WEBVTT - Health & Hype - Lab 109 0:00:03.680 --> 0:00:09.960 I'm Tt and I'm Zakiyah, and this is Dope Labs. 0:00:11.360 --> 0:00:14.560 Welcome to Dope Labs, a weekly podcast that mixes hardcore 0:00:14.680 --> 0:00:17.639 science with pop culture and a healthy dose of friendship. 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:25.000 This week, we're running you through some of what we've 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:28.400 been seeing in our notifications, from our news app and 0:00:28.560 --> 0:00:32.559 on our timelines. We've been traveling a lot, but luckily 0:00:32.680 --> 0:00:35.519 we've been traveling together because we've been working on our 0:00:35.520 --> 0:00:39.000 planetarium film with the Museum of Science in Boston. Yeah. 0:00:39.000 --> 0:00:42.720 I got to DCA, one of my local airports the 0:00:42.760 --> 0:00:48.040 other morning, and I immediately text you, Zakia, because it 0:00:48.159 --> 0:00:51.640 was nasty in there. Everybody was coughing, everybody was sneezing, 0:00:51.720 --> 0:00:55.000 everybody's noses were running. I saw a few people wipe 0:00:55.000 --> 0:00:58.120 their nose on their sleeve, and I said, hey, girl, 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:01.320 bring a mask. You need to wear a mask in 0:01:01.320 --> 0:01:03.279 the airport because it was like this in DC. I 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:05.839 know it's like that in Atlanta. I had just traveled 0:01:05.840 --> 0:01:07.640 a week before and I always keep a mask in 0:01:07.680 --> 0:01:11.920 my bag, and I'm like, yeah, it's time to put 0:01:12.080 --> 0:01:14.160 my mask back on. I don't know what was going on. 0:01:14.920 --> 0:01:18.679 I can't explain it, but falls here and along with 0:01:18.800 --> 0:01:21.800 fall comes the ick. Okay. I can't remember who I 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:24.000 was talking to, but I was saying, are you getting 0:01:24.000 --> 0:01:25.800 your flu shot in your COVID shot? And they were like, 0:01:25.800 --> 0:01:28.760 are we allowed to get a COVID shot? And I 0:01:28.880 --> 0:01:34.960 get it. Because the vaccine landscape is mountainous, it is 0:01:35.160 --> 0:01:38.880 difficult terrain. Oh my gosh. Yes, because of all these 0:01:38.920 --> 0:01:42.800 recent shakeups at the federal level. Because of RFK, junior 0:01:43.760 --> 0:01:46.840 access to vaccines has changed, and it is varying from 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:50.400 state to state. So it's not even like, oh, me 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:54.840 in Maryland talking to you in Atlanta. We probably don't 0:01:54.840 --> 0:01:58.960 have the same rules and regulations in place. Well at 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:01.760 the federal level, here's that's what happened last year twenty 0:02:01.760 --> 0:02:04.920 twenty four to twenty twenty five for COVID boosters. The 0:02:04.960 --> 0:02:08.800 recommendation was that anybody the six months are older should 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:12.160 get a booster shot. Okay, at the end of August, 0:02:12.600 --> 0:02:16.320 and this is on the heels of RFK firing the 0:02:16.520 --> 0:02:19.960 director of the CDC and wiping out that board that 0:02:20.040 --> 0:02:23.040 makes the recommendations for immunization. On the heels of those 0:02:23.040 --> 0:02:26.280 two events, at the end of August, they said, hey, 0:02:26.840 --> 0:02:30.160 we're changing who we're recommending COVID vaccine boosters for so 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:33.280 instead of it being people six months are older regardless 0:02:33.280 --> 0:02:36.560 of health status or risk factors, it was changed in 0:02:36.600 --> 0:02:39.760 the recommendation now is people who are sixty five and 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:43.960 older or those with high risk conditions, and those high 0:02:44.040 --> 0:02:49.760 risk conditions are like asthma, obesity, pregnancy, and like physical inactivity. 0:02:50.280 --> 0:02:54.760 But it's tricky. In response to that, the states are like, nah, okay, 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:57.120 that might be the federal regulation, but we're gonna do 0:02:57.240 --> 0:02:59.960 something different. And so there are some states like outwell, 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:03.480 there is a block of states I think it's Oregon, Washington, California, 0:03:03.480 --> 0:03:07.120 and Hawaii that have been proactive. They built up this 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:10.680 West Coast Health Alliance the West Coast they're gonna ride Okay, 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:13.840 They're sharing data, reviews and issue in joint recommendation, so 0:03:13.880 --> 0:03:16.440 pharmacy and clinics there can keep vaccinating people that are 0:03:16.440 --> 0:03:19.080 younger than sixty five without a federal green light. Then 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:22.600 to other states like Florida going the completely opposite direction. 0:03:23.960 --> 0:03:26.000 I know you saw that man. There was a lot 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:30.080 in my timeline about that man from Florida giving vaccine advice, 0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:32.680 and I said, they eating you up on the internet, brothers. 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:34.880 I mean we all see those things. That's always like, 0:03:34.920 --> 0:03:37.840 it always starts off with man from Florida, and it's 0:03:37.880 --> 0:03:40.600 always gonna be something crazy. I don't know. You know, 0:03:40.680 --> 0:03:43.640 I'm not gonna say it's just all people in Florida, 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:46.520 but it seems to be a trend. But with all 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:48.680 this talk about COVID vaccines, it makes me think about 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:53.200 the flu shot, like, are they still available for everyone? 0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:56.440 Is it gonna be the same. The flu shots are free, 0:03:56.800 --> 0:03:59.600 you know, but I don't now, I'm not really sure. 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:02.520 So the good news is that flu shots, on the 0:04:02.520 --> 0:04:04.839 other hand, are still available for every one age six 0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:07.480 months and up, and the CDC still recommends getting one 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:10.360 every year, and this season the flu shot covers like 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:14.080 three main flu strains. Now there is something exciting, or 0:04:14.120 --> 0:04:16.680 at least exciting to meet about the flu. Being a 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:22.000 nerd and that I don't care. That makes me feel good. 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:27.520 Thank you. The nasal spray flu vaccine flu MISTED is 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:30.520 now proved for self administration if you're eighteen to forty one. Oh, 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:37.400 so you can literally vaccinate yourself. Now I want to know, TT, 0:04:37.560 --> 0:04:40.480 would you try this? Would you try the nasal flu spray? Yes? 0:04:40.839 --> 0:04:43.880 I think I would. Why not if they said that 0:04:43.960 --> 0:04:46.479 there's efficacy there. You know, I'm using all of my 0:04:46.640 --> 0:04:51.919 bio words. Yes, that's right, Like then my friends are 0:04:52.560 --> 0:04:58.080 right only in this moment. But yeah, I think if 0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:00.960 they're if they're saying that it's safe and that it works, absolutely, 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:03.880 I don't see why not. So here we have not 0:05:03.920 --> 0:05:07.520 only our traditional flu vaccine, but expanded access that allows 0:05:07.600 --> 0:05:10.120 us to do the flu vaccine by nasal spray and 0:05:10.160 --> 0:05:12.400 you can get that ordered directly to your door. I 0:05:12.440 --> 0:05:14.360 am not sponsored by flu mists. I have not taken 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:17.320 flu miss. I'm just excited about expanded access. You have 0:05:17.360 --> 0:05:21.839 a fan fan flu mist, yes, And so here we 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:26.080 see expansion here and a narrowing of the label for 0:05:26.160 --> 0:05:29.680 who should get vaccination on the covid side. And it 0:05:29.920 --> 0:05:32.680 also it just feels like this term I learned when 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:36.279 we had doctor Barbara Hoefer and her colleague come on 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:38.960 to our show and talk about science denial, and they 0:05:39.000 --> 0:05:43.320 talked about the cafeteria style like kind of picking parts 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:45.080 of science you want to put on your tray. Yeah, 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:47.440 picking and choosing. It's not that you don't believe vaccines 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:49.880 work because you're saying, hey, have a flu shot, but 0:05:50.320 --> 0:05:53.000 don't have a COVID booster, right, And so the bottom 0:05:53.080 --> 0:05:56.680 line is not to let political drama or the who 0:05:56.680 --> 0:05:58.520 knows what kind of patience you would need at the pharmacy, 0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:02.920 you know for access there. Right, So what should people do? 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:06.160 They should not let it stop them from protecting themselves 0:06:06.320 --> 0:06:08.360 or their loved ones. Because over the holidays, I plan 0:06:08.440 --> 0:06:10.560 on seeing all the older people in my family, and 0:06:10.640 --> 0:06:13.200 I don't want to be the person that gets them sick. 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:18.160 And so I think reaching out to your primary care physician, 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:21.560 figuring out what's happening in your state, that's the best way. 0:06:21.640 --> 0:06:24.480 I have seen people sharing great information on threads of 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:27.159 all places, they're like Walgreens on this street has the 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:33.640 COVID booster, like wow, word of wow, meet people where 0:06:33.640 --> 0:06:36.840 they are. If they don't threads, go there. Isn't it 0:06:36.920 --> 0:06:41.599 sad though, that our governance has put us in this spot, 0:06:41.760 --> 0:06:45.039 like governance is at an all time low, right, And 0:06:45.080 --> 0:06:47.200 it's hard because you want to turn away, but it 0:06:47.240 --> 0:06:50.080 also feels like we need to be involved, you know 0:06:50.080 --> 0:06:53.159 what I mean? You saying that is like the you 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:55.400 know how sometimes you hear a thing that you hear 0:06:55.440 --> 0:06:57.640 it somewhere else in a different topic, like we need 0:06:57.680 --> 0:07:00.960 to be involved? Is this theme hearing everywhere. I was 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:04.640 listening to this book by Karen Howe called Empire of Ai, 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:07.440 and so she's a journalist who's been covering AI over 0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:09.640 the past few years. And then this book she talks 0:07:09.640 --> 0:07:11.800 about open AI and she's like, open AI is just 0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:14.040 what's on the plate, that's just the flavor of the moment. 0:07:14.320 --> 0:07:16.000 We need to be looking at how we're whipping this 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:18.600 stuff up in the kitchen. And so she likens it 0:07:18.640 --> 0:07:20.960 to Facebook. Facebook just used to be a social media 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:23.840 platform but without regulation and governance. Look at it now, 0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:27.760 Look at Mark Zuckerberg. Okay, And so she talks about 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:32.600 she talks about AI and this ecosystem of web technologies 0:07:32.640 --> 0:07:35.679 and she talks about it beyond like the large language 0:07:35.680 --> 0:07:38.920 modelers like chat, GPT, and she was saying, we need 0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:40.960 to be thinking about what it looks like to be 0:07:41.040 --> 0:07:43.040 involved in governing what's happening. Because I know a lot 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:44.720 of people are saying opt out, don't be involved, and 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:46.440 I'm like, no, we need to be even more involved 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:48.720 in guiding. That's the only way you can protect is 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:51.200 if you are involved in God exactly because when you 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:53.280 think about it, when you think of like deep fakes, 0:07:53.680 --> 0:07:56.800 all these scams I'm getting We were talking about this recently. 0:07:56.960 --> 0:08:02.119 I'm getting ten scam text messages a day, I'm getting 0:08:02.240 --> 0:08:06.480 scam calls. And when an AI starts to be a 0:08:06.480 --> 0:08:10.040 part of the scam, people are going to really be vulnerable. 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:13.520 Like and I really think about our aging population who 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:15.920 are really vulnerable to this, Like they can receive a 0:08:15.960 --> 0:08:20.360 phone call from someone that sounds exactly like their partner 0:08:20.520 --> 0:08:23.800 or exactly like their grandchild and say, hey, I need 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:26.360 your help, can you send me this or that? Then 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:28.920 what if we've all opted out, then we don't know 0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:31.080 how to fight this, and we don't know what to 0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:35.920 ask regulators and our governments for in order to protect us. 0:08:36.080 --> 0:08:38.800 So we really have to know what's going on in 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:41.560 the AI space so that we can arm ourselves with knowledge. 0:08:41.640 --> 0:08:45.560 And that knowledge is power and it helps us to 0:08:46.559 --> 0:08:50.320 guard ourselves against these the people that are trying to 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:52.640 pray on us to you know, scam us out of 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:54.920 our money, scam us out of our identities, and all 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:57.679 these things like that. So I think it's really important. 0:08:58.080 --> 0:09:01.400 And I mean, even on the heels of that, I've 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:03.920 been watching a lot of documentaries. They got some good 0:09:03.920 --> 0:09:07.440 documentaries out there right now, and speaking of like deep 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:09.840 fakes and pretending to be other people. Have you seen 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:14.199 that Netflix show Unknown Number Listen, Brittany just told me 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:16.520 to watch this a couple of days ago. I started 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:20.079 that documentary at like one am the other and we'll 0:09:20.080 --> 0:09:22.959 talk about my sleep layers. But I still need your 0:09:23.040 --> 0:09:28.760 ordering data and I'm afraid to upload it. I started 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:33.400 that documentary and it was wild tt you know, I 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:37.600 had heard a similar story before, and so when it 0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:39.880 came to the end and there was that great reveal, 0:09:40.640 --> 0:09:44.840 I was like, I knew it, you know, like I 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:48.480 don't want to spoil, but if you haven't seen it, 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:51.040 you should see it. Stop right now and go see 0:09:51.040 --> 0:09:55.959 it and you can finish it episode. Absolutely, go see it. 0:09:56.240 --> 0:10:00.000 I think it's been enough time. We can talk about it. Oh, 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:03.640 we can talk Okay. Then, So there was a young 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:06.480 teenage girl, probably like thirteen years old, who was going 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:09.120 to a school in a very small town in Michigan. 0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:12.240 She was dating this boy. Her name was Lauren. She's 0:10:12.320 --> 0:10:15.439 dating this boy named Owen. Lauren and Owen, you know, 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:17.360 I kind of grew up together. This is a very 0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:20.520 very small town. They said they have one stoplight two bars. 0:10:20.559 --> 0:10:23.760 There's only like one major school where it goes from 0:10:24.200 --> 0:10:26.960 kindergarten all the way up to twelfth grade. So everybody 0:10:26.960 --> 0:10:32.200 knows everybody. Everybody knows everybody, and so they begin to date. 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:35.640 And then after dating for a little bit, they start 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:38.040 getting text messages from a number that they don't know. 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:40.040 None of them have that number in their phones. They 0:10:40.080 --> 0:10:42.000 don't know who it is, and it's saying these really 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:47.800 vile things about Lauren, very very vile, vulgar things about Lauren, 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:52.560 and they're all maliciously targeted at Lauren, and some very 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:56.720 sexually inappropriate things about Owen and saying like, oh, he 0:10:56.720 --> 0:10:59.360 doesn't want you and he wants to be with me. 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:04.120 It was just so awful, saying really awful things about 0:11:04.440 --> 0:11:09.360 Lauren's body and things like that. So as the story's progressing, 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:12.040 we're going it's been over like a year and a 0:11:12.080 --> 0:11:14.960 half at this point, and they have suspected other people 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:17.120 at the school, but they haven't been able to figure 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:19.000 out who it was. The case gets turned over to 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:21.320 the FBI. The FBI is able to do like their 0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:27.400 crypto forensics, and they trace IP addresses and it turns 0:11:27.440 --> 0:11:30.960 out it was Lauren's mom the whole time, you like 0:11:30.960 --> 0:11:33.000 your jaw hits the floor because then you think about 0:11:33.000 --> 0:11:35.560 all the messages that were sent. She was telling her 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:40.079 daughter to die by suicide. She was saying the most 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:43.240 awful things about her. But then like she's saying, I 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:45.040 love my daughter so much, I love her, I love her, 0:11:45.080 --> 0:11:47.160 I love her, And it's just like how do you 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:49.880 reconcile these things? One theory that they had in the 0:11:49.880 --> 0:11:52.520 show is that she has like some form of Munchausen's, 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:58.200 which is a medical disorder where someone will go to 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:01.040 great lengths to either make them all seems sick and 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:04.040 in some cases they will do that with their kids 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:08.240 in order to gain attention and sympathy and things like that. 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:10.800 So some people are accusing her of having that disorder. 0:12:11.040 --> 0:12:14.960 But it was just like a digital version exactly exactly. 0:12:15.080 --> 0:12:20.200 And so I mean, if that's happening, imagine laying AI 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:22.440 on top of that. Who knows if they would ever 0:12:22.559 --> 0:12:24.840 found out and like what the end of this story 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:28.040 would have been. That is so wild. It also reminds 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:31.320 me of that movie Run that had Sarah Paulson in it. 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:34.240 Not to give it away, but that was a good movie. 0:12:34.400 --> 0:12:36.920 I'm gonna have to watch that, and Sad, I'm definitely 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:53.679 gonna have to watch that. You should watch it. As 0:12:53.720 --> 0:12:57.760 we move more and more digital, I think about there 0:12:57.760 --> 0:13:00.600 are places where you can create community. Everything is just 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:02.840 a tool, it's how you use it. In this case, 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:07.160 Lauren's mom was using digital tools to totally isolate her 0:13:07.280 --> 0:13:11.560 daughter to cause mayhem, madness. I don't even know what 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:13.559 else to call it, because I was like, how can 0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:15.120 she even show her face? She should be a shame. 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:17.600 Bring back shame, I'm sorry, bring it backly the fact 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:19.360 that she agreed to be a part of the documentary, 0:13:19.360 --> 0:13:22.480 I was like, clearly, you don't feel like you did something. 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:26.240 What did she say? She said, we've all broken the law. Yeah. 0:13:26.280 --> 0:13:28.280 I was like, baby, this is We're not talking about 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:32.679 legal or illegal. We're talking about the destruction, the destructive behavior, 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:35.400 the way you're tearing down your daughter. And that little 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:38.840 girl is young, but when she hits twenty twenty two, 0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:42.360 twenty three, like that stuff is going to surface later 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:45.320 in life, and baby, I hate it for But also 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:48.760 we see people using digital tools to create these great communities, 0:13:49.120 --> 0:13:55.240 to realize previously unrealized or unactualized potential. One of the 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:57.720 things I've been seeing and I just asked you about 0:13:57.720 --> 0:14:01.360 this earlier, The Great Life. Yeah, I've been seeing that shit. 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:04.720 I first saw it on TikTok where people were saying, oh, 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:08.640 we're locking in starting on August first, and I was like, 0:14:09.440 --> 0:14:12.080 why August first? You know what I mean? I saw 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:14.559 it on TikTok first, folks were saying, oh, we're gonna 0:14:14.600 --> 0:14:18.040 start locking in August first. I was like, what's happening 0:14:18.120 --> 0:14:20.520 August first? I don't understand, Like what fiscal year are 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:24.200 y'all on. I don't I don't understand why August first. 0:14:24.200 --> 0:14:25.640 But then I was like, okay, let me not get 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:27.680 too hung up on that. And then I was like, okay, 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:30.920 what is this great lock in? And so the great 0:14:31.040 --> 0:14:33.560 what a great lock in is just people saying, Okay, 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:35.920 starting now, I'm locking in to make sure I achieve 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:38.680 my twenty twenty five goals before twenty twenty six. So 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:42.440 August to December is for time for me to get 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:45.520 in shape, like really stay with my workout regimen, or 0:14:46.120 --> 0:14:48.520 really lock into this business plan that I had, or 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:52.640 gain one hundred thousand followers on whatever social media platform 0:14:53.080 --> 0:14:56.280 to start daily vlogging like I want to do like 0:14:56.440 --> 0:14:59.760 anything that you have been putting off. They're saying, okay, 0:14:59.800 --> 0:15:02.680 now of time to lock in and do it. Why 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:06.400 are we always locking in and never locking out, Like, 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:11.600 let's lay down, right, let's relax, and if we're really 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:14.720 being real, the great lock in to me just feels 0:15:14.760 --> 0:15:18.800 like another remix of hustle culture. Remember seventy five hards. 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:20.560 They're still doing that. Remember I told you those people 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:22.160 try to put me in that seventy five hard group. 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:24.800 I said, baby, take me out, and they cannot trick me. 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:31.720 It's wow, It's just like these things, you know. I 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:33.720 don't know if I want to say survivor bias, but 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:36.760 it's some mechanism of that right where there are these 0:15:36.800 --> 0:15:39.720 trends where if you work hard, you promises this like transformation, 0:15:40.360 --> 0:15:42.160 or if you just grind enough for a set number 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:44.880 of days. There are people that grind for many, many 0:15:44.960 --> 0:15:48.320 days okay, and nothing happens. And so now you adding 0:15:48.360 --> 0:15:52.720 TikTok hype and hashtags and filters on top of that, 0:15:53.240 --> 0:15:57.040 and it's like every few months there's a new font 0:15:57.680 --> 0:16:01.600 exactly for like the same old productivity exactly. And what 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:04.960 that all leads to is burnout and We have done 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:08.520 an episode on burnout with Ann Helen Peterson, and it 0:16:08.600 --> 0:16:11.600 is something that you know from our generation Millennials or 0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:15.960 generation why whatever you want to call us, that we 0:16:16.160 --> 0:16:20.000 are heavy engagers with like I'll sleep when I'm dead 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:23.320 and grind so hard blah blah blah blah blah blah, 0:16:23.360 --> 0:16:28.400 and it doesn't lead to anything productive, and like it 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:31.360 doesn't work out well for us because we aren't even 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:36.240 set up economically in a way where that can work 0:16:36.280 --> 0:16:39.960 out for us well. Like financially speaking, we are not 0:16:40.080 --> 0:16:44.280 making as much as our parents, and we have far 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:47.680 less money saved, we have way more debt, there's way 0:16:47.760 --> 0:16:51.400 less stability. It's just not the same. And so we 0:16:51.680 --> 0:16:54.800 really we talk about locking in and everything like that, 0:16:54.840 --> 0:16:56.800 and I just worry about folks because I'm just like, 0:16:57.240 --> 0:16:59.440 you really gonna lock in and burn out and then 0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:03.000 you're good to no one, especially yourself, Because if we're 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:07.760 talking about locking in and it comes to the detriment 0:17:07.840 --> 0:17:10.399 of your rest, that's not the type of locking and 0:17:10.440 --> 0:17:14.119 you should do because sleep is so essential for physical recovery, 0:17:14.240 --> 0:17:19.960 overall health, hormone regulation, immune system support, stress reduction, improved 0:17:20.000 --> 0:17:22.840 mood enhance, cognitive functions so that you can do all 0:17:22.880 --> 0:17:25.720 that stuff that you claiming you want to do, locking 0:17:25.800 --> 0:17:28.440 in barely making any progress because your cognitive function isn't 0:17:28.520 --> 0:17:33.240 exactly that's not even increase creativity. So, really, all you 0:17:33.320 --> 0:17:36.680 folks within the sound of my voice thinking about locking in, 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:38.920 and you've already been locked in for what a month 0:17:39.000 --> 0:17:43.720 or something, Now take time to rest because it will 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:46.680 help you not just lock in for August through December. 0:17:46.960 --> 0:17:50.919 It'll help you with creating an environment and ecosystem for 0:17:51.040 --> 0:17:56.359 you to be overall locked in, locked into your mental health, 0:17:56.680 --> 0:18:02.040 locked into your emotional health, locked into having the life 0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:04.800 that you deserve, which is a life that has balance 0:18:05.359 --> 0:18:09.359 with productivity and rest. Yeah, I think that's a lesson 0:18:09.440 --> 0:18:12.879 I have really had to learn and relearn. Maybe that 0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:15.560 means I've been feeling it's hard. It feels important to 0:18:15.640 --> 0:18:19.879 reset the locking out for me, like I have had 0:18:19.960 --> 0:18:21.879 to be like, Okay, I'm owning my own calendar. I 0:18:21.880 --> 0:18:25.560 don't need it to be the first of August or 0:18:26.200 --> 0:18:29.680 the twenty first night of September whatever earth Wind and 0:18:29.720 --> 0:18:36.560 Fire said, Like I start when it's time for me. 0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:39.520 I am claiming the timeline that actually fits my bandwidth. 0:18:39.560 --> 0:18:41.480 You know, like, do I have the energy for this 0:18:41.600 --> 0:18:43.480 right now? I think the other thing I've had to 0:18:43.480 --> 0:18:46.880 do is decide what success looks like for me up front. 0:18:46.960 --> 0:18:48.800 You know. I think for a long time I really 0:18:48.840 --> 0:18:51.200 wanted things to be perfect, and I was like, hey, 0:18:52.320 --> 0:18:54.160 it doesn't have to be perfect. Sometimes it just needs 0:18:54.200 --> 0:19:10.520 to be done. You know, just last night, you sent 0:19:10.560 --> 0:19:13.000 me a yup screenshot of something I see in you 0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:16.080 in twenty sixteen. Right, I'm gonna pull it up. Pull 0:19:16.080 --> 0:19:18.159 it up. Yeah'm gonna pull it up. She sent me 0:19:18.200 --> 0:19:22.080 something on Snapchat. Now that I know people have gone 0:19:22.160 --> 0:19:26.040 chat Snapchat, so enough shay, okay, but I've not been 0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:29.880 on Snapchat since probably twenty sixteen, and so she sent 0:19:29.920 --> 0:19:32.960 this to me and says, we all have a blinking line. 0:19:33.080 --> 0:19:35.679 Your blinking line is whatever sits in front of you 0:19:35.720 --> 0:19:38.720 waiting to be brought into existence. It's the book or 0:19:38.880 --> 0:19:41.359 day or job or business or family or mission or 0:19:41.400 --> 0:19:44.840 class or plan or cause or meeting or task or 0:19:44.920 --> 0:19:48.600 project or challenge or phone call or life that is 0:19:48.680 --> 0:19:51.439 waiting for you to bring it into being. That was 0:19:51.480 --> 0:19:53.680 so timely when you shared it with me again, because 0:19:53.680 --> 0:19:55.600 I was like, hey, you get to choose, you get 0:19:55.640 --> 0:19:58.199 to choose what you're putting your energy towards, and it 0:19:58.200 --> 0:19:59.960 doesn't have to be all those things in that list 0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:02.880 all at the same time, right, And so I've been 0:20:03.119 --> 0:20:06.040 doing a better job of honoring time for recovery. You know, 0:20:06.080 --> 0:20:09.000 before I would pack my schedule, there was no time 0:20:09.040 --> 0:20:12.240 that I was having whiplash, baby, and I'm like, Okay, 0:20:12.960 --> 0:20:16.200 slow down, take a break. These things can wait. And 0:20:16.720 --> 0:20:19.960 I think I've just found that to be incredibly rewarding. 0:20:20.320 --> 0:20:22.119 One of the things I will say, I mentioned it 0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:27.160 a little earlier, getting that sleep is key. Absolutely. Now 0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:30.199 I admire you in that way because you're somebody to 0:20:30.240 --> 0:20:32.320 go to sleep fast. I can go to sleep right now. 0:20:33.040 --> 0:20:35.680 Literally in the middle of this sentence, I could close 0:20:35.720 --> 0:20:40.600 my eyes and be almost right at sleep store. That's 0:20:40.600 --> 0:20:44.040 how quickly it happens. Now, Do I always lay down 0:20:44.080 --> 0:20:49.840 and do that? No, because I also struggle too sometimes. Yeah, 0:20:50.080 --> 0:20:53.119 but we both have to prioritize sleep. There's a recent 0:20:53.119 --> 0:20:55.800 study that just came out of Neurology. It was published Neurology, 0:20:55.800 --> 0:20:58.680 which is the journal for the American Academy for Neurology, 0:20:58.720 --> 0:21:02.080 and it says people with chronic insomnia had a forty 0:21:02.119 --> 0:21:07.200 percent higher risk of developing mild cognitive impairment or dementia. 0:21:07.720 --> 0:21:10.040 So I was, like, chronic insomnia do I have that? 0:21:10.160 --> 0:21:12.960 Chronic insomnia is defined as having trouble sleeping at least 0:21:13.000 --> 0:21:16.520 three days a week for three months or more. Wow, 0:21:16.800 --> 0:21:19.600 ur ring was it was saying girl, you close. You 0:21:19.760 --> 0:21:23.119 used to say girl, you're close. And so in this study, 0:21:23.160 --> 0:21:25.879 they tracked people that were around seventy years old. They 0:21:25.920 --> 0:21:28.440 looked at like twenty eight hundred almost twenty eight hundred people, 0:21:28.440 --> 0:21:30.359 and they monitored them for an average of five and 0:21:30.359 --> 0:21:34.720 a half years. Of the people who had chronic insomnia, 0:21:35.080 --> 0:21:37.920 fourteen percent of them went on to have cognitive issues 0:21:38.000 --> 0:21:40.119 compared to ten percent of the people who didn't have 0:21:40.200 --> 0:21:44.000 chronic insomnia. So that's the forty percent difference they're talking about. Now, 0:21:44.920 --> 0:21:46.919 that's one thing, But the other thing is there was 0:21:47.040 --> 0:21:49.800 just a study from another study that came out from 0:21:49.840 --> 0:21:52.200 the scientists that you see Berkeley, some scientists that you 0:21:52.240 --> 0:21:55.160 see Berkeley, and they were looking at mice and they 0:21:55.200 --> 0:21:58.159 dissected the brains and said that we finally figured out 0:21:58.200 --> 0:22:01.800 the neural circuits or the pathways that happen when you're 0:22:01.840 --> 0:22:05.480 asleep that allow you to release growth hormone. That's you 0:22:05.520 --> 0:22:07.000 know when they say kids need a lot of rest 0:22:07.000 --> 0:22:09.199 and grow, Yes, it's true, but you also need it 0:22:09.200 --> 0:22:13.160 for adult metabolism. So the sleep is important for the kids, 0:22:13.160 --> 0:22:17.080 but parents and big kids like me, it's important for 0:22:17.119 --> 0:22:21.639 you too. I don't want to grow up. I'm a 0:22:21.680 --> 0:22:28.479 toy us kid. Okay. We have to find productive ways 0:22:28.520 --> 0:22:32.280 to get that recovery and wellness because you know, it 0:22:32.320 --> 0:22:35.959 wasn't right. But when things got tough and I felt stressed, 0:22:36.000 --> 0:22:39.560 I used to turn to oysters. And hey man, they've 0:22:39.600 --> 0:22:41.760 taken that away, taken it away from us. Now they 0:22:41.920 --> 0:22:46.800 are so they are finding bacteria in the oysters, like 0:22:47.760 --> 0:22:51.280 deadly bacteria. It's always been bacteria there. But right, I 0:22:51.320 --> 0:22:53.240