Speaker 1: I am all inlet I am all in with Scott
Speaker 1: Patterson and I heart radio podcast. Let's pulled hands and
Speaker 1: let's pray. I'm grateful for all of you. Let's have
Speaker 1: a wonderful podcast. God willing Amen, Um, Scott, what, Scott?
Speaker 1: What before you start? What? Congratulations to tell everybody? Thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. Reunited and it feels so good
Speaker 1: like you and Triton are back together. We are Luke
Speaker 1: and Tristan or back again. You know, look, I was
Speaker 1: I was like I was easing into retirement with my
Speaker 1: cushy podcast job where I go to the gym remore.
Speaker 1: You know, It's like people don't understand. You guys are
Speaker 1: working your tushies off putting this thing together. I'm recording
Speaker 1: a couple of hours a week. I'm editing a little bit,
Speaker 1: but I'm not working as hard as you guys. But um, anyway,
Speaker 1: it's it was like the It's a perfect job for me,
Speaker 1: in a perfect situation, you know, doing riding the waves
Speaker 1: in Baabu, I'm swimming with dolphins in the morning, I'm
Speaker 1: doing my paddle boarding, I'm doing all kinds of stuff
Speaker 1: and being a dad. And then all of a sudden
Speaker 1: ba boom. I got a phone call from the manager
Speaker 1: saying somebody, some executive producer was watching Gilmore with the
Speaker 1: daughter and the daughter said, that's him, look at him.
Speaker 1: So next thing I know, I'm on a zoom call
Speaker 1: with this this woman um named Romo Roth, who's wonderful
Speaker 1: and brilliant all that and uh she wrote, she she wrote,
Speaker 1: an executive produces a virgin river, which is a which
Speaker 1: is a big don't know, I don't. I never heard
Speaker 1: of it. I don't. Oh, I know, I found out right.
Speaker 1: So she she said, I want you to be this,
Speaker 1: I in this in this show. And I said, let's
Speaker 1: sit down and have lunch to talk about it. We did,
Speaker 1: and I you know, we hit it off. And and
Speaker 1: so at that point, you did not know that your
Speaker 1: co star would be Chad Michael Murray. I had no idea.
Speaker 1: I had no idea. My manager told me and I said, boy,
Speaker 1: that's that's going to be quite a thing. That will
Speaker 1: be quite a thing, won't it. Yes, because we cared,
Speaker 1: we care about you, But when we found out it
Speaker 1: was Chad Michael Murray, we cared a whole lot more.
Speaker 1: You know, I can, I can, I can you know
Speaker 1: what I and I take that as a compliment. So
Speaker 1: because I made him who he is. No, I didn't nothing.
Speaker 1: I had nothing to do it. Um let's we could
Speaker 1: twist a story around and say, you know, I put
Speaker 1: in a good word for some of my friends and
Speaker 1: I mentioned Chad Scott Patterson would not do this TV
Speaker 1: show Chad Michael Murray. So in the podcast a million
Speaker 1: times like what if Tristan would have stayed one Tree
Speaker 1: Hill wouldn't have happened, and Tristan would have been with
Speaker 1: the you know series the whole time, which you easily
Speaker 1: could have seen. It's like like more Tristan, more Tristan. Now.
Speaker 1: They came to me and they said, listen, you can
Speaker 1: be in our show if you bring one more Gilmore
Speaker 1: guy with it. So I said, so, I called you
Speaker 1: unk and he said you I'll do it. So I
Speaker 1: said what about un And they said, I said what
Speaker 1: about Sean? They go nah. I said, Chad, Chad, you
Speaker 1: were on the podcast, please can you and he said yeah.
Speaker 1: They wanted some not you're not hunky, but they wanted
Speaker 1: the haughty hunky Chad Michael Murray. We love them. Well.
Speaker 1: They wanted somebody that you know wasn't like almost in
Speaker 1: a wheelchair. Yeah, help out the rating. So somebody who
Speaker 1: had hairs that was that always helps stop If anyone's worried,
Speaker 1: we're still doing the podcast, even though Scott is going
Speaker 1: to be working. He's don't worry. Look, man, those of
Speaker 1: you that were hoping we were going somewhere this this
Speaker 1: production and it's called Sullivan's Crossing. It's based on the
Speaker 1: Robin car New York Times US selling author authors and
Speaker 1: she's been doing it since the seventies and massive amount
Speaker 1: of books, huge worldwide following. So the Sullivan's Crossings novels,
Speaker 1: I think there's five of them, you know, uh, five
Speaker 1: or six of them. So they're making a series out
Speaker 1: of it. So and so it's it's borrowed from the books.
Speaker 1: It's not dead on, but it's borrowed from the books,
Speaker 1: the tones, everything, so it's so cool. So it's cool.
Speaker 1: I've read six scripts so far and there it's really exciting.
Speaker 1: It's really fun stuff. So anyway, yeah, so I that look,
Speaker 1: our deal, you know, the podcast was the number one
Speaker 1: priority in our deal when we went back at them
Speaker 1: and saying, listen, he's doing his podcast on on location.
Speaker 1: You know, from where he's staying, and uh, that's just
Speaker 1: the way it is. Well, will be perfectly happy if
Speaker 1: you bring CMM over for a couple of guests spots
Speaker 1: on the pot. I think I'm down the hall from them.
Speaker 1: I love. Yeah, I told I've told him today. I said,
Speaker 1: you gotta you know, you gotta slide into my my
Speaker 1: place and uh from down the hall, and we'll podcast together,
Speaker 1: you guys. Yeah, we'll just maybe host an episode together,
Speaker 1: were not. You know, it's gonna be fun. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be a lot of fun. So, yeah, I leave pretty soon.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna my family is gonna follow me up there
Speaker 1: after my son gets out of school, and we'll we'll
Speaker 1: just bring your bring your microphone. That's all we care about. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I've got to I'm up just four microphones covering me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's exciting. So I'm very excited about it. Life is
Speaker 1: so unpredictable, isn't it? And oh my god, you guys,
Speaker 1: Scott literally said when we started this podcast, He's like, no,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be so fun because I'm I'm probably
Speaker 1: gonna act anymore. And I'm like, what really? Not? Not
Speaker 1: out of not that I had not that I had
Speaker 1: no desire to act anymore. It's just like there's no opportunities,
Speaker 1: you know. So here it is here, it is anyway, Um,
Speaker 1: lots of fun. Back to Gilmore. We're gonna do uh.
Speaker 1: Season three, episode ten, that I'll do pig And I
Speaker 1: am Scott Patterson. This is the Eye am all in
Speaker 1: podcast I Hurt Radio, one of them productions. I am
Speaker 1: joined by Tara s Daniel Romo, Amy Sugarman. Tara, you
Speaker 1: want to do the way? Who's doing this synopsis? Daniel
Speaker 1: Daniels taken away. I'm more than happy. If Tara wants
Speaker 1: to read the synopsis, you can go. She's got her
Speaker 1: She's got her own segment. Now, Tara, leave the synopsis
Speaker 1: to me. Alright, Okay, So, like Scott said, Season three,
Speaker 1: episode ten, That'll do Pig Er date January four, two
Speaker 1: thousand three. It's winter finally in stars Hollow, and a
Speaker 1: surprise visit from Grandma Tricks makes Emily uneasy. Dean and
Speaker 1: Rory decided to be friends, while Jess pretends like he
Speaker 1: approves of this new decision. Plus when to Carnival makes
Speaker 1: for a strange night out for Rory and Jess and
Speaker 1: Dean and his little Sister Clara Awkward City. I feel
Speaker 1: like I forgot about this episode. Like I was walking,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah, Well we're coming off of
Speaker 1: those two huge Kenny Taga episodes. With that, We're just
Speaker 1: so massive. I think there was something else in between,
Speaker 1: but so this was more just a regular episode, right right? Oh,
Speaker 1: I love this cute. I like this one. I've seen
Speaker 1: this one many many times. I mean same, but it's
Speaker 1: just like you said, it was all those two big
Speaker 1: ones where it's like the dance and that pretty sad
Speaker 1: to see the pumpkins gone in the snow appear, I
Speaker 1: was quite thrilled. It really made me happy to not
Speaker 1: see the pumpkins for the eighth episode. Did it don't cold? Scott?
Speaker 1: Were you cold watching it? They? Really? I did? I did.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to be in the snow. You know,
Speaker 1: we're out here in eighty degrees and I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: I don't want to see this now. I know. It's
Speaker 1: so funny. Sometimes we line up directly, but right now
Speaker 1: we're way off because it's full summer and it's full winter.
Speaker 1: Don't get me, don't get me wrong, I like my snow.
Speaker 1: It's just like I want it in winter, I don't
Speaker 1: want it in summer. So they were fully beanies, gloves, scarves,
Speaker 1: like they really were like using the wardrobe to accentuate
Speaker 1: like it's cold. When you know these guys were shooting
Speaker 1: them heat. I was gonna say, how funny, how hot
Speaker 1: was roaring that beanie like for half the episode. So
Speaker 1: we're talking a hundred and five in burbank on black
Speaker 1: asphalt in the middle of August. Yeah, it's like when
Speaker 1: everybody's like, uh, you know, off in CenTra, pain in
Speaker 1: the shade, anything to make it feel cooler. Like do
Speaker 1: they well they can't outdoors, they can indoors. They have
Speaker 1: you know, they have air conditioning indoors. They well, they
Speaker 1: have a generator they bring in with this huge snaky thing,
Speaker 1: this huge fat hose and they try to pipe in
Speaker 1: air and it works. It works. Do people get sweaty
Speaker 1: because it's so hot and they're wearing like eight two
Speaker 1: layers and they have to get like sweated down. I
Speaker 1: sweat for seven solid years. You didn't need to really
Speaker 1: work out, you just you just lost weight. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: It's so true because it doesn't get that cold even
Speaker 1: if you were shooting in November it's still seventy. Let
Speaker 1: me let me think it was never seventy in Burbank ever.
Speaker 1: I mean the cool cooling down to you know, it's
Speaker 1: like but I'll tell you when when you get to
Speaker 1: where I you put on the long sleep thermal. It's
Speaker 1: it's already it's already ninety degrees and it's six am, right,
Speaker 1: So you what does brand to have waiting for? You
Speaker 1: get the long sleep thermal. When you get the you've
Speaker 1: got the flannel on top of that, and you have
Speaker 1: the winter army jacket with gloves, with gloves and a
Speaker 1: scarf r exactly thick woolen socks. It makes me want
Speaker 1: to gag. I don't know if it's my age, but
Speaker 1: I'm hot, like all the time. I'm trying to be
Speaker 1: professional Danna wearing full like shorts on the bar. I'm
Speaker 1: the same way. I'm always hot. I'm my motors R.
Speaker 1: I sleep with the windows open in the in her
Speaker 1: because I gotta I gotta ice it out. And my
Speaker 1: wife is like, what are you doing? Are you the undead?
Speaker 1: What's happening? Are you? What's going on with you? And
Speaker 1: I'm liked anyone ever like pass out her faint because
Speaker 1: they were so hot and just bull winter like a
Speaker 1: full parka. I think I think people did. I think
Speaker 1: there were one or two occasions where somebody had to
Speaker 1: take a name or they had to win to pause.
Speaker 1: It was. It was hot as heck man, hot as
Speaker 1: Hate's over there, all right back to it. So we
Speaker 1: learned that Lane gets to rehearse in the garage. We
Speaker 1: don't ever see them rehearsing in the garage, but we
Speaker 1: learned that Loria is going to give them the garage,
Speaker 1: which have we ever seen Rory and Lorels garage. That
Speaker 1: was a nice scene because Lauren put her arm around
Speaker 1: her and there they were going on. She's like, she's
Speaker 1: like the other daughter. Yeah, it was a cool scene.
Speaker 1: That was a nice We saw a great view of
Speaker 1: the town. Okay, that's like a real walk and talk. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was very nice, very nice. And then the following
Speaker 1: scene was my only scene in the thing. And no,
Speaker 1: not yet, not quite yet, I think, didn't we have
Speaker 1: to go to school first? We go to school first, right,
Speaker 1: class with a doodling Paris? Was anyone else, like, I
Speaker 1: don't know? Calculus, Yeah, I vividly remember calculus class though,
Speaker 1: like I remember, I think I tapped out. I don't
Speaker 1: think I did to us. I was a journalism major,
Speaker 1: so the second I like didn't have to take math,
Speaker 1: I was like, we're done and we're taking the simple
Speaker 1: bath and getting out. Did you do calculus, Scott? I
Speaker 1: did in my first year of college, and I didn't
Speaker 1: have the trig background at all, so I was completely screwed.
Speaker 1: So I taught myself trigonometry at night. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: And then I and then I got to be in
Speaker 1: the calculus class. Danielle, you took calculus. Yeah, everyone has
Speaker 1: to high school. High school tapped out. I did this
Speaker 1: is I'm done with them. If you're doing a peak math, yeah,
Speaker 1: you'll do calculus in high school. But I definitely did calculus.
Speaker 1: I know. The only thing I could get from what
Speaker 1: that teacher was saying was I heard ex equals pie
Speaker 1: and then the rest. I wonder if we could get
Speaker 1: a mathematician to say like that was all real, Like
Speaker 1: it was, Oh, I'm sure, I'm sure, sure, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: sure it was okay. So what do we think of
Speaker 1: Paris just being got goo goof it? I love it
Speaker 1: because we all did that. We all had the notebooks
Speaker 1: with Danielle insert last name of the person you really
Speaker 1: really like and like, you know, like all the doodles
Speaker 1: you did that when you were like crushing on somebody,
Speaker 1: you had that in a notebook. Who was your crash? God?
Speaker 1: Probably a lot each year it was different. I don't know. Kids, Scott,
Speaker 1: can you remember you're like high school crash your like
Speaker 1: first girlfriend and my first girlfriend? Um, gosh, no was
Speaker 1: her name? Laura? No? My for my high school crush? Gosh?
Speaker 1: Now we went after you know what we went after?
Speaker 1: That Always a weird question to ask because like I'm
Speaker 1: thirty two years old and I still don't want to
Speaker 1: say who I had a crush on it. Yeah, everybody, Hello,
Speaker 1: Dan Richardson, I can't. I can't say it about Dylan Smith,
Speaker 1: Danielle and Scott do it? Come on. But all I
Speaker 1: can remember is when when we all got our freshman
Speaker 1: year of high school, the girls that we had used
Speaker 1: to date and sixth grade or fifth grade or junior
Speaker 1: high or whatever, all of a sudden they're going out
Speaker 1: with seniors and they're going out. And then when we
Speaker 1: were sophomores there, some of them are are going out
Speaker 1: with college guys and we're just these little skinny gnomes,
Speaker 1: you know, sitting in the lunch room going what's going
Speaker 1: on with us? So so yeah, the senior and junior
Speaker 1: guys rated all our girls, right, and so we had nothing.
Speaker 1: So I I swear to God and I devised the
Speaker 1: plan my best friends. I said, we're gonna go after
Speaker 1: at our sophomore party, We're going after junior girls. And
Speaker 1: they all said yes, and we had a real hodown.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you we had a hooting. Nanny barn Burner, Danielle,
Speaker 1: you really will not admit. I mean, Kyle Nolan was
Speaker 1: my my boyfriend. Kyle got to Kyle, if you're listening,
Speaker 1: he speaking of prusious. How funny when Lane's like, do
Speaker 1: I want Dave Dskey to see me? I keep saying
Speaker 1: his name wrong, how do you say it? Okay? Uh?
Speaker 1: The band uniform and they're all no one to den
Speaker 1: and I said ten. But all that was just very
Speaker 1: cute scenes. Yeah, and she spent Christmas break. Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: a lot to dissect and that was insane. Let's talk
Speaker 1: about it because in high school, that's what I said, Right,
Speaker 1: you can't do that. You can't just go visit somebody's
Speaker 1: family for weeks. But then again, like Paris's. Paris's parents
Speaker 1: weren't really involved, so that's very valid, very valid. But
Speaker 1: I love how she painted the scene with like the
Speaker 1: egg nog and the twelve ft Christmas tree, and how
Speaker 1: the place smelled like cinnamon, and the mom bought her gift.
Speaker 1: Like it just seemed it seems like what Paris has
Speaker 1: been wanting all like her whole life. But I did
Speaker 1: think it was weird. I'm like a high school girl
Speaker 1: with a boy. What she was trash in the eight
Speaker 1: Days of Hanukah to what did she says? It was?
Speaker 1: So she goes, want to waste the time? You just
Speaker 1: kill in one night. I think it's interesting that Francie
Speaker 1: is really the villain now because Paris and Rory are
Speaker 1: getting along and becoming friends, so they needed that. We
Speaker 1: did miss one detail, Jamie. He said that he loved her.
Speaker 1: I feel like that we have to definitely say that
Speaker 1: right like that. I was like, oh my gosh, this
Speaker 1: is paris Is first love, you know, so she is
Speaker 1: justified in being doodle doodling meeting canceling Paris. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: I fear they're headed for a downfall. Oh no, well,
Speaker 1: of course you have to factor that in that's baked
Speaker 1: into the price. I was hoping it would last at
Speaker 1: least a season, at least last this season. You'll see
Speaker 1: I mean how I mean this. We we had this
Speaker 1: guy on right. How many episodes did he do? He
Speaker 1: did too? No, No, he's around. He's around for a
Speaker 1: while because he comes in and goes. He comes and goes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he's not leaving us. But I do have one
Speaker 1: nitpick same, I have two beefs. The shots, did you
Speaker 1: guys not notice the shot of chiltern and the in
Speaker 1: again are like frozen photos. I did notice the chiltern
Speaker 1: all this time. I didn't notice it. I did not
Speaker 1: know neither. You guys need to notice because it's like
Speaker 1: now that I've noticed it, it's jars me. It's so
Speaker 1: I only noticed because you mentioned it last week. Then
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have noticed. No if it if it was bad,
Speaker 1: I would have noticed it. Hm, look again, you know
Speaker 1: me not much because it's our first time watching it.
Speaker 1: Scott that we don't like, Yeah, I didn't. I didn't.
Speaker 1: Well now like the down pillow, I'm eagalized for it.
Speaker 1: I'm like, have your time. I also love that Emily
Speaker 1: gave the monkey lamp a shoutout, but we'll get to that. So, Scott,
Speaker 1: so far in this episode, how are you feeling about it?
Speaker 1: I'm feeling pretty good and it you know when, uh,
Speaker 1: I mean actually pretty good. Yeah. I thought it was
Speaker 1: a little bit off. I thought the pace was off
Speaker 1: a little bit. It wasn't your normal. But but I
Speaker 1: think we did need a breather. And I think Tara
Speaker 1: made a good point, and you made a good point
Speaker 1: about how I've had these huge episodes and now we
Speaker 1: need kind of arrest, we need to just take a breather,
Speaker 1: And this was that, right, It was that, And uh,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Every time that Tricksy shows up, I
Speaker 1: just don't like I don't find it funny. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't find that whole stick funny. I don't like her.
Speaker 1: I don't like the character, you know, I think it's
Speaker 1: funny because of the way Emily acts. I just I
Speaker 1: just wish Emily would would kick her chair over and
Speaker 1: like stomp on her when she's like, I'm not done.
Speaker 1: She got even right, like five like five things in
Speaker 1: a row, like one green vean. And I like it
Speaker 1: when everybody's getting along and there's still some wit and
Speaker 1: a little bit of attention, but they're sort of trying
Speaker 1: to get beyond it and sort of be a little
Speaker 1: kumbaya trix Trixie shows up, but it was silly. But
Speaker 1: when Tricks comes to Laurelize and they all follow her,
Speaker 1: there's nothing said, but it was Yeah, I thought that
Speaker 1: was kind of stupid. Yeah, it just took me right
Speaker 1: out of the whole piece, because it's like, that is
Speaker 1: so just manufactured. It's like, not how any of them
Speaker 1: would behave I agree with and I and I get
Speaker 1: it there. You know, it was an homage to something, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, Amy and Dance all in a hundred year
Speaker 1: old movie or something, and then let's put it in
Speaker 1: I it's it's got to be drawn from something, and
Speaker 1: they wanted to get it in there, and it was
Speaker 1: and it was funny. Even though you're right, it took
Speaker 1: you out immediately, you're like, wait, so okay, going back,
Speaker 1: going back. So we're back at the inn and we
Speaker 1: see there's like a meeting going on and it was
Speaker 1: the same room where they had the Bracebridge dinner. And
Speaker 1: then something bad happened. Michelle messed up something. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: he was speaking just some Polish speaking people and he
Speaker 1: said something offensive and we don't know what figure out
Speaker 1: what it was. Somebody will know. Somebody will know. It
Speaker 1: was Hungarian, right, Hungarian? Yeah, it was Hungarian. I thought
Speaker 1: you said it was Polish. Hungarians speaks, you know, I
Speaker 1: have a buddy that's Hungarian. Maybe I should Can you
Speaker 1: pop them a text? I don't think to put the
Speaker 1: time into it. I will say laurelized turtleneck sweater was amazing.
Speaker 1: And then we get on the phone with Emily, who
Speaker 1: was wearing a Barbery sweater and a pony tap. My god,
Speaker 1: I had that mark down to it was like that
Speaker 1: Berbery satter. I want it now, like I want to
Speaker 1: wear it. You have to like hunt the internet because
Speaker 1: and her ponytail was so cute. And so then we
Speaker 1: find out it's Richard's. Oh. Producer Hannah Scott reveal what
Speaker 1: Michelle said. We didn't even have to text your Hungarian friend.
Speaker 1: We found it. The translation of what Michelle said is
Speaker 1: your country is full of ugly people. That is not
Speaker 1: something you want to say to a room full of
Speaker 1: It's such a Michelle thing to say, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: that is funny. That is funny. So yeah, that was
Speaker 1: sort of just a little bit, I guess to get
Speaker 1: us to that the it's the sixtieth birthday for Richard
Speaker 1: right now, we have the scene at home at Localized house. First, No,
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying that the whole point of that
Speaker 1: scene at the end was just for Emily to call,
Speaker 1: so we learned that it's right right. Okay, So now
Speaker 1: we're at Loyalized house. Talk to me what you guys
Speaker 1: felt about Dean and the tighter and the dropping the
Speaker 1: stuff off? Ouch. Oh yeah, that's rough. You know, I
Speaker 1: think Dean's kind of playing dirty now and I'm I'm
Speaker 1: here for it. I like it. I like his style. Man,
Speaker 1: He's like he's being smooth. It's like pay you know,
Speaker 1: paybacks are a being you know what paybacks. Because Jess
Speaker 1: was like so obvious with wanting Rory, and now Dean
Speaker 1: is playing the game, but he's really like slick with
Speaker 1: it it off making her miss him, seeing her asking
Speaker 1: her for coffee, like all these things. He's so confident
Speaker 1: all of the stuff too. Yeah, and I feel like
Speaker 1: he's kind of like, you know, I guess I got
Speaker 1: nothing to lose now because he's already lost Rory. So
Speaker 1: in like my the way that I'm perceiving it is.
Speaker 1: He's kind of like, I'm going to show you now
Speaker 1: what you're missing. And you know, isn't it amazing how
Speaker 1: these guys get incredibly insecure once they get before they're cool, sexy, unattainable, interesting, deep,
Speaker 1: mysterious guys when they're with her. There, you know, Dean
Speaker 1: was flipping out all the time. Now Jess is flipping out. Jesse.
Speaker 1: It's like they've swapped souls intention to that with the
Speaker 1: writers or the creators, like there is something there. Well,
Speaker 1: they're trying to push the narrative that rories all that,
Speaker 1: and everybody's flipping out over and she is right, No,
Speaker 1: she's not perfect, but she's she's quite the catch. I mean,
Speaker 1: she's she's somebody you want and you want to protect her,
Speaker 1: and she's you know, she's she's a delightful presence. So
Speaker 1: who wouldn't want an angel on their shoulder like that?
Speaker 1: So right, Yeah, And they're probably trying to show some
Speaker 1: I mean, we know Jesse's flawed, but even more like
Speaker 1: flaws that aren't about being a bad boy. You know,
Speaker 1: maybe he's got a little bit more more vulnerability and
Speaker 1: like insecurity inside of him too. Well, Yeah, he was
Speaker 1: okay being a kid and a punky kid who was
Speaker 1: all full of bluster. But now he stepped up into
Speaker 1: the real world where he's gotta you know, there's he's
Speaker 1: got to be vulnerable and any working out too good
Speaker 1: for him. You know. Do you all think that if
Speaker 1: Dean would have been this Dean, because he's very reminiscent
Speaker 1: of the Dean at the beginning of the series, would
Speaker 1: Rory have ever broken up? No, he lost his edge.
Speaker 1: He was all like Smiley all the time and I
Speaker 1: miss you, and you know he really he just went that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he just wimped out. And yeah, if he'd if he'd
Speaker 1: have kept an edge, he'd have been okay. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: did think LAURAA got some cool mom points in that
Speaker 1: kitchen scene, well first of all the spider things. Later, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but when she says to Rory like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I don't mean to interrupt, but really, please
Speaker 1: tell me what you think, Laura Gilmore afraid of a spider?
Speaker 1: Are you serious? Yeah? It didn't work for me. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: There's there's a couple of things that bug me about
Speaker 1: this episode. Trixie was one to walk around the house
Speaker 1: with her. It was another Emily being all freaked out
Speaker 1: about her all the time. I don't get that, you know, um,
Speaker 1: I like that sometimes it's not all perfect. And then
Speaker 1: you know Laura, like Gilmore, you know who you know?
Speaker 1: Come on, did it seem like they threw a couple
Speaker 1: of things in there for like comedy? Because it was funny.
Speaker 1: I agree with you, Like I doubt she's afraid of spiders.
Speaker 1: She's not really afraid of anything, but it was funny.
Speaker 1: I kind of believed it. I hate spiders. It also
Speaker 1: was a really sweet moment for Laura, Lae and Dean.
Speaker 1: You really see how they are. They are they are good,
Speaker 1: they are cool. But but how much better would it
Speaker 1: have been if Lauraae kind of mocked that old trope
Speaker 1: about women being afraid of mice and spiders and they
Speaker 1: need a man to rescue them. You know, this kind
Speaker 1: of stuff wouldn't have been funny if she just went
Speaker 1: and go a spider and then bam, killed it and
Speaker 1: don't come back. Derekle when I think Dean says like,
Speaker 1: what are you? What were you gonna do if I
Speaker 1: didn't come in? And she's also thinking of just giving
Speaker 1: in the kitchen you know. I've done that before, where
Speaker 1: I see like a bug in my house. I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know what, for the rest of the day, I'm
Speaker 1: just not going into the Yeah, that's that's fine, it's okay.
Speaker 1: The worst is when you find one in your bedroom
Speaker 1: and you're like about to go to bed and you're like,
Speaker 1: what's it? Like, it's up the rest of the night.
Speaker 1: My son walked into the media room where I was
Speaker 1: massage and having my feet massage because I have a
Speaker 1: foot massage and I was watching this episode device not
Speaker 1: like a person a person. Yeah, I have a special
Speaker 1: person on called all Times Scot's Paycheck. No, my son
Speaker 1: walks in. He goes, Daddy, Daddy, there's a there's a
Speaker 1: grasshopper in the there's a grasshopper in the bathroom downstairs.
Speaker 1: But they wanted downstairs, and I'm like, you see me
Speaker 1: what I'm doing here, I'm busy. I said, go kill
Speaker 1: the thing. Come on, step up. You're not supposed to
Speaker 1: kill grasshoppers, isn't it bad luck? Oh? No, you no,
Speaker 1: bring mantis. I thought it's a grasshopper. I don't kill
Speaker 1: spiders either. I pick them up, let him out, let
Speaker 1: them out. Well, I think they do something, and he
Speaker 1: told me, he told me he attempted to capture it
Speaker 1: and and rehabilitate it. Actually, no, he told he told
Speaker 1: me he attempted to capture it, but it was not successful.
Speaker 1: Have seen a ton of late caterpillars. Is it caterpillar season?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if there's a such season.
Speaker 1: There's a butterfly season. I think in California with with
Speaker 1: no rain for years, it's the season of the caterpillar
Speaker 1: every season. So back on lor L, I thought it
Speaker 1: was a very cool mom moment where she's like, what
Speaker 1: are you feeling right now? Are you weirded out? It's
Speaker 1: okay if you're weird without and it's okay that it
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you don't like Jess, if you're feeling something
Speaker 1: right now. I just thought, yeah, could definitely good insight, right,
Speaker 1: good talk, right, good wisdom, good mom wisdom. Yes, absolutely,
Speaker 1: and you could tell that Rory like she does feel something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like she couldn't open the box she wanted to and
Speaker 1: then just closed it again. Yeah, there's a little sadness there,
Speaker 1: and also like that that he got out of it
Speaker 1: right away. He's just playing. He's doing so well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like, here, here, do with your feelings. Now I'm
Speaker 1: giving your stuff back. He's coming across so cool and
Speaker 1: at the carnival, he's such a cool brother. It's like,
Speaker 1: what's not to like about? Yeah? That you see that.
Speaker 1: That's another time that he was just playing at smooth.
Speaker 1: He's like, you know what, I'll get you your snow
Speaker 1: cone because Jess isn't like I'll do this. Rory is
Speaker 1: the one that had to win the game because Jess couldn't,
Speaker 1: you know, like for a little stuffed animal, Like all
Speaker 1: these little things that just kind of added up leading
Speaker 1: us to the how great? How great was Scout Taylor?
Speaker 1: What's her name? So Compton? Scout Taylor Compton? Yeah, she
Speaker 1: was perfect. Why is your hair stand up? Do you
Speaker 1: watch it? How can it stand up that way? That's weird.
Speaker 1: She's like the spunky, annoying sister but just poking him
Speaker 1: and like, you don't even know if she knows what's
Speaker 1: going down, but if maybe he teed her up And
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, I'm trying to get Rory back.
Speaker 1: Be real annoying to this dude. What is his last
Speaker 1: name in the show, Dean? What do we know this Forster.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you the Forrester kids stole this episode for me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they really did. I mean Dean Dean shined and Taylor
Speaker 1: Shine what's her name in the show? Sorry? And also
Speaker 1: it's rig Galski since we're on pronunciation, r y g
Speaker 1: a l s k I, Dave red Galski, hang on,
Speaker 1: let me get a pen. A lot of people write
Speaker 1: it Rugowski. I thought it was Galski r y g
Speaker 1: a l s k I. Okay, So then we we
Speaker 1: we cut to a lot of making out Jess and
Speaker 1: Rory just making out, walking and kissing. I didn't like it.
Speaker 1: I didn't either. I'm with you on that. I didn't
Speaker 1: like it, and you know what, Rory didn't like it either.
Speaker 1: It was too much. Yeah, I agree, Yeah it was
Speaker 1: a little too Yeah. I mean also like it was
Speaker 1: just weird, like walking and kissing. I was like, what,
Speaker 1: who does that? I wanted to be like, Jess, this
Speaker 1: isn't Shane. Yeah, it was very Shane. That was like, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love when a moment where he puts his arm
Speaker 1: hand on her back and I'm like, oh, milow, I
Speaker 1: get all mixed up. If I love Milo, do I
Speaker 1: love Jess? What do I love? What it gets your
Speaker 1: milo love? I think so yeah, it was it was
Speaker 1: like octopus like it's like, dude, go back in your aquarium.
Speaker 1: What are you doing. I just couldn't get over the beanie,
Speaker 1: like I was like, can we take it up? Like
Speaker 1: I just felt like it was so hot, God, please
Speaker 1: take all this beanie. And they talked about how they
Speaker 1: have good teeth because if they had braces, it would
Speaker 1: be a real book. That was another comment. I was like, right,
Speaker 1: right right, why why why why why did you guys
Speaker 1: notice those So they're hooking up arm around kiss kiss kiss.
Speaker 1: It was very complicated seeing car crosses. They had to
Speaker 1: just miss the car. Was yeah, that's not that big
Speaker 1: a deal, trust me. That seems like cooreography. Okay, now
Speaker 1: we get to the diner for Scott Slash. Luke's like
Speaker 1: two lines and thank you, thank you. You get the
Speaker 1: same payment either way either way. I was laughing on
Speaker 1: that one. Let me tell you, kicking my feet up
Speaker 1: on the on the sofa comes out because you have
Speaker 1: many episodes where are like literally have thousands of lines.
Speaker 1: So okay, so gloralized there and she's opening her crappy
Speaker 1: presence showing not opening, you know, get taken out of
Speaker 1: the bag, her crappy presence for Richard and showing Rory
Speaker 1: and they were bad the like where don't we go?
Speaker 1: Like what was she thinking buying these gifts? Like he's
Speaker 1: actually going to use any of these? She hit Macy's
Speaker 1: for that, Scott. If you could have a scale, a
Speaker 1: coin disorder or the tie, which one would you pick?
Speaker 1: A scale? What was she got? Se weight? He has
Speaker 1: weight like a scale, like a like I weigh a
Speaker 1: hundred and whatever pounds? Well, I don't wear bow ties. Um,
Speaker 1: I don't need a coin sorder. I just put all
Speaker 1: this change anymore. Now I have like these giant bottles
Speaker 1: of change. I don't know what to do with him.
Speaker 1: Change went away things change for change. What was the
Speaker 1: gift at the end, it's like made noise or something
Speaker 1: that they say this light up and makes noise, and
Speaker 1: it was like, just don't think I think it, ladies.
Speaker 1: I think it further demonstrates how um much of a
Speaker 1: chasm there is between father and daughter. She doesn't know
Speaker 1: doesn't know him well enough to buy him an appropriate gift,
Speaker 1: you know. So the Rory nailed it, she called it,
Speaker 1: and she asked him, I know, what did you? What
Speaker 1: did you? What did Rory? Now? What did she get?
Speaker 1: She got the chuck Berry vinyl. Oh yeah, because because
Speaker 1: she has a relationship with actually talk lovingly, they talk
Speaker 1: and they share, right. She was like, I have a
Speaker 1: list of things he wanted. Now, Scott, you're not Your
Speaker 1: lines were not a plenty, but the one you had
Speaker 1: was pretty good, you said. You know, if you get
Speaker 1: the big bottle, it usually comes with a top bag
Speaker 1: and soap on a rope. There you go, just light
Speaker 1: up the room and leave. There you go, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1: That's why I get the big dollars. Thank you very much.
Speaker 1: Back to the trailer. Thanks for coming. I worked a
Speaker 1: whole hour today. I'm out of here see in ten days.
Speaker 1: So okay. So then we go to the bookstore and
Speaker 1: we see Rory in front of Stars Hollow Books and
Speaker 1: she literally crashes into Dean as he was admiring the
Speaker 1: new benches in the square leather jacket. Was adorable. So
Speaker 1: then what did you guys think that they went to
Speaker 1: get coffee? I knew that. I knew the way he
Speaker 1: knocked into her. It was a setup. I know. It
Speaker 1: was so clever and I thought, boy is looking at
Speaker 1: benches right right, I was looking at the benches, like
Speaker 1: what great line? The great wasn't a great line though,
Speaker 1: it's a small town thing, like oh look the new
Speaker 1: bench like yeah, oh god, yeah, exactly, big city kid,
Speaker 1: what a small town guys do? They look at the
Speaker 1: bench and they bump into the decks. You know that
Speaker 1: she's so nervous and awkward, like the window. Knew that
Speaker 1: Jess was going to be She knew Jess would be mad.
Speaker 1: I think that was in her head the whole time.
Speaker 1: Was anyone else nervous that Jess was going to walk by? Said?
Speaker 1: I was like, don't sit by the window, use the
Speaker 1: bathroom table. Just showcase in front of Weston. We're sitting together.
Speaker 1: That made me so nervous. Yeah, I kept he heard
Speaker 1: works there and we're all like, okay, we don't even
Speaker 1: think it's weird. This many jobs. So Scott, yeah, what
Speaker 1: do you think about all the just Dean and Rory?
Speaker 1: What are you thinking about Dean and Rory? Um? You
Speaker 1: know it was my favorite part of the episode. Uh,
Speaker 1: that whole Dean's you know, working his game now and
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, this is something I can watch and enjoy.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm invested in this and I like what
Speaker 1: I'm seeing, and I, you know, I see how good
Speaker 1: Jared is and and how much he's funny he's having
Speaker 1: and they're giving him something to really chew on now
Speaker 1: instead of being I don't like this guy around you,
Speaker 1: you know, and like being he had to be the
Speaker 1: woosey for what two full seasons two and a half seasons?
Speaker 1: Now he gets to be like a dude. Right. Did
Speaker 1: anybody also notice that Jared looks like hotter? Yeah? Whoa
Speaker 1: dean really really glowed up, like looks great right now
Speaker 1: that he's like now that he's in, now he's available
Speaker 1: and he's being cool. He's looking he's looking mighty smoking,
Speaker 1: and I'm a dude, you know, really is going to
Speaker 1: go to college. Sorry, I was gonna say, I really
Speaker 1: want a custard pie after this? What is this so gross?
Speaker 1: What is that it's like just like custard. I don't
Speaker 1: know how to explain, Like I thought it was hilarious,
Speaker 1: but he goes, do you want ice cream? How many
Speaker 1: flavors you have? But have we seen the inside of
Speaker 1: Weston's before? No? I can't remember that we have because
Speaker 1: that's different than where they went when they couldn't go
Speaker 1: to lookes. They can't they can't go to lookes, no way.
Speaker 1: So do you think they can be friends? You guys, like,
Speaker 1: let's talk about it and Roy be friends. This is
Speaker 1: really not he doesn't want to be friends. This is
Speaker 1: a transition back to Dean. Yeah, this is this is
Speaker 1: gamesmanship on a very high level. Yeah. I think if
Speaker 1: they wanted to be friends, they just need a little
Speaker 1: bit more time. It's been like, what a month, So
Speaker 1: there's no chance they could be friends, you could, I agree,
Speaker 1: there's too much passion on at least on his side
Speaker 1: of it. He's not going to be able to be friends.
Speaker 1: He's he's displaying a level of mastery, uh that border
Speaker 1: z own obsession with like kind of a genius mind
Speaker 1: to it, you know. Right, it's like this guy really
Speaker 1: loves her. He's really showing his love. Yeah, yeah, right.
Speaker 1: He misses her, he misses talking to her. So he
Speaker 1: had a clubhouse meeting with himself. He devised his game
Speaker 1: and this is how I'm going to be And he
Speaker 1: read a book or something I don't know, and now
Speaker 1: he's going to Connecticut State College. Right, a clubhouse meetings,
Speaker 1: you know, and he got his act together, man, and
Speaker 1: he's executed. It was really telling that he's going to
Speaker 1: a four year trying to go to a four year university, Like, whoa, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that only happened because of Rory. He wasn't even thinking
Speaker 1: about it. But he said it to her too, and
Speaker 1: I'm only doing this because, you know what a compliment
Speaker 1: to her and he sure is. Man. It puts her
Speaker 1: back on her heels, like, wow, you knew what to
Speaker 1: say because now she like the opened up the conversation.
Speaker 1: She got a little bit less nervous because she knew
Speaker 1: she had that was that was always the thing that
Speaker 1: she was like, he's not really into the books. He's
Speaker 1: not really into those things that I'm into. And now
Speaker 1: he's like kind of showing that he is smart and
Speaker 1: he you know, has aspirations outside of Stars Hollow, and
Speaker 1: I feel like it's again the perfect game to play.
Speaker 1: He's sizing up his enemy Jess, who ain't is not
Speaker 1: going to college, but who's a little bit bookish, more
Speaker 1: bookish than him. And now he's up to this game
Speaker 1: made himself. It's it's it's it's a it's the art
Speaker 1: of war. It's it's really something. It's the art of War,
Speaker 1: it's sun sou So I really enjoyed that. I enjoyed
Speaker 1: watching everything with Dean and Rory and everything with Dean
Speaker 1: and his sister and Taylor. Just just great stuff. Great.
Speaker 1: So now here's the part you didn't love. So now
Speaker 1: we're at Richard's birthday sixty, which I thought was, you know, great.
Speaker 1: I think maybe I thought they were slightly older, but
Speaker 1: that makes about sense. M hm. They had her in
Speaker 1: their late twenties. And then there's grand grand shows up
Speaker 1: and they're all sort of having a great time. The
Speaker 1: four of them, I thought was so cute. They're all
Speaker 1: kind of in the living room and on the ground
Speaker 1: and opened the gifts and Richard's having a wonderful time
Speaker 1: ding dong parties over. So yeah, I just love that
Speaker 1: she was renting her house out to Corn. I thought
Speaker 1: it was the funny is so random. It was so random.
Speaker 1: I think that's what made it so funny. It's like
Speaker 1: the fact that Tricks just randomly knows who Corn is,
Speaker 1: and that there was multiple reverences and she's like Corn,
Speaker 1: Corn's gone. So yeah, I just it was a more
Speaker 1: appealing character. It would have been Rang Wrung Rang funnier
Speaker 1: to me, But like you think it's a little over
Speaker 1: the top. No, no, I just I just don't like her,
Speaker 1: and I don't care what she says, and I just
Speaker 1: just turn off. She comes on the screen, and I
Speaker 1: think it's a great performance. I do. I'm not ragging
Speaker 1: on Marion Ross. I think she's fantastic. I man, she
Speaker 1: comes in there and makes Emily that uncomfortable, and it's
Speaker 1: just it doesn't seem real to me. For me, it
Speaker 1: just sets up this perfect way for Emily and Laura
Speaker 1: la to bond. So it's like, because they had some
Speaker 1: really good conversations. I think it weakens Emily. I don't
Speaker 1: like how weakens Emily. I don't like how Emily goes
Speaker 1: outside of what I think her character is. It goes
Speaker 1: outside the parameters. Yeah, you're not wrong, because it really
Speaker 1: makes Emily. I think everybody's breaking character here, Emily with
Speaker 1: the Tricksie and tricks even being involved, and Richard not
Speaker 1: paying attention to how TRICKSI is abusing his his wife,
Speaker 1: and Laurel I screeching at a spider. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: just like, what's going on here? You know, the only
Speaker 1: thing that I thought is real. Was and in the
Speaker 1: power of stuff too. It was just like, oh, what,
Speaker 1: you know, the only thing I thought was real that
Speaker 1: I could hang my hat on m was the Dean
Speaker 1: Jess Rory stuff. Yeah. Nothing, that's really interesting, Scott. I
Speaker 1: didn't realize that until you just said it, that everyone
Speaker 1: in this episode kind of showed a different side. Like,
Speaker 1: I didn't really realize that until you just said it.
Speaker 1: It's just it's kind of too far out of character
Speaker 1: for me. Yeah, I agree with that with Paris, because
Speaker 1: the Paris wouldn't although she could crush and love Christmas
Speaker 1: with Jamie, she would never go so far as to
Speaker 1: like not be on top of her presidential duties. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it is a bit of a stretch. It's like combine
Speaker 1: those keep you know, don't lose her passion of her
Speaker 1: her determination to get into Harvard, and her you know,
Speaker 1: she'll step over anybody to do it. All of a sudden,
Speaker 1: she's just like, you know, flaccid. It's like, what why
Speaker 1: am I watching her now? And then we get we
Speaker 1: get the scene of the kitchen back at the Inn
Speaker 1: Suki with all that just phenomenal food. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: just like, I don't even know how they do that,
Speaker 1: but the food looks so beyond and then she's going
Speaker 1: to create this menu for the scariest dinner of all time.
Speaker 1: Melissa had one of the best comedy moments of the
Speaker 1: entire show when she came out and physicalized how she
Speaker 1: tore her. Did you see the four moves she did?
Speaker 1: It was like ballet, It was it was like I
Speaker 1: kept thinking, man, that's Chris Farley level. And you see
Speaker 1: that later in her movies. You see that movie, that
Speaker 1: exact move. There's nobody that can do that. I mean,
Speaker 1: she's god. Man, that's funny stuff. So what did you
Speaker 1: think of Emily racing over to try to fix up
Speaker 1: the house? I mean, I don't really blame her. It's
Speaker 1: out of character. It's just like, I'm not with it.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, and the emails of camouflying, but I was
Speaker 1: just like, this is not Emily. This doesn't ring true
Speaker 1: to me, This isn't real. Who cares? She did give
Speaker 1: us that moment though, for for Laura Lae and Emily
Speaker 1: to have that conversation about you do this to me? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's the only person in their life that
Speaker 1: she doesn't have control over. And I think that scares
Speaker 1: her because think about it, she does everything for Richard's
Speaker 1: just everything for Laura Lae and she it's her way
Speaker 1: or the highway. And for the first time Tricks in
Speaker 1: charge with the gifts. She nails the gift until Tricks
Speaker 1: comes in to one up it. Yeah, so, so when
Speaker 1: is so? When does Emily back down to anyone? That's
Speaker 1: her house, that's her husband, right, what is she? What
Speaker 1: is she afraid of? She explain it to me. What
Speaker 1: Emily is so afraid of? I'm just reminding you, also, Scott,
Speaker 1: that you hated it before when Tricks came. It's coming
Speaker 1: back to me. You were really bothered. Somebody needs to
Speaker 1: go back and re listen to that podcast because when
Speaker 1: we first met her this you weren't quite as clear
Speaker 1: on why. But I remember you were like, you did
Speaker 1: not like it. I think you, whatever it is, you
Speaker 1: don't like Tricks. You don't like what it does because
Speaker 1: you didn't like how Richard. Now it's come back to me,
Speaker 1: you don't like how Richard treats Emily when Tricks is around.
Speaker 1: We didn't see it so much in this one as
Speaker 1: we did last time, but I think that really bothered you.
Speaker 1: So this could still be like triggered from that this
Speaker 1: is his birthday party. She wasn't invited. She shows up
Speaker 1: and starts dumping on Emily again on Richard's birthday party,
Speaker 1: his wife of you know, forty years, and he's gonna
Speaker 1: it's just to me, it doesn't seem real at all,
Speaker 1: Like it couldn't. It's it's it's not even falling within
Speaker 1: the parameters of possible but not probable, probable but not possible. Well,
Speaker 1: it's not improbable and it doesn't. Also, Richard doesn't stand
Speaker 1: up for Emily that bothered you last time, And I'm
Speaker 1: thinking it also doesn't make sense because the Richard we
Speaker 1: know would not allow this to happen to his wife.
Speaker 1: And I think the only reason he does is because,
Speaker 1: like we talked about, it's his mommy. Why are we
Speaker 1: watching the show? Why are we so sucked in and
Speaker 1: so enamored with these characters with this dynamic, Because the
Speaker 1: potential of this family coming together, all that tension, all
Speaker 1: those narratives running back and forth, these cross currents are
Speaker 1: trying to figure all this out. Right, we have we
Speaker 1: as an audience, we root for them. We it's painful
Speaker 1: to us to see and there is real drawing between
Speaker 1: when Laura LA and Richard or Lorea L and M
Speaker 1: and don't see eye to eye. But when you douce
Speaker 1: this other orgy that comes in like Darth Vader and
Speaker 1: just blows up everybody's relationship, it doesn't hold together for me.
Speaker 1: These people start acting like they're in a different show.
Speaker 1: It's very strange to me. Yea, what did you guys
Speaker 1: think of the dinner at the end, Because essentially not horribly,
Speaker 1: but Tricksie does mistreat everyone everyone. I suki a little bit,
Speaker 1: not not not as much, but a little bit, And
Speaker 1: so you almost see Lorala do the like uncomfortable smile,
Speaker 1: like yeah, like I wish I could apologize for her,
Speaker 1: but I warned you all like almost like we all
Speaker 1: knew we were just going to have to muddle through that.
Speaker 1: But I feel like Emily not really, but she kind
Speaker 1: of stood up when she was like, I'm not done eating,
Speaker 1: like it was the first time we saw, like I
Speaker 1: don't want to have my meals twelve minutes apart whatever
Speaker 1: it was, and like, let me just eat my what
Speaker 1: was it? Peas green means and she ate it little
Speaker 1: by little, and I think that was her first time
Speaker 1: putting her foot down. Emily is what sixty, she's in
Speaker 1: her late fifties in this show. This is how you
Speaker 1: talk to some substantial woman who's in the in the
Speaker 1: not yet in the last chapter of her life, but
Speaker 1: approaching it. And I would think that at that point
Speaker 1: somebody like Emily, especially an Emily character, has more of
Speaker 1: a backbone than she's displaying, or Richard or any of
Speaker 1: those Gilmore's have a backbone to say, you know what, lady,
Speaker 1: don't talk to my grandmother that way. It's also mother
Speaker 1: in law crab. This is what people all over the
Speaker 1: world or say. I've personally had situations with my grandma,
Speaker 1: one of my grandmasther don't get along with, and I
Speaker 1: always leave it because I just don't. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: say anything. So I actually did relate with Rory on
Speaker 1: that because it's just not worth a fight, because it's
Speaker 1: going to get my parents involved and everything, and it's like,
Speaker 1: I'll let my dad deal with that, but I'm not
Speaker 1: getting involved. And I think that's why. But do you
Speaker 1: see her actually psychologically harming your mother, like just sticking
Speaker 1: the knife and every chance you got. I mean, there's
Speaker 1: some crazy monsters and like I think people just don't
Speaker 1: want to deal with it, and that's what it is.
Speaker 1: You just you just let it be and keep going.
Speaker 1: You know what, My my dad's grandparents tried to do
Speaker 1: this to my mother and she wasn't having it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she wouldn't having it. How did stop it? There's one
Speaker 1: thing you never did to my mother, and that is
Speaker 1: condescend to her. She would get very quiet. She would say,
Speaker 1: let me tell you about the facts of life. Don't
Speaker 1: ever speak to me that way again ever, or you're
Speaker 1: gonna have real trouble. You understand what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: she was small, she was five ft two. Anybody that condescend,
Speaker 1: it didn't matter who it was, somebody in a grocery store,
Speaker 1: somebody wherever. She said, let me. She get very quiet,
Speaker 1: say let me tell you about the facts of life,
Speaker 1: which she's very similar to what Rory did to Francy, like,
Speaker 1: don't mess with me. That's Gilmore esque. So we go
Speaker 1: to the carnival. So then we see Jess and Rory
Speaker 1: looking all cute, walking all cute, looking all cute, and
Speaker 1: he's going to meet her later just like they planned,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, boom, he's going to the
Speaker 1: carnival because here comes Dean and his sister. I will
Speaker 1: say that kind of bug me because like, why couldn't
Speaker 1: he just go to the carnival with Rory if it's
Speaker 1: something she really really wants? Because he doesn't, because he
Speaker 1: because he's an angry kid who doesn't He can love her,
Speaker 1: but he can't love everybody else, and he doesn't want
Speaker 1: to be put in a position where he has to.
Speaker 1: But the second that Dean was going, right, No, I know,
Speaker 1: but right, that just proves further how insecurious? And do
Speaker 1: you think Jess would have been Rory's debutante escort like
Speaker 1: Dean was, even though Dean didn't want to do it either,
Speaker 1: No way, No, he would have. Uh, he would have
Speaker 1: not shown up for something and had some kind of excuse.
Speaker 1: He doesn't know, but he kind of like warmed up
Speaker 1: to the idea. Yeah, because he would have gone. He
Speaker 1: would have done what Rory wanted. Yeah, because he because
Speaker 1: he really loves her. Do you not think Jess loves her?
Speaker 1: I think it's got to be about Jess. Mm hmm,
Speaker 1: it's got to be on his terms. That's not really love,
Speaker 1: that's fear. He wants to possess her. He wants to
Speaker 1: own her. He doesn't want to share, he doesn't want
Speaker 1: to be vulnerable, he doesn't want to open himself up
Speaker 1: to other people. If you can only love one person
Speaker 1: and you hate everybody else, that's you know, he's got
Speaker 1: he's got issues, you know. Yeah, yeah, right, sure we
Speaker 1: see a real But I did think it was very
Speaker 1: on point when Lane points out, like do any new glasses,
Speaker 1: Like yeah, she's acknowledging like this is not this is
Speaker 1: weird with two guys, like it was pretty what's happening
Speaker 1: to my Rory's double dipping? You know they're all friendly.
Speaker 1: Think it's not stars follow anymore, it's stars full. Okay,
Speaker 1: So okay, should Rory have told Jess that she went
Speaker 1: to the coffee pie with Dean? Yes, yes, I think
Speaker 1: it would have backfired if it came up down the
Speaker 1: line like I think it was, because it was the
Speaker 1: day before, right they have, So you think she should
Speaker 1: have gone to Jess right away and not had to
Speaker 1: him find out. I think she should have been like, hey,
Speaker 1: I just went to coffee with Dean and this is
Speaker 1: what happened, rather than her like she was kind of
Speaker 1: like going around saying what happened and that they met up.
Speaker 1: I'll say my piece, and then Scott, you'd be the tiebreaker.
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think that she needed to
Speaker 1: tell him. She gets to what she wants to do.
Speaker 1: I agree with you because I didn't love the only
Speaker 1: part I didn't love because I do love Jess and Rory,
Speaker 1: and I love I love everything that's happening. I didn't
Speaker 1: like how she sort of was like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Jess. That was like, that's not what Rory
Speaker 1: would do. Rory would be like, dude, I don't want
Speaker 1: to hurt your feelings, but like I can be friends
Speaker 1: with him. Yeah, and it doesn't. But that's what she
Speaker 1: did with Dean when she was like hanging out with Jazz.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. It's the
Speaker 1: same thing. I don't like that. I'm sorry. Sorry. I
Speaker 1: think it's a case where she both has seen their
Speaker 1: violent side, and she might be a little scared of
Speaker 1: bringing that out, you know, so she has to be
Speaker 1: she has to, like, as a as a female, she
Speaker 1: has to manage that somehow, and that's really not how
Speaker 1: it should be. I agree with you, Scott, I really do.
Speaker 1: It's not fair to her, like she feels that she
Speaker 1: had to manage it, And I think Scott's right, that's
Speaker 1: not how it should know. It's not. It's like, you know,
Speaker 1: she's completely justified and saying and not telling him, and
Speaker 1: then if she brings it up in any kind of way, says, well, um,
Speaker 1: you know, I live my life and you live yours,
Speaker 1: and it bothers you too bad? You know a note note.
Speaker 1: Nobody can really handle that kind of clarity. I mean,
Speaker 1: it scarce the heck out of guys to think it through,
Speaker 1: because how many guys pull that crap on women? Right?
Speaker 1: I said, well, I didn't tell you because it's really
Speaker 1: none of your business and she's an ex and if
Speaker 1: you can't handle it, too bad. But now I'm turned
Speaker 1: off and I don't really want to see it tonight
Speaker 1: by And they pulled that right, right, right, No, you're right,
Speaker 1: you're right. I didn't believe Jess when he was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm good, like we're fine, Like I didn't believe him
Speaker 1: at all, lying lying yeah, yeah, Danielle, Danielle, you look
Speaker 1: like you wanted to sorry. I just I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, like like personally, Like if I was talking
Speaker 1: to an X, I would let my current partner know
Speaker 1: that I don't know. I don't think that's like uncalled
Speaker 1: for or not uncalled for, but U want fresh that
Speaker 1: they're navigating it. Like that was the part where I
Speaker 1: was like, you know, she's trying to close this, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I I wish because like Roary can absolutely get
Speaker 1: pie and coffee with Dean, like there's nobody that could
Speaker 1: tell her not to. But I would have loved if
Speaker 1: she was like, Hey, you know, Jess, I'm letting you know,
Speaker 1: I'm making an effort to be friends with Tean, like
Speaker 1: I just wish doesn't She doesn't owe him that though,
Speaker 1: but then she but she kind of does. She's an
Speaker 1: relationship with this guy. You know. I agree with you both,
Speaker 1: I really do. I think the messy part of this
Speaker 1: one is there the timeline. The timeline is so tricky
Speaker 1: because normally, in a in a normal somewhat situation, Rory
Speaker 1: and Dean would have broken up and it would have
Speaker 1: been months for some people years before they date someone again.
Speaker 1: Then in that case, maybe you do need to say hey,
Speaker 1: just so you know, like my ex boyfriend called, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go to lunch with him. This is also messy
Speaker 1: and intertwined that it's like, oh, the regular rules might
Speaker 1: be out the window. I think that can be perceived
Speaker 1: as too honest and kind of cruel. I think it's
Speaker 1: none of anybody's business. And if you jump into I
Speaker 1: think you bring out a very salient point that if
Speaker 1: you jump into a relationship right away, there's going to
Speaker 1: be a mess with the X because you're not going
Speaker 1: to get away from that X if it's been anything
Speaker 1: deep and meaningful immediately, it's not. You just don't cut
Speaker 1: people off like that, right So you know, maybe she
Speaker 1: should have waited, but life, you know, delta these cards
Speaker 1: and now she's with Jazz, but I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: feel like she owes anybody any kind of explanations. And
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, I went down, but they bumped
Speaker 1: into each other. They like play on it. It's like, well,
Speaker 1: purpose something other, hate somebody else, and you're going to
Speaker 1: try to be friends with that person. I think you
Speaker 1: hang on here person you're dating common you know what.
Speaker 1: I understand that you guys don't get along, but I'm
Speaker 1: going to be friends with them. I think that. But
Speaker 1: that's disrespectful Wait a minute, isn't that disrespectful to you
Speaker 1: because if you love that person, at one point you
Speaker 1: fell out of love with that person, but you still
Speaker 1: maybe like them as a friend because you were with
Speaker 1: them for two years or whatever and sharing all this stuff.
Speaker 1: So why can't your new guy respect that relationship that
Speaker 1: it's changed is transition to something else, and that if
Speaker 1: he's jealous about that's his problem. It's not your problem,
Speaker 1: and you can't you can't be you can't completely cut
Speaker 1: off somebody who was your your intimate for two years
Speaker 1: because somebody has a problem with it. I have no
Speaker 1: problem with Rory being friends with Dean. Zero love it.
Speaker 1: I want them to be friends with Dean, you know,
Speaker 1: like I have no call kiss again my buzz mine
Speaker 1: who was yours? Daniel My first kiss was this guy
Speaker 1: named Jared. So if you're going to go to with
Speaker 1: Jared for coffee, you would tell your husband think I
Speaker 1: meant one. It's not even a thing. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: here's a here's a good example. If my if my
Speaker 1: boyfriend that I was with for two years was like,
Speaker 1: Danielle want to get lunch with you? Be like, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, husband, we're getting lunch with this guy, but no,
Speaker 1: you know, like whatever, Like I think it's much more
Speaker 1: weirder and and shadier. Not to that's my opinion, but
Speaker 1: like I have no problems with like her being friends
Speaker 1: with Dean. Like I said, I just think that she
Speaker 1: does kind of owe it to Jess to be like, hey,
Speaker 1: look this is happening, and we be friends with this guy.
Speaker 1: You don't have to be, but I want to be. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think how it started, it started messy. I think
Speaker 1: that that plays a part in this, because she definitely
Speaker 1: was having feelings for Jazz while she was with Dean.
Speaker 1: It was so we all remember how piss Scott was. Yeah,
Speaker 1: remember when you were like, she needs to like remember
Speaker 1: we were all like, but Jess, I get thrown into
Speaker 1: this episodes when she was in d C. You really
Speaker 1: felt like Rory was hurting Jess, Like Rory should have
Speaker 1: gone after Jess, and we're like, but Jess didn't do anything,
Speaker 1: and now he's like making out with Shane and so
Speaker 1: she's sticking with you. It was also messy. It's all messy. Well,
Speaker 1: I grew up in a different time and that guys
Speaker 1: were a little more aggressive that way, and I, you know,
Speaker 1: I the emails came in, and I realized that that's
Speaker 1: not how things are anymore. Women are more empowered now
Speaker 1: and more independent, and they're not as needy as I guess,
Speaker 1: or or or society idle norms have changed. I guess.
Speaker 1: My point is we all, at one point or another,
Speaker 1: have been like, Rory's right, Rory's wrong, Dean's right, Deans wrong,
Speaker 1: my love, Jess's right, Jess's right. It's like, it really
Speaker 1: depends on this situation because we were all mad a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago that Dean was being so lame
Speaker 1: and just you know what, like we're just blowing like
Speaker 1: the wind here, and look, we're just giving. We're just
Speaker 1: commenting on what we're given. Okay, it's not we're not
Speaker 1: blowing in the wind anywhere. We are the freaking wind. Okay,
Speaker 1: they're blowing particles at us and we're just commenting. We're
Speaker 1: not really consistent, which is fine. Like I think, as
Speaker 1: this goes on, we see it differently each time. I think,
Speaker 1: I think I'm expecting these sixteen seventeen year olds act
Speaker 1: like mature adults, evolved, educated adults who wouldn't possibly act
Speaker 1: in these matters. But we're you gotta talk about the
Speaker 1: hormones that are raging with these kids and they're completely
Speaker 1: out of control. But but, but, um, I really do
Speaker 1: not like the fact that Rory has to manage the
Speaker 1: situation she does. Okay, I grant you that, Danielle, but
Speaker 1: I don't like the fact that she has to do it.
Speaker 1: I wish she could just say, you know, you know, go.
Speaker 1: And I think he makes such a great point because
Speaker 1: I thought hunches were going to get thrown anybody else.
Speaker 1: And you know what, You've got to be aware of
Speaker 1: the guy who wants to possess you on a percent
Speaker 1: no matter what age. He is right, those are dangerous guys.
Speaker 1: That's the guy that stalks and does crazy stuff. It's like,
Speaker 1: I can't own her. I can't control her. I you
Speaker 1: know this, going to has pie with her X, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna lose my mind. You know those you can't You
Speaker 1: can't date de range people like that, you know what
Speaker 1: means kind of I would say, maybe, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I could be wrong, but Dean sort of saying to
Speaker 1: Jess a watch out because I'm going to get her back.
Speaker 1: It's like everybody's talking about Rory instead of like or
Speaker 1: with Rory, It's like, what do you think? It was
Speaker 1: really interesting because he was like I was with Rory
Speaker 1: and you were her friend, and now I'm just a friend.
Speaker 1: Like he literally said it, like dude, like I'm coming
Speaker 1: for you. The only thing stopping them was Clara. Like
Speaker 1: the I think coming out of so well played, so
Speaker 1: well played by Jared, so well played. Seems like Dean
Speaker 1: grew a foot in the last exactly what are your
Speaker 1: dena is doing? Every seventeen year old, like a boy
Speaker 1: in high school, needs to take notes because he really
Speaker 1: because hair looks great. He got put, he got put
Speaker 1: through it. Now he's the Now he's in control. It's
Speaker 1: a breakup glow up, a breakup cup that I don't
Speaker 1: know what that'll do. Pig is from, Yeah, you know what,
Speaker 1: it's got to be at the table. I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't have to wait until pop culture. For some reason,
Speaker 1: one name pops into my head and it's Jimmy Breslin
Speaker 1: and or it's Jane Cagney. I don't know either one.
Speaker 1: All that came into my head was the Three Little Pigs.
Speaker 1: I don't know. We'll let you know. In pop culture. Yes,
Speaker 1: stay tuned, Okay, we're almost rapid. I'm just going through
Speaker 1: my notes because I feel like there was so much.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make sure we didn't miss anything. No one
Speaker 1: thing we missed. I have? Should I say it? Go
Speaker 1: for it? Tricks is saying she's moving back into her
Speaker 1: corns out, corns out, and now doomed. What did they say?
Speaker 1: They had a nice mention of wheezer too? All right?
Speaker 1: I have here in my notes for the episode ready
Speaker 1: one opening credits, blatant misspelling of Marion Ross's name. It
Speaker 1: was spelled r O D d raw. No. Yes, how
Speaker 1: does that even happen? Okay? Now? Number two random unexplained
Speaker 1: prop in the diner, when Laurel I is showing Rory
Speaker 1: the gifts she brought for Richard's birthday, there is a
Speaker 1: small piece of paper propped on the marmalade jar. Looks
Speaker 1: like a receipt. It was already there before Laurel I
Speaker 1: removed anything from the bag, though I'm not sure why
Speaker 1: it was there. Need a screenshot of that, Uh huh.
Speaker 1: Emily driving the Jaguar we only talked to so I'm
Speaker 1: not done. Um. Number three clown pillow appears a minute mark.
Speaker 1: Number four Dean hands Rory a bright red snow cone,
Speaker 1: but it's pink throughout the rest of the scene. Yes,
Speaker 1: maybe just the color dripped down a little bit. There
Speaker 1: is there was no explanation for this was simply I
Speaker 1: love a snowclone, and I love a snow clone. Snow
Speaker 1: clone mystery controversy. Oh, I did think it was hilarious
Speaker 1: when Tricks comes around and goes through the house and
Speaker 1: then she's kind of leaving and she goes, let's go
Speaker 1: and where he goes? Are we moving? Like? And Emily
Speaker 1: comes like, you're not funny? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Danielle is
Speaker 1: just like totally trying to find you know what. For
Speaker 1: some reason, the guilt all the Gilmore's look like a
Speaker 1: bunch of little baby chickens behind her, you know, following
Speaker 1: their mother did definitely take you out, like you're like,
Speaker 1: it was just the one thing we missed at the
Speaker 1: very end when um Lorla asked about the carnival and
Speaker 1: she's like, yeah, it's great, Like they're fine, like the
Speaker 1: very very end clue. I was just like, oh, like,
Speaker 1: coming right after that scene in the school, one of
Speaker 1: them says, let's just watch this no, And I think
Speaker 1: that's loyal ize saying yeah, oh m g. Scot's right,
Speaker 1: that is really bad. I can't believe that. And how
Speaker 1: do they not fix it by the time it got
Speaker 1: to Netflix, Like that can't be hard. I think at
Speaker 1: that point they're like, yeah, cats out of the bag.
Speaker 1: We smelled it wrong. To this day of my favorites
Speaker 1: when you just see a boom mic and like the
Speaker 1: first season just it's like the one mistake I think
Speaker 1: it was like at Loyalized House. Dang, it was really bad.
Speaker 1: Take a picture from your two years later. They can't
Speaker 1: fix it. We believe you, Daniel. You don't have to
Speaker 1: prove it. No, I'm no, I better, I better really
Speaker 1: check on this new show how they do my name
Speaker 1: and Skeet Poterson, does anyone call you Scooter? That was
Speaker 1: my name when I was a kid my nickname? Oh
Speaker 1: my god, because I used to scoot around Scooter from
Speaker 1: now Yeah, I don't think so. I don't think you guys,
Speaker 1: I also have why not? Oh my god? You guys
Speaker 1: just needs to go on the Instagram immediately. Marian Rod,
Speaker 1: you know what's weird. You know the D is next
Speaker 1: to the S on the computer, so it's like somebody
Speaker 1: a typo oh my god, Marrion Rod, that's so bad.
Speaker 1: Well at least they got they butchered both ses. Look, Scooter,
Speaker 1: it's not that badson. I have one thing I wanted
Speaker 1: to bring up on this podcast because I'm so just
Speaker 1: kind of shock that Alexis and Milo like actually dated
Speaker 1: in real life. There was multiple comments saying that Dean
Speaker 1: and Alexis dated too. I think that they were a couple.
Speaker 1: So like, are these episodes that we're watching right now awkward? No,
Speaker 1: she seemed because it's real life, you guys. Did she also?
Speaker 1: Did she date Zukar? Did she date Matt? Is that
Speaker 1: the other? Oh? No, No, I don't know. So, you know,
Speaker 1: like I love me the no one at all is
Speaker 1: like stressed about this, like I am. I didn't. I
Speaker 1: didn't think that was true. I didn't know, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, it all made us feel very old because
Speaker 1: none of the older people were dating, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And we would watch we would watch all
Speaker 1: this activity going on. I'm just like, whoa it really
Speaker 1: are imitating yeah, are imitating life. But there were no
Speaker 1: there were no controversies or blow ups on set. She
Speaker 1: did not date Zukar. Okay, the Internet, the Worldwide web
Speaker 1: does say she dated Jared a little bit. Yeah, yeah, Jared,
Speaker 1: and yeah, I love I think it's awkward. I think
Speaker 1: it's real life happening right now. Yeah you really, uh,
Speaker 1: you really complicate a situation um when you do that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and we know as from you know, we've all been
Speaker 1: there our very first acting classes. If you're the reason
Speaker 1: there's no tension or sexual tension in the scene is
Speaker 1: because there's no sexual tension in the scene because the
Speaker 1: actors are dating. Oh oh, but I feel like it's
Speaker 1: so good with Jessin and it is really good. But well,
Speaker 1: join for pop culture this week because I also have
Speaker 1: a giant pop culture revelation. Do you really all right,
Speaker 1: let's let's wrap this puppy up. But we're gonna do
Speaker 1: uh best lines I've done mine. You used to be funny?
Speaker 1: You feel like you you can't. You don't need to
Speaker 1: do that, You're not required to do them. Step up
Speaker 1: and I just have done it. I'm happy to repeat,
Speaker 1: but I don't want to. That's so generous. I show
Speaker 1: Scott's yours. Hey what Skeet Peterson says, I'll go, So
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go. I'm just gonna respond to me.
Speaker 1: It's fine. Line is from Laura Lee to Dean and
Speaker 1: she goes, don't let its family see you. Spiders are vindictive.
Speaker 1: Oh and special shout out to Rory wearing uggs with
Speaker 1: her school uniform because I did that high school. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Lauren just looking awesome. Amy. What what
Speaker 1: was your favorite best line? Just throw it in there
Speaker 1: so we know I'll send you a check. You know,
Speaker 1: the one I didn't say. I finally got a blankt
Speaker 1: much better? Oh, that was great? She had great lines?
Speaker 1: That was that was great? Yes, Tara, Tara. Sorry, mine
Speaker 1: was the same one where I think we mentioned it before.
Speaker 1: Um when she said, like the spider, I'm sorry to
Speaker 1: write it down. The spider can have the whole kitchen.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah yeah, I was just thinking of giving
Speaker 1: it to him. What was my line about the thing? Oh,
Speaker 1: let me let me give you the whole line, give
Speaker 1: me the whole line going through and now if it qualifies,
Speaker 1: I'll use that, Like because the line before you have
Speaker 1: like a throw away, which I love how you do that.
Speaker 1: I think that's so brilliant, Like we hear it, but
Speaker 1: you'd never overdo it. And then you say, you know,
Speaker 1: if you get the big bottle. It usually comes with
Speaker 1: a tote bag and a soapball. There you go. That's
Speaker 1: my best line. That's my favorite. Thank you Amy Um. Alright, kids,
Speaker 1: that's it. That's the boy. It's along, it's an hour
Speaker 1: and a half. That's okay. We were really entertaining this week.
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