1 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: Hello everyone, one to episode fifty nine the Hammer Territory Podcast. 2 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: I am your host, Brad Rowland, coming to you on 3 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: a Sunday evening here in early August. I'm joined by 4 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: Scott Colman for the first time and only about forty 5 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 1: six hours. Scott, A lot has changed and not in 6 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 1: the best direction possible for the Braves. 7 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 2: Hey, Brad, Yeah, the vibes were much better on Friday night, 8 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 2: after the Braves had won four in a row, six 9 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 2: out of seven, and we said at the end of 10 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 2: that podcast that hopefully the Braves at very least could 11 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 2: win one out of these two weekend games against the Marlins. 12 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 2: Of course the sweep would have been a dream, but 13 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 2: very sadly it was zero and two, which is the 14 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 2: last thing. 15 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 3: That we were hoping for. But I don't know. 16 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 2: Overall, it was a five hundred and above week. If 17 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 2: you're looking for positives, yeah, there are some positives that 18 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 2: we'll definitely get into along the way. 19 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:11,759 Speaker 3: Here. 20 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: We should start by saying we are part of the 21 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 1: Foul Territory Network, so please go ahead check out the 22 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: entire network. The flagship show at foul Territory also all 23 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: kind of team podcasts as well, including this one. Please subscribe, rate, 24 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: and review the Hammer Territory Podcast anywhere you might find podcasts. 25 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 1: We definitely appreciate all of the support that we're already getting, 26 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: and please tell your friends about the show as well. 27 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: It's been very busy. We did just allude to this, 28 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: but we did a kind of bonus episode on Friday 29 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: Nights with Good Vibes. It was me and Scott kind 30 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: of in bonus fashion, and that's still relevant at this 31 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: point in time. Plus a full week of content post 32 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: deadline with not only us but also Steven Tolbert and 33 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: Sean Coleman as well, and you know, we just talked 34 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: about it a little bit. They did split the series 35 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: overall with Miami. So if you were just to say 36 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: that four days ago, that isn't like totally disastrous. It 37 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,919 Speaker 1: would not have been great, but a little bit different. 38 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: Woudn't you lose the last two versus the first two? 39 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: But the Phillies are not very good right now, Scott, 40 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if you've seen that, and we'll probably 41 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 1: come back to that at some point later on the podcast. 42 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: But they blew a five real lead on Saturday. They 43 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: did win on Sunday, but it's been a list of the 44 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: Brigs are playing better than the Phillies by a pretty 45 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 1: decent margin, and that allows the Braves to make up 46 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 1: some ground even if they're not winning every night. 47 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, if we're looking for a little. 48 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 2: Bit of positivity on the show, and trust me, it 49 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 2: was a pretty deflating Saturday and Sunday result. But really, 50 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 2: for the first time all year, the Phillies have really 51 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 2: come on hard times almost for three or four weeks now, 52 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 2: and maybe we didn't notice it as much when the 53 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 2: Braves were also struggling, But since last Saturday, so eight games, 54 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 2: the Braves have cut the deficit in the NL East 55 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 2: by three and a half. As we record here on 56 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 2: Sunday evening, it is a division deficit of six games 57 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,959 Speaker 2: with about eight weeks to go in the season. There's 58 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 2: also seven games head to head between these two clubs. 59 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 2: So while the Braves have lost ground in the division 60 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 2: since the last time Brad and I talked, they have 61 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:05,679 Speaker 2: been able to make up some ground and at least 62 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:09,079 Speaker 2: give themselves a fighting chance if and that's to say 63 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 2: a big if, because this team seemingly cannot figure it 64 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 2: out for more than a couple of days at a time. 65 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 2: But if the Braves can figure some things out and 66 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 2: keep winning games consecutively, the division is within reach, and 67 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 2: it really did not seem that way even as of 68 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 2: a few weeks ago. 69 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 1: That's right, and you know we're still two weeks or 70 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: so from the next time the Braves and Phillies actually 71 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: face off. But you mentioned the seven games. If the 72 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: Braves were to go out and win those games convincingly, 73 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: not all seven, probably, but hey, I'd be even better. 74 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: There's still there's still enough time, so we'll leave it 75 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: there for now, but always wanted to lead with that, 76 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: to have a little bit of a sprinkle of optimism. 77 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: By the way, later in the show, we're going to 78 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: some mail back questions, which we don't We don't do 79 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: a ton on this podcast, but it's probably good time 80 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: for that, given that we covered the games on Thursday 81 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: and Friday on the show on Friday, and then the 82 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: two losses over the weekend, but we should talk about 83 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: the games that actually happened, and Saturday's game was much more, 84 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: in doubt, much more competitive than Sunday's game. The Brands 85 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: actually led three to one on Saturday against the Marlins, 86 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: but then did not score in the final six innings 87 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: of that game and had very little chances to score. Actually, 88 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: there was one double play by with Maryfield was the 89 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: only kind of real threat they had. What did you 90 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: make of that game? Because it feels as you don't 91 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: want to blow a lead. I felt like it was 92 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: a kind of a ho home loss. Sunday's game was 93 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 1: not a home loss, but Saturday's game was a kind 94 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 1: of a normal loss, so to speak. I don't know 95 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 1: how you frame it. 96 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the hope was that after a challenging 97 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 2: loss on Saturday night, the Braves are going to bounce 98 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 2: back against a pretty bad starting pitcher on Sunday and 99 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 2: win three out of four. And I even tweeted about 100 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 2: it early on Sunday, like Sunday's game felt like a 101 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 2: pretty big game just in terms of vibes going into 102 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 2: a day off on Monday, and of course they end 103 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 2: up losing seven to nothing to really just make that 104 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 2: Saturday loss feel even worse. 105 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 3: It was frustrating. 106 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 2: You had the early lead. Grant Holmes was pretty good. 107 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 2: He ran into some trouble in the fifth inning. I 108 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 2: guess we could talk about whether or not Brian Snicker 109 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 2: left him out there too long before he kind of 110 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 2: ran into some trouble. Pierce Johnson was uncharacteristically pretty bad 111 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 2: and eventually gave up the go ahead run. And the 112 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 2: offense was just not great. There was a home run 113 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 2: early from Marcelo Zuna and a few more runs, but 114 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 2: really the offense just did not do a whole lot 115 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 2: in the final six innings of the game. And really, 116 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,359 Speaker 2: even though the Braves went to and two against Miami 117 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:35,119 Speaker 2: this week, the offense was pretty bad the entire way. 118 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,919 Speaker 2: And it really is a bummer that after showing some 119 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 2: signs of life even as of a week ago, they 120 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 2: have kind of reverted the lineup being they the lineup 121 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 2: has kind of reverted back to its bad ways that 122 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 2: it's done so many times this year. 123 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, a little bit of backtracking there, for sure, you 124 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 1: know it. Zuna's home run on Saturday was actually the 125 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 1: ninth straight game which the Braves had a home run. 126 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 1: That street came to an end with the shutout loss 127 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 1: on Sunday. You mentioned Grant Holmes. I thought it was funny. 128 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: There was this whole discussion happening on social media about 129 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 1: like who was to blame for Saturday's loss. People kind 130 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: of blaming Grant Holmes. The Grant Holmes was totally fine, 131 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: and I you know, people have to remember he's a 132 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 1: reliever who was doing a spot start because they don't 133 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: have a great reigion setup right now. And also he 134 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: was pitching fine. And I think what you brought up 135 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: is the right thing. 136 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 3: You know. 137 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 1: If there's any question there, it would be that he 138 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: maybe stayed in the game too long. He seemed to 139 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: like kind of lose it a little bit at the end. 140 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 1: But again it's not too much to nitpick, Like the 141 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: offense just kind of went quiet late and they lost 142 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: a game. And I think if we had recorded last night, 143 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: it would have been like, all right, you know, kind 144 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: of reset things, not a terrible loss, like you're gonna 145 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: lose some four or three games when you just kind 146 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: of stall it offensively. The real problem was, of course, 147 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: the game on Sunday. 148 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 4: Big shout out to America's number one meal kit, Hello Fresh, 149 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 4: for helping us eat good during this busy time of 150 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 4: the year for us. 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A seven to nothing 167 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: loss is not ever good. It was particularly painful because 168 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: the Braves seemingly took the lead in the certain inning. 169 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: It was not to be, nor was it actually a 170 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: lead that actually existed, because they never scored a game, 171 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: and then they never scored in the game. But I'm 172 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: sure you saw this closely. Solaire was waived home from 173 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: first on a Riley double. It was called safe, then 174 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,679 Speaker 1: overturned by the way that Riley double was the only 175 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: extra base hit in the entire game for the Braves, 176 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: which is not what you want on a Sunday. I 177 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: have a question for you, Scott, before we get into 178 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: the obvious nature of the poor offense, because it didn't 179 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: actually matter, quote unquote, but why why is Solaire running 180 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: from third with one out and Ozoona up next? That's 181 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: my question. Why do we do that? 182 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 3: I don't understand. 183 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 2: I don't know, And maybe the bigger point and I 184 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,839 Speaker 2: agree it was a bad send and I think the 185 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 2: bigger point here though, is this, the Braves are a 186 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 2: slow as hell baseball team. 187 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 1: That's one hundred per centrure. 188 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 3: There is there. 189 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 2: I mean, they look like me trying to run, and 190 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 2: I am far from a professional athlete, well past my prime. 191 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 2: I mean, just go down the lineup. Jorge Solaire not 192 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 2: a burner. Austin Ryan is an okay athlete. He's not 193 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 2: he's not heavy footed, but you know he's not a burner. 194 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 2: Marcelo Zuna one of the slowest players in the league. 195 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 2: Matt Olson one of the slowest players in the league. 196 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 2: Catchers are basically never fast. 197 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: I mean they have they have, they have two guys 198 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: who can run, and they're both hurt right now. 199 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you are really feeling the impact of not 200 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 2: having the athleticism of Ronald Acunya Junior and Michael Harris 201 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 2: in the lineup every single night, because even when the 202 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 2: Braves do string across a few hits in an inning, 203 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 2: they are so stationed to station every single night. 204 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 3: It's frustrating. 205 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 2: It feels like there's always a stop sign at third 206 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 2: base and then whenever there is a go ahead, let's 207 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,599 Speaker 2: try to score. It feels just anecdotally like they have 208 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 2: been thrown out at the plate far more than they 209 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 2: have been safe just under a tag. So it's been frustrating. 210 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 2: I don't know why they held or why they sent 211 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 2: so layer in that situation there, even a fly ball 212 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,119 Speaker 2: from Marcel would have likely scored at least one run. 213 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 2: And I mean, within a span of about ten minutes 214 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 2: in real time, you had a I would say a 215 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 2: controversial or questionable overturn by the umpiring crew, and then 216 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 2: the floodgates opened for Max in the b or the 217 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 2: top of the fourth and really again, and within about 218 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 2: ten minutes the game kind of went upside down. 219 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and just to back you up. You know, Solaire, 220 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: according to Statcast, has thirty ninth percentile sprint speed, so 221 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: he's not like incredibly slow, but below average. And yeah, 222 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: it was a weird scent to say the least. But 223 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: again it didn't I guess it's quote unquote matter. You know, 224 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 1: the Marlins scored six runs in the fourth inning. We'll 225 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: come back to Max Freed in a second, but you know, 226 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 1: the offense was once again totally lifeless, like they had 227 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: the that was the one threat really in the game 228 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: was the near near run scored and you pulled the 229 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: stat But the Braves should have had a good situation 230 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: here offensively against a pretty poor starter for the Marlins, 231 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: and that kind of makes it look worse than it 232 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: actually was. 233 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, and ten starts this year, Eduardo Cabrera has a 234 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 2: six point six five ERA and has a pretty severe 235 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 2: walk and home run problem. But you would never know 236 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 2: it watching the Braves. I mean, they had very little 237 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 2: chance on Sunday, I believe, dating back to Saturday's game, 238 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 2: the Braves went sixteen innings without scoring a run against 239 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 2: a Marlins team that just traded a handful of starters 240 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 2: and relievers, and that just cannot happen. I don't care 241 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 2: if it's against a good team. You shouldn't go sixteen 242 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 2: innings without scoring a run. It is just more of 243 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 2: the same in some ways. I might have texted you this, Brad, 244 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 2: as we were kind of ranting during the meltdown Sunday. 245 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 2: It feels like this team all season long, has taken 246 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 2: one step forward and then like zero point nine steps back. 247 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 2: And at the end of the day, they're what nine 248 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 2: games above five hundred here as we get into early August. 249 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 2: So it's not like this is a bad team. But 250 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 2: every time this year it feels like, Hell, we do 251 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 2: a podcast about it and say, hey, Brad, feels like 252 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 2: this team is finally figuring something out. They have been 253 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,719 Speaker 2: better with runners in scoring position, they've been better in 254 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 2: executing whenever you have a chance to put some runs 255 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 2: on the board. And that's just completely gone out the 256 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 2: window between Saturday and Sunday's loss, and I guess we 257 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 2: just kind of have to hope that they flush it. 258 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 2: They have an off day Monday, and then they get 259 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 2: back to playing better baseball against Milwaukee this week. 260 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. You know, it's been that stop and start, 261 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:25,719 Speaker 1: and I you know, sometimes when we're not particularly exasperated. 262 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: We will try to just say, hey, this is still 263 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: a pretty good Big baseball team, and I do mean 264 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: that when I say it. Generally speaking, we've had some 265 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: down moments on the show at times in the last 266 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: few weeks, but this is still a team when they 267 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 1: positive fifty five run differential, they're nine gets over five hundred, 268 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: like they're having a decent season by normal team projections. 269 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: But this is up must be a team that's better 270 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: than that, and it's been. It's been wildly frustrating at times, 271 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: including over the last two days. Knx Free did return 272 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: on Sunday, which is a notable positive, despite the fact 273 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: that he didn't really have his best stuff. For some 274 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:02,839 Speaker 1: background he had. You know, of course, that injury. I'm 275 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: not sure it was an injury, so he felt something 276 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: in his arm during the All Star Game warm up, 277 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: so July sixteenth, so you know, two and a half 278 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:13,199 Speaker 1: three weeks ago, we did not know and new to 279 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 1: the Braves candidly how long he'd be out. But it 280 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 1: seems like he did a pretty good job getting back 281 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: and this is a very good result. And while we'll 282 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 1: talk about how much he struggled, he did say after 283 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 1: the game, and you know, hopefully this stands that he 284 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: feels good physically, so there was no issue. There's something 285 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: in the back of my head was like, I wonder 286 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: if he's feeling okay at the end of the start, 287 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: But hopefully, and according to what Max said on the 288 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: record two reporters, he's still feeling good, which is kind 289 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: of all that matters to me. Hopefully he responds well 290 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: to this. But beyond him struggling, the fact that he 291 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: came back is a huge, huge store in the positive direction. 292 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 293 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 2: I mean, it might be a situation where you maybe 294 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 2: lost the battle, but you're hopefully going to win the war. 295 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 2: It was great to get Max back out there. 296 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 3: I think it's. 297 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 2: Probably fair to wonder why he did not go out 298 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 2: on a rehab assignment and at least throw three or 299 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:03,599 Speaker 2: four innings with one of the minor league affiliates. I 300 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 2: don't know if you feel differently, Brad. 301 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 1: It's kind of like run on the line to me, 302 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: Like I, after seeing this, you know you have to 303 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: ask the question, just like we are right now. I 304 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: do think that if he had been out like five weeks, 305 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: it'd be like, Okay, what are we doing here? He's 306 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,199 Speaker 1: gotta throw, he's got a rehab start. I feel like 307 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: this is a kind of run on the border line. 308 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: Two and a half, three weeks, it's like, okay, he 309 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: could maybe pitch, So it didn't really flag to me 310 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: before he pitched, But then you watch him and he 311 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: didn't have his stuff, like we'll talk about it with 312 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: a command. Was just all over the place, And I 313 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: wonder if that was maybe preventable by sending him somewhere else. 314 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 2: For sure, And if Max went out there today and 315 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 2: through five scoreless innings, of course we wouldn't have asked 316 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 2: if he needed a rehab shot. That's right, Yeah, naturally 317 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 2: it's all revisionist. But I think if you're looking for 318 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 2: last half full, Max Freed is back and presumably healthy. 319 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 2: This was a weird elbow ailment dealing with a nerve, 320 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 2: which is always a little concerning. There was kind of 321 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 2: the recovery time for other big league starters who have 322 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 2: dealt with the same injury was all over the place. 323 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 2: So the fact that Max is back after three weeks 324 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 2: is really good news. We'll have to hope that nothing 325 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 2: feels funny when he wakes up tomorrow or whenever he 326 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 2: makes a bullpen session this upcoming week. But as frustrating 327 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 2: as Sunday's loss was, and don't get me wrong, I 328 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 2: think it was one of the worst losses of the season. 329 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 2: If you have Max Freed back and hopefully at his 330 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 2: normal level once he's kind of shaken off some cobwebs, 331 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 2: that is obviously going to give the team a big 332 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 2: boost going down the stretch. 333 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it was all command. You watched the 334 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: start today, you know, his stuff looked okay to me, 335 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: but five walks. The money stat for me is forty 336 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: six strikes and eighty two pitches. That is not Max 337 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: Freed like, He's not like Greg Max in his prime, 338 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: but he's He's pretty good with his command was speaking 339 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: he didn't have today. He ended up being Troup with 340 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: five runs because lu Jacks give a give a home 341 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: run after he left. But you know, Max was not good. 342 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: He acknowledged that. But also, like feeling good is the 343 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: biggest thing. 344 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 3: There. 345 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: One last thing unless you have more to add on 346 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: Sunday is that I thought it was, you know, aside 347 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: from the home run that he allowed, which did count. 348 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: Luke Jackson saved the bullpen. He threw three and two 349 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: thirds innings today, which ended up being quite important. I 350 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: know they have Monday off, but to not have to 351 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: burn anybody else for any length of time was quite 352 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: helpful in the midst of what was pretty much a 353 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: game that was kind of over at that point in time. 354 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: Him eating almost four innings was big. 355 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 2: It'll definitely help keep guys crash and then you're off 356 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 2: on Monday. And that's not a small thing that you 357 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 2: were able to give everybody a breather. But yeah, I mean, 358 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 2: I think after the trade we were cautiously optimistic that 359 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 2: Luke Jackson might be able to help this bullpen. 360 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 3: It has not been. 361 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 2: Great through two appearances with the Braves. He came in 362 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 2: on Friday and very promptly gave up a I mean 363 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 2: he inherited a lot of runners and his two appearances, 364 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 2: which is worth noting. But I believe he has inherited 365 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 2: five runners and four of them have come around a score. 366 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not what you want, I will say in 367 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: his defense, I watched too much of today's game, given 368 00:16:57,960 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: that it was pretty much over. After that home run, 369 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: he strike out five and like looked pretty good to 370 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 1: me after the homer. Like again, I mean the game's 371 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:05,919 Speaker 1: kind of over, so maybe it's a little bit different. 372 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 1: It's kind of what Alex said to like. He did 373 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 1: not say any of the bad stuff, but he was 374 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: saying like his he started to turn the corner a 375 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: little bit free trade, and the stuff looks better. I 376 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: could kind of back that up. Again, I'm not an 377 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: actual expert on this stuff, but I think he looked 378 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: pretty crisp to me post home run. But hey, it 379 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:22,719 Speaker 1: all counts, so you don't get to wipe the home 380 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 1: run off. I just if you're looking for positives, I 381 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: think he's been. He's looked okay to me. I don't 382 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: know what that means. 383 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, he is such a bizarre reliever. 384 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: He always says yeah yeah, ever since. 385 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 3: Man. 386 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 2: I think he came up in twenty nineteen, and the 387 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 2: Luke Jackson experience is always a wild ride. He does 388 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 2: so many things in his profile that is like, Okay, 389 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,439 Speaker 2: this is what we want from relievers. He gets a 390 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 2: good number of strikeouts, he gets a lot of ground balls. 391 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 2: That's very important for relievers. Strikeouts and ground balls. Good 392 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 2: things are generally going to happen when you do that. 393 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 2: But then the results continue to not be great. I 394 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,160 Speaker 2: don't know, maybe at some point we get some clarity, 395 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 2: but I think in a perfect situation, Luke Jackson is 396 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 2: kind of like the fifth or sixth guy out of 397 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 2: the bullpen and not having to pitch high leverage. And 398 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 2: maybe as especially once rosters expand in a few weeks 399 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 2: and they get to add another arm to that bullpen, 400 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 2: maybe he'll get shifted down even more. But I guess 401 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 2: as we are talking about the good and the bad 402 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 2: from Sunday, Luke does get a tip of the cap 403 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 2: and a pat on the back for covering most of 404 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 2: the innings once Max Fried left. 405 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: You and I are old enough to remember when Luke 406 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 1: was the closer in twenty nineteen and people hated him 407 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 1: because that was definitely an adventure. And then in twenty 408 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 1: twenty one he had a season of the Ages. He 409 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: had a sub two era and which is pretty much perfect. 410 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 1: So obviously that's all a long time ago. But even 411 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 1: when he has been good, he kind of relies on 412 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: the ball being hit to the right place, because ground 413 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: balls are good, I agree with you, but if they 414 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: sneak through their maddening and there you go. Okay, let's 415 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 1: get to some of back questions before we get out 416 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 1: of here, and a few of these are kind of 417 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: topical for right now, which is why we selected them. 418 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: But one came up today actually comes from Brooks, who says, plainly, 419 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 1: I don't get why Dylan Lee with a two ERA 420 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: will be sent to Gwinnette. Why not someone else? So Scott, 421 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 1: I will hand this one to you first. Dylany got 422 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 1: option this morning. Why did that happen? And I think 423 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 1: we'll just go ahead and say it's it's defensible, but 424 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: it's not something that's like a lot of fun for 425 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: anybody involved. 426 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, the only reason that Dylan Lee is in Gwinnett 427 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 2: right now, and honestly, he might not even report to 428 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 2: the Stripers. He might just stay with the team and 429 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 2: travel with the team. But the only reason that Dylan 430 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 2: Lee was optioned to the Miners is because he has 431 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 2: minor league options and basically nobody else in the bullpen does. 432 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: Yep, that's it. 433 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 3: That's it. 434 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the. 435 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 2: It's not performance related. Dylan kind of quietly in forty 436 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 2: five innings has an ERA of two. He has really 437 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 2: good peripherals and underlying metrics as well, and whenever he's 438 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 2: been healthy for a couple of seasons now, Dylan Lee 439 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 2: has been a perfectly fine left handed reliever. But again, man, 440 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 2: I mean even Brian Snitker has talked about this in 441 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 2: the past, especially during roster cut season in spring training. 442 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 2: Having minor league options works against players maybe more than 443 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 2: anything else. And players, whether it's fair or not, get 444 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 2: sent down all the time because they have flexibility, and 445 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 2: someone like a Jesse Chavez or a Luke Jackson or 446 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 2: a Grant Holmes do not have minor league options, and 447 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 2: it's either you have to DFA them or you have 448 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 2: to keep them on the big league roster. 449 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 3: That's really your only two options. 450 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, just to back you up on Dylan Lee, 451 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 1: it's actually crazy how good Dylan Lee has been for 452 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: three years now. I just pulled this number. In the 453 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: last three seasons combined, that's one hundred and five games 454 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: and one hundred and nineteen innings. Dylan Lee has a 455 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: two point four to nine ERA with like tense records 456 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 1: for nine two and a half hawalks for nine FIP 457 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: of like three point one like. He has been a 458 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 1: I don't want to use the word elite, but very 459 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: good reliever for three seasons now. So it is all 460 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: on the surface. It is very absurd, Like if you're 461 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 1: not someone who's in the weeds on this stuff and 462 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 1: knows the stuff, why and I get the question and 463 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 1: they get a question from Brooks, it does seem absurd 464 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 1: because he's obviously better than guys they have on the roster. 465 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: It just comes down to mechanics of baseball and the 466 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 1: only choice they would have really had you mentioned a 467 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: lot of these names, but they could have dfad reasonably. 468 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: I mean, if they wanted to bail Lake Jackson, they 469 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: could have Grant Holmes, who they obviously started yesterday. But 470 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: I think those guys would have been claimed, probably Jesse Chavez. 471 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: They don't want a DFA. He might be, he might 472 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: not be claimed, but they don't want to dfa him. 473 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,199 Speaker 1: He's obviously just like a legend around that clubhouse. So 474 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,199 Speaker 1: it came down to essentially, you could put Ronaldo on 475 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: the IL, you could DFA someone, or you can option 476 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 1: to the Lee. And I'm sure no one likes this, 477 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 1: but Dylan Lee being optioned is like kind of what 478 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: they needed to do as long as Ronaldo is like 479 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: able to pitch in the next couple of days. If 480 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: he doesn't pitch the next couple of days. That'll looks silly. 481 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: They could have ailed Ronaldo instead, but that's the only 482 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 1: thing that was what would have been kind of obvious otherwise. 483 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 2: And I guess the good news is is if you 484 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 2: do have to put put Rinaldo Lopez on the il, 485 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 2: that comes Yeah, that comes downly because you have the injury, 486 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 2: which means you can bring a player up without the 487 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 2: mandatory time in the minor leagues. 488 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 489 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I love Jesse Chavez. I think we 490 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 2: all have a place in our heart for Jesse. 491 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 3: Man. 492 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 2: I never have faith in Jesse when he goes out there. 493 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 3: I mean he's just kind of. 494 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 2: Throwing eighty nine mile an hour cutters and hoping they 495 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 2: don't run into a barrel. 496 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 1: And hey, yes, but I mean he's been he's been 497 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: good overall. I mean he has his peripherals. Just to 498 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 1: be fair, because we do talk about purperls a lot. 499 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: They're not good. So it's a lot of spoken mirrors 500 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 1: with Jesse, as much as everybody loves him. If you asked, okay, 501 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 1: here's a very obvious question. I think Scott, if if 502 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: you had to face an ending, you didn't know who's 503 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 1: coming up, because they're different sides of the mound. Is 504 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: there any chance you would prefer Jess Lee? 505 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 3: Uh? 506 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 1: No, see so, uh, I'll respect to Jesse, who, by 507 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: the way, in the last two seasons has a one 508 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: point nine to five with the Raid. Yeah, it's weird 509 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: to be. 510 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 2: So uh nervous when a player of Jesse's statistical performance 511 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 2: comes in. But yeah, man, I mean we're not We're 512 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,959 Speaker 2: not beating up on Jesse Chab He's account and by 513 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 2: the way, he's a perfectly fine last like last couple Dyess. 514 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 1: In the bullpen guy. Still yeah, yeah, you're you're probably 515 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 1: gonna have everyone that you love. And despite the back 516 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: of these forty it's not a shot Jesse. It's just 517 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: that you know, Lee is better than him. But they're 518 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: not gonna if they can avoid dfing someone that they 519 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: that they don't want a DFA, they're just not going 520 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 1: to do it. So simple as that question from Steve, 521 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 1: who says, let's assume Lopez is back soon, what are 522 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 1: you expecting from him? 523 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 3: Uh? 524 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: And then he says, I know you've worried about potential 525 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: regression in the past, So Scott, I'll give you some 526 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 1: numbers and then I will throw it to you. We 527 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: all know this barrel has been awesome this year ERA 528 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 1: wise two point six ERA for the season in nineteen starts. 529 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: It's obviously awesome. His peripherals are not as good as that, 530 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: but they're actually totally fine. But he has been showing 531 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 1: a little bit, even pre injury, a little bit of 532 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,199 Speaker 1: cracks in the armor. Not like he's been bad, just 533 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 1: not quite as good in the last five six starts. 534 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,120 Speaker 1: But what do you make of this? And I guess 535 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: we could give Steve a projection like, assuming health with Lopez, 536 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 1: what you think he might be for the next two months. 537 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 2: I think the hope is assuming all as well. With 538 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 2: Ronaldo's elbow. And just to note that he still has 539 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:39,479 Speaker 2: not thrown a bullpen session yet, which isn't like a 540 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 2: great concern, but we're now a full week removed from 541 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 2: his elbow bothering him enough to leave a start. I 542 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 2: would hope that he's able to throw some pitches here soon, 543 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,439 Speaker 2: just to really kind of know. But I mean, the 544 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 2: Braves have every reason in the world to protect Rinaldo 545 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 2: in terms of his performance moving forward. I think that 546 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 2: we all knew that even when he was really humming 547 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 2: along early in the season that of course he was 548 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 2: not going to be like a one point five ra 549 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 2: guy the rest of the way. Otherwise we're talking about 550 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 2: like an all time great baseball season, and I don't 551 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 2: know if anyone was expecting that. And before the injury, 552 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 2: now Ronaldo had not been bad by any means. He 553 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 2: had a three point twenty six ERA in his prior 554 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 2: six starts, although the strikeouts had gone down quite a bit, 555 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,360 Speaker 2: the walk rate had started to climb. He had about 556 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 2: a four point five FIP an XPIP, which again is 557 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 2: not terrible, but it was a trend in the wrong direction. 558 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 2: So hopefully, assuming all as well with Rinaldo's elbow, you 559 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,640 Speaker 2: can give him a week or even another week off 560 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 2: and give him a full two weeks away kind of 561 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 2: to rebuild his strength and let him hit the pause 562 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,360 Speaker 2: button for a minute. And with the way that now 563 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 2: you presumably have Max freedback. We know how good Chris 564 00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 2: Sale has been, Spencer Schwellenbach has been unbelievably good, And 565 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 2: while Charlie Morton has been a bit of a rollercoaster, 566 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 2: it's hardly like that's an automatic loss every time Charlie 567 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 2: goes out there. And I think, if you're just hoping 568 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 2: for a steady final two months from Ronaldo. Hopefully you 569 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 2: keep him healthy and presumably he could be in the 570 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 2: mix to start a playoff game assuming all checks out. 571 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 2: But really, I think you just have to hope the 572 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 2: first and foremost that Rinaldo's health is going to cooperate 573 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 2: for the next you know, weeks and months as he 574 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 2: rams things back up. 575 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: For sure, that's the biggest thing. And I think we've 576 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: talked around this a lot, but I feel like the 577 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: Braves have two ACE level guys and he's not one 578 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: of them. Despite his performance this year, if you just 579 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 1: took a Zra from this year, it's been ACE level, 580 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 1: but neither was I think believes that he's that good. 581 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,640 Speaker 1: It's more that he is in that next tier down 582 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 1: with Charlie. He's better. He's been better than Charlie for sure, 583 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 1: but him and Charlie and you know, maybe Schwallenbach continues 584 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: this ridiculous pace he's been on. But there are two 585 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 1: locks for postseason starts, and then there's a battle for 586 00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: three and four, and I think he's right back in there. 587 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 1: And I think if you were going to try to 588 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: like guess his numbers, you know, people often think about 589 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 1: regression the wrong way where it's like, oh, he has 590 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 1: to be really bad to even out his low er 591 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 1: ear earlier in the year. That's not really the case. 592 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,919 Speaker 1: I think it's if I had a guess right now, 593 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 1: I probably guess, like, I don't know, at era in 594 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 1: the mid to high threes for Ronaldo the rest of 595 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: the year something like that, Like is this true talent level? 596 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 1: I feel like, and that's kind of where I would guess, 597 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: But like you know, we'll see. I think he's capable 598 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: of being better than that. It could be worse than that. 599 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 1: The biggest thing is health. But I feel like he 600 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,959 Speaker 1: has proven that he's the starting him is the right decision, 601 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 1: of course, But I feel like he's probably in that 602 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: like three three four starter range as far as like 603 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 1: what he actually is well. 604 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 2: And that's what I mean. If you would have told 605 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 2: us at the beginning of the year that Ronaldo Lopez 606 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 2: was going to pitch to the level of a third starter, 607 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 2: oh yeah, I mean, we would have been dancing in 608 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 2: the streets, especially in what they had to pay for him, 609 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 2: you know. I think the one thing whenever Ronaldo makes 610 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 2: his next start that I will be keeping an eye 611 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:02,120 Speaker 2: on is the command. I think while the velocity continue 612 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 2: to be pretty high for Ronaldo, it was clear in 613 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 2: that final start against the Mets that he just did 614 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 2: not have great command. He just didn't look comfortable either 615 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,120 Speaker 2: on the mound. So I think as long as Ronaldo 616 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 2: continues to throw strikes, ideally he keeps racking up the 617 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 2: strikeouts and doesn't give up too many walks. You know, 618 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,679 Speaker 2: that's clearly going to be a sign that he is 619 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 2: feeling better after a pretty scary elbow injury. Yeah, so 620 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 2: hopefully he's backing a way to go, but certainly been 621 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 2: a home run to this point. No matter what happens 622 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 2: from here, he has been awesome and everyone has to 623 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 2: be throw with the way he's pitched, and it's just 624 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 2: a TVD on when he pitches again and how he 625 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 2: looks when he gets there. But assuming health, we still 626 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 2: think he is a quality option in they have five 627 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 2: of those, which is very nice. We can probably just 628 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 2: move on to the end of the podcast now, Scott. 629 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,719 Speaker 2: We will probably just some more mailback stuff in the future, 630 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 2: but there's plenty goo opportunity today given these ugliness of 631 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 2: the last two games. But the Brads do have more 632 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 2: on the horizon they are off on Monday, and then 633 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,479 Speaker 2: they have a quick rematch with the Brewers after facing 634 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 2: them only about a week ago, now always less than 635 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,479 Speaker 2: a week ago. This time it's in Atlanta other than 636 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 2: instead of in Milwaukee, and the Braves have three of 637 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 2: their key pitchers slated to go in the series. Sale 638 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 2: on Tuesday, Morton on Wednesday, and then our guy Spencer 639 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 2: Schwallenbach on Thursday. And as a PSA, Thursday's game is 640 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 2: a twelve twenty pm Eastern Time aka nine to twenty 641 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 2: am Pacific time start for our guy Scott breakfast baseball 642 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 2: on Thursday. That's fun with that Breakfast Baseball is Swallenbach. 643 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 2: I will take that. 644 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like, don't tell your don't tell you, 645 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: don't tell your boss that you're watching baseball at nine. 646 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 2: Twee right, don't don't listen to the show. You know, 647 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 2: if it was like Alan Winan's Breakfast, which happened a 648 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 2: couple of days ago, that's right. 649 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 3: That was not good. 650 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 2: But Swallenbach, let's do it now. And obviously we just 651 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 2: saw Milwaukee. But a quality team, a team that is 652 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 2: leading the NL Central could be a potential playoff preview 653 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 2: at some point, and let's hope after such a deflating 654 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 2: last two days of the week for the Braves, they 655 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 2: can get back on their winning ways, win the series 656 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 2: against Milwaukee and just kind of flush this weekend which 657 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 2: was just a real bummer from a basically every perspective imaginable. 658 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, we will see how they respond, but certainly I'm 659 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: looking forward to them getting back on the horse a 660 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: little bit this week. We won't preview it in folds. 661 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: We'll have plenty of content between now and then. But 662 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: after this Milwaukee series at home, it is a long 663 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: trip and the final trip to the West Coast, which 664 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: is Scott Coleman's territory. They have three in Colorado, three 665 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: in San Francisco, sorry, four in San Francisco, and then 666 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: three in Los Angeles against the Angels. So not the 667 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: most difficult stretch on the West Coast as far as 668 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 1: the opponents are concerned. But anytime you gotta go out 669 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: west for ten straight games, a lot of late nights, 670 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: long trip, as you wus and by the way they 671 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:54,719 Speaker 1: get when they get back to the East Coast, it's 672 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 1: it's the Phillies, I believe. After that, so interesting baseball 673 00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: on the horizon. 674 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 3: It is a very important next couple of weeks. 675 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 2: And I mean maybe it's captain obvious because we only 676 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 2: have two months left in the regular season and every 677 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 2: game is going to matter. But you have an important 678 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 2: series with the Brewers, and then you have a ten game, 679 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 2: ten day West Coast trip. Fortunately, the Rockies and the 680 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 2: Angels are both terrible and the Giants are not bad, 681 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 2: but they just they just sold off some pieces as 682 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 2: we saw firsthand, including. 683 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: Including one, yes, Hilaire returning returning home quoteunquote, I kidding 684 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: about home, but returning back to San Francisco. 685 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 2: San Francisco Giants legend Jorge. So you think they'll do 686 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 2: like a seven minute video tribute like they did. 687 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 1: For Freddy I was gonna say if he if he 688 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: was part of the Atlanta Hawks organization, they would definitely 689 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 1: do a tribute. They do one for everyone, I mean 690 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: literally everyone that leaves. It's like they have a they 691 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 1: have a nice second video for like the twelfth Man. 692 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 1: It's incredible, it's incredible content. But so maybe the Johnson 693 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: will surprise us with a full one tribute to to 694 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: Jge on next Monday. 695 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 3: That would be good. 696 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 2: Uh, And yeah, I mean, so it's not like they're 697 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 2: going to go out west and play just three Juggernauts. 698 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 2: I mean, if they were going to go play the Padres, 699 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 2: the Dodgers, and the Diamondbacks, it's like, oh man, this 700 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 2: might be a rough one. And then I believe, without 701 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 2: having the schedule in front of me, we talked about 702 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 2: the importance of the month of August. I believe after 703 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 2: that West coast trip, the Braves then come back home 704 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 2: to play the Phillies. 705 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 1: Yep. 706 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 3: I think they then play the Twins if Memories. 707 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 1: Philly Affilly at home, then home for Washington for three, 708 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 1: and then at Minnesota and then at four in Philly. 709 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 1: So basically they played they played the Phillies at the 710 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: end of the month seven times in like two and 711 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 1: a half weeks, and that will probably decide the division 712 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 1: if we had to say at this point. Obviously the 713 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: Phillies have the advantage right now, but those are even 714 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: though they're not the last games of the season, those 715 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 1: would be the games that if the Braves want to 716 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: have a chance to win the National Geese, they probably 717 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: can't go out there and lose five out of seven 718 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: of Philly, which you. 719 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 2: Say, yeah, I think we will know with pretty high 720 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 2: confidence by September first, if this team has a chance 721 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 2: to win another division title, or if it's probably time 722 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 2: to focus on the wild card. 723 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 1: Yep. And by the way, why are they off on 724 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 1: Labor Day? 725 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 3: I hate that. 726 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: Sorry, that's just a non sequitter right here at the 727 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: end of the podcast. But no game on Labor Day? 728 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: Come on, We'll be doing. 729 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 2: Here every year. There's like or like last year. I 730 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 2: don't think they played on like the fourth of July 731 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 2: one year, like guys, I mean, there's one hundred and 732 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 2: sixty two games. Surely we can find a different off 733 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 2: day from the three main summer holidays. And you know, 734 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 2: it's just who knows. But anyway, yeah, anyway, beat the Brewers, 735 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 2: get back blush this very frustrating weekend series, and hopefully 736 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 2: you take two out of three against Milwaukee. That's a 737 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 2: pretty good team and one I think that's firmly going to. 738 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 3: Be in the playoff mix at the end of the year. 739 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: Yes, a potential playoff review to be sure. Scott. That's 740 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: all for us. Please tell people where they can find 741 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: all of your musings on Twitter when you are especially 742 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 1: entertaining in the middle of braids losses. 743 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 3: I have to say, oh. 744 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 2: Man, it's been an interesting forty eight hours on Twitter. 745 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 2: I am at Scott Coleman fifty five and he Brad Roland, 746 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 2: my fabulous co host, is at BTT Rowland. We really 747 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 2: do appreciate all this support for the show. We will 748 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 2: be back with more this week, and man, let's try 749 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 2: to flush these games, Brad. These were pretty bad. Just 750 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 2: thinking back, Braves felt like they left a little bit 751 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 2: of meat on the bone against a terrible Marlins team. 752 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 2: But I guess at the same time, as we always say, 753 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 2: there are no guarantees in baseball, and weird stuff can happen. 754 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 1: I will make a call to the clubhouse. They have 755 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 1: a home off day on Monday, a full blown no 756 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 1: travel off day, perhaps a little bit of a reset 757 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,280 Speaker 1: before they play on Tuesday. You mentioned our Twitter accounts. 758 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,399 Speaker 1: The show can be found and on every platform really 759 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:42,319 Speaker 1: at Hammer Territory, Twitter or Facebook, Instagram, et cetera. And 760 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,760 Speaker 1: then please please please go ahead and subscribe on Apple 761 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 1: and Spotify. We're also on YouTube, which even though it's 762 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 1: audio only, we're still on YouTube if you want to 763 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 1: find us there and lead Fosto range and reviews. Tell 764 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 1: your friends about the show. We are sure, I will say, 765 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 1: I am sure. You have someone in your life that 766 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: might like the Braves that has not found on the 767 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 1: podcast yet, encourage him to to us. If they hate it, 768 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 1: that's okay to have them give us a chance in 769 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: the coming days. Thanks to Scott for being here as always, 770 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 1: thank you for listening as always, and we'll see you 771 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 1: all next time.