Speaker 1: All the media. Okay, so this is definitely not your problem.
Speaker 1: But apparently the floor is leaking in the studio, so
Speaker 1: you see the mess behind me if you're looking, creates
Speaker 1: more crates of records, shout out DJ Effecto and Tita
Speaker 1: Helen and boxes everywhere, and a whole lot of fun,
Speaker 1: which means that you'll have to part in the brevity
Speaker 1: of this episode because of the things I just told you,
Speaker 1: which kind of kills the vibe of like what I
Speaker 1: wanted the theme of this word, which was like, well
Speaker 1: I need not n ain't age for a long time.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to check in. Let's check in and
Speaker 1: I tap in here We good politics, y'all? All right,
Speaker 1: so I am going to drag the hummy right now.
Speaker 1: DJ Molski, who is off top produced we are the
Speaker 1: culture produced the people EP of Friends since nineteen ninety five,
Speaker 1: That's how long I've known DJ Moski, a pillar out
Speaker 1: here in LA a true friend, a real brother, my
Speaker 1: real friend. Like a lot of times in the industry,
Speaker 1: you don't have like real friends, but I have found
Speaker 1: you have friends that are text friends, voice memo friends,
Speaker 1: FaceTime friends. Whereas in the sense of how they insist
Speaker 1: on communicating with you, right. Coffee black the homie Bartholomew
Speaker 1: we had on here. I'll make coffee black again from Memphis.
Speaker 1: He's a FaceTime friend. The boy call you on FaceTime
Speaker 1: and then put it to his ear so you looking
Speaker 1: at the side of his head. He just preferred to
Speaker 1: talk to you on face tide. That's just the way
Speaker 1: he prefer to talk to you, which is fine. It's
Speaker 1: just so funny. Moskie is I'm going to call you.
Speaker 1: Moskie's a phone call friend. He may respond to a text,
Speaker 1: but he a phone call friend. Now, it's always a
Speaker 1: good call. You just have to make sure you got
Speaker 1: about two hours. He always understands that, like if you
Speaker 1: gotta go, if you like, oh, bro, I got like
Speaker 1: ten minutes, or if you're like, hey, I gotta slide,
Speaker 1: I gotta let me call you back. He's never like,
Speaker 1: oh man, I just wanted to like He's always like,
Speaker 1: all right, no big deal. He doesn't take it personal.
Speaker 1: He just prefers to talk to you real connections. I
Speaker 1: love it. But he'll talk to you for two hours
Speaker 1: and then and the way that black people talk to me, like, well,
Speaker 1: I ain't need nothing, man, I'll just just thinking about you,
Speaker 1: praying for you, you know, tell the family I love him,
Speaker 1: Like just think we've been talking for two hours. What
Speaker 1: you mean you ain't. It is a Black tradition, and
Speaker 1: you just catch up on everything, you know, how the kids,
Speaker 1: what you're working on. And then with Moskie, it's a
Speaker 1: lot of like some of the schemes he working up
Speaker 1: in his music in his career. He gonna pick your brain.
Speaker 1: He gonna tell you the idea. He gonna tell you
Speaker 1: what the Lord showed him. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That's my dog man. But yeah, he a phone call
Speaker 1: friend and shout out Bartholo of you'll copy black. He
Speaker 1: he'll face time in voice memo, he'd be like Ganggang.
Speaker 1: He'll leave a thirty twenty not thirty. Let me not,
Speaker 1: let me not drag him out like that. It'd be
Speaker 1: like a five minute voice memo. I'm like, my dude,
Speaker 1: you just you just recorded a podcast for me right now,
Speaker 1: Like I'm not gonna sit down here and listen to
Speaker 1: this podcast. Give me the cliff notes. I figured on
Speaker 1: them because they my friends, Like these people are truly
Speaker 1: my friends. But it is a African American tradition to
Speaker 1: get you on the phone for two hours and then say,
Speaker 1: I ain't need nothing, so I'm about to hold y'all
Speaker 1: and just shoot the breeze with you about playing catch
Speaker 1: up with the news on some things that actually truly
Speaker 1: take more attention than this. That's the hard part about
Speaker 1: the era that we're in right now. So much happens
Speaker 1: so fast, And one of the feedbacks we got at
Speaker 1: the end of last year, at the end of last
Speaker 1: season was like, sometimes the stuff when I finally get
Speaker 1: to it, it be dated. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Because I tried to, Like I've said it before, I
Speaker 1: tried to bank episodes so that I'm not like stressing
Speaker 1: out on Monday. Where a situation like this, which is
Speaker 1: the floor's leaking, that I could have had some shows
Speaker 1: in the bank it would not have to worry about it.
Speaker 1: But you know what, that is just not the case
Speaker 1: right now. And not only that, ian Ian's on vacation
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 2: I can't even ask the producer because the Sneakers on vacation.
Speaker 1: And let me tell you so, I broke as hell.
Speaker 1: I cannot afford to fix this plumbing issue that I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have to investigate after I'm dead. Recording this, so
Speaker 1: bear with a Jeordia Patreon, send me a thousand dollars
Speaker 1: it cuts.
Speaker 2: Oh shit, Oh we can't afford this. I'll just keep
Speaker 2: it real, y'all. All right, anyway, but at least bombs
Speaker 2: are not being thrown across the border. But at least
Speaker 2: the police didn't murder my eighteen year old son and
Speaker 2: out of a fiddle rage, I didn't take a cops life.
Speaker 1: At least that didn't happen to me. Let's get into
Speaker 1: a hood politics, y'all. All right, India and Pakistan Pakistan.
Speaker 1: A bomb was tossed across the border in an area
Speaker 1: called Kashmir. Now here's the issue with Kashmir. You know,
Speaker 1: Kansas City has like is in two states. You got
Speaker 1: Kansas City, Missouri and Kansas City, Kansas KCMO. How you like?
Speaker 1: And you got to ask somebody from Kansas City, like
Speaker 1: which part of Kansas City KKKCMO. Okay, now imagine that.
Speaker 1: But their sectarian, tribal, ethnic religion and political violence. Now
Speaker 1: you're in Kashmir. Two sides. India and Pakistan both claimed Kashmir.
Speaker 1: The next question should be India, Pakistan Kashmir. What do
Speaker 1: they have to do with each other. Aren't they just
Speaker 1: nations right next to each other enjoying peaceful lives. Who know,
Speaker 1: here's your first lesson or here's another lesson in the
Speaker 1: continuing saga of no one liking colonizers, specifically the Brits.
Speaker 1: I am about to give you the most underwhelming, shortest,
Speaker 1: do not give it justice history at this moment right now,
Speaker 1: Like it's so bad, it's so bare minimum that is
Speaker 1: almost embarrassing. I just need to catch all up right now.
Speaker 1: A long time ago, Britain colonized India. Why nigga tea
Speaker 1: and spices, Because if you've tasted British food, them tea
Speaker 1: and them spices is the best thing that could have
Speaker 1: happened in Britain. Now, there is a precursor to that,
Speaker 1: which was the East India Trading cod which actually came
Speaker 1: from the Dutch, but we're not talking about that right now,
Speaker 1: which was probably the first multi national international conglomerate that
Speaker 1: really did damage to a local population. But that's the
Speaker 1: East India Trading Code for which I'm pretty sure there
Speaker 1: is a behind the Bastards episode on. But that's not
Speaker 1: what we're talking about. We're talking about Britain. Now, when
Speaker 1: Britain left, now here's where you should be, like, hits
Speaker 1: history kind of rymet because the separations of Israel, carving
Speaker 1: a nation out of an existing nation called Palestine. You
Speaker 1: know when that happened, when the British left, Because again
Speaker 1: say it with me, now, no one likes colonizers. There
Speaker 1: was this thing called the partition, which was a fancy
Speaker 1: way of saying I'm going to draw an arbitrary line
Speaker 1: across this part of the ground and I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: y'all Pakistan and y'all India. So the border between India
Speaker 1: and Pakistan completely made up. That was called the partition. Now,
Speaker 1: in that process, as they both gained independence from the UK, millions.
Speaker 3: Died.
Speaker 1: Now why did they die, Well, you just broke up infrastructure.
Speaker 1: Because if just think about this, if somebody just make
Speaker 1: up a line and draw it through your neighborhood, you
Speaker 1: may not have access to water, no mo because now
Speaker 1: the municipality that took care of the electricity and water
Speaker 1: in your neighborhood is in another country. Homie, you telling
Speaker 1: me the Trader Joe's. I need to get a passport
Speaker 1: to go to Trader Joe's. Cuz like it, that's this,
Speaker 1: This is what I'm trying to say, Like it just
Speaker 1: caused an unbelievable amount of chaos. So there's this mass killing,
Speaker 1: great disruption, people going back and forth between borders, trying
Speaker 1: to figure out what's going on and eventually what kind
Speaker 1: of how the thing kind of like when the dust settled,
Speaker 1: you have Pakistan being mostly Muslim. Okay, now again I
Speaker 1: am doing a horrible disservice. These people are Pashte like
Speaker 1: this is Pashtun like mostly Muslim in India being mostly Hindu.
Speaker 1: Now you fast forward to what's going on right now
Speaker 1: with these far right Hindu nationalists who are out here
Speaker 1: mess around and like trying to commit some like ethnic
Speaker 1: cleansings against the Muslim population inside of India. Because again
Speaker 1: borders are made up. People believe different things. But when
Speaker 1: you get this nativist nationalist type vibe a lot of
Speaker 1: times that again unfortunately is developed in response to or
Speaker 1: in connection to colonizers and imperialists, you start you start
Speaker 1: believing the hype that they put on you. And this
Speaker 1: isn't a disk to my Indian brothers and sisters, because
Speaker 1: we do it here all the time. Just like I
Speaker 1: told y'all. Last week, black people, we often find our
Speaker 1: affinity to where them slave ships dropped us off rather
Speaker 1: than where we got on the boat. We looking at
Speaker 1: Central and South American black people talking about they different,
Speaker 1: they just got off the boat earlier. What I'm trying
Speaker 1: to say is no one's exempt from this. Okay. What
Speaker 1: you gotta do is stay woke and remember that a
Speaker 1: lot of this sectarian violence, that is not necessarily tribal,
Speaker 1: that is not necessarily cultural, is a product of imperialistic supremacy. Anyway, MODI,
Speaker 1: who is probably I kind of don't know how to
Speaker 1: say this, except that he's probably the most effective dictator
Speaker 1: we've seen in our time. Like I know, last week
Speaker 1: I talked about information circles, and I did get a
Speaker 1: few people inside of my my I'm in sections saying
Speaker 1: I got the story all wrong about Bukina Fasso. Which
Speaker 1: you might be right. One man's freedom fighter is another
Speaker 1: man's terrorist. You might be right. Nobody's a monolith. There
Speaker 1: is no place on earth that's a monolith. You might
Speaker 1: be right. I might be hearing a whole lot of
Speaker 1: a Wagner group of propaganda put out from them. You
Speaker 1: might be right. I ain't there, and you can't trust
Speaker 1: nothing coming out of a coming out of Russia's mouth.
Speaker 1: I know that I trust my people though, That's the
Speaker 1: thing anyway, with my own eyes. Okay, we're watching Hindu nationalists,
Speaker 1: a bunch of like militant groups like be Hella, violent
Speaker 1: towards the Muslim population inside of India. There is a true, real,
Speaker 1: real situation going on down there. Modi is definitely looking
Speaker 1: away right now as far as the violence, the sectarian
Speaker 1: violence that's happening in India, because he kind of wit
Speaker 1: the shits. But let's set that to a side for
Speaker 1: a second now. So the partition happened, We're going back
Speaker 1: to that. The partition happened. Guess what August fourteenth, nineteen
Speaker 1: forty seven. You understand that that's like barely a year
Speaker 1: and a half after the design has landed in Israel.
Speaker 1: Just I just don't understand why the British just just
Speaker 1: no one likes no one likes a colonizer. Anyway, let's
Speaker 1: get to what's happening right now. So every year since then,
Speaker 1: there's always been squirmishes. They both sides have extremist groups
Speaker 1: like not let's not act like one of y'all is
Speaker 1: as victims. Both sides have extremist groups. They've been tossing
Speaker 1: things back and forth for a while. Matter of fact,
Speaker 1: it's a known story that like to this day, is
Speaker 1: armed military right at the border right now and has
Speaker 1: been four years ready to see who ready to pop off? Right,
Speaker 1: So that's kind of what it's been going on for
Speaker 1: a long time. But the most contentious spot, like I said,
Speaker 1: is this area called Kashmir. Right, nobody can agree who
Speaker 1: really run Kashmir. So they both kind of say they
Speaker 1: both run Kashmir, which is kind of what's happening in
Speaker 1: Libya right now. There's two governments in Libya. I just listen,
Speaker 1: the world is stranger than fiction. So so Pakistan essentially,
Speaker 1: like I said, put themselves as the defenders of the
Speaker 1: Muslims of India, right because, like I said, there's this
Speaker 1: nativist movement happening in India where they feel like they're
Speaker 1: the suffering ones. Now that being said, it's not like
Speaker 1: Pakistan are some boy scouts because when they broke off
Speaker 1: Each Pakistan to form Bangladesh. Oh, I don't know if
Speaker 1: you knew that that Bangladesh was East Pakistan. Right, they
Speaker 1: are going through also gross human atrocities towards a few
Speaker 1: of their resistance movements. Understand that everywhere in the world
Speaker 1: where there's repressive regimes, there's resistance movements happening. So your
Speaker 1: stance if I should make you have a stance, which
Speaker 1: I can't, but if I were to make you have
Speaker 1: a stance, it'd be like your stance should be the
Speaker 1: stance that my father taught me. Solidarity was suffering people everywhere.
Speaker 1: So if you find somebody resisting suffering, find somebody standing
Speaker 1: up for the week, I'm telling you right now, I'm
Speaker 1: on the side you had that. Now that being said,
Speaker 1: just like last week, all y'all ain't freedom fighters. Kashmir
Speaker 1: is so contentious. At some point, somebody's gonna fall back,
Speaker 1: somebody's gonna pop up, somebody's militia groups are gonna be happening,
Speaker 1: And like anywhere else in the world, sometimes the government,
Speaker 1: especially repressive regimes, will toss some bread at a few
Speaker 1: of these resistance movements to kind of like let you
Speaker 1: all be the problem, kind of like Iran, right, Iran
Speaker 1: with like Hesbuala and the Huthi's like, let me just
Speaker 1: toss all some bread and y'all do the dirty work.
Speaker 1: Ain't nothing new under the sun. So that's been happening
Speaker 1: for a long time. Like so many people have died
Speaker 1: over the last thirty years trying to get this stuff
Speaker 1: figured out. But like I said, a lot of that
Speaker 1: was concentrated in Kashmir. It's one of the most militarized
Speaker 1: cities on the planet. It's not dope, Okay, all leading
Speaker 1: up to last week, Okay, I just skipped so much.
Speaker 1: All right, I'm just trying to catch you all up
Speaker 1: because Trump out here talking about Oh. I told him
Speaker 1: to stop, so they stopped. Bruh, you haven't spoken to anyone.
Speaker 1: You're gonna jump into Oh, so you're gonna handle this
Speaker 1: the way you handled the Russia Ukraine War. How you
Speaker 1: was like, I'm finna fix this in the day. Oh,
Speaker 1: You're finna fix this. Uh, Israel and Jumas, You're finna
Speaker 1: fix it in the day. Mister. You know you got
Speaker 1: it right now, you finish step into this one, my nigga.
Speaker 1: So finally, now, on April twenty second, it was about
Speaker 1: twenty six people were killed by a militant attack on
Speaker 1: tourists in India's Kashmir. Right now, there's no at this point,
Speaker 1: there's no like actual evidence that the Pakistani government has
Speaker 1: provided behind this. A few militant groups have claimed it,
Speaker 1: have said like, yeah, this is what we did. Now.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. Here's where it gets real crazy. Is
Speaker 1: they saying this is our get back. We just getting
Speaker 1: our get back for what India did us. And when
Speaker 1: India responded. Here's what's funny. India responded and they they
Speaker 1: gave us a tag no hit backs. We're not trying
Speaker 1: to escalate the guys. We're just trying to get our
Speaker 1: get back from your get back. Well, I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: back from the get back of yo get back. Listen,
Speaker 1: this how wars happened, y'all. So if this is the
Speaker 1: first time you heard of any of this stuff, okay,
Speaker 1: first of all, you should be unbelievably surprised that only
Speaker 1: twenty four people die. That should be the first thing
Speaker 1: you thinking. We talk about one of the most densely
Speaker 1: populated locations on the planet. This why this is so scary, Well,
Speaker 1: it should be scary because Nigga is war. I just
Speaker 1: like it just is war. This should be a problem already, right.
Speaker 1: But secondly, because both these niggas got nukes all right, Now,
Speaker 1: Dan ain't got forty five of them. But you don't
Speaker 1: need forty five nukes, you need one, right, and again
Speaker 1: borders are made up. Okay, there's no force field. If
Speaker 1: you trust a nuke at Pakistan, India dies. Okay, if
Speaker 1: Pakistan tosses a nuke at India, Pakistan dies. Do y'all like,
Speaker 1: this is why nobody's thrown a nuke Cause I think
Speaker 1: we all get you can't. Really, there's no no one
Speaker 1: wins nuclear ward. I can't believe. I gotta say nobody
Speaker 1: wins nuclear war. Guys, nobody wins now right now? Little
Speaker 1: known groups Routerers has a great article on it. Little
Speaker 1: known groups, these like small little like what we would
Speaker 1: call starter gangs, have been claiming the responsibilities for all
Speaker 1: these like relatively speaking squirmishes. But you have to remember
Speaker 1: again this goes all the way back to nineteen forty seven. Okay,
Speaker 1: And this is coupled with again, Kashmir is super isolated.
Speaker 1: They cut off like it's hard to get reports out
Speaker 1: of Kashmir. Right. Modi again is a bona fide dictator right,
Speaker 1: and is doing his best to push out Muslim populations
Speaker 1: and Pakistan. You can't pretend like you're a victim. Okay.
Speaker 1: This one of them very few moments where truly, truly
Speaker 1: you could say there are no clear good sides on
Speaker 1: this except for the people inside of both of these
Speaker 1: nations who are like, this is a y'all problem. Oh man.
Speaker 1: This the best way to understand this was I was
Speaker 1: at the Scratch Bastard Bastard picnic this past weekend. Shout
Speaker 1: out Scratch Bastard led me a rocker verse. It's one
Speaker 1: of the doput DJs. I he's probably he's the he's
Speaker 1: the best DJ I know. And that's hard for me
Speaker 1: to say, okay, because I know the legends. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: that guy's good at what he does. Okay, so let
Speaker 1: me let me fall back. He's good at what he does. Now,
Speaker 1: while we were there, I'll talk at some of the
Speaker 1: hummies about why a lot of us got out of
Speaker 1: gang banging. Now, for me, graffiti saved my life. But
Speaker 1: there was an era when taggers were starting to become
Speaker 1: tag bangers, and then eventually it just became gangs. Okay,
Speaker 1: But then there was these things that we used to
Speaker 1: call like sort of like starter gangs, which were like
Speaker 1: kind of like when you're in junior high or high
Speaker 1: school and you're really not ready to shoot nobody, but
Speaker 1: you down the squad right and you got your beefs
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, but you throw parties make money.
Speaker 1: It's like, but you're not really own the hood, right. Anyway,
Speaker 1: he was talking back and forth about stuff like that,
Speaker 1: and there was like there are times that I know,
Speaker 1: for me, I just like putting all the violences. I
Speaker 1: just couldn't keep up with the cheesemn Like I don't
Speaker 1: know who we beefing with now, I really ain't got
Speaker 1: no problem. And a lot of times the beef be
Speaker 1: happening because one of the OG's just had his girls
Speaker 1: stolen by somebody from that other neighborhood that we really
Speaker 1: ain't got no problem with. But all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: now we mad at him. And it's really just because
Speaker 1: the girl chose that dude. Now he are op. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, y'all lost in a dice game.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about when we was like little little You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, You lost the dice game. You
Speaker 1: feel me? You feel like you got disrespected at some
Speaker 1: party that I just happened to be at. My grandma house.
Speaker 1: So I didn't go to that party, So I missed that, right,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, we mad at Wan Carlo. Now we
Speaker 1: was in the same head, start like, I have no
Speaker 1: problem with Wan Carlo. None of us really have no
Speaker 1: issue with nobody over there. But now that you do,
Speaker 1: now that y'all got problem, we got problems. Hell. I
Speaker 1: was in a rap beef like that where I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't I don't got no problems with them. That's
Speaker 1: y'all's problem. There are hundreds of thousands of people in
Speaker 1: Pakistan and India that feel like that. That being said,
Speaker 1: you can't have a movement without some people, without some extremists.
Speaker 1: So at the end of the day, listen, Nope, no
Speaker 1: one's exempt. Nobody likes colonizers. There's kind of no good
Speaker 1: guys in this right and let us pray that they
Speaker 1: figured this out, okay, because I don't know if we
Speaker 1: could have another like back to back to back to
Speaker 1: back to back type beef that we've had. I just
Speaker 1: did you a very underwhelming catch up to what's happening. Now,
Speaker 1: let's talk about the man that hit a cop with
Speaker 1: his car next. All right, we're back here we go
Speaker 1: This is a complicated story. If you value life, peace, justice,
Speaker 1: and and freedom, this is complicated. It's also complicated if
Speaker 1: you exist in intersections like we always do. I am
Speaker 1: a black man, I am also a father, So this
Speaker 1: is a tough story. Rodney Hinton Jr. Okay probably gave
Speaker 1: us one of the most iconic videos and shots. That guys.
Speaker 1: It makes me step back and think of things that
Speaker 1: doctor King said, which was I've said it many times,
Speaker 1: but in reference to the riots of the sixties Watts,
Speaker 1: he says, my stance is and will always be of nonviolence.
Speaker 1: While I don't condone the actions of the citizens of Watts,
Speaker 1: I understand it. The city has been a counterpeg waiting
Speaker 1: to blow for many centuries. You can't oppress people, you
Speaker 1: can't treat people like they're subhuman for so long without
Speaker 1: them eventually fighting back. We've made this comparison many times,
Speaker 1: and I am not the first or only person to
Speaker 1: make this comparison. The police, for most people of color,
Speaker 1: and now you can add ice, feel like an insurgent force.
Speaker 1: They are an invading gang. They move like a gang.
Speaker 1: They demand tribute. It feels like extortion. They're dangerous, but
Speaker 1: they get to generally hide behind a badge. Now, the
Speaker 1: pushback I could always feel is the same pushback y'all
Speaker 1: can always feel when we talk about policing. Everybody wants
Speaker 1: somebody on the other side of the phone. When your
Speaker 1: house is getting broken into, it everyone does. What I
Speaker 1: don't want is for that person to come and shoot
Speaker 1: me after I called, or to even murder the person
Speaker 1: that broke into my house. I don't desire a murder.
Speaker 1: But here's this case in Cincinnati, Ohio. Ryan Hinton allegedly
Speaker 1: was inside of a stolen car that was pursued by
Speaker 1: the police, and the four gentlemen that were inside of
Speaker 1: the police got out and ran. Now, according to the
Speaker 1: body reports, he was shot in his back multiple times,
Speaker 1: which means he was running. The bodycam footage says he
Speaker 1: had a gun. He's got a gun. He's got a gun,
Speaker 1: he's pointing it at me, and then there's also a
Speaker 1: video of a gun somewhere in the vicinity. The issue
Speaker 1: is that might be true, there might have been a
Speaker 1: gun that there's also very possible that no, there wasn't.
Speaker 1: Either way, officer unloaded on this eighteen year old boy.
Speaker 1: Next day, the father, oh man, I can't I need it,
Speaker 1: Damn Rodney Hilton Junior, which I think would be an
Speaker 1: open and shut Clay case, which is like this is
Speaker 1: literally this is temporary insanity where he finds an officer
Speaker 1: who was just a retired deputy named Larry Henderson who
Speaker 1: was doing directing traffic. He drove his car into him
Speaker 1: and took his life. And obviously the families are sad,
Speaker 1: they're outraged, but it's complicated and in that this man
Speaker 1: willingly went inside the court willingly was ready to face
Speaker 1: the jury. But as this happens in the courtroom, there's
Speaker 1: about thirty officers lined up on the side of the courtroom.
Speaker 1: And this man, while he is in his bail hearing
Speaker 1: where he didn't get it, keeps his chin up, looks
Speaker 1: them officers in the face, walks by one by one
Speaker 1: because you came back down the gangs. You came back
Speaker 1: down the bullies. Because what happens is our sons keep dying. Now,
Speaker 1: I am not one that was defending Mangione in the
Speaker 1: beginning of the year. I am one that's saying the
Speaker 1: same things that doctor King was saying. I understand it.
Speaker 1: I understand having to watch footage of your son being
Speaker 1: murdered and losing all sense of direction. I also understand
Speaker 1: being very clear minded of like you've taken enough of
Speaker 1: ours collectively, because the thing about the oppression experience in
Speaker 1: the black community is it's very collective. Right. But don't
Speaker 1: think we don't have good sense because you see anybody
Speaker 1: defending Diddy. We understand there's two sides of this story.
Speaker 1: There are times that, like I said, yes, the government
Speaker 1: has conspired to take down many successful black men. It
Speaker 1: happens all the time where the system works against us
Speaker 1: once we get too successful. And we're also just human too.
Speaker 1: Some of these niggas's scumbags. But even the most hardened
Speaker 1: of criminals is still somebody's son. If he stole that
Speaker 1: car and he was running catch him. I'm sure this
Speaker 1: man's father, I'm sure this young man's father would understand
Speaker 1: if his boy was out there committing crime and now
Speaker 1: he's being held, this wouldn't make the news, cause he'd
Speaker 1: be just another lost black boy who is not going
Speaker 1: to get the same chances that a lot of other
Speaker 1: little white boys get. See the little white boys, they
Speaker 1: get the boys will be boys thing. You know, you
Speaker 1: get it. You're young, dumb, you're fuck up as a kid.
Speaker 1: It is what it is. No we die, right. So
Speaker 1: this father, in what I can only imagine is a
Speaker 1: fit of grief that makes you lose your mind, took
Speaker 1: matters into his own hands. Is it a homicide? That's
Speaker 1: for the courts to decide. Is it a manslaughter? I
Speaker 1: mean yes? So is it a murder? Probably? Was Luisi
Speaker 1: Mangioni a murder? Probably? They are seen planned. You just
Speaker 1: can't push people too far. Eventually they fight back.
Speaker 2: H h.
Speaker 1: So we'll see, man, We'll see what happens. He drove
Speaker 1: that card to the officer and gladly, gladly took his time,
Speaker 1: kept his chain up, walking by all them officers who
Speaker 1: were clearly there. They say they're there in solidarity with
Speaker 1: their fallen brother, and black people are like, where's our
Speaker 1: solidarity for our sons? Because all you're saying is the
Speaker 1: officer felt threatened, he was doing his job. You have
Speaker 1: no mercy for our humanity, yet you expect us to
Speaker 1: have mercy for yours. It's complicated. I don't have an
Speaker 1: answer for you. My answer is, so we'll see, man,
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens. He drove that card to the
Speaker 1: officer and gladly, gladly took his time, kept his cheating up,
Speaker 1: walking by all them officers who are clearly there. They
Speaker 1: say they're there in solidarity with their fallen brother and
Speaker 1: black people are like, where's our solidarity for our sons?
Speaker 1: Because all you you're saying is the officer felt threatened,
Speaker 1: he was doing his job. You have no mercy for
Speaker 1: our humanity, yet you expect us to have mercy for yours.
Speaker 1: It's complicated. I don't have an answer for you. My
Speaker 1: answer is, well, crimes of survival are a product of
Speaker 1: late stage capitalism, and sometimes people with underdeveloped prefrontal cortexes
Speaker 1: make stupid decisions. And yes, lands need to have laws,
Speaker 1: but we don't need a law enforcement that fancies themselves
Speaker 1: an army. It leads us into situations as such. So
Speaker 1: as you're looking across the country or across the world,
Speaker 1: over at India, over at Israel and Palestine, over at
Speaker 1: the Huthis over in Ukraine, and you think, how could
Speaker 1: that ever happen? It's happening now here. There's so much
Speaker 1: more to talk about, But my studio's flooded, my feeder
Speaker 1: and water right now, I have to fix this.
Speaker 3: I'll talk to you all Friday.
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