1 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Good Mom's Bad Choices. I'm Erica and 2 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: I'm Meila. Happy Wednesday, Happy hump Day. 3 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 2: How are you? I'm good? I'm good. 4 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 3: I feel like this is like a very intense question 5 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 3: since March. Every time you ask me, I'm like, how 6 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 3: am I doing? How am I really feeling? Am I 7 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 3: feeling good? Am I feeling crazy? I'm feeling pretty good. 8 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 3: I feel like COVID is really making me check in 9 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 3: with my mental health because every time you ask me, 10 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 3: I'm thinking really deeply about my feelings. 11 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 2: So I'm doing good. How are you doing? 12 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: I'm good today. I'm good. You know how mushroom therapy 13 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: has been working. And I just feel like, you know, 14 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: I'm really grateful that we live in LA and that 15 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: I have space, and you know, there's good days, there's 16 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: bad days. They've obviously extended the lockdown or the stay 17 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: at home order, which has been very you know, not good. 18 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 2: But what am I gonna do? 19 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: What am I supposed to do? Gotta figure it out? 20 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: Summer campus pretty much canceled for me, which you know 21 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:24,639 Speaker 1: I'm still in denial about. 22 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 3: But whatever, Yeah, yeah, that fucking say a home order 23 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 3: extension yesterday? If you would have asked me, was it yesterday? 24 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 3: I was having I was a little tight. I was 25 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 3: like a little little tight. Eric is like what the 26 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 3: I think? I was already tight and she was very tight. 27 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 3: And then it was the yelling, barking at me. I 28 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 3: was like telling me to do twenty things at one time. 29 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 3: Do this, do that, do that. I was like, bitch, what, I. 30 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 2: Can only do so many things at once. I can 31 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 2: only roll up on emails. I literally looked over her. 32 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 3: She was plus, dude, I'm like, sorry, sorry, I've asked 33 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 3: you to have fourteen arms at one time. 34 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: I was like is this I was like, are you 35 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: turning into me? 36 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? 37 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 3: You don't like how that feels, do you? And then 38 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 3: on top of me already having anxiety, and then I 39 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 3: get like three text messages like. 40 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 2: Extended till July. 41 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 1: I was like, so literally like. 42 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 2: I saw this in a horror movie, but today Eric 43 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 2: has had rolled me ap line. I calmed down. 44 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: I think I ate, she ate she got her hair 45 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: done and she looks really cute, and it's cute. 46 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 2: It's cute. 47 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: I cut Jamila's hair. I'm really proud of that. I'm 48 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: open the Erica is mobile spat I'm gonna have my 49 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: own mobile spot, not just Mila, And I'm doing ear cuts. 50 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: I know how to cut around the ear. That's probably 51 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: all I know how to do, really, but very precisely there. 52 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:55,119 Speaker 1: So if you're looking for that like real straight like sideburn, look, 53 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: I got you. 54 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 3: That's because I instructed her seventy nine times. Don't cut 55 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 3: my side don't cut my cyburns. Don't cut my cyburns, 56 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 3: because then our friendship's over. I think when you have 57 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 3: short hair, it's very important that the sideburns have like 58 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 3: a sharp sir. 59 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, then that you can have a little if you 60 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 1: want to do a little baby curl, you can. Yeah, 61 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 1: I got it. I used to short hair. 62 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 3: I used to because if you fucked that up, it's 63 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 3: just like everything's very corcial. 64 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,679 Speaker 1: It's it's it's the termining factor between looking like a 65 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: dude and a woman. It's like yes, yes, yeah, yeah, anyway. 66 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 2: I look like a woman. 67 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: Jamia looks like a woman, and she's okay today. 68 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 2: Today, Oh my god, speaking of that, that's funny that 69 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 2: you ask me for he today. So Eric and I. 70 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 3: Decided that because we care about ourselves, and we care 71 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 3: about our mental health and COVID is against us, and 72 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 3: it's been constantly fluctuating that we were going to actively 73 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 3: put effort into our mental health, and so we both 74 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 3: joined better health dot Com, which is really cool because 75 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 3: it's like an online therapy and you can pick you 76 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 3: can pick from thousands or like maybe I like hundreds 77 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 3: betterhelp dot com sorry, from hundreds of therapists and you know, 78 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 3: like you would think that, and you're like, god, if 79 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 3: you only have like five therapists I can choose from, 80 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 3: And it kind of feels like a dating service because 81 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 3: so you know, we love those, so that's kind of fun. 82 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 3: So you see what they look like, their age, if 83 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 3: they're male, they're female, if they're black, if they're white. 84 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 3: They ask you all these very deep questions to evaluate 85 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 3: where you're at, howled you are, if you're religious, if 86 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 3: you're spiritual, if you're LGBTQ plus, and basically, as I 87 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 3: went through the levels of maintaining my mental health and 88 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 3: working on it, one of. 89 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 2: The questions is like, how do you feel today? Do 90 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 2: you feel very depressed? You will not. 91 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 3: You have anxious thoughts every day often not often, I'm like, 92 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 3: what day are you talking about? Because it's currently from 93 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 3: hour to hour, you know, I can't go on with life. 94 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 2: And also I'm having the best day ever, So I 95 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 2: thought that was pretty cool. And you know, we're always 96 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 2: talking about our mental health. So I encouraged Erica. 97 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 3: To join me on this journey so that when we 98 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 3: come out of u quarantine, we're just going to be 99 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 3: fucking bombed. Our health is going to be together, our 100 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 3: mental health is going to be together, hopefully. 101 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: And honestly, like it's so affordable because I have a 102 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 1: therapist and I haven't I even I haven't seen I 103 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: haven't been my therapist in a while a because it's 104 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: fucking expensive, and this is actually affordable, Like this is 105 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 1: like you can, like we can. I can afford this 106 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: and not feel bad about it, and like I can. 107 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 1: You can actually I can actually talk to my therapist 108 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: virtually if I want, and I can go back and 109 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 1: forth with her as much as I want or him 110 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: whoever that is. And I just think like especially now 111 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 1: while we're in while we're in quarantine, like I as 112 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 1: a parent for me, like my mental health is up 113 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: and down, like it's questionable. 114 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 2: Anxiety levels are real, so. 115 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: Like if you are out there and you're feeling like 116 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: maybe you need to talk to someone. I really I 117 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: highly highly highly highly recommend Better Help. You can really 118 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,679 Speaker 1: find the therapist that really aligns with you, that matches 119 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 1: with you, that speaks to you. Whether you need a woman, 120 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: a man, a woman of color, a man of color, 121 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 1: maybe you don't care about the color whatever, if you 122 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: just need help. I highly recommend it because I've been 123 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: using it and it's honestly it really it's really been 124 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:24,359 Speaker 1: a game changer for me. 125 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 2: And if you use our link that will be helpful. 126 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 2: It's Betterhelp dot com backslash GMBC. 127 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 3: So go to Betterhelp dot com backslash gmbc and then 128 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 3: you can thank us later for being sane when all 129 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 3: this shit is. Join us on the journey of better health, 130 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 3: better health, and better help, because we we all need. 131 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 1: Help out here. 132 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 2: Betterhelp dot Com backslash GMBC. 133 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: Anyway, I'm excited because we have a guest today. 134 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 2: Yes we do. 135 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 3: And speaking of Corona and speaking of and quarantine and 136 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 3: all this weird timing that we're in. 137 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 2: A part of the reason my mental health. 138 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 3: Is questionable is because I'm fucking stressed because I have 139 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 3: a five year old and that's a very crucial time 140 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 3: and learning. I feel like in like developmental cornerstones and 141 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 3: I'm fucking failing right. 142 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: And like we're responsible for a kids development now more 143 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: than ever. We can't blame it. I can't depend on 144 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: the teachers for my kids development. So we have the 145 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: founder of Giant Leap, or Hoffman. Welcome, Ri Hello, And 146 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: he's the founder and CEO of Giant Leap, which Giant 147 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: Leaf provides knowledge, clarity, and guidance about your child's development 148 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: to help you make better data driven decisions from the 149 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: comfort of your own home. Because we're all home. 150 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 2: And I'm sure all of you are not that great 151 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 2: at homeschooling. Can't just be a. 152 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: Welcome Mari, thank. 153 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 4: You, Erica, thank you Milla for having me. 154 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: And where are you joining us from? 155 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 5: So I'm joining you both from from where I was born, 156 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 5: from Israel, from Tel Aviv, Israel. Don't be too jealous, 157 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 5: get us, come get us right, and then we'll see. 158 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: This is our this is our farthest distanced interview ever. Yes, 159 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 1: so we're a social social distancing serious. 160 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 3: I'm feeling very international today, being feeling very international, knowing 161 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 3: that O is there and we're here and we're connecting. 162 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 2: Also I'm also really jealous. 163 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,719 Speaker 3: I wish I was in Israel right now because it's beautiful. 164 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 2: It really is. 165 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 4: It is, it is, and I and I, uh, you know, 166 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 4: invite you both. 167 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 5: To come here and you know, and enjoy Tel Aviv. 168 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 4: It's really it's a good place to be in, especially 169 00:08:59,440 --> 00:08:59,839 Speaker 4: in the summer. 170 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 1: By I've been before and it was gorgeously I've been before. Yeah, 171 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 1: I went there, and I went to Jerusalem and it 172 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 1: was so I went to the Dead Sea. 173 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 2: It was just it was. 174 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: Everyone in Tel Avion was so damn nice, so nice. 175 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: Everyone's nice. The food is amazing. 176 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:18,959 Speaker 2: Really are they nice? Because like I think, I feel. 177 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 3: Like, well, forget I can say this because I'm very 178 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 3: close to the Israeli. 179 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 1: I realize you're talking to it. 180 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell him first of all, I know he's 181 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 3: about to agree. 182 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 2: We grew up in the Valley. So if you guys 183 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:31,559 Speaker 2: don't know, you guys joining us. 184 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:33,559 Speaker 3: Eric and I from the Valley, which is a suburb 185 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 3: of Los Angeles which there's lots of Israelis, and I 186 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 3: grew up with them. My best friends Israeli. I have 187 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 3: fucking the whole Israeli family. Like in borderline speak, heeper. 188 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 2: The women are not that nice. The men are nice. 189 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 3: The women are like, what do you want to eat? 190 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 3: Don't there's no high hor are you when you're taking 191 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 3: to order? The women have like stone cold faces. They 192 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 3: don't funk around. 193 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 2: Am I kidding? No? 194 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 5: That's true, very direct, very abrupt, and very tough, very 195 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 5: aggressive because you know, we grow, you know, we are 196 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 5: in a tough neighborhood. And uh, I guess that had 197 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 5: you know, has its effect on us. 198 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 4: So it sounds like my. 199 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: Sounds like my people. 200 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's about sugarcoating. 201 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 2: No sugarcoating, Just tell me what the fuck it's really. 202 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 2: Men are also fine as fun women too. Those reelis 203 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 2: are fine. 204 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: I know, I mean look at or then or is. 205 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 2: Fine if you guys haven't had he handsome. When I 206 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 2: got I was like, oh okay, hey. 207 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 3: Ri, I wasn't expecting that giantly It's like, I guess, 208 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 3: be like some nerdy guy talking about nerdy stuff. I 209 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 3: was like, oh, I should have done my makeup. No, 210 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 3: but I'm so happy that you reached out to us. 211 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 3: And it's so strange because I feel like, you know, 212 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 3: we know you. 213 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 2: Maybe's is rarely roots. 214 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: Can you can you tell us how you started giantly 215 00:10:58,000 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: or what inspired you to start it? 216 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 5: Sure, so you know, I started life at a very 217 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 5: different point than you know, what people would think of 218 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 5: when they think about a founder and CEO. So when 219 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 5: I was growing up, I struggled a lot. I actually 220 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 5: couldn't read until I was twelve, and then during my childhood, 221 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 5: what I saw was how everything I was good at 222 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 5: was overlooked and everything I was bad at was highlighted. 223 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 4: And what I saw was. 224 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 5: You know, I come from a family that you know, 225 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 5: my parents were pretty aware of a dad that is 226 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 5: a professor and a mom that's a teacher, and I 227 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 5: saw how they were lost in the world of child 228 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 5: development trying to help me. So I knew that one 229 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 5: day I would want to solve this for parents and 230 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 5: children because I knew what happened with me. And I said, 231 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 5: you know what I'm You know, my parents loved me. 232 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 5: I have great parents. If not, I wouldn't be here 233 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 5: talking to you both. But I struggled a lot as 234 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 5: a kid. I mean, think about what it is to 235 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 5: be a child in a school where you were the 236 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 5: dumbest skid in class because you're not the one reading 237 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:06,199 Speaker 5: until you're twelve years old, so you can imagine that 238 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 5: that that is that is pretty tough experience. So that's 239 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 5: that's what you know. Then I said one day I 240 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 5: would want to do it. And then after kind of 241 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 5: you know, going through different positions in the tech scene, 242 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 5: both here in Israel, uh in the US, also in Brazil, 243 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 5: the three countries that I got to work in, I said, okay, 244 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,439 Speaker 5: now it's a good time to start a risky business. 245 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 5: And I convinced one of my friends to do it 246 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 5: together with me, and and thank god it all happened. 247 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: That's amazing, and so what so tell tell our listeners 248 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:41,319 Speaker 1: how what basically what's the process of giant leave and 249 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: like what exactly are you guys, I guess analyzing four 250 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: parents at home? 251 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:50,599 Speaker 5: Sure, so you know, we said, we said, wow, you 252 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:52,959 Speaker 5: know today think about you both, you know, kind of 253 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 5: like what you also described earlier to our listeners of 254 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 5: how you get lost in the world of child development. 255 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 5: How there's like so much noise and trying to figure 256 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 5: out what should I do, what's right for my child 257 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 5: at their development stage and their skill set is a 258 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 5: tough job for anyone. 259 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 4: And then we said, well, you know what. 260 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,839 Speaker 5: What if we could create a platform where parents will 261 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 5: be able to evaluate their children's brain, language, social and 262 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 5: motor development from home without having to depend on anyone, 263 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 5: basically helping parents become completely independent about decision making regarding 264 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 5: their child's development and provide them with a concise quarterly 265 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 5: action plan of what to do with this data. So 266 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 5: we partnered with many different research researchers. We were very 267 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 5: lucky in the very beginning where the Texas Medical Center, 268 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 5: you know, we approached them and we tell them what 269 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 5: we were going to build. They said, you know what, 270 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 5: We're willing to help you do this crazy idea. Why 271 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 5: don't you come to the METZA in Houston. And for 272 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 5: about a year we built a room to mimic a 273 00:13:55,800 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 5: home environment. Oh wow, filmed all the sessions and know 274 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 5: they say, I always joke about I say, you know, 275 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 5: first of all, I got to see all walks of life, 276 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 5: you know, you get to meet all people. 277 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 4: And another thing is that I say, like. 278 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 5: What, you know what in one other situations where parents, 279 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 5: you know, parents just trust uh to ISRAELI. 280 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 4: Guys doing this without the medical ceter involved. 281 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 5: Right, So we were able to do this and and 282 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 5: Houston and parents were coming in and out, and we 283 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 5: were understanding, you know, we try to understand what are 284 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 5: the biggest challenges for parents and and we're also partnering 285 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 5: with a big team of researchers to understand what are 286 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 5: the recent breakthroughs UH that occurred in child development in 287 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 5: recent years. Then we understood that you can evaluate a 288 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 5: lot of these different skills, like understanding child core competencies 289 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 5: in math and language, and understanding if they're going to 290 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 5: struggle in elementary school when they're four years old, and 291 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 5: you can intervene much earlier where you can understand if 292 00:14:56,880 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 5: the child has an early aptitude for math also there 293 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 5: four years old, and you can actually nurture that from 294 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 5: as young as this age. And there's all these opportunities 295 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 5: that you can miss out without having this proper guidance 296 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 5: and without somebody simplifying all these scientific data something that 297 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 5: you can understand and act on. And we worked a 298 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 5: lot on that, like how do you take all this 299 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 5: science and stuff and you make it digestible to the 300 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 5: average parent where they can look at it and they 301 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 5: can say, oh, I are not I know what to do, 302 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 5: just show you data. It's another thing to make it 303 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 5: actionable and that's that's the part that took us a 304 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 5: long time to really figure out. And they were like 305 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 5: to have many stories of like, you know, how this happened, 306 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 5: and like what are the challenges we went through the process? 307 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 5: You know, you you you know it's it's I always 308 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 5: say for other entrepreneurs, it's really easy to have ideas. 309 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 5: It's really tough to make them a you know, great product. 310 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 5: There's so many steps along the way. 311 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: Well, I think, like I think of so my kid, 312 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: or I think about even me, Like you normally, like 313 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: you don't know your child is struggling or that, or 314 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: what they're great at until they're presented with a challenge 315 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: or they you know, excel at something. But if you 316 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: could find out before that, like you said, and nurture 317 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: those things beforehand, Like for me, like I struggled with math, 318 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: and I've struggled with math my entire life. I've honestly, 319 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: I feel like it's genetic. I feel like it's passed 320 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: down through a long line on my mom's side, I've convinced. 321 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: But like like that that then that side of me 322 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: wasn't ever really nurtured and know, and it wasn't addressed 323 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: until way later in the game, and my confidence had 324 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: already been like defeated by that point, you know what 325 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: I mean. Even now, like when people ask me math questions, 326 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: I'm always like, oh god, I'm giving calculator. I'm like 327 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: counting on my toes and my fingers and shit, like 328 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: it's so embarrass like when I'm leaving the tip. Oh 329 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: my god, it's embrassing when I'm leaving the tip at 330 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: a restaurant, like, yeah, you're not good at the time, 331 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, I'm good. I can do it on 332 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,439 Speaker 1: the phone. But like even just a simple math like 333 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,360 Speaker 1: adding like I'd be like, okay, let me try two 334 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: plus fourteen carry the one, And like, I think too 335 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: often we don't even I didn't even think about this, 336 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: Like I didn't think about like giving my like where 337 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: could I possibly like find out besides my daughter's school, 338 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 1: which you know, when we have kids that are five, 339 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: we drop them off to school. We asked them at 340 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: the end of the day, how was school. They don't 341 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: say shit, and or they say it was fine, it 342 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: was fun. What'd you do played? I'm like, what what's 343 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: that all you did? Like, and like, you know, even 344 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: when I'm talking to her teachers, like they'll give me information, 345 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 1: but they're they're dealing with an array of students. Just 346 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 1: not until I have like a one on one parent 347 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 1: conference once a year or twice a year that I 348 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: really get to understand where my daughter's at really, and 349 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: and even that is not scientifically backed, it's just kind 350 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,360 Speaker 1: of like, well, she did a trust, she did a puzzle, 351 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: and it was she struggled. You know. It's like, so 352 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:12,239 Speaker 1: I think some having a platform like Giant Leap is 353 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: so beneficial and such a really like you said, it 354 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:21,120 Speaker 1: really puts the power back into our hands, and especially 355 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: now all of us at home, it's a good time 356 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 1: to really kind of sit back and see where are 357 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,360 Speaker 1: your kids at, What have they been learning all year? 358 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:30,679 Speaker 1: Where are they struggling? What can I do to nurture 359 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 1: those things? Even though I'm you know, I'm no homeschooler, 360 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: but I mean. 361 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 3: I'm definitely not a homeschooler, but I feel so fucked 362 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:42,439 Speaker 3: up because I do. 363 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 2: Obviously I'm a parent. I care about my kid. 364 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 3: I care about the education and I and I know 365 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 3: that like she's a bright child, but I also, just 366 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 3: like like you said, as a as a kid, like 367 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:52,880 Speaker 3: I like to write. 368 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 2: I'm a writer. 369 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 3: My spelling is shit. Even as an adult, I'm like, 370 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 3: am I just am I just lexic? Like I'm literally 371 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 3: just not writing what I'm thinking sometimes, And like you said, 372 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 3: I get anxiety if I'm in somewhere and I'm like, 373 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 3: has someone has to read something I've written or I've 374 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 3: spelled something wrong. I remember my dad and my parents 375 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 3: getting on me so much about it as a kid 376 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 3: that it did make me develop some kind of like 377 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 3: insecurity about it, you know, because I'm like, I'm not 378 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 3: that strong of a speller, which I mean ultimately could 379 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 3: have prevented me from writing, which could prevent me. 380 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 2: From like my life's path. 381 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: But like, see, but the thing is is like maybe 382 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: had you had something like Giant Leaf, they could have said, Okay, 383 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 1: she might not be great at spelling, but she's really 384 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 1: great at comprehension. She underspreends, and she knows how she 385 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: knows how to tell a story or she knows how 386 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: to understand a story digest it and like and that's 387 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: like you said, like we often don't celebrate, you know, 388 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: the winds. It's always about like what are you not 389 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: good at? 390 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know exactly. 391 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 5: That's why we say that that child development is a 392 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 5: is a complex science. 393 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 4: And also that's. 394 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 5: The big advantage of what we have today with technology, 395 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 5: with the fact that we can build artificial brains. 396 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 4: So what do I mean by that? Let me break 397 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 4: it down. 398 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 5: No, no, So nobody has all the older knowledge, right, 399 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 5: nobody is both a neuropsychologist, a speech therapist, an educator, 400 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 5: and occupational therapists. But in software you can actually combine 401 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 5: every all this knowledge together. And that's what the big 402 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 5: advantage of artificial brains or software has. By empowering the 403 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 5: parent to make data driven decisions, we can actually kind 404 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 5: of like have all this data consolidated in one place 405 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,479 Speaker 5: for the parent. And and that was the big idea 406 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,640 Speaker 5: when we did gintly. We said, Okay, how do we 407 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 5: get to know a couple of things, right? How do 408 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 5: we first gamify? Gamify it to way it'll be fun 409 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 5: for the child, but we'll not feel like a test, 410 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 5: so we can get really accurateated. That was one of 411 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 5: the first things. Then we understood that it also we 412 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 5: need to really understand the parent, right, because we need 413 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 5: to understand, for example, milief, if you want to be 414 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 5: really involved or are you one of do you know 415 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 5: kind of like a hands on parent or are you 416 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 5: one of those parents that wants to outsource a lot 417 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 5: of stuff, uh, and not want to do not want 418 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 5: to be as hands on when you know, regarding your 419 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 5: child's develpment. And only by doing both both of these 420 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 5: processes we can actually find this good fit. By understanding 421 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 5: the child, their needs, their skill set, the opportunities for 422 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 5: nurturing specific skills, and then the parental involvement. And that's 423 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 5: how you get to a complete puzzle, by providing really 424 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 5: good guidance and doing it also in a cadence that 425 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 5: will be they will feel comfortable. So then we say 426 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 5: your child makes big leaps in their development every three months, right, 427 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 5: think about your five year. 428 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 4: Old, your four year old. 429 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:48,199 Speaker 5: They acquire more vocabulary, they learn these fine motor skills 430 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 5: and things develop. They suddenly, you know, gain better thinking 431 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 5: about things. 432 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 4: But you will not know this. 433 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 5: If you'll now you'll won't have a very tellgient way 434 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 5: to monitor these things. And like you said, school will 435 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 5: do it maybe some you know, you know, once in 436 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 5: a while, and they just have the educational component, not 437 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 5: everything I mentioned. 438 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 4: Uh, And that's what we're trying to do it. Jilt 439 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 4: and trying to build it. 440 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 5: As we said in the earlier to have all this 441 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,199 Speaker 5: from the comfort of your home, so you will be 442 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 5: able to do it and act on the different information 443 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 5: that we provide you with. 444 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: And I do I really love that there is that 445 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: parent component because it's true, and like parents have to 446 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: be realistic too, because I think there's a lot of 447 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: parents that think that their hands on or like that's 448 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: the goal, right, I mean, I would love to say that. 449 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: I I would love to say I'm the super hands 450 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: on parent when it comes to my kids' education. That's 451 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: not true. It's just not and it's and a lot 452 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 1: of it. Most of it has to do with you know, 453 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: previous to COVID, I travel like ninety percent of the year, 454 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: almost seventy percent of the year for work, so I 455 00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 1: can't be that involved. Whereas like, you know someone who 456 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 1: is like and that's good and like the fact that 457 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: you take you kind of take both of those together, 458 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: and like, you know, parents when you guys are going 459 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: on giant Leap, because I'm going to encourage all of 460 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: our listeners to definitely go go on Giant Leap and 461 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: have your kids take this. I don't know if it's 462 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 1: called the test, or like this this the evaluation, and 463 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: be real and be real realistic about it, because you 464 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: can't really get the help that you really need if 465 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 1: you're in denial about your parenting skills, or you can. 466 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 3: You can't outsource if you don't know what you need 467 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 3: to be working on. And I also like that, like 468 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 3: it it goes at the child's face because we all 469 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 3: know kids have an attention span of one point two seconds, 470 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 3: including especially if you're a five year old, it's hard 471 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 3: to make them like want to be involved in something 472 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 3: like that. And I really like that, like you mentioned 473 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 3: it does it in every in quarters that or every 474 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 3: three months are kids to develop. So that's the crazy 475 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 3: thing about parenting. And I don't think I realized until 476 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 3: I became a parent, because I had all these helps 477 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 3: and dreams of like what kind of amazing fucking teacher 478 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 3: I was going to be wrong? But that you get 479 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 3: this new child and this new human, and then you 480 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 3: really you're getting to know them, and so you're getting 481 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 3: to know them as they're growing and they're changing. And 482 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 3: you also don't know lessons and you only know what 483 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,959 Speaker 3: you've been taught. And it's been years since that's happened. 484 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 3: So as they're developing, you have this, you know, this amazing, 485 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 3: this like platform to help you evaluate as their learning 486 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 3: and as they're changing and as they're developing. So it 487 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,400 Speaker 3: gives you the tools to kind of like check in 488 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,439 Speaker 3: and see where they're at and what you're doing in 489 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 3: every step versus like you go to the school for 490 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 3: that one fucking teacher meeting at the end of the 491 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 3: year and you're like, what. 492 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 2: The fuck are you talking about? And you have fifteen minutes. 493 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 1: And yeah, it's very vague, it's very vague. It's not Yeah, 494 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 1: it's not involved. And especially for a parent like me 495 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: who doesn't doesn't have the opportunity to be that involved, 496 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: Like that's all I get. That's all I got, and 497 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 1: you got to trust it, you know, And so like 498 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: having something like what you've created is so helpful, especially 499 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: because I I can and reevaluate every few months to 500 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 1: see what's going on, to see where they're to see 501 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: where my daughter's at. And I just feel like, also 502 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: the amount of money that people spend trying to figure 503 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,120 Speaker 1: out what's wrong with my kid. You know, I'm sure 504 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: your parents you're not reading till you were twelve I 505 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 1: can only imagine the amount of money that they spent 506 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: with therapists and all types of things trying to figure 507 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 1: out what what is not connecting. 508 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 2: And not everybody has money to throw awa. 509 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 3: And I think that was my biggest like for you guys, 510 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 3: and just for like people of color, because obviously we're 511 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,919 Speaker 3: people of color. Like a lot of the issues in 512 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 3: the United States with standardized testing, which doesn't really come 513 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 3: until later, like the fifth grade, the eighth grade, the 514 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 3: twelfth grade, is that the language doesn't always apply to 515 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,360 Speaker 3: people from different from different backgrounds. You know, if you've 516 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 3: grown up in a certain place, then you're not aware 517 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 3: of certain things. And so that's that's why I say 518 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 3: a lot of standardized tests have been proven to be 519 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 3: biased towards people of color because you may not have 520 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 3: been exposed to certain things. And then you can't fucking 521 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 3: take a test if you don't understand the language. And 522 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 3: so it's just like these little things that could help 523 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,679 Speaker 3: people at home and even especially right now, which is 524 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 3: so cool that this is this tool is free for 525 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:19,919 Speaker 3: people right now because or is the shit, and that 526 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 3: you can utilize these tools and like start early before 527 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,199 Speaker 3: the school starts to come and tell you, hey, your 528 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 3: kid has a problem, and then you're approaching it as 529 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 3: a problem versus, oh my god, you know, maybe there's 530 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 3: a little bit delay here at five or at four 531 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 3: versus at twelve. You know, the kid's feeling like he's 532 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 3: dumb or she's dumb because the students may have said something, 533 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 3: the teachers made comments, your parents have made comments, and 534 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 3: so you have this this thing of being told that 535 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 3: something's not right versus you can really do this. And 536 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 3: I think that's very important and I'm learning that right now. 537 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,880 Speaker 3: And how you like if you say, oh, you're so crazy, 538 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 3: you're so crazy, you're so crazy, your kid's gonna grow 539 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 3: up thinking they're crazy. Even if you have a brady 540 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 3: ass kid, like you're you're a brady ass kid. You're 541 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 3: a brady ass kid, you're going to begin to believe 542 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:08,719 Speaker 3: you're a brady ass kid. 543 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:09,640 Speaker 2: And then you're going to your. 544 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,880 Speaker 3: Behavior are going to is going to displeact, reflect what 545 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 3: people have been told, what you've been told, and then 546 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,880 Speaker 3: you're gonna grow up thinking you're you know, you haven't 547 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 3: been able to read till you're twelve, that you're not smart, 548 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 3: and then fuck around, and you are smart and you 549 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 3: have a whole tech business, but you could have missed 550 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 3: that because you've been given the messages you're given are 551 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 3: so are so wrong, you know. 552 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 2: So I really appreciate that you've developed this. 553 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: Amazing tool to help parents because I have a question, 554 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: how so you reading starting to read at the age 555 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 1: of twelve? What was what was the journey there? Like, 556 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: how did you actually what. 557 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 2: Was a breakthrough? 558 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, what was the breakthrough? And like what was the 559 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: journey up until that point? Because I'm sure there's a 560 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: lot of I'm sure there's a lot of parents right 561 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: now listening whose kids maybe aren't hitting the milestones that 562 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: they're supposed to be hitting. You know, they don't know 563 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 1: what to do. 564 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 5: So you know, for so obviously I come from a 565 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 5: Jewish family. 566 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 4: Right of Israeli and Judaism. 567 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 5: You have to do your permits of when you're thirteen, 568 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 5: and this is the ceremony d have to read in 569 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 5: front of your whole family. This is where, according to Judaism, 570 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 5: you become a man and everybody is there. So your uncle, 571 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 5: your aunts, that you know, everyone is there and you 572 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 5: the last thing you want to do is to humiliate 573 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 5: yourself obviously your family, right, So then I find myself 574 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 5: age twelve. You know, the only thing I'm good at 575 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 5: is martial arts and basketball. 576 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 4: That's all I know. Now doing well in school, that's it. 577 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 5: And and you know, different professionals come to my parents 578 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 5: and they started pressuring them that maybe I should consider 579 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 5: they should consider taking me the special AD because I'm 580 00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 5: not you know not you know, it's like it's way 581 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 5: too long for me to read, and maybe that will 582 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 5: be a better solution. My parents always insisted that that 583 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 5: you know that that not that they don't want it 584 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 5: for me. And then uh, this deadline starts. Suddenly they 585 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 5: tell me, okay, now you know you need to do 586 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 5: your vincement and you have a year. 587 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 4: So my mother goes and she tries. 588 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 5: She understands that she needs to find someone who would 589 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 5: teach me, who can keep me engaged and that will 590 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 5: maybe be able to teach me in a way that 591 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 5: I will be able to learn how to read in 592 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 5: front of my family. And then this rabbi, it was 593 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 5: a very nice uh Jewish rabbi came from Australia to Israel. 594 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 4: He said, listen, I have an idea. 595 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 5: Why don't we record an audio every time I teach 596 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 5: you to read the vowels and everything, and you do 597 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 5: me a favor. You're going to listen to it just 598 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 5: once every time, every lesson. You just do me a favor. 599 00:29:58,840 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 4: You listen to at. 600 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,719 Speaker 5: Least one more time before I come next time. And 601 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 5: boy was that life changing. I started to listen to it, 602 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 5: I started to record it. I started to you know, 603 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 5: before going to the basketball practice, I would listen to. 604 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 4: It again and then think about what I read. 605 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 5: And things started to integrate, you know, they start to 606 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 5: make sense on them. And you know, it's so funny 607 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 5: that that only you know, that one thing completely changed 608 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 5: my life. 609 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 4: Even when I got to university. 610 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 5: So I went to study university and one of my degrees, 611 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 5: I also did law, and that's. 612 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 4: A lot of reading. 613 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 5: And one of the things I did was the same thing, 614 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 5: same principle. I used to ask my professor to record 615 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 5: every lecture, and every time I had the same rule 616 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 5: that I would listen to the lecture at least one 617 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 5: more time. And while I was driving, I was connecting 618 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 5: my phone to my car stereo and listening to my 619 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 5: professor's lecture. And I developed this skill to really comprehend 620 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 5: a lot from listening because I was lacking and reading right, 621 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 5: And I remember that I used to quote my professor 622 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 5: and say, just like you said in lecture one, I 623 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 5: give them example, and they were like, well, how does 624 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 5: this guy remember like what I said in lecture one? 625 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,479 Speaker 5: And that was the thing I used to listen to 626 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 5: it and also kind of like document or or summarize 627 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 5: key points while I was driving. Is to pull over 628 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 5: document something that I thought was like a key point, 629 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 5: continue driving, uh, and yeah, like until today, I do it. 630 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 5: So so that's that was the breakthrough for me. 631 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 1: So it was just a matter of repetition. 632 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 5: Repetition not only but also understanding. So for example, I'm 633 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 5: the slexic right until today. Never, it's never the you know, 634 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 5: no nobody healed me from from it, right. But there 635 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 5: is a thing with the slexic people that you know, 636 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 5: your brain always compensates in other ways, right, so you 637 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 5: can be so for the slexic, i't know if you 638 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 5: ever knew this, butlexic they have a hard time reading 639 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 5: because their brain is wired in three D, right, and 640 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 5: reading is a two dimensional task. So we're really good 641 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 5: in three D thinking. That's why a lot of thelexic 642 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 5: people are entrepreneurs, because for us, something like product development 643 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 5: is easy. We see things in like a lot of 644 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 5: different ways, but reading is tough. But then a lot 645 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 5: of the Slexic also have really good listening skills, and 646 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,479 Speaker 5: I found out that if I hone in on that skill, 647 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 5: I can I can comprehend and remember a lot more 648 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 5: from a conversation and a lecture than other people. And 649 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 5: I started playing to that advantage, and that was the 650 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 5: reason also for Giant Leap to show humans at a 651 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 5: very comprehensive level and not kind of like the general 652 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 5: misconception of oh, you should only work on your readnesses 653 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 5: or should only work on your strength. Sometimes you have 654 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 5: opportunities that you don't know about, the unknowns. I want 655 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 5: to help you as a parent to discover these unknown unns. 656 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 5: And I want you to also see your child never 657 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 5: you know what, never for the sum of their weaknesses 658 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 5: like sometimes they do in school. And I want you 659 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 5: to see your child also understand their social emotional well 660 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 5: being because like you said, sometimes when you don't, there 661 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 5: are a lot of self fulfilling prophecies right where he's 662 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 5: saying like, oh, I'm dumb, Oh I'm bad, I'm bad 663 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 5: in math because I struggle in something and then it 664 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 5: just becomes this becomes that right and and gently. One 665 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 5: another thing that we do is we try to understand 666 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 5: the child's social emotional well being from these evaluations. We 667 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 5: try to understand that component. How how are there how 668 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 5: are they doing in their social skills, how are they 669 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 5: doing with their self esteem? Is that improving or there 670 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 5: are things that are actually affecting it. We're trying to 671 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 5: understand it from the evaluation and give this information for 672 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 5: you so you will know and then understand what to do. 673 00:33:59,080 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 4: Because one of the. 674 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 5: Most import things to preserves the child's self esteem, and 675 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 5: when we don't know how to do it, then it 676 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 5: could get to a slippery slope that we want to prevent. 677 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 5: And I believe all parents want to do it. Sometimes 678 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 5: they don't know. 679 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 4: That they can be the cause, you know, for damaging it. 680 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,760 Speaker 5: But I guess, you know, I'm pretty sure that nobody 681 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 5: wants to do it, but if they do, they should 682 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 5: know about it. And because I'm a big believer that 683 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 5: all parents bring children to this world to do the 684 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,320 Speaker 5: best for them. You know, not everybody succeeds, but that's 685 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:38,479 Speaker 5: everybody's intention when they get to this decision and I think, 686 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 5: you know, I really believe, I'm a true believer of this, 687 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 5: that they should be empowered to make these really intelligent 688 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 5: decisions backed by science. 689 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 4: And one of the things that we also wanted to 690 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 4: do it. 691 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 5: Giintly was we understood that there is a big disconnect 692 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 5: between what happens in educational institutions or universities or like 693 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,320 Speaker 5: breakthroughs and research and the average consumer. Right, it usually 694 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 5: happens in these research institutions trickles down, trickles down to 695 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 5: two care providers. Then until it gets to the average consumers, 696 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 5: it's like years and years away. 697 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,919 Speaker 1: Well that's so watered down, and it's just I mean, 698 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 1: and it's it can feel really intimidating too to digest exactly, 699 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,319 Speaker 1: and then to research, I'm like, wait, what what did 700 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 1: I What did they say? They said, what what am 701 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 1: I supposed to be doing? That sounds really intense. Oh god, 702 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 1: let's just hear read this book. 703 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 2: It's almost the. 704 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 3: Approach is scarier than the dive in, right, Yeah, And 705 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 3: I see that even with Luna like her just guessing, 706 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,879 Speaker 3: I'm like, did you even look at the letter? And 707 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,360 Speaker 3: just that she's overwhelmed before we've even began right, I'm like, 708 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:47,319 Speaker 3: what are you overwhelmed about? 709 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 2: And then I get over around and then I'm like 710 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,879 Speaker 2: yelling like my parents did me, Like what the hell? 711 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 2: Why won't you just focus for two minutes? And I'm like, 712 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 2: oh no, I'm sucking them up, like I'm fucked up. 713 00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 3: But I think that's the most amazing thing about like 714 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 3: having you on and having this discussion because we talk 715 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 3: about a lot of shit on here. You know, a 716 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 3: lot of are if you've been here before, these topics, 717 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 3: boy do they range. 718 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 2: But I think. 719 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 3: Overall, like our big our platform is really as people 720 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 3: as parents obviously, but as people that we are constantly 721 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 3: examining the old way we've done things, the way we've 722 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,479 Speaker 3: been taught things, and then evaluating like has this worked 723 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:22,879 Speaker 3: for us? 724 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 2: Am I learning from this? 725 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 4: Is it? 726 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 2: Is it making me grow? Is it making me a 727 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 2: better person? 728 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 3: And a part of that is as a parent, you're 729 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,359 Speaker 3: evaluating that you're seeing how the things that didn't work 730 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 3: for you as a child or from your parents, and 731 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:38,240 Speaker 3: then you're taking the conscious effort to actually. 732 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,799 Speaker 2: Change those things and make them work for you. 733 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 3: And if something is not working for you in your 734 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,919 Speaker 3: life personally and making you grow, then it's the same 735 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:47,720 Speaker 3: way it goes for your kids. You have to nourish 736 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 3: that as a parent for your kids too, so that 737 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 3: you're not making the same mistakes. 738 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,879 Speaker 1: That and I feel like too as parents, like it's 739 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 1: important at least, I think having this platform, and you know, 740 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,319 Speaker 1: talking to so many different people, I've created a toolbox, 741 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 1: like I'm creating. I'm slowly creating a toolbox of things 742 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 1: that I can pull out and use in life, in 743 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:10,320 Speaker 1: parenthood and all those things. And I think now Giant 744 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 1: Leap is definitely is part of that toolbox too, because 745 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,840 Speaker 1: it makes it so easy, honestly, like, it makes it 746 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,360 Speaker 1: so easy. And even like my daughter started doing the 747 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 1: evaluation and it's they're fun, you know, like the kids 748 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,879 Speaker 1: like they can really play the game. It's a computer game. 749 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 1: It's better than giving them the Kindle where they can 750 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 1: go watch Miraculous Ladybug and talk about boyfriends. 751 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 2: Just in case anybody's wondering, we hate Miraculous. 752 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if anyone else's kids watched this bullshit 753 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 1: ass show, but turn it off. I don't let her 754 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 1: watch it anymore. Because me and Rilla were sitting here 755 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 1: one day overhearing what they were talking about. 756 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,840 Speaker 2: I was like, what are they talking about? 757 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:51,440 Speaker 3: She's constantly chasing Adri all the whole time. And now 758 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 3: our kids have been a little corrupted because all they 759 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 3: want to ask people about, like what's romantic, what's love? 760 00:37:58,280 --> 00:37:58,879 Speaker 2: What's the date? 761 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 3: I'm like, and then they're just giggling like all school girlly, 762 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 3: so whatever. 763 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,399 Speaker 1: But yeah, but I mean like being able to hand 764 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,880 Speaker 1: them over to this evaluation and like really get real 765 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:14,319 Speaker 1: answers on like where they can improve what they're great at. 766 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 1: Like yeah, like I knew I was young. I knew 767 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,799 Speaker 1: when I was young that I loved writing too, but 768 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,880 Speaker 1: I didn't know how to tell my parents that, Like, Mom, 769 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 1: I'm ten, guess what I love to write? Like and 770 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 1: I even like a thing that to discussed, Like they 771 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 1: had no idea, you know what, And they could have 772 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,400 Speaker 1: nurtured that more for me, but I didn't know how 773 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 1: to express it. They didn't know how to find it 774 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,760 Speaker 1: or you know, evaluate it. Besides that, I was getting 775 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,399 Speaker 1: decent grades in school in my English class. 776 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 2: Like well I just had I just thought of something, 777 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 2: and now I'm pissed. I journaled. I said this before. 778 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,800 Speaker 2: I journaled a lot growing up, a lot like sometimes 779 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,959 Speaker 2: I'm like, could I even read? How was I writing this? 780 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,320 Speaker 3: And I remember, oh my god, for some reason I 781 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,720 Speaker 3: got in trouble or something a journal got taken. 782 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 2: But I might be this, like like I need to 783 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 2: take this fucking evaluation. 784 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,719 Speaker 3: I kept writing a journal jay, I kept spelling it 785 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 3: an E L journal, oh any other. And I remember 786 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 3: like a goat all this trouble at school about whatever 787 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 3: the fuck I was trying to write in that journal. 788 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 3: But my dad my parents kept saying, what the fuck 789 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 3: you kept You can't even spell journal? You can't even 790 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,320 Speaker 3: spell journal? How the fuck are you having a journal? 791 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,440 Speaker 3: And I was just like I can't spell journal? 792 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 1: I was like journal. 793 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 3: Journal, It looks good to me, But I just remember 794 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 3: like these that shit doesn't work. And I think, like 795 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,880 Speaker 3: essentially in a black household, maybe in Israeli household too, 796 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,279 Speaker 3: because you guys are kind of straightforward and like it's 797 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,759 Speaker 3: not like this sugar coated type of love. It's like, 798 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,760 Speaker 3: what the fuck are you doing type of love because 799 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:48,240 Speaker 3: that's just how you know, the culture's rock. I realized 800 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,799 Speaker 3: like how much that does not work in that type 801 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 3: of space and how much it really damaged me, Like 802 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,719 Speaker 3: I hate for people to read my shit. Now, I 803 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 3: could have been it could have fucked my whole life up. 804 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 3: But it's just like, I like that giant like it 805 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 3: gives us not only the children the tools, but it 806 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,840 Speaker 3: gives parents the tools and the empowerment to provide the 807 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,359 Speaker 3: steps necessary. Because that's the thing. It's like, right now, 808 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 3: we know we're fucking up. Okay, we know it's been 809 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 3: summer since March. Okay, we we had like. 810 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 2: One week of strong like homeschooling, homeschooling, and. 811 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:27,880 Speaker 3: Then silence, radio silence, and and it is it's guilty 812 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 3: away at me, it's it's it's scaring me. 813 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 2: And then I'm just. 814 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 3: Happy that I have this this tool that I can 815 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,239 Speaker 3: go in and not only are they evaluating, but then 816 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 3: they're giving you resources to actually help in those areas 817 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,520 Speaker 3: or develop in the areas that are already flourishing. 818 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 2: So I thank you, Ari, thank you. 819 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 4: Thanks well. 820 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,880 Speaker 5: I mean, it's it's always so reassuring to uh to 821 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 5: hear that, especially from from mothers. You know that we 822 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,440 Speaker 5: worked so hard on you work so hard on creating 823 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 5: a product. 824 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 4: And then the best thing, like the best compliments is 825 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,840 Speaker 4: where people find it useful, right, because there's so so 826 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:10,440 Speaker 4: much going into creating a product, so many people that 827 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,440 Speaker 4: are working on anything. 828 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:17,319 Speaker 5: From the design to the algorithms, to the research to uh, 829 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,319 Speaker 5: the instructions to the copywriting. 830 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,799 Speaker 4: You know, there's like so many things. And and then 831 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,279 Speaker 4: at the end of the day, what you want is 832 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 4: for people to find it useful. 833 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:30,120 Speaker 5: And then another thing that we found was how tough 834 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 5: it is to really find these different categories of things 835 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 5: we provide. Right, So, what are the right parent chat 836 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 5: activities for my child today for what you know, for 837 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 5: how they are developing now? And then what are the 838 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:49,440 Speaker 5: right services? And services could be anything from oh, my 839 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:54,280 Speaker 5: child is really good in UH language or math? Should 840 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,439 Speaker 5: I send them to a coding academy now that we're 841 00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 5: in quarantine, to let's say that they're actually struggling with 842 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,480 Speaker 5: their fine motor skills. That is that something that I 843 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:09,439 Speaker 5: can do together with them with different games that work 844 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:13,120 Speaker 5: on fine motor skills. So does this require an occupational therapist? 845 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,279 Speaker 5: And these are the things that we're trying to do 846 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:21,319 Speaker 5: and and and the last thing is obviously content. Right, 847 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:26,840 Speaker 5: what is the right content for you to consume, to read, 848 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,759 Speaker 5: or to be exposed to that you might not have 849 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:34,719 Speaker 5: been exposed to otherwise by using giant leap and then 850 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:39,960 Speaker 5: every time reevaluating and adapting to whatever feedback that we get, right, 851 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:44,080 Speaker 5: because life is all about getting dynamic feedback, kind of 852 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 5: like doubling down on what works and trying to avoid 853 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:51,240 Speaker 5: what doesn't. So that's why we're trying to every every 854 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,120 Speaker 5: two to three months try to see what has changed, 855 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 5: what did the child benefit from, and then according to 856 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:02,560 Speaker 5: that change things and also all the time changing also 857 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:06,919 Speaker 5: with the parental commitment that the parent wants to have, 858 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,120 Speaker 5: because at the end of the day, this is a 859 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,400 Speaker 5: tool for the parent, right, it's a tool for the 860 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:15,279 Speaker 5: parent to make sure that they have a pulse on 861 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,400 Speaker 5: their child and how they're developing and making sure that 862 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:22,400 Speaker 5: they're making the right decisions to as we said, nurturing 863 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 5: the skill set that we see. 864 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,120 Speaker 4: That the child can. 865 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,040 Speaker 5: We have a lot of opportunities to nurture that further 866 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:33,279 Speaker 5: or help them excel even more and understand what's really 867 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 5: important is how and when to work on areas of difficulty, 868 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,960 Speaker 5: because there's also a prioritization aspect to when should I 869 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:44,920 Speaker 5: work on my child's difficulty and how, which is really 870 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:46,080 Speaker 5: challenging for parents. 871 00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:53,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that everybody's developed differently and learns differently. Me 872 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,920 Speaker 3: and Erica's add is totally different. How we learn, it's 873 00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 3: totally different, how we create conceptualized, totally different like minds. 874 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:06,759 Speaker 2: And so we apply this one size fits all, like fucking. 875 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 3: Lesson plan for children and then you feel like something's 876 00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,359 Speaker 3: wrong with your kid and absolutely nothing's wrong with your kid, 877 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,840 Speaker 3: and then as parents, we're we're evaluating in them on 878 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,320 Speaker 3: this system that doesn't work. So you know, like everybody's 879 00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,319 Speaker 3: good a different shit, just like an adulthood. And if 880 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,080 Speaker 3: you have if you're at home listening to this and 881 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,279 Speaker 3: you have a kid that you're you're struggling with or 882 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,760 Speaker 3: you're scared that, like, you know, are they not smart 883 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,600 Speaker 3: or are they gonna fall behind because they're not? Like 884 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,400 Speaker 3: that's another thing. Like on the internet, I see my 885 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,640 Speaker 3: friend's three year old fucking reading words and that's giving 886 00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:42,319 Speaker 3: me so much anxiety. I literally text my friend yesterday like, 887 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:46,160 Speaker 3: how the fuck does Maverick no catch? She's like, I'm like, 888 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:48,640 Speaker 3: and she's just like she told me, She's like repetition, 889 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:50,719 Speaker 3: just show them every day and I'm like, okay, it's 890 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:52,840 Speaker 3: about being consistent and I and it makes us be 891 00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,560 Speaker 3: more consistent as parents too, you know, which is obviously important. 892 00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:59,000 Speaker 3: But I am I really appreciate you coming on and 893 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,600 Speaker 3: talking to us about this because you know, this is 894 00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,120 Speaker 3: something moms struggle with and and I'm happy that we're 895 00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,040 Speaker 3: talking about it openly because it's not something you have 896 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,279 Speaker 3: to struggle with alone. Right, It's not like you're the 897 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,000 Speaker 3: only parent experiencing this. 898 00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,640 Speaker 2: Kids have problems. They just got here. 899 00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,279 Speaker 3: You know, they're developing, and we you know, as long 900 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:18,120 Speaker 3: as we are understanding that their works in progress and 901 00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,560 Speaker 3: not taking it to level ten, you know, they have 902 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,839 Speaker 3: the whole life ahead of them and experiences and life 903 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:28,000 Speaker 3: to happen, to learn emotional and social you know, education 904 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:28,600 Speaker 3: or I don't know what the. 905 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:33,239 Speaker 4: Smartness, but it's good. 906 00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,879 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I'm saying it's it's it's it's true 907 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:39,200 Speaker 5: because also think about today, like we are living in 908 00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:42,520 Speaker 5: this world where we put filters on everything, and everybody's 909 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:46,120 Speaker 5: life is so glamorous and everybody's children is so successful 910 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:52,080 Speaker 5: and smiling and and and and even though we kind 911 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,400 Speaker 5: of know that it's not really that like it's so 912 00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:58,880 Speaker 5: it's not as green as people try to make it. So, uh, 913 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:02,000 Speaker 5: it has an effect on us and uh, and and 914 00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:06,040 Speaker 5: it doesn't mean that we're bad parents or that we're 915 00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,360 Speaker 5: you know, that that our kids are lacking. 916 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,280 Speaker 4: You know, sometimes these things can create too much anxiety. 917 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,799 Speaker 5: And we also see that with parents where the child 918 00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,279 Speaker 5: you know, is not not struggling so bad, they just 919 00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:22,960 Speaker 5: think because whatever they're in this type of environment that uh, 920 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,040 Speaker 5: they're around parents that are like throwing every resource they 921 00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,239 Speaker 5: can't they have on the child, they might think the 922 00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,960 Speaker 5: child is acting behind us. It's not necessarily the case. 923 00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,760 Speaker 5: So you also have that, which I think is also 924 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:36,640 Speaker 5: worth noting. 925 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:41,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. For sure, Well where can our listeners 926 00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,440 Speaker 1: find you find giant leap, You give us all the 927 00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:48,400 Speaker 1: infos and they know how to find you and evaluate 928 00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:48,919 Speaker 1: their kids. 929 00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:50,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, most important. 930 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,120 Speaker 5: Sure, so they can go on our website Giantly, dot 931 00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,000 Speaker 5: tech that's tech t E c H. 932 00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:01,200 Speaker 4: And they can register, uh and and do the evaluation 933 00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:02,439 Speaker 4: and get the action plan. 934 00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:08,000 Speaker 5: And they can also find us on Facebook, Giantly, Instagram 935 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:12,160 Speaker 5: or LinkedIn. They can also friend me or Hoffmang on 936 00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:17,520 Speaker 5: LinkedIn and uh, yeah, every social network, We're probably there 937 00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:19,880 Speaker 5: almost I think every every social network. 938 00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:23,560 Speaker 3: Cool single mom slide into his LinkedIn He's actually really cute. 939 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:27,439 Speaker 1: I guess get married, are right? Hold on, I'm just. 940 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:33,359 Speaker 2: You might be married, all right? Are you married? Are 941 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:33,760 Speaker 2: you married? 942 00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,240 Speaker 4: My girlfriend? My girlfriend is gonna get. 943 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,080 Speaker 2: Sorry, girlfriend, it means nothing to a ring on it. 944 00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,480 Speaker 1: And I'm just kidding us. 945 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:44,160 Speaker 2: We're totally kidding. 946 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,160 Speaker 3: And I'm the mom, I'm the single mom at school 947 00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:49,879 Speaker 3: to stay away from. 948 00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,320 Speaker 1: And you guys, we're gonna link all of this information 949 00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:57,759 Speaker 1: and the details of the bio of the podcast. And yeah, 950 00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:01,720 Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming on, and and please 951 00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:05,880 Speaker 1: stay safe in Tel Aviv for us. 952 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:07,719 Speaker 3: And you got to answer the phone when we get there. 953 00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:08,759 Speaker 3: Don't act like you don't know us. 954 00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll be there soon. The government wanted to pay 955 00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,920 Speaker 1: for a hotel, We've already got it planned them. 956 00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:15,960 Speaker 3: Sure, the tickets are cheap right now because of COVID. 957 00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:19,160 Speaker 3: Don't tell your girlfriend we're coming. 958 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,839 Speaker 1: Okay. I don't know this person, I don't know her. 959 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:26,160 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm kidding. I'm just joking. 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