1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: You guys are part of a select group of people 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: that have been the big and have played with Lebron 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: and Kobe, and you brought up G fourteen classification. 4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 2: I do not have that. 5 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: How would you explain to someone like me what those 6 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: two worlds are like, because I'm sure they're very different worlds. 7 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 3: You want to go first, Well, Kobe is okay, you 8 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 3: got Yea and Yan just like me and Shack a 9 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 3: nice Shack meanings it's the same thing. Kobe mean its Lebrun, 10 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 3: he nicest, he gonna give you everything. But it's just 11 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 3: it's just Kobe is just he's so focused in a 12 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 3: lock there, like you know, it's a different type of 13 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 3: attitude when he come into the room, locker room. Lebron, 14 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 3: he gonna give you everything. But it's the same with me, 15 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 3: Like it's everything is fun. 16 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: But your faith in them is equal, Like like your 17 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 1: faith in them as being the guy is still equal. 18 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 1: Like even though it's so different, what are the similarities. 19 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 3: Lebron Lebron is it's a level, it's a I don't 20 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 3: but they Lebron is a killer. But then you got Kobe. 21 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 3: He's a he's a mercenary, he's an assassinate assassin like 22 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 3: he's taking it to a whole nother level of killing. 23 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 3: So yeah, he was one of the guys that went 24 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:33,839 Speaker 3: to go get Osama Bin Laton, one of the Seal 25 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 3: Team six. Lebron is he right outside? 26 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 2: He's the Knicks. Somebody said this a long time ago. 27 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 2: Usually listen to what they say. Is it's Magic and Mike, 28 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 2: same mystique. Both great players. But like you said, the 29 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 2: way Magic and Mike, I'm gonna score twenty straight points 30 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 2: to just make sure that that we it's different, but 31 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 2: both great players. And my thing is when you start 32 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 2: talking about the Gold I just want all the names 33 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 2: mentioned and you got to start adding Steph Curry there. Now, 34 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 2: that's all like I'm jealous, and I'm sure Dwaite feels 35 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 2: the same way. I'm jealous. My name is not in 36 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 2: that goat Grays of all time. It is what it is. 37 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. But if you're gonna start talking about 38 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 2: these people, yes it's Jordan, yes it's Lebron, but you 39 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 2: can't forget Kobe and you can't forget Stephan you That's 40 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 2: all what I'm saying. 41 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 3: You know what I will say, Sack, and I really 42 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 3: what you got. I got too. 43 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 2: As it is. 44 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 3: But I will say when I was in eleventh grade, 45 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 3: we watched I was watching you in Columbus, Georgia. 46 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 2: We played, you know. 47 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 3: We was out at a leadership camp and I was 48 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 3: watching you play. And for me, I would tell people 49 00:02:56,639 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 3: that I feel like you were supposed to be the goat, 50 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 3: like of all time. And for me, I was just 51 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 3: like from the outside looking in, what everybody was saying 52 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:15,839 Speaker 3: was like he mustle didn't work hard enough, and that's 53 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,399 Speaker 3: how everyone tried to make it seem like. But then 54 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 3: when I start playing, you said you didn't work hard enough. 55 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 2: No, I didn't. 56 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 3: Do you feel like if you would have, you would 57 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 3: have been better? 58 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 2: No, no, but let me explain. That's their standards. I 59 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 2: don't go by their standards. I go by my standards. 60 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 2: I know you practice free dose. They told me, hey man, 61 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 2: he was check. He like you your practice every day 62 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 2: just in the game. They wouldn't go in. I know 63 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 2: you practiced. I know you got a court in your house. 64 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 2: I got to say, listen, in my house, I'm dirt 65 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 2: with whiskey when I get in the game. 66 00:03:53,120 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 3: For some reason, dirt, dirt, dirt. Yeah. 67 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 2: So and then again. You know you can only train 68 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 2: two three four hours a day. But when they want 69 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 2: to control you, oh, he doing movies. He should be practicing. 70 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 2: I did practice, and I practice after I do it, 71 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 2: so I never listened to them. And then you know 72 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 2: how that is once you start having babies. The summertime going, 73 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 2: I want to hear I gotta, I gotta go work out. 74 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,919 Speaker 2: So I always said to myself, Okay, you know what 75 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 2: worked hard, beat me off. I'm gonna take a month off, 76 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 2: not do nothing, focus on the kids. Right now. We 77 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 2: got a month and chill. I'm gonna start doing a 78 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 2: little bit, and then when I get to training camp, 79 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 2: I'm gonna work my way up. I seen a lot 80 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 2: of guys come in in shape and get turned out 81 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 2: the exactly, so I'm gonna come in out of shape. 82 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 2: Y'all gonna talk. I'm gonna get mad by also game, 83 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be there. I'm gonna still get mad then 84 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 2: by the playoffs, and then I'm gonna turn up. That 85 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 2: worked for me, So only thing, the only thing I'm 86 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:02,799 Speaker 2: pissed off about is I missed two hundred and fifty 87 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 2: games at twenty at average, that was averaging thirty. But 88 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 2: let's just say twenty five. That's another five thousand points. 89 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 2: That'll put me at thirty three. I missed ten thousand 90 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 2: free throws, so you give me three off of that 91 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 2: to make it I missed seven thousand. I'll be a 92 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 2: thirty four to thirty six thousand points. That's what I 93 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 2: am pissed off about. Other thing else. Remember, they gonna 94 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 2: say what they want. I got four rings, and it's 95 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 2: just what it is with us. Nobody ruts for a goolive. 96 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 2: But guess what, I don't give up. I do not care. 97 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 2: I did it my way, You did it your way. 98 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 2: You were in the Hall of Fame, all mother hall 99 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 2: of fame. That's all that matters. I tried to get 100 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 2: under your thing because I know you knew that we're 101 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 2: in the same thing, and I knew you were looking 102 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 2: at me because you said that. I was like, okay, 103 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 2: since you're looking at me, let me jump on and again. 104 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 2: If I was there and you was a new pubby coming, 105 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 2: I'd have been on you. I promise you. You would 106 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 2: have hated me so much. But guess what yours that 107 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 2: have had thirty five nineteen, you would have had thirty 108 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 2: five nineteen. They'd been like you and Shack fighting here. Yeah, yeah, 109 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 2: we folling practice to day, but guess what, we're going 110 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 2: to the finals again. And I said, hey, I probably 111 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 2: could have did it a different way, but that's not 112 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 2: what I know. I did the same, Penny, and look 113 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 2: what it did to him. I definitely did the same 114 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 2: to Kobe. I drove that like, all that practicing like 115 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 2: twenty hours a day, that's because I told me it wasn't. 116 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 2: Maybe it's because his own will and all that. But 117 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 2: now all that dribbling between leads, you know, doing to 118 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 2: throw me about this my team, I'm gonna be the 119 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 2: Will Smith of the NBA. Not not not why I'm here. 120 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 2: You're not throw me like it just drove him crazy. 121 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 2: And I used to see him go crazy and he 122 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 2: never fought, and crazy thing is all that me and 123 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 2: you doing. It was the same with me and him 124 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 2: in practice. He didn't say nothing as soon as he 125 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 2: get around him, right, and as soon as I get 126 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 2: around my boy. But I didn't want to stop it 127 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 2: because everybody was talking about us, and I already knew. 128 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 2: I said, you know, I'm I'm gonna do inside of 129 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 2: the triangle. I know what he's gonna do. Keep going 130 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 2: with it. Oh, Kobe's shot, gonna like it, Jail, all right, 131 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 2: we won the first championship. Always tell people you ain't 132 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 2: got to love me, she got to respect me. Yeah, 133 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 2: you know how it is like we're around each other 134 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 2: so much, we're gonna argue, we're gonna fight. I don't 135 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 2: know if you think I'm your best friend and I 136 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 2: because we have a job to do, right. But I 137 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 2: always tell people I said, okay, he hated me or whatever. 138 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 2: In our first championship, the arena, everybody runs on the floor. 139 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 2: It was the first jump in my arms. Kobe, that's it, 140 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 2: and that's what it's all about. So year two, I 141 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 2: got to do the same thing. And then year three, 142 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 2: he's coming at me. You're fat. So now it's it's 143 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 2: he's he's starting to grain at leader and like we're 144 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 2: going off. And then he did what he's supposed to do. 145 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 2: He got rid of the old master. Hey, Jared, you 146 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 2: don't get rid of me. I'm going And I respected that, 147 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 2: but I kept it going. So now that I got 148 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 2: d wighed and other people and man, you ain't that good. 149 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 2: And you're gonna ask him what to say and say, Hey, man, 150 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 2: we shot crazy. The only one I didn't do that 151 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 2: too was Brown because Brian. I was super impressed when 152 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 2: I got to clean with Bron, Bron already had that 153 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 2: control like Bron today was like, if you ever played 154 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 2: with Bron, Yeah, we wanted so when I got there, 155 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 2: as young as he is, this was a true leader 156 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 2: and he was such a leader he was doing I 157 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 2: never did. Like he got to bring his family on 158 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 2: the plane. I'm like, Damn, I love it. I was like, damn. 159 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 4: Playoff basketball is here and there's still plenty of game 160 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 4: left to be played. 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