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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson show

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome to the Drive. I'm

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Speaker 1: Dale Lowie. He is Matt Williamson. And it is a

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Speaker 1: kind of a dreary Monday here before the fourth of July.

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Speaker 1: But Matt, it is the fourth of July tomorrow, and

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Speaker 1: that can only mean one thing. We're about three weeks

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Speaker 1: out from the start of training camp.

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Speaker 2: Okay about America's independence or something along those lines.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I mean that's great, but the start of training

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Speaker 1: camp so much better.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely enjoying my sort of quiet time. But I get antsy,

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Speaker 2: you know, I want something to happen. I want something

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Speaker 2: to talk about, you know. I mean, this little time

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Speaker 2: off is great. Hope everyone enjoys their fourth Have a burger,

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Speaker 2: have a dog, have an iron, do whatever. But it's

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Speaker 2: not camp, man, I mean camp right on the corner.

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Speaker 1: Don't have an iron. That's awful. Trying to promote the

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Speaker 1: local I hear you, but yuck. Hey. So the thirty

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Speaker 1: third team went through in rank the best remaining free agents. Oh, okay, available,

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Speaker 1: there's some interesting guys out there. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: necessarily for the Steelers. I know everybody's focused on DeAndre

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Speaker 1: Hopkins and Dalvin Cook because they just got released recently,

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Speaker 1: But there's more guys out there than that.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's a lot of dudes are gonna get

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Speaker 2: employed this year that are not on a team. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: A lot of the guys are on this list here,

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Speaker 1: so they're top guys available right now. Hopkins is number one,

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Speaker 1: Cook is number two. They're gonna play football for somebody

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Speaker 1: this year. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think both are declining, though I don't think

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Speaker 2: you're getting the same version of those guys as maybe

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Speaker 2: their agents want you to think.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean the agents are going to do their job,

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Speaker 1: and I mean Cook. Cook is still twenty seven, so

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Speaker 1: you know, it's not like he is completely over the hill.

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Speaker 2: I love the way he looked last year. I thought

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Speaker 2: he declined slightly, but maybe playing that he's had a

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Speaker 1: He also had the knee surgery in the offseason to

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Speaker 1: kind of fix the one that had been bothering him.

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Speaker 1: So the maybe they can sell that is say he's

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Speaker 1: going to be fresh this year. Looks so much better

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Speaker 1: than he did in previous years. Which could happen, could

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Speaker 1: happen absolutely. I mean, so both those guys could still

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Speaker 1: be on my fantasy team. I'm not saying they're junk

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Speaker 1: or anything, but they can slow play this thing and

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Speaker 1: they'll find a good landing spot, I'm sure. Oh. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Number three on the list kind of an under the radar,

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Speaker 1: sneaky kind of guys. Ben Jones, the center for the Titans.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you can play all across the interior.

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Speaker 2: He's been around the block.

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Speaker 1: Older dude, I mean, yeah, he's thirty three years old now,

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Speaker 1: but he's coming off a Pro Bowl year. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I wonder if there's an injury we don't know about

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Speaker 2: with some of these guys. I mean, that could be

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Speaker 2: a trend with all these dudes, or didn't want to

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Speaker 2: deal with many camp or you know, all those things.

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Speaker 2: But he can still play, that's for sure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's a guy to keep an eye on.

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Speaker 1: The next guy in the list is some but to

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Speaker 1: you and I don't necessarily like a whole lot, But

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Speaker 1: here he is, Marcus Peters.

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Speaker 2: I'm shocked he's still unemployed, to be honest with you.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's been around the block. He's a premium

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Speaker 2: position I think he's falling off a little bit of

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Speaker 2: late as well. And if someone's new to the show, welcome.

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Speaker 2: But the reason we don't love him is because he's

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Speaker 2: so boom or bust.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: There's the hives are great, the takeaways, the boy he

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Speaker 2: gets smoked a lot because he's so such a risk taker.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he just gambles too much. And you know, when

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Speaker 1: you're younger, you can get away with that because he

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Speaker 1: could make more plays. Yeah, last year six pass breakups,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you need the splash and he's not bringing the

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Speaker 1: Yeah. The next guy on the list here, number five

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Speaker 2: I mean again, he's a little bit younger, playing good football.

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Speaker 2: He also can play I think all three interior, but

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Now number six on this list is a little

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Speaker 1: bit like Marcus Peters in that he's a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a one trick pony. But the trick is something

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Speaker 1: that that teams covet and nets you Onick and Gockway. Interesting,

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Speaker 2: He's kind of had that Brandon Cook's path where he's

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Speaker 2: one year here, one year there. People give up stuff

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Speaker 2: What's interesting about in the Dockway is and what you

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Speaker 2: were saying about Boom and Bust one hundred percent true

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Speaker 2: because he doesn't really play the run. He's not very stout.

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Speaker 2: You know, he's a speed guy off the edge, and

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Speaker 2: he's got quite a few sacks in his career. I mean,

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Speaker 2: he's had a good career. He's also always followed Cover

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Speaker 2: three Seahawks defenses. And when I say he moves around

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Speaker 1: That few few teams.

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Speaker 2: Play that Seahawks Cover three you know style anymore, and

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Speaker 2: that's really all he fits. You know, He's not really

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Speaker 2: of a sudden, the spots that he fits are drying

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was I remember the big argument when the

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Speaker 2: But the difference is the Steelers, despite having lighter ends

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Speaker 2: than much of the league, really stressed the ability to

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Speaker 2: Yeah that's on an afterthought here.

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Speaker 1: No. Number seven on this list is twenty seven years

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Speaker 2: He's the first name I would at least consider for

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Speaker 2: this conversation of that was a bit of an overpay.

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Speaker 2: But he was good with the Rams. He's still pretty young,

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Speaker 2: he's versatile. I think he's a starting safety that would

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Speaker 2: I want to contract at least in the ballpark of

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Speaker 2: what I signed with Cleveland, and nobody's gonna give him that.

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Speaker 1: That's yeah, that's not gonna happen at that ship sailed. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Number eight on this list only played fifty nine snaps

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Speaker 1: last year. That's Taylor Lawan. I don't know that he

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Speaker 1: can still play football. Yeah, I don't either. Boy.

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Speaker 2: The ringing thing here, though, is two Titans linemen that

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Speaker 2: have all of a sudden gotten old and can't find

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Speaker 2: a home and or big old school maulers. And I

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Speaker 2: which I don't think is a great move. They get Scarronsky,

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Speaker 2: Like a once proud beat your face Derrick Henry oh

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty bad. Yeah, at number nine. He is

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Speaker 1: twenty eight years old. Eli Apple, Mr.

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Speaker 2: I think he's like the definition of yeah, you can

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Speaker 2: start him, but if he's your starting corner, you're always

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Speaker 2: looking to do yeah, you know, like and I think

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Speaker 2: he's kind of a high maintenance dude from what I understand.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's I think it's I can remember when he

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly what they were. Yeah, So, yeah, the squeeze anymore?

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Speaker 1: Number ten or I'm sorry, I had no interceptions last year.

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Speaker 1: He broke up eight passes, but you know, just kind

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Speaker 1: of a guy. Number ten on this list is a

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Speaker 1: guy that Steeler fans are familiar with. He's thirty four now.

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Speaker 1: Melvin Ingram.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he was high maintenance here and hasn't

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Speaker 2: been tremendous since he left. He hasn't been tremendous since

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Speaker 2: he left the Chargers. Good career. I'm sure he'll get

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Speaker 2: a put your ego to the side if he's capable

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Speaker 1: If he is capable of doing that, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean play twenty snaps rushed the passer, but

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Speaker 1: It used to be. No. Speaking of which, number eleven

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Speaker 1: on this list is our old favorite, Jadavian Clowney.

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Speaker 2: I wonder if the league has just kind of got

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Speaker 2: to the point where we're tired of this nonsense. You know,

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Speaker 2: you want a lot of money, You're in it for yourself.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying he's a bad guy, but I mean

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Speaker 2: he's the definition of an NFL mercer, just changing teams

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Speaker 2: for the most money, not as disruptive as possible. I

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Speaker 2: can't help but bring up the conversations on our the

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Speaker 2: Thursday show I do with Mike Pursudo and Merrill Hodge.

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Speaker 2: If you mentioned Clowney's name to Maryrow, he loses. I

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Speaker 2: was just watching all day all twenty two. He's in

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Speaker 2: the wrong place, all the time, all the time. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Number twelve, he's twenty eight years old but had twelve

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Speaker 2: Ezekiel Elliott, Like, I don't put him and Cook in

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Speaker 2: the same No. No, Like Cook's going to be a

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Speaker 2: one ze cast of really swallow his pride a little bit. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't want to say he's like end

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Speaker 2: of career bettist, but I mean, like almost has to

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Speaker 2: be a mentor spot player, And there's a couple of

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Speaker 2: those dudes out there four nets, you know Hunt. You

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Speaker 2: know that they have had good careers, not like Elliott

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Speaker 2: or Cook, but where's their fit going to be?

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Speaker 1: Where are they going to find the spot? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's that's a tough one when you've been a star

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Speaker 1: like that to then swallow your pride and go somewhere

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Speaker 1: going to play special teams Zekelly, right, Like if.

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Speaker 2: You sign him, how many snaps is he actually going

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Speaker 2: to be out there?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 2: And he's not going to help you on special teams.

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Speaker 2: He takes the spot of a young guy that's super cheap.

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Speaker 2: You know that you could draft a six round running back,

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Speaker 2: So those guys all of a sudden don't have as

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes it tough for them. Number thirteen cornerback

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Speaker 1: Casey Hayward. He is thirty three years old, three already Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought about him too. Is that third edge guy?

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Speaker 1: Number fifteen. He's now thirty four years old. He had

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Speaker 1: I mean he's not a number one. Ideally he's not

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Speaker 1: Number seventeen, thirty one year old offensive tackle George Fant.

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Speaker 2: Where I'm going with that is, that's that's what being

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Speaker 1: You're like a left handed pitcher in baseball. You can

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you shouldn't be a starter, but sometime a

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Speaker 1: he's twenty seven years old. He had one hundred and

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Speaker 1: fifty nine tackles for the Falcons last year, two sacks

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Speaker 2: I mean, especially for a first round pick, you know.

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Speaker 1: Like if the Steelers had drafted b Shawn Evans set

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Speaker 1: But I don't think it would be all that different.

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Speaker 2: I know they're different positions, but Edmunds has had the

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Speaker 2: I would consider him. I mean, he also was a

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Speaker 1: Is he really any different than Landon Roberts at this point,

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Speaker 2: I think he's a better athlete, or at least he

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but Roberts gives you a lot like again, you

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Speaker 1: mentioned that that culture thing. You know, a guy who's

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Speaker 1: won a lot of football games, who's who's played a

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Speaker 1: he's he's he made a lot of tackles last year?

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Speaker 1: How many were eight yards downfield?

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Speaker 2: No, I hear you, and my thoughts on him are

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Speaker 2: I don't think he's gonna be one of these dudes

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Speaker 1: At age twenty seven.

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Speaker 2: You know, like Evan Ingram going from the Giants to

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Speaker 2: take a while. Probably is what he is. Maybe if

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Speaker 2: he were a Steeler, he'd be one of your best

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Speaker 2: two whenever you get there opening day and you go

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Speaker 2: it's only right. They got the linebackers all set. You

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Speaker 1: No number nineteen. I'm surprised he's just low on this list?

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Speaker 1: Actually is Teddy Bridgewater?

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Speaker 2: Is there something going on with him?

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Speaker 1: Does he? I don't know. I don't know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: neither neither of us are big Teddy Bridgewater fans. No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: But he's one of the top forty quarterbacks in the league.

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Speaker 2: Right He's been around the block. He doesn't hurt you.

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Speaker 2: I know he's conservative to a fault, but okay, you know,

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Speaker 2: I mean he could get you out of a game.

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Speaker 2: I mean he's more than that. Again, I mean, there's

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Speaker 2: a lot of teams I can use study Bridgewater right now.

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Speaker 1: He's better than Mike White. I agree, Yeah, who the

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Speaker 1: Dolphins signed to replace him. I just don't get that

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of themes that are bad at backup quarterback, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: like Jordan loves backup. Might be Clifford from Penn State, right.

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Speaker 1: Ooh yeah, might I'd rather have Clifford to big Red Dog. Right.

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Speaker 1: Twenty is thirty year old wide receiver Jarvis Landry. He

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Speaker 2: He might be done like another one's looking at He's

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Speaker 2: not gonna run down on kickoffs, you know he's not.

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Speaker 1: When he was twenty two, he wasn't gonna run away

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Speaker 1: from anybody, right. He hasn't gotten any faster after eight

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Speaker 2: He's tough, he handles the slot duties. He's taken a beating,

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Speaker 2: but he's a catch and fall down guy, you know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's just very replaceable.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Number twenty one, and there's a there's a big

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Speaker 1: Number twenty one Troy Hill, thirty two year old, was

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Speaker 2: I can't help myself. I always have to make the

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Speaker 2: always I'm a fan of this guy, and he might

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean people don't think about this, but this

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Speaker 1: Right right, you're playing a big man's game. You're getting

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know you took a beating if you last

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Speaker 1: Number twenty two on this list, twenty eight year old

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Speaker 2: Is he gonna be a He won't be a one

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Speaker 1: No? No, I think those days are well passed. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just another guy that you know you're going to

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Speaker 1: he gonna he made money in Cleveland? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Number twenty three is another guy that you know, I

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Speaker 2: but he would certainly help a team that's darn harmon. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: these smart old safeties usually can play a year or

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Speaker 2: two longer than you would expect. You know, then their

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Speaker 2: legs would allow them. You know, just know the tricks

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Speaker 2: of the trade. You know, maybe you're not out there

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Speaker 2: making big plays, but you understand.

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Speaker 1: You're in the right spot. You're you know, you get

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Speaker 2: He's the old man at the why that knows how

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Speaker 2: I bet he hooks on somewhere.

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Speaker 1: I would think he gets somewhere. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: look to bring him back maybe yeah, yeah, yeah, just

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Speaker 1: let's bring you back. You were with the Chiefs. Maybe

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, no, it doesn't sound terrible. I mean he's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he recently tweeted out he can't run or jump.

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Speaker 1: That's not good. Yeah. Yeah, kind of a big deal

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Speaker 1: for a quarnerback and he could really run and jump. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: At twenty six, interior defensive lineman a Keem Hicks.

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Speaker 2: I haven't scrolled down enough to see if like Domakong

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00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:05,359
Speaker 2: Sues on this list or lynn Vell Joseph, they are

440
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Speaker 2: talking about old man game. You know, these big, super

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Speaker 2: physically imposing guys that never really ran great to begin with.

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Speaker 2: They can play a long time.

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Speaker 1: You know, just let me out there and be strong.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, strong, and don't let a guard block you by himself.

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Speaker 2: You know they'll all gone somewhere.

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Speaker 1: Might not think so. Week five, right, number twenty seven,

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Speaker 1: another linebacker Zach Cunningham.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's never really been for me, but maybe I've

449
00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:37,720
Speaker 2: sold him short. He's kind of a long, thinner guy

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Speaker 2: that runs well, not super physical, but he seems to

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Speaker 2: be falling out of favor year after year two, Like,

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Speaker 2: I wonder what's going on with him. He's not that old.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, still twenty eight twenty speaking at twenty eight, here's

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Speaker 1: number twenty eight is Karl and the Sieb. A defensive end.

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Speaker 1: He was with the Buccaneers last year three and a

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Speaker 1: half sacks. You know, he's never been a yeah, He's

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Speaker 1: never been a true starter anywhere. He's always been kind

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Speaker 1: of like a three yeah.

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Speaker 2: And he's almost like the Dunlap conversation without the track

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Speaker 2: record and that. He's a big bodied end, but he's

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Speaker 2: not great on stunts and loops or screaming off the edge.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: He's always been kind of a space eater at end.

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Speaker 2: And those guys are easy to find.

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Speaker 1: At twenty nine, another linebacker, and the Steelers brought this guy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Steelers brought this guy in about a month ago and

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Speaker 1: didn't sign him, but at least they kicked the tires.

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Speaker 1: That's Kawant Alexander and he's always been a run and

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Speaker 1: hit athletic type of dude.

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Speaker 2: I think he was a highly recruited guy. Else you

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Speaker 2: been a little inconsistent in his career. I wonder as

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Speaker 2: a twenty nine year old, is he a special teamer

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Speaker 2: or not. I just don't know that answer. He could

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Speaker 2: find it out real easy, but I just don't know.

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Speaker 1: At thirty is safety LaMarcus Joyner.

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Speaker 2: Good career, undersized, Probably a good example of a slot

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Speaker 2: corner slash safety. It's got his body pretty beat up

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Speaker 2: over the years.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Thirty one is Leonard Fournette. He'll play football

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Speaker 1: for somebody this year.

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Speaker 2: He'll play so yeah, yeah. I mean doesn't offer anything

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Speaker 2: on teams, but he can get yardage.

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Speaker 1: Thirty two is tight end, camera and brat. He's kind

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Speaker 1: of scary with the neck and concussions last year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know that he necessarily plays football this year.

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Speaker 1: Thirty three is Andrew Adams of safety for the Titans.

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Speaker 2: I don't know a ton about him to be.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, nor do I kind of like a three or

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Speaker 1: four safety. Thirty four is Rogers Saffold. He's thirty five

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Speaker 1: years old now, but he played over one thousand snaps

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Speaker 1: last year for the Bills.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and their line wasn't great. He wasn't great. He's

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Speaker 2: a little bit of a heavier dude, you know. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure he has some wear and tear in his

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Speaker 2: lower body, but he's got a good career. He wouldn't

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Speaker 2: shock me if he signed somewhere as our starting guard.

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Speaker 1: Number thirty five is Bradley Roby, who spent last year

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Speaker 1: with the Saints. Yeah, another one of those slot type backs.

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Speaker 1: He's now thirty one.

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Speaker 2: It feels like the neighborhood of I give them a

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Speaker 2: fifty to fifty chance to be a football player this year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you get the number thirty six Cameron Fleming yuck. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: no thanks.

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Speaker 2: He's like the fan conversation of yeah, backle, you wouldn't

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Speaker 2: still be employed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, And remember he came into the league as

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Speaker 1: a center. Oh yeah yeah. And then number thirty seven

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Speaker 1: has Chase Rolier, interior offensive lineman for the Commanders last year.

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Speaker 1: Again kind of a I mean he's center guy that

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's the perfect guy.

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Speaker 2: That's ben a starter that you obviously want to draft

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Speaker 2: someone over him, you know, but he can get you

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Speaker 2: out of games and yeah, you know maybe.

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Speaker 1: So that's thirty seven guys on this list. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: counting one, Cameron Fleming. I'm going to go through here

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Speaker 1: and counted so Cameron Fleming. We got Karl m Siebe.

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Speaker 1: That's two. Mm hmm. Let's see here. Kareem Hunt is three,

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Speaker 1: Troy Hill was four, Jarvis Landry is five. No, Genevian

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Speaker 1: Clowney is six. John Johnson is seven. And I think

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Speaker 1: that is it. Seven. Seven guys in this list have

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Speaker 1: one thing in common.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm getting it. I didn't completely pay attention

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Speaker 2: to every name. Are they all former Brownies?

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Speaker 1: All all either played for the Brons last year or

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Speaker 1: are former Browns and made good money by the Cleveland

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Speaker 1: Browns and made and we're paid a lot of money

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Speaker 1: by Cleveland at one point. Interesting and now we're out

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Speaker 1: on the free agent market. This again when you talk about, uh,

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Speaker 1: just continuity, there's none in Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: No, it's a real problem and it's a hard thing

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Speaker 2: to change.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: You go in a big spending spree and go get

534
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Speaker 2: John Johnson and Clowney and blah blah.

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Speaker 1: Blah, Troy Hill. Yeah, those are your big ads. Just

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Speaker 1: two years ago, just two guys are big ads.

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Speaker 2: Now you've got to make room for Watson, and you know,

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Speaker 2: it's there's no Continuity're right, yeah.

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Speaker 1: But interesting list there by the thirty third team, A

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Speaker 1: lot of those guys will end up playing football at

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Speaker 1: some point this year. We'll see where. Maybe some of

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Speaker 1: them will sign before training camp, maybe if some of

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Speaker 1: them will sign soon into training camp.

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Speaker 2: But keep there's another trend there. Not a lot of

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Speaker 2: special teamers.

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Speaker 1: No, that's the other part.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, defensive back, that's thirty three or you know running

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Speaker 2: backs that were once stars, not special teamers.

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Speaker 1: Not special teamers, but he is Matt Williamson, I am

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Speaker 1: Dale Lelly. You're listening to the drive here on Steelers

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