WEBVTT - EP 294: Building a Million Dollar Business w/Tonya Rapley 

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, hey va fam, it's Mandra here. Thank you so

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<v Speaker 1>much for continuing to rock with us. I know that

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<v Speaker 1>it's been a different kind of show these past few

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<v Speaker 1>weeks as we're giving our beloved Tiffany the time that

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<v Speaker 1>she needs to heal. Thank you again for your continued support.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to say though, this episode has been I

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<v Speaker 1>guess seven years in the making. Tanya Rappily is the

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<v Speaker 1>millennial money expert and creator of the award winning site

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<v Speaker 1>my fab Finance. And for those of you who may

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<v Speaker 1>not know, you're gonna find out on today's show some

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<v Speaker 1>og financial influencer history when it comes to Tanya, Tiffany,

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<v Speaker 1>and a group called the Frugal Fab Five. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even know of this story, but Tanya joins the show

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<v Speaker 1>today not just to catch up on what she's been

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<v Speaker 1>up to the past seven years since launching her business

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<v Speaker 1>back in twenty fourteen, but also how she was able

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<v Speaker 1>to finally hit her first million dollar year of business. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I was so inspired by my conversation with Tanya, especially

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<v Speaker 1>when we started talking about a subject that I really

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<v Speaker 1>hadn't anticipated real estate. You know, as an entrepreneur, I

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<v Speaker 1>sort of assumed that as soon as I launched my

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<v Speaker 1>own business, getting a traditional mortgage was just something that

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<v Speaker 1>was either going to be a huge, massive headache or

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<v Speaker 1>even just be not possible for me. But Tanya is

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<v Speaker 1>proving that even though she runs her own business and

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, her husband is also self employed, they

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<v Speaker 1>are launching the very beginnings of what will soon become,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure, based on Tanya and how she's always killing

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<v Speaker 1>the game, a mini real estate empire. They just purchased

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<v Speaker 1>their first investment property in Atlanta, and Tanya's gonna tell

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<v Speaker 1>us all about it, like how they got alone using

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<v Speaker 1>something called hard money, Like what is that? Tanya really

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<v Speaker 1>lays it all out for us today, and I hope

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<v Speaker 1>that you guys feel inspired and also learn a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit about the alternative ways to invest in real estate

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<v Speaker 1>and even the fact that it may feel like it's

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<v Speaker 1>out of reach, but there really are some good tools

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<v Speaker 1>and products out there that can help you launch your

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<v Speaker 1>own venture into real estate. So, without further ado, here

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<v Speaker 1>is my conversation with Tanya Raply of my fab Finance.

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<v Speaker 1>I am so I'm shocked and excited today. I'm shocked

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<v Speaker 1>that it has been this long and we've never had

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<v Speaker 1>Tanya rap ly on the show. But today I am

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<v Speaker 1>so excited because we are finally making it happen. Hello,

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<v Speaker 1>Miss Tanya.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, yeah, I think the last time you reached out,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like in the throes of like morning sickness.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like, this ain't gonna work.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, I'm glad you chose yourself in that inside.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But for those of you who do not know Miss

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<v Speaker 1>Tanya of my fab Finance, personal finance educator, badass entrepreneur. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she's a mom, but that's not it. A NEWB real

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<v Speaker 1>estate entrepreneur as well, because we're never going to stop

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<v Speaker 1>adding things to the after our names apparently just keep going.

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<v Speaker 1>But I am so excited to talk to you because

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, y'all, we have Tiffany and I both, but

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<v Speaker 1>I have known Tanya since two thousand and we all

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<v Speaker 1>met at fin Con, I feel like for the first

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<v Speaker 1>time in person twenty fourteen, thirteen fourteen, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>when my fab finance was just kind of getting kicked off.

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<v Speaker 1>When did you start all of that?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, I think I know Tiffany a little

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<v Speaker 2>longer than I've known you, because I met Tiffany early

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<v Speaker 2>on in my journey.

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<v Speaker 3>She was one of my early.

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<v Speaker 2>Mentors, but my fab Fini had started in January of

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<v Speaker 2>twenty thirteen. My goal was to get a seven thirty

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<v Speaker 2>credit score by the time, a seven hundred credit score

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<v Speaker 2>by the time I turned thirty years old, and I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to close for Macy's. Those were my ambitions when

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<v Speaker 2>I started it in twenty and thirteen, and here we

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<v Speaker 2>are in twenty twenty two with a multimillion dollar business

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<v Speaker 2>and other things that have been offshoots of that. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's been a journey, but we met. Yeah, fen Con,

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<v Speaker 2>I think Black Enterprise is about to happen.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>When I saw that cover, you got the cover Black Enterprise, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that was no joke and just slaying ever since.

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<v Speaker 1>But listen, I mean one of the things that we

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<v Speaker 1>talk about on Brown Ambition is it really is about

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<v Speaker 1>the journey. Everyone who was tuning into the show today

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<v Speaker 1>is just kind of hearing. I don't know, it's definitely

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to call it the epilogue, but we

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<v Speaker 1>are like two third I mean, you're always a work

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<v Speaker 1>in progress, right, but we're pretty far in the Tanya journey, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, and this is the this is the You're

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<v Speaker 1>seeing all the fruits of all those seeds that you

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<v Speaker 1>have been planting for the past eight seven eight, you

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<v Speaker 1>know years now. So let's back up a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you get to be a multimillion dollar And

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, congratulations, because I know you're multimillions over times,

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<v Speaker 1>but this was your first million dollar year in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one, in a single year. That is extraordinary from

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<v Speaker 1>something that you built, that you created, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>It still feels.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I felt it right like I was doing

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<v Speaker 2>that work, like I felt it. But it still feels surreal.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that when black enterprise happens. A black

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<v Speaker 2>enterprise happened in twenty and fourteen. I left my job

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty and fifteen to do this full time, and

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<v Speaker 2>there's been so many I'm really thankful. There's been so

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<v Speaker 2>many remarkable things that have happened along the way. And

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<v Speaker 2>I remember everybody's like, this is your time, this is

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<v Speaker 2>your time, this is your time, this is your time.

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<v Speaker 2>And I just feel like our time is as long

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<v Speaker 2>as we want to hold it, as long as you're

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<v Speaker 2>willing to work for it, as long as it's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's supposed to be. So I still feel like I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, Mandy, like I feel like I haven't even

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<v Speaker 2>hit my prime yet. I feel like I feel the

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<v Speaker 2>same ye say, this is just the beginning. I'm really thankful,

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<v Speaker 2>but I feel like I haven't even hit my prime.

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<v Speaker 1>It's scary to think that too. I mean, well, scary

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<v Speaker 1>in one way. It's like the scary excitement. I told

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<v Speaker 1>my husband at the beginning of this year. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I had some and I'm a newbie. I'm a baby.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of like where U, Tiff, and everyone else

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<v Speaker 1>were seven eight years ago. I'm a baby entrepreneur now.

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<v Speaker 1>But I told my husband, I was like, I have

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<v Speaker 1>no idea what twenty twenty two is going to look like,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm already excited for the like the opportunities that

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<v Speaker 1>I know are going to I just feel it, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. I just feel like this is

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<v Speaker 1>not it. I've got so much room to grow, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how. I feel like what you're expressing

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<v Speaker 1>right now is similar to that. It's like the excitement

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<v Speaker 1>of possibility and knowing every day it's like preparing for

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<v Speaker 1>that next that next exciting email to hit your inbox.

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<v Speaker 1>You know those you yes and.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, my one of my managers used to say,

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen people's life change with the email, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>so true, like your life can literally change for the

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<v Speaker 2>better with one email. But then also like, we got

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<v Speaker 2>to put some respect on your name, Mandy, Like, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>you're a baby entrepreneur, but you've still been doing this

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<v Speaker 2>and you have such a strong network. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>that when you have that strong network of people, you

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<v Speaker 2>can call on people, you can ask questions who have

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<v Speaker 2>been there, who have made.

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<v Speaker 3>The mistakes that I don't consider your baby.

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<v Speaker 2>You might be a toddler, like you're not in the

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<v Speaker 2>infant stage, maybe a todder because you learned from so

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<v Speaker 2>many of our mistakes and you did it your way.

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<v Speaker 3>So we gotta put some respect on Mandy's name. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>That reminds me that I just did see you in

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta not that long ago, and I feel like we

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<v Speaker 1>had a very similar moment where I was like trying

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<v Speaker 1>to downplay where I'm at and you're like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>let me remind you who's who my friend Mandy is.

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<v Speaker 3>We ain't gonna let you do it. We're not, we not.

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<v Speaker 1>So I love seeing you in Atlanta and You've just

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<v Speaker 1>recently moved to Atlanta, right with your.

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<v Speaker 3>Fad in twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>So, yeah, we moved to Atlanta in the middle of

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<v Speaker 2>the pandemic our house without seeing it, which was actually

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<v Speaker 2>a really good choice. It's been a really, really good

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<v Speaker 2>home for us. And so we're in We were in

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<v Speaker 2>California prior to moving to Atlanta, but I'm from the South.

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<v Speaker 2>Housing prices were just ridiculous in California, and for me,

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<v Speaker 2>the beauty of being location independent, the beauty of becoming

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<v Speaker 2>financially secure so you can choose what's in your best interest.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that I wanted to raise my son around my family,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I didn't have the liberty of that because my

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<v Speaker 2>mother and father were in the military, and so for me,

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<v Speaker 2>it was really important for my parents to be in

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<v Speaker 2>driving distance. As a matter of fact, I'm taking my

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<v Speaker 2>son to my parents' house on Wednesday and for him.

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<v Speaker 1>To give experience.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>And they girl, they bought a house in Florida, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I like, yeah, I'm going to Florida on

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<v Speaker 2>Wednesday to pop in on my parents, check on them,

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<v Speaker 2>and take my son so you can spend some time

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<v Speaker 2>with them. But it's a beautiful blessing to be closer

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<v Speaker 2>to them as well as Atlanta has so many opportunities.

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<v Speaker 3>This is this is where the enterprise is to be built.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I can't believe you about your house sight unseen.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So a million dollar a year, let's get

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<v Speaker 1>into it. What does that look like for you? Was

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<v Speaker 1>that something that you know at this point in your business?

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<v Speaker 1>You are and I'm understanding too, a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the checks that you're cashing, you know in

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<v Speaker 1>advance that they're coming, like you sign a deal. And

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<v Speaker 1>of course it takes a while for those those cash

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<v Speaker 1>those checks to hit your bank account. As we know,

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<v Speaker 1>direct deposit likes to take its time.

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<v Speaker 3>But draws or immediate.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yes. I was telling Chris last week on Popcorn

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<v Speaker 1>Finance when he was here. I was like, let me

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<v Speaker 1>tell you how quickly the IRS came for my deposit

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<v Speaker 1>from my withdrawal when I made my tax payment, and

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<v Speaker 1>yet my refund check will probably take two months.

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<v Speaker 2>But man, listen, I was just saying, I amend my taxes,

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<v Speaker 2>and they like, I am ended my taxes I think

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<v Speaker 2>in June, and I still have they still have not

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<v Speaker 2>processed the amendment. But that, Oh, but you want to

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<v Speaker 2>tell me about everything else, but you haven't processed like

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<v Speaker 2>my amendment and like the taxes are paid off and everything.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, all right, they.

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<v Speaker 1>Will snatch your money quit immediately, very quick. But let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about that. Did you have an idea it was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be a million dollar year or was this a

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<v Speaker 1>goal of yours?

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<v Speaker 3>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>When did you realize this is gonna be it? Like

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna I set the attention.

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<v Speaker 2>I set the intention in February of last year at

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<v Speaker 2>my friend Maya Elias's impactweeking conference, and she had this

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<v Speaker 2>thing where it was like road to a million and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, telling you, why you keep telling yourself

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<v Speaker 2>that you can't.

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<v Speaker 3>Make a million in a year. Why have you counted

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<v Speaker 3>this out of your story? You can do this.

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<v Speaker 2>And so that weekend I committed to like, Okay, this

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<v Speaker 2>is gonna be my first million dollar year. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think it really hit me that it was gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>my first million dollar year. Around June, when I signed

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<v Speaker 2>my biggest brand partnership to date, it was almost half

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<v Speaker 2>a million dollars, and.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, Oh, it's gonna be a year.

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<v Speaker 2>And then August I was sitting there and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I think at like seven hundred and something thousand dollars,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, Oh, this is gonna be a million dollar year.

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<v Speaker 2>Like if I made seven hundred thousand dollars in eight months,

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<v Speaker 2>I can make three hundred thousand dollars three hundred thousand.

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<v Speaker 3>More by the end of this year. So we passed that.

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<v Speaker 3>We hit one point two. Which is it?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I think it's a culmination of everything. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a culmination of me having the right team in place.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a culmination of me having the right relationships

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<v Speaker 2>in place. It is a cummination of me having the

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<v Speaker 2>work ethic in place, and all those things combined, I

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<v Speaker 2>think led to and the willingness and the belief that

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<v Speaker 2>it was possible. I think it was all those things

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<v Speaker 2>that led to making it possible and that will lead

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<v Speaker 2>to future million dollar years. So I'm really slow to

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<v Speaker 2>ease into my years. I kind of feel like I

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<v Speaker 2>have like a New Year hangover, and like, just like

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<v Speaker 2>last year, I didn't set my goals until February this year, like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, all right, this year, we want to do

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<v Speaker 2>one point five to two million. So the work starts now.

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<v Speaker 2>Tomorrow's February first. For me, the work starts now, so

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<v Speaker 2>I give myself. I really like to take December off ideally,

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<v Speaker 2>so give myself February to November to make it happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I love that. And I also think like whenever,

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<v Speaker 1>even if you decided, you know, June or September or October,

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<v Speaker 1>whenever you decide, like that's the day that matters these

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<v Speaker 1>whole Like make a resolution just because it's January first, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, now, we know dreams.

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<v Speaker 3>Can happen, end of time.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't take I don't take resolutions for granted.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't take like goal setting for granted. Evening the

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<v Speaker 2>other day, I was thinking about how I want to

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<v Speaker 2>create space for me to go away and think about

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<v Speaker 2>my goals and I really write them down and commit

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<v Speaker 2>them to paper. I don't want to just be oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna sit here and think about it in my office.

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<v Speaker 2>I really want to connect to myself and make sure

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<v Speaker 2>that my goals are sol aligned. That's always what my

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<v Speaker 2>work has been about, is like soul aligned, wealth creation.

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<v Speaker 1>Soul s o U L aligned, Yes, s o U.

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<v Speaker 3>L like soul like I want to.

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to be aligned with my divine assignment and

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm here to do. So I'm going to take

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<v Speaker 2>some time and we'll iron those things that out in

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<v Speaker 2>the coming weeks.

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<v Speaker 3>But right now, you know, we're just flowing. We're just

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<v Speaker 3>we're flowing into the year.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me more about that that weekend or what was

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<v Speaker 1>that you said, the Road to a Million Maya Elliott, Yes, Impact.

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<v Speaker 2>American program, Maya who actually is a good friend of

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<v Speaker 2>all of us. So those who I don't know people

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<v Speaker 2>probably are OG's. But early on in my financial journey,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think Tiffany was about five six years into

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<v Speaker 2>her journey, we had this collective called the Frugal Fab Five.

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<v Speaker 2>It was Tiffany, myself, Marcia Barnes, the finance bar Kara

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<v Speaker 2>Stevens of Frugal Feminista, and at the time I had

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<v Speaker 2>a business partner, Tiffany Victoria for my fab Finance, and

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<v Speaker 2>we were a Frugal Fab five and we actually like

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<v Speaker 2>traveled around and did events.

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<v Speaker 3>We did something at the cis of legend.

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<v Speaker 1>I forgot about this legendary.

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<v Speaker 2>Old finance history, finance OG history, and so we we

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<v Speaker 2>did these events together and Maya actually designed our flyers

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<v Speaker 2>for our our programs. That we were doing together as

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<v Speaker 2>well as she was our photographer at our event in Charlotte,

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<v Speaker 2>North Carolina. And so Maya's been a friend of ours

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<v Speaker 2>for so long, and she's pivoted into helping women create

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<v Speaker 2>brand and live with impact and purpose. And so that's

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<v Speaker 2>ballooned into or blossomed into Impact Weekend in her program

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<v Speaker 2>build Your Impact, which as she's grown to be a

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<v Speaker 2>multimillion dollar program. And I was in support of her program.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, that's another thing in these relationships. I was

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<v Speaker 2>in support of her. I was there, I went to

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<v Speaker 2>support her, and I walked away with like okay, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>like inspiration and it impacted me. But the weekend is

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<v Speaker 2>actually coming up this weekend here in Atlanta. The week

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<v Speaker 2>right now is like the first weekend in February. And

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<v Speaker 2>so that's one of the reasons I'm taking my son

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<v Speaker 2>to my parents' house is because he's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>there so I can go just fully dive in and

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<v Speaker 2>learn and digest the Impact weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>I love. I think that that ties in so nicely

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<v Speaker 1>to the point you made a minute ago about setting

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<v Speaker 1>aside the time to think intentionally about what you want

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<v Speaker 1>and not letting it be something that Like for me,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the classic. You know, it's the end of the night.

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<v Speaker 1>It's ten o'clock, like the babies asleep, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on the couch watching thousand pounds Sisters, Like, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I should think about what I want to do next,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean? But actually create carving out

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<v Speaker 1>that time and for you and and people can get

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure they'll. People will google and you should like

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<v Speaker 1>look up, we'll put a link to to impact. What

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<v Speaker 1>is an impact?

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry, I keep for getting impact weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>Impact weekend in Maya's program. And that's wonderful. But whatever

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<v Speaker 1>that looks like for you, even just doing you know,

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<v Speaker 1>renting an airbnb for a couple of days or leaving

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<v Speaker 1>the kids with a sitter or whatever, so you have

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<v Speaker 1>time to think about what you want and being intentional

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<v Speaker 1>about it and putting that like it almost puts like

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<v Speaker 1>a timer on that It's it's nice because you carve

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<v Speaker 1>out the time, but it also gives you like a

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<v Speaker 1>contained amount of time so that you can't just like

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<v Speaker 1>put it off. You know, you're kind of forced to

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<v Speaker 1>spend that time and thinking about it. So now is

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<v Speaker 1>it something that you do on a regor their basis

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<v Speaker 1>or is it the annual you know, go to Maya's event,

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<v Speaker 1>or how do you do that for yourself kind of

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<v Speaker 1>throughout the year.

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<v Speaker 2>So one of the things that I do is as

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<v Speaker 2>a mom, it's important for me to have me time

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<v Speaker 2>where I'm only responsible for myself, and so I do

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<v Speaker 2>quarterly getaways. And so last year I did my thinking

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<v Speaker 2>during my quarterly getaway. I think I just did a

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<v Speaker 2>staycation here in Atlanta, got a room at the suite

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<v Speaker 2>at the w when it got massages, just that focus

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<v Speaker 2>on myself that weekend. And then I also rented a

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<v Speaker 2>treehouse here in Atlanta and went to the treehouse and

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<v Speaker 2>had like my meals prepared and everything for my chef

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<v Speaker 2>here and just hold up in a treehouse and did

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<v Speaker 2>some planning. But at once a quarter I create space

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<v Speaker 2>for myself just to think to myself and think in

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<v Speaker 2>my business, to be away so that I don't wear

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<v Speaker 2>the mom hat, I don't wear the wife hat. I

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<v Speaker 2>just wear the Tanya hat and focus on what's most

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<v Speaker 2>important to Tanya. And if Tanya feels good about how

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<v Speaker 2>she's moving through the world in her business and in

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<v Speaker 2>my own life, and that's really important to me because

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<v Speaker 2>I think that we can really get disconnected from ourselves,

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<v Speaker 2>especially in the social media era. We get take on

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<v Speaker 2>others expectations of ours. We can take on pieces of

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<v Speaker 2>other people's lives that don't even resonate with what we want,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's what's socially acceptable or socially aspired. And so

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<v Speaker 2>it's just that reconnection moment where I tune everything out.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't watch TV.

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<v Speaker 1>I just know thousand pounds Sisters for you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, No, No, no SNOWFALLLL.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no Avid Elementary, which I'm like really into right now,

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<v Speaker 2>No HDTV, none of it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just me spending time with me.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that was it in your tree house when you

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<v Speaker 1>decided I think it's time. I think I'm ready to

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<v Speaker 1>be a real estate entrepreneur.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you know, the real estate piece is something I've

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<v Speaker 2>always wanted to do, always wanted to do, like always

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<v Speaker 2>been having conversations with people enrold of my friend Julian's

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<v Speaker 2>multimillion multi family mastermind, like always wanted to do. But

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<v Speaker 2>I think that was one of the things I counted

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<v Speaker 2>myself out of, especially when we bought our house here,

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<v Speaker 2>because we bought a single family home. I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>there goes my FHA three point five percent down. Now

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<v Speaker 2>I got to say twenty percent down on an investment property.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's just go ahead and do that and pay taxes

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<v Speaker 2>and all this other stuff and pay a team and

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<v Speaker 2>pay a nanny and all these other things. And I

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<v Speaker 2>counted myself out. And then my current mentor we were

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<v Speaker 2>having launch and we were talking about my million dollar years.

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<v Speaker 2>She was like, girl, you're gonna need some more write offs.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>She was like, you need a property, and I was

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<v Speaker 2>just like, I don't know if I could do it.

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<v Speaker 2>She was like, there's ways, there's ways, and loan bold

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<v Speaker 2>there are ways. They're ethical. We did a hard money

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<v Speaker 2>loan on our on our property. So we were doing

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<v Speaker 2>the Bird strategy, which is by renovate, rent, refinance.

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<v Speaker 3>And then repeat.

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<v Speaker 2>So we buy the house and need some work, you

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<v Speaker 2>renovate the house, you rent it out. Once you renovated it,

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<v Speaker 2>you go refinance to get the hard money loan off

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<v Speaker 2>of the property and put a standard conventional mortgage on

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<v Speaker 2>the property, and then you repeat the process.

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<v Speaker 3>And so that is.

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<v Speaker 1>Hard money loan.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we get are we getting?

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<v Speaker 1>You're going to get into it? Because I love these details. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm quite sure I have an idea of what it is,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think we used to write about this all

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<v Speaker 1>the time at Lending Trade. But go ahead. Hard money.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and your hard money loan is it can come

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<v Speaker 2>from a private lender, which is an individual who just

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<v Speaker 2>has a lot of money, or it can come from

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<v Speaker 2>institutions that are set up to support real estate investors

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<v Speaker 2>because they're quite popular in the real estate community. The

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<v Speaker 2>hard money loan is going to come with a higher

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<v Speaker 2>interest rate, but often it's going to be they understand

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<v Speaker 2>that you are doing renovations. So we contracted our house

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<v Speaker 2>for two hundred and twenty three thousand dollars. We took

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<v Speaker 2>a hard money loan through two hundred and eighty five

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<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars, so they funded us sixty thousand, sixty two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars to do the renovations. Our loan is for

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<v Speaker 2>two hundred and eighty five thousand. But once we renovate

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<v Speaker 2>the house, we've forced appreciation. So the house, the ARV,

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<v Speaker 2>the comps in the area are about four hundred. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really getting in real estate terms now.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'll know I need you to slow down and

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>The other homes that are selling in that neighborhood are

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<v Speaker 2>going for four hundred and fifteen four hundred and thirty

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<v Speaker 2>five thousand dollars. We paid two hundred and eighty five

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<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars that included our renovation costs. So now we

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<v Speaker 2>can refinance our home technically for like three hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 2>dollars to pay off that hard money loan that we

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<v Speaker 2>took from the lender. And then now we have even

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<v Speaker 2>though we have a mortgage for three hundred thousand dollars,

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<v Speaker 2>our homes were four hundred and fifteen thousand dollars. Our

0:20:25.200 --> 0:20:27.679
<v Speaker 2>hard money lender is going to They don't look at

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<v Speaker 2>your credit history, They don't look at your like your

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<v Speaker 2>debt to income ratio or anything like that. They look

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<v Speaker 2>at the strength of the asset of the property. So

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<v Speaker 2>because the property we bought it at such a low

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<v Speaker 2>price and once we finished renovating it, they know that

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<v Speaker 2>we can get a mortgage for that property because we're

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<v Speaker 2>actually going to be under mortgaging that property, and so

0:20:47.280 --> 0:20:49.520
<v Speaker 2>they lent to us. Now, you definitely want to make

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<v Speaker 2>sure if you're exploring hard money that you do your research.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you get reviews are hard money lender.

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<v Speaker 2>We were connected to them by my real estate mentor

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<v Speaker 2>who's done several deals with them before, so she knew

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<v Speaker 2>that they were ethical.

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<v Speaker 3>There weren't any like crazy points.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't some like back bar, you know, agreement where

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<v Speaker 2>we don't pay they're gonna break our legs or anything

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<v Speaker 2>like that.

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<v Speaker 3>It was they.

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<v Speaker 2>Were really an ethical company. They've been really they've been

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<v Speaker 2>a pleasure to work with. And you know, I could

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<v Speaker 2>do a whole podcast on the process that we've been

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<v Speaker 2>going through with it. And you know, you fund the

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<v Speaker 2>renovation costs and they they reimburse you. So are we

0:21:26.600 --> 0:21:29.840
<v Speaker 2>paid upfront for our contractor to get started. Once we

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<v Speaker 2>reached a certain point, we contacted the lender said hey,

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<v Speaker 2>we're at this point. They came out and looked, you're like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you did this work. They wired us money immediately that

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<v Speaker 2>day to pay the like to repay us for what

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<v Speaker 2>we paid the contractor.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's been a great process.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of people use it and real estate, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think that what keeps a lot of people out

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<v Speaker 2>of real estate is the assumption that you have to

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<v Speaker 2>have your twenty percent down or how am I going

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<v Speaker 2>to renovate this property?

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<v Speaker 3>And everything, and that's why it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Important to like reach out to mentors, join communities because

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<v Speaker 2>there are ways. There are ways, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people are using these ways to get into real estate

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<v Speaker 2>and to grow their real estate portfolio.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not people's money.

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<v Speaker 2>They're using other people's money, and it's essentially other people

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<v Speaker 2>on any strategy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's great to hear you talk about that too,

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<v Speaker 1>because I mean, we purchased a home in twenty eighteen.

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<v Speaker 1>At the time, my husband and I was very easy.

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<v Speaker 1>We're both w two workers at the time, and I

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<v Speaker 1>remember one of the biggest one of my biggest I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it was it's all fine, but I look back at

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<v Speaker 1>it and I'm like, dang, I really put a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of like of I don't know, I put a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of pressure on myself to have that twenty percent because

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to show the bank or whatever like

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<v Speaker 1>we got it, like we we like saved up, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we are very reliable, and I was proud to put

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<v Speaker 1>that twenty percent down. But in hindsight, I'm like, dang,

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<v Speaker 1>why did I put all my cash on the line?

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<v Speaker 1>And then we did like a renovation after and I'm like, dang,

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<v Speaker 1>we really could have used that money for the HVAC

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. And I'm like, you know there are other options,

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<v Speaker 1>and you and I knew that intellectually, but I just

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<v Speaker 1>you know how money is emotional. I was emotionally invested

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<v Speaker 1>in the idea that I was going to do the

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<v Speaker 1>right thing. But there are all these tools there for

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<v Speaker 1>a reason, right low down payment options. You mentioned you

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<v Speaker 1>did an FHA three and a half.

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<v Speaker 2>Three point five percent down on our single family home.

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<v Speaker 2>And actually what I'm going to do is we're refinancing

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<v Speaker 2>my name off of the single family home property and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to use my FAHA to go get a

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<v Speaker 2>multi family property. And so I'll be getting probably a

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<v Speaker 2>triplex or a quadplex and using three point five percent

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<v Speaker 2>down instead of twenty percent down to secure that secure

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<v Speaker 2>that multi family property.

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<v Speaker 1>Now as a the other point is now I'm now

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<v Speaker 1>I am self employed, and I we would love to

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<v Speaker 1>buy another property, probably in Atlanta. And I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to come down, Kyle. Well, you know that's my place,

0:23:48.119 --> 0:23:50.959
<v Speaker 1>that's my town. I'm coming down and police believe me

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<v Speaker 1>with it. When Stacey wins, I might I might need

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<v Speaker 1>to be there. I might need to be there once

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<v Speaker 1>the governorship. But anyway, I would love to buy a

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<v Speaker 1>property there, but I don't want to give up our

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<v Speaker 1>home here in New York. I don't know. I just

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<v Speaker 1>love it as our starter home. I want to rent

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<v Speaker 1>it out. And I am just at the beginning stages

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<v Speaker 1>of telling myself that it's possible, even though I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like the perception is that, oh, you're self employed and

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<v Speaker 1>not a W two, it's going to be so hard

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<v Speaker 1>for you to get approved for a loan. But you're

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<v Speaker 1>already dispelling that myth for me so absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>And I yeah, because actually our single family home that

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<v Speaker 2>we have now, we me and my husband are self employed,

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<v Speaker 2>Like we bought it a self employed individuals. I've been

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<v Speaker 2>self employed since twenty fifteen. He's been self employed since

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and like I think he was off and on,

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<v Speaker 2>but he was officially self employed in twenty sixteen. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we did it, like you just have to have. And

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<v Speaker 2>the other thing is you don't have to finance it

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<v Speaker 2>in your name. You can finance it in your business name.

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<v Speaker 2>And when you finance it in your business name, you

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<v Speaker 2>can get what's called a no doc loan where it's

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<v Speaker 2>just like either they want you to have to twenty

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<v Speaker 2>percent down, or you go to a hard money lender

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<v Speaker 2>and you get something that needs some you know, renovations

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<v Speaker 2>and you don't have to provide aw two.

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<v Speaker 3>And that was what I wanted to do because buying.

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<v Speaker 2>A home as a self employed individual, they definitely ran

0:25:09.240 --> 0:25:13.159
<v Speaker 2>us like they ran us. They needed contracts, they needed

0:25:13.440 --> 0:25:16.040
<v Speaker 2>most bank statements on bank statements on bank statements, but

0:25:16.080 --> 0:25:18.959
<v Speaker 2>they needed contracts to show that we had other jobs

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<v Speaker 2>coming in even after we closed on our house, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was.

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<v Speaker 3>Just like, I don't want to go through that. I

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to be simple.

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<v Speaker 2>And when we did the hard money loan, literally asked

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<v Speaker 2>for our operating agreement bank statements to make sure that

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<v Speaker 2>we had money to get the renovation started and if

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<v Speaker 2>something was to fall through that we had money to

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<v Speaker 2>cover it. Our EI in information and they needed the

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<v Speaker 2>property like details about the property and comps in the area.

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<v Speaker 3>That was it. We had a two week like if

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<v Speaker 3>we closed in two.

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<v Speaker 1>Weeks, you're giving me.

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<v Speaker 2>So to think that all those years I thought that

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<v Speaker 2>I would be hindered by not being a traditional employee.

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<v Speaker 2>To find out that we closed quicker using like my

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<v Speaker 2>business changed. It changed the game for me. It changed it,

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<v Speaker 2>and it just shows me what's possible as well as

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<v Speaker 2>what people have been doing all this time.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, honestly, I think as Black Americans we are sold

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<v Speaker 1>a very different version of the American dream. One is

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<v Speaker 1>that one that is extremely convenient to the people at

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<v Speaker 1>the top and holds us back.

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<v Speaker 3>That's our that gets us and debt has us taken

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<v Speaker 3>our stud a loan.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's y'all's dream. Dream for a nine to five job,

0:26:28.359 --> 0:26:30.520
<v Speaker 1>dream for some bootstraps you can pull yourself.

0:26:30.560 --> 0:26:33.080
<v Speaker 3>You know, we create those nine dream to keep the light.

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<v Speaker 1>Bill paid, you know what I mean. Dream to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to put food on your family's tables and have

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<v Speaker 1>good American values and maybe real estate investing. No, now

0:26:42.480 --> 0:26:44.840
<v Speaker 1>that's for us, you know, like investing in general.

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<v Speaker 3>That's for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't want a four to one king.

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<v Speaker 3>Nay, passive income not just go ahead for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Active dream for a cash checking store in every block

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<v Speaker 1>and upon time, and.

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<v Speaker 3>Then off with social Security when when you're.

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<v Speaker 1>Dea and there you go, that's a good American life.

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<v Speaker 1>AD's a freaking loop. All right, we are back. You're

0:27:06.880 --> 0:27:09.440
<v Speaker 1>just reminding me of the importance of yes, like you said,

0:27:09.600 --> 0:27:12.560
<v Speaker 1>networking with one another and among your peers and being

0:27:12.600 --> 0:27:15.080
<v Speaker 1>inspired by one another. And I always kind of get

0:27:15.480 --> 0:27:18.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, especially when you know its influencers. You don't

0:27:18.760 --> 0:27:20.840
<v Speaker 1>want people to feel like, oh, this is the way

0:27:20.880 --> 0:27:22.960
<v Speaker 1>that I need to do things, and this is you know,

0:27:23.160 --> 0:27:25.080
<v Speaker 1>if I'm not an entrepreneur, I'm not self employed, I

0:27:25.080 --> 0:27:26.760
<v Speaker 1>don't have a house, and I'm not doing things right.

0:27:27.240 --> 0:27:29.960
<v Speaker 1>But it's not so much about the mindset. When you're

0:27:30.040 --> 0:27:33.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of like listening to stories like Tanya's or other

0:27:33.119 --> 0:27:36.240
<v Speaker 1>influencers out there, is not necessarily to look at that

0:27:36.280 --> 0:27:38.000
<v Speaker 1>and compare yourself, but to look at it and let

0:27:38.040 --> 0:27:40.600
<v Speaker 1>it just like level up the dream, you know, like

0:27:41.119 --> 0:27:43.560
<v Speaker 1>and for some people that can be terrifying, and their

0:27:43.600 --> 0:27:48.120
<v Speaker 1>immediate reaction is like to become defensive or like go inward.

0:27:48.560 --> 0:27:50.560
<v Speaker 1>Do you know what I mean, Because that's just so

0:27:50.760 --> 0:27:51.960
<v Speaker 1>shocking to think.

0:27:51.760 --> 0:27:54.639
<v Speaker 3>Like your time, take your time.

0:27:54.960 --> 0:27:59.159
<v Speaker 2>Like there are some people who realize their vision at

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<v Speaker 2>a very early age.

0:28:00.200 --> 0:28:00.880
<v Speaker 3>I remember I was.

0:28:00.840 --> 0:28:04.760
<v Speaker 2>Doing a panel with a guy who was like twenty

0:28:04.800 --> 0:28:08.960
<v Speaker 2>one and had already had seventeen units, and that's his

0:28:09.119 --> 0:28:11.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, that works for him. But for some people,

0:28:11.440 --> 0:28:14.359
<v Speaker 2>that's not your journey. And don't beat yourself up for

0:28:14.400 --> 0:28:16.719
<v Speaker 2>them and not become not being a part of your journey.

0:28:16.800 --> 0:28:18.920
<v Speaker 2>You know, sometimes I think about, like how far off

0:28:19.040 --> 0:28:22.200
<v Speaker 2>ahead would I be if I had started this at

0:28:22.200 --> 0:28:24.879
<v Speaker 2>an earlier age. But then I also think about, like

0:28:24.960 --> 0:28:27.440
<v Speaker 2>how much life I lived and how many things I enjoyed,

0:28:27.480 --> 0:28:29.720
<v Speaker 2>and how many places I lived because I wasn't tied

0:28:29.760 --> 0:28:30.760
<v Speaker 2>down to one city.

0:28:30.800 --> 0:28:31.600
<v Speaker 3>I lived in New.

0:28:31.520 --> 0:28:34.320
<v Speaker 2>York, I lived in la I lived in Miami. I've

0:28:34.320 --> 0:28:36.359
<v Speaker 2>lived places I want to live because I haven't been

0:28:36.400 --> 0:28:39.440
<v Speaker 2>tied down. And for me now, I don't have any

0:28:39.480 --> 0:28:43.080
<v Speaker 2>what fs. I don't live with what f's because I

0:28:43.120 --> 0:28:46.200
<v Speaker 2>gave myself time to just feel through it and then

0:28:46.400 --> 0:28:49.600
<v Speaker 2>it started to lay like a stronger foundation and put

0:28:49.600 --> 0:28:50.520
<v Speaker 2>my roots in the ground.

0:28:51.400 --> 0:28:54.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I love that. So you have you mentioned your

0:28:54.520 --> 0:28:58.120
<v Speaker 1>husband who's also self employed. I would love to know

0:28:58.400 --> 0:29:01.880
<v Speaker 1>how you guys sort of tackle business decisions as a couple,

0:29:02.120 --> 0:29:03.880
<v Speaker 1>and are you guys in business together? Does he have

0:29:03.920 --> 0:29:04.360
<v Speaker 1>his own thing?

0:29:05.360 --> 0:29:08.120
<v Speaker 2>He has his own thing, but we like real estate

0:29:08.160 --> 0:29:10.440
<v Speaker 2>is something we've done together. We bought the company Club

0:29:10.480 --> 0:29:14.280
<v Speaker 2>Blufa together. And it's not always harmonious, you know, it's

0:29:14.320 --> 0:29:17.920
<v Speaker 2>not always harmonious, but it has highlight for me, like

0:29:18.080 --> 0:29:20.760
<v Speaker 2>the difference in my work style and also the areas

0:29:20.800 --> 0:29:23.240
<v Speaker 2>that I can improve upon because I'm very much like

0:29:23.240 --> 0:29:25.520
<v Speaker 2>it's in my head, go get it, like y'all should

0:29:25.560 --> 0:29:26.320
<v Speaker 2>know what I'm thinking.

0:29:26.800 --> 0:29:28.000
<v Speaker 3>And he's like, no, I.

0:29:28.040 --> 0:29:30.520
<v Speaker 2>Need you to create a spreadsheet and explain this and

0:29:30.560 --> 0:29:33.959
<v Speaker 2>break it down and like give us clearly defined roles

0:29:34.040 --> 0:29:34.800
<v Speaker 2>and everything else.

0:29:34.840 --> 0:29:37.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, oh, yeah, that would be helpful to people.

0:29:37.720 --> 0:29:39.600
<v Speaker 2>And so it really has to help me identify the

0:29:39.600 --> 0:29:43.080
<v Speaker 2>weaknesses in my work style. But you know, it also

0:29:43.200 --> 0:29:46.000
<v Speaker 2>is great that he is wonderful of what he does,

0:29:46.440 --> 0:29:48.959
<v Speaker 2>and it's also nice to have someone who understands what

0:29:49.000 --> 0:29:51.080
<v Speaker 2>it is to be an entrepreneur. I think that sometimes

0:29:51.080 --> 0:29:53.200
<v Speaker 2>it could be tricky when you have someone who is

0:29:53.240 --> 0:29:56.040
<v Speaker 2>not an entrepreneur. They don't necessarily understand everything that comes

0:29:56.080 --> 0:29:58.720
<v Speaker 2>with it because it's a lot.

0:29:59.240 --> 0:30:01.000
<v Speaker 3>It's a marathon, it really is.

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<v Speaker 2>And some days, you know, you can you can come

0:30:04.280 --> 0:30:07.880
<v Speaker 2>off your best year yet and then be sitting there.

0:30:07.880 --> 0:30:10.880
<v Speaker 3>You know, a week later, like so what next? Like

0:30:11.040 --> 0:30:11.600
<v Speaker 3>what next?

0:30:11.640 --> 0:30:13.160
<v Speaker 2>You know, and being a low because you're like, I

0:30:13.200 --> 0:30:16.920
<v Speaker 2>don't know what's next. I spent the entire year focused

0:30:16.960 --> 0:30:18.080
<v Speaker 2>on this, and now I.

0:30:18.160 --> 0:30:18.840
<v Speaker 3>Made it happen.

0:30:19.440 --> 0:30:21.840
<v Speaker 2>And now I feel guilty that I don't have a

0:30:21.880 --> 0:30:23.840
<v Speaker 2>plan for what's next because I've been so focused on

0:30:23.880 --> 0:30:25.840
<v Speaker 2>what it was. And it's important to have someone who

0:30:25.920 --> 0:30:29.040
<v Speaker 2>understands those thought processes because the wrong the other you know,

0:30:29.200 --> 0:30:32.680
<v Speaker 2>another partner would be like how ungrateful are you?

0:30:33.120 --> 0:30:34.880
<v Speaker 3>Or you know just kind of look at it and

0:30:34.880 --> 0:30:36.000
<v Speaker 3>as like how dare you?

0:30:36.080 --> 0:30:38.920
<v Speaker 2>But an entrepreneur will like, well understand, like no, I

0:30:38.960 --> 0:30:41.440
<v Speaker 2>get it, I get it, but just remind yourself give

0:30:41.480 --> 0:30:44.800
<v Speaker 2>yourself some graces, you know. So it's been really it's

0:30:44.840 --> 0:30:45.480
<v Speaker 2>been beautiful.

0:30:46.080 --> 0:30:48.200
<v Speaker 1>Well it's nice. Yeah, my husband and I we talk

0:30:48.280 --> 0:30:50.560
<v Speaker 1>about real estate, but we are just it terrifies me.

0:30:51.320 --> 0:30:53.840
<v Speaker 1>Not terrifies me, but I just know it's so much

0:30:53.880 --> 0:30:56.120
<v Speaker 1>harder when you're working with a partner, like when you

0:30:56.360 --> 0:30:58.040
<v Speaker 1>cause I come down to my zen den and it's

0:30:58.080 --> 0:31:00.360
<v Speaker 1>Mandy Money show, you know what I mean. I I

0:31:00.400 --> 0:31:02.240
<v Speaker 1>just got to know what I'm thinking, just like you've said,

0:31:02.800 --> 0:31:05.120
<v Speaker 1>and everyone reports to me, me being me, I'm the

0:31:05.240 --> 0:31:07.600
<v Speaker 1>one who reports to me, and every once in a

0:31:07.640 --> 0:31:10.040
<v Speaker 1>while house bas like. So it's really funny because this

0:31:10.080 --> 0:31:11.800
<v Speaker 1>is his version of like checking in on me. Will

0:31:11.800 --> 0:31:14.040
<v Speaker 1>be in the car going somewhere and he's like, so, like,

0:31:14.040 --> 0:31:18.240
<v Speaker 1>we're okay, right, bills are getting paid, right. I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:31:18.280 --> 0:31:20.280
<v Speaker 1>we're good. Just keep driving, you know what I mean.

0:31:21.040 --> 0:31:23.720
<v Speaker 1>But real estate, yes, I mean that would definitely be

0:31:24.000 --> 0:31:27.760
<v Speaker 1>just buying this house was stressful enough, deciding on the location,

0:31:28.120 --> 0:31:32.800
<v Speaker 1>what kind of home you know, those those that's it's Yes,

0:31:32.880 --> 0:31:33.520
<v Speaker 1>it's got to be.

0:31:33.520 --> 0:31:36.960
<v Speaker 2>Challenging as a couple, I will say, then when it

0:31:36.960 --> 0:31:41.040
<v Speaker 2>comes to buying an investment property, it's a lot less emotional.

0:31:41.840 --> 0:31:44.440
<v Speaker 2>And so I think that's where it does differ from

0:31:44.920 --> 0:31:47.640
<v Speaker 2>a your primary residence. Your primary residence, You're gonna wake

0:31:47.720 --> 0:31:50.080
<v Speaker 2>up every day there, like you're thinking about where you're

0:31:50.120 --> 0:31:52.480
<v Speaker 2>gonna put the kids room, where your office is going

0:31:52.560 --> 0:31:52.760
<v Speaker 2>to be.

0:31:52.960 --> 0:31:54.760
<v Speaker 3>How am I going to feel waking up? How is

0:31:54.760 --> 0:31:57.000
<v Speaker 3>it going to be entertaining what a rental property? You're like,

0:31:57.000 --> 0:31:58.200
<v Speaker 3>do these numbers make sense?

0:31:58.680 --> 0:32:02.440
<v Speaker 2>Like, dude, numbers make since well it appreciated that area,

0:32:02.920 --> 0:32:05.600
<v Speaker 2>Like does it all make sense? And like if it

0:32:05.640 --> 0:32:07.400
<v Speaker 2>all makes sense, then the motions are out of it

0:32:07.400 --> 0:32:09.280
<v Speaker 2>and you're just kind of like, this is a practical decision,

0:32:09.400 --> 0:32:11.280
<v Speaker 2>what needs to be done. You tackle it as a

0:32:11.280 --> 0:32:14.400
<v Speaker 2>project versus a passion. So I think that it is

0:32:14.520 --> 0:32:17.000
<v Speaker 2>easier working with a partner when it comes to it,

0:32:17.080 --> 0:32:20.560
<v Speaker 2>because it's just about like what makes financial sense, and

0:32:20.640 --> 0:32:22.240
<v Speaker 2>let's make it make financial sense.

0:32:23.080 --> 0:32:25.880
<v Speaker 1>So what are some of the early lessons you've learned

0:32:26.360 --> 0:32:29.040
<v Speaker 1>having now been a real estate entrepreneur for I don't

0:32:29.080 --> 0:32:32.600
<v Speaker 1>know how many months now, And you just said that

0:32:32.640 --> 0:32:34.520
<v Speaker 1>you were at the property today, so you're in the

0:32:34.560 --> 0:32:38.520
<v Speaker 1>midst of Renolds. Any Yeah, any little nuggets, any surprise

0:32:38.640 --> 0:32:39.240
<v Speaker 1>that started?

0:32:39.560 --> 0:32:42.680
<v Speaker 2>We started Renolds a week of Christmas, and they were

0:32:42.720 --> 0:32:44.720
<v Speaker 2>like literally working the day after Christmas on the property

0:32:44.760 --> 0:32:46.920
<v Speaker 2>and they're going to be done this week. So it's

0:32:46.960 --> 0:32:50.920
<v Speaker 2>been a relatively quick renovation considering we knocked down some walls,

0:32:51.000 --> 0:32:56.240
<v Speaker 2>we renovated three bathrooms, we renovated the kitchen, and we

0:32:56.360 --> 0:32:59.200
<v Speaker 2>created a short term unit downstairs. So we brought a

0:32:59.240 --> 0:33:02.160
<v Speaker 2>split level home and or the top unit is a

0:33:02.200 --> 0:33:04.360
<v Speaker 2>three to two, the bottom is a two to one.

0:33:04.440 --> 0:33:07.880
<v Speaker 2>I would be used as an Airbnb or housing for

0:33:08.080 --> 0:33:12.800
<v Speaker 2>traveling nurses. So what I have learned is your contractor.

0:33:13.320 --> 0:33:17.120
<v Speaker 2>Like everyone says like your contractor is essential, but your

0:33:17.120 --> 0:33:18.880
<v Speaker 2>contractor really is important to be able to have a

0:33:18.880 --> 0:33:21.520
<v Speaker 2>contractor that you can communicate with and keeps those lines

0:33:21.560 --> 0:33:25.440
<v Speaker 2>of communication as open as important staying on top of it.

0:33:25.920 --> 0:33:30.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I would have doing this property.

0:33:30.560 --> 0:33:32.880
<v Speaker 2>Before I did this property, I was open to investing

0:33:32.960 --> 0:33:37.280
<v Speaker 2>out of state. Now doing this property, I need my

0:33:38.760 --> 0:33:41.520
<v Speaker 2>control issues that I have. I need to invest in

0:33:41.560 --> 0:33:43.280
<v Speaker 2>the same state I live in. I need to be

0:33:43.360 --> 0:33:45.800
<v Speaker 2>in driving distance. Ideally I need to be twenty five

0:33:45.840 --> 0:33:49.160
<v Speaker 2>minutes from my house. Because even today I went to

0:33:49.200 --> 0:33:51.760
<v Speaker 2>the house and they had the vanity that I had

0:33:51.760 --> 0:33:55.120
<v Speaker 2>purchased for downstairs at Airbnb units. So it's like this

0:33:55.200 --> 0:33:57.520
<v Speaker 2>funky blue they had that up about to put it

0:33:57.560 --> 0:33:59.840
<v Speaker 2>in upstairs, and I'm like, no, this goes downstairs. Up

0:34:00.360 --> 0:34:02.880
<v Speaker 2>is going to be a traditional family home. Downstairs gonna

0:34:02.880 --> 0:34:04.800
<v Speaker 2>be a funky Airbnb. We do not need a blue

0:34:04.880 --> 0:34:07.800
<v Speaker 2>vanity up here, a white bandity, you know.

0:34:07.840 --> 0:34:09.080
<v Speaker 3>But just little things like that.

0:34:09.120 --> 0:34:10.799
<v Speaker 2>If I wasn't able to walk in and see what

0:34:10.840 --> 0:34:13.560
<v Speaker 2>they were doing, flooring, the flooring I wanted.

0:34:13.400 --> 0:34:16.279
<v Speaker 3>Was out of out of stock. She asked me if

0:34:16.280 --> 0:34:19.160
<v Speaker 3>I would be okay with a lighter flow color. I didn't. No,

0:34:19.200 --> 0:34:20.279
<v Speaker 3>lighter meant blonde.

0:34:20.480 --> 0:34:22.480
<v Speaker 2>So now I walk in and I thought I was

0:34:22.520 --> 0:34:24.920
<v Speaker 2>gonna have light wood, And now I have blonde floors,

0:34:25.120 --> 0:34:28.719
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, hold the countertops, hold the cabinet paint, Like,

0:34:28.880 --> 0:34:31.360
<v Speaker 2>we got to figure out what matches these blonde floors.

0:34:31.719 --> 0:34:34.720
<v Speaker 2>So I would say, like I do recommend for someone

0:34:34.760 --> 0:34:37.080
<v Speaker 2>to invest in their backyard. That's what I've learned, is

0:34:37.120 --> 0:34:40.239
<v Speaker 2>that for me, it's important because I'm very particular. So

0:34:40.600 --> 0:34:44.279
<v Speaker 2>like to understand what your control, your management style is.

0:34:44.320 --> 0:34:45.680
<v Speaker 2>Are you going to be particular or are you just

0:34:45.680 --> 0:34:47.439
<v Speaker 2>going to let things go. If you're not the let

0:34:47.440 --> 0:34:49.640
<v Speaker 2>things go type of person, invest in your backyard or

0:34:49.640 --> 0:34:51.920
<v Speaker 2>in your city or in your state. If you're kind

0:34:51.920 --> 0:34:54.640
<v Speaker 2>of like it would just work out whatever, then okay,

0:34:55.280 --> 0:34:57.799
<v Speaker 2>out of state works for you. So yeah, the contractor

0:34:58.120 --> 0:35:01.839
<v Speaker 2>determining where and how you want to invest. And then three, like,

0:35:01.880 --> 0:35:04.880
<v Speaker 2>really make sure you have a solid mentor or solid

0:35:04.960 --> 0:35:06.920
<v Speaker 2>friends that you can reach out to that do and

0:35:07.040 --> 0:35:10.479
<v Speaker 2>understand real estate. When we have quite a few friends

0:35:10.520 --> 0:35:12.200
<v Speaker 2>who are involved in real estate, and then I have

0:35:12.239 --> 0:35:14.839
<v Speaker 2>a real estate mentor. So even when we got our

0:35:14.880 --> 0:35:16.400
<v Speaker 2>first contracts.

0:35:16.000 --> 0:35:18.120
<v Speaker 3>Even when we were looking at the numbers and wanted

0:35:18.160 --> 0:35:20.120
<v Speaker 3>to make sure the numbers made sense, we ran to

0:35:20.120 --> 0:35:20.760
<v Speaker 3>buy our friends.

0:35:20.800 --> 0:35:23.160
<v Speaker 2>We ran a buy our mentor. When we were looking

0:35:23.239 --> 0:35:26.920
<v Speaker 2>at the budget from our general contractor and pricing things out.

0:35:27.040 --> 0:35:28.960
<v Speaker 2>We knew what to take out and give to another

0:35:29.040 --> 0:35:32.680
<v Speaker 2>contract or, a subcontractor, instead of having our general contractor

0:35:32.680 --> 0:35:34.440
<v Speaker 2>do it because we could get a better price on it.

0:35:34.640 --> 0:35:39.120
<v Speaker 2>Our general contractor was going to charge us like ten

0:35:39.160 --> 0:35:41.319
<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars to do our roof. We found someone else

0:35:41.360 --> 0:35:43.560
<v Speaker 2>who did our room for five thousand dollars and someone

0:35:43.600 --> 0:35:45.319
<v Speaker 2>told us like, hey, that's a lot of money. She

0:35:45.440 --> 0:35:47.399
<v Speaker 2>was going to charge us eleven thousand dollars to paint

0:35:47.400 --> 0:35:49.520
<v Speaker 2>the exterior. Someone was like, that's a lot of money.

0:35:49.640 --> 0:35:52.120
<v Speaker 2>Found someone to do our exterior paint for fifty seven

0:35:52.080 --> 0:35:55.640
<v Speaker 2>to fifty So if we didn't have someone to run

0:35:55.680 --> 0:35:59.040
<v Speaker 2>those numbers by, we would have been significantly over budget.

0:35:59.200 --> 0:36:01.880
<v Speaker 2>But having so it was really important to have like

0:36:02.040 --> 0:36:04.600
<v Speaker 2>those those relationships, those people that we could reach out

0:36:04.640 --> 0:36:05.880
<v Speaker 2>to that ca can you just look over with this

0:36:05.920 --> 0:36:08.440
<v Speaker 2>budget for us really quick and let us know and

0:36:08.520 --> 0:36:12.320
<v Speaker 2>even then there's still gonna be stuff. We're still over budget,

0:36:12.640 --> 0:36:13.680
<v Speaker 2>Like we're.

0:36:13.560 --> 0:36:17.160
<v Speaker 1>Just about to see how's that budget? Twenty thousand were

0:36:17.440 --> 0:36:21.680
<v Speaker 1>money when we were doing our we were doing our renovation,

0:36:21.800 --> 0:36:24.880
<v Speaker 1>our contractor, like anytime we wanted to. We got the

0:36:24.920 --> 0:36:27.840
<v Speaker 1>counter somewhere else. He was like so offended every time.

0:36:28.239 --> 0:36:30.880
<v Speaker 1>And I feel like getting someone with the right attitude

0:36:30.920 --> 0:36:32.799
<v Speaker 1>of like knowing that you're on a budget and that

0:36:32.840 --> 0:36:36.120
<v Speaker 1>you may go outside of them for certain yeah, you know,

0:36:36.120 --> 0:36:37.000
<v Speaker 1>because every time.

0:36:36.800 --> 0:36:40.520
<v Speaker 3>It was too but girls, okay, this is not your money.

0:36:40.520 --> 0:36:40.839
<v Speaker 3>We had.

0:36:40.960 --> 0:36:43.799
<v Speaker 2>Oh I've never worked like this before. Really, I don't

0:36:43.840 --> 0:36:46.680
<v Speaker 2>believe that. I'm sure everybody else is financially conscious. It's

0:36:46.680 --> 0:36:47.640
<v Speaker 2>financially mindful.

0:36:48.160 --> 0:36:51.880
<v Speaker 3>I don't believe that. So they're gonna feel how they feel.

0:36:53.480 --> 0:36:54.360
<v Speaker 3>It's not your money.

0:36:54.800 --> 0:36:55.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad.

0:36:55.120 --> 0:36:58.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean to like pay you, you know, so they will.

0:37:00.160 --> 0:37:02.680
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, we're over budget, but I can say that

0:37:02.760 --> 0:37:05.360
<v Speaker 2>with a smile on my face because we had the

0:37:05.400 --> 0:37:06.560
<v Speaker 2>money going into it.

0:37:06.600 --> 0:37:09.320
<v Speaker 3>We had the money in the account to do certain things.

0:37:09.600 --> 0:37:12.960
<v Speaker 2>And the over budget is actually coming from converting the

0:37:13.040 --> 0:37:16.239
<v Speaker 2>short term unit downstairs. If we were not creating a

0:37:16.320 --> 0:37:18.759
<v Speaker 2>whole separate unit, we would not be over budget. But

0:37:18.760 --> 0:37:21.279
<v Speaker 2>because we had to install an HVAC system downstairs, which

0:37:21.320 --> 0:37:23.640
<v Speaker 2>we didn't including the budget, we didn't think about it like, oh,

0:37:23.960 --> 0:37:27.400
<v Speaker 2>downstairs can't have the same HVAC as upstairs. So like

0:37:27.480 --> 0:37:31.160
<v Speaker 2>we didn't include an HVAC unit in that. There were

0:37:31.440 --> 0:37:35.160
<v Speaker 2>some other things that we thought that like windows. I

0:37:35.239 --> 0:37:37.080
<v Speaker 2>just didn't realize how much it bothered me that we

0:37:37.120 --> 0:37:40.719
<v Speaker 2>had old wooden windows in our in the house. So

0:37:40.760 --> 0:37:43.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm doing complete window replacement for vinyl windows because they

0:37:43.960 --> 0:37:46.520
<v Speaker 2>previously had wood windows which had you know, all the

0:37:46.600 --> 0:37:48.799
<v Speaker 2>layers of paint over them. Can't even open the window

0:37:48.840 --> 0:37:50.640
<v Speaker 2>because it's been painted on so many times. It's like

0:37:50.880 --> 0:37:53.040
<v Speaker 2>people can't live in Atlanta and not open the windows.

0:37:53.160 --> 0:37:56.520
<v Speaker 2>They just they can't. So replacing windows. So some of

0:37:56.560 --> 0:37:58.480
<v Speaker 2>the things were my like we weren't going to tear

0:37:58.480 --> 0:38:01.440
<v Speaker 2>the cabinets out in our kitchen. Once I got in

0:38:01.480 --> 0:38:04.120
<v Speaker 2>there saw the water damage, I was like, no, these

0:38:04.160 --> 0:38:06.879
<v Speaker 2>cabinets got to go. We can't establish these cabinets, tore

0:38:06.920 --> 0:38:09.560
<v Speaker 2>the cabinets out, or replacing a cabinet. So it's things

0:38:09.600 --> 0:38:11.560
<v Speaker 2>like that that sent us over budget. But we know

0:38:11.640 --> 0:38:14.080
<v Speaker 2>that the airbnb downstairs on a low month is going

0:38:14.120 --> 0:38:16.920
<v Speaker 2>to bring in additional nine hundred dollars on top of

0:38:16.920 --> 0:38:19.239
<v Speaker 2>what the top unit brings in which the top unit

0:38:19.280 --> 0:38:22.000
<v Speaker 2>covers a mortgage, So an additional nine hundred dollars to

0:38:22.000 --> 0:38:25.359
<v Speaker 2>an additional twenty five hundred dollars a month. I'm okay

0:38:25.440 --> 0:38:28.200
<v Speaker 2>with being twenty five hundred dollars over because that is

0:38:28.239 --> 0:38:30.799
<v Speaker 2>going to be replaid by the end of this year.

0:38:31.200 --> 0:38:32.520
<v Speaker 3>So drink.

0:38:33.320 --> 0:38:35.800
<v Speaker 1>My little brother is building a house outside of not

0:38:35.880 --> 0:38:39.439
<v Speaker 1>out in Atlanta, East Atlanta, and he is so yeah,

0:38:39.480 --> 0:38:40.920
<v Speaker 1>he's so smart. I don't know if y'all should like

0:38:40.920 --> 0:38:44.120
<v Speaker 1>be friends on I love East Atlanta. Yeah, he and

0:38:44.160 --> 0:38:46.160
<v Speaker 1>he got the Atlanta of my dreams. Like you know,

0:38:46.200 --> 0:38:49.080
<v Speaker 1>because I was twenty ten graduating college two thousand and nine,

0:38:49.120 --> 0:38:50.520
<v Speaker 1>I was like, gone, get me out of here Atlanta

0:38:50.520 --> 0:38:52.080
<v Speaker 1>and was not as hot as it is now. But

0:38:52.200 --> 0:38:54.400
<v Speaker 1>now I'm like, damn to be young and black in Atlanta.

0:38:54.800 --> 0:38:57.840
<v Speaker 1>Just live in the dream. But anyway, so he yes,

0:38:57.880 --> 0:39:00.560
<v Speaker 1>and he's building a house and he's building a whole

0:39:00.840 --> 0:39:03.480
<v Speaker 1>guesthouse in the back just for Airbnb, and I'm like

0:39:03.520 --> 0:39:05.480
<v Speaker 1>the potential. I'm so proud of them.

0:39:05.560 --> 0:39:08.560
<v Speaker 3>So the treehouse I stayed at here. That's what they did.

0:39:08.680 --> 0:39:11.240
<v Speaker 2>They built a treehouse and it was in East Atlanta

0:39:11.520 --> 0:39:14.480
<v Speaker 2>and they built a treehouse and it was It's breathtaking.

0:39:14.560 --> 0:39:17.640
<v Speaker 3>They have a bandy, they have emos running around.

0:39:17.719 --> 0:39:20.000
<v Speaker 2>It's called it Email brands have emos running around this

0:39:20.080 --> 0:39:24.359
<v Speaker 2>treehouse like in East Atlanta. It's it's remarkable what they've done.

0:39:24.440 --> 0:39:27.160
<v Speaker 2>The potential is endless. Like the next house I get.

0:39:27.719 --> 0:39:31.320
<v Speaker 2>I do not want to be in a hoa community

0:39:31.400 --> 0:39:34.160
<v Speaker 2>because if I want to build a treehouse in my

0:39:34.200 --> 0:39:36.239
<v Speaker 2>backyard that I run out on Airbnb, I don't want

0:39:36.239 --> 0:39:38.400
<v Speaker 2>you to tell me that it's against the community high ordinance.

0:39:38.920 --> 0:39:40.880
<v Speaker 3>So your brother's doing it right.

0:39:41.840 --> 0:39:45.799
<v Speaker 1>Well, tell me really quickly about the search for the house,

0:39:45.800 --> 0:39:47.680
<v Speaker 1>because I know Atlanta and this is not for anyone

0:39:47.719 --> 0:39:50.280
<v Speaker 1>listening in other cities, any big city. It just feels

0:39:50.320 --> 0:39:53.120
<v Speaker 1>like post pandemic that the real estate market was crazy.

0:39:53.640 --> 0:39:55.760
<v Speaker 1>My dad was trying to buy a house outside of Atlanta.

0:39:55.800 --> 0:39:58.000
<v Speaker 1>It took him six months to get something he could afford.

0:39:58.080 --> 0:40:00.719
<v Speaker 1>So what was that process like, And any tips for

0:40:00.760 --> 0:40:03.520
<v Speaker 1>folks who are like researching real estate properties right now

0:40:03.600 --> 0:40:06.359
<v Speaker 1>and feel like they are like never going to find

0:40:06.360 --> 0:40:08.560
<v Speaker 1>that sweet spot As far as price.

0:40:08.680 --> 0:40:12.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well yeah it was. It was definitely a seller's

0:40:12.120 --> 0:40:14.160
<v Speaker 2>market when we bought. But that's the power of having

0:40:14.200 --> 0:40:16.319
<v Speaker 2>a mentor. My mentor gave me a strategy. She was like,

0:40:16.719 --> 0:40:18.759
<v Speaker 2>we bought the house off the MLS we didn't go

0:40:18.800 --> 0:40:21.600
<v Speaker 2>to a wholesaler. It wasn't we weren't driving around looking

0:40:21.600 --> 0:40:24.000
<v Speaker 2>for numbers. But the strategy is there are going to

0:40:24.040 --> 0:40:27.600
<v Speaker 2>be houses that are beautiful on Zilo, and like everybody

0:40:27.600 --> 0:40:29.759
<v Speaker 2>wants that house. Look for the ugly house on Zillo

0:40:30.080 --> 0:40:32.200
<v Speaker 2>that's been listed for that's been on there for like

0:40:32.239 --> 0:40:33.120
<v Speaker 2>a couple of weeks.

0:40:33.400 --> 0:40:35.120
<v Speaker 3>Because nobody check out for the ugly house.

0:40:35.160 --> 0:40:37.160
<v Speaker 2>They not even like our house had like five saves,

0:40:37.200 --> 0:40:38.920
<v Speaker 2>but it had been on it had been there for

0:40:38.960 --> 0:40:39.920
<v Speaker 2>like three weeks, only.

0:40:39.760 --> 0:40:40.680
<v Speaker 3>Had five saves.

0:40:40.880 --> 0:40:44.399
<v Speaker 2>So the seller was getting desperate and they were kind

0:40:44.440 --> 0:40:46.720
<v Speaker 2>of like, well nobody was really checking for the house.

0:40:47.200 --> 0:40:49.720
<v Speaker 2>And we got a diamond, Like we got a diamond

0:40:49.719 --> 0:40:52.160
<v Speaker 2>in the rough. And then once we went into our

0:40:52.200 --> 0:40:54.560
<v Speaker 2>strategy was really looked for the ugly house on Zillo

0:40:55.080 --> 0:40:56.920
<v Speaker 2>and look for the house that has potential for us

0:40:56.960 --> 0:41:00.319
<v Speaker 2>to be able to expand and forced appreciation because something

0:41:00.360 --> 0:41:02.360
<v Speaker 2>to think about it when we think about forced appreciation,

0:41:02.480 --> 0:41:06.719
<v Speaker 2>forced appreciation means you are able to do renovations that

0:41:06.760 --> 0:41:08.799
<v Speaker 2>take the home value up so that it gives you

0:41:08.840 --> 0:41:12.200
<v Speaker 2>almost instant equity. And so by us turning the bottom

0:41:12.239 --> 0:41:14.320
<v Speaker 2>level and renovating the house and then turning the bottom

0:41:14.400 --> 0:41:17.440
<v Speaker 2>level into an airbnb or short term rental. Now we've

0:41:17.480 --> 0:41:20.560
<v Speaker 2>added additional like additional value to that home.

0:41:20.600 --> 0:41:21.759
<v Speaker 3>So we forced appreciation.

0:41:22.040 --> 0:41:23.719
<v Speaker 2>So when you find these ugly homes, that's why you

0:41:23.760 --> 0:41:26.360
<v Speaker 2>used to see those we buy ugly houses signs, because

0:41:26.400 --> 0:41:28.920
<v Speaker 2>the ugly house is undervalued, and once you make the

0:41:29.000 --> 0:41:32.320
<v Speaker 2>house more beautiful, you increase the value of that house.

0:41:32.840 --> 0:41:34.080
<v Speaker 3>So that was our strategy.

0:41:34.120 --> 0:41:35.919
<v Speaker 2>Look for the ugly house on Zillo and the house

0:41:35.960 --> 0:41:37.399
<v Speaker 2>has been listed for three weeks or more.

0:41:38.520 --> 0:41:40.640
<v Speaker 1>We found an ugly house too. It was the only

0:41:40.640 --> 0:41:43.840
<v Speaker 1>one we could afford. It made it very easy, made.

0:41:43.640 --> 0:41:44.440
<v Speaker 3>It very easy.

0:41:44.560 --> 0:41:46.359
<v Speaker 2>And I mean and now, like that's the thing when

0:41:46.960 --> 0:41:50.000
<v Speaker 2>like when Kamari is looking Kamori is my husband's name,

0:41:50.040 --> 0:41:52.960
<v Speaker 2>So Whenkamari is looking at Zillow or looking at stuff

0:41:53.040 --> 0:41:54.719
<v Speaker 2>or we get listings or whatever, I'm like, how long

0:41:54.800 --> 0:41:56.480
<v Speaker 2>has it been on the market? First question? I asked,

0:41:56.520 --> 0:41:57.960
<v Speaker 2>if it's been on the market for the like the

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<v Speaker 2>first week. I'm not gonna call them.

0:42:00.000 --> 0:42:01.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to smell a little stale, you know,

0:42:01.600 --> 0:42:02.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't wanna smell a little stale.

0:42:03.160 --> 0:42:06.920
<v Speaker 2>I want something a little like They're like, this house

0:42:06.960 --> 0:42:08.680
<v Speaker 2>has been listed for three weeks and we are just

0:42:08.760 --> 0:42:11.840
<v Speaker 2>looking for a buyer, anyone, please, Like that's who I want.

0:42:12.040 --> 0:42:14.760
<v Speaker 3>I don't want the girl that everybody's asking out.

0:42:14.960 --> 0:42:16.920
<v Speaker 1>I want to sound that scammy, but you're not scamming.

0:42:17.960 --> 0:42:19.240
<v Speaker 3>Scammy, not scammy.

0:42:19.320 --> 0:42:21.400
<v Speaker 2>And we we we our house like we bought it

0:42:21.440 --> 0:42:24.360
<v Speaker 2>from a older woman who her husband had passed away.

0:42:24.719 --> 0:42:26.480
<v Speaker 2>She had heard the house from her aunt and she

0:42:26.600 --> 0:42:29.680
<v Speaker 2>just couldn't take care of it anymore. And we bought

0:42:29.680 --> 0:42:32.239
<v Speaker 2>it from her, and like she walked away with a

0:42:32.320 --> 0:42:35.640
<v Speaker 2>check from it, and we walked away with our first property.

0:42:35.680 --> 0:42:38.000
<v Speaker 2>That I'm in love that, Like how you have an

0:42:38.040 --> 0:42:40.960
<v Speaker 2>affinity for your first home, like I have an affinity

0:42:40.960 --> 0:42:44.480
<v Speaker 2>for my first investment property, Like that's truly my first baby,

0:42:44.680 --> 0:42:49.799
<v Speaker 2>because I feel like I created something beautiful out of

0:42:50.800 --> 0:42:54.080
<v Speaker 2>something that was a little you know, she want that cute.

0:42:54.719 --> 0:42:56.520
<v Speaker 1>You got the bug. I can already feel it. You

0:42:56.560 --> 0:42:59.080
<v Speaker 1>got now you see like the makeover, the real estate

0:42:59.120 --> 0:42:59.799
<v Speaker 1>makeover bug.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm blown away every time I walk in, Like

0:43:03.080 --> 0:43:05.360
<v Speaker 2>even today I was there, I was like, oh my gosh,

0:43:05.480 --> 0:43:07.960
<v Speaker 2>this had ugly wood paneling all around, and now it's

0:43:08.080 --> 0:43:11.319
<v Speaker 2>light and bright and vibrant and has modern trim and

0:43:11.520 --> 0:43:14.000
<v Speaker 2>a charcoal fireplace like it's the bomb.

0:43:14.320 --> 0:43:16.400
<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to see the Airbnb photos too. I

0:43:16.400 --> 0:43:18.680
<v Speaker 1>know you're gonna get a good photog when do you So?

0:43:18.719 --> 0:43:20.480
<v Speaker 1>How quickly are you looking to flip it?

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<v Speaker 3>So we are we.

0:43:21.920 --> 0:43:23.919
<v Speaker 2>Are gonna flip. We're doing buy a hold. So I'm

0:43:23.960 --> 0:43:26.239
<v Speaker 2>doing buying a hold strategy. So there are two strategies.

0:43:26.280 --> 0:43:29.600
<v Speaker 2>There's flipping where you get in forced appreciation reselling somebod

0:43:29.600 --> 0:43:32.000
<v Speaker 2>ad buys it, and then there's buying and holding.

0:43:32.000 --> 0:43:33.480
<v Speaker 3>And that's my strategy.

0:43:33.000 --> 0:43:36.160
<v Speaker 2>Because I want to build a real estate portfolio because

0:43:36.200 --> 0:43:40.160
<v Speaker 2>I really want that passive income to cover my bills.

0:43:40.160 --> 0:43:41.239
<v Speaker 3>One of the things that my fra.

0:43:43.000 --> 0:43:45.359
<v Speaker 1>Huh you said, Sorry to interrupt you. I just wanted

0:43:45.400 --> 0:43:46.919
<v Speaker 1>to go back. That's right. You said you were doing

0:43:46.920 --> 0:43:49.160
<v Speaker 1>burr brur so burr.

0:43:49.360 --> 0:43:52.040
<v Speaker 2>So for me, burr is I repeat the process. But

0:43:52.080 --> 0:43:54.120
<v Speaker 2>it also means that I'm going to hold the property

0:43:54.200 --> 0:43:57.839
<v Speaker 2>in my Portfoka. And so my friend Kindred, I remember

0:43:57.880 --> 0:44:00.120
<v Speaker 2>I was having a conversation with her and some I

0:44:00.200 --> 0:44:02.560
<v Speaker 2>was trying to buy her company. Then we were just

0:44:02.600 --> 0:44:04.600
<v Speaker 2>talking and she was like, you know, I'm not taking

0:44:04.680 --> 0:44:06.759
<v Speaker 2>just anything like my properties paying my.

0:44:06.719 --> 0:44:08.960
<v Speaker 3>Bills like this is I don't, I'm not. And I

0:44:09.080 --> 0:44:11.800
<v Speaker 3>was just like, ooh, what a flex.

0:44:13.120 --> 0:44:16.080
<v Speaker 2>Pay my bills like, And so that's that's what I'm

0:44:16.080 --> 0:44:18.920
<v Speaker 2>working on, is like having enough passive income through real

0:44:19.040 --> 0:44:20.880
<v Speaker 2>estate to cover my monthly overhead.

0:44:22.320 --> 0:44:23.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm just buying what I can buy. That's why the

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<v Speaker 3>next one is going to be a multifamily.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, the multifamily that's the one. And you said

0:44:29.160 --> 0:44:30.799
<v Speaker 1>you took a course on that or your friend has

0:44:30.880 --> 0:44:34.480
<v Speaker 1>like a multifamily buyer's course something like that.

0:44:34.600 --> 0:44:38.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Julian, So they call him mister Multifamily, Julian Gordon,

0:44:38.480 --> 0:44:43.040
<v Speaker 2>multifamily mastermind, multifamily movement. Think his website is the Freedom School.

0:44:43.280 --> 0:44:45.959
<v Speaker 2>He has so many different aliases, but so if.

0:44:45.840 --> 0:44:47.600
<v Speaker 3>You look any of those up, you'll find Julian.

0:44:48.360 --> 0:44:52.319
<v Speaker 2>But Julian, his whole thing is like turning like he

0:44:52.360 --> 0:44:54.920
<v Speaker 2>has single moms in there, he has single women, he

0:44:54.960 --> 0:44:57.160
<v Speaker 2>has husband and wives, he has single men in there.

0:44:57.480 --> 0:44:59.239
<v Speaker 2>And his whole goal is to help a thousand people

0:44:59.320 --> 0:45:01.919
<v Speaker 2>purchase a multi family property to help them leverage for

0:45:02.440 --> 0:45:04.719
<v Speaker 2>a larger real estate portfolio. So I think right now

0:45:04.719 --> 0:45:08.960
<v Speaker 2>he's up to like two hundred and seventy four closings

0:45:09.680 --> 0:45:13.680
<v Speaker 2>in his community, but two hundred and seventy four black

0:45:13.680 --> 0:45:17.080
<v Speaker 2>people have purchased multi family properties in his program so far,

0:45:17.560 --> 0:45:18.760
<v Speaker 2>which is powerful.

0:45:21.120 --> 0:45:23.120
<v Speaker 1>That is powerful, And even as I'm sitting here, I'm like, oh,

0:45:23.160 --> 0:45:26.680
<v Speaker 1>multi family now, that's next level. That's like landlord of

0:45:26.760 --> 0:45:29.600
<v Speaker 1>multiple tenants. Like sounds like a headache. But then I'm

0:45:29.640 --> 0:45:31.799
<v Speaker 1>just going back. I'm like, who taught me to talk

0:45:31.840 --> 0:45:35.279
<v Speaker 1>myself out of being a quadruplex? I didn't know that

0:45:35.320 --> 0:45:37.120
<v Speaker 1>was even a word in the English dictionary, but now

0:45:37.120 --> 0:45:37.279
<v Speaker 1>I know.

0:45:37.760 --> 0:45:41.960
<v Speaker 2>Quplex is not it is, but you know, you screen

0:45:42.040 --> 0:45:44.320
<v Speaker 2>your tenants, You screen your tenants, you get good people

0:45:44.360 --> 0:45:47.640
<v Speaker 2>in there. And it's the original house hack. I'm my

0:45:47.680 --> 0:45:50.439
<v Speaker 2>friend Kindred. That's how they they have a property in DC.

0:45:50.600 --> 0:45:52.480
<v Speaker 2>They had a multi family they had and they had

0:45:52.480 --> 0:45:54.759
<v Speaker 2>their tenants paying the mortgage and they were able to

0:45:54.800 --> 0:45:57.400
<v Speaker 2>save their money and leverage that to go buy more properties.

0:45:57.800 --> 0:46:01.400
<v Speaker 2>And so it and you can use FAH loan to

0:46:01.520 --> 0:46:04.319
<v Speaker 2>do it. The FAHA will give you up to you

0:46:04.320 --> 0:46:06.799
<v Speaker 2>can buy the four units with three point five percent down.

0:46:07.080 --> 0:46:08.360
<v Speaker 2>So if you think about it, if you try to

0:46:08.360 --> 0:46:10.840
<v Speaker 2>put twenty percent down on something that costs six hundred

0:46:10.840 --> 0:46:13.839
<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars versus three point five percent down on something

0:46:13.880 --> 0:46:16.120
<v Speaker 2>that costs six hundred thousand dollars. We're looking at the

0:46:16.120 --> 0:46:18.759
<v Speaker 2>difference between like twenty five thousand and one hundred and

0:46:18.840 --> 0:46:22.920
<v Speaker 2>twenty thousand dollars down, significant difference to think that you

0:46:23.000 --> 0:46:26.919
<v Speaker 2>can get into an income generating asset that is four

0:46:27.080 --> 0:46:30.440
<v Speaker 2>units for less than twenty five thousand dollars.

0:46:31.000 --> 0:46:34.640
<v Speaker 3>Like why, Like when I found out, I was.

0:46:34.600 --> 0:46:39.319
<v Speaker 2>Like, what, K, poor, K, what do you mean that

0:46:39.400 --> 0:46:40.120
<v Speaker 2>I could do that?

0:46:40.239 --> 0:46:42.680
<v Speaker 3>Like it's really a powerful tool.

0:46:43.200 --> 0:46:46.160
<v Speaker 2>And I advise anybody who's open to it, like, please

0:46:46.160 --> 0:46:48.400
<v Speaker 2>don't talk yourself out of it, because I wish I

0:46:48.440 --> 0:46:50.279
<v Speaker 2>would have done that in New York. Like I wish

0:46:50.320 --> 0:46:51.920
<v Speaker 2>when I was living in New York, I knew that

0:46:52.000 --> 0:46:53.600
<v Speaker 2>I could buy a multi family and only have to

0:46:53.600 --> 0:46:57.200
<v Speaker 2>put three point five percent down, I probably would have

0:46:57.200 --> 0:46:58.200
<v Speaker 2>been a landlord a lot sooner.

0:46:58.239 --> 0:47:00.239
<v Speaker 1>But also even three point five percent of a proper

0:47:00.280 --> 0:47:02.279
<v Speaker 1>to New York, that's very different than three I mean,

0:47:02.400 --> 0:47:04.400
<v Speaker 1>it's very different.

0:47:04.840 --> 0:47:10.200
<v Speaker 2>It is you moved to Knarsie. There's still places where

0:47:12.200 --> 0:47:15.319
<v Speaker 2>you know, there's still some areas in New York. I

0:47:15.320 --> 0:47:17.319
<v Speaker 2>think East New York is now starting to come around,

0:47:17.360 --> 0:47:22.080
<v Speaker 2>but there's still some areas in New York where you know,

0:47:22.640 --> 0:47:25.719
<v Speaker 2>it is not as expensive, like living in Bedstock or

0:47:25.880 --> 0:47:26.560
<v Speaker 2>like established.

0:47:26.719 --> 0:47:28.799
<v Speaker 1>We're just saying, stay in Atlanta. No, no, no, Tony,

0:47:28.840 --> 0:47:29.760
<v Speaker 1>you got to stay in Atlanta.

0:47:30.560 --> 0:47:32.879
<v Speaker 3>You're not coming. I'm not coming.

0:47:33.000 --> 0:47:34.760
<v Speaker 2>You can't pay me to go back to New York.

0:47:35.480 --> 0:47:37.560
<v Speaker 2>You I'm southern, I am.

0:47:40.320 --> 0:47:43.000
<v Speaker 3>No. Okay, I'm looking at that snowstorm.

0:47:43.400 --> 0:47:46.240
<v Speaker 2>I was like, no, I'm already going to the grocery

0:47:46.280 --> 0:47:48.799
<v Speaker 2>store in a firm when it's twenty seven degrees here,

0:47:48.840 --> 0:47:49.160
<v Speaker 2>I will.

0:47:49.200 --> 0:47:51.000
<v Speaker 3>I can't. I'm not built for it anymore.

0:47:51.040 --> 0:47:53.680
<v Speaker 1>Man, I know how quickly they turn. That's okay, Well,

0:47:53.719 --> 0:47:56.000
<v Speaker 1>take care of Atlanta for me, take care of Atlanta,

0:47:56.040 --> 0:48:00.000
<v Speaker 1>take care of my city. Say hi hopefully, well, hopefully

0:48:00.040 --> 0:48:03.279
<v Speaker 1>I'll see you soon again in Atlanta. Yes, I will

0:48:03.360 --> 0:48:04.799
<v Speaker 1>definitely be down visiting very soon.

0:48:05.400 --> 0:48:08.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think so much for your brother's Airbnb. I'm

0:48:08.680 --> 0:48:10.359
<v Speaker 3>excited for him. I'm excited for you.

0:48:10.680 --> 0:48:12.319
<v Speaker 1>I feel like y'all should Yeah. I feel like y'all

0:48:12.320 --> 0:48:15.120
<v Speaker 1>shoul link up because he's he's he's on mogul, he's

0:48:15.120 --> 0:48:17.160
<v Speaker 1>on that quiet he's not as loud as I am.

0:48:17.239 --> 0:48:19.719
<v Speaker 1>About my about my goals, but he's always like quietly

0:48:19.920 --> 0:48:22.239
<v Speaker 1>becoming a mogul in the background. I'm very proud of him.

0:48:23.400 --> 0:48:25.240
<v Speaker 1>But can I just say thank you again for joining

0:48:25.239 --> 0:48:28.520
<v Speaker 1>Brown Ambition. Finally, oh my, finally, It's.

0:48:28.320 --> 0:48:30.480
<v Speaker 2>Been such a thrill that I hope people got value

0:48:30.480 --> 0:48:32.560
<v Speaker 2>out of this because we're just friends having a conversation.

0:48:33.000 --> 0:48:35.120
<v Speaker 1>So I think our value out of this, I know

0:48:35.200 --> 0:48:37.879
<v Speaker 1>I did. That's what I care about. No, I feel

0:48:37.920 --> 0:48:40.239
<v Speaker 1>like for anyone the messages, you know, and this is

0:48:40.360 --> 0:48:42.359
<v Speaker 1>especially it was good for me too, because I do

0:48:42.400 --> 0:48:44.080
<v Speaker 1>feel like real estate. Like I said, it's something that

0:48:44.080 --> 0:48:46.080
<v Speaker 1>I started to kind of just put on the back

0:48:46.120 --> 0:48:49.719
<v Speaker 1>burner as a possibility. But thanks for giving me some

0:48:49.920 --> 0:48:51.839
<v Speaker 1>room to dream a little bit about it. And even

0:48:51.880 --> 0:48:53.960
<v Speaker 1>if I don't buy a property this year, which I

0:48:54.000 --> 0:48:57.879
<v Speaker 1>definitely probably won't, you know, a couple of years, I'll

0:48:57.880 --> 0:49:00.200
<v Speaker 1>think about this conversation and maybe even I'll take some

0:49:00.200 --> 0:49:03.600
<v Speaker 1>steps today like anyone listening, to start researching what the

0:49:03.600 --> 0:49:06.160
<v Speaker 1>potential is, what options are out there. It's not like

0:49:06.200 --> 0:49:06.799
<v Speaker 1>you have to.

0:49:07.640 --> 0:49:09.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, don't count yourself out.

0:49:09.480 --> 0:49:12.480
<v Speaker 2>I just remember I had that I had a housing

0:49:13.080 --> 0:49:15.279
<v Speaker 2>event in New York City. A couple of years ago

0:49:15.320 --> 0:49:17.319
<v Speaker 2>before I left and you came to the event. I

0:49:17.360 --> 0:49:20.400
<v Speaker 2>remember that, like you left the event and found and

0:49:20.440 --> 0:49:22.680
<v Speaker 2>like you were counting yourself on then and left the

0:49:22.719 --> 0:49:27.440
<v Speaker 2>event and found out that you were actually like financially

0:49:27.520 --> 0:49:30.920
<v Speaker 2>ready to buy a house, like when you left that, like, oh,

0:49:30.920 --> 0:49:33.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm actually in a place where like we could buy.

0:49:33.400 --> 0:49:34.920
<v Speaker 3>You know, it's a matter of you coming around and

0:49:34.960 --> 0:49:35.719
<v Speaker 3>being ready to buy.

0:49:35.880 --> 0:49:37.600
<v Speaker 1>It was mentally preparing myself.

0:49:37.760 --> 0:49:42.880
<v Speaker 3>Yes, don't count yourself out. Yes, yeah, of creating more

0:49:42.920 --> 0:49:43.719
<v Speaker 3>passive income for.

0:49:43.680 --> 0:49:47.400
<v Speaker 1>Yourself, whatever it is. I mean, whether it is passive

0:49:47.400 --> 0:49:50.160
<v Speaker 1>income from real estate. I mean, as you've shown passive

0:49:50.160 --> 0:49:54.720
<v Speaker 1>income from leveraging your your brand to book half million

0:49:54.800 --> 0:49:57.600
<v Speaker 1>dollar brand partnerships. I mean, can we talk about goals?

0:49:58.160 --> 0:50:00.480
<v Speaker 1>Like so proud of you and you're also that you

0:50:00.480 --> 0:50:03.200
<v Speaker 1>can be all these different things at different times in

0:50:03.200 --> 0:50:04.880
<v Speaker 1>your life. You don't have to just choose one and

0:50:04.920 --> 0:50:08.040
<v Speaker 1>stay in your lane. You can be so like many things.

0:50:10.280 --> 0:50:13.160
<v Speaker 1>I wish we could keep talking forever, But thank you again, Tonia.

0:50:13.160 --> 0:50:15.239
<v Speaker 1>Any what do you want to promote? What do you

0:50:15.239 --> 0:50:16.680
<v Speaker 1>want to shout out? Where can people find you?

0:50:17.360 --> 0:50:17.520
<v Speaker 3>Oh?

0:50:17.600 --> 0:50:19.440
<v Speaker 2>So people can find me, you know outside of I

0:50:19.440 --> 0:50:22.319
<v Speaker 2>don't do real estate. I'm a financial educator and one

0:50:22.320 --> 0:50:24.120
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0:50:24.239 --> 0:50:27.160
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0:50:27.200 --> 0:50:29.600
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0:50:29.640 --> 0:50:32.400
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0:50:32.400 --> 0:50:36.279
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0:50:36.360 --> 0:50:38.920
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0:50:43.200 --> 0:50:44.799
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0:50:44.800 --> 0:50:47.600
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0:50:47.680 --> 0:50:50.000
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0:50:50.040 --> 0:50:51.759
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0:50:51.800 --> 0:50:53.840
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0:51:12.080 --> 0:51:13.640
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0:51:13.680 --> 0:51:16.480
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<v Speaker 1>I'm always interested in what Tanya's up to, what she's wearing.

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<v Speaker 1>How cute her son is. What's your son's name again,

0:51:26.719 --> 0:51:30.000
<v Speaker 1>Kars Caros? Okay, well that's just like your husband's name,

0:51:30.040 --> 0:51:35.680
<v Speaker 1>Kavaris Kamar girl, Sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, his name is Kamari, And yeah, my son's name

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<v Speaker 2>is cars and so that's my joy. No matter what

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<v Speaker 1>while she's out, so take care and for the rest

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<v Speaker 1>Brown Ambition Podcast, and we'll see y'all next week