize that's who they're looking at.

2329
01:51:02,080 --> 01:51:03,840
Speaker 1: Like it does feel like there's a little bit of

2330
01:51:03,880 --> 01:51:07,080
Speaker 1: an element of he's forgotten in the conversation, Like the

2331
01:51:07,080 --> 01:51:10,800
Speaker 1: Philly conversation has become all about Jalen Hurts and all

2332
01:51:10,840 --> 01:51:13,280
Speaker 1: about brotherly shove, like that's all anybody wants. Like those

2333
01:51:13,280 --> 01:51:15,559
Speaker 1: are the two things that are gonna get mentioned every

2334
01:51:15,560 --> 01:51:17,960
Speaker 1: time they get talked about in every sports bar, by

2335
01:51:17,960 --> 01:51:20,680
Speaker 1: every fan, and by every show, Like you know, in

2336
01:51:20,760 --> 01:51:22,680
Speaker 1: any debate show where they're yelling at each other, it's

2337
01:51:22,680 --> 01:51:26,360
Speaker 1: gonna be about Jalen Hurts. Sirianni is a is an afterthought.

2338
01:51:26,360 --> 01:51:28,439
Speaker 1: And that's not right. It's just a way that this

2339
01:51:28,520 --> 01:51:30,479
Speaker 1: has all come together for some reason. I can't tell

2340
01:51:30,479 --> 01:51:32,000
Speaker 1: you why, but that just feels like the way it's

2341
01:51:32,040 --> 01:51:32,559
Speaker 1: being covered.

2342
01:51:32,880 --> 01:51:36,320
Speaker 6: Prior to the Thanksgiving football games, the number one person

2343
01:51:36,360 --> 01:51:38,639
Speaker 6: to win NFL Coach of the Year was Dan Campbell.

2344
01:51:38,760 --> 01:51:42,120
Speaker 6: Number two was Demico Ryans, number three was Mike McDaniels,

2345
01:51:42,439 --> 01:51:45,679
Speaker 6: number four was Kevin O'Connell, and number five was Nick Sirianni.

2346
01:51:45,720 --> 01:51:47,439
Speaker 6: And he was coming in at plus sixteen hundred.

2347
01:51:48,840 --> 01:51:53,240
Speaker 4: God well, Dan Campbell twenty six to one to start

2348
01:51:53,240 --> 01:51:53,599
Speaker 4: the year.

2349
01:51:54,760 --> 01:51:58,479
Speaker 6: I mean, so Mike McDaniel, Kevin O'Connell, Demico, and Dan Campbell.

2350
01:51:58,479 --> 01:52:00,160
Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know about Dan Campbell anymore. He's

2351
01:52:00,160 --> 01:52:03,080
Speaker 6: probably after a Thanksgiving game. It's probably not too high up.

2352
01:52:03,120 --> 01:52:04,960
Speaker 6: I have a feeling to Miko, Ryan's probably in front

2353
01:52:04,960 --> 01:52:07,920
Speaker 6: of him. But those four names, what do you feel

2354
01:52:07,960 --> 01:52:10,240
Speaker 6: about him being in front of Nick Sirianni or is

2355
01:52:10,240 --> 01:52:11,880
Speaker 6: it just nicky roany should be in front of them?

2356
01:52:11,920 --> 01:52:15,160
Speaker 3: Listen to Miko, I get like I get to Miko.

2357
01:52:15,560 --> 01:52:17,679
Speaker 2: I mean, I think when you talk about what the

2358
01:52:17,720 --> 01:52:21,320
Speaker 2: Texans have done, ah gee, and if they win, you know,

2359
01:52:21,400 --> 01:52:24,400
Speaker 2: and don't let them beat the Jags. That's even like

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Speaker 2: a bigger deal. Like, so, I think he's got to

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Speaker 2: get a ton of love. But I mean Mike McDaniels,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I'd argue Syrianny over McDaniels.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so Mike McDaniel's plus five hundred.

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01:52:36,560 --> 01:52:40,960
Speaker 2: Oh, I'd argue Syrianny Syrianniel over Campbell, who was the

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Speaker 2: other one.

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Speaker 6: Kevin O'Connell and him are basically tied on some of

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Speaker 6: the side.

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Speaker 3: I'd argue him over O'Connell, and I get it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. O'Connell sort of blew up when the Josh jobs

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Speaker 1: stuff happened and they ever started talking about him translating

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Speaker 1: in dobbs Ere. Then it was like, oh, well that's

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Speaker 1: the sign of a great coach, so he should be

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Speaker 1: coached here, Like we fall in love with that stuf.

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Speaker 1: So he has all the street card.

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Speaker 5: There, Yeah, I mean the general believe from Minnesota for

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01:53:03,880 --> 01:53:06,080
Speaker 5: some people too, even though they still had Kirk Cousins.

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Speaker 5: But this was supposed to be a transition slash rebuild year,

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01:53:08,880 --> 01:53:11,280
Speaker 5: and that lay won all those close games last season.

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01:53:11,320 --> 01:53:13,880
Speaker 5: They weren't supposed to be competitive, and they have been.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if i'd have him high up on

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Speaker 5: the list either, But considering what the expectation was for

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Speaker 5: them for some people, I think that's why he's so

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Speaker 5: high up. They're exceeding the expectation many people had for

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Speaker 5: them coming in.

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Speaker 2: practice today. Oh yuh, we start basketball now, so at

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Speaker 2: I coach. I coach the fifth grade Saint Margaret Margaret squad.

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01:54:54,840 --> 01:54:56,520
Speaker 2: So that's Massimo's team.

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01:54:57,120 --> 01:55:00,680
Speaker 3: So we got our first big practice.

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01:55:01,040 --> 01:55:04,960
Speaker 2: I misread the guys a little bit, so doing tryouts,

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01:55:05,800 --> 01:55:09,040
Speaker 2: I was impressed by some of their long range shooting.

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Speaker 2: So I was like, you know what, I told my

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Speaker 2: assistant coach Kevin, I said, dude, I think what I

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01:55:15,240 --> 01:55:20,160
Speaker 2: think we're ready to play, like to really go up

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01:55:20,240 --> 01:55:25,640
Speaker 2: tempo bomb threes. And I played like a matchup zone defense,

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01:55:26,480 --> 01:55:31,040
Speaker 2: so I was and the kids remember it's so my

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01:55:31,200 --> 01:55:34,760
Speaker 2: zone defense is taro dactyl, So if I called tterodactyl,

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01:55:35,240 --> 01:55:39,280
Speaker 2: we go into this matchup zone. And I was all

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Speaker 2: ready because I thought that they showed some good range.

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01:55:42,640 --> 01:55:45,520
Speaker 2: But then we had our first practice and there was

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01:55:45,600 --> 01:55:47,800
Speaker 2: a lot of bricking going on, so I might have

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01:55:47,880 --> 01:55:53,080
Speaker 2: to rethink my strategy of threes and press.

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Speaker 1: We are we Maybe it was just a bad day though,

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01:55:57,960 --> 01:56:00,480
Speaker 1: Like maybe you know, a shoot or shoot maybe you

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01:56:00,560 --> 01:56:01,960
Speaker 1: just gotta let them shoot out of the rut.

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Speaker 3: Come on, well, no, it's just you know why.

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01:56:04,520 --> 01:56:06,120
Speaker 2: I got a better look at them, and they were

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01:56:06,720 --> 01:56:10,360
Speaker 2: they were lungeon a little bit like.

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01:56:09,320 --> 01:56:12,280
Speaker 3: Like you gotta look when you look at the kids.

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Speaker 2: If you see them lungeon to shoot it, then their

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01:56:17,080 --> 01:56:21,800
Speaker 2: form is off right. So I saw a lot more lungeon,

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01:56:22,920 --> 01:56:25,280
Speaker 2: and you know, they gotta be strong, like this is

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01:56:25,320 --> 01:56:29,280
Speaker 2: a really next year probably is the year where they're

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01:56:29,360 --> 01:56:33,640
Speaker 2: strong enough to shoot, actually shoot with proper form, dunk

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01:56:33,720 --> 01:56:34,480
Speaker 2: the holy water.

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Speaker 1: I love the So do you go with them next year?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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01:56:39,760 --> 01:56:42,600
Speaker 1: Are you just coaching fifth grade this year? Then no?

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01:56:42,680 --> 01:56:46,800
Speaker 3: I go up with them? Was a maso. I rise

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Speaker 3: with mao.

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Speaker 1: Okay, then this is great because that means that all

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01:56:51,040 --> 01:56:53,560
Speaker 1: the foundation, like the past, the work you put in

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01:56:53,640 --> 01:56:56,560
Speaker 1: right now will continue with them. So that big Lan year.

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01:56:56,600 --> 01:57:00,440
Speaker 2: Was my first year coaching, and I had like and

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01:57:00,440 --> 01:57:02,280
Speaker 2: it was a rough. Figure can attest to it. It

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01:57:02,360 --> 01:57:06,720
Speaker 2: was rough at times, uh, because I would complain the

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01:57:06,760 --> 01:57:08,840
Speaker 2: figgy every week about the kids.

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01:57:10,520 --> 01:57:13,520
Speaker 1: Now, what are you doing? It's your own kid though,

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01:57:13,560 --> 01:57:14,320
Speaker 1: like what if?

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01:57:14,520 --> 01:57:18,120
Speaker 2: Like, oh, I'm the hardest on him Okay, okay, Yeah,

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01:57:17,920 --> 01:57:20,880
Speaker 2: I know he's skating bears to brunt because he thinks

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01:57:21,120 --> 01:57:26,600
Speaker 2: so the best is right. He's practicing like full court

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01:57:26,680 --> 01:57:29,640
Speaker 2: three quarter court shots like buzzer beaters.

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01:57:29,680 --> 01:57:32,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, this was the thing last year, fits throwing them

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01:57:32,720 --> 01:57:33,280
Speaker 5: like right.

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01:57:34,040 --> 01:57:38,920
Speaker 2: And I yelled at him and I go, dude, you

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01:57:39,120 --> 01:57:41,960
Speaker 2: only practice shots you're going to make in the game.

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01:57:42,040 --> 01:57:45,400
Speaker 2: You're gonna take in the game. I streamed at him.

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01:57:45,920 --> 01:57:49,960
Speaker 2: Sure enough, don't this little rat bested my son. Doesn't

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01:57:49,960 --> 01:57:54,880
Speaker 2: he make a three quarter court buzzer beater before halftime?

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Speaker 3: And the first thing.

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Speaker 2: Out of his mind was, I thought you said I

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Speaker 2: couldn't make it, daddy?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, just if I shot you a look, you say something, Pop?

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Speaker 4: What position?

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Speaker 6: Is he like a stretch for what we got?

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01:58:10,120 --> 01:58:13,880
Speaker 3: No, he's my point guard. Oh so he's the tallest

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Speaker 3: kid on the tea.

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Speaker 2: He's pretty got good, you got good length, So I

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Speaker 2: make him a point guard.

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Speaker 3: He's my point guard.

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Speaker 2: So I and he's really good defensively, so he's better defensively.

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Speaker 2: I got another kid, a little aj he's a great

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Speaker 2: got a great handle. But I'll make Moss kind of

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Speaker 2: be up top. And then you know it kind of

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01:58:33,200 --> 01:58:36,200
Speaker 2: switched on off with AJ to set up the offense.

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01:58:36,680 --> 01:58:40,680
Speaker 2: And then I got Cooper and Jake and Trevor and

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01:58:40,760 --> 01:58:43,400
Speaker 2: Lincoln that I rotate in my front court.

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Speaker 3: Good little ballplayer.

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Speaker 1: I just love the concept of, like, got a really

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Speaker 1: good leg to plays good defense. He's ten, like, but.

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Speaker 6: I would do the same. I used to coach twelve

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01:58:55,960 --> 01:58:58,400
Speaker 6: year old girl's volleyball and it was a club team,

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01:58:58,480 --> 01:59:00,520
Speaker 6: and I would take it super seriously, like tying them

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01:59:00,600 --> 01:59:02,040
Speaker 6: zone and stuff like that, talking to them. And the

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01:59:02,240 --> 01:59:04,240
Speaker 6: parents are hearing this and they're like, what is going on,

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01:59:04,280 --> 01:59:06,080
Speaker 6: Like they're twelve year olds. This is like for friendships

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01:59:06,120 --> 01:59:08,360
Speaker 6: and stuff like that. And I took it way too seriously.

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Speaker 6: But no, I respect it.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 6: It's it's the coach's guilt.

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Speaker 1: Baby.

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Speaker 4: He's like, you know how you can make friends?

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01:59:12,600 --> 01:59:12,960
Speaker 3: You win?

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Speaker 6: Exactly exactly.

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01:59:18,160 --> 01:59:19,200
Speaker 3: Bobby over here.

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Speaker 6: And they started crying after one of the losses, and

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01:59:22,160 --> 01:59:24,880
Speaker 6: I'm like, oh, yeah, uh huh, you see what's going on?

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Speaker 6: Guys are the worst the winners over here? What do

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Speaker 6: you mean?

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Speaker 3: Today's a monster day, fanci.

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Speaker 2: We got Ohio State Michigan the greatest rivalry in sports.

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Speaker 2: It's still there, dude, Michigan Ohio State. It's the best.

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Speaker 1: What I love about it is when there's nothing on

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02:01:20,680 --> 02:01:23,440
Speaker 1: the line, it's wildly intense. When there's this much on

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02:01:23,480 --> 02:01:26,600
Speaker 1: the line, Like it feels like this is the straight

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02:01:26,680 --> 02:01:30,280
Speaker 1: up Real Housewives equivalent of this rivalry because there is

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02:01:30,360 --> 02:01:34,960
Speaker 1: so much drama on Okay, sign stealing, wanted Harma know

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02:01:35,400 --> 02:01:38,240
Speaker 1: he's not in the game. Did Ohio State hire the

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02:01:38,280 --> 02:01:41,640
Speaker 1: private investigator that got and busted? Like all of these

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02:01:41,760 --> 02:01:46,240
Speaker 1: extra little like Bravo, like, you know, dramatic moments for

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02:01:46,600 --> 02:01:51,040
Speaker 1: a game that has wild National Championship implications. Like I'm

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02:01:51,040 --> 02:01:52,920
Speaker 1: one of those guys that like, at some point in

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Speaker 1: my life, give me Ohio State Michigan for a natty.

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02:01:55,240 --> 02:01:57,960
Speaker 1: I want this. I want I want rivals that hate

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02:01:57,960 --> 02:02:00,360
Speaker 1: each other playing for the National Championship game because it

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02:02:00,480 --> 02:02:02,800
Speaker 1: changes everything. This is about as close as we can

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Speaker 1: get for these two because, as I said earlier, I

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02:02:05,000 --> 02:02:06,680
Speaker 1: think the winner will be number one next week, and

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02:02:06,680 --> 02:02:09,120
Speaker 1: I think the loser's out of the playoff conversation. So

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Speaker 1: you add all of that to the already hatred that

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02:02:13,520 --> 02:02:16,920
Speaker 1: these two fan bases have to each other. This is

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02:02:16,960 --> 02:02:19,040
Speaker 1: going to be the best scene we've seen all year

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02:02:19,080 --> 02:02:21,760
Speaker 1: in college football. This is one of those must watch.

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02:02:22,200 --> 02:02:24,600
Speaker 1: Shut everything else off, put down your phone. You don't

2554
02:02:24,640 --> 02:02:26,480
Speaker 1: need the red zone or any sort of like. You

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02:02:26,480 --> 02:02:28,520
Speaker 1: don't need to watch thirty two games at once against

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02:02:28,520 --> 02:02:31,800
Speaker 1: that's equivalent. Put this game on. Shut everything else off,

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02:02:31,920 --> 02:02:35,080
Speaker 1: eat the popcorn, and watch the drama unfold.

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Speaker 2: Well said, just beautifully said. It's exactly it. This is

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02:02:39,120 --> 02:02:41,480
Speaker 2: like we don't need to go anywhere else. You just

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02:02:41,640 --> 02:02:45,840
Speaker 2: need to watch this game. Let's get back to to

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02:02:45,960 --> 02:02:49,680
Speaker 2: what you guys thinking in matchups. So you would figure

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Speaker 2: both bullish on the buck Eye you go first, VICI.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm bullish on the Buckeyes here. And this has

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Speaker 1: to do with Marvin Harrison Junior and what I think

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02:03:00,440 --> 02:03:02,960
Speaker 1: he can do. If there is a weakness to the

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02:03:03,000 --> 02:03:06,120
Speaker 1: Michigan defense, it's the backside of the defense more so

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02:03:06,200 --> 02:03:08,480
Speaker 1: than the pass rush. So what can they get done

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02:03:09,040 --> 02:03:10,920
Speaker 1: trying to throw the football? I think they have a

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Speaker 1: real shot there. I like their odds. They're also Trevian

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Speaker 1: Henderson coming back and really playing at one hundred percent

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02:03:17,360 --> 02:03:19,680
Speaker 1: last week I think was a big sort of statement

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Speaker 1: to Okay, everything's going to be just fine. Like the

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02:03:21,760 --> 02:03:25,400
Speaker 1: numbers on Michigan and Ohio State both defensively are spectacular.

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02:03:25,520 --> 02:03:28,520
Speaker 1: I don't care about any of that today because neither

2575
02:03:28,560 --> 02:03:30,600
Speaker 1: of these teams have played teams as good as what

2576
02:03:30,640 --> 02:03:33,680
Speaker 1: they're going to face today, but particularly because Ohio State

2577
02:03:33,720 --> 02:03:35,600
Speaker 1: has a couple of ways they can beat you offensively.

2578
02:03:35,880 --> 02:03:37,720
Speaker 1: I really like them here. All the court has to

2579
02:03:37,760 --> 02:03:39,520
Speaker 1: do is not screw this thing up, and you know,

2580
02:03:39,960 --> 02:03:41,720
Speaker 1: if he's able to do that, I really like Ohio

2581
02:03:41,720 --> 02:03:42,760
Speaker 1: State and this football game.

2582
02:03:42,880 --> 02:03:44,840
Speaker 5: Agree and I think, and it's something you brought up

2583
02:03:44,840 --> 02:03:47,800
Speaker 5: earlier in the show, Ohio State just has better big playability.

2584
02:03:47,840 --> 02:03:50,240
Speaker 5: You know, one thing that Michigan had in its back

2585
02:03:50,280 --> 02:03:52,800
Speaker 5: pocket last season, Donovan Edwards had a you know, a

2586
02:03:52,840 --> 02:03:56,680
Speaker 5: humongous game, specifically in this matchup, and he's pretty much

2587
02:03:56,720 --> 02:03:59,040
Speaker 5: been Mia all season long, and it's really just been

2588
02:03:59,080 --> 02:04:01,600
Speaker 5: kind of a death by thousand paper cuts from a Michigan.

2589
02:04:01,600 --> 02:04:03,800
Speaker 5: The way they've won this year just grinds you out.

2590
02:04:03,800 --> 02:04:05,920
Speaker 5: With Blake harm and that has found a way to work.

2591
02:04:06,080 --> 02:04:08,080
Speaker 5: I just think in this game, you're not gonna be

2592
02:04:08,120 --> 02:04:09,440
Speaker 5: able to win that way. You're gonna have to be

2593
02:04:09,440 --> 02:04:12,240
Speaker 5: able to make some plays in just Ohio State along

2594
02:04:12,240 --> 02:04:14,720
Speaker 5: with Marvin Harrison junior, who'd you mentioned with Trayvon Henderson,

2595
02:04:14,720 --> 02:04:16,879
Speaker 5: who is a game breaker, you know, a Mecca Abuka

2596
02:04:16,920 --> 02:04:18,600
Speaker 5: when he's been healthy and he has not been for

2597
02:04:18,640 --> 02:04:20,720
Speaker 5: a lot of the season, is a game breaker. Kate

2598
02:04:20,800 --> 02:04:23,080
Speaker 5: Stover is a chain mover, somebody you're gonna need in

2599
02:04:23,120 --> 02:04:25,080
Speaker 5: a game like this. He's missed some time and has

2600
02:04:25,080 --> 02:04:28,160
Speaker 5: been back recently. I just think from an offensive weapons standpoint,

2601
02:04:28,200 --> 02:04:29,960
Speaker 5: Ohio State has the leg up and I don't think

2602
02:04:29,960 --> 02:04:32,640
Speaker 5: it's such a disadvantage up front. I do think Michigan's

2603
02:04:32,680 --> 02:04:35,840
Speaker 5: defensive line can give the Ohio State offensive line some problems,

2604
02:04:36,080 --> 02:04:39,360
Speaker 5: but I don't think it's an overwhelming, you know, a

2605
02:04:39,400 --> 02:04:41,520
Speaker 5: tip in the cap for from Michigan over Ohio State

2606
02:04:41,560 --> 02:04:43,320
Speaker 5: to where I don't think Ohio State can overcome it.

2607
02:04:43,400 --> 02:04:46,400
Speaker 5: So I think from a skill position standpoint, Ohio State

2608
02:04:46,440 --> 02:04:49,040
Speaker 5: is just so much better from the receiver and running back.

2609
02:04:49,480 --> 02:04:51,960
Speaker 5: The matchup versus the Michigan defense on the back end,

2610
02:04:52,200 --> 02:04:53,920
Speaker 5: and I think the offensive line for Ohio State can

2611
02:04:53,960 --> 02:04:56,520
Speaker 5: hold up decently enough against that Michigan front to where

2612
02:04:56,560 --> 02:04:59,200
Speaker 5: I think Ohio State just outscores him.

2613
02:05:00,120 --> 02:05:02,520
Speaker 2: I gotta tell you forgive me, because I I've been

2614
02:05:02,680 --> 02:05:07,360
Speaker 2: in the middle of the sneezing fit. The point that

2615
02:05:07,520 --> 02:05:13,400
Speaker 2: you made about big play, to me is the best

2616
02:05:13,440 --> 02:05:17,040
Speaker 2: point I've heard, because you're right you guys. You know

2617
02:05:17,040 --> 02:05:19,200
Speaker 2: you talk about the skilled people fits, you talk about

2618
02:05:19,200 --> 02:05:23,560
Speaker 2: the skilled people figure, you talk about the propensity in

2619
02:05:23,600 --> 02:05:26,640
Speaker 2: which they can make the big play, the big chunk play.

2620
02:05:27,480 --> 02:05:31,440
Speaker 2: I don't really fear Michigan in that way. I don't

2621
02:05:31,480 --> 02:05:36,040
Speaker 2: fear that they can hurt me quickly. You said death

2622
02:05:36,040 --> 02:05:37,320
Speaker 2: by a thousand paper cuts.

2623
02:05:37,360 --> 02:05:38,000
Speaker 3: I would agree.

2624
02:05:38,600 --> 02:05:42,960
Speaker 2: Uh, And that's where I think Ohio State's biggest edge lies.

2625
02:05:43,000 --> 02:05:45,080
Speaker 3: Now. I do think Michigan's defense is better.

2626
02:05:45,520 --> 02:05:49,160
Speaker 2: But you know again, I do think you're right when

2627
02:05:49,160 --> 02:05:54,000
Speaker 2: it comes to like the biggest the big play capabilities.

2628
02:05:54,360 --> 02:05:57,640
Speaker 2: So all it takes is, you know, for Marven to

2629
02:05:57,680 --> 02:06:02,320
Speaker 2: get loose beyond his secondary they could strike quick well.

2630
02:06:02,360 --> 02:06:04,320
Speaker 3: I don't know that Michigan could do that.

2631
02:06:05,800 --> 02:06:09,440
Speaker 1: That's the hardest part of keeping this game in check

2632
02:06:09,480 --> 02:06:12,360
Speaker 1: for Michigan because you've got to find that fine balance,

2633
02:06:12,440 --> 02:06:15,840
Speaker 1: right if you put yourself in a hole, how you're

2634
02:06:15,840 --> 02:06:18,480
Speaker 1: digging your way out of it, especially because blakecorm is

2635
02:06:18,480 --> 02:06:20,560
Speaker 1: gonna have to run the football well, but you can't

2636
02:06:20,560 --> 02:06:22,720
Speaker 1: do that if you're suddenly down by two scores. So

2637
02:06:23,240 --> 02:06:25,760
Speaker 1: the game plan for these two teams has to be

2638
02:06:26,320 --> 02:06:29,960
Speaker 1: really different looking. And if you're Michigan, things have to

2639
02:06:30,000 --> 02:06:32,720
Speaker 1: break right. If you're Ohio State and things don't break right,

2640
02:06:33,120 --> 02:06:34,800
Speaker 1: you're built in a way where you can come back.

2641
02:06:34,920 --> 02:06:36,640
Speaker 1: You can score a bunch of points. You could be fine.

2642
02:06:36,720 --> 02:06:39,200
Speaker 1: Like Ohio State can stay calm in this football game,

2643
02:06:39,240 --> 02:06:41,680
Speaker 1: I don't know that Michigan can. Like Michigan's gonna have

2644
02:06:41,720 --> 02:06:43,800
Speaker 1: to come out and really punch them first and then

2645
02:06:43,880 --> 02:06:46,040
Speaker 1: continue to just body blow and try and wear them down,

2646
02:06:46,080 --> 02:06:48,800
Speaker 1: which they did against Penn State in a huge way.

2647
02:06:48,880 --> 02:06:53,800
Speaker 1: Like if Michigan can even bottle up you know, two

2648
02:06:53,880 --> 02:06:56,200
Speaker 1: thirds of what they did against Penn State of just

2649
02:06:56,480 --> 02:06:58,360
Speaker 1: we are going to control the line of scrimmage. If

2650
02:06:58,400 --> 02:07:00,960
Speaker 1: you win the line of scrimmage that way, you usually

2651
02:07:01,000 --> 02:07:04,040
Speaker 1: win a football game. So there is this easy method

2652
02:07:04,040 --> 02:07:05,880
Speaker 1: for Michigan that says, hey, let's do the same thing.

2653
02:07:05,960 --> 02:07:08,400
Speaker 1: Let's run the ball forty times if we have to.

2654
02:07:08,560 --> 02:07:10,960
Speaker 1: I just don't know that you can be one dimensional

2655
02:07:11,000 --> 02:07:12,080
Speaker 1: and beat Ohio State.

2656
02:07:12,200 --> 02:07:13,920
Speaker 5: And by the way, I will say the over under

2657
02:07:14,000 --> 02:07:15,920
Speaker 5: on the game is forty six and a half. I'm

2658
02:07:15,920 --> 02:07:18,640
Speaker 5: probably taking the under, are you.

2659
02:07:18,920 --> 02:07:19,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2660
02:07:19,280 --> 02:07:20,760
Speaker 5: I don't think this is going to be an offense.

2661
02:07:20,960 --> 02:07:22,640
Speaker 5: So this is where I think the difference comes in

2662
02:07:22,640 --> 02:07:25,000
Speaker 5: where you say Ohio State can score explosively. I don't

2663
02:07:25,000 --> 02:07:27,640
Speaker 5: think Ohio States is going to have six, seven, eight

2664
02:07:27,720 --> 02:07:29,560
Speaker 5: chunk plays and be able to score up and down

2665
02:07:29,560 --> 02:07:31,680
Speaker 5: the field. But I do think if it's a nip

2666
02:07:31,720 --> 02:07:33,960
Speaker 5: and tuck game and it's ten to seven, Ohio State

2667
02:07:34,000 --> 02:07:35,960
Speaker 5: has the ability to hit you over the top for

2668
02:07:36,080 --> 02:07:38,040
Speaker 5: that forty five yard or that can change the game.

2669
02:07:38,360 --> 02:07:40,240
Speaker 5: And that's where I give them the advantage. I don't

2670
02:07:40,240 --> 02:07:41,720
Speaker 5: think Ohio State's gonna run them off the field. I

2671
02:07:41,760 --> 02:07:43,720
Speaker 5: don't think either teams and blows the other team out.

2672
02:07:43,720 --> 02:07:46,080
Speaker 5: They're both very good defensively. I think it's going to

2673
02:07:46,080 --> 02:07:48,400
Speaker 5: be a low scoring game. But in a low scoring game,

2674
02:07:48,440 --> 02:07:50,760
Speaker 5: it's the team that has the ability to make that

2675
02:07:50,840 --> 02:07:53,040
Speaker 5: one game changing play that can make the difference. And

2676
02:07:53,080 --> 02:07:55,120
Speaker 5: that's kind of how I see this thing playing out

2677
02:07:55,280 --> 02:07:57,440
Speaker 5: in Fever, Ohio State. So I'm thinking more of like

2678
02:07:57,480 --> 02:07:59,600
Speaker 5: a seventeen to ten sword of situation.

2679
02:08:00,080 --> 02:08:02,400
Speaker 1: But when you say it that way, it makes me

2680
02:08:02,440 --> 02:08:04,640
Speaker 1: think of what we saw last night for Oregon Oregon State,

2681
02:08:04,920 --> 02:08:06,800
Speaker 1: and for anyone that wasn't paying attention to that game,

2682
02:08:06,800 --> 02:08:08,800
Speaker 1: I don't blame me. It's Black Friday, it's late at night.

2683
02:08:09,240 --> 02:08:12,280
Speaker 1: But there was an interesting moment where Oregon State scored

2684
02:08:12,320 --> 02:08:13,800
Speaker 1: with about a minute to go in the first half,

2685
02:08:13,880 --> 02:08:16,200
Speaker 1: made it fourteen to seven, and it looked like all

2686
02:08:16,240 --> 02:08:17,480
Speaker 1: of a sudden we were going to get a game,

2687
02:08:17,520 --> 02:08:20,680
Speaker 1: and Oregon had been dominating, and in that last minute,

2688
02:08:21,320 --> 02:08:25,400
Speaker 1: bo Nix just effortlessly drives Oregon down the field for

2689
02:08:25,480 --> 02:08:27,520
Speaker 1: a touchdown that makes it twenty one to seven, and

2690
02:08:27,600 --> 02:08:30,440
Speaker 1: it was such a backbreaker to whatever Oregon State was

2691
02:08:30,480 --> 02:08:31,960
Speaker 1: going to try and do for the rest of the game.

2692
02:08:32,360 --> 02:08:35,839
Speaker 1: It took all of the air out. There is something

2693
02:08:35,960 --> 02:08:38,320
Speaker 1: in my mind to the ability to be able to

2694
02:08:38,440 --> 02:08:41,280
Speaker 1: just absolutely take the air out of your opponent. And

2695
02:08:41,320 --> 02:08:43,520
Speaker 1: there's two ways you can do that. One is the

2696
02:08:43,520 --> 02:08:45,440
Speaker 1: Penn State method, where you just ran the ball on

2697
02:08:45,520 --> 02:08:47,760
Speaker 1: him a thousand times. They couldn't stop it. That is

2698
02:08:47,800 --> 02:08:49,880
Speaker 1: a way to do that. But the other way is

2699
02:08:49,920 --> 02:08:51,920
Speaker 1: to say, okay, you left me a minute and that's

2700
02:08:51,960 --> 02:08:54,880
Speaker 1: too much time. Ohio State is very much like that.

2701
02:08:54,960 --> 02:08:57,240
Speaker 1: A minute is too much time when they've got the

2702
02:08:57,240 --> 02:08:59,880
Speaker 1: weapons they have. So I think it's interesting how last

2703
02:09:00,160 --> 02:09:01,880
Speaker 1: may have given us, given us a little bit of

2704
02:09:01,880 --> 02:09:04,080
Speaker 1: a you know, taste test to what we might see

2705
02:09:04,120 --> 02:09:06,880
Speaker 1: tonight when it comes to how an explosive offense can

2706
02:09:06,920 --> 02:09:08,320
Speaker 1: absolutely change a game plan.

2707
02:09:10,160 --> 02:09:13,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great point, and it is interesting because

2708
02:09:15,400 --> 02:09:18,680
Speaker 2: the overrun there, like you would be right figgy to

2709
02:09:18,840 --> 02:09:19,440
Speaker 2: lean under.

2710
02:09:19,560 --> 02:09:21,760
Speaker 3: If you look at the way Michigan has.

2711
02:09:21,760 --> 02:09:25,080
Speaker 2: Called the game over the last couple of week, likes

2712
02:09:25,080 --> 02:09:28,760
Speaker 2: they If you look at against Penn State where they

2713
02:09:28,840 --> 02:09:33,560
Speaker 2: were I mean, eight passes all the first half, you know,

2714
02:09:34,280 --> 02:09:38,680
Speaker 2: are they going to allow McCarthy to I think they're

2715
02:09:38,680 --> 02:09:40,880
Speaker 2: gonna have to because if you just allowed a lot

2716
02:09:40,880 --> 02:09:43,440
Speaker 2: of State to crowd the box, I don't know, I

2717
02:09:43,480 --> 02:09:46,680
Speaker 2: don't know how you you You just keep running the football.

2718
02:09:46,720 --> 02:09:50,880
Speaker 2: They did that against Penn State, they ran against you know,

2719
02:09:50,920 --> 02:09:52,880
Speaker 2: an eight and man front and said we're still going

2720
02:09:52,960 --> 02:09:56,840
Speaker 2: to run. They can't do that against Ohio State. If

2721
02:09:56,840 --> 02:09:59,000
Speaker 2: they do, it's a stone under, tell you that much.

2722
02:09:59,080 --> 02:10:00,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I don't think that's going to hit the

2723
02:10:00,520 --> 02:10:03,080
Speaker 5: under because Michigan's gonna take the air out of the

2724
02:10:03,080 --> 02:10:05,360
Speaker 5: ball and have a bunch of long, you know, grueling drives.

2725
02:10:05,400 --> 02:10:07,400
Speaker 5: I mean, look, I think that's obviously the method for

2726
02:10:07,440 --> 02:10:09,320
Speaker 5: them to be able to win. I just think you

2727
02:10:09,360 --> 02:10:13,000
Speaker 5: have two really quality defenses that know these offenses pretty well,

2728
02:10:13,000 --> 02:10:14,600
Speaker 5: and it's just gonna be a nip and tough game.

2729
02:10:14,600 --> 02:10:16,960
Speaker 5: It's not gonna be for lack of Michigan trying to

2730
02:10:17,000 --> 02:10:19,760
Speaker 5: make plays downfield. Knowing that Blake Horn, look, maybe he

2731
02:10:19,800 --> 02:10:21,200
Speaker 5: has a great game. I don't think that he will.

2732
02:10:21,200 --> 02:10:23,280
Speaker 5: I think he's gonna have a tough, a tough, grinded

2733
02:10:23,280 --> 02:10:24,960
Speaker 5: out sort of day and he's They're gonna need something

2734
02:10:24,960 --> 02:10:26,800
Speaker 5: from JJ McCarthy and try to make plays in the

2735
02:10:26,800 --> 02:10:29,040
Speaker 5: passing game. The problem is, I just don't think they'll

2736
02:10:29,080 --> 02:10:30,840
Speaker 5: be able to do it. But I do think they'll

2737
02:10:30,840 --> 02:10:32,800
Speaker 5: do decently enough and hold up. They're into the bargain

2738
02:10:32,840 --> 02:10:34,840
Speaker 5: on defense to kind of hold the Ohio State offense

2739
02:10:34,880 --> 02:10:38,200
Speaker 5: and check, say for a big play or two, which

2740
02:10:38,200 --> 02:10:39,840
Speaker 5: will be the difference. So that that's kind of why

2741
02:10:39,840 --> 02:10:42,520
Speaker 5: I'm seeing, you know, a seventeen to ten twenty to

2742
02:10:42,520 --> 02:10:43,320
Speaker 5: ten sort of final.

2743
02:10:44,320 --> 02:10:48,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good, that's I Lood said. It makes perfect

2744
02:10:48,200 --> 02:10:50,320
Speaker 2: sense to me when you're looking at it. Well, make

2745
02:10:50,360 --> 02:10:54,080
Speaker 2: sure you're listening. Come it up because the big brain

2746
02:10:54,200 --> 02:10:56,960
Speaker 2: on Brad will join us later in the hour.

2747
02:10:57,120 --> 02:10:59,520
Speaker 3: And he's a Michigan grad.

2748
02:11:00,200 --> 02:11:03,760
Speaker 2: And first of all, he's ridiculous when it comes to

2749
02:11:03,800 --> 02:11:04,280
Speaker 2: this stuff.

2750
02:11:04,400 --> 02:11:05,360
Speaker 3: He's got great feel.

2751
02:11:05,440 --> 02:11:09,560
Speaker 2: But he's been nailing this game left and right, like

2752
02:11:09,640 --> 02:11:12,200
Speaker 2: he he was all over Michigan the last two years,

2753
02:11:12,200 --> 02:11:14,880
Speaker 2: like he was all over and had him nailed it.

2754
02:11:15,000 --> 02:11:17,840
Speaker 2: And I'm curious to see how kind of how he

2755
02:11:17,880 --> 02:11:21,680
Speaker 2: looks at this one, because you remember Fig he nailed

2756
02:11:21,800 --> 02:11:24,360
Speaker 2: He's been nailing these these Ohio State Michigan game.

2757
02:11:24,520 --> 02:11:25,640
Speaker 4: He really has no doubt.

2758
02:11:26,200 --> 02:11:28,040
Speaker 3: All right. So let me ask you both guys question

2759
02:11:28,800 --> 02:11:29,800
Speaker 3: the rivalry.

2760
02:11:30,240 --> 02:11:33,440
Speaker 2: Is it clearly the best rivalry all sports right now?

2761
02:11:34,000 --> 02:11:36,680
Speaker 3: Like what is even second? In your eyes?

2762
02:11:36,720 --> 02:11:40,280
Speaker 1: FITZI, Yeah, I don't think there's anything that comes close,

2763
02:11:40,960 --> 02:11:43,160
Speaker 1: you know, And that speaks to how good both teams

2764
02:11:43,160 --> 02:11:44,720
Speaker 1: are right now. It speaks of how much is on

2765
02:11:44,760 --> 02:11:47,280
Speaker 1: the line, but also how much history they have and

2766
02:11:47,400 --> 02:11:49,720
Speaker 1: the fact that we've talked about, like in other sports,

2767
02:11:50,480 --> 02:11:53,440
Speaker 1: how impactful is one game? Even in the NFL, you

2768
02:11:53,480 --> 02:11:56,840
Speaker 1: get your division rivals twice, right, So if you if

2769
02:11:56,840 --> 02:11:59,280
Speaker 1: you are unhappy with the you know, the Raiders play

2770
02:11:59,320 --> 02:12:02,320
Speaker 1: the Chiefs to this this weekend, I'll get them again

2771
02:12:02,360 --> 02:12:04,000
Speaker 1: in a few weeks in a rule my Christmas too,

2772
02:12:04,280 --> 02:12:06,880
Speaker 1: So you know, like it's it's fine, you know, you

2773
02:12:06,920 --> 02:12:08,560
Speaker 1: get used to that, the fact that you get this

2774
02:12:08,640 --> 02:12:11,200
Speaker 1: one game, the fact that coaches are hired and fired

2775
02:12:11,240 --> 02:12:13,880
Speaker 1: based on the ability to win this one game. And

2776
02:12:13,920 --> 02:12:16,440
Speaker 1: I was thinking about this last night watching a little

2777
02:12:16,440 --> 02:12:20,000
Speaker 1: bit of the Penn State Michigan State debacle on TV,

2778
02:12:20,520 --> 02:12:22,880
Speaker 1: just thinking about, like, if you're Michigan State, you don't

2779
02:12:22,880 --> 02:12:26,520
Speaker 1: matter as much as anybody in these rivals. Like nobody's

2780
02:12:26,520 --> 02:12:28,400
Speaker 1: sitting there saying, oh my god, we have to protect

2781
02:12:28,440 --> 02:12:30,840
Speaker 1: the Michigan State rivalry, right, Like there are very few

2782
02:12:31,200 --> 02:12:33,720
Speaker 1: of these sorts of moments in conference realignment and everything

2783
02:12:33,760 --> 02:12:36,280
Speaker 1: that's gone out. So when you look at rivalry week,

2784
02:12:36,320 --> 02:12:39,360
Speaker 1: I mean, the Iron Bowl is always particularly special. I

2785
02:12:39,360 --> 02:12:41,920
Speaker 1: think that there's some you know, plenty of history there too,

2786
02:12:42,320 --> 02:12:46,360
Speaker 1: but you don't have consistently Auburn and Alabama as good

2787
02:12:46,600 --> 02:12:49,640
Speaker 1: as what we've seen lately. So yeah, I think right now,

2788
02:12:49,720 --> 02:12:51,880
Speaker 1: i'd i'd buy the this is the best rivalry and

2789
02:12:51,880 --> 02:12:52,520
Speaker 1: supports argument.

2790
02:12:52,560 --> 02:12:54,240
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, and that's what it is. Fits you know,

2791
02:12:54,280 --> 02:12:56,640
Speaker 5: the Iron Bowl is certainly, you know, a big one,

2792
02:12:56,680 --> 02:12:59,760
Speaker 5: but you Auburn just isn't good enough often enough for

2793
02:12:59,800 --> 02:13:02,800
Speaker 5: it matter that often. I mean, you're constantly Michigan and

2794
02:13:02,840 --> 02:13:05,040
Speaker 5: Ohio State perennially over the last just think over the

2795
02:13:05,120 --> 02:13:07,880
Speaker 5: last twenty years. I mean, this matchup is a top

2796
02:13:07,880 --> 02:13:10,560
Speaker 5: ten matchup, if not a top five matchup, every single

2797
02:13:10,600 --> 02:13:13,879
Speaker 5: solitary year. And that just doesn't happen with any other rivalry.

2798
02:13:14,040 --> 02:13:16,920
Speaker 5: Even going to the professional level. Think of Red Sox Yankees, Well,

2799
02:13:16,960 --> 02:13:18,560
Speaker 5: both of those teams have had ups and downs over

2800
02:13:18,560 --> 02:13:19,320
Speaker 5: the last decade.

2801
02:13:19,520 --> 02:13:21,640
Speaker 4: Even as great as some of those rivalries were, it.

2802
02:13:21,800 --> 02:13:23,760
Speaker 5: Just it just doesn't stand the test of you know,

2803
02:13:23,800 --> 02:13:26,120
Speaker 5: of time like this rivalry has. And to your point,

2804
02:13:26,200 --> 02:13:28,560
Speaker 5: even to both of these teams were average, it's still

2805
02:13:28,600 --> 02:13:30,640
Speaker 5: gonna be one of the marquee matchups of the weekend

2806
02:13:31,200 --> 02:13:34,080
Speaker 5: just because of you know, the alumni bases are so strong,

2807
02:13:34,520 --> 02:13:37,560
Speaker 5: because they have so many great moments throughout their history.

2808
02:13:37,760 --> 02:13:41,200
Speaker 5: It's always an epic matchup. So yeah, I think you

2809
02:13:41,240 --> 02:13:44,000
Speaker 5: can't think of a rivalry that really rivals this at all.

2810
02:13:44,040 --> 02:13:45,320
Speaker 4: This is this is number one for me.

2811
02:13:45,800 --> 02:13:46,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2812
02:13:46,080 --> 02:13:49,760
Speaker 2: I mean look at basketball. I mean the North Carolina

2813
02:13:49,840 --> 02:13:53,240
Speaker 2: Duke thing's over. Yeah, yeah, right.

2814
02:13:53,360 --> 02:13:55,600
Speaker 3: I mean that's nice red socks over.

2815
02:13:56,720 --> 02:13:56,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2816
02:13:57,680 --> 02:13:59,640
Speaker 5: Professionally, I think these kind of go in cycles to

2817
02:13:59,680 --> 02:14:02,520
Speaker 5: a certain degree. It's over for now, yeah yeah. And

2818
02:14:02,520 --> 02:14:05,040
Speaker 5: maybe North Carolina would get a bounce back and turn

2819
02:14:05,080 --> 02:14:07,080
Speaker 5: back into what they were before, but they were kind

2820
02:14:07,080 --> 02:14:09,720
Speaker 5: of going through a minor I guess rebuilt to a

2821
02:14:09,720 --> 02:14:11,400
Speaker 5: certain degree at this point in time. It's just not

2822
02:14:11,800 --> 02:14:14,560
Speaker 5: as special as it had been in the past. But

2823
02:14:14,680 --> 02:14:17,080
Speaker 5: this is again North Carolina and then Duka have had

2824
02:14:17,120 --> 02:14:19,480
Speaker 5: their ups and downs. They've cycled through. They're good that

2825
02:14:19,600 --> 02:14:21,520
Speaker 5: both teams are great for a six year stretch and

2826
02:14:21,560 --> 02:14:23,400
Speaker 5: we have epic matchups and one team is down for

2827
02:14:23,400 --> 02:14:25,720
Speaker 5: ten years and you just haven't had that with Michigan

2828
02:14:25,720 --> 02:14:26,240
Speaker 5: Ohio State.

2829
02:14:26,280 --> 02:14:27,880
Speaker 4: It's always been consistent.

2830
02:14:29,000 --> 02:14:31,880
Speaker 2: And in the NFL, I mean, you still have your rivalries,

2831
02:14:31,920 --> 02:14:36,440
Speaker 2: but you don't have you know, not on that scale.

2832
02:14:36,720 --> 02:14:39,520
Speaker 4: No, no, not with the consistency of it.

2833
02:14:39,680 --> 02:14:41,880
Speaker 5: Rarely in pro sports will you have it because of

2834
02:14:42,120 --> 02:14:44,440
Speaker 5: salary caps and all that, you just don't have sustained

2835
02:14:44,480 --> 02:14:47,080
Speaker 5: success like that for most franchises.

2836
02:14:47,960 --> 02:14:51,560
Speaker 1: In some chapters of the NFL, again chapters, not longevity,

2837
02:14:51,560 --> 02:14:56,400
Speaker 1: but chapters, the best rivalries are actually not your division rivals.

2838
02:14:56,440 --> 02:14:59,080
Speaker 1: Like when we were in that moment where Manning versus

2839
02:14:59,160 --> 02:15:03,040
Speaker 1: Brady was everything and the Patriots Colts game held so

2840
02:15:03,240 --> 02:15:06,280
Speaker 1: much weight and then culture Patriots, you know, Broncos held

2841
02:15:06,320 --> 02:15:08,160
Speaker 1: so much weight to the playoff standings because they were

2842
02:15:08,160 --> 02:15:09,640
Speaker 1: only going to play once and they played every year

2843
02:15:09,680 --> 02:15:12,080
Speaker 1: because they were both in first place. Right, So, like

2844
02:15:12,200 --> 02:15:14,400
Speaker 1: the way the schedule gods worked that out, the fact

2845
02:15:14,440 --> 02:15:16,800
Speaker 1: that we got every year those two quarterbacks playing each

2846
02:15:16,800 --> 02:15:20,360
Speaker 1: other actually created this really unique rivalry where they didn't

2847
02:15:20,360 --> 02:15:22,480
Speaker 1: play twice and it was different and it was a

2848
02:15:22,480 --> 02:15:25,600
Speaker 1: special moment in time. It just doesn't sustain the same way.

2849
02:15:25,680 --> 02:15:28,480
Speaker 1: Like Bears Packers. You know, they could sit there and

2850
02:15:28,480 --> 02:15:31,200
Speaker 1: tell you all day long that that's just this incredible

2851
02:15:31,320 --> 02:15:34,760
Speaker 1: rivalry and it's fine, it's fine, But like, when was

2852
02:15:34,760 --> 02:15:37,720
Speaker 1: the last time that the Bears were consistently part of that? Right? So,

2853
02:15:38,200 --> 02:15:40,400
Speaker 1: like you look at some of the historic rivalries in

2854
02:15:40,440 --> 02:15:43,880
Speaker 1: the NFL, they just fall flat at beared. I don't

2855
02:15:43,920 --> 02:15:45,080
Speaker 1: think it's even close right now.

2856
02:15:45,120 --> 02:15:46,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, or even like in the NBA, if you're talking

2857
02:15:46,960 --> 02:15:49,800
Speaker 5: about interconference or an individual like I mean Lakers Celtics

2858
02:15:49,800 --> 02:15:51,520
Speaker 5: in the eighties, even before that, go back to the

2859
02:15:51,560 --> 02:15:53,920
Speaker 5: seventies and the sixties was great, you know, But those

2860
02:15:53,960 --> 02:15:56,520
Speaker 5: things just they it's impossible for those sorts of things

2861
02:15:56,520 --> 02:16:00,160
Speaker 5: to sustain themselves over the course of time because so

2862
02:16:00,160 --> 02:16:02,280
Speaker 5: many different factors come in and there's too many things

2863
02:16:02,320 --> 02:16:05,200
Speaker 5: that is contingent on what helps Michigan Ohio State is

2864
02:16:05,200 --> 02:16:07,840
Speaker 5: you're guaranteed to play each other every single solitary season

2865
02:16:08,080 --> 02:16:11,200
Speaker 5: within the same conference. That there's just too many variables

2866
02:16:11,200 --> 02:16:12,800
Speaker 5: when it comes to the at the professional ranks for

2867
02:16:12,840 --> 02:16:13,320
Speaker 5: that time.

2868
02:16:13,280 --> 02:16:16,080
Speaker 3: For the most part, those two teams are usually on top.

2869
02:16:15,880 --> 02:16:20,280
Speaker 5: Two correct up there, the standard bearers of their conference

2870
02:16:20,280 --> 02:16:21,560
Speaker 5: and have been for decades.

2871
02:16:22,960 --> 02:16:26,360
Speaker 1: How many coaches will be fired for losing to one team?

2872
02:16:26,440 --> 02:16:26,600
Speaker 3: Right?

2873
02:16:26,960 --> 02:16:29,880
Speaker 1: That tells you everything about this, Like Cooper, you know,

2874
02:16:30,160 --> 02:16:33,440
Speaker 1: as was said earlier, if Ryan Day loses, like if

2875
02:16:33,480 --> 02:16:37,160
Speaker 1: Michigan goes in and just absolutely just rams it down

2876
02:16:37,200 --> 02:16:39,800
Speaker 1: the throat of Ohio State and they have no answer

2877
02:16:39,840 --> 02:16:42,480
Speaker 1: for it. There are by tonight Ohio State fans are

2878
02:16:42,520 --> 02:16:44,640
Speaker 1: going to be screaming for Ryan Day's job, like that's

2879
02:16:44,680 --> 02:16:47,680
Speaker 1: inevitable and that that speaks to this rivalry and what

2880
02:16:47,760 --> 02:16:48,160
Speaker 1: does he have?

2881
02:16:48,360 --> 02:16:51,360
Speaker 5: Was he like forty six and four or whatever his

2882
02:16:51,440 --> 02:16:52,640
Speaker 5: record is at Ohio State.

2883
02:16:53,400 --> 02:16:54,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, and people call it for his job.

2884
02:16:54,879 --> 02:16:56,480
Speaker 5: If he loses again in Michigan, that tells you, the

2885
02:16:56,520 --> 02:16:59,640
Speaker 5: High Press, it's an impossible job.

2886
02:17:00,080 --> 02:17:03,080
Speaker 2: It is all right, Well we'll take quick t o

2887
02:17:03,240 --> 02:17:07,000
Speaker 2: we'll come back. The Big Brain will join us to

2888
02:17:07,080 --> 02:17:10,119
Speaker 2: take a look at the weekend from a betting standpoint.

2889
02:17:10,760 --> 02:17:16,240
Speaker 2: We're the fellas right here on Fox Sports Radio. Ah,

2890
02:17:16,520 --> 02:17:19,520
Speaker 2: welcome back, fellas.

2891
02:17:21,320 --> 02:17:21,960
Speaker 3: Hanging out.

2892
02:17:22,160 --> 02:17:31,600
Speaker 2: Happy Thanksgiving to all, FITZI, Figgie, Cuz, Muddy, Mark Shay

2893
02:17:32,560 --> 02:17:33,960
Speaker 2: and now joining us.

2894
02:17:34,320 --> 02:17:37,440
Speaker 3: Is we know he is dying.

2895
02:17:37,560 --> 02:17:40,280
Speaker 2: I mean we're all wondering his pick and how he

2896
02:17:40,320 --> 02:17:41,320
Speaker 2: looks at this game.

2897
02:17:42,240 --> 02:17:44,080
Speaker 3: He of coursese The.

2898
02:17:43,959 --> 02:17:47,160
Speaker 4: Big Brain on Brad Brad Feinberg.

2899
02:17:48,040 --> 02:17:49,879
Speaker 3: Hello, Bradlee, good.

2900
02:17:49,680 --> 02:17:54,360
Speaker 12: Morning, Good good morning to you too, and go blow.

2901
02:17:55,480 --> 02:17:58,280
Speaker 2: I know you're all fired up, man, I know that

2902
02:17:59,160 --> 02:18:02,240
Speaker 2: hopefully you're tech Thanksgiving. I saw a little video You're

2903
02:18:02,240 --> 02:18:04,000
Speaker 2: in Florida doing your Thanksgiving.

2904
02:18:04,760 --> 02:18:08,039
Speaker 12: No, no, no, no, no, it's you got tricked on that one.

2905
02:18:08,080 --> 02:18:11,400
Speaker 12: It was actually my place in Margate. Ah okay, I

2906
02:18:11,440 --> 02:18:12,480
Speaker 12: called to get together.

2907
02:18:12,560 --> 02:18:17,640
Speaker 2: Remember, yes, yes, yes, yes, that's right.

2908
02:18:17,080 --> 02:18:20,720
Speaker 3: You came up. The beautiful roam of water looks great.

2909
02:18:21,440 --> 02:18:23,120
Speaker 12: Yeah, it was nice. I appreciate it.

2910
02:18:23,160 --> 02:18:26,680
Speaker 2: Pudding all right, Uh, let's get to it. Fell as,

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2916
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Speaker 3: Tell me who you like your squad or the buck Eyes.

2917
02:18:44,680 --> 02:18:46,600
Speaker 12: Where do you look? There's two ways to look at

2918
02:18:46,600 --> 02:18:51,240
Speaker 12: this game, right. You can look at it like Michigan

2919
02:18:51,720 --> 02:18:53,920
Speaker 12: had not played anyone really all year until the Penn

2920
02:18:54,000 --> 02:18:59,200
Speaker 12: State game. And then that's disappointing effort and it's very

2921
02:18:59,200 --> 02:19:03,240
Speaker 12: tough Sandwich. But against Maryland, any of the think that

2922
02:19:03,400 --> 02:19:05,640
Speaker 12: they were kind of a fluke and or you're saying,

2923
02:19:05,680 --> 02:19:09,320
Speaker 12: you know what, this is a team that you know

2924
02:19:09,440 --> 02:19:13,160
Speaker 12: lost their coach has had to make some adjustments. And

2925
02:19:13,240 --> 02:19:15,120
Speaker 12: every team has one if you look at every team,

2926
02:19:15,120 --> 02:19:18,440
Speaker 12: I'm talking Georgia and talking Ohio State. Mean, Ohio State,

2927
02:19:18,520 --> 02:19:21,360
Speaker 12: I watched playing three weeks ago against Rutgers and get

2928
02:19:21,360 --> 02:19:24,240
Speaker 12: out played, So I mean it can't happen. Look, I

2929
02:19:24,320 --> 02:19:27,280
Speaker 12: like Michigan or Anthony. You can find there are some

2930
02:19:27,360 --> 02:19:31,160
Speaker 12: threes out there. I think Michigan and the Finn was

2931
02:19:31,240 --> 02:19:33,920
Speaker 12: just five the look at of mine. It got docks

2932
02:19:33,920 --> 02:19:36,400
Speaker 12: a point and a half to two points because of

2933
02:19:36,440 --> 02:19:39,840
Speaker 12: Michigan's coot performance. Anthony. I do like Michigan, but the

2934
02:19:39,840 --> 02:19:41,560
Speaker 12: player I like better than that. To be honest with

2935
02:19:41,600 --> 02:19:44,720
Speaker 12: the Anthony I love. I've been under forty seven pretty

2936
02:19:44,760 --> 02:19:46,840
Speaker 12: big in this one. I don't know whether there's gonna

2937
02:19:46,840 --> 02:19:49,039
Speaker 12: be forty eight points scored here. I don't. As much

2938
02:19:49,080 --> 02:19:51,360
Speaker 12: as I make fun of Ohio State, they do a

2939
02:19:51,400 --> 02:19:55,119
Speaker 12: really good defense, Anthony, a really good defense. And Michigan

2940
02:19:55,800 --> 02:19:58,040
Speaker 12: ever since Harball stepped aside, I don't know if it's

2941
02:19:58,120 --> 02:20:01,000
Speaker 12: coincidence or fluke. I mean, you saw the Penn State

2942
02:20:01,040 --> 02:20:03,400
Speaker 12: team right where they ran the ball thirty two straight times.

2943
02:20:04,280 --> 02:20:08,080
Speaker 12: We talked about Yeah, I thought that was, by the way,

2944
02:20:08,240 --> 02:20:11,200
Speaker 12: one of the worst. Again, I must be the only

2945
02:20:11,240 --> 02:20:12,920
Speaker 12: person in the world who thinks it, But.

2946
02:20:14,879 --> 02:20:15,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, one of the worst.

2947
02:20:15,840 --> 02:20:20,039
Speaker 12: Coaching things I've ever seen. But look to me, if

2948
02:20:20,080 --> 02:20:22,920
Speaker 12: the again, I don't know, we're either team's gonna it's

2949
02:20:22,920 --> 02:20:25,600
Speaker 12: gonna get You're gonna someone's gonna be a score basically

2950
02:20:25,640 --> 02:20:29,240
Speaker 12: probably uh, you know, twenty close to thirty points of

2951
02:20:29,240 --> 02:20:31,160
Speaker 12: this game to go over. I just don't see either

2952
02:20:31,200 --> 02:20:34,040
Speaker 12: team being having the bandwidth to be able to do that.

2953
02:20:34,440 --> 02:20:37,720
Speaker 12: I don't get why this cil runner is so high.

2954
02:20:38,280 --> 02:20:42,640
Speaker 12: Michigan's been playing incredibly conservative ast me uh, just not

2955
02:20:42,680 --> 02:20:45,560
Speaker 12: wanting to make a mistake. Uh. And if they want

2956
02:20:45,560 --> 02:20:48,000
Speaker 12: to do that against Ohio State, that's fine, but it's

2957
02:20:48,040 --> 02:20:49,560
Speaker 12: you know, I don't think they're just I know they

2958
02:20:50,240 --> 02:20:52,800
Speaker 12: played physical with them last year and they ran the

2959
02:20:52,840 --> 02:20:56,360
Speaker 12: ball up down in Ohio State the entire game. I

2960
02:20:56,440 --> 02:20:58,119
Speaker 12: don't think they're going to be able to do that.

2961
02:20:58,440 --> 02:21:00,720
Speaker 12: I really don't. And I think if they go in

2962
02:21:00,760 --> 02:21:03,840
Speaker 12: with that approach, you know, I think we'll probably be

2963
02:21:03,879 --> 02:21:08,880
Speaker 12: looking at you know, sixteen thirteen, thirteenth ten, you know,

2964
02:21:09,480 --> 02:21:13,000
Speaker 12: twenty thirteen kind of game. Either way, again, I think

2965
02:21:13,080 --> 02:21:15,760
Speaker 12: Michigan comes out on the positive end of it. But again,

2966
02:21:15,800 --> 02:21:16,760
Speaker 12: my favorite play here is.

2967
02:21:16,800 --> 02:21:19,160
Speaker 2: The undergoes all right, well, since you get into him,

2968
02:21:19,200 --> 02:21:21,840
Speaker 2: tell them why you like Ohive State.

2969
02:21:22,480 --> 02:21:24,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, So here's why I like Ohio State a couple

2970
02:21:24,760 --> 02:21:27,200
Speaker 1: of things. And this actually plays to a question I

2971
02:21:27,200 --> 02:21:28,520
Speaker 1: was going to ask you, because if you're taking the

2972
02:21:28,600 --> 02:21:30,800
Speaker 1: under and you feel like Michigan is going to win

2973
02:21:30,840 --> 02:21:34,240
Speaker 1: this game, then you feel confident Michigan can slow down

2974
02:21:34,320 --> 02:21:37,600
Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison Junior, because like I don't. And that's you know,

2975
02:21:37,640 --> 02:21:39,880
Speaker 1: when you start talking about prop action too. It feels

2976
02:21:39,920 --> 02:21:42,720
Speaker 1: like Marvin Harrison Junior is in a good situation against

2977
02:21:42,760 --> 02:21:44,880
Speaker 1: that secondary to be able to play really well and

2978
02:21:44,920 --> 02:21:47,320
Speaker 1: be dynamic and get some points for Ohio State. So

2979
02:21:47,920 --> 02:21:51,240
Speaker 1: are you confident in Michigan against Marvin specifically?

2980
02:21:52,600 --> 02:21:55,959
Speaker 12: Look, Marvin's, obviously, you have to say, the best player

2981
02:21:55,959 --> 02:21:59,160
Speaker 12: on the field. So but I will say this, outside

2982
02:21:59,160 --> 02:22:02,879
Speaker 12: of him, I think Michigan's bettered every other every everywhere else.

2983
02:22:03,360 --> 02:22:08,039
Speaker 12: So like to me, and Ohio State offensively this year,

2984
02:22:09,600 --> 02:22:14,640
Speaker 12: to me, they've been futred. I mean, so while they

2985
02:22:14,680 --> 02:22:19,640
Speaker 12: have a great individual player, in my opinion, taking out

2986
02:22:19,680 --> 02:22:22,600
Speaker 12: a player like that is not as difficult as taking

2987
02:22:22,640 --> 02:22:25,640
Speaker 12: away like a great quarterback. At least in my opinion,

2988
02:22:26,840 --> 02:22:28,720
Speaker 12: I don't think that Ohio State is going to have

2989
02:22:28,760 --> 02:22:31,600
Speaker 12: much success offensively at all. I just don't know. Again,

2990
02:22:32,200 --> 02:22:36,240
Speaker 12: is Harrison a great player? Yes? Is Michigan's secondary potentially questionable? Yeah,

2991
02:22:36,280 --> 02:22:38,280
Speaker 12: that's a fair comment. I'll give you that. That's a

2992
02:22:38,280 --> 02:22:41,320
Speaker 12: fair comment. But I think, like last week, Harrison, I

2993
02:22:41,320 --> 02:22:44,200
Speaker 12: mean Harrison by the way, I mean he's had a

2994
02:22:44,240 --> 02:22:47,560
Speaker 12: couple of games. Three for thirty against Minnesota, four for

2995
02:22:47,640 --> 02:22:51,080
Speaker 12: twenty five against Rutgers, three for thirty against Soderdine. He's

2996
02:22:51,080 --> 02:22:53,200
Speaker 12: had a couple of games. We hasn't been like God,

2997
02:22:53,520 --> 02:22:56,960
Speaker 12: So I don't Again, I'm just saying I don't necessarily

2998
02:22:57,000 --> 02:23:00,720
Speaker 12: think that it's the eleventh Commandment that this guy's gonna

2999
02:23:01,520 --> 02:23:04,200
Speaker 12: we have like a seven one fifty two touchdown virtual

3000
02:23:04,200 --> 02:23:08,520
Speaker 12: ogial performance. So look, we'll see again. I get it,

3001
02:23:08,600 --> 02:23:11,240
Speaker 12: I get why you say that. And that's the pair

3002
02:23:11,320 --> 02:23:14,240
Speaker 12: calmed up Michigan secondary. But again again, my favorite player

3003
02:23:14,280 --> 02:23:16,160
Speaker 12: is the under overall, because even if you look, you

3004
02:23:16,200 --> 02:23:18,120
Speaker 12: could be right on Ohio State. I don't think Ohio

3005
02:23:18,160 --> 02:23:21,320
Speaker 12: States scoring twenty seven points. I really don't. I think

3006
02:23:21,360 --> 02:23:24,200
Speaker 12: this is going to be a low scoring, conservative, safe team.

3007
02:23:24,720 --> 02:23:27,200
Speaker 12: And again, I really I think under is the way

3008
02:23:27,200 --> 02:23:28,879
Speaker 12: to look here, all.

3009
02:23:28,920 --> 02:23:31,520
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3010
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3013
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3014
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3018
02:23:59,400 --> 02:24:01,600
Speaker 3: Let's get you're just a little bit more on this game.

3019
02:24:02,400 --> 02:24:05,680
Speaker 2: And by the way, the Big Brain with us and

3020
02:24:05,760 --> 02:24:10,520
Speaker 2: the Big Brain is four hundred and seventeen and three

3021
02:24:10,680 --> 02:24:11,800
Speaker 2: hundred and seven.

3022
02:24:12,440 --> 02:24:15,400
Speaker 3: That's up over seventy units.

3023
02:24:15,840 --> 02:24:19,640
Speaker 2: I mean ridiculous, and you could follow his plays.

3024
02:24:20,080 --> 02:24:22,360
Speaker 3: Reach him out. How do people reach you, Big Brain?

3025
02:24:22,959 --> 02:24:28,840
Speaker 12: You go on my Twitter site Brads Chloral Brads bet again, Anthony. Look,

3026
02:24:29,080 --> 02:24:31,440
Speaker 12: I'm not a brat. You know me pretty well. I'm

3027
02:24:31,440 --> 02:24:33,800
Speaker 12: not a bragging person. But again, I don't know anyone.

3028
02:24:34,120 --> 02:24:36,520
Speaker 12: I don't know anyone who's up. This is by the way,

3029
02:24:36,560 --> 02:24:38,959
Speaker 12: this is not me betting like five units to games

3030
02:24:38,959 --> 02:24:41,400
Speaker 12: and pad some records, so you know I'm betting one

3031
02:24:41,440 --> 02:24:44,560
Speaker 12: unit of game here sometimes a half unit. Okay, I've

3032
02:24:44,600 --> 02:24:46,520
Speaker 12: not been anything more than one unit, and I'm up

3033
02:24:46,600 --> 02:24:48,520
Speaker 12: seventy units. So if you're betting one thousand dollars a

3034
02:24:48,520 --> 02:24:50,040
Speaker 12: game to be up seventy grand one hundred dollars a

3035
02:24:50,080 --> 02:24:53,240
Speaker 12: game to be up seven brands, that's pretty impressive. Plus, Anthony,

3036
02:24:53,520 --> 02:24:56,560
Speaker 12: I had my biggest play on a one unit play,

3037
02:24:56,600 --> 02:24:58,320
Speaker 12: but it was ten and went on to Orlando Magic

3038
02:24:58,680 --> 02:25:01,520
Speaker 12: to win their group. Okay, getting tender ones, they're in

3039
02:25:01,600 --> 02:25:03,480
Speaker 12: great position to win the group and they're playing that

3040
02:25:03,600 --> 02:25:07,920
Speaker 12: playing in that tournament. They just probably about a eighty

3041
02:25:07,920 --> 02:25:10,360
Speaker 12: percent fever. I have another chance to make another ten

3042
02:25:10,440 --> 02:25:13,000
Speaker 12: units from the Magic winning the group. Them and Oksey

3043
02:25:13,040 --> 02:25:15,160
Speaker 12: where my two sleeper teams this year, having to win

3044
02:25:15,160 --> 02:25:18,040
Speaker 12: the division at Mathabods two both teams in first place

3045
02:25:18,040 --> 02:25:20,200
Speaker 12: as we speak this. You get all my futures too,

3046
02:25:20,200 --> 02:25:22,800
Speaker 12: You get everything at me, and again, I've been winning

3047
02:25:22,840 --> 02:25:24,280
Speaker 12: it an insane rate.

3048
02:25:24,920 --> 02:25:28,040
Speaker 2: That's yes, you have a right real quick because uh Figgi,

3049
02:25:28,280 --> 02:25:31,360
Speaker 2: you brought up you like Ohio State two and figure

3050
02:25:31,400 --> 02:25:36,080
Speaker 2: brought up some interesting about Kyle McCord and the fact

3051
02:25:36,080 --> 02:25:37,039
Speaker 2: that mile that.

3052
02:25:37,080 --> 02:25:41,320
Speaker 3: Kyle McCord's playing much better? Do you fear it? All

3053
02:25:41,800 --> 02:25:43,160
Speaker 3: sounds like you have no fear.

3054
02:25:42,920 --> 02:25:46,600
Speaker 2: Of the offense, even though you got you know, Henderson,

3055
02:25:47,400 --> 02:25:49,920
Speaker 2: you got a Buka, you got McCord.

3056
02:25:51,440 --> 02:25:53,600
Speaker 3: Kind of how do you looking at that offense like that?

3057
02:25:54,879 --> 02:25:57,520
Speaker 12: Again, the McCord has played better, I'll give him that.

3058
02:25:57,640 --> 02:26:00,520
Speaker 12: Like I he definitely has. But I I think he's

3059
02:26:00,920 --> 02:26:03,480
Speaker 12: a decent quarterback. I mean that's exact what.

3060
02:26:04,080 --> 02:26:04,320
Speaker 3: I think.

3061
02:26:04,320 --> 02:26:07,720
Speaker 12: He's decent. But I think McCarthy is definitely the better

3062
02:26:07,760 --> 02:26:11,120
Speaker 12: quarterback of the two. And look Michigan's defense to me,

3063
02:26:11,200 --> 02:26:14,680
Speaker 12: Anthony again now last week against Maryland, but by the way,

3064
02:26:14,720 --> 02:26:16,840
Speaker 12: Maryland was one of those to me, sneaky cold teams

3065
02:26:16,840 --> 02:26:19,720
Speaker 12: that did have the ability to play decent on offense,

3066
02:26:19,760 --> 02:26:24,000
Speaker 12: and they did last week. But no, again I'm sticking.

3067
02:26:23,520 --> 02:26:26,920
Speaker 12: I'm not saying. I mean, I've watched Ohio State probably

3068
02:26:26,959 --> 02:26:28,880
Speaker 12: play eight games this year. I've watched Michigan play every

3069
02:26:28,920 --> 02:26:30,400
Speaker 12: one of their games. I think it's to be a

3070
02:26:30,400 --> 02:26:32,200
Speaker 12: close game. Let's make it clear. I don't think Michigan

3071
02:26:32,240 --> 02:26:34,120
Speaker 12: is gonna route in this team. I do not think

3072
02:26:34,200 --> 02:26:36,080
Speaker 12: that at all. I think it's going to be a

3073
02:26:36,120 --> 02:26:39,680
Speaker 12: close game. I say Michigan wins a one score game,

3074
02:26:39,720 --> 02:26:41,959
Speaker 12: but you can shop and find threes. But again, my

3075
02:26:42,000 --> 02:26:44,600
Speaker 12: favorite bets not Michigan. I want to test this again.

3076
02:26:44,959 --> 02:26:48,040
Speaker 12: I like the under. I think both offenses are going

3077
02:26:48,080 --> 02:26:50,800
Speaker 12: to struggle, including Michigan's by the way, So again, I

3078
02:26:50,840 --> 02:26:52,280
Speaker 12: think it's gonna be a low scoring game. And yeah,

3079
02:26:52,280 --> 02:26:53,959
Speaker 12: I think Michigan has obsessed against the court.

3080
02:26:56,200 --> 02:26:59,600
Speaker 2: Anybody else you like today college?

3081
02:26:59,480 --> 02:27:03,000
Speaker 12: Ye, A couple of names, Anthony. I like Iowa State.

3082
02:27:03,040 --> 02:27:04,880
Speaker 12: You can get ten and a half against Kansas State.

3083
02:27:08,840 --> 02:27:11,560
Speaker 12: They're playing the Iowa State has really turned around their

3084
02:27:11,640 --> 02:27:14,960
Speaker 12: season quite nicely. Now Kansas State has played well, no question,

3085
02:27:15,040 --> 02:27:17,440
Speaker 12: but I think they can a little bit too much

3086
02:27:17,480 --> 02:27:20,760
Speaker 12: love here, Anthony, and I think that, uh, I think

3087
02:27:20,840 --> 02:27:25,280
Speaker 12: Iowa State can keep that game close. Washing l s

3088
02:27:25,400 --> 02:27:27,959
Speaker 12: U against Texa A and M Anthony looked the whole

3089
02:27:28,000 --> 02:27:29,840
Speaker 12: Jimbo Fisher thing. I think they made the right call.

3090
02:27:29,920 --> 02:27:32,680
Speaker 12: But I think that maybe in a little bit of turmoil,

3091
02:27:32,760 --> 02:27:36,920
Speaker 12: so to speak, LSU. I think playing for the heisman.

3092
02:27:37,360 --> 02:27:39,320
Speaker 12: I don't think there's any chance, but I think they're

3093
02:27:39,320 --> 02:27:42,640
Speaker 12: gonna try to play for the Heysman for Jayden. I

3094
02:27:42,720 --> 02:27:44,879
Speaker 12: like Alison to route them. I do I think that

3095
02:27:45,000 --> 02:27:47,560
Speaker 12: line's a little bit, it's expensive, it's twelve and a half,

3096
02:27:47,560 --> 02:27:50,280
Speaker 12: and I think they would make game by two touchdowns plucks,

3097
02:27:50,360 --> 02:27:52,480
Speaker 12: and I did, and I was wrong. Last week Anthony

3098
02:27:53,680 --> 02:27:56,480
Speaker 12: Washington did it again into me. I don't think this

3099
02:27:56,600 --> 02:27:58,200
Speaker 12: is a good team. I mean, are very good. I

3100
02:27:58,240 --> 02:28:01,280
Speaker 12: think they keep getting very fortunate. Then I'll take a

3101
02:28:01,320 --> 02:28:03,400
Speaker 12: chance at Washington State and keep the moment in two

3102
02:28:03,440 --> 02:28:05,000
Speaker 12: touchdown taking the fifteen and a half.

3103
02:28:05,560 --> 02:28:07,800
Speaker 3: Wow, wow fud see.

3104
02:28:08,640 --> 02:28:10,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think it's curious. And I did

3105
02:28:10,520 --> 02:28:12,840
Speaker 1: want to ask you just a general philosophy for everybody

3106
02:28:13,040 --> 02:28:15,840
Speaker 1: on rivalry week? Do you does it impact at all

3107
02:28:16,200 --> 02:28:18,280
Speaker 1: how you look at these games? Because so many people

3108
02:28:18,320 --> 02:28:20,720
Speaker 1: right now are putting oh yeah, games that they love,

3109
02:28:20,800 --> 02:28:22,720
Speaker 1: But like, how does it just impact you when you

3110
02:28:22,760 --> 02:28:23,720
Speaker 1: know it's a rivalry?

3111
02:28:24,240 --> 02:28:27,160
Speaker 12: Well, no, it's it's exactly right, look rivalry. I would

3112
02:28:27,160 --> 02:28:30,200
Speaker 12: say more so if I'm taking a favorite in rivalry week,

3113
02:28:30,280 --> 02:28:33,879
Speaker 12: especially like for example, let's say Alabama Auburn, that line's right,

3114
02:28:34,240 --> 02:28:38,480
Speaker 12: you know, thirteen or fourteen area and no matter what

3115
02:28:38,720 --> 02:28:41,360
Speaker 12: look in towering wise, not Auburn for fours. That's what

3116
02:28:41,400 --> 02:28:43,240
Speaker 12: you're missing. Wow, al they was just so much better

3117
02:28:43,760 --> 02:28:45,720
Speaker 12: you know, the members may just say Alabama, but then

3118
02:28:45,760 --> 02:28:48,760
Speaker 12: you just say its Alabama Auburn. You most you're gonna

3119
02:28:48,760 --> 02:28:50,360
Speaker 12: like you're gonna lay that ton of points you have

3120
02:28:50,440 --> 02:28:54,360
Speaker 12: to there. I say positive that you feel incredibly good

3121
02:28:54,360 --> 02:28:56,880
Speaker 12: about it because these games just it's just a different

3122
02:28:56,920 --> 02:29:00,160
Speaker 12: an anthony, I know, it's just a different different world

3123
02:29:00,680 --> 02:29:03,520
Speaker 12: when when it is rivalry reach, it just is everything

3124
02:29:03,600 --> 02:29:06,560
Speaker 12: is It's almost like you're playing like this is a

3125
02:29:06,640 --> 02:29:10,280
Speaker 12: one game season. The previous eleven games don't mean anything,

3126
02:29:10,440 --> 02:29:13,240
Speaker 12: but we're putting everything on this one game. So yeah,

3127
02:29:13,240 --> 02:29:16,879
Speaker 12: I'm much more app to take underdogs in rivalry leeks

3128
02:29:16,879 --> 02:29:19,600
Speaker 12: than I am favorites, just because again, the emotion, that's

3129
02:29:19,640 --> 02:29:21,840
Speaker 12: what you notice the fowl games a lot of times,

3130
02:29:22,840 --> 02:29:25,160
Speaker 12: a lot of these underdogs will cover because again it's

3131
02:29:25,560 --> 02:29:28,240
Speaker 12: it's just the bigger the game and it things are

3132
02:29:28,600 --> 02:29:30,520
Speaker 12: the home town, the bands you've taken away in some

3133
02:29:30,560 --> 02:29:34,199
Speaker 12: of these things, and the emotion is both.

3134
02:29:34,000 --> 02:29:35,040
Speaker 3: Teams are up for the game.

3135
02:29:35,120 --> 02:29:37,920
Speaker 12: The underdog usually usually favorites the underdogs quite frankly.

3136
02:29:39,959 --> 02:29:41,400
Speaker 3: So let's look at the NFL.

3137
02:29:41,560 --> 02:29:47,600
Speaker 2: Brother, I mean, this is the best game is Eagles

3138
02:29:47,600 --> 02:29:51,640
Speaker 2: and Bills. It is the line. Let me ask because

3139
02:29:51,680 --> 02:29:53,720
Speaker 2: it smells like a Buffalo line to me.

3140
02:29:54,360 --> 02:29:56,640
Speaker 12: Yeah, the line, the line is short, and my look,

3141
02:29:56,680 --> 02:30:00,320
Speaker 12: I you know, it's funny because everyone just kind of won. Now,

3142
02:30:00,360 --> 02:30:02,440
Speaker 12: I think the Eagles anthy. I don't want to hurt

3143
02:30:02,440 --> 02:30:06,600
Speaker 12: your feelings here. Again, I can't call them fake. That

3144
02:30:06,600 --> 02:30:08,800
Speaker 12: would not be a fair comment. That really wouldn't be.

3145
02:30:09,280 --> 02:30:10,000
Speaker 3: But I think.

3146
02:30:09,840 --> 02:30:14,960
Speaker 12: They've been extremely fortunate. I'll leave it at that. I mean,

3147
02:30:15,000 --> 02:30:17,360
Speaker 12: I'm talking like, if people are talking about this team

3148
02:30:17,360 --> 02:30:20,520
Speaker 12: at heart, listen for them. Just get lucky in the games.

3149
02:30:20,760 --> 02:30:24,000
Speaker 12: I mean that Chiefs game was a confluential luck that

3150
02:30:24,080 --> 02:30:26,520
Speaker 12: I haven't seen in a long time. I mean, I

3151
02:30:26,560 --> 02:30:28,960
Speaker 12: mean the luck Kelsey fumbles at the five yard line,

3152
02:30:29,200 --> 02:30:32,640
Speaker 12: Holmes interception in the end zone, MBS drops the ball

3153
02:30:32,680 --> 02:30:37,280
Speaker 12: that like my son would catch blindfolded. So like it

3154
02:30:37,480 --> 02:30:39,760
Speaker 12: just it took a million lucky things for them to

3155
02:30:39,760 --> 02:30:41,480
Speaker 12: go their way and they won. I give them credit

3156
02:30:41,680 --> 02:30:44,600
Speaker 12: the Dallas game. They get lucky. I mean, I just

3157
02:30:44,640 --> 02:30:46,720
Speaker 12: don't know how many times they can keep getting away

3158
02:30:46,760 --> 02:30:49,160
Speaker 12: with this. But I do think they're better than Buffalo.

3159
02:30:49,360 --> 02:30:51,160
Speaker 12: I just think they're the better team. And I think

3160
02:30:51,200 --> 02:30:53,320
Speaker 12: the flying is short length three. I think that they're

3161
02:30:54,240 --> 02:30:57,720
Speaker 12: docking the Eagles for having a couple fortunate wins. Maybe

3162
02:30:57,760 --> 02:30:59,440
Speaker 12: a little bit too much. The only way I can

3163
02:30:59,480 --> 02:31:03,680
Speaker 12: look at Soadelphia, Anthony, I did bet Josh Allen over

3164
02:31:03,720 --> 02:31:06,000
Speaker 12: one of they have touchdowns. He goes over that about

3165
02:31:06,080 --> 02:31:08,680
Speaker 12: seventy two percent of the time after the last three years.

3166
02:31:08,879 --> 02:31:11,280
Speaker 12: I do think Josh Allen gets the two passing touchdowns.

3167
02:31:11,520 --> 02:31:13,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the secondary back end.

3168
02:31:13,879 --> 02:31:19,200
Speaker 12: I agree, yes, exactly, but I lean here Philadelphia. I

3169
02:31:19,240 --> 02:31:22,680
Speaker 12: could not back Buffalo, especially naval line three. No interest

3170
02:31:22,720 --> 02:31:24,480
Speaker 12: in all back in them. Only said I could look

3171
02:31:24,480 --> 02:31:26,400
Speaker 12: at it. Still, I think the line should be closer

3172
02:31:26,440 --> 02:31:27,320
Speaker 12: to three and a half or four.

3173
02:31:27,400 --> 02:31:29,879
Speaker 1: To be honest, what do you do with the Steelers

3174
02:31:29,959 --> 02:31:32,440
Speaker 1: Bengos matchup new offensive corporator on one side of the

3175
02:31:32,440 --> 02:31:34,240
Speaker 1: ball and a backup quarterback on the other.

3176
02:31:35,360 --> 02:31:37,800
Speaker 12: Yeah, I bet Pittsburgh langon one. It's up to two.

3177
02:31:38,640 --> 02:31:41,039
Speaker 12: Only way I think you can look is the Pittsburgh's side,

3178
02:31:41,560 --> 02:31:44,120
Speaker 12: and look, I'll be honest. One of the reasons my

3179
02:31:44,160 --> 02:31:47,280
Speaker 12: biggest prop of the year last week, and I want it,

3180
02:31:47,320 --> 02:31:50,360
Speaker 12: but geez, I always think process of result was Jalen

3181
02:31:50,440 --> 02:31:54,120
Speaker 12: Warren got over thirty four yards over fifty yards over

3182
02:31:54,160 --> 02:31:56,560
Speaker 12: seventy yards, over eighty yards, over sixty yards, or nine

3183
02:31:56,640 --> 02:31:59,120
Speaker 12: yards over one hundyards. I went eight and I won

3184
02:31:59,200 --> 02:32:02,080
Speaker 12: them all. But here's the thing. He only got nine carries,

3185
02:32:02,480 --> 02:32:06,560
Speaker 12: and I thought for sure the Jaalen Warren was going

3186
02:32:06,600 --> 02:32:09,280
Speaker 12: to get at least fifteen carries. He's their best player.

3187
02:32:09,760 --> 02:32:12,320
Speaker 12: And I'm just like, Okay, they finally started in the

3188
02:32:12,360 --> 02:32:15,000
Speaker 12: week before. I'm hoping the new office Accuardy are really

3189
02:32:15,040 --> 02:32:17,920
Speaker 12: just they have a started running back. Yeah, the biggest semaker,

3190
02:32:18,320 --> 02:32:21,199
Speaker 12: and they keep It's like it's like there's like a

3191
02:32:21,360 --> 02:32:24,600
Speaker 12: they're stuck in when guys get drafted in the first round,

3192
02:32:24,640 --> 02:32:27,120
Speaker 12: I feel like there's like a stigma. And because Nagy

3193
02:32:27,240 --> 02:32:30,600
Speaker 12: was the first round pick from Alabama and Warren was not,

3194
02:32:31,400 --> 02:32:34,560
Speaker 12: they just they continue to ride Naugy. One guy averages

3195
02:32:34,600 --> 02:32:36,080
Speaker 12: five and a half yards to carry. Their guy have

3196
02:32:36,200 --> 02:32:37,160
Speaker 12: just three and a halfs.

3197
02:32:37,280 --> 02:32:41,480
Speaker 2: So but listen, I feel like it's like Pollared, it's Pollared,

3198
02:32:41,600 --> 02:32:42,720
Speaker 2: Zeke from last.

3199
02:32:42,520 --> 02:32:44,960
Speaker 12: Year's powered zink from last year, A great call by you,

3200
02:32:45,040 --> 02:32:47,000
Speaker 12: it's exactly yeah, I think that's exactly what it is.

3201
02:32:47,000 --> 02:32:49,440
Speaker 12: That's it's exactly what it is. But they don't like

3202
02:32:49,520 --> 02:32:53,000
Speaker 12: to look here look, Browning looked okay. I'll give him that.

3203
02:32:53,120 --> 02:32:57,240
Speaker 12: On Monday night, he really did look okay. But what

3204
02:32:57,320 --> 02:32:59,800
Speaker 12: does Pittsburgh do. They seem to just win these games.

3205
02:32:59,879 --> 02:33:01,880
Speaker 12: I mean, yeah, they lost this week to a very

3206
02:33:01,920 --> 02:33:06,119
Speaker 12: tough Cleveland team, but it basically picked them kind of environment.

3207
02:33:06,360 --> 02:33:09,680
Speaker 12: I'm just gonna I'm gonna ride the offensive coordinator change.

3208
02:33:09,920 --> 02:33:11,959
Speaker 12: I don't know how it could possibly be a bad

3209
02:33:12,320 --> 02:33:15,560
Speaker 12: I know how, not having T Higgins and Joe Burrow.

3210
02:33:16,280 --> 02:33:19,080
Speaker 12: I say, Pittsburgh does this typical Pittsburgh thing and win

3211
02:33:19,080 --> 02:33:19,640
Speaker 12: a close game.

3212
02:33:20,520 --> 02:33:22,640
Speaker 3: I like it. I like it. That's good stuff.

3213
02:33:22,640 --> 02:33:25,240
Speaker 2: All right, Well, big brain, I know where are you

3214
02:33:25,280 --> 02:33:26,800
Speaker 2: going to be watching the game at? This is like

3215
02:33:26,800 --> 02:33:28,280
Speaker 2: a monster game for you.

3216
02:33:28,920 --> 02:33:32,040
Speaker 12: Yeah, it is, it is. I'm here in beautiful Margit.

3217
02:33:32,160 --> 02:33:36,080
Speaker 12: I'm watching the game here. I will not be disturbed

3218
02:33:36,120 --> 02:33:40,200
Speaker 12: during the game. And uh, Anthony, if Michigan loses, I'll

3219
02:33:40,240 --> 02:33:41,200
Speaker 12: speak in a few years.

3220
02:33:44,160 --> 02:33:46,400
Speaker 4: Well I'll text you doing a gay line.

3221
02:33:46,400 --> 02:33:46,640
Speaker 1: Brother.

3222
02:33:46,640 --> 02:33:47,280
Speaker 3: Good luck to you.

3223
02:33:47,840 --> 02:33:50,360
Speaker 12: All right, Well, thank you so so much. Good luck.

3224
02:33:51,120 --> 02:33:55,080
Speaker 2: Enjoy your weekend. I'll day we'll come back and wrap

3225
02:33:55,120 --> 02:33:58,959
Speaker 2: it up. The fellas hanging on Fox Sports Radio.

3226
02:34:00,560 --> 02:34:02,480
Speaker 1: Whoa a.

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Speaker 2: Little Rick James Tina Marie. You gotta love it, uh, fellas.

3228
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Speaker 3: We should.

3229
02:34:11,920 --> 02:34:16,280
Speaker 2: You guys are very very happy Thanksgiving weekend, the rest

3230
02:34:16,280 --> 02:34:21,400
Speaker 2: of it. Fitzie, Jason Fitz I'm Anthony Gargana cause Kevin

3231
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Speaker 2: Figures Figgie.

3232
02:34:24,240 --> 02:34:27,760
Speaker 3: Our boys producing this thing. Shay Mighty Mark.

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Speaker 3: All right, guys, we always do our weekend.

3241
02:35:00,120 --> 02:35:02,959
Speaker 2: We're watching and kind of what we're going to be

3242
02:35:03,000 --> 02:35:05,240
Speaker 2: doing for the rest of the weekend. So Shay, I'll

3243
02:35:05,240 --> 02:35:08,240
Speaker 2: start with you. What are you watching and with your

3244
02:35:08,280 --> 02:35:10,760
Speaker 2: plans you got cooking the rest of the weekend.

3245
02:35:10,840 --> 02:35:15,080
Speaker 6: So I'm saying farewell to the PAC twelve. It's pretty emotional,

3246
02:35:15,200 --> 02:35:16,120
Speaker 6: pretty sad about it.

3247
02:35:16,680 --> 02:35:19,800
Speaker 3: I went figging. It's figging you were figking hugging out

3248
02:35:19,879 --> 02:35:20,640
Speaker 3: or what right.

3249
02:35:20,560 --> 02:35:21,080
Speaker 4: There with them.

3250
02:35:21,080 --> 02:35:22,920
Speaker 6: We're looking at each other.

3251
02:35:23,720 --> 02:35:25,840
Speaker 1: Still got the PAC twelve chick, Yeah, but I mean

3252
02:35:25,920 --> 02:35:29,600
Speaker 1: it's the lastful last week, and you know it's a

3253
02:35:29,800 --> 02:35:32,400
Speaker 1: su the rivalries Oregon Oregon State.

3254
02:35:32,600 --> 02:35:35,360
Speaker 6: I mean that was yesterday, but it's still like it's

3255
02:35:35,400 --> 02:35:38,480
Speaker 6: it's it's different, you know, it's it's it's I'm emotional

3256
02:35:38,480 --> 02:35:40,360
Speaker 6: and I keep seeing things on TikTok about it, and

3257
02:35:40,360 --> 02:35:42,400
Speaker 6: I'm like, like, I didn't even care this much about

3258
02:35:42,440 --> 02:35:44,039
Speaker 6: the PAC twelve like last year, I don't think, but

3259
02:35:44,120 --> 02:35:46,280
Speaker 6: now it's like I don't know, it's it's stricken, and

3260
02:35:46,400 --> 02:35:49,960
Speaker 6: it's stricken like a chord with me and of an Era. Yeah, seriously, seriously,

3261
02:35:50,120 --> 02:35:51,920
Speaker 6: But what am I doing this week? I'm having fun,

3262
02:35:52,240 --> 02:35:54,680
Speaker 6: having fun, doing some work. We got some stuff. We

3263
02:35:54,720 --> 02:35:56,640
Speaker 6: got the Yo Kid podcast, we got we got a

3264
02:35:56,680 --> 02:35:58,880
Speaker 6: ton of things coming out. So I'm excited for all that.

3265
02:35:59,560 --> 02:36:02,080
Speaker 3: I like it. I like it. Mighty Mark, What do

3266
02:36:02,160 --> 02:36:03,920
Speaker 3: you got cooking? Buddy? What are you watching?

3267
02:36:04,320 --> 02:36:06,600
Speaker 8: I'll make sure I find out the results of the

3268
02:36:06,760 --> 02:36:09,400
Speaker 8: Iron Bowl, see what's going on with that and whatever?

3269
02:36:09,800 --> 02:36:10,000
Speaker 4: You know?

3270
02:36:10,200 --> 02:36:11,720
Speaker 8: Holiday movie might be up?

3271
02:36:12,480 --> 02:36:14,879
Speaker 3: What do you what do you have? You watched anything yet?

3272
02:36:15,920 --> 02:36:17,240
Speaker 6: I don't know if it's a holiday movie.

3273
02:36:17,280 --> 02:36:19,280
Speaker 8: But I did see The Wizard of Oz was on

3274
02:36:19,400 --> 02:36:20,440
Speaker 8: last week, I guess in the.

3275
02:36:20,400 --> 02:36:22,080
Speaker 6: Beginning of Thanksgiving, So you know.

3276
02:36:22,600 --> 02:36:27,279
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, I like it. Did you wear yelling leftovers? Leftover? Still?

3277
02:36:28,000 --> 02:36:28,720
Speaker 1: Uh?

3278
02:36:29,480 --> 02:36:33,440
Speaker 8: Shay gave me a boatload of leftover, so I'll be

3279
02:36:33,680 --> 02:36:34,240
Speaker 8: chomping out.

3280
02:36:34,360 --> 02:36:37,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, look at that. You're a good man, Shay, Shay.

3281
02:36:37,040 --> 02:36:38,000
Speaker 1: Look at that team.

3282
02:36:39,560 --> 02:36:42,560
Speaker 2: Come on, that's it. That's it, FITZI, what do you

3283
02:36:42,600 --> 02:36:44,520
Speaker 2: got going? I love it because you were at the

3284
02:36:44,520 --> 02:36:51,000
Speaker 2: casino on Thaggs. Look what's casino? Where are you at Foxwood's.

3285
02:36:52,600 --> 02:36:54,880
Speaker 1: I'm a Fox Foods guy over Mohegan up there and

3286
02:36:55,000 --> 02:36:58,080
Speaker 1: uh yeah, I look, I think I need the detox

3287
02:36:58,120 --> 02:37:00,240
Speaker 1: for a few days. I've I've learned that about myself,

3288
02:37:00,280 --> 02:37:02,680
Speaker 1: so I can me drink a lot of water trying to.

3289
02:37:04,080 --> 02:37:07,120
Speaker 1: I think a two day hangover is about where I

3290
02:37:07,160 --> 02:37:10,080
Speaker 1: was with it. So good And by the way, for

3291
02:37:10,680 --> 02:37:14,600
Speaker 1: all you Christmas movie officionados, twenty four hours of Elf

3292
02:37:14,680 --> 02:37:18,600
Speaker 1: has already started right now on TBS, so really on

3293
02:37:18,720 --> 02:37:20,119
Speaker 1: in the background of the entire games.

3294
02:37:20,200 --> 02:37:21,840
Speaker 3: Ah, that's a great one.

3295
02:37:21,920 --> 02:37:24,600
Speaker 1: It's on in the background. So but as for what

3296
02:37:24,760 --> 02:37:28,800
Speaker 1: games to watch. So there's an interesting NFL's look. I know,

3297
02:37:28,840 --> 02:37:29,960
Speaker 1: we all know the game is going to be the

3298
02:37:29,959 --> 02:37:32,360
Speaker 1: big answer here, and I would love to tell you

3299
02:37:32,400 --> 02:37:34,240
Speaker 1: that Raiders Chiefs was going to be the thing that

3300
02:37:34,800 --> 02:37:36,840
Speaker 1: I'm clamoring to look forward to. I'll watch it, but

3301
02:37:37,320 --> 02:37:40,080
Speaker 1: the thing that I'm looking forward to is Jags Texans.

3302
02:37:40,120 --> 02:37:43,200
Speaker 3: I mean it is for two spot on man.

3303
02:37:43,920 --> 02:37:47,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, If the Texans win this game, they have the

3304
02:37:47,080 --> 02:37:49,840
Speaker 1: tiebreaker over the Jags and they would currently be the

3305
02:37:49,959 --> 02:37:53,240
Speaker 1: three seed in the AFC in the playoffs. Like, that's

3306
02:37:53,280 --> 02:37:55,280
Speaker 1: how much is on the line for this Let's not

3307
02:37:55,280 --> 02:37:58,160
Speaker 1: get it twisted. If the playoffs started today, Buffalo is

3308
02:37:58,200 --> 02:38:01,280
Speaker 1: not in it and Houston is right So that just

3309
02:38:01,320 --> 02:38:04,120
Speaker 1: told you where the Texans are right now. So you

3310
02:38:04,200 --> 02:38:06,320
Speaker 1: know that game, to me is a big prooven game

3311
02:38:06,360 --> 02:38:08,560
Speaker 1: for both sides. I love every ounce of that one.

3312
02:38:08,959 --> 02:38:11,560
Speaker 1: I'm genuinely pumped for Jags Texans, can't believe us?

3313
02:38:11,640 --> 02:38:12,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, me too.

3314
02:38:12,280 --> 02:38:18,520
Speaker 2: I can't wait Stroud against Lawrence. Damn, that's pretty good. Now,

3315
02:38:18,520 --> 02:38:20,320
Speaker 2: that's gonna be a lot of fun. Figgy, what do

3316
02:38:20,320 --> 02:38:22,160
Speaker 2: you watch? What are you doing this weekends? And that's

3317
02:38:22,200 --> 02:38:24,080
Speaker 2: that one right from me, FITZI I'm right there with you.

3318
02:38:24,120 --> 02:38:25,560
Speaker 2: As far as Jack's Texans.

3319
02:38:25,600 --> 02:38:28,080
Speaker 5: I have a close eye on the Stay's last stand

3320
02:38:28,120 --> 02:38:30,240
Speaker 5: on Sunday night, the Ravens taking on the Charges.

3321
02:38:30,280 --> 02:38:30,800
Speaker 4: That's so far.

3322
02:38:31,200 --> 02:38:32,760
Speaker 5: I think if the Ravens go in there and put

3323
02:38:32,879 --> 02:38:34,360
Speaker 5: put a hurting on the Chargers, that could be the

3324
02:38:34,440 --> 02:38:35,400
Speaker 5: end of Brandon Staley.

3325
02:38:35,560 --> 02:38:36,240
Speaker 4: So we'll see.

3326
02:38:36,760 --> 02:38:41,160
Speaker 2: How about him stand? I got him snapping at the reporter.

3327
02:38:41,160 --> 02:38:42,760
Speaker 2: If I was a reporter, I'd be like, dude, what

3328
02:38:42,760 --> 02:38:44,280
Speaker 2: are you freaking serious.

3329
02:38:44,320 --> 02:38:46,400
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna stop asking the question. It's my job.

3330
02:38:46,800 --> 02:38:51,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you own the team, give me a break.

3331
02:38:52,879 --> 02:38:57,000
Speaker 3: You're horrible. You're still horrible. Color. Oh god, he annoys

3332
02:38:57,080 --> 02:38:58,000
Speaker 3: me more than anybody.

3333
02:38:59,560 --> 02:39:01,400
Speaker 4: They don't win this, I think he could be done.

3334
02:39:01,800 --> 02:39:03,879
Speaker 1: Follow up question, can you look at your boss and

3335
02:39:03,920 --> 02:39:05,680
Speaker 1: say you're worth the money annually?

3336
02:39:08,080 --> 02:39:10,040
Speaker 2: All right, well that's good to do for us. Listen,

3337
02:39:10,120 --> 02:39:12,880
Speaker 2: everybody enjoyed the big game today. We love you guys.

3338
02:39:13,200 --> 02:39:14,119
Speaker 2: We'll see you next week.