1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: The Volume. How are we doing? Everybody? John Middlecock three 2 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: and out podcasts A little thing we like to call 3 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: the weekend mail Bag Edition. Very easy to get in 4 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: on the show. It is just my Instagram which is 5 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 1: wide open. It's my name at John Middlecoff firing those 6 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: dms and get your question answered here. Just recording this early, 7 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: be a stretch about ten am Saturday. 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I got you download the game time app 43 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: promo code, John. You don't even need to say thank you, 44 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: just use that promo code, John J. H Chen start 45 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: with Evan here. Do you think the Broncos could will 46 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,679 Speaker 1: pivot off Russ if he doesn't work out as soon 47 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 1: as the twenty four season? With the Waltons being the 48 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: richest team owners, paying off the guaranteed money really an 49 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 1: issue for them. Love the pod and if you're ever 50 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: in socou check out Temecula for some great wineries in 51 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: nice golf courses as well. No Temechula, well, great place. 52 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: It's not about here's the thing. When you sign one 53 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: of these big contracts. Every team, I mean the Packers 54 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 1: don't have an owner, the Raiders and the Bengals don't 55 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: have much money relative to some Every team has money. Now, 56 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: it's about its impact on the salary cap. Like Aaron 57 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: Rodgers this year. It's not that the Packers didn't give 58 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: him his one hundred and fifty guaranteed. It was now 59 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: technically they didn't because some of it. Obviously the Jets 60 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: are gonna pay, But it's about its impact on your 61 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: salary cap. Because the way that you amortize the contract 62 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: on your books, you spread it out. So when you 63 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: get rid of one of these guys and you give 64 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: them an astronomical amount of money, it impacts the debt 65 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: quote unquote. Dead cap space and dead cap space is 66 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: just money that you can't use on other players, but 67 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: it impacts whatever. Let's say you have twenty five million 68 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: dollars in dead cap space. Well, if the salary cap 69 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: is two hundred and twenty five million, you do the math. 70 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: You only actually have two hundred million on that given 71 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: season to use on players on your team, even though 72 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: you're spending. Remember like when Tony Romo and Des Bryant 73 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: weren't even on the Cowboys and retired and it was 74 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: like they're still paying for it. So it's just the 75 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: way that you, you know, you kind of write these contracts. 76 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: But from a football standpoint, I definitely believe Russell Wilson, 77 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: you know, cannot have another season like that and continue 78 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: to survive in in Denver because they're paying the coach 79 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 1: too much money. But it's not about the owner paying 80 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: him to go away. It's about yeah they can get 81 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: they can cut them next year. But it just has major, 82 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: major impacts on the salary cap. If he has another 83 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: season like he did last year. I'm not trying to 84 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: be like hyperbolic. That'd be one of the craziest stories 85 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: we've ever seen, that this guy for a decade was 86 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: just a magician, especially the last five or six years 87 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: of you know, once LLLB kind of ended and he 88 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: just turned into this Pro Bowl level special guy and 89 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: now he just sucks and be one thing. Everyone's given 90 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: him a little bit of a pass with Nathaniel Hackett, 91 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: but if he does that with Sean payton'd be pretty wild. 92 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: I would kind of bet on him not being good, 93 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: but you know, obviously you get a big time coach. 94 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 1: They've added now weapons. I think they drafted the Oklahoma 95 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: wide receiver late in the second round. Who. I kind 96 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 1: of like, sorry, I'm a mom and a grandma. Who 97 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: thissten is your show. I feel like Lamar Jackson's mother 98 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: has got enough credit for her career. All I heard 99 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 1: from you and others to talk shit about how he 100 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: didn't have an agent and how insane. I agree it 101 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: was an orthodox. However, give the woman the credit. No 102 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: one believes that she negotiated this contract that Saint Omni 103 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: guy that negotiated Laramie Tunzell's contract, and one other guy 104 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 1: is DeAndre Hopkins, Laramie Tunzell and one other prominent player. 105 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: Like no one thinks that Lamar Jackson's mom was like 106 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: wheeling a dealing on this contract. Saint Omney did it. 107 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 1: From what I've been told, could be wrong, but I've 108 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: been told by people that know that Saint Omney was 109 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: the guy, and he was the one that you know, 110 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: Pat McAfee's talked about it, Florio's written about it. You know, 111 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: it's weird, like he's not truly an agent, but he 112 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: helps these guys. Lerremy Tunzel loves them. Now here's what 113 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: I'm all for. If you're negotiating up one hundred and 114 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: fifty million dollar contract, would I rather pay let's just say, 115 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 1: a Saint Omni type or a lawyer a flat fee. Hey, 116 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: I'll give you a couple hundred grand to negotiate this deal, 117 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: or give my agent three percent over the life of 118 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: the deal. I'd rather just pay the lawyer of the 119 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: flat fee. So if that's ultimately what he did, now, 120 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 1: no one. Here's what's shady about the Saint Omni situation, 121 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: which I find the character kind of, you know, very 122 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: curious about his whole operation. But no one quite knows 123 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: how he gets paid. But as I was told by 124 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: someone kind of in the biz, he's getting paid. You know, 125 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 1: one thing you learn in life, no one does shit 126 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: for free. That ain't how this world works. Definitely not 127 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: in this country. Really enjoy the show and the insight. 128 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: If Lamar's mom did negotiate the deal again, what they 129 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 1: really just copy and paste the Jalen Hurts contract. I mean, 130 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: so it's not like they actually attained anything that they 131 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: were seeking out to do. They just got the quarterback contracts. 132 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: Heard you on the Odd Couple podcasts last week and 133 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: thought you did an excellent job. This probably is an 134 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: obvious answer, but can you explain why a running back 135 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: position is such a downgrade in the value over the 136 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: past twenty years You think it'll ever come back to 137 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: where it used to be. It's just the rules. The 138 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: rules of the game now dictate that passing the ball 139 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: right is a huge advantage for the offense. The defense 140 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: can't hit your wide receivers right, so there is no 141 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: threat going over the middle. There is just the violence 142 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: in the passing game which used to be very, very difficult. 143 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: Like when you hear these old heads like Elway Marino 144 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: and obviously not even them, but guys from that generation 145 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: eighties and nineties talk about playing the position. It was 146 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: very difficult because to throw it over the middle of 147 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: the field, you know, he gets some guy killed. Well, 148 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: they can't do that anymore. Obviously on the outside. There 149 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: are way more good wide receivers in the NFL than 150 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: good defensive backs. So your advantage passing the football is 151 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: dramatically better than ever running the football. And it's always 152 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: kind of been like that, but it was much harder 153 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: to be great in the passing game. That to me 154 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: is the biggest reason. And then running backs the life 155 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: of like their careers are just speak for themselves. They 156 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: don't last long, like if I pay DeVante Adams or 157 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill. So here's the financial element of it, too, right, 158 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: You just go around the league justin Jefferson, Cooper Cup, 159 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: those got Travis Kelce, whoever pass catching players. They can 160 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 1: play for so much longer I pay a running back 161 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: a second contract, most of them don't even survive. Ezekiel 162 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: Elliott falls off a cliff. Dalvin Cook, the Minnesota Vikings 163 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: can't get rid of him fast enough. So when you 164 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: factor in the rules of the game changed, the quarterbacks 165 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 1: obviously have never been better. That's another thing, right, So 166 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: when I was a kid in like the nineties, Hell, 167 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 1: my high school we ran the wing tea. It was 168 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,839 Speaker 1: like or the early two thousands. I was telling someone 169 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: the other day, and anyone listening to this that has 170 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: a kid in high school or coaches high school, how 171 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: many high school programs now run the spread, like the 172 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: Mike Leach essential offense or Lincoln Riley offense eighty five 173 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: ninety percent. Where I just moved from Dayala sal right 174 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: down the street from where I used to live. They're 175 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: a throwback program because they still run the triple option 176 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: every team, So all these quarterbacks now pass it way 177 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 1: more than they ever did. The best college program when 178 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: I was like in junior high was Nebraska. They're running 179 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: the option. I mean, hell, even in the nineties. I 180 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:52,599 Speaker 1: remember when I went to work for Pat Hill, it 181 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: was like, you know, he's one of the last programs 182 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: in college football that runs pro style, aka meaning he 183 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: had a fullback, so we just had two running backs 184 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: on the field. Look around the country. Now, NFL college 185 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: high school, there aren't two running backs on the field. 186 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,559 Speaker 1: It's what makes the forty nine or so unique. They 187 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: got Kyle Uescheck. That's why Kyle Huschack is going to 188 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: play on the team until he can't play anymore. Because 189 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: I don't know, Kyle, Where's Kyle Shanahan going to find 190 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: another Kyle Uscheck. I got news for you, He's not 191 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: going to They don't exist. And I'm pretty sure Uescheck 192 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: was a tight end in college who transitioned once he 193 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: got to the Senior Bowl, so he was, you know, 194 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 1: kind of unique. They just do not exist. So all 195 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: these factors money the way the game is coached now 196 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,319 Speaker 1: at the lower levels, because I think Bill Parcells is 197 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: famous for saying this, like he doesn't dictate who comes 198 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: into the league college doess? They just pick from that, right? 199 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: They don't set the tone really high school. You know 200 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: a lot of times in sports, for example, in basketball, 201 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: the three point shots you know has gone from Curry 202 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: and Clay and just all those guys down. Now. I 203 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: bet if you went to a high scho game, guys 204 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: are chucking three point shots. In football, it's the opposite. 205 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 1: It kind of comes high school college to the pros, right, 206 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,599 Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick. No one is run of the pistol or 207 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: the zone read boom him RG three. And it's just 208 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 1: it keeps materializing right spread offenses high and Chip Kelly 209 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: people sniffing around Lincoln Riley. It's just, Uh, it's a 210 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: fascinating sport man because the business elements of it, the 211 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: obviously the uh you know, the ex's nose elements of it. 212 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: It's what keeps us, what keeps us going. Uh. What 213 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: do you think Trey Lance's trade value will be after 214 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,959 Speaker 1: the season if he doesn't play, if he doesn't play 215 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: or plays but not well. Zero. Right now, his trade 216 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: value was essentially, you know, I'd heard a third day pick, 217 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: so teams were not willing to give up a second 218 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 1: day pick for him. Right now, one of his greatest advantages, 219 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: and this goes for any quarterback that's drafted high, is 220 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: their contract. They are on a deal that is not expensive. 221 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,959 Speaker 1: He's already used up two years of that. So if 222 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: I were to trade for Trey Lance by the end 223 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: of the season, I have to do I pick up 224 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: his fifth year option? Do I just decline it. Let's 225 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: say he doesn't play well. Obviously it's getting declined. So 226 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm trading for Trey Lance, who I'm pretty 227 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 1: sure because he was drafted really high. I say, it's 228 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:23,559 Speaker 1: all I was thinking about whenever I see Saquon Barkley, 229 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 1: like there are odds over their contract. Like, Saquon, the 230 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: Giants paid you fifty fucking million dollars through five years. 231 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 1: You're not some guy that got screwed. You're not some 232 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: fourth round pick who's made three million dollars total. You 233 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: have been paid almost fifty million dollars for like two 234 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 1: and a half good seasons. And that feels strong. So 235 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: like Trey Lance makes a lot of money. Like why 236 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: was Jalen Ramsey only go for a third because he's 237 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:54,079 Speaker 1: making a lot of coin. Why is DeAndre Hopkins, who 238 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:55,959 Speaker 1: I think went on Instagram the other day, like who 239 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: said I wanted to get traded? Come on, man, we 240 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: all know you wanted to get traded and they wanted 241 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 1: to trade you, but no one could trade for you. 242 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: Why he makes almost twenty million dollars. If DeAndre Hopkins 243 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 1: made five million dollars, he would not be He would 244 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: have been traded help maybe for like a second or 245 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: third round pick. But so the money impacts him. So 246 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 1: it's like I'm gonna trade for Trey Lance and say 247 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: he stinks. He Let's say he gets beat out by 248 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: Sam Darnold, meaning he's a third quarterback, and they trade 249 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 1: him at the end of the season. Well, he makes 250 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: I think he's on the books next year because of 251 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: his you know, he was a third overall pick. I 252 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: think it's like over nine million dollars. It might even 253 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: be it might be ten, but it's definitely like nine 254 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: to five because it went up every single year, like seven, eight, nine, ten. 255 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: So no one's trading for that. I mean, a good 256 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: backup quarterback costs like five six million dollars, so the 257 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: the financial constraints of these contracts can really hamper your 258 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: trade value. Like Jalen Ramsey would start for every team 259 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: in the league, but it's just only so many teams 260 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: have the ability to fit him under the cap. Got 261 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: a life question for you looking to be a first 262 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: time homeowner and stuck between waiting and saving up for 263 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: a house to live at for the next twenty years 264 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 1: or just finally getting out of the apartment life and 265 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: settle for a less of a house. Also, is it 266 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: worth it to sell off stocks to get money for 267 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: a down payment. Keep up the great work, I would say, 268 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: if cause I struggle with that. Like I have some 269 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: cash reserves, but I also have some stocks. Some of 270 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: them are down. It's like, should I just sell them 271 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: off to if I buy a home to redo the kitchen, 272 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: you know, if you don't have to, don't, but if 273 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: you need to to get the home on. One of 274 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: my great regrets is in twenty sixteen, same deal, I'm 275 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: like thirty years old. It's like, I need to buy 276 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: a place. Well, I didn't have that much money, so 277 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: in the Bay Area, you know, in fifteen sixteen was 278 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: still outrageous. Now, I could have bought a really, really 279 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: shitty house for like four hundred and fifty five hundred grand. 280 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: Instead I got a nicer condo and that home. Today, 281 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: like I think I'm gonna sell my condo in the 282 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: Bay Area. It's like I don't even want to deal 283 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: with it. I made a you know, you know, fifty 284 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: percent or whatever, just get out. If I would have 285 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: bought that same what I paid for the condo, I 286 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: think it was like five hundred and twenty grand, the 287 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: same equivalent of a home, even if it was really 288 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: shitty in the general area, would have easily been worth 289 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: one point one million dollars. It would have more than 290 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: doubled my condo went up. I don't know, we'll see, 291 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: I mean the next week or two. Maybe I'll make 292 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: best case scenario two hundred grand on it. Best case 293 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: scenario probably more likely like one hundred and fifty grand. 294 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: So you know, double my money, which is fine, and 295 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: double my money meaning my down payment. But when it 296 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: comes to a home, they just appreciate. And that's why 297 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: looking at homes in Arizona and I actually just went 298 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: and looked the other day, there is such a value 299 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: because young people like I'm thirty eight, I don't have 300 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: a family yet, but most of my friends do. I mean, 301 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: I will eventually that value of people in their late twenties, 302 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: early thirties, mid thirties, late thirties, early forties, people need 303 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: single family homes. Their value in America just speaks to 304 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: the market. Right, So anytime that you can get in one, 305 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: I would now that being said, like one thing, I 306 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: didn't have that much money sixteen seventeen eighteen, owning a 307 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: home is way more expensive. You know, the HOA paid 308 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: for a lot of my shit, like trash water just 309 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: the stuff that I didn't you know, landscaping I didn't 310 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: have to deal with. So there are other payments owning 311 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: a home. Like it's not just once you buy the 312 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: home you're just in hell. I mean when I own 313 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: the condo, like a year in my HVAC unit just 314 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: blew up and I did not have air conditioning and 315 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: Walnut create it gets one hundred and five degrees for 316 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 1: three or you know, three plus months, and I was like, oh, well, 317 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: what's this cost a couple grand? It costs me nine 318 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 1: thousand dollars, you know, so they are just life's expensive. 319 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: But anytime if you can't afford it, get into a 320 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: single family home, history would show it's the right idea 321 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: clearly right now with the interest rates, you know, it's 322 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: it's not cheap, you know, prices depending on where you 323 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 1: live have come back to earth a little bit, but 324 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: it's still very very expensive to get in, very very expensive. 325 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 1: Like I'm torn right now. I looked at a property 326 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: the other day. It was sweet. I mean it's big, 327 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: it's got a big backyard, big ass pool, awesome living room, 328 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 1: you know, three four rooms, an office. But it needs 329 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: a lot of work. But that's one of the reasons 330 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 1: it's much cheaper than a home. I remember asking Coward 331 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: about this, just asking for advice like a year ago 332 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: about buying homes because he's bought a million of them 333 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 1: over the years. Is He's like, you say, so much 334 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: money if you buy the shittier home, home that has upside, 335 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: almost like a draft prospect, and then if you can't 336 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: afford it to do the you know, a remodel, or 337 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: to put money into it and improve it. Because when 338 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: you look at a home, I'll just pick a number 339 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: that has been remodeled, redone gutted, backyard done or whatever. 340 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 1: Let's say that home is on the market for one 341 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 1: to five Well, if without that work, that home would 342 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: probably be let's just pick a number nine hundred thousand dollars. Well, 343 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: they put in one hundred, one hundred and fifty thousand dollars. 344 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: You actually get like three four x sometimes depending on 345 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: the location and the area value of that improvement. So yeah, 346 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 1: the white walls, and there's something to be said about 347 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:45,439 Speaker 1: turnkey not having to worry about it. But like you 348 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: can make a lot more money if you can do 349 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 1: the improvements. So if you can view a home a 350 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: little bit like a draft prospect, especially a single family home. 351 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: They got high upside. I remember thinking too like a 352 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:59,199 Speaker 1: buy a shitty home. I don't want to do all 353 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: this work. Looking back, God, I'd have so much more 354 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: money if I would just would have done that. As 355 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: a longtime Saints fan, it was a love hate at first. 356 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 1: When we signed Derek Carr, we took another frizen State quarterback, 357 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 1: Jan Cayner. Let's say Carr gets hurt, bench or magically disappears. 358 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: I don't know how that would happen. What are the 359 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 1: chances Hayner starts for the Saints and how well do 360 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: you think he'll do. I doubt we're giving Winston another 361 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: shot at quarterback one. I think big picture of the 362 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 1: Saints just saw themselves getting this weird quarterback situation the 363 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: last couple of years, and they just said, we can't 364 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: have enough quarterbacks. We'll give Derek seventy million, we'll re 365 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: sign Jamis, and we'll draft Hayner. I'm with you. I 366 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:39,679 Speaker 1: think I think they would go to Hayner. You know, 367 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,199 Speaker 1: maybe not if Derek got hurt like Week one, but 368 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 1: definitely in the middle of the season. I'm in agreement there. 369 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 1: This is not trying to be a cop out. I 370 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: think Derek's gonna be solid for you guys if Derek 371 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: stays healthy, like he's not going away, you know. I 372 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: think in a year it'll just be Derek Carr will 373 00:19:57,880 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 1: be I think you got I'm gonna pick you guys 374 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,479 Speaker 1: to make the playoffs. You know, nine to ten wins 375 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: your division sucks. Derek had an awful year, but it's 376 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: like I've seen Derek would just stable situations, be fine 377 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,199 Speaker 1: is what he is. But he's a lot better than 378 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 1: what he showed last year. And I'm sorry, like I'm 379 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 1: blaming it on Josh McDaniels, like I really am. I 380 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 1: think Josh McDaniels stinks. I really do so. No way 381 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: on God's Green Earth is Derek that bad. I think 382 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: you guys got a pretty good deal. You didn't have 383 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 1: to give him crazy money. I think Derek again, any 384 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: player get injured, but if Derek's healthy and he plays 385 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: seventeen games, I think you're winning ten and Hayner just 386 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 1: is the backup. Love Jake though from the Great White North, Canada, Lol, 387 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: been listening for almost two years. Love the show along 388 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 1: with go Lo. Question about my team the La Rams 389 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: What on earth are we doing taking sets in Bennett 390 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 1: with so many needs on the roster. Is Sean McVay. 391 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 1: Is this Sean mcvay's way of trying to get even 392 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 1: with Kyle and finding the next Rock Party? Also, what's 393 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: your outlook for the Rams this season? Personally in the 394 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 1: weak NFC? I think we have a fifty to fifty 395 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: shot at the playoffs. I think they saw themselves get 396 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 1: into a situation last year where Stafford went down and 397 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 1: they were just royally screwed. And it wasn't until they 398 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: kind of lucked in because Baker Mayfield right got cut 399 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 1: that they got another capable quarterback, a guy that could 400 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 1: just be a starting quarterback. And then I think they saw, 401 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: like you just said, you know, the Niners just draft 402 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 1: Rock Party and just had another quarterback. I have a 403 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: hard time being critical of drafting quarterbacks ever. You know, 404 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 1: everyone shit on the Eagles when they took Jalen Hurts 405 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 1: in the second round. Can you imagine if they hadn't 406 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: done that? So Jake Hayner stetson Bennett. I'm not the 407 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,199 Speaker 1: biggest Stetson Bennett guy. Some people in my DMS think 408 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: I'm an idiot whatever, But I completely if you think 409 00:21:55,840 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: he's good, one take them, one take them. I just 410 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: think your margin ferrer is really small, which is clear, right. 411 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 1: I mean, you've got a couple elite players win healthy 412 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald, Cooper Cup. I mean, what's the deal with Stafford? 413 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: Is Stafford just you know, banged up guy now? Because 414 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: to me, if he's healthy and Aaron Donald and Cooper 415 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 1: Cup play seventeen games, yeah, you should compete to win 416 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: eight nine games because your coach is awesome. But I've 417 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: seen Stafford healthy in Detroit with average rosters, and let's 418 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: face it, that's kind of what you guys have now 419 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 1: and missed the playoffs. So even if he is healthy, 420 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: I don't think you guys are locked just because the 421 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: team is nowhere near what it was a couple of 422 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: years ago, which is understandable. You know, you've made these trades, 423 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: and I don't think worst case scenario, you kind of 424 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: bought them out and then you get Kleb Williams, I mean, 425 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: which would be a disaster for most of us to 426 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 1: root for other teams that the Rams play, I'll tell 427 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 1: you that much. But I like it when the Rams 428 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: are interesting because I like Sean McVay. I'm a Packer fan, 429 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: but I first found the podcast through your Path to 430 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: becoming an NFL Scout episode. I am about to transfer 431 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 1: to cal Pauly this Faull and with you being an alumni, 432 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 1: I want to ask if you have any tips as 433 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 1: I hope to become a Scout or hold a personnel 434 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: related role in the future. Well, I say this to 435 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: anyone that asked me that's young, that's in high school 436 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 1: or college, which I give you a lot of credit 437 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: for even thinking like that. Once you get to college, 438 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 1: work for your college program. Obviously, if you're at a 439 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: huge school in Alabama, Texas to Florida, Ohio State, it's difficult. 440 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,360 Speaker 1: Do whatever you can to get in. It's why one 441 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 1: of my greatest advantages was at cal Pauly. I mean 442 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 1: I walked right in the building and wanted to get involved, 443 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: and by a week I had a whistle around my 444 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: neck helping them run drills, which not in a million 445 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: years would have happened at big schools. And even when 446 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,199 Speaker 1: I went to Fresno State, we did not have the man. 447 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 1: I'm sure it's changed now in twenty twenty three, but 448 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine. We 449 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 1: had multiple people just help us out. Derek Ray now 450 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 1: I think he tried out for as a kicker, but 451 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: he got involved immediately as like a student assistant. And 452 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 1: he's now the general manager at Florida State. He's the 453 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: general manager at Florida State. And when I got there, 454 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: he was like nineteen years old, and now he worked 455 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: at Oregon State for Jonathan Smith. He worked at Fresno 456 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: State for Tim de Ruder. Now he's the GM at 457 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: Florida State. And I think a great advantage for Derek, 458 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,199 Speaker 1: like me is we were at programs that were not 459 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: Texas or Alabama. So you're going to cal paly utilized 460 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 1: the smaller program sometimes like and listen it's I'm sure 461 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,679 Speaker 1: there are people listening that work for Goldman Sachs or 462 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: Wells Fargo or whatever, and you're gonna work your way 463 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 1: up and make a ton of money. I think there 464 00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: are also advantages to work for smaller operations. Now they 465 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: have to have a good trajectory right. Part of my 466 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 1: success at Fresno State was the head coach that I 467 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 1: worked for knew everyone in the NFL. I couldn't have 468 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: just worked at some random program where he didn't know anyone, 469 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have been able to get to the NFL. 470 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: So we had NFL players, and Pat Hill knew all 471 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 1: these people in the league. So I've got acting like 472 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 1: you just work for any small program like you need 473 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: or any small mom and pop shop. You need a 474 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 1: trajectory or respect level. But there is a huge advantage 475 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 1: of that because they give you a lot of I 476 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: just had a lot of responsibility everywhere I went, even 477 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: in the NFL, like we were. I'm sure the Eagles 478 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: are dramatically bigger now a decade later, we were kind 479 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 1: of we didn't have that many people. You know, it's 480 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: not there's not one hundred people working in the football operation, 481 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 1: you know, twenty coaches, fifteen scouts. You know, it's like 482 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 1: you get to do a lot. So the hardest part, 483 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: and it's probably the hardest part in life. Get your 484 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: foot in the door, get your foot in the door, 485 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 1: do whatever you can to get involved. And anytime you 486 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: do that, and the faster you do that, the easier 487 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: it is to break through and whatever you're trying to 488 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 1: break through. The longer you kind of wait, you know, 489 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 1: kind of dilly dally around it, kind of limits because 490 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 1: it's harder the older you get to make, you know, 491 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:25,199 Speaker 1: kind of unique career transitions, right, I don't care what 492 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: it is, it's it's very, very hard. So good luck 493 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 1: to you. Have a good weekend everybody, and audiose the 494 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 1: volume