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Speaker 1: Patriots Minicamp, this is Patriots Unfiltered, Well do It Live,

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Speaker 1: Do It Live, fueled by Duncan. All right, welcome to

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Speaker 1: Patriots Unfiltered, a special edition. As you just heard our

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Speaker 1: producer Matt Morrell say, we are live from Mini Camp

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Speaker 1: here at Jillette Stadium, high above Mini Camp, and as

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Speaker 1: we speak, Patriots are filtering onto the field getting ready

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Speaker 1: for the first part of their practice. I'm here Fred

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Speaker 1: Kursh with Paul Parolo, Mike Dussa, and Tamara Brown who

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Speaker 1: just joined us, and we'll be here until the end

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Speaker 1: of practice. Now, just so you know the rules, we'll

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Speaker 1: have live video on the field for certain portions of

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Speaker 1: the practice, but at twelve to twenty we're just gonna

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Speaker 1: go to audio because per rules, no cameras allowed after

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Speaker 1: twelve twenty. So up until that point you will be

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Speaker 1: field and you'll hear our commentary throughout, but we will

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Speaker 1: be with you until the end of practice. After twelve

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Speaker 1: twenty audio only, but still giving you what we see.

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Speaker 1: So guys, you know, Mike, Paul Tomorrow, what are you

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Speaker 1: looking for today? I'd like to see a little bit

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Speaker 1: of competitive period. We saw some OTA's last couple of weeks,

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Speaker 1: I'm looking, you know, and this sounds kind of silly,

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Speaker 1: you said, Fred, players still filtering onto the field. So,

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Speaker 1: you know, just for uh, you know, people's education. This

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Speaker 1: from a layman perspective, which is what we are. You're

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Speaker 1: What are you looking for today? I was kind of

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Speaker 1: Kevin Harris, and then you know overliable James White and

425
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Speaker 1: Damian Harris right there in the middle of it. It's

426
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Speaker 1: it's an interesting group and I mean one that obviously

427
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Speaker 1: in the summer you get a tonnel look at running

428
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Speaker 1: backs in the preseason. I mean, they're gonna get plenty

429
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Speaker 1: of chances in those games to carry the ball. I

430
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Speaker 1: would assume we don't see, you know, much of Damien Harris,

431
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Speaker 1: James White, maybe even Stevenson. So yeah, then we'll get

432
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Speaker 1: a sense of those getta running backs. Um. They had

433
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Speaker 1: broken the offense up in the two groups whilere leading

434
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Speaker 1: one mac leading the other and working on some run game. Um,

435
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Speaker 1: you know, stuff stuff to the outside and that type

436
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Speaker 1: of thing. And then you've got the defense, uh pretty

437
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Speaker 1: much more doing bag drills and not so much uh,

438
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Speaker 1: you know, working against each other. You know, there's there's

439
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Speaker 1: only so much defense can do without pads. But offense

440
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Speaker 1: is working more on on plays right now, or at

441
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Speaker 1: least running schemes, blocking schemes, that type of thing. Get

442
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Speaker 1: somebody in motion. I'm not gonna make your point, yeah,

443
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Speaker 1: fred um, sure, she just broke the huddle with Mac

444
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Speaker 1: okay in company, so so all right, yeah, definitely, it

445
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,200
Speaker 1: definitely seems like Patricia's with the with the MAC group,

446
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Speaker 1: Joe Judge is with the hoyer. Yes, listen, it's an

447
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Speaker 1: observation right now. Tomorrow it could be the other way,

448
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Speaker 1: you know, it could be the other way. But is

449
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Speaker 1: that good? Like if you're Mac Jones, do you want

450
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Speaker 1: like one day Matt Patricia, the next day Joe Judge

451
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Speaker 1: or does it matter? Like I would say, if wouldn't

452
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Speaker 1: it be better to have the same person every day?

453
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Speaker 1: I would think so, I would think so. But I

454
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Speaker 1: mean I also think that if the information is the

455
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Speaker 1: same and it's being distributed in a similar fashion, you know,

456
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Speaker 1: I just think I mean, I do think mac is

457
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Speaker 1: is the most important part of this, and ultimately, no

458
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Speaker 1: matter who's calling the plays or whatever, it's gonna come

459
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Speaker 1: down to him and the offense executing what they're doing.

460
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Speaker 1: They've always had a small staff. I think this is

461
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Speaker 1: just going to be the ultimate test of you know,

462
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Speaker 1: can can that work? I mean, I think everybody's so

463
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Speaker 1: attached to the head coach, offensive coordinators and position coaches

464
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Speaker 1: and that kind of dynamic that but they don't have

465
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Speaker 1: any fewer coaches than they normally do. They just don't

466
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Speaker 1: have a title, right like they've always had guys in

467
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Speaker 1: my roles, So we just don't know what who's calling

468
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Speaker 1: the place. And so that's what my point is though,

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Speaker 1: is that, you know, does does the message stay the

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Speaker 1: same when it's when it's a small coaches stap? They

471
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Speaker 1: used to have a small staff, they kind of have

472
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Speaker 1: the same size now is it? Can they still do

473
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Speaker 1: it even though they don't have an official I have

474
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Speaker 1: no idea if if if the message is the same.

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Speaker 1: It certainly seems from talking to players the message hasn't

476
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Speaker 1: been the same on defense well, and that's what I

477
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Speaker 1: worry about. But let's stick to offense. For a second,

478
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Speaker 1: regardless of whether the message is the same, I can't

479
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Speaker 1: imagine that delivery is the same if it's two different people.

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Speaker 1: You know, Joe Judge is going to deliver the message

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Speaker 1: differently than Matt Patrician, and I think that makes a

482
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Speaker 1: difference too. You know, I agree with you, Freddie, I like, listen,

483
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Speaker 1: it's not the end of the world. I know we've

484
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Speaker 1: made more out of it than probably needs to be,

485
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Speaker 1: and I know Mike gets really tired the fact that

486
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Speaker 1: we make more out of it than we need to be.

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Speaker 1: But I agree with Mike on that. But it's an issue.

488
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's there's a reason no one's ever done

489
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Speaker 1: it like that before, because it's not the best way

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Speaker 1: to do it right. It's adding complexity where you don't

491
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Speaker 1: need to, you know, right, you want to keep things

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Speaker 1: simple wherever you can. So, fred are you saying, for example,

493
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Speaker 1: teachers may teach calculus differently. Yea, yeah, absolutely. And that's

494
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Speaker 1: a great example to Marra because how many times have

495
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Speaker 1: you had a teacher and you said, this one was

496
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Speaker 1: able to get the same information you know, across to

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Speaker 1: me and this one couldn't. Yeah, yeah, I mean they

498
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Speaker 1: obviously both know the subject matter. Yep. But there's different styles,

499
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Speaker 1: there's different ways to deliver the message, and you know it.

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Speaker 1: I just think that it's good to be consistent, you know.

501
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Speaker 1: So general question though, how are we going to know

502
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Speaker 1: why not if it doesn't work, whether it's Mac's fault,

503
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Speaker 1: it's the coach's fault. And this is why I made

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Speaker 1: that comment, or vice versa. I made the comment a

505
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Speaker 1: few weeks ago that you know, in a warped way,

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Speaker 1: this kind of benefits Mac because he's not gonna if

507
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Speaker 1: he could if he has a bad if he has

508
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Speaker 1: takes a step back from what people thought, no one's

509
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Speaker 1: gonna put it on him. It's all going to be

510
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Speaker 1: put on the way that the coaches were set up,

511
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Speaker 1: right well, especially we're not gonna knows, We're not gonna

512
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Speaker 1: how do you gonna know if it? Well, chiefs, they

513
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 1: had everything in place, everything was there. He just didn't

514
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Speaker 1: make the right read and made a bad throw. Often

515
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Speaker 1: do we hear about young quarterbacks, Oh we had three

516
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Speaker 1: coordinators and three years, yeah, three head coaches or to

517
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Speaker 1: this or to that, and they always shift the blame

518
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Speaker 1: to the instability of the coaching staff. Right well, Fred,

519
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Speaker 1: I think he also had a few coordinators at Alabama.

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Speaker 1: But do you think that it was Saban primarily leading

521
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Speaker 1: the charge there? I think, yeah, I think he's the

522
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Speaker 1: constant fourth there. But he also only played one year.

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Speaker 1: He only played one year, and he had really I

524
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Speaker 1: mean talk about the best players. Yeah, you know, it's

525
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Speaker 1: like if you're if you're a competent quarterback, it's hard

526
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Speaker 1: not to do well at Alabama, you know. Um, So

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Speaker 1: it's I don't know if it's an apples to apples comparison,

528
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Speaker 1: but it can't be good for a young guy trying

529
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Speaker 1: to learn to have to be hearing different voices and

530
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Speaker 1: and I'm not saying that right now, there's it's a problem.

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Speaker 1: It's just an observation. And for all we know, it's

532
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Speaker 1: going to be Joe, uh, Matt Patricia throughout, you know,

533
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Speaker 1: like like like we said, we don't know, but they

534
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Speaker 1: probably do. Uh and that's all that counts. So what

535
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Speaker 1: are we looking at now? We're looking at we got

536
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Speaker 1: some punt team going on and a little bit of

537
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Speaker 1: position drill on the screen. We're looking at some defensive

538
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Speaker 1: high point drill, you know, locating the ball at its

539
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Speaker 1: highest point and going up and making the interception or

540
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Speaker 1: you know whatever. So we're looking at that on the screen.

541
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Speaker 1: Now we're looking at Matt Jones doing some quick drops

542
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Speaker 1: passes out to the flank. Yeah, Billy's appy. That's that's

543
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Speaker 1: a little bit of a I mean, I assume he'll

544
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Speaker 1: you know, be the third quarterback this year, but I

545
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 1: think that's a little side story that'll be interesting to watch.

546
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Speaker 1: As I said earlier, just in comparison to have him

547
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Speaker 1: watched a rookie quarterback kind of go through it last year,

548
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Speaker 1: give a little bit more of a sense of, you know,

549
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Speaker 1: how hard it is to pick up things. And Zappy

550
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: just threw a ball. Okay, so knee jerk um looked

551
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Speaker 1: like it had a pretty good zip coming out of

552
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Speaker 1: his arm. I think he has a decent arm. Yeah,

553
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Speaker 1: he's a little small. He's small. I think he's stocky.

554
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Speaker 1: You know, it seems like he's got some power. Fred

555
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Speaker 1: I couldn't tell if you were trying to be like

556
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Speaker 1: Eric and be a little bit puney there with that

557
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Speaker 1: one zip for Zappy. Yes, a little a little alliteration.

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Speaker 1: They're happy, was Zappy? Hey, dud, stop, don't intrude on

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Speaker 1: my headlines. At this point of the season. We're just

560
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Speaker 1: looking for anything. But like you know, he does look

561
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Speaker 1: like the ball comes out of his arm hand pretty quickly.

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Speaker 1: Damn Billy Yates very much running the uh the offensive

563
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Speaker 1: line right now? Socus Patricia has to run the offense.

564
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Speaker 1: Go two people talking at once. What are we gonna do?

565
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Speaker 1: Who do I listen to? Well, I'm gonna just keep

566
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Speaker 1: saying it. That's what the different defensive players claimed. Who

567
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Speaker 1: do I listen to? That was a problem last year.

568
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Speaker 1: That we're gonna try it on the offensive side now right,

569
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Speaker 1: it works so well, we're gonna try it again. See

570
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Speaker 1: if we can make someone punting and then see if

571
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Speaker 1: we can do something other than punt. Can we can

572
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 1: we just bury that Buffalo game. I feel like we

573
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Speaker 1: need which Warrior football game? Which one? Oh any of them? Because,

574
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Speaker 1: as Fred likes to point out, there was two games

575
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Speaker 1: that they didn't for. I'll even bury the stupid one

576
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Speaker 1: in the weather too. I don't care receivers doing some drills,

577
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Speaker 1: some bag drills, and so I do think too. You

578
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Speaker 1: know one point, I mean we don't. I don't know

579
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Speaker 1: who number two is. Um this, yeah, that it looks

580
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Speaker 1: like there's a kick on the field. That's not Quinn

581
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: Nordine nor Nick Fulcan Nordine are not here. So we've

582
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Speaker 1: seen they got somebody in here just to be able

583
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Speaker 1: to kick during the camp. And there were reports that

584
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Speaker 1: three kickers were in for looks yesterday, tryouts yesterday, and

585
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Speaker 1: one of them was a guy who some NFL experience,

586
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Speaker 1: This Guyano, Right yeah, he was with the Chargers for

587
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Speaker 1: a little bit. I think he if I'm not mistaken,

588
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Speaker 1: he might have kicked against the Patriots a couple of

589
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: years ago and missed a couple Was he the one

590
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Speaker 1: that had the one blocks that McCardy returned? Might be

591
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: a different year, but he has some NFL experience. He

592
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Speaker 1: was one of the three kickers that was reportedly in

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Speaker 1: Foxboro yesterday for tryouts. I don't know if that's the

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Speaker 1: one that's on the field now. As we see a

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00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: group go up to the other fields by the conditioning

596
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 1: hills on the side, looked like a group of younger

597
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: players and some specialists. Right yeah, yeah, that's the specialist.

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Speaker 1: You can call her email the show if you want

599
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Speaker 1: to ask a question, get involved. Eight five five past

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Speaker 1: five hundred is the ACE ticket hut line, or you

601
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Speaker 1: can email us at web radio at Patriots dot Com. Yeah,

602
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Speaker 1: where are you at? Where's the uh where's the comments? Uh?

603
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Speaker 1: Well they're here, they're here. All right, let's go Jonathan

604
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: or actually this is Rusty in Arland. He says, I

605
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Speaker 1: feel like the defense is flying under the radar as

606
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Speaker 1: a story so far this offseason, considering how last year

607
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Speaker 1: ended this time last year, corner was probably the strongest position,

608
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Speaker 1: and now it's one of the biggest question marks. Who

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Speaker 1: do you project as the starters and how do you

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Speaker 1: feel about them? Ah? Well, I think you're right. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think that's the point we've we've brought up,

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Speaker 1: we brought up on regular pu of you know, Fred

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Speaker 1: and I think are probably a little bit more into

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Speaker 1: the defense right now than than you know, the whole

615
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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator part of it. But I don't know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think Butler and Mitchell are definitely going to be

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Speaker 1: in the mix up at the top. Um. You got

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Speaker 1: can't ignore Jalen Mills after you know, coming in last

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Speaker 1: year and play most of the season. Talk about an

620
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Speaker 1: unfortunate in there in the Buffalo game, he wasn't able

621
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Speaker 1: to go. But I think I think Mitchell and Butler

622
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Speaker 1: are very much going to be in the mix at

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Speaker 1: least to start, and you know, we'll see how things

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Speaker 1: play out. We did see Jack Jones get a little

625
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: bit of a little bit of action there during OTAs,

626
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Speaker 1: but again, what is it, what does it mean exactly

627
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Speaker 1: right now? You know, guys just aren't here yet. Guys

628
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: aren't one hundred percent. So you know, we'll see how

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Speaker 1: that all plays out. Those veterans. But I don't I

630
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Speaker 1: think there's a ton of questions on defense. I think

631
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Speaker 1: there's questions about the linebacker position. I think there's questions

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Speaker 1: about the cornerback position. I think there's questions on one

633
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Speaker 1: of the edges sides of you know, opposite Matthew Judeon.

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Speaker 1: So I'm with you. I think after the safety group,

635
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Speaker 1: I think there there are a ton of questions on defense.

636
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Speaker 1: Don't you feel like in cornerback, like the two that

637
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: they drafted this year kind of have to contribute a

638
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,239
Speaker 1: certain to a certain point because I think we're not

639
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: sure about Malcolm Butler. Right, Yeah, Well, I mean, you know,

640
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: it just goes back to draft night, where you know,

641
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: they've got Jonathan Jones, they've got Miles Brian, a couple

642
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: versatile inside corner type guys, and both both of the

643
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: Joneses that they drafted are inside cornerback types. Even you know, Jack,

644
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: I think we're maybe projecting out a little bit more

645
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: just in the pros. He did play outside corner, you know,

646
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 1: at Arizona State and at USC. So for me, Marcus

647
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: Jones coming in as a returner, I think that that

648
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: that has to happen. He has to come in and

649
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: be the instant punt returner and you know, hopefully he

650
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 1: can build on you know what Gunarol Chefs he did

651
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: the last couple of seasons. But I think Jack Jones

652
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: a little bit of wild card at that at that

653
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Speaker 1: corner position, and maybe seeing him beat out one of

654
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: those veterans, maybe that could be, uh something that's on

655
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: the table. We'll see. Like Paul pointed out with Malcolm

656
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: Butler when he first got here, Jack Jones is that

657
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: kind of player, hands on a lot of balls, very scrappy,

658
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: very competitive, doesn't have the best size, but you know,

659
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: if he's out here getting his hands on balls and

660
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: making interceptions, breaking up passes, I think that'll be a

661
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: big takeaway. Yeah, he's a guy I'm looking at because

662
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: he did kind of flash a little bit with his

663
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: athleticism in one of the OTAs that we got a

664
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: chance to watch. And if Mike is right, if if

665
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,719
Speaker 1: we get a chance to see some of that competitive

666
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: portion and he's getting a chance to be as a

667
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: part of the defensive backfield and getting a chance to

668
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: make some plays, I think he could emerge. I would

669
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Speaker 1: agree with Mike's assessment strongly of the cornerback position and

670
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Speaker 1: what you expect if those If either of those two

671
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: rookies contributes significantly on defense, I'd be a little surprised.

672
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: But if one of the two I would I would

673
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: go with Jack Jones. Marcus I think is more of

674
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: a returner right now. Jack Jones I think might be

675
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: able to play inside or out, And if he can,

676
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: I think that would give them a layer of insurance,

677
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: you know, on the outside, because it's Terrence Mitchell and

678
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler, Like I don't think you want Jalen Mills outside.

679
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: I think he's better as sort of a versatile kind

680
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: of a piece that you can move. So I'm not

681
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: exactly sure how that's gonna unfold well at all those

682
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: reasons and why for me, I'm more you know, worried

683
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: about defense going into this year than I am offense,

684
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 1: And that includes the front seven. When you get to

685
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: the outside in the line backers, who's going to emerge?

686
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: Who are these young players are you know, going to

687
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,240
Speaker 1: end up being the nucleus of the team going forward

688
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: if they are, if any at all? You know, So

689
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: there's a lot of questions on defense going into this

690
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 1: season that remained to be answered. Yeah, I would just say,

691
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 1: you know, keep an eye on names like Mac Wilson,

692
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: Ray Kwon McMillan, the two cornerbacks I mentioned, those veterans.

693
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 1: I mean, those guys are definitely in the mix. But

694
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: then it's it comes down to Ronnie Perkins, Josh Uch,

695
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: Anthony Jennings. You know, these guys over the last few

696
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: years that have been a little bit buried on the

697
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 1: depth chart based on the veterans. Caml Grown another great example. Uh.

698
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 1: You know, I just think for this team to really

699
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 1: be playoff contenders and make a push, you know, for nine,

700
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,280
Speaker 1: ten eleven wins in that area, some of these guys

701
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: have to absolutely emerge and not just like come in

702
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 1: and be salt like. They have to be plus playmakers.

703
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 1: You need at least one or two guys. All right,

704
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: so we're gonna have to say goodbye to the video

705
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: portion of this show. Um as rules at twelve twenty,

706
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: we've got to turn them and uh, we're gonna be

707
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: turning them off completely and we're just gonna be going

708
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 1: to audio for the rest of the show because I

709
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: don't really think there's a reason to be watching us

710
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 1: until the end of practice. I would agree, but we

711
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 1: also have the right Jus is a good looking guy,

712
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: wonderful picture. Samario's glasses will making a strong foot. You

713
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 1: can have lunch on those glasses. We get lunch today,

714
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 1: all right. So we're audio only now, so we're gonna

715
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: have to be a little bit more descriptive of what's

716
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: going on and right now that Mac is working with

717
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: the receivers, and uh, if we can get any indication

718
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: of fifty one speed, let's yell at out. That was

719
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: my actual next question, Fred, I know that's everyone's question,

720
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,399
Speaker 1: like how fast does he look out there? I think

721
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: that we might be able to see a little bit

722
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: more of that than what we saws. Right we're talking

723
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,800
Speaker 1: about Thornton. Of course, right now they're looking at you know,

724
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: short passes coming out of the backfield and that type

725
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,280
Speaker 1: of thing. But you know, if they ever stretch the field,

726
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see how Thornton is. And of

727
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 1: course the rookies aren't wearing the numbers they're gonna wear

728
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 1: once the season starts. They wear the fifties in the

729
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,760
Speaker 1: order that they were drafted. So for example, cold Strange

730
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 1: is wearing number fifty and Thornton, who was the second pick,

731
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,919
Speaker 1: is wearing number fifty one, and then it goes down

732
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: the line. It's brilliant. Don't touch fifty six or fifty

733
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 1: seven though. Yeah, I don't know how they won all

734
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: those Super Bowls before they started doing that stuff. Paul,

735
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: not into, not into that, No, you know what I'm

736
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: not into. I have to be honest with you. I

737
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: really have no problem with it overall. I'm not into

738
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 1: the narrative that it's significant in any way, like you

739
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 1: have to earn your number like that kind of I'm

740
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 1: not into like that kind of nonsense, the symbolism of it,

741
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 1: which some people are, well, what about just earning your

742
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 1: spot on the roster. That's what I'm saying. I'm not into.

743
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,879
Speaker 1: I mean, everybody has to come out here and spot

744
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 1: on the roster. I don't care if you have a

745
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: normal number or not no one. I mean, there are

746
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: very few guys out there guaranteed a job. Well along

747
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: that line. Along that line, how do you feel about

748
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 1: no logos on the helmets yet? See, I assume that

749
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: was more of a it's like a maintenance thing. It

750
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: kind of reminds me of Notre Dame. There's no names

751
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: on the back of jerseys until you make it to

752
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: a bowl game. The postseason is when you get your

753
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: name on the back of it, right they wait that long? Yeah?

754
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: Like if like they just don't have so let me

755
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 1: ask you a question. Then you know you worked at

756
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: Notre Dame. Huh why put it on even for the playoffs?

757
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 1: Why not just not have names all the time? I

758
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: guess it's in the same sense of Bill Belichick here,

759
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: you've earned it. Yeah. I wonder also if it might

760
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: be a rule, you know, might be an NCAA rule,

761
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: but in the playoffs, doesn't Notre Dame is the only

762
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: person that doesn't have their last name on the back

763
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: of their jerseys. But until no, that's what I'm saying.

764
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: Maybe in the playoffs every team has to have the name.

765
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,080
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, when was the last time her

766
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 1: name on a playoff game? Yeah? Um, I joke, I could.

767
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: I usually like that stuff with like the helmet stickers

768
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: and you know the offseason. Oh I like the stickers

769
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 1: in terms of when you make play, like you like

770
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: the Buckeye lead, even though I hate Ohio State, but

771
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: that's one of the more famous one. I kind of

772
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: like those the bones Georgia has. Did the BU baseball

773
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 1: team do it like the BU hockey team? No, but

774
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 1: we we did it in football like that. Yeah, if

775
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: you if you made plays, you got different stickers for

776
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 1: different things. We all know it's not the name of

777
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 1: the jersey. It's the name on the front of the

778
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: jersey that matters. Is that guy usually? Like? Can you

779
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: say that? That's brilliant? I never even I never thought

780
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: of that. Paul Iron sharpers Iron, that's a really that's

781
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 1: a you should think about, like coming up with those

782
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: kinds of slogans. I think you have a future. I

783
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: think I could have a book about it's not about

784
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 1: the name in the front of the jersey. How many times?

785
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: How many times have you seen a coach at his

786
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,879
Speaker 1: introductory press conference say something like that and immediately think

787
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 1: to yourself, that guy has doomed right right, that guy

788
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 1: will be out within two years. If we're falling, you know,

789
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: back to cliches on day one, then we're in trouble.

790
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: We're gonna be a tough football team, you know, in

791
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: the mold of our city, and we're gonna take on

792
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: the characteristics of this tough blue call a tone. And

793
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 1: I meanly think to myself, that guy's gone into you.

794
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: We're gonna be a tough team. Sounds like Dan Campbell,

795
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: That sounds like Joe Judge. That's exactly what he said

796
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 1: in New York. Yeah, let's see emails. Um, this is

797
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,399
Speaker 1: v from Pittsburgh. Just looking down at the field, does

798
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: anyone stand out as being different? Including Vets. Have you

799
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 1: had a chance to look up a grown in action

800
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: different now? I mean you were talking about Sam Roberts early. Yeah,

801
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:49,280
Speaker 1: Well he's big, Yeah, Harris's standing out. I mean Taykawon

802
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: Thornton just you know, he stands out just because he's

803
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: tall and skinny. He's running down the field right now,

804
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: but they're at like thirty percent speed right now. Yeah.

805
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: But in Parker too, I mean I think Parker, uh,

806
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: I think Parker looks fluid. Yeah, he looks like a

807
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: he looks like an NFL wide receiver. Like I kind

808
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: of expected him to kind of look like, you know,

809
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 1: some wear and terror on him, you know, but he

810
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 1: looks fresh and fluid. Limping around out there, Yeah, I mean,

811
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: I don't know about limping, but you know what I mean.

812
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 1: You like you look at him and say, guy's been

813
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 1: through some NFL wars, remember like alge Crumpler Fred Yeah, yeah,

814
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: you know it looked like he was gonna fall apart

815
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 1: like at any any moment. Yeah, But Parker, he doesn't

816
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: look like that. He looks he looks very fresh. Well

817
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,320
Speaker 1: it is uh, Trent Brown. I hadn't seen him earlier,

818
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 1: but he's out. Trent Brown his back out all right?

819
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: Uh jacket an aaba. We know who the starting offensive

820
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 1: lineman are expected to be. Who is lining up with

821
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: the second string offensive line? I can give you some

822
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 1: of those right now if you want some of the

823
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 1: One of the groups that I saw working had justin

824
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: harn Uh. Let's see Juw Deja James parents and Will

825
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 1: Sherman and y'a Sa Durant. Yeah, that's from left to

826
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: right on your radio dial. Do we know totally though,

827
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: who the starting offensive line's going to be. I think

828
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: I know the five guys, I don't know exactly where

829
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,720
Speaker 1: they're all going to be. I would I would assume

830
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: it's going to be some combination of Brown Win, Uh,

831
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 1: Cole Strange, David Andrews, and Michael when you Yeah. Now,

832
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: I think there's definitely um open to debate as to

833
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: which Brown a Win plays what what side based on

834
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: what we've seen so far in the spring, and it

835
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 1: looks like Strange is more on the left and a

836
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 1: when You's on the right. And that's um in line

837
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 1: with where they both played in college. Right, Mike, ye,

838
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 1: when you played mostly right guard at Michigan. Correct. I

839
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: leave the offensive line details to you, and then, uh,

840
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 1: you know, justin hern are kind of the next next

841
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 1: guy's up at tackle? Yeah, and uh and Will Sherman

842
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 1: probably probably the next guy up on the inside. I

843
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: would concur Mike's having a strong show. He's saying a

844
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: lot of things. That's all. I just all I care

845
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 1: about my This is what I do. I just stare

846
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: at the depth chart and try to figure out who's what.

847
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 1: So we haven't talked about High Tower today. Yet, UM's

848
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: just gonna talk about the players. Yeah, we talk about

849
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: our players that they here tomorrow. Since he's not here. Well,

850
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: there was a report this weekend that that the team

851
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: would be open to it. I think Jeff Howell reported

852
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: that that's the team would be. They would be sorry

853
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: to it with open arms, I think was the quote. Yeah,

854
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 1: that was from Bill Belichick's price conference last week. But um,

855
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 1: he's not here today, so we think, well, he's not

856
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: on the contract, is he. No? No, no, no, he's

857
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: free age. He's a free agent. Yeah, And uh, I

858
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe he just wants to skip this stuff

859
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 1: and then maybe I'll say, let's, uh, let's play ball

860
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: this summer. Yeah, I don't know. I'm kind of on

861
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: the fence, like I'm one way. I want to just

862
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: tear the band aid off and go with the youth,

863
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 1: but it's time. I don't want to get on the

864
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 1: field and see a team that can't sent the edge,

865
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 1: and I would just at least take him. Yeah, I

866
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 1: mean there's a chance that that could happen. You're right,

867
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 1: I just don't think. I don't think there's much left there,

868
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: and I don't think he has much desire to play.

869
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 1: I'm going off what I saw last year. If we

870
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 1: can't do better than that, then you know, what are

871
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: we doing? Yeah, I mean I think you gotta get

872
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: away and I don't I don't know if they had

873
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,959
Speaker 1: this mindset, but the mindset of that, Oh, the guys

874
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 1: with all the Super Bowl rings are gonna step up

875
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,439
Speaker 1: and make the plays, you know. And again I don't

876
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 1: want to say that that's what it is, but I

877
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 1: think at a certain point you need to realize some

878
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 1: of these young guys that someone else isn't gonna do it.

879
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: Ronnie Perkins, you need to step up. These need to

880
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 1: be the guys who are stepping up and making plays.

881
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: And you know, so from that regard, if you want

882
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 1: to kind of sunset High Tower, I I mean you

883
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: said it sunset them, huh, look at you. You said

884
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: it dud, you know, tearing off the band aid. That's

885
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 1: what I look at that at this as you know,

886
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 1: I think that you just got we just got to

887
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: pull the plug this year and do it and just

888
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 1: get those young guys out there and see see, yeah,

889
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: we've got It's just the only thing I struggle with is,

890
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 1: you know, if you get out there and Ronnie and

891
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: Josh Jay can't set the edge and you're just getting

892
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 1: run over the left and right, and it's like, well,

893
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 1: I do want to prove a point, but I also

894
00:43:58,320 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: would just love to stick an old vet in there

895
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 1: who can just put it but you know, put his

896
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 1: feet in the dirt and said, there's a chance that

897
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: you're that that nightmare scenario one folds and these guys

898
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: are just not ready. I just feel like you'll be

899
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 1: better off in the long run. Yeah, fining, you know,

900
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: they're not ready and you gotta go get one. I

901
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: don't think that Ronnie Perkins and Josh Ucha right now

902
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 1: were as good as Dante High Tower was last year.

903
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 1: I don't. But I think that you'll be better off

904
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: by letting them play and get some experience and figuring

905
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: out what the future with that position is, rather than

906
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,320
Speaker 1: just saying, you know, can we keep Bersion running Marshen

907
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 1: together for one more year and just see if it works?

908
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,879
Speaker 1: You know, can maybe even bring Crechie back too? Yeah,

909
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: let's see if we can bring Crechie. I think that

910
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,399
Speaker 1: I think they fire the coach. I'm sorry to me though,

911
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: that was the mindset last year. That's what I'm saying

912
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 1: and at what costs? Like, yeah, I think that you

913
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 1: were better last year. You probably made the playoffs last

914
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 1: year because you did that, right, Yeah, but is there

915
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 1: a difference? Right? So I'm I was all for it

916
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: last year. That was it. But you also couldn't play

917
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: McMillan because he was hurt. Oh no, that Yeah, McMillan's different.

918
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: I'm talking about I'm talking about the draft pick. Yeah,

919
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:04,839
Speaker 1: Perkins never played, really never played. Anthony Jennings was hurt.

920
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 1: I get to see him. Yeah, um, you know, like

921
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 1: playing high Tower and Van Noy and Jamie Collins. I was.

922
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 1: I was fine with that because I thought maybe they

923
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,399
Speaker 1: got a shot. Maybe you know that. I think Bill

924
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: agreed with you, you know, but but now I of us,

925
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 1: you know, had some foresight. Now I'm convinced it's time

926
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 1: to move on. It's time to move on. You know,

927
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,439
Speaker 1: Let's see what they got. Cole writes in I rode

928
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: in after they signed Parker and said, I was disappointed

929
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: because I thought that the Patriots wouldn't draft a receiver

930
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 1: till the fourth I was wrong, but maybe it would

931
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 1: have been better if I was right, since apparently we

932
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: drafted a fourth round wide receiver in the second round.

933
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 1: A little bit of all. That's a little bit of

934
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 1: a factual statement. Chase Claypool was drafted similarly in twenty

935
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 1: twenty and had sixty catches as a rookie. Elijah Moore

936
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 1: was drafted higher than both and had forty. Do you

937
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:58,919
Speaker 1: think Taekwon will have more or less than thirty five

938
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 1: catches and would be disappointed if he had less? No,

939
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 1: I think he'll have less and I wouldn't be disappointed. Yeah,

940
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: I think he's not. I mean, I don't think he's

941
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: going to ever be a high volume catch guy. I mean,

942
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: I think it's more about can he give you ten

943
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 1: explosive places year. I mean, I'm saying twenty thirty catches,

944
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: but you know, ten explosive down the field impacts. I

945
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 1: mean I think that would be you know, satisfying. And

946
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 1: then maybe next year he takes over Prop Parker or

947
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: at least gives you another option on the albisde Chase

948
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: Claypool and tap like you cannot compare Chase Claypool probably

949
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 1: twice the way he's almost like the size of a

950
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: tight end. Yeah, you know, Notre Dame started talking, Notre Dame. Yes,

951
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 1: I'm just I can't. You can't compare those two. Um,

952
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 1: they're just completely incomparable personally, Like I know Shady and UK.

953
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,800
Speaker 1: It's firing Bruce Cassidy one of the dumbest decisions in

954
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: Austin sporting history. Say what you want about the Patriots GM,

955
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:05,839
Speaker 1: at least he doesn't fire a coach who's taking them

956
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 1: to the playoffs regularly and maximizing the time away. That's funny. Um.

957
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 1: I know Paul are on the same page with this one,

958
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 1: but yeah, you know, look, I think two things. I

959
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: always thought Cassidy, no matter how many injuries they seem

960
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 1: to have, they seem to always kind of be competitive

961
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: and in the thick of it. Now that said, I

962
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: also think they haven't really developed anybody. So I don't

963
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: know if that's his fault or who's players. That's the

964
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: one criticism I would say of Cassidy is I think

965
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 1: he's inpatient with young guys, and I think that I

966
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 1: don't think they've really gotten burned by it, but they've

967
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 1: sort of moved on quickly from some young players. They've

968
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: been able to just lean on Marsh. I mean, that's

969
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: been the team, you know, And then as long as

970
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 1: those guys produced, they've been pretty good. But even still

971
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 1: when they've lost some of those guys during the regular

972
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 1: season for links of time, I feel like they were

973
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: always surprising and how competitive they were able to do.

974
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 1: I think, you know, it's a I just think it's

975
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: close to a ground zero Rico And maybe he, you know,

976
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 1: wasn't the guy they felt was the best suited for that,

977
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: and that's why they made the move. But it didn't

978
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: make a lot of sense to me. But you look

979
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 1: at guys like like Ryan Donado and Danton had and like,

980
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: I know, some of these guys, even Frank Vatrano, you know,

981
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: going back a little bit, some of these guys have

982
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 1: carved out decent careers for themselves. But I don't think

983
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 1: they've really missed like a Nola Chari or any of

984
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 1: these young guys. Sean Corrally like they were always buried

985
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 1: bottom six guys here and it looks like Cassidy was

986
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 1: never really willing to embrace them. But I don't really

987
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:40,919
Speaker 1: think they've missed them either. No, you just you needed

988
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 1: somebody like debrus to develop into the next you know,

989
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 1: marshand into a consistent on his own goal scorer, and

990
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: all right, all away from the Bruins, but that was

991
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 1: our take. It is. I mean, it's topical. I mean,

992
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,240
Speaker 1: it's not not often that a guy that's won sixty

993
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: five percent of his games gets fired. That's true. Let's

994
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 1: catch people up with what's going out on the field. Sure,

995
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:04,439
Speaker 1: a little. Uh, it's just small shell of seven on seven.

996
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 1: It's the offense running some routes with five five man routes,

997
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: but no defense involved. So probably ramping up here in

998
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: a minute, probably I would think, I think we're getting

999
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: ready for a little of that. I agree with you, dudes,

1000
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 1: because the defense is doing the same thing down the

1001
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 1: other end. Um, I think you'll see some of the

1002
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: offense defense work together, which is when you can sort

1003
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 1: of see a little like I'm not going to say competitive,

1004
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 1: but seven on seven, Yeah, you see a little you

1005
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: see a little situation where you get a place you

1006
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 1: can see a little separation separates. Was the ball out

1007
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 1: on time by the quarterback? You know? Was it accurate?

1008
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,399
Speaker 1: Because these plays right now they're just running. Every ball

1009
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 1: is getting completed. There's no defense all right. Um, even

1010
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 1: Nakill Harry's open Russell and Arkansas writes in on the

1011
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: coaching topic Darius Butler said on the Pat McAfee show

1012
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 1: a few weeks back that it's always been like this

1013
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 1: in New England. One coach has a title, but a

1014
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 1: different coach is doing the actual coaching. I guess Dar

1015
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: once got asked in a press conference if he was

1016
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 1: learning a lot from his position coach, and he said, nah,

1017
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,479
Speaker 1: he ain't my coach. I thought it was interesting. Paul

1018
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 1: probably won't also, I know it's no. I think that's

1019
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 1: the way it works. I know, to the contrary, I

1020
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 1: think that's exactly the way it works. I know it's

1021
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 1: also been asked a hundred times, but is it at

1022
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: all possible that Harry switches to tight end, especially since

1023
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: Asiasi and Keene haven't been healthy or played since they

1024
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 1: were drafted. Asiasi was healthy all last year. Yeah, he

1025
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 1: was the third tight end all year. Keene has not

1026
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 1: been healthy at all and he even looked like he

1027
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 1: was banged up in said Mike said he suffered a setback,

1028
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: but he is. I mean he was out there today.

1029
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 1: Um yeah, I means right there, just caught a pass

1030
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 1: um nikkil Harry to tight end. I think is one

1031
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 1: final straw. I saw Mike reas wrote about this over

1032
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 1: the weekend. We've been writing about it in our mail

1033
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: bag seemingly for two years. Mike, would you say, um,

1034
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 1: I think might be one of those situations where the

1035
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:05,800
Speaker 1: Patriots just saying, what can we do anything to possibly

1036
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 1: increase his trade value and make someone interested. Oh, he

1037
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 1: could play tight end too, He's got some versatility to

1038
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 1: his game. Yeah, maybe maybe that helps some team. I

1039
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 1: did see, and now the name is going to escape me.

1040
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:21,760
Speaker 1: I did see a rumor of a backup defensive lineman

1041
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: from Dallas. There was a rumor that Harry for this

1042
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 1: backup defensive lineman for Dallas swap that I saw over

1043
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 1: the weekend on my Twitter feed, and it's a former

1044
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 1: second round pick who, similar to Harry, is not really

1045
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 1: amounted too much with the Cowboys. In three years. I

1046
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 1: think he had like twenty five tackles, so he's been

1047
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 1: a disappointment as a second round pick. Maybe those those

1048
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 1: two guys, change teams, change the scenery, one of those

1049
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: kind of moves. Hey, earlier we had a spotting of

1050
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 1: old friend Ernie Adams on the field, So yes, he

1051
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 1: has retired, but he was out here today, so just

1052
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 1: kind of watching probably, But you know. It's funny because

1053
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:05,919
Speaker 1: when Matt Smith and I talked to him on our

1054
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,399
Speaker 1: Pats from the Past podcast a couple of weeks ago,

1055
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: East was like, nah, yeah, I know, I don't miss

1056
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 1: it at all. Yeah, and here he is out here watching. Yeah.

1057
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 1: We got mister Kraft down there talking to Matt grow

1058
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 1: grow Yeah. And uh. I also got to give a

1059
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 1: shout out to Holy Cross head coach Bob Chesney, who

1060
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 1: was down there taking in practice today. Is it Bob Chesney?

1061
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: Bob Chesney? Is it conventional spelling? You just save me

1062
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 1: a look up on that, correct, as well as his

1063
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: wide receiver coach Drew Canan. They were wonderful to me

1064
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 1: when I went out to their pro day out there

1065
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:37,359
Speaker 1: at my own the Mater, and it's cool to see them,

1066
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 1: and they're always down there. They're always get to us

1067
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 1: in the high school coaching clinic that we have for

1068
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 1: the coaches there, they always speak and give presentations and

1069
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 1: Holy Cross always one of the better groups putting on

1070
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 1: clinics here at the stadium. See. Now, you know, we

1071
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 1: were talking about the logistical problems of having eighty five

1072
00:52:57,840 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 1: guys work out on one field, and you see this

1073
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 1: a little but now the offense is sort of in

1074
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 1: between the hill that separates the training camp fields to

1075
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 1: the lower field, kind of running through some place U,

1076
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 1: you know, against I don't know a show of the

1077
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 1: defense anyway. Is it like a nine on seven kind

1078
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,800
Speaker 1: of a thing, Mike, Yeah, So it seems like, you know,

1079
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 1: while there's special teamwork going on the main field, and

1080
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 1: and Belichick is with that group. By the way, the

1081
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: special teams no with that group on the side of

1082
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 1: the field. So, um, let's see. Eric writes in he

1083
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 1: says it's his birthday, so happy birthday. Hoping you guys

1084
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: will answer a few questions. M No playing the middle

1085
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 1: on these answers, he says, I make no promises. First one,

1086
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 1: I waffle what's more important today's football youth and speed

1087
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: or as Brady says, knowing all the answers, but a

1088
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:59,320
Speaker 1: half step slower depends on the position, right, Yeah, no,

1089
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,240
Speaker 1: waffle on. Yeah, if your quarterback, I'd take the ladder,

1090
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 1: But if anybody else, I'd probably, you know, any other position,

1091
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 1: but quarterback, I would say youth and speed. Like the answers,

1092
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take um A note from Devin mccordy's book, Um,

1093
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: someone actually asked him, Um, he noticed that the Patriots

1094
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 1: were everyonell not the Patriot, the Patriots, but everyone was

1095
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 1: drafting faster on the defense and the importance of that.

1096
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 1: And he's like, well, how much does speed really matter?

1097
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 1: When you don't know the playbook or when you aren't productive,

1098
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 1: you can be super fast. But it's easily for him

1099
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 1: to say he's super fast, and so did you just say, still,

1100
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 1: mccordy is one of the faster guys the Patriots of Oh,

1101
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: I would guarantee he's one of the faster Patriots. So

1102
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say you could take that either way. You

1103
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 1: know me, it's more important to be productive than to

1104
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: be fast, because what if you're super fast but you're

1105
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 1: not productive. But then I don't think that we were

1106
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 1: deciding between productive and fast, were we. I thought it

1107
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:57,879
Speaker 1: was a step slow but having all the answers, Yeah, well,

1108
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 1: I would say slow and having the answers being productive.

1109
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 1: M I can give you a lot of guys that

1110
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:06,360
Speaker 1: are slow and have the answers that arm. How about this,

1111
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,280
Speaker 1: give me some fast guys and we'll give them the answers.

1112
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:14,479
Speaker 1: Coach him up. Second question. Parker and Myers were born

1113
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 1: in Thornton as your top two Parker Myers or Bornton

1114
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 1: Parker Myers. I don't know if it means can I

1115
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 1: go Born and Myers? Yeah? Like I know, can I

1116
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 1: go Born and Myers? Is that considered being in the middle? Probably?

1117
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 1: But yeah I would go. I don't. I don't know

1118
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 1: if he means we think will be or who do

1119
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 1: we want to be? But is not going to be? Yeah?

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00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 1: If I if I had a pick too that I

1121
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:41,760
Speaker 1: think it's going to be. I think it'd be Parker

1122
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 1: and Myers. Yeah, I agree, Freddy three would the would

1123
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: the team be better if the same team is today,

1124
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 1: but swap Lamar Jackson for Mac or adding Debo and

1125
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 1: Marlon Humphrey and giving up Butler and Myers. No, but

1126
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 1: in Marlin Humphrey and you give up Butler and Myers.

1127
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 1: Oh I would do that. Yeah, yeah, I would do

1128
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 1: the second absolutely, second one, Deebo Samuel, But you're you're

1129
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 1: taking you're taking away like middling players for stars, right, Like, yes,

1130
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 1: I'll do that. And then like and I mean the

1131
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 1: Lamar experience would be feaster famine. I feel yeah, I

1132
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 1: mean Lamar would be fine, but like you'd still have

1133
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 1: your team Yeah, like you you're taking Marlon Humphrey would

1134
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 1: be a number one corner and Deebo Samuel will be

1135
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 1: a number one weapon on offense. Yeah, I'll take that. Yeah,

1136
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,399
Speaker 1: I would answer a lot of the questions that we have. Yeah,

1137
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 1: I don't think we were on the defense too much. Right,

1138
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 1: all right, here they come. It's like we're about to

1139
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:42,879
Speaker 1: get after it. All right, so uh morn blows, right,

1140
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 1: Can I say that relatively mini camp get after it,

1141
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:47,839
Speaker 1: not training camp get out? Looks like we might see

1142
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 1: a little seven on seven. I see blues and whites

1143
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,839
Speaker 1: going to the same part of the field, so that's

1144
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 1: usually a sign we're gonna see some Yeah, and the

1145
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 1: offensive line. You know, it's interesting. We don't ever get

1146
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,799
Speaker 1: to see like the Dante's Inferno work of the offensive line,

1147
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 1: but they do it right right in front of us

1148
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 1: on this one. So you can tell how excited I

1149
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,320
Speaker 1: am to be able to watch the offensive line. Plus, okay,

1150
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 1: they seem excited about you know, a new picture for

1151
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 1: everyone that's listening. We now see Joe Judge with Mac

1152
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 1: not Matt Patricia, passing game coordinator, running game. Yeah, track

1153
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 1: them right, all right, get your stats ready? Yeah, I

1154
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:27,439
Speaker 1: will not be. But we do have a little seven

1155
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 1: on seven shaping up, which is nice. Yeah. Me got

1156
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 1: some music that will probably be scrubbed later from this program. Yes,

1157
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 1: you you won't hear it when you hear the podcast.

1158
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 1: Don't mention what it is, all right? Mac with his

1159
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 1: first play, dump off to Montgomery Tiline pass with gravy brain. Yes,

1160
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 1: seven on seven. Ye, And it's just like we were

1161
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 1: here last year. A lot of little swing pass in

1162
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 1: the backfield to our running back. Well, listen, if you

1163
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 1: know where is Patricia right now? He's with the offensive lineman. Okay, Yeah,

1164
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 1: So Bill Belichick is behind the defense deep deep deep

1165
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 1: behind Devin mccordy. Now that's typically where you see Bill Belichick.

1166
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 1: So it's interesting. So if you know, I know he

1167
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 1: doesn't have the title, but if Joe Judge is the

1168
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 1: passing game coordinator, it would make sense for him to

1169
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 1: be where he is right now, you know. And and

1170
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 1: I do think there's some truth to that. Yeah, Like

1171
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 1: that's like media speculation that I actually think might have

1172
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:42,919
Speaker 1: some merit, right, you know. And then Patricia, since there's

1173
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 1: no lineman involved here, this is Patricia's he's with the line. Yeah,

1174
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 1: he's with the lineman getting his time in with them.

1175
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 1: Hi himbilliates. So this doesn't mean like, oh Joe Judge

1176
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 1: is gonna call the place. It just means that in

1177
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 1: this particular drill people tray Tray Nixon nice frock down Wow,

1178
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 1: very nice cat. Ye put it over the outside shoulder nicely. Yeah.

1179
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 1: And that was what like about a forty five yard pass.

1180
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 1: So yeah, and I think he might have beat j

1181
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 1: Jones on that one. A little bit of wind going

1182
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 1: from right to left. Maybe we'll see one like that

1183
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 1: with Thornton later. Yeah. Yeah, that's uh, well, that's what

1184
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 1: we want now on the field. Yeah, he's lining up

1185
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 1: kind of in the little outside. Who we talking about?

1186
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 1: Oh he just stopped? Come on, what is this? No hitches?

1187
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 1: He's got to learn those. That's the only routes today runs.

1188
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 1: It's it's good to see, you know what. You know,

1189
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 1: if you look at the scouting report, one of the

1190
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 1: things that is a knock on him is he's not

1191
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 1: really quick in small spaces, but getting to a space

1192
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 1: could be an advantage there. And we saw that. We

1193
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 1: saw him get to a space, stop and then be

1194
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 1: available for the past. You know, that's exactly what that

1195
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 1: play was, so maybe he can be have a role

1196
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 1: inside on those type of patterns. Yeah, I got some

1197
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 1: love from Mac who ran up to him and pumped

1198
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 1: him up. Yeah. I just you know, I know, I know,

1199
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 1: we talk all about the quality of the weaponry, and

1200
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 1: you know, is there a Deebo Samuel and the team know? Um,

1201
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 1: but there's a lot of really solid guys. I just

1202
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 1: don't know how it's all gonna play out between the

1203
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 1: receiver group, the running back group, and even the tight

1204
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 1: end group. You know, what, what five guys you put

1205
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 1: on the fields. I like the look of our deficit,

1206
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 1: I really do. I do. I mean, I just I

1207
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 1: wonder how it's gonna come together and if you can

1208
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 1: settle on a group of guys that you really like,

1209
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 1: or if it's gonna be a lot of feeling out

1210
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 1: and you know, guys running in, running out, or are

1211
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 1: they gonna have kind of a core group that they

1212
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 1: find that they can lean on, or is it gonna

1213
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 1: be all right one week at Stevens and one week

1214
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 1: it's uh, you know, Damian Harris and and Hunter Henry

1215
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 1: and you know now it's Johnny, you know, I mean,

1216
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 1: it sounds great on paper, but I also just think

1217
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 1: there's something to Hey, this is who we are, this

1218
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 1: is the guys we know we're at our best with.

1219
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 1: Let's lean into this rather than you know, being a

1220
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 1: state of constantly trying to figure it out. Five five

1221
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 1: past five hundred is the eighth ticket, half line. Let's

1222
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 1: go to that right now, Todd and North Carolina is

1223
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 1: on the line. Hey Todd, Hey guys, it's nice to

1224
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 1: see all there. My first question is I noticed a

1225
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 1: lot of the bigger guys have leg races on. Is

1226
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 1: that just what they do for training camp or is

1227
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 1: that a standard practice thing just to prevent injuries or yeah,

1228
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 1: I'm not sure it's mandatory, but it is highly encouraged

1229
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 1: that um lineman offense and defense where braces during practice. Yeah,

1230
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 1: because my fear is you can get black pretty good

1231
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:52,479
Speaker 1: with a brace if you uh, you know, you're bump

1232
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 1: into somebody here something. Guy. I know one of my

1233
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 1: friends had his kneecap taken off by a guy wearing

1234
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:01,919
Speaker 1: a knee brace when they were both in co Wow. Well,

1235
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 1: you know, we don't want that to happen. But they're

1236
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 1: going at like less than half speed now, So I mean,

1237
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 1: I would say there's a much higher yeah, degree of

1238
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 1: probability of tearing an ecl without a brace on out

1239
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 1: here than someone banging knees with someone with a brace on. Yeah,

1240
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 1: So get they're pretty spread out here, there's not a

1241
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 1: lot of there's no you know, contact really whatsoever. So

1242
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 1: I wouldn't worry about that nice little dump off there

1243
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 1: to JJ Taylor, who you know, just continues to be

1244
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:33,480
Speaker 1: a quick, little elusive water bug, that Darren Sprowls type player.

1245
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 1: I just I know, we had that fumble last year

1246
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 1: against the Bucks and we never saw him. We never

1247
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 1: saw him again. Yeah, You've always been a big JJ Taylor.

1248
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 1: It's just he always pops off the field, especially in

1249
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:48,120
Speaker 1: these situations of seven on seven stuff where he's just

1250
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 1: so quick. Yeah. But you know, but but but it's

1251
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 1: going back to what we were just saying though. I mean,

1252
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 1: they've just between the two guys they drafted this year,

1253
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 1: Stevenson last year. I mean, Harris I'll be entering the

1254
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 1: last year of his deal. It's just it's just tough

1255
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:06,919
Speaker 1: for him, you think that. I mean, in a perfect world,

1256
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 1: he would have slid in for James White last year

1257
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 1: and really sees that role. But you know, went to

1258
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 1: Brandon Bolden. Okay, let's see, so we got Harry Thornton

1259
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 1: and Malcolm Perry at receiver now. Oliver writes in loving

1260
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 1: the coverage watching from the United Kingdom and enjoying seeing

1261
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 1: the minting camp work as someone who's had less experience

1262
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 1: with the sport than most. What is it that catch

1263
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 1: that coaches will be hoping to see from players at

1264
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:45,360
Speaker 1: this stage of the preseason. Can the rookie players impress already?

1265
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 1: Or is it too early? Yeah? You know what you're doing,

1266
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 1: Know what you're doing. I mean, even though it's a

1267
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 1: reduced speed and there's no hitting play call comes in,

1268
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 1: you know you're in the right spot, You're making the

1269
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 1: right decision. I mean, it's you know, these rookies, it's

1270
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 1: it's all coming at him now. It's been coming at

1271
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 1: him for the last two months since they got here,

1272
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:05,040
Speaker 1: I'm sure. But you know, just I think knowing what

1273
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 1: to do and mentally being on the same page and

1274
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 1: not making and you're gonna make mistakes, but not continuing

1275
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 1: to make the same mistakes. The word error repeater, right,

1276
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:15,720
Speaker 1: But the phrase error repeater gets brought up a lot here.

1277
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 1: Would would you say at this point in this season,

1278
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 1: it's easier to hurt yourself or help yourself with what

1279
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 1: you do in the field. I might say hurt yourself.

1280
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 1: I would probably say hurt yourself too. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1281
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 1: just just because if you if you're there and you

1282
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:31,120
Speaker 1: know what to do when you're in the right spot,

1283
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 1: it's not really okay, that's that's the basic. But yeah,

1284
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 1: if you're totally clueless, then I mean yeah, and I

1285
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 1: think it would have to be really egregious both ways

1286
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 1: for it to be an impactful, Like, yeah, we can't

1287
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:43,919
Speaker 1: use this guy. He can't play like he like. It's

1288
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 1: like Mike said, like, you know, the most basic things

1289
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:48,080
Speaker 1: that you've been going over for a month, they're still

1290
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 1: screwing up. But then you get a you know, a

1291
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 1: catchlight we saw with Trey Nixon that can't hurt him.

1292
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:56,240
Speaker 1: You know, the fact that he caught it and he

1293
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 1: outran Jay Jones. I mean, that's this fast guy on

1294
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 1: the roster that they're probably is he. I mean that's

1295
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 1: a catch Yeah, I mean that catch has got to

1296
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 1: be made. I mean, it certainly doesn't help if he

1297
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:08,200
Speaker 1: drops it. But I agree with Mike. I think the

1298
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:11,440
Speaker 1: fact that he got behind Jonathan Jones is probably a

1299
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 1: much better barometer of that play than anything else. He

1300
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 1: he was open and Mac got it to him. Yeah, um,

1301
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 1: you know, another one like these. What are you looking for?

1302
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 1: What are you trying to see? And I always tell

1303
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 1: you I look at new guys to see what they

1304
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 1: can do, what kind of skill set they might have.

1305
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:29,440
Speaker 1: Kevin Harris looks pretty comfortable to me coming out of

1306
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 1: the backfield night. Yeah, have you noticed that a little

1307
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:34,440
Speaker 1: bit like I mean a couple four or five plays ago,

1308
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 1: he caught a little swing from Mac, you know, in stride,

1309
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:39,480
Speaker 1: you know, smooth didn't fight the ball at all. And

1310
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 1: again this is they are going against the defense. But

1311
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:46,120
Speaker 1: this is by no means, you know, overly competitive right here. Um,

1312
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 1: But I just he looked like a guy who's come

1313
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 1: out of the backfield to catch a pass before. And sometimes,

1314
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 1: you know, we all know that some of these guys

1315
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:57,360
Speaker 1: don't look like that. Yep, Jeff and Boston writes, and

1316
01:05:57,480 --> 01:05:59,920
Speaker 1: he wants to know how John Smith looks. I think

1317
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:01,920
Speaker 1: if he makes a big leap and becomes what we

1318
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:04,440
Speaker 1: thought here was going to get from him last year,

1319
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 1: could really change the overall explosiveness in the offense and

1320
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 1: open things up for guys like Parker or Born. That said,

1321
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:13,640
Speaker 1: who do you guys think is the most important player

1322
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 1: on offense besides Mac that will be key for the

1323
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 1: offense being successful this year. That's a good question. I

1324
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 1: think it's Parker. Yeah, that was That was one of

1325
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 1: the first ones I was thinking of. You brought him

1326
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:31,080
Speaker 1: in for a reason, right, Yeah, yeah, Parker was the

1327
01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:33,360
Speaker 1: first thing I thought of too. I'll go with Bourn

1328
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 1: just because I think he's the best receiver they have

1329
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:40,680
Speaker 1: and the most consistent. And by the way, we should

1330
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:45,080
Speaker 1: say we haven't seen him today. Yeah, you know, Kendrick Bourne.

1331
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:48,520
Speaker 1: But I mean, I understand your argument for Parker. I

1332
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:51,520
Speaker 1: just I guess I'm not as confident that he's going

1333
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 1: to be able to play the whole season. There's another

1334
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:57,040
Speaker 1: catch for Taekwon coming a little underneath from Zach. It's

1335
01:06:57,040 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 1: almost like they don't want to show us have him run,

1336
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:05,040
Speaker 1: just gonna have him run two yard routes. Yeah, we's

1337
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 1: I know you can run fast straight up, you know,

1338
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 1: but let's see what I want to see it. I

1339
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:10,960
Speaker 1: want to see, if you know, when he runs fast,

1340
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 1: see takeoff. Yeah, yeah, I think that's a good point though, Paul,

1341
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:20,960
Speaker 1: because my my hesitation with Parker is just that how

1342
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 1: much of an impact is he really going to have?

1343
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 1: And I think game in, game out, you need somebody

1344
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 1: like Born who's going to be the consistent chain mover,

1345
01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:32,560
Speaker 1: big play kind of guy. And more than likely the

1346
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 1: boring answer is probably the right one is there's the

1347
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:42,920
Speaker 1: running backs, Stevenson, Stevenson and Harris. Yeah, and there's Montgomery

1348
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 1: with another catch. I mean there's another guy with you know,

1349
01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:48,520
Speaker 1: I ran through the whole running back group, didn't really

1350
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:50,120
Speaker 1: mention him. I mean, he's been a little bit more

1351
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:52,200
Speaker 1: with the receivers, but that's just that one was out,

1352
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:55,400
Speaker 1: one was out of the backfield, and mostly with the

1353
01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 1: with the uh, with the receivers. You're right, Mike, But

1354
01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:00,120
Speaker 1: you're right, Mike. But he's in that mix of of

1355
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 1: you know, how do those rules all get get divvied up? It's, uh,

1356
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:05,440
Speaker 1: You've got a lot of guys who can do a

1357
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 1: lot of different things. Samara's gonna have to jump, she's

1358
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:10,960
Speaker 1: got to get ready for an interview with Kendrick Bourne.

1359
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:13,280
Speaker 1: Oh that's where he is. Yeah. Oh, so he's getting

1360
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:15,480
Speaker 1: ready for an interview with you instead of practicing. I

1361
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:20,719
Speaker 1: get it. I get it. Uh, let's see, Pete writes

1362
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:23,440
Speaker 1: in uh, give me your best thought on the outside

1363
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:28,160
Speaker 1: chance to make the roster somebody with a with like

1364
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:30,759
Speaker 1: a dark horse kind of Oh he doesn't give us anything.

1365
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:35,479
Speaker 1: Oh jeez, yeah, no, no multiple choice here. You know,

1366
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:38,040
Speaker 1: this is I this is probably not a great one.

1367
01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:40,040
Speaker 1: But we haven't even seen him yet and he's not

1368
01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:42,400
Speaker 1: out here today as Andrew Stubert. But that was somebody

1369
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:45,599
Speaker 1: that you know Andy talking to Andy as well. Heart

1370
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:47,600
Speaker 1: he's kind of on him too, like, you know, just

1371
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:50,840
Speaker 1: a random low level offensive lineman that maybe comes in

1372
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:54,920
Speaker 1: and is you know, instantly the third guy. Uh that

1373
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 1: that that's the first one that kind of jumped to mind.

1374
01:08:57,240 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a great one, um, just because

1375
01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 1: he hasn't really been around and I have no reason

1376
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:02,559
Speaker 1: other than just to say he looks like a big

1377
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:06,519
Speaker 1: mean dude that that played at Michigan. But um, yeah,

1378
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 1: I mean it's hard. It's because there's a lot of

1379
01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:13,439
Speaker 1: B level guys that they do. Yeah, Matt, but do

1380
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:15,360
Speaker 1: you know who's a surprise? You know what I mean? Like,

1381
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 1: who's an outside Like I think that's a hard one

1382
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 1: without guys to sort of pick from him. Okay, here's one.

1383
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:24,120
Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna happen. But to me, an

1384
01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:27,479
Speaker 1: outside guy to make the roster would be nikkil Harry Huh, Yeah,

1385
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, I don't agree with you. I don't

1386
01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:31,720
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be on the roster, but if he

1387
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:34,840
Speaker 1: made it, that would be an outside Yeah, you know,

1388
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:37,280
Speaker 1: but I don't. I don't. That's not my pick. That's

1389
01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:41,280
Speaker 1: not my choice. I get what you're doing. Yeah, so

1390
01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't. I don't know. It's it's

1391
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 1: so wide open, you know. Uh, after mini camp, maybe

1392
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 1: even after the we have another OTA next week that

1393
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:56,040
Speaker 1: we're scheduled to do, I'll probably put together a roster

1394
01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:59,240
Speaker 1: one point zero because just because it's fun. Yeah, it

1395
01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 1: is fun. It's fun. Just a fact you guys probably

1396
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:06,240
Speaker 1: wouldn't like it because you two don't like fun, just

1397
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:10,040
Speaker 1: as long as it's not team pictures after touchdowns. That's

1398
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:14,639
Speaker 1: Caberras from Toledo and Morocco. And he's really not happy.

1399
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:17,840
Speaker 1: Oh I'm sorry, he says, I am so pessimistic this

1400
01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:20,960
Speaker 1: upcoming NFL year. I am predicting a record of seven

1401
01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:25,639
Speaker 1: and ten at best. Belichick coaching philosophy is prehistoric. From

1402
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:28,439
Speaker 1: watching his press conference, the guy still thinks that he

1403
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:32,040
Speaker 1: has the goat at quarterback and players willing to do

1404
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:35,280
Speaker 1: what it takes to win. This generation of players live

1405
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:38,599
Speaker 1: off their brand in social media and will not answer

1406
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:41,479
Speaker 1: to an old man. Tom was driving force in the

1407
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:44,719
Speaker 1: Patriots dynasty. Just watch all the Super Bowls. Every single

1408
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 1: one of them was a defensive failure by a defensive genius.

1409
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:52,760
Speaker 1: The fourteen and eighteen were mainly victories because of other

1410
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:57,799
Speaker 1: coaches peeing their pants. I don't know, man, that's pretty harsh.

1411
01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:01,479
Speaker 1: That that that's way harsh. Plus I don't really care

1412
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:04,559
Speaker 1: if like they won the soup like the actual Super

1413
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:07,680
Speaker 1: Bowl game for one of those reasons. You're telling me

1414
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:11,680
Speaker 1: that they won, you know, seventeen eighteen, nineteen games to

1415
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:14,519
Speaker 1: get there because the other you know what I mean, right, Like, yeah,

1416
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:17,559
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll pete his pants with the game on the line,

1417
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 1: he made a god awful decision. But you're telling me

1418
01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:22,920
Speaker 1: the fourteen team wasn't worthy of being where they were. Now,

1419
01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:25,719
Speaker 1: what he's saying about the modern athlete being a little

1420
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:28,240
Speaker 1: bit different, Yeah, I think this truth that there is truth,

1421
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:29,840
Speaker 1: And I think Bill has said that, and I think

1422
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 1: Bill has also adjusted somewhat to that. Could you imagine

1423
01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:36,880
Speaker 1: fifteen years ago Bill being is embracing of social media

1424
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:40,160
Speaker 1: with these guys as he is, right right, Like I don't.

1425
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:42,840
Speaker 1: I haven't heard of situations with these guys have like

1426
01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:45,920
Speaker 1: lost their privileges to be on social media. I think

1427
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:49,840
Speaker 1: he's he's adapted. Does he like it? Probably not? I

1428
01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:52,080
Speaker 1: got a dumb thought. This occurred to me, and you

1429
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 1: can tell me if I'm anywhere close. But watching the Celtics.

1430
01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:58,120
Speaker 1: You've been watching the Celtics in the playoffs, and I mean,

1431
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:00,640
Speaker 1: obviously their their team, their core. I'm proud of you that.

1432
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:02,360
Speaker 1: I'm proud of you that you've watched a couple of games.

1433
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:06,679
Speaker 1: Is that generation, but they feel so mercurial from game

1434
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:08,680
Speaker 1: to game, and you can't. I mean some of it

1435
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:10,240
Speaker 1: was like they're either blowing guys out or they're not

1436
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:12,560
Speaker 1: blowing guys out. Some of it. I wonder if you

1437
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:14,600
Speaker 1: know some of what the guy was writing in about it,

1438
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:18,479
Speaker 1: just you know, this generation, it's just so mentally, it seems. Yeah,

1439
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:21,840
Speaker 1: it's tough. It's tough to find that like consistent killer

1440
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:23,920
Speaker 1: mentality at least. I mean, that's just my bad example,

1441
01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:26,040
Speaker 1: look at watching the Celtics periment. But it's true. Why

1442
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:28,080
Speaker 1: are they sometimes so good and other times they look

1443
01:12:28,120 --> 01:12:30,559
Speaker 1: like they're not even here tonight. That's the word mercurial.

1444
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:33,519
Speaker 1: If they're hot and cold, they're they're all over the map.

1445
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:36,320
Speaker 1: And with that particular team, I'm not we already spent

1446
01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:37,800
Speaker 1: enough time in the Bruins. We don't need to do

1447
01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:39,920
Speaker 1: in the Celtics too. But I do think that they're

1448
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:42,120
Speaker 1: very young. Yeah, there's a young team. They have one,

1449
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:45,160
Speaker 1: they have one, they have one veteran now and now

1450
01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:48,240
Speaker 1: half it, as Mark Jackson would say, um, but the

1451
01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:50,360
Speaker 1: rest of them, you know, they're twenty four, twenty five

1452
01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:53,439
Speaker 1: years old and they're they're finding their way. Yep. So

1453
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:57,880
Speaker 1: a little bit more uh now full team drills, working

1454
01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:00,320
Speaker 1: on the running game. So we got a eleven on

1455
01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:04,720
Speaker 1: eleven now right, Yeah, eleven on eleven, some significant MAC

1456
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 1: doing a while to watching the rotation going on. Yeah,

1457
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:11,800
Speaker 1: so Bradley, what's his name is Zappy? Is that his

1458
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:15,400
Speaker 1: first name? Bradley Bailey? Bailey? Y you just confuse me.

1459
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:19,640
Speaker 1: We have a Bradley on the on the Yeah, Bradley's

1460
01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 1: at the department now he's probably happy. He's pretty happy

1461
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:25,960
Speaker 1: with Zappy. Yeah, he's a happy guy in general. He's

1462
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:33,599
Speaker 1: no slappy. He's zappy. Oh boy, going at shotgun now.

1463
01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:36,720
Speaker 1: Zappy is Mac on the center. I like what I

1464
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:40,599
Speaker 1: see out of Zappy. Would he be m a dark

1465
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:44,000
Speaker 1: horse to make the squad? I think Zappy should. Uh

1466
01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:47,559
Speaker 1: he'll probably be on the practice squad. Huh, I mean

1467
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:50,040
Speaker 1: I think he could. Yeah, I mean I could see

1468
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 1: either way if they didn't think that he would be

1469
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:54,639
Speaker 1: able to to stay on the practice squad. But yeah,

1470
01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:59,599
Speaker 1: I mean I think practice squad makes sense. He's looked

1471
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:02,000
Speaker 1: pretty good. I mean it's just limited stuff, but but

1472
01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:04,120
Speaker 1: I think he's got some nice little zip on the ball.

1473
01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:06,200
Speaker 1: Seemed like he's pretty decisive where he's going with it

1474
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:09,280
Speaker 1: and stuff. Yeah, I mean he doesn't very very He

1475
01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:12,360
Speaker 1: doesn't look like he's overwhelmed or anything like that. Um.

1476
01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:14,400
Speaker 1: But I mean I said a lot of these things

1477
01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:17,479
Speaker 1: last year about Mac Jones. He looks like most of

1478
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:20,840
Speaker 1: the other rookie quarterbacks that they've had in camp. Um,

1479
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:23,920
Speaker 1: you know, and at this stage, I'm saying, like you

1480
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:29,800
Speaker 1: can't really tell until they got It's like you can

1481
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:33,400
Speaker 1: look okay, it's easy to look really bad. It's hard

1482
01:14:33,439 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 1: to look excellent right now. Yeah, I would agree with that.

1483
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:40,720
Speaker 1: I think it's easier to look really bad. I think

1484
01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:43,880
Speaker 1: I see Ivan Fears in the end zone nearest to

1485
01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:48,000
Speaker 1: us walking across. Is that Let's see that would be

1486
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:53,120
Speaker 1: Ian Fear. Yeah, so, uh, all the old guys talking

1487
01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:58,000
Speaker 1: about sunsetting people. There you go, Ernie's here, Ivan's here,

1488
01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:01,360
Speaker 1: They're all in the offensive huddle. What is going on?

1489
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:06,080
Speaker 1: Where's Dante? Dante coming out here? He's probably up at

1490
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 1: the infernal So now the plays coming toward us? Actor

1491
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:18,360
Speaker 1: Trey Nixon again. Yeah, the Ernie Adams pick there you go. Well,

1492
01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:19,880
Speaker 1: that's a good I mean, that'd be a good pick

1493
01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:22,800
Speaker 1: for an outside, right outside job, right spot to make

1494
01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:24,920
Speaker 1: the roster. You know we talked about, um, you know,

1495
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:28,000
Speaker 1: the number of wide receivers they have. That would be

1496
01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:30,920
Speaker 1: a long shot for him to make it. Tim from

1497
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:35,200
Speaker 1: Hubbardston Mass writes in with Romeo, we just mentioned some

1498
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:38,879
Speaker 1: of the old guys. With Romeo Cornell announcing his retirement,

1499
01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:41,519
Speaker 1: do you guys think he belongs in the Patriots Hall

1500
01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:44,760
Speaker 1: of Fame someday? Do you think coordinators who helped us

1501
01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:48,439
Speaker 1: win titles like Cronell Weiss and McDaniels should eventually get in.

1502
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:53,040
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't either, So there, and you're not

1503
01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:55,240
Speaker 1: going to find anyone who likes Romeo Cornell more than

1504
01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:56,960
Speaker 1: I do. Right, It's one of the nicest men that

1505
01:15:57,360 --> 01:16:01,400
Speaker 1: we've ever had here UM. But I mean, I think

1506
01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:05,120
Speaker 1: he was a really good assistant coach. I think Dante

1507
01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:08,560
Speaker 1: Scarnekia is an institution. Yeah right, and he would I

1508
01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:11,519
Speaker 1: would make an exception for that based on longevity, the

1509
01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:14,760
Speaker 1: amount of different errors he was a part of UM

1510
01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 1: and all the different things that he did along the way.

1511
01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:21,080
Speaker 1: But I mean, I think they've had a lot of

1512
01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:23,519
Speaker 1: good assistant coaches over the years. I think Romeo is

1513
01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:26,519
Speaker 1: one of them. I think that's that's enough. What do

1514
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 1: you guys? I mean, you guys agree. I agree, especially

1515
01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:31,120
Speaker 1: on Scarnekio, which uh I know. I brought it up

1516
01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:33,160
Speaker 1: a couple of times in high school. I worked a

1517
01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:37,400
Speaker 1: game in nineteen ninety two against the Saints, and digging

1518
01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:39,559
Speaker 1: that up on YouTube, I didn't even realize Dante Scarnekia

1519
01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:42,400
Speaker 1: had been the coach for that game. He was the Yeah,

1520
01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:46,439
Speaker 1: he was the head coach after McPherson got sick, right, Yeah, yeah,

1521
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:48,439
Speaker 1: so there he was on the sideline. So I mean,

1522
01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:52,719
Speaker 1: he's just been around forever, he's done at all. Yeah,

1523
01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:57,360
Speaker 1: that was one of those players they just ran um

1524
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:02,120
Speaker 1: but kind of a quick slant of Thornton in traffic,

1525
01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:04,839
Speaker 1: and that's one of those kind of plays that his size.

1526
01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:07,920
Speaker 1: I wonder if he has the frame to withstand. You know,

1527
01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:10,760
Speaker 1: there was three guys that were converging and he would

1528
01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:13,680
Speaker 1: have taken a big hit on that had been you know,

1529
01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:16,720
Speaker 1: actual football. Well, and that's like, that's kind of like

1530
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:18,680
Speaker 1: what we saw from Harry some of those plays. And

1531
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:21,320
Speaker 1: even with Harry's size, he had trouble right, you know,

1532
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:24,160
Speaker 1: with some of the catch point and are both last

1533
01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:26,160
Speaker 1: year took some big hits on some of those plays.

1534
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:29,280
Speaker 1: I know it's kind of hard to keep track of everything,

1535
01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:34,120
Speaker 1: but have we noticed the usage of win yet? H Yeah,

1536
01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:37,200
Speaker 1: are we allowed to notice the usage? Has he been

1537
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:40,280
Speaker 1: out there? He has been out there's been he's been

1538
01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:43,519
Speaker 1: at tackle. He's been at tackle. Okay, so it's not

1539
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:49,040
Speaker 1: like he's he's being ostracized because of you know, no

1540
01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:51,719
Speaker 1: him not being here, no, no, but uh, but maybe

1541
01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:54,280
Speaker 1: some some slight adjustments into into how they're looking at

1542
01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:56,880
Speaker 1: him Okay, all right, good enough. I mean, right now,

1543
01:17:57,000 --> 01:17:59,360
Speaker 1: Trent Brown is at left tackle and Isaiah Wins at

1544
01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:01,920
Speaker 1: right tackle. I mean we're just looking right at them.

1545
01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:04,680
Speaker 1: And I don't know if that's like any kind of

1546
01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:07,800
Speaker 1: a permanent fix or what they're gonna do, but that's

1547
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:14,000
Speaker 1: where they'll lined up. Yep. This is mostly inside inside

1548
01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:17,120
Speaker 1: run game work. It seems a little play acts and stuff.

1549
01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:20,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, and it's further lending credence to that Matt

1550
01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:24,040
Speaker 1: Patricia theory because he was heavily involved with the play

1551
01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:26,840
Speaker 1: calling on both sides. Yeah, with all the running that

1552
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:29,479
Speaker 1: they just exactly because now now it's a mix of

1553
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:33,000
Speaker 1: run in pass with the line out there. So this

1554
01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:35,840
Speaker 1: is more like, you know, a game situation. So is

1555
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:41,200
Speaker 1: that is that McMillan inside with Bentley down there? Deuce? Yep?

1556
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:44,519
Speaker 1: Can you give me any other details to the defense

1557
01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:47,960
Speaker 1: because I've been neglecting that Ronnie Ronnie off the edge

1558
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:50,920
Speaker 1: right now a little bit of So Ronnie is with

1559
01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:54,760
Speaker 1: that a little bod Yeah, not right now, Judeon's off.

1560
01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:56,559
Speaker 1: I mean they've been they've been kind of mixing and matching.

1561
01:18:56,920 --> 01:19:00,240
Speaker 1: Uch was out there earlier across from Judean and Um

1562
01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:03,360
Speaker 1: so there's been there's been some rotation going on. I mean,

1563
01:19:03,439 --> 01:19:06,599
Speaker 1: Joan Williams was out there with you know, the quote

1564
01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:08,680
Speaker 1: unquote starters. I guess you could call it. I mean

1565
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:11,200
Speaker 1: it's just, you know, there's always got like one or

1566
01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:14,040
Speaker 1: two guys out there that maybe don't quite fit what

1567
01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:17,240
Speaker 1: you're what you think you're looking at. So who's sixty

1568
01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:23,720
Speaker 1: seven and blue? That's the guy from Texas? Right? Okay, No,

1569
01:19:24,520 --> 01:19:28,320
Speaker 1: I'm hold on, I'll look it up. Hold on, he's

1570
01:19:28,360 --> 01:19:31,760
Speaker 1: got long hair. He looks like that's the guy. That's

1571
01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:35,599
Speaker 1: the guy who was thinking of Yeah, yeah, special Teams, Nightmare,

1572
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:40,439
Speaker 1: Wye Nightmare. Oh. I don't know. He's just he's he's

1573
01:19:40,439 --> 01:19:43,120
Speaker 1: one of those like super special teamers with like long hair. Yeah,

1574
01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:49,599
Speaker 1: he just he's just embodies that those guys teams Paul's favorite.

1575
01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:55,000
Speaker 1: H let's see. Matt writes in from the UK and

1576
01:19:55,160 --> 01:19:58,000
Speaker 1: Devin uk Uh. He says, I've been a bit behind

1577
01:19:58,080 --> 01:19:59,519
Speaker 1: on the show for the past few weeks and it

1578
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:02,599
Speaker 1: just called up and heard the news about Eric. Everyone

1579
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:04,639
Speaker 1: was being so nice about him in his final week.

1580
01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:07,720
Speaker 1: I'm wondering when the true feelings will come out. My

1581
01:20:07,880 --> 01:20:10,200
Speaker 1: biggest question is who is going to sit quietly at

1582
01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 1: the back, too scared to say anything now. Yeah, I

1583
01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:14,680
Speaker 1: would say a couple of weeks you might hear a

1584
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:17,200
Speaker 1: little bit more truth to start. Yeah, just trashing what

1585
01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:20,760
Speaker 1: with mini camp and things that we actually have to cover.

1586
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:23,720
Speaker 1: Eric was a great guy. I don't think if there's

1587
01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:25,559
Speaker 1: anything you can say now you wouldn't say in front

1588
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:27,240
Speaker 1: of his face to make fun of about him that

1589
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:30,360
Speaker 1: I was certainly the case for man, It's like, what

1590
01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:33,559
Speaker 1: could you say to him that you haven't said to him? Right? Also,

1591
01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:35,559
Speaker 1: I just want to I just want to put Paul's

1592
01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:38,680
Speaker 1: mind to rest regarding Mac Wilson. I've been playing one

1593
01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:41,600
Speaker 1: of the Madden games recently, and Mac develops into a

1594
01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:44,760
Speaker 1: star player, So don't worry. In all seriousness, I know

1595
01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:47,400
Speaker 1: Paul likes people to say what they think out loud

1596
01:20:47,479 --> 01:20:50,000
Speaker 1: before it happens. So I just wanted to say that

1597
01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:52,599
Speaker 1: I'm really excited about having Mac Wilson on our team,

1598
01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:55,000
Speaker 1: and I believe that he will be a major player

1599
01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:58,320
Speaker 1: for us and develop into a really solid NFL player.

1600
01:20:59,120 --> 01:21:02,160
Speaker 1: All Right, he can run well all the beginning part

1601
01:21:02,240 --> 01:21:04,200
Speaker 1: of that is gonna be true. He's going to be

1602
01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:05,920
Speaker 1: a major player. I don't know how good he is,

1603
01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:09,120
Speaker 1: but he's going to play. Yeah. So now that we're

1604
01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:14,640
Speaker 1: doing some special teams. Yeah, and this is my my

1605
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:19,080
Speaker 1: annual Why would they practice punting if they didn't because

1606
01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:23,200
Speaker 1: they have to punt rum. But anyway, my annual teas

1607
01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:26,160
Speaker 1: is taking place today with Kyle Dugger getting a lot

1608
01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:31,120
Speaker 1: of pun return rests um. Unfortunately we don't generally get

1609
01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:35,160
Speaker 1: to see it when it counts. But Jonathan Jones has

1610
01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:38,040
Speaker 1: been fielding some. Jack Jones too. Jack Jones has been

1611
01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:42,600
Speaker 1: fielding some. We've seen that all spring so far, and

1612
01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:46,439
Speaker 1: I think Miles Bryant was getting some earlier. Yep. Yeah,

1613
01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:48,439
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's still out there, but we

1614
01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:52,519
Speaker 1: haven't seen. Marcus Jones is in a red jersey. Yeah,

1615
01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:57,360
Speaker 1: double shoulder surgery this offseason. So Alex and Pentucket love

1616
01:21:57,479 --> 01:22:00,360
Speaker 1: to see the video content. That was great. Seems like

1617
01:22:00,479 --> 01:22:02,599
Speaker 1: Mike and Paul have been agreeing so much that they

1618
01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:06,559
Speaker 1: agreed to dress the similar today blue. Yeah. Yeah, unlike

1619
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:07,880
Speaker 1: me and Fred on the Draft show, we had the

1620
01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:10,120
Speaker 1: same shirt on teens. I will agree with Mike and

1621
01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:12,720
Speaker 1: Fred that the defense is more of my worry for

1622
01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:15,400
Speaker 1: this season. Again, I'm hoping the youth can step up

1623
01:22:15,439 --> 01:22:17,880
Speaker 1: and take their chances. When I see mini camp, I

1624
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:20,679
Speaker 1: sometimes get lost with what I should be taking away

1625
01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:24,080
Speaker 1: from this since there's no pads and minimal real football.

1626
01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:27,160
Speaker 1: So my question is, what is something that you guys

1627
01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:29,680
Speaker 1: each take away from a mini camp that gives you

1628
01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 1: hope for the season? If anything, you ask me after Thursday, yeah,

1629
01:22:35,400 --> 01:22:37,560
Speaker 1: we're gonna have three days of this, So I have

1630
01:22:37,680 --> 01:22:40,200
Speaker 1: to be honest, like, there's really nothing for me, Yeah,

1631
01:22:40,280 --> 01:22:43,080
Speaker 1: because I just think this is all installation stuff. This

1632
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:46,439
Speaker 1: is that you have to get the system down, and

1633
01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:48,880
Speaker 1: that's that's first and foremost. I don't think you see

1634
01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:50,840
Speaker 1: a lot of physical stuff that you can get wowed

1635
01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:53,080
Speaker 1: by here. Yeah. I would just say last year was

1636
01:22:53,120 --> 01:22:56,120
Speaker 1: probably the exception, just because I saw Mack and he

1637
01:22:56,240 --> 01:22:57,760
Speaker 1: looked like he kind of knew what he was doing,

1638
01:22:57,840 --> 01:22:59,880
Speaker 1: and that was at least, you know, for a teena

1639
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:02,000
Speaker 1: didn't have a quarterback and didn't know what direction they

1640
01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:04,160
Speaker 1: were going for. That was That was it for me.

1641
01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:05,840
Speaker 1: But I mean, for all the questions that I have

1642
01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:08,840
Speaker 1: about this team, there's not really much that can happen

1643
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:11,040
Speaker 1: over the next few days that would really put my

1644
01:23:11,160 --> 01:23:13,840
Speaker 1: mind at ease in terms of setting the edge or

1645
01:23:14,360 --> 01:23:15,920
Speaker 1: you know, being able to cover some of the best

1646
01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:18,679
Speaker 1: weapons in the league, and you know, the pure football perspective.

1647
01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:21,280
Speaker 1: I agree with Mike. Now just regular I like to see,

1648
01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:25,280
Speaker 1: you know, like key guys that might be battling injuries,

1649
01:23:25,320 --> 01:23:27,920
Speaker 1: they look healthy. Stuff like that. Like I said, like

1650
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:30,920
Speaker 1: I said, attendance, Mike, I think you made the comment

1651
01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:33,240
Speaker 1: that you know, from a from a health standpoint, it

1652
01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:37,200
Speaker 1: looks like virtually everybody is out here you know that

1653
01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:39,600
Speaker 1: we know of that's you know, coming off injuries. So

1654
01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:41,720
Speaker 1: that's a good sign. You don't want to have key

1655
01:23:41,760 --> 01:23:43,560
Speaker 1: players that are going to be missed this, like like

1656
01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:46,360
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo is gonna have to miss the whole offseason.

1657
01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:50,040
Speaker 1: You don't want a situation where, right, like Savante Parker

1658
01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:52,479
Speaker 1: was banged up hitting into this didn't he can't get

1659
01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:54,720
Speaker 1: to do any of it. Right. Those are things that

1660
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:56,920
Speaker 1: can give you some you know, optimism coming out of

1661
01:23:56,960 --> 01:23:59,479
Speaker 1: mini camps while they're doing special teams a good time

1662
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:05,320
Speaker 1: for some trip. Excellent about this is from Enrique and Monterey. Um,

1663
01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:09,479
Speaker 1: what is the only team to miss making the playoffs

1664
01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:13,840
Speaker 1: for six consecutive seasons after winning the Super Bowl? Huh?

1665
01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:19,519
Speaker 1: After winning the Super Bowl. Six seasons after that they

1666
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:27,519
Speaker 1: didn't make the playoffs. It's Denver is correct. They haven't

1667
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:33,360
Speaker 1: reached the playoffs since winning Who was the only player

1668
01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:40,800
Speaker 1: in NFL history to win three consecutive consecutive Super Bowls? Uh?

1669
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:47,599
Speaker 1: And he did it with two teams? Oh well, obviously,

1670
01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:50,559
Speaker 1: Well he could have done it with three teams. That's true.

1671
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:52,880
Speaker 1: That's a good job putting me in my place. Fred,

1672
01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:57,679
Speaker 1: You don't do that enough, is it? Leagaric Blunt? Nope,

1673
01:24:58,720 --> 01:25:05,960
Speaker 1: Charles Haley noe. But you're close with one of the teams. No,

1674
01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:09,920
Speaker 1: Ken Norton Junior ninety two and ninety three with Dallas

1675
01:25:10,080 --> 01:25:12,479
Speaker 1: in ninety four with San Francisco. There's a lot of

1676
01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:17,920
Speaker 1: cross pollination with those two teams. That was. What is

1677
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:21,000
Speaker 1: the only team that hasn't won eleven or more games

1678
01:25:21,160 --> 01:25:24,599
Speaker 1: in the last thirty years? Jets? Oh No, they did

1679
01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:32,960
Speaker 1: eleven or more games in the last thirty years. Detroit Washington.

1680
01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:36,720
Speaker 1: They won fourteen games in ninety one and haven't won

1681
01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:42,639
Speaker 1: eleven games or more since. Commanders two more. Only one

1682
01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:45,559
Speaker 1: oh and four team has ever made the playoffs. Which

1683
01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:50,320
Speaker 1: team did it? Chargers, Yes, in ninety two and Finally,

1684
01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:54,400
Speaker 1: what team has the least playoff wins since the nineteen

1685
01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:59,439
Speaker 1: seventy merger has only won one playoff game? Detroit? Detroit

1686
01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:01,880
Speaker 1: is correct? And do you for the bonus? Do you

1687
01:26:01,960 --> 01:26:06,120
Speaker 1: know when they won that game? Ninety one or two?

1688
01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:10,559
Speaker 1: Any one is correct against Dallas? Good? Paul, all right,

1689
01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:15,439
Speaker 1: he knows his Detroit Lions trivia. That's from Hardy. Oh yeah,

1690
01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:18,519
Speaker 1: we die, We die with Hardy every week. Yeah, all right,

1691
01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:21,920
Speaker 1: So special teams practice is over since we can go

1692
01:26:21,960 --> 01:26:24,400
Speaker 1: away from the trivia, right, and so was the trivia.

1693
01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:28,400
Speaker 1: Offense and defense are both back on the field. Looks

1694
01:26:28,439 --> 01:26:32,120
Speaker 1: like seven and seven to start. Bill is in the

1695
01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:35,559
Speaker 1: backfield of the offense to start, which was the judge

1696
01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:38,600
Speaker 1: Parker a galore with Trey Nixon inside? And is that

1697
01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:46,360
Speaker 1: Jonah and Jonah bloods on Johanna? Oh that's a rocket

1698
01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:52,160
Speaker 1: yeah behind him behind it on his ear? Good? Yeah? Yeah?

1699
01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:56,080
Speaker 1: So what do we give me some defense here? Sure

1700
01:26:56,120 --> 01:27:02,280
Speaker 1: you got uh Dougger, mccordy and bloods Our cornerbacks are

1701
01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:09,960
Speaker 1: Jalen Mills and Terrence what is it? Terrence Mitchell? Mitchell

1702
01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:13,280
Speaker 1: j Jones in the middle and uh yeah McMillan as

1703
01:27:13,360 --> 01:27:17,479
Speaker 1: the as the soul inside linebacker of the coverage. A

1704
01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:23,160
Speaker 1: little bit different ass in there. Sorry about that. There's

1705
01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:25,400
Speaker 1: no cough button with these train Nixon back out too.

1706
01:27:25,920 --> 01:27:28,280
Speaker 1: We have new microphones. I know they're excellent though. Yeah,

1707
01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:37,960
Speaker 1: very fancy. Matt Morrel, no cost spirit toing downfield Parker

1708
01:27:38,200 --> 01:27:41,080
Speaker 1: contest test to catch against Mills up the right sideline,

1709
01:27:41,200 --> 01:27:43,280
Speaker 1: and that's what I think. Are you looking for for Parker?

1710
01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:48,760
Speaker 1: That's what he does. And he's hurt Nor Josh Kiddingding

1711
01:27:49,800 --> 01:27:54,800
Speaker 1: that was for Paul he was down. Uh. Yeah, they're

1712
01:27:54,840 --> 01:27:56,759
Speaker 1: kind of sticking with this group. I have noticed Joshua

1713
01:27:56,800 --> 01:27:59,519
Speaker 1: bloodso has uh you know, you talk about guys that

1714
01:27:59,600 --> 01:28:01,760
Speaker 1: are that that's kind of sniff. That surprised me a

1715
01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:05,400
Speaker 1: little bit. That's that has surprised me. I wonder if

1716
01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:08,280
Speaker 1: it's got to do with the state of health of

1717
01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:12,840
Speaker 1: some of the guys, like a Peppers as as an example. Yeah,

1718
01:28:12,920 --> 01:28:16,640
Speaker 1: but he has been out there a little bit now,

1719
01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:20,960
Speaker 1: Phillips out there, Jesus Harry ran right by Mills there.

1720
01:28:22,520 --> 01:28:26,320
Speaker 1: I don't like to see that little dump off up.

1721
01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:29,200
Speaker 1: Just wonder about the effort here, you know, like, well, yeah,

1722
01:28:29,640 --> 01:28:32,600
Speaker 1: you're right, Fred, because the defense is really at it.

1723
01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:35,240
Speaker 1: I mean seven on seven in full pads, the defense

1724
01:28:35,280 --> 01:28:37,599
Speaker 1: has had a disadvantage. But when you can't hit right,

1725
01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:40,439
Speaker 1: like at least when they're in full pads in training camp,

1726
01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:42,880
Speaker 1: they can try to give a semblance of a press

1727
01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:44,680
Speaker 1: at the line. These guys are getting run right by

1728
01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:47,240
Speaker 1: off the line yet so he gets a Malcolm Butler,

1729
01:28:47,320 --> 01:28:50,960
Speaker 1: Jack Jones getting a chance now at corner. See Howyer

1730
01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:55,280
Speaker 1: has jumped over Zappie in the depth chart over. Well,

1731
01:28:55,320 --> 01:29:00,519
Speaker 1: he's a coach. I think he should to send those

1732
01:29:00,600 --> 01:29:03,960
Speaker 1: funky little hats. You know, he should have shot the helmet,

1733
01:29:04,080 --> 01:29:06,280
Speaker 1: just wear his little hat out. He should shoe it

1734
01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:09,519
Speaker 1: his shoe. I like that. You like that? No, it's

1735
01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:14,599
Speaker 1: Richard since like the nineteen twenties newsman. Yeah, sure, Sam

1736
01:29:14,680 --> 01:29:17,800
Speaker 1: like Adam on the run. So would you say Jack

1737
01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:22,800
Speaker 1: Jones and Malcolm Butler and Myles Bryant. Yeah, rotating guys

1738
01:29:22,840 --> 01:29:29,760
Speaker 1: in and uh yeah, I mean it definitely had Mack Wilson, Yes,

1739
01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:35,000
Speaker 1: so yeah again mack Wilson, Ray Kwa, McMillan definitely in

1740
01:29:35,040 --> 01:29:44,519
Speaker 1: the mix. Adrian Phillips, Bilkerson, Oh not good, drop by

1741
01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:48,120
Speaker 1: I felt my guy that looks really comfortable Harris, it's

1742
01:29:48,200 --> 01:29:50,720
Speaker 1: very comfortable dropping the ball. Didn't look comfortable on that one.

1743
01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:55,200
Speaker 1: I didn't see. It doesn't count. Yeah, Alex has some

1744
01:29:55,360 --> 01:30:00,400
Speaker 1: criticism for Duce. He's in stowed in um stowed in Fred.

1745
01:30:00,479 --> 01:30:02,240
Speaker 1: Have you given any thought to the future and how

1746
01:30:02,280 --> 01:30:04,720
Speaker 1: to spice up the show? I see you replace Scalovino

1747
01:30:05,080 --> 01:30:07,800
Speaker 1: with a feminine female side of thought with Tamarrow, which

1748
01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:11,200
Speaker 1: should work. But unfortunately Deuce doesn't have that inner andy

1749
01:30:11,479 --> 01:30:14,439
Speaker 1: where he gets angry during arguments. It seems like Deuce

1750
01:30:14,520 --> 01:30:17,600
Speaker 1: gets more upset than angry. It's more of an exasperation

1751
01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:19,880
Speaker 1: when people call him out. Would love if he had

1752
01:30:19,960 --> 01:30:23,559
Speaker 1: some passion and bristled back at you guys and callers

1753
01:30:23,640 --> 01:30:28,000
Speaker 1: with some genuine anger. Jack Jones had to work on that.

1754
01:30:28,320 --> 01:30:31,599
Speaker 1: Jack Jones is very aggressive. Yeah, can I just say that? Okay?

1755
01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:37,000
Speaker 1: He just tackled Christian Wilkerson on a short drag across Earlier.

1756
01:30:37,080 --> 01:30:39,320
Speaker 1: He had a nice pass break up on Tie Montgomery

1757
01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:43,080
Speaker 1: where he showed some aggressiveness, kind of the Malcolm Butler

1758
01:30:43,160 --> 01:30:45,360
Speaker 1: thing we talked about earlier. He's just like, he's kind

1759
01:30:45,400 --> 01:30:48,960
Speaker 1: of around a lot. He's active. Jalen Mills playing back

1760
01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:51,640
Speaker 1: in this second group here. Have you noticed that they

1761
01:30:51,720 --> 01:30:55,080
Speaker 1: move them over now he's at safety. It's just they're

1762
01:30:55,160 --> 01:30:59,120
Speaker 1: moving guys around. That's probably the stuff we're supposed to

1763
01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:01,760
Speaker 1: stay away from, Fred. But I mean, I feel like

1764
01:31:01,840 --> 01:31:03,800
Speaker 1: each time you say something, though, it adds another like

1765
01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:06,559
Speaker 1: random layer to it. If you know. It's just everybody's

1766
01:31:06,640 --> 01:31:08,720
Speaker 1: kind of playing everywhere. It is well, and it is,

1767
01:31:08,800 --> 01:31:11,120
Speaker 1: and that's why I'm trying to downplay and that's why

1768
01:31:11,160 --> 01:31:13,280
Speaker 1: i made a joke out of it. Yeah, this is

1769
01:31:13,360 --> 01:31:16,040
Speaker 1: not like Fred, I think you made about ten minutes

1770
01:31:16,040 --> 01:31:17,800
Speaker 1: ago the comment about you know, you don't know how

1771
01:31:18,960 --> 01:31:21,679
Speaker 1: intense this is, how you know how how much full

1772
01:31:21,720 --> 01:31:25,040
Speaker 1: speed it is. I think this is almost entirely about

1773
01:31:25,080 --> 01:31:29,479
Speaker 1: installation and comfort, comfort level. Yeah yeah, but there's been

1774
01:31:29,520 --> 01:31:32,320
Speaker 1: plenty of there's things to people that have speculated that

1775
01:31:32,439 --> 01:31:35,400
Speaker 1: that mills could maybe be a long term replacement and

1776
01:31:35,439 --> 01:31:38,080
Speaker 1: free safety or for DMC, because you know what, we

1777
01:31:38,120 --> 01:31:43,760
Speaker 1: don't have safeties. I felt, right, we do. We got

1778
01:31:43,800 --> 01:31:49,320
Speaker 1: a lot of them. Yea. And who we got alright,

1779
01:31:49,640 --> 01:31:57,680
Speaker 1: Agalore Mac Time Montgomery, who's eleven eleven? Is Parker? Well

1780
01:31:57,720 --> 01:32:03,160
Speaker 1: that's Parker. Okay. I feel like my mic is going

1781
01:32:03,200 --> 01:32:05,280
Speaker 1: in and all I kind of don't feel like that

1782
01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:07,800
Speaker 1: ball was intended for him. That was not really You see,

1783
01:32:07,840 --> 01:32:10,120
Speaker 1: Time Montgomery's got his hands out like as if to say,

1784
01:32:10,200 --> 01:32:13,639
Speaker 1: what will happen? I was mine? But JJ Taylor ended

1785
01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:16,160
Speaker 1: up catching it and coming up with a big play.

1786
01:32:16,240 --> 01:32:20,800
Speaker 1: But there were two guys very similarly situated in that route,

1787
01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:25,280
Speaker 1: in Montgomery and Taylor. Judging on the body language of Montgomery,

1788
01:32:25,280 --> 01:32:27,360
Speaker 1: I think Montgomery made a mistake. I don't think he

1789
01:32:27,400 --> 01:32:29,280
Speaker 1: was supposed to be. Patricia was talking to him and

1790
01:32:29,360 --> 01:32:31,160
Speaker 1: Joe Judge was talking to the other guy, so they

1791
01:32:31,200 --> 01:32:32,880
Speaker 1: both told him they got up. You see, this is

1792
01:32:32,920 --> 01:32:35,960
Speaker 1: what's going to happen. You can't you can't analyze because

1793
01:32:35,960 --> 01:32:37,880
Speaker 1: he takes his ball and goes home. Just like the email,

1794
01:32:37,880 --> 01:32:40,120
Speaker 1: Will just said, let me ask you a question. Who

1795
01:32:40,160 --> 01:32:44,360
Speaker 1: will have more production Brandon Bolden last year or Time

1796
01:32:44,400 --> 01:32:49,080
Speaker 1: Montgomery this year? Brandon Bolden, Okay, that's a good question.

1797
01:32:50,120 --> 01:32:52,960
Speaker 1: I think that you know, again goes back to how

1798
01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:57,840
Speaker 1: does it all shake out? Mac? Oh, beautiful past, beautiful,

1799
01:32:58,600 --> 01:33:03,439
Speaker 1: beautiful pass. That's what we need. John Us Smith John Smith.

1800
01:33:03,560 --> 01:33:07,760
Speaker 1: John Smith was double covered h heading towards the sideline

1801
01:33:07,800 --> 01:33:11,000
Speaker 1: and Mac threw it over both defenders right to the

1802
01:33:11,120 --> 01:33:14,000
Speaker 1: outside where only Smith could come up with it, and

1803
01:33:14,080 --> 01:33:16,960
Speaker 1: Smith came up with it. Uh, just just really nice

1804
01:33:17,000 --> 01:33:20,519
Speaker 1: and both ends there. Yeah, not exactly one of those

1805
01:33:20,560 --> 01:33:24,320
Speaker 1: seam throws that that was out by the outside, kind

1806
01:33:24,320 --> 01:33:26,679
Speaker 1: of in the zip code. That's why I made mention

1807
01:33:26,760 --> 01:33:28,960
Speaker 1: of the previous play to Taylor, which was down the scene.

1808
01:33:29,000 --> 01:33:32,280
Speaker 1: But I'm not sure that was all executed properly. I

1809
01:33:32,400 --> 01:33:34,600
Speaker 1: was a little on the ball. I'll say that it

1810
01:33:34,680 --> 01:33:36,320
Speaker 1: was a little bit like that play against the Brown's

1811
01:33:36,360 --> 01:33:38,680
Speaker 1: last year to Hunter. All right, Zappy's in. I guess yes,

1812
01:33:38,880 --> 01:33:40,880
Speaker 1: just yes, Mike, I'm gonna I want to see ZAPPI

1813
01:33:41,120 --> 01:33:44,840
Speaker 1: are you happy with and press with Zappy here? I

1814
01:33:44,880 --> 01:33:46,840
Speaker 1: don't know false started left to take a Lappie. I

1815
01:33:46,880 --> 01:33:49,360
Speaker 1: don't want to fall into any Trappie. But I like

1816
01:33:49,560 --> 01:33:57,360
Speaker 1: Zappy on the mark over the middle. Yeah. Yeah, you'll

1817
01:33:57,400 --> 01:34:00,880
Speaker 1: be hearing about that connection a lot this year. Zappy

1818
01:34:00,960 --> 01:34:03,960
Speaker 1: to Thornton. I mean, if you're if you're looking for accuracy,

1819
01:34:04,439 --> 01:34:07,519
Speaker 1: you saw it right there, right, I mean it looked,

1820
01:34:07,680 --> 01:34:10,280
Speaker 1: it looked on time. I mean it was good in stride,

1821
01:34:10,439 --> 01:34:13,720
Speaker 1: it was good. It's a good throw. No, it was

1822
01:34:13,760 --> 01:34:15,760
Speaker 1: a good throw. I just like, I'm laughing at how

1823
01:34:15,800 --> 01:34:18,640
Speaker 1: excited you can't. I just you know, the bar is

1824
01:34:18,720 --> 01:34:21,280
Speaker 1: with the rookies. You just don't want to see the no, no,

1825
01:34:22,120 --> 01:34:24,640
Speaker 1: yeah no, it's not like last year where Mac was

1826
01:34:24,720 --> 01:34:26,519
Speaker 1: throw a ball and yeah I would catch it, and

1827
01:34:26,760 --> 01:34:28,920
Speaker 1: you too would act like pulling the ball down on

1828
01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:31,559
Speaker 1: seven and seven in shorts. You know that's not good. Yeah,

1829
01:34:31,560 --> 01:34:33,479
Speaker 1: you're not looking for that now. But if the coverage

1830
01:34:33,560 --> 01:34:35,559
Speaker 1: is there, The coverage is there, if it's in time,

1831
01:34:35,600 --> 01:34:37,720
Speaker 1: and he seems like he's going through it, yeah, you know,

1832
01:34:37,920 --> 01:34:40,760
Speaker 1: no one where to go with it? One too, man,

1833
01:34:41,320 --> 01:34:44,600
Speaker 1: We'll check down and love it. He does have a

1834
01:34:44,640 --> 01:34:48,240
Speaker 1: better rom than Mac. You're right, I'm dead serious. I

1835
01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:50,240
Speaker 1: think he throws a good ball. He does, but he's

1836
01:34:50,280 --> 01:34:54,240
Speaker 1: too small, Yeah, thick from the waist end. Yeah, he's

1837
01:34:54,280 --> 01:34:57,640
Speaker 1: a well no, but you want me to give you

1838
01:34:57,720 --> 01:35:01,559
Speaker 1: a minute, TI. He doesn't have that quarterback lower half

1839
01:35:01,840 --> 01:35:05,680
Speaker 1: you know, right, it looks like, you know, could be

1840
01:35:05,760 --> 01:35:15,679
Speaker 1: a wrestler or something. Yeah, rassle, all right, what's Bill doing?

1841
01:35:18,800 --> 01:35:20,519
Speaker 1: All right? So now we're moving on here with the

1842
01:35:20,600 --> 01:35:22,880
Speaker 1: offense right now. Yeah, we got everybody. It seems like

1843
01:35:23,000 --> 01:35:26,880
Speaker 1: this is uh building to a crescendo, perhaps talking to

1844
01:35:26,960 --> 01:35:31,559
Speaker 1: Troy Brown, who is still jacked as hell. I know, well, yeah,

1845
01:35:31,680 --> 01:35:34,760
Speaker 1: he just beat the crap out of Deuce. Yeah. We

1846
01:35:34,840 --> 01:35:37,040
Speaker 1: had a tough loss this weekend, the Troy Brown's team.

1847
01:35:37,160 --> 01:35:40,799
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, fittingly, we gave up to kickoff return touchdown,

1848
01:35:40,920 --> 01:35:42,960
Speaker 1: so I you know, if you're gonna lose to Troy Brown,

1849
01:35:43,600 --> 01:35:46,240
Speaker 1: special teams played a big role. But uh, he was

1850
01:35:46,320 --> 01:35:48,960
Speaker 1: complimentary my son Campbell's quarterback play. So that was all.

1851
01:35:49,280 --> 01:35:50,960
Speaker 1: That was all we needed to hear in a minute. Now,

1852
01:35:51,040 --> 01:35:53,000
Speaker 1: you didn't tell me all about this. Yeah, so this

1853
01:35:53,160 --> 01:35:57,920
Speaker 1: is flag football. Ye, Troy Brown's son. Your son was

1854
01:35:57,960 --> 01:36:00,920
Speaker 1: the opposing quarterback. So the funny part is, so you know, Troy,

1855
01:36:01,200 --> 01:36:03,200
Speaker 1: we beaaten his team a couple of times. He hasn't.

1856
01:36:03,200 --> 01:36:05,360
Speaker 1: I think he's been there maybe once, but he was

1857
01:36:05,800 --> 01:36:08,080
Speaker 1: diagram in plays up and you know, I just let

1858
01:36:08,120 --> 01:36:10,600
Speaker 1: Campbell run it. I'm like yeah, yeah, So it was.

1859
01:36:11,120 --> 01:36:13,000
Speaker 1: It was a good game. The only time. The only

1860
01:36:13,040 --> 01:36:16,360
Speaker 1: reason we kind of stuck arect because Comble was hitting

1861
01:36:16,439 --> 01:36:18,880
Speaker 1: some deep passes with his h with his own so

1862
01:36:19,040 --> 01:36:21,120
Speaker 1: that that caught Troy's notice. But he was great. He

1863
01:36:21,280 --> 01:36:25,200
Speaker 1: talked to all the family afterwards signed a bunch of Yeah,

1864
01:36:25,400 --> 01:36:27,720
Speaker 1: Mike is going in and out. Yeah, just check your

1865
01:36:27,720 --> 01:36:30,519
Speaker 1: connection there. Sure, Yeah, it's been kind of happening a

1866
01:36:30,600 --> 01:36:32,479
Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, So it was a good day. It

1867
01:36:32,560 --> 01:36:34,120
Speaker 1: was a good day, even though even though we lost,

1868
01:36:34,120 --> 01:36:39,320
Speaker 1: they ended up taking the championship game after he was

1869
01:36:39,360 --> 01:36:41,200
Speaker 1: given out, although his son took a little bit of

1870
01:36:41,240 --> 01:36:44,280
Speaker 1: a collided on a play and went down for a

1871
01:36:44,320 --> 01:36:47,120
Speaker 1: little bit. I think he was okay though, concussion. We're

1872
01:36:47,120 --> 01:36:48,559
Speaker 1: a little worried about it for a second, a little

1873
01:36:48,560 --> 01:36:53,799
Speaker 1: worry about it. Yeah, all right, actual eleven on eleven

1874
01:36:53,920 --> 01:36:56,719
Speaker 1: coming back toward us here, Mac taking the shotgun snap.

1875
01:36:58,360 --> 01:37:01,280
Speaker 1: Trey nixons right now. We always talk about, you know,

1876
01:37:01,600 --> 01:37:05,280
Speaker 1: guys that you know who jumps in when there's someone missing.

1877
01:37:05,360 --> 01:37:07,680
Speaker 1: Now there's no born today, and Nixon's gotten a lot

1878
01:37:07,760 --> 01:37:10,040
Speaker 1: of a lot of work, so you're looking for things

1879
01:37:10,120 --> 01:37:12,720
Speaker 1: that you can take away, fred Yep. Trey Nixon, Ye,

1880
01:37:13,000 --> 01:37:15,040
Speaker 1: you know, got a lot of work. And you know,

1881
01:37:15,240 --> 01:37:17,200
Speaker 1: I haven't seen him do anything that I think would

1882
01:37:17,880 --> 01:37:19,800
Speaker 1: lead the coaches to say he wasn't ready for that,

1883
01:37:20,080 --> 01:37:23,200
Speaker 1: you know, added opportunity. Yep, he's been he's been active,

1884
01:37:23,240 --> 01:37:24,880
Speaker 1: he's been involved and he's caught the ball when it's

1885
01:37:24,920 --> 01:37:31,640
Speaker 1: thrown his way. And and you mentioned Blitzo on the

1886
01:37:31,720 --> 01:37:35,920
Speaker 1: other side, yep, deuce yep. Although this is a lot

1887
01:37:36,000 --> 01:37:44,320
Speaker 1: of a lot of secondary players now, but on defense, yeah,

1888
01:37:44,640 --> 01:37:47,559
Speaker 1: there's definitely some confusion. On offense. This is the second

1889
01:37:47,600 --> 01:37:50,040
Speaker 1: time in three plays that it looks like they did

1890
01:37:50,080 --> 01:37:53,240
Speaker 1: not come out in the right formation. But they got

1891
01:37:53,320 --> 01:37:55,920
Speaker 1: it straightened out. They got the pass off and another

1892
01:37:56,120 --> 01:38:00,240
Speaker 1: catch for Trey Nixon outside the number. So you're saying

1893
01:38:00,320 --> 01:38:04,439
Speaker 1: these would be Kendrick Borne. I am not telling you

1894
01:38:04,600 --> 01:38:07,320
Speaker 1: that my life would depend on it. But Kendrick Bourne's

1895
01:38:07,400 --> 01:38:11,639
Speaker 1: not here, and suddenly Trey Nixon's out there with DeVante Parker,

1896
01:38:11,880 --> 01:38:15,040
Speaker 1: and you know, guys like that, you know, opportunity knocks,

1897
01:38:15,600 --> 01:38:18,720
Speaker 1: Opportunity knocks. I mean, it is one of the things

1898
01:38:18,800 --> 01:38:21,960
Speaker 1: I take from this is just like I said, you

1899
01:38:22,040 --> 01:38:23,920
Speaker 1: can tell the guys that are in the mix getting

1900
01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:25,680
Speaker 1: a look with the starters and guys who are just

1901
01:38:25,840 --> 01:38:28,960
Speaker 1: kind of learning, you know, like right now there's a

1902
01:38:29,000 --> 01:38:31,760
Speaker 1: whole offensive line conversation going and off gone off to

1903
01:38:31,840 --> 01:38:33,880
Speaker 1: the side, and a defensive line. I mean, those guys

1904
01:38:33,920 --> 01:38:37,960
Speaker 1: are working on something totally different right now. Now, interestingly,

1905
01:38:38,680 --> 01:38:42,360
Speaker 1: Patricia is talking into some type of walkie talkie. So

1906
01:38:42,560 --> 01:38:45,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if that is actually into you know,

1907
01:38:45,479 --> 01:38:49,240
Speaker 1: Mac Jones's helmet, but he's talking into a walkie small

1908
01:38:49,280 --> 01:38:53,360
Speaker 1: walkie talkie in his hand. Joe Judge is not. I

1909
01:38:53,439 --> 01:38:55,840
Speaker 1: think that's a good observation, friend, Joe Judge is not.

1910
01:38:57,040 --> 01:39:00,599
Speaker 1: So yeah, they're standing together behind Mac right now, kind

1911
01:39:00,600 --> 01:39:05,800
Speaker 1: of overseeing it. There's another one that that could have

1912
01:39:05,880 --> 01:39:09,360
Speaker 1: been ugly with pads on. So Paul, if you if

1913
01:39:09,400 --> 01:39:13,040
Speaker 1: you know, it's like, okay, So Matricia's walking along and

1914
01:39:13,240 --> 01:39:16,960
Speaker 1: in his right hand, he's got a little black walkie talking.

1915
01:39:17,040 --> 01:39:20,960
Speaker 1: I can see something in his hand. Yeah. So now

1916
01:39:21,040 --> 01:39:26,400
Speaker 1: he's looking down and now he's talking into it. Yeah.

1917
01:39:26,439 --> 01:39:29,120
Speaker 1: I mean it could be as simple as he's relaying place. Yeah.

1918
01:39:29,560 --> 01:39:31,760
Speaker 1: And so if he is in fact going to be

1919
01:39:31,840 --> 01:39:34,479
Speaker 1: the play caller. I like what they're doing because it

1920
01:39:34,720 --> 01:39:38,960
Speaker 1: gets Mac or all the quarterbacks used to hearing Patricia's

1921
01:39:39,040 --> 01:39:42,360
Speaker 1: voice in their helmet, and why not start doing that now?

1922
01:39:43,080 --> 01:39:46,559
Speaker 1: So all right, yeah, it does it does? It does?

1923
01:39:46,640 --> 01:39:48,800
Speaker 1: Sure look like it. And this was Hoyer. You could

1924
01:39:48,800 --> 01:39:51,120
Speaker 1: see Patricia talking to it, and then you sell Hoyer

1925
01:39:51,200 --> 01:39:54,640
Speaker 1: kind of relay the call. Everybody breaks the huddle. I

1926
01:39:54,760 --> 01:39:58,920
Speaker 1: buy it. It looked like that. It's exactly now. Now

1927
01:39:59,360 --> 01:40:02,240
Speaker 1: the thing is tomorrow and Thursday we'll be out here.

1928
01:40:02,640 --> 01:40:04,960
Speaker 1: We won't have a show tomorrow, but we will on Thursday,

1929
01:40:05,040 --> 01:40:08,160
Speaker 1: same as today. Let's see what he does tomorrow. Let's

1930
01:40:08,240 --> 01:40:10,800
Speaker 1: let's see if this is consistent. Right, right, that's three

1931
01:40:10,880 --> 01:40:14,479
Speaker 1: days we need. A small walkie talkie could fit in

1932
01:40:14,560 --> 01:40:19,920
Speaker 1: the palm of a hand, not be seen now. It

1933
01:40:19,960 --> 01:40:22,200
Speaker 1: could be a chocolate Eclaire too. I'm not you know,

1934
01:40:22,479 --> 01:40:25,960
Speaker 1: you see, I'm not gonna lie those those kinds of

1935
01:40:26,800 --> 01:40:29,000
Speaker 1: smart ass comments were coming to my mind, but I

1936
01:40:29,120 --> 01:40:32,320
Speaker 1: left him out. You can't do it. There we go

1937
01:40:33,640 --> 01:40:37,400
Speaker 1: just four to me, a lot of walkie talkies and

1938
01:40:37,400 --> 01:40:39,840
Speaker 1: Stranger Things too, So I'm I'm very on brand. This

1939
01:40:39,920 --> 01:40:43,040
Speaker 1: week I saw the first two episodes. I'll say the

1940
01:40:43,120 --> 01:40:44,960
Speaker 1: fourth episode of this season was one of the best

1941
01:40:45,080 --> 01:40:48,120
Speaker 1: episodes of Stranger Things that really I've ever seen. How many?

1942
01:40:48,360 --> 01:40:51,200
Speaker 1: I know, ya Majie is back there saying six, but

1943
01:40:51,520 --> 01:40:53,519
Speaker 1: they released seven, and then I think there's a few

1944
01:40:53,560 --> 01:40:57,519
Speaker 1: more coming in first month, but uh, will will cut

1945
01:40:57,560 --> 01:40:59,320
Speaker 1: the rest of the season. And he came out he

1946
01:40:59,400 --> 01:41:01,640
Speaker 1: was gushing with TJ because TJ had already seen it.

1947
01:41:01,960 --> 01:41:04,719
Speaker 1: He goes, now, I know what you're talking about. Yeah, yeah,

1948
01:41:04,800 --> 01:41:06,880
Speaker 1: it's uh and I like the last two seasons, but

1949
01:41:08,400 --> 01:41:13,280
Speaker 1: this one's just intense. It's different. Who's fifty two on offense?

1950
01:41:13,600 --> 01:41:18,439
Speaker 1: No defense? Defense? Is? Uh? That's that's Marcus Jones. Huh

1951
01:41:18,600 --> 01:41:23,519
Speaker 1: is there a big fifty two out there? Oh wait,

1952
01:41:23,640 --> 01:41:26,559
Speaker 1: that looks like Harvey LONGI yeah, that's not yeah LONGI

1953
01:41:26,680 --> 01:41:29,840
Speaker 1: that's Long. Yeah yeah. Okay. So now mac Jones is

1954
01:41:30,240 --> 01:41:32,800
Speaker 1: right next to Patricia. They're going over some things. Long

1955
01:41:32,880 --> 01:41:35,040
Speaker 1: he just knocked down a pass, but he was much

1956
01:41:35,120 --> 01:41:37,840
Speaker 1: too big to be Yacus Jones. Plus, the last time

1957
01:41:37,840 --> 01:41:39,439
Speaker 1: I saw Marcus Jones he had a red shirt on.

1958
01:41:39,800 --> 01:41:43,240
Speaker 1: Seeing this speaks to why it's annoying, like trying to

1959
01:41:43,320 --> 01:41:45,120
Speaker 1: keep track of I mean, do you have like multiple

1960
01:41:45,200 --> 01:41:47,240
Speaker 1: guys with the same shirt on it? Like it's just

1961
01:41:50,200 --> 01:41:52,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it's meant to confuse us

1962
01:41:52,760 --> 01:41:57,439
Speaker 1: more than anything else. Oh, you're probably right paranoid and

1963
01:41:57,600 --> 01:42:00,120
Speaker 1: really James James James White, we haven't seen him do

1964
01:42:00,200 --> 01:42:03,960
Speaker 1: anything right, I mean just the drills at the beginning

1965
01:42:04,000 --> 01:42:08,000
Speaker 1: of practice him. That to me seems like a pup. Yeah,

1966
01:42:08,040 --> 01:42:11,040
Speaker 1: Harris back there now, Yeah, I would say Fred's probably

1967
01:42:11,120 --> 01:42:16,559
Speaker 1: right pup to start camp, all right, Mac back to pass,

1968
01:42:19,960 --> 01:42:23,040
Speaker 1: Oh tough pass. But Harris came up with it, had

1969
01:42:23,120 --> 01:42:26,360
Speaker 1: to turn his body around. Yeah that was that. That

1970
01:42:26,560 --> 01:42:31,519
Speaker 1: that live noise you heard was Deuced saying, yeah, that

1971
01:42:31,720 --> 01:42:34,559
Speaker 1: was that was Harris up to seem with mcgron on him,

1972
01:42:34,640 --> 01:42:37,160
Speaker 1: and uh, it seemed like a little bit underthrown by Max.

1973
01:42:37,280 --> 01:42:40,840
Speaker 1: So here's the thing with Mac that's his that if

1974
01:42:40,880 --> 01:42:43,439
Speaker 1: he had a weakness in a one area of the field,

1975
01:42:43,520 --> 01:42:46,000
Speaker 1: you would say it was down the middle, wouldn't you. Yeah, up,

1976
01:42:46,040 --> 01:42:50,680
Speaker 1: it seems for sure, which is uh, you know, it's

1977
01:42:50,720 --> 01:42:52,680
Speaker 1: unfortunate because you feel like you should be able to

1978
01:42:53,120 --> 01:42:55,200
Speaker 1: do some things with John H. Smith and Hunter Henry

1979
01:42:56,120 --> 01:42:58,320
Speaker 1: up up the seams and you know, stretched the field

1980
01:42:58,360 --> 01:43:00,799
Speaker 1: a little bit, and you know he had trouble locating

1981
01:43:00,840 --> 01:43:03,599
Speaker 1: the defense when he went up the scene. A lot

1982
01:43:03,680 --> 01:43:07,040
Speaker 1: of balls that were you know, almost intercepted and guys

1983
01:43:07,080 --> 01:43:09,360
Speaker 1: reading it and getting hands on it. So that's and

1984
01:43:09,479 --> 01:43:12,880
Speaker 1: mentally he's probably overthinking that. And it looked apparent on

1985
01:43:13,000 --> 01:43:15,080
Speaker 1: that pass where he just didn't put enough on it

1986
01:43:16,400 --> 01:43:22,479
Speaker 1: and he put it behind Harris, So I'd be working

1987
01:43:22,560 --> 01:43:26,080
Speaker 1: on that this soft season if I was him and

1988
01:43:26,280 --> 01:43:30,840
Speaker 1: he has to pull it down first time. I mean,

1989
01:43:30,920 --> 01:43:36,880
Speaker 1: that was tremendous pass protection too. Nothing, no one was

1990
01:43:36,960 --> 01:43:39,840
Speaker 1: it was, it was it. I mean they don't have

1991
01:43:40,000 --> 01:43:43,280
Speaker 1: pats on. I missed the snark on that one. No,

1992
01:43:43,360 --> 01:43:45,800
Speaker 1: the coverage obviously was good because he had to. Yeah,

1993
01:43:45,840 --> 01:43:47,560
Speaker 1: he had plenty of time to find somebody and he

1994
01:43:47,640 --> 01:43:51,000
Speaker 1: had to. You know, it's just another example everybody wants

1995
01:43:51,000 --> 01:43:54,280
Speaker 1: to pump up Cameron mcgron is, like, you know, he's

1996
01:43:54,280 --> 01:43:57,639
Speaker 1: out here now with kind of the B level book groups.

1997
01:43:57,720 --> 01:43:59,960
Speaker 1: You know, he's got a ways to go, singletary if

1998
01:44:00,160 --> 01:44:02,720
Speaker 1: you think he's gonna be now whatever happened on that

1999
01:44:02,840 --> 01:44:06,840
Speaker 1: last play, Jones and Patricia were laughing about it, so

2000
01:44:09,120 --> 01:44:13,599
Speaker 1: I thought you said run, oh okay, he said, Hans

2001
01:44:13,680 --> 01:44:17,080
Speaker 1: he forgot over. He didn't say over more. Let's walk

2002
01:44:17,120 --> 01:44:28,120
Speaker 1: you talking wow at bad check with me, Stephen sending

2003
01:44:28,120 --> 01:44:38,080
Speaker 1: the back. I'll see, I'll see. I wonder there's a

2004
01:44:38,120 --> 01:44:40,759
Speaker 1: lot of passes that guys are catching as they're spinning around,

2005
01:44:40,960 --> 01:44:43,519
Speaker 1: and a lot of times that's by design. So I

2006
01:44:43,520 --> 01:44:46,679
Speaker 1: don't want to say that he's up, yes, like he's

2007
01:44:46,720 --> 01:44:49,840
Speaker 1: not leading him into contact. So I don't know if

2008
01:44:49,880 --> 01:44:52,000
Speaker 1: that is a past that's behind him, or if that's

2009
01:44:52,040 --> 01:44:54,160
Speaker 1: a past design to keep him out of harm's way.

2010
01:44:55,880 --> 01:44:57,960
Speaker 1: But I have noticed that. You know, we talked about

2011
01:44:58,000 --> 01:45:01,880
Speaker 1: the one with Harris Stephen, you know behind mcgrown own. Yeah,

2012
01:45:01,960 --> 01:45:04,599
Speaker 1: you know, it might be anticipating a safety coming over

2013
01:45:04,680 --> 01:45:06,519
Speaker 1: the top there and you're trying to you know, protect

2014
01:45:06,600 --> 01:45:14,640
Speaker 1: your your receiver. Probably winding down here. I'm gonna head

2015
01:45:14,640 --> 01:45:17,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna head down a little early to go get

2016
01:45:17,360 --> 01:45:20,679
Speaker 1: some of these interviews that will be going on immediately

2017
01:45:20,720 --> 01:45:27,800
Speaker 1: following practice. Who's sixty four blue? Sixty four Blue? Uh, yeah,

2018
01:45:27,880 --> 01:45:35,040
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Mitchell. He's he's an undrafted rookie. Interesting combination and

2019
01:45:35,520 --> 01:45:39,880
Speaker 1: he's got the short short game pants cut off and

2020
01:45:40,000 --> 01:45:43,519
Speaker 1: knees socks. He looks uh, he really stands out there

2021
01:45:43,680 --> 01:45:50,120
Speaker 1: for his uh clothing selection. Yeah. I mean, you know

2022
01:45:50,120 --> 01:45:52,080
Speaker 1: we talk about they didn't draft any edge guys. I mean,

2023
01:45:52,120 --> 01:45:55,840
Speaker 1: he's he's somebody that maybe maybe could find himself, you

2024
01:45:55,880 --> 01:45:58,000
Speaker 1: don't on the practice squad, just the least to provide

2025
01:45:58,040 --> 01:46:00,120
Speaker 1: some depth. Maybe I think there's an opportunity maybe for

2026
01:46:00,240 --> 01:46:04,080
Speaker 1: him oh, and now we seem like we're getting white

2027
01:46:04,120 --> 01:46:06,000
Speaker 1: on one sideline and blue on the other sideline. So

2028
01:46:08,040 --> 01:46:10,360
Speaker 1: I wish wait for the telltale base to come in

2029
01:46:10,439 --> 01:46:11,960
Speaker 1: and they start playing the music, and then you know,

2030
01:46:12,000 --> 01:46:13,680
Speaker 1: all right, now we're actually gonna do something. So now

2031
01:46:13,760 --> 01:46:17,320
Speaker 1: it's situational. Now it's like, okay, first and ten, Now

2032
01:46:17,400 --> 01:46:20,400
Speaker 1: they're gonna actually, you know, do the real in game

2033
01:46:20,520 --> 01:46:26,880
Speaker 1: type of stuff, substitutions the whole thing. But yeah, Trey

2034
01:46:26,960 --> 01:46:29,960
Speaker 1: Nixon and this uh up with this top group right now.

2035
01:46:33,400 --> 01:46:38,439
Speaker 1: But it's a lot of mixing and matching Harris in

2036
01:46:38,479 --> 01:46:45,400
Speaker 1: the backfield. Yeah, and Mac has to pull it down

2037
01:46:45,439 --> 01:46:49,559
Speaker 1: again speed wow, look at the speed as lamar as

2038
01:46:49,760 --> 01:46:53,600
Speaker 1: Dietrich wise runs them down on the flatfay long legs. Uh.

2039
01:46:53,680 --> 01:46:56,360
Speaker 1: And just in full disclosure, I do not want Mac

2040
01:46:56,439 --> 01:46:59,479
Speaker 1: Jones trying to like burst to the sideline in mini camp.

2041
01:47:00,120 --> 01:47:02,759
Speaker 1: That's fine with me right there. What just happened. Wouldn't

2042
01:47:02,760 --> 01:47:05,360
Speaker 1: you prefer to getting a nagging like hamstring injury. He

2043
01:47:05,439 --> 01:47:07,639
Speaker 1: needs to learn to throw the football down and discussed.

2044
01:47:07,840 --> 01:47:09,479
Speaker 1: So then I all think it wasn't you know, it

2045
01:47:09,640 --> 01:47:12,320
Speaker 1: was all they messed up. They messed up, wasn't they

2046
01:47:12,320 --> 01:47:15,960
Speaker 1: don't do it right. Come on, it's unbelievable. You see

2047
01:47:16,040 --> 01:47:19,120
Speaker 1: him in this underwear yesterday, the guy who brought Brady,

2048
01:47:19,240 --> 01:47:21,600
Speaker 1: the guy who brought you so much joy you do

2049
01:47:21,760 --> 01:47:24,760
Speaker 1: nothing but have disdain for You're thinking about that kiss again, Fred.

2050
01:47:24,840 --> 01:47:29,720
Speaker 1: I just wonder if it's real, right or a prosthetic?

2051
01:47:30,760 --> 01:47:36,600
Speaker 1: Was it was something inflated? Maybe? Um, I don't know,

2052
01:47:36,800 --> 01:47:45,320
Speaker 1: maybe like Jake steele h a little confusion. I have

2053
01:47:45,479 --> 01:47:50,080
Speaker 1: noticed that a little bit offensively, whether they're coming out.

2054
01:47:50,479 --> 01:47:52,640
Speaker 1: You know, you see a receiver maybe start out to

2055
01:47:52,760 --> 01:47:56,320
Speaker 1: the right and then immediately, like you know, circle back

2056
01:47:56,360 --> 01:47:58,519
Speaker 1: and get to the left. You got yourself a John

2057
01:47:58,520 --> 01:48:01,200
Speaker 1: w lap going on right now. So that might have

2058
01:48:01,280 --> 01:48:04,800
Speaker 1: been that might have been one of the problems. Yep,

2059
01:48:05,040 --> 01:48:08,680
Speaker 1: Patricia talking into that wakie talkie so that he is

2060
01:48:08,800 --> 01:48:12,320
Speaker 1: calling the plays. Belichick in the backfield of the offense.

2061
01:48:12,439 --> 01:48:15,519
Speaker 1: Fred Kersh is reporting or I'm a violent switch on

2062
01:48:15,600 --> 01:48:19,000
Speaker 1: the defensive line. Normally reserve for first and goal from

2063
01:48:19,000 --> 01:48:23,679
Speaker 1: the inside. The one does not work. However, Mac under

2064
01:48:23,760 --> 01:48:32,280
Speaker 1: center handoff Harris and he couldn't gone. He's gone. He

2065
01:48:32,320 --> 01:48:37,960
Speaker 1: would have been tackled for two yards. Uh yeah, come on,

2066
01:48:38,080 --> 01:48:40,160
Speaker 1: can we throw the ball a little bit here, we'll

2067
01:48:40,240 --> 01:48:41,880
Speaker 1: wrap it up. Any of these run plays, call it

2068
01:48:41,960 --> 01:48:47,120
Speaker 1: a day. Yeah, I'm about ready anyway, setting up there. Yeah,

2069
01:48:47,120 --> 01:48:49,599
Speaker 1: I think i'm gonna I'm gonna head after this play. Yeah,

2070
01:48:49,760 --> 01:48:52,519
Speaker 1: why didn't you take off, Paul and I'll finish it.

2071
01:48:54,960 --> 01:48:59,840
Speaker 1: We'll go until they do field goals. If they do

2072
01:49:00,040 --> 01:49:02,680
Speaker 1: those today, they have a kicker out there they do,

2073
01:49:02,920 --> 01:49:06,320
Speaker 1: My guess is they they've done those in another field.

2074
01:49:06,560 --> 01:49:10,920
Speaker 1: Oh okay, but you just ruined my my little buzz here.

2075
01:49:10,920 --> 01:49:16,599
Speaker 1: I was thinking, there's almost time to eat. I will

2076
01:49:16,640 --> 01:49:20,320
Speaker 1: there be today given? I hope. So I need some

2077
01:49:20,400 --> 01:49:26,519
Speaker 1: Papa ginos. Oh Max sack and on that note, Matthew

2078
01:49:26,840 --> 01:49:35,040
Speaker 1: jude On would be sack in Christian ball defense celebrating Wow,

2079
01:49:35,760 --> 01:49:38,160
Speaker 1: yeah much. This was the case last year at this time.

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01:49:38,360 --> 01:49:40,479
Speaker 1: It's really unfair for the offensive mine to try to

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01:49:41,320 --> 01:49:45,439
Speaker 1: create some time for the quarterback to throw. Well, there

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01:49:45,479 --> 01:49:48,559
Speaker 1: should be at least three Mississippi. Don't you think they

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01:49:48,600 --> 01:49:51,960
Speaker 1: should do something? Because I do think plays break down

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01:49:52,080 --> 01:50:01,200
Speaker 1: quicker than normal when there's no pads on. Patriots quickly

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01:50:01,240 --> 01:50:03,120
Speaker 1: out of the huddle with Brian Hoyer. He is a coach,

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01:50:03,200 --> 01:50:07,839
Speaker 1: after all, hands to Stevenson and he gone. He insists,

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01:50:07,920 --> 01:50:10,400
Speaker 1: I'm wearing that little hood under his jersey. I don't

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01:50:10,720 --> 01:50:16,439
Speaker 1: care for that. Doesn't care for it all right, So

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01:50:16,600 --> 01:50:19,040
Speaker 1: Deuce has gone down. They have just so let the

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01:50:19,160 --> 01:50:22,200
Speaker 1: listeners know. They have three backdrops set set up down

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Speaker 1: in the far end zone and that's where some players

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01:50:25,600 --> 01:50:29,080
Speaker 1: will be made available today. I know josh Ucha is

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01:50:29,120 --> 01:50:32,120
Speaker 1: one of them that is expected to be made available.

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01:50:33,280 --> 01:50:39,680
Speaker 1: Uh give you Damian Harris, Kyle Dugger, Michael when you,

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01:50:39,920 --> 01:50:44,000
Speaker 1: Ronnie Perkins, Romandre Stevenson, and josh Uch some of the

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Speaker 1: players that are anticipated to speak. Okay, so we'll have

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01:50:52,600 --> 01:50:55,920
Speaker 1: that for you on Patriots dot Com later today. Turn

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01:50:56,000 --> 01:50:59,880
Speaker 1: those around. Oh boy, are too high. I'm gonna get

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01:51:00,000 --> 01:51:04,920
Speaker 1: somebody hurt. Would that that pass? It's about a twenty

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01:51:05,120 --> 01:51:08,280
Speaker 1: twenty five yard pass that Hoyer just kind of rocketed

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01:51:08,360 --> 01:51:11,320
Speaker 1: over whoever the receiver was. I couldn't make that out,

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01:51:11,439 --> 01:51:25,320
Speaker 1: but not an accurate ball. The warrior still in there,

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01:51:31,240 --> 01:51:40,479
Speaker 1: Savante Parker out there with Aghalore. Not the starting offensive

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01:51:40,520 --> 01:51:46,960
Speaker 1: line out there, I can tell you that much. Yeah,

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01:51:47,000 --> 01:51:49,160
Speaker 1: this is I think is the two. I think this

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01:51:49,280 --> 01:51:52,719
Speaker 1: is the two offensive Stevenson in the backfield Jessa Durant

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01:51:55,080 --> 01:51:59,200
Speaker 1: will Sherman nice played by Jalen Mills. Yeah, although I

2108
01:51:59,240 --> 01:52:02,599
Speaker 1: don't think the ball got there in time, but yep,

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01:52:02,760 --> 01:52:04,800
Speaker 1: Jaylen Mills got a hand in there and knocked it away.

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01:52:09,520 --> 01:52:12,679
Speaker 1: Was that Smith? That was the intended receipt? Oh, Harry,

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01:52:12,840 --> 01:52:26,439
Speaker 1: Oh all right? Mac Jones now back in the huddle,

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01:52:26,560 --> 01:52:34,439
Speaker 1: not getting zappy skipping over zappy here. I don't like it. Yeah.

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01:52:34,560 --> 01:52:37,920
Speaker 1: The the I would say the defensive backs as a

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01:52:38,360 --> 01:52:42,599
Speaker 1: in general have been pretty scrappy and competitive. Yeah. Um,

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01:52:42,880 --> 01:52:45,479
Speaker 1: they've given up some plays, but they've made some too, Um,

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01:52:45,600 --> 01:52:48,679
Speaker 1: like the one you just mentioned with Uh with Mills,

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01:52:54,080 --> 01:52:58,000
Speaker 1: it's been I think it's been pretty competitive. There's Smith,

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01:52:59,600 --> 01:53:01,519
Speaker 1: mat it was. By the way, he has a last

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01:53:01,600 --> 01:53:07,040
Speaker 1: sleeve on his right calf, yeah, i'd say, which is

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01:53:07,320 --> 01:53:13,400
Speaker 1: uh notable because he hasn't had anything on, yeah, in

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01:53:13,520 --> 01:53:17,479
Speaker 1: the times that we've been out here. Yeah. I remember

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01:53:17,520 --> 01:53:19,760
Speaker 1: he did have the knee injury last year, right, and

2123
01:53:19,840 --> 01:53:21,760
Speaker 1: he had a brace on every day and he hasn't

2124
01:53:21,800 --> 01:53:24,760
Speaker 1: had a brace on. But this is a lower calf. Now.

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01:53:24,800 --> 01:53:27,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's just like he has it down,

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01:53:27,320 --> 01:53:29,479
Speaker 1: or if it's just a sleeve on the calf. Yeah right,

2127
01:53:29,560 --> 01:53:31,559
Speaker 1: it could be just he pulled it down. Who knows,

2128
01:53:32,360 --> 01:53:34,400
Speaker 1: but it looks like it's just on his calf. Yeah.

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01:53:38,040 --> 01:53:46,479
Speaker 1: How long are we going here? Fred? Jeez? Yeah, Oh

2130
01:53:46,960 --> 01:53:50,120
Speaker 1: that's a bad throat. Well that's a bad something, you know.

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01:53:50,439 --> 01:53:52,320
Speaker 1: Like I said, I hesitate to say bad throw. Now,

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01:53:52,400 --> 01:53:54,960
Speaker 1: judging by max body language, I'm going to say it

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01:53:55,000 --> 01:53:58,640
Speaker 1: was a bad Aglo was wide open, right, and the

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01:53:58,720 --> 01:54:03,160
Speaker 1: throw was it fifteen? Who's fifteen? Okay? Yeah, I couldn't

2135
01:54:03,160 --> 01:54:06,400
Speaker 1: tell if it was nineteen or fifteen. He's wide open

2136
01:54:06,479 --> 01:54:12,840
Speaker 1: and the past was loaded the outside ball four. Yeah.

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01:54:13,080 --> 01:54:15,800
Speaker 1: Now Max seemed to be pretty upset with himself, so

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01:54:15,960 --> 01:54:19,840
Speaker 1: I think he probably, yeah, misfired a little bit. Yeah,

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01:54:19,880 --> 01:54:31,400
Speaker 1: he pulled that. See what they do in this play?

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01:54:32,280 --> 01:54:35,320
Speaker 1: J J Taylor in the backfields that forty two? Yeah yeah, yeah,

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01:54:41,040 --> 01:54:44,120
Speaker 1: Well he pulls it down again and runs and look

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01:54:44,160 --> 01:54:47,000
Speaker 1: at the look at the improvisational skills, ends up hitting

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01:54:47,080 --> 01:54:50,600
Speaker 1: JJ Taylor. But that was not the intended play or receiver.

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01:54:50,800 --> 01:54:52,760
Speaker 1: But he did, you know, he pumped, faked, pulled it

2145
01:54:52,840 --> 01:54:56,200
Speaker 1: down and quickly found an outlet. It wasn't you know, Yeah,

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01:54:57,000 --> 01:55:04,000
Speaker 1: it wasn't a terrible play, all right, now we get

2147
01:55:04,040 --> 01:55:08,600
Speaker 1: to see some Zappi. Yeah. I hope he doesn't screw

2148
01:55:08,720 --> 01:55:11,200
Speaker 1: up and have to take a lappy good Jack Jackie

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01:55:11,240 --> 01:55:18,080
Speaker 1: for Zappi. Yeah, all pumped in Jack, don't play crappy,

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01:55:18,760 --> 01:55:30,960
Speaker 1: my boy. All right, I'm just center Harris in the

2151
01:55:31,000 --> 01:55:39,120
Speaker 1: backfield the rook snop. That's a run play. Do that

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01:55:39,200 --> 01:55:42,000
Speaker 1: on your own time, I agree, Fred right, hey SRP,

2153
01:55:42,880 --> 01:55:45,400
Speaker 1: all right, another stupid running player. You're gonna have Zappi

2154
01:55:45,480 --> 01:55:56,480
Speaker 1: out there. You gotta throw the ball here Zappi. Yeah, oh,

2155
01:55:56,760 --> 01:56:09,040
Speaker 1: let's see. Yeah, this is an extended practice. Media has

2156
01:56:09,160 --> 01:56:12,480
Speaker 1: moved over to the pods to get in position for

2157
01:56:13,400 --> 01:56:15,680
Speaker 1: or some of the media, I should say, not all.

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01:56:18,160 --> 01:56:23,560
Speaker 1: Probably camera guys are over getting in position. Is that

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01:56:23,640 --> 01:56:31,880
Speaker 1: be gonna throw here? Bang shoots one to Christian Wilkerson underneath. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I would agree with Mike's assessment overall. Like,

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01:56:35,320 --> 01:56:37,880
Speaker 1: the only thing I would say is, I really haven't

2162
01:56:37,880 --> 01:56:41,280
Speaker 1: seen quarterbacks not look to have the ability to do

2163
01:56:41,400 --> 01:56:43,760
Speaker 1: this right, you know in my time. You know, if

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01:56:43,800 --> 01:56:46,040
Speaker 1: you can't do that, you gotta go like and I'm

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01:56:46,040 --> 01:56:47,880
Speaker 1: not even talking about from a physical I'm talking about

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01:56:47,920 --> 01:56:50,160
Speaker 1: the mental. Like you know, you look like you have

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01:56:50,240 --> 01:56:52,240
Speaker 1: an idea of what the offense is supposed to be.

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01:56:52,720 --> 01:56:54,520
Speaker 1: You're calling the plays, you're getting out of the huddle,

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01:56:54,560 --> 01:56:58,240
Speaker 1: you're getting into whatever you're supposed to do. I don't

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Speaker 1: really recall too many times where I looked I said,

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01:57:00,280 --> 01:57:04,520
Speaker 1: this guy just doesn't know what he's doing, right, you know? Yep,

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01:57:08,280 --> 01:57:15,560
Speaker 1: zappy again this time and shotgun. It's going large to

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01:57:16,040 --> 01:57:18,840
Speaker 1: Harry off the mark a little bit too far to

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01:57:18,920 --> 01:57:21,800
Speaker 1: the outside. Yeah, no chance for Harry. But see if

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01:57:21,840 --> 01:57:25,880
Speaker 1: that's Parker, I think he has a chance. Yeah, because

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01:57:25,920 --> 01:57:27,560
Speaker 1: I think Parker makes a play on the ball and

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Speaker 1: Harry doesn't. Yeah, but it wasn't a good pass wiping

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Speaker 1: off some of the pollen I know was that Mills

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Speaker 1: and coverage? Oh god, I have no idea. Well, thanks right.

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Speaker 1: Not the best play by play guy in the business

2181
01:57:58,720 --> 01:58:05,080
Speaker 1: for not them mac back and at quarterback. This practice

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01:58:05,080 --> 01:58:12,760
Speaker 1: seemingly won't end. Yep. I think Bill might have indicated

2183
01:58:12,840 --> 01:58:22,240
Speaker 1: three more plays, but I'm not sure. But I think

2184
01:58:22,280 --> 01:58:25,960
Speaker 1: we did learn something here with the Patricia Waukie talkie thing.

2185
01:58:27,120 --> 01:58:31,480
Speaker 1: Lends a little credence to Jeff Howe's report that Patricia

2186
01:58:31,560 --> 01:58:34,240
Speaker 1: will be calling the plays at least today he did.

2187
01:58:36,040 --> 01:58:38,280
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens tomorrow will be I think the

2188
01:58:38,360 --> 01:58:41,760
Speaker 1: Waukeie talkie thing is definitely a takeaway. Be curious to

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01:58:41,800 --> 01:58:44,480
Speaker 1: see how many of the media people saw it. Minicamp

2190
01:58:44,600 --> 01:58:47,640
Speaker 1: continues tomorrow. We'll be out here, not with a show,

2191
01:58:47,760 --> 01:58:50,400
Speaker 1: but Paul and Mike Tomorrow will be out here and

2192
01:58:50,560 --> 01:58:56,640
Speaker 1: Paul will have his blobservations tomorrow after practice and then Thursday.

2193
01:58:57,240 --> 01:58:59,520
Speaker 1: Oh nice catch by Agawa. Oh when he dropped it,

2194
01:59:00,280 --> 01:59:04,200
Speaker 1: I got a fumble. Yeah, I do too, A little

2195
01:59:04,240 --> 01:59:06,560
Speaker 1: aggressive out there, That's what I said. I think it's

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01:59:06,600 --> 01:59:09,440
Speaker 1: been pretty competitive, especially here like the last like half

2197
01:59:09,520 --> 01:59:11,920
Speaker 1: hour or so. I think is ramped up a little

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Speaker 1: bit Thursday, and I like it. I like it Fred. Thursday,

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Speaker 1: we'll be back out here at eleven forty five with

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01:59:20,400 --> 01:59:23,320
Speaker 1: video just like we did it today. So on Thursday

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01:59:23,360 --> 01:59:26,080
Speaker 1: we'll do the same thing we did today. Tomorrow is

2202
01:59:26,160 --> 01:59:29,440
Speaker 1: just a straight mini camp practice. We'll have reports from

2203
01:59:29,480 --> 01:59:34,400
Speaker 1: the practice, and that's the horn which signifies the end

2204
01:59:34,440 --> 01:59:39,280
Speaker 1: of that eleven and eleven session, don't Yeah, So now

2205
01:59:39,360 --> 01:59:41,879
Speaker 1: they're pretty much going over to the hills to condition,

2206
01:59:42,240 --> 01:59:45,280
Speaker 1: all right. So that's gonna be it for this edition

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01:59:45,480 --> 01:59:51,040
Speaker 1: of Patriots Unfiltered live from Minicamp. Remember tomorrow checkout patriots

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01:59:51,080 --> 01:59:53,840
Speaker 1: dot com for reports, and then Thursday we'll be back

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Speaker 1: out here with video and audio live from mini Camp.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening and watching today. We'll talk to you

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