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Speaker 1: Welcome.

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Speaker 2: In Wednesday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show, the sun

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Speaker 2: is in fact up after a dark night, and I'm

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Speaker 2: in New York City and it is certainly a very

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Speaker 2: dark morning in New York City. We will dive into,

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Speaker 2: as you might well imagine, Mam Donnie's huge win, the

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Speaker 2: wins in New Jersey and in Virginia for the Democrat candidates.

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Speaker 2: It is the one year anniversary of Trump's big win.

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Speaker 2: And certainly the Democrats who hate Trump, well, they have

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Speaker 2: not stopped hating Trump. And to me, Buck, there are

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Speaker 2: two big takeaways that I have and then I'm curious

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Speaker 2: whether you co sign or whether you have different takeaways.

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Speaker 2: And to me, let's start with New York City. This

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Speaker 2: is not an upset. Mam Donnie won a majority of

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Speaker 2: the vote in one of the highest turnout elections that

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Speaker 2: New York City has seen in most of the listeners'

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Speaker 2: lives out there, So all of our wr people open

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Speaker 2: phone lines. By the way, producer Greg will open them

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Speaker 2: if all of you. Curtis Slee, what people would like

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Speaker 2: to call in and apologize to me for correctly pointing

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Speaker 2: out that he had zero percent chance of winning and

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Speaker 2: that honestly I do think if he had dropped out

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Speaker 2: earlier and it had been a Cuomo against Mom Donnie

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Speaker 2: straight up election, I think that Cuomo may have been

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Speaker 2: able to win. The latest numbers that I saw Buck,

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Speaker 2: unless more have come in, is that Mam Donnie won

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Speaker 2: right around fifty four point four percent of the vote,

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Speaker 2: that is just barely over a majority, and that the

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Speaker 2: rest was split between SLIWA and so New York City.

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Speaker 2: Starting there, what was your take? My biggest take is like,

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Speaker 2: this is what New York wanted. The polls were all correct.

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Speaker 3: Let's take a moment because we get a lot of

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Speaker 3: of oh, you can't trust the polls, you can't know.

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Speaker 3: The polls were pretty much spot on the people that

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Speaker 3: were leading all one, and the margins were more or

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Speaker 3: less what was expected. Virginia might have been a little

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Speaker 3: bigger than expected, but look, we lost the governor's mansion

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Speaker 3: in Virginia. We lost, well, we didn't win the contest

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Speaker 3: for the governor's mansion. In New Jersey, we've got a

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Speaker 3: communist mayor of New York City Inbound Clay.

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Speaker 1: I am wearing Soviet.

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Speaker 3: Union red today in solidarity with Comrade Zoran. But the

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Speaker 3: political consensus the wisdom of the chattering class, whatever you

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Speaker 3: want to call it, was locked in correct. And everything

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Speaker 3: that we told you to be fair was also correct.

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Speaker 1: None of this.

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Speaker 3: I was hopeful that maybe we would steal something from

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Speaker 3: New Jersey, but we didn't.

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Speaker 1: So it was not a strong night.

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Speaker 3: Look, these are very tough races in very tough spaces

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Speaker 3: for not just a Republican but for sanity.

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Speaker 1: This is like the heart of darkness.

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Speaker 3: When you're talking about New York City, you're talking about

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Speaker 3: you know, the northern part of Virginia, which now dominates

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Speaker 3: the state. Clay I will say, and we're going to

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Speaker 3: get into the demographic data too here that also completely

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Speaker 3: aligned with what we thought. If you thought some group

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Speaker 3: was going to vote Mam Donnie, they did. By the way,

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Speaker 3: Mom Donnie got over ninety percent of the black vote,

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Speaker 3: something that was not talked about very much in advance

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Speaker 3: of the election. So that was the single strongest demographic

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Speaker 3: for Mom Donnie. But there are many, you know, young women, millennials, Hispanics, Asians.

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Speaker 3: There's all these breakdowns of the data we'll see, Clay,

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Speaker 3: I think that at the biggest level, at the thirty

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Speaker 3: thousand foot view, this is a reminder that economics is

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Speaker 3: still the dominant political issue in America. Wherever you are,

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Speaker 3: people are worried about price, They're worried about cost of living.

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Speaker 3: They're worried about their future and their children's future, or

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Speaker 3: even their ability to have children because of the future

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Speaker 3: that they see, and the political party that addresses that

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Speaker 3: with more a plum, not just more accuracy. Zoran was

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Speaker 3: more fun than the other guys. Yeah, he's a communist,

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Speaker 3: He's gonna ruin New York. We all get that, right,

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Speaker 3: But Clay who was more entertaining, who was more engaging,

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Speaker 3: who seemed like he wanted it more?

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Speaker 1: It's not even close. Cuomo barely showed up.

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Speaker 2: New York City's in trouble with Mom Donnie, but they

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Speaker 2: voted for him for sure. The turnout was huge. Here's

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Speaker 2: and we have to do it honestly. Trump got more

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Speaker 2: either of the winning candidates did Mickey, Cheryl or spam Berger. Okay,

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Speaker 2: why do I say that? Yes, it was a presidential election. Yes,

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Speaker 2: it's an off year election, but that always happens. In

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Speaker 2: even though we change you to go vote. Okay, shame.

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Speaker 2: What does that mean going forward? The people Buck who

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Speaker 2: hate Trump, they show up, their brains are broken. They

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Speaker 2: will show up at a school board vote because they

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Speaker 2: hate Trump. The people who love Trump, they don't show

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Speaker 2: up when Trump's not on the ballot. And so that

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Speaker 2: is ominous for twenty twenty six, and candidly it's ominous

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Speaker 2: for twenty twenty eight, which is why I have told

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Speaker 2: you the pivot is coming very soon to Trump's voters

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Speaker 2: Trump's voters won't show up in twenty six. And that

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Speaker 2: is to me, the biggest, most impactful thing about what

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Speaker 2: in New Jersey and Virginia. It wasn't that somehow these

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Speaker 2: Democrats won and turned out unbelievable numbers.

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Speaker 1: The numbers in New York City were unbelievable, and they

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Speaker 1: were good.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they actually did do a good job of turnout,

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Speaker 3: I think in New York particularly, but in New York City.

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Speaker 2: But that's why I said, it's two different takes. New

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Speaker 2: York City, they said, we want Commie Mom, Donnie, he's

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Speaker 2: our guy. We are excited to go to the polls

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Speaker 2: and make this guy the next mayor. You said, it's

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Speaker 2: because he's exciting. I mean, I think that he ran.

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Speaker 2: I think you got to give him credit. A great

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Speaker 2: campaign and he delivered based on an awful, awful pitch

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Speaker 2: reality wise, But in New Jersey and Virginia, the biggest

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Speaker 2: story to me is Trump's people didn't show up.

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Speaker 3: There is a fundamental reality that the GOP is going

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Speaker 3: to have to address. Look, this is an off year election.

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Speaker 3: This was Democrat home turf really across the board. I mean,

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Speaker 1: A purple blue state.

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Speaker 3: I know we had that that nice, that nice off

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Speaker 3: year win before with youngkin win. Some Seieres seems like

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Speaker 3: a wonderful lady and a just a very good person.

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Speaker 3: A completely unmemorable campaign, not to be mean. I think

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Speaker 3: her to live in Virginia, but just not a campaigner.

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Speaker 3: You know, you can be a good leader, you can

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Speaker 3: be a good decider, but not really a campaigner. Zorn

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Speaker 3: is kind of funny, Clay, He's the opposite. Zoran created

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Speaker 3: a show. Zorn remembered the lessons of Saul Alinsky. Go

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Speaker 3: back and read Rules for Radicals. Everybody Alyinsky there was.

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Speaker 3: There is an evil brilliance to so much that is

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Speaker 3: in that book. One of the things is make it fun,

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Speaker 3: Make it an activity. Make activism something people want to

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Speaker 3: show up to because they'll feel cool and they'll laugh

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Speaker 3: and they'll be with their friends. And Zoran manage to

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Speaker 3: do that. Now Trump has had that same effect on

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Speaker 3: the right. Trump is both a political and a cultural phenomenon.

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Speaker 3: People show up with their MAGA hats, People show up

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Speaker 3: feeling like they are part of something. The big question

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Speaker 3: for twenty eight, more so even than twenty six, I

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Speaker 3: think Clay, is how does the MAGA movement coalesce around

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Speaker 3: an air apparent? How does Trump play into that? And

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Speaker 3: this is gonna be something we talk a lot about

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Speaker 3: in the next year. But in the meantime, the economy,

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Speaker 3: and that means healthcare, that means inflation, the cost of rent,

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Speaker 3: the cost of groceries, the cost of everything. You gotta

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Speaker 3: have messaging on this everyone or else, the commedies will

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Speaker 2: Here is a funny tweet on this, because we are

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Speaker 2: going to try to have some hue because sometimes you

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Speaker 2: get your ask, you have to have a little bit

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Speaker 2: of you have to have a little bit of black

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Speaker 2: sense of humor, right, a dark sense of humor.

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Speaker 1: I told my parents, just make sure that go bags

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Speaker 1: are by the front door. I'm here in Florida. If

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Speaker 1: you flee, you know where to go. They're fine.

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Speaker 2: Brad Chadlington, I don't know who he is, but I

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Speaker 2: saw this and I thought it was so funny. The richest, whitest,

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Speaker 2: most sheltered girl you know, from the wealthiest suburb in

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Speaker 2: the country is posting a picture of zorn mom Donnie

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Speaker 2: on her story right now, captioned power to the people

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Speaker 2: from her soho apartment that's paid for by her wealthy

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Speaker 2: conservative father. There is a lot of truth to this,

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Speaker 2: because the more recently you arrived in New York City,

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Speaker 2: I saw a breakdown based on length of time that

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Speaker 2: people have lived in New York City, the more likely

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Speaker 2: you were to vote for Mom Donnie overwhelming majority.

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Speaker 1: I think it was eighty two percent.

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Speaker 2: I saw of people that have gotten to New York

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Speaker 2: A lot of those or immigrants, right, which is a

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Speaker 2: whole big discussion in general. But a lot of those

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Speaker 3: Well, we all we got to slow immigration down in general.

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Speaker 3: There's another conversation that ever needs to have. If you

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Speaker 3: That's actually not what you want. No other country would

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Speaker 3: allow that. Yeah, I know the worst. We've been brainwashed

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Speaker 3: And we have to have a discussion about that as well.

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Speaker 3: We're good, We've had a lot of immigration you know,

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Speaker 3: we've had a lot of legal immigration, a lot of

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Speaker 3: illegal immigration. It's time to it's time to tighten up

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Speaker 3: some of these numbers a little bit and let assimilation

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Speaker 3: and Americanism and Americanizing take place for everybody. It can't

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Speaker 3: just be this wide open door and you get people

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Speaker 3: coming here from all over the world who are saying,

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Speaker 3: you know what, I want, communism.

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Speaker 1: That's not good.

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Speaker 3: That's not going to help us very much here by

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Speaker 3: the country went through this before the city of Chicago,

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Speaker 3: in particular Clay right around the turn of the twentieth century.

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Speaker 3: There are all kinds of commedis and socialists and anarchists

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Speaker 2: The biggest issue I would say with illegal immigration and

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Speaker 2: you know where I am right now in New York City,

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Speaker 2: huge Irish populations, huge Italian populations, huge numbers of immigrants.

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Speaker 2: A lot of them still came from a Western civilization

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Speaker 1: There was a.

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Speaker 2: Common floor of agreement on some level. A lot of

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Speaker 3: The other problem on this, though, is they are getting

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Speaker 3: We expected all these results, Clay.

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Speaker 2: We told people that these results were coming, and a

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Speaker 1: I don't believe the polls.

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Speaker 2: Remember Hillary Clay, You're the reason Slee was gonna win.

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Speaker 3: So, you know, a native son of New York formerly

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Speaker 1: I wonder is that really.

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Speaker 2: Now people may not act on it, but there's a

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Speaker 1: We have been talking about election results.

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Speaker 3: Of course, look not a great night for Republicans, but

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Speaker 3: So let's all keep it, keep it in context, we

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Speaker 3: It's all gonna be fine in the long run. We're

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Speaker 1: Remember that, Oh he's just quit.

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Speaker 3: He's just done with everything because he's living the same

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Speaker 3: That is all a part of this. And uh, this

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Speaker 1: In New Jersey.

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Speaker 3: It was a close call, but there they ran two female,

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Speaker 3: It's so interesting. You get to run to be the governor.

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Speaker 4: We're not going to give in to our darker impulses

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Speaker 3: Okay, idea here, theory, theory here, I'm gonna float something

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Speaker 1: Is this what the switch is? Now? They've gone from

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Speaker 2: They just have to convince their base that Trump is

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Speaker 3: Look, it was a little over, a little overdrawn, a

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Speaker 2: Like I said, some of y'all are listening to right now.

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Speaker 3: That was, Uh, it was disappointing because I think that

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Speaker 3: Chitdarelli had a real chance.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 3: But then there's Spanberger and look, let's hear who is

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Speaker 3: who is such a a h an amorphous phony in

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Speaker 3: so many ways, you know, just talks and circles. Doesn't

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Speaker 3: take the she's going to govern like a radical leftist.

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Speaker 3: People who follow up politics and know anything about who

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Speaker 3: she is know that, but not enough to your point

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Speaker 3: about people not showing up, Virginians thought, oh, well, you

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Speaker 3: know it's govern or not not that, not all of them,

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Speaker 3: but obviously a fair number of Republicans in Virginia decided,

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Speaker 3: or don't just say Trump voters, not even just Republicans,

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Speaker 3: A fair number of Trump voters enough to deliver a

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Speaker 3: w for the Republicans said oh, I'm not going to

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Speaker 3: show up.

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Speaker 1: Here's what Spanberger says, Play twenty.

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Speaker 4: My fellow Virginians tonight we sent a message. We sent

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Speaker 4: a message to every corner of the Commonwealth, a message

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Speaker 4: to our neighbors and our fellow Americans across the country.

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Speaker 4: We sent a message to the whole world that in

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty five, Virginia chose pragmatism over partisanship. We chose

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Speaker 4: our commonwealth over chaos.

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Speaker 1: What does that even mean, Clay, pragmatism over partisan ship.

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Speaker 1: You ran in a partisan election and you want dudes

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Speaker 1: in chicks' locker rooms pragmatism.

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Speaker 2: I just again, I think everybody has to prepare themselves

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Speaker 2: for as moronic as you believe it is to say

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Speaker 2: no Kings or Hitler or the base of any're right,

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Speaker 2: it is like these people are losers, they are morons.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna just be honest with you. If you are

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Speaker 2: showing up at a No King's protest, I think you

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Speaker 2: are a huge loser who needs to get a life.

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Speaker 2: I don't think there's any other way to describe it.

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Speaker 2: But they have decided that their life's purpose Buck is

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Speaker 2: Trump is a king, Trump is Hitler, and so they're

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Speaker 2: gonna show up. So I think, for looking forward, what

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Speaker 2: has to happen in order for the coalition that showed

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Speaker 2: up for Trump in twenty twenty four to show up

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Speaker 2: again in twenty six and again in twenty eight. Those

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Speaker 2: are the questions that I think should be asked as

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Speaker 2: we get ready for the mid terms.

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Speaker 3: I think that this is something I addressed in my book,

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Speaker 3: which will be out in February. By the way, have

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Speaker 3: you gotten your copy of Balls? I got my copy

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Speaker 3: of Balls that showed up yesterday, so I don't forget.

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Speaker 1: On that one.

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Speaker 2: I saw your picture. You're pushing your book. I know

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Speaker 2: you are today. I appreciate it. The book is out there.

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Speaker 2: Please go buy it. I love all of you who

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Speaker 2: have bought it. It is everywhere and it is selling really,

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Speaker 2: really well, according to the people who can monitor these things,

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Speaker 2: and one of the best selling books in America as

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Speaker 2: we speak.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to get caught without balls, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean. It's not good.

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Speaker 2: So you end up voting for Mikey Cheryl or Avidannaberg

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Speaker 2: or Mom Donnie. If you don't have balls, you need balls, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you need them.

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Speaker 1: I would say, though, the.

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Speaker 3: The Democrat Party now for the purposes of mobilization, and

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Speaker 3: this is why I was talking about the Nazi thing

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Speaker 3: for Trump and now the No King's thing and the

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Speaker 3: resistance and anti fascism. They have have to get people

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Speaker 3: on their side to believe in a fantasy in unreality. Yes,

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Speaker 3: they're not saying show up and vote for the Democrat

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Speaker 3: because we can get higher taxes on high earners and

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Speaker 3: we're going to have a more open borders policy where

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Speaker 3: anybody can claim asylum and they're not.

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Speaker 1: It's Trump is a king. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Look, honestly, I think Trump being a king would be

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Speaker 3: kind of fun for a little while. But that's a

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Speaker 3: whole other that's a whole other conversation. That's a whole

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Speaker 3: other conversation. Point is he's not nowhere near a king,

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Speaker 3: all right, He's nowhere near a king. We all know this.

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Speaker 3: They are running against a delusion and it works, and

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Speaker 3: it works. Now that's the troubling part.

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Speaker 1: It works.

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Speaker 2: So that's why I look forward. I mean, look, the

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Speaker 2: reality is most of our lives and if you live

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Speaker 2: in Virginia or New Jersey, that can be different. Certainly,

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Speaker 2: if you live in New York City, that can be different.

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Speaker 2: But for the vast majority of people listening right now,

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Speaker 2: our lives are not going to change substantially based on

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Speaker 2: what happened last night. But in the midterms, the first

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Speaker 2: thing they're gonna do if they take back the House

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Speaker 2: is impeached Donald Trump, and they're just gonna throw themselves

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Speaker 2: athwart all of a governance and refuse to allow anything

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Speaker 2: at all to happen if they take back the House.

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Speaker 2: And obviously in twenty twenty eight, whomever is elected as

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Speaker 2: the next republic the president and certainly who the Republican

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Speaker 2: nominee is going to impact a lot of people out there.

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Speaker 2: So my point on all this is they're gonna look

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Speaker 2: at these results and they're gonna say, our base still

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Speaker 2: turns out against Trump, and so I would suspect that

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Speaker 2: will be their entire campaign next year, well the midterms.

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Speaker 2: That is absolutely the case. It is the midterms is

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Speaker 2: just a stop Trump election for them, and that may

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Speaker 2: be enough. Now we're gonna have to have people understand

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Speaker 2: if the Democrats even just take the House, never mind

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Speaker 2: the Senate, the Trump agenda's over correct. Effectively, it's dead

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Speaker 2: in the water. Legislatively, you may be able to get

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Speaker 2: some cool executive You might get really creative with some

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Speaker 2: executive wars. We should mention the Supreme Court is really

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Speaker 2: hearing whether he has the authority on tariffs. That happened

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Speaker 2: today too. It kind of got snowed under in the

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Speaker 2: election results.

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Speaker 3: So there's that that might be the most destructive Supreme

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Speaker 3: Court decision since they decided that you could tax inactivity

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Speaker 3: with Obamacare, which now we all see. I might add,

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Speaker 3: but do you see what the policies would be without

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Speaker 3: the subsidies for some family of four policies for healthcare

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Speaker 3: forty fifty grand a year forty fifty thousand dollars a

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Speaker 3: year for insurance, not for health care, for insurance, for

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Speaker 3: health care. This is what Obamacare half brought America madness.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Supreme Court, Thank you John Roberts.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's totally broken, and the whole concept of paying

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Speaker 2: for insurance is predicated on I hate the insurance industry

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Speaker 2: in general. Apologies to all the insurance agents out there.

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Speaker 2: It's the only thing you're forced to buy that you

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Speaker 2: hope you never use in all seriousness, Like right, the

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Speaker 2: amount that you spend and I spend on car insurance

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Speaker 2: and health insurance and home insurance and everything else, and

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Speaker 2: the vast majority of people will never use it, which

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Speaker 2: is why the industry exists at all. It drives me insane.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why.

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Speaker 3: I know it's nowhere near groundhog Day, and now I'm

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Speaker 3: thinking of Ned Ryerson from groundhog Day. Remember the insurance

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Speaker 3: salesman that he meets on the street. That guy is

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Speaker 3: a character actor, does a great business. I don't begrudge

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Speaker 3: the insurance business. How many times can you get paid

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Speaker 3: for something that people never use? I mean, that's the

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Speaker 3: entire foundation of the insurance. But our medical system is

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Speaker 3: broken because there is no actual transparency on cost. If

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Speaker 3: I could change one thing and just wave a magic

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Speaker 3: wand it would be that everybody knows what insurance costs.

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Speaker 3: I mean, health is also an active We need to

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Speaker 3: think of health as an active process and not something

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Speaker 3: like where your car breaks down, you.

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Speaker 1: Go to get it fixed.

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Speaker 3: You actually have to be thinking about and taking care

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Speaker 3: of your health actively as you go. But that's a

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Speaker 2: You don't know what you don't know right, but you

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay, Travis, Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all

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Speaker 2: of you hanging out with us as we are rolling

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Speaker 2: through the second hour of the program reacting to the

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Speaker 2: election results in Virginia, in New Jersey, and in New

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Speaker 2: York City. And we had a caller as we went

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Speaker 2: to break there Buck talking about the Jay Jones situation.

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Speaker 2: He was the canon it for Attorney General in Virginia,

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Speaker 2: who it was revealed, had said awful things about his

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Speaker 2: political opponents, that he wanted his kids to die, the

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Speaker 2: political opponents of his kids, that he would piss on

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Speaker 2: their graves. And he won, and he won fifty three

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Speaker 2: basically to forty seven. And I believe we have the

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Speaker 2: data here. I was going to play it for us,

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Speaker 2: but cut twenty two, just forty six percent of Virginia

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Speaker 2: voters thought saying that you wanted your kid, the kids

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Speaker 2: of your political opponents to be killed and you would

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Speaker 2: piss on their graves if it happened, was disqualifying. Saunder

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Speaker 2: Smith Fox News twenty two.

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Speaker 7: If you look at some of the some of the

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Speaker 7: text back to twenty twenty two and how this is

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Speaker 7: affecting the.

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Speaker 1: Attorney general's race.

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Speaker 7: There possibility of a split ticket. We asked voters what

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Speaker 7: best described their opinion of those leaked techs. Almost has

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Speaker 7: found them to be disqualifying. About one in four so

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Speaker 7: they were concerning, But then another one and four said

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Speaker 7: they weren't concerned or they hadn't heard.

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Speaker 1: Enough about it.

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Speaker 2: So buck to me, this is the worst part of

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Speaker 2: the election results because I'm not surprised. We talked about

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Speaker 2: the fact that New Jersey is a blue state, it

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Speaker 2: occasionally elects Republicans, most of the time it does not,

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Speaker 2: and so the fact that Cheryl won not a huge surprise.

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Speaker 2: The fact that Virginia flipped back Virginia almost always the

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Speaker 2: winning party is the opposition to who the president is.

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Speaker 2: But this thing, I thought that Jason Miarz, who we

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Speaker 2: had on the program, I thought he would win because

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Speaker 2: if you're the chief law enforcement officer of a state,

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure exactly what the standard on behavior should be,

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Speaker 2: but wishing that you're the kids of your political opponents

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Speaker 2: were murdered, and that if it happened, you would piss

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Speaker 2: on their graves and Matt having been written out I

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Speaker 2: being in text, it would be disqualifying to me. I'd

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Speaker 2: be like, I don't know that I can trust the

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Speaker 2: judgment of this guy. Virginia didn't care.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that.

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Speaker 3: Look, this is disconcerting because you also would like to think.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't want to get too deep into this,

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Speaker 3: but the country's been through a lot. The country's been

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Speaker 3: through a lot of stuff that we would never want

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Speaker 3: to see again, and so I would hope that the

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Speaker 3: general electorate. I'm not talking about lunatics on Blue Sky

657
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Speaker 3: or Blue Star or whatever, you know, the left wing Twitter.

658
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Speaker 3: I would hope that normal Americans would really have a

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Speaker 3: problem with the kind of stuff that this guy, who

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Speaker 3: is supposed to be a senior law enforcement officer, yes,

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Speaker 3: was saying. And the fact that they don't have a

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Speaker 3: problem with it at all is important for everyone to

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Speaker 3: understand the mentality and what we're opposing here and what

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Speaker 3: we're dealing with. That's where this is. You need to

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Speaker 3: recognize that while they're claiming no kings, and while they're

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Speaker 3: saying Trump is so coarse and Trump is so awful,

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Speaker 3: on the other side of things, on the other side

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Speaker 3: of things, they will allow someone to become a senior

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Speaker 3: law enforcement officer who does this right, so they don't

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Speaker 3: actually have any standards.

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Speaker 1: Play is the reality. There's not any.

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Speaker 3: Moral or ethical clarity. It's we want what we want.

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Speaker 3: We support our team no matter what, and we're going

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Speaker 3: to say whatever we want about your team, no or

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Speaker 3: how absurd, crazy, defamatory, or destructive it is. And we're

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Speaker 3: only going to talk about tamping down political violence when

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Speaker 3: our side, the left, actually does it, which as we know,

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Speaker 3: the left is the one that has the problem with

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Speaker 3: political violence. That is reality. They're only going to say

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Speaker 3: maybe we should calm both sides down after their side

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Speaker 3: does something horrible, and they take no ownership for the climate,

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Speaker 3: the temperature, any of that stuff.

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Speaker 2: And it speaks to the fact that all that mattered

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Speaker 2: was that Jay Jones was a Democrat. And I mean,

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Speaker 2: this makes me like kind of want to puke a

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Speaker 2: little bit. But what do you think j Jones said

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Speaker 2: after he was elected. This is the guy who wanted

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Speaker 2: the kids of his political opponents murdered, said he would

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Speaker 2: piss on their graves. Here's what he said in his

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Speaker 2: acceptance speech cut twenty one.

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Speaker 8: I will defend the rights of every single Virginian. I

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00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,879
Speaker 8: will protect our jobs, our healthcare, and our economy from

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Speaker 8: Donald Trump's attacks. I will always work to protect a

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Speaker 8: woman's right to an abortion here in Virginia. Donald Trump,

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Speaker 8: MAGA and those corporate special interests believe that Virginia's government

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Speaker 8: should be beholden to them. But tonight we sent a

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Speaker 8: loud message to them into every single person across this country.

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Speaker 8: Virginia belongs to the people. Together, we stand firm against

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Speaker 8: the people who would take us backward. We will use

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Speaker 8: tonight as a springboard to reject the politics of divisiveness

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Speaker 8: and division.

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Speaker 9: You wanted to kill the kids of your opponents. How

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Speaker 9: in the world in your acceptance speech are you saying

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Speaker 9: you're fighting back against the politics of division.

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Speaker 1: Again.

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Speaker 2: I look at some of this and I just say,

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Speaker 2: in many respects, this is You know, if I lived

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Speaker 2: in a state that was regularly electing Democrats, I don't

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Speaker 2: think I could live in that state anymore. And I

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Speaker 2: understand because forty percent of people are going to vote

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Speaker 2: the other way in any state. Right So, California forty Democrat,

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Speaker 2: and my state is going to be pretty comfortably sixty

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Speaker 2: to forty Republican.

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Speaker 1: In Tennessee for the rest of my life.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I could live in a state that

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Speaker 2: would elect someone like Jay Jones. I'm just being honest

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Speaker 2: with you. If you can elect someone as the chief

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Speaker 2: law enforcement officer of your state that said he wants

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Speaker 2: to see the kids of a political opponent murdered and

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Speaker 2: that if it happened, he would piss on their graves,

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Speaker 2: how can you feel comfortable living in that state? And

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Speaker 2: I understand a lot of you in southwest Virginia are

723
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Speaker 2: listening to us right now, very different vibe than what

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Speaker 2: happens in northern Virginia. But this guy's the chief law

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Speaker 2: enforcement officer of your state. Now, how can you trust

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Speaker 2: any decision that he makes? And how can you trust

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Speaker 2: any decision that your fellow neighbors in Virginia have made? Again,

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Speaker 2: I don't think I could live in a blue state

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Speaker 2: right now. And also, all these people at these No

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Speaker 2: Kings protests, as we were discussing, we're always whining on

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Speaker 2: about civility and decency and how Trump is so coarse

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Speaker 2: and Trump goes too far and all this stuff. We're

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Speaker 2: the ones who had our president and presidential candidate shot

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Speaker 2: through the year and almost shot again. We're the ones

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Speaker 2: who are still processing the horrendous grief of losing our

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Speaker 2: friend and incredible political force, Charlie Kirk to an assassin's bullet.

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Speaker 2: We're the ones that are having to always say, Okay,

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Speaker 2: I know there's a lot of crazies on your side,

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Speaker 2: but for the betterment of the country, we're going to

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Speaker 2: try to move forward and stay calm. And then they

741
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Speaker 2: have something like this, yeah, where it.

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Speaker 1: Would be very clear.

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Speaker 3: I mean, no one saying, you know, it's not like

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Speaker 3: this is a presidential election where you say, well, but

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Speaker 3: I'll do anything to make sure that abortion stays legal

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Speaker 3: nationally or whatever it is. This is for the attorney

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Speaker 3: general of a state, and you're really going to put

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Speaker 3: forward this guy. Look, the other thing we haven't even mentioned.

749
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Speaker 3: Alvin Bragg in New York City got re elected.

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Speaker 1: Well, of course.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't I mean, that doesn't surprise me at all.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Letitia James, if she is able, will get

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Speaker 2: elected for the rest of her life or as long

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Speaker 2: as people are willing to are able to claim that

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Speaker 2: Trump is Hitler and everything else. But Virginia, this surprised me.

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Speaker 2: This was the only result that I saw and I

757
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 2: thought wow, because again New Jersey governor, Virginia governor, Democrats

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Speaker 2: traditionally win, they're favored. They didn't vote for Trump in

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Speaker 2: those states. But for the attorney general to have those techs,

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Speaker 2: to have it come out, and for him to win

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Speaker 2: not only win buck, but win by I think six

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Speaker 2: and a half points, which means that it really wasn't

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Speaker 2: that close, and that not even very many people ticket split.

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Speaker 2: Even if you were a Democrat supporter, you didn't say, Okay,

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Speaker 2: you know what, I'll vote span Berger for governor, but

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna draw the line at wanting my kids out,

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Speaker 2: wanting the kids of political opponents murdered. Democrats were just like, Nope,

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Speaker 2: I'm sticking with Jay Jones. And then for him to

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Speaker 2: come out and say in his reelection or his election

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Speaker 2: speech night victory, we got to work on divisiveness. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna tamp down divisiveness. Like what so many of these.

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Speaker 3: People that's spinning in the face of everyone who's paying attention.

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Speaker 3: That's what that is, that's meant to be. That's like

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Speaker 3: Gavin Newsom saying he hates politicians who lie.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's exactly what that is. But it also makes

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Speaker 2: me hate politicians. The more time I spend listening to

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00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 2: some of these morons talk, the more time I spend

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Speaker 2: thinking we need way better politicians. We are not being

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Speaker 2: led by the best and brightest among us candidly. And

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Speaker 2: so look, I can be angry at voters, and I

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Speaker 2: am because they put Jajos in office.

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Speaker 1: But Jay Jones is a.

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Speaker 2: Moron, violent, incompetent, and he was able to get elected.

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Speaker 2: And you just said, Buck, did you listen. I'm like spamburger, Mickey, Cheryl.

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Speaker 2: These are the most bland, uninteresting, not particularly inspiring candidates

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Speaker 2: that are on the planet, and yet they're out there,

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Speaker 2: like I just.

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Speaker 3: They're just a trojan They're just a trojan horse for

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Speaker 3: the left wing agenda, which is exactly what you and

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Speaker 3: I and so many others said was going to be

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Speaker 3: true of Biden in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: Oh, good old Joe.

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Speaker 3: You know, he's a moderate, he's a guy you can trust,

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Speaker 3: he's a union guy. All lies, all lies. The White

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Speaker 3: House was putting out stuff about transgender surgery for miners

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Speaker 3: being critical care. The White House was doing that under

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Speaker 3: Joe Biden. Okay, we need to have twelve year olds

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Speaker 3: on hormone therapy. Asap because the left is insane. You're

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Speaker 3: gonna get the same thing with these women who you know,

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Speaker 3: Mikey Cheryl Apparently her whole campaign is like I went

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Speaker 3: to the Naval Academy. Okay, yeah, you know, thirty years

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Speaker 3: that's nice, but that was it from what I understand.

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Speaker 3: And Alison Spamberger, Abigail Allison whatever and is spam Burger.

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Speaker 3: She was just I'm not Trump, no Kings, and unfortunately

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Speaker 3: that was enough. With all of the brainless, brainless automatons

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Speaker 3: that go along with that stuff.

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Speaker 1: We would you be.

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Speaker 2: Thinking if you still lived in New York City? You

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Speaker 2: know I was saying earlier, I couldn't live Like, if

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Speaker 2: you were still living in New York City, would you

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Speaker 2: I know, you made the decision to move to Miami, yeah,

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Speaker 2: because you saw this coming. But do you think if

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Speaker 2: you were waking up in New York City this morning

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Speaker 2: you would be would it be your tipping point in

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Speaker 2: some way if you had managed to stay?

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Speaker 1: That's interesting.

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Speaker 3: I think if you were willing to put up with

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Speaker 3: what happened after COVID, you're willing to see how it goes,

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Speaker 3: willing to roll the dice with this. I don't expect

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Speaker 3: they'll be a big outflow of people. I don't expect that.

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Speaker 3: So I just I look at this. I mean, when

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Speaker 3: I see the Jay Jones, when I see the mom

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Speaker 3: Donnie thing, I don't think I could live in a

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Speaker 3: place where people would make decisions like these, because I

825
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Speaker 3: would just walk around all the time, like how can

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Speaker 3: I trust anything here? Because I mean to vote for

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Speaker 3: someone who wanted to see his political opponent's kids murdered?

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Speaker 1: Is so far?

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Speaker 2: People's like, well Trump said some salacious that. Yeah, he

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Speaker 2: talked about how to grab chicks. Okay, like that's so

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Speaker 2: that's ridiculous, but it's clear like locker room talk ridiculousness,

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Speaker 2: it's Trump right, Like this is Hey, I'm on a text, man,

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Speaker 2: he's telling what he thinks is a joke, trying to

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Speaker 2: make somebody laugh. This is on a text message. And

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Speaker 2: the woman he was texting with Buck was like, you

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Speaker 2: don't really mean that, like you're kind of getting carried away,

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Speaker 2: and he's like, no, I really mean it, and I

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Speaker 2: would miss on their graves. Like she gave him an

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Speaker 2: off ramp of like, hey, you just got carried away

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Speaker 2: a little bit on a text.

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Speaker 3: She realized what you said is so shameful, like you

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Speaker 3: can't actually, let's give you the opportunity to not be

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00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 3: a total, you know, demonic freak. And he decided to

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Speaker 3: double down on it. And now he's going to be

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Speaker 3: determining who goes to prison correct and who's prosecuted in

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Speaker 3: the state of Virginia. Think about that now.

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Speaker 2: Arguably it's the most important job in many ways in

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Speaker 2: the state of Virginia, and certainly it's one where judgment

849
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 2: matters more than most because everything you do is look

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Speaker 2: at cases and determine what are the cases that should

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Speaker 2: be brought. And Jason Mirs, by the way, was doing

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Speaker 2: a really good job as the sitting Attorney General. So

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Speaker 2: it's not only that he got elected, it's that he

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Speaker 2: beat an incumbent that was running for reelection having done

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Speaker 2: a good job.

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Speaker 1: We'll take some of your calls, Ryan or Dusky.

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Speaker 2: Our buddy's going to join us the top of the

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Speaker 2: third hour, give you a little bit of a data

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Speaker 2: analysis of what he saw in the numbers. In the meantime.

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Speaker 1: Oh, welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. Oh

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Speaker 1: my friends. A lot of you on a weigh in

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Speaker 1: on a lot of things.

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Speaker 3: But one thing that we mentioned that this, unfortunately could

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Speaker 3: be a bit of a problem. Supreme Court looking at

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Speaker 3: Trump's tariffs, which remember a little bit of review here,

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Speaker 3: we were told they would be so bad for the economy.

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Speaker 3: Meanwhile they've been it seems, hundreds of billions of dollars

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Speaker 3: in the American coffer, and the economy is doing just great,

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Speaker 3: at least when it comes to trade, the stock market, investment,

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Speaker 3: things like that. Yes, prices are high, but and some

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Speaker 3: people said, well, prices are going to rise a lot

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Speaker 3: because of terriffs. We actually haven't seen that. If they've risen,

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Speaker 3: they've risen a little bit. But that's something that's certainly

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Speaker 3: on everyone's mind because if the Supreme Court were to

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Speaker 3: say Trump's tariffs are unconstitutional, we have a problem. This

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Speaker 3: is cut thirty three. Trump just in Miami, my city. Here,

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Speaker 3: here's what he's saying. Play it.

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Speaker 10: One hundred percent of the jobs have come from the

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Speaker 10: private sector.

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Speaker 1: Otherwise you don't have a country.

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Speaker 10: I mean, I love government workers, but if you have

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Speaker 10: all government workers, you don't have a country, do you.

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Speaker 10: At the same time, my tariffs are bringing in hundreds

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Speaker 10: of billions of dollars and a helping slash a deficit

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Speaker 10: this year by more than fifty percent. Did you see

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Speaker 10: those numbers? We're going to be down fifty percent anywhere

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Speaker 10: from twenty five to fifty, but closer to fifty percent

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Speaker 10: to them who would think that one, those are big numbers, Clay.

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Speaker 3: Whatever one thinks of the tariffs, if they were to

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Speaker 3: get undermined by the Supreme or effectively done away with

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Speaker 3: by the Supreme Court, that's gonna get messy.

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Speaker 1: What do you even do?

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Speaker 2: It's not dissimilar in my mind back to how you

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Speaker 2: in birthright citizenship. Sometimes the law has just been applied

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Speaker 2: for so long and so significantly you would have to

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Speaker 2: give refunds. It would turn into a real mess. So

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Speaker 2: a part of me wonders if they could say, hey,

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Speaker 2: we don't think this is constitutional. But it's also also

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Speaker 2: incredibly difficult for the court to to order a remediation

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Speaker 2: in some way in this perspective, So they could try

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Speaker 2: to instruct Congress to see if Congress would vote to

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Speaker 2: give the president the authority right, because this is really

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Speaker 2: a separation of powers argument. It's does the president have

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Speaker 2: the power under emergency declarations to put in place tariffs.

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Speaker 2: This is a big picture analysis, or should with the

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Speaker 2: power of the purse, Congress have to make a decision

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Speaker 2: of this magnitude, And so you have all three powers

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Speaker 2: of separation of power elements here the court trying to

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Speaker 2: tell Congress what they should have done and what the

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Speaker 2: president can't do and deligate those differences. It is somewhat

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Speaker 2: complicated to go back, we were talking about this off

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Speaker 2: air and say, oh, by the way, that four hundred

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Speaker 2: billion dollars that the President has already collected in tariffs

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Speaker 2: roughly maybe it's three hundred billion now certainly projected towards

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Speaker 2: four hundred it has to somehow be refunded. That's first

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Speaker 2: of all, going to increase the deficit obviously, but also

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Speaker 2: complicated to figure out how to reassess and reallocate those dollars.

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Speaker 2: So this is actually an incredibly significant but also incredibly

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Speaker 2: complicated Supreme Court case that was taking place this morning.

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Speaker 1: How do you think it shakes out, mister lawyer hat Clay.

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Speaker 2: A part of me thinks that they will say that

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Speaker 2: the president doesn't have the authority to do it and

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Speaker 2: try to put a end of year timeline. This is

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Speaker 2: just totally making it up right, because I think going

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Speaker 2: back and taking away the dollars that have already come

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Speaker 2: into the government and making the government give refunds is complicated.

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Speaker 2: The easy out, I would think, would be trying to

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Speaker 2: figure out if there's a congressional bill that could be

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Speaker 1: Welcome back into clay An Buck.

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Speaker 3: Oh my, so much coming in here on the talkbacks

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Speaker 3: and on the well just everything from the results from

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Speaker 3: this election last twenty four hours and we have, uh,

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Speaker 3: this is this is gonna be very interesting here Randy.

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Speaker 1: Do we still have? Randy and Jupiter, Florida.

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Speaker 3: He wants to wait on the constitutionality of the tariffs, actually,

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Speaker 3: which I find interesting. Randy in the lovely Jupiter, Florida, which,

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Speaker 3: by the way, I hear great homes for sale New Yorkers.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I'm sure that's true. What's up, Randy?

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Speaker 5: I live on the intracoastal, so please go Inland and Jupiter.

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Speaker 5: But yes, it's faird ice every day.

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Speaker 1: What you got for us?

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Speaker 5: Wanted to get some help here on the tariff faith

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Speaker 5: the other night club forty seven USA posted Eric Trump speaking,

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Speaker 5: and we were trying to figure this out. I thought

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Speaker 5: that the Constitution gave the I don't know in the Constitution.

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Speaker 5: Wasn't tariffs part of our original revenue source for the

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Speaker 5: federal government long before the Income Tax Amendment ever came about.

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Speaker 5: I thought tariffs was a legitimate revenue source. We're needing

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Speaker 5: some help to understand.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So that's a great question, and I'm sure that

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Speaker 2: tariffs were incredibly impactful. I mean, look, the Boston Tea Party,

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Speaker 2: uh in many ways was funded by tariffs, right, if

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Speaker 2: I'm remembering correctly, the cost that they were demanding that

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Speaker 2: the colonies pay in order to import tea and other substances. Well,

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Speaker 2: the stamp the Stamp the Stamp Act from the ap

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Speaker 2: AP American history, the intolerable acts my understanding, and I

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Speaker 2: will be one hundred percent transparent. I do not do

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Speaker 2: tariff law, and have never done tariff law is a

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Speaker 2: part of my legal practice. I do know a little

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Speaker 2: bit about maritime law, by the way, which is maybe

1005
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Speaker 2: somewhat closely interlocked at times. My understanding is that Trump

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Speaker 2: has cited specifically a nineteen seventies era law which was

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Speaker 2: passed that gives the president the authority to mandate tariffs

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Speaker 2: in times of emergency. My understanding of this dispute is

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Speaker 2: Trump has cited, among other things, I think two primary things,

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Speaker 2: and guys, I don't have the Wall Street Journal with

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Speaker 2: me this morning, but I was reading in their editorial

1012
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Speaker 2: breaking this down, if I remember correctly. One of them

1013
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Speaker 2: is the drug crisis fentanyl and the fact that it's

1014
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Speaker 2: been allowed to be brought into this country, and he

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Speaker 2: is saying that is a crisis based on the number

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Speaker 2: of people that are being killed. And then I think

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Speaker 2: there is an illegal immigration aspect associated with this as

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Speaker 2: well that he has used as the u and by

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Speaker 2: the way, Congress gave the authority to the president to

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Speaker 2: enact that those actions. The question, so far as I

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Speaker 2: understand it to be, and if there is a constitutional

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Speaker 2: scholar out there eight hundred and two A two two

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Speaker 2: eighty two who can pronounce and discuss this to a

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Speaker 2: better degree, the question that is at stake that the

1025
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Speaker 2: constitution that they debated this morning was has Trump exceeded

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Speaker 2: the authority of that nineteen seventies era statute in taking

1027
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Speaker 2: the power to mandate these emergency tariffs by basically taking

1028
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Speaker 2: away the power that otherwise would have resided with Congress.

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Speaker 2: So the argument against the tariffs is that Congress has

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Speaker 2: the power to levy the tariffs. Now, now maybe you're

1031
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 2: talking about back in the day, in the Articles of

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Speaker 2: Confederation day, in the colony days, and maybe even in

1033
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Speaker 2: the early days of the country. But the authority to

1034
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Speaker 2: enact tariffs, I believe, is with Congress. And one reason

1035
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 2: they wanted that was obviously separation of powers in general.

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Speaker 2: But I think rooted historically in the fact that tariffs

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Speaker 2: had been such a significant issue for the colonies back

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Speaker 2: in the day, they didn't want one unitary executive necessarily

1039
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Speaker 2: with the ability and all of you who took government

1040
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 2: back in the day, remember the power of the purse

1041
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Speaker 2: historically and constitutionally has resided with the Congress.

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Speaker 3: I think Professor Clay's history class would be a well

1043
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Speaker 3: a well attended seminar, I really do.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to swear that every single element of

1045
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Speaker 2: that is one hundred percent correct, but I think I

1046
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Speaker 2: got most of it correct. But it's a smart question.

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Speaker 2: But Randy is asking a deep historical question. Again, this

1048
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Speaker 2: is rooted in the authority of a nineteen seventy statute

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Speaker 2: that the Trump administration has cited as the authority for

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Speaker 2: the president unilaterally imposed tariffs across a broad swath of

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Speaker 2: the global trade in commerce.

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Speaker 3: Indeed, we have more coming in here on this one.

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Speaker 3: A lot of folks with a lot of thoughts. Where

1054
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Speaker 3: we hear a second ago VIP email from Lewis election

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Speaker 3: summary and one word hate a powerful emotion and it

1056
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 3: has been manipulated against core Americans. This just goes to

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Speaker 3: show the Democrat Party has become the party of hate.

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Speaker 3: That was the platform in each race, and unfortunately the

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Speaker 3: Democrat Party is taught to hate from an early age

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Speaker 3: or socially indoctored at embrace hate. Not one Democrat candidate

1061
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Speaker 3: had any solution for the people, just a platform to

1062
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Speaker 3: tear down and stop Trump. We need to take note

1063
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Speaker 3: and fully understand what is coming. History is repeating itself. Lewis,

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Speaker 3: I think that there are there's certainly a lot of

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Speaker 3: anger and rage and hate on the left. I think

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Speaker 3: that envy is one of the most unfortunately one of

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Speaker 3: the most powerful political mobilization tools that exist, especially for

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Speaker 3: people who are of the leftist, redistributive, collectivist, Marxist mindset

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Speaker 3: that you can always find people because the truth is

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Speaker 3: that the material conditions of the New Yorkers, even who

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Speaker 1: I have Mendani. Yesi's the best.

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Speaker 3: You know, They're they're all all about it and they

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Speaker 3: love pretending to be these radicals that care so much

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Speaker 3: about the poor. I mean, they're gonna live in the

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Speaker 3: highest income, most non diverse neighborhood they possibly can personally,

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Speaker 3: but they want everybody else to, you know, have like

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Speaker 3: community housing and no laws and no cops. Let me

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Speaker 3: step back in, Professor clay here a minute. Bock trade

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Speaker 3: deficits was what one of and finnyl were the two

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Speaker 3: emergencies that Trump cited nineteen seventy nine law that was passed.

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Speaker 3: Amy Cony Barrett talked about the challenges of returning these tariffs.

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Speaker 3: She said, how would the government refund billions of dollars

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Speaker 3: in tariffs? And the lawyer who is suing said representing

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Speaker 3: small businesses, said the court could make its ruling perspective only,

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Speaker 3: meaning no refunds would be necessary.

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Speaker 1: It would only start.

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Speaker 2: That's kind of what I said, it would start at

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Speaker 2: a certain date, and I do think that that is

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Speaker 2: that is a huge part of this as well. But again,

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Speaker 2: the question is what is an emergency?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: There are many different levels here, and this is kind

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Speaker 2: of a fun legal question, but what is an emergency?

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Speaker 2: And how long would an emergency last within the context

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Speaker 2: of this law that the Trump administration has cited as

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Speaker 2: the legal authority. John in San Diego, this seems like

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Speaker 2: it could be a super nerd call, but I'm kind

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Speaker 2: of impressed by it. John, you say you remember, well,

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Speaker 2: tell us your take here.

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Speaker 6: Okay, it's real simple. The original Constitution only provides for

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Speaker 6: imposts and X posts for taxes, and an impost is

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Speaker 6: a tax on imports, which is a terriff. An next

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Speaker 6: post is an excise tax on domestic goods.

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Speaker 1: So thank you for the call. Sorry to continue.

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Speaker 2: You're the Initially the government was designed to be small, uh,

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Speaker 2: and we did not get the authority for the income

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Speaker 2: tax it started. If I'm remembering correct, because I bet John,

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Speaker 2: you're going to be a nerd here and know this,

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Speaker 2: if I remember correctly, during the Civil War for Abraham

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Speaker 2: Lincoln to pay for the Civil War?

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Speaker 1: Am I correct in that?

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Speaker 6: And then it was canceled and permanent one started in

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Speaker 6: nineteen thirteen or the sixteenth Amendment.

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Speaker 2: Yes, okay, thank you for the call. A lot of

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Speaker 2: people don't know that book. There was no income tax

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Speaker 2: in the United States until the Civil War. Abraham Lincoln

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Speaker 2: has to pay for the Civil War. Once the war's over,

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Speaker 2: they do away with it. And then in the early

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Speaker 2: nineteen hundreds they said, hey, we're going to go back

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Speaker 2: to this, and all of you are going to pay us,

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Speaker 2: you know, thirty plus percent of everything you make.

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Speaker 3: This reminds me very much of the discussion here in

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Speaker 3: Florida about eliminating property for homesteaded properties. And I keep

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Speaker 3: seeing people say, but but where will the money come from.

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Speaker 3: There's plenty of money and the property taxes that would

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Speaker 3: you're talking about something like six percent of the of

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01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 3: the actual budget the state of Florida. But everyone gets

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01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 3: used to a tax and then thinks that that tax

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Speaker 3: is always going to be there. It's just a question

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Speaker 3: of what the number is. But this country operator just

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Speaker 3: fine without an income tax for a long time, and

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Speaker 3: you start to look at what's going on and where

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Speaker 3: the expenditures are going and increasingly, my friends, we're paying

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Speaker 3: for a massive welfare state, massive welfare state in this country.

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Speaker 3: We don't necessarily call it that, but that is what

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Speaker 3: is going on. Oh well, not only that. The challenge

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Speaker 3: is whenever you try to restrain the welfare straight state,

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Speaker 3: they're immediately.

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Speaker 2: The talking point is you're trying to cut trying to

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Speaker 2: cut benefits. You can never and this is the truth. Psychologically,

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01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 2: you can never give somebody something and then try to

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01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 2: take it back without them willing to basically be going

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01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 2: go to war on you. I mean, this is Look,

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Speaker 2: this is the story of social security. The reality is

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Speaker 2: social security relies on there always being way more young

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Speaker 2: people than there are old people because it's basically one

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Speaker 2: big pyramid scheme. And guess what's going to happen. We're

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Speaker 2: soon going to start having a lot more old people

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Speaker 2: than we are young people. So where does the money

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Speaker 2: for social security come from? And when you tell people that,

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01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 2: they say, well, no, no, no, no, no, this is like this

1155
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:52,320
Speaker 2: is my money. I've been giving you so security money

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Speaker 2: for everyone. Okay, but at some point in time, if

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Speaker 2: the demographics reverse, then you can't take seventy at least

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01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 2: in theory, you can't take seventy percent of what somebody

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01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 2: earns to pay it back out later. And by the way,

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Speaker 2: the fact that the government just takes huge amounts of

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Speaker 2: money from us buck If I die tomorrow and god

1162
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Speaker 2: forbid my wife dies tomorrow, and once my kids are eighteen,

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Speaker 2: I get no Social Security benefits.

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Speaker 1: They cease to exist.

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Speaker 2: So really you're just rolling the dice on how long

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Speaker 2: are you going to live as to whether you ever

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Speaker 2: get any of the money that the government takes for

1168
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 2: you from you on Social Security and at least you

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Speaker 2: have a possibility of getting that money back. All the

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Speaker 2: other money they take and you're never getting it back,

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Speaker 2: it's an awful Against your point, we just get used

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Speaker 2: to the idea of getting screwed by the government to

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Speaker 2: such an extent that nobody ever really takes a step

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Speaker 2: back and says, do we have to screw everybody like

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Speaker 2: this by the government? To your point, property taxes is ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: You buy a home, you work your whole life, and

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Speaker 2: you have to give the government a huge payment to

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Speaker 2: be able to stay in the home that.

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Speaker 1: You owe, that you own.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it really is unbelieve you're renting your home

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Speaker 3: from the government, and the government can take the government

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Speaker 3: is your landlord. If you don't pay your home fermies,

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Speaker 3: they will take your home. That you can never actually

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Speaker 3: just own a home that you can live in. You

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Speaker 3: have to always do this thing of continuing to be

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Speaker 3: extracted from You cannot just exist.

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Speaker 2: And older people who retire, it becomes brutal on them

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Speaker 2: because it's one thing to pay property taxes when you

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Speaker 2: and I are working age. I mean, I don't like it,

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Speaker 2: but at least I'm working. But if I'm seventy and

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Speaker 2: I've lived in the same house for thirty years, those

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Speaker 2: numbers guess what, they ain't going down. They're going to

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Speaker 2: keep going up. And it becomes more and more for

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Speaker 2: that are fortunate to own homes. You're nodding along, you're

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Speaker 2: saying this is crazy, but yes, we've just accepted that

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Speaker 2: this should happen. And again, the fact that we didn't

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Speaker 2: even have an income tax that was in existence until

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Speaker 2: the early nineteen hundred, it stuns a lot of people

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