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Speaker 1: I tap in here We good politics, y'all? All right,

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Speaker 1: so I am going to drag the hummy right now.

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Speaker 1: DJ Molski, who is off top produced we are the

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Speaker 1: culture produced the people EP of Friends since nineteen ninety five,

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Speaker 1: That's how long I've known DJ Moski, a pillar out

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Speaker 1: Like just think we've been talking for two hours. What

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Speaker 1: He gonna tell you the idea. He gonna tell you

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Speaker 1: continuing saga of no one liking colonizers, specifically the Brits.

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Speaker 1: Just I just don't understand why the British just just

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Speaker 1: there's always been squirmishes. They both sides have extremist groups

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Speaker 1: It is what it is. No we die, right. So

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Speaker 1: So we'll see, man, We'll see what happens. He drove

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Speaker 1: We'll see what happens. He drove that card to the

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Speaker 1: Because all you you're saying is the officer felt threatened,

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Speaker 1: It's complicated. I don't have an answer for you. My

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Speaker 1: answer is, well, crimes of survival are a product of

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Speaker 1: late stage capitalism, and sometimes people with underdeveloped prefrontal cortexes

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Speaker 1: more to talk about, But my studio's flooded, my feeder

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Speaker 3: I'll talk to you all Friday.

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Speaker 1: All right, now, don't you hit stop on this pod.

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