1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:01,359 Speaker 1: Two Pros and a cup of Joe. 2 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with 3 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 2: you here coming up on this Wednesday edition. It is 4 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 2: getaway day, day before Thanksgiving, and we've got all sorts 5 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 2: of picks to get into. We've got our Quinn's wins 6 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:18,479 Speaker 2: in college football, He's got seventeen picks. But what would 7 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 2: a seventeen leg parlay payout? Stick around and find out 8 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 2: it's in the millions. We're also going to have our 9 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 2: picks against the spread in the NFL for Week thirteen. 10 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 2: The old p Petros Papadakas is going to stop by. 11 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 2: We've got our midweek Awards, and we've got the usual 12 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 2: fun stuff in Shenanigans. It's all yours coming up next here, 13 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 2: Two Pros and a cup of Joe on a Wednesday, 14 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. Cut up Sticks, You're a two pros 15 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 2: and a cup of Joe? Fox Sports Radio. 16 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 3: Why am I weirdos bring us into the show? Brah? 17 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: What do you mean? 18 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 3: What up sticks? 19 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 4: It's my song Joker and the Thief, Baby Joker and 20 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 4: the Thief. 21 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: Trying to get you fired up. 22 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 3: No, I don't want to be fired up. I don't know. 23 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 3: I got a volleyball game today though, fired up for that. 24 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: Are you in state college or you in Oregon? 25 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 3: I'm in Jersey. I'm in Jersey. 26 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 4: He's all over the place. Man, This dude's just got 27 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 4: reckers of the place. I got Rutgers twice this week. 28 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 4: So I got Rutgers tonight, I got Rutgers Saturday, and 29 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 4: then all I have a Yeah, I got volleyball in 30 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 4: Maryland on Friday. 31 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 5: So does the do you have Rutgers twice because of 32 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 5: the volleyball team? 33 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 4: Rutgers once because of volleyball, today, Rutgers twice Saturday because 34 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 4: of football. 35 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 36 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 5: What's interesting about I'm noticing this trend is it almost 37 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 5: feels like the football team and the volleyball team like 38 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 5: move together. 39 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, because Oregon Oregon played USC the same week. Yeah, 40 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 4: the football team, did I believe. 41 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, there's been There's been another stop that we 42 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 5: were on too, and there was a volleyball game. 43 00:01:59,720 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 3: Again. 44 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 5: It's that same team before that Saturday game. I can't 45 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 5: recall or remember who it was, but we were somewhere 46 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 5: else where. It was the exact same setup, which makes 47 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:08,679 Speaker 5: it cool. 48 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,959 Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, it's pretty cool when you come back. 49 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 3: It was interesting these days, man. 50 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 2: Never I mean like this is like, this is the 51 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 2: longest like road trip you've got on seeing the kidchen. 52 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 4: You know, it's interesting, like two weeks, just a little 53 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 4: I'll pull the curtain back a little bit, you know. 54 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 4: I've been working on something pretty cool with Schmiel Business 55 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 4: School at Penn State. And it's like on the final 56 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 4: you know, final like rundown, like like almost to the 57 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 4: finish line of completion of the whole you know, protocol 58 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 4: of everybody each dean and uh decision maker has to make. 59 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 4: So yeah, I've been busy on this end. So it's 60 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 4: been pretty cool. I'm excited to have this opportunity. Which, 61 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 4: by the way, I got a question for you guys. 62 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 4: All right, did you guys see did you guys see 63 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 4: the report on Shador Sanders where he did a deal 64 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 4: where if his content hits ten million views, it unlocks 65 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 4: a two million dollars something or other that he gets 66 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 4: paid for the content hitting that amount of views. 67 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 3: Have y'all seen that anywhere? 68 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 4: Well, So I was checking it out and I started 69 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 4: thinking to myself, if this is indeed true and you're 70 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 4: actually able to leverage your brand these days, because that 71 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 4: is a very real thing. Is viewership obviously, Like if 72 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 4: you look at how things are being monetized, a lot 73 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 4: of it has to do it in social media or 74 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 4: on blog and you know, podcast stuff like that. It's 75 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 4: the viewership, right, It's the amount of people that see it. 76 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 4: So I guess, apparently understanding how strong it of a 77 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 4: brand he's built in content, he did this type of 78 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 4: a distribution deal. Do you think that that kind of 79 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 4: complicates things? 80 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 3: Now? 81 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 4: Nil is one thing in college where you're taking your 82 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 4: name and likeness and you're building that name, image and likeness. 83 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 4: But in the league, the NFL, you build the name, 84 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 4: image and likeness off of the shield and everything else 85 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 4: is like kind of like a co star to the 86 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 4: shield and where to the point of where you sign 87 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 4: deals with the PA or whatever with your your likeness 88 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 4: being controlled by you know, the league, by the BA. 89 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 4: Do you think that changes if you're able to start 90 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 4: making your own deals and making your own money, how 91 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 4: does that look? Because I always felt like we were forced, 92 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 4: Like I didn't sign my GLA coming out of college. 93 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:57,799 Speaker 4: I did not sign with you know, my license and agreement. 94 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 4: I didn't sign my likeness away. I wanted to control 95 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 4: my likeness and understand more about. 96 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 3: How my name, image and likeness was being used. 97 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 4: So I had a whole thing with that, you know, 98 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 4: with my jerseys and cards and stuff like that. 99 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 3: There was a whole thing. But what does that do 100 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 3: for athletes? Now? 101 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 4: You know, going into the league, you, if you're understanding, 102 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 4: you can use the league shield and use the league 103 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 4: as leveraged to build your brand. I wonder how that 104 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 4: alters the business of what the shield represent and represents 105 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 4: and how it's able to leverage the name, image and 106 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 4: likenesses of these players that are coming in that Oh oh, 107 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 4: oh oh. 108 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 3: I'm just curious. I mean, is it perfect timing? 109 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 4: Is it perfect timing that Shador Sanders has now come 110 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 4: into the league and it's taking it over. 111 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 1: I mean, he it is a takeover. It's a smart 112 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 1: deal man that's taking over this show. I know that. 113 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 5: I don't think it's the first deal of type, maybe 114 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 5: the first that we're made aware of, because Shador and co. 115 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 6: Seem to always make you aware of everything. 116 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 5: I do think like the deal in theory is great 117 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 5: and it's probably what a lot of deals have been 118 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 5: done in the past. In regards to viewership on things right, 119 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 5: And that's typically how it works. All you're really doing 120 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 5: in social media is you're attributing however, many views like 121 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 5: you talked about to then say you should want to 122 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 5: be involved with this brand for advertisers, right, Like that's 123 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 5: ultimately what it's about. 124 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 4: Sure that brand can go through the player versus having 125 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 4: to go through the team, you know, or the league 126 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 4: to get it done. 127 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, but there's. 128 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 5: Also there's also sponsors that aren't a part of Like 129 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 5: they're not an NFL sponsor, but they could do that. 130 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 5: I mean they could do it in college now, they 131 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 5: can do that in the NFL. They always could, you know, but. 132 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 3: If you're larger brands, what if larger brand and large. 133 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 5: And larger brands would have to do so they can 134 00:06:58,080 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 5: select to do so, but it depends on what the 135 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 5: gl states. But there's still some one off campaigns of 136 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 5: sponsors who only have a single athlete in it. You know, 137 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 5: you don't always have to have a group of athletes 138 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 5: to be a part of that. But it all depends 139 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 5: on if he signed the GLA or not. 140 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 4: I just I'm curious as to how that n I 141 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 4: L I didn't I guess I never stopped to think 142 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 4: about how nil could impact the National Football League. You know, 143 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 4: but this is some way, this is a way that 144 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 4: it could possibly impact it. 145 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 5: What do you what do you think is different that 146 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 5: he's doing that hasn't been done before. 147 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 4: Well, because you don't have to, I guess it's the 148 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 4: control of the likeness of the player, like no one's ever. Really, 149 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 4: I don't want to say no one's ever, But if 150 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 4: you think about it. 151 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 5: Guys, are the way you're outside of you know, you 152 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 5: just can't that your team or NFL. 153 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 4: Logo, that's that's correct, But the usage of your your 154 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 4: likeness by the league or by the team like that's 155 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 4: now has to become a conversation because now I'm looking 156 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 4: at the fact that, Okay, if your contract, your player contract, 157 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 4: you have to look at that contract and see what 158 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 4: that represents for how your likeness is being used. I 159 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 4: don't know that. Is there a ton of language and 160 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 4: I'm rusty on it. Is there a ton of language 161 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 4: in your player contract that talks about my usage of 162 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 4: your likeness. 163 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 5: My experience in all of that was like, if your 164 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 5: likeness was going to be used in some capacity, you 165 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 5: were going to be you know, contacted about that there's 166 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 5: usually a separate deal with a different brand or partner. 167 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 5: It wasn't like they would just use it and you 168 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 5: wouldn't receive anything back for it, Like there would be 169 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 5: a conversation there about that and how that. 170 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 6: Would work and if they if you wanted to be 171 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 6: a part of that or not. 172 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 4: And what's that is that in the content? Is that 173 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 4: contractually stay separate couries? 174 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 6: Is that just a it's a separate contract. 175 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 4: So the team would have to bring a separate contract 176 00:08:56,240 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 4: altogether to you to represent a I will give you. 177 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 5: An apples apples comparison. It's like right now with Scott 178 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 5: Shapiro emails you and says, we would like to do 179 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 5: this for FSR. And you know they're using your dam 180 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 5: in likeness to promote a product or a good that 181 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 5: we do on the show, and you know it's within 182 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 5: your contract. 183 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 6: Right. So there's certain elements of it, whether maybe. 184 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,959 Speaker 5: Additional conversation or opportunity, and there's certain elements that you're 185 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 5: probably not receiving all of it, right m. 186 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 4: M. I just I find it to be interesting because 187 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 4: if you're controlling your name, your image, and your likeness, 188 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 4: where does that where does that line start? You know, 189 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 4: where does it begin? Where does it end as to 190 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:43,559 Speaker 4: how you're being used, whether it's highlights, whatever. 191 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 3: It may be. 192 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 4: I just wonder, I just wonder does that change how 193 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 4: it's how it is. I don't think any of it's changed. 194 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 5: I think what's more likely to change is there to 195 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 5: be more of a good blessing agreement at the college level. 196 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 5: But you know that's that's more likely to change when 197 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 5: they unionize and there becomes greater steps towards a professional 198 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 5: sport as opposed to amateurism. I think there's more likelihood 199 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 5: the college football realm change is not in NFL. 200 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 2: Maybe you can write a better song with all that 201 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 2: money you got. 202 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 6: Well, another song, because we only got this one? 203 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 3: Right? 204 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 6: Does he have other songs? 205 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Not not well versed on his catalog. 206 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 6: About Joe Burrow. 207 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, is this one? Or Lamello? Which one? Or li Angelot? 208 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: Yeah? 209 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 210 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 2: I mean if we should ask Petros, we should get like, 211 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 2: play both for Petros and see. 212 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 3: What he thinks. 213 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,559 Speaker 1: But I think he's gonna go Jello ball, you know. 214 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 3: I think that's you think so, I mean, that's his 215 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 3: intro song. 216 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 4: He's tired of it though it's a little bit should 217 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 4: do perfect timing, all right. 218 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 2: So Joe Burrow's back, the Cincinnati Bengals are taken on 219 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 2: the Baltimore Ravens that may or may not be part 220 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 2: of our picks against the spread coming up next hour 221 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 2: on the show. And so you know, the there is 222 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 2: some optimism there with Burrow back that that he's been 223 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,599 Speaker 2: a full participant and he's going to go ahead and 224 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 2: try and give it a go. 225 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: And here's my question. 226 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 2: If he goes out there and they do what I 227 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 2: think a lot of people expect them to do and lose, 228 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 2: then we're just gonna just gonna keep on keeping on, 229 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 2: just keep keep rolling him out there. 230 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 5: And he's getting paid a lot of money. I know 231 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 5: where people are going with this. I love the fact 232 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 5: that he's not going to sit. He's you know, gonna 233 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 5: play if he's healthy enough to play. 234 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 6: As you should. 235 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,959 Speaker 5: And it would first off, it be tough for Zach 236 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 5: Tiller to watch this team out there not having their 237 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:48,439 Speaker 5: starter play. 238 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 6: If he's healthy enough, that might end up being his 239 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 6: demise as a head coach. 240 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 5: But also for the fans, you know, I think there's 241 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 5: a real element of man these fans. By season tickets 242 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:59,719 Speaker 5: to see Joe Burrow play in large part the rest 243 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 5: of the team him. 244 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 6: Too, but let's not be ignorant to it. 245 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 5: They want to see Joe Burrow to Jamar Chase and 246 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 5: t Higgins, and they want to watch that, you know, 247 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 5: continue throughout the rest of the season if he's healthy 248 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 5: enough to go. 249 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 6: So I think if. 250 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 5: You're going to play the conspiracy theory of why you'd 251 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 5: sit him, Obviously he's dealt with injuries, so you don't 252 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 5: want to have to have him suffer something else that 253 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 5: caused him to miss next year. But there's also the 254 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 5: thought of if you got three and eight and this 255 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 5: thing goes the right way for you, maybe end up 256 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 5: with a top five pick and you're either drafting someone 257 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 5: to replace Trey Hendrickson, who I think we all believe 258 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 5: this is last year there. Yeah, so you get an 259 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 5: edge rusher potentially the best one coming out of college, 260 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,599 Speaker 5: or you know, who knows whatever else they need o 261 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 5: line well, you know, or they could trade back and 262 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 5: then maybe a couple of players who end up helping out. 263 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 6: This roster, in particular on defense has really really struggled. 264 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 6: So there is some. 265 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 5: Narritive I think to like the thought of well, it's 266 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 5: not the worst thing of the world. The Bengals finished 267 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 5: with three or four wins, but come on, man, like 268 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 5: every fan out there showering down Skyline Chili with some 269 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 5: Greater's ice cream after that, they were waiting to see 270 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 5: Joe Burrow back in that uniform. 271 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 4: Joe Burrow kind of looks like Boomer Assassin, a little 272 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 4: bit like a younger Boomer some some way, somehow, like 273 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,959 Speaker 4: there's a relation there. It's kind of weird. I used 274 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 4: to think it was just Macaulay cockin Cochin, but it's 275 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 4: kind of like some Boomers in there. I'll say this, 276 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 4: it's been a bad season for them. I think without 277 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 4: Joe Burrow, they they've won one game and lost the rest. 278 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 4: He is clearly a difference maker, uh and and so 279 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 4: getting him back I think does I guess serve the 280 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 4: purpose of the conversation that the North has been so 281 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 4: bad this year. I mean, it's still it still does 282 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 4: maybe have some lingering life to possibly what what the 283 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 4: season could end up being, you know, how could end 284 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 4: up playing out. But I think Joe Burrow definitely is 285 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 4: is a catalyst for them. Obviously not just because of 286 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 4: how he's paid, but I mean, the way he plays 287 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 4: it shows that he makes a difference for this team. Yeah, 288 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 4: I know, you guys, you know have said the defense 289 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 4: and you know that they're you can't outscore defense that 290 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 4: can't stop an offense. 291 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 3: I get that they're awful. 292 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 4: They aren't, they aren't very good, and Joe Burrow obviously 293 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 4: doesn't have anything to do with that aspect of the game. 294 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 4: But I do think there's a lot at stake. I 295 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 4: think there's a lot on the line. You know, they 296 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 4: they're paying out a lot of money to a lot 297 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 4: of these players that are on that offense side of 298 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 4: the ball. And if you've always you know, kind of 299 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 4: have justified things that way, you know, I think that 300 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 4: you have to show that you can be a better team, 301 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 4: even if it doesn't mean a playoff Berth. You just 302 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 4: got to show that your team is going in the 303 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 4: right direction. And I think that getting you know, Burrow 304 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 4: back out there on the field is probably the only 305 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 4: way that they have a legitimate opportunity of being able 306 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 4: to accomplish that. You know, at this point in the season, 307 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 4: it just feels like a wasted year. 308 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 2: It feels like a great quarterback and great players on 309 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 2: offense who have had another year wasted, and it doesn't 310 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 2: feel like the defense is one player away. It feels 311 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 2: like there's several players away. And I just wonder, and 312 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 2: maybe this is, you know, a thought in the back 313 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 2: of Bengals fans' minds. I just wonder if there are 314 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 2: a certain population of Bengals fans who look at that 315 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 2: Super Bowl that they lost, that they very much could 316 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 2: have won and had a lead in against the Rams, 317 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 2: and look at that and go, that's the closest we're 318 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 2: going to get, like that was our opportunity because windows 319 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 2: close fast, and it just seems like they've been struggling 320 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 2: to get anywhere close to what they did that year. 321 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 2: And meanwhile, Mahomes is going to Super Bowls like you've 322 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 2: got Lamar Jackson, You've got it. Just such a daunting 323 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 2: task in that conference, and they've been nowhere close to 324 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 2: where they were that year when they went to the 325 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 2: Super Bowl lost to the Rams, And it just feels 326 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 2: like another year down the drain, another year where he's 327 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 2: banged up. Can you think of the last time like 328 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:19,239 Speaker 2: he's gone a season and there's been no issue injury ailment, 329 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 2: like something's popped up, like he missed you know, Jake 330 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 2: Browning had to start a bunch of games because he 331 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 2: missed significant time. Last year, they were a disaster and 332 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 2: whenever you weren't complaining about that when Brownie came, no, I. 333 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: Mean, listen. 334 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 2: I think it's important to show the family like they 335 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 2: do it for Travis Kelcey and Taylor Swift. 336 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 5: I mean, family, why can't you pet last year? Last 337 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 5: year he was healthy. I mean, he played all seventeen games. 338 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 5: He didn't miss any time, so that that would have 339 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 5: been last year they were referring to. I mean, and 340 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 5: then last year what happened. They started off the season poorly, 341 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 5: and then they were scrambling to try and make up ground. 342 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 5: They were losing games again on defense. It just it 343 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 5: feels like there's always something with this team. There's always 344 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 5: an issue. Either he's banged up or they struggle early 345 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 5: in the season. And Zach Taylor says, we're going to 346 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 5: play him in the in the preseason this year, we 347 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 5: want our start to look differently, and it's like, Okay, 348 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 5: they win the first couple of games, hurts his foot 349 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 5: and then it's just a downward slide after that. 350 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 2: It just feels like there's something. I don't know if 351 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,719 Speaker 2: it's snake bit, but there's something that goes wrong with 352 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 2: this franchise every single year. And it was noisy there 353 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 2: in the offseason with the Tree Hendrickson stuff and the 354 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 2: contracts getting done. It just feels like they had their opportunity. 355 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,199 Speaker 2: And I wonder if there are people and you know, 356 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 2: it wasn't Prisco one of those guys who said they're 357 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 2: gonna go to all these super Bowls. 358 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 5: I don't know, said they were gonna win multiple super 359 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:40,439 Speaker 5: Bowls in ten years. I'd just say, we're basically going 360 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 5: to be on year seven, you know, for him to 361 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 5: be able. 362 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 3: To clim it ain't gonna happen. That ain't gonna happen. 363 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 6: He does sort of walked that back now, which is funny. 364 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 5: You know, if you go back to that twenty twenty 365 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 5: two season and there's many people at CBS will back 366 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 5: this up on Prisco, he was already been just tell 367 00:17:58,000 --> 00:17:59,719 Speaker 5: me I'm right, tell me All's right, Just tell me all. 368 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 5: We're like, Pete, they got to the Super Bowl, they 369 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 5: haven't won it. But he's like, no, just tell me 370 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 5: All was right. Like he wanted to announce that he 371 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 5: had predicted it right, because he knew they were going 372 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 5: to lose in the. 373 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 6: Super Bowl, then he was gonna have to deal with 374 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 6: the fallout. 375 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 5: So he was trying his best to make sure people 376 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 5: would contract be like nope, Like yeah, yeah, Pete, you're right. 377 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 6: But that's Pete for you, you know. 378 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: I mean, do you think Zach Taylor's back? 379 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 2: Because I know it's hard to punish a guy verse 380 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 2: quarters he should be, but I mean they've missed the 381 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 2: playoffs three straight years and they're going to miss this year, 382 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 2: so that three straight years they've missed the playoffs. 383 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: It just at some point, I know they're patient. They 384 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: gave Marvin. 385 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:44,479 Speaker 4: Lewis hit so Q said he should be back. Should 386 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 4: he be back? Jonas? 387 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 2: I think he's earned the opportunity to be back. But 388 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 2: if for whatever reason, they get antsy and decide, you 389 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 2: know what, we need to see more from this team. 390 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 2: We're not happy with the direction. That's the most coveted 391 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 2: job in the league immediately, because any coach anywhere goes, wait, 392 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 2: I can work with Joe Burrow like that's my starting point. 393 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 1: I'll take that. I'll figure out the defense. 394 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 5: I would push back a little bit because I think 395 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 5: most coaches are taking jobs. 396 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 6: Yes, they want to work with Burrow. He's one of 397 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 6: the best talents, no doubt in the league. Jim Harball left. 398 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 5: To go to the Chargers to work with Justin Herbert, 399 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:28,439 Speaker 5: and Justin Herbert is one of the best talents in 400 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 5: the league. The truth in the matter is there's more 401 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 5: than just the quarterback. Like I would actually probably prioritize 402 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 5: the ownership group. And that's where, again not to take 403 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 5: shots at the Bengals ownership. You know, they've done a 404 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 5: good job with how much money they put into it. 405 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 5: They probably maximize more with less than anyone else in 406 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 5: the league. But there is that always hanging over their head, 407 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 5: and that is something that like as much as attractive 408 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 5: as it would be, you got to fix the defense, 409 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 5: you build up that side of the ball. You have 410 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 5: to figure out what way to keep you know, borrow healthy, 411 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 5: tough division to plan, and you've got an ownership group 412 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 5: that doesn't want to spend a ton of money. Now 413 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 5: they've done so a little bit more recently Jamar Chase 414 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 5: t Higgins, but then you find, you know, the Trey 415 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 5: Hendrickson deal where they're basically going to have to kind 416 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,479 Speaker 5: of send him on his way after this year. So 417 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 5: I just I look at and think, yes, because of Burrow, 418 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 5: it's without a doubt an attractive job. 419 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 6: But if you've got to be. 420 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 5: Careful too, of putting yourself in bed with an organization 421 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 5: that has tended to not want to push the resources 422 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 5: there or expand their scouting department to be the same 423 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 5: as other organizations out there that have a very robust 424 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 5: scouting department and all that goes along with that. So 425 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 5: I mean, they don't even have an indoor Dude, they've 426 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 5: got a bubble. I mean, no disrespect, but like, come on, 427 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 5: like they literally you have to walk across underneath the 428 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 5: overpass and there's a bubble on the other side. 429 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 2: It worse practice today it's at the bounce house. Temperatures 430 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 2: are in the thirties. We're going to play in the 431 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 2: bounce houses today, all right. So let me ask you this. 432 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,160 Speaker 4: They should take some Louisiana hot sauce with a why 433 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 4: can do it though, that is what I would say, 434 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 4: And make sure that they use that original Louisiana hot sauce, 435 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 4: you know, with the three simple ingredients, and use it 436 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 4: on your plate, you know, because it'll turn that food 437 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 4: in that facility into a winner and had to turn 438 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 4: your food into a winner as well. No matter what 439 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 4: day it is, no matter where you are, make sure 440 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 4: you get some original Louisiana hot sauce with what you're eating. 441 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 4: Add a little bit to it and that Louisiana hot. Yeah, 442 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 4: you will enjoy it. Make sure you balue some both. 443 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 2: You guys have spoken highly of the Giants ownership, which 444 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 2: is a better job if the Bengals job opens up 445 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 2: Cincinnati or the Giants. 446 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 4: You have more talent and sensey, but you do have 447 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 4: the potential of a better ownership situation, better leadership situation 448 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 4: in New York. And you know that New York is 449 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 4: motivated to win as well. They will, They will do 450 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 4: what they think it takes to to build a winner. 451 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 3: Now. 452 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 4: I don't know what's happened as of late. It could 453 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 4: be the GM situation. Like I know, it was much more. 454 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 4: It was much more stable under the reign of Ernie A. 455 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 4: Corsi and than he left it to. I want to say, Reese, 456 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 4: I believe I think they they did a fine job, 457 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 4: but I thought there was a decline that started to 458 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 4: take place. 459 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 3: I don't know that. 460 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 4: They've at any point really recovered from that era of 461 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 4: time and how they were bringing players in or even 462 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 4: you know, Post like maybe you just say post Tom Coughlin, 463 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 4: you know tenure there as well. 464 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 3: I mean, it just hasn't hasn't looked the same. 465 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 4: But I think the opportunity to build it into a 466 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 4: winner is probably greater and better as an organization in 467 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 4: New York. But I don't know sincey that well, I 468 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 4: just know based off of what I listened to, you know, 469 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 4: what Q says about him. I mean, I have heard 470 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 4: the reputation of how cheap they are, and obviously that 471 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 4: plays out in the media, but I mean, hey, I 472 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 4: mean giants didn't want to pay pay Saquon, you know, 473 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 4: and I don't know if that's organizationally speaking, because we 474 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 4: got an opportunity to hear those exchanges take place. It 475 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 4: sounded like, you know, Mare didn't want want to lose Saquon, 476 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 4: but he's trusting the people he's hired to make those decisions. 477 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 4: So I would say New York, but it seems like 478 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 4: since he has the better roster at least has better 479 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 4: pieces to be able to build that. 480 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 3: But some would argue that, I don't know, they got 481 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:51,479 Speaker 3: good defense. 482 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say ownership group giants probably with what 483 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 5: the amount of money they've spent and what. 484 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 6: They're with their track record, you say, have late. 485 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 5: They've been through a lot of head coaches, but at 486 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 5: the same time they're also trying to get find the 487 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 5: answer and to get it right. But I think the 488 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 5: more attractive job would probably be Cincinnati, and just because 489 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 5: a Burrow, I mean, unless like coach feels really like 490 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 5: he's really tied into Jackson Dart, I don't you know, 491 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 5: I'm not. He's so unproven at this point as far 492 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 5: as what he is. I think you'd rather feel safer 493 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 5: going to the Bengals, who've also been patient in the 494 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 5: past with some of their head coaches, which is why 495 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 5: I think they'll still keep Zach Taylor. But I think, 496 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 5: you know, the Burrow attracting this of that would outweigh 497 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 5: not having really any ability to bring in your guy. 498 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 5: I mean, that's one of the thoughts behind it is 499 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 5: you're coming in there taking over a team that you've 500 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 5: got a quarterback he's gonna be going into a second year. 501 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 5: I mean in his rookie year now, but he's going 502 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 5: to a second year. You've got him for another. 503 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 3: At least two three years. 504 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 5: So you better feel really, really good about it, otherwise 505 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,040 Speaker 5: it's gonna be hard to move on from him. And 506 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 5: if you don't feel like he's your guy. And that's 507 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 5: how most of those head coaching changes, you know work. 508 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 5: You know, they want to bring in someone who they 509 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 5: feel like is their guy or have their pick at 510 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 5: quarterback if they're gonna be in bed with them. 511 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta have the right tools. 512 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 2: Speaking of which, Maqita tools at the Home Depot are 513 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 2: built with precision, without shortcuts, designed for the toughest jobs. 514 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 2: It's the choice for pros and the job calls for 515 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 2: the best colin. 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But check out our new channel on YouTube. 573 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 2: On YouTube again, just search two pros FSR and subscribe. 574 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 2: We are going to have our midweek awards coming up 575 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 2: here in about twelve minutes from now. 576 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: But right now it is time. Yeah, right, yes, yes, 577 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 1: all right. 578 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 6: Last weekend there's a little recap for you. 579 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 5: Win eleven and four that was big for us overall, 580 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 5: getting closer to back to five hundred forty one forty 581 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 5: four and three. 582 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 6: A lot of. 583 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 5: Games to pick from this week. Let's get it started, 584 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 5: all right, Friday Slate. We got to pick some earlier 585 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 5: games with the holiday, obviously, there's more games on Friday 586 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 5: spread out over the course into the weekend. We start 587 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 5: off with Air Force at Colorado State. The over under 588 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 5: set at forty five and a half. I like the 589 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 5: over in this case Air Force. They could be explosive, 590 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 5: especially when they hit their shot plays and Coloriado State's 591 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,239 Speaker 5: defensive struggled to get off the field, which creates a 592 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 5: good script for Air Forces drives. Plus the RAMS should 593 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 5: be able to take advantage of air Force secondary they 594 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 5: struggle this year. Take the over at forty five and 595 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 5: a half air Force at Colorado State. Next up Temple 596 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 5: at North Texas again over of sixty five and a half. 597 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 5: North Texas is one of the top tier offenses, and 598 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 5: they're averaging about somewhere the forties. I think they can 599 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 5: put up fifty on Temple, and even though Temple's offense 600 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,239 Speaker 5: has been competent, it's not great. Both teams combined, those 601 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:36,959 Speaker 5: should be able to hit the over of that sixty 602 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 5: five and a half number. Next up, San Diego State 603 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 5: at New Mexico. New Mexico's one of the tougher outs 604 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 5: this season. Their defense has been a bit of a liability, 605 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 5: but San Diego State's offense has been inconsistent this year, 606 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 5: which means I think the Lobos not only are going 607 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 5: to be able to cover the one and a half, 608 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 5: but should be able to win this one outright. 609 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 6: So take in New. 610 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 5: Mexico plus one and a half taken on San Diego State. 611 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 5: Next up the Boise State minus three and a half. 612 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,239 Speaker 5: They're headed to Utah State. Look, I feel like if 613 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 5: you look at the Boise State edge on this thing, 614 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 5: they should be able to take care of business versus 615 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 5: USA State control the tempo of the game, and so 616 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,239 Speaker 5: I'd like Boise to win this one. Utah State's kind 617 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,479 Speaker 5: of a boomer bust team. I think this is a 618 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 5: bust for them, So lay the three and a half 619 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 5: with Boise on the road. ECU at FAU. The total 620 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 5: was sitting at sixty six and a half. I like 621 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 5: the under on this one. Neither offense has been really 622 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 5: explosive this year. They've kind of been bogged down by 623 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 5: penalties installed in the red zone. So you know, somewhere 624 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 5: under that sixty six and a half number to me 625 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 5: looks good for both these teams, so again the under there. 626 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 6: Indiana at Purdue. 627 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 5: Indiana has been dominant in so far this season, but 628 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 5: you know, and particularly the margin against weaker teams like 629 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 5: Purdue so far. But I think this is more about 630 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 5: what they've got coming up next week in conference championship week. 631 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 6: I think Indiana will be able to take care of 632 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 6: business when this game comfortably. 633 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 5: But at twenty eight and a half with the hook there, 634 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 5: I like Purdue and the points. As I would imagine 635 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 5: Kurt Signetti's thinking, maybe want to rest some guys too, 636 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 5: if we get up too much of this game, allow 637 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 5: some of the backups to play, get them ready for 638 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 5: Ohio State. 639 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 6: In two weeks. 640 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 5: Another one Arizona at Arizona State. The over unders said 641 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 5: at forty eight and a half. I love the over 642 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 5: of this one. Arizona's offense is usually you know, pushes 643 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 5: the tempo a bit more, and ASU's defense has leaked 644 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 5: some explosive plays like the sun Devils can throw enough 645 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 5: to punish that Wildcats attack. So I think somewhere over 646 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 5: that forty eight and a half is we're going to 647 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 5: end up for that one. Next up, you saw at 648 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 5: Kansas Utah coming up that great comeback win versus Kansas 649 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 5: State last week. I think they struggle a bit with 650 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 5: this Kansas Jayhawk team. Then the line is set at 651 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 5: eleven and a half. I like the points here. Take 652 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 5: the eleven and a half with Kansas Utah is physical, 653 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 5: but they can get stuck sometimes if their inability to 654 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,239 Speaker 5: do too much. Devin dan Pierre had to put them 655 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 5: on their back last week. This Jayhawks team I think 656 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 5: could hang in there without eleven and a half spread. 657 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 5: Next up, Kent State at Northern Illinois. Northern Illinois is 658 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 5: laying four and a half here at home. Northern Illinois 659 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 5: has the superior run game and trench play, and given 660 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 5: the time of wather and what the weather should look 661 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 5: like for this matchup, I love Northern Illinois laying the 662 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 5: four and a half points here to outright beat Kent 663 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 5: State cover that number. Moving on, Louisiana Monroe at Louisiana. 664 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 5: Louisiana's laying nine and a half points here. Look, Louisiana's 665 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 5: got the better, better roster, they're more consistent rivalry spot 666 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 5: here too. 667 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 6: I just I like Louisiana in this spot. 668 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:47,959 Speaker 5: I think they'll be able to take advantage of them 669 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 5: some mismatches that they've got latethan nine and a half 670 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 5: points here. Next up, last one of the Friday slate 671 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 5: and Maryland plus four at Michigan State up in East Lansing. 672 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 5: Whether it could be a factor here, but Maryland's game 673 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,719 Speaker 5: has kind of been that high ceiling something that Michigan 674 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 5: State is unable to find an uneven offense they've had 675 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 5: this year. The one concern is Maryland's rush defense. They 676 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 5: have struggled. Whether it should be bad. I think they 677 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 5: step up for this one could be a tight game, 678 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 5: but I do think Maryland can cover the plus four 679 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 5: here on the road Saturday, Toledo at Central Michigan over 680 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 5: under set a forty four and a half. I love 681 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 5: the over of this one between these two teams. Toledo's 682 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 5: offense as usually very efficient, Central Michigan's defense has been vulnerable. 683 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 6: To some big plays too, So. 684 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 5: If Central Michigan can contribute a little bit, I do 685 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 5: think this one creeps over that forty four and a 686 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 5: half despite some of the weather in the air for Saturday, 687 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 5: at least projected weather. Next up ECU at FAU. I'm 688 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 5: trying to think we've already done that one. I one 689 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 5: Miami and Pitts the next one. Sorry, Miami headed to Pittsburgh. 690 00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 5: We saw the big win by pitt last week to 691 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,719 Speaker 5: put now in the ACC conversation. In the race, Miami's 692 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 5: in it too. The winner of this one still needs 693 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 5: some help. The play I like in this one is 694 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 5: the over of fifty and a half. If you're Miami 695 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 5: on the outside looking at playing that aec championship game, 696 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 5: if you do get up, you're gonna have to win big, 697 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 5: and we know that they can do that. Pittsburgh can 698 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 5: put up some points as well. So as much as 699 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 5: I look up these old Pitt games with Pat and 700 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,399 Speaker 5: Arduzi being defensive in nature, I think this is one 701 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,799 Speaker 5: that has the chance of going over that number at 702 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 5: fifty and a half. So play that. Next up wake 703 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 5: Forest at Duke Duke Lane one and a half. Duke's 704 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 5: still in the conversation for the ACC as well. It's 705 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 5: a must win for them. I think Duke's got the 706 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 5: more reliable defense, obviously higher end quarterback as well. I 707 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 5: think they can cover that number at home easily, even 708 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,879 Speaker 5: though wake Forest has had a pretty solid season. Next 709 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 5: up Missoo Lane two and a half on the road 710 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,839 Speaker 5: down in Failed vill versus Arkansas. Missouri's offense has been 711 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 5: an incredible especially with the mod hardy running the football 712 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 5: and Bo Perbula coming back to has been able to 713 00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,120 Speaker 5: help them. So I'd like Missoo here on the road 714 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 5: versus team that you know, to be quite honest, doesn't 715 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 5: really much postseason aspirations here. Miszoo kind of on the 716 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 5: outside looking in that regard, but still has the opportunity 717 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 5: to cover what should be an easy number on the road. 718 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,280 Speaker 5: Next up unlv Lands seven and a half at Nevada 719 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 5: Udo V's offense has been significantly ahead of where Nevada's 720 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 5: defense has. 721 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 6: Been this year. 722 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,879 Speaker 5: The Rebels, too, have been one of the better group 723 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 5: of six teams, so I love them laying seven and 724 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 5: a half on the road. And then finally Notre Dame 725 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 5: at Stanford. It's going to be late ten thirty Eastern 726 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 5: time on Saturday night. However, the over runners set at 727 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,319 Speaker 5: fifty and a half. This thing is going to be 728 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,359 Speaker 5: all Notre Dame, a little bit of Stanford. It's going 729 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 5: to be close. But I do think the fighting Irish, 730 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 5: another team with no conference championship game to play in, 731 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 5: will put up a big number versus Stanford team that 732 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 5: is coming off one of its best wins last week 733 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,880 Speaker 5: in the big game. Now they've got to turn on 734 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 5: and play Notre Dame on the best teams in the country. 735 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,799 Speaker 5: Notre Dame will put up a big number. The over 736 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 5: of fifty and to a half in that one, and 737 00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 5: that is Quinns wins for week four teams. 738 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 2: I'm talking about eleven, eleven and four last week on 739 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 2: a heater. So the E C U F A U 740 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 2: point total sixty six and a half. The only thing 741 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 2: I saw that may have changed was Louisiana Monroe and ull. 742 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 1: Is now eight and a half. So Louisian is an 743 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 1: eight point favorite. So there you go. Take that point. 744 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 6: I'll say, I'll take that point. 745 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 2: Now I'm going to build this parlay that I'm going 746 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 2: to build this parlay. What are your if you had 747 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 2: to guess, what do you think a one hundred dollars 748 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 2: payout on this parlay is going to be? 749 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: As I as I this? 750 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 6: You mean a one dollar bet on the pal of. 751 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 1: Bet or you can bet ten dollars millions? Okay, all right, so. 752 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,320 Speaker 5: Million it has to it has to be over a million, 753 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 5: and then like one point five maybe two. 754 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's eighteen games, right. 755 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 2: Because last week was just under one point six million 756 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 2: on the parlay we did crazy. 757 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,439 Speaker 4: If they were to ever hit like, oh god, if 758 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 4: any of your you're like, if all of them were 759 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 4: to hit like you're four off. 760 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 3: Somebody probably did what you said last week. He did 761 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 3: four off. 762 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,240 Speaker 1: They got clothes, they got real four off. 763 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 5: So one gentleman actually tweeted at us he I think 764 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:20,319 Speaker 5: picked thirteen of them. 765 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he. 766 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 6: Had gotten Miami at that. 767 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:24,400 Speaker 3: Uh. 768 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 6: It ended up moving down to seventeen, not eighteen and 769 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:26,800 Speaker 6: a half. 770 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 5: He pushed that bet and then he lost one other 771 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 5: but other than that, he was right. 772 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 6: There in it. He would one. 773 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 2: Because the other thing too is you know, maybe there's 774 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,440 Speaker 2: people that listen to the podcast of the show and 775 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 2: by the time that goes out, some of these lines 776 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,399 Speaker 2: could have changed. So you know, there's there's also that, 777 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 2: you know, when you're picking this far in advance, but 778 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 2: to go a lot. 779 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 6: There's times when that that last final segment. 780 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 5: We used to do it at that wouldn't even go 781 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 5: out at all, depending on you know, the production. 782 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,399 Speaker 6: All that behind the scenes. It's been cleaned up though 783 00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 6: in the past couple months. 784 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:09,359 Speaker 9: Wow, all right, I mean, uh, you know, I think 785 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 9: we missed the weekend there on nobody's here to defend them, 786 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 9: so you know, it's what's the probably a. 787 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 3: Great week anyway, So what are you talking about? 788 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 2: By the way, I do know this Sesame Street help 789 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 2: raise all of us. Now it's our turn donate this 790 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,240 Speaker 2: holiday season at sesame dot org because the world needs 791 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 2: Sesame and Sesame needs you. Up next, we are going 792 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,279 Speaker 2: to have our Midweek Awards, the Good, the Bad, and 793 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:35,800 Speaker 2: the Ugly right here at FSR. 794 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,799 Speaker 7: Be sure to catch live editions of two Pros and 795 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 7: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and 796 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 7: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific, Two. 797 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 2: Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, 798 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,799 Speaker 2: Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here coming up top 799 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 2: of next hour. A little over ten minutes from now, 800 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,359 Speaker 2: Petros Papadakas is going to stop by. 801 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:56,919 Speaker 1: We'll catch up with the old pe then. 802 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,279 Speaker 2: This show is sponsored though by Draftking Sports Book, an 803 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 2: official sports betting partner of the NFL and NBA. And 804 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,839 Speaker 2: right now use the promo code two pros to claim 805 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,839 Speaker 2: your special offer at DraftKings. Again, that's promo code two 806 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,600 Speaker 2: Pros at DraftKings. The crown is yours, Brady Quinn, I 807 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:15,320 Speaker 2: have your answer for you, uh, the seventeen leg parlay 808 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,280 Speaker 2: that are your Quinn's wins that you've made of every 809 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:23,399 Speaker 2: single one of your picks hits this weekend. You said 810 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 2: it was going to be one hundred dollars pays out. 811 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 2: What one point five million was the was the guest there? 812 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 3: Yeah? 813 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, try five point seven million. 814 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 2: Hell yeah, so one hundred dollars on a leg parlay 815 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,880 Speaker 2: that are Brady Quinn's. Quinn's wins for the week in 816 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 2: college football will pay you out five point seven million. 817 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 3: That's crazy, man, I. 818 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 1: Mean one dollar will pay out fifty seven thousand. 819 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 3: If you won, I'm splitting a million. Are you? Are you? 820 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 3: Are you doing it? Jonas? 821 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 4: Like? 822 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,719 Speaker 3: Are you doing this? When you hear these these things? 823 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 4: And then maybe adding your own little stink to it 824 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 4: when you do it. 825 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,960 Speaker 5: It's a little stank, no live. When we got the 826 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 5: first two last week on. 827 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,160 Speaker 6: Friday, I was like, all right, we're on a little 828 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,760 Speaker 6: roll here. Let's see what happens on Saturday. Nice damn 829 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,440 Speaker 6: Miami almost lost sleep over it. 830 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,760 Speaker 5: By the way, if you went understurved sleep, let mattress 831 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,240 Speaker 5: firm match you with a temper pediic shot. 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You're the good? 843 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,840 Speaker 4: All right, let's go with my man Joe Burrow coming 844 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:51,800 Speaker 4: back and playing for the Cincinnati Bengals. 845 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 3: That's good. Also, stay in Ohio. We got sha Door Sanders. 846 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 4: He's starting this week and we get to see him 847 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,239 Speaker 4: against a team like the forty nine Ers. 848 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, perfect timing, Baby. 849 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:05,080 Speaker 1: Brady, you're the bad. 850 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 6: Yeah. 851 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 5: I'm gonna stay with the reaction to Shador Sanders starting 852 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 5: playing the whole thing. 853 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,400 Speaker 6: It's like the guys a rookie. Can we let him play? 854 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 5: Can we not overreact about everything, whether you like him 855 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,440 Speaker 5: or you don't like he's gonna throw picks. He's a rookie. 856 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:24,759 Speaker 5: It happens. He's gonna throw touchdown passes. You know, in 857 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 5: some cases it's a screen not that difficult to do, 858 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,920 Speaker 5: and it'll make some better throws better touchdown passes too. 859 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,800 Speaker 5: On the good side, like, can we just not overreact 860 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,680 Speaker 5: and get wild about all this? Can we just watch 861 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:40,800 Speaker 5: him play as a quarterback and appreciate it. 862 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,439 Speaker 2: Jonas with the ugly I'm gonna go with the team. 863 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:47,080 Speaker 2: The shud or Sanders beat and he didn't do necessarily 864 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,440 Speaker 2: a whole lot. But the Las Vegas Raiders are maybe 865 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,880 Speaker 2: the worst team in football. You can argue the Titans, 866 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 2: but I think people kind of expected the Titans to 867 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 2: be bad. I don't think anybody expected the Raiders to 868 00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,400 Speaker 2: be this bad. And poor Chip Kelly. He's got to 869 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,879 Speaker 2: take his six million dollars a year and go back 870 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:03,960 Speaker 2: to it the holidays. 871 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 1: What a bummer. 872 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 3: Dang chip Ugly