1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. Happy Monday, everybody, 2 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight Fire for February twenties. Second 3 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: Hope everybody had a splendid weekend. Mine was rather uneventful. 4 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: Did watch a little bit of sports on Sunday Saturday, 5 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: hanging with the fam as we returned from our little 6 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: ski trip. Now, I don't know if you guys could tell, 7 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: but I had a different audio vibe last week we 8 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: were out of town skiing. But of course I love working, 9 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: so I brought the podcast equipment, wrote a couple of 10 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 1: pieces for Fox Sports on gambling. Um, so a working 11 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: vacation if you will. But um, you know, Rob G 12 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 1: is a great producer because he will find some stuff 13 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: that is just so damn thought provoking. And you know, 14 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: Sunday afternoon, I'm sitting around getting ready to do Undisputed 15 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: all week on Monday morning, and I'm, you know, want 16 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: to sense some topic ideas to the producers of the show. 17 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:07,839 Speaker 1: And Rob G sends this this crazy link that said 18 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: there was a study done on NBA players who received 19 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: the most negative and the most positive reactions on Twitter. Now, 20 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 1: it only sampled about three thousand tweets a small window 21 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 1: um from October to January. And first of all, I 22 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: don't know why this study was done. I don't know 23 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: why they picked this small window after the bubble in 24 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: the middle of football season, but such is life. And 25 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: the results were kind of shocking because the big takeaway 26 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: is that the most polarizing player in the NBA is 27 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: not Lebron James. The most polarizing player is not Kevin Durant. 28 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: The most polarizing player in the NBA is Steph Curry. Yes, 29 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,919 Speaker 1: the most they're calling it the most trolled NBA player. 30 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: Percent of his tweets were negative, the highest of any 31 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: player in the league. Now, this is a small sample size. 32 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook, not that shocking, was the second most negative tweets. 33 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: Joel Embiid was third. Ato. I know, I know you're surprised. 34 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: Where's Lebron. Lebron's the most hated. That's not the reality 35 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: that That's the funny thing. Everybody thinks Lebron is the 36 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: most hated because small vocal minority is always chirping at Lebron. 37 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: That's incorrect. He was after and beat four k d fifth, 38 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving sixth, and you know, it's weird that current 39 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: Curry had so many haters but also the second most 40 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: positive number of tweets, and and it really comes back 41 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 1: to a story. I've talked about this for a couple 42 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: of years on my Fox Sports radio show. I've brought 43 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: it up on this podcast with Broussard. I think a 44 00:02:56,240 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: couple other guys, but folks, for whatever reason, Steph Curry, 45 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:03,239 Speaker 1: people just don't like him. I'm not even just talking 46 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,959 Speaker 1: about fans. I'm talking about other players in the league. 47 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: There is a rampant jealousy of Steph Curry because he 48 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: quote unquote jump the line. Okay, there is this line 49 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: that you're supposed to be and just like at your job, 50 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 1: right you started as an entry level staffer, then you 51 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: kick up to the next level, and then next level, 52 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: and then you're the VP blah blah blah in newspapers, 53 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: which I got the hell out of early when I 54 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: saw this garbage line. Um, this pecking order you have 55 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: to go through. You have to start as a preps 56 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: writer covering high schools, and then after a few years, 57 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: you get to the college and then you graduate to 58 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: the pro beat. It's like, I don't want to wait 59 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: around for that I want to jump the line. So 60 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: what did I do? I went out and started a website. Um, 61 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: I left high school reporting after two or three years. 62 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: I kind of took a divergent path, and I've alreadys 63 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: recommended this to everybody. You know, Um, what's the quote. 64 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: The elevator to success is out of order. You know, 65 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 1: you gotta find your own path. And I went and 66 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: did some newspapers. I left newspapers from magazines and I 67 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: would do like celebrity stuff, and then I built a 68 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: website on the side, and next thing, you know, boom, 69 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: I went. I didn't have to write about college or 70 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: write about pro sports. I just started talking about it 71 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 1: on TV and radio. So I kind of jumped the line. So, yeah, 72 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 1: there are people who do not like me in the 73 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: industry because I didn't quote unquote pay my dues. Well, 74 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 1: Steph Curry didn't pay his dues, right. He came to 75 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: Golden State and he was okay, had some ankle injuries, 76 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: and then seemingly overnight, the Warriors were the best team 77 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: in the West, Like it happened fast. And then the 78 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 1: year after that they win seventy three games, and then 79 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: they get Kevin Durant and it's like, WHOA Curry. I mean, 80 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: Steph Curry hit the NBA like a comment. Essentially, that's 81 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: what happened, all of a sudden, in like a quick 82 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: two or three year span, he became the most popular 83 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 1: player in the league in terms of jersey sales. You 84 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: go to any NBA game around in that window and 85 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: the majority you have. The Lower Bowl had a bunch 86 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: of kids in the suburbs wearing Steph curry jersey's. He 87 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: was cool. He made the NBA cool. A six ft three, 88 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: skinny kid who went to Davidson did not have a 89 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: high major offer at the college level, and um, you 90 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 1: know the guy Seth Greenberg at ESPN. He's an analyst. 91 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: He was coaching at Virginia Tech at the time, and 92 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: Steph Curry's dad, Del Curry, went to Virginia Tech. Seth 93 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: Greenberg hates when I bring this up. We used to 94 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: be friendly and now he just text me angry stuff 95 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: anytime I reference this. Um, Steph Curry could not get 96 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 1: an offer from Seth Greenberg coming out of high school. 97 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: Greenberg said, hey, man, we can make you a preferred 98 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: walk on. You know, like you're not gonna get a 99 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 1: Scollie and we'll give you a chance to make the team. 100 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 1: And he was like, no, I'm gonna go to Davidson. 101 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: And of course Steph Curry dominates at the college level. UM. 102 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 1: And Seth greenbergs in the booth now, um, But people 103 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: don't like Curry. I'm talking like Russell Westbrook does not 104 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: like Kim Chris Paul does not like him. And this 105 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: is not just me saying this. There was an avalanche 106 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: of evidence. I'm not going through it, all of pro 107 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: players and even Lebron. If you look back at the 108 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: finals in he had a moment with Curry, and when 109 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: the first year they got Durant, Lebron and Curry also 110 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: at a moment in the finals, like there is dislike there. 111 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: I mean, if you remember, really remember it in the 112 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: mid two thousand tens, I think that's how you say 113 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: that decade. Chris Paul and Lob City had next. They 114 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 1: were supposed to take the baton from Kobe in the West. Remember, 115 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 1: lob City was everything Blake Griffin, Chris Paul. The league 116 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: had blocked Chris Paul from going to the Lakers. He 117 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 1: winds up with the Clippers. Um. DeAndre Jordan is sending 118 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: Brandon Knight into oblivion with that incredible dunk, and Lob 119 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: City was everything, and they kept getting hurt in the postseason, 120 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: and Steph Curry and the Warriors just, you know, flip 121 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: the switch. Realized it was a math equation. Threes are 122 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 1: worth more than two's, and they became the biggest deal 123 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 1: in the NBA, and Curry went back to back m 124 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: v P Awards was unanimous m v P. So there 125 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: are a lot of people out there, and I don't 126 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: want to make this too racial, but listen, there is 127 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: a racial component to it. Um. We're talking about a 128 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: light skinned guy who is six ft three plays below 129 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: the rim. And the NBA is perceived as a city game. 130 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: That's where the best basketball players came out of New 131 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: York City and tough streets of Chicago and Oakland and 132 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: all these great inner cities producing amazing basketball players for 133 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: the longest time. And Curry and the jump shooters started 134 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: to make it what Phil Jackson derisively referred to as 135 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: a suburban league. And I'll never forget I heard the 136 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: Jackson quote. He was with the Bulls, I'm fairly certain, 137 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: and or maybe it was the Lakers. Bulls are Lakers. 138 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: Phillip Jackson was coaching and somebody brought up a jump 139 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: shooting team or player, and I'll never forget I saw 140 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: the interview, but I googled around I couldn't find it. 141 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: Phil Jackson said he's got a nice suburban game, or 142 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: they have a nice suburban game, and it was just 143 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: one of these like, oh, they're soft, they shoot jumpers, 144 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: they do their fundamental as well, but at the end 145 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: of the day, when the chips are down, the suburban 146 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: kid is not going to beat the city kid. It's 147 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: just not gonna happen. They're too soft, They're not mentally 148 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: tough enough. The kids in the cities have overcome a 149 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: lot to get here and they're not gonna lose to 150 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: the kids from the suburbs. And there is this perception, 151 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: you know how golf is a country club sport and 152 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: tennis is like a country club sport. NBA is supposed 153 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 1: to be an inner city sport. And the Warriors with 154 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: Clay Thompson now was uh dad was a former Laker, 155 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 1: Michael Thompson. Curry's dad was a former NBA player. Um, 156 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 1: and they're jump shooters, you know, they're not attacking the 157 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: glass and getting to the rim and dunk it on 158 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: you and all that stuff, and me, muggan, they're not 159 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: doing that. Um, And there is pushback against that. I 160 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: personally disagree with all of it. But I'm talking. You're 161 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: talking about a guy who was born in the city, uh, 162 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: New York, but grew up in the suburbs. And um, 163 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: it's funny because you know, I started playing pick up 164 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: out here in l A. I had played pickup basketball 165 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: in some leagues in Pennsylvania, but after college I was 166 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: playing in the New York City League and you know, 167 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 1: there's like twenty seven leagues. I think I've talked about 168 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: this on the podcast. And you know, it was me 169 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 1: and a bunch of guys. You know, we're okay players, 170 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: and we played like middle tier, like it was like 171 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: level thirteen, fourteen somewhere around there. And then we got 172 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 1: I think a good player or two, and we like 173 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: really good player, and we upgraded to like level seven 174 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: or eight, okay, And this was you know, a bunch 175 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 1: of D three players and stuff, and you better bring 176 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: it in that level and you better play physical. And 177 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: I could play the physical brand. I obviously didn't have 178 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: to skill level, but I wasn't gonna back down from anybody. Um, 179 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: And I brought that same level to Pennsylvania or a 180 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: bunch of suburban guys. And now these are not like 181 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: soft suburban guys. They're a little tougher suburban guys. And 182 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: I would play physical basketball and they would call this stuff. 183 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, why are you calling this? These weak fouses? 184 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: I got too physical? Come on, and I'm like, I 185 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 1: just didn't get it. So I came out here to 186 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: l A and again, l A, you know a lot 187 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,959 Speaker 1: of suburban kids playing in the gym. However, you find 188 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: some games that it's a little more physical, and you know, 189 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: I'm into the physical brand of basketball, preferably on defense. 190 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: I'm not driving into lane getting clobered. Okay, that's just 191 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: not fun for me. Um. But I understand why people 192 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: pushed back against Curry. I just didn't really like it. 193 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: I didn't think it was fair. And I can this 194 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: thing that Rob g found was just incredible, and I'm 195 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: all over the place with this topic, but it's just 196 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: to me, it feels a little disrespectful, like what does 197 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: he have to do to get that credibility? Like Reggie 198 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: Miller wasn't not to be you know, harsh to Reggie. 199 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: He wasn't half the player Steph Currey is. Reggie Miller 200 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: couldn't create his own his own offense. He was simply 201 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: a catch and shoot guy. He was a great catch 202 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: and shoot guy. He was a clutch player. But he 203 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: talked trash to Spike Lee and Madison Square Garden multiple times. 204 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:15,439 Speaker 1: And Reggie Miller's I think he threw a punch of 205 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: Jordan and got in some beef, so he wasn't perceived 206 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: as a suburban player. I don't I don't know, like 207 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: I don't know what the rules are here on this. 208 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: It feels kind of willy nilly, like, oh, we like 209 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: that guy or we don't like that guy. It feels 210 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: like BS to me. I don't know. I'm personally a 211 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: little bit surprised that Steph Curry is the most trilled 212 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: player according to this um you know this survey that 213 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: was taken within the last four months. Now. Now, Rob 214 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: g who found it, is not a huge Curry guy. 215 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, he really doesn't like Steph Curry. 216 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: You could just admit it, Rob, It's fine, you don't 217 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: like Steph Curry. Were you surprised by this? Survey. Not 218 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: at all, not not even a little bit. And it's 219 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: not like I don't like Steph Curry. I just think that, Yeah, 220 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: the Steph Curry fall is going to be glorious and 221 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to it. Wait a wait, time, out 222 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 1: time and what do you need this Steph Curry fall 223 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: in this offseason? You predicted? You know, this season is 224 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,839 Speaker 1: going to be an indictment of step Canny. Carry them, dude, 225 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: He's having a ridiculous season's top five in the m 226 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: v P and he's carrying them to what a seventh seed? 227 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: I'm supposed to be impressed by that. That's him. He's 228 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: playing right, yeah, exactly. Russell Westbrook average of trouble double 229 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: and they got like the sixth seed and got bounced. 230 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 1: And look what you said about Russell Westbrook and Steph 231 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 1: Curry's not even averaging a triple double. He's about to 232 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: go to the seventh seed again. I'm my bad. Russell 233 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: Westbrook had Victor Oladipo on that team that he carried, 234 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: and Steph Curry is playing with who a bunch of 235 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: guys from the G League, Michael Toscato Anderson. Like I 236 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 1: thought that was an appetizer at Applebee's. I don't know half. 237 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 1: I don't know half the guys on this roster. Kelly 238 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: might be their second best player. Kelly Ubray has never 239 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: been an All Star. Okay, they have Draymond Green, but 240 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 1: come on, I don't know Rob. I just let me 241 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 1: just say this. Continue to bash Curry, go ahead. I'm 242 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 1: in a bashi. But the reason why I believe that 243 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: I wasn't surprised by the study results is because of 244 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: guys like you, Guys like Chris Russar, who I work 245 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:13,199 Speaker 1: with five days a week. You guys have been so 246 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: quick to anoint Steph Curry as if not the best thing. 247 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 1: You have him as the best, and he could. Chris 248 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: has him as the second best point guard in NBA. Okay, 249 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 1: you both have them second best, and you're quick to 250 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:28,559 Speaker 1: point out two time m v P. Look what he's 251 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: been to the finals. He's he's you know, he's three 252 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 1: time champion. And that's true. But I feel like every 253 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: time guys like you bring up Steph Curry and discussed 254 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: Steph Curry, guys with the big voices on TV and radio, 255 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: there's a lack of context that gets applied to it 256 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: and This is what I mean Number one. When he 257 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: won his first championship. You recall that nobody talks about 258 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: this anymore. Every single point guard he was supposed to 259 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 1: go against in the playoffs was hurt. Every single starting 260 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,719 Speaker 1: point guard was hurt. So by the time he got 261 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: to the finals, it was supposed to be Kyrie and Stephan. 262 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: Kyrie gets hurt of think in game one, so we 263 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: never even got to see that. So it was Lebron, 264 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: Matthew Delavadova and a bunch of guys against the Warriors. 265 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: So you know, but he wanted cruise name. Whatever they lose, 266 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: they blow the seventy three win season, which for most 267 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: people should be I'm not saying Lebron James, Dallas Mavericks slander, 268 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: but it should be really high up there for longer 269 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: than what it was. Okay, so you okay, Okay, he 270 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: blew the three one le Bron James, Okay, it sounds 271 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: like they blew it. To Dirk Navitski, you don't get 272 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: to call yourself the best team of all time and 273 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: then blow a three one lead. So that's number two, 274 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: Number three. As soon as Kevin Durant got there, he 275 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: was their best player. And it wasn't close. Now you 276 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: can argue, and I would argue, actually in his Curry's favor, 277 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: he was more im for than than Katie because of 278 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: what he did for their team specifically. But as soon 279 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: as Kevin Durant put on a Golden State Warriors uniform, 280 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: there was no question who was the best player. Yeah, 281 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: I wouldn't, I don't. So then why is it, with 282 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: those three points in mind, why is it that he 283 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: is anointed immediately ahead of guys like Isaiah Thomas or 284 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: or John Stockton or whoever, whatever, whoever your favorite point 285 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: guard is. Why is he automatically elevated that quickly when 286 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: if you look at things with a microscope, you can 287 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: poke holes in a lot of it. When when he 288 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: goes against Lebron James in the finals, who's the guy 289 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: who gets hunted on defense almost every single play? It's 290 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: Steph Curry. This season, he finally doesn't have a super 291 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: team for the first time in four years. Okay, three 292 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: years if you want to, We'll say three years super team. 293 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: When all the Warriors super team with with Kevin Durant, 294 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: even without duran were they a super team? No, they 295 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: were a very good team. Okay, so you take away 296 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: as soon as he doesn't have another All Star next 297 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: to him, as soon as he has to deal with 298 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: what Dame Lillard gets every season. Russell Westbrook had to 299 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: deal with for four or five seasons. Um, whoever else, 300 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: I don't whoever else you want to name, you know, 301 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: pick your guy. But those are the two that comes 302 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: out to be first. Oh they're a seven seed. Oh 303 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: maybe Steph Curry isn't the greatest point guard of all time. 304 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: Oh you know, maybe this this unanimous m v P 305 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: in the league that featured Lebron James, Shaquille O'Neal, Michael 306 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: Jordan's will Chamber, and that some of the most dominant 307 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: individual seasons ever and none of them got unanimous m 308 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: v P, but Steph Curry did. That's why it's easy 309 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: for people not to like him. All right, there's a 310 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: lot here. I didn't know that we would be debating 311 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: the merits of Steph Curry, but here we are. And 312 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: I just just for kicks. I looked up playoff points 313 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 1: per game, Michael Jordan's first, averaging thirty three a game, 314 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: Iverson Shocking Lee second, nine, Kevin Durant fourth, Lebron fifth, 315 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: Oh look, there's Steph Curry, prime time clutch playoff performer, 316 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 1: twenty six points per game. I had of a lajah 317 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: one I had of your favorite player of all time, 318 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant, ahead of Dirk Dvinsky, Russell Westbrook, Dame every 319 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: ahead of Karl Malone, who's in the ploffs like every year, 320 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 1: ahead of Jabbar, ahead of Shock. What Curry has done 321 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: regular season playoffs is to me absurd, And I really 322 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: do bacon expectations to where players are. Okay, we knew 323 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan was gonna be great. We knew Lebron was 324 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 1: gonna be great. We knew Shack was gonna be great. 325 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: Did anybody think Steph Curry out of Davidson, drafted after 326 00:17:54,840 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: two point guards named Ricky Rubio and Johnny Flynn? Did 327 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:04,199 Speaker 1: anybody think Steph Curry would win all these would win 328 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 1: two m vps, a bunch of titles, First Team All NBA, 329 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: blah blah bla did And no, He's come out of nowhere, 330 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: And I love this. I looked up the MVP voting 331 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 1: when Curry was unanimous. Okay, he got every single first 332 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: place vote. He he led the NBA in wind shares 333 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:27,360 Speaker 1: and it wasn't close. Seventeen point nine. Nobody else even 334 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: had fifteen. Okay, he shot from the field forty five 335 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: from three from the line fifty ninety. That's obscene, Okay. 336 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard finished second in the voting. He was with 337 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: the Spurs. Lebron was third. Westbrook and okay, so Westbrook 338 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 1: and Durant kind of split. Four five. Chris Paul, who 339 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: everybody loves, Chris Paul the point God, I'm so over 340 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: Chris Paul. Honestly, I'm just so sick of this guy. 341 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:00,880 Speaker 1: Is he a good player? Yeah? What happens every year 342 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. He's a bust every year in the playoffs, 343 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: rob g. Chris Paul somehow finds a way to vomit 344 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: over himself get injured while celebrating in Steph Curry's face. 345 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 1: That's what he does. I mean, at some point, we 346 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 1: know you're great. He's a really, really good point guard, 347 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 1: but can you win a damn clutch game in the postseason? 348 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: And I gotta ask John Stockton, like you mentioned him 349 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: one of the greatest point guards ever? Yes, no doubt, 350 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 1: was he ever the best player on his team? I 351 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: don't even know that. How many first place m VP 352 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: votes did John Stockton have while playing in the league 353 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: for like seventeen years. I would guess it was over 354 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 1: under one and a half first place votes. Curry got 355 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 1: all of them one year. And like I like Isaiah Thomas. 356 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: He's a real tough gauge because we never saw him 357 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: without a great team and we never saw him without 358 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: a really good coach. The Bad Boy Pistons were one 359 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: of the best teams of the nineteen eighties and early nineties. 360 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: I think they went to the finals four years in 361 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: a row. Um Or it would have been for if 362 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,199 Speaker 1: they didn't choke it away when Larry Bird stole the 363 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:06,360 Speaker 1: ball in like Game six, Piston Celtics Birds all the ball? 364 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: You know whatever that was, um, Like I said, Thoma's 365 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: really good at six ft one, amazing, tough inner city 366 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 1: Chicago kid who would take no ship from anybody. Um what. 367 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: The only guy really to defeat Michael Jordan had to 368 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: add more than loose to him, and it orked Jordan's 369 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 1: so much that Jordan's snubbed the hell out of him 370 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: going forward. But like I say, it's up there. I 371 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: maybe I'm being a little biased towards the current NBA. 372 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: But Rob, I'll close on this. In every sport, the 373 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:42,239 Speaker 1: evolution of player, the evolution of athlete skill level is 374 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: improved for whatever reason in the NBA. And I don't 375 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: know the answer to this. If I could sit down 376 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 1: with lebron Um, this is a question, I would ask 377 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: him why do we not do it in the NBA. 378 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: It's for whatever reason. The players from previous decades were better. 379 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: I say it was better than Curry. Yeah, of course, 380 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: Really are we sure about that Steph Curry? I mean, 381 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: I could make an argument that Damian Lillard is starting 382 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 1: to build a case to be one of the top 383 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 1: ten point guards in NBA history, and I'm sure the 384 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: audience will say he's not even a point guard. Well, 385 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 1: I mean he's not a point guard because of the 386 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: traditional rules. Like the NBA has evolved. Okay, middle relief 387 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: matters immensely now in Major League Baseball. Starters don't go seven, eight, 388 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 1: nine innings in the NBA. You want a ball handler, 389 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: you want to wing, and you want to big Like 390 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: I just, I really think I can't say Curry's underrated. 391 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 1: But to me this, I don't know what kind of 392 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: person sends angry tweets to Steph Curry like he is 393 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: every time I go with my son. You know, we 394 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 1: I coach him and I coach my daughter. And the 395 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: first practice I always ask every player, who's your favorite player? 396 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 1: A lot of Kobe here in l A. But Steph 397 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,679 Speaker 1: Curry is number two almost every single team I've coached. 398 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 1: The kids love him, And I just robbed you. I 399 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 1: just don't get the hate. We need to spread more 400 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 1: love and positivity out there, unless, of course we're talking 401 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: about Chris Paula Russell Westbrook. All right, rob G, I'll 402 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 1: let you have the file, lets you have the final word. Um, 403 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: are you surprised that Lebron was not first? Yes? Actually, 404 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 1: and it has everything to do with two things, the 405 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 1: Jordan Lebron debate and Lebron's social and political commentary. I 406 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: feel like people latch onto those two things add nauseum 407 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 1: with Lebron James so much so that it clouds them 408 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: from accepting how good of a basketball player that he is. 409 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: And he is at worst the second best player in 410 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: NBA history. But again, because he's very outspoken and because 411 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 1: he had the audacity to call himself the chosen one. 412 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: And then you know, I'm not going to he did 413 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: this run himself. When he did say in an interview 414 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: that made me the best player of all time and 415 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: he put his name on it. That my that I 416 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: kind of count see now why Jordan guys were not 417 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 1: like that. But no, I mean I honestly expected it 418 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: was gonna be Lebron in the landslide. So to see 419 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 1: that it wasn't him, that was shocking. Alright. The only 420 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: other huge story I thought there was in sports over 421 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: the weekend, and this was again, we have a young 422 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 1: audience here on the podcast, but we do have a 423 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: segment obviously that listen to you know, the older crowd 424 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 1: like my dad who listens, and like my mom who 425 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: posted on social media so her friends gonna listen. Um, yes, 426 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 1: that's a real thing. By the way, Um, there was 427 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 1: a video that circulated Sunday morning about Cam Newton and 428 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: I don't have a lot of context, rob g, so 429 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: maybe you can fill in some of the blanks. So 430 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 1: this video did I believe four and a half million 431 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: views in less than twelve hours. Okay, it went up 432 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: early Sunday morning and it was it's a crazy video. 433 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: So Cam Newton is it's some football camp and he's 434 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 1: walking the sidelines. I couldn't tell if it was a 435 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: camp of practice or what. And there's you know, a 436 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: bunch of middle school players behind him, and this one kid, 437 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 1: this jerk, this little twerp starts yelling to Cam Newton, 438 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: you're a free agent. You're a free agent, like derisively, 439 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,400 Speaker 1: like he's mocking Cam Newton. Some you know snot nos 440 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: twelve year old, maybe he was fourteen. Who knows. All 441 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: he would say is you're a free You're only a 442 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 1: free agent. You're like nobody wants your free That's all 443 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: he would say. And Cam Newton, you know, to his credit, 444 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: didn't take a swing at the little kid, obviously because 445 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: Cam Newton is worth a lot of money. But he 446 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 1: looked pretty pissed as as of course, naturally, who would 447 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: not be. And I there were just so many things 448 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: here on this video you felt it was a little 449 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 1: uncomfortable to watch. And I will be the first to 450 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: say I have not been on the Cam Newton band. 451 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: Why um, I thought he was a t He's a 452 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 1: tremendous football player, a great talent. You want an m 453 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: VP award, he want a national title at Auburn. This 454 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 1: guy's I mean his I don't need to rattle off 455 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 1: his credentials. Cam Newton was a great NFL quarterback. He's 456 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: near the end of his career now. Um he's had 457 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: a couple of soldiers shoulder surgeries that have taken its toll. 458 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: And just kind of watching him react, and you know, 459 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: there were some other kids laughing. It was just uncomfortable 460 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: because Rob, I know you've been there, Like Cam ended 461 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 1: up saying where's this guy's dad? Where's your father? And 462 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: I will tell you this guys. Um, I was the 463 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: kid who when I screwed up badly, my parents would 464 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 1: take me by the ear and I would have to 465 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 1: go apologize. I had parents like that, and it makes 466 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: you a better person. You stop being a dick when, uh, 467 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: you know your parents are gonna get on your case. 468 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: So I'll just quickly mentioned two of them. Um, one 469 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: time I was kind of uh, unless you all right, 470 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: let me I was. I was best buddies with the 471 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: guy mostly through elementary school, and then you know, we 472 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: get to middle school and we kind of got a 473 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: part and I got new friends and he got new friends. 474 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,439 Speaker 1: And then for whatever reason, we were futing and he 475 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 1: lived near me. So one night I had to sleep 476 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 1: over some buddy's and we snuck out in t P 477 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 1: and egged the guy's house and it was I guess, 478 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: you know, it's not clear. I guess somebody in our 479 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: group was you know, talking about it, and it was 480 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 1: pretty clear it was us and my old buddies mom 481 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 1: the guys who got tped an egg. I'm she called 482 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 1: my mom. I was like, you know, blah blah blah 483 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: blah blah, and my mom was pissed and I had 484 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 1: to go to the front door and apologize and all 485 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: this stuff. I think I might have had to write 486 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 1: a letter or something, you know, a handwritten thing, and 487 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 1: that was my lesson. I you know, like, come on, 488 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 1: you can't do that stuff. And there was a moment 489 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 1: in high school and this one really hurt me. Um, 490 00:26:58,400 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: I believe it or not. It was a bit of 491 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: a troublemaker in high school a little bit. And I 492 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 1: had this one teacher who you could just steamroll, you 493 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,360 Speaker 1: could just goof off or whatever. She just never could 494 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: quiet the class. And um, I had to tell my 495 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: kids this because you know, I need to get them 496 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: in line, and you know, the teacher would be like Jason, 497 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 1: time to focus. I'm like, okay, yeah, sir, because I could, 498 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: I could easily get by, you know, I was I 499 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 1: was as good. I was a good student, so I 500 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: knew what I was doing. But I would just talk 501 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 1: and goof around with my friends. And one day I 502 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: walk into class and people the class starts to fill up. 503 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 1: It was one of those trailer classes where it was 504 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:41,719 Speaker 1: like outside the school. And as the class fills up, 505 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: my mom walks in the classroom and you know, of 506 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: course my friends like, Jason, your mom's in the class. 507 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,199 Speaker 1: I was like, oh gosh, this is mortifying. And my 508 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 1: mom sat in the back of the classroom. The teacher 509 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 1: could not get through to me, so she called my mom, 510 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: who was like on the p t A, you know, 511 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: she was involved, and said, you know how Jason C's 512 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: not really focused. Could you maybe come in and just 513 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: watch or say something to him? And I was humiliated, mortified. 514 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: I never screwed up again after that. I got in line. Um. 515 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: It was humiliating, and like, if I'm the father of 516 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,719 Speaker 1: this kid who's getting on Cam Newton's case and this 517 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: video and I see that's my kid, I'm grabbing him. 518 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 1: And if we can't find people connected to Cam Newton. 519 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: I'm making this kid produce a video apologizing profusely to 520 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: Cam Newton because this is not how you behave okay 521 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: as a as a young kid, you're a punk. You're 522 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: trying to go viral. Kind of have your moment. Think 523 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 1: about this for a second. A college football national champion, 524 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: who's the number one overall pick, who makes millions of dollars, 525 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: who wins an m v P award, who goes to 526 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl, is at your football camp. You can 527 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: pick his brain, be a sponge around him, learn about 528 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: what it takes to be a professional. Learn from Cam's mistakes, 529 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: because he'll tell you about his mistakes at Florida. Okay, 530 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: he got kicked out of the school basically, and how 531 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: Cam got on the right track and got to be 532 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: at the top of his profession. You can learn that 533 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 1: stuff as a teenager. If Cam Newton's at your football camp, 534 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: you sit around him. You don't really speak, You just 535 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: listen and maybe ask some good, smart questions. That's your opportunity. 536 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: You're not gonna be around a lot of former NFL 537 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: m v P s. You think Pat Mahomes is just 538 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: gonna wander into this kid's life. You know, Aaron Rodgers, 539 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: Tom Brady, this is your chance around Cam Newton and 540 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: this is how you behave. This is the decision you make. 541 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna ras him. I'm gonna talk trash to Cam Newton. 542 00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: That's what I'm gonna do. I'm just stunned. It's sad. Uh. 543 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: You know, you don't want to make a sweeping statement. Um, 544 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: but this is an embarrassment. This kid should be embarrassed 545 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,719 Speaker 1: his parents. UM. I don't want to say get out 546 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: the belt, but listen, man, this kid needs to be 547 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: taught a lesson by his parents. Like, you cannot act 548 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 1: like this. This is like the worst thing you could 549 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: do the I mean, of all the choices you make, 550 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: that's the one I don't know, Rob, it made me 551 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 1: viscerally upset watching this video on Sunday. Yeah, no, I 552 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: would agree with you. And UM, kudos to Cam. I 553 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 1: mean I know that video that you're talking about, the 554 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: one that went viral, but there was another video that 555 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: came out a couple of hours later where Cam went 556 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 1: up to that kid privately and uh, well, I mean 557 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: there are other kids around it, but Cam made a 558 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 1: point to go when that kid was by was away 559 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: from the action. He had a couple of friends around 560 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,239 Speaker 1: him and he just talked to him and he kind of, 561 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 1: I want to say, said him straight. But it was 562 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: just like you mentioned, Cam is a guy who's if 563 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 1: you're gonna give me the opportunity to talk to you, 564 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: he's gonna be the bigger man. So so kudos to him. 565 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: But as part of the big her you know story 566 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 1: that you're talking about. I mean, I coached high school 567 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 1: football at IT when I was in college, you know, 568 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: I graduated from my school, was in school, I was 569 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: only working part time, and my old coach and hey, 570 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 1: we need help coaching the freshman kids. You know, was 571 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 1: you willing to help. It's a couple of hours a week. Sure. 572 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: And when I tell you, even back then, kids were assholes, 573 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: and that was you know, the internet was, you know, 574 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: not what it is now with social media. But there 575 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: was a kid who thought it was funny when he 576 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: was doing some conditioning drill. He ran next to me 577 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 1: and lifted his leg and farted just because he thought 578 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: that was like a funny thing to do. And thankfully 579 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,479 Speaker 1: I knew his dad a little bit, and his dad's like, hey, 580 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 1: if he does anything like that, again, you have my 581 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: uh permission to do whatever you want to him. I 582 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: wasn't gonna hit him or anything like that, even though 583 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: we're the same height, but I could have and so well, 584 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: ultimately it ended up doing like a bunch of cardio 585 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: or the kid almost act. But whatever um kids now 586 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: of days, especially you know, and and and it happens 587 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: in sports too, you know, the a a utification of 588 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: athletes or the travel ball baseball or what. I don't 589 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: know what the level is for football, but the same 590 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 1: kind of thing where these kids feel so entitled, they 591 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 1: feel like they're owed something. They feel like if you're 592 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: in the n b A or if you're in the 593 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 1: NFL and you're not Odell Beckham Jr. You're not Tom Brady, 594 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 1: you're not Patrick Mahomes, then you suck because you're not 595 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 1: winning my fantasy team for me. And it's unfortunate that 596 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: Cam Newton who took time out of his schedule. I'm 597 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 1: sure he'd rather be doing other things than going to 598 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: some football camp, you know, I'm sure he just like 599 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: the kid mentioned he's he's a free agent. He wants 600 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 1: to impress other teams as much as possible. And for 601 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 1: him to go down there, give his time and his 602 00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: energy to to spend time with the youth of America. 603 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: For a kid to respond like that was really disappointing, 604 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 1: and so kudos to cam for number one keeping his 605 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: head when that kid was talking the way he was talking, 606 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 1: but number two not giving up on him and saying, 607 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go and talk to this kid privately. If 608 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: he accepts what I'm saying, great, If he doesn't, at 609 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: least I did my part. So I wish that more 610 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 1: athletes responded the way cam Ne even responded. I mean, listen, 611 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: for those of you who have not seen it, Cam 612 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 1: doesn't come off great like his initial response, which I'm 613 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 1: sure he was shocked and a little embarrassed that people 614 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 1: are laughing at. I mean, he's a former m v 615 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 1: P and his first response is like, I'm rich. You know, 616 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 1: I'm rich, I got money, and you know he's right. 617 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 1: I don't know that you know that that's something you 618 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: want to lead with. But uh, I don't know, man, Um, 619 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 1: Yeah we do. We do end up talking about, you know, 620 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 1: youth sports and kids on this podcast probably at least 621 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 1: once a week, So I don't know, man. If I 622 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: would just recommend anybody out there, show that video to 623 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: your kid and say, never do anything like this. Like 624 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 1: this is an embarrassment. This is the worst thing you 625 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 1: could do. Learn from it. Um, yeah, I would recommend that. 626 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 1: But anyways, all right, everybody, this has been a little 627 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 1: longer than I thought it would be. We have a 628 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 1: special guest coming up tomorrow. You guys are gonna love him. 629 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:18,359 Speaker 1: Um former athlete. You know his name, everybody knows his name, 630 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 1: and I can't wait to uh unveil that one to 631 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 1: you tomorrow. We'll talk to you that