WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: The Deadline Looms 0:00:03.880 --> 0:00:06.400 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:06.440 --> 0:00:18.280 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. He's Talking Cowboys, screaming 0:00:18.320 --> 0:00:22.240 live from the Dallas Cowboys Worldwhours at the Star in Frisco, 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:33.559 et Sabots and now your hosts Isaiah Stanback, heck My Harrison, 0:00:33.920 --> 0:00:39.320 Rob Phillips and Kyle Yeoman's It's a beautiful Tuesday Morning 0:00:39.400 --> 0:00:43.479 from Frisco and the s WBC Mortgage Studios of Courts 0:00:43.920 --> 0:00:48.680 nine thirty. Every Tuesday, it's time for Talking Cowboys. Glad 0:00:48.720 --> 0:00:51.320 you're with us on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the 0:00:51.400 --> 0:00:54.240 various streaming platforms. Of course, it's a fans on the 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:57.680 fifty Tuesdays and in your fan questions, whether it be 0:00:57.720 --> 0:01:00.840 on the Twitter, on the periscope, find a way to 0:01:00.880 --> 0:01:03.800 get your fan questions in right now and we're gonna 0:01:03.800 --> 0:01:07.200 answer them over the course of the next forty five minutes. 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:09.959 Is asked. Stand back as always in the house here 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:13.320 on Tuesdays, we've got heck Ma Harrison and Rob Phillips 0:01:13.400 --> 0:01:16.279 at home, and guys were a couple of days removed 0:01:16.319 --> 0:01:19.040 from that twenty three to nine loss to the Philadelphia Eagles, 0:01:19.040 --> 0:01:20.760 but there's a lot of other things on the line 0:01:20.840 --> 0:01:25.640 today as trade deadline day in the NFL is upon us. 0:01:25.680 --> 0:01:28.960 We're gonna talk about maybe the Cowboys potentially making a 0:01:29.040 --> 0:01:32.199 move one way or the other and maybe stay and put. 0:01:32.240 --> 0:01:34.280 We heard what Jerry Jones had to say this morning, 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:36.200 and we're gonna break that down here in a minute 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:37.880 as well. But I wanted to hear I wanted to 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:41.000 break something else down on what we heard on the 0:01:41.000 --> 0:01:44.800 fan this morning, and the it doesn't have to do 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:49.000 with Cowboys front office personnel. It has to do with 0:01:49.080 --> 0:01:51.840 one of our very own and that's mister Rob Phillips. 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:56.360 And Rob, I heard the end of that interview you 0:01:56.400 --> 0:01:58.920 had with Sean and RJ just a couple moments ago. 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:02.120 It was played for the entirety of the group here, Uh, 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:08.360 explain the regulator what was going on there? Come on, 0:02:08.480 --> 0:02:11.880 I don't know what happened when right before I came on, 0:02:11.960 --> 0:02:14.520 I couldn't tell which member of their show was doing 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:17.400 some kind of pop karaoke and I just I just 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:19.600 said in passing and that was a big mistake. I said, 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:21.760 we all need some karaoke in our lives right now 0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:24.440 for a lot of reasons. And so then it went 0:02:24.480 --> 0:02:27.320 down the road of what's what's your go to? I'm old, 0:02:27.360 --> 0:02:30.200 I haven't done karaoke in years, but I'm a nineties guy, 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:32.840 So I said, Warren regulate, that's my favorite, one of 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:36.280 my favorite songs of all time. So they had me 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:39.440 do the intro on the way out, and you did you. 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:43.040 You did it fantastic. I thought it was awesome. I mean, 0:02:43.120 --> 0:02:46.880 Isaiah was impressed wide I had impressed that. I didn't 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:48.480 know that you had that that that that gangsta and 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:51.679 you hrop. However, that was unfamiliar. You like that. I 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:54.040 didn't like, Hey good, I thought I made a total 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:56.799 ass of myself. But apparently not. No, no, he said 0:02:56.840 --> 0:02:59.040 you brought it. That was what what the het was. 0:02:59.120 --> 0:03:04.240 Words were, man, I just I got I don't even 0:03:04.360 --> 0:03:06.320 I don't even know rob Just. When you think you 0:03:06.400 --> 0:03:09.960 know a guy who pulls out Warrengy and Regulators and 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:12.800 Nate Dog, I mean you even did the whole intro. 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:14.560 He did that. He did that. I think we have 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:17.240 I think we think we call him. I think we 0:03:17.280 --> 0:03:19.799 have to call him rob P like Warngy, but rob P. 0:03:20.240 --> 0:03:21.600 I think that's what we have referred to my mess 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:25.240 from now on. Can you go with that. Yeah, that 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:28.799 was awesome. That was awesome. Rob. Yeah, I'm glad. I'm 0:03:28.840 --> 0:03:30.960 glad they stopped me there because I could have gone 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:36.240 like one or two more lines of Oh More. You know, 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:38.520 you know they're gonna bring that back too. They're gonna 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:41.040 bring it back next week. You're gonna pop on on Tuesday, 0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:43.680 and they're probably gonna intro the segment with you with 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:48.040 with a little rob p And that song makes you 0:03:48.080 --> 0:03:50.320 feel better, you know, And we don't need to We 0:03:50.360 --> 0:03:52.839 all need to feel better these days. We don't, don't. 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:57.320 You're not wrong about that stressful day for everyone involved 0:03:57.360 --> 0:03:59.800 in I guess the States. For those of you listening 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:01.880 in nationally, you don't have to listen to this. But 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:05.360 everybody go vote. Of course, Election day today, Go get 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:08.880 it done, do your civic duty. And everybody love each other. 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:10.640 I tweeted that out at this morning. No matter what 0:04:10.720 --> 0:04:12.760 ends up happening tonight, love all of you guys. This 0:04:12.840 --> 0:04:15.240 is gonna be a ton of fun talking football. But 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:18.200 of course there's the other things out there today. But 0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:20.000 that's all we're gonna say on that because now it's 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:22.360 a nerve wracking day for the NFL. It's a nerve 0:04:22.400 --> 0:04:25.000 wracking day because of the trade deadline and some of 0:04:25.040 --> 0:04:28.120 these moves that are going to happen for every franchise 0:04:28.240 --> 0:04:30.719 over the next couple of hours and robbed this morning. 0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:34.159 Jerry Jones on the Fan in his weekly interview with 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:37.480 Sean and RJ before you went on, said pretty much 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:40.760 the Cowboys looking to stay put. Now, you can take 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:43.039 that with a grain assault, seeing that you don't want 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:45.000 to give up what you're trying to do. But what 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:48.320 did you think about Jerry's answer and really the mindset 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:53.119 of the Cowboys here in the trade deadline day? Yeah, 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:56.919 I mean I think Jerry said improbability to try to 0:04:56.920 --> 0:04:58.880 get something done, at least something done. That's a big 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:03.279 splash before three o'clock Central. So and I thought Stephen 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:07.279 illustrated it well too on the Fan with K and 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:09.360 C yesterday when he said, you know, he kind of 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:11.200 went in a little bit more depth and talked about 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:13.640 how deck Jerry did two in terms of the cap 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:18.200 but also, um, you know, from a roster standpoint. You know, 0:05:18.240 --> 0:05:20.080 I think Steven talked about that they have needs, I 0:05:20.080 --> 0:05:24.040 mean defensively defensive tackle and they traded for how do 0:05:24.080 --> 0:05:30.839 you pronounce eli uh and and and Coo, I think 0:05:31.040 --> 0:05:35.480 is so yeah, so they've made you were right, they 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:38.599 made They made a minor rock to move there before 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:40.960 the deadline. But I think they're kind of looking at 0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:43.039 it like play play the young guys. Let's see what 0:05:43.279 --> 0:05:45.320 some of the young guys we already like on this roster. 0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:49.719 They've made moves last week to move on from veterans 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:51.600 to open up that playing time, so they want to 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:53.800 focus on that. And the other thing is too I 0:05:53.880 --> 0:05:56.440 just the vibe I guy from Steven and we kind 0:05:56.480 --> 0:05:59.440 of talked about this one move defensively. I don't know, 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:03.320 is everything at this point, and so they're taking more 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:04.880 of a long term view, not that they're not trying 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:06.760 to win games, but I think they're taking a long 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:08.960 term view of the cap and just kind of where 0:06:08.960 --> 0:06:11.560 they are with the roster right now and trying to 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:13.640 be competitive with the young guys that they have. I 0:06:13.680 --> 0:06:17.080 think that just seems to be the approach right now. Pat, 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:21.280 what do you think about that mindset? I think that's 0:06:21.279 --> 0:06:24.440 a smart mindset. With the fluctuation of the cap for 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:26.360 next year, we're just kind of in a no man's 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:29.160 land of knowing what that's going to be. But you know, 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:31.480 you just have to think how the mighty have fallen. 0:06:31.520 --> 0:06:34.120 And when we at the beginning of the season, we 0:06:34.120 --> 0:06:37.120 were talking about how talented this roster is, and now 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:39.560 we're at the point where we're talking about trading away 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:42.640 guys to get picks or if there's anyone that could 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:46.000 come in from outside of the organization to help us. Now, 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:49.080 I just feel like what Jerry Jones said was was 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:52.039 absolutely correct in the mind state of staying paton on 0:06:52.120 --> 0:06:54.480 what we have and trying to develop the young guys 0:06:54.680 --> 0:06:56.640 that we have, because we have a bunch of those, 0:06:56.680 --> 0:06:58.920 and so I don't object with it. I don't think 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:01.800 that there's any ask trades that you can make that 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:05.839 would come in and actually make your team better, So 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:08.479 and I think that would be the thing that you 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:11.440 would do, or offloading a guy to get more picks. 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:13.880 And so it's staying the course of where we are 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:16.680 right now, and right now it's starting to look like 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:19.560 we would probably be in a top ten pick. I'm 0:07:19.560 --> 0:07:22.600 hoping not, but that's where the course is taking us. 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:25.200 But if that is. If that is the case, that's 0:07:25.240 --> 0:07:27.960 then that's a smart place to be. And also, I 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:30.000 heard you ask the question about Aldon Smith and not 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:32.200 wanting to trade him a way that that may be 0:07:33.000 --> 0:07:35.840 just us wanting to offer a guy that's given us 0:07:35.880 --> 0:07:38.560 all that he can an extension, and we'll get to 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:40.120 that coming up here in just a minute, but I 0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:42.160 wanted to get your scions on that as well. Yeah, 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:44.280 I don't see any trades necessarily happening. You guys know 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:46.280 my thoughts and my sentiments on free agents that are 0:07:46.280 --> 0:07:48.360 out there that can help us immediately, but I don't 0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:50.800 see I don't I don't foresee any any trades taking place. 0:07:50.840 --> 0:07:52.760 And you know, they're obviously smart to think about their 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:55.880 cap space going forward, but ultimately, you know, you're you 0:07:55.920 --> 0:07:57.720 still you still have a great opportunity this year, and 0:07:57.760 --> 0:07:59.480 I think that you need to focus on trying to 0:07:59.520 --> 0:08:01.800 make sure that you have the best, you know, the 0:08:01.840 --> 0:08:04.280 best opportunity in this year to grasp all your all 0:08:04.320 --> 0:08:06.520 your wants and dreams, and that's that's still a reality. 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:08.880 So do what you can to control the now. Obviously 0:08:09.000 --> 0:08:10.960 plan for the future. So you're still buying at the 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:13.040 trade deadline based off of what you just said, but 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:15.840 not trading. I think there's free agents out there. I 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:17.640 think there's free agents out there that we can grab. 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:19.560 I think there's some you know, I think there I 0:08:19.560 --> 0:08:21.360 think we probably could trade a couple of guys a 0:08:21.480 --> 0:08:23.680 way to grab acquire some pictures for the future. I 0:08:23.680 --> 0:08:25.760 don't think there's any players out there that would necessarily 0:08:25.800 --> 0:08:27.840 you can go grab. I don't think you're gonna get 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:30.400 that much value for the guys that we currently have, 0:08:30.440 --> 0:08:32.559 But I think you can grab some some low end picks. 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:34.120 But you go out there and grab a couple of 0:08:34.120 --> 0:08:35.600 free agents that can come come in and help you 0:08:35.679 --> 0:08:39.079 right now, No, I agree, And I think that's kind 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:41.240 of the biggest thing right now is trying to find 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:44.880 value in the guys that you're willing to trade right now. 0:08:45.040 --> 0:08:48.040 Who are you going to dangle out there that is 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:49.959 going to get the value that you want back for him? 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:52.160 Even right now Michael Gallup, I know he's been thrown 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:54.600 around that I wouldn't be on the train of trading 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:58.280 Michael Gallup. But even with him right now, that's a 0:08:58.360 --> 0:09:00.480 guy who, at least over the last couple games, his 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:03.000 value hasn't been there at least the same that it 0:09:03.080 --> 0:09:05.320 has been in the past with Dak Prescott. So I 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:07.360 don't know what teams are gonna be willing to do there. 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:09.840 But heck, but you brought up Alden Smith, and I 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:11.600 do want to get into him a little bit. Jerry 0:09:11.960 --> 0:09:15.960 confirming the report that Alden Smith was not a part 0:09:15.960 --> 0:09:18.600 of trade talks with Seattle or I guess they were 0:09:18.640 --> 0:09:21.920 a part, but they rejected the trade talks with Seattle 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:24.600 for Alden Smith. And yes, this is a guy who's 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:26.720 thirty one years old, who got off to a really 0:09:26.720 --> 0:09:29.640 hot start, who found a rhythm early, but has since 0:09:29.720 --> 0:09:31.440 kind of slowed down, at least in terms of the 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:33.839 sack numbers. He's still putting up a little bit of 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:38.160 production in good film. However, this kind of shows a 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:41.040 little foreshadowing the fact that this means they're probably gonna 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:45.440 try and extend this guy, right heckma, heck yeah you are, 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:49.079 and he's giving you everything that you could have wanted. 0:09:49.240 --> 0:09:51.920 I think going into the season, you really there was 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:54.240 a big question mark around Aldon Smith being out of 0:09:54.240 --> 0:09:56.720 the league for four and a half years and not 0:09:56.960 --> 0:09:59.960 knowing what that production was would look like. My god, 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:03.240 did he trend up really quickly? And to give that 0:10:03.360 --> 0:10:06.720 away on a guy that could be he could probably 0:10:06.760 --> 0:10:10.200 give you some really some more good years. I don't 0:10:10.200 --> 0:10:13.280 think that's something that the Cowboys interested in doing, especially 0:10:13.480 --> 0:10:16.000 with where you get what you got him for, right. 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:19.840 And so with Randy Gregory coming on, and obviously I'm 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:22.920 hoping that Alvin Smith can mentor that guy because man, 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:26.760 Randy Gregory also has an incredible motor. And you see 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:29.520 why this franchise has put so much belief in him 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:33.920 just by his first game, then actual action and seeing 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:36.120 the kind of pressure that he's getting on the quarterback. 0:10:36.120 --> 0:10:39.640 But no, Alvin Smith is off of the list. Don't 0:10:39.640 --> 0:10:45.840 even bring his name up again, Rob, Yeah, I mean, 0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:49.640 I don't think you ever trade that's pass rush is 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:52.640 a position where if you've got some depth and some 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:57.040 guys you like, hold onto him because they're hard to find. 0:10:57.200 --> 0:11:00.360 It's a it's a marquee position. And I think you 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:03.240 know you mentioned Gallop earlier to Kyle and how obviously 0:11:03.320 --> 0:11:06.000 they don't want to trade Gallop. That what we're talking 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:08.439 about leading up to today's deadline is like it's a 0:11:08.520 --> 0:11:11.480 it's a micro view. They're they're looking macro long term. 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:16.280 That especially on offense, they have sighted the injuries, all 0:11:16.280 --> 0:11:18.240 the injuries they've had, and I know people don't want 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:21.040 to hear that at some point. It's not an excuse, 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:24.080 it's facts, and I think it has impacted them, especially offensively. 0:11:24.600 --> 0:11:26.640 They're they're I just I said this on Sean RJ. 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:28.760 I think that the vibe we're getting is that they 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:31.200 plan to run this thing back next year, especially on offense. 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:34.800 You know, get healthy, bring Dak back, hopefully to resign 0:11:34.880 --> 0:11:37.640 him long term, and shore up your offensive line with 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:40.160 your vets and you have all your all your talent 0:11:40.480 --> 0:11:44.719 at receiver and go play football. And then defensively, you're 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:47.040 probably gonna see some changes, and there's gonna be changes 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:48.840 because there's there's a lot of guys up in free 0:11:48.880 --> 0:11:51.200 agency next year. Albin Smith one of them, think X right, 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:53.400 They're they're gonna try to resign him. We'll see if 0:11:53.400 --> 0:11:55.560 it turns out being a Robert Quinn type deal where 0:11:55.840 --> 0:11:57.959 you know, maybe the market prevents them from doing that, 0:11:58.280 --> 0:12:01.200 but certainly they want to try, and so having him 0:12:01.240 --> 0:12:03.640 as part of that rotation there, I think is wise 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:05.600 at least to try to get that set for twenty 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:08.360 twenty one. No, I don't have no no, no, no no, 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:10.560 no said, I think you guys are absolutely correct. Um, 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:12.959 you know, I think Gallop Gallop is probably on the table. 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:15.079 If I had to put anybody on the table of 0:12:15.160 --> 0:12:17.000 one of any of our premier guys to be Gallop, 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:20.040 uh somebody, it's not, and not for the reason, not 0:12:20.080 --> 0:12:21.440 for the fact that you actually want to get rid 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:22.880 of him. It's probably you don't want to get rid 0:12:22.920 --> 0:12:24.559 of them. But in terms of the guys that you 0:12:24.559 --> 0:12:27.120 can actually get some value for right now, Um, you know, 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:29.520 and where you can afford to lose somebody, you can 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:32.760 afford to lose a receiver right now. I think we 0:12:32.840 --> 0:12:36.560 have a great trio. Um isn't necessary, no, right, and 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:38.680 you can develop some young receivers right there's a lot 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:40.800 of there's always receivers coming in out out of the draft. 0:12:41.080 --> 0:12:42.920 So I think you can get some good value for 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:45.280 Gallop right now. Alton Smith, I don't think you want 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:47.080 to get get rid of him, especially with your defensive 0:12:47.080 --> 0:12:48.920 line woes. Um, you probably want to try to hold 0:12:48.920 --> 0:12:51.080 on to the guys that actually have proven something. So 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:52.959 I don't I don't think he's on the table by 0:12:52.960 --> 0:12:55.040 any means. But if you had to make a move, 0:12:55.080 --> 0:12:57.000 if you're gonna let one of your one of your 0:12:57.000 --> 0:12:59.120 main guys go, I think it's Gallup. Why Gallup and 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:03.040 not a Marie Coup. Well, Cooper, you just paid them, 0:13:03.120 --> 0:13:05.240 so you're not gonna get rid of Cooper right because 0:13:05.240 --> 0:13:07.120 you just committed. That'd be the silliest thing ever. He 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:09.600 just gave him a bunch of guarantee money. But Gallup, 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:11.800 you know he's going to demand some money in the future. 0:13:12.360 --> 0:13:14.400 He's going to demand amenting in future. And I don't 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:15.880 think that the Alice is going to be in a 0:13:15.920 --> 0:13:18.880 position to pay him in the future, not with the 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:22.000 way that their salary cap issues are lined up. Right, 0:13:22.040 --> 0:13:23.400 So if you know that you're gonna have to offload 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:25.520 him anyways down the road, you might as well get 0:13:25.559 --> 0:13:28.720 him while he's kind of hot now in terms of 0:13:28.840 --> 0:13:31.200 adding talent, and I know that's still kind of on 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:34.040 the table as well. And Jerry didn't necessarily shoot it 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:36.280 down whenever he talked about playing some of these young 0:13:36.360 --> 0:13:40.040 guys and evolving who you have as a part of 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:43.240 it right now. But Rob, whenever it comes to his 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:48.120 answer earlier and maybe the where am I going with this, 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:51.600 I'm trying to talk about the additions that are coming in. 0:13:52.800 --> 0:13:54.760 It's because I don't believe this is going to happen. 0:13:54.840 --> 0:13:58.280 But do you see a potential of an addition at 0:13:58.360 --> 0:14:01.320 some point through before the trade deadline. And if you did, 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:04.080 where would you see what? Position wise, would you even 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:09.880 remotely think about adding somebody. I really don't based on 0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:11.400 what they've said, I mean, I guess you can never 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:13.560 say never. It sounds it sounds like based on what 0:14:13.600 --> 0:14:16.680 they've kind of indicated, they'll take calls, but they're not 0:14:16.760 --> 0:14:18.679 going to make a bunch of calls and be aggressive. 0:14:18.679 --> 0:14:21.560 You know, maybe that changes before three o'clock. We'll see. Um. 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:24.360 I know, I know Stephen referenced the defensive tackle position 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:26.400 and we've talked about that one is you know, especially 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:29.480 in the run defense, you know, moving on from Don 0:14:29.600 --> 0:14:32.680 Terry Poe, they're thin there. They've had trouble shoring up 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:35.840 the middle of that defensive line. That's obvious. But as 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:38.080 Steven pointed out, and it's kind of like I mentioned 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:41.600 at pass rusher, you've got a solid, strong defensive tackle 0:14:41.680 --> 0:14:45.440 for your front um. Those those guys are hard to find, 0:14:45.560 --> 0:14:48.160 so it would take a lot of draft capital to 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:51.000 do that. I don't I just don't see them trading 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:53.920 big draft picks to try to make or run this year. 0:14:54.080 --> 0:14:55.840 Not that they're not trying to compete but I just 0:14:56.000 --> 0:15:00.000 I just don't I don't see that this year. Yeah, 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:02.280 trying to develop the guy. Yeah, just trying to develop 0:15:02.320 --> 0:15:04.440 the guys that you have. Uh. And if there was 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:06.480 a need, if you were going to go somewhere, college 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:10.440 would be at the d tackle for sure, because that's 0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:13.080 where the production has needed to come from and we 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:16.760 just hadn't got gotten anything from it. And you look 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:19.520 at guys like Neville Gallimore and now Tristan Hill. That 0:15:19.600 --> 0:15:24.360 injury also kind of amplifies because you get rid of Pole, 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:27.320 you get rid of Everson Griffin, and so you need 0:15:27.360 --> 0:15:30.880 more guys and so Hamilton are the other guys that 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:33.240 you have that are coming off of the practice squad 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:35.640 in this whole youth movement and trying to get these 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:39.040 guys from repping reps in Neville Gallimore has filled in, 0:15:39.760 --> 0:15:42.800 you know quite fine. We h there are some few 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:44.560 a few things that he does that you want to 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:47.360 underline circle in highlight that you want to improve on. 0:15:47.440 --> 0:15:49.920 And I'm sure there's a defense they've talked to this 0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:52.240 guy about that. But that's where we have to get 0:15:52.240 --> 0:15:54.360 the push in. If we're looking anywhere, it's going to 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:56.880 be at the d tackle. And also safety, and I'm 0:15:56.880 --> 0:16:01.680 sure Isaiah has a lot. Yeah, I mean I think 0:16:01.680 --> 0:16:04.040 they're I think the safety position obviously, I've been everybody 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:05.440 knows where I stand on this. I think that's a 0:16:05.480 --> 0:16:07.120 position that we can add and it would have a 0:16:07.240 --> 0:16:10.000 huge impact right now. I think that's a position that 0:16:10.040 --> 0:16:11.880 you get that you can have a drastic impact. And 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:14.000 obviously the defensive line. Obviously you see Dallas trying to 0:16:14.040 --> 0:16:15.880 make some moves in that regard in terms of trading 0:16:15.920 --> 0:16:18.680 for for Eli Uma know how to pronounced his last name, 0:16:19.080 --> 0:16:21.960 m uncle, I would assume think, yeah, ads, something like that, Yeah, 0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:23.600 something like that. You know. So they're trying to get 0:16:23.600 --> 0:16:26.000 some young, hungry guys in here. So they did do that. 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:28.400 I know, nobody's really talking about that right now. Um, 0:16:28.400 --> 0:16:30.040 probably not a lot of film out, but you know, 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:32.120 they're bringing in guys that are hungry at that position 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:34.840 and they're hoping that some of that turns into fruition. Um. 0:16:34.880 --> 0:16:36.920 But yeah, safety, man, safety, If you get a safety 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:40.320 back there, your your secondary warriors go away. UM. I 0:16:40.360 --> 0:16:42.680 think that, you know, a great communication on the back 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:45.120 end of your defense makes a huge difference. Um. And 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:47.480 then it's in terms of upfront you just need effort. 0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:49.160 You need some effort guys. You need guys that are 0:16:49.160 --> 0:16:50.680 you know, they're and they're getting that right now and 0:16:50.720 --> 0:16:53.080 they're they're going to get better. Um, they're obviously not 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:54.760 very good right now, but they will get better. And 0:16:54.760 --> 0:16:56.080 that's this position where you just have to have a 0:16:56.080 --> 0:16:58.320 ton of reps. When you're in the secondary, you need 0:16:58.400 --> 0:17:00.840 you need a lot of identification, right You need to 0:17:00.840 --> 0:17:03.520 be able to identified you know, you need concepts. You 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:06.720 need to be identify splits, you need to identify, you know, thrends. 0:17:07.119 --> 0:17:09.399 And that's where a veteran safety can come in and 0:17:09.440 --> 0:17:12.359 help those guys out in Neverguard. 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You want to hear about how you're gonna 0:20:59.280 --> 0:21:02.080 get to the next one, but we've got some time 0:21:02.160 --> 0:21:09.240 for fans on the fifty. Fans on the fifty, I 0:21:09.320 --> 0:21:12.840 believe the sounder played in the background. Okay, Blade, Okay, cool, 0:21:12.840 --> 0:21:15.439 We're good. So we're moving on with fans on the fifty. 0:21:15.560 --> 0:21:18.679 Continue sending in your questions. I'm reading the periscope stream 0:21:18.720 --> 0:21:22.560 and also in our Twitter mentions as well. Rob, this 0:21:22.560 --> 0:21:25.840 one's gonna go for you. This is from mister Dave 0:21:26.000 --> 0:21:30.200 a Ron and he says, will Cheeto be back this week? 0:21:30.240 --> 0:21:32.320 Of course he was supposed to be back last week, 0:21:32.359 --> 0:21:34.880 but what are the words around the building in terms 0:21:34.880 --> 0:21:40.399 of Cheetahowoozier making his return against Pittsburgh. It sounds like 0:21:40.440 --> 0:21:43.639 they're optimistic about this week, and I'm like you, guys, man, 0:21:43.680 --> 0:21:46.920 I was surprised he didn't play and wasn't activated off 0:21:46.920 --> 0:21:50.040 of IR on Saturday, because I feel like late in 0:21:50.040 --> 0:21:53.280 the week Mike McCarthy was talking about not just whether 0:21:53.320 --> 0:21:55.359 he would play, but how many snaps he would play 0:21:55.440 --> 0:21:57.960 against the Eagles. So they decided he just wasn't quite 0:21:57.960 --> 0:22:01.680 ready coming off the hamstring, and Sean Lee and Joe 0:22:01.680 --> 0:22:05.719 Looney were activated instead, But they could have activated him. 0:22:05.720 --> 0:22:07.240 They just wanted to wait another week. I think he was. 0:22:07.760 --> 0:22:10.520 I think he started the practice window on the twenty second, 0:22:10.760 --> 0:22:13.760 so they didn't have to do it over this past weekend. 0:22:13.880 --> 0:22:16.159 And I think there's probably a decent chance they'll be 0:22:16.200 --> 0:22:20.760 back this week all right. And whenever it comes to 0:22:21.160 --> 0:22:24.080 Cheeto Heckman, you look at what he brings to the table, 0:22:24.880 --> 0:22:29.080 especially as just extra security in that secondary. What a 0:22:29.080 --> 0:22:31.480 week it would be back to have him back against 0:22:31.840 --> 0:22:36.400 Pittsburgh coming up this week. Well, if there's a week 0:22:36.440 --> 0:22:38.800 for him to come back and make an impact, it 0:22:38.880 --> 0:22:41.600 would be this one. Obviously we could have definitely used 0:22:41.680 --> 0:22:45.720 him in his strength last week, but this we we 0:22:45.840 --> 0:22:48.679 have some firepower coming our way at AT and TU 0:22:48.880 --> 0:22:54.120 this Sunday and Chase Claypool, they Juju Smith Schuster. It's 0:22:54.119 --> 0:22:58.520 gonna be quite an event for our secondary. So Cheeto, 0:22:58.640 --> 0:23:00.639 you know what he gives you. He's a lot physical, 0:23:00.680 --> 0:23:03.760 He's a you know, physical corner for us. And I 0:23:03.800 --> 0:23:06.480 think with he and Diggs and Brown and people are 0:23:06.520 --> 0:23:10.080 not talking about Brown. Brown did really well versus the 0:23:10.080 --> 0:23:12.040 Eagles also. I want to make mention of that, But 0:23:12.160 --> 0:23:15.880 Cheeto would be a necessary addition to our secondary that's 0:23:15.920 --> 0:23:18.960 looking to get healthier and would definitely show up and 0:23:19.000 --> 0:23:22.199 make up some plays for us. Do you think the 0:23:22.240 --> 0:23:25.679 same thing I do? I do it hurt that they 0:23:25.680 --> 0:23:28.159 didn't have him. And the thing about bringing Cheeto back is, 0:23:28.200 --> 0:23:30.159 you know, you take the pressure off of Digs of 0:23:30.200 --> 0:23:32.880 having to facial number one receiver. And I think that's 0:23:32.880 --> 0:23:36.359 absolutely imperative right now because Diggs is obviously he's not 0:23:36.440 --> 0:23:39.000 ready for that. He's he's getting better, he's getting better, 0:23:39.040 --> 0:23:41.360 but he should not have to bear that responsibility. So 0:23:41.400 --> 0:23:43.160 I think as soon as Cheeto comes back, I think, 0:23:43.200 --> 0:23:45.640 you know, things get better on that end. Let's talk 0:23:45.680 --> 0:23:49.720 about potential position change. This is from Gary. By the way, 0:23:49.720 --> 0:23:52.680 Gary went and voted this morning. He sent a picture 0:23:52.720 --> 0:23:56.399 of the I voted today, so Gee went out and voted. 0:23:56.560 --> 0:24:00.919 He says Jalen Smith is downright bad at linebackers. So 0:24:00.960 --> 0:24:03.040 that's how he starts this question off bringing the fire 0:24:03.040 --> 0:24:05.600 and I like it. Wow, what would you guys think? 0:24:06.480 --> 0:24:08.919 What would you guys think about moving him onto the 0:24:08.960 --> 0:24:12.920 line of scrimmage as a situational pass rusher already with 0:24:12.960 --> 0:24:17.080 a big no, Okay, that's the question. Why not for 0:24:17.119 --> 0:24:19.399 the same reasons why you think he's not a good linebackers. 0:24:19.440 --> 0:24:21.160 The same reason why he wouldn't be a good defensive 0:24:21.200 --> 0:24:24.640 man that he cannot get off blocks and he gets 0:24:24.640 --> 0:24:27.360 consumed by officeive lignement. So by putting him that much 0:24:27.400 --> 0:24:29.520 closer with less momentum, it's probably not going to work 0:24:29.560 --> 0:24:36.320 to his advantage. Okay, Rob, Yeah, he's he's too high. 0:24:36.440 --> 0:24:38.360 Just looked it up. He's two hundred and thirty pounds. 0:24:38.840 --> 0:24:40.560 I can't ask him to do that line up on 0:24:40.600 --> 0:24:42.840 the edge and and and getting a three point stance 0:24:42.920 --> 0:24:45.840 and and take on blockers. I mean, I think I 0:24:45.840 --> 0:24:50.639 think role in agreement. His best skill is probably moving 0:24:50.680 --> 0:24:54.280 forward blitzing. That's different than than than playing the position 0:24:54.440 --> 0:24:59.800 full time. Heck yeah, definitely. And man, everybody's down on 0:25:00.040 --> 0:25:04.160 on Jalen, and rightfully so Taylan is. Man, he's making 0:25:04.200 --> 0:25:08.040 some misreads and it just looks bad on his part. 0:25:08.240 --> 0:25:11.800 And I don't think a position changes the answer. And 0:25:11.840 --> 0:25:13.919 I think there's a lot of this this thing that 0:25:14.000 --> 0:25:16.000 you think that you can just plug and play guys, 0:25:16.320 --> 0:25:18.200 and it just doesn't work like that. And at two 0:25:18.280 --> 0:25:21.120 hundred and thirty pounds, he would definitely be on an 0:25:21.160 --> 0:25:24.879 island for some right tackle to feast on. So I 0:25:24.920 --> 0:25:27.399 don't think that that would be ideal for if you 0:25:27.440 --> 0:25:30.159 think he's bad, now wait until you switch him to 0:25:30.200 --> 0:25:31.960 d end. Yeah. I think he would have to add 0:25:32.000 --> 0:25:34.800 a good twenty pounds at least and then also find 0:25:34.800 --> 0:25:38.480 a way to change direction at the same time learn 0:25:38.520 --> 0:25:40.560 how to pivot a little bit, maybe two forty but 0:25:40.640 --> 0:25:44.159 still yeah, yeah, exactly. I still think yeah, either way, 0:25:44.200 --> 0:25:46.760 you're gonna have to ask some way. And since Gary 0:25:46.880 --> 0:25:48.880 went off and voted, we're gonna actually let him ask 0:25:48.920 --> 0:25:50.879 two questions in a row. And that doesn't happen a 0:25:50.880 --> 0:25:53.199 whole lot on this show. So congratulations, Gary, you went 0:25:53.240 --> 0:25:56.120 and voted, We're gonna give you two. Also, Luke Gifford 0:25:56.160 --> 0:25:59.399 showed some real promise this year before his injury. Is 0:25:59.400 --> 0:26:02.760 there any chance we see him or the undrafted free 0:26:02.760 --> 0:26:11.760 agent Francis Bernard anytime soon? Rob, That's that's a that's 0:26:11.760 --> 0:26:16.399 an interesting thought. Um, you know maybe. I mean, I 0:26:17.160 --> 0:26:18.680 I can't tell you I have a good feel for 0:26:18.760 --> 0:26:20.920 Luke Gifford just because of the injuries. I mean, he 0:26:20.960 --> 0:26:23.119 hasn't played this year, and he was really in and 0:26:23.119 --> 0:26:25.439 out of the lineup last year. When he's been on 0:26:25.480 --> 0:26:29.000 the field those preseason games, he does have some instincts. 0:26:29.000 --> 0:26:31.960 You know, he's a physical player like what we saw 0:26:32.040 --> 0:26:35.119 from Francis Bernard in preseason. Um, but I kind of 0:26:35.119 --> 0:26:38.040 feel like, you know, there, Sean Lee is gonna be 0:26:38.119 --> 0:26:40.880 set for more snaps here. I think he had four 0:26:40.920 --> 0:26:44.800 in the game, uh the other day, and I think 0:26:44.840 --> 0:26:46.800 Mike said they wanted to get him probably like a dozen. 0:26:46.920 --> 0:26:48.959 So I think they're still gonna try to work him 0:26:49.000 --> 0:26:52.520 in because m having Sean on the field will will 0:26:52.560 --> 0:26:56.440 help the run defense, the defense in general, just from 0:26:56.440 --> 0:26:58.960 a communication standpoint. I mean, he knows what he's doing 0:26:59.000 --> 0:27:01.240 back there, and I think they're still trying to shore 0:27:01.280 --> 0:27:02.520 that up and the best way to do that, I 0:27:02.520 --> 0:27:03.960 think is to get Sean Lee on the field a 0:27:04.000 --> 0:27:08.600 little bit more. Completely agree with you, Rob, Yeah, I 0:27:08.600 --> 0:27:10.840 completely agree with you Rob on that. And Gifford came 0:27:10.880 --> 0:27:14.320 into the league from Nebraska with the injury bug and 0:27:14.920 --> 0:27:18.240 it's just continued. I know, he's a guy that's trying 0:27:18.280 --> 0:27:20.040 to get healthy and get on the roll, and he's 0:27:20.080 --> 0:27:22.919 a fan favorite because we just don't know what he 0:27:23.000 --> 0:27:26.160 can do. But Francis Bernard is another kid that's that's 0:27:26.200 --> 0:27:28.600 doing really well for us and special teams, and that's 0:27:28.600 --> 0:27:32.400 gonna be his way to get involved defensively. But Rob, 0:27:32.440 --> 0:27:35.280 you're right, Sean Lee is back. He gives us that 0:27:35.440 --> 0:27:40.440 added leadership, you know, along with vander esh that I 0:27:40.480 --> 0:27:45.280 think we needed right and his injury and return, maybe 0:27:45.320 --> 0:27:48.359 it helps shore up some of the miscommunication that we've 0:27:48.400 --> 0:27:50.359 had in the you know, just in the front line, 0:27:50.520 --> 0:27:52.680 and you just see so much a weekend and week 0:27:52.720 --> 0:27:56.840 out just miscommunication and guy's getting lined up properly. That's 0:27:56.880 --> 0:28:00.280 been a problem for the Dallas Cowboys defense. So you know, 0:28:00.320 --> 0:28:04.120 Sean Lee being back is definitely big, but that would 0:28:04.160 --> 0:28:07.800 be a hard pass on gift or right now, leave 0:28:07.840 --> 0:28:10.480 it the way it is, Leave it the way it is, 0:28:10.760 --> 0:28:12.359 Leave it the way it is. Sean Lee roll him 0:28:12.400 --> 0:28:13.960 in there, and he didn't look that good though he 0:28:14.000 --> 0:28:15.600 got he got hit stick a little bit when I 0:28:15.600 --> 0:28:17.359 saw him. But he has to get some reps underneath 0:28:17.400 --> 0:28:20.680 him him again. But yeah, I mean Shan Lee's mental capacity. 0:28:20.960 --> 0:28:22.840 I mean, when you when you're smart, when you're a 0:28:22.880 --> 0:28:24.960 smart player in this league, especially at the linebacker position, 0:28:24.960 --> 0:28:27.560 it allows for you to play a long time even 0:28:27.600 --> 0:28:30.440 when your physical has gone away. And there's a perfect 0:28:30.440 --> 0:28:32.960 example that by a name of a guy by the 0:28:33.040 --> 0:28:35.760 name of ray Lewis played a lot of years, even 0:28:35.760 --> 0:28:37.800 when his physical ability started kind of doing the lean 0:28:37.920 --> 0:28:40.760 going away, but simply because he was smarter. I mean, 0:28:40.800 --> 0:28:42.720 he was able to identify things we talked about the 0:28:42.760 --> 0:28:44.800 identity piece, and he's able to see things that he 0:28:44.840 --> 0:28:46.440 saw on film. He gets to see it in person. 0:28:46.520 --> 0:28:48.960 He's able to beat you there by getting there maybe 0:28:48.960 --> 0:28:51.440 a half step earlier. He's able to do that. Shan 0:28:51.480 --> 0:28:52.800 Lee's gonna be able to do that, and he's gonna 0:28:52.800 --> 0:28:54.960 be able to help his defensive lignement. These hungry young 0:28:55.040 --> 0:28:57.480 guys get lined up in a proper position, um as 0:28:57.480 --> 0:28:59.600 he sees things that he that he saw on film. Yeah, 0:28:59.600 --> 0:29:02.720 and I think we're seeing the at least the example 0:29:02.800 --> 0:29:06.080 of if you have good linebackers, healthy linebackers. I should say, 0:29:06.160 --> 0:29:08.960 if you have healthy linebackers in the fold as starters, 0:29:09.000 --> 0:29:11.240 they usually don't leave the field a whole lot in 0:29:11.480 --> 0:29:13.400 the middle of the game. And I mean Joe Thomas 0:29:13.520 --> 0:29:15.920 is still in that conversation as maybe that third or 0:29:15.960 --> 0:29:19.480 fourth guy you still have. I guess Gifford would probably 0:29:19.520 --> 0:29:22.640 be the next man up in that case. But even then, 0:29:22.760 --> 0:29:26.520 I mean he showed some flashes for sure, and I 0:29:26.840 --> 0:29:29.600 thought Bernard was better during training camp, and that's really 0:29:29.600 --> 0:29:32.800 the biggest chunk of time we've seen those guys actually 0:29:32.800 --> 0:29:35.560 on the field. But I mean, I also thought we 0:29:36.200 --> 0:29:38.680 had a good look at training camp for a lot 0:29:38.720 --> 0:29:41.760 of guys, and that hasn't necessarily panned out either, so 0:29:42.400 --> 0:29:46.920 you can't really trust that. Yeah, I think there's I 0:29:47.440 --> 0:29:50.800 think there's a difference between you know, playing the young 0:29:50.840 --> 0:29:53.000 guys just to play the young guys, and playing the 0:29:53.040 --> 0:29:56.880 young guys because guys in front of them are not 0:29:56.920 --> 0:29:59.680 being productive. And I think, you know, look done Terry Poe, 0:30:00.360 --> 0:30:03.719 Daryl Worley, even Everson Griffin. I mean, they moved on 0:30:03.800 --> 0:30:06.880 because they wanted to see maybe more production from from 0:30:06.920 --> 0:30:10.200 younger guys we're talking about as Sean Lee, Ronald and Smith. 0:30:11.640 --> 0:30:14.760 I think they feel better about getting production from those 0:30:14.800 --> 0:30:17.640 guys when they're healthier when they're on the field. That's 0:30:17.920 --> 0:30:20.080 there's a difference between just trotting out the young guys 0:30:20.120 --> 0:30:21.480 just to play the young guys. I don't think they're 0:30:21.520 --> 0:30:22.960 in that mode yet. I think they're just trying to 0:30:22.960 --> 0:30:26.600 feel the best guys they can to help try to 0:30:26.600 --> 0:30:28.960 get something going. Defensively, They're still in that mode. It's 0:30:29.000 --> 0:30:31.760 not it's not a tank mode. It's just not. Yeah, 0:30:31.800 --> 0:30:34.600 it's just it's a tryout mode. It's honestly what it 0:30:34.720 --> 0:30:37.760 kind of feels like. It's come prove yourself right now 0:30:37.800 --> 0:30:40.720 and find a way to get some of those reps 0:30:40.800 --> 0:30:45.080 later on in your career. Now, speaking of making moves 0:30:45.200 --> 0:30:48.920 and clearing way and doing something crazy, how about this? 0:30:48.920 --> 0:30:51.800 This is from Darby on our periscope stream. By the way, 0:30:51.920 --> 0:30:55.200 keep sending in questions, but does it make sense to 0:30:55.440 --> 0:31:02.480 deal one Ezekiel Elliott while he still has value? Why 0:31:02.520 --> 0:31:06.000 are you shaking your head? Isaiah? Answer the question? No? 0:31:07.080 --> 0:31:11.440 Um no, So I mean why where do you find 0:31:11.440 --> 0:31:14.680 another Zeke? Do you not have one in the backfield? No? 0:31:14.840 --> 0:31:18.280 You don't actually, um, I mean Paula's are good back 0:31:18.280 --> 0:31:20.840 but he's no Zeke. Let's be let's be honest about it. Um. 0:31:20.960 --> 0:31:23.240 Zeke's down right now. Just because somebody's down for a 0:31:23.240 --> 0:31:25.560 couple of games doesn't mean that you just ship them off. 0:31:25.920 --> 0:31:27.760 He's been good to this organization for a long time. 0:31:27.840 --> 0:31:29.200 He has a lot of juice left. I don't think 0:31:29.240 --> 0:31:31.160 there's any question about that. He had a couple of 0:31:31.200 --> 0:31:32.920 fumbels this year and he has an office, a line 0:31:32.920 --> 0:31:36.280 that's that's um, that's playing musical chairs. Things were settling 0:31:36.280 --> 0:31:38.000 and he'll start getting back to being the zeke that 0:31:38.040 --> 0:31:40.800 everybody knows. But it takes more than just a running 0:31:40.800 --> 0:31:42.800 back and getting the ball from the quarterback to be 0:31:42.880 --> 0:31:45.440 successful in this league. Now, I mean, and once once 0:31:45.480 --> 0:31:48.080 the Cowboys figure things out out up front, you know, 0:31:48.120 --> 0:31:49.760 I think he'll fix it. I think him pretty sure 0:31:49.920 --> 0:31:52.320 he's fixed his fumbling woes. Um, then it's just a't 0:31:52.320 --> 0:31:54.400 matter just finding the holes. But you know, it's it's 0:31:54.440 --> 0:31:57.200 not just it's not easy as getting the ball and running. 0:31:57.360 --> 0:31:59.240 There's there's guys on the other side of the ball 0:31:59.280 --> 0:32:01.320 that are getting hate to do what they do and 0:32:01.360 --> 0:32:03.400 their jobs to stop you. And if they're better than 0:32:03.440 --> 0:32:06.000 your guys up front, your chances are getting a good 0:32:06.040 --> 0:32:07.680 yard is just not gonna happen. But you, I mean, 0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:10.680 he had he had an okay game the other night. Uns. Yeah, 0:32:10.760 --> 0:32:12.320 it was better than the first two games or the 0:32:12.400 --> 0:32:15.320 last two games, I guess in that regard. Yeah, heck, 0:32:15.320 --> 0:32:20.520 when do you agree? No, I agree with it, And 0:32:20.560 --> 0:32:23.440 it's just Man twenty twenty, and the council culture of 0:32:23.480 --> 0:32:28.080 Mafia is a trip. Man and you know, I get it. 0:32:28.120 --> 0:32:30.400 I get it. I think a guy has a down year. 0:32:30.840 --> 0:32:34.360 You start if you start listening to people say, you know, 0:32:34.400 --> 0:32:37.320 the running back position is down, and all the analytical 0:32:37.360 --> 0:32:39.400 people that say you really don't need a running back 0:32:39.440 --> 0:32:42.880 to win, uh, you start to kind of buy in 0:32:43.440 --> 0:32:46.000 to those. I just don't believe that. I think that. 0:32:46.400 --> 0:32:48.680 You know, I'm a I'm a guy watched football boxing 0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:51.000 and I'm big time boxing fan. I think a lot 0:32:51.000 --> 0:32:53.520 of times when you watch a boxer take some some 0:32:53.600 --> 0:32:56.360 big shots, it changes who that guy is. And some 0:32:56.680 --> 0:32:59.320 time off, you know, getting in a good training camp, 0:32:59.440 --> 0:33:01.560 you see your whole another guy returned to the ring. 0:33:01.920 --> 0:33:04.120 I'm looking at his Zeke just like that man. He's 0:33:04.160 --> 0:33:06.680 taking some shots. Man, I don't care if you watch 0:33:06.720 --> 0:33:08.920 the tape. Just like the blitz from the linebacker from 0:33:08.960 --> 0:33:11.400 the Riskins, that was a shot, and he is taking 0:33:11.400 --> 0:33:13.760 a few just this year. And so I'm not saying 0:33:13.800 --> 0:33:16.240 that he's gunshot. I just think that he's a running 0:33:16.240 --> 0:33:18.840 back that's looking for that contact to be on him 0:33:19.080 --> 0:33:21.800 once he gets the ball. And you're seeing that repeatedly 0:33:22.040 --> 0:33:25.160 on tape. Zeke will get get the hand off, and 0:33:25.200 --> 0:33:28.120 there's a guy already on his hip pocket. So just 0:33:28.160 --> 0:33:30.880 for him, I just I just really want for him 0:33:31.160 --> 0:33:35.040 to finish this year off as strong as he can. Um. 0:33:35.160 --> 0:33:38.080 I think now in the NFL, a thousand yards is nothing, 0:33:38.760 --> 0:33:41.680 but at the same time, if he could reach that, 0:33:41.680 --> 0:33:45.400 that's gonna be a positive for him. I didn't know 0:33:45.440 --> 0:33:47.720 you're a boxing fan too. Heck, that's cool, we got 0:33:47.760 --> 0:33:50.880 something to talk about. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a good 0:33:50.880 --> 0:33:53.400 analogy I think. Um, I'm in agreement with you guys 0:33:53.480 --> 0:33:56.200 because I mentioned running back next year. I think they're 0:33:56.200 --> 0:33:59.479 absolutely gonna running back offensively. It's a It's been a 0:33:59.480 --> 0:34:02.880 really weird year for Zeke because of the score. Some 0:34:02.960 --> 0:34:05.280 of it's been his fault, and he's owned up to 0:34:05.320 --> 0:34:08.319 those mistakes, those turnovers that have put the offense in 0:34:08.400 --> 0:34:12.600 deficits along with the defense that have limited his opportunities. 0:34:13.640 --> 0:34:16.080 And then the line is a factor too. There haven't 0:34:16.120 --> 0:34:18.239 been the big explosive runs the last couple of years. 0:34:18.600 --> 0:34:21.000 That's well documented. I know people that are critical of 0:34:21.080 --> 0:34:24.640 Zeke have cited that. I continue to look at the 0:34:24.719 --> 0:34:27.680 ten plus yard runs, which do count as explosive runs 0:34:27.719 --> 0:34:30.920 in the NFL, and despite the lack of carries, he's 0:34:30.920 --> 0:34:32.879 going to have probably the lowest carry total he's had 0:34:32.880 --> 0:34:36.000 since twenty seventeen when he missed six games on suspension. 0:34:36.640 --> 0:34:39.600 He's right there in the top eleven and ten plus 0:34:39.680 --> 0:34:41.600 yard runs this year, he's right there. I think he's 0:34:41.880 --> 0:34:44.880 got twelve. He's tied with James Connor, he's tied with 0:34:44.920 --> 0:34:49.520 the Kamara and Derrick Henry's got seventeen. So I think 0:34:49.560 --> 0:34:52.480 he can he can still be productive for them. They 0:34:52.520 --> 0:34:54.760 just need to take care of better care of the ball. 0:34:55.080 --> 0:34:57.560 They've got to get healthier on the offensive line and 0:34:58.200 --> 0:35:00.960 have some leads every now and then. God for every 0:35:01.000 --> 0:35:02.960 now and then, when you're not playing from behind, it's 0:35:03.160 --> 0:35:06.000 it's wonderful when you can do that. It happened a 0:35:06.080 --> 0:35:09.000 couple of times last last week and it actually helped 0:35:09.000 --> 0:35:12.759 Ben d Nucci. So that's that's kind of where they're at. 0:35:12.840 --> 0:35:14.800 And I look, I would like to see more Tony 0:35:14.840 --> 0:35:16.799 Pollard the rest of the way too. It's not so 0:35:16.880 --> 0:35:18.919 much about Zeke. It's just look the way he ran 0:35:19.040 --> 0:35:21.759 last week, and they need that type of balance back. 0:35:21.800 --> 0:35:24.920 They need both guys to help out the quarterback, whoever's 0:35:24.920 --> 0:35:27.439 in there. I've got a look at us Rob learning 0:35:27.440 --> 0:35:29.719 a lot about each other. You know, I didn't know 0:35:29.800 --> 0:35:33.640 you were Warren g fan. That's Rob Pe coming at 0:35:33.680 --> 0:35:41.000 you live from the SWBC Mortgage studios, Rob P. I've 0:35:41.040 --> 0:35:43.480 got a I've got a very bold thing to say 0:35:43.560 --> 0:35:48.360 about Tony P and mister Ezekiel Elliott. I think Zeke 0:35:48.520 --> 0:35:50.520 is by far the better back, and you don't get 0:35:50.600 --> 0:35:52.480 rid of him. So I'm an ingrediance of all of 0:35:52.480 --> 0:35:54.719 you guys, but I think Tony Pollard is a better 0:35:54.840 --> 0:35:58.040 suited back for your current situation with the line that 0:35:58.080 --> 0:36:00.799 you have up front. Ezekiel Ellie, it's a guy who 0:36:00.840 --> 0:36:03.400 you want one on one tacklers against. You want him 0:36:03.440 --> 0:36:06.200 to break a tackle. That's what springs his long runs. 0:36:06.400 --> 0:36:08.719 Tony Pollard's a guy that's gonna run around you. He's 0:36:08.719 --> 0:36:11.080 not as physical a back. He's more of an elusive back. 0:36:11.160 --> 0:36:13.720 He's somebody who can break a tackle and then maybe 0:36:13.760 --> 0:36:16.520 make the second man miss. That's never been Zeke's game. 0:36:16.600 --> 0:36:18.560 It never has been. He's been a physical back of 0:36:18.640 --> 0:36:21.600 bellcal somebody who's over and over and over again gonna 0:36:21.600 --> 0:36:24.120 get the football. Whereas Tony Pollard is one of those 0:36:24.200 --> 0:36:30.920 lightning in a bottle type of players. I hear you Okay, 0:36:31.080 --> 0:36:34.000 I hear you. And if if, if running back only, 0:36:34.280 --> 0:36:36.359 if your only job as a running back, your soul, 0:36:36.480 --> 0:36:38.360 your sole purpose was to simply get the ball and 0:36:38.440 --> 0:36:42.000 run it, I might agree agree with you. Okay, however, um, 0:36:42.160 --> 0:36:46.000 there's a game called passing. I agree completely. These guys 0:36:46.000 --> 0:36:48.560 have to block, and if anybody's been paying any attention, 0:36:48.640 --> 0:36:51.000 Ezekiel is probably one of the best blocking running backs 0:36:51.000 --> 0:36:53.719 in the league. He saved multiple songs as he's done 0:36:53.760 --> 0:36:56.400 a heck of a job this year picking up blitz. 0:36:56.680 --> 0:36:58.480 As we know, we've seen a lot of it. He's 0:36:58.480 --> 0:37:00.239 just go back and watch the film. He's picking dues 0:37:00.320 --> 0:37:02.239 up left and right and knocking him. He's putting his 0:37:02.280 --> 0:37:03.879 head in there. When he hasn't been able to run 0:37:03.880 --> 0:37:07.479 the ball effectively, he's blocked effectively. Mean, he's gotten himself 0:37:07.520 --> 0:37:09.120 embarrassed a couple of times as well. I mean as 0:37:09.360 --> 0:37:11.960 that you know their professional sky is gonna happen, but 0:37:12.080 --> 0:37:13.960 he is. He has stuck his neck out there for 0:37:14.120 --> 0:37:17.000 these quarterbacks, all three of them, and I think that 0:37:17.040 --> 0:37:18.520 has something that you know, they have to give him 0:37:18.520 --> 0:37:24.880 respect for it and never regard you guys agree, Yeah, 0:37:24.880 --> 0:37:28.319 he said it. He laid it down on the table. No, 0:37:28.400 --> 0:37:30.279 I'm glad. I'm glad you brought that up, because there 0:37:30.360 --> 0:37:33.120 is more to the tailback position than just running the football. 0:37:33.160 --> 0:37:36.879 I'm talking specifically running it. You could go either way, 0:37:36.920 --> 0:37:39.759 but I think Zeke's definitely the more and it's not 0:37:39.800 --> 0:37:42.080 even close. I don't think the more valuable back, and 0:37:42.120 --> 0:37:43.880 you don't necessarily move on from that when you have 0:37:43.880 --> 0:37:46.360 a talent like him in the backfield. We got a 0:37:46.360 --> 0:37:49.200 couple more questions. 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On the way that 0:40:27.320 --> 0:40:29.600 we do these virtual shows, we have like a side 0:40:29.719 --> 0:40:31.839 channel that we all hear each other on and see 0:40:31.840 --> 0:40:35.520 each other on. And then basically Hecma and Rob are 0:40:35.520 --> 0:40:38.120 looking at themselves the whole time. I mean, that's the 0:40:38.160 --> 0:40:40.560 only thing they see, so they don't get to see 0:40:40.719 --> 0:40:43.480 us at all. They're just looking at their own smiling faces. 0:40:44.200 --> 0:40:46.920 And it is talent and Kyle, I'm in heaven and 0:40:47.000 --> 0:40:54.880 I'm in here. Wow. Okay, yes, forget the sultry voice 0:40:54.320 --> 0:40:58.760 about the white spot. We did have At some point 0:40:59.000 --> 0:41:02.880 somebody asked who his dentist was on a chat stream 0:41:02.920 --> 0:41:05.000 and we all lost it. Oh, it was so funny 0:41:05.760 --> 0:41:08.680 and he didn't even say the answers. Yeah, yeah, it's 0:41:08.719 --> 0:41:11.120 just a big old toothbrush as all it is. Okay, 0:41:11.920 --> 0:41:16.400 So we have one more segment here, a couple more minutes, 0:41:16.440 --> 0:41:19.600 and Chris asked this question. I wanted to bring it 0:41:19.680 --> 0:41:23.080 up anyways, because it was a topic of conversation yesterday 0:41:23.160 --> 0:41:26.200 following the loss to Philadelphia, and it was definitely on 0:41:26.239 --> 0:41:30.400 our show talking about the play calling. And Mike McCarthy 0:41:30.440 --> 0:41:33.839 was asked yesterday during this press conference, why won't Mike 0:41:33.920 --> 0:41:37.799 McCarthy take over the play calling from Kellen Moore? And 0:41:37.800 --> 0:41:39.600 he said it's a non issue. He said, it's not 0:41:39.640 --> 0:41:42.399 even a question. Hadn't even crossed his mind, not even 0:41:42.440 --> 0:41:45.719 a thing that they're talking about doing. But we even 0:41:45.719 --> 0:41:48.440 talked about it yesterday. There were lapses in play calling 0:41:48.480 --> 0:41:51.000 whenever it came to that game on Sunday night, Rob 0:41:51.040 --> 0:41:53.319 and what do you think about what McCarthy said at 0:41:53.320 --> 0:41:56.360 the table, I enjoy the fact and I respect the 0:41:56.400 --> 0:41:58.560 fact that he didn't throw his man under the bus. 0:41:58.600 --> 0:42:00.920 But at some point that's to be a conversation to 0:42:00.960 --> 0:42:06.000 be had, right I don't Now, I don't think he's 0:42:06.400 --> 0:42:12.400 planning to do that. Okay, he's you know, he's he 0:42:12.520 --> 0:42:14.600 wants to empower his coaches, and I think he wants 0:42:14.600 --> 0:42:17.759 to show faith in his coaches. And I feel like 0:42:18.480 --> 0:42:22.239 in order for him to do that, he's am I 0:42:22.280 --> 0:42:25.480 still off, No, you're we can hear I'm hearing myself twice. 0:42:28.040 --> 0:42:32.120 In order to have success offensively, I think he wants 0:42:32.120 --> 0:42:36.040 to empower his coaches, and to do that, I think 0:42:36.080 --> 0:42:38.160 he's got to show faith with them, even when they're 0:42:38.160 --> 0:42:42.160 having injuries, when there's problems upfront, and you know, they 0:42:42.200 --> 0:42:45.520 didn't have these same problems with the injuries before the injuries. 0:42:45.840 --> 0:42:47.680 So I think really with the issues they've had have 0:42:47.760 --> 0:42:52.759 been situationally. The fumble near outside the red zone in 0:42:52.800 --> 0:42:56.120 the third quarter, you know, and some of the things 0:42:56.160 --> 0:42:58.200 they've dialed up in the red zone. They've just got 0:42:58.200 --> 0:43:01.120 to be a little bit better situationally. But I think overall, 0:43:01.239 --> 0:43:03.200 you've got a point to the injuries more than anything 0:43:03.880 --> 0:43:06.239 than what Kellen Moore's done from play calling standpoint at 0:43:06.239 --> 0:43:11.960 this point. HECKMA, you know, that's a difficult one for 0:43:12.040 --> 0:43:16.239 me because I've always respected my coach Mike McCarthy as 0:43:16.280 --> 0:43:18.960 a play caller. That's, you know, as I'm used to 0:43:19.040 --> 0:43:22.440 seeing him standing there with that laminated play sheet calling 0:43:22.520 --> 0:43:26.400 his plays. And I guess when he during the hiring 0:43:26.480 --> 0:43:29.839 process or and he won't admitted because he was said 0:43:29.840 --> 0:43:33.000 that he wanted Kellen Moore on his staff. But it's 0:43:33.040 --> 0:43:35.040 hard for me to fathom a guy that's gone his 0:43:35.040 --> 0:43:38.000 whole career calling plays now all of a sudden just 0:43:38.480 --> 0:43:41.120 giving that up. But if that's the case, there has 0:43:41.160 --> 0:43:45.759 to be some questions, especially last against Philadelphia with just 0:43:45.800 --> 0:43:48.839 the double reverses the play call. I just thought that 0:43:48.920 --> 0:43:52.160 was a horrible play call, and I guess you could 0:43:52.280 --> 0:43:55.760 question through the season just multiple things that have happened. 0:43:55.960 --> 0:43:58.799 But I have always thought that Mike McCarthy would have 0:43:58.840 --> 0:44:01.960 been the better play call for this team, but we 0:44:02.080 --> 0:44:05.440 just hadn't seen it. And I understand whether that energy 0:44:05.560 --> 0:44:08.960 is coming from from my fan base. I think that 0:44:09.480 --> 0:44:12.279 Kelly Moore was just I think this was his first test. 0:44:12.840 --> 0:44:14.520 I think this past week was his first test, and 0:44:14.560 --> 0:44:16.640 I think he failed his first test. I think he's 0:44:16.680 --> 0:44:18.960 always had a lot of weapons at his disposer. I 0:44:19.000 --> 0:44:20.680 think he's always had a great office, a line, he's at, 0:44:20.719 --> 0:44:22.759 a great quarterback, and this is the first time he's 0:44:22.760 --> 0:44:25.160 really facing any real adversity as off as a coordinator. 0:44:25.200 --> 0:44:26.880 And I don't think that he stepped up to the 0:44:26.920 --> 0:44:29.600 plate in that regard. I think that he's a competitor 0:44:29.600 --> 0:44:31.960 at heart. So I'm pretty sure as any competitor would, 0:44:32.000 --> 0:44:33.839 I think they'll come back and try to bounce back. 0:44:34.280 --> 0:44:35.919 It's just unfortunate that he has to try to bounce 0:44:36.000 --> 0:44:39.960 back against the Pittsburgh Steelers team. Yeah. Well, even whenever 0:44:40.040 --> 0:44:42.680 you talk about being his first test, I mean even 0:44:42.680 --> 0:44:45.439 the week prior against Washington, you wouldn't call that a test. 0:44:45.440 --> 0:44:47.120 I don't. I don't call that a test because I mean, 0:44:47.120 --> 0:44:49.560 you bring in an all pro quarterback, I mean against 0:44:49.600 --> 0:44:52.120 that defensive line. Though I guess that defensive line. It 0:44:52.239 --> 0:44:54.360 is a test in that regard, But nothing changes in 0:44:54.440 --> 0:44:56.640 terms of your play calling, right, your your quarterback, your 0:44:56.680 --> 0:44:59.040 capability of your quarterback to be able to handle the 0:44:59.080 --> 0:45:02.319 situations ain't the same. Um, I mean obviously now there's 0:45:02.360 --> 0:45:04.440 a there's a there was a drop off in production 0:45:05.000 --> 0:45:07.080 because because he's not Dak of course, and I don't know, 0:45:07.080 --> 0:45:10.080 I've eating that up on Twitter, but um, you know, 0:45:10.080 --> 0:45:12.640 Annie Dalton can handle everything that you throw him in 0:45:12.800 --> 0:45:15.120 terms of the playbook. So there's no question mark there. 0:45:15.160 --> 0:45:17.040 And the question mark, you know, comes in when you 0:45:17.200 --> 0:45:18.960 are dealing with a quarterback who you have to dumb 0:45:19.000 --> 0:45:20.440 the playbook down for it, right, who you have to 0:45:20.440 --> 0:45:23.000 simplify things for how you have to scheme things up 0:45:23.000 --> 0:45:25.120 so that he understands it and he's and that he 0:45:25.160 --> 0:45:27.399 can read the defenses and you know, it doesn't really 0:45:27.400 --> 0:45:29.160 matter what the defense is. This play is gonna work 0:45:29.200 --> 0:45:31.160 no matter what or whatever you see because you don't 0:45:31.200 --> 0:45:33.600 have the knowledge or a confidence to check out of 0:45:33.600 --> 0:45:35.719 a play, right. So that's where the test was. And 0:45:35.719 --> 0:45:40.040 I think he felt that's a that's a big one, man, 0:45:40.120 --> 0:45:43.279 because he was trying to get a rookie ready to 0:45:43.360 --> 0:45:46.200 play the Philadelphia defense. And look, I know we're gonna 0:45:46.200 --> 0:45:48.000 be harsh on him, and I was harsh just with 0:45:48.040 --> 0:45:49.840 the reverse in the red zone. I thought that was 0:45:49.880 --> 0:45:53.919 a bad place to try that. But you know, I mean, look, 0:45:53.920 --> 0:45:55.399 we just got to pull it back a little bit 0:45:55.440 --> 0:45:58.520 because you know, the NUCI just was overwhelmed with what 0:45:58.560 --> 0:46:02.720 he saw last week. Period. Yeah, I think the staff 0:46:02.719 --> 0:46:06.560 from ESPN was he was like, oh, for nine in 0:46:06.719 --> 0:46:10.160 passes or over eleven something like that, passes ten yards 0:46:10.239 --> 0:46:13.040 or more of they just you know, the pocket awareness 0:46:13.239 --> 0:46:16.920 and just reading the defenses. It was. I think that 0:46:17.000 --> 0:46:19.240 was just a real challenge just trying to be functional 0:46:19.320 --> 0:46:22.600 back there. So I'm a little more hesitant to put 0:46:22.600 --> 0:46:25.120 it put it on the play calling at this point. 0:46:25.320 --> 0:46:27.239 I think I didn't even really have a problem with 0:46:27.239 --> 0:46:30.080 some of the trick stuff. I think I think situation, 0:46:30.080 --> 0:46:32.520 Like I said, situationally though, like that one drop, I 0:46:32.560 --> 0:46:34.880 mean the one with the ten yard loss with Cedric Wilson, 0:46:35.680 --> 0:46:37.560 don't dial that one up. At that point, you're running 0:46:37.600 --> 0:46:40.080 the football, you're having success, you're taking the pressure off 0:46:40.120 --> 0:46:45.040 your quarterback. You know, you just gotta watch being tricky 0:46:45.080 --> 0:46:47.680 in that in that situation. Just stick with what's working. 0:46:48.520 --> 0:46:50.640 And that's kind of what we had talked about previously, 0:46:50.760 --> 0:46:54.560 was we expected the trick plays. We expected something different, 0:46:54.640 --> 0:46:57.840 A new wrinkle, is what Mike McCarthy said it as yesterday. 0:46:58.200 --> 0:47:00.480 He wanted the new wrinkle in his fence, and they 0:47:00.560 --> 0:47:03.680 brought that it was the situational of that one third 0:47:03.760 --> 0:47:06.880 down or excuse me, third quarter play that ended up 0:47:06.920 --> 0:47:09.960 being a loss of ten on it, and just it 0:47:10.000 --> 0:47:12.680 was odd. It was it was odd placement for that one. 0:47:12.719 --> 0:47:15.320 And I think that's where maybe the learning comes involved, 0:47:15.320 --> 0:47:17.960 and maybe Mike has more say than what we're what 0:47:18.080 --> 0:47:20.600 we're leading on to believe. I mean, he's still got 0:47:20.640 --> 0:47:22.400 a play sheet in his hand, he's still got the 0:47:22.760 --> 0:47:26.520 headset on. He may give that that extra little bit 0:47:26.520 --> 0:47:29.640 of guidance for Kellen Moore, a young padawan, more on 0:47:29.680 --> 0:47:32.359 the sideline of making sure that he knows what's going 0:47:32.440 --> 0:47:35.839 on and knows that, hey, we've got this in the 0:47:35.880 --> 0:47:38.120 bag at some point whenever he comes to running the ball, 0:47:38.200 --> 0:47:40.840 let's not necessarily do this right here. 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